I know it sounds strange but according to some turkish sources

http://www.haberturk.com/dunya/haber/549510-gerard-depardieu-ankara-soykirimi-taniyacak 

That is what Gerard Depardieu said "Turkey has  launched the process of recognizing Armenian Genocide".

I am not sure if it will be in the form of "recognizing it" but something has to be done in this issue.

I tried to write about it in my column (http://www.turkishclass.com/columns/thehandsom/2010/06/25/armenian-question-iv-final-)

...So in my opinion, as far as the Armenian problem is concerned, I think we are approaching a culminating moment. I think that this issue won’t be a problem anymore in the coming years. (Obviously, we could not persuade the world with our thesis. Year after year, the number of countries accepting the event of 1915 as a genocide is increasing..) 

I think there are some people in the Foreign Ministry who see that this is not a way in which we can continue. Something has to change. Something has to change because of the constant burden of humiliation the foreign ministry personnel face in  first hand.

...

An English source:

http://www.panorama.am/en/culture/2010/09/04/turkey-depardie/

Who cares what Gerard Depardieu said?

If you seriously believe that Turky will do it, you should go get your head examined.

Huh.... what does an old, fat French actor have to do with it?

One more hired gabber. Not serious at all.

Of course him being fat, old and french nothing to do with it..

Possibly he has some Armenian friends and he is talking about the subject with no serious knowledge..

However, the stress in my post was nothing to do with him being fat and French..  

hopdediks 

Why do I sense that the problem has little to do with who said it but with where he stands on the issue If G. Depardieu stated he doesn´t believe in the genocide, I doubt Turks would question his opinion or knowledge on the subject. Ha! I´ll even risk saying that his weigh would stop being important in this case

Sorry? What does this mean???

Turkish version of obelix

If he denied the genocide I would still wonder what he has to do with it As I understand, his connection to this Armenian issue is having some Armenian friends. I guess I´m an expert on the issue of German politics, Turkish politics, Chinese politics, Moldovan politics, etc, etc. in that case as well

Well.. Again,  the point  was nothing to do with his friends, his enemies, his family or his dogs or juliet Binoche ..

Geez!!

We can see your point clearly. You just have added another thread of yours with heading (so-called) "Armenian genocide" in it. Well done. Keep working.

You missed the point, I was trying to make, with a huge margin too..

To cut it simple: 

Two/three years ago I was making points here about Turkish nationalism, Kurdish issue and all other topics.. You were one of the people here who accused me with all sorts of things as if it was the end of Turkey or end of the world. And now, what is happening? The PM of Turkey is saying almost the same things: He talked about Diyarbakir prison; he talked  about the pain of people who were taken from their homes and killed by the army personnel after tortures; Kurds are talking about democratic autonomy; state people are speaking to Abdullah Ocalan; ´ne mutlu turkum diyene´ words are being cleared in kurdish areas etc.. So, I was right about those things two years ago..

Now as far as the Armenian issue is concerned, I am telling or predicting that something will change!! It has to change.. Because the way we are acting  is so shameful for all of us all over the world!!  I kept reading that Turkey is planning to shift its position on the issue and the pressure we will have in 2015 (100th anniversary of the incident) .. Now G Deperdau  says that he heard the similar thing!! That was the point..

Keep talking. (anlat anlat heyecanlı oluyor)

If you wrote sth. that defends Turkish approaches in an Armenian forum, for sure you would be in a huge trouble. You must appreciate the polyphony here that comes from the confidence.

However you again say the wrong things as almost all the times. Because you got blind to impose an idea. Thats why any unimportant comments about your provacation area, makes a lightening affect on you. And thats why you think that they serious. Thanks God, Paris Hilton doesn´t have Armenian friends...

Who is Depardieu to recieve a states secret infos? If his Armenian friends told him sth. they would just say whatever they want to believe which don´t represent the tendencies of the Turkish government. 

I could offer you to open up your eyes but you are a hopeless case. 

Well..

Sorry but as you see, the time is proving me RIGHT

Show me one serious political argument in which I was wrong and proved to be wrong!!

I mentioned which points we were talking about 2/3 years ago and I also mentioned  what people´s perception now about those subjects..

I do appreciate the freedom of speech here. You should too.. Because how would you know 3 years ago, Diyarbakir prison was specially used to torture Kurds for example? Freedom of speech is eye opening.. is it not?

But anyway..Any new updates about the letter you sent about proving EU was helping PKK terrorist camps in Europe and any new updates you said you would put up in your blog?

Anyone can live without believing that he is right. So I understand you. No matter. 

You can find Bove´s answer below. It seems French Foreign Minisetry warned him

BOVÉ José  Kime: DUGNIOLLE, bana

ayrıntıları görüntüle 30 Ağu (11 gün önce)

Quoting oeince

Anyone can live without believing that he is right. So I understand you. No matter. 

You can find Bove´s answer below. It seems French Foreign Minisetry warned him

BOVÉ José  Kime: DUGNIOLLE, bana

ayrıntıları görüntüle 30 Ağu (11 gün önce)

Dear Mr ,

I am sorry, this press release has not been recorded.

But I can say that Mr Bové explained that a PKK camp have never been installed in Larzac. It is the french army that is installed there in a military camp ! Larzac is the place of a peaceful movement against violence and army and would have never welcome such activities.  Mr Bové´s words have been twisted !
I hope i answered your question,


Best Regards,
Anne Lacouture
Assistant

Bureau de José Bové
Député Vert/ALE
Vice-président de la commission Agriculture et Développement Rural

 

So I was RIGHT!!!  

You are absolutely wrong but its certainly a loss of time to explain you that you are wrong.

Because although the truth shines like sun, you are unable to see it.

Well sorry but..(LMO ) You showed a news article from a Turkish sources AND you were like ´THAT IS THE PROOF.. HERE WE GO.. LAY LAY LOM..´ (about PKK terrorist camps in the middle of Europe.. Next to French army !!!)

I searched the net, I could not find it.. In the end I was able to find something in French.. I got it translated and it was not saying what Turkish news paper said!!

Then you asked him.. Now he answered you saying that ´he NEVER SAID IT´. You are NOW saying ´ahh French ministry warned him´  

So what is it you see here and we dont? 

The record you watched and translated was not the press conference that i mentioned. If you check cerefully you will see the dates are even different. The press release you translated is below, which is made on the 10th of March.

Question kurde: Des eurodéputés demandent à l´Union Européenne de faciliter le dialogue politique entre le gouvernement turc et les kurdes pour une solution politique

Ce mercredi 10 mars, plusieurs députés européens ont adressé une lettre aux plus hautes personnalités de l´UE afin de les sensibiliser sur les arrestations récentes de représentants kurdes, notamment en France et en Belgique. Pour les signataires de la lettre, ces arrestations de Kurdes, particulièrement en France et en Belgique, visent à réduire la question kurde à un problème de sécurité et sont inacceptables.

Ils demandent que cesse la criminalisation des Kurdes  et qu´une solution politique à la question kurde soit trouvée.Ils considèrent que l´Union européenne et ses États membres doivent faciliter le dialogue politique entre le gouvernement turcet les Kurdes pour une solution politique.

Lettre ouverte aux
Chefs de gouvernement de l´Union européenne,
Ministres de l´intérieur de l´Union Européenne,
Ministres de la justice de l´Union Européenne,
Ministres des affaires étrangères de l´Union Européenne,
Haut représentant de l´Union européenne aux affaires étrangères, Madame Catherine Ashton,
Commissaire à l´élargissement de l´Union Européenne, Monsieur Štefan Füle

                                                                                                           Strasbourg, le 10 mars 2010

Mesdames, Messieurs,

Au sein de l´Union Européenne, dans le courant de la semaine dernière, plusieurs ressortissants de la communauté kurde ont été placés sous mandat d´arrêt en France, en Italie et en Belgique, pour des liens présumés avec une entreprise terroriste. Les studios de la chaîne de télévision Roj Tv installés à Denderleeuw en Belgique ont été perquisitionnés et leur matériel d´émission endommagé.

Nous tenons à témoigner ici en faveur d´Ali Mehmet Dogan, arrêté le 26 février 2010 en France et inculpé. En effet, depuis de nombreuses années, M. Dogan est un activiste pacifiste des droits de l´Homme et milite pour une Turquie plus démocratique. En faveur de l´adhésion de la Turquie à l´Union européenne, il favorise également l´intégration de la diaspora kurde dans la société européenne. Le Parlement Européen a montré qu´il avait compris ces enjeux en attribuant le prix Sakharov à Mme Leyla Zana en 1994, ancienne députée de la République de Turquie et co-fondatrice du DTP.  

Le fait qu´une personnalité comme M. Mehmet Dogan puisse être inculpée dans le cadre de la lutte contre le terrorisme contribue à semer le doute sur le bien fondé des opérations en cours.

Nous rappelons que la sécurité des citoyens d´un Etat de droit se mesure d´abord et avant tout au respect de ses droits et aux garanties qui lui sont offertes de s´en prévaloir.

En conséquence, nous insistons sur la nécessité pour les enquêtes en cours de strictement se conformer aux exigences d´exhaustivité, de transparence, d´efficacité, d´impartialité et d´indépendance garanties par les standards internationaux de protection des droits de l´Homme.

Nous insistons sur l´importance fondamentale des droits de la défense qui doivent être respectés à tous les stades de la procédure y compris et in fine, sur les garanties d´un procès équitable.

Ces arrestations massives ont de lourdes répercussions. Elles viennent stigmatiser plus globalement la communauté kurde en Europe. Nous comprenons alors très difficilement l´action des Etats membres qui participent à cette exacerbation des tensions et portent ainsi atteinte à l´ouverture démocratique en Turquie.

En effet, le 24 décembre dernier, 80 élus, personnalités politiques ou représentants d´ONG kurdes ont été arrêtés dans l´est de la Turquie. Ces détentions ont fait suite à l´interdiction du Parti pour une Société Démocratique (DTP). En avril dernier, des arrestations avaient déjà eu lieu. Une partie des personnes alors appréhendées sont toujours détenues, sans que les chefs d´accusation aient été rendus publics. M. Osman Baydemir, maire de la municipalité de Diyarbakir et ancien vice-président de l´association des Droits de L´Homme en Turquie est aujourd´hui assigné à résidence et ne peut quitter le territoire turc. Monsieur Ahmet Türk et Madame Aysel Tu_luk, co-présidents du DTP, ont été démis de leur mandat de parlementaires et soumis à une interdiction d´activité politique pendant cinq ans. Cette série d´événements a stoppé la possibilité d´une solution politique de la question kurde, alors que le plan d´ouverture démocratique lancé par le Premier ministre, Monsieur Recep Tayip Erdogan, avait suscité beaucoup d´espoir durant l´automne dernier. La volonté du gouvernement turc de restaurer les droits culturels des Kurdes et de poursuivre les réformes dans la voie de la décentralisation qui conditionne l´adhésion de la Turquie à l´Union européenne, avait pourtant été remarquée.

Nous demandons aux Etats-membres de l´Union européenne d´encourager la Turquie à reprendre rapidement le processus d´ouverture démocratique. Nous rappelons que seule l´adoption d´une nouvelle Constitution pourra garantir l´effectivité et l´égalité pour tous les citoyens en Turquie.

Nous manifestons notre soutien à M. Ali Mehmet Dogan et demandons que les droits fondamentaux de l´ensemble des inculpés soient pleinement respectés afin qu´ils puissent bénéficier au plus tôt d´une remise en liberté.

Premiers signataires :
François ALFONSI, député européen Verts/ALE
José BOVE, député européen Verts/ALE
Jürgen KLÜTE, député européen GUE/NGL
Hélène FLAUTRE, députée européenne Verts/ALE
Patrick LE HYARIC, député européen GUE/NGL
Cornellia ERNST, député européen GUE/NGL
Nicole KIIL-NIELSEN, députée européenne Verts/ALE

But the press release i mention was made in 13th of March which Bove´s Assistant says "is not recorded" Why do a politician makes a press release? To be recorded and explain his ideas to the public. But They can´t even send me the whole text of the press release. why? Because he said that there is was a PKK camp in the middle of France and Foregn Ministery warned him to destroy the records of this press release. Otherwise they would send me the whole text.

We are used to the quibbles and lies of politicians.

Since you are talking about support of France to Kurdish terrorism, maybe the declaration of Madame Mitterand will help you, no need to search much then;

"I am supporter of Abdullah. Abdullah has a special place in my heart."

Now oeince rte has similar attempts, such as negotiation with terrorist leader, what do you think?