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31 Aug 2006 Thu 01:23 pm |
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To ask a general question such as "what are you doing?" which verb would one use?
Sen ne etiyorsun?
Sen ne yapıyorsun?
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31 Aug 2006 Thu 02:14 pm |
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Ne yapıyorsun? is better.
Ne ediyorsun is also acceptable but not common. I hear that mostly in countryside, or from the people who grew up in little centers/cities or countrysides. Sometimes I use it while I am speaking with my close friends as a joke/slang:
"ne ediyon"="n'ediyon"
"n'örüyon"
By the way they can be used as a slang something like "whazzup?" or "how're you doing?" or "just "how are you?"
and in addition "what's up" and "what are the news" slangs;
"n'aber"(we know it mostly as "naber"= "ne haber")
"n'ettin"(ne yaptın=ne ettin)
But they are not for formal things, if you are very close, you can use them. Normally: Ne yapıyorsun(uz)?(+uz for mr.brown who is not close )
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31 Aug 2006 Thu 02:23 pm |
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Quoting caliptrix: Ne yapıyorsun? is better.
Ne ediyorsun is also acceptable but not common. |
I thought the consonant harmony t -> d only applied to words of more than one syllabul......
Quoting caliptrix: Sometimes I use it while I am speaking with my close friends as a joke/slang:
"ne ediyon"="n'ediyon"
"n'örüyon" |
ediyon is a short form of ediyorsun - doğru mu?
Quoting caliptrix: By the way they can be used as a slang something like "whazzup?" or "how're you doing?" or "just "how are you?"
and in addition "what's up" and "what are the news" slangs;
"n'aber"(we know it mostly as "naber"= "ne haber")
"n'ettin"(ne yaptın=ne ettin)
But they are not for formal things |
I know naber - I use it lots when texting a few Türk arkadaşım 
Is nettin used the same way?
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31 Aug 2006 Thu 02:31 pm |
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Quoting bod: ediyon is a short form of ediyorsun - doğru mu? |
Yes, sorry i would write it but i forgot...
nereye gidiyon? wants to say: nereye gidiyorsun?
yazı yazıyom wants to say: yazı yazıyorum
otobüs gidiyo wants to say: otobüs gidiyor
iniyoz wants to say: iniyoruz
kaçıyonuz wants to say: kaçıyorsunuz
but these are just in speech, like -ecek -acak future tense suffixes:
gitcez wants to say: gideceğiz
dövcem wants to say: döveceğim
atacanız wants to say: atacaksınız
bilcekler wants to say: bilecekler
do not use them in writings.
Quoting bod: I know naber - I use it lots when texting a few Türk arkadaşım
Is nettin used the same way? |
I think yes, it is same. by the way, one may ask this too:
"Ne ettin= "what did you do?"
Depends on his reaction and stress
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03 Sep 2006 Sun 11:23 am |
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d to t changes apply when the suffix begins with a vowel I think.
If there is more than one suffix that changes de and den.
eg. arabası -dan becomes
arabasından
Hope this is right as I am only a beginner but think I have remembered correctly
Cheers Jo-Anne 
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03 Sep 2006 Sun 11:35 am |
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Quoting Jo_Anne:
If there is more than one suffix that changes de and den.
eg. arabası -dan becomes
arabasından
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İ didn't understand what do you mean ?
What happened if it is more than 1 suffix ?
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03 Sep 2006 Sun 11:50 am |
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I am still not understanding why et-iyor-sun becomes ediyorsun :-S
I understand consonant harmony but this lesson says:
However, if the word has more than one syllable, than the consonant at the end changes.
- p becomes b
- ç becomes c
- t becomes d
- k becomes ğ
et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!
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03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:00 pm |
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Yes bod,you are right
Like bakmak....it is still bakıyorum ..K didn't change into Ğ here
But as in English there are some irregulars,or exceptions from the rules
And with ( yor ) there are lots of exceptions too
Like the negative suffix (ma) has 4 shapes not only 2
So it is a rule also 't' change into 'd' if it was followed by vowel even if it was 1 syllable
As in gitmek too it is 1 syllable and it changed to gidiyor
So always T changed to D in any case
That is what i know, correction please if it was wrong ,Ty
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03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:06 pm |
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Quoting bod: I am still not understanding why et-iyor-sun becomes ediyorsun :-S
I understand consonant harmony but this lesson says:
However, if the word has more than one syllable, than the consonant at the end changes.
- p becomes b
- ç becomes c
- t becomes d
- k becomes ğ
et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!
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It's about words consisting of only one syllable (and also proper names btw).
Example:
üç becomes üçe, not uce
Uşak becomes Uşak'a, not Uşağa
People may pronounce it as if they apply the rule, but in written it doesn't follow it.
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03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:19 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: Quoting bod: et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!
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It's about words consisting of only one syllable (and also proper names btw). |
So et is subject to the rule because it is not a single syllable WORD but rather the verb stem of the two syllable etmek - bu doğru mu?
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