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Azeri vekilden ´Türkçe ortak dil olsun´ önerisi
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1.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 01:54 pm

  

Azeri vekilden ´Türkçe ortak dil olsun´ önerisi

Azerbaycan Milli Meclisi milletvekili Nizamiy Cafarov, Türkçe´nin Türk dilli konuşan ülkelerde ´ortak dil´ olması teklifinde bulundu.

Nizamiy Cafarov Türk devletleri için Türkiye Türkçesi´nin ortak dil olarak kullanılmasının çok ideal seçenek olduğunu ifade etti. Azeri milletvekili, Türk dünyasındaki Türkçe eğitim yapan lise ve diğer eğitim kurumlarının bu alanda önemli bir temel teşkil ettiğini dile getirdi.

Türkçe´nin 1990 itibariyle bölgede eğitim vermeye başlayan Türk liseleri sayesinde daha da yaygınlaştığını dile getiren vekil Cabarov, var olan bu temel sayesinde Türkçe´nin ortak dil olarak kullanılmasının ciddi bir sorun teşkil etmeyeceğini aktardı.

(CİHAN)

2.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 02:00 pm

 

Turkish may become the common language of the Turkic world

Turkish can be accepted as a common language of the Turkic

world, ," the chairman of the committee on culture of Milli Majlis of Azerbaijan,

Nizami Jafarov, said today at the conference "Cultural integration of the

Turkic world: common Turkic alphabet and language", reports Trend.

"The Turkish language already has the function of a common language - more

than 100 million people speak Turkish," said Jafarov.

He said the existence of a Turkic language does not imply

that any of the  Turkic-speaking people would lose the wealth of their

own language. "This is a common means of communication to the Turkic

peoples to interact with each other not using any other foreign but

the Turkic language," said Jafarov. According to him, the issue of

Turkic language for many years was discussed at the Congress of Turkic

peoples.

"The unity of the Turkic world is created not for any military

cooperation, not against someone, but in order to promote peace in the

region"  said Turkish Ambassador to Azerbaijan Hulusi Kilic.  Creating

a common language and alphabet of the Turkic peoples has long been a

historical necessity, said at the event the Deputy Sevinj Huseynova

 

Source ; Vestnik Kavkaza News.

 



Edited (11/22/2011) by tunci

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3.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 04:00 pm

Azerbaijanis may agree, their language is VERY close to Turkish anyway (just look at the titles: Milli Majlis in Azeri: Milli is the same in Turkish, Majlis is Meclis in Turkish)

But I doubt that ministers from Central Asian countries that have more of a Farsi root to their language (e.g. Tajikstan or Afghanistan) would agree.

 

What do TC classmates from those countries think?

4.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:15 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

Azerbaijanis may agree, their language is VERY close to Turkish anyway (just look at the titles: Milli Majlis in Azeri: Milli is the same in Turkish, Majlis is Meclis in Turkish)

But I doubt that ministers from Central Asian countries that have more of a Farsi root to their language (e.g. Tajikstan or Afghanistan) would agree.

 

What do TC classmates from those countries think?

 

Marionin it is written "the common language of the Turkic world"  and Tajikistan and Afghanistan are not Turkic countries. So no problem

 

5.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:26 pm

 

Quoting Umut_Umut

 

 

Marionin it is written "the common language of the Turkic world"  and Tajikistan and Afghanistan are not Turkic countries. So no problem

 

 

 The 40 percent of Tajikistan population is Tajik Turks which is 3.500.000 people. The rest is majorly Persian origin.

6.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:28 pm

This is the flags from their website (WATP). 

You are right, Umut_Umut, the Tajik and Afghan flags are not there ... I had interpreted Turkic World as meaning Central Asia.

 

Some interesting flags here ... who can name them all?

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7.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:34 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

Some interesting flags here ... who can name them all?

 

I´ll start ... Bottom left is Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Above that is Turkey. To the right of Turkey is Azerbaijan.

 

Who´s next ...

8.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:38 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

I´ll start ... Bottom left is Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Above that is Turkey. To the right of Turkey is Azerbaijan.

 

Who´s next ...

 

If we could tag them it would be easier hehe

 

 

 

9.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:40 pm

 

   KAZAKİSTAN

10.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:43 pm

 

     TÜRKMENİSTAN

11.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:45 pm

 

   KIRGIZİSTAN

12.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:48 pm

 

 ÖZBEKİSTAN

13.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:51 pm

 

   DOĞU TÜRKİSTAN

14.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:55 pm

 

 DAĞISTAN CUMHURİYETİ [KUZEY KAFKAS]

15.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 08:59 pm

 

 ÇUVAŞİSTAN CUMHURİYETİ [VOLGA]

16.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:02 pm

 

 ALTAY CUMHURİYETİ [SİBİRYA]

17.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:05 pm

 

 SAHA -YAKUTİSTAN CUMHURİYETİ

                                                                                           [UZAK DOĞU ]

18.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:09 pm

 

  TUVA CUMHURİYETİ [SİBİRYA]

19.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:12 pm

 

 HAKASYA CUMHURİYETİ [SİBİRYA]

20.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:15 pm

 

 GAGAVUZ BÖLGESİ [MOLDOVA]

21.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:19 pm

 

  NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

22.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Nov 2011 Tue 09:25 pm

 

 MESKET-AHISKA TÜRKLERİ [GÜRCİSTAN]

23.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Nov 2011 Wed 03:49 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

Azerbaijanis may agree, their language is VERY close to Turkish anyway (just look at the titles: Milli Majlis in Azeri: Milli is the same in Turkish, Majlis is Meclis in Turkish)

But I doubt that ministers from Central Asian countries that have more of a Farsi root to their language (e.g. Tajikstan or Afghanistan) would agree.

 

What do TC classmates from those countries think?

 

Indeed!

Also note that, due to increasing popularity of Turkish TV series, the Azeri youth can speak İstanbul Turkish.

That may also be the case with Turkmens. I watched a Turkmen girl speaking good İstanbul Turkish on TV a couple of days ago. She revealed that she had not been to Turkia until recently from which I concluded that she must have already developed her current level outside of Turkia.

24.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:44 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Indeed!

Also note that, due to increasing popularity of Turkish TV series, the Azeri youth can speak İstanbul Turkish.

That may also be the case with Turkmens. I watched a Turkmen girl speaking good İstanbul Turkish on TV a couple of days ago. She revealed that she had not been to Turkia until recently from which I concluded that she must have already developed her current level outside of Turkia.

 

 May not just be TV influence... the Gülen schools are teaching Turkish the world over from Nigeria to UK, from California to the former CIS.

25.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:44 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

  NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

 

 Any more information on these, Tunci?

26.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:46 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

This is the flags from their website (WATP). 

You are right, Umut_Umut, the Tajik and Afghan flags are not there ... I had interpreted Turkic World as meaning Central Asia.

 

Some interesting flags here ... who can name them all?

 

 Tunci ... thanks for the ones you found. I got stuck on 2 that you didn´t post:

1. Red one with crescent and star in top right hand corner, flag is in between Cyprus and Turkmenistan in this picture

2. Blue one with funny yellow symbol. Flag is to the left of Nogay Türkleri (which is one I didn´t know: congrats to you!)

27.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:47 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Any more information on these, Tunci?

 

 You mean on " Nogay Türkleri " or in general ?

28.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:52 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Tunci ... thanks for the ones you found. I got stuck on 2 that you didn´t post:

1. Red one with crescent and star in top right hand corner, flag is in between Cyprus and Turkmenistan in this picture

2. Blue one with funny yellow symbol. Flag is to the left of Nogay Türkleri (which is one I didn´t know: congrats to you!)

 

 Mazzer, That one [ [1.] Red one] I couldnt find either. But this is the link I searched them from, may be you can have a look ; http://www.halukakcam.com/Bayraklar/Bayrak1.htm

29.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 03:52 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 Tunci ... thanks for the ones you found. I got stuck on 2 that you didn´t post:

1. Red one with crescent and star in top right hand corner, flag is in between Cyprus and Turkmenistan in this picture

2. Blue one with funny yellow symbol. Flag is to the left of Nogay Türkleri (which is one I didn´t know: congrats to you!)

 

 

Second one is Flag of the Crimean Tatar Turks but the first one hmmmm i actually dont know.

 

30.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 04:06 pm

 

NOGAIS [ NOGAY TURKS]  --> NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

 

The Nogai people (also written as Nogay or Noghai) are a Turkic ethnic group in Southern Russia: northern Dagestan and Stavropol Krai, as well as in Karachay-Cherkessia and the Astrakhan Oblast; undefined number live in Chechnya. They speak the Nogai language and are descendants of various Turkic tribes, mainly Kipchaks, who formed the Nogai Horde.

Present inhabitations

In the 1990s, 65,000 were still living in the Northern Caucasus, divided into Ak (White) Nogai and Kara (Black) Nogai tribal confederations. During the Soviet period, they did not have administrative-territorial recognition, which retarded their national development. Nogais have lived within the territories of Daghestan, Chechnya, and Stavropol district. In Daghestan, they concentrated in the Khasavyurt region. Without legal recognition, the Nogais of North Caucasus are under the danger of assimilation to neighbouring Russian, Circassian and Kumuk people. The Kara-Nogays continued as nomads until the establishment of Soviet power.

A few thousand Nogais live in Dobruja(today in Romania), in the town of Mihail Kogălniceanu (Karamurat) and villages of Lumina (Kocali), Valea Dacilor (Hendekkarakuyusu), Cobadin (Kubadin).

An estimated 90,000 Nogais live in Turkey today, mainly settled in Ceyhan/Adana, Ankara and Eskisehir provinces. The Nogai language is still spoken in some of the villages of Central Anatolia - mainly around the Salt Lake, Eskişehir and Ceyhan. To this day, Nogais in Turkey have maintained their cuisine: Üken börek, kasık börek, tabak börek, şır börek, köbete and Nogay şay (Nogai tea - a drink prepared by boiling milk and tea together with butter, salt and pepper).

Some Nogais are also living in Amman, Jordan, mainly in an agriculture area called Wadi El Sir. They immigrated from Turkey to Wadi El Sir during the Ottoman era to support the Turkish army in the late 19th century. The Jordanian Nogais now communicate in Arabic, since Arabic was adopted as the official language of Jordan instead of Turkish. Jordanian Nogais mixed with Arab Jordanians and became part of the society.

The Junior Jüz, or the Lesser Horde of the Kazakhs, occupied the lands of the former Nogai Khanate in Western Kazakhstan. They originate from the Nogais.



Edited (11/24/2011) by tunci

31.       si++
3785 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 04:26 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

NOGAIS [ NOGAY TURKS]  --> NOGAY TÜRKLERİ

 

The Nogai people (also written as Nogay or Noghai) are a Turkic ethnic group in Southern Russia: northern Dagestan and Stavropol Krai, as well as in Karachay-Cherkessia and the Astrakhan Oblast; undefined number live in Chechnya. They speak the Nogai language and are descendants of various Turkic tribes, mainly Kipchaks, who formed the Nogai Horde.

Present inhabitations

In the 1990s, 65,000 were still living in the Northern Caucasus, divided into Ak (White) Nogai and Kara (Black) Nogai tribal confederations. During the Soviet period, they did not have administrative-territorial recognition, which retarded their national development. Nogais have lived within the territories of Daghestan, Chechnya, and Stavropol district. In Daghestan, they concentrated in the Khasavyurt region. Without legal recognition, the Nogais of North Caucasus are under the danger of assimilation to neighbouring Russian, Circassian and Kumuk people. The Kara-Nogays continued as nomads until the establishment of Soviet power.

A few thousand Nogais live in Dobruja(today in Romania), in the town of Mihail Kogălniceanu (Karamurat) and villages of Lumina (Kocali), Valea Dacilor (Hendekkarakuyusu), Cobadin (Kubadin).

An estimated 90,000 Nogais live in Turkey today, mainly settled in Ceyhan/Adana, Ankara and Eskisehir provinces. The Nogai language is still spoken in some of the villages of Central Anatolia - mainly around the Salt Lake, Eskişehir and Ceyhan. To this day, Nogais in Turkey have maintained their cuisine: Üken börek, kasık börek, tabak börek, şır börek, köbete and Nogay şay (Nogai tea - a drink prepared by boiling milk and tea together with butter, salt and pepper).

Some Nogais are also living in Amman, Jordan, mainly in an agriculture area called Wadi El Sir. They immigrated from Turkey to Wadi El Sir during the Ottoman era to support the Turkish army in the late 19th century. The Jordanian Nogais now communicate in Arabic, since Arabic was adopted as the official language of Jordan instead of Turkish. Jordanian Nogais mixed with Arab Jordanians and became part of the society.

The Junior Jüz, or the Lesser Horde of the Kazakhs, occupied the lands of the former Nogai Khanate in Western Kazakhstan. They originate from the Nogais.

 

You forgot to add the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nogais

32.       si++
3785 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 04:27 pm

Wouldn´t it be better to add a starter page where you can find much about Turkic peoples?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples



Edited (11/24/2011) by si++

33.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 05:02 pm

 

Quoting si++

Wouldn´t it be better to add a starter page where you can find much about Turkic peoples?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples

 

 YES, that is a better way..Eyvallah Si ++...

34.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Nov 2011 Thu 05:22 pm

 

List of Turkic dynasties and countries

The following is an incomplete list of historical dynasties which were at some time Turkic or the country they ruled were Turkic-speaking and of modern countries with significant Turkic populations or with an official Turkic language. The Turkic peoples have established at least 116 states, khaganates, beyliks, empires, nomadic empires and sultanates in history up to today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries

 

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