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1.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 09:45 am

 


The terrorist PKK have reportedly hired 3 Serbian snipers to attack some important people in Turkey (Like President Gül or PM Erdoğan). The security measures for Turkish VIPs have also been increased. And the Turkish Police are trying to detect when the 3 snipers will enter Turky.

 

Quoted from: here



Edited (7/20/2010) by si++

2.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:13 am

I thought PKK had exstensive training camps. Why would they have to hire some Serbians? I think the PKK has enough snipers that will do the job for a lot less money. Foreign hitmen are very very expensive. People who do it out of ideological viewpoints are cheaper, and not less skilled.

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3.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:16 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

I thought PKK had exstensive training camps. Why would they have to hire some Serbians? I think the PKK has enough snipers that will do the job for a lot less money. Foreign hitmen are very very expensive. People who do it out of ideological viewpoints are cheaper, and not less skilled.

 

Ha ha

That is what I thought really.. Apart from everything why would PKK want to kill Tayyip Erdogan? 

This seems to be a bit of fabrication to me.. 

4.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:29 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

I thought PKK had exstensive training camps. Why would they have to hire some Serbians? I think the PKK has enough snipers that will do the job for a lot less money. Foreign hitmen are very very expensive. People who do it out of ideological viewpoints are cheaper, and not less skilled.

 

PKK snipers cannot easily walk around as those with Eurepean looks. They can relatively easily be spotted by the Turkish police.

5.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:30 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Ha ha

That is what I thought really.. Apart from everything why would PKK want to kill Tayyip Erdogan? Why not?

This seems to be a bit of fabrication to me.. 

 

 

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:34 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

 

 

I can not see any motivation and any profit for PKK.. Can you?

7.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:02 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I can not see any motivation and any profit for PKK.. Can you?

 

Well since you know ins and outs of them I should have been supposed to say "yes you are right" if you were telling the truth  but I don´t believe you and yes I personally can. Otherwise I wouldn´t start this thread, right?

8.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:06 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Well since you know ins and outs of them I should have been supposed to say "yes you are right" if you were telling the truth  but I don´t believe you and yes I personally can. Otherwise I wouldn´t start this thread, right?

 

Well you dont need to be ´ingenious´ for that. I assume any body who has a bit of knowledge about Turkish politics will see that.. I might be wrong but that is what I see in this news.. ie.. 

So tell us why PKK will want to kill PM or president of Turkey, in your view?

9.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:09 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well you dont need to be ´ingenious´ for that. I assume any body who has a bit of knowledge about Turkish politics will see that.. I might be wrong but that is what I see in this news.. ie.. 

So tell us why PKK will want to kill PM or president of Turkey, in your view?

 

I won´t tell any. I am an outsider. You sound like an insider and would maybe tell us more about why they wouldn´t.

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:12 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I won´t tell any. 

 

You wont (and can not )tell any because you have no idea!! lol lol 

11.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:17 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

You wont (and can not )tell any because you have no idea!! lol lol 

 

I won´t because I will not further exchange any tit for tat with you. Wrong conclusion{#emotions_dlg.lol}

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:20 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I won´t because I will not further exchange any tit for tat with you. Wrong conclusion{#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

You were the one who started it not me.. lol

But it is a good idea.. Dont do it.. You are quite light weight!

13.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:27 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

You were the one who started it not me.. lol

But it is a good idea.. Dont do it.. You are quite light weight!

 

Start what? I have started an informational thread. You are like a bull. You are jumping into any thread when you see the name PKK like a bull attacks matador. You are here to defend PKK right?

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:33 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Start what? I have started an informational thread. You are like a bull. You are jumping into any thread when you see the name PKK like a bull attacks matador. You are here to defend PKK right?

 

Off.. as I said, you should stop getting personal..

You are not good at it.. Please.. 

you just put up something and I said ´it seems fabrication´. 

Go and read from the beginning who has started it..

As I said, you are not good at it.. So stop..

15.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Off.. as I said, you should stop getting personal..

You are not good at it.. Please.. 

you just put up something and I said ´it seems fabrication´. 

Go and read from the beginning who has started it..

As I said, you are not good at it.. So stop..

 

You think it´s fabrication but the police think it´s serious and investigating. So shut up.

 

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:44 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

You think it´s fabrication but the police think it´s serious and investigating. So shut up.

 

 

I have right to say "what seems fabrication to ME or not". 

So calm down!! When I do shut up or I dont  is none of your business.. OK?



Edited (7/20/2010) by thehandsom

17.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:48 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I have right to say "what seems fabrication to ME or not". 

So calm down!! When I do shut up or I dont  is none of your business.. OK?

 

OK and you did it. So? Why do you keep responding. You are a troll. Just annoying me.

18.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:53 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

OK and you did it. So? Why do you keep responding. You are a troll. Just annoying me.

 

I am not trying to annoy you of course.. Why would I do that? give me one single reason? only one?

I am not the one calling people ´ah you are a pkk supporter, you are an insider etc´

Then expect not to get a response?

 



Edited (7/20/2010) by thehandsom

19.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 12:57 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I am not trying to annoy you of course.. Why would I do that? give me one single reason? only one?

I am not the one calling people ´ah you are a pkk supporter, you are an insider etc´

Then expect not to get a response?

 

 

Well when I see some threads abouts Kurds or PKK, you always there to defend them in your ways. So I mention it. What else do you expect?

 

20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 01:04 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Well when I see some threads abouts Kurds or PKK, you always there to defend them in your ways. So I mention it. What else do you expect?

 

 

Well

I can not see "calling this news ´as fabricated´" is support of PKK.. But you do.

And I will always defend Kurds because they are people of Turkey..

They are my country´s people.. 

Anyway.. Just cut it off.. You were wrong in the first place and you are still wrong to insist on your mistake...

This something you posted.. I said ´it seems fabricated´.. You assumed ´it is support of PKK´ and started to get personal.. I am telling you it is nothing to do with support of PKK..

So it is time to stop ..ok?

21.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 01:17 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well

I can not see "calling this news ´as fabricated´" is support of PKK.. But you do.

And I will always defend Kurds because they are people of Turkey..

They are my country´s people.. 

Anyway.. Just cut it off.. You were wrong in the first place and you are still wrong to insist on your mistake...

This something you posted.. I said ´it seems fabricated´.. You assumed ´it is support of PKK´ and started to get personal.. I am telling you it is nothing to do with support of PKK..

So it is time to stop ..ok?

 

Pufff. It´s all null and void. You have too much time on your hands hanso. You are supposed to be working for your employer. Is this the way you produce for them?

22.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 02:23 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Pufff. It´s all null and void. You have too much time on your hands hanso. You are supposed to be working for your employer. Is this the way you produce for them?

 

I am just telling you. Just cut it off and stick to the subject. And try not to write personal things like you did above, if you can.. I mean what is the point of that? We are trying to talk something here and you try to bring the things into to personal level and insults  etc..

This is just boring because you are not good at it either..

 

 

 

 

23.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 04:41 pm

Quoting si++

 

 

PKK snipers cannot easily walk around as those with Eurepean looks. They can relatively easily be spotted by the Turkish police.

 

Yeah... A Turkish looking Kurd stands out in Turkey and Serbians just blend in I just don´t agree with this comment. First of all, the whole point of snipers is that they are not seen. The way they look has nothing to do with it, because they are hiding behind the bushes or something. And even if it´s about looks, a European look will draw more attention. Safety officials (like bodyguards and such) always look for things that are out of the ordinary. A Serb in Turkey is more out of the ordinary than a Kurd in Turkey. The only reason why PKK would hire foreign help for this is because of the skills. I think that with all the fighting that is going on and the training camps that the PKK has enough snipers itself. I agree with the post about this news being fabricated. If you think logically about it, it really doesn´t make any sense.

24.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 06:09 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Quoting si++

 

 

PKK snipers cannot easily walk around as those with Eurepean looks. They can relatively easily be spotted by the Turkish police.

 

Yeah... A Turkish looking Kurd stands out in Turkey and Serbians just blend in I just don´t agree with this comment. First of all, the whole point of snipers is that they are not seen. The way they look has nothing to do with it, because they are hiding behind the bushes or something. And even if it´s about looks, a European look will draw more attention. No nowadays we see foreigners everywhere so they can easily pretend like tourists. But a Kurdish sniper coming from Northern Irak would be noticed (at least it would be easier to notice them than noticing a Eurepean). Safety officials (like bodyguards and such) always look for things that are out of the ordinary. A Serb in Turkey is more out of the ordinary than a Kurd in Turkey. The only reason why PKK would hire foreign help for this is because of the skills. I think that with all the fighting that is going on and the training camps that the PKK has enough snipers itself. I agree with the post about this news being fabricated. No problem If you think logically about it, it really doesn´t make any sense.

 

 

25.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 20 Jul 2010 Tue 07:34 pm

"No nowadays we see foreigners everywhere so they can easily pretend like tourists. But a Kurdish sniper coming from Northern Irak would be noticed (at least it would be easier to notice them than noticing a Eurepean). "

 

Yes, but not in political settings. A tourist in the Aya Sofia, yes that doesn´t stand out. A tourist at a political convention, no, that WILL stand out. A PKK sniper from the mountains or whatever will look like your average Turkish person. Take his green/kaki camouflage clothes off, slap him into jeans and a shirt and nobody will notice.

26.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Jul 2010 Thu 10:11 pm

 

Quoting si++

The terrorist PKK have reportedly hired 3 Serbian snipers to attack some important people in Turkey (Like President Gül or PM Erdoğan). The security measures for Turkish VIPs have also been increased. And the Turkish Police are trying to detect when the 3 snipers will enter Turky.

Quoted from: here

 

Oh...this is so sad Cry, I hope nothing comes out of this, but with a Google simple search using the words "serbian snipers in turkey" ...I found this and many more links relating to this horrible story....an incident of this type would cause chaos, people will die....

Who ever is president or prime minister is always a target....It has been reported, Obama has had 30 assassination threats per day since his election.

 

27.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 22 Jul 2010 Thu 10:47 pm

Everybody gets threatened to be killed nowadays. Even the queen of Belgium gets a death threat every year.

28.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 03:07 am

Phew, Alameda  {#emotions_dlg.whistle} Obama is lucky! I threaten cats in my garden everyday  {#emotions_dlg.you_smartass}they aint stop littering.

29.       slavica
814 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 11:17 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Oh...this is so sad Cry, I hope nothing comes out of this, but with a Google simple search using the words "serbian snipers in turkey" ...I found this and many more links relating to this horrible story....an incident of this type would cause chaos, people will die....

Who ever is president or prime minister is always a target....It has been reported, Obama has had 30 assassination threats per day since his election.

 

 

You can find loads of horrible stories using only word "serbian" in your search. They are sooooooooo suiatable to play role of bad guys in every story! And every horrible story is sooooooo suitable to satanize Serbian people a bit more...

 

30.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 12:16 pm

 

Quoting slavica

 

 

You can find loads of horrible stories using only word "serbian" in your search. They are sooooooooo suiatable to play role of bad guys in every story! And every horrible story is sooooooo suitable to satanize Serbian people a bit more...

 

 

Slavica,

 

I ddn´t mean to give "Serbian" name a bad meaning by starting this thread. In my opinion Serbs are lovely people and I have nothing against them.{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

 

Similar things can be found for Turks everywhere as well. You know we are known as barbarians. Darwin once called us back race that should be swept out of Anatolia. We never mind.

31.       slavica
814 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 09:22 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Slavica,

 

I ddn´t mean to give "Serbian" name a bad meaning by starting this thread. In my opinion Serbs are lovely people and I have nothing against them.{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

 

Similar things can be found for Turks everywhere as well. You know we are known as barbarians. Darwin once called us back race that should be swept out of Anatolia. We never mind.

 

Si, I know you didn´t mean anything bad {#emotions_dlg.flowers} I didn´t take it personally and besides, I have already got used to bad reputation of my people.

 

But I´m talking generally. There are stereotypes and it is hard to change it in minds of people who are too lazy to think with their own head.

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