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I have found some interesting similarities between turkish and estonian
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10.       aslan2
507 posts
 12 Oct 2006 Thu 11:07 am

Quoting duda:


... Not that I adore Charles Darwin that much, but he said that personal pronouns in English are a kind of "atavism" in some structures, especially in predicate nominative, comparing it with languages where subject is not needed. That's why the Turkish language is so perfect.


And the same Darwin said some nasty things about Turks. Here is his famous quote:
"The Turkish nation will soon disappear, this is a law of evolution"

11.       eestlane
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 12 Oct 2006 Thu 04:05 pm

In the older turkish the personal pronoun "I" is "men" ?? and "sen" is "you" as I know - - so, in estonian "I" is "mina" (men) and "you" is "sina" (sen)

12.       aslan2
507 posts
 12 Oct 2006 Thu 04:13 pm

Quoting eestlane:

In the older turkish the personal pronoun "I" is "men" ?? and "sen" is "you" as I know - - so, in estonian "I" is "mina" (men) and "you" is "sina" (sen)


As in Finnish. How 'bout other pronouns?

13.       duda
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 12 Oct 2006 Thu 08:39 pm

Quote:

And the same Darwin said some nasty things about Turks. Here is his famous quote:
"The Turkish nation will soon disappear, this is a law of evolution"



I cited that just as one of his (rare) sensible and lucid conclusions. But I absolutely agree with you, it is better not to discuss the rest of his postulates concerning Eastern natons... E.g. that "Arabs are extremely unmusical..." And his states about some other nations... including mine... We should have dissapeared long ago, too. But this is not the topic, I quoted Darwin's just because of good chosen word "atavism", for I really find Turkish language almost perfect in comparison with many other European languages. Comparative linguistics is more than a hobby for me, so I am amazed with each new discovery about Turkish.

14.       aslan2
507 posts
 13 Oct 2006 Fri 08:37 am

Quoting duda:

Quote:

And the same Darwin said some nasty things about Turks. Here is his famous quote:
"The Turkish nation will soon disappear, this is a law of evolution"



I cited that just as one of his (rare) sensible and lucid conclusions. But I absolutely agree with you, it is better not to discuss the rest of his postulates concerning Eastern natons... E.g. that "Arabs are extremely unmusical..." And his states about some other nations... including mine... We should have dissapeared long ago, too. But this is not the topic, I quoted Darwin's just because of good chosen word "atavism", for I really find Turkish language almost perfect in comparison with many other European languages. Comparative linguistics is more than a hobby for me, so I am amazed with each new discovery about Turkish.


OK. It's also a hobby for me to study the Turkish grammar. A nearly perfect language (with some defects of course) in my opinion. Keep in mind that Turkish made contacts with many languages (Slavic languages, Persian, Finno-Ugric languages, Armenian, Greek, Albenian, Chinese etc) over the centuries in a very big geographical area. So there may be a lot of similarities. Armanian language for example has many Turkic elements (borrowings, suffixes etc). I read an article about the similarities between Turkish and Japanese recently. They are amazing.

15.       eestlane
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 21 Oct 2006 Sat 03:04 pm

other pronouns are totally different:

he/she = tema, ta
we = meie, me
you (plural) = teie, te
they = nemad, nad

there are parallel forms as you can see and all of them are used equally but none of them has any similarity to turkish

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