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70.       MrX67
2540 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 02:47 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting MrX67:

nothing impossible with tolerance,but when tolerance doors locked then not easy to find trues or understand others?


well, i can tolerate many things but i cant tolerate injustice, thats all, even its justified by religion or culture

u free to think as u wish kazpol,but u can't wish from all to think same as you.And we all respect ur trues..

71.       Aenigma
0 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 02:47 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Aenigma:

It would be such a shame if this interesting thread was locked by the moderators because of childish personal comments...


i understand u r telling me thats all my fault?
thank u



No, my comments were not directed to you personally. I was just pointing out the TC Rules. If you have a personal attack to make to someone, you should do it via a PM, otherwise this interesting thread will be locked.

72.       MrX67
2540 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 02:50 pm

anyway congrats to kazpol about the determine of woman rights,thats one of biggest problem of all countries...

73.       Aenigma
0 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 02:59 pm

Haha actually I am such a hypocrite! I have just read the rules through again and notice I have broken more than one, on more than one occasion ! The main ones I've broken consistently (lol) are:-

4. When starting a new thread in the forums, make sure to use an informative title. Meaningless and exaggerated titles should be avoided.
5. Forum messages should have a meaningful content. Please refrain from posting meaningless threads, one word (or short) nonsense posts, or such like

But ... my silly (ok naughty ) posts are JUST THAT! I would hate to see an interesting discussion like this LOCKED!!
take care

74.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 03:12 pm

Quoting Waseem_UK:

Quoting libralady:

http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa020900a.htm

Found this information - might answer a few questions?



Depends on how you want to argue the case.... Seems to me you're all ganging up on Muslims. You need to checkout other cultures, traditions and religions that require similar obervances. That is amongs the Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and the Jews.

And I don't believe women should be subjugated.



I am not ganging up on muslims, far from it, I actually found this quite interesting - i believe the same (woman should not be subjugated) but it not going to change in the short term is it? And it is not just Turkey, it is all over the world including the UK. What about all the women who are beaten by their husbands or partners in the UK because they dont toe the line?

I think this thread has now lost the plot. Someone asks a simple question and it descends into a battle ground.

75.       MrX67
2540 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 03:18 pm

i think discuissing this topic better over religions,beliefs,nationalites etc... thats only matter of mebn&women relationships,ofcourse some limits or narrows about woman rights in the religions or cultures,but not an impossible problem when we try to fix it by the guide of our minds

76.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 04:16 pm

ok, guys, i apologize waseem if i had gone too far in fighting for women rights! and i take back my word!

women rights became my target, its beyond my will!

mrx, and others thanks for the discussion!

anyway, i thank God that turkia is more perspective, developed, tolerant and open in comparison to other islamic countries! so vive la TURKIA!

cheers!

77.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 04:20 pm

Quoting libralady:



I think this thread has now lost the plot. Someone asks a simple question and it descends into a battle ground.



so it happens in forums, btw, wots the point of discussing if anyone cant share openly his/her opinion and hide the true thoughts and behave hypocritically?

78.       misscleopatra
8 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 04:20 pm

You know Waseem what is offending me most?
That some poeple have two faces in judging things, if they see a girl on the beach topless they say "she is free to do what she wants" but if another one chooses to cover herself they say " she is strict" or maybe "look the poor girl , she is forced to cover herself"
I am a Muslim girl and very pround of being muslim. I am also very proud of my head scarf that I've chosen to put 5 years ago by my own will ,,,
About the bedwein women who are all covered , it's just their traditional wear ,, just like scotch men who wear skirts , does anybody critisize them for this , although it's very weird for those who are not used to?
When Islam ordered the woman to cover herself , it's only for her own pride , for preventing her of being used by those who wants to use her body as sheep good to make a fortune or from these hungry guys in the streets who eats her with their eyes ,,,
At the end of the day , what I would like to make clear is that the world is full of different cultures and we have to learn how to accept them and respect them ,,, this is what I have learned from ISLAM ...

79.       Waseem_UK
174 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 04:26 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

ok, guys, i apologize waseem if i had gone too far in fighting for women rights! and i take back my word!


Dear Kazpol, if that's your name. You beat me to it! I also Publicly apologise to everyone for my 'immature' outburst on this forum!
Also Kazpol, Do not stop the 'fight' for Womens' Rights, someone has to do it! All I'll say, and this goes for Me too, that we should do it with Wisdom.

80.       Aenigma
0 posts
 27 Jun 2006 Tue 04:27 pm

Awwwww and they all lived happily ever after lol! Maybe this could be the start of something? !!

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