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Terror still an issue Turky in 2027
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10.       si++
3785 posts
 27 Jul 2010 Tue 05:31 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

... Let me explain again... the book was not written as a prediction of Turkey´s future. It´s a sci-fi book, with robots and stuff.

Who´s this explaination meant for? Stop treating others as dumb or something. Not nice, smart lady.

 

Let me check again if I understood correctly. it´s a scifi book, with robots and stuff. Is that what you´re saying?Wink

 

11.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 Jul 2010 Tue 05:38 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

... Let me explain again... the book was not written as a prediction of Turkey´s future. It´s a sci-fi book, with robots and stuff.

 

+1000 lol lol lol 

12.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 27 Jul 2010 Tue 05:41 pm

Well I would have said the posters name if his/her name was in the post, but it was blank {#emotions_dlg.think}

13.       si++
3785 posts
 27 Jul 2010 Tue 06:11 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

+1000 lol lol lol 

 

this is meaningless. adding to 1000 to what? You know if you are into math a little you can add two numbers.

 

The meaningful number here would be +0 meaning I have nothing to add.

14.       si++
3785 posts
 27 Jul 2010 Tue 06:12 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Well I would have said the posters name if his/her name was in the post, but it was blank {#emotions_dlg.think}

 

It was my post if you were talking about. Who else´s can it be?

15.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 27 Jul 2010 Tue 10:58 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

It was my post if you were talking about. Who else´s can it be?

 

Okay, than you are the one who said "What´s wrong with mentioning a prediction about Turky´s future? Anyhing that can happen will happen." So then I said that it was just a sci-fi book, not a prediction. The writer has never written this as a prediction of what the future would look like. Terminator was also not shot as a prediction of the future, it was just a cool sci-fi movie. I don´t see how my remark is ´not nice´, I´m just pointing out the obvious. Apparently you needed the explanation, because you are not familiar with the writer and his style of books. 

 

Seriously... why do I have to repeat myself, and spell out every remark that I make? It´s boring...{#emotions_dlg.suspicious}

16.       si++
3785 posts
 28 Jul 2010 Wed 08:53 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

Quoting si++

 

 

It was my post if you were talking about. Who else´s can it be?

 

Okay, than you are the one who said "What´s wrong with mentioning a prediction about Turky´s future? Anyhing that can happen will happen." So then I said that it was just a sci-fi book, not a prediction. And I said it was me who said it. I was not talking about what the book said.The writer has never written this as a prediction of what the future would look like. Terminator was also not shot as a prediction of the future, it was just a cool sci-fi movie. I don´t see how my remark is ´not nice´, I´m just pointing out the obvious. If it´s obvious why feel the urge to point it out. I thought you think I am a dumb or something. Apparently you needed the explanation, because you are not familiar with the writer and his style of books. 

  

Seriously... why do I have to repeat myself, and spell out every remark that I make? It´s boring...{#emotions_dlg.suspicious} yeah and you got your share in it.

 

 

17.       stumpy
638 posts
 31 Aug 2010 Tue 12:25 am

I have read the book, it is a good peice of science fiction just like Terminal Cafe by the same author.

Quote:si++

An insteresting note about the book is that the Kurdish problem in Turky still hasn´t been sorted out in 2027.

If you read the book you will find out that the "Kurdish problem" has been resolved in 2022 by the books timeline.

18.       si++
3785 posts
 31 Aug 2010 Tue 07:51 am

 

Quoting stumpy

I have read the book, it is a good peice of science fiction just like Terminal Cafe by the same author.

Quote:si++

An insteresting note about the book is that the Kurdish problem in Turky still hasn´t been sorted out in 2027.

If you read the book you will find out that the "Kurdish problem" has been resolved in 2022 by the books timeline.

The article quoted says it´s not! How have you concluded otherwise? Give us the bits that make you think otherwise.

 

 

19.       stumpy
638 posts
 31 Aug 2010 Tue 08:36 am

Quote:si++

The article quoted says it´s not! How have you concluded otherwise? Give us the bits that make you think otherwise.

The first mention of Kurds in the book is on page 73: "Turkey´s many terror groups each have their own signature.  The Kurds tend to be theatrical.  They need to attract atention to themslves as a nation.  The anti-EU Grey wolf nationalist see themselves in the romatic tradition of young Turks and favor individual asassinations and street shootings."

 

Pages 212 to 214 of the book: "In 2021 I was assigned to a military intelligence unit in Diyarbakir...  In the run-up to EU accession we decided to conduct a series of strategic strikes against the PKK.  The plan as to damadge its structure and weaken Kurdish nationalism´s bargaining position beforem European human rights and ethnic minority tied our hands%

...

"Operation Euphrates was a project to field test a second-generation chemical device on an isolated civilian population.  It consisted of an airborne nanoscale agent designed to enter the brain and modify the dopamine, oxytocin and serotonin uptakes."

...

"The agent was designed to increase the passivety, disrupt associational ties and enhance mutual distrust while at the same time expanding receptivity to our information."

 

Now there is no mention af a "Kurdish problem" anywhere in the book after pages 215.  The only mention is first to try to explain the tram bombing by the lone woman and then the exerp when a general tells of a mission against the Kurds before the EU accession.

I would recommend you read the book and not just go by some critic that read the synopsys of the book and thinks he has understood the whole story.

The story is about 6 people who´s lives have been changed by the bombing on tram 119 and what happens to them in the folloowing days after the incident.

By the way the book is about 30 dollars in any good book store, hard cover on top of that!

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