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1.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 02:39 pm

Afternoon all.... can anyone tell me where i can get a list of all suffixes used in the BASIC stages of the turkish language plus their meanings? Would be grateful of some help. Just starting out learning and am struggling a little with the suffixes. Thank you all

2.       robin01
0 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 02:42 pm

i also found and still find suffixes in turkish difficult..i do believe there is a section on this site in regards to suffixes.. ..otherwise onlineturkish.com is also helpful..although i cant recollect whether suffixes were mentioned there....

3.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:12 pm

Here there is a suffix dictionary:

http://www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/index.htm



4.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:20 pm

Quoting natiypuspi:

Here there is a suffix dictionary:

http://www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/index.htm




Thank you so much for the link, but I really need meanings too or it does not help me. Thank you anyway, you are so kind

5.       robin01
0 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:29 pm

the meanings of what??if u could give an example maybe someone could help you better.. :-S
thanks for the link natyipuspi

6.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:36 pm

Quoting robin01:

the meanings of what??if u could give an example maybe someone could help you better.. :-S
thanks for the link natyipuspi


Well surely all suffixes mean something... That list of suffixes, looks great, but I don't know what any of the suffixes mean. For example, direction suffix, location suffix.....and so on. I could look down that list and not know which one I am supposed to be using as they have no meaning in english. Am I confusing everyone? I'm so confused myself. The more I try to explain what I want, the more confused I get.

7.       robin01
0 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:39 pm

they do explain..but not in much detail..when u click on them it says nominal/verbal and also gives examples of when they are used..this is helping me in determining the types anyway

8.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:43 pm

Quoting robin01:

they do explain..but not in much detail..when u click on them it says nominal/verbal and also gives examples of when they are used..this is helping me in determining the types anyway



Ohhhh hehehehe, I did not know I should click on the word.... It's a great site now I see. hehehehe !!! God Im an idiot sometimes..... THANK YOU XX

9.       robin01
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 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:47 pm

you are welcome hun

10.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 03:57 pm

If you want meaning of the basic ones, maybe you can see
http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/moresuffixes.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_grammar

http://www.practicalturkish.com/difficulties-of-turkish--den-suffix.html

http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/details/LanguageGuide/TurkishGrammar.html

I found these sites. Maybe an advanced student or a native speaker, can help us.

11.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 04:01 pm

Quote:

Quote:


Thank you so much for the link, but I really need meanings too or it does not help me. Thank you anyway, you are so kind



Anyway, you have some examples on the right. There aren't many...

12.       robin01
0 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 04:02 pm

she has found the link now..thanks for the link..it helped me neway

13.       bod
5999 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 04:07 pm

Quoting SWEET-HEART:

Quoting natiypuspi:

Here there is a suffix dictionary:

http://www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/index.htm



Thank you so much for the link, but I really need meanings too or it does not help me. Thank you anyway, you are so kind



It does have the meanings - and even some examples.
But do be aware that it is not a complete list of suffixes!

14.       aslan2
507 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 07:56 pm

I read somewhere that Turkish has about 400 of suffixes. Turkish is exclusively suffixing language. I cannot locate any site with complete listing. But a good grammar book should list all of them.

I can give some info here.

There are two classes:
Inflection
Derivation

Those used for inflexion modifies a word in various way. The meaning of the word inflected doesn't change:
ev -- house
ev-e -- to the house (-e is dative case suffix)

Those used for derivation creates new words with new meaning related to the word derived from.
ev -- house
ev-len-mek -- to get married

Derivational suffixes can further be classified according to the type of word a suffix is attached and to the type of the derived word.
The verb and the noun are two distinct types. So we have 4 possibility
1- N -> N (Noun to noun)
ev -- house
ev-li -- wed (-li suffix)

2- N -> V (Noun to verb)
ev -- house
ev-len-mek -- to get married (-len- suffix)

3- V -> N (Verb to noun)
ev-len-me -- wedding (-me suffix)

4- V -> V (Verb to verb)
ev-len-dir-mek (causative of evlenmek, -dir- suffix)

So according to this classification, some similar suffixes are actually different suffixes.
For example:

kaz-mak -- to dig
kaz-ı -- excavation (V->N)
kaz-ı-mak -- to scrape (V->V)

döv-mek -- to beat
döv-üş -- fight (V->N)
döv-üş-mek -- to beat one another (V->V)

15.       evabeshiri
156 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 08:07 pm

Quoting natiypuspi:

Here there is a suffix dictionary:

http://www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/index.htm





ooh that's a great site, thank you for posting the link! *saves to favorites* I swear, these rules for the Turkish suffixes, its almost exactly like learning medical terminology lol

16.       bod
5999 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 08:48 pm

Quoting aslan2:

I cannot locate any site with complete listing. But a good grammar book should list all of them.



Can you suggest a book that lists them all???
I have not been able to find one

17.       aslan2
507 posts
 04 Oct 2006 Wed 10:52 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting aslan2:

I cannot locate any site with complete listing. But a good grammar book should list all of them.



Can you suggest a book that lists them all???
I have not been able to find one



# Robert Underhill (1976). Turkish Grammar. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press. "A classic, still used to teach Turkish grammar in many universities."
# Kaya Can (1991). Yabancılar İçin Türkçe-İngilizce Açıklama Türkçe Dersleri. Ankara: Orta Doğu Teknik Üniversitesi, Fen ve Edebiyat Fakültesi. "Turkish lessons with Turkish-English explanation[s] for foreigners."
# G. L. Lewis (1967). Turkish Grammar. Oxford University Press. 0-19-815838-6.
# G. L. Lewis ( 2000 ). Turkish Grammar. Oxford University Press. Second edition. Structural differences between the two editions are not named in the second, but appear to be as follows: IV,4 "-çe", VI,7 "Arithmetical terms", XI,16 "-diğinde", and XII,25 "tâ" are new, while XV,1 "Nominal sentences and verbal sentences" in the first edition was dropped.

18.       Dilara
1153 posts
 05 Oct 2006 Thu 12:11 am

Be careful with this link :
www.dnathan.com/language/turkish/tsd/index.htm
I was told by a native turkish speaker that some of the suffixes and their explanation of usage are not correct (and he checked the page himself)
But generally speaking, it's very useful.
Dilara.

19.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 05 Oct 2006 Thu 01:03 pm

Quoting aslan2:

Quoting bod:

Quoting aslan2:

I cannot locate any site with complete listing. But a good grammar book should list all of them.



Can you suggest a book that lists them all???
I have not been able to find one



# Robert Underhill (1976). Turkish Grammar. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press. "A classic, still used to teach Turkish grammar in many universities."
# Kaya Can (1991). Yabancılar İçin Türkçe-İngilizce Açıklama Türkçe Dersleri. Ankara: Orta Doğu Teknik Üniversitesi, Fen ve Edebiyat Fakültesi. "Turkish lessons with Turkish-English explanation[s] for foreigners."
# G. L. Lewis (1967). Turkish Grammar. Oxford University Press. 0-19-815838-6.
# G. L. Lewis ( 2000 ). Turkish Grammar. Oxford University Press. Second edition. Structural differences between the two editions are not named in the second, but appear to be as follows: IV,4 "-çe", VI,7 "Arithmetical terms", XI,16 "-diğinde", and XII,25 "tâ" are new, while XV,1 "Nominal sentences and verbal sentences" in the first edition was dropped.



Thank you for that, anyone any ideas where we can buy these books?

20.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 05 Oct 2006 Thu 01:57 pm

Hi All, check out these websites.... Grammer books for sale...


http://www.pickabook.co.uk/0198700369.aspx

http://play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=BOOK&title=453941&source=7999&engine=froogle&keyword=Turkish+Grammar

http://books.1alot.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?categorycode=CFK&ISBN=0198700369


http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/browse.asp?ref=8120617495&source=J69

http://www.shop-com.co.uk/op/~Turkish:_A_Comprehensive_Grammar_(Comprehensive_Grammars_S)_Kerslake,_Celia_Goksel,_Asli-prod-31643866-41277762?sourceid=3090

(oops! you may have to copy and paste the last address)



21.       abece16
2 posts
 05 Oct 2006 Thu 02:09 pm

hi everybody
ı will be very happy when ı see a person who want to learn turkısh.thanks for everybody who want to learn turkısh.

22.       SWEET-HEART
52 posts
 05 Oct 2006 Thu 02:12 pm

Rica ederim ... Well... I am trying.

23.       aslan2
507 posts
 05 Oct 2006 Thu 02:37 pm

Quoting SWEET-HEART:

Hi All, check out these websites.... Grammer books for sale...


http://www.pickabook.co.uk/0198700369.aspx

http://play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=BOOK&title=453941&source=7999&engine=froogle&keyword=Turkish+Grammar

http://books.1alot.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?categorycode=CFK&ISBN=0198700369


http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/browse.asp?ref=8120617495&source=J69

http://www.shop-com.co.uk/op/~Turkish:_A_Comprehensive_Grammar_(Comprehensive_Grammars_S)_Kerslake,_Celia_Goksel,_Asli-prod-31643866-41277762?sourceid=3090

(oops! you may have to copy and paste the last address)





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