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Qestion on words
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17 Feb 2011 Thu 09:46 pm |
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How is konuşmak and konuş to have totally different meanings.
So if I add konuşuyor which word meaning am I looking at for past tense?
| konuş |
1. placing, arrangement.
2. geol. location.
3. mil. disposition, deployment.
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| konuşmak |
1. to talk, speak.
2. to communicate.
3. to converse, chat, talk (with each other).
4. /ı or dan/ to discuss, talk about.
5. /la/ to be on friendly terms with; to be on speaking terms with.
6. colloq. (for something) to look sharp, be eye-catching.
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17 Feb 2011 Thu 10:27 pm |
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How is konuşmak and konuş to have totally different meanings.
So if I add konuşuyor which word meaning am I looking at for past tense?
| konuş |
1. placing, arrangement.
2. geol. location.
3. mil. disposition, deployment.
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| konuşmak |
1. to talk, speak.
2. to communicate.
3. to converse, chat, talk (with each other).
4. /ı or dan/ to discuss, talk about.
5. /la/ to be on friendly terms with; to be on speaking terms with.
6. colloq. (for something) to look sharp, be eye-catching.
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Taffy , I see you in a total confusion. To make things clear for you I will try to explain to you the differences.
"Konuş" is the root of the verb "to talk "
"Konuşmak" is the infinitive form of the verb. In order to make a verb infinitive, the suffix -mek,-mak is used. (Konuş +mak)
"Konuşlanmak ": to deploy
"Konuşlandırmak" : (mil)to position, to emplace.
" Konuşlanmak and Konuşlandırmak " that are used as military terms ,have more or less same meaning.
Therefore,forget about the word "konuş " as there is not such an object or noun called "konuş"
Konuşuyorum is the simple present tense form of the verb "to talk" which means I am talking. Konuş(root of the verb) +uyor(suffix for present tense) +um(suffix for person "I" )
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17 Feb 2011 Thu 10:49 pm |
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Thank you very much.
Teşekkürler
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17 Feb 2011 Thu 11:32 pm |
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Thank you very much.
Teşekkürler
You are welcome.
Birşey değil.
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18 Feb 2011 Fri 02:35 pm |
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"Konuşlanmak ": to deploy
"Konuşlandırmak" : (mil)to position, to emplace.
" Konuşlanmak and Konuşlandırmak " that are used as military terms ,have more or less same meaning.
Therefore,forget about the word "konuş " as there is not such an object or noun called "konuş"
I think there is such word as "konuş".
Kon-mak is a verb, so I can create a noun ("kon-uş") from it using -iş suffix,
similar to "in-iş" from "in-mek" and "bin-iş" from "bin-mek",etc.
That said how would you able to create the new verbs "konuş-lanmak" and "konuş-landırmak" if there were no word as "konuş"?
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18 Feb 2011 Fri 02:52 pm |
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I think there is such word as "konuş".
Kon-mak is a verb, so I can create a noun ("kon-uş") from it using -iş suffix,
similar to "in-iş" from "in-mek" and "bin-iş" from "bin-mek",etc.
That said how would you able to create the new verbs "konuş-lanmak" and "konuş-landırmak" if there were no word as "konuş"?
I think here we are talking about pure nouns. As you say those words are derived from verbs acting like noun by adding ış,iş,uş,üş suffixes. You can"t use those words on their own where as you can use real nouns on their own.
what i mean is you have to use them in the context .if you say just "konuş" ten out of ten turkish people will think it is "speak,talk" not landing..
we call those sort of formed noun-like words as " Ad eylem" (noun like verb )
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18 Feb 2011 Fri 03:06 pm |
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konuşlan[mak |
[YTü] TDK 1998 (askeri birlik) yerleştirilme |
< Tü *konuş konma, yerleşme +lAn- < Tü kon- +Iş- |
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18 Feb 2011 Fri 03:17 pm |
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| konuşlan[mak |
[YTü] TDK 1998 (askeri birlik) yerleştirilme |
< Tü *konuş konma, yerleşme +lAn- < Tü kon- +Iş- |
Yes ..that verb (konuşlanmak) comes from "konus,konma (ad eylemleri (verb-like nouns)) so ? turkish is very productive language ..you can create hundreds of verb-like nouns not real noun.
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18 Feb 2011 Fri 03:29 pm |
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Yes ..that verb (konuşlanmak) comes from "konus,konma (ad eylemleri (verb-like nouns)) so ? turkish is very productive language ..you can create hundreds of verb-like nouns not real noun.
So it is included in TDK dictionary. So there is such a word.
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18 Feb 2011 Fri 03:34 pm |
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So it is included in TDK dictionary. So there is such a word.
if you read my previous post you will get the subject we are discussing here..I said :
Therefore,forget about the word "konuş " as there is not such an object or noun called "konuş"
"Noun or object " I didn"t say "word" as u put it.
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