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10.       tunci
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 24 Oct 2011 Mon 01:41 pm

 

Quoting Abla

yanında ´next to´ and yakında ´close´ confusingly resemble each other in appearance and even in meaning but it seems to me that they are different.

 

yan|ı|n|da = root (´side´ + possessive suffix sg 3rd + pronominal -n- + locative ending

But *yak|ı|n|da, I guess, is not the correct analysis, is it? There is no such stem as *yak-.

 

If so, yakında doesn´t mean ´close to him´, it just means ´close´, right? Besides, I didn´t find any matches for yakın + possessive suffix + case ending. Is it possible to say yakın|ım|da ´close to me´ for instance? Or should it be bana yakında?

 

 

Yakın = close, near

Okul buraya yakın --> The school is close to here.

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Yakını ---> His/her relative [Yakın + ı ]

Bu adam benim yakınım ---> This man is my relative.

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Yakınında ---> [Lit : at its near], Near to somewhere.

Okulun yakınında bir hastane var ---> There is a hospital near school.

                                                   There is a hospital close to school.

Bu otobüs hastanenin yakınından geçiyor mu ?---> Does this bus goes[pass] near hospital ?

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Yakında ---> at near future , soon [ Yakın [near] + da [locative case] ]

Yakında İstanbul´a geleceğim ---> I will come to İstanbul soon.

 

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11.       Abla
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 24 Oct 2011 Mon 02:08 pm

Thank you, tunci. Your examples show that yakın also means close in time.

Actually I logged in in order to correct my own question but you were faster.

Quote:myself

yanında ´next to´ and yakında ´close´ confusingly resemble each other in appearance and even in meaning but it seems to me that they are different.

 

yan|ı|n|da = root (´side´ + possessive suffix sg 3rd + pronominal -n- + locative ending

But *yak|ı|n|da, I guess, is not the correct analysis, is it? There is no such stem as *yak-. If there isn´t where did yaklaşmak come from? Both yan- and yak- are from the same Ana Türkçe root but derived with a different suffix.

 

If so, yakında doesn´t mean ´close to him´, it just means ´close´, right? Besides, I didn´t find any matches for yakın + possessive suffix + case ending. Is it possible to say yakın|ım|da ´close to me´ for instance? Or should it be bana yakında? Not true. There must have been something wrong with my search.

12.       si++
3785 posts
 24 Oct 2011 Mon 02:35 pm

 

Quoting Abla

yanında ´next to´ and yakında ´close´ confusingly resemble each other in appearance and even in meaning but it seems to me that they are different.

 

yan|ı|n|da = root (´side´ + possessive suffix sg 3rd + pronominal -n- + locative ending

But *yak|ı|n|da, I guess, is not the correct analysis, is it? There is no such stem as *yak-.

 

If so, yakında doesn´t mean ´close to him´, it just means ´close´, right? Besides, I didn´t find any matches for yakın + possessive suffix + case ending. Is it possible to say yakın|ım|da ´close to me´ for instance? Or should it be bana yakında?

 

 

These all suggest that there may be a root stem like ya* in old Turkish.

 

ya-n

ya-k-laş-mak

 

I tried nişanyan sözlük for example

yaka (ETü yak-1 yaklaşmak, bitişmek +A ETü *ya-1 yakın olmak, yanında olmak, bitişmek +Ik-  yakın)

 

It also gives the same root.

 

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