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Azeri vekilden ´Türkçe ortak dil olsun´ önerisi
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20.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:15 pm

 

 GAGAVUZ BÖLGESİ [MOLDOVA]

21.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:19 pm

 

  NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

22.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:25 pm

 

 MESKET-AHISKA TÜRKLERİ [GÜRCİSTAN]

23.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Nov 2011 Wed 03:49 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

Azerbaijanis may agree, their language is VERY close to Turkish anyway (just look at the titles: Milli Majlis in Azeri: Milli is the same in Turkish, Majlis is Meclis in Turkish)

But I doubt that ministers from Central Asian countries that have more of a Farsi root to their language (e.g. Tajikstan or Afghanistan) would agree.

 

What do TC classmates from those countries think?

 

Indeed!

Also note that, due to increasing popularity of Turkish TV series, the Azeri youth can speak İstanbul Turkish.

That may also be the case with Turkmens. I watched a Turkmen girl speaking good İstanbul Turkish on TV a couple of days ago. She revealed that she had not been to Turkia until recently from which I concluded that she must have already developed her current level outside of Turkia.

24.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:44 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Indeed!

Also note that, due to increasing popularity of Turkish TV series, the Azeri youth can speak İstanbul Turkish.

That may also be the case with Turkmens. I watched a Turkmen girl speaking good İstanbul Turkish on TV a couple of days ago. She revealed that she had not been to Turkia until recently from which I concluded that she must have already developed her current level outside of Turkia.

 

 May not just be TV influence... the Gülen schools are teaching Turkish the world over from Nigeria to UK, from California to the former CIS.

25.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:44 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

  NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

 

 Any more information on these, Tunci?

26.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:46 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

This is the flags from their website (WATP). 

You are right, Umut_Umut, the Tajik and Afghan flags are not there ... I had interpreted Turkic World as meaning Central Asia.

 

Some interesting flags here ... who can name them all?

 

 Tunci ... thanks for the ones you found. I got stuck on 2 that you didn´t post:

1. Red one with crescent and star in top right hand corner, flag is in between Cyprus and Turkmenistan in this picture

2. Blue one with funny yellow symbol. Flag is to the left of Nogay Türkleri (which is one I didn´t know: congrats to you!)

27.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:47 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Any more information on these, Tunci?

 

 You mean on " Nogay Türkleri " or in general ?

28.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:52 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Tunci ... thanks for the ones you found. I got stuck on 2 that you didn´t post:

1. Red one with crescent and star in top right hand corner, flag is in between Cyprus and Turkmenistan in this picture

2. Blue one with funny yellow symbol. Flag is to the left of Nogay Türkleri (which is one I didn´t know: congrats to you!)

 

 Mazzer, That one [ [1.] Red one] I couldnt find either. But this is the link I searched them from, may be you can have a look ; http://www.halukakcam.com/Bayraklar/Bayrak1.htm

29.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:52 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Tunci ... thanks for the ones you found. I got stuck on 2 that you didn´t post:

1. Red one with crescent and star in top right hand corner, flag is in between Cyprus and Turkmenistan in this picture

2. Blue one with funny yellow symbol. Flag is to the left of Nogay Türkleri (which is one I didn´t know: congrats to you!)

 

 

Second one is Flag of the Crimean Tatar Turks but the first one hmmmm i actually dont know.

 

30.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 04:06 pm

 

NOGAIS [ NOGAY TURKS]  --> NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

 

The Nogai people (also written as Nogay or Noghai) are a Turkic ethnic group in Southern Russia: northern Dagestan and Stavropol Krai, as well as in Karachay-Cherkessia and the Astrakhan Oblast; undefined number live in Chechnya. They speak the Nogai language and are descendants of various Turkic tribes, mainly Kipchaks, who formed the Nogai Horde.

Present inhabitations

In the 1990s, 65,000 were still living in the Northern Caucasus, divided into Ak (White) Nogai and Kara (Black) Nogai tribal confederations. During the Soviet period, they did not have administrative-territorial recognition, which retarded their national development. Nogais have lived within the territories of Daghestan, Chechnya, and Stavropol district. In Daghestan, they concentrated in the Khasavyurt region. Without legal recognition, the Nogais of North Caucasus are under the danger of assimilation to neighbouring Russian, Circassian and Kumuk people. The Kara-Nogays continued as nomads until the establishment of Soviet power.

A few thousand Nogais live in Dobruja(today in Romania), in the town of Mihail Kogălniceanu (Karamurat) and villages of Lumina (Kocali), Valea Dacilor (Hendekkarakuyusu), Cobadin (Kubadin).

An estimated 90,000 Nogais live in Turkey today, mainly settled in Ceyhan/Adana, Ankara and Eskisehir provinces. The Nogai language is still spoken in some of the villages of Central Anatolia - mainly around the Salt Lake, Eskişehir and Ceyhan. To this day, Nogais in Turkey have maintained their cuisine: Üken börek, kasık börek, tabak börek, şır börek, köbete and Nogay şay (Nogai tea - a drink prepared by boiling milk and tea together with butter, salt and pepper).

Some Nogais are also living in Amman, Jordan, mainly in an agriculture area called Wadi El Sir. They immigrated from Turkey to Wadi El Sir during the Ottoman era to support the Turkish army in the late 19th century. The Jordanian Nogais now communicate in Arabic, since Arabic was adopted as the official language of Jordan instead of Turkish. Jordanian Nogais mixed with Arab Jordanians and became part of the society.

The Junior Jüz, or the Lesser Horde of the Kazakhs, occupied the lands of the former Nogai Khanate in Western Kazakhstan. They originate from the Nogais.



Edited (11/24/2011) by tunci

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