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29 Aug 2006 Tue 08:04 pm |
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Quoting natiypuspi: Erdinc:
What social connotation has arabesk music? Or is it a sign of danger if he ONLY listens to arabesk music? |
Turkish men who are listening Arabesk music do beat their wives more than those who don't listen. There will be more violance in the families where the man listens arabesk.
Also there are more alcohol addicted men among arabesk listeners than there are among not arabesk listeners.
Of course if you don't care whether or not the man you met is an alcohol addict or is likely to use violence then no problem. Good luck with your relations.
If you do care, you have been warned.
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 08:37 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: Quoting natiypuspi: Erdinc:
What social connotation has arabesk music? Or is it a sign of danger if he ONLY listens to arabesk music? |
Turkish men who are listening Arabesk music do beat their wives more than those who don't listen. There will be more violance in the families where the man listens arabesk.
Also there are more alcohol addicted men among arabesk listeners than there are among not arabesk listeners.
Of course if you don't care whether or not the man you met is an alcohol addict or is likely to use violence then no problem. Good luck with your relations.
If you do care, you have been warned. |
Erdinc, just curious is this your opinion or are there statistics validating this. What does listening to Arabesk music have to do with violence and alcoholism. Sorry, I'm uneducated in this area. Please enlighten me. Since people here listen to all kinds of music, but they also do link rap music to violence etc..
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:09 am |
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Quoting teaschip: Erdinc, just curious is this your opinion or are there statistics validating this. What does listening to Arabesk music have to do with violence and alcoholism. Sorry, I'm uneducated in this area. Please enlighten me. Since people here listen to all kinds of music, but they also do link rap music to violence etc.. |
I'm an expert on arabesk music (music of pain) and arabesk lovers. I don't need any statistics. I should write an article about this issue when I have a little time.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:18 am |
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We will be waiting for it. You got me curious.
I once sent a song to a Turkish friend of mine and he said people would find it very very weird that a young western girl liked such music. I think it was halk müziği though.
Speaking of Arabesk, can someone in the meantime tell me some good Arabesk singers? (to state music as 'good' you don't necessarily have to like it  ).
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:05 am |
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Here are two of the very best songs of all time of music of pain:
edit:
active links are below on the next message.
It doesn't get any more arabesk than this.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:20 am |
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Quoting erdinc: Here are two of the very best songs of all time of music of pain:
Orhan Gencebay - "Batsın Bu Dünya"
http://www.capkinalem.de/downloads/orhangencebaybatsinbudunya.mp3
İbrahim Tatlıses - "Neden Saçların Beyazlamış Arkadaş"
http://www.capkinalem.de/downloads/ibrahimtatlisesnedensaclarinbeyazlamisarkadas.mp3
It doesn't get any more arabesk than this. |
Unfortunately I can't open them. I'l try again or find these titles.
For others who are interested: Ibo was easy to find: download Ibrahim Tatlises' song here.
Edit 2 Nor was Orhan Gencebay! download the second arabesk of this thread here!
They both work with the 'right click - save target as'-principle.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:22 am |
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Yes, it doesn't work now. Must be because their bandwidt.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:27 am |
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Well I found them both and downloaded and listened them. I like the Ibo-song, but I've really had enough of his voice. I wish someone else sang it, cos I like the instruments and melody-line.
The other one doesn't really do anything with me. I think that is because the instruments are not that prominent. I usually love the songs with strong company of instruments.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:34 am |
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It is very interesting everything that was said. However, I am very attentive to erdinc's comments, and I pondered on the list of 10 things or signs to look for in a 'problem or too traditional' family. So if i can associate with two or more things in my boyfriend's family which are the wearing of headscarves and he not having any close female friends, should I be concerned. He does not like the idea of me talking to guys or going out with a mxied group of friends. I assumed this was a common Turkish behavior. Please do enlighten me.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:40 am |
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Quoting caribena: It is very interesting everything that was said. However, I am very attentive to erdinc's comments, and I pondered on the list of 10 things or signs to look for in a 'problem or too traditional' family. So if i can associate with two or more things in my boyfriend's family which are the wearing of headscarves and he not having any close female friends, should I be concerned. He does not like the idea of me talking to guys or going out with a mxied group of friends. I assumed this was a common Turkish behavior. Please do enlighten me. |
Well only you can judge about your boyfriend, if you know him well, that is 
Many things in the behavior are due to culture. However, try not to mix up a personality with culture. It may be cultural determined not to talk with a guy, but it might as well be so into his personality, that he will become furious if you dó talk with another guy. If you can't accept that.. And I think you shouldn't, as he knows you're from a different culture too.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 02:08 am |
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caribena,
The assumtions foreign women make about their Turkish boyfriends usually ruin their life. It is very common for a foreign female to be in relation with a Turkish guy who would never have a normal relationship with a Turkish girl. Foreigners simply don't understand some lifstyles because there is no such lifestyle or anything smillar where they come from.
I have serious doubts about your relationship from what you have told.
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