Though I agree with most of your post, you should know something about the Christian Democrats in Europe (actually Ill give example of Netherlands) and also about the fear of AKP in Europe. Because Christian Democrats arent as orthodox as they sound, and fear of AKP first arouse in Turkey and then came to Europe.

Most strict Christians are against abortion and euthanasia. You would think that a party that calls itself Christian is tehrefore against these things, or at least would want them to become illegal for the Christians you´d think they represent. Neither is the case. This party acknowledges the necessity for abortion and euthanasia and has no wish to make it illegal. The most I ever noticed about them being Christian is their emphasis on family values and their name (for me a reason not to vote for them). Most of such parties have their names as a heritage from a time the Netherlands was divided among ideological/religious lines. Nowadays, they dont carry a strong religious signature. 

However, a party called SGP in the Netherlands, calling themselves Reformed christians, they want theocracy in the Netherlands and also don´t let women take seats in the party. I don´t think they should be forbidden (after all its a theocracy and if people vote for them, democracy is the keyword), but their women-policy should be forbidden since it goes against article one of our constitution about discrimination.

The mistake you make in your argument is blaming Europe for being scared of AKP and Islamization. Have you ever spoken to your fellow countrymen? So far all TUrkish people I speak with are anxious about the future of Turkey as long as AKP remains in power. This fear is not a sound Europe´s giving. It is one that first rose in Turkey and then came to Europe (FYI: many western countries think Fethullah Gülen is a great intellectual, so there was no reason for European countries to be afraid of an islamic party that identifies itself with the so called ´moderate teachings´ such as those of Gülen. After seeing reactions in Turkey it became clear Turkish nation itself is in fear of the rise of an islamic party. It wasn´t Europe who went on the streets with red flags against Abdullah Gül. Nor did Europe make cartoons about which headscarf was the most suitable for his wife (the cartoon with the Playboy bunny ears ).

But I do wonder where the EU leaders get this ´Islam vs Christendom´ thing from. I have never heard of people thinking about it that way, and besides the Bible Belt, in the Netherlands it is not that easy to find people of this generation who still identify themselves strongly with Christianity. This insanity should stop.

 I don´t get this sentence. I guess you spelled something wrong. And instead of thanking Catwoman, the consequent step would be for you to translate your post

I totally agree with you. For example I voted for a very small party called ödp.

I also believe that the parties who want communism or shariat should be forbidden.

Nobody is afraid of CHP or AKP in Turkey. If Turkish people want to be ruled by socialism, it

should be ruled by socialism. If people vote for akp, let them vote for that party.

Shall Turkey become like Russia or Iran one day?

answer: I don´t know. However, if people want to have a regime like in Iran, I would respect

the majority. Although I do not like the regime in Iran.

My family will slaughter a cow at Kurban Bayramı but we wont give the skin away to Türk hava

kurumu. i will give it away to a cemevi. Nobody can force me to give it away somewhere else.

hava kurumu forces all alevis to give the "hide" to themselves. it wont work.

a famous Turkish proverb: Korkunun ecele faydası yoktur.

 I don´t know whom you´ve been talking to, but I know many people who don´t like AKP and do fear it will result in Islamization. The centre-periphery cleavage that has been dominating Turkish politics for decades is slowly fading away, but the Kemalist-Islamist agitation is still going on strong. Though ideologies of both groups have changed a lot over time and are very flexible in interpretation, the juxtaposition of ideologies is clearly visible.

For example, schools were closed on the Day of the Republic because of Domuz Gribi. I haven´t heard anyone who believed that was the real reason, everybody was angry that it was just a policy to make people forget about the importance of the Republic and the principles it stands for.

And why respect the majority that wants a regime like in Iran, but not respect the majority if it wants Şeriat (though Iran is not ruled directly by Islamic Law, the Council may sent a law that is incompatible with Şeriat back to the parliament for revision and can veto any law made by the Majlis on religious grounds) or communism? That´s not respect for democracy and majority, that is pragmatism based on your views

Kisnemek zatiniza mahsus.....burada eline imkan verildi diye, salakligini gostermene gerek yok..

Laiklik bir toplumun dindar olup olmamasi ile ilgili degil. Laiklik devlet ve din islerinin birbirine karistirilmamasi ve devletin bir ulkede mevcut butun dinlere esit mesafede durmasi demek. Senin cigirtkanligini yaptiklarin bu tarife uyuyor mu?

Boyunu asan konulardan uzak dur !

Alpha, did you not see my message about writing in English? Do I need to write separetely for you?

Chomsky said that Turkey could become a “significant independent actor” in the region, if it chooses to. “Turkey has to make some internal decisions: is it going to face west and try to get accepted by the European Union or is it going to face reality and recognise that Europeans are so racist that they are never going to allow it in?,” said Chomsky. The Europeans “keep raising the barrier on Turkish entry to the EU,” he explained. But Chomsky said Turkey did become an independent actor in March 2003 when it followed its public opinion and did not take part in the US-led invasion of Iraq. Turkey took notice of the wishes of the overwhelming majority of its population, which opposed the invasion. But ‘New Europe’ was led by Berlusconi of Italy and Aznar of Spain, who rejected the views of their populations - which strongly objected to the Iraq war - and preferred to follow Bush, noted Chomsky. So, in that sense Turkey was more democratic than states that took part in the war, which in turn infuriated the US. Today, Chomsky added, Turkey is also acting independently by refusing to take part in the US-Israeli military exercises.

This is what Chomsky said about Turkey during two lectures organised by the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) in London, by Mamoon Alabbasi.

Sorry, I had not seen your post.

This one? 

Ay siz de bozmaz o laikliği biz de bozar ...

It is a miracle to make hundreds of mistakes in one short sentence.

Ay is exclamation here and needs exclamation mark.Without (!) it becomes the subject of the sentence and means moon. O must be the subject and placed in the beginning of the sentence, but because it was placed immediately before a noun with no comma between, it became an adjective for the following word laikliği. Siz de, biz de here should be written as sizde, bizde.

My lady friends generally find Mr. Chomsky to be a physically very attractive man. Do ladies in this class agree?