Who´s sick and tired of seeing people posting of their bf/gf´s daily chat,loveletters,marriage proposals or their lame-ass status profile messages on msn or facebook for translation ? I´m not a regular fellow here i know that so maybe you will say whats it to you but it still bothers me.I dont know about you but if a person geniunely wants to learn a language they dont go around and ask what ´selam´ ´naber´ etc. means in turkish after months do they ? So i just wanted to ask to all forum moderators or other members that if you guys are ok with helping people who are wasting your time with these nonsense messages or am i just a bitter person ?

P.S : Feel free to move/delete this topic.

RANT IS OVER.

2 beers for your post 

Interesting post. I like your style, recond1te (where do you guys find all these beautiful nics?). I have really walked around sometimes in a bad mood for the same reason. Some texts are simply abuse. I wish I could help with some of the crap sometimes but after all it´s tunci usually who has to clean up the translation section in the end of the day because none of us learners is able to first a) translate e > t or b) translate texts that are extremely long. What bothers me is that those who know have to waste their time and expertese on (even sometimes morally questionable) things like that.

But. I think translation service is available on this site not because people don´t know how to say no. When all those people with language problems know that this is the place where you most certainly get help, sometimes it might happen that something nice comes along, something that is good practice for Henry or deli or someone else. It´s a nice feeling when you can really help someone, and it might encourage learners to do better. But this only works if the shop is open all the time, which means no one with a translation request will have to leave with empty hands.

Another point is that these messages are real language. You can see how Turkish is really used in everyday communication, with shortcomings and errors as they really are in the reality.

On a silent day when few people bother to post anything the translation requests may keep the New in Forums -pile lively. And who knows, maybe one of the customers will really get interested in the language one day.

There is a certain wisdom in it, I mean.

Abla I think you did not understand what his rant was about. I was not about helping people who truly attempt to learn like yourself. It was of all those people who steal postings off either boyfriends chat mail or facebook and demand to know what they are talking about to other people and those who spend 2 to 3  years on here requesting posts and translations fighting with their so called love or encounter of their lives. The spent the time sucking out energy from everyone without so much as learning even the basics of the language. That was what I got from his complaint. It had no bearing on those that actually learn and attempt to learn.

quote for the day: not everyone is a rocket scientist nor should they be, because we still do need street cleaners and maids  

Oh yes I did. You didn´t read my message, acute.

every translation teaches a new thing to the learners and it also pleases the owner of the text. so no problem.

Thanks guys.I would also like to hear other members opinions on this subject.

If they bother you, it´s simple, just stay away from them. 

It doesn´t bother me, even though I agree with some of your thoughts. 

I do find it strange that someone who writes "I want to learn Turkish" on their profile makes no real attempt to do this, and continually posts basic translation requests. But, it is often useful for learners to attempt these simpler translation requests, and learn when they are corrected.

It is also sometimes sad to see a relationship start with ´seni seviyorum´ and ´my love for you will never end´, then a few months/years later see the bitterness and anger of a soured relationship. Over the years this seems to be a common occurrence.

Someone´s banal request is another person´s challenge. If people haven´t the time to translate these, the requests are ignored.  

I am willing help people who convince me that they really want to learn the language and come up with good questions.

I usually stay away from translation section. Not for me.