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10.       Erem
231 posts
 09 Jul 2006 Sun 12:48 pm

Violence solves nothing. Violence begets nothing but a vicious cycle of further violence.

Erem,

11.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 09 Jul 2006 Sun 01:44 pm

Quoting Erem:

Violence solves nothing. Violence begets nothing but a vicious cycle of further violence.

Erem,



I agree.

I've never been slapped nor spanked by a teacher. The idea itself! In Holland a long discussion about the 'correcting slap' is going on, whether this should be forbidden at all or whether it's acceptable. I for myself wonder about it too.. I think if a parent 'softly' slaps on the hand of his son or daughter, this should be accepted. Because it has the responsibility over that child ánd raises it. But don't we give away this responsibility by sending them to school? This is what I keep asking myself.

But still I don't think one should be physically punished. As I said, I've never been slapped or spanked by a teacher and I've always respected them. The one who would hit me would definitely loose the respect I had.

I think Erem is right in rewarding the good things. It is prooven to be a good sollution for the problem.
Thinking of myself.. when I still went to highschool (hahahaha lovely to say, sounds like it's years ago ), I was always too late.. I usually skipped the first 2, sometimes 3 classes. I just preferred my bed over those lessons. Then we had a new tutor, whom I respected a lot. He set up the following arrangement: each morning I had to come to his office first and write down at what time I entered the building. If I came on tiem a whole week, I would get a morning off the next week.
Since then I've always been on time. Because I respected the teacher and felt teh responsibility to go on time, as he set up this whole thing for me.

Also, a problem comes up about the spanking/slapping. You can only 'slap/spank' children on a certain age.. once they grow older they will not accept this anymore. Where will you put the limit and what to do when that limit is reached?

But those children mentioned before, who shoot their own classmates and tutors.. spanking really wouldn't have stopped that. Nor would have rewarding good behavior. It's much deeper and unfortunately I have no idea what a proper sollution could be.

12.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 09 Jul 2006 Sun 02:09 pm

Shoot all your weird students, before they shoot you !

13.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 09 Jul 2006 Sun 02:35 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Shoot all your weird students, before they shoot you !


absolutely not!
let the students shoot down all the teachers as well as the rest of students, then afterwards let us reward them with a chocolate bar for braveness, sincerety, creativity etc.
spanking is a violence -> violence is evil!

14.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 09 Jul 2006 Sun 03:26 pm

Right !
Yours is an absolutely better idea.

15.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 09 Jul 2006 Sun 03:52 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Right !
Yours is an absolutely better idea.


thanks dear!
u r rite that im rite!

16.       Erem
231 posts
 10 Jul 2006 Mon 03:58 am

I agree that a little spank on the butt by a parent's acceptable. After all, a five year old's not going to understand from "Honey, don't do that." but if you spank them when they're naughty, they'll remember the pain of it, and not continue their bad behaviour.

However, it's like she said, it shouldn't be a "hurtful" spank. A little spank, enough to make it felt's good enough.
But also as she said, after some age, this isn't acceptable anymore. Because once a child reaches the age of reason, physicality's not an option. Then, what I've suggested earlier should come into action. Which is rewarding good behaviour.

Erem,

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