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imdat...!!!!!!
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18 May 2006 Thu 12:56 am |
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then, he was a spider... o bir örümcekti...
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:04 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:09 am |
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Quoting carol.trky: thanks YaaaaSHinnnn I will succeed in turkish because of u  |
and i will change my name because of you...
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:13 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:15 am |
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burdaydık or buradaydık...
buradaydınız
buradaydılar
ben buradaydım
sen buradaydın
o buradaydı
peki şimdi nerdesin? and now, where are you?
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:19 am |
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18 May 2006 Thu 01:57 am |
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Quoting caliptrix:
-ydım.. is just for after nouns:
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 i never knew that! i always wondered why the -y- was sometimes there and sometimes not  
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18 May 2006 Thu 06:53 am |
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Quoting oceanmavi: Quoting caliptrix:
-ydım.. is just for after nouns:
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i never knew that! i always wondered why the -y- was sometimes there and sometimes not |
i mean just with "to be" plus "noun", and the last letter is a vowel: a,e,ı,i,o,ö,u,ü
bela: o tam bir bela + idi = belaydı
hamile: o zamanlar Ahmet'e hamile idi =hamileydi
yankı: duyduğumuz sadece bir yankı idi = yankıydı
keçi: çiftliğimizde gördüğümüz keçi idi=keçiydi
şato: yol üstündeki şato idi=şatoydu
and goes...
you can see something like in old turkish songs and also that named türkü's, let's have a look to my türkü lyric:
vaktıyla bir yâr sevdim
saçları sarı idi
in fact, last words refers to: "sarıydı": was yellow
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18 May 2006 Thu 07:15 pm |
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So with consonants?
It was a horse: O bir at idi?
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18 May 2006 Thu 07:26 pm |
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Quoting lacivert: So with consonants?
It was a horse: O bir at idi? |
Could it be o bir attı?
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18 May 2006 Thu 08:31 pm |
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It's easy.
past tense suffixes are as follows:
-dı
-di
-du
-dü
-tı
-ti
-tu
-tü
1. After a vowel always use the "-d" version.
2. After an unvoiced consonant use the "-d" version.
3. Only after a voiced consonant use the "-t" version.
Voiced consonants are : p,ç,t,k,h,s,ş,f (hint "Fıstıkçı Şahap")
Ok, let's summarize 1,2 and 3:
If the last letter before the past tense suffix is "abcdegğıijlmnoöruüvyz" use "-d" version and if it is "pçtkhsşf" use "-t" version.
Remember it is only the last letter that counts for consonant harmony.
gitmek : to go
"git + ti + m" : I went
"git + me + di + m" : I didn't go
On affirmative last letter was voiced consonant, on negative last lette changed.
Now you know when to use t or d versions. But there are four of each. Which one do we use, say for d version?
-dı -di -du -dü
This time after consonant harmony it is "vowel harmony" that takes the stage.
In general :
a is followed by a or ı
e is followed by e or i
ı is followed by a or ı
i is followed by e or i
o is followed by a or u
ö is followed by e or ü
u is followed by a or u
ü is followed by e or ü
If we apply these to past tense:
if the last vowel is a use -dı
if the last vowel is ı use -dı
if the last vowel is e use -di
if the last vowel is i use -di
if the last vowel is o use -du
if the last vowel is u use -du
if the last vowel is ö use -dü
if the last vowel is ü use -dü
Example:
"gitmek"
verb stem is "git"
now you check two things:
1. is the last letter a voiced consonant?
2. what is the last vowel?
Yes, the last letter a voiced consonant and therefore I should use the t version.
The last vowel i and I should use "ti"
So we get "gitti".
example:
okumak > oku
1. is the last letter a voiced consonant? no
2. what is the last vowel? u
>>okudu
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