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Çocuk kitapı
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27 Jul 2006 Thu 04:57 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: Yes, it is "belirtisiz isim tamlaması" (undefined noun modification).
There is a problem with "birkaç ... -lar".
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Yes of course there is 
I wrote the sentence first then added "birkaç" as an afterthought!!!
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitabı alabilirim nereden?
Is that correct?
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27 Jul 2006 Thu 05:05 pm |
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Quoting bod:
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitabı alabilirim nereden?
Is that correct? |
Almost. The only problem is word order.
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27 Jul 2006 Thu 05:08 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: Quoting bod:
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitabı alabilirim nereden?
Is that correct? |
Almost. The only problem is word order.
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Then it has to be a bit of a guess......
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitabı nereden alabilirim?
Does "çocuk" need an -ı suffix as "Türkçe" is a noun that describes "çocuk kitabı"?
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27 Jul 2006 Thu 05:38 pm |
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This is very good bod. This sentence is correct. Another option would be starting with "Nereden...?". They would be equal.
Türkçe, in this sentence is an adjective.
eski çocuk kitabı
ucuz çocuk kitabı
mavi çocuk kitabı
Türkçe çocuk kitabı
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28 Jul 2006 Fri 01:17 pm |
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Then it is not right to say
Kitap Çocukları ??
And his main sentence was
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitapları alabilirim nereden?
Where can I buy some Turkish children's books from?
İn English we can say some,and put both words in plural too,as in children and books
We don't do this Türkçe'de ?
İ mean the correct sentence was
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitabı nereden alabilirim?
To translate it word by word it would be
where can i buy some turkish child book ?
So it is not same Türkçe'de as İngilizce ,right ?
And if he didn't put birkaç ,would it be
Türkçe çocuklar kitapları nereden alabilirim?
Or only one word of them should be plural??
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28 Jul 2006 Fri 01:56 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: İn English we can say some,and put both words in plural too,as in children and books
We don't do this Türkçe'de ? |
As far as I know, when you use words like kaç, birkaç, etc or when you use a number in the sentence, you can't use plural.
For example:
- Bir tost kaç lira?
- Bir tost iki lira
- Bir yılda kaç hafta var?
- Bir yılda elli iki hafta var
But, you say:
- Evde çocuklar var
- Dolapta tabaklar var
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28 Jul 2006 Fri 03:26 pm |
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"Birkaç" means "a few" and because it means "a few" it takes a singular noun.
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28 Jul 2006 Fri 03:51 pm |
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and if we removed birkaç from the sentence,which word do we make it prular ? çocuk or kitap ?
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28 Jul 2006 Fri 06:44 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Then it is not right to say
Kitap Çocukları ??
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Kitap çocukları: The children of books
Quoting CANLI: And his main sentence was
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitapları alabilirim nereden?
Where can I buy some Turkish children's books from? |
nereden should be before "alabilirim"
Quoting CANLI: İn English we can say some,and put both words in plural too,as in children and books
We don't do this Türkçe'de ?
İ mean the correct sentence was
Birkaç Türkçe çocuk kitabı nereden alabilirim?
To translate it word by word it would be
where can i buy some turkish child book ?
So it is not same Türkçe'de as İngilizce ,right ?
And if he didn't put birkaç ,would it be
Türkçe çocuklar kitapları nereden alabilirim?
Or only one word of them should be plural??
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because you dont need to think in English. At least, we English learners try not to think like a Turk, so we can understand the different. Think just the imagination.
çocuk kitabı < child book
çocuk kitapları < children books
Just the reference word is plural
polis memuru: policeman
polis memurları: policemen
as you see, you dont say "polisler memurları"
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 01:35 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: İn English we can say some,and put both words in plural too,as in children and books |
In English we do not pluralise both words!
We add an "'s" to the end of the first word to show possession or association. "Children's book" the book belonging to or intended for children.
Here are some more examples:
John's car
John's cars
My mother's house
My girlfriend's mother's house
My friend's father's brothers
If an article is used then it relates to the first noun.
A man's clothes
The man's clothes
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 02:06 pm |
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bod,
children is plural,i didn't say children's is plural
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