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1.       ValeriYa
30 posts
 02 Jul 2010 Fri 09:20 am

Dear users of Turkishclass,
Is anyone of you intersted in visiting Erzurum?
I want to go there for many years but cannot do it alone.
I´d be happy if someone has some intention: we probably can go together??



Edited (7/2/2010) by ValeriYa

2.       vineyards
1954 posts
 02 Jul 2010 Fri 07:47 pm

Visiting Erzurum in the middle of the summer? You must really have a reason to do that. It is sad but we usually do most of our travelling in West and South Turkey. Erzurum is not the best place to go unless you like high altitudes and cold weather. It is also a bit far from Istanbul (1224kms).

 

The people of Erzurum are known to be conservative. As far as I know, they do not welcome different points of view either. At least, that was the case when they beat my brother to a pulp some 15 years ago. He briefly attended a university and gave up on it when people around him did not welcome his liberal way of thinking.

 

Maybe a lot has changed since then but I would advise caution especially to a young female like you. If you must go with a big group and avoid dark alleys.



Edited (7/2/2010) by vineyards

3.       sonunda
5004 posts
 02 Jul 2010 Fri 07:51 pm

I arrived in Erzurum from Barhal and caught the bus straight out again to Kars. What is there there that is particularly interesting?

4.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 02 Jul 2010 Fri 10:08 pm

Erzurum was an important city in the past, so it still has a bunch of old buildings laying about. I guess that anybody who wants to visit the place is interested in history. But keep in mind that the number of old buildings is limited because of armed conflicts in the past that have left a lot of damage. I guess Erzurum is a one-day-visit city. Erzurum is not a city that is often visited by tourists. It will be hard to find somebody to go there with. To be honest, I would go there too perhaps but only after improving my Turkish A LOT and after I can also understand the Eastern Turkish accent

5.       Lev
9 posts
 02 Jul 2010 Fri 10:44 pm

 

Quoting ValeriYa

Dear users of Turkishclass,
Is anyone of you intersted in visiting Erzurum?
I want to go there for many years but cannot do it alone.
I´d be happy if someone has some intention: we probably can go together??

 

 Dear ValeriYa,

I send you private message and my contact info.

Lets discuss in msn your idea....
{#emotions_dlg.computer}

6.       si++
3785 posts
 05 Jul 2010 Mon 11:47 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

I arrived in Erzurum from Barhal and caught the bus straight out again to Kars. What is there there that is particularly interesting?

 

From wikipedia which gives some interesting bits:

The city was conquered by the Russian army in 1829, given back to the Ottoman Empire with the Treaty of Adrianople (Edirne). The poet Alexander Pushkin accompanied the Russian commander-in-chief, Ivan Paskevich, during that expedition and penned a brief account of the campaign. The city was again assaulted by the Russian army in the last Russo-Turkish War in 1877.

The province was the site of the major fighting during Caucasus Campaign of World War I between Russian and Ottoman forces including the key confrontation of the campaign, Battle of Erzurum which resulted in capture of Erzurum by Russian army under command of Grand Duke Nicholas on February 16, 1916. It was returned to the Ottomans with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk in 1918. Erzurum was also a main Turkish base during the Turkish War of Independence. It was declared a province of Turkey in 1924.

7.       si++
3785 posts
 05 Jul 2010 Mon 11:47 pm

dup



Edited (7/5/2010) by si++ [dup]

8.       si++
3785 posts
 05 Jul 2010 Mon 11:47 pm

dup



Edited (7/5/2010) by si++ [dup]

9.       sonunda
5004 posts
 06 Jul 2010 Tue 12:04 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

From wikipedia which gives some interesting bits:

The city was conquered by the Russian army in 1829, given back to the Ottoman Empire with the Treaty of Adrianople (Edirne). The poet Alexander Pushkin accompanied the Russian commander-in-chief, Ivan Paskevich, during that expedition and penned a brief account of the campaign. The city was again assaulted by the Russian army in the last Russo-Turkish War in 1877.

The province was the site of the major fighting during Caucasus Campaign of World War I between Russian and Ottoman forces including the key confrontation of the campaign, Battle of Erzurum which resulted in capture of Erzurum by Russian army under command of Grand Duke Nicholas on February 16, 1916. It was returned to the Ottomans with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk in 1918. Erzurum was also a main Turkish base during the Turkish War of Independence. It was declared a province of Turkey in 1924.

 

Interesting history-but didn´t look that great when I passed through.

10.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Jul 2010 Tue 08:48 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

 

 

Interesting history-but didn´t look that great when I passed through.

 

I believe it must even be more interesting for a Russian.{#emotions_dlg.neutral}

11.       oceaneyes
1 posts
 06 Jul 2010 Tue 09:42 pm

In Erzurum is not much to do for tourists when you not speak Turkish.

Most of the people there only speak Turkish not any other language

 

12.       sonunda
5004 posts
 06 Jul 2010 Tue 09:47 pm

 

Quoting oceaneyes

In Erzurum is not much to do for tourists when you not speak Turkish.

Most of the people there only speak Turkish not any other language

 

Those are the places I like best!

 

13.       DaveT
70 posts
 10 Jul 2010 Sat 09:07 am

I spent a day in Erzurum a couple of years ago, just looking around, and enjoyed the place.  There are a number of historic old buildings and the town was interesting for itself, being very much more Asian than European.

 

It certainly is conservative, with what seems like a cami on every block.  I encountered no  English speakers but people were friendly enough and I had no problems getting by with only rudimentary Turkish.  Nobody bothered me at all except for a few small children at  Üç Türbe, who demanded money to pose for pictures.  They were annoying but scattered quickly enough when I glared at them.  It´s not a warm place but it´s not Antactica either.  You want to dress conservatively there anyway, with long sleeves and pants legs, and a jacket might come in handy.

 

I liked Erzurum and would recommend a visit to it.

14.       ValeriYa
30 posts
 10 Jul 2010 Sat 04:29 pm

Thank you, Davet for sharing your opinion.

There are already  two of us (both are russian!!)who want to go there. But we decided to search opportunity to spend winter vacation skiing at Palandoken (developing recreation center nearby the city).

15.       slavica
814 posts
 10 Jul 2010 Sat 07:00 pm

These are some of Erzurum attractions:

 

The modern city, with wide tree lined boulevards and university buildings, is intertwined with the historical district. The Seljuk buildings in the town are remarkable. The Ulu (Grand) Mosque built in 1179 is interesting, with its many columns and seven wide naves. Next door to Ulu Mosque is the Cifte Minareli (Double Minaret) Medrese (theological school), which is the most famous feature of the city. It is a perfect example of Seljuk architecture, the carved portal being particularly fine.

Walking south you will see the Three Tombs (Üç Kümbetler). Another interesting tomb is the elegant 13th century Hatuniye Tomb. The Yakutiye Medrese of the 13th century is one of the most important historical monuments of Erzurum with its beautiful portal and richly tiled minaret. Here is an elaborate mosque built by the great architect Sinan in the 16th century, the Lala Mustafa Pasa Mosque. The Aziziye monument commemorating the Turkish - Russian War, the citadel and Bell Tower, the Rüstem Pasa Caravanserai and the Bedesten are other historical places of interest.

For nature lovers, Lake Tortum, 120 kilometers from Erzurum, and Mount Palandöken provide perfect opportunities. Palandöken winter sports and skiing resort which is reached by mountain roads of scenic beauty, is only 6 kilometers from Erzurum. This winter sports spot is competitive with those of Europe. By Lake Tortum you will encounter a rarely found beauty of a peaceful lake. The waterfalls at the northern end of the lake are worth seeing as they plunge from a height of 47 m (150 ft)

 

Quoted from All About Turkey

 

Oviously, there is something to see, from historical sights and buildings to natural beauties. And spending winter vacation skiing at Palandoken sounds as a good idea.

16.       tccio
45 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 09:33 am

hey Valeria, I was born in Erzurum. I haven´t been there much but my uncle is with me who came from there recently. I can ask him anything you want to know about there.

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