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20.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Nov 2011 Thu 11:23 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 Teşekkürler Elisabeth.. Evet Aenigma, I am proud of  Atatürk and I recommend you to read about Him. May be you might get inspired by Him and you would enlighten your politicians with his ideas..

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared}

21.       tunci
7149 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 12:13 am

 

You might find my views quite patriotic, but my last words on this debate  ;

why should an ordinary Turk want to live in Uk ? while ;

In Uk                                                  In Turkey

 Cost of life is high.                            Cost of life is not that high.

 

You earn more but                             Average Turk can earn enough

 you cant save because of high            to make livelihood. If not, then

cost of life.                                       family would support eachother.

 

Montly rent for a 3 bedroom                In Turkey 100 pounds.

 house [average] starts from

500 pounds.            

 

Bad weather in general.                    Nice weather in general comparing UK.

 

Individual life ,weak family                 Community life, stronger family ties.

ties.

  

Rush,rush,rush                                 Not much rush, more laid back life.

  

Many people in Uk dont                     In Turkey neighboorhood is very           

even know their neighbours.               important.

  

In Uk most of elderly people               It is a big shame in                               

end up in care houses.                     Turkey. We look after our elderly people

                                                    till they die. [although there are few care houses ]

                                                   

Most of your veggies and                 We grow ours [most of them]              

fruits are important from Spain,

Italy..etc..

 

In Uk, you fear to talk to                   In Turkey you feel more confortable             

stranger on the street.                      about talking to strangers.

 

Your use tea bags.                          We use tea leaves..

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Dont get me wrong. Every culture has good and bad sides. I am just stating the fact that a Turk has not much reason to live in UK.

Lets stop this here.. Thanks.

22.       tomac
975 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 12:37 am

 

Quoting tunci

In Uk                                                  In Turkey

 

In Uk, you fear to talk to                   In Turkey you feel more confortable             

stranger on the street.                      about talking to strangers.

 

 

 

I´ve never been to Turkey, so I can´t compare it with UK, but I spent 4 months in UK this year, and I was (positively) surprised by the fact that many people there were very polite and friendly - I had never problems with asking people on the street for way, help in finding some place etc. As for "rush, rush, rush" ... I think it is worse in Poland.

And I saw quite a lot of Turkish people there - though I guess there are not as many of them there as Polish people

 

 

And last but not the least - weather there was actually quite good this summer. This whole "English weather" thing is just an evil, mediterranean propaganda



Edited (11/11/2011) by tomac

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23.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 08:28 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

You might find my views quite patriotic, but my last words on this debate  ;

why should an ordinary Turk want to live in Uk ? while ;

In Uk                                                  In Turkey

 Cost of life is high.                            Cost of life is not that high.

 

You earn more but                             Average Turk can earn enough

 you cant save because of high            to make livelihood. If not, then

cost of life.                                       family would support eachother.

 

Montly rent for a 3 bedroom                In Turkey 100 pounds.

 house [average] starts from

500 pounds.            

 

Bad weather in general.                    Nice weather in general comparing UK.

 

Individual life ,weak family                 Community life, stronger family ties.

ties.

  

Rush,rush,rush                                 Not much rush, more laid back life.

  

Many people in Uk dont                     In Turkey neighboorhood is very           

even know their neighbours.               important.

  

In Uk most of elderly people               It is a big shame in                               

end up in care houses.                     Turkey. We look after our elderly people

                                                    till they die. [although there are few care houses ]

                                                   

Most of your veggies and                 We grow ours [most of them]              

fruits are important from Spain,

Italy..etc..

  

In Uk, you fear to talk to                   In Turkey you feel more confortable             

stranger on the street.                      about talking to strangers.

  

Your use tea bags.                          We use tea leaves..

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dont get me wrong. Every culture has good and bad sides. I am just stating the fact that a Turk has not much reason to live in UK.

Lets stop this here.. Thanks.

 

 

 

Awwww Tunci you´ve gone to a lot of trouble copying and pasting this, so will take the trouble to reply

 

1. You are right, the cost of living here is very high and getting higher!

2. I don´t feel we earn more and, only speaking personally, you are right I never save any money! 

3. Property is very expensive.  I bought my house, but I do know that its very expensive to rent.

4. Weak family ties?  I suppose if you generalise there are SOME people this would apply to, but I have a very close family and most of my friends do to, so it´s hard for me to comment on that one.

5. Haha well it feels like bad weather sometimes and summer this year was in April and May, which felt very strange, but generally I love the English weather.

6. Rush, Rush, Rush?  Only in the cities I guess.  There IS more to England that London you know   I find your cities VERY busy and noisy, but that´s just a cultural thing.

7. Again, I think that is because you are a noisier country.  We don´t seem to talk as much and you are probably right about the neighbour thing.  We just politely say "hello" to them usually

8. Yes they do - it is something that I also ALWAYS compare badly to other countries, especially Meditterrean countries.  It´s very sad that our old people end up in care homes.

9. We grow LOTS of vegetables!!!  For example Agriculture is the biggest industry where I live.  However, we have a different diet to you - we like to eat all kinds of food from all different countries, so we have to import a LOT of vegetables in the winter because people insist on continuing to eat summer vegetables and want them fresh all year round.

10. That´s rubbish - I have never been scared to talk to a stranger on the street!  lol  We are quite friendly you know!

11. Probably true - but we drink a HUGE range of different teas.  We like tea from all over the world and many herb teas.  We don´t just drink one type of tea or coffee like you

OK REALLY bored now....

Can we end this?

 

 

 

 

24.       tunci
7149 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 10:59 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

Awwww Tunci you´ve gone to a lot of trouble copying and pasting this, so will take the trouble to reply

 

1. You are right, the cost of living here is very high and getting higher!

2. I don´t feel we earn more and, only speaking personally, you are right I never save any money! 

3. Property is very expensive.  I bought my house, but I do know that its very expensive to rent.

4. Weak family ties?  I suppose if you generalise there are SOME people this would apply to, but I have a very close family and most of my friends do to, so it´s hard for me to comment on that one.

5. Haha well it feels like bad weather sometimes and summer this year was in April and May, which felt very strange, but generally I love the English weather.

6. Rush, Rush, Rush?  Only in the cities I guess.  There IS more to England that London you know   I find your cities VERY busy and noisy, but that´s just a cultural thing.

7. Again, I think that is because you are a noisier country.  We don´t seem to talk as much and you are probably right about the neighbour thing.  We just politely say "hello" to them usually

8. Yes they do - it is something that I also ALWAYS compare badly to other countries, especially Meditterrean countries.  It´s very sad that our old people end up in care homes.

9. We grow LOTS of vegetables!!!  For example Agriculture is the biggest industry where I live.  However, we have a different diet to you - we like to eat all kinds of food from all different countries, so we have to import a LOT of vegetables in the winter because people insist on continuing to eat summer vegetables and want them fresh all year round.

10. That´s rubbish - I have never been scared to talk to a stranger on the street!  lol  We are quite friendly you know!

11. Probably true - but we drink a HUGE range of different teas.  We like tea from all over the world and many herb teas.  We don´t just drink one type of tea or coffee like you

OK REALLY bored now....

Can we end this?

 

 

 

 

 

 Selam Aenigma. I didnt copy and paste those comments. They are my own comments as I lived in England and experienced those things..

I got REALLY bored too...Lets end this.. Thanks..

 

25.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 07:40 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 Selam Aenigma. I didnt copy and paste those comments. They are my own comments as I lived in England and experienced those things..

I got REALLY bored too...Lets end this.. Thanks..

 

 

OK canim and...just because I like you..I bought you a present {#emotions_dlg.owned}

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26.       tunci
7149 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 08:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

OK canim and...just because I like you..I bought you a present {#emotions_dlg.owned}

 

 Words can not convey my gratitude. Thank you for your nice present. Cheers sister !Smile

 

27.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 08:03 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

 Words can not convey my gratitude.

 

Much as I hate to admit it, your English is better than most native English!!!

28.       tunci
7149 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 08:28 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

Much as I hate to admit it, your English is better than most native English!!!

 

 I don´t suppose so. Ama iltifatın için teşekkürler.

29.       Donkeyoaty
105 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 09:20 pm

30.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 11 Nov 2011 Fri 09:49 pm

 

Quoting Donkeyoaty

 

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