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1910.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 12:15 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 Where is the head of the welcoming committee?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 He´s a man....probably just started his Christmas shopping

1911.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 02:03 am

 

Quoting lady in red

 He´s a man....probably just started his Christmas shopping

 

Well..

That is not entirely true actually..

I started thinking about it yesterday, but I did do the shopping today 

1912.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 11:37 am

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081223/tuk-creationism-should-be-taught-in-scho-dba1618.html

 

A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools. 

 

I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.

 

 How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists? 

1913.       lessluv
1052 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 07:32 am

There is life in the old boy.... {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 

Paul Weller

 

It is the kind of embrace reserved only for new love.

So Paul Weller´s passion for his 23-year-old backing singer must be particularly galling for his former lover Samantha Stock, whom he left just weeks ago.

The 50-year-old singer moved out of the £2million house in West London that he shared with Miss Stock, 38, after falling for Hannah Andrews, who sings on his latest solo album.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1101117/Paul-Wellers-pavement-passion-The-Jam-singer-finds-new-love--backing-vocalist.html

1914.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 02:09 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081223/tuk-creationism-should-be-taught-in-scho-dba1618.html

 

A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools. 

 

I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.

 

 How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists? 

 

Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.

 

Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this

 

1915.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 02:21 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.

 

Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this

 

We had a similar idea in Poland a few years ago when the Christian party was in power. Nothing like that happened fortunately as they had to call new elections in the middle of their cadency - their ratings were that low lol

1916.       Melek74
1506 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 03:51 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081223/tuk-creationism-should-be-taught-in-scho-dba1618.html

 

A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools. 

 

I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.

 

 How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists? 

 

This is also a problem in the USA and there´s an ongoing debate about this. It is something that is incomprehensible to me. I love the argument of Christopher Hitchens (one of my favorite British imports )who said something to the effect that if they are going to teach creationism in publicly funded schools, then they also should teach evolution in the tax-exempt churches. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 http://www.slate.com/id/2124952/

 

There´s of course more to be said about this, but I´d find it difficult to express my opinion without being offensive to "believers".

1917.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 05:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.

 

Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this

 

 Hey don´t spoil it for all the kiddies...this tradition of lying to your kids have been going on for decades..{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}  Which reminds me years ago when I played fairy my son was getting something out of my cabinet and found some of his teeth. Yes, I saved them.  That was difficult to explain.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  Lie after lie.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1918.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2008 Thu 06:01 am

THE GLADIATORS


by Mauro Scarpati


 


The gladiator was a sort of specialized soldier: there were several categories, depending them on the different uniforms, weapons and skills, so every gladiator was easily recognizable by the public; at the origin of all the gladiators categoriesWe have two opposite kind of soldiers: the Tracian ( from the country in the north of the classic Greece), dressed with a light uniform to be faster than the enemy, skilled in agility and fighting techniques; and the Sannita ( from Sannio, a mountainuos country in the center of Italy ), an heavy uniform soldier, trained to fight defending himself, to receive lot of strokes, being ready to counter-attack with few deadly blows; these two classes were born both in the first century before Christ, when both Sannio and Tracia were roman provinces; and they gave origin to subsequent specializations, everyone with some peculiar features.
To complete the games there were all a series of others character, not only warriors but also…well, you’ll discover reading this article!
So, let’s go and see the most famous gladiator classes! 
  
LIGHT UNIFORM GLADIATORS



THRACIAN  


A large number of thracian gladiators arrived at Rome during the Silla dictatorhip, in the first years of the I century b.C.; these warriors, coming from the homonymous Greek region, had been enlisted as mercenaries in the armies of an african king, Mitridate; defeated by Silla, the imprisoned soldiers were sent in Capua, a little town close to Pompeii, where they were trained to fight in the amphitheaters. During the fights they dressed a light uniform, a little helmet, called machaira, light shoes and a little round shield; such a light uniform allowed them to run around the enemies, faster than them, exploiting at the most their weapon, the parna, a short dagger requiring an extreme ability and mobility to be used. 
In the arena the thracians fought amongst them, or against the Sanniti, soldiers with an heavier uniform, just to have two differents stiles fighting together.
  
REZIARIUS 


The reziarii got their name from the weapon they used: a long net to trap the opponents, klling then him with the fuscina, a trident, their offensive weapon; this technique requires a real ability, and every detail in the reziarius uniform is made to have the better functionality and nimbleness; they got not shield neither helmet and uniform to improve their unforeseeable speed in the fight. The only accessory they used, but for the net and the trident, was the sica, a dagger with which they gave the finishing stroke to their enemies, if the public showed the sadly famous thumbs down.For his highly spectacular fighting technique the reziarius was one of the most popular leading character into the gladiators games. 
  
DIMACHERI  


The two short swords, the machairai, these gladiators emploied gave them their name; in this class there’s no defense at all; without shield nor helmet, the only defensive uniform they had was a sort of leather muff on the forearms, to protect them from the strokes; speed was what they used to disorientate the enemies, making them more vulnerable at their swords.  



HEAVY UNIFORM GLADIATORS  



SANNITA  


The war againsts the Sanniti, in the III century b.C., is considered to be the beginning of the roman expansion in the center of Italy; the Sanniti soldiers became the first gladiators to fight in the roman arenas, and likely, according to some historians, the real origin of the games comes from that population (see in this issue: “Sangue e Arena: an Exibition into the Colosseum” ); unlike the Thracians, they got an heavy uniform, a metal plate to protect the chest, a strenghtened helmet with a grid to cover the eyes, a long shield; their weapons was the gladium, a long sword usefel both to defense and to attack; the Sanniti, as well as the Thracian, the two most popular gladiator classes, got their own supporters: the scrutarii, the Sanniti “hooligans”, and the parmularii, the Thracian’ one. And, as in the modern stadiums, it happened sometimes that the opposite supporters engaged a riot, even more cruel that the one in the arena…too bad, not that much in changed since then!  


MIRMILLIONI  


These gladiators came from the Gallia, the actual French; the name comes from their symbol, a fish ( mirmillio ) they got on the pectorale¸the metal plate they dresses on the chest; their uniform is similar to the Sanniti’s one, but with some differences; they had not the typical sannita griffon carved on the helmet, and the holes in the grids are set in a way that the deadly Reziarius trident tips could not enter; and the reziarius was the classic enemy of the mirmillione  


OPLOMACHOS  


Another classic enemy of the reziarius, the name oplomachos came from two greek words, oplon macvs, literally, “the heavy- uniform fighter”. The sword they used was longer that the Sannita’s one, with a carved hilt and flat, perfect to attack with cutting blows.  


GENERIC GLADIATORS 


The “generics” were the gladiators without a particular skill: they were used to fill up the spectacles, when these lasted for all a day, or even more; and of course, their hire was hardly a tenth of the more famous champions’ one!Anyway, some of the generic games were really popular: the Caesariani, for instance, the imperial family guards; or the Catervarii and Pegmarii fights, when a heap of slave soldiers fought in a sort of army; the amusement here was to see the huggest number of killings…   
 
PROVOCATORES  


The Provocatores ( “the provocatives” ) opened the duels, just provoking the gladiators to engage the fight; the latin word provocare was used, in militar slang, to indicate the light uniform soldiers, the velites, who opened the battles provoking the enemies with screams and insults.  


SESTERZIARII  
One sesterzio was the really cheap hire of this gladiator class; they were mostly veterans of the army, or even not that trained soldiers drove by the necessity in the arena, looking for a not so easy earnings!   


CAESARIANI, or ROSTULATICII 


Caesariani are the “heroes” of the arena: their ability and bravery promoted them as the body-guards of the imperial family; sometimes the crowd, seeing them close to the emperor, claim for them; so they have to come back in the stadium, satisfyng the public’s wishes.  


CATERVARII  


The Catervarii fought in two different groups, made by around 100 hundred soldiers; could you imagine the chaos? The idea was to have a real battle in the arena; so these soldiers, without any skill, fought only to kill the more enemies they could, in a war simulation the Roman enypied a lot! A curiosity: in the roman modern dialect we still use the same latin word, caterva, to say “a lot”!  


ESSEDARII  


The knights as well fought in the arena; the Essedarii drove an essedum, a Gallic war chariot drawn by two horses; after some skirmish, however, the gladiators finished the fight with an infighting with long swords.  


PEGMARII 


Sources don’t explain all about the Pegmarii’s fights; probably a tower was built in the middle of the arena ( the greek word for tower is pegma ); so the match was the simulation of a siege, with a group inside, the defensors, and the other outside, the attackers; so the match didn’t have an end since the death of aal the soldiers of a group; this game was really popualr because it could last for entire days – and you know, Romans loved to see a real war in theie stadium…
  


THE DECADENCE 


During the centuries the cast of the gladiator games knew a lot of other characters; their purpose was mainly to amuse the public, usually ridiculing the games themselves; it became famous the fight amongst dwarfs, or amongst rather old fighters; we can say that when the aristocratics, the women, even an Emperor as Commodo started to fight in the arena, the way of the decadence was opened to the originally ritual gladiator games meaning, a first step in the process leading at the death of the stadium itself.   


PAEGNARIA  


The fight amongst dwarfs were used to fill up the cast since the I century a.C.; they dressed too small uniforms with ridiculous short daggers, not to kill theirselves but just for the public’s amusement.  


NOBILES ( noblemen )  
And finally the noblemen as well wanted to fight in the arena to increase their prestige; in the traditional roman society the war against the enemies was the place to gain the glory, so the simulate aristocratic wars into the arena are another proof of the decadende in the last centuries of the Empire  


FOEMINAE ( women ) 


As for the noblemen, the presence of women in the arena points at the decadence of the roman society; these women fought against the men, winning sometimes; could you imagine 70.000 spectators busting out laughing all together? Well, that’s what the organizers wanted…  


ANDABATI 


The andabati knights fight was a caricature of a regular fight; dressing an helmet with no holes for eyes, they fought blindly, drove by the public’ screams and by the hoffs noise; of course – that’s what I suppose – the amusement was in driving the knights on the wrong way…  
 
We know there were lot of other gladiator classes, but the archaeological and literary sources don’t admit us to understand the differences amongst them; so, to know something more about the gladiators, you’d better wait the next archaeological discovery.



 


 


 http://www.nerone.cc/newslett/gladiato.htm


 


 


 

1919.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2008 Thu 04:34 pm

Icy blast wreaks travel chaos in US
About 500 travellers spent Tuesday night at Chicago´s O´Hare airport [Reuters]

Around 30 US road deaths have been blamed on snow and ice storms which have also left hundreds of travellers stranded at airports on Christmas eve.

On Wednesday, Chicago´s O´Hare International airport, the US´s second busiest terminal, was forced to cancel more than 500 flights after an American Airlines plane skidded off the runway.

No one was injured in the incident and all 54 passengers were put on other flights leaving the same evening.

Treacherous weather conditions grounded or delayed flights across the country, with other major airports in San Francisco, Dallas, Boston, New Jersey and New York all reporting serious delays.

In Seattle, Washington, 18 passengers and seven Alaska Airlines crew members received medical treatment after inhaling fumes that leaked into the cabin during de-icing.

Power cuts

Parts of the US also lost power supply in the storms and multiple car accidents were reported across the country - including a Wisconsin car crash that killed a woman and her seven-month-old child.

The US National Weather Service said the northwest of the country, which has already seen near-record levels of snowfall over the past week, was bracing itself for another storm expected to bring up to half a metre of snow.

Almost 64 million Americans are expected to travel over the holiday period, either by road, air or rail.

Meanwhile, in Canada, meteorologists are predicting the first coast-to-coast white Christmas since 1971.

Holiday travellers were also stranded in Vancouver on Wednesday as Air Canada was forced to cancel short and medium-distance flights out of the city because of snow storms.

Another 10 centimetres of snow fell in Vancouver on Wednesday, after the city had been blasted by snow storms two days earlier

1920.       lady in red
6947 posts
 27 Dec 2008 Sat 01:15 pm

TC chatroom is supporting Turkish characters!!  No idea how long this has been  for as today was the first time I have visited for ages!

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