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More on necessity
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27 Jul 2006 Thu 12:53 pm |
Following on from the discussion about full and short infinitive verb forms that are used with lazım - see this thread - I want to explore this further!
Bugün çalışmak lazım - Work is necessary today (for everyone)
Bugün çalışmam lazım - Work is necessary today (for me)
I can see why one would use the first form with a full infinitive as it is a general statement. But why would one ever construct the second sentence? Surely this would be the way to express individual necessity:
Bugün çalışmalıyım
Is there any difference in meaning between these two sentences?
Bugün çalışmam lazım
Bugün çalışmalıyım
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 09:23 pm |
Is nobody able to explain the difference between the above two sentences???
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 09:32 pm |
Quoting bod:
Is there any difference in meaning between these two sentences?
Bugün çalışmam lazım
Bugün çalışmalıyım |
i think 1 is also used for 'i have to work' whereas 2 is 'i must work'
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 09:32 pm |
Bugün çalışmam lazım
Bugün çalışmalıyım
the first is saying it is a must, a neccessity, that you work ,and the second is saying,you ought to should do or you must but not with the same importance ,maybe ,thats how i understand it
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 09:40 pm |
ok bod,let me give it a try
Bugün çalışmam lazım
Bugün çalışmalıyım
As i studied
İt is the difference between
necessity and intentions,
Bugün çalışmalıyım is intention,or hope,or wish,but it is not something you must do accourding to a rule,or something like that
but Bugün çalışmam lazım is necessity, something you MUST do ,like you must work every day or else you won't get paid
İ hope you understand what i ment
Correct me if i am wrong pls
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 10:04 pm |
These are equalent. The first one is a noun sentence and the second one is a verb sentence.
(Benim) Bugün çalışmam / lazım.
Subject / predicate
(Ben) / Bugün / çalışmalıyım.
Subject / indirect complement / predicate
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 10:15 pm |
Quoting erdinc: These are equalent. The first one is a noun sentence and the second one is a verb sentence. |
Are you saying that they have exactly equivalent meaning and that neither is preferred over the other?
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31 Jul 2006 Mon 10:19 pm |
Evet.
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