Number of young moms on decline

Turkish Statistical Institute (TÜİK) data has shown that the number of births for women who are under 15 has dropped dramatically in the last 10 years.

 According to the TÜİK data, between 2001-2010 there were 12,532,530 births in Turkey.

When the age of the mothers was analyzed, there was a drop of 87 percent of mothers who were under 15.

The number of births for women who are between 15-19 also dropped by 37 percent, according to the report. The birth numbers also dropped by 22.3 percent for women between 20 and 24.

The statistics showed that women above 30 started giving more births in the last 10 years. Accordingly, there was a 31 percent increase for women who chose to be mothers between the ages of 31 and 39.

The birth numbers also fell for women who were above 40. Accordingly, the number of births dropped by 19 percent for women who were between 45 and 49

Note : I think this is good news for Turkish society.

         [ Türk toplumu için iyi bir haber sanırım. ]

 I absolutely agree...It is also a good indication that many Turkish women are waiting until after they get an education to get married and start a family. 

Young male Turks are too busy getting Western tourist girls pregnant first

Edit:  Spooky...I sound like AlphaF suddenly....

Maybe AlphaF is just one of your CIA identities?  Oh the plot thickens!

 According to livestrong.com
The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the industrialized world. The Center for Disease control says that one-third of girls get pregnant before the age of 20. Teenpregnancy.org, a site managed by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, states that there are "750,000 teen pregnancies annually. Eight in ten of these pregnancies are unintended and 81 percent are to unmarried teens."

I wonder how an earth so many young male Turks crossed the Atlantic ocean. There must quite few of them living over there[in usa] to make that statistics come true.

Forget the joke but the fact is that;

1. that happens everywhere in the word,

2. Not all young male Turks involve that business

3. Do foreign girls whom some of them are drinking heavily or looking for holiday romance have no fault on getting pregnant issue ?

1. I´m not American   But admit we have an appalling teen-pregnancy record in the UK.

2. Yes it happens everywhere in the world, but we don´t make distinctions about "foreigners" being easy or try to extort money from them as a rule.

3. I am aware that not all young male Turks do that...but you and Morocco have the edge on the rest of the world

4. I am sure these "foreign girls" are as much to blame.  Just as they are as much to blame for believing that their Turkish waiter really does love them, really badly needs money and really badly wants to marry them and live in their country

Sorry if I hit a "raw nerve" with you Tunci!

1.Some Young Turkish or Kurdish waiters might think like and they are just 1 percent of Turkish  young population  but  the rest of Young maleTurks [99 percent] are having normal [other] jobs such as ,[accounter,lawyer,worker,marketseller,policeman,doctor,mechanic,security,cook,teacher,working in shops] or studying at university.

2. In recent years, Turks living abroad are returning Turkey. And the numbers of Westerners seeking jobs  in Turkey to get better life are rising. 

3. Your waiters issue is an out of fashion story. They dont represent Turkish young population anymore.

 Sorry Aenigma but I can see you hitting the roof after this 

Hahaha of course I know you DO have other jobs!!!   I am aware you are not just a country of bars and restaurants! 

Where do you get your statistics from?  Please send the link.  Turks living abroad are returning?  Probably only those who run out of money after they can´t get any more benefits from us.  It doesn´t mean others aren´t coming over.  Where are your stats that prove that the percentage of foreigners moving to Turkey is anything CLOSE to the many who move out of Turkey?

3. Again, why do you think the Turkish waiter con trick is an out of date fashion story?   Just have a quick look in the Translation Forum and see how many are being conned out of money, how many pretend to be in love (when they don´t even talk the same language) and how many ARE waiters and resort staff!!!   Also, please check how many other websites are dedicated to naming and shaming Turkish resort workers ...try googling Turkish Love Rats, Turkish Liars, Turkish Waiters...and you will see what I mean.  See what reputation Turkish men have on social networking sites!!  I can endorse the fact that the only people I don´t know who send messages and ask to be "friends" on facebook are....surprise surprise... Turkish Men!

Dont worry about me hitting any roofs - I love a good argument and have no personal interest in either your pregnancy story or in Turkish waiters!  Neither am I fanatically patriotic to my country or feel the need to defend it the way you do. 

I realise it must be hugely embarassing for Turks to be known in the West as love rats and I agree it´s unfair and doesn´t represent the majority of your population, but...unfortunately...that is what the average European thinks.  Just as the average Turk thinks European/US girls are "easy"

See , you hit the roof !

Only in your fantasies

Germans coming for work, not for vacation

17 April 2011, Sunday / GÜLIZAR BAKI, İSTANBUL

This is from one of newspaper..

I see no statistics or percentages to support what you said   I very much doubt if they are "flocking" - this paper sounds like our equivilent of the Daily Mail

Please show me statistics/figures which show that MORE Turks are coming back than are leaving/left.  It shows only figures for Germany.  Is it also calculating visa-breakers and illegal immigrants? 

Crisis in EU, US leads jobseekers to Turkey

02 August 2011, Tuesday / TODAY´S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

I think it´s just Germany they are leaving...and not always to return to Turkey

Migration from other countries

More recently, ethnic Turks from countries within Europe have begun to emigrate to the United Kingdom. Since 2005, there is a growing number of Macedonian Turks and Western Thrace Turks residing in England. There is also an increasing number of Turkish families arriving from German speaking countries (especially German Turks and Dutch Turks) as well as Bulgarian Turks and Romanian Turks.

Foreign residents are leaving Didim and other coastal areas of Turkey for pastures new due to falling interest rates squeezing investments, the rising cost of living and the lack of legalised work opportunities.

Didim has been witnessing an ‘expat drain’ from a trickle in early 2010, but it now has gotten to levels where remaining expats know of at least one or two couples or families having quit the resort.

But the rush to leave the resort is also being replicated up and down the coast from Kusadasi down to Fethiye and Antalya, with many citing the same reasons.

Many cite different reasons but the one common bond is that they have lost faith or trust in the country which they called home.

http://www.voicesnewspaper.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4565

Turkey ´rising power,´ says der Spiegel

The map published by der Spiegel

German magazine der Spiegel published an editorial about Turkey´s elections, calling Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan a "charismatic leader" and Turkey "the rising power of the Bosphorus."

Der Spiegel published an editorial on Wednesday and evaluated the election results in Turkey, daily Miliyet reported on its website.

The editorial, titled "Rising Power on the Bosphorus," explained Turkey´s performance in numbers, comparing it with Turkey´s neighboring countries and some European nations. The data included 2010 growth rates, ratio of public to national income, age structure and unemployment rates.

Attached to the piece was a map of Middle East and Southeast Europe that showed the performances of the countries mentioned. The map also showed the greatest extent of the Ottoman Empire in the 17th century.

Note : Sorry but please keep your European Union bankruptcy club for yourself..We dont want to join Greece,Italy, Spain and others...and one advice for UK is that you better get out of EU club otherwise you would go worse.

OK...you´re both pretty! 

Awwww thanks   But...I haven´t got a pretty quote from Ataturk on my profile

 Teşekkürler Elisabeth.. Evet Aenigma, I am proud of  Atatürk and I recommend you to read about Him. May be you might get inspired by Him and you would enlighten your politicians with his ideas..

You might find my views quite patriotic, but my last words on this debate  ;

why should an ordinary Turk want to live in Uk ? while ;

In Uk                                                  In Turkey

 Cost of life is high.                            Cost of life is not that high.

You earn more but                             Average Turk can earn enough

 you cant save because of high            to make livelihood. If not, then

cost of life.                                       family would support eachother.

Montly rent for a 3 bedroom                In Turkey 100 pounds.

 house [average] starts from

500 pounds.            

Bad weather in general.                    Nice weather in general comparing UK.

Individual life ,weak family                 Community life, stronger family ties.

ties.

Rush,rush,rush                                 Not much rush, more laid back life.

Many people in Uk dont                     In Turkey neighboorhood is very           

even know their neighbours.               important.

In Uk most of elderly people               It is a big shame in                               

end up in care houses.                     Turkey. We look after our elderly people

                                                    till they die. [although there are few care houses ]

Most of your veggies and                 We grow ours [most of them]              

fruits are important from Spain,

Italy..etc..

In Uk, you fear to talk to                   In Turkey you feel more confortable             

stranger on the street.                      about talking to strangers.

Your use tea bags.                          We use tea leaves..

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Dont get me wrong. Every culture has good and bad sides. I am just stating the fact that a Turk has not much reason to live in UK.

Lets stop this here.. Thanks.

I´ve never been to Turkey, so I can´t compare it with UK, but I spent 4 months in UK this year, and I was (positively) surprised by the fact that many people there were very polite and friendly - I had never problems with asking people on the street for way, help in finding some place etc. As for "rush, rush, rush" ... I think it is worse in Poland.

And I saw quite a lot of Turkish people there - though I guess there are not as many of them there as Polish people

And last but not the least - weather there was actually quite good this summer. This whole "English weather" thing is just an evil, mediterranean propaganda

Awwww Tunci you´ve gone to a lot of trouble copying and pasting this, so will take the trouble to reply

1. You are right, the cost of living here is very high and getting higher!

2. I don´t feel we earn more and, only speaking personally, you are right I never save any money! 

3. Property is very expensive.  I bought my house, but I do know that its very expensive to rent.

4. Weak family ties?  I suppose if you generalise there are SOME people this would apply to, but I have a very close family and most of my friends do to, so it´s hard for me to comment on that one.

5. Haha well it feels like bad weather sometimes and summer this year was in April and May, which felt very strange, but generally I love the English weather.

6. Rush, Rush, Rush?  Only in the cities I guess.  There IS more to England that London you know   I find your cities VERY busy and noisy, but that´s just a cultural thing.

7. Again, I think that is because you are a noisier country.  We don´t seem to talk as much and you are probably right about the neighbour thing.  We just politely say "hello" to them usually

8. Yes they do - it is something that I also ALWAYS compare badly to other countries, especially Meditterrean countries.  It´s very sad that our old people end up in care homes.

9. We grow LOTS of vegetables!!!  For example Agriculture is the biggest industry where I live.  However, we have a different diet to you - we like to eat all kinds of food from all different countries, so we have to import a LOT of vegetables in the winter because people insist on continuing to eat summer vegetables and want them fresh all year round.

10. That´s rubbish - I have never been scared to talk to a stranger on the street!    We are quite friendly you know!

11. Probably true - but we drink a HUGE range of different teas.  We like tea from all over the world and many herb teas.  We don´t just drink one type of tea or coffee like you

OK REALLY bored now....

Can we end this?

 Selam Aenigma. I didnt copy and paste those comments. They are my own comments as I lived in England and experienced those things..

I got REALLY bored too...Lets end this.. Thanks..

OK canim and...just because I like you..I bought you a present

 Words can not convey my gratitude. Thank you for your nice present. Cheers sister !

Much as I hate to admit it, your English is better than most native English!!!

 I don´t suppose so. Ama iltifatın için teşekkürler.

Don´t know if there were any dudu´s back in the 3rd century but St George patron saint of England was of Turkish descent. 

Do you blame the young Turks, after seeing how some tourist girls throw themselves at them, those young men would have to be brain dead

Allow me to correct you, dear bydand.

If George was born in Lydda, Syria Palestine (near nowdays Tel-Aviv) one of the Roman provinces how does it make him Turkish?

Plus Turkey wasnt there. All Turks were in Central Asia.

Dear Lemon,

I think what he means is Turkish, as in the country, also called at times Anatolia. Actually it does get confusing what with changing names of places. One place I find particularly that was is in the Horn of Africa. Some times it´s Abyssinia, then it´s Ethiopia, now one part is Eritria.....Then there was Thrace....now in Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey. 

Lydia, Lycia, Caria,Mysia, Bithynia, Phrygia, Galatia, Lycaonia, Pisidia, Paphlagonia, Cilicia, and Cappadocia.................all now Turkey.

St George the Turkish Arab

Don´t really understand your point, but.....nice to see you here Bydand

Nice to see you back too 

How an earth the subject was altered into "St.George" from "young moms on decline " ?

Dearest Alameda, what on earth ancient Anatolia has to do with with ancient Palestina, and all that together with  Turkish? 

So what is the connection of George to Turkey which at that time didnt exist?

AH! Old Good Days!

Being nomad and living in the tents made form goat hair, drinking kımız aroud the fire and playing tar, riding horse on the steppes of the central Asia, sleeping in the shadow of the Chine Wall, dreaming about the new countries to occupy and the foreign girls-with blue eyes- living in the other side of the Altay Mountains..  an so on  

 Scalpel, our ancestors were dreaming of chinese girls more than blue-eyed girls in those times..Thats why china made a great wall to stop long haired handsome Turks...!!

Hocam, it seems "getting foreign girls pregnant" is the oldest tradition in Anatolia  .. 

They made that wall just because to protect their beautiful girls from Turks? 

Sorry. My tongue in cheek remark about St George´s father reputedly coming from Kapadokya seems to have upset a lot of people. I think the thread was off topic before then. 

 Let´s put this way;

They made that wall  to stop chinese girls falling in love with Turks  

Oh dear .....still the same old Bydand

I can´t see anyone "upset" at all by your comment.  All I see is Lemon disagreeing, me saying it´s nice to see you here and a couple of others having fun with the topic!

Which is why the Chinese are now so rich

You too!

how your attempt (that failed anyway) to flatter Turks would upset anyone? 

Oh dear I really am in the bad books    What made you think I was trying to flatter the Turks?

Yes, they are rich at heart. And the hearts of chinese girls were already conquered by Turks. Therefore , soon the chinese realized that building the longest wall on earth was a total vain.

btw beside the joke, the real reason they built that wall was to protect the northern borders of  China against Turkic nomadic tribes.

You do, bydand, always do.

Ah, dear lemon, we like to be flattered...you should do it too! 

Karaoğlan was your childhood hero? 

http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karao%C4%9Flan_(%C3%A7izgi_roman)

HAHAHAHA...

Teach me, dear. The thing is that I like being flattered too, for nothing!  

As you know our ancestors when they were in middle asia had long hair. May be whether there were lack of barbers or no time for hair-cut . I used to have long hair too when I was 19 and I was nomad too. But I never tried chinese wall

..wearing sword too? 

The fruit that I like most is lemon!

(are you flattered/happy now? ) 

Lemon is something I consume with my green tea everyday, from the lemon tree in our garden.

I am not only flattered now, but I am spoiled by both you.   stop this or else I will stop being sour and turn sweet into honey.