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1.       ptaszek
440 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 12:41 pm

Istanbul{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}is there anywhere more beautiful city?more magical ,tempting and seductive?The city that stays profoundly in heart,soul and mind ,the city that makes all , who have ever been there ,long for it...

Istanbul 2010-European Capital of Culture

2.       lemon
1374 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 01:47 pm

lalabla, blalala, blur blur ba!

 

3.       ptaszek
440 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 01:57 pm

 

Quoting lemon

lalabla, blalala, blur blur ba!

 

 

 Femme,you are losing your guts{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}Once you were known for good responses,now have you become an opera singer?Wink

4.       petra.bee
48 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 02:56 pm

 

Quoting ptaszek

Istanbul 2010-European Capital of Culture

 

 

Along with Essen (Germany) and... a little town called Pecs in Hungary Wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpVR6d1W43E

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2007-07-18-pecs-hungary_N.htm

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 08:51 pm

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Anyway... have you ever been to anywhere in Istanbul outside of the touristic places? I think not.. lol

6.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 09:13 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Anyway... have you ever been to anywhere in Istanbul outside of the touristic places? I think not

Ummm....you are very right in that beauty is a subjective phenomenon...however for me Istanbul is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world. I think it has something to do with all the layers of civilization and cross cultural integration.

7.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 09:20 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Ummm....you are very right in that beauty is a subjective phenomenon...however for me Istanbul is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world. I think it has something to do with all the layers of civilization and cross cultural integration.

 

Istanbul undeniably has its own character and charm, but I wouldn´t say that it´s the most amazing city in the world, I find that to be a pretty strange thing to say anyway, kind of "eurocentric". I agree that Istanbul has some phenomenal landmarks and history, but as a city you can really only visit and tiny fraction of it, because the rest is just slums, with streets so tiny you can only park on them.

8.       imantay
87 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 09:41 pm

this is only one of many poems dedicated to istanbul, it describes the unique beauty it has

By the way Yeats is one of the greatest poets of the 20th century  

 

Byzantium a poem
by William Butler Yeats

 

The unpurged images of day recede;
The Emperor´s drunken soldiery are abed;
Night resonance recedes, night walkers´ song
After great cathedral gong;
A starlit or a moonlit dome disdains
All that man is,
All mere complexities,
The fury and the mire of human veins.

Before me floats an image, man or shade,
Shade more than man, more image than a shade;
For Hades´ bobbin bound in mummy-cloth
May unwind the winding path;
A mouth that has no moisture and no breath
Breathless mouths may summon;
I hail the superhuman;
I call it death-in-life and life-in-death.

Miracle, bird or golden handiwork,
More miraclc than bird or handiwork,
Planted on the star-lit golden bough,
Can like the cocks of Hades crow,
Or, by the moon embittered, scorn aloud
In glory of changeless metal
Common bird or petal
And all complexities of mire or blood.

At midnight on the Emperor´s pavement flit
Flames that no faggot feeds, nor steel has lit,
Nor storm disturbs, flames begotten of flame,
Where blood-begotten spirits come
And all complexities of fury leave,
Dying into a dance,
An agony of trance,
An agony of flame that cannot singe a sleeve.

Astraddle on the dolphin´s mire and blood,
Spirit after Spirit! The smithies break the flood.
The golden smithies of the Emperor!
Marbles of the dancing floor
Break bitter furies of complexity,
Those images that yet
Fresh images beget,
That dolphin-torn, that gong-tormented sea. 



Edited (12/28/2009) by imantay

9.       Pita
27 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 11:02 pm

yes this poem is amazing considering Yeats never visited Istanbul in his waking life, but from his reading and his exposure to Byzantine art he made Byzantium his emblem of the Holy City. His introduction to its art came through the mosaics he saw in Palermo and Ravenna. He was moved by this hieratic mosaic art, and his invocation of the ecclesiastical figures that are depicted there marries impressions of the shimmering, rippled surface made by thousands of tiny squares of color, with the spiritual import of what is depicted.

10.       imantay
87 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 11:43 pm

heheheh....yeah... i know.... but still... )

11.       petra.bee
48 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 10:36 am

 

Quoting Pita

yes this poem is amazing considering Yeats never visited Istanbul in his waking life, but from his reading and his exposure to Byzantine art he made Byzantium his emblem of the Holy City. His introduction to its art came through the mosaics he saw in Palermo and Ravenna. He was moved by this hieratic mosaic art, and his invocation of the ecclesiastical figures that are depicted there marries impressions of the shimmering, rippled surface made by thousands of tiny squares of color, with the spiritual import of what is depicted.

 

There are so many smart people here.

I mean it. {#emotions_dlg.angel}

12.       lemon
1374 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:07 pm

 

Quoting petra.bee

 

 

There are so many smart people here.

I mean it. {#emotions_dlg.angel}

 

 

and im the smartest, a very knowledgable.

13.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:10 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

 

and im the smartest, a very knowledgable.

 

 I will admit that you are the best in maths...but that´s IT!!

14.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:14 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I will admit that you are the best in maths...but that´s IT!!

 

 Are you sure?  I thought kitty was best at maths.  {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

I think lemon is our best greeting card writer.  {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

15.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:18 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Are you sure?  I thought kitty was best at maths.  {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

I think lemon is our best greeting card writer.  {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

 

 Well, its been a while since we had our last Maths tests but I am fairly sure that kitty was our best man-crusher.  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

16.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:28 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Well, its been a while since we had our last Maths tests but I am fairly sure that kitty was our best man-crusher.  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

True, it´s been a while.  Maybe it´s time for anohter round of testing. 

17.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:50 pm


 

Quoting alameda

Ummm....you are very right in that beauty is a subjective phenomenon...however for me Istanbul is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world. I think it has something to do with all the layers of civilization and cross cultural integration.

 

Istanbul undeniably has its own character and charm, but I wouldn´t say that it´s the most amazing city in the world, I find that to be a pretty strange thing to say anyway, kind of "eurocentric". I agree that Istanbul has some phenomenal landmarks and history, but as a city you can really only visit and tiny fraction of it, because the rest is just slums, with streets so tiny you can only park on them.

 

...again as I said, it is subjective......so to me it is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world......to you it is not............we both have our own subjective opinions....I really don´t see what is Eurocentric about it.....after all it is partly in Europe and partly in Asia.............and if you really think about it...the definition of Europe seems to be pretty subjective and fluid as well.  As for those narrow streets....If one can park on them....you can walk on them. I take no joy in a city drive....particularly if that drive is in Istanbul. Cars are a big problem there.

 

I just think for me, Istanbul is the most amazing city in the world....as for any European thing.....I have no opinion about that....but it does look like an interesting program....hmmm it should be shown to the Turkish Agenda thread...

 

Program    it takes time to download....there are 93 pages, but if you want ideas of what to do, there are a lot of things listed in the program



Edited (12/29/2009) by alameda [add]

18.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 09:44 pm

 

Quoting alameda

...again as I said, it is subjective......so to me it is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world......to you it is not............we both have our own subjective opinions....

 

Yes. Again, there are great places in Istanbul, but so there are in other cities in the world. But everybody wants to feel special.

 

By the way, I´m really happy that Istanbul is going to be the European Cultural Capital for 2010!



Edited (12/29/2009) by catwoman

19.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 12:26 am

 

 

Istanbul undeniably has its own character and charm, but I wouldn´t say that it´s the most amazing city in the world, I find that to be a pretty strange thing to say anyway, kind of "eurocentric". I agree that Istanbul has some phenomenal landmarks and history, but as a city you can really only visit and tiny fraction of it, because the rest is just slums, with streets so tiny you can only park on them.

 

 Euro-asian centric...right It´s so eurocentric to forget that Istanbul is mostly Asian

I can not say Istanbul is the greatest city in the world... I haven´t been everywhere. But I have to say culture wise, it´s on top of my visited-cities list. On other aspects it doesn´t always score so good, like being groped in the tram-wise.

20.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 03:49 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 Euro-asian centric...right It´s so eurocentric to forget that Istanbul is mostly Asian

 

Haha, you´re right!

 

I think that another thing that gives Istanbul its nice feel is the openness of Turkish people in general, their hospitality and laid-back attitudes.

21.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 06:25 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 Euro-asian centric...right It´s so eurocentric to forget that Istanbul is mostly Asian

I can not say Istanbul is the greatest city in the world... I haven´t been everywhere. But I have to say culture wise, it´s on top of my visited-cities list. On other aspects it doesn´t always score so good, like being groped in the tram-wise.

 

You can get groped anyplace...all you need is a crowded space.....hmmmm maybe they don´t grope in Holland?  I hate any crowded space for exactly that reason, but having grown up in a groping latitude, I´ve evolved a strategy to deal with it.  NYC must be grope capital of the world.

 

 



Edited (12/30/2009) by alameda [why not....?]

22.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 12:50 pm

They also grope in Holland, but it hardly ever happens. I have only been groped in Holland during festivals, and in clubs or bars. Not in public places on a normal day, in an every day situation. I have never been groped in public transport in Holland or other countries, except for the tram in Istanbul... I don´t know why groping is linked to trams there, but it happens in one form or another every single time! I wonder if there is a club of tram-gropers there, that just follows me around...

The metro has treated me well though Haven´t experienced groping there, neither in the city busses or the ferries! And how great are those ferries.. really love those in Istanbul. Especially when people start to sell stuff. I still feel sorry that I didn´t buy a hat/manual hand-ven in one, on the boat the the islands...



Edited (12/30/2009) by barba_mama

23.       Pita
27 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 06:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv-KcF3Rkv8

 
Istanbul
 
  Istanbul was constantinople
Now it’s istanbul, not constantinople
Been a long time gone, constantinople
Now it’s turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in constantinople
Lives in istanbul, not constantinople
So if you’ve a date in constantinople
She’ll be waiting in istanbul

Even old new york was once new amsterdam
Why they changed it I can’t say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to constantinople
No, you can’t go back to constantinople
Been a long time gone, constantinople
Why did constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the turks

Istanbul (istanbul)
Istanbul (istanbul)

Even old new york was once new amsterdam
Why they changed it I can’t say
People just liked it better that way

Istanbul was constantinople
Now it’s istanbul, not constantinople
Been a long time gone, constantinople
Why did constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the turks

So take me back to constantinople
No, you can’t go back to constantinople
Been a long time gone, constantinople
Why did constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the turks

Istanbul

24.       lemon
1374 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 09:35 pm

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 Femme,you are losing your guts{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}Once you were known for good responses,now have you become an opera singer?Wink

 

whats this losing guts thing?

 

imagine me going to a polish site and going on and on praising warsaw or krakow, flattering poles 24/7.

people would simply get sick. i guarantee DD would throw up after couple of posts.

25.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 02:53 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

 

imagine me going to a polish site and going on and on praising warsaw or krakow, flattering poles 24/7.

people would simply get sick. i guarantee DD would throw up after couple of posts.

 

thank you for your consideration, you´re saving me hours of cleaning.

 

Most grateful,

DD Non-Vomit Cool

 

As for Istanbul being the most beautiful city in the world - I haven´t seen all the cities yet so can´t really say it is or isn´t one lol I just know I loved it, I mean the city centre, mosques museums and charming little cafes and tea gardens. The fact that it looks way more exotic than polish cities might have influenced my perception, though lol But once you´re not in the centre, you get to see dilapidated buildings and boring blocks of flats just like everywhere else. Ok, not everywhere, but like most big cities.

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