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Turkis airlines flight attendants on a diet otherwise fired!
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20.       stumpy
638 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 03:33 pm

I know this person who works out every day, is a vegetarian, does not eat junk food or fatty foods, no pastries and the doctors say she is overweight.  She is 173 cm tall and weights 100 kilos.  Turns out she has a high bone mass. 

On an extra note Marylin Monroe was a size 14, by today´s standard she would be considered overweight back then it was considered voluptuous.  Today´s fashion, you have to look like a heroin addict to be the "perfect" size 0.

My friend from Venezuela has a saying, bones are for dogs I prefer meat, meaning he like a woman that is healthy and has curves than a woman that is skin and bones.

21.       sonunda
5004 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 04:46 pm

We would say ´built for comfort not for speed´

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22.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 06:00 pm


  1. Marylin Monroe was 167 centimeter, and 54 kilogram. I don´t know American or English dress sizes, but that´s a BMI of 19,4. That is considered a healthy weight, even in the lower regions of the healthy weight spectrum. According to doctors she wouldn´t be overweight today. Perhaps she would be considered "round" by Hollywood, but so is Scarlet Johanson. What is "in" in fashion is not "in" in every day life. I don´t want to look like a size zero, because I prefer to have some fat left to create a behind and some breasts And I think most men don´t like to look at a size zero either. When I look at the eyes of sleezy men, the always follow the round behinds and curvy bodies, not the walking clothes-hangers.

  2. To have a weight of 100 kilo at 1,73 meter (exactly my height!), just because of big bones is almost impossible. Bones account for about 5 kilo´s in the average person. Being 100 kilo would mean she has about 500% bigger bones than normal people. If she really lives as healthy as you say, I would advise her to see a specialist. The bones story just isn´t enough, and being that heavy on a healthy diet means something is wrong. She can have some kind of hidden defect! Especially with the work outs and everything... Often the weight is a sign that something else is not working properly.



Edited (8/14/2010) by barba_mama [mistake! ...can´t delete the 1 and 2... it looks so know-it-all :(]

23.       stumpy
638 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 06:16 pm

Quote:Barbra_Mama

Often the weight is a sign that something else is not working properly.

The person in question just got a perfect bill of health from the doctors.  The weight of a person is not just comprised of the fatty weight but muscle and bone mass also.  This girl used to be a big sportif in college.  Yes she may need to louse another 10 kilos but to say that she is obesses like she has been told is untrue. 

Why is it that if someone is on the round side people think they over eat?

In some countries a round woman is a sign that her husband is prosperous, in other words that he is well off and take care of his woman.  The steriotipical view that a woman should be skinny is not healthy, it cause young girls to develop eating dissorders.  There are diffrent body types and some are made to be heavier than others.  And frankly I would rather like to see a flight attendant that has a certain musculation than be skinny.  The skinny flight attendant could not possibly be usefull in a crissis situation since her body is so thin and muscle strengh comprimised because of the weight loss.

24.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 08:10 pm

It´s hard to believe that a person 1.73cm tall would weigh 100kg in spite of eating healthily. Unless that person is a body builder, then I can believe it. A person of heavy built and average muscle structure would never weigh that much without being simply fat.

I don´t know why people defend fat people by criticising skeletons. Isn´t it true that any kind of extreme is bad? The fact that people with eating disorders like anorexia or bulimia not only look terrible but also ruin their health, does not change the fact that so do obese people. I suppose everyone should aim at being healthy and keeping their BMI at a reasonable level

25.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 08:12 pm

The weight that flight attendents need is also not too skinny. They have to have a certain BMI, which I think is normal. You have to draw the line somewhere because an airplane is a crowded, small place. Why not draw it at ´healthy´ and ´able to move easily in the narrow path´? They don´t demand this weight for fashion purposes. 

26.       stumpy
638 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 09:48 pm

I agree with you daydreamer but it is easy to say that someone is fat because they are lazy or eat bad and do not take care of themselve but why do people that are anorexic are taken pity of and are said to have eating dissorders and should be helped and that fat people are just lazy and they need to exercise.  I am having difficulty wrapping my head around this. 

And yes flight attendands should be able to move around without difficulty on the planes but to stop them from working and witholding their pay until they louse the weight is not good either.  This will only promote unhealthy weight loss either by starving themselves or purging.

I am sorry if I am pationate about this by my best friend is morbidly obese and it pains me to see her that way.  She exercises and eats healthy and the doctors says there are no reasons for her obeseness.

Anyways I think we were all saying the same thing just in diffrent ways, a healthy lifestyle is always better.  But admit it people, a good pastry is heavenly once in a while

27.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 14 Aug 2010 Sat 10:51 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

 

And yes flight attendands should be able to move around without difficulty on the planes but to stop them from working and witholding their pay until they louse the weight is not good either.  This will only promote unhealthy weight loss either by starving themselves or purging.

 

I would agree if this was a first warning. But the article states that the people in question had been warned before. If they did not listen to the warnings, what else can the company do? Being fit enough for your job is a responsibility of the employee. I have some problems with giving them this timeframe of 6 months though. For some people losing weight in a healthy way might be possible in this time, for others it might not. In any case, perhaps a ground job is better for these people. If they don´t want to, or can´t lose the weight they can always let the company know this and be restated on the ground. Saves them not having pay for 6 months!

28.       nifrtity
1806 posts
 19 Aug 2010 Thu 08:09 am

 

Quoting stumpy

I know this person who works out every day, is a vegetarian, does not eat junk food or fatty foods, no pastries and the doctors say she is overweight.  She is 173 cm tall and weights 100 kilos.  Turns out she has a high bone mass. 

On an extra note Marylin Monroe was a size 14, by today´s standard she would be considered overweight back then it was considered voluptuous.  Today´s fashion, you have to look like a heroin addict to be the "perfect" size 0.

My friend from Venezuela has a saying, bones are for dogs I prefer meat, meaning he like a woman that is healthy and has curves than a woman that is skin and bones.

 but nowday fashion and models make all of the girls make a dietes and exercises to being look like barabi

 

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