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1.       bod
5999 posts
 31 Aug 2006 Thu 01:23 pm

To ask a general question such as "what are you doing?" which verb would one use?

Sen ne etiyorsun?
Sen ne yapıyorsun?

2.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 31 Aug 2006 Thu 02:14 pm

Ne yapıyorsun? is better.
Ne ediyorsun is also acceptable but not common. I hear that mostly in countryside, or from the people who grew up in little centers/cities or countrysides. Sometimes I use it while I am speaking with my close friends as a joke/slang:
"ne ediyon"="n'ediyon"
"n'örüyon"

By the way they can be used as a slang something like "whazzup?" or "how're you doing?" or "just "how are you?"

and in addition "what's up" and "what are the news" slangs;
"n'aber"(we know it mostly as "naber"= "ne haber")
"n'ettin"(ne yaptın=ne ettin)
But they are not for formal things, if you are very close, you can use them. Normally: Ne yapıyorsun(uz)?(+uz for mr.brown who is not close)

3.       bod
5999 posts
 31 Aug 2006 Thu 02:23 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

Ne yapıyorsun? is better.
Ne ediyorsun is also acceptable but not common.



I thought the consonant harmony t -> d only applied to words of more than one syllabul......

Quoting caliptrix:

Sometimes I use it while I am speaking with my close friends as a joke/slang:
"ne ediyon"="n'ediyon"
"n'örüyon"



ediyon is a short form of ediyorsun - doğru mu?

Quoting caliptrix:

By the way they can be used as a slang something like "whazzup?" or "how're you doing?" or "just "how are you?"

and in addition "what's up" and "what are the news" slangs;
"n'aber"(we know it mostly as "naber"= "ne haber")
"n'ettin"(ne yaptın=ne ettin)
But they are not for formal things



I know naber - I use it lots when texting a few Türk arkadaşım
Is nettin used the same way?

4.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 31 Aug 2006 Thu 02:31 pm

Quoting bod:

ediyon is a short form of ediyorsun - doğru mu?


Yes, sorry i would write it but i forgot...
nereye gidiyon? wants to say: nereye gidiyorsun?
yazı yazıyom wants to say: yazı yazıyorum
otobüs gidiyo wants to say: otobüs gidiyor
iniyoz wants to say: iniyoruz
kaçıyonuz wants to say: kaçıyorsunuz
but these are just in speech, like -ecek -acak future tense suffixes:
gitcez wants to say: gideceğiz
dövcem wants to say: döveceğim
atacanız wants to say: atacaksınız
bilcekler wants to say: bilecekler
do not use them in writings.

Quoting bod:

I know naber - I use it lots when texting a few Türk arkadaşım
Is nettin used the same way?



I think yes, it is same. by the way, one may ask this too:
"Ne ettin= "what did you do?"
Depends on his reaction and stress

5.       Jo_Anne
81 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 11:23 am

d to t changes apply when the suffix begins with a vowel I think.

If there is more than one suffix that changes de and den.
eg. arabası -dan becomes
arabasından
Hope this is right as I am only a beginner but think I have remembered correctly
Cheers Jo-Anne

6.       CANLI
5084 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 11:35 am

Quoting Jo_Anne:


If there is more than one suffix that changes de and den.
eg. arabası -dan becomes
arabasından



İ didn't understand what do you mean ?
What happened if it is more than 1 suffix ?

7.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 11:50 am

I am still not understanding why et-iyor-sun becomes ediyorsun :-S
I understand consonant harmony but this lesson says:

However, if the word has more than one syllable, than the consonant at the end changes.
- p becomes b
- ç becomes c
- t becomes d
- k becomes ğ


et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!

8.       CANLI
5084 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:00 pm

Yes bod,you are right

Like bakmak....it is still bakıyorum ..K didn't change into Ğ here

But as in English there are some irregulars,or exceptions from the rules

And with ( yor ) there are lots of exceptions too

Like the negative suffix (ma) has 4 shapes not only 2

So it is a rule also 't' change into 'd' if it was followed by vowel even if it was 1 syllable

As in gitmek too it is 1 syllable and it changed to gidiyor

So always T changed to D in any case

That is what i know, correction please if it was wrong ,Ty

9.       Elisa
0 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:06 pm

Quoting bod:

I am still not understanding why et-iyor-sun becomes ediyorsun :-S
I understand consonant harmony but this lesson says:

However, if the word has more than one syllable, than the consonant at the end changes.
- p becomes b
- ç becomes c
- t becomes d
- k becomes ğ


et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!



It's about words consisting of only one syllable (and also proper names btw).

Example:

üç becomes üçe, not uce
Uşak becomes Uşak'a, not Uşağa

People may pronounce it as if they apply the rule, but in written it doesn't follow it.

10.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:19 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting bod:

et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!



It's about words consisting of only one syllable (and also proper names btw).



So et is subject to the rule because it is not a single syllable WORD but rather the verb stem of the two syllable etmek - bu doğru mu?

11.       Elisa
0 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 12:23 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting bod:

et is only one sylable so should not be subject to the change from t to d!



It's about words consisting of only one syllable (and also proper names btw).



So et is subject to the rule because it is not a single syllable WORD but rather the verb stem of the two syllable etmek - bu doğru mu?



Yes, and of course because a vowel follows. As a consequent the rule doesn't apply to etmiyorum for example.

12.       susie k
1330 posts
 03 Sep 2006 Sun 04:59 pm

13.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 04 Sep 2006 Mon 10:39 pm

Quoting susie k:

Ne yaptal? This seems to be another one!
What are you making?


what are you making: ne yapıyorsun

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