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10.       tunci
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 20 Mar 2013 Wed 01:46 pm

 

Quoting Abla

 

 

In the above classification not indefinite but generic. If it was indefinite there would be an indefinite article. I know it is a slight difference but meaningful for a learner who is making choices.

 

Actually your examples also confirm it: if we talk about ´his mobile phone´ the accusative marking of a definite object is inevidable  -  no generic interpretation any more.

 

                              Sol eliyle cep telefonunu tutuyor.

 

Sometimes we don´t need to put an indefinite article "bir".  

 

Sol eliyle cep telefonu tutuyor. ---> Here, we can consider that there is  "bir" before "cep telefonu". In practice , we sometimes don´t put indefinite article when we refer an indefinite object. 

Bir cep telefonu almam lazım --> I need to buy a mobile phone.

Cep telefonu almam lazım --> I need to buy a mobile phone.

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Cep telefonunu sakla ---> Can mean;

Hide your mobile phone

Hide his/her mobile phone --->  [onun] cep telefonunu sakla

Hide the mobile phone

 

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11.       tunci
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 20 Mar 2013 Wed 02:55 pm

 

Quoting HaNNo

what about this example:

 

Kızın yiyecek hiçbir şeyi yok

 

Thanks again

 

 

Kızın yiyecek hiçbir şeyi yok -----> 

 

If we break it into  literal elements ;

 

Her anything = hiçbir şeyi 

Kızın  hiçbir şeyi ---> The girl´s anything  

Kızın yiyecek hiçbir şeyi   ---> The girl´s anything to eat

Kızın yiyecek hiçbir şeyi yok --> There is not anything of the girl to eat.

 

which means ;

 

The girl has nothing to eat. [ The girl has not got anything to eat]

 

 

hiçbir şeyi ---> His/her nothing ,  in our case, nothingness is possessed by  the girl.

 

the girl´s nothing  [ the girl has nothing]

 

 

complicated ?   

 



Edited (3/20/2013) by tunci
Edited (3/20/2013) by tunci

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12.       HaNNo
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 20 Mar 2013 Wed 10:57 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

hiçbir şeyi ---> His/her nothing ,  in our case, nothingness is possessed by  the girl.

 

the girl´s nothing  [ the girl has nothing]

 

 

complicated ?   

 

 

To be honest it is complicated specially with a word like "nothing". I got it now but i hope i won´t forget it after awhile and come to ask you again

Sağol tunci {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

 

 

 

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