What kind of question is that 'which topics shouldn't be talked about with turkish men'? How can you love someone who doesn't treat men and women equally, who lives by double standards and with whom you can't even exchange ideas about some of the most important things in life? I think such a person shouldn't be talked to at all, so the answer to your question is 'all of them' . I feel sorry for all the girls who fall for this type of men... and from the description of turkish guys I hear most often, it looks like they are the world's biggest bastards.

Hello,
I do not think all of them are bastards tough. Most of them are very nice , caring and sweet creatures. I think it depends how lucky you are and how you choose your friends. It is up to us , girls. Just think twice before giving your heart away.
Good luck to everyone...

hello,
I think the problem is in diferent culture, in diferent views on life. Turkish people are muslims and they image family diferent way than we do. The man is main in the family, he is responsible to give to his wife and kids foods, conditions for living, he should earn money for his family. But at the same time he ask from wife to follow him in all his opinions. Wife should care about home and kids, even if she works she must do everything at home. The woman should keep silience on public, her behavior should be as good muslim woman ( to hold her andry and emotions, to be carefull from others men sights) Actually there are alot of limits for women. But at the same time wife iseverything for her husband , he cares about her everywhere and everytime, and he will do all his best to give everything for her and his kids.
If you are not muslim the complicates are possible. Sooner or later he will ask you to covert to islam. But any belief should come from heart and human cannot convert coz somebody ask you do it.
To understand your turkish boyfriend more you should read and learn about islam. This way you will understand his thoughts and his views on life. Actually islam is very nice religion that ask people to folow good and right way in theirs life.

Perhaps "bastards" is too strong a word. Characteristics which may seem shocking to "western" women may not necessarily prove Turks' disrespect to women. All of my Turkish friends who are in steady relationships greatly respect their partners although they sometimes use words like "I will LET her work" or "If she INSISTS I might help her with cooking." Personally, I suppose we should view their attitude as a sign of improvement rather than inequality. Let's not forget that what we have been used to living in our societies is something we own to our great grandmothers and grandmothers. Maybe what's going on in Turkey is similar to what was going on here 100 years ago and we shouldn't criticise them for trying to change for better (better according to our way of thinking).
Of course, for a modern (western) woman it's hard to accept being forced to or not allowed to do certain things only because of her sex. But is it so for a Turkish one?

What's happening in Turkey is but a great mixture of traditions and new things. Should Turks be compared to bastards because they've been brought up in a traditional society? I don't think so. There are bastards in the western world and I'm sure there are ones in Turkey, but I don't think it is being traditional that makes them ones.

However, I agree that it is difficult to accept different way of thinking, let alone live in a society differing so greatly from what we're used to. So..girls..think twice before you give your hearts away to a handsome and charming Turk coz, once the initial magic is gone, living with him may turn out to be a painful disappointment.

Oooops sorry guys, I didn't mean to sound so harsh. I agree on everything that's been said... which doesn't change the fact that "from the descriptions of turkish guys I hear most often [in this site], it looks to me that they... live by double standards". And surely the culture and such beliefs are product of many things, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be critical of them.
I don't think I have to say that there are also bad things going on in western cultures as well as that there are some quite amazing Turkish men out there.

I do not think Islam is the core of this question.
In every nationality and every religion there are caring men(husbands, boyfriends...)And everywhere you can see same kind of man as turkish.I do not think it is coming from Islam.In Russia christian men are acting same way.There are so many families, where women do not have any rights to talk or act as they wish.The man has to say "His Word". And since ancient time he was the head of household(Golova , glava semyi).But it doesn't mean they are despots and do not love their wives.Just it is tradition that woman has to be in public the way western women do not like.In the family they are respected and equal members of family.
I think family traditions are playng huge role in this.
I do not think if men are thinking the way they do in Turkey or anywhere else are 'bastards'.Let's be very careful with this kind of words and do not hurt our loved ones.Compromise is great thing in every relationship.

No offence Kedikadincim
I see your point, but just felt obligued to play "the devil's advocate" for a moment and point out that not all guys are the same, so basically, what u concluded in the last post

He he, me too.
Like X-man says always "No war", just discussion.
Doesn't matter what we are talking about, we all respect each other.

Thank you Daydreamer , you're definitely right. Bliss - it's interesting what you said about Russians. I didn't say that I blame Islam for some of the bad things in Turkish culture although I think that Islamic rules had a lot to do with that.
Women were and still are oppressed in many places in the world, mostly in the underdeveloped regions. There are many ways in which men have done that. Wherever there is no law punishing oppression, men will use their physical strength as a source of power and threat.
One thing that shocks me about Turkey, is that the young generation still lives by those old beliefs, that's not very optimistic.

I absolutelly agree that in any religion, in any nationality, in any race there are good and bad people. But i was meaning that religion forms human's view on life and his bevaviour in the socety. Ecpesially if human is strong in his religion. "Western women" are much more emancipated than eastern. Thats why sometimes we feel ourself confused.

As a Turkish man, I am a bit offended when I read the topic "Topics that women are not able to argue with Turkish men." Because I am not a man with whom any woman can't argue on certain topics. And, I don't want to be known as like that.

i worry about how many girls on here fall for the turkish guys because of their romantic words. they are clever and need you most of the time. so many turkish men learn these words before they meet the girl, but girl can hear them and fall for them, but after long time married, very changed. i just like girls understand, is not so easy to fall for someone and you not really know them.

I love argueing with tukish man
and it isn't dificulte

ramayan... that was very well put... i couldnt agree more aferin sana arkadasim

women should not argue about man's car.

I think that anyone should be able to argue with anyone on any subject - respecting each others different points of views.

Another question is whether there are certain topics where some turkish men will not listen to a womans point of view?

I don´t know...you tell me!

I consider myself very blessed after reading some of these posts. My fiance and I are able to talk about anything. I have somewhat of a past, divorced. Became a single mother after my divorce. So obviously, I am no virgin. I am a Christian, he is a Muslim. We respect each other's decision. One of the things he loves about me is that I have worked hard to take care of my son. Now, he wants to take care of both of us. He wants me to quit work and go back to school if I choose, or I can choose to continue working. He would prefer I be the queen of his home, but the choice is mine. I love his traditional ways. Yes, he can be jealous, but considering my ex-boyfriend introduced me to him, my fiancee is quite an understanding, gentle person. I respect his culture and he tries hard to understand mine. He has never gotten angry with me when I approach religion or any other topic for that matter. It is important to him that we understand each other. We both have a great respect for each other. I think finding the balance is extremely important. It was hard not to fall in love with such a romantic man, but I am so glad I gave him that chance. I thought romance only lived in fairy tales, now I live it every day. Best of luck to all of you.

As a Turkish man I can say we have some "animals" here...yeah! and if a woman falls in love with an animal,she is an animal too(the same thing happens for men)

I am witnessing lots of relationships where the boys treat their gf s as slaves,and their girlfriends seem that they like to be treated this way.lemme confess(welll some of you already know this )that I am a kinda conservative boy and I can't say anything or argue about this kind of situations but only think that those girls deserve to be treated what they like.If they become their boy friends' slaves,its their fault.As I said previously,only an animal falls in love with another animal.According to my observations,Those kinda girls are mostly stupid,who dont know anything but making love .

And I really cant understand the complaints of girls about their boyfriends...if you are stupid,you get tricked easily
and if you are stupid,you dont have the right to talk...

Saygılaaarr...

aahhh seems you got me wrong
I said we have "some" animals,not "all the turkish men are animals" I never & cant mean it coz I am male