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10.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 12:59 pm

oh sorry you guys are just so american.

"talk only in english"

"i paid for it i do it as i want"

"we worked alot for it you didnt do anything"

"if you dont like go away/make your own"

 

well ive heard these so many times im used to it. just becouse you host a party doesnt mean you will be doing everything right. and just becouse you bought all the beers doesnt mean you can decide how people will drink it. so what, did the site owner spent money and labour so that he can put rules to people or did he do that so people can learn a language? please

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11.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 04:57 pm

Here are the forum rules that apply to this arguement.  Thank you tunci for taking the time to post so much information in the forums.  It would be really helpful if you gave a synopsis of the article that you posted in English.  Personally, my Turkish skills are not strong enough to be able to understand the article completely. 

 

 

Turkish Class Rules:

3. The official language of all forums is English with the following exceptions and details:

3.1. The language ´Teaching Turkish´ forum is Turkish only.
3.2. ´Language´ and ´Turkish Translation´ forums can have Turkish texts according the nature of these boards.
3.3. In all forums in your messages you should include short and easily understandable Turkish words like "merhaba", "hoşçakal", "teşekkürler", "çok iyi" etc. and some simple sentences like "Çok güzel olmuş.", "Tebrik ederim,", etc. .
3.4. For practising and helping practising you may use Turkish in all forums as long as it is for educational purposes.
3.5. When using Turkish, please try to type in Turkish characters if you can. Our double click dictionary doesn´t work if a Turkish or English word isn´t written properly.
3.6. Since many TC members are not native English speakers we don´t expect a perfect use of English Language but please check your messages for spelling mistakes before sending.

 

 

Also, this site was built for Turkish Learners who are native English speakers or for those who know English.  The rules are plainly stated when you join and in essense you are agreeing with them when you do so.  You don´t have to like them and you are certainly free to criticise them but it is counter productive to make this arguement about Americans.  The site owner is Turkish and these are the rules.  Vineyards is doing his job as a moderator and requested a translation.  If you are truely interested in helping people learn Turkish, just posting something in Turkish is not helpful.   



Edited (4/21/2011) by Elisabeth
Edited (4/21/2011) by Elisabeth

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12.       vineyards
1954 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 05:04 pm

Ironically, many people here consider me as a patriotic Turk.

Quoting Burak7777777

oh sorry you guys are just so american.

"talk only in english"

"i paid for it i do it as i want"

"we worked alot for it you didnt do anything"

"if you dont like go away/make your own"

 

well ive heard these so many times im used to it. just becouse you host a party doesnt mean you will be doing everything right. and just becouse you bought all the beers doesnt mean you can decide how people will drink it. so what, did the site owner spent money and labour so that he can put rules to people or did he do that so people can learn a language? please

 

 

13.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 21 Apr 2011 Thu 09:58 pm

yeah thats a bit ironic

14.       armegon
1872 posts
 22 Apr 2011 Fri 02:27 pm

Are you not?

Quoting vineyards

Ironically, many people here consider me as a patriotic Turk.

 

 

 

 

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15.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Apr 2011 Fri 07:53 pm

 

Quoting armegon

Are you not?

 

 

 

Well, most young people carry a labeling machine in their skulls. Since it is a lot easier to think using icons, they tag these labels on people so that they can judge them without having to learn about them first. So, in those circles I will probably pass for a patriotic person.

16.       armegon
1872 posts
 22 Apr 2011 Fri 08:48 pm

Well actually I was asking you, how you feel, not the opinion of others or not for hearing your intellectuel criticizing of young people...

Quoting vineyards

 

 

Well, most young people carry a labeling machine in their skulls. Since it is a lot easier to think using icons, they tag these labels on people so that they can judge them without having to learn about them first. So, in those circles I will probably pass for a patriotic person.

 

 

17.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Apr 2011 Fri 11:30 pm

I feel cold.

18.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Apr 2011 Fri 11:50 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

I feel cold.

 

 Put the heating on then Vineyards {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

I have got somethings to to tell, I understand your duty on this site, and I appreciate the owners efforts for this website, but that shouldnt mean we should not able to ask changes on the concept for the benefit of learners and Turkish language.

Could you kindly ask the owner if he could be more flexible on using Turkish in the Forum ?

19.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Apr 2011 Sat 12:38 am

Thanks for your suggestion.

Presently, bilingual posts are possible (English-Turkish). English is the main language of this site. Therefore, even if Turkish can be used, an English summary should also be provided.

We could ask the admin, if he could open an all-Turkish forum.

The downside of having a Turkish only page would be the difficulty of controlling the level. It will probably be exclusively used by Turkish users and a few learners with advanced command of Turkish. Under the circumstances, it will probably be as helpful as any Turkish language forum not specifically meant for the learners of the language.

We must also find Turkish moderators and their activities will probably be out of the reach of foreign admins/mods. As you see there are a number of potential problems but since there is a demand for a Turkish page, I will pas this on to the admin. Maybe, he has already been following this conversation.

We have no intention like prioritizing one language over another. 

 

20.       tunci
7149 posts
 23 Apr 2011 Sat 01:10 am

 

Quoting vineyards

Thanks for your suggestion.

Presently, bilingual posts are possible (English-Turkish). English is the main language of this site. Therefore, even if Turkish can be used, an English summary should also be provided.

We could ask the admin, if he could open an all-Turkish forum.

The downside of having a Turkish only page would be the difficulty of controlling the level. It will probably be exclusively used by Turkish users and a few learners with advanced command of Turkish. Under the circumstances, it will probably be as helpful as any Turkish language forum not specifically meant for the learners of the language.

We must also find Turkish moderators and their activities will probably be out of the reach of foreign admins/mods. As you see there are a number of potential problems but since there is a demand for a Turkish page, I will pas this on to the admin. Maybe, he has already been following this conversation.

We have no intention like prioritizing one language over another. 

 

 

 Thanks for your reply Vineyards. I can see your concerns about the difficulty in controlling the level of only turkish texts. But I still think that Only Turkish texts with some english explanations will be useful. Learners can pick the sentences from texts and ask the meanings of them, or they work harder on it to understand the subjects , usages of the phraises. I believe that trying hard and forcing your limits bring the success.

Thank you again for  passing our demand for Turkish page, to the admin.

 

 

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