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1.       Deli Kiz
23 posts
 04 Nov 2012 Sun 11:51 pm

Quote:

senin dudaklarini sormak istiyorum, dilini sormak istiyorum.

To me, the above translates as...

 

I want to ask your lips, I want to ask your language.

 

But it doesn´t make any sense.

Help!!!

2.       insallah
1277 posts
 04 Nov 2012 Sun 11:55 pm

 

Quoting Deli Kiz

 

To me, the above translates as...

 

I want to ask your lips, I want to ask your language.

 

But it doesn´t make any sense.

Help!!!

 

Dil also means tongue.

 

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3.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:43 am

Don´t forget the nose

4.       insallah
1277 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:47 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

Don´t forget the nose

 

you talk to your nose ?

5.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:51 am

 

Quoting insallah

 

 

you talk to your nose ?

 

I respect nose a lot. It is in a higher position than lips and tongue. First I would ask the nose

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6.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:06 am

1)Dudaklarını sormak istiyorum

In this sentence dudaklarını is a definite object(accusative). Sentence means I want to ask about your lips.

2)Dudaklarına sormak istiyorum

In this sentence dudaklarına is indirecet object(dative). Sentence means I want to ask (to) your lips. You don´t use "to" here. But I put it there to explain better.

 

In English if you say "I want to ask your lips." I guess it can mean both of them. Right?

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7.       Deli Kiz
23 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:07 am

Very amusing guys...but please don´t confuse me anymore than is absolutely necessary!! {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

Is it normal, in Turkish, to want to ask the lips and tongue?

 

Don´t you just say..."I want to ask YOU something" ?????

8.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:08 am

He doesn´t want to talk to them. He asks about them. English makes it confusing.

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9.       Deli Kiz
23 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:10 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

1)Dudaklarını sormak istiyorum

In this sentence dudaklarını is a definite object(accusative). Sentence means I want to ask about your lips.

2)Dudaklarına sormak istiyorum

In this sentence dudaklarına is indirecet object(dative). Sentence means I want to ask (to) your lips. You don´t use "to" here. But I put it there to explain better.

 

In English if you say "I want to ask your lips." I guess it can mean both of them. Right?

 

Why would you add "senin" at the beginning of this sentence?

Is it merely for extra emphasis?

10.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:13 am

 

Quoting Deli Kiz

 

 

Why would you add "senin" at the beginning of this sentence?

Is it merely for extra emphasis?

 

Yes. There is no need for it because there is a possesive suffix at the end of dudaklar-ın-ı. This possesive suffix can only adress "you" So there is no need to add "senin".

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11.       Deli Kiz
23 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:16 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

Yes. There is no need for it because there is a possesive suffix at the end of dudaklar-ın-ı. This possesive suffix can only adress "you" So there is no need to add "senin".

 

Thank you very much!! {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

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12.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:15 pm

"sormak" means TO ASK. It also means TO SUCK.

You can figure out the rest...{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

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13.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 04:41 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

"sormak" means TO ASK. It also means TO SUCK.

You can figure out the rest...{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

 Sormak :

sormak (II) -ar
-i halk ağzında
1. -i Dudakları uzatıp soluğu kuvvetle çekerek emmek

TDK

 

sormak / somurmak /

 

Alpha is right   but sormak is used generally middle part of  Anatolia i think.

 

I´ve laughed alot thank you for that

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14.       si++
3785 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 05:17 pm

 

Quoting Umut_Umut

 

 

 Sormak :

sormak (II) -ar
-i halk ağzında
1. -i Dudakları uzatıp soluğu kuvvetle çekerek emmek

TDK

 

sormak / somurmak /

 

Alpha is right   but sormak is used generally middle part of  Anatolia i think.

 

I´ve laughed alot thank you for that

 

It´s actually soğurmak:

<1000 [ETü] sugur- suyu içine çekmek, emmek
1945 [YTü] bir sıvıyı içine çekmek 

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15.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 05:54 pm

The guy wwho wrote "sormak istiyorum" is so ignorant, he actually mixed the words "sormak" and "soğurmak". Though the two words sound similar in daily speech, they are different and he should have used the second one.

Dudaklar soğurulmaz....Limon soğurulur.



Edited (11/5/2012) by AlphaF

16.       si++
3785 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 06:10 pm

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Edited (11/5/2012) by si++
Edited (11/7/2012) by si++

17.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 07:11 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

The guy who wrote the red text above is so blind that he even cannot see an obvious sound change.

I never heard someone said "soğurmak". Instead of it we say "emmek".

 

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18.       Deli Kiz
23 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 10:37 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

"sormak" means TO ASK. It also means TO SUCK.

You can figure out the rest...{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

"Suck" would make more sense! {#emotions_dlg.love}

 

This was said in an ´instant message´ so it is quite possible that mistakes were made.

 

Thank you all for your help and the lively debate!! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

 

19.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 05 Nov 2012 Mon 10:44 pm

 

 

It is just an accent. If you dont speak İstanbul Turkish but an accent, using sormak is true. So in his accent, it is right.



Edited (11/5/2012) by Umut_Umut
Edited (11/5/2012) by Umut_Umut

20.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 06 Nov 2012 Tue 03:13 am

 

Quoting Umut_Umut

 

 

It is just an accent. If you dont speak İstanbul Turkish but an accent, using sormak is true. So in his accent, it is right.

 

Ne diyeyim o zaman? İyi soğurmalar

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