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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:19 pm

Story of the pictures:
Salee Allawe Iraqi War Victim

Salee Allawe, 9, an Iraqi victim of US air strikes photographed in Greenville, South Carolina where she received medical treatment thanks to Cole Miller and his group No More Victims. They seek to provide medical care to children injured by the US military. She traveled with her father Hussein Allawe and was cared for by local volunteers and treated at the Shriners Hospital. Salle's story is as follows: On November 7, 2006 in Hasswa, Iraq: Salee Allawe, a nine-year-old girl, was playing hopscotch outside her home with her brother, cousin and some friends when US mlitary jets fired three missiles, apparently at passenger vehicles. One missile landed where the children were playing, killing her brother and cousin and taking both of Salee's legs.
here are the pictures:







2.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:24 pm

Nice to see there are people to help with such a tragedy...but my wish is that these people would never have to go thru this in the first place. It just seems like a small consolation.

3.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 14 Feb 2008 Thu 11:43 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Actually there was one more thing:
It was Jordan (Katie Price)
The caption goes like :
Model Katie Price, AKA Jordan, flashes a nipple at her London book launch today but also shows the horrendous scarring left by many many breast operations. The scar is surrounded by horrible stitch marks making her look more like the bride of frankenstein than a glamour puss..

here is the picture:



She is a vile woman - in looks and personality

4.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Feb 2008 Fri 07:32 pm

Another war coming soon?
Robert Fisk
Hezbollah chief threatens Israel
Speaking to the crowds of mourners via a giant video screen, Nasrallah blamed Israel for his death and said its war against the Jewish state was not over.

"Zionists, if you want this sort of open war, then let the whole world hear, so be it!" he declared.



5.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Feb 2008 Fri 08:10 pm

Thanks for the links handsome....I found this as as sidebar on one of the links:

Trafficking: A very modern slavery

"Even once someone has managed to escape the traffickers' trap, British campaigners say authorities are far more concerned about their status as an illegal immigrant, than as a trafficked person.

Penny, for example - repeatedly imprisoned for not having the right paperwork - is convinced the man who trafficked her is still plying his trade, unmolested by the authorities. "

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 12:20 am

I guess, that is how the things spiral again

Blast kills senior Gaza militant
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7247983.stm

A senior militant from the Islamic Jihad movement is among at least seven people killed in an explosion in the Gaza Strip, which injured more than 40.

And some addition to child/ civilan death toll:

The wife and two of Mr Fayed's children were killed in the blast, Palestinian medics said.

==============================
Danish Muhammad cartoon reprinted

Danish newspapers have reprinted one of several caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad which sparked violent protests across the Muslim world in 2005.

They say they wanted to show their commitment to freedom of speech after an alleged plot to kill one of the cartoonists behind the drawings.

7.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 01:08 pm

QUOTE OF THE DAY:-

"We don't have much. What we have in excess is women. So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands."

MAO ZEDONG
China's former leader, attempting to barter the country's women during trade discussions with the U.S. in 1973, according to a document released Thursday by the State Department's historian office.

8.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 02:32 pm

Kosova is being independent and known by EU...

So what about KKTC?

9.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 02:50 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Kosova is being independent and known by EU...
So what about KKTC?


The whole cypus issue is still a huge mystry to me.
I sincerely believe Turkey had right to invade in 1974 and this right came from the Treaty of Guarantee.
But somehow Turkey could not persuade anybody..

10.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 07:18 pm

femme fatals small cat

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11.       Leelu
1746 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 11:41 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

femme fatals small cat


did it look something like this?

FF small cat

12.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 17 Feb 2008 Sun 11:44 pm

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

femme fatals small cat


did it look something like this?

FF small cat


lol lol
sometimes she looks like that lol

but sui thinks of that huge fat amerikan Cat lol

13.       Leelu
1746 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:15 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

femme fatals small cat


did it look something like this?

FF small cat


lol lol
sometimes she looks like that lol

but sui thinks of that huge fat amerikan Cat lol



Must be more like this then!!!

14.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:28 am

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

femme fatals small cat


did it look something like this?

FF small cat


lol lol
sometimes she looks like that lol

but sui thinks of that huge fat amerikan Cat lol



Must be more like this then!!!



that must be her sister lol

have you seen my pics?

15.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:29 am

what my eye caught today and yesterday.

we suddenly do not have the amerikan part of fat ass gang!

have dudus kidnapped lis, teas and girleegirl?

16.       Leelu
1746 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:31 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

what my eye caught today and yesterday.

we suddenly do not have the amerikan part of fat ass gang!

have dudus kidnapped lis, teas and girleegirl?

Maybe they got caught up in the TC bermuda triangle

17.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:34 am

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting femme_fatal:

what my eye caught today and yesterday.

we suddenly do not have the amerikan part of fat ass gang!

have dudus kidnapped lis, teas and girleegirl?

Maybe they got caught up in the TC bermuda triangle


No kidnapping here. I have the flu and just couldn't get up off my giagantic fat ass too much this weekend.

18.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:37 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting femme_fatal:

what my eye caught today and yesterday.

we suddenly do not have the amerikan part of fat ass gang!

have dudus kidnapped lis, teas and girleegirl?

Maybe they got caught up in the TC bermuda triangle


No kidnapping here. I have the flu and just couldn't get up off my giagantic fat ass too much this weekend.



You bed lazy girl

19.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:42 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting femme_fatal:

what my eye caught today and yesterday.

we suddenly do not have the amerikan part of fat ass gang!

have dudus kidnapped lis, teas and girleegirl?

Maybe they got caught up in the TC bermuda triangle


No kidnapping here. I have the flu and just couldn't get up off my giagantic fat ass too much this weekend.


well, hope the flu wont affect on your fat ass!

20.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:42 am

I have it all figured out now...if I quit going to work I will not be exposed to all the sickness that is spread by my co-workers and will be healthy enough to stay in TC!! God I am brilliant!!!

21.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 18 Feb 2008 Mon 12:43 am

Quoting femme_fatal:


well, hope the flu wont affect on your fat ass!


Oh no! It is far too fat to let a few days of not eating have any impact!

22.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 10:53 am

wow..Finally, Fidel Castro leaves the office.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm

23.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 12:14 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

wow..Finally, Fidel Castro leaves the office.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm



It is very sad I don't think Cuba will ever be the same again. Castro was a good leader and proved that communism CAN work in the right envionment - it was a great tribute to Che Guavara. I give it 5 years before we see it corrupted by the US again - drugs, prostitution, McDonalds on every corner

24.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 12:21 pm

Please tell me you were being sarcastic here Aenigma...

25.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 12:29 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

wow..Finally, Fidel Castro leaves the office.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm



It is very sad I don't think Cuba will ever be the same again. Castro was a good leader and proved that communism CAN work in the right envionment - it was a great tribute to Che Guavara. I give it 5 years before we see it corrupted by the US again - drugs, prostitution, McDonalds on every corner


I agree..I am quite sad too.
He was a great leader.
He showed the entire world what a 'real independence for a country' might be.

26.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 01:01 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Please tell me you were being sarcastic here Aenigma...



Not at all. I think of Cuba as my second home and know that the majority of Cubans have been very happy living under Castro's rule. They have 98% literacy and a health care system that is one of the best in the world. They are also one of the leading manufacturers of pharmaceuticals. While their economy is by no means perfect in recent years, it is vastly better for the average Cuban than under it's previous regime. Why are you so shocked?

27.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:10 pm

I am shocked because, having been brought up in a communistic country, I would never believe somebody being astonished by that system. You mentioned a great tribute to CheGuevara. If it is your policy to praise mass murderers, slaughterers of children and women, a person glorifying hate, a person responsible for numerous people being tortured. In a book by Humberto Fontova "Fidel; Hollywood´s Favorite Tyrant" El Commendante is depicted as a coward and a baby killer. If he's one of your role-models then I'm already scared of you! I know it's kind of trendy to wear Che Guevara t-shirts and thinking he was a great revolutionary. Right. So was Stalin and Hitler.

A land of welfare in Cuba? Sure. First of all, the health policy. Do you know how they dealt with HIV? Then enforced compulsory tests and imprisoned/put to death those tested positive. Now the Cubans are healthy As for being happy with the regime...well..nobody in communistic countries dared to claim otherwise. Even though the Cubans are victims of a touristic apertheid, they don't complain. And neither do the tourists - they see great beaches, happy waiters, great food and think...Geezz..is that heaven or what? Behind the touristic areas, the world suddenly stops being so beautiful. But, hey! Who cares? A holiday in Cuba is wonderful so Cuba must be wonderful too!

Aenigma, spend some time living in a world which deprives you of your basic rights like the freedom of speech and then praise it.

28.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:29 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:


Some facts about health welfare from cuba:

HEALTHCARE, CUBAN

Life expectancy at birth: male 75.11; female: 79.85 (US: 75.02; 80.82).
Infant mortality rate: 6.22 deaths per 1,000 live births (US: 6.43).
HIV/Aids adult prevalence rate: < 0.1 per cent (US: 0.6 per cent).
HIV/Aids deaths per 100,000 per year: 4.4 (US: 5.4).
Physicians per 1,000 population: 5.91 (US: 2.56).
Hospital beds per 10,000 population: 49 (US: 33).
Per capita GDP: $3,649 (US: $39,901) .
========
I think above shows how Castro has been successful about the healthcare.
Note that they have ACHIEVED those results with "Per capita GDP: $3,649"

29.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:35 pm

Dear Daydreamer. Castro always refused to call himself a communist - just Cubanist. He did not ban religion or impose many of the restrictions that other communist countries enforced.

Perhaps they should return to the US Mafia controlled Cuba - where apartheid was stricter than South Africa and rich Americans raped it's resources.

PS Dont assume to know me, or my knowledge of Cuba (which was not based on chatting to a few waiters whilst lazing on the beach).

30.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:37 pm

Fantastic! I then believe the whole world should take measures to keep up with Fidel's policy. Why hasn't it happened yet? Could it be that great minds are never appreciated?

I wish we never brought down communism. It must have been a perfect system but the stupid Poles, Czechosklovakians, Yugoslavians and other just couldn't take it...You know, I remember that the health care in Poland during communism was great. Free of charge, unlimited coverage. People were earning quite a lot, housing was state-credited so basically you would get a flat for free. And yet people didn't like it...Maybe they weren't as smart as the Brits and Americans who gave us to uncle Stalin in Yalta. Know what? You could have kept that goodness for yourselves. Then you'd have a life of dreams as it is in Cuba

31.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:41 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



PS Dont assume to know me, or my knowledge of Cuba (which was not based on chatting to a few waiters whilst lazing on the beach).



I never said your opinions were based on chatting to waiters, I gave it as a general example of people's idea about Cuba. Actually, you might even be a Cuban refugee - I would have no knowledge about it. I am nevertheless shocked that an educated person as yourself supports mass murderers and calls dictators saviours.

Regards

32.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:47 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Fantastic! I then believe the whole world should take measures to keep up with Fidel's policy.


Haha
I would agree with above:
Some more facts about cuba:

Cuba’s National Institute for Economic Research (INIE) and the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) makes an extremely favourable assessment of social and economic development in Cuba in recent years.


Until 1989, Cuba’s social policy led to very significant advances in education, health care, social security, employment and distribution. The collapse of the socialist bloc, as well as other internal and external factors, caused a severe crisis that peaked in 1993, dealing a blow to almost all the country’s social indicators


Cuba is an ‘interesting case’ of ‘growth with justice, as it has dealt simultaneously with economic and social problems’, using an integral development model which, over the past four decades, has increased social welfare and equity, despite the collapse of the socialist bloc, the underlying crisis and external restrictions


Cuban model are of great use in the international consideration of the opportunities for achieving productive development with equity’

the link is here:
http://www.realinstitutoelcano.org/analisis/881.asp

33.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 04:49 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I am nevertheless shocked that an educated person as yourself supports mass murderers and calls dictators saviours.

Regards



Please could you enlighten me about the "mass murder". Are you talking about the Bay of Pigs?

Also - do you think the apartheid US rule was better?

34.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 05:06 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



Please could you enlighten me about the "mass murder". Are you talking about the Bay of Pigs?



With pleasure, in mid '60s Che and Fidel were setting up concentration camps for anti-socialists and juvenile delinquents, needles to say, homosexuals and artists were among them too - the whole unnecessary element of society (and they weren't incarcerated in order to be treated). The death rate there was about 50%

A rough estimate accredits Che Guevara with 700 to 1700 people slaughtered either directly or at his command. "Hate is an element of fight (...) transcends natural human limits (...)and turns him into a ruthless killing machine.

In 1965 he was fighting against imperialism in Kenia and Tanzania and again, his trail was one of blood and terror. Finally Bolivian peasants gave him away to the police and they ended the scruffy life of this monster.

That's for mass murders - concentration camps are enough for Fidel, but Che deserved his own piece

Quote:

Also - do you think the apartheid US rule was better?



I don't think whatever Americans do is better. If they weren't so influential, their interference with the world's politics would be considered tyranny and they'd be judged for crimes against humanity as well.

35.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 05:24 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting thehandsom:

wow..Finally, Fidel Castro leaves the office.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm



It is very sad I don't think Cuba will ever be the same again. Castro was a good leader and proved that communism CAN work in the right envionment - it was a great tribute to Che Guavara. I give it 5 years before we see it corrupted by the US again - drugs, prostitution, McDonalds on every corner



In some respects I agree but others I don't. Yes, as schooling and medical systems are second to none. But Cuba is a country bathed in poverty where a waiter can earn as much money as a physician. They still have to queue for basic food and still have ration books. The buidings are crumbling and drugs are rife as is prostitution. Where the poor hunt street cats for a decent meal.

Cuba has a repressive regime, Cuban's can not leave their country unless they are on tour with music or acrobat or part of a circus shows. The tour guides are monitored for what they say to their guests. Sadly many children of the rich and successful were sent to Florida when Castor came to power in 1959, never to see their families again.

But also, I do not agree that America should get their hands on Cuba, but a democratic government now be sought, not replace Castro with Rafael. But we all know why Cuba is so interesting to America - it has oil, suprisingly enough.

One word on Che, he did a lot of good work for lepers and was one of the first Doctors to actually touch a leper.

36.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 05:25 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:


A rough estimate accredits Che Guevara with 700 to 1700 people slaughtered either directly or at his command. "Hate is an element of fight (...) transcends natural human limits (...)and turns him into a ruthless killing machine.

In 1965 he was fighting against imperialism in Kenia and Tanzania and again, his trail was one of blood and terror. Finally Bolivian peasants gave him away to the police and they ended the scruffy life of this monster.

That's for mass murders - concentration camps are enough for Fidel, but Che deserved his own piece


I promise to come back on this topic daydreamer..

37.       teaschip
3870 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 05:31 pm

Just simply ask a cuban amercian what they think of Castro..unlike Cubans who have no free press or polling who knows how they really feel about him.

38.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 07:16 pm

Hehe I will come back to this subject too! Unfortunately I will be offline for a week or so (to let you all catch up with my number of posts ).

However, it is always interesting to see how people can have two completely opposite opinions on the same subject. I love it

39.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 07:46 pm

Come on! You can't leave me in the middle of an argument for a whole week ya! What if Daydreamer the Nice will renew her Dead Poets' Society membership?

40.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 07:51 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Come on! You can't leave me in the middle of an argument for a whole week ya! What if Daydreamer the Nice will renew her Dead Poets' Society membership?



Awwwww dont make me argue NOW I had a busy day!!

41.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 07:52 pm

Tamam, having a busy day is an excuse. I'll let you regroup your troops and get back to this topic when you're in the mood

42.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 07:54 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Tamam, having a busy day is an excuse. I'll let you regroup your troops and get back to this topic when you're in the mood



Hehehehehehe lol (and maybe check a few of my facts before posting hehehe! )

43.       lalisia
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 07:54 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:


I wish we never brought down communism. It must have been a perfect system but the stupid Yugoslavians and other just couldn't take it...



You may joke on it, but maybe we are really stupid, because in that time, we had a best times of our lives!..and who tells else is telling the lies!

44.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 08:08 pm

Oh yes, apart from the absolutely free education and health system, we had camps in NRD, Bulgaria and Artek (to all those NOT from the Soviet Block, Artek was an international scout camp in USSR). I remember my mom buying me dairy products and baby shoes using a Child's Book of Medical Health, all children wearing the same clothes, standing 3 days in a queue to buy a colour TV or Cuban oranges before Christmas. Yes, those were the days. My father was almost expelled from a Technical University for not wanting to become a Party member (I'm not sure what's it like in English but the Party is Polish United Labour Party - the only one there was). We didn't have to worry about elections - everything was known beforehand and the support for the Party was always 99%...great times...

Maybe it was different in Croatia, but Poland is much better now than before. Sure, the transformation period was and still is tough, but we're getting better and better and I am sure it'll be the same in Croatia, just give it some time

45.       lalisia
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 08:36 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh yes, apart from the absolutely free education and health system, we had camps in NRD, Bulgaria and Artek (to all those NOT from the Soviet Block, Artek was an international scout camp in USSR). I remember my mom buying me dairy products and baby shoes using a Child's Book of Medical Health, all children wearing the same clothes, standing 3 days in a queue to buy a colour TV or Cuban oranges before Christmas. Yes, those were the days. My father was almost expelled from a Technical University for not wanting to become a Party member (I'm not sure what's it like in English but the Party is Polish United Labour Party - the only one there was). We didn't have to worry about elections - everything was known beforehand and the support for the Party was always 99%...great times...

Maybe it was different in Croatia, but Poland is much better now than before. Sure, the transformation period was and still is tough, but we're getting better and better and I am sure it'll be the same in Croatia, just give it some time



Sure it was different in Croatia! I remember when my parents built a house, bought a car..like a very young couple, remember my mom buying me everything I wished,we went to trip every summer, every winter...
Now young couples living in rent apartments, but their earnings(if they have a job) are barely covering rents! And what about overhead expenses, food, clothes...?
Now they have to decide will they buy some food for their children or some clothes...no need to list other.
I am happy now for finding a good job..but big number of my family and friends are not! And if this is transformation period, it last to long, all one generation is living trough it..I only hope my children are not gonna be ones to fell it too.

46.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 08:41 pm

So, don't you think that if it hadn't been for years of ruining your country's economy by the communists, you might be living like your Italian or Greek neighbours? The thing is, communist countries (except for China which has a free market) don't let their economy develop. It seemed better then, but it wouldn't last forever. I'm sure you experienced inflation etc...

47.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 10:56 pm

As I promised to daydreamer

Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".

I first saw his picture whan I was 15 (I think).

(it was with the red background)
And There was a turkish writing underneath something like 'let the death come where ever it comes from .....then we will welcome to death'.
The first thing I remember thinking of him was 'wow what a heroic looking guy'
Later on, when I learnt more about him, there was no doubt in my mind:'He was going to be one my heros'.
And he is a hero to me. Most romantic one of all my heros.
Daydream, you have no idea what you are talking about him.
You just read something about him and that is all..
You should read more about a subject before jumping into ignorant-primitive conclusions..

Anyway
Some passages from 'gergous' George galloway about him:


Ernesto “Che” Guevara Lynch, who was murdered by United States agents under orders from Washington 40 years ago, is the face of global rebellion.

He inspires all the more intensely since he could have lived a prosperous bourgeois life as an Argentine dentist. Instead, and despite asthma, he chose a life of action, a motorcycle diarist, a comandante in a triumphant Cuban revolutionary army, a guerrilla leader in the Congo, a martyr in the mountain gulleys of Bolivia.

By the time Che Guevara met Fidel Castro a year later he was a rebel. After, he was a revolutionary. Guevara had absolutely no military background and signed on with Fidel as the rebel “army’s” doctor. In the mountains of eastern Cuba in the late 1950s he became a military leader and a strategist of revolutionary warfare of the first order. It was an old-fashioned ethos: lead your men (and women) from the front and don’t ask them to do anything you aren’t prepared to do with them.

Those who would traduce Che, Fidel and the Cuban revolutionaries must say what Cuba would be like now if that dictatorship had held on – Haiti, the most hellish place in the Western hemisphere is literally not far from Cuba, but metaphorically in a different universe.

Che, in particular, defies the right-wing stereotype of the ice-cold, cunning revolutionist. He said that ‘the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality.’

Even as Cuba, in the grip of the US’s embargo, looked to the Soviet Union for support, Che was prepared to criticise the bureaucratism he saw in Moscow.

Instead of settling down in Havana, he set out to spread revolution in Congo, where the great Patrice Lumumba had been murdered in a UN-supported coup. Nelson Mandela paid tribute to the Cuban role in Africa’s liberation struggle. ‘On his release from prison he went to Cuba, rather than any other capital in the world, beneath an illumination of Che’s image, Mandela lifted his hands aloft and said: ‘See how far we slaves have come!’‘

Even the coldest of latter-day Cold Warriors must have been moved by the recent story that a Cuban medical team last year saved the sight of Mario Teran, the Bolivian sergeant who executed Che.

Which leaves the liberals, who say that they too, as Che put it, ‘. . . tremble with indignation at every injustice,’

She said she had been there when Guevara had died. She said she was 19 at the time. Then she cast a look around her and said, ‘Look at us. Nothing has changed since then. El Commandante came too soon. We were ignorant and did not understand him… We abandoned him… and here we are just as we were before he came, or maybe even worse.’ “


george galloway about che

And some quotes from Che:

If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.

At the risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love.

I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.

It is not a matter of wishing success to the victim of aggression, but of sharing his fate; one must accompany him to his death or to victory.

Many will call me an adventurer - and that I am, only one of a different sort: one of those who risks his skin to prove his platitudes.

There is no other definition of socialism valid for us than that of the abolition of the exploitation of man by man.

I would rather die standing up, then live life on my knees.
(And That is what he said before he died)
I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.

Daydreams?
is any of your heros can die the way he died?
Well mine did!!

48.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 10:58 pm

Quoting thehandsom:



I have to confess to having a bit of "a thing" about Che. I also have to admit he was damn sexy! lol

(Sorry Adonis )

49.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 11:04 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

As I promised to daydreamer
About El comandate:
Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".

I first saw his picture whan I was 15 (I think).

(it was with the red background)
And There was a turkish writing underneath something like 'let the death come where ever it comes from .....then we will welcome to death'.
The first thing I remember thinking of him was 'wow what a heroic looking guy'
Later on, when I learnt more about him, there was no doubt in my mind:'He was going to be one my heros'.
And he is a hero to me. Most romantic one of all my heros.
Daydream, you have no idea what you are talking about him.
You just read something about him and that is all..
You should read more about a subject before jumping into ignorant-primitive conclusions..

Anyway
Some passages from 'gergous' George galloway about him:


Ernesto “Che” Guevara Lynch, who was murdered by United States agents under orders from Washington 40 years ago, is the face of global rebellion.

He inspires all the more intensely since he could have lived a prosperous bourgeois life as an Argentine dentist. Instead, and despite asthma, he chose a life of action, a motorcycle diarist, a comandante in a triumphant Cuban revolutionary army, a guerrilla leader in the Congo, a martyr in the mountain gulleys of Bolivia.

By the time Che Guevara met Fidel Castro a year later he was a rebel. After, he was a revolutionary. Guevara had absolutely no military background and signed on with Fidel as the rebel “army’s” doctor. In the mountains of eastern Cuba in the late 1950s he became a military leader and a strategist of revolutionary warfare of the first order. It was an old-fashioned ethos: lead your men (and women) from the front and don’t ask them to do anything you aren’t prepared to do with them.

Those who would traduce Che, Fidel and the Cuban revolutionaries must say what Cuba would be like now if that dictatorship had held on – Haiti, the most hellish place in the Western hemisphere is literally not far from Cuba, but metaphorically in a different universe.

Che, in particular, defies the right-wing stereotype of the ice-cold, cunning revolutionist. He said that ‘the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality.’

Even as Cuba, in the grip of the US’s embargo, looked to the Soviet Union for support, Che was prepared to criticise the bureaucratism he saw in Moscow.

Instead of settling down in Havana, he set out to spread revolution in Congo, where the great Patrice Lumumba had been murdered in a UN-supported coup. Nelson Mandela paid tribute to the Cuban role in Africa’s liberation struggle. ‘On his release from prison he went to Cuba, rather than any other capital in the world, beneath an illumination of Che’s image, Mandela lifted his hands aloft and said: ‘See how far we slaves have come!’‘

Even the coldest of latter-day Cold Warriors must have been moved by the recent story that a Cuban medical team last year saved the sight of Mario Teran, the Bolivian sergeant who executed Che.

Which leaves the liberals, who say that they too, as Che put it, ‘. . . tremble with indignation at every injustice,’

She said she had been there when Guevara had died. She said she was 19 at the time. Then she cast a look around her and said, ‘Look at us. Nothing has changed since then. El Commandante came too soon. We were ignorant and did not understand him… We abandoned him… and here we are just as we were before he came, or maybe even worse.’ “


george galloway about che

And some quotes from Che:

If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.

At the risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love.

I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.

It is not a matter of wishing success to the victim of aggression, but of sharing his fate; one must accompany him to his death or to victory.

Many will call me an adventurer - and that I am, only one of a different sort: one of those who risks his skin to prove his platitudes.

There is no other definition of socialism valid for us than that of the abolition of the exploitation of man by man.

I would rather die standing up, then live life on my knees.
(And That is what he said before he died)
I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.

Daydreams?
is any of your heros can die the way he died?
Well mine did!!



Sorry, I covered this wonderful post, so re-posted Would recommend anyone interested to watch The Motorcycle Diaries - beautiful film.

50.       lalisia
0 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 11:10 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

So, don't you think that if it hadn't been for years of ruining your country's economy by the communists, you might be living like your Italian or Greek neighbours? The thing is, communist countries (except for China which has a free market) don't let their economy develop. It seemed better then, but it wouldn't last forever. I'm sure you experienced inflation etc...


Sure it was inflation, we are not in paradise, but it lasted less than this transformation period. Anyway...sometimes I'm a bit nostalgic.And about now what ever we call it, hope it's gonna pass soon.

51.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 19 Feb 2008 Tue 11:49 pm

Finally, Dr. Treatment has arrived!!!

52.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:49 am

Quoting thehandsom:

As I promised to daydreamer

Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".



Thehandsom, feel free to admire whoever you want, but he is as much of a hero as Adolf Hitler is. There are worldwide organizations praising the latter although he hasn't become as commercialised a symbol as Che Guevara did. I recall a saying that even killing one person shows there's something wrong with you. If you think the pool of blood Che Guevara is responsible of still makes him your romantic (sic!) hero - I'm speechless. I have read his biography so it's not really that I know nothing about him. Here's something I found online - a bit lengthy but being such a fan, you may want to give it some time:

"No man is without some redeeming qualities. In the case of Che Guevara, those qualities may help us to measure the gulf that separates reality from myth. His honesty (well, partial honesty) meant that he left written testimony of his cruelties, including the really ugly, though not the ugliest, stuff. His courage—what Castro described as “his way, in every difficult and dangerous moment, of doing the most difficult and dangerous thing”—meant that he did not live to take full responsibility for Cuba’s hell. Myth can tell you as much about an era as truth. And so it is that thanks to Che’s own testimonials to his thoughts and his deeds, and thanks also to his premature departure, we may know exactly how deluded so many of our contemporaries are about so much.

Guevara might have been enamored of his own death, but he was much more enamored of other people’s deaths. In April 1967, speaking from experience, he summed up his homicidal idea of justice in his “Message to the Tricontinental”: “hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.” His earlier writings are also peppered with this rhetorical and ideological violence. Although his former girlfriend Chichina Ferreyra doubts that the original version of the diaries of his motorcycle trip contains the observation that “I feel my nostrils dilate savoring the acrid smell of gunpowder and blood of the enemy,” Guevara did share with Granado at that very young age this exclamation: “Revolution without firing a shot? You’re crazy.” At other times the young bohemian seemed unable to distinguish between the levity of death as a spectacle and the tragedy of a revolution’s victims. In a letter to his mother in 1954, written in Guatemala, where he witnessed the overthrow of the revolutionary government of Jacobo Arbenz, he wrote: “It was all a lot of fun, what with the bombs, speeches, and other distractions to break the monotony I was living in.”

Guevara’s disposition when he traveled with Castro from Mexico to Cuba aboard the Granma is captured in a phrase in a letter to his wife that he penned on January 28, 1957, not long after disembarking, which was published in her book Ernesto: A Memoir of Che Guevara in Sierra Maestra: “Here in the Cuban jungle, alive and bloodthirsty.” This mentality had been reinforced by his conviction that Arbenz had lost power because he had failed to execute his potential enemies. An earlier letter to his former girlfriend Tita Infante had observed that “if there had been some executions, the government would have maintained the capacity to return the blows.” It is hardly a surprise that during the armed struggle against Batista, and then after the triumphant entry into Havana, Guevara murdered or oversaw the executions in summary trials of scores of people—proven enemies, suspected enemies, and those who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In January 1957, as his diary from the Sierra Maestra indicates, Guevara shot Eutimio Guerra because he suspected him of passing on information: “I ended the problem with a .32 caliber pistol, in the right side of his brain.... His belongings were now mine.” Later he shot Aristidio, a peasant who expressed the desire to leave whenever the rebels moved on. While he wondered whether this particular victim “was really guilty enough to deserve death,” he had no qualms about ordering the death of Echevarría, a brother of one of his comrades, because of unspecified crimes: “He had to pay the price.” At other times he would simulate executions without carrying them out, as a method of psychological torture.

Luis Guardia and Pedro Corzo, two researchers in Florida who are working on a documentary about Guevara, have obtained the testimony of Jaime Costa Vázquez, a former commander in the revolutionary army known as “El Catalán,” who maintains that many of the executions attributed to Ramiro Valdés, a future interior minister of Cuba, were Guevara’s direct responsibility, because Valdés was under his orders in the mountains. “If in doubt, kill him” were Che’s instructions. On the eve of victory, according to Costa, Che ordered the execution of a couple dozen people in Santa Clara, in central Cuba, where his column had gone as part of a final assault on the island. Some of them were shot in a hotel, as Marcelo Fernándes-Zayas, another former revolutionary who later became a journalist, has written—adding that among those executed, known as casquitos, were peasants who had joined the army simply to escape unemployment.


But the “cold-blooded killing machine” did not show the full extent of his rigor until, immediately after the collapse of the Batista regime, Castro put him in charge of La Cabaña prison. (Castro had a clinically good eye for picking the right person to guard the revolution against infection.) San Carlos de La Cabaña was a stone fortress used to defend Havana against English pirates in the eighteenth century; later it became a military barracks. In a manner chillingly reminiscent of Lavrenti Beria, Guevara presided during the first half of 1959 over one of the darkest periods of the revolution. José Vilasuso, a lawyer and a professor at Universidad Interamericana de Bayamón in Puerto Rico, who belonged to the body in charge of the summary judicial process at La Cabaña, told me recently that

Che was in charge of the Comisión Depuradora. The process followed the law of the Sierra: there was a military court and Che’s guidelines to us were that we should act with conviction, meaning that they were all murderers and the revolutionary way to proceed was to be implacable. My direct superior was Miguel Duque Estrada. My duty was to legalize the files before they were sent on to the Ministry. Executions took place from Monday to Friday, in the middle of the night, just after the sentence was given and automatically confirmed by the appellate body. On the most gruesome night I remember, seven men were executed.

Javier Arzuaga, the Basque chaplain who gave comfort to those sentenced to die and personally witnessed dozens of executions, spoke to me recently from his home in Puerto Rico. A former Catholic priest, now seventy-five, who describes himself as “closer to Leonardo Boff and Liberation Theology than to the former Cardinal Ratzinger,” he recalls that

there were about eight hundred prisoners in a space fit for no more than three hundred: former Batista military and police personnel, some journalists, a few businessmen and merchants. The revolutionary tribunal was made of militiamen. Che Guevara presided over the appellate court. He never overturned a sentence. I would visit those on death row at the galera de la muerte. A rumor went around that I hypnotized prisoners because many remained calm, so Che ordered that I be present at the executions. After I left in May, they executed many more, but I personally witnessed fifty-five executions. There was an American, Herman Marks, apparently a former convict. We called him “the butcher” because he enjoyed giving the order to shoot. I pleaded many times with Che on behalf of prisoners. I remember especially the case of Ariel Lima, a young boy. Che did not budge. Nor did Fidel, whom I visited. I became so traumatized that at the end of May 1959 I was ordered to leave the parish of Casa Blanca, where La Cabaña was located and where I had held Mass for three years. I went to Mexico for treatment. The day I left, Che told me we had both tried to bring one another to each other’s side and had failed. His last words were: “When we take our masks off, we will be enemies.”

How many people were killed at La Cabaña? Pedro Corzo offers a figure of some two hundred, similar to that given by Armando Lago, a retired economics professor who has compiled a list of 179 names as part of an eight-year study on executions in Cuba. Vilasuso told me that four hundred people were executed between January and the end of June in 1959 (at which point Che ceased to be in charge of La Cabaña). Secret cables sent by the American Embassy in Havana to the State Department in Washington spoke of “over 500.” According to Jorge Castañeda, one of Guevara’s biographers, a Basque Catholic sympathetic to the revolution, the late Father Iñaki de Aspiazú, spoke of seven hundred victims. Félix Rodríguez, a CIA agent who was part of the team in charge of the hunt for Guevara in Bolivia, told me that he confronted Che after his capture about “the two thousand or so” executions for which he was responsible during his lifetime. “He said they were all CIA agents and did not address the figure,” Rodríguez recalls. The higher figures may include executions that took place in the months after Che ceased to be in charge of the prison.

Which brings us back to Carlos Santana and his chic Che gear. In an open letter published in El Nuevo Herald on March 31 of this year, the great jazz musician Paquito D’Rivera castigated Santana for his costume at the Oscars, and added: “One of those Cubans [at La Cabaña] was my cousin Bebo, who was imprisoned there precisely for being a Christian. He recounts to me with infinite bitterness how he could hear from his cell in the early hours of dawn the executions, without trial or process of law, of the many who died shouting, ‘Long live Christ the King!’”


Che’s lust for power had other ways of expressing itself besides murder. The contradiction between his passion for travel—a protest of sorts against the constraints of the nation-State—and his impulse to become himself an enslaving state over others is poignant. In writing about Pedro Valdivia, the conquistador of Chile, Guevara reflected: “He belonged to that special class of men the species produces every so often, in whom a craving for limitless power is so extreme that any suffering to achieve it seems natural.” He might have been describing himself. At every stage of his adult life, his megalomania manifested itself in the predatory urge to take over other people’s lives and property, and to abolish their free will.

In 1958, after taking the city of Sancti Spiritus, Guevara unsuccessfully tried to impose a kind of sharia, regulating relations between men and women, the use of alcohol, and informal gambling—a puritanism that did not exactly characterize his own way of life. He also ordered his men to rob banks, a decision that he justified in a letter to Enrique Oltuski, a subordinate, in November of that year: “The struggling masses agree to robbing banks because none of them has a penny in them.” This idea of revolution as a license to re-allocate property as he saw fit led the Marxist Puritan to take over the mansion of an emigrant after the triumph of the revolution.

The urge to dispossess others of their property and to claim ownership of others’ territory was central to Guevara’s politics of raw power. In his memoirs, the Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser records that Guevara asked him how many people had left his country because of land reform. When Nasser replied that no one had left, Che countered in anger that the way to measure the depth of change is by the number of people “who feel there is no place for them in the new society.” This predatory instinct reached a pinnacle in 1965, when he started talking, God-like, about the “New Man” that he and his revolution would create.

Che’s obsession with collectivist control led him to collaborate on the formation of the security apparatus that was set up to subjugate six and a half million Cubans. In early 1959, a series of secret meetings took place in Tarará, near Havana, at the mansion to which Che temporarily withdrew to recover from an illness. That is where the top leaders, including Castro, designed the Cuban police state. Ramiro Valdés, Che’s subordinate during the guerrilla war, was put in charge of G-2, a body modeled on the Cheka. Angel Ciutah, a veteran of the Spanish Civil War sent by the Soviets who had been very close to Ramón Mercader, Trotsky’s assassin, and later befriended Che, played a key role in organizing the system, together with Luis Alberto Lavandeira, who had served the boss at La Cabaña. Guevara himself took charge of G-6, the body tasked with the ideological indoctrination of the armed forces. The U.S.-backed Bay of Pigs invasion in April 1961 became the perfect occasion to consolidate the new police state, with the rounding up of tens of thousands of Cubans and a new series of executions. As Guevara himself told the Soviet ambassador Sergei Kudriavtsev, counterrevolutionaries were never “to raise their head again.”


“Counterrevolutionary” is the term that was applied to anyone who departed from dogma. It was the communist synonym for “heretic.” Concentration camps were one form in which dogmatic power was employed to suppress dissent. History attributes to the Spanish general Valeriano Weyler, the captain-general of Cuba at the end of the nineteenth century, the first use of the word “concentration” to describe the policy of surrounding masses of potential opponents—in his case, supporters of the Cuban independence movement—with barbed wire and fences. How fitting that Cuba’s revolutionaries more than half a century later were to take up this indigenous tradition. In the beginning, the revolution mobilized volunteers to build schools and to work in ports, plantations, and factories—all exquisite photo-ops for Che the stevedore, Che the cane-cutter, Che the clothmaker. It was not long before volunteer work became a little less voluntary: the first forced labor camp, Guanahacabibes, was set up in western Cuba at the end of 1960. This is how Che explained the function performed by this method of confinement: “[We] only send to Guanahacabibes those doubtful cases where we are not sure people should go to jail ... people who have committed crimes against revolutionary morals, to a lesser or greater degree.... It is hard labor, not brute labor, rather the working conditions there are hard.”

This camp was the precursor to the eventual systematic confinement, starting in 1965 in the province of Camagüey, of dissidents, homosexuals, AIDS victims, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such scum, under the banner of Unidades Militares de Ayuda a la Producción, or Military Units to Help Production. Herded into buses and trucks, the “unfit” would be transported at gunpoint into concentration camps organized on the Guanahacabibes mold. Some would never return; others would be raped, beaten, or mutilated; and most would be traumatized for life, as Néstor Almendros’s wrenching documentary Improper Conduct showed the world a couple of decades ago.


So Time magazine may have been less than accurate in August 1960 when it described the revolution’s division of labor with a cover story featuring Che Guevara as the “brain” and Fidel Castro as the “heart” and Raúl Castro as the “fist.” But the perception reflected Guevara’s crucial role in turning Cuba into a bastion of totalitarianism. Che was a somewhat unlikely candidate for ideological purity, given his bohemian spirit, but during the years of training in Mexico and in the ensuing period of armed struggle in Cuba he emerged as the communist ideologue infatuated with the Soviet Union, much to the discomfort of Castro and others who were essentially opportunists using whatever means were necessary to gain power. When the would-be revolutionaries were arrested in Mexico in 1956, Guevara was the only one who admitted that he was a communist and was studying Russian. (He spoke openly about his relationship with Nikolai Leonov from the Soviet Embassy.) During the armed struggle in Cuba, he forged a strong alliance with the Popular Socialist Party (the island’s Communist Party) and with Carlos Rafael Rodríguez, a key player in the conversion of Castro’s regime to communism.

This fanatical disposition made Che into a linchpin of the “Sovietization” of the revolution that had repeatedly boasted about its independent character. Very soon after the barbudos came to power, Guevara took part in negotiations with Anastas Mikoyan, the Soviet deputy prime minister, who visited Cuba. He was entrusted with the mission of furthering Soviet-Cuban negotiations during a visit to Moscow in late 1960. (It was part of a long trip in which Kim Il Sung’s North Korea was the country that impressed him “the most.”) Guevara’s second trip to Russia, in August 1962, was even more significant, because it sealed the deal to turn Cuba into a Soviet nuclear beachhead. He met Khrushchev in Yalta to finalize details on an operation that had already begun and involved the introduction of forty-two Soviet missiles, half of which were armed with nuclear warheads, as well as launchers and some forty-two thousand soldiers. After pressing his Soviet allies on the danger that the United States might find out what was happening, Guevara obtained assurances that the Soviet navy would intervene—in other words, that Moscow was ready to go to war.

According to Philippe Gavi’s biography of Guevara, the revolutionary had bragged that “this country is willing to risk everything in an atomic war of unimaginable destructiveness to defend a principle.” Just after the Cuban missile crisis ended—with Khrushchev reneging on the promise made in Yalta and negotiating a deal with the United States behind Castro’s back that included the removal of American missiles from Turkey—Guevara told a British communist daily: “If the rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them against the very heart of the United States, including New York, in our defense against aggression.” And a couple of years later, at the United Nations, he was true to form: “As Marxists we have maintained that peaceful coexistence among nations does not include coexistence between exploiters and the exploited.”

Guevara distanced himself from the Soviet Union in the last years of his life. He did so for the wrong reasons, blaming Moscow for being too soft ideologically and diplomatically, for making too many concessions—unlike Maoist China, which he came to see as a haven of orthodoxy. In October 1964, a memo written by Oleg Daroussenkov, a Soviet official close to him, quotes Guevara as saying: “We asked the Czechoslovaks for arms; they turned us down. Then we asked the Chinese; they said yes in a few days, and did not even charge us, stating that one does not sell arms to a friend.” In fact, Guevara resented the fact that Moscow was asking other members of the communist bloc, including Cuba, for something in return for its colossal aid and political support. His final attack on Moscow came in Algiers, in February 1965, at an international conference, where he accused the Soviets of adopting the “law of value,” that is, capitalism. His break with the Soviets, in sum, was not a cry for independence. It was an Enver Hoxha–like howl for the total subordination of reality to blind ideological orthodoxy.


The great revolutionary had a chance to put into practice his economic vision—his idea of social justice—as head of the National Bank of Cuba and of the Department of Industry of the National Institute of Agrarian Reform at the end of 1959, and, starting in early 1961, as minister of industry. The period in which Guevara was in charge of most of the Cuban economy saw the near-collapse of sugar production, the failure of industrialization, and the introduction of rationing—all this in what had been one of Latin America’s four most economically successful countries since before the Batista dictatorship.

His stint as head of the National Bank, during which he printed bills signed “Che,” has been summarized by his deputy, Ernesto Betancourt: “[He] was ignorant of the most elementary economic principles.” Guevara’s powers of perception regarding the world economy were famously expressed in 1961, at a hemispheric conference in Uruguay, where he predicted a 10 percent rate of growth for Cuba “without the slightest fear,” and, by 1980, a per capita income greater than that of “the U.S. today.” In fact, by 1997, the thirtieth anniversary of his death, Cubans were dieting on a ration of five pounds of rice and one pound of beans per month; four ounces of meat twice a year; four ounces of soybean paste per week; and four eggs per month.

Land reform took land away from the rich, but gave it to the bureaucrats, not to the peasants. (The decree was written in Che’s house.) In the name of diversification, the cultivated area was reduced and manpower distracted toward other activities. The result was that between 1961 and 1963, the harvest was down by half, to a mere 3.8 million metric tons. Was this sacrifice justified by progress in Cuban industrialization? Unfortunately, Cuba had no raw materials for heavy industry, and, as a consequence of the revolutionary redistribution, it had no hard currency with which to buy them—or even basic goods. By 1961, Guevara was having to give embarrassing explanations to the workers at the office: “Our technical comrades at the companies have made a toothpaste ... which is as good as the previous one; it cleans just the same, though after a while it turns to stone.” By 1963, all hopes of industrializing Cuba were abandoned, and the revolution accepted its role as a colonial provider of sugar to the Soviet bloc in exchange for oil to cover its needs and to re-sell to other countries. For the next three decades, Cuba would survive on a Soviet subsidy of somewhere between $65 billion and $100 billion.


Having failed as a hero of social justice, does Guevara deserve a place in the history books as a genius of guerrilla warfare? His greatest military achievement in the fight against Batista—taking the city of Santa Clara after ambushing a train with heavy reinforcements—is seriously disputed. Numerous testimonies indicate that the commander of the train surrendered in advance, perhaps after taking bribes. (Gutiérrez Menoyo, who led a different guerrilla group in that area, is among those who have decried Cuba’s official account of Guevara’s victory.) Immediately after the triumph of the revolution, Guevara organized guerrilla armies in Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, Panama, and Haiti—all of which were crushed. In 1964, he sent the Argentine revolutionary Jorge Ricardo Masetti to his death by persuading him to mount an attack on his native country from Bolivia, just after representative democracy had been restored to Argentina.

Particularly disastrous was the Congo expedition in 1965. Guevara sided with two rebels—Pierre Mulele in the west and Laurent Kabila in the east—against the ugly Congolese government, which was sustained by the United States as well as by South African and exiled Cuban mercenaries. Mulele had taken over Stanleyville earlier before being driven back. During his reign of terror, as V.S. Naipaul has written, he murdered all the people who could read and all those who wore a tie. As for Guevara’s other ally, Laurent Kabila, he was merely lazy and corrupt at the time; but the world would find out in the 1990s that he, too, was a killing machine. In any event, Guevara spent most of 1965 helping the rebels in the east before fleeing the country ignominiously. Soon afterward, Mobutu came to power and installed a decades-long tyranny. (In Latin American countries too, from Argentina to Peru, Che-inspired revolutions had the practical result of reinforcing brutal militarism for many years.)

In Bolivia, Che was defeated again, and for the last time. He misread the local situation. There had been an agrarian reform years before; the government had respected many of the peasant communities’ institutions; and the army was close to the United States despite its nationalism. “The peasant masses don’t help us at all” was Guevara’s melancholy conclusion in his Bolivian diary. Even worse, Mario Monje, the local communist leader, who had no stomach for guerrilla warfare after having been humiliated at the elections, led Guevara to a vulnerable location in the southeast of the country. The circumstances of Che’s capture at Yuro ravine, soon after meeting the French intellectual Régis Debray and the Argentine painter Ciro Bustos, both of whom were arrested as they left the camp, was, like most of the Bolivian expedition, an amateur’s affair.

Guevara was certainly bold and courageous, and quick at organizing life on a military basis in the territories under his control, but he was no General Giap. His book Guerrilla Warfare teaches that popular forces can beat an army, that it is not necessary to wait for the right conditions because an insurrectional foco (or small group of revolutionaries) can bring them about, and that the fight must primarily take place in the countryside. (In his prescription for guerrilla warfare, he also reserves for women the roles of cooks and nurses.) However, Batista’s army was not an army, but a corrupt bunch of thugs with no motivation and not much organization; and guerrilla focos, with the exception of Nicaragua, all ended up in ashes for the foquistas; and Latin America has turned 70 percent urban in these last four decades. In this regard, too, Che Guevara was a callous fool."

source:





Alvaro Vargas Llosa

53.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:54 am

Oh, and I forgot about an inspiring pic just as you did

54.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:03 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, and I forgot about an inspiring pic just as you did


You are day dreaming..

55.       ciko
784 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:11 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, and I forgot about an inspiring pic just as you did


You are day dreaming..



lol lol +2321

56.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:11 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:

As I promised to daydreamer

Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".



Thehandsom, feel free to admire whoever you want, but he is as much of a hero as Adolf Hitler is. There are worldwide organizations praising the latter although he hasn't become as commercialised a symbol as Che Guevara did. I recall a saying that even killing one person shows there's something wrong with you. If you think the pool of blood Che Guevara is responsible of still makes him your romantic (sic!) hero - I'm speechless. I have read his biography so it's not really that I know nothing about him. Here's something I found online - a bit lengthy but being such a fan, you may want to give it some time:


I will read it later on..
But day dreaming girl, he was not working for a charity..
He was a revolutionist with his Kalashnikov in one hand.
The other hand?
He was carrying a torch and trying to light the fire of freedom as he went along from one country to another.

He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..

57.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:11 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, and I forgot about an inspiring pic just as you did


You are day dreaming..



That's what I do for life. But at least I don't make murderers my heroes, comrade

58.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:12 pm

It's amazing how you can look at one person in such different lights, depending on the "spin". Anyway, he is still my hero!

59.       ciko
784 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:14 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Anyway, he is still my hero!



maybe because you have not suffered from communism in your life

60.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:15 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Anyway, he is still my hero!



maybe because you have not suffered from communism in your life



True - but Cuba can hardly be compared to the USSR

61.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:16 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..



Yeap and glory be to Adolf Hitler who helped Germany overcome a crisis and was driven by ideology. With revolutionaries ideology comes before the worth of a human life so...what did you say? Revolution demands victims? And Stalin? He was a revolutionary as well. Many paid for his ideas. And it's no use to say Che was better than them. Socialism (or national-socialism in case of Hitler's) is represented by unnecessary deaths, and all of the great revolutionaries are guilty as charged. You may lick the blood of their hands and call murder a necessity. It is up to your conscience. I cannot.

62.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:18 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:


He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..



Yeap and glory be to Adolf Hitler who helped Germany overcome a crisis and was driven by ideology. With revolutionaries ideology comes before the worth of a human life so...what did you say? Revolution demands victims? And Stalin? He was a revolutionary as well. Many paid for his ideas. And it's no use to say Che was better than them. Socialism (or national-socialism in case of Hitler's) is represented by unnecessary deaths, and all of the great revolutionaries are guilty as charged. You may lick the blood of their hands and call murder a necessity. It is up to your conscience. I cannot.



You cannot compare Che Guavara to Stalin or Hitler!!!!! lol

63.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:20 pm

Oh, can't I? Right....Hitler and Stalin hardly ever murdered people with their own hands like Che did

64.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:21 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, can't I? Right....Hitler and Stalin hardly ever murdered people with their own hands like Che did



Hahahahaha! No - they murdered thousands with calm orders and from their comfortable houses

65.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:22 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, can't I? Right....Hitler and Stalin hardly ever murdered people with their own hands like Che did



Hahahahaha! No - they murdered thousands with calm orders and from their comfortable houses



Oh so now I see what you love him for so much...he did not make others do the dirty work True, if you want something to be done the right way, you have to do it yourself

66.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:25 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:

As I promised to daydreamer

Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".



Thehandsom, feel free to admire whoever you want, but he is as much of a hero as Adolf Hitler is. There are worldwide organizations praising the latter although he hasn't become as commercialised a symbol as Che Guevara did. I recall a saying that even killing one person shows there's something wrong with you. If you think the pool of blood Che Guevara is responsible of still makes him your romantic (sic!) hero - I'm speechless. I have read his biography so it's not really that I know nothing about him. Here's something I found online - a bit lengthy but being such a fan, you may want to give it some time:


I will read it later on..
But day dreaming girl, he was not working for a charity..
He was a revolutionist with his Kalashnikov in one hand.
The other hand?
He was carrying a torch and trying to light the fire of freedom as he went along from one country to another.

He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..


lol
whats result of his revolution?
was it fruitful?

67.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:27 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:


He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..



Yeap and glory be to Adolf Hitler who helped Germany overcome a crisis and was driven by ideology. With revolutionaries ideology comes before the worth of a human life so...what did you say? Revolution demands victims? And Stalin? He was a revolutionary as well. Many paid for his ideas. And it's no use to say Che was better than them. Socialism (or national-socialism in case of Hitler's) is represented by unnecessary deaths, and all of the great revolutionaries are guilty as charged. You may lick the blood of their hands and call murder a necessity. It is up to your conscience. I cannot.


You have no idea what you are talking about. do you? lol

ps..I always suspected that some eastern block ignorant women would think 'ah, in old days, I could not buy any stockings . because there was not any. so, down with revolutionists. Now we have marks and spencers and I can even buy thongs. long live democracy'
lol

68.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:28 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

It's amazing how you can look at one person in such different lights, depending on the "spin". Anyway, he is still my hero!


oh, no.
cut the crap down, aenigma.

69.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:29 pm

I am interested Daydreamer, do you think that Cuba should have remained as it was? Do you think Haiti is a better example to set in the Caribbean?

There are many false facts "created" about both Che and Castro with good reason. They embarassed the US and have effectively been a country under seige ever since Castro took power. They defeated the US at the Bay of Pigs and the US has never forgiven them for it (the mafia were also a little bit put out ). The CIA have been trying to kill him for years!!!! They hate him with a passion for embarassing them in this way.

Only yesterday I heard someone on the news saying "how could Castro be a good leader when it is known he had millions of dollars! This "fact" was soon corrected and the BBC apologised for their error. They had read this "fact" in Forbes rich list. Forbes is well known to despise Castro and made up these figures in his book! lol

In fact Castro has NO MONEY at all. His children all worked in factories as soon as leaving school, and he lives a modest life. He is not a hyprocrite living in comfort (like leaders of so-called communism).

70.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:31 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Oh, and I forgot about an inspiring pic just as you did


You are day dreaming..



That's what I do for life. But at least I don't make murderers my heroes, comrade



I have seriously enjoyed readibg your discussion about Che and revolutionaries. It was very informative.

But on a lighter note, the discussion made me recall my first thought when I saw the picture femme uploaded of me. I had felt honoured that she would think I had an air of Che about me, now I'm not so sure :-S

71.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:33 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting AEnigma III:

It's amazing how you can look at one person in such different lights, depending on the "spin". Anyway, he is still my hero!


oh, no.
cut the crap down, aenigma.



72.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:35 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


You have no idea what you are talking about. do you? lol

ps..I always suspected that some eastern block ignorant women would think 'ah, in old days, I could not buy any stockings . because there was not any. so, down with revolutionists. Now we have marks and spencers and I can even buy thongs. long live democracy'
lol



I wonder what makes me more ignorant - the fact that I am a woman or that I am from the eastern block? Actually when the communism came down I was 11 years old so buying stockings was not really my problem.

I'm sure that you, being a Turk (I'm guessing so) and a male, have possessed the world's wisdom and by definition have the right to have the only right views. If you think arguments are about calling names - my sincere congratulations. How about me calling you a donkey? Would that help me put across my ideas? Very convincing that would be Unfortunately that's not my way of exchanging thoughts.

So, dear thehandson, grab a gun and follow your god. Don't let ignorant eastern women stand in your way. Those who think otherwise can always be slaughtered, right?

73.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:40 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:


You have no idea what you are talking about. do you? lol

ps..I always suspected that some eastern block ignorant women would think 'ah, in old days, I could not buy any stockings . because there was not any. so, down with revolutionists. Now we have marks and spencers and I can even buy thongs. long live democracy'
lol



I wonder what makes me more ignorant - the fact that I am a woman or that I am from the eastern block? Actually when the communism came down I was 11 years old so buying stockings was not really my problem.

I'm sure that you, being a Turk (I'm guessing so) and a male, have possessed the world's wisdom and by definition have the right to have the only right views. If you think arguments are about calling names - my sincere congratulations. How about me calling you a donkey? Would that help me put across my ideas? Very convincing that would be Unfortunately that's not my way of exchanging thoughts.

So, dear thehandson, grab a gun and follow your god. Don't let ignorant eastern women stand in your way. Those who think otherwise can always be slaughtered, right?


Ok Ok
apologies!!
calling names is not my style anyway.
But I will still insist that 'you have no idea what you are talking about' though..

74.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:41 pm

Reply to my post you bed girl!!!

Quoting AEnigma III:

I am interested Daydreamer, do you think that Cuba should have remained as it was? Do you think Haiti is a better example to set in the Caribbean?

There are many false facts "created" about both Che and Castro with good reason. They embarassed the US and have effectively been a country under seige ever since Castro took power. They defeated the US at the Bay of Pigs and the US has never forgiven them for it (the mafia were also a little bit put out ). The CIA have been trying to kill him for years!!!! They hate him with a passion for embarassing them in this way.

Only yesterday I heard someone on the news saying "how could Castro be a good leader when it is known he had millions of dollars! This "fact" was soon corrected and the BBC apologised for their error. They had read this "fact" in Forbes rich list. Forbes is well known to despise Castro and made up these figures in his book! lol

In fact Castro has NO MONEY at all. His children all worked in factories as soon as leaving school, and he lives a modest life. He is not a hyprocrite living in comfort (like leaders of so-called communism).

75.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:46 pm

OOps..sorry AE, I just missed it. Still, I am afraid you won't like my answer anyway. I cannot tell what I think would have happened if it hadn't been for Fidel. Disappointing as it may be, I am no fortune teller and thus I am unable to speculate what would have happened if, and definitely I am terrible at guessing what would have been better. All I can do is to be critical about the past...

76.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:51 pm

The trouble is you are judging both Castro and Che by US "hype".

Do you know that the US publically DENIED any involvement in the Bay of Pigs? It is only since a timeline was released by the National Security Archives that we know that they sent approximately 1,400 CIA special forces to overthrow Castro? They were so sure of victory that Kennedy even cancelled air strikes. They were, as we know defeated.

77.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:51 pm

Oh, about media distorting the image of Fidel, you have an absolute point there. Media is about manipulation and distortion. But the fact that he lives up to his ideals doesn't mean he has the right to impose his ways on the whole society, does it?

Have you read Margareth Atwood's "The Handsmaid's Tale"? (The film sucks but the book is great) There is a line "there are two kinds of freedom: the freedom of something and the freedom to do something."

Even if we agree that basic needs of Cubans are provided for, they have no freedom. Now we can debate what's important - to have a full medical care or to be able to speak for ourselves. How free are Cubans?

78.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 12:55 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

The trouble is you are judging both Castro and Che by US "hype".

Do you know that the US publically DENIED any involvement in the Bay of Pigs? It is only since a timeline was released by the National Security Archives that we know that they sent approximately 1,400 CIA special forces to overthrow Castro? They were so sure of victory that Kennedy even cancelled air strikes. They were, as we know defeated.



Me the US advocate? Please...I love all the moments when US nosey nose gets stuck in dung It's great to see them taken down a peg or two. Like I said, I cannot be a judge in Cuba vs US case. All I can say is that Cuba's alleged welfare is a lie

79.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:01 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Even if we agree that basic needs of Cubans are provided for, they have no freedom. Now we can debate what's important - to have a full medical care or to be able to speak for ourselves. How free are Cubans?



I am no communist, or supporter of it, but it DOES WORK in Cuba and Cubans are more free than they have ever been in Cuba's history (if we discount the murdered original inhabitants!). They have been African slaves and Spanish aristocrats, then mafia/US controlled with complete segregation (worse than South Africa EVER was). It is not a perfect society, but their standard of living is a damn sight better than the rest of the Caribbean, where only the rich and white enjoy such "freedom".

80.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:04 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:


There are many false facts 'created' about both Che and Castro with good reason. They embarassed the US and have effectively been a country under seige ever since Castro took power. They defeated the US at the Bay of Pigs and the US has never forgiven them for it (the mafia were also a little bit put out ). The CIA have been trying to kill him for years!!!! They hate him with a passion for embarassing them in this way.


actually, dear it would not be a deal for US to crush down little cuba. all in all cuba is not on other side of the earth. but USA allowed cuba to stay as it is. they definelty did their parts to abolish the old goat at request of cuban opposition. but US didnt succeed.
btw, if it was ussr neighboring with a little country that was not socialist it would have been consumated in a second. the whole neighbourhood of ussr was under control of ussr except for japan.

but usa has different politics.

i dont think cuba was enbrassing usa. which way? the way that cubans flee from castro's cuba to usa?

Quoting AEnigma III:



Only yesterday I heard someone on the news saying 'how could Castro be a good leader when it is known he had millions of dollars! This 'fact' was soon corrected and the BBC apologised for their error. They had read this 'fact' in Forbes rich list. Forbes is well known to despise Castro and made up these figures in his book! lol


this is a crap. mass media does it to every politician

Quoting AEnigma III:


In fact Castro has NO MONEY at all. His children all worked in factories as soon as leaving school, and he lives a modest life. He is not a hyprocrite living in comfort (like leaders of so-called communism).


OMG lol
osama ben laden also lives a very modest life

81.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:09 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:


I am no communist, or supporter of it, but it DOES WORK in Cuba and Cubans are more free than they have ever been in Cuba's history (if we discount the murdered original inhabitants!). They have been African slaves and Spanish aristocrats, then mafia/US controlled with complete segregation (worse than South Africa EVER was). It is not a perfect society, but their standard of living is a damn sight better than the rest of the Caribbean, where only the rich and white enjoy such "freedom".



ah, now i understand, you comparing cuba to other carribean world lol

82.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:10 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

blah blah blah



Femme you are unable to be objective when you here the word "communism"

Quoting femme_fatal:

blah blah blah



Agree!

Quoting femme_fatal:

blah blah blah



Bin Ladan? What the hell has he got to do this this!!! You are obsessed you evil borat lol

83.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:15 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



You are right, Femme



Agree!

Quoting AEnigma III:



I want to move to Cuba, since im in love with Castro many years now.



oh, that explains everything now

84.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:16 pm

Quote:

Quoting femme_fatal:

I want to move to Cuba, since im in love with Castro many years now.



oh, that explains everything now



Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

85.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:21 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



I am no communist, or supporter of it, but it DOES WORK in Cuba and Cubans are more free than they have ever been in Cuba's history (if we discount the murdered original inhabitants!). They have been African slaves and Spanish aristocrats, then mafia/US controlled with complete segregation (worse than South Africa EVER was). It is not a perfect society, but their standard of living is a damn sight better than the rest of the Caribbean, where only the rich and white enjoy such "freedom".



Awesome, why then so many people cannot somehow deign to understand how lucky they are and try to make it for the terrible US swimming on rafts? Why is there an underground not willing to gratefully accept Fidel's mercy?

Hey, I have another country on my mind - not a communist country, and much richer than Cuba - The Arab Emirates. People are fed there, have gorgeous cars, good educational system and medical too (my friend worked there for a while so I have first hand news). Well, human rights may be an issue but, does it really matter if your stomach's full? Does it really matter if it's a commie Cuba or an Islamist Emirates? Human rights are secondary to nutritional needs. At least that's what I am reading from your posts.

86.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:22 pm

Offfff I got bored with arguing now Shall we just agree to differ?

87.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:25 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Offfff I got bored with arguing now Shall we just agree to differ?



you better give up and admit that you were walking in a huge mistake for many many years.

88.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:31 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Offfff I got bored with arguing now Shall we just agree to differ?



motion seconded. I have no intention of convincing anybody because:

"My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes." lol

OT AE weren't you supposed to be out for a week?

89.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:40 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

OT AE weren't you supposed to be out for a week?



Well... a week from tomorrow and my internet doesn't seem to be disconnected yet Sorry lol lol lol

90.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 01:47 pm

Great! And I spent half a night getting green thinking about you gone to some hot exotic beach :-S

91.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 02:02 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Daydreamer:

OT AE weren't you supposed to be out for a week?



Well... a week from tomorrow and my internet doesn't seem to be disconnected yet Sorry lol lol lol


great, we are gonna miss now two brits: aenigma and peacetrain!

92.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:30 pm

that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!

this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.

i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.

93.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:33 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!

this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.

i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.



OMG
I guess it doesn't matter showing a poor deformed person as a joke - just so long as they are not wearing scanty clothing.

If she truly wants to avoid stereotypes over body image, then why has she not called this person "beautiful" too, as per her other pic?

94.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:43 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!

this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.

i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.



Here is the thing, Femme your's was totally funny, humorous in a playful way. I find her pic to be offensive..that poor human, whatever happened to them and their disability shouldn't be exploited on a TC Site.

95.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:46 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

their disability shouldn't be exploited on a TC Site.


not only here in TC but also anywhere else!

btw, our former admin is the future doctor?

96.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 05:48 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting teaschip1:

their disability shouldn't be exploited on a TC Site.


not only here in TC but also anywhere else!

btw, our former admin is the future doctor?



Agree, it's just bad taste. Future doctor?

97.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 06:04 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting teaschip1:

their disability shouldn't be exploited on a TC Site.


not only here in TC but also anywhere else!

btw, our former admin is the future doctor?



It was a disgusting thing to do and that person should be ashamed.

I have been fortunate enough to have children of all capabilities in my class. Some with severe and global barriers to learning (learning in the mainstream sense of the word). But these children enrich the lives of others and they DO make contributions to society. Although they may not 'learn' in the conventional sense, they DO learn and it is wonderful to see them blossom.

btw being a doctor doesn't mean one has the moral/ethical high ground http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman .

98.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 07:46 pm

some members definetly should go and see dr treatment! lol

99.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:05 pm

More Test for British citizenship !!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7253933.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7254926.stm

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK should expect a "demonstration of commitment" and the process of becoming a citizen should be "more exacting".

And the big theme is that migrants will need to take extra steps to "earn" citizenship and become fully-paid up members of society.

In future, they will need to spend the next sixt(y) to eight(y) years proving their worth to the UK.

They will have to obey the law and where possible prove they are "active citizens".

Acceptable activities could include proof of voluntary work, of being involved in local groups or the school parent-teacher association. Migrants will need to find referees to vouch for these good deeds.
===
Phew!!!!

100.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:08 pm

I am just so sad ... that this was not in force when thehandsom came to the UK

101.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:11 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

More Test for British citizenship !!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7253933.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7254926.stm

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK should expect a "demonstration of commitment" and the process of becoming a citizen should be "more exacting".

And the big theme is that migrants will need to take extra steps to "earn" citizenship and become fully-paid up members of society.

In future, they will need to spend the next sixt(y) to eight(y) years proving their worth to the UK.

They will have to obey the law and where possible prove they are "active citizens".

Acceptable activities could include proof of voluntary work, of being involved in local groups or the school parent-teacher association. Migrants will need to find referees to vouch for these good deeds.
===
Phew!!!!


why do you still care for citizenship proceedings? lol

102.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:15 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:


why do you still care for citizenship proceedings? lol


I was planing to bring my parents, sisters, brothers, cousins, nieces, nephews, my friends from high school, uni etc..

103.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:20 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal:


why do you still care for citizenship proceedings? lol


I was planing to bring my parents, sisters, brothers, cousins, nieces, nephews, my friends from high school, uni etc..


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol

104.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:45 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!

105.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 09:27 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!


lol
dont worry, you see we both are natural, i love his hair, and he loves my fat ass. thats why he will never leave each other.

106.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 09:32 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:


lol
dont worry, you see we both are natural, i love his hair, and he loves my fat ass. thats why he will never leave each other.


Awww true love conquers all...even grotesque hair all over the place! My heart is warmed by your devotion.

107.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 09:41 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


lol
dont worry, you see we both are natural, i love his hair, and he loves my fat ass. thats why he will never leave each other.


Awww true love conquers all...even grotesque hair all over the place! My heart is warmed by your devotion.



you see, you bed westerners can learn much from easterners.
plus you bed mearikans font have a culture at all, like us historical easterners

108.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 09:42 pm

and plus, you westerners have no morales at all.
all you do is stalk.

109.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 09:56 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

and plus, you westerners have no morales at all.
all you do is stalk.





Oops, you are not mine to stalk...sorry...I will get it together here!

110.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:03 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

and plus, you westerners have no morales at all.
all you do is stalk.



111.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:22 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!

this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.

i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.


Maybe somebody else needs to grow up here, who sadly only points fingers, doesn't refrain from calling offensive names at whim and looks like also disrespects animals.
The picture of foam I uploaded is not making fun of a person with a disability, it's a congenital lack of brain that's incompatible with life. I said that this is foam, and didn't make fun of it. I made fun of foam, not a disability.

112.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:24 pm

Is anyone stalking Cat?


113.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:27 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Is anyone stalking Cat?




DR.TREATMENT

114.       alameda
3499 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:28 pm

Quoting catwoman:

The picture of foam I uploaded is not making fun of a person with a disability, it's a congenital lack of brain that's incompatible with life. I said that this is foam, and didn't make fun of it. I made fun of foam, not a disability.



Everything else aside....it is a curious photo. Is that a newborn? If so, can you give more information? Things like gestation time, how long it lived and other educational information?

The ears are very odd, not really human looking.

I've seen some pretty odd human embryo abnormalities, this looks like one of those.

115.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:32 pm

Here you go Alameda: anencephaly

116.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:41 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Here you go Alameda: anencephaly



The reason I was disgusted with this picture is because my brothers baby was born with this, I knew exactely what the pic was. Perfect from his neck down..was born with half a brain. No rhyme or reason..but obviously didn't live. It was quite shocking..

117.       alameda
3499 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:45 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Here you go Alameda: anencephaly



Very interesting, thank you.

118.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:45 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

The reason I was disgusted with this picture is because my brothers baby was born with this, I knew exactely what the pic was. Perfect from his neck down..was born with half a brain. No rhyme or reason..but obviously didn't live. It was quite shocking..


I'm sorry to hear about it, I'll remove the picture for you.

119.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:52 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting teaschip1:

The reason I was disgusted with this picture is because my brothers baby was born with this, I knew exactely what the pic was. Perfect from his neck down..was born with half a brain. No rhyme or reason..but obviously didn't live. It was quite shocking..


I'm sorry to hear about it, i'll remove the picture for you.



Thanks Cat..Believe me I knew what your intentions were and I always like a good laugh. I just couldn't laugh at this one..since it hit home, that's all.

120.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:58 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Thanks Cat..Believe me I knew what your intentions were and I always like a good laugh. I just couldn't laugh at this one..since it hit home, that's all.


Well, foam uploaded a rat picture and called me a bitch because I didn't like Aenigma's painting... I'm wondering who's the sick one here.
Anyways, thanks for understanding. I'm really sorry about your brother's child, it's extremely sad.

121.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:04 pm

I am just relieved that my "Me in Islanbul during Snowstorm" has been such a success

No complaints so far and 13 people clicked for a closer look lol

122.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:07 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I am just relieved that my "Me in Islanbul during Snowstorm" has been such a success

No complaints so far and 13 people clicked for a closer look lol



Its a wonderful picture....why don't you post the one of you in Istanbul in the Dark? It's my favorite of you. I have it in a frame next to the one of you, femme and me in cooking glass.

123.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:09 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I am just relieved that my "Me in Islanbul during Snowstorm" has been such a success

No complaints so far and 13 people clicked for a closer look lol


Well since you mention it...I am a bit disturbed by the white supremacist undertones of the photo!

124.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:10 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Well since you mention it...I am a bit disturbed by the white supremacist undertones of the photo!



Grrrrrrrrr!

125.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:11 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:



126.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:15 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting girleegirl:

Well since you mention it...I am a bit disturbed by the white supremacist undertones of the photo!



Grrrrrrrrr!


What???

127.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:29 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!


and another 99 fat ass femme in the same house?

128.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:31 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!


and another 99 fat ass femme in the same house?



handsom, I hope your geek job pays well!!

129.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:35 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


handsom, I hope your geek job pays well!!


Uhh, lis...could you slow down on posting today. I am still not feeling well and all this stalking is wearing me out!

130.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:37 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Elisabeth:


handsom, I hope your geek job pays well!!


Uhh, lis...could you slow down on posting today. I am still not feeling well and all this stalking is wearing me out!



I know you stalk me because you love me....so you will just have to keep up.....Hey, does anyone watch Nip/Tuck....there was a stalker story line on it...good stuff!!

131.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 Feb 2008 Thu 01:09 am

Quoting Elisabeth:


I know you stalk me because you love me....so you will just have to keep up.....Hey, does anyone watch Nip/Tuck....there was a stalker story line on it...good stuff!!


Sorry, I missed this one earlier.

132.       admin
758 posts
 21 Feb 2008 Thu 08:37 am

Please let's watch the language in the forums. Writing "f... off" is not more acceptable than writing it openly. If there is a complaint about a user you can send me an e-mail or private message instead of getting into a personal quarrel.

133.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2008 Thu 01:33 pm

IS THIS THE CRAZIEST STAG DO PRANK EVER?
man at race
caption says:
horses belting towards the finishing line when a streaker on his stag do risked life and limb to run out on to the race course to join them, at Moruya racetrack, new South Wales, Australia, on the 16th of February 2008. Jockey Tracy O'Hara was almost sent crashing to the turf when her horse Morcombe took fright as the streaker staggered on to track. O'Hara and her horse were well clear of their rivals 100m from home only to slam into the inside running rail when the bleary-eyed intruder entered the course. Rival horse Bournda See stormed home to finish first past the post. The race was later scrapped and a 31-year-old man was arrested at the track and later issued with a court attendance notice for offensive conduct.


And the finish

134.       lady in red
6947 posts
 21 Feb 2008 Thu 06:19 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

IS THIS THE CRAZIEST STAG DO PRANK EVER?
man at race
caption says:
horses belting towards the finishing line when a streaker on his stag do risked life and limb to run out on to the race course to join them, at Moruya racetrack, new South Wales, Australia, on the 16th of February 2008. Jockey Tracy O'Hara was almost sent crashing to the turf when her horse Morcombe took fright as the streaker staggered on to track. O'Hara and her horse were well clear of their rivals 100m from home only to slam into the inside running rail when the bleary-eyed intruder entered the course. Rival horse Bournda See stormed home to finish first past the post. The race was later scrapped and a 31-year-old man was arrested at the track and later issued with a court attendance notice for offensive conduct.


And the finish



But....did he win??

135.       Leelu
1746 posts
 21 Feb 2008 Thu 10:52 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!


and another 99 fat ass femme in the same house?


3 in 1

136.       lalisia
0 posts
 22 Feb 2008 Fri 07:28 am

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!


and another 99 fat ass femme in the same house?


3 in 1


run away if u can..

137.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Feb 2008 Fri 02:13 pm

Ewereka, the painting sheep .
Meet 'Ewereka', the sheep that paints. Fitted with a special harness while she works Ewereka often needs a little bit of assistance, so Ann helps by holding the canvas from time to time. With frequent stops for more pellets to eat and for more paint to be put on her brush Ewereka has completed many fine works. Her owner Ann has has over 1000 successful sheep paintings in all and she sells them at galleries all over South Africa.







138.       teaschip
3870 posts
 22 Feb 2008 Fri 06:48 pm

I knew elephants could paint but not sheep, how cool.

139.       Leelu
1746 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 01:32 am

Quoting lalisia:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting femme_fatal:


I guess you have them 99? lol
we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats lol


OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!


and another 99 fat ass femme in the same house?


3 in 1


run away if u can..



hahahahahaha ..


140.       Leelu
1746 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 01:33 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Ewereka, the painting sheep .
Meet 'Ewereka', the sheep that paints. Fitted with a special harness while she works Ewereka often needs a little bit of assistance, so Ann helps by holding the canvas from time to time. With frequent stops for more pellets to eat and for more paint to be put on her brush Ewereka has completed many fine works. Her owner Ann has has over 1000 successful sheep paintings in all and she sells them at galleries all over South Africa.









wow how cool ..

oh yeaaaaaa ..






141.       lalisia
0 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 06:51 am

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting thehandsom:

Ewereka, the painting sheep .
Meet 'Ewereka', the sheep that paints. Fitted with a special harness while she works Ewereka often needs a little bit of assistance, so Ann helps by holding the canvas from time to time. With frequent stops for more pellets to eat and for more paint to be put on her brush Ewereka has completed many fine works. Her owner Ann has has over 1000 successful sheep paintings in all and she sells them at galleries all over South Africa.









wow how cool ..

oh yeaaaaaa ..






142.       portokal
2516 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 05:14 pm

HIjab - ban protest in Quebec

143.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 08:17 pm



back and forth bashing. A nice change!

144.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 08:23 pm

Old news article: Washington report on Middle East Affairs

Israel's Failed Assassination
Attempt On US Ambassador

http://www.rense.com/general52/idint.htm

145.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 03:38 pm

TO ADMIN
i would like to ask what happened to those marvelous pictures of Slavica? and those poems she posted? the warmth that was brought by her posts?
how could this happen? i am sure she would not have deleted all those beauties she worked to put up here.

i am sorry to ask in this way, admin, but what is going on?
this site is wonderful, has great and valuable information.
this site is yours, you decide upon it's existence.
this site is a great deal of work.
i did not contribute much to its informative value, yet i am between main contributors. i am ashamed to be... this site may have a top of contributions. most of the contributors may bring contributions upon their knowledge. but what about those beauties for the eye and heart?
do not let the beauties of this site being vanished, please.
it is an act of irresponsibility towards each eye coming to see beauties, each mind interested in knowing what is put up here and the heart of human kind. each breath counts, each thought and each prayer.
it is irresponsible toward the fingers that worked in transmitting knowledge or beauties, the mind that was receptive and gathered this knowledge and the heart that made this come alive.

THANK YOU
PORTOKAL




146.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 03:47 pm

Quoting portokal:

TO ADMIN
i would like to ask what happened to those marvelous pictures of Slavica? and those poems she posted? the warmth that was brought by her posts?
how could this happen? i am sure she would not have deleted all those beauties she worked to put up here.

i am sorry to ask in this way, admin, but what is going on?
this site is wonderful, has great and valuable information.
this site is yours, you decide upon it's existence.
this site is a great deal of work.
i did not contribute much to its informative value, yet i am between main contributors. i am ashamed to be... this site may have a top of contributions. most of the contributors may bring contributions upon their knowledge. but what about those beauties for the eye and heart?
do not let the beauties of this site being vanished, please.
it is an act of irresponsibility towards each eye coming to see beauties, each mind interested in knowing what is put up here and the heart of human kind. each breath counts, each thought and each prayer.
it is irresponsible toward the fingers that worked in transmitting knowledge or beauties, the mind that was receptive and gathered this knowledge and the heart that made this come alive.

THANK YOU
PORTOKAL






i found the pictures.
i apologize for these above, what i said came from the fact that it would be a great loss for all those pictures and posts.

thank you.

147.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 05:34 pm

I'm really very sorry that Slavica has decided to leave the website

148.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 10:08 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I'm really very sorry that Slavica has decided to leave the website



Me too. I'm sorry about that but I'm not surprised at all unfortunately

149.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 10:55 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Me too. I'm sorry about that but I'm not surprised at all unfortunately



Me too..

150.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 10:57 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Me too. I'm sorry about that but I'm not surprised at all unfortunately



Me too..


What is it? do you know something and not telling us?

151.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 11:49 pm

Turkey losing a helicopter in offensive..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7261797.stm

152.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Feb 2008 Mon 07:31 pm

Pervez interviewed in Afghan jail
How he was sentenced to die:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/how-he-was-sentenced-to-die-786832.html

153.       libralady
5152 posts
 25 Feb 2008 Mon 11:17 pm

A dog riding a bike - where else? Japan! (on the news!)
Ride my bycycle!

154.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Feb 2008 Mon 11:34 pm

Quoting libralady:

A dog riding a bike - where else? Japan! (on the news!)
Ride my bycycle!


haha..

155.       lalisia
0 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 09:57 am

"Girl" at school was 39-year-old man

156.       lalisia
0 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 10:06 am

What happened to Femme!?

157.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 04:55 pm

Jesus and pine tree!
I thought these things would happen to muslims only

Caption says:

BENSALEM, PENNSYLVANIA: The image found in the pine trunk. When furniture maker Craig O'Connor started work on his latest piece, he was stunned to discover an image of Jesus in a block of wood that he cut from a pine tree. Craig tried selling the piece of wood on Ebay but only got an offer of $500 USD. He now plans to incorporate the trunk in to a piece of furniture.


158.       portokal
2516 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 05:02 pm

A nightingale. i think it caught my ears though.

159.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 Feb 2008 Tue 09:33 pm

Actually it was yesterday, a rather disturbing documentary about Iranian transexuals, waiting for gender reassignment. As transexuals they could not dress as woman without permission from a government official, and as women they were rejected by their families. The strange thing is that gender reassignment in Iran is second highest in the world after Thailand.

I think the saddest thing was that all of them regretted it. They would rather have stayed transexuals and tried to get away with wearing womens clothes. But transvestites are usually hanged if caught, the same as homosexuals. So the motive to have the operation is high.

One of those interviewed now was on the "game" and to allow sex for money with every "client" she had a temporary marriage for a couple of hours. The most disturbing part was one of the gender reassigned had a boy friend who new about the reassignment and that he was not with a "proper" woman! and her mother wanted them to marry, the only reassigned to remain with and be accepted by the family, only perhaps there appeared to be no father about.

I found the whole programme very sad, and it clearly highlighted the oppression of women (there you are Cat a feminist remark from me!) in Iran and the strong desire by many of the younger generation for change.

160.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 12:14 am

Quoting libralady:


I found the whole programme very sad, and it clearly highlighted the oppression of women (there you are Cat a feminist remark from me!) in Iran and the strong desire by many of the younger generation for change.


161.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 10:31 am

Wine bottles and Turkish pop music video

But RTUK, Turkey's broadcasting watchdog, is working on a draft bill that would ban scenes "encourag[ing]" consumption of alcohol.

Savagely criticised by the secular media, the Prime Minister, Tayyip Erdogan, said: "You print pictures of totally naked women in newspapers against this nation's moral values. Have we interfered with that?"

Hakan Yavuz, author of a book on Turkish Islam, said: "I fear that what we have here is the beginning of a major... change against secular lifestyles, a gradual profound Islamisation of society." He believes the process could prove difficult to stop.
The link:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/europe/wine-bottles-a-step-too-far-for-turkish-pop-music-video-787930.html

162.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 10:36 am

The Turkish invasion could destroy a unified Iraq!!

Iraq is disintegrating faster than ever. The Turkish army invaded the north of the country last week and is still there. Iraqi Kurdistan is becoming like Gaza where Israel can send in its tanks and helicopters at will.

The US, so sensitive to any threat to Iraqi sovereignty from Iran or Syria, has blandly consented to the Turkish attack on the one part of Iraq which was at peace. The Turkish government piously claims that its army is in pursuit of PKK Turkish Kurd guerrillas, but it is unlikely to inflict serious damage on them as they hide in long-prepared bunkers and deep ravines of the Kurdish mountains. What the Turkish incursion is doing is weakening the Kurdistan Regional Government, the autonomous Kurdish zone, the creation of which is one of the few concrete achievements of the US and British invasion of Iraq five years ago.

The link:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-the-turkish-invasion-could-destroy-a-unified-iraq-787830.html

163.       portokal
2516 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 01:52 pm

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UPB2A9HjYas

164.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 04:00 pm

Femme has gone
Dull....dull....dull....

165.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 09:33 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Femme has gone
Dull....dull....dull....


Thanks so much! We love you too canim
btw, I'm pretty sure fem has an email address.

166.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 27 Feb 2008 Wed 09:44 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Femme has gone
Dull....dull....dull....


we missed you Aenigma!!

167.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 11:08 am

Nailing the location of the elusive G spot (but not all women have it!!)
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/scientists-find-the-g-spot-but-not-all-women-have-it-784924.html

Many writers suggested it was a small hypersensitive area of the vagina about three quarters of the way up the anterior wall.

Italian researchers, who used ultrasound scans to explore inside the vaginas of 20 women, say they have found a thickened area of tissue in those who said they had experienced vaginal orgasms – but not in those who had not.

"For the first time it is possible to determine by a simple, rapid and inexpensive method if a woman has a G spot or not," Emmanuele Jannini, from the University of L'Aquila, told New Scientist.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19726444.100-ultrasound-nails-location-of-the-elusive-g-spot.html


And Catherine Townsend thinks she also has a G-spot in her brains!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-788466.html
I suggests, all women should take this ultrasound scan, have the result about where abouts of their g-spots and show it to their partners in advance..

168.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 11:23 am

Quoting thehandsom:


I suggests, all women should take this ultrasound scan, have the result about where abouts of their g-spots and show it to their partners in advance..



Kidding? So that we miss all the fun with their looking for it? Or to let them get away with "It's not my fault you didn't come - your scan shows you have no G-spot"? NO WAY

169.       lady in red
6947 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 11:27 am

Quoting thehandsom:



And Catherine Townsend thinks she also has a G-spot in her brains!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-788466.html[/URL]



ON her brain handsom!!!! ON her brain!!! Slightly different meaning!

170.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 11:57 am

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting thehandsom:



And Catherine Townsend thinks she also has a G-spot in her brains!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-788466.html[/URL]



ON her brain handsom!!!! ON her brain!!! Slightly different meaning!


I am not english you know!!!

171.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 01:46 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:


I suggests, all women should take this ultrasound scan, have the result about where abouts of their g-spots and show it to their partners in advance..



Kidding? So that we miss all the fun with their looking for it? Or to let them get away with "It's not my fault you didn't come - your scan shows you have no G-spot"? NO WAY


I was not kidding at all!!
women should take their scans, enlarge it to A1 size, mark the spot with a red marker , frame it and put it on the wall above the bed!!
(I think marking is quite important here..it should be a big, unambiguous X)
And then you can 'blame' your partner if 'the final destination' was not mutual.. lol

172.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 02:26 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Femme has gone :
Dull....dull....dull....



Thanks so much! We love you too canim .



Ermmm sorry I don't understand :-S

Quoting catwoman:

I'm pretty sure fem has an email address.



I am pretty sure she does, but I was talking about her being deleted from this site

173.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 04:06 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I am pretty sure she does, but I was talking about her being deleted from this site


Oh... I see... lol

174.       lady in red
6947 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 04:52 pm

TOOTH HELPS BLIND MAN SEE!

Blind Irishman sees with the aid of son's tooth in his eye - DUBLIN (AFP) - An Irishman blinded by an explosion two years ago has had his sight restored after doctors inserted his son's tooth in his eye, he said on Wednesday.

Bob McNichol, 57, from County Mayo in the west of the country, lost his sight in a freak accident when red-hot liquid aluminium exploded at a re-cycling business in November 2005. 'I thought that I was going to be blind for the rest of my life,' McNichol told RTE state radio.

After doctors in Ireland said there was nothing more they could do, McNichol heard about a miracle operation called Osteo-Odonto-Keratoprosthesis (OOKP) being performed by Dr Christopher Liu at the Sussex Eye Hospital in Brighton in England. The technique, pioneered in Italy in the 1960s, involves creating a support for an artificial cornea from the patient's own tooth and the surrounding bone.

The procedure used on McNichol involved his son Robert, 23, donating a tooth, its root and part of the jaw. McNichol's right eye socket was rebuilt, part of the tooth inserted and a lens inserted in a hole drilled in the tooth.

The first operation lasted ten hours and the second five hours.

'It is pretty heavygoing McNicholl said. 'There was a 65 percent chance of me getting any sight. 'Now I have enough sight for me to get around and I can watch television. I have come out from complete darkness to be able to do simple things,' McNichol said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080228/ts_afp/irelandbritainhealthoffbeat

175.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 07:32 pm

I like how this thread have developed! and talking of eyes I have my other one lasered tomorrow - so almost perfect vision (except for age related short sightedness) lol

176.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 Feb 2008 Thu 10:03 pm

Quoting libralady:

I like how this thread have developed! and talking of eyes I have my other one lasered tomorrow - so almost perfect vision (except for age related short sightedness) lol



I wish you good luck, hope you will be able to see again.

177.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Feb 2008 Fri 10:56 am

News in Hurriyet..
It says that Turkey's offensive is over..Hmmm..
We will see if it is correct!!
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/8342171.asp?gid=229&sz=75952

178.       portokal
2516 posts
 29 Feb 2008 Fri 04:14 pm

a ring:

http://www.thisnext.com/item/99A5DF71/43A4CF11/Alpha-and-Omega-Ring-from

179.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 12:28 pm

Israeli minister warns of Holocaust for Gaza if violence continues:
How charming!!!

Israel's deputy defence minister yesterday warned his country was close to launching a huge military operation in Gaza and said Palestinians would bring on themselves a "bigger shoah," using the Hebrew word usually reserved for the Holocaust.

The choice of vocabulary from Matan Vilnai, an often outspoken former army general, was unusually grave - the word is not normally used for anything other than the Nazi Holocaust of the Jews.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/01/israelandthepalestinians1

180.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Mar 2008 Sun 04:24 pm

A student from Ohio disliked his principal so much he made up a Myspace page for him, complete with picture and his profile portreying him as a child molester. It described his "special interests" as (amongst others) was "jacking off in my office".

The pupils handwork was discovered and he was prompty expelled.

You can imagine the suprise (or not!) when a lawsuit landed on the desk of the local authority, from the parents of the pupil claiming their "snowflake" of a child was being denied his freedom of speech. Disrespecting teachers outside school hours was a tradition and that their son should be reinstated promptly!

181.       portokal
2516 posts
 03 Mar 2008 Mon 12:36 am

A Husbands Tale

By Du`aa' Hamdy

Translated By Yosra Mostafa

Image
You thought you never knew the taste of suffering until you met a grumpy woman who is mean and makes your life like hell. Is this the woman you married? Do you feel that you will not make it to the following year? Read about the trials and tribulations of one.

* * *

When it was my time to marry, despite was what was being said, I made-up my mind to marry a woman from my community. Of course I recognized the implications of marrying locally. I had a very bad life — the home was permeated with a cloudy atmosphere which was full of sadness and sulkiness. Breakfast time consisted of my wife yelling, and I dined to her wailing and weeping. At supper and bedtime, I was assured nothing remained unchanged by her cursing me.

We never talked, but battled. Our home was gloomy with pale colors and mysterious features. It had no life and there were two life-giving aspects: the sun and visitors.

* * *

One day, a friend of mine invited my wife and me to lunch at his home. I was so scared that my wife would refuse, or that she would go and be at her worst, which is not much different from her best! I asked her gently and kindly to come with me and she agreed without a second thought, and she was polite … I wondered why!

We made the journey to my friend's house. We were welcomed to a home that was full of light, joy, and happiness, the reason for which was the harmony between him and his wife. Happiness was their way, respect was their motto. Love guided them and brought light into their life. They were like Shahryar and Scheherazade of The Thousand and One Nights. No, they were like lovebirds that do not speak, but chant and warble. Their words to each other were those of a father and mother, a brother and sister, a husband and wife, a companion, friend, and healer.

I never wanted to leave, but we did, and I was filled with confusion. My wife was so different with my friend. Her face was softer, and she was calm to the point that she became a part of that harmonious unit. In fact, she was nothing like the she-devil that had come to make my life a misery. I did not know this woman that I have lived with for what seemed far too long.

"Allah guide my wife and make her like the wife of my friend," I thought.

I became obsessed with it all, thinking about the reasons day and night, over and over. I was never able to figure out why they were so different from us. So I decided to go to my friend and ask, and he surprised me with an unexpected reason:

"Whoever ignores, forever loses; and whoever knows, wins the world and its bliss. A woman is a gift from Allah," he said.

He continued, "Her heart is a spring of kindness, her bosom is the center of warmth, and her blood is a river of fragrance. She gives for no return, and she is tolerant with the love of good deeds. She respects her husband and guards his entity. Her beauty is in her spirit. Her charm and attraction are in her enlightened mind, awareness, and wise opinion. Had the case been different, grand men of letters would not have said 'Behind every great man is a woman' or 'Women are half the society.' So think, what happens if a man does not appreciate or respect his wife? You have no idea what the return will be if you embrace her with your kindness, with even one word!"

I left my friend in a thoughtful and light mood and returned to my wife seeking her forgiveness and regretting the life I had wasted without ever trying to understand her. From that moment, love blessed our home with respect. We lived more joyously and no less so than my friend and his wife.

* * *
And so ends my nightmare, and I pray to Allah Almighty that every man will come to know the true worth of his wife and to put an end to the life that he has wasted with his mind and his heart away from her and their marriage.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1172571475024&pagename=Zone-English-Family%2FFYELayout

182.       portokal
2516 posts
 03 Mar 2008 Mon 01:24 am

Brel et Bejart

183.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Mar 2008 Mon 03:10 am

Wonderful Stories of Islam: FOUR WIVES

Once upon a time. There was a rich merchant who had four (4) wives.

He loved the 4th wife the most and adorned her with rich robes and treated her to delicacies. He took great care of her and gave her nothing but the best.

He also loved the 3rd wife very much. He's very proud of her and always wanted to show off her to his friends. However, the merchant is always in great fear that she might run away with some other men.

He too, loved his 2nd wife. She is a very considerate person, always patient and in fact is the merchant's confidante. Whenever the merchant faced some problems, he always turned to his 2nd wife and she would always help him out and tide him through difficult times.

Now, the merchant's 1st wife is a very loyal partner and has made great contributions in maintaining his wealth and business as well as taking care of the household. However, the merchant did not love the first wife and although she loved him deeply, he hardly took notice of her.

One day, the merchant fell ill. Before long, he knew that he was going to die soon. He thought of his luxurious life and told himself, "Now I have 4 wives with me. But when I die, I'll be alone. How lonely I'll be!" Thus, he asked the 4th wife, "I loved you most, endowed you with the finest clothing and showered great care over you. Now that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?"

"No way!" replied the 4th wife and she walked away without another word.

The answer cut like a sharp knife right into the merchant's heart.

The sad merchant then asked the 3rd wife, "I have loved you so much for all my life. Now that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?"

"No!" replied the 3rd wife. "Life is so good over here! I'm going to remarry when you die!" The merchant's heart sank and turned cold.

He then asked the 2nd wife, "I always turned to you for help and you've always helped me out. Now I need your help again. When I die, will you follow me and keep me company?" "I'm sorry, I can't help you out this time!" replied the 2nd wife. "At the very most, I can only send you to your grave." The answer came like a bolt of thunder and the merchant was devastated.

Then a voice called out: "I'll leave with you. I'll follow you no matter where you go." The merchant looked up and there was his first wife. She was so skinny, almost like she suffered from malnutrition.

Greatly grieved, the merchant said, "I should have taken much better care of you while I could have!"

Actually, we all have 4 wives in our lives. The 4th wife is our body. No matter how much time and effort we lavish in making it look good, it'll leave us when we die.

Our 3rd wife is our possessions, status and wealth. When we die, they all go to others.

The 2nd wife is our family and friends. No matter how close they had been there for us when we're alive, the furthest they can stay by us is up to the grave.

The 1st wife is in fact our soul, often neglected in our pursuit of material wealth and sensual pleasure.

Guess what? It is actually the only thing that follows us wherever we go. Perhaps it's a good idea to cultivate and strengthen it now rather than to wait until we're on our deathbed to lament.


http://www.ezsoftech.com/stories/mis25.asp


184.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Mar 2008 Mon 12:59 pm

*****This is low level continuing genocide!!****

At least 112 Palestinians have been killed since Wednesday..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7274225.stm

185.       dizzyspinner
0 posts
 03 Mar 2008 Mon 01:17 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

*****This is low level continuing genocide!!****

At least 112 Palestinians have been killed since Wednesday..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7274225.stm[/QUOTE


A quote from that link:


"A spokesman for Israel's Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Arye Mekel, said the Palestinian decision was a mistake and expressed hope negotiations would resume. "

True, it is a mistake, but I'm not sure this statement is sincere.

186.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:17 am

Gay teenager from Iran

Mehdi Kazemi is a gay teenager from Iran. He sought sanctuary in Britain after his boyfriend was hanged for homosexuality. So why is Britain so determined to send him back to Tehran – to almost certain execution?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/a-life-or-death-decision-792058.html

=========

Catherine Townsend: Sleeping Around

spanking children causes an increase in sexual deviancy in adulthood.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-791980.html
(I am getting increasingly hot for this woman, btw )

187.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 01:53 pm

How nice, you american boy!!
US Marine throwing a puppy off of a cliff in Iraq


http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html

188.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 02:05 pm

VULVA ORIGINAL!!
New perfume apparently!!

caption says:

Described on its website as "The erotic, intimate scent of an irresistible woman". This is no perfume but "a beguiling vaginal scent which is purely for your own smelling pleasure". Users are advised to apply a tiny amount of this "intoxicating substance" to the back of the hand to experience "the irresistible smell of a moist, sensuous vagina".

Jonathan Ross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVff661pytI

Not putting any image..In case catwoman starts talking about feminism, exploitation blah blah!!

189.       lady in red
6947 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 07:43 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

VULVA ORIGINAL!!
New perfume apparently!!

caption says:

Described on its website as 'The erotic, intimate scent of an irresistible woman'. This is no perfume but 'a beguiling vaginal scent which is purely for your own smelling pleasure'. Users are advised to apply a tiny amount of this 'intoxicating substance' to the back of the hand to experience 'the irresistible smell of a moist, sensuous vagina'.

Jonathan Ross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVff661pytI

Not putting any image..In case catwoman starts talking about feminism, exploitation blah blah!!



Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.

190.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 08:26 pm

Quoting libralady:

A student from Ohio disliked his principal so much he made up a Myspace page for him, complete with picture and his profile portreying him as a child molester. It described his "special interests" as (amongst others) was "jacking off in my office".

The pupils handwork was discovered and he was prompty expelled.

You can imagine the suprise (or not!) when a lawsuit landed on the desk of the local authority, from the parents of the pupil claiming their "snowflake" of a child was being denied his freedom of speech. Disrespecting teachers outside school hours was a tradition and that their son should be reinstated promptly!



Just another example of a frivolous lawsuit. And you wonder why some kids turn to drugs and crime..just a little help from mom and dad.

191.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 08:54 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.


Aren't you a bit too harsh canim?

192.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 09:41 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.


Sorry LIR, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think wanting to have handsom removed for posting a couple of irreverent things is going a bit far.

193.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:01 pm

There are people cursing and swearing on this website and they don't get deleted. What would be the reason to delete handsom? Because he typed the word, "vulva"?

Handsom is fairly gentlemanly most of the time. I am sure if you have a problem with his post, you could PM him and maybe you would get an apology...or maybe not...but asking for a petition to have someone deleted is just not right.

194.       dizzyspinner
0 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:11 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


New perfume apparently!!

caption says:
[i]
Described on its website as "The erotic, intimate scent of

Not putting any image..In case catwoman starts talking about feminism, exploitation blah blah!!



I deleted most of the quote.

Thehandsom, I don't think you should be deleted because everyone deserves a second chance but this post is so vulgar. You even capitalised the first couple of words, so even if members do want to pass it by they are still left with the question of why anyone would be interested in duch a subject in Eurkish Class. Not very nice of you at all.

195.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:38 pm

It's quite interesting how people took handsom's post. I didn't find anything offensive in it, and you know how serious I am about these things lol. To me it only showed that stupidity has no limit and those idiotic manufacturers will go to any length to use stupid people.

196.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:51 pm

Quoting catwoman:

those idiotic manufacturers will go to any length to use stupid people.


Ama..catwoman..ermm
Hmmm..
(well. I think it is best if I dont tell, I have already ordered three bottles!!)

197.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:52 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


Handsom is fairly gentlemanly most of the time. I am sure if you have a problem with his post, you could PM him and maybe you would get an apology...or maybe not...but asking for a petition to have someone deleted is just not right.


Elisabeth!!
I dont remember.
are you married?

198.       geniuda
1070 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:55 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

those idiotic manufacturers will go to any length to use stupid people.


Ama..catwoman..ermm
Hmmm..
(well. I think it is best if I dont tell, I have already ordered three bottles!!)


were you told by the sellers that by advertising their product you would get 3 extra bottles for FREE??? lol lol lol

199.       libralady
5152 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:55 pm

Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.

As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.

'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.

Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.

Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!

200.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 10:57 pm

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

those idiotic manufacturers will go to any length to use stupid people.


Ama..catwoman..ermm
Hmmm..
(well. I think it is best if I dont tell, I have already ordered three bottles!!)


were you told by the sellers that by advertising their product you would get 3 extra bottles for FREE??? lol lol lol


lol
ermm..Yes..3 bottles they are sending for the advertisement..
and I have ordered 3 bottles by myself..

201.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 11:08 pm

Quoting libralady:

Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.

As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.

'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.

Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.


I totally agree with you Libralady. What the hell...!

Quoting libralady:

Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!


lol lol lol
no comments on that one!

202.       lady in red
6947 posts
 06 Mar 2008 Thu 11:29 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting lady in red:

Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.


Sorry LIR, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think wanting to have handsom removed for posting a couple of irreverent things is going a bit far.



203.       Leelu
1746 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:49 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

those idiotic manufacturers will go to any length to use stupid people.


Ama..catwoman..ermm
Hmmm..
(well. I think it is best if I dont tell, I have already ordered three bottles!!)


were you told by the sellers that by advertising their product you would get 3 extra bottles for FREE??? lol lol lol


lol
ermm..Yes..3 bottles they are sending for the advertisement..
and I have ordered 3 bottles by myself..


thehandsom has turned to the dark side lol lol lol back awaaaaaaaaaaay from the light!! lol lol lol

204.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 12:33 pm

World's Smallest Gun

World's Smallest Gun That Shoots Deadly Bullets. The Swiss Mini Gun is the size of a key fob but fires tiny 270mph bullets powerful enough to kill at close range and is officially the world's smallest working revolver. It is the being marketed as a collector's item and measures just 2.16 inches long (5.5cm). It can fire real 4.53 bullets up to a range of 367ft (112m). The stainless steel gun costs £3,000 although the manufacturers also produce extravagant, made-to-order versions made out of 18-carat gold with customised diamond studs which sell for up to £30,000. At just over two inches long it is the world's smallest gun - but the 300mph bullets it fires mean it is still deadly It cannot be imported into the UK, and buyers in Switzerland and Europe must produce an import permit from police to obtain one. The gun is banned from being imported into the US - because it's barrel is less than three inches, meaning it is deemed too small to qualify for sporting purposes.



205.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 12:40 pm

Sign on the door of a Music Store: Out to lunch. Bach at 12:30. Offenbach sooner.

206.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 12:58 pm

Quoting libralady:

Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.

As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.

'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.

Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.

Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!



Joe Orton was a brilliant writer but I hardly think his antics at the library set a good example to today's children .

Gandhi, a great human being. Perhaps his statue would remind people that peaceful protests can be effective. I understand what you are saying about this Libra - the legacy of good old British Colonialism :-S

Lineker would be my choice. A good modern role model for self control and behaviour.

207.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:15 pm

Quoting peace train:

Quoting libralady:

Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.

As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.

'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.

Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.

Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!



Joe Orton was a brilliant writer but I hardly think his antics at the library set a good example to today's children .

Gandhi, a great human being. Perhaps his statue would remind people that peaceful protests can be effective. I understand what you are saying about this Libra - the legacy of good old British Colonialism :-S

Lineker would be my choice. A good modern role model for self control and behaviour.



Apart from Lineker, the only other good thing about Leicester is the Cheese!

208.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:21 pm

Quoting libralady:

Apart from Lineker, the only other good thing about Leicester is the Cheese!


Oh, something I should know about? lol

209.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:22 pm

offf..
How about a cheese sculpture with Lineker and Ghandi playing football
like this for example?:

210.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:24 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting libralady:

Apart from Lineker, the only other good thing about Leicester is the Cheese!


Oh, something I should know about? lol



Red Leicester Cheese!

211.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:25 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

offf..
How about a cheese sculpture with Lineker and Ghandi playing football
like this for example?:



Are you sure he did not eat all the cheese?

212.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:26 pm

Quoting libralady:

Are you sure he did not eat all the cheese?


haha
He looks like..does not he? lol lol

213.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Mar 2008 Fri 03:30 pm

Quoting libralady:

Are you sure he did not eat all the cheese?


lol lol lol lol lol

214.       eddie
0 posts
 08 Mar 2008 Sat 05:15 am

Autistic children joining hands .....singing....laughing....having fun.
: >

215.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Mar 2008 Sat 09:24 am

Quoting eddie:

Autistic children joining hands .....singing....laughing....having fun.
: >


:-S

216.       eddie
0 posts
 08 Mar 2008 Sat 05:30 pm

Don't see that too often with these special kids
: >

217.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Mar 2008 Sat 11:55 pm

Grandmother, 89, seeks power via internet

Once, the internet was seen as the preserve of teenage geeks with too much time on their hands. Then came the "silver surfers", a generation of retirees keen to get to grips with the technological revolution. Now, a bicycling 89-year-old Malaysian woman is proving that the worldwide web can be a springboard to power.

Maimun is by some margin the oldest candidate standing in Saturday's national election. And she's almost certainly the oldest electoral candidate in the world. But, with a blog that boasts of nearly 8,000 hits since Wednesday alone, and a Facebook page, the grandmother of seven and great-grandmother of 19 is refusing to bow out of the race



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/grandmother-89-seeks-power-via-internet-793163.html

218.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Mar 2008 Sun 01:08 am

101 year old marathon runner

Rachel Miller 101 year old Buster Martin is going to run the London Marathon. His training involves pint drinking and smoking 40 a day. Buster holds his London Valley Half medal and Bupa Great Capital Run medal.

Libralady..see..it is possible


219.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Mar 2008 Sun 04:42 pm

Does Israel really want peace?

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has approved a plan to build up to 750 new homes in a Jewish settlement in the West Bank.
"the demographic needs of Jerusalem".
Mr Olmert's spokesman, Mark Regev said:
"We have approved it. It is consistent with our policy of building within the large settlement blocs, which will remain in Israel in any final-status agreement," he added.

Under the terms of the peace process settlement expansion is supposed to be frozen.

Does Israel really want peace?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7286264.stm

220.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Mar 2008 Sun 07:14 pm

No Israel doesn't want peace. I already posted words to this effect in another thread. The Palestinians said they would not come to the peace talks after being provoked by Israel. I think the Israelies did that on purpose, knowing what the result might be. I haven't updated on that yet though will do it now.

221.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Mar 2008 Mon 12:18 am

Turkish Press
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=219004&s=&i=&t=Intelligence_paints_grim_picture_for_Israel

222.       eddie
0 posts
 10 Mar 2008 Mon 06:37 am

223.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 11:49 am

No prostitution sign

The unofficial sign shown at Yangren street, Chonqing, March 8, 2008. The sign, meaning prostitution is strictly forbidden at Yangren street, was put up by the management department of Yangren street, in ordet to remind visitors abiding by the laws. CHINA


224.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 05:07 pm

Pupils 'to take allegiance oath'

All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship.
source BBC News

What a downright insult! How much more like America do they want us to be


and we are not citizens we are subjects as we are a monarcy! So Gordon Brown, put that in your pipe an smoke it.

225.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 05:14 pm

Quoting libralady:

Pupils 'to take allegiance oath'

All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship.
source BBC News

What a downright insult! How much more like America do they want us to be


and we are not citizens we are subjects as we are a monarcy! So Gordon Brown, put that in your pipe an smoke it.



We take a pledge to our flag & country, not GW...

226.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 05:32 pm

Quoting libralady:

Pupils 'to take allegiance oath'

All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship.
source BBC News


Ok, so the government decided that you need to be controlled better! lol
You're right about America though! Our rights and freedom are being slowly but steadily taken away one by one...

"The November 13, 2001, Presidential Military Order gave the President of the United States the power to detain a non-citizen suspected of connection to terrorists or terrorism as an unlawful combatant. As such, it was asserted that a person could be held indefinitely without charges being filed against him or her, without a court hearing, and without entitlement to a legal consultant. Many legal and constitutional scholars contended that these provisions were in direct opposition to habeas corpus and the United States Bill of Rights."

As you see, those who say that America is progressing into fascism are right..

227.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 05:35 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting libralady:

Pupils 'to take allegiance oath'

All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship.
source BBC News


Ok, so the government decided that you need to be controlled better! lol



Hail to the Queen... lol Hey I thought Brown was better than Blair..You guys are never happy are you.

228.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 05:39 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Hail to the Queen... lol Hey I thought Brown was better than Blair..You guys are never happy are you.


:-S

229.       KeithL
1455 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 05:45 pm

Quoting peace train:

No Israel doesn't want peace.



Of course they want "piece"

a piece of gaza
a piece of west bank
a piece of jerusalem
a piece of sanai...

230.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 07:36 pm

The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.

The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.

231.       KeithL
1455 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 07:42 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.

The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.



Also.
The majority of french resistence and warsaw ghetto occupants supported suicide bombings.
The majority of french resistence and warsaw ghetto occupants did not recognize Nazi germany's right to exist.
The majority of french resistence and warsaw ghetto occupants support all the acts of violence against german military and citizens during wwii.

232.       KeithL
1455 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 07:43 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.

The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.



I don't doubt most of these, but I would like to see where you got your facts for killing Jewish children...

233.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 07:50 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting teaschip1:

The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.

The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.



I don't doubt most of these, but I would like to see where you got your facts for killing Jewish children...



http://www.meforum.org/article/164/
http://www.pcpsr.org/survey/polls/2003/p9epressrelease.html

234.       KeithL
1455 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 07:55 pm

thank you tea....
please note however, this poll is over 5 years old. At that time, it was the height of Israel's internationally recognized illegal property seizures and settlements.
Since that time, many of these settlements were forfeited due to international pressure. I would hope that no one on anyside whould take pleasure in the death of a child.

235.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Mar 2008 Tue 08:03 pm

Quoting KeithL:

thank you tea....
please note however, this poll is over 5 years old. At that time, it was the height of Israel's internationally recognized illegal property seizures and settlements.
Since that time, many of these settlements were forfeited due to international pressure. I would hope that no one on anyside whould take pleasure in the death of a child.



Keith I have attached a 2007 survey, which you may find interesting. Unfortunately, there are people who do take pleasure in killing children to the degree that they even strap on a bomb to their own childs back. As far as I can see nothing has changed in five years on either side.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=257

236.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 12:14 am

US Mid-East commander steps down

The Esquire article suggested Adm Fallon was standing up to a president supposedly contemplating war with Iran.

He is described in the article as "the strongest man standing between the Bush Administration and a war with Iran".

Mr Gates said the idea that Adm Fallon's departure indicated that the US was planning to go to war with Iran was "ridiculous".

I hope this is not true..A war with iran will be a BIGGEST mistake.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7290826.stm

237.       adonis
0 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 12:31 am

a court jester and a traitor in somewhere...

238.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 12:50 am

That Peace Train resigned

239.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 12:54 am

Quoting Roswitha:

resigned



240.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 04:45 am

Fall from Grace: E. Spitzer
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112008/news/regionalnews/spitzer_has_used_hookers_for_6_years__so_101444.htm

prosecutors said in court papers that Spitzer had been caught on a wiretap spending $4,300 with the Emperors Club VIP call-girl service, with some of the money going toward a night with a prostitute named Kristen, and the rest to be used as credit toward future trysts. The papers also suggested that Spitzer had done this before.

241.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 08:06 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Fall from Grace: E. Spitzer


The funny thing is, the Governor was caught because of banking software that tracks all money transfers to look for money laundering. Software that, as New York Attorney General, Spitzer himself lobbied it have beefed up and installed in all financial institutions in New York.
His transfers raised suspicions which lead to the Escort Service and ultimately right back to the Governor.

242.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 10:21 am

Quoting libralady:

Pupils 'to take allegiance oath'

All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship.
source BBC News

What a downright insult! How much more like America do they want us to be


and we are not citizens we are subjects as we are a monarcy! So Gordon Brown, put that in your pipe an smoke it.


I knew Mark Steel wont miss this subject

When Tony Blair and Gordon Brown launched the idea of New Labour, it was as a crusade to be modern...

And they ended up so modern they gave the job of reviewing British citizenship to Lord Goldsmith, who's concluded everyone should undergo a ceremony in which they pledge an oath of allegiance to the Queen. This is so advanced the rest of Europe only abandoned it 200 years ago. So there are probably other bits of his report, not yet published, which go: "Loyal British citizenship will be enhanced by dismantling the system of local government, and replacing it with a network of barons. A sense of modern national unity will be advanced if citizens, who shall also be known as 'serfs', kneel before them on the third Sunday of each month and offer them their wives as chattel. This measure, I feel, should bring about a rapid decrease in the practice of city centre binge-drinking."

One of the questions in the British Citizenship test asks what you should do in the event of someone spilling your drink in the pub. So from now on the correct answer will be: "Challenge them to a duel."

So maybe the boys will have lessons in subjects such as being sexually attracted to Helen Mirren. And teachers will say: "We're very lucky today because Mrs Mirren has kindly agreed to sit at the front of the class for us so off you go. Come on Jenkins, start tingling boy, and Walcott, let's have a bit of drooling shall we, this is a national treasure, surely the odd slobber isn't too much to ask."

Americans,..
But their pledge is to a set of ideas on which the country was founded

Anyway, the thing is we just don't do oaths and pledges of allegiance because they're not British. And anyone who says otherwise should be told they've failed the test, don't understand our culture and have to go and live somewhere else.

lol
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-lets-be-modern-and-swear-an-oath-to-the-monarchy-794428.html

243.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 03:30 pm

this article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03122008/news/regionalnews/80g_addicted_to_love_gov_101541.htm

244.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 08:15 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

this article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03122008/news/regionalnews/80g_addicted_to_love_gov_101541.htm



I feel sorry for his family...

245.       geniuda
1070 posts
 12 Mar 2008 Wed 08:18 pm

Quoting girleegirl:


The funny thing is, the Governor was caught because of banking software that tracks all money transfers to look for money laundering. Software that, as New York Attorney General, Spitzer himself lobbied it have beefed up and installed in all financial institutions in New York.
His transfers raised suspicions which lead to the Escort Service and ultimately right back to the Governor.


How stupid, isnt? lol

246.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Mar 2008 Thu 01:26 pm

I am sure you are dying to learn who 'Mr and Mrs Slimming World 2008.'
Here we go
Darren Starling Michelle (39) and Andy (46) Smith from Kirkby, Nottinghamshire who have lost over 13 stone together to be crowned Mr and Mrs Slimming World 2008.

before

after




247.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 13 Mar 2008 Thu 10:47 pm

Spitzer stepped down amid a call-girl scandal that made a mockery of his straight-arrow image and left him facing the prospect of criminal charges and perhaps disbarment. Paterson takes over Monday, and requested the time lag so he could prepare and so Spitzer could say a proper goodbye to his staff.

Lawmakers embrace new order
Spitzer and his successor have starkly different leadership styles. While Spitzer was famously abrasive, uncompromising and even insulting, Paterson has built a reputation as a conciliator, and lawmakers quickly embraced the new order.

Barely known outside his Harlem political base, Paterson, 53, has been in New York government since his election to the state Senate in 1985. Though legally blind, he has enough sight in his right eye to walk unaided, recognize people at conversational distance and even read if the text is placed close to his face.

Paterson said he had spoken to Spitzer. “I just told him how sorry I was this happened and how much he still inspires me,” Paterson said.

Of Spitzer’s disclosures and resignation, Paterson said: “I’m getting over it.”

Spitzer resigned Wednesday, making an announcement without securing a plea bargain with federal prosecutors, though a law enforcement official said the former governor was still believed to be negotiating one. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

“I cannot allow my private failings to disrupt the people’s work,” Spitzer said at a Manhattan news conference, his weary-looking wife, Silda, again standing at his side as he answered for his actions for the second time in three days.

Crusader brought down by sex scandal
The resignation brought down the curtain on a riveting drama — played out, sometimes, as farce — that made Spitzer an instant punchline on late-night TV and fascinated Americans with the spectacle of a crusading politician exposed as a hypocrite.

The scandal erupted Monday after federal law enforcement officials disclosed that a wiretap had caught the 48-year-old father of three teenage daughters arranging to spend thousands of dollars on a call girl at a fancy Washington hotel on the night before Valentine’s Day.

Investigators said he had arranged for a prostitute named Kristen to take the train down from New York while he was in the nation’s capital to testify before a congressional subcommittee about the bond industry.

The New York Times reported Wednesday that the woman, born as Ashley Youmans, legally changed her name to Ashley Rae Maika DiPietro and is now known as Ashley Alexandra Dupre. She declined comment when asked by the Times when she first met Spitzer and how many times they had been together.

It was unclear whether she would face charges; attorney Don D. Buchwald confirmed that he represents the same woman in the Times story but wouldn’t comment further.

Law enforcement officials said the governor had hired prostitutes several times before and had spent tens of thousands of dollars, and perhaps as much as $80,000, on the high-priced escort service Emperors Club VIP, whose women charge as much as $5,500 an hour.

Spitzer not charged, future unclear
After making a watery-eyed, nonspecific public apology Monday with his wife by his side, Spitzer continued to talk to family and advisers through Tuesday. By Wednesday morning, aides said, he had decided to resign.


In a statement issued after Spitzer quit, U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia, the chief federal prosecutor in New York, said: “There is no agreement between this office and Gov. Eliot Spitzer relating to his resignation or any other matter.”

Among the possible charges that law enforcement authorities said could be brought against the former governor: soliciting and paying for sex; violating the Mann Act, the 1910 federal law that makes it a crime to take someone across state lines for immoral purposes; and illegally arranging cash transactions to conceal their purpose.

Spitzer could also be disbarred. In New York, an attorney can lose his license to practice law for failing to “conduct himself both professionally and personally, in conformity with the standards of conduct imposed upon members of the bar.”

It was a spectacular collapse for a man who cultivated an image as a hard-nosed politician hell-bent on cleansing the state of corruption. He served two terms as New York attorney general, earning the nickname “Sheriff of Wall Street,” and was elected governor with a record share of the vote in 2006. The tall, athletic, square-jawed Spitzer was sometimes mentioned as a potential candidate for president.

248.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Mar 2008 Sat 02:57 am

Thrills or Chills (re:Spitzer)

There's chemical evidence: sensation seekers have lower levels of monoamine oxidase A, which regulates the brain's levels of dopamine, the "pleasure" neurotransmitter.

Risk Rules! Sensation seekers don't just lust after things--they take them, often disregarding the risks that block their way. "When you're dealing with these high-level, in-your-face, go-for-everything guys, you're dealing with people who take a lot of risks.

He's Hormonal. Alpha males are high on testosterone, the hormone that underlies almost all the typical traits of the politico-sexual animal: high levels of testosterone make for a high sex drive, a love of risks, aggressiveness and competitiveness. "These people have a strong need to win at games, which is obviously important in power politics," says Zuckerman. Success sends their testosterone spiraling up, while a loss brings the levels down—a phenomenon that's been documented in the lab as well as in athletes and chess champions.

Newsweek
http://www.pagesix.com/story/spitzer%20s%20hooker%20revealed

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/03/11/emperors_club/

249.       eddie
0 posts
 16 Mar 2008 Sun 03:08 am

250.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Mar 2008 Sun 12:11 pm

Balloon Dresses
caption says:

Designers have come up with some eye-popping dresses that are made entirely from balloons. Each dress consists of around 300 modelling balloons twisted together and took about ten hours to make. Most of the balloons are 60 inches long and either one or two inches thick. Balloon artist Katie Laibstain, 23, has sold some of her designs for as much as £1,000, even though they are likely to be wearable once only. Fellow balloon artist Steven Jones, 39, said his purple and gold dress took nearly 10 hours to make 'with an additional one and half hours to get the young lady in the piece'.



251.       portokal
2516 posts
 16 Mar 2008 Sun 01:28 pm

Dalai Lama Calls for Tibet Probe

252.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Mar 2008 Mon 05:50 am

Eliot Spitzer is lewd but still shrewd

Spitzer, a moral crusader who humbly announced his resignation days ago, effective Monday, could face other charges too, including soliciting and paying for sex, and illegally arranging cash transactions to conceal their purpose.

"If he's prosecuted under the Mann Act, it's because of who he is rather than what he did," Langum said. "Because he's the governor of New York and because he was a hard-liner on crime."

The act, named for Illinois Congressman James Robert Mann, grew out of hysteria during the turn of the last century over fears that immigrant men were abducting white women and girls who were leaving rural farm areas to work in cities, and forcing them into prostitution, historians said

253.       libralady
5152 posts
 17 Mar 2008 Mon 04:06 pm

At last, the EuP has been taken against Chinese oil giant PetroChina/ CNPC. It has sold it's shares in the company.

The European Parliament has disinvested in a firm accused of being one of the chief bankrollers of the Sudanese regime's military campaign in Darfur after pressure from MEPs and human rights activists.

We wait for more action to be taken!

254.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 06:32 pm

Obama's speech
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/18/778950.aspx

255.       geniuda
1070 posts
 18 Mar 2008 Tue 08:24 pm

wooow!! Eddie is gone too :-S

256.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Mar 2008 Wed 09:15 pm

A man and woman loved their dogs so much, that when they brushed them they saved their fur. In fact they saved so much, that when the dogs died, they decided to have the fur spun, make jumpers and wear their dogs with pride!

Doggy Fur jumpers!

257.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Mar 2008 Wed 09:21 pm

And.............. who says crime does not pay!

A career crimial was imprisioned for around 12 burglaries. Enough one might think, but he had a sudden guilty conscious (so the do gooders will tell you) and called police to his prision cell where he subsequently confessed to a further 305 burglaries. So for several weeks he was taken around his area by police and he duly showed them exactly where he burgled, including details of how he broke in and what he stole! He was taken to court again and the judge gave him just another two months on his sentance, to the outrage of those whose property he had burgled. The judge was astounded by his memory.

Now I can hear you saying 'well done chap', but when you admit to further crimes in prison you cannot be taken to court again when you are released and effectively come out with a clean slate. He sounds like one clever dude to me!

258.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 12:39 am

Five years ago, on the evening of 19 March 2003, President George Bush appeared on American television to say that military action had started against Iraq.

This is the war that started with lies, and continues with lie after lie after lie
Patrick Cockburn
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-this-is-the-war-that-started-with-lies-and-continues-with-lie-after-lie-after-lie-797788.html

I love this guys writings:
Robert Fisk: The only lesson we ever learn is that we never learn
It is like a history lesson really

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fisk/robert-fisk-the-only-lesson-we-ever-learn-is-that-we-never-learn-797816.html

259.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 21 Mar 2008 Fri 02:17 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmD04YSqhc

http://www.payvand.com/news/07/aug/1246.html

260.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Mar 2008 Fri 01:46 pm

Ghost flights are an outrage! Empty planes fly long haul! My "favourite" airline BA and still waiting for my compensation for being denyed boarding from Ankara to Heathrow 7 months later!

261.       KeithL
1455 posts
 21 Mar 2008 Fri 03:30 pm

my driveway this morning...
20 cm of new snow overnight and more coming.

262.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Mar 2008 Fri 03:35 pm

Eggis of Evil
advert by Nulaid eggs from South Africa

caption says:

What better way to promote eggs than use terrorists and despots? The Jupiter Drawing Room came up with these images to promote South African egg producer Nulaid. The eggs depicting Kim Jong Il, Hitler and Bin Laden make up the Eggis of Evil



263.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Mar 2008 Sat 01:09 am

http://www.travelblog.org/Middle-East/Syria/Damascus/blog-145139.html

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/0/05/20060829211414!Susa_(Iran)_Wall_Painting.JPG

264.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Mar 2008 Sun 05:44 pm

wow..Fatih Terim for Chelsea?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/2008/03/22/roman-you-are-the-one-for-me-fatih-89520-20358945/

265.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 24 Mar 2008 Mon 03:05 pm

US death toll in Iraq hits 4,000

US troops continue to face attacks from Sunni and Shia fighters as the war enters its sixth year

The death toll of US military in Iraq has passed 4,000 after the US Central Command announced that four more troops had died in an attack.

The soldiers were killed on Sunday by a roadside bomb during a patrol in southern Baghdad, the military said on Monday.

At least 50 Iraqis, most of them civilians, also died on Sunday in violence including bomb blasts and shootings.

In the most deadly attack, 13 Iraqi soldiers were killed when a suicide bomber drove a vehicle packed with explosives into a security checkpoint in the northern city of Mosul.

Conflict rages

More than 29,000 American soldiers have been wounded after years of conflict in Iraq, according to the icasualties.org website, which also carried the 4,000-strong US death toll.

The death toll is still considerably smaller than the number of Iraqis who have died in the conflict.

After five years, was the Iraq war worth it?

"It has been left to journalists and academics to try and estimate the number that have died. Estimates vary from 89,000 on the lowest side to the highest figure that I have heard - which is one million," James Bays, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Baghdad, said.

"When you speak to an Iraqi who has stayed here in this country throughout the last five years, everyone knows someone who has died, and most families have lost a family member."

At least 97 per cent of the US military deaths came after George Bush, the US president, announced the end of "major combat" in Iraq on May 1, 2003.
Facing violence

Since the US military toppled Saddam Hussein, Iraq's president, it has faced a violent anti-occupation campaign and witnessed violence between the country's sectarian communities.

"No casualty is more or less significant than another; each soldier, marine, airman and sailor is equally precious and their loss equally tragic," Rear Admiral Gregory Smith, US military spokesman in Baghdad, said of the losses.

"Being in the military means we are willingly in harm's way to protect others in order to bring hope and a sustainable security to the Iraqi people."

The milestone death toll comes day after Bush defended his decision to invade Iraq, saying the US would remain in Iraq and promising American soldiers that they would emerge victorious.

'Far from over'

Hoda Abdel Hamid, Al Jazeera's Iraq correspondent, said the high death toll showed that the conflict had not been fully contained by the US.

In video

The impact of the US death toll on military families


"The Bush administration keeps saying that things are getting better and better. Reaching such a milestone is a reminder that the war is far from over in Iraq," she said.

"We are at a transition period. Despite the fact that the surge is working, despite the fact that the violence has dropped ... things could get much worse underground."

Abdel Hamid said that the "surge" could not work effectively unless it was accompanied by national reconciliation of Iraq's sectarian communities.

Cause of deaths

More than 80 per cent of soldiers killed have died in attacks by al-Qaeda in Iraq, Sunni and Shia fighters, icasualties.org said.

The remainder died in non-combat related incidents.

Around 40 per cent of those killed were struck by roadside bombs, according to the website, making these weapons the main cause of fatalities.


For the US army, 2007 was the deadliest year,
when it lost 901 soldiers in Iraq [AFP]

Small-arms fire was the second biggest killer, the website said, with helicopter crashes, ambushes, rocket attacks and suicide bombings also the cause of many deaths.

The deadliest year for the military in Iraq was 2007 when it lost 901 troops, the icasualties.org website figures said.

This figure compares with 486 deaths in 2003, the first year of the conflict, 849 in 2004, 846 in 2005 and 822 in 2006. Since the start of 2008, 96 soldiers have died.

Vietnam has been the deadliest war for the US military, apart from the two world wars, with 58,000 soldiers killed between 1964 and 1973, an average of 26 a day.

On average, just over two US soldiers die each day in Iraq.

'Surge' debate

American soldiers in Iraq interviewed by news agencies said that while they were sad about the losses, the conflict was justified.

"It's sad that the number is that high. It makes you wonder if there is a different way of approaching things. Nobody likes to hear that number," said senior Airman Preston Reeves, 26, from Birmingham, Alabama.

"Every one of those people signed up voluntarily and it's a shame that that happens, but tragedies do happen in war.

"It's a shame you don't get support from your own country, when all they want you to do is leave Iraq and all these people will have died in vain."

Withdrawal calls

Against the backdrop of the rising US military death toll, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, Democratic candidates for the 2008 presidential nomination, are calling for the withdrawal of troops.

Clinton has said that she may consider pulling troops out of the country after 60 days, she should win the nomination and the presidency.

But John McCain, who is set to become the Republican candidate in the presidential race, has advocated US soldiers remaining in Iraq.

McCain remains a strong supporter of Bush's controversial "surge", which saw 30,000 extra soldiers deployed in an attempt to improve security in Iraq.






266.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Mar 2008 Mon 04:47 pm

Ever thought about cheering up a sick relative in hospital by bringing in their pets?

A Hawaiian man did just that, thought tha he would brighten the day of his sick relative but............

A Hawaiian hospital has restated its rules on pets after a man took a horse up in a lift in a bid to cheer up a sick relative with his favourite steed.
Man and beast were stopped by security guards only after reaching the third floor, after apparently passing through the lobby unchallenged.

The patient was allowed to see them but it turned out to be the wrong horse.


267.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Mar 2008 Mon 09:16 pm

WHERE IS EVERYONE???

268.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 24 Mar 2008 Mon 10:20 pm

snow on second Easter day..more like xmas mood not easter..ehhhhhhhhhh

269.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Mar 2008 Mon 10:45 pm

Quoting kafesteki kus:

snow on second Easter day..more like xmas mood not easter..ehhhhhhhhhh



Poor thing....the kids all went swimming after our Easter Egg Hunt yesterday....It's good to be in sunny Texas!!

270.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 24 Mar 2008 Mon 10:49 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting kafesteki kus:

snow on second Easter day..more like xmas mood not easter..ehhhhhhhhhh



Poor thing....the kids all went swimming after our Easter Egg Hunt yesterday....It's good to be in sunny Texas!!

i want to Texas,at least back to Spain.....but every cloud has its silver lining..we call it drink weather... bars and pubs weather...ahhh...Polish romanticism...

271.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Mar 2008 Tue 02:57 am

Penn and Kym
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33mnZi33Mok

272.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Mar 2008 Tue 12:59 pm

World Water Day (I never knew there was one)
http://www.worldwaterday.org

And gaza again

caption says:

March 22, 2008, Khan Younis, Gaza Strip, Palestinian Territories: Palestinians fill their bottles with potable water at the only water purification station in Khan Younis, northern Gaza Strip. In the Occasion of the World Day for Water approved March 22, Palestinians still suffer from lack of potable water and resort to water purification stations for transport their needing of safe drinking water

273.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Mar 2008 Tue 05:24 pm

Handsom's knowledge of fetishes!!! He's a wicked monkey!!

274.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Mar 2008 Tue 06:34 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Handsom's knowledge of fetishes!!! He's a wicked monkey!!


+1
Loveprague was right about turkish guys... :-S

275.       karpusqueen
0 posts
 25 Mar 2008 Tue 09:01 pm

Have the thread statistics been changed? I'm sure it used to show the number of viewings a thread had as well as the number of replies.

276.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Mar 2008 Tue 09:20 pm

Quoting karpusqueen:

Have the thread statistics been changed? I'm sure it used to show the number of viewings a thread had as well as the number of replies.


Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...

277.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 12:25 am

Sad news today:

Vienna - One motorist was killed and 37 other persons injured in a mass pile-up on the Vienna-Salzburg motorway amid heavy snowfalls on Tuesday, police officials said. The accident took place on the stretch between Seewalch and St. Georgen on a highway covered in ice from a winter storm which struck the European continent.

The person killed was a woman from Switzerland who was hurled from her car in the collision and then run over by a lorry, officials said.

The autobahn, or motorway, was closed in both directions as rescue efforts involving dozens of ambulances and helicopters got underway. The efforts were hampered by ongoing heavy snowfall and poor visibility.

Officials also revised downwards the numbers of injured and the vehicles involved once they had a better assessment of the scene where dozens of cars had smashed into and piled atop each other in a scene of chaos.

Initial reports had spoken of at least 60 injured and upwards of 100 cars.

Police cited not only the slippery road conditions and poor visibility, but also blamed motorists for driving too fast, as factors in the mass collision.

Meanhwile, parts of Austria have been hit by harsh winter again. Meteorological services in Tyrol warned of "deep wintry conditions" and the danger of avalanches has increased dramatically in the Austrian Alps.

At least 20 centimetres of new snow were measured in west and north Tyrol and up to a half metre of snowfall was expected by Tuesday evening. The latest snowfall has led to mass traffic delays on several roads.

Five centimetres of snow fell in valleys across Salzburg state and up to 30 centimetres have been forecast for Wednesday.

The avalanche warning service has raised the risk of avalanches to "high" in areas where they have been particularly heavy falls of new snow namely in Silvretta, Arlberg/Ausserfern, the Northern Alps and the Kitzbuehler Alpen. The Salzburger Land region was also in danger of avalanches.

Avalanches were to be expected because of the weight of the new snow.

278.       karpusqueen
0 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 12:38 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting karpusqueen:

Have the thread statistics been changed? I'm sure it used to show the number of viewings a thread had as well as the number of replies.


Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...



Well of course it doesn't matter, I just wondered if I was imagining it. Queen? hmmmmm queen . . . queen . . . What's wrong with plain old Karpus , or should it be Karpuz?

279.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:10 am

same sad news: MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23791873/

280.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:23 am

Quoting catwoman:


Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...


There is(was) only one queen here..

281.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:28 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:


Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...


There is(was) only one queen here..


There IS another queen here? Is it YOU?

282.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:31 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:


Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...


There is(was) only one queen here..


There IS another queen here? Is it YOU?


I dont think my gender will let me to be a queen..

283.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:35 am

Quoting thehandsom:

I dont think my gender will let me to be a queen..


It doesn't matter, if you want to be the queen, you got it!

284.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:47 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

I dont think my gender will let me to be a queen..


It doesn't matter, if you want to be the queen, you got it!


you got it wrong again!!
anyway..
This reminded me beauty contests in turkey in each town.(and also, there is a big contest for miss Turkey)

-tomato queen
-potato queen
-paper queen
-karpuz queen
goes on and on. lol lol


285.       karpusqueen
0 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 01:54 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:


Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...


There is(was) only one queen here..



Maybe "is" is the operative word here.

286.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 02:22 pm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E9A36960-AB5A-43E7-A637-4628328249EB.htm?choice=3&dgDiscID=261&dgPoolID=86366c05-c904-4fe2-839e-c91a0be8ec18

287.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 02:35 pm

Carl Warner

http://www.yumsugar.com/928943

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10497629

288.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 Mar 2008 Wed 02:58 pm

More what I heard!

A wild beaver has been spotted on / in the Thames area of London, the first one for 400 years! Now that does surprise me lol

289.       cybernetics
753 posts
 27 Mar 2008 Thu 12:10 pm

Are we alone ?

do you want to see a ufo on google earth ?

copy these cordinations and paste on 'Fly To' on google earth program. you can see a very interesting object. ( dont forget to make zoom )

they positions are in West of Romania, southeast of Timisoara..

first ufo direction: 45 42'12.16'N 21 18'7.20'E

second ufo direction: 45 42'2.49'N 21 15'49.35'E


picture is here:



290.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 12:35 am

Quoting cybernetics:

Are we alone ?

do you want to see a ufo on google earth ?

copy these cordinations and paste on 'Fly To' on google earth program. you can see a very interesting object. ( dont forget to make zoom )

they positions are in West of Romania, southeast of Timisoara..

first ufo direction: 45 42'12.16'N 21 18'7.20'E

second ufo direction: 45 42'2.49'N 21 15'49.35'E


picture is here:




arthur c ,clark the author of space oddessey2002 used to say"either we are alone in space or not,both possibilities r equally terryfing"
sorry,laptop keybord...cannot get used to it))))

291.       cybernetics
753 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 02:07 pm

i agree with arthur c, clark

292.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 03:56 pm

Chaos at the opening of Heathrow Terminal 5


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/27/europe/heathrow.php

293.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Mar 2008 Fri 04:07 pm

The 10 deadliest drugs
http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100198254&page=2

294.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Mar 2008 Sat 01:06 am

Quoting Roswitha:

The 10 deadliest drugs
http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100198254&page=2



I was shocked to see Actamenophine on this list, who knew Tylenol would be...

295.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Mar 2008 Sat 01:18 am

Iraqi government's shaky authority
Can they really finish mehdi army?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/stalled-assault-on-basra-exposes-the-iraqi-governments-shaky-authority-801776.html

and ..
US President George W Bush has called the Iraqi government offensive against militiamen in Basra "a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq".
phew
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7319678.stm

296.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Mar 2008 Sun 05:11 pm

MESSENGERS FROM GOD
caption reads:

Asieh, a rat child,with her sisters at their house in a village near Gujrat. Asieh is a 9 year old girl living with her family. One of her brothers and one of her sisters have died from the same condition a few years ago. In Pakistan, children afflicted with a condition known as microcephaly, stemming from a variety of possible factors, have a distinctly smaller head and receding forehead. Known as rat children, in this society they are considered closer to God, or messengers


297.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Mar 2008 Sun 05:14 pm

OCTOPUSHY
caption reads:

Underwater hockey (also called Octopush) is a non-contact sport in which two teams compete to maneuver a puck across the bottom of a swimming pool into goals. This pictures are about the only amateur portuguese underwater hockey team who is training to the european championship in Turkey

298.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Mar 2008 Sun 05:19 pm

Kamaiya
caption reads

Kalali region, November 2007 Ð Tharu ethnic group is subjected to a terrible kind of slavery named Kamaiya. The kamaiya is a slave, or forced worker, who had to subdue to one or more ÒmastersÓ in order to pay for a debt, even if a small one. As debts do not come to an end with the debtorÕs death, the condition of kamaiya is inherited for generations from father to son, from an individual to a whole family


299.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Mar 2008 Sun 05:41 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Chaos at the opening of Heathrow Terminal 5


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/27/europe/heathrow.php



And the chaos continues! With in the region of 15,000 lost bags to be reunited with their owners! 6 months of testing the systems.

300.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 03:04 pm

GIANT PANDAS MATE AT A CHINESE ZOO (around 10am on the 29th March!!!)
caption reads:

Two Giant pandas Qing Qing, male, and Ying Ying, female, make love at the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center in Wolong, southwest Chinas Sichuan province on the 29th March 2008. 11-year-old male giant panda Qing Qing and 17-year-old female giant panda Ying Ying started to mate around 10am on the 29th March. It took them 2 minutes and 9 seconds to finish the mating, according to the timing made by Tang Chunxiang, a researcher of the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center. Tang said giant pandas have very selective on mating. The researchers of the center will perform an artificial insemination on Ying Ying to make sure that she will be pregnant

301.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 08:33 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

GIANT PANDAS MATE AT A CHINESE ZOO


Only you would be able to find a way to post "panda porn" on TC!!!

302.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 09:48 pm

Not to mention 2 minutes and 9 seconds.

303.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 09:57 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting thehandsom:

GIANT PANDAS MATE AT A CHINESE ZOO


Only you would be able to find a way to post "panda porn" on TC!!!



First Bunny Porn now Panda Porn! That's it...I think TC has sunk to a new low! Shame on you!!

304.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:23 pm

This is one area that we haven't been censored yet so come on handsom...post some more animal porn!!!


Oops, am I off topic?

305.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:24 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

This is one area that we haven't been censored yet so come on handsom...post some more animal porn!!!


Oops, am I off topic?



I sense you are a bed amerikan!

306.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:27 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


I sense you are a bed amerikan!


Actually, I am....very very bed!! lol

307.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:29 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

GIANT PANDAS MATE AT A CHINESE ZOO (around 10am on the 29th March!!!)
caption reads:

Two Giant pandas Qing Qing, male, and Ying Ying, female, make love at the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center in Wolong, southwest Chinas Sichuan province on the 29th March 2008. 11-year-old male giant panda Qing Qing and 17-year-old female giant panda Ying Ying started to mate around 10am on the 29th March. It took them 2 minutes and 9 seconds to finish the mating, according to the timing made by Tang Chunxiang, a researcher of the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center. Tang said giant pandas have very selective on mating. The researchers of the center will perform an artificial insemination on Ying Ying to make sure that she will be pregnant



That was my wedding anniversary....it's been defiled!! YUCK!

308.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:30 pm

Uh oh! I see kitty here and I sense I am gonna get in trouble for asking handsom to post animal porn!!!

309.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:44 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Uh oh! I see kitty here and I sense I am gonna get in trouble for asking handsom to post animal porn!!!


Excuse-moi??!!!!!

310.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:49 pm

Quoting catwoman:


Excuse-moi??!!!!!


Uhhh.....HI KITTY!!!

311.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:52 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


Excuse-moi??!!!!!


Uhhh.....HI KITTY!!!


Hello dear... come here, let me give you hug!

312.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 11:02 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


Excuse-moi??!!!!!


Uhhh.....HI KITTY!!!


Hello dear... come here, let me give you hug!


That's ok, I don't need a hug. Ummm....I have to go now. I have to go inspect our new building. Yeah....that's it.....I gotta go!!!!!!!!!!!

313.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:15 am

Quoting girleegirl:

That's ok, I don't need a hug. Ummm....I have to go now. I have to go inspect our new building. Yeah....that's it.....I gotta go!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't run away!!! I'll find you...

314.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:18 am

Quoting catwoman:


Don't run away!!! I'll find you...


Oh crap! I just got back!!! What were you doing, lying in wait for me????

315.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:25 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


Don't run away!!! I'll find you...


Oh crap! I just got back!!! What were you doing, lying in wait for me????


Did you eat the dessert that I left for you..???

316.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 02:29 am

Quoting catwoman:


Did you eat the dessert that I left for you..???


Oh! Did you leave that? We stopped for some amazing frozen yogurt on the way back from the new building and I was just too full to eat another bite!

317.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 03:00 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


Did you eat the dessert that I left for you..???


Oh! Did you leave that? We stopped for some amazing frozen yogurt on the way back from the new building and I was just too full to eat another bite!


damn!

318.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 12:05 pm

It sounds like the news of April fool´s day,but it is not.
The news made my day.
The policeman on duty running after shoplifters,in his uniform ,totally armed ,caught them after 50 m having wonderful sprint time.
It would not be funny if the shoplifters(stealing sweets by the way)were not representatives of national athlete team in dash.
Happened in Poland.
Well,either we have such good policemen or such bad athletes lol

319.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 12:29 pm


Colony of flying penguins has been discoverd in the antarctic and a film documentary has been made. This is a 90 mininte film, but just so you can get the feel of it, I posted the BBC link.

Amazing! What will they discover next?

320.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 01:35 pm

Quoting libralady:


Colony of flying penguins has been discoverd in the antarctic and a film documentary has been made. This is a 90 mininte film, but just so you can get the feel of it, I posted the BBC link.

Amazing! What will they discover next?


wow..I never knew they could fly!!

321.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 01:53 pm

You can only watch it in the UK

322.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Apr 2008 Wed 01:52 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

You can only watch it in the UK



Well maybe that was just as well! It was rather a poor attempt at an April fools joke on behalf of the BBC!

323.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Apr 2008 Wed 10:44 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

You can only watch it in the UK



Well maybe that was just as well! It was rather a poor attempt at an April fools joke on behalf of the BBC!


And I believed it

324.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Apr 2008 Wed 10:46 pm

PM leaps to defence of immigrants after Lords claim they do nothing for Britain

Mr Brown told his monthly press conference that migration had added £6bn to the economy and was a "substantial income".
Most British businesses that have faced labour shortages had benefited from being able to recruit more widely for skilled labour, he added.
he said gross domestic product per head had risen since 1997 from £13,900 to £22,840 in the past year. He said a cap on immigrants could be applied only to those outside the EU. "Most people who are proposing a cap are proposing a cap of only 20 per cent of possible migrants," he said. "Many of these people are the highly skilled workers who are important to the economy."

AND I vote for labour of course


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pm-leaps-to-defence-of-immigrants-after-lords-claim-they-do-nothing-for-britain-803534.html

325.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 11:43 am

Quoting thehandsom:

PM leaps to defence of immigrants after Lords claim they do nothing for Britain

Mr Brown told his monthly press conference that migration had added £6bn to the economy and was a "substantial income".
Most British businesses that have faced labour shortages had benefited from being able to recruit more widely for skilled labour, he added.
he said gross domestic product per head had risen since 1997 from £13,900 to £22,840 in the past year. He said a cap on immigrants could be applied only to those outside the EU. "Most people who are proposing a cap are proposing a cap of only 20 per cent of possible migrants," he said. "Many of these people are the highly skilled workers who are important to the economy."

AND I vote for labour of course


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pm-leaps-to-defence-of-immigrants-after-lords-claim-they-do-nothing-for-britain-803534.html



The new points based system being introduced into the UK to stem the flow of migrants will only affect those from outside the EEA countries. At first they have introduced Tier 1 in February, and this will affect highly skilled workers, such as doctors, dentist, Civil Engineers etc etc. They will need to be able to accumulate 75 points and that is based on salary, level of English and education. It only extends as far as India at the moment, but will be introduced to the rest of the world by the end of the year.

In the following years, Tier 2, for skilled workers, again on salary and education levels.

Tier 3 will be where it really hits, non-skilled workers, and those that will be affected most will the food industry, such as Indian, Chinese and Turkish restaurants. When it comes time to re-aply for visa's this system will come into play. It is already affecting Philipino nurses, lured to the UK a few years ago to fill gaps in nursing. Now they are being sent home as they don't meet the new requirements.

Immigration will still take place in the EEA countries but the Poles are already turning back being lured by a better economy and higher standard of living (than previous) in Poland.

326.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 12:20 pm

Quoting libralady:



Immigration will still take place in the EEA countries but the Poles are already turning back being lured by a better economy and higher standard of living (than previous) in Poland.



I wouldn't count on that, what is happening is the exchange of labour-force. The Poles that came over there a few years ago earned what they needed and now they're coming back to work out a pension at home. New ones will come for sure. I remember from my teaching days at a secondary school that most of my students' short-term plan was to go to the UK or ROI for a couple of years.

Economy in Poland might be better, still, there's no chance to make as much as in the UK when you're a blue-collar worker. The prices, on the other hand, are similar. E.g. if you want to buy a flat you'll have to pay from 1130 - 2700 pounds per square metre ($ 2230-5400 ) while the average income is 340 pounds/month net ($700 )...

327.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 01:25 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting libralady:



Immigration will still take place in the EEA countries but the Poles are already turning back being lured by a better economy and higher standard of living (than previous) in Poland.



I wouldn't count on that, what is happening is the exchange of labour-force. The Poles that came over there a few years ago earned what they needed and now they're coming back to work out a pension at home. New ones will come for sure. I remember from my teaching days at a secondary school that most of my students' short-term plan was to go to the UK or ROI for a couple of years.

Economy in Poland might be better, still, there's no chance to make as much as in the UK when you're a blue-collar worker. The prices, on the other hand, are similar. E.g. if you want to buy a flat you'll have to pay from 1130 - 2700 pounds per square metre ($ 2230-5400 ) while the average income is 340 pounds/month net ($700 )...



I am referring more to the construction industry where there is a definite shift. With the EURO2012 construction in Warsaw, then we are seeing construction workers returning and a definite drop in those coming. There is strong competition for construction workers here because it coincides with the Olympic development and other major construction work. Interesting times ahead I think! btw Poles are hard workers and put many of our Brits to shame!

328.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 03:04 pm

heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities lol

329.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 03:17 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities lol



I have also heard that it will be Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turks (on good authority!)

330.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 03:20 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Daydreamer:

heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities lol



I have also heard that it will be Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turks (on good authority!)



Really? That's great

331.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 04:19 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Daydreamer:

heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities lol



I have also heard that it will be Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turks (on good authority!)



Really? That's great



Yes and I have had to turn down a project which would have meant I would have to come to Turkey!

Now we have hijacked the thread, so this is my last post on the subject!

332.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 11:16 pm

We have a nice little law in the UK which makes sexual harrassment illegal (fair enough!) and as from Sunday, it will be the reponsibility of bar owers/managers to protect their staff against sexual harrassment from customers. If they fail to do so then the employee will be able to take their employer to employment tribunal.

So we wait in anticipation for the first £2m law suit on sexual harrassment of bar staff!

Surely it goes with the territory and if you are not strong enough to deal with it, then why work in a bar in the first place?

Yours truely
Mrs Not very sympathetic and Britain really has gone bonkers

333.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 11:35 pm

Quoting libralady:

We have a nice little law in the UK which makes sexual harrassment illegal (fair enough!) and as from Sunday, it will be the reponsibility of bar owers/managers to protect their staff against sexual harrassment from customers. If they fail to do so then the employee will be able to take their employer to employment tribunal.

So we wait in anticipation for the first £2m law suit on sexual harrassment of bar staff!

Surely it goes with the territory and if you are not strong enough to deal with it, then why work in a bar in the first place?

Yours truely
Mrs Not very sympathetic and Britain really has gone bonkers



LL does this apply to strip clubs too??? Seems like there will be an awful lot of lawsuits coming up!

334.       KeithL
1455 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 12:54 am

lots and lots of snow. Its supposed to be spring!!!!
Over 80 cm of snow in 2 days this weekend.

335.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 10:50 am

Quoting KeithL:

lots and lots of snow. Its supposed to be spring!!!!
Over 80 cm of snow in 2 days this weekend.



A tiny request. Next time you sweep your porch please don't do it eastwards if you're in the US or westwards if you're in Turkey. The snow you sweep away gets to Ireland! And I have just made a nice bed of plants

336.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 05:38 pm



337.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 08 Apr 2008 Tue 11:55 pm

Fenerbahçe - Chelsea

0-2

338.       bydand
755 posts
 09 Apr 2008 Wed 12:29 am

Ayla's name on the list of deleted users.She will be greatly missed for the work she did for this site.

339.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 09 Apr 2008 Wed 01:23 am

Quoting bydand:

Ayla's name on the list of deleted users.She will be greatly missed for the work she did for this site.



+1

I'm very sorry she decided to go. Hope she will come back!

340.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Apr 2008 Wed 03:47 pm

Diesel Fumes Help Clog Arteries
Researchers track the way particles trigger inflammation
By Ed Edelson
Posted 7/26/07
THURSDAY, July 26 (HealthDay News) -- Scientists say they've spotted the biochemical process that makes diesel exhaust so dangerous to human arteries.

An interaction between the fine particles found in diesel exhaust and the fatty acids in LDL ("bad") cholesterol activates genes that then cause inflammation in blood vessels, a team from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) report.

This process accelerates atherosclerosis -- a buildup of fatty deposits that can eventually lead to complete vessel blockage, according to the study in the July 26 online issue of Genome Biology.

The mechanism is one key way that "chemicals in diesel exhaust impact the cardiovascular system," said Dr. Andre Nel, chief of nanomedicine at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine. "We have done an analysis of genes that respond to those chemicals in synergy with the components of bad cholesterol."

LDL cholesterol is usually described as the bad kind because it is involved in blood vessel damage, in contrast to "good" HDL cholesterol, which works to prevent such damage.

In a series of studies, the UCLA scientists combined particulate diesel pollutants with fatty acids found in LDL cholesterol, studying their interactions with free radicals -- highly reactive molecules that can damage cells. They exposed cells to this mixture and then extracted genetic material from those cells.

Genes that promote cellular inflammation were found to be highly activated in those cells. Inflammation is well known as a contributor to atherosclerosis, Nel said.

"The primary implication of our finding is that for people who have cardiovascular risk factors such as high blood cholesterol, simultaneous exposure to diesel air pollution can enhance damage by enhancing inflammation in the cardiovascular system," Nel said.

The UCLA research team now is working to develop a test, such as measurement of a protein produced in response to air pollution, that could be used to assess the safety of people working or living in areas with different levels of pollution, he said.

Nel's work is an important part of ongoing research on the damaging molecular effects of air pollution from diesel and other sources, said Dr. John Balbus, chief of health sciences of Environmental Defense, a watchdog group.

"There have been lots of studies of inflammation," Balbus said. "This one goes down to the genetic level, and finds a pattern of gene expression that is particularly associated with diesel exhaust."

While such laboratory work has been going over for the past five to 10 years, epidemiological studies have also tightened the link between cardiovascular risk and exposure to pollutants, Balbus said. He cited a recent German study that found that living near a major source of pollution, such as a highway, was associated with a higher incidence of atherosclerosis.

"That was observational data in real people," he said. "When you put that together with the laboratory work, you have a very convincing picture."

"This study is more evidence of why we need to become more aggressive in cleaning up existing diesel engines," said Frank O'Donnell, director of Clean Air Watch, a private organization.

Chances that diesel engines will be used as commonly in the United States as in Europe, where they are found in many cars, are slim, because U.S. pollution standards are tougher, O'Donnell said.

"The real big problem remains the many thousands of diesel engines in construction equipment, old trucks and buses," he said. "The biggest bang for the buck would come from cleaning up existing diesel engines."

341.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 12:17 am

342.       kafesteki kus
0 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 11:47 am

Indian girl born with 2 faces worshipped as a goddess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Kmv-cg6Uc

343.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 11:51 am

Ouch! There must be something going on in India, I've recently read about an Indian girl who underwent an operation because well..check out yourselves:

344.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 03:03 pm

One of our Lib Democrat politicians has admited to sleeping with "no more" than 30 partners! How is that for honesty lol

345.       KeithL
1455 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 03:58 pm

Quoting libralady:

One of our Lib Democrat politicians has admited to sleeping with "no more" than 30 partners! How is that for honesty lol



in his life or since (he/she) has been in office?

346.       Capoeira
575 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 07:06 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting libralady:

One of our Lib Democrat politicians has admited to sleeping with "no more" than 30 partners! How is that for honesty lol



in his life or since (he/she) has been in office?



Does it matter?

347.       KeithL
1455 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 11:13 pm

only curious why this is significant in his country?

348.       karpusqueen
0 posts
 10 Apr 2008 Thu 11:21 pm

Quoting KeithL:

only curious why this is significant in his country?



Are you referring to the politician who's admitted to having 30 partners?

30 Partners!!!!! Bloomin' excessive if you ask me. His admitting to it seems a tad stupid too, given he's a politician . . . everyone knows all politicians have something to hide anyway

349.       geniuda
1070 posts
 11 Apr 2008 Fri 12:04 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

Ouch! There must be something going on in India, I've recently read about an Indian girl who underwent an operation because well..check out yourselves


This is another case..
I saw this in morning news a couple of days ago; It impressed me a lot. I respect other people's beliefs but how can they believe these kind of things are "miracles"?

Two Faced Indian Baby

350.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Apr 2008 Fri 05:00 pm

A group of young men, dressed as gladiators, on the underground in London! Not only caught my eye, but completely grabbed my attention WOW!!!!!!

351.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Apr 2008 Fri 05:02 pm

Quoting libralady:

A group of young men, dressed as gladiators, on the underground in London! Not only caught my eye, but completely grabbed my attention WOW!!!!!!



Actors? Fashion statement?

352.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Apr 2008 Fri 10:07 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting libralady:

A group of young men, dressed as gladiators, on the underground in London! Not only caught my eye, but completely grabbed my attention WOW!!!!!!



Actors? Fashion statement?



It must be the latest fashion craze....Gladiator Gear!

353.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Apr 2008 Sun 04:44 am

Stolen artefacts from Turkey
Artifacts stolen from Turkish mosques between 2002 & 2003 were officially handed back to Turkey today at The turkish Embassy London, after an on going investigation by the Metropolitan Police - Art & Antiques Unit & Turkish Interpol.










Istanbul Cezeri Kasim Pasa Mosque Tile Panel,Amasya Mehmet Pasa Mosque Minbar Door Wings,Istanbul Yeni Mosque Huner Kasr tile Panels

354.       incişka
746 posts
 13 Apr 2008 Sun 10:50 pm

art????

355.       KeithL
1455 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 04:55 am

Quoting incişka:

art????



that is just heart-breaking...
no man nor animal deserves to die this way...

356.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 12:51 pm

I wonder to what extent can artists use their right to shock and where the boundary between an art statement and a mere provocation lies...If I hang dead human foetuses on a line to make people think about the interaction of life and death will that make me an artist or a provider for deviated minds?

357.       lady in red
6947 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 01:05 pm

Can someone tell me what the last three posts are referring to? Obviously not thehandsom's last post but the thread is too long for me to wade through and look for it! (just out of curiosity following the three comments)

358.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 01:07 pm

Check out Inciska's link

Quoting incişka:

art????

359.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 04:14 pm

BULGARIAN MAN WHO SWAPPED HIS WIFE FOR A GOAT

caption reads:
Pictured is Elena the goat on the 6th April 2008. A luckless Bulgarian farmer who was been married three times has now married his goat. Stoil Panayotov, exchanged his third wife with Elena the 8-year-old goat at a livestock market in March - because she couldn't provide him with a child. The extraordinary deal was concluded in front of a stunned crowd in the market town of Plovdiv, central Bulgaria.



Pictured is Stoil Panayotov on the 6th April 2008.

===============
ps..up to here, the story is a true story..

But with an impeccable journalism, I managed to find below picture as well.


and this is her third wife:

360.       lady in red
6947 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 05:15 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Check out Inciska's link

Quoting incişka:

art????



Thanks - stupidly didn't realise it was a link. That is so horrible

361.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 08:14 pm

This..........



362.       geniuda
1070 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 08:34 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

This..........




Holy moly!! what is that?? is that an inflatable man? I think he has been over pumped

363.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 08:47 pm

Quoting geniuda:


Holy moly!! what is that?? is that an inflatable man? I think he has been over pumped


I don't know what you call it but I call it SCARY!!!

364.       geniuda
1070 posts
 14 Apr 2008 Mon 08:52 pm

now that I mentioned the word "inflatable" It reminded me of an ad I saw in a website about "inflatable male dolls". Sorry, but due to the content of such site, I cant provide the source link

"Don't you wish that you could inflate and deflate a man at will? It would be so much more convenient if you could just make a husband appear and disappear whenever you want. Do you want the windows washed? Inflate him. Want the bed to yourself? Deflate him. Need a date for a company event? Inflate a man with a tuxedo. Need the lawn mowed and the bushes trimmed? Inflate a man with a toolbelt. Life would be so easy!!"

ohh sure!! who doesnt?? that is why I am placing my order right now lol lol lol

365.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Apr 2008 Tue 11:14 am

Quoting girleegirl:

This..........





It's the stuff of nightmares!!!! Surely he can't be real??

366.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 12:33 pm

Red Ken vs blue Boris/ Ken vs Blond Bombshell for LONDON mayor.


I am voting for Ken but Here are some gaffes from Boris:

I am polymorphous pervert

Mr Johnson told a fringe meeting he would ban sweets in schools, but added: "If I was in charge I would get rid of Jamie Oliver and tell people to eat what they like." He said: "Mothers have been driven to pushing pies through fences. The solution is not to provide healthy stuff."
He later claimed he had been misinterpreted and thought Mr Oliver was "a national saint". "The BBC are completely wrong," he said, adding: "What I said was 'let them eat liver and bacon'."

told a fringe meeting safety seats for children in cars were "utterly demented", adding: "When I was growing up we all bounced around like peas in a rattle - did it do us any harm?"

"As a Scot, Gordon Brown will find it hard to convince people in England he should be prime minister."

"Supposing Tower Hamlets or parts of Bradford were to become governed by religious zealots believing in that system. Are we ready for complete autonomy if it means sharia law? I believe we should make people feel more British first, before encouraging more balkanisation and multiculturalism."

In a Daily Telegraph column, he wrote: "For 10 years we in the Tory Party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing, and so it is with a happy amazement that we watch as the madness engulfs the Labour Party."
Papua New Guinea's high commissioner in London was not best pleased by this comparison and demanded an apology.
Mr Johnson obliged, saying: "I meant no insult to the people of Papua New Guinea who I'm sure lead lives of blameless bourgeois domesticity in common with the rest of us."
He promised to "add Papua New Guinea to my global itinerary of apology".


Mr Johnson annoyed Portsmouth councillors by calling the city "one of the most depressed towns in southern England, a place that is arguably too full of drugs, obesity, underachievement and Labour MPs", in an article for the men's magazine GQ.
They demanded he apologise and visit the city. But the Conservative Party said figures backed Mr Johnson's comments and politicians should not criticise him for speaking the truth.

367.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 07:31 pm

What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!

368.       lady in red
6947 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 07:44 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!



A friend of mine's son is in the Ana Sınıfı (like pre-school) at the local school and the mothers are given a weekly list of exactly what to put in their children's lunch packs!! Not sure if this is to avoid jealousy or to ensure they eat healthily! But I don't know if this is the custom all over Turkey or just something they do in this particular school

369.       geniuda
1070 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 07:47 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!


Well, Lis lets not forget that there lots of mothers who really don’t know how to feed their children and they let them eat all those goodies they love. I don’t let my son drink sodas either, especially if it is Coke..he knows he cant drink it unless he has my permission. But honestly, I see many mothers letting their kids eat so much junk…which really makes me upset sometimes, but what can I do? I can’t tell these mothers how to feed their children. So maybe they do this at school as a general reminder..not exactly directed to you

370.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 07:55 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!


First they are telling you how to dress your child, now they are telling you how to feed your child? What's next???

How did your meeting with the principal go by the way?

371.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 08:00 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Elisabeth:

What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!


First they are telling you how to dress your child, now they are telling you how to feed your child? What's next???

How did your meeting with the principal go by the way?



My meeting with "the Man" went as expected. I told them what I thought and they told me that they understood....something about the greater good, blah blah blah....I basically just wasted my time but at least I got to vent a little! As for the Coke issue....I just feel like if you have something to say to certain parents, say it to certain parents. There is not need to be so passive aggressive and send out a note to every parent like we are all idiots! See, now I vented again....and I feel better...THANKS!!

GG - how about that David Cook last night on AI....WOW!

372.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 16 Apr 2008 Wed 08:43 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


GG - how about that David Cook last night on AI....WOW!


Offffffffffff!!! I missed Idol last night! I had a study group and when I got home, I found that my DVR had not recorded it (insert 'discussion' with my husband about changing the DVR settings when it comes to AI ).
I'm going to have to catch up with everything on YouTube sometime today.

373.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 12:33 am

Be careful with your salad

Popeye the Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog who was trapped in a bag of ready-to eat spinach on 15th April 2008. A Queensland woman who had bought a bag of pre-mixed spinach, from a shop near Queensland's Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, discovered the frog hiding in the sealed bag when she arrived home. She opened the bag and rushed him to the Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Community hospital, Where he was dubbed Popeye

374.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 12:33 am

what a beauty

View of Longtanhe River Bridge (or Longtan River Bridge) under construction in Langping Town, Changyang county, Yichang city, central Chinas Hubei province 14 April 2008. Longtanhe River Bridge (or Longtan River Bridge) is a high-rise pier, long-span continuous rigid-frame bridge with its highest pier up to 178 m on the Yichang-Enshi Section (within Hubei boundaries) of the arterial line of the National Road from Shanghai to Chengdu. The construction of the 1,360m-long and 196m-high bridge started in June 2004 and the time of completion has not been confirmed.




375.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 03:05 am

Renee Fleming: "The Inner Voice"

http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Voice-Making-Singer/dp/0670033510

376.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 09:22 am

Quoting Elisabeth:


GG - how about that David Cook last night on AI....WOW!


OMGGGGGG!!!!!!!! He was AWESOME!!!

377.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 10:27 am

Sinulator/pink Rabbit/teledildonics-Catherine Townsend


It wasn't the same as being together, but it was definitely intimate. I can see the advantage for couples in long-distance relationships. Absence may make the heart grow fonder, but it's a strain on the organs further south.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-810297.html
lol lol

378.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 10:44 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Be careful with your salad

Popeye the Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog who was trapped in a bag of ready-to eat spinach on 15th April 2008. A Queensland woman who had bought a bag of pre-mixed spinach, from a shop near Queensland's Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, discovered the frog hiding in the sealed bag when she arrived home. She opened the bag and rushed him to the Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Community hospital, Where he was dubbed Popeye



Cool, you get extra meat free of charge lol

379.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Apr 2008 Thu 11:53 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:

Be careful with your salad

Popeye the Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog who was trapped in a bag of ready-to eat spinach on 15th April 2008. A Queensland woman who had bought a bag of pre-mixed spinach, from a shop near Queensland's Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, discovered the frog hiding in the sealed bag when she arrived home. She opened the bag and rushed him to the Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Community hospital, Where he was dubbed Popeye



Cool, you get extra meat free of charge lol



Thank you handsom....I don't want to eat beef because of mad cow disease....I don't want to eat chicken because of the way they treat chickens....don't want to eat fish because of mercury poisoning...I don't care for lamb, Pork is out in my house..........NOW YOU HAVE PUT ME OFF OF SALAD TOO??? There isn't anything left!

380.       KeithL
1455 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 01:23 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

..........NOW YOU HAVE PUT ME OFF OF SALAD TOO??? There isn't anything left!



No fruit either!! But the good news, you will be a size zero in no time!!!

Black Widow in grapes at Costco

381.       geniuda
1070 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 02:01 am



382.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 02:53 pm

The Left and Europe’s Religious Roots

"CHRISTIANITY"

Pope Benedict XVI, the Bavarian Conservative Joseph Ratzinger, arrived in the USA today asking forgiveness for the pedophiles in the repressed ranks of the Church he largely fashioned: the reactionary, retrograde and still restive Roman Catholic Church. In America, as in Italy, in the world, his message is a return to the obscurantism of a bureaucratic religious order and more temporal power as seen in the Roman Church’s battle against divorce, birth control, abortion, euthanasia, stem cell research, same sex marriage and women’s rights. Centered on opposition to Islam, his major thrust today is the primacy of religion over the secular and its centrality in the roots of Europe.

(Rome) After a short stay in America some decades ago I told a German friend how glad I was to be back in Europe. He wagged his finger and said, “Ah, you Americans, you speak of Europe as if it were one place. Europeans think in terms of nations, of Germany or France or Italy.” Those were two opposed concepts of Europe. It really was that way once.
“Where are you vacationing this year?”
“Oh, we thought we’d go over to Europe … see the Old World.”

In those times I was a supporter of the still dreamy idea of European unity. But today I’m repenting. Not that I believe that old times are necessarily better times. But in this case I miss those old borders and nationalities each with its own culture, its own economy and I often wish that Europe was still a continent of separate, variegated and distinct lands and peoples instead of the globalized multinationalandia it is becoming … or has become.

Although many of the national differences remain, it is now quite proper to speak of “Europe” as foreign visitors once did. Today it’s truer than ever before that sometimes the non-European visitor can’t even tell one country from the other. The old tourist joke still holds: It’s Wednesday, so we must be in Vienna.

But Europe is not the European Union its dreamers-founders imagined. Not at all. Though it is a curious sensation to use one currency from the Baltic to the Mediterranean, to cross borders without a passport and drive from Rome to Amsterdam without international insurance, and in a way feel a certain sense of pride in belonging to a big idea, I fear the best of United Europe is in the past and that the worst is yet to come. For the present union is not the “Europe of peoples” dreamers dreamed of, but a union of multinationals and Eurocrats.

So how did it happen that the dream was shattered? How did it come about that the European dream—like the American dream—from day to day, from year to year, is more and more a contorted ungraspable nightmare for many of its peoples?

Their leaden feet dragging as if they were emerging from a coma, schizophrenic Europeans, overnight morphed into bewildered Europeanists, are suddenly wondering who they are. Though they admit that they are still first of all Italians or Spanish, or Germans or French, willy-nilly they have become Europeans, too.

That duality creates confusion, often more social divergence than political unity.

Now, Europeanist leaders striving for unity and Europeans of diverse political shades and nationalities, of differing levels of economic and social-political development are engaged in a search of an identity.

In a sudden obsession with pinpointing their common roots, one outdoes the other in propagandizing the results of their feverish soul seeking. On one hand, in order to convince themselves of the rightness of the United Europe edifice, Euroskeptical neoliberal conservatives and the Roman Catholic Church bemoan the influence of secularists-atheists-moral relativists and in the name of sacred “values” insist on Europe’s Christian roots. On the other, the increasingly emasculated Left, despite the low political clout their social programs contain, holds fast to ideas promulgated by the French Revolution.

The European

What divides the diverse peoples of the 27 member states of the European Union (EU) is clear to everyone. It’s the common denominator that is so elusive. That has always been elusive. Yet, though different languages, traditions, national histories, as well as multiple streams of Christianity, are divisive, there does exist a form of Europeanness. There is something in the European, whether or Slovak, Brit or Polack, that makes him unmistakably European.

I hesitate however to claim that such an identity is positive today because, in combination with the European passport and disappearance of physical borders, it nourishes the disease of Eurocentrism vis-à-vis the rest of the world. Though perhaps a less dangerous phenomenon than Americanism, this nascent Eurocentrism contains the germ of Europeanism.

Who Are We? Europeans Wonder

The extension of the European Union (EU) from the Atlantic to Slavic lands of the East, from Scandinavia to Malta and Cyprus—an area embracing 500 million people, with a Parliament and among 15 of its member nations a common currency, an enormous market, now the producer of the world’s greatest GNP, and a Constitution in the making—has accelerated the debate about the continent’s identity. Though the issue of roots is a social-political conundrum for all the peoples of the union, it rages especially hot precisely where you would have thought the issue had been resolved long ago—among the union’s founding members of the original European Coal and Steel Community of 1957, of France, German, Italy and the Benelux, the forerunner of the EU.

First of all, let’s dispense with a misunderstanding. The idea of a united Europe is not new. Many have tried to bring it about. It has been the dream of unifiers and conquerors, of Charlemagne and Napoleon, of the Hapsburgs, Adolf Hitler and the original founders of Russian Communism. Mythologically, the aspiration for union in Europe was born with Europa, the daughter of Zeus. Roman law arriving in the wake of the legions then hammered it home. Followed the Holy Roman Empire and the Renaissance—unifying ideas all—the French Revolution and finally 20th century ideas of social justice, which for the Left is the acme of the European Idea.

Though the European Idea of social justice was not powerful enough to avert bloody nationalistic wars —not even Social Democracy at its pinnacle— the long range idea of Europe, the conscience of Europe, has been an antidote against other potential degenerations of illiberal nationalisms such as Nazism and Fascism.

Individual Nations Or European Union?

Recent historiography has investigated themes of national identity and the historic roots of a common European sentiment. Historians continue to delve into analyses of values, symbols and images at the very roots of the tree of European identity. The attempt to reconcile the idea of nation with Europeistic aspirations was a constant of the historiography of Federico Chabod (1901-196. But even Italy’s great historian, once President of the International Society of Historians, noted that the idea of Europe has long suffered from a high level of utopianism.

Yet, though the same problems and dangers cited by Chabod continue to accompany unitary aspirations, the idea of a united Europe has never died. Today it thrives, but in doubt and trepidation. The central idea is clear: European mentality must prevail over the interests of individual states. It is therefore difficult to gainsay the growing Eurocentrism. It has always lurked in Europe, strong enough to be exported to America where the governing elite of European heritage is infected with a much deadlier form of centrism.

The Christian Identity

After such premises, one can grasp the reasons for the intellectual hyper-activity surrounding the Europeanness standing behind the idea of the union—the belief in a “European idea” as the glue for the amalgamation of the diverse cultural and political realities of the single states of the continent. The identification of that “idea” is the point. Until today this unitary aspiration has also been supported by belief in globalization, for participation in which a united Europe was a must. However today, in an abrupt awakening, confidence in the global economy is waning—foreshadowed by the French and Dutch rejection of the proposed European Constitution three years ago, thus undermining the unity idea and strengthening nationalisms.

Since then much discussion has centered on Europe’s Christian roots which the Right and the Catholic Church foster. Fausto Bertinotti, founder of the European Left Party (an all-European party founded in 2004 in Rome) and outgoing President of Italy’s Chamber of Deputies, writes in his recent book, The Europe of Strong Passions (l’Europa delle passioni forti) “The search for the identity of Europe has concentrated the discussion on roots, and precisely religious roots, leading however nowhere….

“We come from a tradition in which religions were considered a possible enrichment, also of a Socialist perspective, with the premise however that politics remains the sovereign dimension. We could not have imagined that the religious conflict, even in the form of war and terrorism, could on the contrary take the place of politics. In the absolutization of religion I note the tendency toward the primacy of religion over the secular dimension of politics, which constitutes per se the profound crisis of politics and its incapacity of configuring major options and alternatives of society.”

Thinking Americans will agree that Bertinotti hits the nail precisely on the head: the thirst of organized religions for temporal power. In Italy and Spain as in the USA, in Israel as in Iran, the result is the war and terrorism that religion purports to oppose.

Of the major suggested influences and inspirations of European culture, none is more powerful, yet divisive, than the proposal to make explicit reference to Christianity in the Preamble to the Draft Constitution of the European Union. The question posed is: Does God and Christianity have a place in the Constitution?

The Right’s insistence on stressing the Judeo-Christian roots of Europe is particularly significant in light of current tensions between the West and the Islamic world and the threat posed by the clash of civilizations on which the USA motivates its policy of perpetual preventive war.

Some say aprioristically: “Without Christianity, the heart of Europe would be missing.”

Or summarily: “Europe is based on its Christian heritage.”

Opponents of mention of God and Christianity in the basic document point out that reference to God erects unnecessary barriers in Europe which must be secular for it to be unified. Especially the Left proposes reference to Europe’s cultural heritage since it is pluralistic and defeats the idea of a single identity. A French Socialist sums up that “it is absurd to mention God and Christianity because it excludes Muslims and non-Christian faiths, as well as citizens who do not believe in God at all.”

Still, illogically and counterproductively, in many places the religious aspect prevails over other powerful influences on European identity such as the role of the Enlightenment and Reason, the technological and scientific revolution, the French Revolution and the workers movement. Moreover, though the discussion is transversal in nature, it involves in an evident manner, precisely as in the USA, the Right and Left of the political spectrum.

Chabod and the philosopher Benedetto Croce claimed, “Europeans are Christians and cannot not be so, even if we no longer follow the practices of the cult, because Christianity molded our way of feeling and thinking in an indelible manner.”

One objects to such simplifications, as would Dostoevsky who taught that Christ appeared in the world not to construct a civilization but to save humanity from existing civilizations. Bertinotti notes the attempt to substitute Christ with the history of Christianity, behavior which is more that of Christianists than Christians.

In this extensive and all-European search for the European identity the European Left Party steps forward to break a lance in favor of the multiple values defining Europe, especially culture and the idea of social justice, as did Antonio Gramsci in the early 20th century.

The European Left Party

Here I want to introduce the European Left Party (EL), an all-European political party and association of socialist, communist and green parties of 17 member formations and 7 observers. It was officially founded in Rome on May 8, 2004 by 300 delegates of 15 European political formations, Communist, Socialist and Red-Green. The first congress of this new and truly continental political formation was held in Athens in October of 2005. the second in Prague in November, 2007. Its first president was its founder, Fausto Bertinotti, who resigned in 2006 when he was elected President of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, succeeded by the German Lothar Bisky, Secretary of Die Linke.

Member parties are: Austrian Communist Party, Wallon Communist Party of Belgium, Social Democratic Party of the Czech Republic, Left Party of Estonia, French Communist Party, Left Party of Germany (Die Linkspartei), Synaspismos (Coalition) of Greece, Communist Refoundation of Italy, The Left (Déi Lénk) of Luxemburg, Left Block of Portugal, Socialist Alliance Party of Romania, Communist Refoundation Party of San Marino, United Left (Izquierda Unida), Spanish Communist Party and United Left and Alternative, all of Spain, Swiss Labour Party, Hungarian Labour Party, Freedom and Solidarity Party of Turkey.

Here, two pertinent observations that I will discuss in forthcoming articles: the European Communist parties are a testimony that neither the Left nor Communism in Europe is dead. Nor, in my opinion, is Social Democracy per se a bad word any more than is Eurocommunism. The latter was anyway much more than a negation of Stalinism. Eurocomunism was also a break with the political-social-economic stagnation in the USSR during the upheavals in the reign of Leonid Brezhnev, 1964-1982, when the role of Communism there was minimal. Despite geopolitical reasons and the Cold War pressures the USA exerted against the Soviet Union and Communism in general, the Soviet invasion of Socialist brother state of Czechoslovakia was for many European Communists the last straw. At the time of rupture with Moscow, Western Communists said, “the age of innocence was over.”

The European Left today is thus a step toward a “re-foundation” of European Communism and the primacy of a secular Europe over its religious roots. It is a reaffirmation of the thought of the theoretician and founder of the Italian Communist Party, Antonio Gramsci, for whom revolutionary violence is not the only way to change things. Political activity, he wrote, is the path to challenge the hegemony of the capitalist class.


http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/04/16/p24791

383.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 09:26 pm

Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..

We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..

384.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 10:13 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..

We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..



Glad you and everyone else is ok!!

385.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 10:18 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting teaschip:

Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..

We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..



Glad you and everyone else is ok!!



Thanks, Lis..

386.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 10:27 pm

İt must have been very scary Teas,glad that everyone is alright there .

387.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Apr 2008 Fri 11:05 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..

We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..



I don't sleep under anything that could fall and cause damage, and not near any glass, like windows.

Welcome to the earthquake zone.

"Although California quakes get the most news coverage, earthquake zones spread across the nation. The geological survey has designated 26 urban areas in the United States as earthquake risk areas; that list includes New York, Boston, Memphis, Chattanooga, Tenn., and Evansville, Ind. "

Scientists Not Surprised at Midwest Quake

388.       teaschip
3870 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 04:23 am

It's remarkable to me how the earth can move hundred miles away and you feel it. I can't imagine in California, it must be frightening.. It's also interesting how they can detect hurricanes, tornados, volcanos but no calculations on earthquakes..

389.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 04:39 am

Quoting CANLI:

İt must have been very scary Teas,glad that everyone is alright there .


Canli, I think you are such a kind person.

390.       teaschip
3870 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 04:46 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting CANLI:

İt must have been very scary Teas,glad that everyone is alright there .


Canli, I think you are such a kind person.



I believe she is as well. Even though we rattle her chains sometimes I think she is a very heartfelt person. I pick up on this through her postings.

391.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 04:52 am

What I like about her also is that she doesn't "gang up" against someone she disagrees with. She can fight with someone, and in another thread she sends flowers to the same person and wishes that this person is alright...

392.       CANLI
5084 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 05:17 am

Ohhhh,guys... thank you
You making me speechless

Although it took me while to figure that ''rattle her chains ''thing tea,i even googled it lol

Well,you can rattle it,but that is..JUST rattling

PS:have i got the meaning right ?!:-S lol

393.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 01:19 pm

A Chinese ship carrying arms destined for Zimbabwe has been forced to leave the South African port of Durban four days after failing to unload.

Earlier, a South African judge ruled that the cargo of rocket-propelled grenades, mortar rounds and ammunition could not be transported overland.

Human rights groups had petitioned for a block on the arms and dockers had refused to unload the shipment.

Some fear Zimbabwe will use the arms to repress political opposition.


Source: BBC News

It is good to read that normal folk are making a stand by refusing to unload a shipment of arms from China destined to suppress an already heavily supressed country.

394.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Apr 2008 Sat 10:17 pm

alternative to anaesthetics?

Hypnotist Alex Lenkei snubbed anaesthetic and sent himself into a trance before undergoing surgery on his hand at Worthing Hospital in Sussex.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7355569.stm

395.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 09:38 pm

The Ocean Conservancy reported that in a single day last September, it's volunteers picked up 6 million pounds of trash on beaches around the world.

The top ten items picked up were:
*cigarettes/cigarette filters
*food wrappers/containers
*caps/lids
*bags
*plastic beverage bottles
*cups/plates/forks/knives/spoons
*glass beverage bottles
*cigar tips
*straws
*beverage cans


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BEACH_DEBRIS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-04-15-16-37-05

http://www.oceanconservancy.org/site/PageServer?pagename=home


396.       KeithL
1455 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 10:06 pm

I have always been skeptical of hypnosis and this surely proves there is a place for it in modern medicine.
I found this really interesting too.

397.       geniuda
1070 posts
 21 Apr 2008 Mon 02:29 am

(advancements in science has always amazed me..but sometimes it scares me )

Are we 10 years away from artificial life?
In late August 2007, an Associated Press article put forth the claim that scientists were no more than 10 years away from creating artificial life -- and possibly as few as three. Could such a thing be possible? Scientists have made tremendous strides in decoding human and animal genomes, synthesizing DNA and cloning. Creating artificial, functioning biological organisms seems to present a tremendous leap beyond any of these abilities. But some of the companies and researchers involved in the quest for artificial life believe that the 10-year time frame is possible. Not only that -- they say that the development of wet artificial life (as it's often called) will radically affect our views of biological life and our place in the universe..........
http://science.howstuffworks.com/artificial-life-news.htm

398.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 09:19 am

A mother has given birth to a rare set of quadruplets in which three of the four boys are identical.

http://www.kcra.com/health/15921771/detail.html

399.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Apr 2008 Wed 02:30 pm

An amazing piece of research that tells us, women trying to conceive a child should eat toast for breakfast if they want a girl and cereal if they want a boy! Well I blew that one out of the window, as I nearly always ate toast (and marmite ) and I had two boys!

This sort of research really gets on my nerves, how dare they spend money on proving / disproving ridiculous concepts when it could be better spent on more deserving causes.

400.       magnadea
0 posts
 23 Apr 2008 Wed 02:43 pm

...the wonderful photo of Janissary. It is the most handsome picture I have seen of him

401.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Apr 2008 Wed 03:18 pm

Quoting magnadea:

...the wonderful photo of Janissary. It is the most handsome picture I have seen of him




Awwww! - I went to look - but he must have taken it away

402.       magnadea
0 posts
 23 Apr 2008 Wed 03:20 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting magnadea:

...the wonderful photo of Janissary. It is the most handsome picture I have seen of him




Awwww! - I went to look - but he must have taken it away



It is still there

403.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Apr 2008 Wed 03:34 pm

Quoting magnadea:

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting magnadea:

...the wonderful photo of Janissary. It is the most handsome picture I have seen of him




Awwww! - I went to look - but he must have taken it away



It is still there



Well so it is - now! Spooky - it wasn't there 10 minutes ago :-S - but I agree, VERY charming!!

404.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Apr 2008 Wed 10:09 pm

Obama vs Clinton on playstation

It could only happen in the USA!!! A violent playstation game Obama vs Clinton

405.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Apr 2008 Thu 10:19 am

Though libralady mentioned this earlier, but here is more tips about how to make boy or a girl:
(I like the first one in the list specially )

*In France in the 18th century it was thought that each testicle contained gender-specific sperm: so girls came from the left and boys came from the right. Men who wanted a boy were encouraged to tie off their left testicle during intercourse – or even to remove it.

*Girls are more likely to be conceived in the afternoon and on an even day of the month, while boys are more likely at night and on odd days.

*Female orgasms during sex are more likely to produce a boy, as the body produces alkaline chemicals after an orgasm, which are less likely to finish off the less hardy male sperm, which can then go on to beat the female sperm in the race to the egg.

*Men who drink coffee before they have sex are more likely to have a son, as the coffee perks up the male sperm but not the female.

*As mothers get older, they are more likely to have a boy.

*If you want a girl, sleep with a wooden spoon under your bed and a pink ribbon under your pillow.

*For a boy, only eat the ends of loaves of bread; for a girl, eat only the middles. Old wives' tales



http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/features/its-a-boy-the-science-of-gender-selection-814626.html

406.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Apr 2008 Thu 10:26 am

Libra, marmite?! Please! It must have influenced the toast diet and that's why you have two sons lol

I wish somebody had informed me about it before I actually conceived

407.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Apr 2008 Thu 10:32 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

Libra, marmite?! Please! It must have influenced the toast diet and that's why you have two sons lol

I wish somebody had informed me about it before I actually conceived


haha..
I should have tied my left testicle according to French..lol

408.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Apr 2008 Thu 10:50 am

Quoting thehandsom:


haha..
I should have tied my left testicle according to French..lol



Now I wish I had tied my husband's right testicle lol

409.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Apr 2008 Thu 11:04 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Libra, marmite?! Please! It must have influenced the toast diet and that's why you have two sons lol

I wish somebody had informed me about it before I actually conceived


haha..
I should have tied my left testicle according to French..lol



Well my husband didn't tie his - so it had to be the Marmite that led to us having 3 sons! Acutally, Marmite is the one thing I always ask people to bring when they visit us - I love it!

410.       magnadea
0 posts
 24 Apr 2008 Thu 12:55 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I should have tied my left testicle



I think Janissary would be happy to oblige you! lol lol lol

411.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Apr 2008 Fri 02:10 am

A seduction school in Moscow, Russia

The professor coaches his pupils in the art of being a sterva,which in Russian means, literally, "bitch". In Russia, where feminism is treated with suspicion and its practitioners often regarded as lesbians, being a "bitch" is not what many in the West would assume. A successful bitch is is neither strident nor sassy, but demure, manipulative and aware of her own sexuality in order to get her own way.


412.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Apr 2008 Fri 02:13 am

Vegetarian Festival

The Phuket Vegetarian Festival celebrates the beginning of Taoist Lent, when devout Chinese abstain from eating all meat. The festival takes place on the first 9 days of the 9th lunar month of the Chinese calendar. Everyone dresses in white and shopkeepers set up small alters with offerings of incense, flowers, candles, fruit, and 9 cups of tea to the 9 emperor deities honoured by the festival.

Thailand Phuket

413.       libralady
5152 posts
 25 Apr 2008 Fri 02:56 pm

Prisoners in British prisons have such a "cushy" number, they no longer want to break out. Instead, they have mates breaking in to deliver drugs and mobile phones. In some cases even prostitutes have been allowed in to
"service" the "clients" of Her Majesty's Prisons.

There is also cases of the prison being run my the inmates because the prison guards have lost control.

The unions claim this has happened due to the serious unfunding and shortage of prison staff.

Source: Independent

Maybe it is because there are too many criminals because the sentance does not deter the crime!!!!!

414.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Apr 2008 Fri 10:11 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

A seduction school in Moscow, Russia

The professor coaches his pupils in the art of being a sterva,which in Russian means, literally, "bitch". In Russia, where feminism is treated with suspicion and its practitioners often regarded as lesbians, being a "bitch" is not what many in the West would assume. A successful bitch is is neither strident nor sassy, but demure, manipulative and aware of her own sexuality in order to get her own way.




Handsom....it isn't too late to enroll your harem into these classes!

415.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 Apr 2008 Sat 01:02 pm

Nargile cafes - Turkish Daily News

Nargile cafes are asking for an exemption to the tobacco ban, fearing that many cafes will be put out of business.

416.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Apr 2008 Sat 07:15 pm

Egypt
Howaida Taha, 44, a documentary producer for al-Jazeera, has been arrested. She is still appealing an earlier jail sentence by a Cairo state security court that found her guilty of "harming the country's interests" in her documentary exposing how torture, including sexual abuse, is routinely performed in Egyptian police stations. Three crew members and an Egyptian human-rights activist were also detained. The new documentary Taha was producing was about people living on the edge of society.

Ms Magazine

417.       bydand
755 posts
 26 Apr 2008 Sat 11:28 pm

Quoting libralady:

Nargile cafes - Turkish Daily News

Nargile cafes are asking for an exemption to the tobacco ban, fearing that many cafes will be put out of business.


Yes a tobacco ban could have a detrimental effect on a Nargile cafe

418.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Apr 2008 Sat 11:45 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Egypt
Howaida Taha, 44, a documentary producer for al-Jazeera, has been arrested. She is still appealing an earlier jail sentence by a Cairo state security court that found her guilty of "harming the country's interests" in her documentary exposing how torture, including sexual abuse, is routinely performed in Egyptian police stations. Three crew members and an Egyptian human-rights activist were also detained. The new documentary Taha was producing was about people living on the edge of society.

Ms Magazine



Sad as many other things

419.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Apr 2008 Sat 11:52 pm

Quoting bydand:

Quoting libralady:

Nargile cafes - Turkish Daily News

Nargile cafes are asking for an exemption to the tobacco ban, fearing that many cafes will be put out of business.


Yes a tobacco ban could have a detrimental effect on a Nargile cafe


Actually,Nargile is very dangerous to health,so i hope that pan will eliminate it somehow
İ wish they elimimate it here too !

Many studies have proven that it is one of the sources for many diseases ,and most dangerous one is Tuberculosis ''TB''
Which became wild now because its producing new generations ''cat can explain this better''
and the only way that you will be safe from it while using Nargile is to have your own Nargile,''even changing the water wont keep the dangerous away''...which not valid in those cafes

420.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Apr 2008 Sun 11:53 pm

Guantánamo drives prisoners insane, lawyers say
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/26/america/gitmo.php


421.       Cacık
296 posts
 28 Apr 2008 Mon 11:10 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7368020.stm

422.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Apr 2008 Mon 12:32 pm

Pork farms in Turkey

I never knew they existed or that there was such a demand for pork in Turkey!

423.       Avalon
381 posts
 28 Apr 2008 Mon 10:45 pm

Impossible is nothing
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jjWtaTtiZEg&feature=related

424.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 28 Apr 2008 Mon 11:04 pm

Funny commercial on YouTube!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y9ajRIgTJNA&feature=related

425.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Apr 2008 Wed 03:22 pm

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

John Lennon

426.       magnadea
0 posts
 30 Apr 2008 Wed 03:26 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

John Lennon



The song caught your eye?
...or your ear?

427.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 May 2008 Thu 10:34 pm

Hunky Jesus
caption reads :
Competition is fierce during a San Francisco Easter tradition, the annual Hunky Jesus competition in Dolores Park on Sunday March 23, 2008. The tradition is officiated by the Sisters or Perpetual Indulgence, a group of drag queen nuns who are committed to social justice and LGBTQ community activism.


428.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 01:45 am

El Camino del Rey near Malaga/Spain:

http://www.brightcove.tv:80/title.jsp?title=1438490562

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/4/4a/20060626222619!Caminito_del_Rey_2.jpg

http://www.taringa.net/posts/videos/1179541/Mamita,-me-caigo-(El-caminito-del-Rey).html

http://www.abc.net.au/gameon/chasm/more.htm

429.       geniuda
1070 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 04:17 am

Quoting Roswitha:

El Camino del Rey near Malaga/Spain:
http://www.brightcove.tv:80/title.jsp?title=1438490562


Wooohoo! I am feeling dizzy already..that is scary!! I dont think I would ever want to do the walking the way the cameraman did it..

430.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 May 2008 Sat 01:18 am

We're not celebrating Israel's anniversary
The Guardian,

Wednesday April 30 2008



In May, Jewish organisations will be celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel. This is understandable in the context of centuries of persecution culminating in the Holocaust. Nevertheless, we are Jews who will not be celebrating. Surely it is now time to acknowledge the narrative of the other, the price paid by another people for European anti-semitism and Hitler's genocidal policies. As Edward Said emphasised, what the Holocaust is to the Jews, the Naqba is to the Palestinians.

In April 1948, the same month as the infamous massacre at Deir Yassin and the mortar attack on Palestinian civilians in Haifa's market square, Plan Dalet was put into operation. This authorised the destruction of Palestinian villages and the expulsion of the indigenous population outside the borders of the state. We will not be celebrating.

In July 1948, 70,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in Lydda and Ramleh in the heat of the summer with no food or water. Hundreds died. It was known as the Death March. We will not be celebrating.

In all, 750,000 Palestinians became refugees. Some 400 villages were wiped off the map. That did not end the ethnic cleansing. Thousands of Palestinians (Israeli citizens) were expelled from the Galilee in 1956. Many thousands more when Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza. Under international law and sanctioned by UN resolution 194, refugees from war have a right to return or compensation. Israel has never accepted that right. We will not be celebrating.

We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations.

We will celebrate when Arab and Jew live as equals in a peaceful Middle East.

Seymour Alexander

Ruth Appleton

Steve Arloff

Rica Bird

Jo Bird

Cllr Jonathan Bloch

Ilse Boas

Prof. Haim Bresheeth

Tanya Bronstein

Sheila Colman

Ruth Clark

Sylvia Cohen

Judith Cravitz

Mike Cushman

Angela Dale

Ivor Dembina

Dr. Linda Edmondson

Nancy Elan

Liz Elkind

Pia Feig

Colin Fine

Deborah Fink

Sylvia Finzi

Brian Fisher MBE

Frank Fisher

Bella Freud

Catherine Fried

Uri Fruchtmann

Stephen Fry

David Garfinkel

Carolyn Gelenter

Claire Glasman

Tony Greenstein

Heinz Grunewald

Michael Halpern

Abe Hayeem

Rosamine Hayeem

Anna Hellman

Amy Hordes

Joan Horrocks

Deborah Hyams

Selma James

Riva Joffe

Yael Oren Kahn

Michael Kalmanovitz

Paul Kaufman

Prof. Adah Kay

Yehudit Keshet

Prof. Eleonore Kofman

Rene Krayer

Stevie Krayer

Berry Kreel

Leah Levane

Les Levidow

Peter Levin

Louis Levy

Ros Levy

Prof. Yosefa Loshitzky

Catherine Lyons

Deborah Maccoby

Daniel Machover

Prof. Emeritus Moshe Machover

Miriam Margolyes OBE

Mike Marqusee

Laura Miller

Simon Natas

Hilda Meers

Martine Miel

Laura Miller

Arthur Neslen

Diana Neslen

Orna Neumann

Harold Pinter

Roland Rance

Frances Rivkin

Sheila Robin

Dr. Brian Robinson

Neil Rogall

Prof. Steven Rose

Mike Rosen

Prof. Jonathan Rosenhead

Leon Rosselson

Michael Sackin

Sabby Sagall

Ian Saville

Alexei Sayle

Anna Schuman

Sidney Schuman

Monika Schwartz

Amanda Sebestyen

Sam Semoff

Linda Shampan

Sybil Shine

Prof. Frances Stewart

Inbar Tamari

Ruth Tenne

Martin Toch

Tirza Waisel

Stanley Walinets

Martin White

Ruth Williams

Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi

Devra Wiseman

Gerry Wolff

Sherry Yanowitz



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/30/israelandthepalestinians




431.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 May 2008 Sat 11:14 am

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - The Turkish gunman who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II is applying for Polish citizenship and wants to live in the late pontiff's country of birth when released from prison, his lawyer said Friday.
Mehmet Ali Agca also wants to be transferred to a prison in Poland to serve the remainder

http://www.pr-inside.com/turk-who-shot-pope-john-paul-r569671.htm

Poor guy, Turkish prisons must really be terrible if he volunteers for death sentence...

432.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 May 2008 Sat 11:33 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - The Turkish gunman who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II is applying for Polish citizenship and wants to live in the late pontiff's country of birth when released from prison, his lawyer said Friday.
Mehmet Ali Agca also wants to be transferred to a prison in Poland to serve the remainder

http://www.pr-inside.com/turk-who-shot-pope-john-paul-r569671.htm

Poor guy, Turkish prisons must really be terrible if he volunteers for death sentence...


But he has a point there though : "Pope Karol Wojtyla, is my spiritual brother"
Citizenship should be granted, if you ask me..Please do..and take him away

433.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 May 2008 Sat 11:42 am

That's a cool way to get a citizenship, you just have to assassinate a VIP and then apologise. lol

434.       armegon
1872 posts
 03 May 2008 Sat 11:49 am

He is messiah, you can be cursed, be careful lol

435.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 May 2008 Mon 01:16 pm

Dogs, British and poor Natalie's titanic dilemma :

Dear Virginia, My much-loved dog died nine months ago, and after a while I thought it might be a good idea to get a new one. But now I've got one, I really can't bear it. After three weeks with him, I feel I'm about to have a breakdown. I can't go anywhere, and he's yapping and peeing all the time. The thought of another 15 or so years of this seems intolerable. Would it be mean to give him to someone else? Yours sincerely, Natalie


And the answers:

Phone the RSPCA. You were on the rebound from grief and made a mistake by buying a dog that you can't love like your previous one.

Unlike children, dogs can be sent back, and you should feel no guilt about ...

if you don't think you can love and cherish him properly. He deserves better than that.

It never fails to amaze me how many people take on the responsibility of a dog without thinking through what this demands of them

436.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 May 2008 Mon 06:55 pm

It's not so much what caught my eye but what caught my nose. I have a coworker that wears wayyyyy toooooo much cologne! YUCK

437.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 May 2008 Tue 03:07 am

Thousands more deaths expected in Myanmar
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/05/asia/cyclone.php

438.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 May 2008 Tue 03:11 am

Thousands more deaths expected in Myanmar
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/05/asia/cyclone.php

http://www.medievidenskab-odense.dk/index.php?id=56

439.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 May 2008 Tue 03:19 am

440.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 May 2008 Wed 09:14 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Dogs, British and poor Natalie's titanic dilemma :

Dear Virginia, My much-loved dog died nine months ago, and after a while I thought it might be a good idea to get a new one. But now I've got one, I really can't bear it. After three weeks with him, I feel I'm about to have a breakdown. I can't go anywhere, and he's yapping and peeing all the time. The thought of another 15 or so years of this seems intolerable. Would it be mean to give him to someone else? Yours sincerely, Natalie


And the answers:

Phone the RSPCA. You were on the rebound from grief and made a mistake by buying a dog that you can't love like your previous one.

Unlike children, dogs can be sent back, and you should feel no guilt about ...

if you don't think you can love and cherish him properly. He deserves better than that.

It never fails to amaze me how many people take on the responsibility of a dog without thinking through what this demands of them



I have never owned a dog, however how insensitve this may sound. I always thought a good business would be "Rent A Pet". You could rent a pet to see if it has the type of personality etc..your looking for. If not, you could return it instead of being stuck with it. Or what about the elderly, they say animals like cats etc. are good companions. But when the renter gets really sick and can't take care of them or possibly passes away. You could just send them back to "Rent a Pet" to go to another good home. Thoughts?

441.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 May 2008 Wed 09:40 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting thehandsom:

Dogs, British and poor Natalie's titanic dilemma :

Dear Virginia, My much-loved dog died nine months ago, and after a while I thought it might be a good idea to get a new one. But now I've got one, I really can't bear it. After three weeks with him, I feel I'm about to have a breakdown. I can't go anywhere, and he's yapping and peeing all the time. The thought of another 15 or so years of this seems intolerable. Would it be mean to give him to someone else? Yours sincerely, Natalie


And the answers:

Phone the RSPCA. You were on the rebound from grief and made a mistake by buying a dog that you can't love like your previous one.

Unlike children, dogs can be sent back, and you should feel no guilt about ...

if you don't think you can love and cherish him properly. He deserves better than that.

It never fails to amaze me how many people take on the responsibility of a dog without thinking through what this demands of them



I have never owned a dog, however how insensitve this may sound. I always thought a good business would be "Rent A Pet". You could rent a pet to see if it has the type of personality etc..your looking for. If not, you could return it instead of being stuck with it. Or what about the elderly, they say animals like cats etc. are good companions. But when the renter gets really sick and can't take care of them or possibly passes away. You could just send them back to "Rent a Pet" to go to another good home. Thoughts?



It depends, really, I recently lost both of my cats. I miss them terribly. However, I don't miss their cat box. Could I rent a pet for just a few hours?

442.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 May 2008 Wed 11:15 pm

The wierd world of body building

Where is Rain when you need him! This makes me want to throw up my dinner!

443.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 07 May 2008 Wed 11:20 pm

US advertises on Google to snare surfers

If you are searching the internet for information on terrorism in theMiddle East, you might come across the US state department.
Thedepartment is using Google's AdWords service to draw in internetsurfers searching for particular words - such as 'terrorism' - andredirect them to its own website.
In recent months, the USadministration has quietly been running the advert-isements for itsAmerica.gov site, which is intended to give foreign audiences theWashington take on US -foreign policy, culture and society.
Otherwords and phrases that trigger the adverts include 'Middle East peace','human rights', 'press freedom', 'renewable energy', 'food aid' and -apparently the most popular search the administration has paid for -'US elections'.
As is customary with Google's service, theadvertisements are geared to particular regions of the world. A searchfor terrorism on Google's sites in the UK, the United Arab Emirates andCanada yields the same advertisement for 'peace and security: creatingsecurity through improved relations and co-operation' and a link to theAmerica.gov page.
But similar searches on the Google sites in Israel, Egypt, China and France do not yield the same result.
'Weneed a very strong presence on the web; that's communications today,'says Jonathan Margolis at the Bureau of International InformationPrograms, the state department agency responsible for both taking outthe advertisements and the America.gov site.
'We are trying toengage, inform and influence foreign audiences. Before you can doeither of the last two you have got to find some way to engage them . .. We found that when you launch a website and if you want to attract atarget audience, Google ads are a very effective way of drawing peopleto the site.'
He says the state department is spending $25,000 to$30,000 (€19,000, £15,00 a month on the adverts, based on the numberof users who click on them, as well as about $15,000 a month foradverts for longer-standing US government Arabic and Farsi-languagesites.
He adds that the adverts for the Arabic and Farsi siteshave generated 300,000 views a month and that the US looks at theregions of the world in which to run the advertisements from month tomonth.
One focus is countries or regions with large expatriate populations.
However,as the US approaches the end of George W. Bush's time in the WhiteHouse, it has its public relations work cut out for it. Some 47 percent of people worldwide say the US has a negative influence, comparedwith 35 per cent who see it as positive, according to a poll of 17,500people in 34 countries released last month and commissioned by the BBC.

444.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 May 2008 Thu 04:40 am

ZIZEK! is both an unforgettable lesson in philosophy and a compelling portrait of an intellectual maverick. Possessing the capacity to appeal to the uninitiated in a way no other philosopher before him could, Slavoj Zizek’s combination of high and low culture will fascinate even those who once believed philosophy to be a bore.
http://www.istanbulmodern.org/images/newsletter/sinema/nisan2007/14-22/14-22.html

445.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 May 2008 Thu 12:32 pm

Alien Foetus
caption of the images say:
A German teenager who left a Halloween joke alien in a glass jar on the counter of an ice cream vendor was surprised at the uproar his prank caused when he heard reports on local radio. Police took the plastic alien to pathologists for checking. Initially the experts said the object could be a human foetus showing signs of deformity, but a forensic expert, on taking a scalpel to it, revealed it to be made of plastic.





446.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 May 2008 Thu 03:19 pm

Rabbit becomes mother to kittens has the ahhhhhh factor! Being a lover of all things fluffy, I could not resist posting this, even though it is an old story! This lovely little pet rabbit has become the adopted mother to 6 tiny kittens. Only animal lovers need look lol

447.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 May 2008 Thu 04:39 pm

Clinton now closer to endgame

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0508/p01s03-uspo.html

448.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 May 2008 Thu 07:21 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Clinton now closer to endgame

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0508/p01s03-uspo.html



Even though my pick is McCain..I thought I would never say this. I would rather see Hillary get nominated than Obama. He scares me!

449.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 05:45 am

Al-Jazeera Cameraman Freed from Guantanamo Bay

An Al-Jaze­era cameraman released from U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay re­turned home to Sudan early Friday after six years of imprisonment that drew worldwide protests.

Sami al-Haj, along with two other Sudanese released from Guan­tanamo prison in Cuba Thursday, arrived at the airport in Sudan's capital Khartoum on a U.S. military plane.

Al-Haj was detained in December 2001 by Pakistani authorities as he tried to enter Afghanistan to cover the U.S.-led invasion. He was turned over to the U.S. military and taken in January 2002 to Guantanamo Bay, where the United States holds some 275 men suspected of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban, most of them without charges.

Reprieve, the British human rights group that represents 35 Guan­tanamo prisoners including al-Haj, said Pakistani forces apparently seized al-Haj at the behest of the U.S. authorities who suspected he had interviewed Osama bin Laden, said.

But that "supposed intelligence" turned out to be false, Reprieve said in a news release.

"This is wonderful news, and long overdue," said Clive Stafford Smith, Reprieve's Director who has represented al-Haj since 2005. "The U.S. administration has never had any reason for holding Mr. Al Haj, and has, instead, spent six years shamelessly attempting to turn him against his employers at Al-Jazeera." The U.S. military says it goes to great lengths to respect the religion of detainees, issuing them Qurans, enforcing quiet among guard staff during prayer calls throughout the day. All cells in Guantanamo have an arrow that points toward the holy city of Mecca.

Al-Haj was the only journalist from a major international news organization held at Guantanamo and many of his supporters saw his detention as punishment for a network whose broadcasts angered U.S. officials.

Al-Haj said he believed he was arrested because of U.S. hostility toward Al-Jazeera and because the media was reporting on U.S. rights violations in Afghanistan.

The military alleged he was a courier for a militant Muslim organization, an allegation his lawyers denied.

By Mohamed Osman

The Associated Press
| Moscow News,№17-18 2008
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2008/05/journalist_rele.html



450.       catwoman
8933 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 05:52 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Guantanamo Bay, where the United States holds some 275 men suspected of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban, most of them without charges.


without charges?????

451.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 06:08 am

Turkey's born-again farmer
Organic food might change your life, but organic farming can change the lives of thousands. Nazmi Ilicali, born in 1953, grew up in the east of Turkey in the province of Erzurum, famous for its scorching summers and hard winters. Erzurum, one of Turkey's poorest districts, is where Nazmi's life has been spent enriching the barren lives of those around him.--Fazile Zahir

FETHIYE, Turkey - Organic food might change your life, but organic farming can change the lives of thousands. Nazmi Ilicali, born in 1953, grew up in the east of Turkey in the province of Erzurum, famous for its scorching summers and hard winters. Erzurum, one of Turkey's poorest districts, is where Nazmi's life has been spent enriching the barren lives of those around him.

First he trained as a teacher, and then he spent 25 years working in schools in and around his home town. After his retirement he found himself bored and at loose ends, and inactivity soon developed into such a serious drinking problem that his nickname around town became "Alcoholic Nazmi".

He struggled on and finally, with the help of his family and a burning new interest, he began to recover. Nazmi discovered farming, in particular organic farming, and the power of this raw contact with the earth and its produce pulled him out of his personal quagmire and led him to enhance the lives and livelihoods of thousands of other farmers in his area.

Nazmi is more than just a simple farmer, he is a born-again farmer with a zealous devotion to organic farming and a burning desire to organize other people around him to reap its benefits as well. As part of his rehabilitation he joined the Daphan Plains Organic Agriculture Project (set up in 1996) and grew to play a key part in the successful efforts of the organization.

He explains why, ironically, the poverty of this area makes it perfect for starting organic farming projects: "The earth in this area is especially suitable, because the local population is so poor that for years they have been unable to afford chemical fertilizers. The climate is good for organic agriculture, too. The frost and cold here even kill the eggs laid in the earth by insects, and because of that there is no need for pesticides - we have a totally chemical-free soil."

Soon after joining the Daphan project, Nazmi took a further step. "After doing extensive research, I decided that organic agriculture was the only investment with good potential in the east of Turkey. But I also knew that any efforts would have to be made in an organized way. When I first became involved three years ago, I brought 633 farmers together, and the European Community gave me the financial support to set up the Eastern Anatolian Farmers and Livestock Keepers Union. Now we have 3,000 members, and are still gathering members like an avalanche gathers snow."

Nazmi is the president of the union, which includes farmers from 12 different areas as members, and he has acquired a new nickname: "Organic Nazmi".

Each year he plans new measures to improve his union members' lives. This year union money will be spent on new farming tools that will be owned communally and lent out for poor farmers to use for free. Nazmi's new social conscience and sense of responsibility extend to all areas of his farmers' lives: "Because I'm a teacher, I place great importance on education. I believe that education is more important than profits. From now on every farmer should know how to use a computer and have an e-mail address. They should be able to communicate with their fellow farmers nationally and internationally. For those that want them, we are going to provide English lessons."

Nazmi's name and the success of the Daphan Plains project have spread worldwide. Last year the American Ashoka Entrepreneur Trust gave the project an award for "social entrepreneurship". This month a delegation from Japan came to visit, and Nazmi said, "They were very impressed. From now on our products will be found on Japanese dinner tables too."

Daphan produces organic wheat, rye, barley, white beans, green lentils, chickpeas and bulgur wheat. Its website, www.daphan.org, invites buyers to order the type of vegetables and pulses they want grown organically and, on signing contracts, Daphan will supply them. Next year in a new diversification the project will distribute 600 cows to its members so they can start farming organic meat and milk.

Nazmi explains that when they first started, the biggest problem they had was the packaging and processing of their organic products. Rather than allowing this to stall their progress, they built a small factory and made every member of the association a shareholder. The factory began to grind their own cereals into flour and package it. Their brand identity, sales and profit margins have all improved since.

The efforts of Nazmi and the Daphan Plains organic project are not just appreciated by the 3,000 farmers in the Erzurum area, the benefits stretch across the country to the urban sprawl that is Istanbul. The city council set up a program in 2005 that encourages rural villagers to stay in their home provinces rather than migrate to Istanbul. The Daphan Plains project and Istanbul council have recently come to an agreement whereby the council buys the project's organic wheat for the public bakery. Under the terms of the contract the city will take 10,000 tonnes of organic wheat, which will earn the project 1 million liras (US$675,00.

Kadir Topbas, the head of the Istanbul council, said organic farming projects had halted rural-to-urban migration in several areas around Erzurum. He underlined the importance of supporting these types of projects both locally and by the central government: "The government provides serious support to these projects. As a local council we have a five-year contract with the Erzurum area. We supply Istanbul residents with access to organic bread as a result and we plan to help these areas to market all their produce in the future. The success of these projects has resulted in more than 1,000 families leaving Istanbul and returning to their home villages."

Organic Nazmi is a happy man, and so are the people he surrounds himself with. Mehmet, one of his farmers, summed up the change in their lives by saying: "We go to our fields smiling now and breed our livestock with a lot of happiness. We are very proud of Nazmi and what he has done."
______________________________
Fazile Zahir is of Turkish descent, born and brought up in London. She moved to live in Turkey in 2005 and has been writing full time since then.
Source: Asia Times

"Power concedes nothing without a demand.' The struggle for justice must never be adjourned. The forces of injustice do not take vacations. Societies are not static in this regard. They await the political and civic energies of individuals who engage the arenas of power, multiply their numbers and emblazon in deeds and institutions the immortal principle that "Here the People Rule." - Ralph Nader

452.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 02:26 pm

Last diva Leyla Gencer,"La Diva Turca" (The Turkish Diva) and "La Regina" (The Queen) in the opera world, dies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla_Gencer
http://www.leylagencer.eu/bio_in_brief.html

453.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 02:46 pm

Quoting teaschip:


Even though my pick is McCain..



Now you scared me!

454.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 03:39 pm



Our Daily Bread We better get used to higher food prices. They will be with us for years to come – By Nikolaus Piper

Thomas Robert Malthus was one of the greatest pessimists of history. The Anglican parson from Surrey was not only one of the founders of classical political economics – he also gave the young science a decidedly dismal undertone. The working class would never be able to escape its misery, he believed. As soon as the lot of the poor improved a little, their enhanced prosperity would result in more children to feed. While populations would be able to grow exponentially, he stated, food production could experience only linear growth: a trap with no exit.

History has refuted Malthus’ pessimism. Capitalism is much more productive than the economist could have imagined. Nevertheless, there have always been Malthusian situations in which the planet’s limitations suddenly become perceptible and scarcity threatens the security and survival of millions of people. That was true in Malthus’ day, and it is true once again today. Food prices are soaring around the globe. The significance of this price surge for world policy can hardly be overestimated. The world is experiencing its worst food crisis in more than 30 years, says New York-based economist Jeffrey Sachs.

At the end of April, the price for a ton of rice surpassed the $1,000 threshold for the first time, triggering real panic in large importing countries like the Philippines. In Haiti, hunger riots brought down the government while Egyptian textile workers took to the streets demanding food; about 200 people were arrested. In Sri Lanka, food became 34 percent more expensive within a year; in Costa Rica, its price has risen by 21 percent; in Egypt, by 13.5 percent. The developmental progress of five years is being wiped out overnight, warned International Money Fund (IMF) Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

Countries dependent on food imports are facing destabilization, yet tensions are also rising in countries where the people are still able to feed themselves. Higher prices for rice, corn and soybeans may benefit many small-scale farmers in the developing world but the urban poor are the real losers. Among industrialized nations, the effects of the price spikes are more limited but hardly negligible. In Germany, prices haven’t risen this fast in 14 years and in America, inflation has exceeded the 4 percent mark despite the recession. Low-wage earners are especially vulnerable to losses in buying power.

There can be no doubt regarding the causes of the current food crisis. This time, the avarice of commodity speculators is not to blame. Perhaps one or the other spot price may be inflated due to speculation but the root cause is scarcity.

For the first time in their lives, millions of Chinese, Indians, Malaysians and Brazilians can afford to eat sufficiently and well. They want to enjoy the same foods Europeans and North Americans do. Global supply hasn’t kept pace with the extra demand. Also, economic growth in Asia is driving up the price of oil. Fertilizer and fuel for tractors are now so expensive that farmers are being forced to raise prices.

This bout of inflation has systemic causes and won’t disappear any time soon. Maybe one price or the other will drop if the recession in the U.S. is more severe than expected, for example. But the trend will go up as long as world prosperity continues at its present clip. Commodities are finite, as meadows and fields can’t be expanded at will, not even in times of burgeoning demand.

It adds up to a sea change. The abysmally low prices for grain, milk and meat used to be the biggest problem for development aid policy. Now it’s hunger. In many countries, direct assistance to the poor has become the first priority. Economists have calculated that, if rice prices climb 10 percent in Indonesia, two million more people there will fall below the poverty line.

In responding, many countries are making disastrous mistakes. Beleaguered governments are imposing tariffs or outright bans on food exports. Doing so can temporarily relieve domestic price pressures but it will exacerbate the problem for importing countries. In sum, that policy makes food even scarcer. Subsidizing staples and freezing prices lead to waste and siphon off state finances. The World Bank and national agencies can put know-how and specialized programs to use here. In Yemen, for example, the World Bank is funding a relatively efficient food-for-work program that benefits the poor – and only the poor.

The crisis is resetting the scope of action for policymakers. The consensus among European politicians and consumers who reject genetically modified foods remains solid. Yet pressure will grow to compromise and make way for more productive agriculture through genetic engineering.

The competitive environment for organic agriculture is also deteriorating. Until now, many consumers have been happy to pay extra for organic bread, meat, and vegetables. Now that food in general has become more expensive, organic farmers in the U.S. are beginning to shut down because business is no longer profitable.

Then there is climate policy: The surge in food prices has demonstrated that agrofuels from corn, canola and other agricultural raw materials are not a viable alternative to fossil fuels. Given current technologies, public funding of biofuels means that people compete against cars for scarce agricultural land. The U.S. government’s ethanol subsidies have contributed significantly to the soaring price of corn in Mexico and other Latin American countries.

For the EU, these changes represent an opportunity to abandon the disastrous agricultural policies Europe has been pursuing for the past 50 years. Today, preventing surpluses and propping up farmers’ incomes by creating artificial demand are no longer needed. Today, farmers earn their money on the open market. It is more important now to help countries like Haiti and Bangladesh with their agricultural development.

European and North American consumers, who for decades have taken for granted their abundance of food, must change their thinking. Ultimately, having something on the table – our daily bread – decides life and death in the world. Realizing how scarce bread and meat really are could prompt us to rethink our values and recognize that our luxury often comes at others’ expense.


Picture above: “A measure of wheat for a penny…” The third horseman of the Apocalypse in the Book of Revelations, in which John the Apostle envisions the end of the world, represents famine. In John’s day, a penny was a very high price for a handful of grain. What will our daily bread cost us? The illustration is Albrecht Dürer’s 1498 woodcut, “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.”


The Atlantic Times

455.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 04:45 pm

Anatolian Storms
To live like a tree single and at liberty, and brotherly like the trees of a forest, this yearning is ours. (Nazım Hikmet)

456.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 10:30 am

A web site
http://www.turkiyebarismeclisi.org/v2/
turkiyebarismeclisi=turkeypeaceparliment
Turkey needs this type civil organizations..
And they are planing a huge meeting in 1st of June in kadikoy with the slogans: 'we want peace now''we want solution not death'

457.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 09:48 pm

A man in Saudia Arabia has been sentanced to 140 lashes for having coffee with a women who was not a relative. They don't know what has happened to the woman. They were caught by the religious police!

458.       magnadea
0 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 01:17 pm

Quoting libralady:

A man in Saudia Arabia has been sentanced to 140 lashes for having coffee with a women who was not a relative. They don't know what has happened to the woman. They were caught by the religious police!



I have given up arguing about religion - it makes no difference to argue. I just laugh at all religions now

I am sure those those who defend their religion so wildly will be proud of this. Well done to the religious police! Islam is saved from the naughty man who drank coffee with a woman! I hope the woman was punished more severely - it was probably her fault for allowing 1cm of foot to be seen under her burka which enticed the poor innocent man and compelled him to drink coffee with her lol lol lol

459.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 01:24 pm

Quoting magnadea:

I have given up arguing about religion - it makes no difference to argue. I just laugh at all religions now

I am sure those those who defend their religion so wildly will be proud of this. Well done to the religious police! Islam is saved from the naughty man who drank coffee with a woman! I hope the woman was punished more severely - it was probably her fault for allowing 1cm of foot to be seen under her burka which enticed the poor innocent man and compelled him to drink coffee with her lol lol lol


Now that you are reformed you can come back to TC and begin to nicely praise Ataturk and his children land... See? It wasn't that difficult! Now we can be a happy, loving family... :-S (you are the queen mother, remember? lol)

460.       magnadea
0 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 01:27 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Now that you are reformed you can come back to TC and begin to nicely praise Ataturk and his children land... See? It wasn't that difficult! Now we can be a happy, loving family... :-S (you are the queen mother, remember? lol)



I was going to say "Ataturk is not a religion" but actually I am wrong - our dear Kemalists are proof of that! lol

FORMER queen mother actually!! I am enjoying a happy retirement from my throne in the sun hehehe!

The new queen is...... thehandsom

461.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 02:16 pm

Quoting magnadea:

Quoting catwoman:

Now that you are reformed you can come back to TC and begin to nicely praise Ataturk and his children land... See? It wasn't that difficult! Now we can be a happy, loving family... :-S (you are the queen mother, remember? lol)



I was going to say "Ataturk is not a religion" but actually I am wrong - our dear Kemalists are proof of that! lol

FORMER queen mother actually!! I am enjoying a happy retirement from my throne in the sun hehehe!

The new queen is...... thehandsom



Did we vote on this?? :-S I have no problem with the choice but it seems a bit undemocratic - unless you two are related of course! lollol

462.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 02:38 pm

Quoting magnadea:


The new queen is...... thehandsom



Shouldn't he be in Ankara right now


lol

463.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 03:13 pm

You beaches!!
(I was just eating my donkey friendly chicken salad..And everything got stuck in my throat now!!!!)

464.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 08:14 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

You beaches!!
(I was just eating my donkey friendly chicken salad..And everything got stuck in my throat now!!!!)



Is there a donkey/chicken war going on that I don't know about? lol

465.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 08:17 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:

You beaches!!
(I was just eating my donkey friendly chicken salad..And everything got stuck in my throat now!!!!)



Is there a donkey/chicken war going on that I don't know about? lol



I don't know, I'm still wondering what kind of sammich thehandsom is. lol

466.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 08:19 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:

You beaches!!
(I was just eating my donkey friendly chicken salad..And everything got stuck in my throat now!!!!)



Is there a donkey/chicken war going on that I don't know about? lol



I don't know, I'm still wondering what kind of sammich thehandsom is. lol



TURKEY!!

467.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 08:26 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:

You beaches!!
(I was just eating my donkey friendly chicken salad..And everything got stuck in my throat now!!!!)



Is there a donkey/chicken war going on that I don't know about? lol



I don't know, I'm still wondering what kind of sammich thehandsom is. lol



TURKEY!!

lol
You are so damn smart Elisabeth, I should have known of all things TURKEY. lol lol I was starting to think bologne.

468.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 08:30 pm

469.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 09:41 pm

I am on top of caliptrix again! Horrah!!

470.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 09:45 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

I am on top of caliptrix again! Horrah!!



Congratulations! Please accept this chicken and donkey sandwich as a small reward (sorry unable to send through forum post - I will pm you a token to redeem at your local McDonkeylds)

471.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 May 2008 Tue 09:54 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Elisabeth:

I am on top of caliptrix again! Horrah!!



Congratulations! Please accept this chicken and donkey sandwich as a small reward (sorry unable to send through forum post - I will pm you a token to redeem at your local McDonkeylds)



What, no fries with that? Its just not the same without carrot safe potato fries! lol

472.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 10:40 am

The truth is out there!!
(now listen to this music at the back ground while reading..
it makes it more exciting..you believe me )


Britain Releases its X-Files
Dear MoD: where is ET?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398784.stm

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

473.       Avalon
381 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 11:21 am

Quoting thehandsom:

The truth is out there!!
(now listen to this music at the back ground while reading..
it makes it more exciting..you believe me )


Britain Releases its X-Files
Dear MoD: where is ET?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7398784.stm

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

he might be at home,but who knows?maybe in Didim?

474.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 02:52 pm

CADILLAC STONEHENGE
caption of the images say:
Amarillo, Texas, USA: Cadillac Ranch, a public art installation spearheaded by the art group, "Ant Farm" - a group of experimental architects in the 1970's, was first created in 1974. The ranch, which consists of ten Cadillac automobiles buried nose-down (and spray-painted by visitors) at a slight angle corresponding to that of the Great Pyramid of Giza, was later moved to a new location two miles away. Both properties are owned by local millionaire Stanley Marsh III, a vocal supporter of the project...

475.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 03:04 pm

Tooth Tattoos


caption of the images say:
Tooth Tattoos the Latest Body Art Craze It would seem that word of mouth is spreading about the latest body art craze, tattooed teeth. The fad now sweeping America is heading across the Atlantic from tattoo artist Steve Heward who has designed a range of artworks for teeth known as Gnasher Tats. Heward creates the tattoos, which are then painted onto the back of peoples molars. Among the more creative designs are impressions of David Beckham, Amy Winehouse, Princess Diana, and even the Queen. Heward, who has been perfecting his art since 1979 said It's just exploded.The artist has designed his first set of tattoos for the UK market starting at £40..



476.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 03:36 pm

From a distance they look like rotten teeth. All I can say is WHY? Where do you come up with these things?

477.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 04:37 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

tattoos, which are then painted onto the back of peoples molars



One thing for sure - you can't tell those people they did noting to be more beautiful on the inside lol

478.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 04:58 pm

Ok, I have admit I am puzzeled by this tooth tattoo art. How in the world does the artist paint a figure on the back of a moler? Secondly, why in the world would anyone have this done?

479.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 05:14 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Ok, I have admit I am puzzeled by this tooth tattoo art. How in the world does the artist paint a figure on the back of a moler? Secondly, why in the world would anyone have this done?


Offf teas..
You have no imagination what so ever..do you?
How can you miss the erotic elements in this? phew!!!!

480.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 May 2008 Thu 05:18 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting teaschip:

Ok, I have admit I am puzzeled by this tooth tattoo art. How in the world does the artist paint a figure on the back of a moler? Secondly, why in the world would anyone have this done?


Offf teas..
You have no imagination what so ever..do you?
How can you miss the erotic elements in this? phew!!!!



So let me guess you would have Kate Moss put on your moler.. lol

481.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 03:30 pm

Supply and Demand
caption of the images say:
A dog in China has become mum to an unusual litter - adopting four piglets. The cuddly critter called Hei Zi, lost her three puppies when they froze to death during a sudden snowfall. During the same blizzard another villager in Hongdong city saw his female pig die of cold, leaving behind eight babies. So four of the baby pigs were given to Hei Zi, so the pooch could play mum. The unusual family have been flourishing under the dog's care, with all four piglets surviving and growing fast daily.

482.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 03:34 pm

Penguin wetsuit..


caption of the images say:


A penguin which went bald was given a helping hand by scientists who made him a special wetsuit to get him back into the water. Unlike marine mammals, which rely on a layer of blubbery fat to keep them warm in water, penguins reply on their waterproof feathers. But 25-year-old Pierre started losing his feathers and was soon too cold to swim. But scientists at the California Academy of Sciences took pity on the balding bird and commissioned him a special wetsuit.

483.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 04:08 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Penguin wetsuit..


caption of the images say:


A penguin which went bald was given a helping hand by scientists who made him a special wetsuit to get him back into the water. Unlike marine mammals, which rely on a layer of blubbery fat to keep them warm in water, penguins reply on their waterproof feathers. But 25-year-old Pierre started losing his feathers and was soon too cold to swim. But scientists at the California Academy of Sciences took pity on the balding bird and commissioned him a special wetsuit.



Handsom, you may want to consider getting one of these wetsuits now that you have had your hair removed at that spa!

484.       Leelu
1746 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 05:52 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Penguin wetsuit..


caption of the images say:


A penguin which went bald was given a helping hand by scientists who made him a special wetsuit to get him back into the water. Unlike marine mammals, which rely on a layer of blubbery fat to keep them warm in water, penguins reply on their waterproof feathers. But 25-year-old Pierre started losing his feathers and was soon too cold to swim. But scientists at the California Academy of Sciences took pity on the balding bird and commissioned him a special wetsuit.


handsom are you saying that after your waxings you get cold?

485.       magnadea
0 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 05:58 pm

The curious user name "ChinaEmpire"
For some reason I find it mildly offensive!!!

Maybe I should be GreatBritain as my next user name! lol

486.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 10:53 pm

Quoting magnadea:

Maybe I should be GreatBritain as my next user name! lol


I quite like this idea . How about GreatBritainExEmpire?

487.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 19 May 2008 Mon 08:04 pm

Quoting catwoman:

How about GreatBritainExEmpire?



Doesnt sound good for me then: ExSlaveryKolonialisticKingdomOfTheNetherlands

488.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 May 2008 Mon 08:07 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

How about GreatBritainExEmpire?



Doesnt sound good for me then: ExSlaveryKolonialisticKingdomOfTheNetherlands


not too flattering lol lol lol lol

489.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 20 May 2008 Tue 12:22 am

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490.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 May 2008 Tue 12:31 am

Quoting zhang ziyi:

An interesting clip with an awsome music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=949Wqix6TMM



The images come from the first part of the Moğol film that came out a few months ago. The film will consist of 3 parts, of which the first tells the life of Cenghiz Han. A recommendation for all who like historically based 'big' films!

491.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 20 May 2008 Tue 12:44 am

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492.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 May 2008 Tue 01:26 am

Quoting zhang ziyi:

I heard about this movie. I should finally find time to watch it. I also heard about Turkish-Monngolian realtions before a few times and I ignored it thinking that it sounded a complete nonsense. Turks I see and know look completely different and they behave different from Mongolians, I suppose they dont sound similllar as well. Is Turkish like Mongolian language?



As far as I know (have understood from history class ) the Turkic folks were a nomadic people that origine from Central Asia, around where Mongolia is now. The language is in the group of Mongollic Languages, that according to some linguists belongs to the Altaic Languages, the same group Turkish is often considered to be in. However, for as far as I know the language doesnt really sound like Turkish. It makes uses of the cyrillic alphabet btw.

493.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 May 2008 Wed 08:35 am

Partner-M has been deleted for spam???? Shocking!!!

494.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 May 2008 Wed 10:42 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Partner-M has been deleted for spam???? Shocking!!!



Astounding but not entirly suprising news! Do we wait for a new member, lets say Partner-N?

495.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 May 2008 Wed 10:51 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting girleegirl:

Partner-M has been deleted for spam???? Shocking!!!



Astounding but not entirly suprising news! Do we wait for a new member, lets say Partner-N?



Or another of handsom's alter ego's..thePartner?

496.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 May 2008 Wed 11:14 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting libralady:

Quoting girleegirl:

Partner-M has been deleted for spam???? Shocking!!!



Astounding but not entirly suprising news! Do we wait for a new member, lets say Partner-N?



Or another of handsom's alter ego's..thePartner?



497.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 May 2008 Wed 11:21 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Or another of handsom's alter ego's..thePartner?


Definitely not handsom. I am pretty sure it must have been freshman (Lifemate).

498.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 22 May 2008 Thu 12:49 am

Quoting libralady:


Astounding but not entirly suprising news! Do we wait for a new member, lets say Partner-N?


Oh LL you don't give the boy any credit. You know how clever these boys are with their identities!!!
I am sure he would come up with something far more cunning that would fool us all.......something like M-Partner!

499.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 22 May 2008 Thu 10:04 am

My clock - showing me it's 6.45 a.m! Why the hell can't I sleep longer?!

500.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 May 2008 Fri 04:42 pm

Most expensive house in the world
caption of the images say:The most expensive house in the world , mansion set to sell for £1117 Million in Kensington Palace Gardens , West London.

501.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 May 2008 Fri 04:47 pm

Missing Pandas
caption of the images say:
Pandas eat food at the China Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province, May 23, 2008. The May 12 earthquake killed five staff at the Wolong-based China Giant Panda Protection and Research Center. Three of 10 pandas that went missing have not been found.

lol

502.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 06:42 pm

A clever customs official at an airport in Japan has Mislaid Cannabis! during a training session. He loaded the cannabis into a randomly selected case and the sniffer dog failed to find it! He unfortunately forgot which case it was in and someone has left the airport with some nice fresh cannabis! I hope he enjoys it! lol

503.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 08:26 pm

Quoting libralady:

A clever customs official at an airport in Japan has Mislaid Cannabis! during a training session. He loaded the cannabis into a randomly selected case and the sniffer dog failed to find it! He unfortunately forgot which case it was in and someone has left the airport with some nice fresh cannabis! I hope he enjoys it! lol



Maybe it started someone's vacation off in a great way.

504.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 09:03 pm

Over the weekend I was fishing, yes fishing. Although I won't touch a fish..I saw a copperhead snake swimming with a fish in it's mouth.

505.       Avalon
381 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 10:00 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Over the weekend I was fishing, yes fishing. Although I won't touch a fish..I saw a copperhead snake swimming with a fish in it's mouth.

Does that mean that snakes are faster at catching fish than you,angler?

506.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 May 2008 Tue 10:05 pm

Quoting Avalon:

Quoting teaschip:

Over the weekend I was fishing, yes fishing. Although I won't touch a fish..I saw a copperhead snake swimming with a fish in it's mouth.

Does that mean that snakes are faster at catching fish than you,angler?



I guess so.. lol I did catch a 7 pound catfish. So at the end of the day, I was ahead of the snake.

507.       teaschip
3870 posts
 28 May 2008 Wed 04:22 pm

India's new TaTa car for $2,500. Do you know what this means? It means that if you think gas is expensive now, just wait until China gets ahold of this car. The Chinese will be buying this car in masses, therefore everyone will be fighting for gas. You think it's bad now, just wait.

508.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 31 May 2008 Sat 05:18 am

The pineal gland, which is in the geometric center of the brain, has been called "the seat of the soul" by Descartes. It is directly behind the eyes, hence the biblical saying "the eyes are the windows to the soul". Whether or not the soul actually resides there, or if there is such a thing as a soul is certainly a matter of some debate.

509.       lady in red
6947 posts
 31 May 2008 Sat 11:25 am

Quoting Roswitha:

The pineal gland, which is in the geometric center of the brain, has been called "the seat of the soul" by Descartes. It is directly behind the eyes, hence the biblical saying "the eyes are the windows to the soul". Whether or not the soul actually resides there, or if there is such a thing as a soul is certainly a matter of some debate.



Where did this catch your eye Ros? Have they just discovered this?

510.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 May 2008 Sat 04:10 pm


A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.

It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!

511.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 May 2008 Sat 09:48 pm

Quoting libralady:


A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.

It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!


Wow!

512.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 01 Jun 2008 Sun 04:28 pm

How could you NOT KNOW that someone was living in your cupboard!!!!!

A woman would know within the first hour!!! lol

513.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Jun 2008 Sun 05:17 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

How could you NOT KNOW that someone was living in your cupboard!!!!!

A woman would know within the first hour!!! lol



Blame the long hours culture of Japan!

514.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Jun 2008 Sun 05:25 pm

I am sad to see Janissary asked to be deleted Thanks for the nice goodbye PM.

515.       bydand
755 posts
 01 Jun 2008 Sun 05:48 pm

Quoting libralady:


A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.

It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!



Must have been difficult for a woman to stay quiet for so long

516.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Jun 2008 Sun 05:52 pm

Quoting bydand:

Quoting libralady:


A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.

It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!



Must have been difficult for a woman to stay quiet for so long



Hahahaha you are funny!

517.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Jun 2008 Tue 01:43 pm

Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China

518.       teaschip
3870 posts
 03 Jun 2008 Tue 04:20 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China



Tatoos, piercings...what are you trying to tell us handsom?

519.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 Jun 2008 Thu 10:55 pm

Arabs shocked by Obama speech

Barack Obama said he spoke as a
"true friend" of Israel [EPA]


Arab leaders have reacted with anger and disbelief to an intensely pro-Israeli speech delivered by Barack Obama, the US Democratic presumptive presidential nominee.

Obama told the influential annual policy conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Council (Aipac): "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."


Al Jazeera




520.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Jun 2008 Thu 11:03 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China



Handsom is that what you look like without your "human" disguise?

521.       Leelu
1746 posts
 06 Jun 2008 Fri 12:02 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China



Handsom is that what you look like without your "human" disguise?


that just hurts me to look at it ..

522.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 11:27 am

A sad indicment of how society has become so deplorable.

A 78 year old man is knocked over whilst crossing a street and he is critically injured and lying unconcious in the road.

1) the car that hit him does not stop
2) other cars drive round him
3) passers by stand looking at him
4) no one goes to give assistance
5) no one calls an ambulance
6) man on scooters pulls away from the side of the road, driving round him and ignoring him

He is still lying in the road, cars are still driving around him and eventually a police car stops and calls for the ambulance.

A video clip of this has been released to the public to try and shock the society into feeling guilty for their actions.

When people were interviewed in the street about it, most did not give a damn, not my problem!

I am delieveratly not saying where this happened.

523.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 11:54 am

Quoting libralady:

A sad indicment of how society has become so deplorable.

A 78 year old man is knocked over whilst crossing a street and he is critically injured and lying unconcious in the road.

1) the car that hit him does not stop
2) other cars drive round him
3) passers by stand looking at him
4) no one goes to give assistance
5) no one calls an ambulance
6) man on scooters pulls away from the side of the road, driving round him and ignoring him

He is still lying in the road, cars are still driving around him and eventually a police car stops and calls for the ambulance.

A video clip of this has been released to the public to try and shock the society into feeling guilty for their actions.

When people were interviewed in the street about it, most did not give a damn, not my problem!

I am delieveratly not saying where this happened.



That is truly awful - probably got a good idea where this was though. But why didn't you add to your list the person who was VIDEOING all this??? What the hell?? - was he/she hoping to post it on YouTube or something????

524.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 12:36 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting libralady:

A sad indicment of how society has become so deplorable.

A 78 year old man is knocked over whilst crossing a street and he is critically injured and lying unconcious in the road.

1) the car that hit him does not stop
2) other cars drive round him
3) passers by stand looking at him
4) no one goes to give assistance
5) no one calls an ambulance
6) man on scooters pulls away from the side of the road, driving round him and ignoring him

He is still lying in the road, cars are still driving around him and eventually a police car stops and calls for the ambulance.

A video clip of this has been released to the public to try and shock the society into feeling guilty for their actions.

When people were interviewed in the street about it, most did not give a damn, not my problem!

I am delieveratly not saying where this happened.



That is truly awful - probably got a good idea where this was though. But why didn't you add to your list the person who was VIDEOING all this??? What the hell?? - was he/she hoping to post it on YouTube or something????



It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.

525.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 01:32 pm

Quoting libralady:


It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.



Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours lol) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone

526.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 03:26 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting libralady:


It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.



Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours lol) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone



I have now found the news report!

CNN News report

527.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 05:49 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting libralady:


It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.



Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours lol) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone



I have now found the news report!

CNN News report



It could be one of the reasons people did not approach him was fear of law suites. There have been a few cases of "Good Samaritans" being sued by those they tried to help. In the US people are warned not to touch or move a injured person. It would have been better if someone would have made a barricade around him to protect him from more injury from vehicles.

It is very sad to see the vehicles passing him by. I think the TV society we have has made use all like passive viewers instead of involved citizens.

528.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 07:47 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting libralady:

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting libralady:


It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.



Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours lol) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone



I have now found the news report!

CNN News report



It could be one of the reasons people did not approach him was fear of law suites. There have been a few cases of "Good Samaritans" being sued by those they tried to help. In the US people are warned not to touch or move a injured person. It would have been better if someone would have made a barricade around him to protect him from more injury from vehicles.

It is very sad to see the vehicles passing him by. I think the TV society we have has made use all like passive viewers instead of involved citizens.



First thing, why did the person not stop who hit him? I hope the police find him / her. If the man dies, it is murder. Nothing to do with TV society, it is to do with people not caring, only thinking about themselves. People drive round this man like he was a wounded animal, not a human being. Don't these people have a conscience? I hope they watch this film and it makes them sick of themselves.

529.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 07 Jun 2008 Sat 08:45 pm

Australia:

http://www.rickgunnphotography.com/project.php

530.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Jun 2008 Sun 02:44 am

Global food prices:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/food

531.       alameda
3499 posts
 08 Jun 2008 Sun 04:22 am

Quoting libralady:

First thing, why did the person not stop who hit him? I hope the police find him / her. If the man dies, it is murder. Nothing to do with TV society, it is to do with people not caring, only thinking about themselves. People drive round this man like he was a wounded animal, not a human being. Don't these people have a conscience? I hope they watch this film and it makes them sick of themselves.



Of course, you are correct about the person who did the "hit and run". That clearly was a criminal offence. I was talking about was the rest of the persons who didn't stop to help

I have seen where a duck was crossing the street and people stopped, and someone got out to walk the duck across the highway. Different place, different reaction. Hopefully people will be reminded of social responsibility and be more compassionate towards the rest of the creation.

I have a rescue cat that was almost road kill, but one of the people on the highway stopped, another barricaded traffic with her car to prevent anyone else driving over the kitten while they rescued her. Again, different place, different people.

532.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Jun 2008 Sun 05:20 pm

533.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Jun 2008 Sun 05:45 pm


534.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2008 Mon 09:33 pm

EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annually in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.

535.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Jun 2008 Mon 10:06 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annally in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.



This is sooo sad...I wonder how much they get paid? Now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping with my 100% Egyptian cotton sheets.

536.       Avalon
381 posts
 09 Jun 2008 Mon 10:56 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting thehandsom:

EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annally in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.



This is sooo sad...I wonder how much they get paid? Now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping with my 100% Egyptian cotton sheets.

Teas it happens everywhere on this unjust world,in every underdeveloped,poor country children's abuse is on daily basis and it is damn outrageous...

537.       libralady
5152 posts
 09 Jun 2008 Mon 11:13 pm

Quoting Avalon:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting thehandsom:

EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annally in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.



This is sooo sad...I wonder how much they get paid? Now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping with my 100% Egyptian cotton sheets.

Teas it happens everywhere on this unjust world,in every underdeveloped,poor country children's abuse is on daily basis and it is damn outrageous...



There are two ways to look at this!

1) Unjust, cruel, abusive etc etc
2) the child labourer is a means to an end for a very poor family. With out their income they would be destitute

I know of initiatives where children that are working because of the poor family, the companies provide schools and other assistance to them. And by companies I mean western companies, for instance Walmart, Nike, Reebok, B&Q. The companies work with the producers/manufacturers to try and get more adults into work and become less reliant on chilren. It cannot be stopped over night, it is a process that takes time.

538.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Jun 2008 Tue 02:45 am

Horrific!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275713,00.html

539.       lady in red
6947 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 01:06 pm

Iran employs female firefighters

http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=19198

540.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 01:43 pm

They told she can not live more then 1 month..she is 5 years ol now

Little Heart


541.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 02:10 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:

They told she can not live more then 1 month..she is 5 years ol now

Little Heart




I dont have the words

542.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 02:26 pm

Quoting libralady:



I dont have the words



You may say only God can decide and know what is going to happen next..i imagine you feel sad for her, but she get the chance enjoy life with a loving family. She become source of fun for her family and teach them how to take responsibility...they learn as a family, in bad and good, they ll stick together just like they promised infront of God...

543.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 02:42 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:

You may say only God can decide and know what is going to happen next..they promised infront of God...



I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.

544.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 02:52 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.



İ think this is between you and "God" if you belive Him or not...

And the purpose of picture is not make anybody feel anything...purpose is sharing my feeling...

troubles makes families stronger, keep love burning..if they are family really...but if not, again troubles stop people from living in a lie...

And also to say "ah poor thing" serve a pupose...reminding you, you have a heart and compassion for others...science even not sucseed explain physical evolution, how far emotions

everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...

545.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 02:57 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.



İ think this is between you and "God" if you belive Him or not...

And the purpose of picture is not make anybody feel anything...purpose is sharing my feeling...

troubles makes families stronger, keep love burning..if they are family really...but if not, again troubles stop people from living in a lie...

And also to say "ah poor thing" serve a pupose...reminding you, you have a heart and compassion for others...science even not sucseed explain physical evolution, how far emotions

everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...



agreeing with AE here

Suffering makes you noble and glues family together? So all families should undergo compulsory trouble. Sorry, I don't see it like this. Heart and compassion because you go ah you poor thing seeing a disabled person? Heart and compassion means helping, not sighing

546.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 02:59 pm

Oh, and one more thing, if I was God I would hate to think that people give me credit for genetic disorders

547.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 03:03 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:

everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...



Frankly if my child was born with such a condition and you bleated "everything serves a purpose" at me I would punch you right between the eyes!

548.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 03:12 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:

Quoting libralady:



I dont have the words



You may say only God can decide and know what is going to happen next..i imagine you feel sad for her, but she get the chance enjoy life with a loving family. She become source of fun for her family and teach them how to take responsibility...they learn as a family, in bad and good, they ll stick together just like they promised infront of God...



Meaning, I am gobsmacked that you posted this story, actually posted the photo. You have no choice, your life is blighted, I am sorry but that is how it is. I am sure they will work hard as a family to lead a normal life and you may say, what is normal. I can't answer that. I am not sure how I would cope with this situation and please don't say that God is there to help.

549.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 06:51 pm

How the most powerful nation disabled itself
US: security’s bottom line

Just 15 numbers tell the history of the past seven years, in which a once wealthy and relatively secure nation near-bankrupted itself, pursued chimeras and funded chaos-causing wars that left it poorer and less safe then ever before.
Once upon a time, I studied the Chinese martial art of tai chi, until I realised I would never locate my “chi”. At that point I threw in the towel and took up western exercise. Still, the principle behind tai chi stayed with me, that you could multiply the force of an act by giving way before the force of others; that a smaller person could use the strength of a bigger one against him. Now, jump to 11 September 2001 and its aftermath, and you know the tai chi version of history from there. Think of it as a grim cosmic joke that the 9/11 attacks, as apocalyptic as they looked, were anything but. The true disasters followed and the wounds were largely self-inflicted, as the most militarily powerful nation on the planet used its own force to disable itself.

Before that fateful day, the Bush administration had considered terrorism, Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida subjects for suckers. They were intent on pouring money into developing an elaborate boondoggle of a missile defence system against future nuclear attacks by rogue states. Those cold war high frontiersmen (and women) couldn’t get enough of the idea of missiling up. That was where the money and the fun seemed to be. Nuclear was where the big boys – the nation states – played. “Bin Laden determined to strike in US” the CIA told the president that August. Yawn.

After 9/11, George W Bush and his top advisers almost instantly launched their crusade against Islam and then their wars, all under the rubric of the “global war on terror”. (As Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld pungently put the matter that September, “We have a choice – either to change the way we live, which is unacceptable, or to change the way that they live; and we chose the latter.”) By then, they were already heading out to “drain the swamp” of evildoers, 60 countries worth of them, if necessary. Meanwhile, they moved quickly to fight the last battle at home, the one just over, by squandering vast sums on an American Maginot Line of security. The porous new Department of Homeland Security, the NSA, the FBI, and other acronymic agencies were to lock down, surveil and listen in on America. All this to prevent “the next 9/11”.

In the process, they would treat bin Laden’s scattered al-Qaida network as if it were the Nazi or Soviet war machine (even comically dubbing his followers “Islamofascists”). In the blinking of an eye, and in the rubble of two enormous buildings in downtown Manhattan, bin Laden and his cronies had morphed from nobodies into supermen, a Legion of Doom. (There was a curious parallel to this transformation in the second world war. As historian John Dower documented in his book War Without Mercy, before Pearl Harbour American experts had considered the Japanese bucktoothed, near-sighted military incompetents whose warplanes were barely capable of flight. On 8 December 1941 they suddenly became a race of invincible supermen without, in the American imagination, ever passing through a human incarnation.)

Homeland insecurity
When, in October 2001, Congress passed the Patriot Act, and an Office of Homeland Security (which in 2002 became a “department”) was established, we were welcomed to the era of homeland insecurity. From then on, every major building, landmark, amusement park, petting zoo, flea market, popcorn stand and tollbooth anywhere in the country would be touted as a potential target for terrorists and in need of protection. Every police department would be in desperate need of anti-terror funding. And why not, when the terrorists loomed so monstrously large, were so apocalyptically capable, and wanted so very badly to destroy our way of life? No wonder that, in the 2006 National Asset Database, compiled by the Department of Homeland Security, the state of Indiana, “with 8,591 potential terrorist targets, had 50% more listed sites than New York (5,687) and more than twice as many as California (3,212), ranking the state the most target-rich place in the nation”.

In the administration’s imagination (and the American one), they were now capable of anything. From their camps in the backlands of Afghanistan (or was it the suburbs of Hamburg?), as well as in the murky global underworld of the arms black market, al-Qaida’s minions were toiling to lay their hands on the most fiendish of plagues and pestilences – smallpox, botulism, anthrax. They were preparing to fill suitcases with nuclear weapons for deposit in downtown Manhattan. They were gathering nuclear refuse for dirty bombs. Nothing was too mad or destructive for them. Every faint but strange odour – the sweet smell of maple syrup floating across a city – was a potential bio-attack. And everywhere, even in rural areas, politicians were preparing to run imminent-danger, anti-terror campaigns, while urging their constituents to run for cover.

So, thank you, Osama bin Laden for expediting the Department of Homeland Security, glutting an already-bloated Pentagon with even more money, ensuring that all those “expeditionary forces” would sally forth to cause havoc and not find victory in two hopeless wars, enabling the establishment of a vast offshore prison network (and the torture techniques to go with it), and creating a whole new global “security” industry to “thwart terrorists” that was, by 2006, generating $60bn a year in business, its domestic wing devoted to locking down America.

When the history of this era is finally written, Osama bin Laden and his scattering of followers may be credited for goading the fundamentalist leaders of the United States into using the power in their grasp so stupidly and profligately as to send the planet’s sole superpower into decline. Above all, bin Laden and his crew of fanatics will have ensured that the real security problems of our age were ignored in Washington until far too late in favour of mad dreams and dark phantoms. In this lies a bleak but epic tale of folly worthy of a great American novelist. In the meantime, consider the following list – 15 numbers that offer an indication of just what the tai chi principle meant in action these last years; just where American energies did and did not flow; and, in the end, just how much less safe we are now than we were in January 2001, when George Bush entered the Oval Office:

536,000,000,000: the number of dollars the Pentagon is requesting for the 2009 military budget. This represents an increase of almost 70% over the Pentagon’s 2001 budget of $316bn, and that’s without factoring in “supplementary” requests to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the president’s global war on terror. Add in those soaring sums and military spending has more than doubled in the Bush era. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, since 2001, funding for “defence and related programmes... has jumped at an annual average rate of 8%... four times faster than the average rate of growth for social security, Medicare, and Medicaid (2%), and 27 times faster than the average rate for growth for domestic discretionary programmes (0.3%).”

1,390,000: the number of subprime foreclosures over the next two years, as estimated by Credit Suisse analysts. They also predict that, by the end of 2012, 12.7% of all residential borrowers may be out of their homes as part of a housing crisis that caught the Bush administration totally off-guard.

1,000,000: the number of “missions” or “sorties” the US air force proudly claims to have flown in the Global War on Terror since 9/11, about 353,000 of them in what it still likes to call Operation Iraqi Freedom. This is a good measure of where American energies (and oil purchases) have gone these last years.

509,000: the number of names found in 2007 on a “terrorist watch list” compiled by the FBI. No longer is a Ten Most Wanted list adequate. According to ABC News, “US lawmakers and their spouses have been detained because their names were on the watch list” and Saddam Hussein was on the list even when in US custody. By February 2008, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the names on the list had ballooned to 900,000.

300,000: the number of American troops who now suffer from major depression or post-traumatic stress, according to a recent RAND study. This represents almost one out of every five soldiers who served in Iraq or Afghanistan. Approximately 320,000 “report possible brain injuries from explosions or other head wounds”. This, RAND reports, represents a barely dealt with major health crisis. The depression and PTSD will, the study reported, “cost the nation as much as $6.2bn in the two years following deployment”.

51,000: the number of post-surge Iraqi prisoners held in American and Iraqi jails at the end of 2007. The US now runs “perhaps the world’s largest extra-judicial internment camp” (1), Camp Bucca, in Iraq, whose holding capacity is being expanded from 20,000 to 30,000 prisoners. Then there’s Camp Cropper, with at least 4,000 prisoners, including “hundreds of juveniles” (2). Many of these prisoners were simply swept up in surge raids and have been held without charges or access to lawyers or courts ever since. Add in prisoners (in unknown numbers) in our sizeable network of prisons in Afghanistan, at Guantanamo, and in offshore and borrowed prisons; add in the widespread mistreatment of prisoners at American hands; and you have the machinery for the manufacture of vast numbers of angry potential enemies, some willing to commit almost any act of revenge.

Though there is no way to tabulate the numbers, many tens of thousands of prisoners, at least, have cycled through the Bush administration’s various prisons in these last seven years, many emerging embittered. (And don’t forget their embittered families.) Think of all this as an enormous dystopian experiment in “social networking”, a Facebook from Hell.

5,700: the number of trailers in New Orleans, issued by the Federal Emergency Management Agency as temporary housing after Hurricane Katrina, still occupied by people who lost their homes in the storm almost three years ago. They have been found to contain toxic levels of formaldehyde fumes. Katrina was but one of many security disasters for the Bush administration.

658: the number of suicide bombings worldwide last year, including 542 in Afghanistan and Iraq, more than double the number in any of the past 25 years (3). Of all the suicide bombings in the past 25 years, more than 86% have occurred since 2001, according to US government experts. At least one bomber, who died in a recent coordinated wave of suicide bombings in the Iraqi city of Mosul, was a Kuwaiti, Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi, who had spent years locked up in Guantanamo.

511: the number of applicants convicted of felony crimes, including burglary, grand larceny, and aggravated assault, who were accepted into the US army in 2007, more than double the 249 accepted in 2006. According to the New York Times, between 2006 and 2007, those enrolled with convictions for wrongful possession of drugs (not including marijuana) almost doubled. For burglaries, the number almost tripled, for grand larceny/larceny it more than doubled, for robbery it more than tripled, for aggravated assault it went up by 30%, and for “terroristic threats including bomb threats” it doubled (from one to two). Feel more secure?

132: the number of dollars it took to buy a barrel of crude oil on the international market towards the end of May (4). Meanwhile the average price of a gallon of regular gas at the pump in the US hit $3.88, while the price of gas jumped almost 20 cents in Michigan in a week and 36 cents in Utah in a month. As Memorial Day weekend arrived, a time when Americans traditionally hit the road, the average price for a gallon of gas in the state of California crossed the $4 barrier. Just after the 9/11 attacks, a barrel of crude oil was in the $20 range; at the time of the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, it was at about $30. In other words, since 9/11, a barrel of crude has risen more than $100 without the Bush administration taking any serious steps to promote energy conservation, cut down on the US oil addiction, or develop alternative energy strategies (beyond a dubious programme to produce more ethanol).

82: the percentage of Americans who think “things in this country have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong track”, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll. This is the gloomiest Americans have been about the “direction” of the country in the last 15 years.

40: the percentage loss “on a trade-weighted basis” in the value of the dollar since 2001. The dollar’s share of total world foreign exchange reserves has also dropped from 73% to 64% in that same period. According to the Center for American Progress, “By early May 2008, a dollar bought 42.9% fewer euros, 35.7% fewer Canadian dollars, 37.7% fewer British pounds, and 17.3% fewer Japanese yen than in March 2001.”

37: the number of countries that have experienced protests or riots in recent months due to soaring food prices, a global crisis of insecurity that caught the Bush administration completely unprepared. In the last year, the price of wheat has risen by 130%, of rice by 74%, of soya by 87%, and of corn by 31%.

0: the number of terrorist attacks by al-Qaida or similar groups inside the United States since 11 September 2001.

So consider the homeland secure. Mission accomplished.

One last figure, representative of the ultimate insecurity that, by conscious omission as well as commission, the Bush administration has left a harried future to deal with. That number is 387. Scientists at the Mauna Loa observatory in Hawaii have just released new information on carbon dioxide, the major greenhouse gas, in the atmosphere, and it’s at a record high of 387 parts per million, “up almost 40% since the industrial revolution and the highest for at least the last 650,000 years”. Its rate of increase is on the rise as well. Behind all these figures lurks a potential world of insecurity with which this country has not yet come to grips.
http://mondediplo.com/2008/06/06ussecurity

550.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 08:12 pm

Quoting avaloncraven:

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.



İ think this is between you and "God" if you belive Him or not...

And the purpose of picture is not make anybody feel anything...purpose is sharing my feeling...

troubles makes families stronger, keep love burning..if they are family really...but if not, again troubles stop people from living in a lie...

And also to say "ah poor thing" serve a pupose...reminding you, you have a heart and compassion for others...science even not sucseed explain physical evolution, how far emotions

everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...



I understand what you are saying..and I do believe for whatever crazy purpose, there is one.

551.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 09:19 pm

552.       lady in red
6947 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 09:28 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Is there a God? The continous warfare against the Palestinians people.

Unnecessary; Dresden atrocities



Ros - these pictures are a rather graphic for TC. Could I ask you to remove them and just post the links please?

Thanks.

553.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 09:35 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Bombings
Why do so many people hate the USA? Dropping bombs on people really pisses them off!
The USA has bombed the following nations since the end of WW2.

China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1965-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvadore 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Iraq 1991-2002
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yogoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001
Iraq 2003
A few of these may have been justified, most were very questionable.
(Original from Australian Options Quarterly No. 31, Summer 2002.)



Some were justified and some were questionablie..I agree.
However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.

554.       geniuda
1070 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 09:49 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Roswitha:

Is there a God? The continous warfare against the Palestinians people.

Unnecessary; Dresden atrocities



Ros - these pictures are a rather graphic for TC. Could I ask you to remove them and just post the links please?

Thanks.


I totally agree...too bad I didnt have a choice to either view them or not..they just popped out on my screen when I opened this thread's page

555.       bod
5999 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 10:27 pm

Quoting teaschip:

However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.



Oh how I wish we lived in such a simplistic world!!!

556.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 10:38 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting teaschip:

However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.



Oh how I wish we lived in such a simplistic world!!!



Too bad we don't.

557.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 11 Jun 2008 Wed 10:49 pm

Quoting teaschip:



if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan.



Do you mean America stopped the Germans with nuclear bombs???

558.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 04:36 am

Quoting bod:

Quoting teaschip:

However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.



Oh how I wish we lived in such a simplistic world!!!



A little known historic fact about Japan/US relations is this fact:

Admiral Perry's Black Ships

First visit, 1852-1853

In 1852, Perry embarked from Norfolk, Virginia for Japan, in command of a squadron in search of a Japanese trade treaty. Aboard a black-hulled steam frigate, he ported Mississippi, Plymouth, Saratoga, and Susquehanna at Uraga Harbor near Edo (modern Tokyo bay) on July 8, 1853. His actions at this crucial juncture were informed by a careful study of Japan's previous contacts with Western ships and what could be known about the Japanese hierarchical culture. He was met by representatives of the Tokugawa Shogunate who told him to proceed to Nagasaki, where there was limited trade with the Netherlands and which was the only Japanese port open to foreigners at that time (see Sakoku). Perry refused to leave and demanded permission to present a letter from President Millard Fillmore, threatening force if he was denied. The Japanese military forces could not resist Perry's modern weaponry; the 'Black Ships' would then become, in Japan, a threatening symbol of Western technology.

The Japanese government let Perry come ashore to avoid a naval bombardment. Perry landed at Kurihama (in modern-day Yokosuka) on July 14, 1853 presented the letter to delegates present, and left for the Chinese coast, promising to return for a reply.
>--------------------------------------------------------<

Not exactly the type of action that plants love in the hearts of citizens of another country. Why we can't be more diplomatic?

559.       avaloncraven
183 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 07:51 am

İSKOÇ GELİNİN ARNAVUT İNADI
İmam nikahlı eşinden 5 kızı bulunan 39 yaşındaki garson, 2 yıl önce Didim'de tanışıp evlendiği İskoç May Cook'tan boşanmak istiyor ama başaramıyor. Hikayenin gerisini ondan dinleyelim:'May çok genç görünüyordu, bana bir erkek evlat verebileceğini düşÃ¼ndüm. Yaşını benden gizledi, 65 yaşında olduğunu evlendikten 6 ay sonra öğrendim. Boşanmak istedim fakat kendisini ikna edemedim. Aksine dinimi değiştirip kendisiyle İskoçya'ya gitmemi istedi. ‘Benim kölem olacaksın’ diyordu...'
==========================================================
persistence of scottish bride

39 old waiter who has 5 daughter form his religiously married wife ( mean no government paper and if you check him he ll look like single ) wants to divorce from scottish May Cook which he met at didim and get merried..he says

May was looking very young but 6 month afther marriage i learn she is 69 y.o...i wanted to divorce but could not persuade her...she asked me change my religion and go to scothland with her...she was telling me you ll be my slave...



560.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 10:07 am

This is a 'close shave'!!

a heart-attack victim came alive in the operating theatre as doctors were about to remove his organs for transplant.

The 45-year-old man owes his life to the fact that surgeons authorised to remove organs for transplant operations were not immediately available.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/dead-patient-comes-around-as--organs-are-about-to-be-removed-845140.html

561.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 03:46 pm

What an article and thank you for posting it, thehandsome.

562.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 03:50 pm

Gaddafi warns Obama against 'inferiority complex'
Wed 11 Jun 2008, 20:28 GMT

[-] Text [+] TRIPOLI, June 11 (Reuters) - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said on Wednesday U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would have an "inferiority complex" because he is black and if elected he might "behave worse than whites."

"We fear that Obama will feel that, because he is black with an inferiority complex, this will make him behave worse than the whites," Gaddafi told a rally at a former U.S. military base on the outskirts of the Libyan capital Tripoli.

"This will be a tragedy," Gaddafi said. "We tell him to be proud of himself as a black and feel that all Africa is behind him because if he sticks to this inferiority complex he will have a worse foreign policy than the whites had in the past."

He was speaking before thousands of cheering supporters at a ceremony to celebrate the 38th anniversary of the departure of U.S. troops from Libya.

Gaddafi, known for his controversial statements, took power in 1969 in a military coup in his oil- and gas-rich North African state. He was shunned for decades by the West, which accused him of supporting terrorism.

His ties with Western countries have improved since Libya announced it was scrapping weapons of mass destruction programs in 2003 and agreed to pay compensation for families of victims of bombings of U.S. and French airliners.

Obama, the son of a Kenyan father and a white mother from Kansas, would be the first African American elected U.S. president. In his campaign he has largely eschewed the rhetoric of racial struggle and drawn support among blacks and whites.

Gaddafi said Obama should adopt a policy of supporting poor and weak peoples such as the Palestinians and be a friend of what he called free Arab peoples rather than U.S. "agents" in the Arab world who, he said, were hated by their own people.

"We still hope he will be proud of Africa and change America and free America of its past policy, namely with the Arabs," said Gaddafi.

Gaddafi saw a dark motive behind a recent speech by Obama in support of Israel. "Obama offered $300 billion in aid to Israel and more military support. He avoided talking about Israel's nuclear weapons," he said.

"We suspect he may fear being killed by Israeli agents and meet the same fate as (assassinated former U.S. President John Fitzgerald) Kennedy when he promised to look into Israel's nuclear program," Gaddafi said.

While the existence of Israeli nuclear weapons is widely assumed, Israeli officials have never admitted their existence and U.S. officials have stuck to that line in public. (Reporting by Lamine Ghanmi; Editing by Tom Pfeiffer and David Storey)

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563.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 09:04 pm

peacetrain... :-S

welcome back...

564.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 10:04 pm

Quoting catwoman:

peacetrain... :-S

welcome back...



565.       geniuda
1070 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 10:19 pm

offfffffffff

I just came back from the gas station, it took 95USdlls to fill my car's gas tank... this is outrageous!!!!!!!!

soon..


566.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 10:22 pm

Quoting geniuda:

offfffffffff

today...95USdlls to fill my car's gas tank... this is outrageous!!!!!!!!


What the hell are you driving!!! A hummer? lol

567.       geniuda
1070 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 10:26 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting geniuda:

offfffffffff

today...95USdlls to fill my car's gas tank... this is outrageous!!!!!!!!


What the hell are you driving!!! A hummer? lol


I wish!!! lol

but no, it is a Ford Explorer

568.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 10:55 pm

Love my little Toyota....$40 to fill it and it lasts about 2 weeks.....yes, it is twice as expensive as it was before the gas prices went up....but at least I don't need to take out a small loan to fill it up.

569.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 11:23 pm

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting geniuda:

offfffffffff

today...95USdlls to fill my car's gas tank... this is outrageous!!!!!!!!


What the hell are you driving!!! A hummer? lol


I wish!!! lol

but no, it is a Ford Explorer



How many litres is that? Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in

570.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 11:41 pm

Quoting libralady:

How many litres is that? Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in


What kind of car are you driving? Gas here is about $4 a gallon..

571.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 Jun 2008 Thu 11:45 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting libralady:

How many litres is that? Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in


What kind of car are you driving? Gas here is about $4 a gallon..



BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!

But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.

572.       Avalon
381 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 01:12 am

suicide watch in case of paparazzi waiting for suicide of Amy Winehouse..hope she will not be tempted to it

573.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 02:01 pm

Quoting Avalon:

suicide watch in case of paparazzi waiting for suicide of Amy Winehouse..hope she will not be tempted to it



What? Where did you see this? The paparazzi are enough to drive the most balanced person to suicide or drink or drugs! See someone down and just kick thema bit more, to make they don't get up! Or if they are not down, how can we get them down??????

574.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 02:14 pm

Quoting libralady:

BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!

But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.


OMG, so there's no sanity in these measurements, is there!
Somehow it really doesn't make sense that a car with a 3 liter engine would make 45 miles on a gallon of gas. lol I think only Prius can do that!

575.       bydand
755 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 02:43 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting libralady:

BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!

But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.


OMG, so there's no sanity in these measurements, is there!
Somehow it really doesn't make sense that a car with a 3 liter engine would make 45 miles on a gallon of gas. lol I think only Prius can do that!



I think 1 UK gallon is about 1.2 US gallons. How far you can go on a gallon of petrol depends on the driver and the road conditions.

576.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 02:48 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting libralady:

BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!

But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.


OMG, so there's no sanity in these measurements, is there!
Somehow it really doesn't make sense that a car with a 3 liter engine would make 45 miles on a gallon of gas. lol I think only Prius can do that!



It is a 2 litre engine, 3 series is just the style! I actually drive like a formula one driver and I still get 45 to the gallon! If I drove sedately like (dare I saw it) a woman should, then I would propably get more 50+ lol

577.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 02:53 pm

Quoting libralady:


Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in



That explains why people from Northern Ireland use petrol stations here - petrol is 1.3 euro and diesel 1.4 per litre

578.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 10:29 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting libralady:


Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in



That explains why people from Northern Ireland use petrol stations here - petrol is 1.3 euro and diesel 1.4 per litre



How long have you been using the Euro in Northern Ireland, it is part of Great Britain. I thought it was just Eire that uses the Euro. But that works out a little bit cheaper with with an exchange rate of about €1.23 ish to £1.

579.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 12:05 am

German Toymaker Launches Barack Obama Doll
By David Gordon Smith

A German toymaker has paid the ultimate tribute to presidential hopeful Barack Obama by immortalizing him in the form of a collector's doll. But the maker of the mini-Obama admits that it was tricky to get the skin tone correct.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,558768,00.html



580.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 04:59 am

Always wanted to go there, maybe in my next life:

http://www.etereaestudios.com/movies/isfahan_movies/isfahan_mov_youtube.htm

581.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 10:44 am

Quoting libralady:

Quoting Daydreamer:



That explains why people from Northern Ireland use petrol stations here - petrol is 1.3 euro and diesel 1.4 per litre



How long have you been using the Euro in Northern Ireland, it is part of Great Britain. I thought it was just Eire that uses the Euro. But that works out a little bit cheaper with with an exchange rate of about €1.23 ish to £1.



I am in Eire, I meant that the folks from Northern Ireland (that still uses GBP) buy petrol here, that is in Eire Sorry for not being clear about it! In return we shop in their Argos. Imagine that - prams can get as much as 200e cheaper there (in NI) than here!

582.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:35 am

I logged on a Polish site similar to Facebook and saw that Poland is obsessed with Howard Webb (the referee that ruled a penalty in Austria's favour in the Poland-Austria game in the 91st minute). I know next to nothing about football so it's not up to me to decide if that was just or not, but the hatred towards that poor guy is so great that he was given police protection! Googling on, I found this site that is a collection of photoshop caricatures of Webb (most of captions in Polish) and his alleged selling of the game. Here's a sample:




Seems we finally have an enemy on our own lol

583.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 02:20 am

How can anybody take photos in such a serious life and death situation:

http://www.funonthenet.in/forums/index.php?topic=80293.new;topicseen

584.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 09:30 am

Quoting Roswitha:

How can anybody take photos in such a serious life and death situation:

http://www.funonthenet.in/forums/index.php?topic=80293.new;topicseen


If you are asking such a question why would you post it here?!?!?!

585.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 03:19 pm

The French fashion designer has spent millions buying up houses in the tiny medieval village of Lacoste, but many locals are upset by what they see as his feudal manner.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/jun/07/france.fashion?picture=334646246

586.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 03:26 pm

Election diary: George W Albatross
By Rob Reynolds in Washington DC

McCain has tried, in a fitful and not very effective way, to distance
himself from President George Bush [AFP]

What evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the Albatross
About my neck was hung.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge,
"The Rime of the Ancient Mariner"

George Bush is the bird McCain cant get rid of.
Al Jazeera

587.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Jun 2008 Sun 04:40 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

The French fashion designer has spent millions buying up houses in the tiny medieval village of Lacoste, but many locals are upset by what they see as his feudal manner.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/jun/07/france.fashion?picture=334646246



Whatever next! Maybe Christian Lacroix will buy the quaint little village of Dunlop in Ayrshire, Scotland! lol

588.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 02:45 am

in reference to this topic, I just received a note from my friend who lives close to this castle in S. France:

The French fashion designer has spent millions buying up houses in the tiny medieval village of Lacoste, but many locals are upset by what they see as his feudal manner.


www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/jun/07/france.fashi...

"The village he bought" is a slight exaggeration. He bought the Château (castle) of the Marquis de Sade (the word Sadism comes from that man who was the first noted sadist. The castle was a ruin, was first bought by a mailman who however couldn't restore it because of financial problems. Then Pierre Cardin bought it, restored it in part, and now every Summer there is a festival planned by him with operas, concerts, plays, at the most outrageous prices.

While there might be a few abandoned houses in the village (I never heard however that he bought other than the castle), the villagae is inhabited by the people and their families who were there generations before the Cardin Snob arrived. He is not very popular in the village to say the least. Also now this formerly quiet medieval village is run over by thousands of tourists, of which Cardin profits but not the villagers.

589.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 01:41 pm

London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.










590.       lady in red
6947 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 02:56 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.












Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.lollol

591.       geniuda
1070 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 07:47 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.


lol lol
I dont know if I should feel sorry for the bike riders or the bikes' seat

592.       geniuda
1070 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 07:49 pm


Quoting lady in red:

Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.lollol

593.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 09:20 pm

Quoting geniuda:


Quoting lady in red:

Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.lollol


Well..
I was overthere as a keen cyclist.
But the comittee refused my participation on the bases of 'I was NOT showing enough flesh'!!
And I was stark naked.

594.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 10:11 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting geniuda:


Quoting lady in red:

Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.lollol


Well..
I was overthere as a keen cyclist.
But the comittee refused my participation on the bases of 'I was NOT showing enough flesh'!!
And I was stark naked.



You must have been wearing your Turkishness!

595.       geniuda
1070 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 10:37 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting thehandsom:


Well..
I was overthere as a keen cyclist.
But the comittee refused my participation on the bases of 'I was NOT showing enough flesh'!!
And I was stark naked.



You must have been wearing your Turkishness!


What do you exactly mean by Turkishness? too much hair?

No wonder why he was refused to participate, maybe too much hair was not even considered as being naked. That automatically disqualified him from this bike run.. lol

596.       libralady
5152 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 11:18 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting thehandsom:

London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.












Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.lollol



Trying to grab the attention away from the George BUSH visit!

597.       bydand
755 posts
 16 Jun 2008 Mon 11:41 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting thehandsom:

London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.












Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.lollol



I think thats him on the right wearing the cycle clips.

598.       cybernetics
753 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 10:47 am

i was searching crop signs, crop circles, and i found that , there are 10 crop circle discovered by people in different places of the world only in june 2008
some of them here

2008-06-13 United Kingdom ,Oxfordshire, Uffington Barley


2008-06-10 United Kingdom ,Wiltshire North Downs Barley


2008-06-09 United Kingdom Wiltshire West Kennett Longbarrow Barley


2008-06-07 France, Moselle Marly Barley (?)


2008-06-04 Italy Friuli Venezia Giulia Lignano Sabbiadoro (UD) Wheat


2008-06-03 Korea, Republic of Boryoung City


2008-06-01 United Kingdom Wiltshire Barbury Castle Barley


2008-06-06 United Kingdom Wiltshire West Kennett Barley

599.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 05:40 pm

Cartoon Museum


By JIM DWYER

Published: September 5, 2007

Starting today, many of the great cartoons of recent times are visiting New York for a five-week exhibition. For those who have not been paying attention, this presents an excellent chance to catch up on a quarter-century of world affairs and an eternity of human folly. Armed with sketch pads and banana peels, cartoonists have always stood ready for the high noons of history.


600.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 08:44 pm

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!

601.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 09:30 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!



Have you not been watching the news about the infected tomatoes? They have pulled them off the shelves here where I live.

602.       Leelu
1746 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 09:36 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!



Have you not been watching the news about the infected tomatoes? They have pulled them off the shelves here where I live.


infected tomatoes? what are they infected with? I still have tomatoes on the shelves where I live .. guess that means they are alright ..

603.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 09:40 pm

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!



Have you not been watching the news about the infected tomatoes? They have pulled them off the shelves here where I live.


infected tomatoes? what are they infected with? I still have tomatoes on the shelves where I live .. guess that means they are alright ..



It's been all over the news throughout the country. 250 people have died from bad tomatoes.

Salmonellosis Outbreak

604.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 09:56 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!



Have you not been watching the news about the infected tomatoes? They have pulled them off the shelves here where I live.


infected tomatoes? what are they infected with? I still have tomatoes on the shelves where I live .. guess that means they are alright ..



It's been all over the news throughout the country. 250 people have died from bad tomatoes.

Salmonellosis Outbreak



Yes....That's why it caught my eye....I can eat tomatoes again! I grew the plants from seedlings.

605.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 09:58 pm

Aw..how nice you wouldn't want to share would you? I can't even get diced tomatoes at Chipotle..signs everywhere no tomatoes..

606.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 10:57 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Aw..how nice you wouldn't want to share would you? I can't even get diced tomatoes at Chipotle..signs everywhere no tomatoes..



Sure, I will put some in the mail today!!

607.       lady in red
6947 posts
 17 Jun 2008 Tue 11:04 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!



Have you not been watching the news about the infected tomatoes? They have pulled them off the shelves here where I live.


infected tomatoes? what are they infected with? I still have tomatoes on the shelves where I live .. guess that means they are alright ..



It's been all over the news throughout the country. 250 people have died from bad tomatoes.

Salmonellosis Outbreak



Someone's out to get you bed Americans

608.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 12:03 am

Our latest deleted member....deleted for inappropriate name....

609.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 12:05 am

someone with nickname "cat"!

610.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 12:10 am

Quoting catwoman:

someone with nickname "cat"!



Delete them immediately!! lol

611.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 02:26 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!



Oh, lucky you. I planted 4 different varieties, Cherokee purple, green tiger, orange flame and another. They all died. I'm so upset. I was really looking forward to them, and in particular the Cherokee purple. It has a smokey salty taste....yum! This is the third year in that spot, so maybe I should have rotated the crop.

Very sad...but I've got a lot of beans! I'll work on the soil for next year.

612.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 02:43 am

Quoting teaschip:



Salmonellosis Outbreak


Dear God !
Cows,Chickens,and now tomatos !

613.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 02:50 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting teaschip:



Salmonellosis Outbreak


Dear God !
Cows,Chickens,and now tomatos !



Yes, we have a problem....I think it's the industrialization. The chickens are kept in such tiny cages they aren't healthy, the beef, the same thing. They fed them ground up remains of other cows, chickens and such. They do not have the system to process that, they are grass eaters. Giving them feed that was animal based caused the problem...so they say.

mad cow disease

You didn't read about the spinach? I think it's the processing. Long complicated story

614.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 02:56 am

Quoting alameda:



You didn't read about the spinach? I think it's the processing. Long complicated story


spinach ?!
Something wrong with it too ?!
İ dont know why cant we keep things simple as god created them ?!
Food is not tasty as it used to be !

615.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 04:15 am

Yes, Alameda, I remember when this was published:

California grower recalls salmonella- tainted spinach
Reuters
Published: Thursday, August 30, 2007
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California produce grower Metz Fresh LLC said on Wednesday it voluntarily recalled fresh spinach in grocery stores and food service packages after a sample tested positive for salmonella.

The privately held King City, California-based company and a spokesman from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said there have been no reports of illness or problems related to the spinach.

616.       lady in red
6947 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 11:49 am

New member 'HANDSOME'!! lol - a pretender to the throne?? Wake up 'THE' wherever you are and deal with this imposter!

617.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 12:22 pm

Quoting lady in red:

New member 'HANDSOME'!! lol - a pretender to the throne?? Wake up 'THE' wherever you are and deal with this imposter!


Yeah,
I saw it too..
I pmed catwoman about it and asked this new impostor to be deleted immediately.
But she refused.
Ama, She said very nice things about me in her reply.
She said:
'Come on Thehandsom, we all know you and we all love you (ME specially! and you know it) ..
We all know he can NOT be as 'handsome' as you are. It is not possible.
And dont forget "the importance of THE" and the missing "e" '.


618.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 06:06 pm

Gay Cupcakes

caption of the images say: Tori, left, and Kate Kuykendall, with daughter Zadia, after their wedding ceremony in West Hollywood, Calif., on Tuesday, June 17, 2008. With a quiet pride and a sense of history, hundreds of gay and lesbian couples across California wed on Tuesday, giving a human face to a landmark court decision and a powerful opening salvo in what is expected to be a bruising fall campaign here over the issue of same-sex marriage.












<----- and protesters


619.       geniuda
1070 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 09:33 pm

I must be suffering from Diplopia since I see two handsomes' users logged in!

now, who is who?

620.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 10:02 pm

Quoting geniuda:

I must be suffering from Diplopia since I see two handsomes' users logged in!

now, who is who?



Well, there is handsome....and thehandsom....but there can be only one who is thehairy.

621.       Leelu
1746 posts
 18 Jun 2008 Wed 10:27 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting geniuda:

I must be suffering from Diplopia since I see two handsomes' users logged in!

now, who is who?



Well, there is handsome....and thehandsom....but there can be only one who is thehairy.

and we do not accept any substitutions!! lol lol lol

622.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 07:47 am

Quoting lady in red:

New member 'HANDSOME'!! lol - a pretender to the throne?? Wake up 'THE' wherever you are and deal with this imposter!


Maybe handsom was just finally trying to correct his spelling error.

623.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 04:15 pm

Nazi anthem lyrics used in mix-upFrom correspondents in
SWISS television station SRG has apologised for mistakenly putting the words of the old Nazi Germany national anthem as subtitles instead of those of the present German one before the Euro 2008 Group B match with Austria on Monday.

Both the Nazi version and the present-day one come from the same song, 'das Deutschlandlied' composed by August Heinrich Hoffmann in 1841 from music by Austrian composer Joseph Haydn.

Zurich
June 19, 2008 02:53am
Article from: Agence France-PresseFont

624.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 06:34 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Nazi anthem lyrics used in mix-upFrom correspondents in
SWISS television station SRG has apologised for mistakenly putting the words of the old Nazi Germany national anthem as subtitles instead of those of the present German one before the Euro 2008 Group B match with Austria on Monday.

Both the Nazi version and the present-day one come from the same song, 'das Deutschlandlied' composed by August Heinrich Hoffmann in 1841 from music by Austrian composer Joseph Haydn.

"It is an inexcusable error," one of those in charge of the subtitling service for the station told Blick, though he added it was the fault of two young female editors.

Used in its entirety as the national anthem from 1922, the Nazis, once they came to power, only sang the first verse.

Post World War II Germany sing just the third verse, and not the lines that inadvertent viewers were treated to on Monday which included 'Deutschland Deutschland uber alles.'
Zurich
June 19, 2008 02:53am
Article from: Agence France-PresseFont



WOW...talk about open mouth - insert foot!

625.       teaschip
3870 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 09:13 pm

Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..

Cicadas

626.       Leelu
1746 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 09:22 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..

Cicadas

and they are VERY LOUD I hate these things!!

627.       teaschip
3870 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 09:25 pm

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting teaschip:

Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..

Cicadas

and they are VERY LOUD I hate these things!!



I was at church on Sunday and a man had one on his collar. Everyone was in prayer so it was quite silent. The mans wife went to pick it off and the Cicada screamed..Everyone in the church laughed as the man carried it out. I have never known a bug to scream, but they do... lol

628.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 09:32 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting teaschip:

Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..

Cicadas

and they are VERY LOUD I hate these things!!



I was at church on Sunday and a man had one on his collar. Everyone was in prayer so it was quite silent. The mans wife went to pick it off and the Cicada screamed..Everyone in the church laughed as the man carried it out. I have never known a bug to scream, but they do... lol



Perhpas the bug was not Catholic???

629.       alameda
3499 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 09:43 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting teaschip:

Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..

Cicadas

and they are VERY LOUD I hate these things!!



I was at church on Sunday and a man had one on his collar. Everyone was in prayer so it was quite silent. The mans wife went to pick it off and the Cicada screamed..Everyone in the church laughed as the man carried it out. I have never known a bug to scream, but they do... lol



Amazing! Great link, thanks for it. I am the one in my office that takes care of all bugs. I capture them and release them, but I must say these are daunting. It would be a good subject for a horror movie. It's amazing nobody has done it yet.

630.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 10:34 pm


Mon amie la rose, Francoise Hardy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQGNpRnFNgM

Bosnia - Ramazan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9FEO6-96EQ

631.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Jun 2008 Thu 10:55 pm

Inside a Female-Circumcision Ceremony

THOSE POUR SOULS

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/01/20/magazine/20080120_CIRCUMCISION_SLIDESHOW_index.html

632.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 04:21 pm

With a Word, Egyptians Leave It All to Fate


The McDonald’s here has golden arches, the same golden arches as anywhere else in the world. The food is prepared the same assembly-line way, too. But there is an invisible, or more precisely, divine, element in bringing that burger to the plate that the uninitiated may not be prepared for.

“Inshallah,” or “God willing,” the counterman said as he walked off to see about a burger without onions at the McDonald’s on the Alexandria Desert Road, 30 miles from the center of Cairo.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/world/middleeast/20inshallah.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin

633.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 04:38 pm

Thanks Roswitha..maybe I'll start using the word inshallah..especially when I want to get out of going to functions I don't care to attend.

634.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 09:21 pm

The meaning of insallah means: that's it: Kismet. Fate. Nothing you can do about.

635.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Jun 2008 Fri 10:49 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

The meaning of insallah means: that's it: Kismet. Fate. Nothing you can do about.



Well the meaning is that you can't do anything about it yet, but it more directly means 'If god wills', 'God willing' 'İf that's what god wants'. Something like that I guess.

636.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:12 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Roswitha:

The meaning of insallah means: that's it: Kismet. Fate. Nothing you can do about.



Well the meaning is that you can't do anything about it yet, but it more directly means 'If god wills', 'God willing' 'İf that's what god wants'. Something like that I guess.


İnşallah means a positive thing usually,it has nothing to do by 'if i can do anything or not'!
Of course we have everything to do with it,you will do that thing or you wont do it by yourself ALLAH wont do it for you.
İt means..By the will of ALLAH,i will do this or that,or something will happen
İn a positive ways,but people tend to use it in another way,like i will do it İF ALLAH want 'means i may and i may not'
İn informal speaking we use it in many ways,sometimes means we wont give a clue of what will happen,or what we will do .
But its meaning,that 'with ALLAH will'

637.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:37 am

Quoting Roswitha:




İ read it now,and actually,its not like this
İts a preferable word used by all Muslims not only Egyptians,thats why you knew about it in Türkiye too
Means as i stated by the will of ALLAH
İts not a bad word to even write such article about it and surely not a word to make fun of!

But,here we have many people same like in Türkiye too against head scarves,and appearently against anything religious too,even words!
Even they are free not to wear it if they want,but they also hate it when other women wearing it!

We use the word lots,its as giving hope that 'this thing' will happen by the will of ALLAH which is greater will we know of 'spiritually'
İts a word incuding hope and doa too

Anyway,its ridiculous to discuss the words we say and why we say it!
So,let them talk

638.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:39 am

Actually I use it too. I try not to, because it feels false to say something in the name of an Allah that I don't believe in, but it sounds so nice and is so easy to say I say it when I firmly hope something to happen.

639.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:44 am

The fact that I, since today, have more than 5000 posts in the forum!!

640.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:54 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

The fact that I, since today, have more than 5000 posts in the forum!!


İts fresh Juice though with Soda,i like to preper it
Wish you like it .

641.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 01:59 am

Quoting CANLI:

İts fresh Juice though with Soda,i like to preper it
Wish you like it .



I love soda Especially when its got looooadds of bubbles that it feels as if you are drinking mainly air that still burns your throat!

642.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 02:15 am

Quoting Roswitha:



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/world/middleeast/20inshallah.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin


This is a joke ! lol
They talk about things they dont even understand and didnt bother to ask about too then write article about it and publishing it,what a responsibility !
İm reading it and laughing about it too lol

''the Muslim declaration of belief, as a routine greeting. So instead of “How are you? Fine, and you?” she will say to a friend “There is no God but God,” to which the friend will complete the statement. “And Muhammad is his prophet.” ''
Muslims greeting is not like this its 'Elsalamu Alikum ve Rahmatulah we Barakatoh'
Meaning,Peace,mercy and blessing be upon you from ALLAH
And the other one replies same but add the word wa 've' and 'We Alikum Elsalam ve Rahmatulah we Barakatoh'
As you see its very nice words to greet each others
Now people just use Alsalam Alikum and the other replies We alikum elsalam
Muslim or Christian,both can say

As for '“There is no God but God,” to which the friend will complete the statement. “And Muhammad is his prophet.” '
'La İlah illa ALLAH' 'Muhamadon Rasulu ALLAH'
But it has nothing to do with religious things what so ever
İts mmmmm,well something people believe it make good omen
Many use it while leaving,as in like
As you know in Şahada Muslims say both
So they believe or used to believe when 2 persons say like this,then they will meet again
As you see has nothing to do with religion believe,because its not in İslam this way,but its a Traditional believe people now use it like habit,and good omen.

And yes when something good or even bad happened,we thank ALLAH,we believe everything come from ALLAH,good or bad,and for a reason
Of course people do this things,government,...ect
We dont believe that human doesnt have a choice,human has the choice but ALLAH know about it before it happened,and planed it for reasons
And on a parallel way human chose to do it and act it this way
Ohhh,long story,but yes we Thank ALLAH for everything good or bad,not just Egyptians but Muslims

643.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:11 am

DK and Catwoman arguing about me in 2 threads! Don't I have anything to say? Gals stop fighting, immediately think of a price to offer my husband (he accepts all currencies plus a number of domestic animals) please bear in mind that the price is quite high as I come in a twopack for two more months.

644.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:59 am

One extremely paranoid Turk. lol

645.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 05:59 pm

Quoting catwoman:

One extremely paranoid Turk. lol



There is JUST ONE today? Wow you have done a brilliant job of cleaning up this site then! Nice work catwoman!!

646.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:07 pm

For Cloaked Saudi Women, Color Is the New Black

By Faiza Saleh Ambah
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, May 28, 2007; Page A01

JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia -- Manal Fageeh never liked the abaya, the long black cloak she was forced to begin wearing at 13. She resented the fact that it was obligatory for women in Saudi Arabia, and the black absorbed heat in the often-scorching climate.

When Fageeh, a health industry executive, appeared at a recent business conference in a floor-length white abaya made of light cotton and monogrammed with an M, some of the attendees were shocked, she said. But others were inspired.

647.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:11 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

There is JUST ONE today? Wow you have done a brilliant job of cleaning up this site then! Nice work catwoman!!


I am just that good... lol

648.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 21 Jun 2008 Sat 11:51 pm

Chandelier at Shah Faisal

Built by the Turkish architect Vadat Dolokay who won an architecture competition, the Shah Faisal mosque in Islamabad, Pakistan is one of the largest in the world accommodating more than 100,000 worshippers in the various halls and courtyards.

In the centre of the mosque in the main prayer hall, suspended from the ceiling is a giant chandelier made of gold plated aluminium tubes weighing 7.5 tons which uses 1000 electric bulbs. The qibla wall (the direction in which prayer is made towards Mecca) is decorated with glazed tiles from Turkey.



Source: Flickr

649.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 22 Jun 2008 Sun 06:10 pm

Ros, please just post the link of the picture, and not the entire searching machine stuff. You simply click right on the picture, --> properties --> there you will find the link of the picture itself:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gYf9GjaZt8yG/610x.jpg

Your link is so long it 'disturbs' the forum. Please change.

650.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 03:54 am

Sophie Marceau: Fatal attraction

Sophie Marceau is one of France's biggest stars, and the epitome of Parisian chic. From 'Braveheart' to Bond, men have fallen at her feet. But would her undoubted charm work on our very own Deborah Ross?


Independent.co.uk

651.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 12:15 pm

A small fly - it just flew right in there without so much as a by your leave. Please don't concern youselves about either of us though - I have not gone blind and the fly is now beyond your concern.

652.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 02:14 pm

Quoting lady in red:

A small fly - it just flew right in there without so much as a by your leave. Please don't concern youselves about either of us though - I have not gone blind and the fly is now beyond your concern.



Bit like the poor little fox I saw this morning, displayed across the road, with motorists doing their best to avoid spreading it even further

653.       silversong
278 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 04:42 pm

me ... I caught sight of myself in the mirror and thought to mysef...jeeze when did I start to look so old

654.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 04:45 pm

Quoting silversong:

me ... I caught sight of myself in the mirror and thought to mysef...jeeze when did I start to look so old



Aw!! Stop tryıng to put the spammers off!! I am sure you look absolutely fıne and defınıtely nowhere near as old as me!!

655.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:50 pm

Sworn to virginity and living as men in Albania

Pashe Keqi recalls the day nearly sixty years ago when she decided to become a man. She chopped off her long black curls, traded in her dress for her father's baggy trousers, armed herself with a hunting rifle and vowed to forsake marriage, children and sex.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/23/europe/virgins.php


656.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 06:03 pm

Roswitha, can I ask you a favour? İf you have a long article to post, please just post the first paragraph or a short paragraph, and then provide us with a link.

These posts unnecessarily fill the forums with long posts, and they make my fingers hurt from scrolling

Just a link would do the job

657.       KeithL
1455 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 12:23 am

Should we make a rule? No posts longer than one paragraph, 5 lines????

658.       geniuda
1070 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 12:46 am

Adding to the fact that some of the posts are already too long, there are some members who tend to quote these long posts!

It is kind of annoying

659.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 02:34 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Sworn to virginity and living as men in Albania
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/23/europe/virgins.php



That certainly was an interesting article. I do agree though it could have been edited a bit...but it was an interesting topic indeed.

660.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 11:35 am

superbly shot piece and the track fits it perfectly.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYu6omAzks

661.       lady in red
6947 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 11:37 am



BU SİTEYE ERİŞİM ENGELLENMİŞTİR

And I'm getting a bit fed up with seeing it!

662.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 11:44 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Sworn to virginity and living as men in Albania

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/23/europe/virgins.php



Such an interesting article Roswitha. Thanks

663.       lady in red
6947 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 11:51 am

Quoting peacetrain:

superbly shot piece and the track fits it perfectly.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYu6omAzks



Thanks PT - beautiful video!

664.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 10:21 pm

The air here is filled with smoke from all the wildfires. It burns the eyes. In fact we have a air quality alert.

Hundreds of fires sparked by rare lightning storm

665.       geniuda
1070 posts
 27 Jun 2008 Fri 02:13 am

wooooohoooo!!

"this catch has a catch"
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=8518658

(sorry, you must see some advertisement first)

666.       geniuda
1070 posts
 27 Jun 2008 Fri 07:59 pm

Thu Jun 26
North Pole Could be Ice-Free This Summer

Arctic sea ice could break apart completely at the North Pole this year, allowing ships to sail over the normally frozen top of the world.

The potential landmark thaw - the first time in human history the pole would be ice-free - is a stark sign of global warming, according to an article Friday on the web site of the The Independent, a London newspaper.

"Symbolically it is hugely important," said Mark Serreze of the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado. "There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water." ..........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080627/sc_livescience/northpolecouldbeicefreethissummer

:-S :-S

667.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 12:28 am

668.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 01:01 am

Strange and unusual
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?collectionId=1983&galleryName=News#a=29

669.       silversong
278 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 01:05 am

some people on this site that never say thank you for help or translations... And I don't mean thanking me because I don't do many translations
manners cost nothing

670.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 01:19 am

Quoting silversong:

some people on this site that never say thank you for help or translations... And I don't mean thanking me because I don't do many translations
manners cost nothing


Just take yourself a nice stiff drink of post #667 and you will forget all about the lack of graciousness from some members!

You are right, I have noticed it too. It seems that for some it is about a sense of entitlement. Like because they have joined a Turkish language website.....where people are gracious enough to translate freely.....they shouldn't have to thank anyone. Those people, who are constantly asking for translations, might want to remember that the purpose of this site is to learn the language.

671.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 03:45 am

Germany remembers Berlin airlift

Ex-US pilot Gail Halvorsen returned to Germany for the ceremony
Germany has been commemorating the 60th anniversary of the Berlin airlift, when the Western allies kept the city supplied despite a Soviet blockade.

Veterans of the airlift, many of whom are in their 80s and 90s, attended ceremonies in Berlin and Frankfurt.

The American and British-led airlift lasted for more than a year, and involved planes delivering everything from coal to sweets.

It was one of the biggest humanitarian air relief missions in history.
REUTERS


672.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 04:31 pm

Pentagon making case against Iran
A DoD report released to Congress ahead of a vote on extreme punitive measures on Iran accuses Tehran of assisting Afghan insurgents.

In its first ever Report on Progress toward Security and Stability in Afghanistan to the US Congress, the Pentagon claims it has 'evidence' of Iranian involvement in the war-torn country.

"There is evidence that the insurgency ... has been provided with lethal aid originating in Iran since at least 2006," says the report.

It is 'unclear what role, and at what level the Iranian government plays in providing this assistance', the 72-page document adds.

Iran, however, says it has helped in the reconstruction of Afghanistan and has played only a constructive role in the country.

The release of the report comes ahead of a vote on the imposition of harsher US sanctions on Iranian banks, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) and any energy companies that have invested $20,000,000 or more in the Iranian petroleum or natural gas sector in any given year since the enactment of the Iran Sanctions Act of 1996.

If the bill passes, US President George W. Bush will also be urged to gain world support to prohibit the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products and to impose stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran.

Introduced by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and considered a tacit declaration of war against the Islamic Republic, the bill has seen opposition but may pass.

House Resolution 362 and the Senate version Resolution 580, known as the 'Iran War Resolution', are believed to be a prelude to the imposition of a naval blockade restricting exports to oil-rich Iran.

This bill has gained 208 co-sponsors in the House and 29 in the Senate. It will likely be put to a vote after July 4.


673.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 04:36 pm

The US foreign policy and especially their 'reports' only make me angry. These people are a bunch of thieves and terrorists.

674.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 06:55 pm

The illegal, immoral poll in Zimbawee which puts the ignorant dictator safely back in the seat, the seat which he never vacated, whilst his drongo's go round killing and intimidating his "citizens" into voting for him.

675.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 09:36 pm

Quoting libralady:

The illegal, immoral poll in Zimbawee which puts the ignorant dictator safely back in the seat, the seat which he never vacated, whilst his drongo's go round killing and intimidating his "citizens" into voting for him.


didn't he also close down the opposition parties which were certain to win?

676.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 04:57 am

Fumée d'Ambre Gris, 1880
by John Singer Sargent, American, 1856-1925

Although portraiture is the key public enterprise for which John Singer Sargent is remembered today, the foundation of his early reputation was also built upon the innovative subject paintings inspired by the artist's travels to exotic locales during the late 1870s and early 1880s. Fumée d'ambre gris was Sargent's major souvenir from a trip to Tangier in the winter months of 1879-1880. The painting's non-narrative structure and monochromaticism, as well as its mysterious ambiance, ensured that it was repeatedly singled out for praise at the Paris Salon later that spring.
With this representation of a North African woman infusing her robes and senses with the musky perfume of ambergris (a resinous substance extracted from whales and considered an aphrodisiac as well as a guard against evil spirits), Sargent entered into the list of artists who, from the 1860s to the turn of the century, popularized exotic images of Near-Eastern culture to Western audiences. However, unlike artists such as Jean-Léon Gérôme (French, 1824-1904), who relied upon heightened realism to lend veracity to the narrative of their paintings, Sargent's preoccupation in Fumée d'ambre gris was not with the subject matter.

677.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 08:03 pm

Common Dreams, good topics and well written articles:

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/29/9964/

678.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 09:13 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Common Dreams, good topics and well written articles:

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/29/9964/



My daughter had a severe problem with a tooth during her pregnancy. It had a mercury filling that needed to be removed, in order to deal with an infection. Two local dentists wouldn't drill the filling out because of the risk of mercury poisoning to her baby. After weeks of dreadful pain and a great many visits to dentists, it was finally dealt with at a hospital. They told her the danger to unborn babies is usually during the first few months only. But, as has been publicised over the years, mercury may be dangerous to anyone with such a filling.

I think non mercury fillings being used more often here now too.

679.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 12:35 am

Worlds apart

1-Cambodian little girl 12 yo, Phektra lives in the Cambodian village Skoun that is well-known for its black fried spiders. Phektra catches and collects the tarantulas in the forest behind her house and sells the fried eight-legged at the bus station in order to earn some money for the school. Her mother died 2005 and her father died 2006 by HIV/AIDS.











2-Spa Di Da - The first and only full service spa that caters exclusively to kids. Pedicures, manicures, Chocolate Kiss facials, ManiBaby+PediBaby. For 18 months and younger. Cupcake Pedicure, waxing, yoga, hair extensions.
Spa Di Da is the brainchild of children's services entrepreneur Maria Botham. She developed the world's first spa for children because she has two of her own young daughters and could not find a place where the staff is trained to cater to their half pint needs. Based in Los Angeles, Spa Di Da offers trendy haircuts, temporary tattoos, chocolate facials, lemon manicures, cupcake pedicures, even ear piercing. Kids get all the perks of an adult salon and spa, but in a unique and magical environment designed specifically for children.


680.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 01:52 am

Quoting thehandsom:

2-Spa Di Da - The first and only full service spa that caters exclusively to kids. Pedicures, manicures, Chocolate Kiss facials, ManiBaby+PediBaby. For 18 months and younger. Cupcake Pedicure, waxing, yoga, hair extensions.


Hair extensions, pedicures and waxing to 18 months and younger?

This is outrageous, brainwashing kids with this kind of useless, harmful 'beauty' practices from such an early age. Horrible.

681.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 02:58 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

2-Spa Di Da - The first and only full service spa that caters exclusively to kids. Pedicures, manicures, Chocolate Kiss facials, ManiBaby+PediBaby. For 18 months and younger. Cupcake Pedicure, waxing, yoga, hair extensions.


Hair extensions, pedicures and waxing to 18 months and younger?

This is outrageous, brainwashing kids with this kind of useless, harmful 'beauty' practices from such an early age. Horrible.



I agree, how sick is this!

682.       Leelu
1746 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 10:40 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Hair extensions, pedicures and waxing to 18 months and younger?

hair extensions for a baby?

683.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 10:57 pm

Yes, this is sick

Why not let babies be babies? ohh gosh..crazy adults

684.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 11:02 pm

Quoting Leelu:

Quoting thehandsom:

Hair extensions, pedicures and waxing to 18 months and younger?

hair extensions for a baby?


I think he made a mistake and meant 18 years, but I still think it's abhorrent!

685.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 11:08 pm

Taslima Nasreen:

"Wemen are oppressed by all religions. All religions are anti-women. Religions are made for men and men made religions for their own fun and interest."

"If you want to be a human being, a good person, you have to first be bad in the society - good people have to defy society and its conventions."

Pure wisdom and courage!

686.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 02:32 am

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

687.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 09:44 am

Quoting catwoman:

Taslima Nasreen:

"Women are oppressed by all religions. All religions are anti-women. Religions are made for men and men made religions for their own fun and interest."



Absolutely

Quote:

"If you want to be a human being, a good person, you have to first be bad in the society - good people have to defy society and its conventions."


Not quite sure here...not everything about societies is bad, rules are necessary to impose order, without them we'd be in an anarchistic hell...Yet, I disagree with blind obedience to all the rules, people should fight to amend those outdated and/or pointless

688.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 02:43 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting catwoman:

Taslima Nasreen:

"Women are oppressed by all religions. All religions are anti-women. Religions are made for men and men made religions for their own fun and interest."



Absolutely

Quote:

"If you want to be a human being, a good person, you have to first be bad in the society - good people have to defy society and its conventions."


Not quite sure here...not everything about societies is bad, rules are necessary to impose order, without them we'd be in an anarchistic hell...Yet, I disagree with blind obedience to all the rules, people should fight to amend those outdated and/or pointless


This woman is from Bangladesh, so I think she was mainly speaking about her society, but I think it can be also extrapolated to other societies especially if you mean 'the courage to be against established and often 'sacred' social rules or accepted behaviors'.
However, anarchy is really hell, anarchy is by definition lack of hierarchy, lack of central power, which translates into nobody telling you what you can and cannot do, unless everybody agrees to some common rules.

689.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 05:36 pm

I was suprised to see on a packet of polo's that they meet the halal rules, so curious as I am I googled it and there is a list of halal sweeties!!! Nestle Halal sweetie list

Are Muslims that strict??

690.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 07:50 pm

Quoting libralady:

I was suprised to see on a packet of polo's that they meet the halal rules, so curious as I am I googled it and there is a list of halal sweeties!!! Nestle Halal sweetie list

Are Muslims that strict??



Yes, at least some are.

The Islamic Halal certification process is somewhat new and still going through refinement. It is similar to the Jewish Kosher certification and process. Kosher certifation is very sophisticated. With recent indistrialization of food processing and genetic engineering they have been very busy.

Here are a couple of examples.

Kosher Primer

Halal products

I have read of incidents where some prepared supposedly "halal" foods were sold in the UAE, When they were tested in laboratories and found to have pork products.

The food in question was reported to have been produced in Saudi Arabia.

I've added this as it's interesting

Halal Food Act Passed In Illinois Senate

691.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 07:54 pm

Quoting libralady:



Are Muslims that strict??



From my own experience, I would say they are. There is a large Muslim population in the town where I work and all the schools with Muslim pupils provide a Halal option for school meals.

Asda sells Halal chicken and lamb now too. They also sell gummy sweets that don't contain gelatin, by Dunhill I think.

I posted a very comprehensive list of Halal confection quite a while ago, but it is advisable to continue to check ingredients as sometimes they change for certain products and new products are added all the time.

692.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 09:46 pm

Not that I haven't noticed before, but our Congress are a bunch of idiots. $162 billion dollar war funding bill.

What the heck what's another $162 billion dollars.....Now everyone wants to give crap to George W...but he is one person and one person only, it's up to Congress to decide. Now let's see the same people in Congress, majority democrats who also voted to go into Iraq passes a war funding bill. And what do we have to look forward to...Obama..

693.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 09:57 pm

yes, it's really lovely, $160 billion for the war, and at the same time they cut by %10 medicare payments to doctors and some time ago bUSH vetoed a child healthcare bill. they should all go to prison, preferably in guantanamo! and someone explain to me how is all this possible in a democracy, where 80% of the population doesn't support the policies? this is blatant dictatorship!

694.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 10:01 pm

Finally, Wal-Mart might start getting called on its unethical business practices.
I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. Ever.

http://www.startribune.com/business/22764284.html?location_refer=Homepage:highlightModules:1

695.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 10:14 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Finally, Wal-Mart might start getting called on its unethical business practices.
I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. Ever.

http://www.startribune.com/business/22764284.html?location_refer=Homepage:highlightModules:1



My son works for Walmart in the summer. As a benefit he gets an employee discount, but I don't shop there even to take advantage of his discount. They make him work second shift and they don't even give him a pay differential for working those hours. They have the biggest turnover at the one he works at. But to him it's only a job partime not a career, since he's in college. Thank God!

696.       geniuda
1070 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 11:04 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Finally, Wal-Mart might start getting called on its unethical business practices.
I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. Ever.

http://www.startribune.com/business/22764284.html?location_refer=Homepage:highlightModules:1


I don't hear too many of these cases here at our local Wal-Mart but I think the biggest problem is that manyof these employees not even complain about it.... while they should stand up, speak out against these kind of practices :-S ..

I have seen (at our local WM) employees who have been working there for years, some of these employees have no education and they mistakenly "believe" this is all they are capable of doing as their main source of income. They think they have no choice and are stuck to this because they are afraid to lose their job and not being able to find something else locally. And the temporary ones, like students or seasonal employees really don't care as they know they will be leaving that job soon.

697.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 11:57 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting KeithL:

Finally, Wal-Mart might start getting called on its unethical business practices.
I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. Ever.

http://www.startribune.com/business/22764284.html?location_refer=Homepage:highlightModules:1



My son works for Walmart in the summer. As a benefit he gets an employee discount, but I don't shop there even to take advantage of his discount. They make him work second shift and they don't even give him a pay differential for working those hours. They have the biggest turnover at the one he works at. But to him it's only a job partime not a career, since he's in college. Thank God!



Not just the Far East where they abuse their workers then! Perhaps someone should video it and let Jay Leonard show it on TV, like he did once before, only that time he was exposing child labour, right in front of the CEO nose!

698.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Jul 2008 Wed 02:24 pm

Everest is closed for a clean up at last! The Chinese are closing Everest so that a major clean up can take place at Base Camp. It is littered with everything from oxygen cannisters, to ruck sacks, tents and even the occasional corpse!

699.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 02:50 am


Blues: "Let' s have a good time" by Berthold Engel

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=FTRmnp74jKA&feature=related

700.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 10:52 pm

“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organised violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.” (Samuel Huntington)
http://www.globaliamagazine.com/?id=288

701.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 11:01 pm

Granada: Al-Andalus shines on
What does it mean to the Muslim world, that Islam has re-entered Spain in a time when Islam is being degraded globally?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: I think it is a sign of the vitality, the validity and relevance of Islam in this modern age. Also it is a sign that Islam has not been erased from the hearts and minds of the people of Spain. Eight hundred years of Islamic civilisation of Alandalus has left so much knowledge that is still used today by Ummah of Islam and non-Muslims. But as a living element, a living existential element it has been erased from the surface of the Iberian peninsula but, it is a sign of the vitality, validity and relevance of Islam and the people are taking it on existentially and in their daily lives.

Question: The history of Spain is vast and extraordinary, what are the sentiments of the Muslim population to his momentous undertaking of reviving the Deen in Spain?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: I would say in the last thirty years, after the death of Gen. Franco there had been an increase in the sympathy towards Islam. In the intellectual circles, academic circles and by those who have knowledge of culture and history. The Islamic era was one of the greatest times in Spain and this may sound natural and true to you as a Muslim but to the Spanish people it is very new. In the last five hundred years we have been thought that the country was a Christian country invaded by Islam and it destroyed our unity. This has been basically the official catholic version of history up until the seventies and that has completely changed, in the textbooks even in the discourses of officials. Last year in 2006 the Prime Minister said that Spain is indebted to Islam for that history. All this is very new. People will now say Islam is not terrorism, Islam is not backwards we know it in our cities, we know it in our monuments, we know it in our own history. This is the truth and it can grow faster there then in any other European country.

Question: The EMU extends to all European Muslims. What is the role played by the Spanish Muslim community and the Granada mosque in establishing Assabiyyah throughout Europe?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: I think everyone who comes to Granada - there are many Muslims from the United Kingdom, Germany and France - who come for holidays and cultural visits. Everyone recognizes that Granada has a very strong meaning and has a very strong place in the hearts and memory of the Muslims, we are located there. Not only that, but we are located in the most historical quarter opposite the Alhambra palace and our mosque has become a model for all of Europe, in that it is a mosque open to all people, not only Muslims. It fulfills the role of 'Ibadah, which is the first role of a Mosque and it is the heart of the community and also it is a place of interaction to the society. Every day, there are many activities. Everyday of the year it is open to the people, to the non-Muslims of Granada - in Granada City but also visitors, researchers, teachers, university groups and schools. The Mosque of Granada has been one of the founding members of the EMU. We have attended all the assemblies and general meetings of EMU. We have a strong contribution to make because we join history and present time and I think Granada will become a place of hospitality, meeting, protection and discussion for all European Muslims.

Question: What sets Granada apart from other European countries?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: Granada in history is the last place of sovereign power of Islam in Europe. It was a monarchy, which surrendered power to the Christian monarchy in 1492 and then for another two hundred and fifty years the indigenous Spanish Muslims remained under Christian rule. They were persecuted by genocide and religious persecution done by the inquisition. They remained up until the middle seventeenth century in large communities. The Alhambrah - for its great beauty and extraordinary craft and talent in its architecture - was not destroyed. When Spain goes around the world and does promotions for tourist fairs in New York or Singapore the Alahambra is the symbol- like the Taj Mahal is for India, which is a Muslim monument - the Alhambrah is always the symbol for Spain.

Granada is a small provincial town with tree hundred and fifty thousand inhabitants. For the past twenty years it has also been a model city in all of Spain where immigrant Muslims have been accepted and had made themselves a niche in society and have contributed to the economy but not as industrial workers. They have created an atmosphere and ambiance of Islamic revival with their souks and bazaars and have somehow recreated a moor-ish presence in the city, which is very beneficial to the economy and tourism. They have also somehow managed to integrate with society without major clashes or problems - all of that makes Granada significant.

Question: After going through the Granada Mosque web-site I could not help but note that the community is very lively and active what are your expectations for 2007?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: We are, after three years, becoming more organised and professional if you want to call it that. In our approach, programs, teaching and reaching out to society intellectually by our publications. We are hoping to have more open conferences and international conferences at the mosque. We have an event in July on the 6th, 7th and 8th which is a summer celebration of Islam in Europe that we do every year. We also plan to invite scholars all through the year and we have a plan of talks and conferences.

Question: The Granada mosque has one of the finest Khatibs in Shaykh Muhammed Kasbi. Can you tell me something about him and his influence on the community?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: Shaykh Muhammed Kasbi is a gift from Allah of incalculable value, to the Muslims in Spain and the community in Granada. He is extracted from another age. His own life experience, he tells us, is exactly like that of the Sahabah, milking goats, travelling on donkeys and going to get water from the well. He belongs to a very well known area, which has dedicated itself entirely to scholarship. One remarkable thing is how a man who never traveled out of southern Morocco speaks such a high Arabic. Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula get dumb when they hear him, he has much eloquence, poetry and sayings from his language, which in itself is a miracle.

The region of Souse where he comes from is called the spiritual reserve of the Maghrib. They have nothing else, no agriculture and no cattle so the land is basically desert but, they have cultivated, at a very high level, extraordinary Madrasahs, that maintains the same method and teachings for a thousand years. Allah has given him the gift of discrimination and wisdom and dept that has made him understand perfectly and subtlety the realities of Europe today.

So he is not just someone who knows the books and laws and the Qur`aan, he is someone who judges and interprets and counsels, always with great wisdom and with great sharpness. He has also been trained as a Qadi. He knows how to judge in contexts of place, time and the people. He is not just a recording of knowledge, which he is, he is a high quality recording to correct knowledge. His advice individually, collectively, to the authorities and to the leaders of the community is of the highest value.

Question: All across the Muslim world, in countries such as South Africa, Germany and many others there are barriers between the indigenous Muslims and the migrant population, is this the case in Spain?

Abdulhasib Castiñeira: It is becoming. It has never been the case with Spain, being connected with South America and North Africa, geographically speaking. The condition and relationships of the immigrant and indigenous population are much better than in other European countries. It is by taking a sort of moral and intellectual leadership that will prevent them from being marginalised and ghettoized which has happened to the economic immigrants of the UK. They have defined themselves as ghetto and allowed to be put in a corner because of the lack of taking on the responsibility as Muslims, to be role models with clear intellectual understanding of the challenges of the moment. We are trying to erase the barriers by bringing everyone up to the highest responsibility of Islam in this age.

We have succeeded in different ways. Last year, twenty leaders from the Muslim communities of Spain met with the Prime minister. We also visited the ministry of Justice, which deals with minorities and religion and we are visited regularly by the local governor. We are strongly attempting to establish that the Muslims have an important role to play in modern lives.

an interview with Abdulhasib Castiñeira, Director of the Granada Mosque, conducted in Germany, on the 30th of January.


702.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 03 Jul 2008 Thu 11:25 pm

Hummingbirds at the feeder on my terrace this morning. I just love them!

703.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Jul 2008 Fri 12:30 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

Hummingbirds at the feeder on my terrace this morning. I just love them!


I planted a lot of nasturtiums

and

Scarlet Runner beans

to eat and attract hummingbirds.

They came...but I notice they do not seem to see very well. When I was on my hammock with a floral shirt on, the hummingbird looked at it a looooong time...got very (really too) close before going to another flower. They do have long beaks. I have a cloth on a table that could be seen from outside the window that a hummingbird was fixated on as well. It drove the cats inside c r a z y!!!

The nasturtium has a sweet honey in the base of the flower. They also have nice seed pods that have a wasabi type of taste and effect. They are great in salads too.

The scarlet runner beans are also nice to eat.

edible flowers

704.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 04 Jul 2008 Fri 05:19 pm

Meltem is back!

705.       mltm
3690 posts
 04 Jul 2008 Fri 05:28 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Meltem is back!



Owww, thank you it has been some time.
You were not around, I should say welcome to you as well

706.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 04 Jul 2008 Fri 05:54 pm

Yilgun is king of the language forum lol

707.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Jul 2008 Fri 11:46 pm

Published on Friday, July 4, 2008 by ABC News
Protesters Interrupt Bush Holiday Speech





http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/04/10120/

708.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Jul 2008 Fri 11:59 pm

Secret Report: Biofuel Caused Food Crisis
Internal World Bank Study Delivers Blow to Plant Energy Drive


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/04/10103/

709.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 Jul 2008 Sat 04:29 am

"Peace begins with your beautiful smile." Thich Nhat Hanh

http://www.parallax.org/about_tnh.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3dM-GlZK8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlfK9zcyOu8&feature=related

710.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 05 Jul 2008 Sat 11:27 am

A photo of İzmir (konak) at the right upper side of the website. It confirmed once again what a warm feelings I have for that city, and now I feel all melancholic, in a way Orhan Pamuk would be proud of!

Just a little left..!

711.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 05 Jul 2008 Sat 09:58 pm

Such a very sad state of affairs:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jul/04/knifecrime.ukcrime2?gusrc=rss&feed=uknews

712.       geniuda
1070 posts
 05 Jul 2008 Sat 11:35 pm

Dare to be different??? I dont think I would want to be that different


IF you think tattoos are so over, you've got another think coming. The latest in permanent ink? Tats on your eyeball. That's right - a sharp stick in the eye. When doctors do it, it's called corneal tattooing; but when perfectly healthy folks looking for new horizons in tattooing, piercing, scarring, etc., do it, it's nuts.....
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07312007/entertainment/health/dont_turn_blind_eye_to_eye_tattoo_risks_health_dr__rock_positano.htm



Another related link (this one made my stomach.. )
Eye Tattooing: Dare to be different

713.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 Jul 2008 Sat 11:41 pm

Turks in Germany, this is a German Radio Program

http://www.3sat.de/mediathek/mediathek.php?obj=6489&mode=play

http://www.sommerblut.net/?p=272

714.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 04:06 pm

Turkish women attack clothing law

About 70 Turkish women have protested in Istanbul after a court found a woman guilty of exhibitionism for fishing in what was termed 'improper clothing'.

The protesters marched across the iconic Galata Bridge chanting slogans.

'It's not exhibitionism, it's male abuse!' and 'State, take your hands off my body!' they cried.

Rows of bemused fishermen watched as they passed - many were wearing strappy tops, flimsy sun-dresses with plunging necklines, or shorts.

The incident they were protesting about occurred last summer, on the same bridge, when men complained that the woman's clothing was 'improper.'

Turkish newspapers quote court documents as saying she was wearing a lightweight outfit like a nightdress, which blew up in the wind.

Last week a judge upheld the men's complaints.

'Conservative pressure'

Women protesters say finding the woman guilty of 'exhibitionism' is disturbing proof that conservative thinking is on the rise here.

'They think women should stay home and dress properly,' complains Cigdem Mater.

'The question is what is proper? No-one has the right to tell us what to wear, that is the point.'
None of the men who witnessed the actual incident were about on Saturday. But other fishermen expressed their disapproval at the ruling.

'I don't think anyone should be arrested because of their clothing. People cross this bridge wearing all sorts of things,' one of the fishermen said.

'But unfortunately there is conservative pressure on people now because we have a religious government.'

The AK Party - which is led by devout Muslims - has been in power since 2002. Some are concerned Turkey is becoming more conservative under its rule.

'Men here are not well educated,' another fishermen adds.

'It's the mothers that fail to teach them. But overall, the state sides with men when things should be equal.'

The protesters sang songs and carried banners calling for the law on exhibitionism to be overturned.

They argue it reinforces the patriarchal order in Turkey and discriminates against women.

Men who groped a woman on Taksim Square last New Year's Eve were fined 57 lira ($45, £23).

The fisherwoman in a flimsy dress was given a five-month suspended prison sentence for exhibitionism.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7491484.stm

715.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 04:51 pm

Zhang Ziyi's profile. It states gender as male but the photo looks female.

716.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 05:59 pm

Quoting peacetrain:

Zhang Ziyi's profile. It states gender as male but the photo looks female.



The photo doesnt look like female, she looks like a goddess, she is.
Zhang Ziyi is my idol. I worship her.

Your profile says you are none It means you are... nun ?

717.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 06:14 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:

Quoting peacetrain:

Zhang Ziyi's profile. It states gender as male but the photo looks female.



The photo doesnt look like female, she looks like a goddess, she is.
Zhang Ziyi is my idol. I worship her.

Your profile says you are none It means you are... nun ?



Ha ha ha Sorry ZZ, my mistake.

No I'm not a nun

718.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 11:34 pm

Nadal

What a final it was!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7490443.stm

719.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 08:45 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Nadal

What a final it was!!


It was brilliant! Quite fun to watch. I was rooting for Nadal but I couldn't help but feel bad for Federer...he is always such a class act.

720.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 08:48 am

Quoting geniuda:


Dare to be different??? I dont think I would want to be that different


Oh dear god! Why on earth would anyone do that????

721.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 09:49 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Nadal

What a final it was!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7490443.stm



Amaaaaaaaaaaazinggggggg! Probably the best Wimbledon final I ever watched! I didn't think it would ever end hehe!

Well done to Nadal
Majorca will be going crazy celebrating. It is a great sporting year for Spain!

722.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 11:34 am

Quoting zhang ziyi:

Quoting peacetrain:


Your profile says you are none It means you are... nun ?



lol lol lol - very witty Zhang!

723.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 02:50 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting thehandsom:

Nadal

What a final it was!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7490443.stm



Amaaaaaaaaaaazinggggggg! Probably the best Wimbledon final I ever watched! I didn't think it would ever end hehe!

Well done to Nadal
Majorca will be going crazy celebrating. It is a great sporting year for Spain!



Here here!! Over 5 hours of watching TV !!!

724.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:04 am

Do not watch if you are sensitive to graphic picture's


Very graphic and terribly sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwWJZ1MiApw&feature=related

725.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 08:30 am

Sports bra saves woman...........

An American hiker stranded in the Bavarian Alps for nearly three days was rescued after using her sports bra as a signal, police in southern Germany said Monday.

Berchtesgaden police officer Lorenz Rasp said that he helped lift 24-year-old Jessica Bruinsma of Colorado to safety by helicopter on Thursday after she attracted the attention of lumberjacks by attaching her sports bra to a cable used to move timber down the mountain.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25333829/

726.       geniuda
1070 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 08:50 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Do not watch if you are sensitive to graphic picture's


Very graphic and terribly sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwWJZ1MiApw&feature=related


Before I even try it
Can you let us know what it is this video about?

727.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 03:08 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Sports bra saves woman...........

An American hiker stranded in the Bavarian Alps for nearly three days was rescued after using her sports bra as a signal, police in southern Germany said Monday.

Berchtesgaden police officer Lorenz Rasp said that he helped lift 24-year-old Jessica Bruinsma of Colorado to safety by helicopter on Thursday after she attracted the attention of lumberjacks by attaching her sports bra to a cable used to move timber down the mountain.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25333829/



Haha ! Must have been a big sports bra! I dont think mine would draw attention to it, if I waved it about lol

728.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 03:43 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting girleegirl:

Sports bra saves woman...........

An American hiker stranded in the Bavarian Alps for nearly three days was rescued after using her sports bra as a signal, police in southern Germany said Monday.

Berchtesgaden police officer Lorenz Rasp said that he helped lift 24-year-old Jessica Bruinsma of Colorado to safety by helicopter on Thursday after she attracted the attention of lumberjacks by attaching her sports bra to a cable used to move timber down the mountain.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25333829/



Haha ! Must have been a big sports bra! I dont think mine would draw attention to it, if I waved it about lol



maybe there was reflectors around the bra

729.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 09:09 pm

The violation of our privacy due to media

Dr. Gary Gumpert stated that we live in a complex world where we depend on the other for information and we do it by relying on communication technology. However this technology is used sometimes against our human rights. For instance, the government developed the extremes ability to watch the other. In the U.K. due to fear of terrorism 4.2 million cameras watch 6 million people. The question that pops into the mind is: How does this relate to privacy, free expression, the right to be alone, the trust one place in his/her leaders, governments? It seems like it's the invasion of our privacy even if they do it for security reasons. Besides surveillance cameras are another matter. Usually they are used by police departments in order to collect information. They do it privately and one is never free from observation. It's like as if there was a transperent curtain on all of us. So, from all these it is perceived that technology hinders our privacy considerably without our knowing. It's because the digitalization has led to the manipulation of the mankind.

Electronic reality
Dr. Gary Gumpert focused on the idea of the trust in media in his lecture. The role of technology in our life is changing its dimension. It is entering the limits of people's privacy in addition to its advantages. He questioned if the media with the help of technology tells the truth to the audiences. He mentioned about the protection the government provides with the exchange of freedom. The more we ask for protection the more we lose from our freedom because technology makes the government able to watch people without their realization. Dr. Gumpert calls this system as “social contract”. This contract depends on the bridge of trust. However, the question is who we should or can trust? This contract contradicts with the idea of privacy. In developed countries such as UK and USA, technology has almost eliminated privacy. Satellites are watching people. They are like under surveillance as Dr. Gumpert called.
He supported his arguments with a slide show and showed how live broadcastings are actually not real. There is a considerable amount of time between the moment someone talks in a live program and the moment it reaches you. Meanwhile, there can be made many chances in the live program which we think is absolute truth. Live screens can be delayed or stopped with machines which he calls “magical machines”.
Briefly, he questioned what we see may not be the truth. Technology plays a great role in this irony. Dr. Gumpert underlined that, it has reached its point to violate human rights for privacy in some countries. It makes us feel scary for the future.


http://www.khas.edu.tr/bukalemun/chl_main.html


730.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 05:41 am

731.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 06:09 am

Quoting Roswitha:

The violation of our privacy due to media


Very interesting, Ros!

732.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 11:59 am

Bikini-free Islamic tourism booms in Turkey



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/2261947/Bikini-free-Islamic-tourism-booms-in-Turkey.html

733.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 12:55 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:

Bikini-free Islamic tourism booms in Turkey



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/2261947/Bikini-free-Islamic-tourism-booms-in-Turkey.html



i dont think this is funny... everybody has their own way to have fun

as long as they have the money

734.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 05:36 pm

For ladies who are not happy with their boobs
breast enlargement using acupuncture

White Lotus Cosmetic Acupuncture's method of breast enlargement using acupuncture. Its been described as the new boob job for ladies who don't want to undergo a boob job. Women who are unhappy with their breasts can now have revolutionary treatment, which promises larger and more perky boobs without having to resort to implant surgery. A clinic in Queensland, Australia, arranges cosmetic acupuncture for clients - a procedure which involves having needles inserted under the skin to stimulate blood flow to the chest area.


ps..I wonder if I should put up some pictures of Perky boobs..

735.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 06:25 pm

Now, why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh?

736.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 08:43 pm

British woman faces six years for sex on Dubai beach

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4300911.ece

737.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 08:58 pm

Quoting peacetrain:

Now, why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh?


+100000

yet another barbaric fashion of the west - women mutilating their bodies for the sake of men. similar to chinese women in the past cutting their feet to make them smaller because it was seen as attractive... :-S

738.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 09:38 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting peacetrain:

Now, why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh?


+100000

yet another barbaric fashion of the west - women mutilating their bodies for the sake of men. similar to chinese women in the past cutting their feet to make them smaller because it was seen as attractive... :-S



There are women who want boob jobs for some of the same reasons as they change their hair color, wear makeup. We are always looking to improve or maybe impress someone other than ourselves. Why are we not content with our natural bodies and appearance? Whether it's wanting bigger boobs, hating our nose, wishing we didn't have freckles..does this resort from the pressures of male society? I think it's only part of the equation.

739.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 10:23 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting peacetrain:

Now, why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh?


+100000

yet another barbaric fashion of the west - women mutilating their bodies for the sake of men. similar to chinese women in the past cutting their feet to make them smaller because it was seen as attractive... :-S



There are women who want boob jobs for some of the same reasons as they change their hair color, wear makeup. We are always looking to improve or maybe impress someone other than ourselves. Why are we not content with our natural bodies and appearance? Whether it's wanting bigger boobs, hating our nose, wishing we didn't have freckles..does this resort from the pressures of male society? I think it's only part of the equation.


why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh
I can think of a few answers: to stop their man constantly looking at other girls with 'big' boobs; not to deny the fullfilling feelings from their partners; self confidence..

But i agree with you teas. why should 'having boob job' be more different than painting toe nails or dying hair..

740.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 10:31 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh
I can think of a few answers: to stop their man constantly looking at other girls with 'big' boobs; not to deny the fullfilling feelings from their partners; self confidence..

But i agree with you teas. why should 'having boob job' be more different than painting toe nails or dying hair..


Handsom, this answer is not worthy of you, it is pathetic. I believe you can do better!

741.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 10:33 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh
I can think of a few answers: to stop their man constantly looking at other girls with 'big' boobs; not to deny the fullfilling feelings from their partners; self confidence..

But i agree with you teas. why should 'having boob job' be more different than painting toe nails or dying hair..


Handsom, this answer is not worthy of you, it is pathetic. I believe you can do better!



I think the last part of his post was accurate.

742.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 10:35 pm

Quoting teaschip:

I think the last part of his post was accurate.


Well... if he wrote "I agree with you catwoman, everything you say is spot-on", I would also say that he's accurate!

743.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Jul 2008 Thu 02:05 am

Juan Cole- Iraq's Three Civil Wars: Is the US Relevant to Them?

http://techtv.mit.edu/file/507

744.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 11 Jul 2008 Fri 09:52 pm

Sexual healer dies aged 128

An Indonesian woman who was famous across Asia for her supposedly supernatural powers of sexual healing has died at the age of 128, according to her family.

Mak Erot developed a family business empire offering penis extensions and cures for other sexual maladies using the power of Muslim prayer and a cocktail of 141 herbs. One of her 40 grandchildren, Haji Saifuloh, 37, explained that the secret was revealed when Mak Erot prayed for 141 days following the death of her mother in the 1940s.

"Her prayer was answered with this gift of sexual healing," he said. A voice from the spirit world told his grandmother, "You can cure anyone who has a small penis or whose penis has died. You can cure them!"

Her early patients were occupying Japanese soldiers during the Second World War and the first clinic opened in 1945. The enterprise grew as dramatically as Mak Erot claimed her patients did. Now there are several clinics around the country including Haji Saifuloh's, which he recently moved to a Jakarta hotel to take advantage of the extra parking.

The Telegraph recently visited the ill-lit room in the hotel where he practises his skills. A collection of wooden phalluses which patients can choose between as a model for their own was on display.

"Doctors are amazed with the results of our herbs," he boasted. "The famous sexologists have given our clinics the thumbs up."

He said that "countless" satisfied customers have paid him £40 each for a 30-minute consultation. "It always works," he claimed.

The claims made for Mak Erot's powers were large and, whatever their truth or otherwise, found a wide audience of believers. Indonesian newspapers carry many advertisements for imitators seeking to associate themselves with her talents.

Earlier this year her fame reached the silver screen in the teen comedy "Between you, me and Mak Erot". In the film the young protagonist launches himself on a series of sexual adventures but his partners find the encounters unrewarding. His problems worsen when he consults one of Mak Erot's imitators rather than the old lady herself.

"The audience laughed all the way through," said Suyadi, 68, a cinema employee.

745.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 12:34 am


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/you-write-the-caption--190208-784174.html

The possibilities are endless

746.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 04:43 pm

I CALL IT THE ABSENCE OF HONOR

Dönek John McCain, ki: karaktersiz biridir.



Different hero, different war
John McCain's first wife won't say a harsh word about the man who dumped her. Is she a spineless wimp or a quiet hero?

http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/03/06/carol/index.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

I really don’t care if McCain’s trophy wife is proud of her country. She is just another GOP Stepford Wife as vacant as the previous ones. Whoopie for anorexic-looking Cindy McCain in her red $5000 Yves St. Laurent power suit, with her triple string of cultured pears, her bleached blond hair and her shiny new face-lift telling us she’s proud of America.

Cindy sometimes looks like a wax replica of a political spouse.


747.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:16 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfbygWnBTqo

What does it say? Ist just an ad spot?

748.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:27 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfbygWnBTqo

What does it say? Ist just an ad spot?


It's the ad of the secular republican newspaper "Cumhuriyet".

The woman with the headscarfe saying with a male voice "It's ofcourse me who decides what I want", and then the announcer says "the woman of the republic is being destroyed/disappeared"

749.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 12 Jul 2008 Sat 11:02 pm

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750.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 13 Jul 2008 Sun 08:23 pm

The movie: the Kite Runner

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/movies/04kite.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

751.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 14 Jul 2008 Mon 12:56 am

Quoting Roswitha:

The movie: the Kite Runner

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/movies/04kite.html?_r=1&oref=slogin



I've just bought the novel "A Thousand Splendid Suns" by Khaled Hosseini. I've never read "The Kite Runner" but may do if I enjoy this text whilst on holiday (guess where )

752.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Jul 2008 Mon 02:26 am

Jafar Panahi's "Offside"

Protected from the Profanities of the Bellowing Fans

The Iranian film "Offside" is about a group of girl soccer fans who smuggle themselves into Tehran's Azadi Stadium, despite the ban on women spectators. Ariana Mirza presents Offside and its director Jafar Panahi

"Offside" has been awarded the Silver Bear Jury Prize at the Berlinale international film festival. The decision to feature Iranian films at the festival was both hailed and criticized
| She is pretty. Neither a baseball cap nor war paint is enough to disguise her. She has hardly made it into the stadium before being discovered. In an improvised detention room, half a dozen girls are waiting to be transported by the vice squad. These young Iranian women refuse to bow to the absurd ban on female spectators at stadiums.

In Offside, Jafar Panahi tells the conciliatory tale of a brave young woman and a good-natured soldier. The comedy with a double happy end takes place in 2005 during the Soccer World Cup qualification round between Bahrain and Iran.

Although the whole country can be seen united in its hope for victory, women are still not permitted to attend the games. And what is the justification for this discriminatory ban? No one has a convincing answer. Not even the recruits from the provinces, who have been assigned to guard the girls.

Outmatched by their captive adversaries

Jafar Panahi allows his heroines to express themselves in their own words. The film's framework was delineated from the start, but the girls' outrage is real and they all have their own arguments against the ban. "This is absolute nonsense. We are allowed to go to the movies and even sit next to men – in the dark!"

Jafar Panahi's uncritical criticism: The societal circumstances are demasked as preposterous, but no one is explicitly blamed
| One of the guards shyly responds that women must be protected from the profanities of the bellowing fans, only to get an earful of profanity from one of the detainees, a self-conscious girl from the capital.

His choice of male protagonists also shows Jafar Panahi has a good sense for character. The young amateur performers convincingly convey an attitude towards life that highlights their yearning for the peace and quiet back home on the farm. The young soldiers from the provinces prove to be awkward and reluctant guards of the quick-witted girls from the capital. The naïve country boys are outmatched by their captive adversaries, and not only in their knowledge of soccer.

Offside is a comedy filmed in a neo-realist style. The realistic genre of production has a tradition in Iran going back to the pioneering film work of Abbas Kiarostami. The 45-year-old Jafar Panahi acquired his first feature film experience as assistant director to Kiarostami. The quiet, yet penetrating narrative style of the old master can be observed in all of Panahi's previous films.

In an interview with the press, Panahi made clear just how dependant the development of the film was on real events. "If Iran had lost against Bahrain, I wouldn't have shot the film to the end." That is because the overflowing joy after the winning qualification game was absolutely necessary for the plot. Only the subsequent general delirium on the streets of Tehran makes the happy end of the story plausible.

Laurels abroad

Jafar Panahi's last film, Talaye Sorkh (Crimson Gold), made in 2003, was not allowed to be shown in Iran. The screenplay for Offside was credited to Shadmehr Rastin, a colleague of Panahi unknown to the censorship authorities. Panahi didn't want to endanger approval for shooting. Now, after the film's success at the Berlinale, the director hopes that Offside will also be seen by the Iranian public.

Panahi declared in Berlin, however, that if the censors mar his film with cuts, he would prefer not to screen the film in his home country.

Offside repeatedly makes clear to the viewer just how important Iran is for Panahi. When, at the end of the film, the Iranian anthem "Oh land of jewels, your soil is the wellspring of the arts" strikes up, remarkably enough, the patriotic emotionalism doesn't seem naïve and artificial, but rather comes across as a solemn declaration of love.

One can only hope that the Iranian censorship authorities judge the patriotic tone of the film as an important point in its favor. This subtle comedy and its unmistakable plea for women's rights should have the chance to be seen in Iran.


Bahman Ghobadi and New Kurdish Cinema
Ten Movie Theaters for 40 Million People
At the Berlin Film Festival, Bahman Ghobadi's "Turtles Can Fly" confronts viewers with the current situation in the Kurdish region of Iraq. Ariana Mirza reports on Ghobadi's latest project and the special intensity of Kurdish films

Interview Hany Abu-Assad
Shooting "Paradise Now" amid Israeli Rockets
The film "Paradise Now" by Hany Abu-Assad, which was shown in competition at this year's Berlin Film Festival, is the first feature film to take on the theme of suicide bombers. Igal Avidan interviewed the Palestinian filmmaker

Dossier
Iranian Cinema
Iran's film culture has been transformed since the Islamic revolution: from the state propaganda films to today's socially critical productions. We take a look at the various facets and examine its resonance in the WestPublished: 28.02.2006 - Last modified: 28.02.2006


753.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 03:33 pm

Beautiful Muslimah

http://bp0.blogger.com/_PGM5komqCws/SHtqVbEeCwI/AAAAAAAACwE/ZtARZktptic/s1600-h/pearls.jpg

http://beautifulmuslimah.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html


http://bp3.blogger.com/_PGM5komqCws/R8DQk11KGFI/AAAAAAAAAos/x6ubAR2ozXY/s1600-h/niqab.bmp

Veiled riding a motocycle



754.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 12:00 am

Drugs to Build Bones May Weaken Them


http://www.nytimes.com:80/2008/07/15/health/15well.html?ex=1216785600&en=02dd6c110b1febbe&ei=5070&emc=eta1

755.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 12:04 am

Kidnapped, Islamized and tattooed Armenian women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2JwURWHWKA

The tattoos are so ugly. Why did women choose to be tattooed like this? Barbaric!

756.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 12:33 am

Quoting zhang ziyi:

The tattoos are so ugly. Why did women choose to be tattooed like this? Barbaric!



I don't know...Tattoos in China you tell me?

757.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 12:52 am

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758.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 01:29 am

Quoting zhang ziyi:



I suppose Chinese are free to tattoo even their bottoms
They were not kidnapped, forced into Buddhism and then tattooed into slavery.

Btw, I found your respond very strange. Your way of communication is a bit like childish not of a grown-up.

I speak of grapes and you think I meant water-melons.



I think I have a very good idea of your intention. Actually I find most of your posts very odd, and quite frankly, offensive.

It seems you really don't like Muslims, are suspicious adn distrustful of Turks and really don't have much nice to say about those peoples. You post things about things you really don't know much about. You don't include your references, but expect everyone just to accept what you post.

759.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 05:15 am

How To Avoid Dioxin

We now know that dioxin exhibits serious health effects when it reaches as little as a few parts per trillion in your body fat. Dioxin is a powerful hormone disrupting chemical. By binding to a cell's hormone receptor, it literally modifies the functioning and genetic mechanism of the cell, causing a wide range of effects, from cancer to reduced immunity to nervous system disorders to miscarriages and birth deformity. Because it literally changes the functioning of your cells, the effects can be very obvious or very subtle. Because it changes gene functions, it can cause so-called genetic diseases to appear, and can interfere with child development. There is no "threshold" dose - the tiniest amount can cause damage, and our bodies have no defense against it.

http://www.cqs.com/edioxin.htm

760.       KeithL
1455 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 06:17 am

Quoting Roswitha:

How To Avoid Dioxin

We now know that dioxin exhibits serious health effects when it reaches as little as a few parts per trillion in your body fat. Dioxin is a powerful hormone disrupting chemical. By binding to a cell's hormone receptor, it literally modifies the functioning and genetic mechanism of the cell, causing a wide range of effects, from cancer to reduced immunity to nervous system disorders to miscarriages and birth deformity. Because it literally changes the functioning of your cells, the effects can be very obvious or very subtle. Because it changes gene functions, it can cause so-called genetic diseases to appear, and can interfere with child development. There is no "threshold" dose - the tiniest amount can cause damage, and our bodies have no defense against it.

http://www.cqs.com/edioxin.htm



polychlorinated dibenzo dioxins and polychlorinated dibenzo furans (PCDD/PCDF) may be the most toxic substances known to man. The biggest threat exposure to PCDD and PCDF's is from the incineration of plastics. Those who live closest to municipal waste and biological waste incinerators are most at risk. Also, open garbage burning and plastics on campfires is another way PCDD/PCDF's are created.
Best way to avoid exposure is to avoid open burning.

761.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 11:19 am

Roswitha, KeithL - I forbid you to revive my secondary school nightmares - you're like my biology and chemistry teachers combined! I'm beginning to have a trauma again!

762.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Jul 2008 Wed 09:22 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Roswitha, KeithL - I forbid you to revive my secondary school nightmares - you're like my biology and chemistry teachers combined! I'm beginning to have a trauma again!



Poor Daydreamer....maybe they should have posted these in the translation forum...I think it says, "exposure to chemicals is BAD!"

763.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 11:40 am

Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo

..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1538025320080716?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

764.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 04:17 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo

..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1538025320080716?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0



Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.

765.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 10:09 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting thehandsom:

Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo

..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1538025320080716?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0



Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.



But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?

You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!

Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..

is that it?


766.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 02:10 am

Quoting teaschip:


Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.



Lucky to be alive!!!!

There is a very large gap between what happened and cable TV! You know sometimes people would rather not be alive under these conditions.....and we know all too well the results of that.

Geneva Conventions

were created for a reason. What has been done to the 'prisoners' or what ever they are is a disgrace, and in the opinion of many knowledgable people, a war crime.

In my opinion this is a betrayal to the US citizens as well.

Torture Team

Remember your words in 20 years or more, and then remember how Americans asked what happened to the Germans during the Nazi period.

Feith in the System

767.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 02:12 am

Quoting thehandsom:



But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?

You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!

Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..

is that it?





I can't tell you how ashamed I am of these actions.....deeply ashamed!

768.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 03:35 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..

is that it?


That is true to a certain extent. Human rights of non-Americans are violated because the US can get away with it. When they can get away with violating human rights and democracy at home, they do that too. One blatant example are the stolen elections in 2004.
All the foreign conquests are only benefiting a tiny minority of rich Americans - owners of corporations. 90% of people are living in increasingly worse conditions, with less rights, in more poverty, less healthcare every day (a while ago bush didn't sign some document which resulted in taking away some important healthcare benefits for children, recently the government cut 10% of medicare payments to doctors)..

769.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 04:08 am

Six wounded in Jordan bus attack

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080717/wl_mideast_afp/jordanattackstourism_080717112417

770.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 06:24 am

Quoting thehandsom:


But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?

You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!

Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..

is that it?


You hit it right on the head handsom. The US treatment of prisoners held at Guantanamo is abhorrent. Our government would be screamning at the top of their lungs if another country was doing the same to American citizens.
I can only hope that we elect a new President that will end the insanity and do the right thing. It's time to prove the charges or let these people go!!!

771.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 06:55 am

Quoting alameda:

Lucky to be alive!!!!

There is a very large gap between what happened and cable TV! You know sometimes people would rather not be alive under these conditions.....and we know all too well the results of that.

Geneva Conventions

were created for a reason. What has been done to the 'prisoners' or what ever they are is a disgrace, and in the opinion of many knowledgable people, a war crime.

In my opinion this is a betrayal to the US citizens as well.

Torture Team

Remember your words in 20 years or more, and then remember how Americans asked what happened to the Germans during the Nazi period.

Feith in the System


Do I agree with you again..?

772.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 03:40 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting thehandsom:

Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo

..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN1538025320080716?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0



Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.



But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?

You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!

Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..

is that it?




Please reread my first sentence."Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated". I guess this got lost somehow. Yes, there has been mistreatment, but I also don't have alot of sympathy for terrorists. I dont believe that terrorists should have any rights and since they are not protected under the U.S. Constitution, should they be tied up in the U.S. Courtsystem. They do have access to the International Red Cross & civilian lawyers.

So what do we do take them all back to the U.S.? They would be executed in civilian prisons. Some of these people who have been released, their own countries don't even want them back.

773.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 07:16 pm

A Declaration of Independence From Israel

Israel, without the United States, would probably not exist. The country came perilously close to extinction during the October 1973 war when Egypt, trained and backed by the Soviet Union, crossed the Suez and the Syrians poured in over the Golan Heights. Huge American military transport planes came to the rescue. They began landing every half-hour to refit the battered Israeli army, which had lost most of its heavy armor. By the time the war was over, the United States had given Israel $2.2 billion in emergency military aid.

The intervention, which enraged the Arab world, triggered the OPEC oil embargo that for a time wreaked havoc on Western economies. This was perhaps the most dramatic example of the sustained life-support system the United States has provided to the Jewish state.

Israel was born at midnight May 14, 1948. The U.S. recognized the new state 11 minutes later. The two countries have been locked in a deadly embrace ever since.

Washington, at the beginning of the relationship, was able to be a moderating influence. An incensed President Eisenhower demanded and got Israel’s withdrawal after the Israelis occupied Gaza in 1956. During the Six-Day War in 1967, Israeli warplanes bombed the USS Liberty. The ship, flying the U.S. flag and stationed 15 miles off the Israeli coast, was intercepting tactical and strategic communications from both sides. The Israeli strikes killed 34 U.S. sailors and wounded 171. The deliberate attack froze, for a while, Washington’s enthusiasm for Israel. But ruptures like this one proved to be only bumps, soon smoothed out by an increasingly sophisticated and well-financed Israel lobby that set out to merge Israeli and American foreign policy in the Middle East.

Israel has reaped tremendous rewards from this alliance. It has been given more than $140 billion in U.S. direct economic and military assistance. It receives about $3 billion in direct assistance annually, roughly one-fifth of the U.S. foreign aid budget. Although most American foreign aid packages stipulate that related military purchases have to be made in the United States, Israel is allowed to use about 25 percent of the money to subsidize its own growing and profitable defense industry. It is exempt, unlike other nations, from accounting for how it spends the aid money. And funds are routinely siphoned off to build new Jewish settlements, bolster the Israeli occupation in the Palestinian territories and construct the security barrier, which costs an estimated $1 million a mile.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070702_a_declaration_of_independence_from_israel/

774.       MrX67
2540 posts
 18 Jul 2008 Fri 11:28 pm

i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...

775.       bydand
755 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 12:02 am

Quoting MrX67:

i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...



Now Ayhan this is careless talk, the thought police will come and take you away. We do not want peace and harmony on this site.

776.       MrX67
2540 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 12:09 am

Quoting bydand:

Quoting MrX67:

i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...



Now Ayhan this is careless talk, the thought police will come and take you away. We do not want peace and harmony on this site.

hey John,thats great to see you again after long time ''abi'',shh don't say to polices where i'm pls

777.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 12:26 am

Quoting MrX67:

i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...



It's always heartening to hear such stories. Thank you 67

778.       MrX67
2540 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 12:29 am

Quoting peacetrain:

Quoting MrX67:

i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...



It's always heartening to hear such stories. Thank you 67

its not a story really peace,thats only real face of Turk&Kurd brothership,but pity a very little minority trying to show it as a big problem for their political prejudices and hates..

779.       alameda
3499 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 01:58 am

Quoting MrX67:

i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...



Yes, I was at a wedding a few years ago where there was a big mix of Kurds and Turks all getting along and much love. I think it happens more often than most realize.

780.       lady in red
6947 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 12:54 pm

Now you bed Amerikans know what we Brits have had to put up with for years!! But this all sounds a wee bit desperate!



Desperate for Gas



781.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 01:18 pm

Turkey´s first gay honour killing?

Ahmet Yildiz, 26, a physics student who represented his country at an international gay gathering in San Francisco last year, was shot leaving a cafe near the Bosphorus strait this week. Fatally wounded, the student tried to flee the attackers in his car, but lost control, crashed at the side of the road and died shortly afterwards in hospital. His friends believe Mr Yildiz was the victim of the country´s first gay honour killing.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/was-ahmet-yildiz-the-victim-of-turkeys-first-gay-honour-killing-871822.html

782.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 10:47 pm

Almost half of Egyptian women harassed daily: poll

CAIRO (AFP) - Almost half of Egyptian women are sexually harassed on a daily basis with more than half of Egyptian men admitting lewd behaviour, the Egyptian Centre for Women´s Rights said on Thursday.
The group polled 2,020 people -- including men and foreign women -- in Cairo, and the centre´s director, Nihad Abul Qomsan, said that the figures showed harassment was on the rise.

Of those surveyed, 83 percent of Egyptian women and 98 percent of foreign women said they had been harassed at some point, while 46 percent of Egyptian women and 52 percent of foreign women said they were harassed daily.

Most women said they were harassed in the street or on public transport, with harassment defined as "any unwelcome behaviour of a sexual nature which makes women feel uneasy and gives them a feeling of insecurity."

Abul Qomsan said that almost two-thirds of Egyptian men -- 62 percent -- admitted harassing women, including those wearing Islamic headscarves.

"This shows that the belief that harassment is linked to women who wear indecent clothing is false," she said, condemning the fact that in the deeply religious country women often feel responsible despite being victims.

The centre said that last year only 12 percent of women went to the police with a harassment complaint.

In 2006, women´s rights activists angrily spoke out against what they called the authorities´ acceptance of sexual harassment against women, after a mob of men openly molested women in central Cairo.

The interior ministry said it did not receive any formal complaints and has never admitted any mass harassment occurred despite the incident being widely reported in the press and some bloggers posting footage on the Internet.

783.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 10:56 pm

A nationwide survey showed that about 71 per cent of Chinese women have been sexually harassed in their lives.

She said that sexual harassment is a problem commonly confronted by women but so far she has not accepted any such cases because few women have been willing to speak out about their experience, let alone bring it to court.

Sexual harassment mainly happens in two places: public transportation and the workplace.

ps..I am just trying to prove that how easy to find these things

lol lol

784.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:13 pm

All state pupils may be taught Islamic traditions as part of compulsory citizenship lessons



State school pupils are set to be taught Islamic traditions and values in compulsory citizenship lessons.



The move - part of a package of initiatives announced by Communities Secretary Hazel Blears yesterday - is designed to curb extremism.



Education campaigners warned however against giving Islam a privileged position over other faiths.



Other plans announced by Miss Blears also drew criticism - including a state-funded panel of Islamic scholars and theologians to provide community leadership.



Prominent Muslims said this scheme was naive because Government endorsement would erode the credibility of those taking part, especially among the young and disaffected.



Another measure will see Muslim children being taught citizenship lessons by imams in mosque schools - in the hope that they will be better equipped to resist extremist messages.



Many Muslim youngsters in the UK attend evening classes at madrassah schools attached to mosques, where imams give instruction in the Koran and Islamic history.



Ministers want imams to stress that the Koran places a duty on all Muslims to be good neighbours, carry out voluntary work and play an active part in civic society.

Pilot schemes will begin in October in London, Leicester, Birmingham, Oldham, Rochdale, and Bradford.



The Department for Communities and Local Government has tasked the Islam & Citizenship Education group with producing the teaching materials for mosques.



The organisation, however, wants to extend its remit to mainstream state schools by ´teaching Islamic traditions and values in the school citizenship curriculum´.



David Conway, senior research fellow at the Civitas think-tank, said: ´Some will see this as another sign of a creeping process of Islamisation - an insidious process which plays down the Christian basis of our culture and encourages children to learn more and more about Islam´s contribution.



´Muslims are still a relatively small minority in Britain and, while I have nothing against children in our multi-religious society learning about each other´s faiths, for one particular faith to be privileged in mainstream schools seems to me pointless, and won´t make for greater harmony.



´I fear it will play into the hands of the small minority who want to see the Islamisation of Europe, and believe they will triumph through sheer numbers.´



Unlike religious education classes, citizenship lessons, which do not cover issues of belief, are compulsory.



Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: ´We should not single out one particular faith. Citizenship is supposed to be secular.



´Children can learn about particular religious values in religious education lessons. That´s why parents have the right to withdraw. It´s a very different matter to promote a particular faith´s values as part of compulsory citizenship lessons.



´It seems to me dangerous to single out the one faith which is probably linked to the most problems with terrorism at the moment for special treatment.´



Khalid Mahmood, project manager of Islam & Citizenship Education, stressed that the project was at a very early stage.



He said: ´The material is being developed for the madrassahs but we are putting it together so that people in mainstream schools would also be able to use it.´



Miss Blears announced details of the panel of 20 leading Muslim experts which will have £100,000 in state funding.



Based at Cambridge University, the experts will be expected to compile reports on key issues in the lives of British Muslims, such as the wearing of Islamic veils by women.



Miss Blears insisted the new panel would be independent, adding: ´It is not for Government to dictate on matters of faith or religious teaching.´



Dr Azzam Tamimi, of the Institute of Islamic Political Thought in London, said the scheme was doomed to failure.



He said: ´This is a naive initiative. This not how Muslim education or awareness works.



´When a Muslim individual seeks advice or knowledge he or she would usually go to a person they consider to be credible or an authority, and usually Muslims are suspicious of government-sponsored or organised commissions.´



Dr Tamimi told BBC Radio 4´s Today Programme ministers were trying to dictate to Muslims over religious awareness and education.

785.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:16 pm

Iran: Death to non-Muslims



Lawmakers in Iran are considering a proposal to make the death penalty automatic for those who leave the Muslim faith.







Abe Ghafari of Iranian Christians International, Inc. (ICI) was at least a little surprised to learn the news. "Before, it was like an option that an Islamic judge could decide to use or not to use -- but now it will become an automatic thing. And from the language of the legislation, it seems like something that cannot be appealed," Ghafari contends.



The death penalty would primarily apply to those who convert to the Christian faith. "There are large numbers of conversions from Islam, maybe even in the tens of thousands every year, and this is causing concern in the Islamic circles in Iran," Ghafari explains.



People who use the Internet to convert people away from the Muslim faith will also be subject to the death penalty. Ghafari was asked if this information shocked him. "Yes, it does a bit because we do know that under Islamic law of Iran, there was always this option of issuing death penalties for any conversions from Islam. So this was already available, but it looks like they just want to escalate persecution – making the death penalty almost automatic for anyone who converts from Islam," Ghafari adds.

786.       CANLI
5084 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:20 pm

ZZ likes me so much lol
How nice that JUST our news are at the regular daily news which cought zz eyes

´´ According to the 2006 census figures, the population, including those living abroad, is estimated to have reached 76.5 million at a growth rate of 37% over the 1996 figure.
Males :37,100,855
Females : 35,478,177 ´´

Now we are almost 80 Million,so yes,those percentage must be even logical too
We are a country which women NORMALLY,and daily too been harassed by men,then report it !
We spend our day in police stations reporting lol

Bad Easterns,Bad Muslims

787.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:20 pm

Two unidentified Afghan Women chat with each other a few minutes before they were executed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on late Saturday, July 12, 2008.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193294.php

788.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:22 pm

.

789.       CANLI
5084 posts
 19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:25 pm

Quoting zhang ziyi:



I´m glad you enjoy the news I brought in



Awwwww,always enjoy your news ZZ,makes me feel not alone in this world,and realize how much you care lol

But if its not that much trouble to you,can you provide links of what you post?
İ would like to read it first hand .

790.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Jul 2008 Sun 02:18 am

Quoting CANLI:

How nice that JUST our news are at the regular daily news which cought zz eyes


lol

791.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 20 Jul 2008 Sun 02:58 pm

A few recipes

http://www.yogurtland.com/

792.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 20 Jul 2008 Sun 03:59 pm

The famous voice of Abdel Halim Hafez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StUMKEgqleM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXpQqBkIAyc

793.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Jul 2008 Sun 07:56 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

The famous voice of Abdel Halim Hafez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StUMKEgqleM


The rest of that song is that,its a long one tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmGY9LrDmN0&feature=related

This song was at a very famous movie called Audience Idol ´Ma´abodat el gamahir´ معبوده الجماهير the movie was between him and a very famouse singer too called Şadia
Was one of the greatest movies,contain many great songs too,some of them are

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHV5b2J22P4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3XT_-DrnTI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbTdLjew1w8&feature=related

That was his funeral,many girls commited suicided at that time,it was something at 70th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVArHBf4XeA&feature=related

794.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Jul 2008 Sun 08:27 pm

This is for you Ros,
The song that very much close to everyone´s heart specially if they were travelling abroad
Called Sawah means the one who travel much and not settling on one place

İ have tried to find video of the whole song its long,that one is old but longest as i could find
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9lXn69a2_k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBXMIV093v8

Search this سواح the name of the song you will find many
عبد الحليم حافظ the name of singer

Ps:i can send you some of his songs if you like,pm me about it.

795.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 21 Jul 2008 Mon 02:37 am

One day I will go back to the Czech Republic and visit the famous paintings by Alfon Mucha´s called the Slav Epic

http://www.booksplendour.net/gallery/classics/Mucha2/mucha27.jpg

www.booksplendour.net/gallery/classics/Mucha2/mucha27.jpg

796.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 21 Jul 2008 Mon 03:18 am

A Power Governments Cannot Suppress, by Howard Zinn

http://www.akpress.org/2006/items/powergovernmentscannotsuppress

797.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jul 2008 Tue 03:01 pm

Butcher of Bosnia is arrested..

Captured Bosnian Serb war crimes suspect Radovan Karadzic was practising alternative medicine and living in Serbia´s capital, Belgrade.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7519039.stm

798.       teaschip
3870 posts
 22 Jul 2008 Tue 05:06 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Butcher of Bosnia is arrested..

Captured Bosnian Serb war crimes suspect Radovan Karadzic was practising alternative medicine and living in Serbia´s capital, Belgrade.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7519039.stm



It´s about time...

799.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 12:33 am

The date on my flight tickets . . . I thought 23rd was Thursday but WEDNESDAY jumped out at me when I went to check my flight times, and I´ve been running round like a headless chicken for the rest of the day. No sleep for me tonight.

800.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 01:28 am

Have a wonderful trip PC

801.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 02:01 am

Key Largo videohttp://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=8930572&ch=4226713&src=news

802.       MrX67
2540 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 12:10 am

i watched the city which i live in from a high place,and realized there r so different events under each house light,in some of em happiness,in some of em,sadness,in some of em violence,in some of em a new baby,in some of em dead etc...life is really great puzzle

803.       catwoman
8933 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:00 am

Quoting peacetrain:

The date on my flight tickets . . . I thought 23rd was Thursday but WEDNESDAY jumped out at me when I went to check my flight times, and I´ve been running round like a headless chicken for the rest of the day. No sleep for me tonight.


Heheheh. Have a nice trip (although I don´t know where you´re going..)

804.       catwoman
8933 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:05 am

Quoting MrX67:

i watched the city which i live in from a high place,and realized there r so different events under each house light,in some of em happiness,in some of em,sadness,in some of em violence,in some of em a new baby,in some of em dead etc...life is really great puzzle


true... true...

805.       MrX67
2540 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 11:32 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

i watched the city which i live in from a high place,and realized there r so different events under each house light,in some of em happiness,in some of em,sadness,in some of em violence,in some of em a new baby,in some of em dead etc...life is really great puzzle


true... true...

atleast we agreed on somethings,but i hope you don´t teasing?

806.       Cacık
296 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 11:46 am

Name warning in NZ

Thank goodness for sensible judges !

807.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 04:08 pm

End to illegal downloading of music in UK.

Six of the UK´s biggest net providers have agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online.

The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music.

Hard core file-sharers could see their broadband connections slowed, under measures proposed by the UK government.

BT, Virgin, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse have all signed up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

808.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 05:11 pm

A Jihad For Love, sounds like an interesting film, has anyone watched it?


A Jihad For Love

809.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 07:49 pm

This made me laugh lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzQDd49Rd5Y

810.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 08:00 pm

This made me sad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b-HqNHx7uQ

811.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Jul 2008 Thu 10:56 pm

A story in Wednesdays Independent showing two young Roma Gypsy girls lying dead on a beach off Naples in Italy. Holiday makers walk by oblivious, uncaring, that there are two girls that have just drowned in the sea and left on the beach for three hours. The beach remained open and people carried on sunbathing. The photo of these two girls on the beach amidst holiday makers, someone was kind enough to donate their beach towels to cover them, has shocked Italy.

The girls had been trying to sell trinkets to holiday makers with their cousin. The girls went into the sea to cool off, unable to swim, when the current pulled them and smashed them into the rocks. The cousin was able to get out and raise the alarm, but it was too late for the sisters age 13 and 15.

The moral of this story is that Roma Gypsys are hated in Italy, and the photo has shocked the nation, realising what an uncaring, unhuman act this was.

812.       geniuda
1070 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 07:26 pm

Medical Rarity: Black, White twins were born

http://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=276694

813.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 08:27 pm

The worlds first ever sand hotel has been created on the beach at Weymouth in Dorset and is accepting its first guests for £10 a night but guests have been advised there are no toilet facilities available in the hotel It took 1000 tonnes of sand and a team of four sculptors working 14 hours a day for seven days to build the structure on the English beach.
Guests can book to stay in the hotel which includes beds made out of sand until the rain washes it away

814.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 08:34 pm

Creative Coffins



A Guernsey based company Creative Coffins has turned to biodegradable cardboard to provide a green alternative to wooden coffins .
The firm originally a design agency also print specific designs on coffins . As far as we´re concerned its just packaging said Geed Kelly co founder of Creative Coffins . The company began producing coffins in May and its website has been inundated with requests . We get hundreds of enquiries every week said Kelly . Weve had interest from Hollywood to Australia and South Africa to Indonesia . Weve had very positive feedback from funeral directors . Creative Coffins started after a simple request from a friend who was planning his funeral but couldnt find an environmentally friendly coffin . It is now producing caskets that range from £295 off the shelf to £1250 bespoke.


815.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 08:36 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

The worlds first ever sand hotel has been created on the beach at Weymouth in Dorset and is accepting its first guests for £10 a night but guests have been advised there are no toilet facilities available in the hotel It took 1000 tonnes of sand and a team of four sculptors working 14 hours a day for seven days to build the structure on the English beach.
Guests can book to stay in the hotel which includes beds made out of sand until the rain washes it away



I take it there is no room service either. I must admit this takes alot of talent..pretty cool. Thanks for sharing this.

816.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 08:43 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Creative Coffins



A Guernsey based company Creative Coffins has turned to biodegradable cardboard to provide a green alternative to wooden coffins .
The firm originally a design agency also print specific designs on coffins . As far as we´re concerned its just packaging said Geed Kelly co founder of Creative Coffins . The company began producing coffins in May and its website has been inundated with requests . We get hundreds of enquiries every week said Kelly . Weve had interest from Hollywood to Australia and South Africa to Indonesia . Weve had very positive feedback from funeral directors . Creative Coffins started after a simple request from a friend who was planning his funeral but couldnt find an environmentally friendly coffin . It is now producing caskets that range from £295 off the shelf to £1250 bespoke.




You have got to be kidding me. Please when I die do not bury me in a cardboard box, I think I deserve better. Those damn treehuggers.

817.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 09:09 pm

Elisabeth is in between handsom and Alpha.. lol That should be interesting..

818.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 09:26 pm

http://www.backyardwildlifehabitat.info/robinstory.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT0CRJdIcIQ

819.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 09:37 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Elisabeth is in between handsom and Alpha.. lol That should be interesting..



yes, life between thehairy and the omnipotent has been a little rough!

820.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Jul 2008 Fri 11:41 pm

Italian outrage over Roma drowning photos


http://www.romea.cz/english/index.php?id=detail&detail=2007_967

821.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 26 Jul 2008 Sat 12:24 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Italian outrage over Roma drowning photos


http://www.romea.cz/english/index.php?id=detail&detail=2007_967



This is a very strange story indeed. Hard to believe the indifference!

822.       MrX67
2540 posts
 26 Jul 2008 Sat 01:46 am

823.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Jul 2008 Sat 02:35 am

Chinese Handicapped Olympic Swimmer

http://pictzz.blogspot.com/2008/04/chinese-handicap-olympic-swimmer.html

824.       MrX67
2540 posts
 26 Jul 2008 Sat 02:43 am

i was never noticed before greatness of companionship of nice friends&Turkish folk songs^s&Turkish rakithats so enlarging,i advice for all you

825.       lady in red
6947 posts
 26 Jul 2008 Sat 01:47 pm

MrX obviously had FAR TOO MUCH to drink last night! lol
´Şerefe´ posted all over the site.

I think we might not see him signed in to TC at all today!

826.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Jul 2008 Sun 08:06 pm

Turkish Daily News on OBAMA´s visit to Berlin

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=110908

827.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Jul 2008 Sun 11:37 pm

Division of Epidemiology, American Health Foundation, New York, NY 10017.

A hospital-based, case-control study of 235 male patients with laryngeal cancer and 205 male control patients was conducted to determine the effects of exposure to diesel engine exhaust and diesel fumes and the risk of laryngeal cancer. All patients were interviewed directly in the hospital with a standardized questionnaire that gathered information on smoking habits, alcohol consumption, employment history, and occupational exposures. Occupations that involve substantial exposure to diesel engine exhaust include mainly truck drivers, as well as mine workers, firefighters, and railroad workers. The odds ratio for laryngeal cancer associated with these occupations was 0.96 (95% confidence interval, 0.5 to 1.8). The odds ratio for self-reported exposure to diesel exhaust was 1.47 (95% confidence interval, 0.5 to 4.1). An elevated risk was found for self-reported exposure to diesel fumes (odds ratio, 6.4; 95% confidence interval, 1.8 to 22.6). No association was observed between jobs that entail exposure to diesel fumes, such as automobile mechanics, and the risk of laryngeal cancer. These results show that diesel engine exhaust is unrelated to laryngeal cancer risk. The different findings for self-reported diesel fumes and occupations that involve exposure to diesel fumes could reflect a recall bias.

PMID: 7870446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

828.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 12:09 am

Married to Another Man
Israel´s Dilemma in Palestine
Two rabbis, visiting Palestine in 1897,observed that the land was like a bride,"beautiful,but married to another man". By which they meant that, if a place was to be found for Israel in Palestine, where would the people of Palestine go? This is a dilemma that Israel has never been able to resolve.

No conflict today is more dangerous than that between Israel and the Palestinians. The implications it has for regional and global security cannot be overstated. The peace process as we know it is dead and no solution is in sight. Nor, as this book argues, will that change until everyone involved in finding a solution accepts the real causes of conflict, and its consequences on the ground.

Leading writer Ghada Karmi explains in fascinating detail the difficulties Israel´s existence created for the Arab world and why the search for a solution has been so elusive. Ultimately,she argues that the conflict will end only once the needs of both Arabs and Israelis are accommodated equally. Her startling conclusions overturn conventional thinking---but they are hard to refute.

Ghada Karmi is one of the world´s most renowned commentators on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and a well-known figure on British radio and TV. Born in Jerusalem, she was forced to leave as a child in 1948 and grew up in Britain where she became a physician, academic and writer. Currently, Karmi is a research fellow and lecturer at the Institute of Arab and Islamic Studies, University of Exeter. She is the author of several books, including her most recent, widely acclaimed memoir, In Search of Fatima.
by Palest. author Ghada Karmi
*********************************************************

The problem in the Middle East is not Iraq as they want you to believe - it is Israel, and Israels war against the Palestinian people. It is the tragedy of Palestine, still unresolved, that is the real issue...

They say they are looking for weapons of mass destruction. To them we say look in Israel!

Bush and Blair say they are punishing Iraq for breaching United Nations resolutions, to them we say what about Israel?

Bush and Blair say Iraq has possible links with international terrorism. To them we say go to Israel to see actual state terrorism.

Bush has a list of rogue states that he wants to tackle, but he´s missed out the one rogue state which occupies other peoples land and has weapons of mass destruction - Israel!





829.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 02:20 pm

Males are the fragile sex


When all the evidence is taken into account, males can be considered the fragile sex, a leading psychiatrist has said.

According to British psychiatrist, Dr Sebastian Kraemer, even before they are born, males are more fragile. While in the womb, a male foetus is more vulnerable to external stress and obstetric complications, than a female foetus.

At birth, girls are, from a development standpoint, more mature than boys. Dr Kraemer points out that the more development problems there are in a child, the more sensitive the care they require. Yet, he adds, difficult babies often receive less good care, precisely because they are more problematic to look after.

Boys are also more vulnerable to maternal postnatal depression, which can trigger conditions such as hyperactivity in them.

...rest of the article...

830.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 03:24 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Males are the fragile sex


When all the evidence is taken into account, males can be considered the fragile sex, a leading psychiatrist has said.


OMG, I have always suspected this!!!

831.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 08:28 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Males are the fragile sex


When all the evidence is taken into account, males can be considered the fragile sex, a leading psychiatrist has said.


OMG, I have always suspected this!!!



Catwoman...some damn psychologist got paid a lot of money to do research on something we already knew! We need to apply for a federal grant to study why thehandsom can´t cook! Nobody knows the answer to that!

832.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Jul 2008 Mon 11:52 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Catwoman...some damn psychologist got paid a lot of money to do research on something we already knew! We need to apply for a federal grant to study why thehandsom can´t cook! Nobody knows the answer to that!


I know! But these days you have to give links for everything, your own supreme genius doesn´t count...

Regarding handsom, I suspect that he can cook very well, he just pretends he can´t so that his wife does all the work - very old trick that works for a lot of men. But have you noticed that when men are PAYED for cooking, they suddenly don´t have all these insurmountable issues with doing it? I haven´t seen even one female cook in Turkish restaurants.

833.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 12:15 am

Quoting catwoman:

I haven´t seen even one female cook in Turkish restaurants.



I think we just found a federally funded researcy project...no???

834.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 12:49 am

Gas prices have gone down..............for the moment.

835.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 03:34 am

Quoting teaschip:

Gas prices have gone down..............for the moment.



for A moment! Don´t blink, teas, you may miss out on the HUGE discounted prices!!

836.       libralady
5152 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 03:24 pm

A bee - hit me in the eye when I was our running at lunchtime...............

837.       lady in red
6947 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 03:38 pm

Quoting libralady:

A bee - hit me in the eye when I was our running at lunchtime...............



See.. now that wouldn´t have happened if you hadn´t had laser surgery!

838.       libralady
5152 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 03:54 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting libralady:

A bee - hit me in the eye when I was our running at lunchtime...............



See.. now that wouldn´t have happened if you hadn´t had laser surgery!



But I used to take my glasses off when I ran, now I can see where I am going lol

839.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Jul 2008 Tue 11:17 pm

A magnitude 5.8 earthquake has rattled Los Angeles, California.

840.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 12:22 am

Quoting catwoman:

A magnitude 5.8 earthquake has rattled Los Angeles, California.


yeahhhhh!! I felt it

I am not in LA, but I am only a couple of hours away.When that happened,I was quietly doing some work then out of the sudden the ground started moving... I think here in Southern California we are used to earthquakes

841.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 03:47 pm

the book: Sailing from Byzantium

by Colin Wells
A gripping intellectual adventure story, Sailing from Byzantium sweeps you from the deserts of Arabia to the dark forests of northern Russia, from the colorful towns of Renaissance Italy to the final moments of a millennial city under siege....

Byzantium: the successor of Greece and Rome, this magnificent empire bridged the ancient and modern worlds for more than a thousand years. Without Byzantium, the works of Homer and Herodotus, Plato and Aristotle, Sophocles and Aeschylus, would never have survived. Yet very few of us have any idea of the enormous debt we owe them.

The story of Byzantium is a real-life adventure of electrifying ideas, high drama, colorful characters, and inspiring feats of daring. In Sailing from Byzantium, Colin Wells tells of the missionaries, mystics, philosophers, and artists who against great odds and often at peril of their own lives spread Greek ideas to the Italians, the Arabs, and the Slavs.

Their heroic efforts inspired the Renaissance, the golden age of Islamic learning, and Russian Orthodox Christianity, which came complete with a new alphabet, architecture, and one of the world´s greatest artistic traditions.

The story´s central reference point is an arcane squabble called the Hesychast controversy that pitted humanist scholars led by the brilliant, acerbic intellectual Barlaam against the powerful monks of Mount Athos led by the stern Gregory Palamas, who denounced "pagan" rationalism in favor of Christian mysticism.

Within a few decades, the light of Byzantium would be extinguished forever by the invading Turks, but not before the humanists found a safe haven for Greekliterature. The controversy of rationalism versus faith would continue to be argued by some of history´s greatest minds.



842.       lady in red
6947 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 07:17 pm

This is rather cute but amazing at the same time:

Robot love story

843.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 07:27 pm

Leonardo DiCaprio interview with his German grandmother


http://www.germanhollywood.com/dicaprio_2.html

844.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 10:44 pm

How many mods we have here now.

845.       CANLI
5084 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 10:57 pm

Turkish Language
Moderators: mltm, erdinc, Deli_kizin, Müjde, uzeyir, caliptrix)
Turkey
(Moderators: Deli_kizin, lady in red)
Turkish culture and literature
(Moderators: libralady, Deli_kizin)
Classifieds
(Moderators: erdinc, Müjde)
Other
(Moderators: Deli_kizin, KeithL, lady in red, mltm, CANLI)

İf this can help

846.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 31 Jul 2008 Thu 01:15 am

Ashes and Snow


http://www.ashesandsnow.org/en/flash-popup.php#exhibition|critical-acclaim

847.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 01:41 am

The worlds most expensive box of chocolate!
The ultimate sweet experience in the guise of the worlds most expensive box of chocolates has gone on sale at Harrods for £5,000 . Made by the renowned Lebanese chocolatier Patchi , every part of the box has been made using the finest materials . The box is wrapped with genuine leather and refined hand made silk design originating from India and China . Inside the box the forty nine hand wrapped chocolates are , separated by gold and platinum linings. Every piece of chocolate is produced with the finest ingredients , and decorated with , a gold and Crystal flower and a handmade silk rose .

848.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 01:47 am

Quoting thehandsom:

The worlds most expensive box of chocolate!



Hmmm....I wonder exactly how the chocolate itself is? Is it fair trade chocolate?

Fair Trade Chocolate

"How could chocolate possibly be more delicious than it already is??

For now, chocolate is a bitter sweet…
284,000 children toil in abusive labor conditions in West Africa’s cocoa fields
Cocoa companies pay prices so low that many cocoa farmers cannot meet their families’ basic needs"

849.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 05:07 pm

Boyfriend of woman stuck to toilet gets 6 months probation

I bet she was a lazy woman who did not want to leave the toilet..

A man whose girlfriend sat on a toilet so long that the seat stuck to her body has been sentenced to six months on probation.

Babcock’s extremely reclusive behaviour first made headlines in February 2008 when McFarren called the local sheriff in Ness County, Kansas explaining that Babcock, his live-in girlfriend, had not left their bathroom for two years.

When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.





http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=9079046

850.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 05:18 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Boyfriend of woman stuck to toilet gets 6 months probation

I bet she was a lazy woman who did not want to leave the toilet..



851.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 05:57 pm

Quoting thehandsom:



When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.[/i]



That´s another argument for the A La Turka types of toilets!

852.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 06:19 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:



When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.[/i]



That´s another argument for the A La Turka types of toilets!



If I need to sit that long on a toilet I rather have a Japanese one, like in the picture. There are even more luxury ones with drying facilities, music and several bidet functions.

Japanese toilet control panel

853.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 07:26 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting thehandsom:



When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.[/i]



That´s another argument for the A La Turka types of toilets!



If I need to sit that long on a toilet I rather have a Japanese one, like in the picture. There are even more luxury ones with drying facilities, music and several bidet functions.

Japanese toilet control panel



Wow, chalk it up to the Japanese for high technology. I wonder what happens if a circuit goes out.

854.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 07:29 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Wow, chalk it up to the Japanese for high technology. I wonder what happens if a circuit goes out.



Nothing, it´s an ordinary toilet at that time I experienced. No strange things will happen to you...

855.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 07:35 pm

Giant chunks break off Canadian ice shelf
Cracks had been earlier found on Ward Hunt; ´more could go´ this summer
Giant sheets of ice totaling almost eight square miles broke off an ice shelf in the Canadian Arctic last week and more could follow later this year, scientists said on Tuesday.

In a development consistent with climate change theories, the enormous icy plain broke free sometime last week and began slowly drifting into the Arctic Ocean. The piece had been a part of the shelf for 3,000 years.

Temperatures in large parts of the Arctic have risen far faster than the global average in recent decades.

The ice broke away from the shelf on Ward Hunt Island, a small island just off giant Ellesmere Island in one of the northernmost parts of Canada.

It was the largest fracture of its kind since the nearby Ayles Ice Shelf — which measured 25 square miles — broke away in 2005.

Scientists had earlier identified deep cracks in the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf, which measures around 155 square miles. The shelf is one of five along Ellesmere Island in the northern Arctic.

"Because the breakoff occurred between two large parallel cracks they´re thinking more could go this summer before the freeze sets in," said Trudy Wohlleben of the Canadian Ice Service. "More could be a piece as large as the Ayles Ice Shelf."

Ellesmere Island was once home to a single enormous ice shelf totaling around 3,500 square miles. All that is left of that shelf today are five much smaller shelves that together cover just under 400 square miles.

Melting ice shelves don´t raise sea levels because they are already in the water, but their demise can speed up retreating glaciers, which do raise sea levels.

Sea ice, glaciers also shrinking
"The breakoff is consistent with other changes we´ve seen in the area, such as the reduction in the amount of sea ice, the retreat of the glaciers and the breakup of other ice shelves," Wohlleben said.

MSNBC


856.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 01:04 pm

The single hair that could FINALLY prove the Yeti really exists!!

The tests showed the thick, wiry hairs do not belong to any of the most common wild animals known to live in the area.

Instead, they bear a ´startling resemblance´ to some collected half a century ago by Everest conqueror Sir Edmund Hillary.

Researcher Ian Redmond said: ´The hairs are the most positive evidence yet that a yeti might possibly exist. It might be that the region this animal is inhabiting is remote enough for it to remain undiscovered so far. We are very excited.´

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1039150/The-single-hair-FINALLY-prove-Yeti-really-exists.html

..
´The hairs are complete with the cuticle, and between 3.3cm (1.3in) and 4.4cm (1.7in) long and thick and wiry and curved,´ he said.
OMG..

857.       Trudy
7887 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 01:42 pm

What a sudden interest in this hairy creature, thehandsom? Is that coincidence....? lol

858.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 01:52 pm

Quoting Trudy:

What a sudden interest in this hairy creature, thehandsom? Is that coincidence....? lol


well..
it says:
The hairs are complete with the cuticle, and between 3.3cm (1.3in) and 4.4cm (1.7in) long and thick and wiry and curved,´
And they fit the description of ermm.. (I am too shy to mention it)..
I have been in Pakistan years ago..and I was just thinking what if ermm.., you know, natural forces like wind makes the things travel around and they discoverd the hair in India..
I dunno..We have to wait and see the DNA analysis I guess..

859.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 03:54 pm

Another tragedy
Afghan survivors tell of wedding bombing


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7504574.stm

860.       Trudy
7887 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 04:40 pm

Today in Amsterdam - still Gay Capital of Europe though Istanbul has the name wanting to beat the city - is the Canal Parade, a Gay festival like carnival on boats in the Amsterdam Canals. At the video you can see a little of it. BTW the headscarfed woman was not - as some might think - saying anything bad, just that she found some of the openly dancing gay men overreacting just like she finds the same from straight people acting the same.

Bad news is that at least 4 gay visitors were molested just before the parade started.

Gay Canal Parade

861.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 07:20 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

The single hair that could FINALLY prove the Yeti really exists!!


Is that a self-portrait?

862.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 11:05 am

In Japan they celebrate this weekend the Kanamara Matsuri. This festival - called the festival of the iron phallus - is THE occassion to pray for more children and protection against STD´s. The festivities in Kawasaki are attented with many phallus symbols. Nowadays the festival is held to raise money for HIV investigation.

According to a legend a young girl was possessed by a demon who castrated two young men during their wedding night. A black smith made a phallus of iron to crush the demons teeth. That is where the honoring of the symbol originate from.

A video - with some quite revealing shots! - can be seen
here.

(I hope it´s too revealing for TLC?) lol

863.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 02:01 pm

We are together, the story of the Agape Orphanage in South Africa. The highly aclaimed documentary was screened last night on UK TV Channel 4 and it was a very moving emotional story.

It followed, in particular, one you girl age 11 who was in the orphanage with her younger siblings. She had three older sibling who lived in the parental home. Both parent had died of AIDS and her older brother also died of AIDS whilst the documentary was being filmed. This was heatbreaking to watch, as he was carried down the hill on the back of his older sister, bringing him home from a short spell in hospital, as they could do no more for him. I guessed he would be about 20.

This incredibly moving film, showed the orphanage had burned down, and the children then had to live in the makeshift camp.

The aim of the film was for the children to come to England to sing in their choir, but this did not take place, instead they went to New York and sang with Alishia Keys and Paul Simon. They made a CD and made enough money to rebuild their orphanage.

864.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 02:45 pm

The Triumph of the Anti-Bush
A crowd of 200,000 in Berlin and an enthusiastic welcome in Jerusalem and Paris: Barack Obama´s whirlwind tour of the Middle East and Europe has fascinated the crowds and impressed politicians. Will it be enough to overcome doubts about his foreign policy expertise?

On the one hand, there were the American media pros working for the US presidential candidate, constantly searching for the best shots to use back home. They left nothing to chance, right down to the tiniest carefully choreographed details. "Message control" was the buzzword as they implemented "the plan" -- Barack Obama for president. John, does camera three have the Brandenburg Gate with him in the foreground? Jack, how can we best get the crowd into the picture with him, should he wave to the left or to the right? Linda, why do so few people in the front rows have Obama balloons?

On the other hand, there was the man himself. From the very second he walked onto the stage with an athletic bounce in his step, waved, smiled, it was obvious here was a man who so obviously knows where he stands and is so confident in his message. This doesn´t look like just another political product that needs to be sold -- at most just someone who needs to be coached in the details. Here comes a natural talent with the charisma of John F. Kennedy, the kind of man who only comes along once in a generation. And when he stood up to speak, it immediately became clear why it may be one thing when wannabe crowd-pleasers like Hubertus Heil, secretary general of Germany´s center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD), shout "Yes, we can" -- but it is another story altogether when Obama does it himself.

He gave an almost poetic speech, a tour de force through global politics, but without many specifics, in which he invoked what has fallen by the wayside during the Bush years without even referring to George W.: the partnership with Europe, cooperation on climate protection, phasing out nuclear weapons. On the topic of Afghanistan, he called on the Germans to play a more active role. He didn´t utter a single negative word abroad about his own government, about the lies that were used to justify the Iraq war, about the ongoing revelations of torture by the CIA, or the fact that 74 percent of Americans feel that their country is on the wrong path. On this very special Thursday evening at Berlin´s Victory Column, a crowd of 200,000 was fascinated by Obama, cheering this man who presents himself as a citizen of the world, and who they hope will become the next US president.

This was all quite a remarkable contrast to the last visit by an important guest from the US. It was just under seven weeks ago that George W. Bush -- the man who is still US president for the time being -- was in Germany. A quiet "couples evening" took place at the idyllic Meseberg Palace, 70 kilometers (44 miles) from Berlin, as the Merkels dined with the Bushs, undisturbed by the public interest. And so it was that the commander-in-chief of the world´s greatest superpower received the worst possible kind of political affront: He failed to attract anyone´s attention -- not even his opponents seemed to care anymore. Not a single demonstration. The small group of farmers who gathered on a field near a neighboring village were only interested in getting better prices for dairy products.

By contrast, the Obama trip covered eight countries in seven days, flying tens of thousands of miles in the Boeing 757 leased by the election campaign team (emblazoned on the side: "Change we can believe in, Barackobama.com"); from Washington to the deserts of Afghanistan to Downing Street in London, with stops in Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, Germany and France; over 20 planned political meetings, including tête-à-têtes with four prime ministers, three presidents and a monarch; shooting hoops with US troops in Kuwait, drinking tea with a Sunni elder at his Iraqi clan house, dinner with Jordan´s King Abdullah II in Amman, and a press conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy at the Elysée Palace.

Obama, 46, arranged a monster program of events and saw it through with iron discipline and a constant smile, although the jetlag, as he himself admitted, was so severe that he could "fall asleep on his feet." He knew that this whirlwind tour could be the key to his bid to become the next president of the US.

Playing the Statesman-in-Waiting

Up until last week, opponent John McCain was barely trailing him in the opinion polls -- by 2 to 4 percent, with over 10 percent undecided. In almost every political arena, from the economy to health insurance, the Democrat leads the Republican by a comfortable margin. McCain, 71, can only score more points with his foreign policy experience. When Americans are asked which of the presumptive candidates for the White House they would most trust as the commander-in-chief in a time of crisis -- who, for example, would be in a better position to protect them from terrorist attacks -- the Vietnam War veteran comes up with a clear advantage. This motivated Obama to take his election campaign to the world stage. Now that he had recognized his own Achilles´ heel, he planned to make it unassailable. And on Monday, it looked as if it had paid off -- at least temporarily. The first post-trip Gallup poll showed Obama nine points ahead of McCain after the Democratic candidate´s mini world tour.

Obama at the Western Wall in Jerusalem.
Already during the first half of his trip, as he toured the Middle East, Obama took a very skilled and disciplined approach. He didn´t lecture, he listened. And when he commented, he carefully chose each word and weighed each phrase. Obama is a man who occasionally allows a brilliant phrase to overshadow the message itself and -- no stranger to vanity -- sometimes allows himself to get carried away by the engaging power of language. But this gifted orator managed to hold back. He played the statesman-in-waiting, not the election campaigner. And we only occasionally caught a glimpse of how difficult this was for him.

For instance, during a press conference in the Jordanian capital Amman, with the Temple of Hercules in the background, he bit on his lip as reporters fired one provocative question after another. No, not Iraq, but Afghanistan is the most important front in the war on terror, he insisted, adding that the two to three US combat brigades required there could only come from Iraq. He pointed out that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supports his 16-month withdrawal plan from the country. The nuances of his ideas on Iraq are important to him. He wants to make distinctions as a counterpoint to Bush, who once famously said: "I don´t do nuance."

Above all during his trip to Israel and the Palestinian Territories -- the world region with the largest political minefields -- Obama did not, as some expected, come across as a messianic savior. Before the trip, American comedian Jon Stewart joked that the presumptive Democratic candidate would certainly visit Bethlehem because "he has to see his place of birth." But Obama avoided making any grand gestures and made absolutely no attempt at walking on water. Instead, he seemed intent on becoming the new master of the low-key approach.

During his 34-hour stay in Israel, Obama encountered a country that is once again struggling to find its bearings, a nation that is deeply divided and plagued by scandal. The attorney general is soon expected to charge former Israeli President Moshe Katsav on two counts of rape; Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is being investigated on corruption allegations and will likely have to leave office in September; Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon continue to threaten Israel with attacks.

There is only one issue that practically all Israelis can agree on: Iran, with its fanatical President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, must not be allowed to become a nuclear power. There is a slender majority that would still rather pursue tougher sanctions than air raids. But Israeli intelligence sources have been pushing for a military strike against Iran´s nuclear facilities -- the risky plan with unforeseeable consequences is gaining support among politicians. And as SPIEGEL learned in Jerusalem, Obama received a new and particularly alarming Mossad dossier on Iran from Olmert.

Israel is one of the few countries worldwide -- at least prior to the visit -- where a majority of the population would prefer to see McCain elected president. Experienced, graying old warhorses with military experience like Ariel Sharon enjoy more support there than young charismatic politicians. And American Jewish voters, whose support promises to be so crucial in swing states like Florida and Ohio on Nov. 4, are watching carefully. Ever since Obama said that he would seek unconditional talks with Iran, Jews in the US have been eyeing him with suspicion.

Not a Good Week for McCain


In the run-up to his visit to Israel, the Democratic candidate tried to compensate for his position on Iran -- and ended up making his worst foreign policy blunder: Speaking to the pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC in Washington in early June, he went so far as to assert that Jerusalem would "remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided." Not even the extremely pro-Israel Bush administration had gone that far. The Palestinians, who -- in agreement with the European Union and the United Nations -- claim East Jerusalem as the capital of their future state, were furious; the extremists in Hamas called Obama a "Zionist poodle."


Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is struggling to counter Obamania.
The senator from Illinois bowed and was deeply moved at the Holocaust memorial, he remained respectfully silent at the Wailing Wall, and shook his head in Sderot -- an Israeli border town that has been plagued by rocket attacks from the nearby Gaza Strip -- when he was handed the remains of a Katyusha rocket. It was little more than the standard political visit, but Obama has the rare ability to give everyone the impression that there is no one more important to him.

"This will be the next president of the United States," wrote the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, which until then had been critical of Obama. And their colleagues at Haaretz found that, compared to the Obama tour, the visit by British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who had an opportunity last week to speak before the Knesset, was as insignificant "as a warm-up act for the Beatles." A survey conducted by Israel Radio following the visit revealed that 4 percent more Israelis favor the Democratic senator over McCain.

Next Obama endeavored -- tightrope act number two -- to reduce the reservations that Palestinians have about him. He had already revised his statement about Jerusalem. In an interview on CNN he said: "Obviously, it´s going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations." He traveled to see the leaders of the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah. He promised moderate Palestinians that under his leadership the US would push the Israelis to stop building new settlements and actively pursue the peace process. He may have only spent just under two hours in the West Bank, but even Palestinian skeptics were highly appreciative of the visit. When McCain visited Israel four months ago, he saw no reason to visit Ramallah.

The more moderate, nonpartisan and presidential the Democratic senator acted on this trip, the more it underscored the grating tones of his opponent: "Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign," a visibly more nervous McCain commented. Even the weather seemed to turn against the Republican. He set out to prove his expertise on energy issues by flying out to an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico. But the modest photo op was spoiled by a hurricane.

No, it wasn´t a good week for the McCainiacs. The head strategists of the Republican election campaign were up in arms over the "Obama orgy" that they believe America´s media had orchestrated while other supporters -- depending on their disposition -- struggle with bouts of Obamanic depression. The leading networks CBS, NBC and ABC did indeed send their anchormen to the Middle East, and it took plenty of chutzpah to bill the election campaign trip as a simple congressional delegation with Chuck Hagel (Rep.) and Jack Reed (Dem.) tagging along as decoration.

However, when CNN decided out of a sense of fairness to give McCain exactly the same prime airtime last Wednesday, it turned out to be rather counterproductive for the Republican. He was seen standing on some hilltop in Maine, his hair disheveled by the wind, and out of the blue he said "I will get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice, I promise you."

With an expressionless look on his face, he examined heads of cabbage at a supermarket in Pennsylvania and told housewives how concerned he is about the high prices of food and gasoline. Afterwards, viewers were treated to McCain with George Bush Senior playing a round of golf. The two men looked like a couple of pensioners -- active, but not necessarily so dynamic that people would be inclined to entrust them with the most important office in the world: more like the generation 70 and over.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,druck-568551,00.html

865.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 03:27 pm

Quoting Trudy:

In Japan they celebrate this weekend the Kanamara Matsuri. This festival - called the festival of the iron phallus - is THE occassion to pray for more children and protection against STD´s. The festivities in Kawasaki are attented with many phallus symbols. Nowadays the festival is held to raise money for HIV investigation.

According to a legend a young girl was possessed by a demon who castrated two young men during their wedding night. A black smith made a phallus of iron to crush the demons teeth. That is where the honoring of the symbol originate from.

A video - with some quite revealing shots! - can be seen
here.

(I hope it´s too revealing for TLC?) lol


I am sorry but this is quite lewd and raunchy.
Objectification of phallus!!
I think you should delete this post.

866.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 04:22 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


I am sorry but this is quite lewd and raunchy.
Objectification of phallus!!
I think you should delete this post.



Lewd? Raunchy? Sorry, my online dictionary doesn´t know these words. I assume they are compliments?

867.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 11:47 pm

The Yazidi are adherents of the smallest of the three branches of Yazdânism, a Middle Eastern religion with ancient Indo-European roots. Yazidis are primarily Kurdish speaking, and most live in the Mosul region of northern Iraq. There are traditional communities in Transcaucasia, Turkey, and Syria, but these have declined since the 1990s, their members emigrating to Europe, especially to Germany.
The term Dasni or Dasny is misunderstood. A large Yezidi-clan/tribe is called Dasni. There are many Yazidis who belong to the tribe, and the two terms are sometimes seen as interchangeable. The Yazidis don´t use it for self-designation.
Yazidis make up an important Iraqi minority community. Estimates of the size of the Iraqi communities vary significantly, between 70,000 and 500,000. The Georgian community has declined significantly (decreasing from 30,000 during the 1990s to an estimated 14,000 in 2008), while communities in Armenia have been more stable (some 40,000 according to 2001 census). In Russia, the Yazidi population totals 31,273 (2002 census). In Syria, there are two main groupings, in the Jazira and the Kurd Daege, accounting for about 15,000 people. In Turkey, there are now just a very small remnant in some villages south-east of Diyarbakir, remnants of a community of some 80,000 in 1970 (declined to 23,000 in 1985 and to 377 people in 2007[citation needed]).
The Yazidi number around 200,000 to 300,000 individuals in total, but estimates vary on their population size, partially due to the Yazidi tradition of secrecy when asked about one´s religious beliefs. Lower estimates are around 100,000, and high estimates around 700,000. Expatriate Yazidi are concentrated in Germany, numbering between 20,000 and 40,000, mainly in Niedersachsen and Nordrhein-Westfalen, most of them from Turkey. A much smaller diaspora community is found in the Netherlands. Very small groups are also found in Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, France, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, the US, Canada and Australia, probably totalling to below 5,000 people.
Yazidi men in Mardin, late 19th century
The origins of Yazidism are ultimately shrouded in Middle Eastern prehistory. Although the Yazidis speak Kurdish, their religion shows strong influence from archaic Levantine religion, Islam and Christianity. Their principal holy site is in Lalish, northeast of Mosul. The Yazidis´ own name for themselves is Êzidî or Êzîdî or, in some areas, Dasinî (the latter, strictly speaking, is a tribal name). Some scholars have derived the name Yazidi from Old Iranic yazata (divine being), while others say it is a derivation from Umayyad Caliph Yazid I (Yazid bin Muawiyah), revered by the Yazidis as an incarnation of the divine figure Sultan Ezi (this is no longer widely accepted). Yazidis, themselves, believe that their name is derived from the word Yezdan or Êzid meaning God; however in ancient vernaculars of Kurdistan such as Urartian the term izid-u means "command" or "admonish". The Yazidis´ cultural practices are observably Kurdish, and almost all speak Kurmanjî (Northern Kurdish), with the exception of the villages of Bashiqa and Bahazane in Northern Iraq, where Arabic is spoken. Kurmanjî is the language of almost all the orally transmitted religious traditions of the Yazidis. Thus, religious origins are somewhat complex.
The religion of the Yazidis is a highly syncretistic one: Sufi influence and imagery can be seen in their religious vocabulary, especially in the terminology of their esoteric literature, but much of the mythology is non-Islamic. Their cosmogonies apparently have many points in common with those of ancient Persian religions. Early writers attempted to describe Yazidi origins, broadly speaking, in terms of Islam, or Persian, or sometimes even pagan religions; however, publications since the 1990s have shown such an approach to be overly simplistic.
The origin of the Yazidi religion is now usually seen by scholars as a complex process of syncretism, whereby the belief system and practices of a local faith had a profound influence on the religiosity of adherents of the Adawiyya Sufi order living in the Kurdish mountains, and caused it to deviate from Islamic norms relatively soon after the death of its founder, Sheikh Adî ibn Mustafa who is said to be of Umayyad descent. He settled in the valley of Laliş (some thirty-six miles north-east of Mosul) in the early 12th century CE. Sheikh Adî himself, a figure of undoubted orthodoxy, enjoyed widespread influence. He died in 1162, and his tomb at Lalish is a focal point of Yazidi pilgrimage. During the fourteenth century, important Kurdish tribes whose sphere of influence stretched well into what is now Turkey (including, for a period, the rulers of the principality of Jazira) are cited in historical sources as Yazidi.
The word Taus (in Melek Taus) is derived from the Indo-European root Diyus and is a cognate of Indian Diyuvuh and Greek Zeus. Ancient Indo-Iranians used to worship the souls of their fathers and grandfathers and glorified the souls of their dead. They also believed in a supreme God Diyvuh Pitar (The Father God) and several Devas who represented natural powers. After the arrival of Zoroaster, he kept Ahoramazda (Supreme God) and abolished the other gods such as Devas. Over time, Zoroastrians began to associate Devas with Satan and prohibited painting, statues, sacrifice of animals, alcohol and fasting. Zoroaster called those who did not follow his teachings demon worshipers. Despite the Zoroastrians´ efforts, large parts of the population kept their old beliefs in worshiping natural phenomena. According to scholar Taufiq Wahby and others, the word Dasni or Dasny, the ethnic self-designation of Yazidis, is a form of the old word Deva Ysne used by Zoroaster to identify those who did not follow his religion.
Melek Taus, the peacock angel
In the Yazidi belief system, the world was created by a god, and the world is now in the care of a Heptad of seven Holy Beings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries). Preeminent among these is Melek Taus (Tawûsê Melek in Kurdish), the Peacock Angel. According to the Encyclopedia of the Orient, "The reason for the Yazidis reputation of being devil worshipers, is connected to the other name of Melek Taus, Shaytan, the same name the Koran has for Satan". Furthermore, the Yazidi story regarding Malek Taus´ rise to favor with God is almost identical to the story of the Islamic angel Iblis, except that Yazidis revere Malek Taus for refusing to submit to Adam, while Muslims believe that Iblis´ refusal to submit caused him to fall out of Grace with God, and to later become Satan himself.[9] However, according to the Kurdish linguist Jamal Nebez, the word Taus is most probably derived from the Greek and is related to the words Zeus and Theos, alluding to the meaning of God. Accordingly, Malek Taus is God´s Angel, and this is how Yazidis themselves see Melek Taus or Taus-e-Malak.
Yazidis believe that Melek Taus is not a source of evil or wickedness. They consider him to be the leader of the archangels, not a fallen angel, and therefore comparable to the Christians´ Lucifer, who is likewise considered the leader of the "seven who stand before the Lord" and of all other good angels. Also, they hold that the source of evil is in the heart and spirit of humans themselves, not in Melek Taus. The active forces in their religion are Melek Taus and Sheik Adî. The Kitêba Cilwe (Book of Illumination) which claims to be the words of Melek Taus, and which presumably represents Yazidi belief, states that he allocates responsibilities, blessings and misfortunes as he sees fit and that it is not for the race of Adam to question him. Sheikh Adî believed that the spirit of Melek Taus is the same as his own, perhaps as a reincarnation. He is believed to have said: "I was present when Adam was living in Paradise, and also when Nemrud threw Abraham in fire. I was present when God said to me: ´You are the ruler and Lord on the Earth´. God, the compassionate, gave me seven earths and throne of the heaven."
Yazidi accounts of creation differ from that of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. They believe that God first created Melek Taus from his own illumination (Ronahî in Kurdish) and the other six archangels were created later. God ordered Melek Taus not to bow to other beings. Then God created the other archangels and ordered them to bring him dust (Ax) from the Earth (Erd) and build the body of Adam. Then God gave life to Adam from his own breath and instructed all archangels to bow to Adam. The archangels obeyed except for Melek Taus. In answer to God, Malek Taus replied, "How can I submit to another being! I am from your illumination while Adam is made of dust." Then God praised him and made him the leader of all angels and his deputy on the Earth. (This likely furthers what some see as a connection to the Islamic Shaytan, as according to legend he too refused to bow to Adam at God´s command, though in this case it is seen as being a sign of Shaytan´s sinful pride.) Hence the Yazidis believe that Melek Taus is the representative of God on the face of the Earth, and comes down to the Earth on the first Wednesday of Nisan (March/April). Yazidis hold that God created Malek Taus on this day, and celebrate it as New Year´s day. Yazidis argue that the order to bow to Adam was only a test for Melek Taus, since if God commands anything then it must happen. (Bibe, dibe). In other words, God could have made him submit to Adam, but gave Taus the choice as a test. They believe that their respect and praise for Melek Taus is a way to acknowledge his majestic and sublime nature. This idea is called "Knowledge of the Sublime" (Zanista Ciwaniyê). Sheikh Adî has observed the story of Melek Taus and believed in him.
One of the key creation beliefs of Yazidism is that all Yazidis are descendants of Adam rather than Eve. Yazidis believe that good and evil both exist in the mind and spirit of human beings. It depends on the humans, themselves, as to which they choose. In this process, their devotion to Melek Taus is essential, since it was he who was given the same choice between good and evil by God, and chose the good.
Yazidis, who have much in common with the followers of Ahl-e Haqq (in western Iran), state that the world created by God was at first a pearl. It remained in this very small and enclosed state for some time (often a magic number such as forty or forty thousand years) before being remade in its current state. During this period the Heptad were called into existence, God made a covenant with them and entrusted the world to them. Besides Melek Taus, members of the Heptad (the Seven), who were called into existence by God at the beginning of all things, include Sheikh Adî, his companion Shaikh Hasan, and a group known as the four Mysteries, Shamsadin, Fakhradin, Sajadin and Naserdin. The Yazidi holy books are the Kitêba Cilwe (Book of Revelation) and the Mishefa Reş (Black Book).
Two key and interrelated features of Yazidism are: a) a preoccupation with religious purity and b) a belief in metempsychosis. The first of these is expressed in the system of caste, the food laws, the traditional preferences for living in Yazidi communities, and the variety of taboos governing many aspects of life. The second is crucial; Yazidis traditionally believe that the Seven Holy Beings are periodically reincarnated in human form, called a koasasa.
A belief in the reincarnation of lesser Yazidi souls also exists. Like the Ahl-e Haqq, the Yazidis use the metaphor of a change of garment to describe the process, which they call kiras guhorîn in Kurdish (changing the garment). Alongside this, Yazidi mythology also includes descriptions of heaven and hell, with hell extinguished, and other traditions incorporating these ideas into a belief system that includes reincarnation.

868.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 04 Aug 2008 Mon 03:20 pm

Ouh - my first spam from a Canadian lol
I suppose it makes a nice change from the Turkish ones..

869.       mltm
3690 posts
 04 Aug 2008 Mon 03:24 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Ouh - my first spam from a Canadian lol
I suppose it makes a nice change from the Turkish ones..




A canadian living in İstanbul. Hehe


He has already spammed me 3 times.
I think he´s in his some last days on this site.

870.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 04 Aug 2008 Mon 03:25 pm

OHMYGOD! And now an English spammer?
Has duduism spread from Turkey now? lol

871.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 Aug 2008 Tue 03:23 pm

Emirates take delivery of Airbus A380

872.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 Aug 2008 Wed 02:07 am

´I Am Not Afraid of Death´

INTERVIEW WITH ALEXANDER SOLZHENITSYN

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,496003-4,00.html

873.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 11:50 pm

Miss Cicciona (Fatty) of Italy

19th edition of "Miss Cicciona d´Italia" (Miss Fatty of Italy) -
Some of the competitors

874.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 12:04 am

THE GUINEA PIG GAMES 2009

...a new calendar maintain that some animals are also getting in on the action . In what will rival the main event in Beijing the Guinea Pig Games have been captured on film and reveal the furry rodents bid for medal glory . The two sporty little individuals called Bandit and Ginger...
www.calendarclub.co.uk

875.       mltm
3690 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 12:12 am

Quoting thehandsom:


Awwwww how cuteeeeee! I love GUINEA PIGS!!!!!!

876.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 12:17 am

Quoting thehandsom:

THE GUINEA PIG GAMES 2009

...a new calendar maintain that some animals are also getting in on the action . In what will rival the main event in Beijing the Guinea Pig Games have been captured on film and reveal the furry rodents bid for medal glory . The two sporty little individuals called Bandit and Ginger...
www.calendarclub.co.uk



Fantastic trick photography - nearly as good as my bee on a thistle!

877.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 01:33 pm

Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................

878.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 01:39 pm

Quoting libralady:

Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................


haha
But look at the comments from the wives..
They seem jolly and happy
"When you marry a man with 86 wives you know he knows how to look after them"

879.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 01:39 pm

Quoting libralady:

Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................



Poor guy - imagine all these mothers-in-law

880.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 01:50 pm

I don´t know if anyone saw the UK TV programme called Tribal Wives recently? It was VERY interesting to learn how this system works - and in a way it makes a little more sense when you live in a tribe where the women are expected to do so much!.

Women with the same husband live in a kind of commune and hope their husbands will have plenty of wives to help with all the work. They shared childcare and all the chores (of course they did absolutely everything, while the men sat around looking at the goats all day!).

What I really loved was the fact that they all had young boyfriends! In fact, if a wife didn´t have have boyfriends and admirers, the husband was disappointed because it meant she was not such a "catch". Some of them never had sex with their husband - it was more like joining a safe (and rich) community than marriage....

881.       Trudy
7887 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 05:10 pm

A 70-year old giant turtle living on the Galapagos Islands might become father again. He is the oldest and only male of his sort and after 36 years of non-reproductive activities he and two female turtles produced eleven eggs.

This video which is partly in English and partly in Dutch, shows more. (Sorry for the commercial in the beginning.)

882.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 09:49 pm

Robbie Coltrane Wanted in New Zealand

883.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 10:27 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Robbie Coltrane Wanted in New Zealand



You know how this came about? Ther person who they are really after is the spitting image of Robbie Coltraine and because of some ridiculous privacy law, they cannot post the actual photo of the criminal in question. So good ol´ Robbie gets a bit of pulicity!

884.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Aug 2008 Fri 10:28 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting libralady:

Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................


haha
But look at the comments from the wives..
They seem jolly and happy
"When you marry a man with 86 wives you know he knows how to look after them"



If they are all capable, he would have sex with each one of them 4.2 times a year, as long as he could manage it!

885.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 12:00 am

Edwards admits to affair, denies fathering child

WASHINGTON - Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday admitted to an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer. He denied fathering the woman´s daughter. Edwards told ABC News that he lied repeatedly about the affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter but said that he didn´t love her.
The National Enquirer first reported on the affair in October 2007, and Edwards denied it.
"The story is false," he told reporters. "It´s completely untrue, ridiculous." He professed his love for his wife, Elizabeth, who had an incurable form of cancer, saying, "I´ve been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years and as anybody who´s been around us knows, she´s an extraordinary human being, warm, loving, beautiful, sexy and as good a person as I have ever known. So the story´s just false."
Last month, the Enquirer carried another story stating that its reporters had accosted Edwards in a Los Angeles hotel where he had met with Hunter after her child´s birth. Edwards called it "tabloid trash," but he generally avoided reporters´ inquiries, as did his former top aides.
In the interview, scheduled to air on ABC News´ "Nightline," Edwards said the tabloid was correct when it reported on his meeting with Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
... and I thought he was a decent candidate...

886.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 12:10 am

Quoting catwoman:

Edwards admits to affair, denies fathering child

WASHINGTON - Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday admitted to an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer. He denied fathering the woman´s daughter. Edwards told ABC News that he lied repeatedly about the affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter but said that he didn´t love her.
The National Enquirer first reported on the affair in October 2007, and Edwards denied it.
"The story is false," he told reporters. "It´s completely untrue, ridiculous." He professed his love for his wife, Elizabeth, who had an incurable form of cancer, saying, "I´ve been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years and as anybody who´s been around us knows, she´s an extraordinary human being, warm, loving, beautiful, sexy and as good a person as I have ever known. So the story´s just false."
Last month, the Enquirer carried another story stating that its reporters had accosted Edwards in a Los Angeles hotel where he had met with Hunter after her child´s birth. Edwards called it "tabloid trash," but he generally avoided reporters´ inquiries, as did his former top aides.
In the interview, scheduled to air on ABC News´ "Nightline," Edwards said the tabloid was correct when it reported on his meeting with Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
... and I thought he was a decent candidate...



I think the using the word decent when referring to a politician is probably not advisable...

I just can´t imagine how his wife is dealing with this. I am sure next week he will have to admit the baby is his.

887.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 12:19 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

I think the using the word decent when referring to a politician is probably not advisable...

I just can´t imagine how his wife is dealing with this. I am sure next week he will have to admit the baby is his.


True, true... His wife should cut his balls off and serve them to him for dinner.

888.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 12:42 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Elisabeth:

I think the using the word decent when referring to a politician is probably not advisable...

I just can´t imagine how his wife is dealing with this. I am sure next week he will have to admit the baby is his.


True, true... His wife should cut his balls off and serve them to him for dinner.


This is a bit accessive and harsh..is it not?

889.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 01:15 am

Quoting thehandsom:

This is a bit accessive and harsh..is it not?


Maybe it is! Just like it was for him to cheat on his wife as she was diagnosed with an incurable cancer. If he plays with low blows and no rules apply then he deserves the same.
(of course we don´t know what kind of marriage they had, maybe the wife was happy to have him off her back. I am assuming that this was a betrayal)

890.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 01:46 am

Quoting catwoman:


... and I thought he was a decent candidate...


Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.

891.       alameda
3499 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 02:01 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


... and I thought he was a decent candidate...


Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.



There are some questions that should not be asked. Peeking in peoples keyholes is a despicable thing.

892.       Astarte
54 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 02:09 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


... and I thought he was a decent candidate...


Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.



Does ıt count ıf they are good and consıstent lıars? lol

893.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 04:35 am

Quoting Astarte:

Does ıt count ıf they are good and consıstent lıars? lol


+1 lol lol lol

894.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 04:39 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.


I do care about the ethical standards of my president. This is not a regular job based on his CV. He (sadly, it has never been a "she" in this country with presumed equality ) is elected based on his character and trust that people have that he will do what is best for the country and for people. He will have a lot of power that people trust he will use well.
If it was my boss at work, I wouldn´t care, I can always quit and go somewhere else and he won´t make laws that will affect my life. But if it´s a president, I do care what his standards are.

Of course, one incident does not determine what kind of person he is. But if you have such a powerful position, you have to deserve it by being very special.

895.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 06:20 am

Reporters found Edwards´ affair tough to prove
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/08/edwards.affair/index.html

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jT9FAYyMpbv_imQT8mFYveeOfdCAD92ED75O0

896.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 06:32 am

Quoting Roswitha:

Reporters found Edwards´ affair tough to prove


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jT9FAYyMpbv_imQT8mFYveeOfdCAD92ED75O0


He admitted though.

897.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 09:50 am

I won´t post all text, some members might be shocked.... but if you, being a female, want to know how to get your ahum..... private parts in better ´shape´ look at this page:

 

http://theperfectphit.com/

 

{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} {#lang_emotions_shy}

898.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:18 am

QUOTING Trudy

 

I won´t post all text, some members might be shocked.... but if you, being a female, want to know how to get your ahum..... private parts in better ´shape´ look at this page:

 

http://theperfectphit.com/

 

{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 

Trudy, this is amazing!! I´ve been looking for the right place where I can get my vaginal rejuvenation done and this is exactly it! Perfect! {#lang_emotions_flowers}

899.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 02:31 pm

"A hero is no brave than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer"

-Ralph Waldo Emerson

900.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 02:45 pm

QUOTING catwoman

 

QUOTING Trudy

 

I won´t post all text, some members might be shocked.... but if you, being a female, want to know how to get your ahum..... private parts in better ´shape´ look at this page:

 

http://theperfectphit.com/

 

{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 

Trudy, this is amazing!! I´ve been looking for the right place where I can get my vaginal rejuvenation done and this is exactly it! Perfect! {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

I have huge respect for the women who goes for ´Kegel exercise´ for gaining back pelvic floor muscle strength..

 

Respect!!!!

 

 

901.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 03:21 pm

Wipe Your Tush on Bush!!

 

 

http://www.topplebush.com/bush_toiletpaper.shtml

902.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:14 pm

A must watch!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE9_Za7ROTw

903.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:18 pm

 

Two things: would something like this be possible in Turkey? A huge NO.

 

Second, I would be scared to touch this face to my backside. My backside is far too important.

904.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:21 pm

Another must watch of a horrible reality in certain contries of Religion of Peace.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=6GZal9XVPYs

905.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:27 pm

Islamic Contributions to the Olympic Games

 

GRUESOME details emerged yesterday of Monday´s terrorist attack in western China as Beijing vowed to run a safe Olympic Games.

Witnesses said attackers in the Muslim northwestern city of Kashgar ran down police officers with a truck, set off explosives and hacked the injured with machetes.

Sixteen officers were killed in the attack, with state media blaming separatists from the Uighur ethnic group - a Turkic-speaking people who have long rebelled under Chinese rule.

"It was quite sickening to watch - my wife almost threw up and had to lie down afterwards," said Wlodzislaw Duch, a Polish tourist who watched the gruesome scene unfold across the street from his hotel room.

Mr Duch said two men who appeared to be dressed in police uniforms ploughed a truck through the group of officers.

They then tossed small explosives at the stunned police, who numbered "at least a couple of dozen".

He said the attackers leapt out of the truck and hacked at the officers on the ground with short swords resembling machetes.

Muslim men who carried out the attack were carrying documents calling for a "holy war", police said yesterday.

"On the scene, police also found two knives used in the attack and some propaganda material advocating a ´holy war´," a public security ministry statement said.

The statement said the men used explosives similar to those found in a raid on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a UN-listed terrorist organisation.

The Beijing Olympic organising committee yesterday moved to quell security fears and said authorities were confident they could deal with any kind of threat to the Games opening on Friday.

"We can guarantee a safe and peaceful Olympic Games," spokesman Sun Weide said.

He said there was still no information directly linking the attack in the Xinjiang region with the Olympics.

The massacre has also sparked a row between Japan and China.

A Japanese Nippon Television Network reporter and a Chunichi Shimbun newspaper photographer suffered minor injuries when they were detained and beaten by paramilitary police as they covered the attack in Kashgar.

 

------------------

 

Beijing, 8 August (AKI) - Nine people were reported to have been killed on Friday in an explosion in the northwest Chinese city of Ili, in the country´s predominantly Muslim province of Xinjang.

Local sources told a correspondent from the Arab television network, al-Jazeera, that a big explosion occurred hours before the Olympic Games were due to begin in Beijing on Friday (Photo).

It was not immediately clear whether the explosion was caused by a deliberate attack or an accident.

A Jihadist group, Ansar al-Jihad, said on Thursday it planned to post a video related to attacks which killed 16 policemen in the restive northwestern Muslim region of Xinjiang on Monday.

Last month a group calling itself the Turkestan Islamic Party claimed responsibility for several bus bombings in Shanghai and Kunming, capital of the southwestern province of Yunnan.

Turkestan is another name for Xinjiang. The province is home to several ethnic groups but is mainly made up of Muslim Uighurs, who have a Turkic language and culture.

Uighur separatists have for decades waged a campaign against Chinese rule.

906.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:33 pm

QUOTING zhang ziyi

 

GRUESOME details emerged yesterday of Monday´s terrorist attack in western China as Beijing vowed to run a safe Olympic Games.


Witnesses said attackers in the Muslim northwestern city of Kashgar ran down police officers with a truck, set off explosives and hacked the injured with machetes.

Sixteen officers were killed in the attack, with state media blaming separatists from the Uighur ethnic group - a Turkic-speaking people who have long rebelled under Chinese rule.

 

 

Oh my god..... {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

907.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:37 pm

QUOTING zhang ziyi

 

Islamic Contributions to the Olympic Games

 

GRUESOME details emerged yesterday of Monday´s terrorist attack in western China as Beijing vowed to run a safe Olympic Games.

Witnesses said attackers in the Muslim northwestern city of Kashgar ran down police officers with a truck, set off explosives and hacked the injured with machetes.

Sixteen officers were killed in the attack, with state media blaming separatists from the Uighur ethnic group - a Turkic-speaking people who have long rebelled under Chinese rule.

"It was quite sickening to watch - my wife almost threw up and had to lie down afterwards," said Wlodzislaw Duch, a Polish tourist who watched the gruesome scene unfold across the street from his hotel room.

Mr Duch said two men who appeared to be dressed in police uniforms ploughed a truck through the group of officers.

They then tossed small explosives at the stunned police, who numbered "at least a couple of dozen".

He said the attackers leapt out of the truck and hacked at the officers on the ground with short swords resembling machetes.

Muslim men who carried out the attack were carrying documents calling for a "holy war", police said yesterday.

"On the scene, police also found two knives used in the attack and some propaganda material advocating a ´holy war´," a public security ministry statement said.

The statement said the men used explosives similar to those found in a raid on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a UN-listed terrorist organisation.

The Beijing Olympic organising committee yesterday moved to quell security fears and said authorities were confident they could deal with any kind of threat to the Games opening on Friday.

"We can guarantee a safe and peaceful Olympic Games," spokesman Sun Weide said.

He said there was still no information directly linking the attack in the Xinjiang region with the Olympics.

The massacre has also sparked a row between Japan and China.

A Japanese Nippon Television Network reporter and a Chunichi Shimbun newspaper photographer suffered minor injuries when they were detained and beaten by paramilitary police as they covered the attack in Kashgar.

 

------------------

 

Beijing, 8 August (AKI) - Nine people were reported to have been killed on Friday in an explosion in the northwest Chinese city of Ili, in the country´s predominantly Muslim province of Xinjang.

Local sources told a correspondent from the Arab television network, al-Jazeera, that a big explosion occurred hours before the Olympic Games were due to begin in Beijing on Friday (Photo).

It was not immediately clear whether the explosion was caused by a deliberate attack or an accident.

A Jihadist group, Ansar al-Jihad, said on Thursday it planned to post a video related to attacks which killed 16 policemen in the restive northwestern Muslim region of Xinjiang on Monday.

Last month a group calling itself the Turkestan Islamic Party claimed responsibility for several bus bombings in Shanghai and Kunming, capital of the southwestern province of Yunnan.

Turkestan is another name for Xinjiang. The province is home to several ethnic groups but is mainly made up of Muslim Uighurs, who have a Turkic language and culture.

Uighur separatists have for decades waged a campaign against Chinese rule.

 

 

crappy Chinese propaganda.

 

here is your chance to learn more about the real terrorism by the Chinese in Beijing

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/08/09/olympics.murder/index.html

908.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:40 pm

A Chinese attacker stabbed to death the father-in-law of a U.S. Olympic coach and seriously wounded the American´s wife and a Chinese tour guide before killing himself, the International Olympic Committee said Saturday.

Todd and Barbara Bachman of Lakeville, Minnesota, were attacked at the Drum Tower, an ancient monument in downtown Beijing, the IOC and Chinese authorities said.

Barbara Bachman´s injuries are "serious and life-threatening," an IOC statement said. The tour guide´s condition was not immediately clear.

Todd Bachman was the father-in-law of U.S. Olympic men´s indoor volleyball head coach Hugh McCutcheon. McCutcheon´s wife, 2004 U.S. Olympic women´s indoor volleyball player Elisabeth Bachman McCutcheon, was with her parents when they were attacked, but she was not hurt, the IOC said.

909.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:50 pm

Olympics: Controversy in Iran over female flag carrier

 

Tehran, 8 August (AKI) - Iranian religious figures have criticised that Olympic female rower Homa Hosseini was chosen as the flagbearer of Iran, calling the move a ´heresy´.

"To make a woman march with the flag of the Islamic Republic in Beijing, is pure heresy and shows total disobedience of the laws mandated by our spiritual guides," said Seyye Ahmad Elmalhoda, leader of Friday prayers in Iran´s holy city of Mashad.

Hosseini, 19, grew up in Iran´s Kermanshah province in western Iran, she is one of three Iranian female competitors at the Olympic Games and Iran´s first ever female rower. The other two female competitors are Najmeh Abtin (archery) and Sara Khosjamal (Tae Kwon Do).

"To make this woman march means to openly declare war to our religious values. Whoever is responsible for this unforgivable act, he should know that this gesture constitutes an obstacle for the ´appearance´ of Mahdi," said Elmalhoda.

He was referring to the mainly Shia Islam belief that imam Mohammed al-Mahdi will appear to fight a final apocalyptic battle over the forces of evil.

Followers believe he was born in the year 868 and has been in hiding ever since awaiting a decision from god to reappear.

910.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 10:52 pm

Body language:
Also Turkish body language is different from British and it can often say more than a thousand words.
Inclining head backwards raising eyebrows: means “no”
Inclining head forwards: means “yes”
Shaking your head from side to side: You do not understand what is being said
One hand placed on the heart: You are very excited
Bending hand downwards at wrist and waving: means ”come closer” or can be a means for stopping buses or taxis. To ”thumb it” is not known in Turkey.
Rubbing your palms against each other:means ”done” or to finish something
Turned-up palm and fingers held together forming a small ”bowl” : means “good”, and is used for example when commenting on food

911.       Astarte
54 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 11:17 pm

QUOTING Roswitha

Body language:
Also Turkish body language is different from British and it can often say more than a thousand words.
Inclining head backwards raising eyebrows: means “no”
Inclining head forwards: means “yes”
Shaking your head from side to side: You do not understand what is being said
One hand placed on the heart: You are very excited
Bending hand downwards at wrist and waving: means ”come closer” or can be a means for stopping buses or taxis. To ”thumb it” is not known in Turkey.
Rubbing your palms against each other:means ”done” or to finish something
Turned-up palm and fingers held together forming a small ”bowl” : means “good”, and is used for example when commenting on food

 Apart from the first and the last not much different to British really

 

912.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 11:30 pm

Christian attrocities in history:

 

Christians have always portrayed non-Christian civilizations as backwards,  underdeveloped, superstitious, and barbaric.
  What really underlies all of their criticism is that these cultures do not accept Jesus, the  Bible 
....shows that they  are really the ones who are showing the qualities of barbarians.

 

 

913.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 09 Aug 2008 Sat 11:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Christian attrocities in history:

 

Christians have always portrayed non-Christian civilizations as backwards, underdeveloped, superstitious, and barbaric.
What really underlies all of their criticism is that these cultures do not accept Jesus, the Bible
....shows that they are really the ones who are showing the qualities of barbarians.

 

 

 

 

 

excellent post!

 

914.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 12:33 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

excellent post!

 

Well..I dont think it is an excellent post..

I was just trying to show how easy is to go and find these things on the net. That is all..

915.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 12:53 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Well..I dont think it is an excellent post..

I was just trying to show how easy is to go and find these things on the net. That is all..

 

 

it`s still an excellent post no matter what the purpose is!

 

916.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 04:32 am

 

Guinness world record card stacker Bryan Berg completes a model of the Beijing Athlete Village out of playing cards in Hong Kong on July 24, 2008. Berg took 160 hours to construct the entire piece, which includes famous Beijing landmarks such as the National Stadium, also known as the "Bird´s Nest, the National Aquatics Center and the Beijing CCTV Tower. Berg commented saying that the biggest challenge was the Bird´s Nest because of its many curves and cantilevers.

http://www.lifeinthefastlane.ca/worlds-tallest-structure-of-playing-cards

917.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 05:04 am

Chinese cheered by solar eclipse a week before Olympics, after months of natural disasters.

 

Following the northern route of the ancient Silk Road, it passed over the western desert county of Yiwu, where about 10,000 tourists gathered to watch after astronomers said it would have the best view; over Dunhuang, where the oldest known map of the stars was found in a desert cave a century ago; and over Jiuquan, where China launched its first manned spaceflight.


http://www.newsday.com/news/science/wire/sns-ap-solar-eclipse,0,2743716.story

 

 

 

 

Eclipse darkens NW China, a week before Olympics

Lucy Hornby ,  Reuters

Published: Friday, August 01, 2008

JIAYUGUAN, China - Darkness fell over the last outpost of the Great Wall of China on Friday, where a rare total solar eclipse ended its journey across the earth, delighting skywatchers one week before the Olympics open in Beijing.

The stellar spectacle - when the moon passes between the sun and the Earth - began in Canada, tracked across Greenland and crept into Siberia, before ringing in the momentous month of August in China, when it will host the Games.

In northwest China, cheers went up from the Jiayuguan Fort as hordes of tourists welcomed the eclipse.

An airplane flies past during a partial solar eclipse in Almaty August 1, 2008. REUTERS/Zturgan AldauyevView Larger Image

An airplane flies past during a partial solar eclipse in Almaty August 1, 2008. REUTERS/Zturgan Aldauyev

"It´s really doubly special, because I´m standing here on the Great Wall and watching it," said Feng Lei, a backpacker from the China´s southwestern province of Sichuan, who was making his way to Beijing for the Olympics.

Eclipses were considered dark omens by ancient Chinese astronomers but many Chinese view this one as particularly fortunate as it comes exactly a week before the torch is lit in Beijing for the opening ceremony of Games designed to restore China´s pride and showcase its achievements.

"I have a really deep feeling, especially because it´s exactly eight days before the Olympics," said Chuai Rui, college student from Xi´an. Chinese consider eight a lucky number.

In Russia, thousands had flocked from around the world to Novosibirsk, mixing awe with excitement as day turned into night.

All gazed in wonder as an eerie silence descended on the Siberian city and gusts of unusually strong wind tore through the crowd of skywatchers. Birds stopped chirping and the temperature suddenly dropped, a Reuters TV reporter there said.

In Russia´s second city of Petersburg, people shouted "Look! Look!" and pointed as the sun´s outer corona appeared in the sky.

"You just feel part of nature. ... This is so rare," said Lev, a software specialist in St Petersburg.

Several thousand people turned out at a park in Norway´s capital, Oslo, where the eclipse was near 50 percent, to peer up at the sun through dark glasses in cardboard frames and see pictures of the total eclipse beamed onto a large screen from an plane tracking the phenomenon in the Arctic.

Many in the Oslo crowd, which included many families with small children, tried photographing the eclipse, some with their mobile phones pressed against their eclipse sunglasses.

"There´s a strange light now," said Norwegian astronomer and popular author Knut Jorgen Roed Odegaard as the eclipse progressed and the midday light in Oslo grew slightly dimmer with a silvery sharpness.

"These are historical pictures," he said as real-time photos from a Norwegian air force plane appeared on the big outdoor screen to show the total eclipse from the Arctic.

 http://www.earthview.com/ages/mystified.htm

 

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918.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 09:39 am

http://omoikane.minstrum.net/one-world.jpg

919.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 10:08 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

 

Body language:

 

 

Actually Turkish body language isn´t hard to understand - the only weird/different thing is that clicking sound done with tongue to say "no." Body language is way more fun in Bulgaria - they nod their head for "no" and shake it from side to side to say "yes" lol

 

920.       Trudy
7887 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 10:23 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Actually Turkish body language isn´t hard to understand - the only weird/different thing is that clicking sound done with tongue to say "no." Body language is way more fun in Bulgaria - they nod their head for "no" and shake it from side to side to say "yes" lol

 

 

 OMG, then I probably made many mistakes when I was 15 years ago in Bulgaria.... lol

 

921.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 12:31 pm

"Criminals" of China....

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7047154.stm

 

922.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 02:06 pm

... I think I should clarify (under my new rules) that this is not a judgement of the situation.  As I am not aware of all the facts, I have no comment on the fact that China has jailed journalists, lawyers to abused women and civil rights activists.

 

I am sure they have very worthy reasons.. {#lang_emotions_angel}

923.       Trudy
7887 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 02:10 pm

 

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea

... I think I should clarify (under my new rules) that this is not a judgement of the situation.  As I am not aware of all the facts, I have no comment on the fact that China has jailed journalists, lawyers to abused women and civil rights activists.

 

I am sure they have very worthy reasons.. {#lang_emotions_angel}

 

 

 YOUR new rules? {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

924.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 02:13 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

YOUR new rules? {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 

Yes dearest Trudy - the rules that do not appear in the TC Rules but are specifically created for me .

925.       Trudy
7887 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 02:16 pm

 

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea

Yes dearest Trudy - the rules that do not appear in the TC Rules but are specifically created for me .

 

 

Sorry if I disappoint you, but I don´t think that Admin will spend much of his time to create special rules for one member.

926.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 02:19 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

Sorry if I disappoint you, but I don´t think that Admin will spend much of his time to create special rules for one member.

 

 

 Thank you so much for your help dear.  I shall ignore the complaint I got from the mods then and live a happy life knowing that Admin has not been bothered

 

You help and judgement was invaluable.

 

927.       Trudy
7887 posts
 10 Aug 2008 Sun 02:21 pm

 

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea

You help and judgement was invaluable.

 

 

 Bir sey değil, dear Aenigma.

928.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 09:26 am

Aenigma´s gone....again.

 

  Mourning Over Dead Friend

929.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 11:33 am

Darwish, poet of the Palestinian cause, dies after surgery

"He translated the pain of the Palestinians in a magical way," said Egypt´s vernacular poet Ahmed Fouad Negm. "He made us cry and made us happy and shook our emotions. Apart from being the poet of the Palestinian wound, which is hurting all Arabs and all honest people in the world, he is a master poet."

..

From "A State of Siege"

The soldiers measure the space between being and nothingness with field-glasses behind a tank´s armoury

We measure the space between our bodies and the coming rockets with our sixth sense alone

 

From theindependent

930.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 05:05 pm

Dicing with death for Gaza: Day 9
This slow genocide of the people of Gaza is a shame to all of us.

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=66167&sectionid=3510304

931.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 05:14 pm

Hydropolis Underwater Hotel, Dubai, United Arab Emirates built by a German company, assembled in Dubai

932.       Trudy
7887 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 06:27 pm

A teacher in Bangladesh has been fired for cutting off the hair of his students as punishment. According to the principal the teacher was not able to handle the behaviour of his 14 and 15 year old students. The teacher grabbed scissors and cutted the hair one after another. The students were shocked and speechlees, the principal of the school in the southwest part of the country said. In total there are 14 students cropped.

 

**********

Hmmm, what do teachers on TLC to when they can´t handle their students? lol

 

933.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 06:48 pm

we were trained as children, to be a follower or a leader. Many of us were trained to surrender our power early in life. In usually subtle ways we were taught to live by the rules imposed on us by parents, society, religious leadership and educational training, and taught to be followers- not leaders. Do you recognize a few of these rules?

Be nice.
Be quiet.
Don’t get too excited.
Don’t get too big for your britches.
Be seen and not heard.
Put the needs of others before your own.
Keep your expectations low.
Be modest.
Keep the peace at any cost.
Don’t threaten others by being too bright.
Don’t toot your own horn.
Do what I tell you to do.
Don’t be too proud of yourself.
Be happy with what you have.
Don’t be a know-it-all.
Don’t be so full of yourself.


Be courageous.
Think big.
Stop apologizing when you’ve done nothing wrong.

934.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 12:19 am

Why isn´t Obama crushing McCain

 

 

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/08/11/obama/index.html

935.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 01:30 am

For rich, foreign aid is a tool of persuasion


A study finds countries like the US and Japan reward nations that support them at the UN with generous ´aid´

| Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

Foreign aid often is likened to charity. A rich nation gives money to poor countries with the goal of meeting humanitarian needs and speeding economic development - at least in theory.

In reality, when the United States, Japan, or European nations give aid, they generally have important political and security motivations.



"The direction of foreign aid is dictated as much by political and strategic considerations as by the economic needs and policy performance of the recipients," notes a study by economists Alberto Alesina of Harvard University and David Dollar of the World Bank.


A major example is foreign aid to Israel and Egypt, the latter as reward for reaching a peace deal with Israel in 1979. Aid to the two nations has for many years amounted to about one-third of America´s total foreign aid. "Israel shouldn´t need aid," says foreign-aid expert John Sewell. "It´s a rich country."


But for domestic political reasons, plus the fact that Israel stands out as the only US-friendly democracy in the region, the US helps Israel out financially in its violent and costly struggle with the Palestinians. This spring, in the supplemental bill covering the cost of war with Iraq, Congress voted to give Israel an extra $1 billion in military assistance and $9 billion in new loan guarantees. That´s on top of the annual $2.7 billion already granted Israel.


In the 1980s, during the cold war, the four top recipients of American foreign aid in Africa were Somalia, Sudan, Zaire (now Congo), and Liberia. To a large degree the money was meant to bolster noncommunist regimes - no matter how awful - in the competition with the Soviet Union for world influence.


Under the late President Mobutu Sese Seko, Zaire got nine loans from the World Bank - with US approval - despite an abysmal economic record. "All of that money was wasted in a development sense," says Mr. Sewell, of the Smithsonian Institution. Some of it fattened the pocketbooks of grim tyrants.


With the end of the cold war a decade ago, idealists hoped that bilateral aid would be directed more for genuine development and humanitarian purposes.


The Bush administration´s plan to spend $15 billion over five years in the fight against AIDS overseas may reflect "a greater willingness to devote American assistance dollars to matters of economic development," suggests Tamara Wittes, an analyst at the US Institute for Peace in Washington, D.C . "It may produce positive political benefits down the road in Africa. But it is really a humanitarian gesture."


"I hope the world has changed," says Mr. Dollar, whose study covered 25 years of aid ending in 1995. "But politics is still going to be in play."


That was shown this winter as the US and Britain scrambled unsuccessfully to find enough supporters in the United Nations Security Council to pass a second resolution backing an invasion of Iraq. The US offered Turkey as much as $6 billion in foreign aid if it allowed allied troops to move into Iraq through its territory. Turkey may still get some aid for not moving its troops into the Kirkuk oil field.


US aid to Pakistan, cut off in 1998 when Pakistan exploded an atomic bomb, was renewed when the country became a US ally in the fight against terrorism and Al Qaeda. In the case of North Korea, the US and South Korea are struggling with a predicament: Should they provide food aid to help ward off hunger in the North on a humanitarian basis or hold up help to engage or punish Pyongyang for its pursuit of nuclear weapons?


Other political factors affect aid levels. The Alesina-Dollar paper finds that "friends" of the US or Japan that vote "correctly" at the UN have been rewarded substantially with extra foreign aid. An alternative but less favored explanation is that donors simply "buy" political support in the UN from developing countries, the authors note.


Another factor influencing aid is colonial status. A nondemocratic former colony gets about twice as much aid from its former colonizer as a democratic noncolony nation; former colonies closed to trade get more than open noncolonies. This is especially true of French aid.


The report found that Nordic countries do better in responding to the "correct" incentives for aid, namely low income levels, good governmental institutions, and openness to trade and foreign investment.


In general, though, the pattern of giving foreign aid across developing nations "provides evidence as to why [aid] is not more effective at promoting growth and poverty reduction," it says.


In the case of Israel, a key question today is whether President Bush will use foreign aid as leverage in seeking peace in the Middle East. "To what extent will the administration try to tie it to implementation of the road map?" asks Scott Lasensky, an analyst at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. "He will have an opportunity to do so."


Israel may be specially vulnerable to economic pressure today. The costs of the intifada and suicide bombers - hitting tourism, shrinking the supply of relatively cheap Palestinian labor, keeping military reservists from their civilian jobs - have pushed Israel´s economy into recession. Unemployment exceeds 10 percent.


The new $1 billion in military assistance became Israel´s 30 days after Mr. Bush signed the supplemental bill. Because Israel can spend $263 million of that sum on purchases from its own defense firms, the aid amounts to support of Israel´s defense industry.


But the $9 billion in loan guarantees - spread over three years - has conditions attached. These, in theory, could be used to pressure Israel to make concessions. One condition allows Bush to reduce the size of the loan guarantee by the amount Israel´s government spends expanding settlements in the West Bank or Gaza.


"The president has an authority to stop the loan guarantee if we do not comply," notes Boaz Raday, economic minister of the Israeli Embassy in Washington.


If Bush uses the road map and economic leverage to win a settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he will go down in history as a peacemaker. But with reelection looming, one source says he does not expect Bush to stick to a tough stand for long.

936.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:38 pm

On September 8, 1900, the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history occured here on Galveston Island. A hurricane slammed ashore, and caused a storm surge that put the entire island underneath the waters of the Gulf of Mexico. Along with the incredible devistation and destruction caused by the ferocious wind, rain, and flooding, over 8,000 people lost their lives. Over 90 of them were children and sisters at St. Mary´s orphanage, which was completely leveled as a result of the storm. The hurricane changed the city forever, which had been the largest city in Texas. In the years to come, a seawall was built to protect the city, and the entire city itself was raised over 6 feet with sand being pumped in under all buildings and residences. 100 years later, in the year 2000, a memorial was dedicated on the seawall in rememberance to what had occured here a century ago, and the thousands of lives that were lost. After hearing the story of the dramatic events that went on here, seeing the memorial can be a sobering moment to say the least.

937.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:45 pm

PANDAS ENJOY ICE BIRTHDAY CAKE

Giant pandas "Le Le" (L) and "Ying Ying" enjoy ice birthday cake at the Ocean Park in Hong Kong, south China, Aug. 12, 2008. Hong Kong´s Ocean Park held a party for the giant pandas´ third birthday on Aug. 12.

938.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 13 Aug 2008 Wed 04:33 am

Barak: Gaza attack would be ineffective
Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:55:05 GMT
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak has admitted that invading Gaza would not end the Palestinian resistance in the region.

 

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=66245&sectionid=351020202

939.       Cacık
296 posts
 13 Aug 2008 Wed 05:33 pm

A Light Hearted Article !

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7556154.stm

 

 

940.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 02:01 pm

10 bizarre beauty products -  botox or collagen injections are nothing new to us but how about bird poo or placenta anti-wrinkle cream?

941.       Cacık
296 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 02:37 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

10 bizarre beauty products -  botox or collagen injections are nothing new to us but how about bird poo or placenta anti-wrinkle cream?

 

 Yeewwww how gross !

942.       lady in red
6947 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 04:45 pm

Thehandsom(thehairy) - I found the perfect sport for you - you have to be prepared to make a couple of lifestyle changes but I am sure it will be worth it!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

A brief history and explanation of Greco-Roman wrestling.

Greco-Roman wrestling is the world´s oldest-known sport.  I popped in to see a couple of bouts and found this leaflet invaluable. I attach it below to give you the same kind of insight that we top sports journalists get... it´s only fair.

Eligibility

1. Only countries that end in "an" or "a" are eligible to take part in the sport (unfortunately you may need to move to Iran or possibly India )

2. Contestants must be shorter than 5ft 5in and have full body hair (front and back).(if you are taller than this you can stoop a bit)

3. Contestants must at all times be accompanied, and regularly berated by a 300lb trainer who resembles an angry bear who has been caught trying on lady bear outfits by his best bear buddies.

4. Competing nations must organise and bring along a rowdy bunch of short, aggressive-looking spectators, preferably with some sort of shady military background. They will deal with any border infractions of the segregated seating areas.

5. Contestants must be able to ignore any abuse from hostile crowds as to how homo-erotic the whole affair is.

What do you think?  Going to give it ago???  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

Original article

 

943.       sonunda
5004 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 05:09 pm

Countdown to Ramadan calendars in Asda-like the ones we have for advent-you open a little window every day on the days leading up to Christmas but I had never seen ones for Ramadan before.

944.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 05:34 pm

Amazing!

 

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=iaUBFqow9b8

945.       lady in red
6947 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 07:22 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

Amazing!

 

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=iaUBFqow9b8

 

 It certainly is!  Lovely clip Ros.

946.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Aug 2008 Thu 10:15 pm

Thanks, Roswith this was very touching. 

947.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Aug 2008 Fri 04:00 am

My pleasure, glad you liked it, Lady in Red and Teaschip! I love all creatures big and small.

948.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Aug 2008 Fri 04:26 pm

Lace makers move into G-strings
Koniakow´s website
The delicate underwear has attracted buyers all over the world
Renowned lace makers in the Polish village of Koniakow have found a new way of boosting sales - sexy underwear.

Artisans who used to create gowns and altar cloths for customers such as the late Pope now craft G-strings and other lingerie for sale all over the world.

They say the underwear is quicker to make and easier to sell than traditional goods such as tablecloths.

But not everyone in the deeply Catholic village is happy with the changes to the 200-year old industry.

"Our lace is well known in Poland," Mieczyslaw Kamieniarz, whose family has made lace for five generations, told the French news agency AFP.

"We have made it for John Paul II, for the Queen of England, for church altars. It´s shameful and humiliating for Koniakow that this very same lace is being worn on people´s backsides," he said.

Mieczyslaw Kamieniarz holds a more traditional piece of work
Traditionalists say the underwear betrays a 200-year-old craft
And some craftswomen apparently had doubts about the change.

"The priest told me that a woman came to confession and asked him if it was a sin to make G-strings," said Anna Barska, a 47-year-old lace maker.

But now many people have embraced the new business opportunity.

"Traditional lace craft was too expensive, so it wasn´t selling anymore. We weren´t making a living," said Malgorzata Sanaszek.

So when her experiment with G-strings proved to be a big hit, she set up a internet underwear sales company which now employs about 60 lace makers.

Buyers can choose bras, camisoles and other lingerie in dozens of delicate designs and colours. There is even a lacy thong on offer for men.

"Everything is guaranteed as 100% traditional Koniakow lace," Ms Sanaszek said.

 

 

 

 

http://koniakow.com/prasa_en.php#nyt

949.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Aug 2008 Fri 08:06 pm

People lacking common sense!!!

950.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Aug 2008 Fri 11:49 pm

GWB Library due to open in 2009




The George W. Bush Presidential Library is now in the final planning stages.

The Library will include:

The Hurricane Katrina Room, which is still under construction.

The Alberto Gonzales Room, where you won´t be able to remember anything.

The Texas Air National Guard Room, where you don´t even have to show up.

The Walter Reed Hospital Room, where they don´t let you in.

The Guantanamo Bay Room, where they don´t let you out.

The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room, which no one has been able to find.

The National Debt room which is huge and has no ceiling.

The ´Tax Cut´ Room with entry only to the wealthy.

The ´Economy Room´ which is in the toilet.

The Iraq War Room. After you complete your first tour, they make you to go back for a second, third, fourth, and sometimes fifth tour.

The Dick Cheney Room, in the famous undisclosed location,complete with shotgun gallery.

The Strategic National Energy Policy Room currently under construction by OPEC/Carlyle Group.

The Supreme Court´s Gift Shop, where you can buy an election.

The US Constitution Room is also under construction by the new and improved American Fascism Group aka American Enterprise Institute

The Airport Men´s Room, where you can meet some of your favorite Republican Senators.

951.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Aug 2008 Sat 04:24 pm

 
 
 
Obituary: Mahmoud Darwish
Mahmoud Darwish, the award-winning Palestinian poet, has died aged 67

Mahmoud Darwish, the poet widely regarded as being the voice of the Palestinian people and chronicler of their struggle following the creation of Israel, died on Saturday August 9 after 
undergoing open heart surgery in a US hospital.

Now that I am filled with all the possible
Reasons for departure
I am not mine
I am not mine
I am not mine …

(Mahmoud Darwish, 200

In these verses, published about eight years ago, Darwish seems to be saying farewell to the world.

But this farewell was not spurred by death, but by his exile from his homeland of Palestine that seemed to haunt him for his entire life.

Darwish, who was born on the 13th of March 1941, was forced into exile along with his family at the age of seven.

Illegal return

His family fled their home town of Barweh in Galilee in 1948 during the Nakbah, or ´Catastrophe´ - the name given by Palestinians to the creation of Israel when many were forced to flee what had formerly been Palestine.

A year later, he returned illegally with his family to his town, to become an exile in his own country.

He joined the Israeli communist party and started publishing poems in leftist newspapers. His poems brought him persecution from the Israeli authorities, and love from the Arab public who saw in him their collective conscience.

He left in 1971 to study for a year in what was then the Soviet Union, before travelling to Egypt where he worked for Al-Ahram newspaper.

He also worked in Beirut, the capital of Lebanon, as an editor for the journal Palestinian Issues, but was forced to leave after the 1982 Israeli invasion.

He spent his life in exile between Arab capitals, including Amman, and also Paris, the French capital.

Political ´divorce´

Darwish, who was a member of the executive committee of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO), resigned in 1993 in protest at the signing in Washington of the Oslo Accords.

The accords, agreed in Norway, were the first direct agreement between Israel and political representatives of Palestinians in which some Palestinian groups accepted the right of Israel to exist as a state in what had previously been Palestine.

Some observers saw his resignation as an act of divorce from politics, and believed he had forever abandoned the resistance by Palestinians to Israeli occupation.

Some saw this belief as being confirmed by the fact Palestine no longer remained the focus of his poetry.

But Darwish´s decision to be seen to leave politics and ideology in reality signalled his refusal to be used by politicians, or to abuse the Palestinian cause.

He wanted to be celebrated for his poetic talent but, as a Palestinian, he rejected the notion of building his fame on the bodies of dead Palestinians.

By doing so, he blended the Palestinian story with mythology, history and the trials and tribulations of the oppressed, making the Palestinian cause more vivid for a world audience - but also more personal.

Striving for humanity

Darwish sought to transcend the political experience into the wide realm of the human being.

This gave him a chance to innovate with poetic structure and the classical Arabic language and enabled him to preserve the flow and grace of his poetry, despite its complexity.

Darwish returned to Ramallah in 1996 and re-established the prestigious journal Al Karmel, which had been originally founded in 1981 but interrupted the following year by the Israeli invasion of Beirut, and remained its editor-in-chief until his death.

During his stay in Ramallah, the literary movement was thriving. He helped introduce other exiled authors to the public, including Ghassan Kanafani.

Darwish once said: "I thought poetry could change everything, could change history and could humanise ...  but now I think that poetry changes only the poet."

The reaction to his life, death and poetry testify to his error.

 Source: Al Jazeera
 

952.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 16 Aug 2008 Sat 04:43 pm

Bigfoot is dead?!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdWeenHW2U&feature=related

953.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Aug 2008 Sat 08:19 pm

Finding an ancient gold mask

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF56OW-wQUU&NR=1

954.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 17 Aug 2008 Sun 12:24 am

Green light from mullahs for killing of Shirin Ebadi?
The charge has been prompted by an accusation issued by official sources, saying that the Nobel laureate has become Bahai. For the Iranian criminal code, this makes her worthy of death, and if someone were to kill her he would not be punished.

Tehran (AsiaNews) - The life of Shirin Ebadi, Nobel peace prize winner in 2003, is in danger. Ebadi has been fearless in denouncing the oppression of human rights in her country. The alarm has been raised by Rooz, a website for Iranian exiles, which deduces it from the "charge" made a few days ago by the official news agency IRNA, saying that Ebadi and her daughter, a student at McGill University in Canada, have become members of the Bahai religion. The Bahai are considered a heretical Islamic group, and are persecuted.

The accusation, according to Rooz, is a sham set up to disguise the intention of having the woman killed, or at least of frightening her to the point of making her stop her activities in favor of human rights, or leave the country.

The explanation has been given on the basis of the Iranian criminal code. Article 226 stipulates that the killing of a person is subject to ´Ghesas´, or retaliatory punishment, "only if the victim did not deserve death based on the Sharia, and if the ‎victim deserved death the murderer must prove that in court, according to set criteria". According to Islamic law, apostasy, or abandoning Islam, is worthy of death. And her conversion to the Bahai faith puts Ebadi in this position.

As if that were not enough, a supplement to article 295 in the same criminal code stipulates that if a person kills another because he suspects that the victim deserves death, and this is proven in court, the killing is considered accidental homicide, and the author must only pay "blood money" to the victim´s family. But if the killer proves that the victim deserved death, he doesn´t even have to pay the "blood money", and will not face any penalty.

It is in the light of these laws that the article deduces in the first place that "they want to convince ignorant forces that Shirin Ebadi´s death is necessary. Any Muslim ‎who takes her life is not punished, and perhaps goes to heaven". In the second place, "they want to frighten her to abandon all human rights-related activities or even leave the ‎country".

955.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Aug 2008 Sun 04:52 am

Dicing with death for Gaza: Day 14
Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:42:38 GMT
By Yvonne Ridley
ISRAEL will stop at nothing to thwart the Free Gaza Movement.

And as our two-boat mission continues to head towards Cyprus there have been several attempts to undermine the heroic campaign to smash the siege of Gaza.

For instance, earlier this week someone fired a rocket at Israel from Gaza in defiance of the Hamas-brokered truce.

I can also tell you that whoever did fire the rocket into the Zionist State was also working for the Zionist State.

Yes, sadly, there are collaborators inside Gaza and the rocket firing was not only an attempt to wreck the cease-fire, it was a deliberate ploy to scupper the Free Gaza Movement which is gathering world attention and support.

As someone who has written about and studied the activities of intelligence agencies across the world for more than two decades, I can tell you that since the demise of the East German Stasi, there is no other spy agency as skilled at the art of black propaganda as Israel´s Mossad.

And I see my conclusion is also shared by a senior leader in Hamas, Dr Mahmud Zahar, who has criticised the rocket attack from Gaza in violation of a seven-week-old calm.

He said: "I think those who are responsible are those who collaborate with Israel because there is a consensus by all Palestinian groups to respect the truce."

The rocket fired from the Gaza Strip landed in an empty field outside the southern Israeli city of Sderot, causing no casualty or damage on Monday evening.

Speaking to Gaza radio station, Dr Zahar said whoever launched the rocket was "linked to Israel as they provide a pretext to exercise pressure on the Palestinian people."

And, of course, for every action there is a reaction by the Zionist State which uses such attacks to justify its vile actions. The following day Israel squeezed the immense pressure already exerted on the people of Gaza by closing the Nahal Oz crossing to Gaza Strip that is used to ferry in fuel and the Sufa passage for food deliveries to the impoverished and blockaded territory.

On his part, MP Jamal Al-Khudari, the head of the popular committee against the siege, strongly denounced the Israeli decision to close the crossings, stating that the Gaza commercial crossings are already paralyzed despite the calm.

In a press statement, Khudari underlined that the Gaza crossings especially Al-Mintar (Karni) crossing must remain open around the clock for more than a year in order to end the effects of the Israeli siege imposed on the Strip two years ago. The lawmaker also pointed out that Gaza needs more than 400 trucks laden with raw materials necessary for various industrial sectors.

Of course all this has given Israel yet another excuse to tighten its merciless grip on the world´s largest open air prison, and firing the rocket has given the Israeli Navy a good excuse to try and stop our seaborne mission to smash the siege of Gaza using two boats - the SS Free Gaza and the SS Liberty.

Their efforts will, of course, be in vain because as regular readers of this blog know, the Free Gaza Movement activists are determined to let nothing stop them in their peaceful mission to reach the people of Gaza by sea.

We are not asking permission to enter Israel. We pose absolutely no threat to Israel. We just want to reach the beach on the Gaza Strip with messages of peace, goodwill and some hearing aids for all those Palestinian children with hearing problems caused by Israeli bombs.

Of course the collaborators who fired the rocket into Israel earlier this week have not helped our cause, but I wonder just what pressure the Zionist State put on them to do this destructive action.

I only say this because of a report released just a few days ago which revealed Israel´s secret police are pressuring Palestinians in Gaza to spy on their community in exchange for urgent medical treatment.

The report was released by an Israeli human rights organisation. Physicians for Human Rights says the Shin Bet began interrogating Palestinian patients seeking permission to travel from Gaza to Israel for crucial medical help after Israel blockaded and then declared the tiny territory an enemy entity more than a year ago.

Typically, patients are taken to a small, windowless room, underground, beneath the security terminal at Erez, the only passenger crossing that remains open between Gaza and Israel, where they are questioned by Shin Bet agents for hours, the report says.

Refusal to cooperate often results in the denial of medical treatment. Based on the testimonies of more than 30 Palestinians - 11 of which are published - the report says the Shin Bet is using coercion and extortion to force patients to collaborate.

So you see, Israel´s intelligence services are capable of anything and believe me, I could write much more on what they´ve tried to do to stop us but that can wait until another day.

In the meantime our focus is Gaza and getting there, insh´Allah.

* Yvonne Ridley and film-maker Aki Nawaz are on board the Free Gaza and the SS Liberty making a documentary for Press TV about the journey from the Greek islands to Cyprus and then on to Gaza.

956.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Aug 2008 Sun 11:36 pm

Blast hits Azerbaijan mosque

Azerbaijan´s population are mostly Muslim,
but the government is secular [AP]

Two people have been killed and up to eight others wounded in a grenade attack on a mosque in Azerbaijan´s capital of Baku.

Police said a hand grenade was thrown into the mosque during evening prayers on Sunday.

More than 100 worshippers had gathered in the Abu-Bekr mosque for evening prayers when the explosion occured, an official said.

Ehsan Zahidov, an interior ministry spokesman, said seven or eight people were hospitalised after the blast.

Azerbaijan´s population are mostly Muslim, but the government of the former Soviet republic is secular.

957.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 05:04 pm

A special Parrot Olympic Games is held to celebrate the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games in Sheyang, China

958.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 05:48 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

A special Parrot Olympic Games is held to celebrate the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games in Sheyang, China

 How did the swimming events go?  Did they go down well? 

 

959.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 07:09 pm

The radical muslimorganisation Al-Quaida looses more and more support in the countryside of Iraq, the part where the organisation is still in power. One of the reasons for their decreasing popularity are their strict islamic-fundamentalistic laws for buying vegetables and fruit. Women are not allowed anymore to buy ´suggestive formed´ products. The Al-Quaida leaders mean with that cucumbers, carrots and stuff because they think immediately of the male private parts. What are women allowed to buy? Tomatoes! According to Al-Quaida these vegetables are female shaped.

 

Source: Maghrebmagazine.nl

960.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 08:40 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

The radical muslimorganisation Al-Quaida looses more and more support in the countryside of Iraq, the part where the organisation is still in power. One of the reasons for their decreasing popularity are their strict islamic-fundamentalistic laws for buying vegetables and fruit. Women are not allowed anymore to buy ´suggestive formed´ products. The Al-Quaida leaders mean with that cucumbers, carrots and stuff because they think immediately of the male private parts. What are women allowed to buy? Tomatoes! According to Al-Quaida these vegetables are female shaped.

 

Source: Maghrebmagazine.nl

 

 At first I laughed at this, but after sitting here pondering it..what a shame.  I find it odd that their popularity is decreasing based on "suggestive formed products"  What about suicide bombers? I can´t imagine their thought process.  Ok, is alright to call them crazies now? referring to Al-Quaida of course.

961.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 09:40 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 At first I laughed at this, but after sitting here pondering it..what a shame.  I find it odd that their popularity is decreasing based on "suggestive formed products"  What about suicide bombers? I can´t imagine their thought process.  Ok, is alright to call them crazies now? referring to Al-Quaida of course.

 

Of course this is not funny. It´s tragic what kind of mess the us has caused in the region. It´s disgusting.

962.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 10:19 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 At first I laughed at this, but after sitting here pondering it..what a shame.  I find it odd that their popularity is decreasing based on "suggestive formed products"  What about suicide bombers? I can´t imagine their thought process.  Ok, is alright to call them crazies now? referring to Al-Quaida of course.

 

The popularity is not decreasing because of these products but because of the ´law´ that says women are not allowed to buy these products anymore (they might get naughty ideas buying a cucumber...) so many people died of starvation!

963.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 10:21 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Of course this is not funny. It´s tragic what kind of mess the us has caused in the region. It´s disgusting.

 

Sorry, I blame the US for many things and I´m absolutely against the invasion of Iraq but to blame them for the idiot ideas of Al Quaida about cucumbers and carrots? No.

964.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 10:32 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Sorry, I blame the US for many things and I´m absolutely against the invasion of Iraq but to blame them for the idiot ideas of Al Quaida about cucumbers and carrots? No.

 

Well, it is not blaming them for the ideas of al quaida. It is blaming them for creating such a situation where Iraq is now in such a chaos that terrorists are ruling it internally.

965.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 04:18 am

 

Subject: Amerika, Amerika

The police state has arrived.

At JFK Airport, Denying Basic Rights Is Just Another Day at the Office
By Emily Feder, AlterNet. Posted August 18, 2008.

I arrived at JFK Airport two weeks ago after a short vacation to Syria and presented my American passport for re-entry to the United States. After 28 hours of traveling, I had settled into a hazy awareness that this was the last, most familiar leg of a long journey. I exchanged friendly words with the Homeland Security official who was recording my name in his computer. He scrolled through my passport, and when his thumb rested on my Syrian visa, he paused. Jerking toward the door of his glass-enclosed booth, he slid my passport into a dingy green plastic folder and walked down the hallway, motioning for me to follow with a flick of his wrist. Where was he taking me, I asked him. "You´ll find out," he said.

We got to an enclosed holding area in the arrivals section of the airport. He shoved the folder into my hand and gestured toward four sets of Homeland Security guards sitting at large desks. Attached to each desk were metal poles capped with red, white and blue siren lights. I approached two guards carrying weapons and wearing uniforms similar to New York City police officers, but they shook their heads, laughed and said, "Over there," pointing in the direction of four overflowing holding pens. I approached different desks until I found an official who nodded and shoved my green folder in a crowded metal file holder. When I asked him why I was there, he glared at me, took a sip from his water bottle, bit into a sandwich, and began to dig between his molars with his forefinger. I found a seat next to a man who looked about my age -- in his late 20s -- and waited.

Omar (not his real name) finished his fifth year in biomedical engineering at City College in June. He had just arrived from Beirut, where he visited his family and was waiting to go home to the apartment he shared with his brother in Harlem. Despite his near-perfect English and designer jeans, Omar looked scared. He rubbed his hands and rocked softly in his seat. He had been waiting for hours already, and, as he pointed out, a number of people -- some sick, elderly, pregnant or holding sobbing babies -- had too. There were approximately 70 people detained in our cordoned-off section: All were Arab (with the exception of me and the friend I traveled with), and almost all had arrived from Dubai, Amman or Damascus. Many were U.S. citizens.

We were in the front row, sitting a few feet from two guards´ desks. They sneered at each bewildered arrival, told jokes in whispers, swiveled in their office chairs and greeted passing guards who stopped to talk -- guards who had a habit of looping their fingers into their holsters. One asked his friend how many nationalities were represented in the room. "About 20. Some of everything today."

No one who had been detained knew precisely why they were there. A few people were led into private rooms; others were questioned out in the open at desks a few feet from the crowd and then allowed to pass through customs. Some were sent to another section of the holding area with large computer screens and cameras, and then brought back. The uninformed consensus among the detainees was that some people would be fingerprinted, have their irises scanned and be sent back to the countries from which they had disembarked, regardless of citizenship status; others would be fingerprinted and allowed to stay; and the unlucky ones would be detained indefinitely and moved to a more permanent facility.

There was one British tourist in the group. Paul (also not his real name) was traveling with three friends who had passed through customs soon after their plane landed and were waiting for him on the other side of the metal barrier; he suspected he had been detained because of his dark skin. When he asked if he could go to the bathroom, one of the guards said, "I wouldn´t." "What if someone has to?" I asked. "They will just have to hold it," the guard responded with a smile. Paul began to cry. I watched as he, over the course of four hours, went from feeling exuberant about his trip to New York to despising the entire country. "I speak the Queen´s English," he said to me. "I´m third-generation British. I came to America because I´ve always wanted to come here, and now they´ve got me so scared that all I want to do is go home. We´re paying for your stupid war anyway."

To be powerless and mocked at the same time makes one feel ashamed, which leads quickly to rage. Within a few hours of my arrival, I saw at least 10 people denied the right to use the bathroom or buy food and water. I watched my traveling companion duck under a barrier, run to the bathroom and slip back into the holding section -- which, of course, someone of another ethnicity in a state of panic would be very reluctant to do. The United States is good at naming enemies, but apparently we are even better at making them, especially of individuals. I don´t know if it´s worse for national security -- and more embarrassing for Americans -- that this is the first experience tourists have of our country, or that some U.S. citizens get treated this way upon entering their own country.

The guard who had been picking his molars for hours quietly mispronounced the names of people whose turn it was to be questioned, muttering each surname three times and then moving on. When he called Omar from City College to his desk, I moved closer to hear the interview. "Where did you go?" the officer asked. "What is your address in the United States? Is your brother here illegally? Do you support Hezbollah? What do you think of Hezbollah in general? How do you pay for your life here? How many people live with you? Are you sure it´s just you and your brother? Who are your friends?" Omar answered respectfully and emphatically; he was then asked to wait by the side of the desk, from which he was ushered toward one of the rooms.

After four hours, I finally demanded to speak to the guards´ supervisor, and he was called down. I asked if the detainees could file a formal complaint. He said there were complaint forms (which, in English and Spanish, direct one to the Department of Homeland Security´s Web site, where one must enter extensive personal information in order to file a "Trip Summary") but initially refused to hand them out or to give me his telephone number. "The Department of Homeland Security is understaffed, underfunded, and I have men here who are doing 14-hour days." He tried to intimidate me when I wrote down his name -- "So, you´re writing down our names. Well, we have more on you" -- and asked me questions about my address and my profession in front of the rest of the people detained. I pointed out a few of the families who had missed their flights and had been waiting seven hours. His voice barely controlled, his lip curled into a smirk, he explained slowly, condescendingly, that they need only go to the ticket counter at Jet Blue and reschedule so they could fly out in an hour. One mother responded with what he must have already known: Jet Blue goes to most destinations only once or twice a day and her whole family would have to sleep in the airport.

A large crowd began to gather. Everyone wanted to voice complaints. I explained to the supervisor that his guards had been making people afraid. He flipped through the green files, tossing the American passports to the front of the pile. "You should have gone first, before these people. American citizens first -- that´s how it should be." In the face of dozens of requests and questions, he turned and left.

The guards processed me then, ignoring the order of arrivals, if there ever had been one. They refused to distribute more complaint forms or call the supervisor back down at the request of Arab families. One officer threatened, "I´m talking politely to you now. If you don´t sit down, I won´t be talking politely to you anymore." One announced that because "the American girl" had gotten angry, the families would have to wait a few more hours. "The supervisor is not coming back."

I reassured my Homeland Security interrogator that I did not make any connections with Hezbollah or with anyone I knew to be associated with such an organization. I am not a member of any terrorist group. In fact, my visit to Syria had been so apolitical and touristy that I felt an embarrassing affinity with the pastel-shirted families waiting by the Air France baggage carousels in the distance, whom I knew I would eventually join.

As I walked out of the enclosure, some people thanked me, squeezing my arm and putting their hands on my shoulders. It was shocking that briefly standing up to someone overseeing an abuse of civil rights -- in JFK airport, in the United States, where we supposedly have laws and a democratic judicial system -- could be perceived as heroic. I had nothing to lose, but the other people being detained had everything to lose.

In the past five years I have worked for human rights and refugee advocacy organizations in Serbia, Russia and Croatia, including the International Rescue Committee and USAID. I have traveled to many different places, some supposedly repressive, and have never seen people treated with the kind of animosity that Homeland Security showed that night. In Syria, border control officers were stern but polite. At other borders there have been bureaucracies to contend with -- excruciating for both Americans and other foreign nationals. I´ve met Russian officials with dead, suspicious looks in their eyes and arms tired from stamping so many visas, but in America, the Homeland Security officials I encountered were very much alive -- like vultures waiting to eat.

966.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 04:41 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

The police state has arrived.

 

+1

 

Good article Ros, thnx. {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

967.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 12:01 pm

Musarraf resigns!

Poor Americans, they have lost a good friend (a partner in crime? )

What a ´democratic dictator!´ he was and a great example of American hypocracy and ´American democratic values´..

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7567451.stm

968.       teaschip
3870 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 03:18 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Musarraf resigns!

Poor Americans, they have lost a good friend (a partner in crime? )

What a ´democratic dictator!´ he was and a great example of American hypocracy and ´American democratic values´..

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7567451.stm

 

 He wasn´t that good of friend, he played both sides really.  Keep your friends close keep your enemies closer.

969.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 04:08 pm

The Israeli Genocide in Palestine

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine52.html

 

Long ago the IDF´s behavior amply evidenced that a Jewish army is as brutal, as bestialic, and as inhumane as any other army. Armies bring out the animal homo sapiens in pure form, and ahah! We find that homo sapiens "the soldier" is the same world-wide no matter what insignia is on his uniform. This self-serving prattle about "purity of arms" and "sacredness of life" deserves nothing but contempt by an objective observor, but may sound great to those who cling to the fading fiction that a genocide commited by the Jewish State can reflect differently on its perpetrators than any other genocide in history.

McCain

Deliberate killing of civilians outside a combat theater is a war crime. The definition of "war crime" does not turn on the technique of delivery of death. Both a rocket-armed drone and an explosive-armed human body are war crime techniques when used to foreseeably cause the death of helpless civilians outside a combat theater.
   If we operate on the premise that the whole world is a combat theater, we may expect the enemy to share that view. This drone program makes civilian women and children players, for better or worse, in today´s violence.  Inevitably the killing of helpless women and children villagers by drone rockets will stimulate reprisals against equally helpless US citizens working or traveling abroad.
    Sen. McCain´s POW torture reprisal scenario applies equally to civilian war crime scenarios. Deterrence is an equal opportunity rationale for murder of innocents. I fear Americans will reap what they sow.

970.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Aug 2008 Tue 04:43 pm

Young Palestinian dances his way to peace

 

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/01/15/young-palestinian-dances-his-way-to-peace/

971.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 20 Aug 2008 Wed 02:20 am

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972.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 20 Aug 2008 Wed 02:58 am

 

The Devil Came on Horseback: Bearing Witness to the Genocide in Darfur

by Brian Steidle (

 

This impassioned memoir is a cry of conscience and an informative, if politically and historically limited, analysis by a former U.S. Marine. Steidle began work in Sudan in 2004, as a military contractor with the two-year-old Joint Military Commission to monitor the fragile cease-fire agreement in Africa´s longest civil war between the Arab-dominated government of Sudan in the north and the rebel SPLA representing black African tribes of the south. As his career advances, Steidle is drawn into the province of Darfur, where government troops and government-backed Arab militias (known as Janjaweed or "the devil on a horse") operate against a 2003 uprising of black African tribes (overwhelmingly fellow Muslims) in a campaign whose virulence and destruction clearly amount to genocide. Steidle, who eventually became an unarmed American military observer for the African Union´s cease-fire coalition, composed this account with his sister, an activist and founder of Global Grassroots, in conjunction with their documentary film of the same name and a traveling photo exhibit and college lecture tour. Drawing heavily on notes and e-mails home, Steidle´s personal and fluent account effectively channels an idealistic, adventuresome young man´s growing frustration and horror in the face of ongoing crimes against humanity and international complacency.

973.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Aug 2008 Wed 04:49 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

The Devil Came on Horseback: Bearing Witness to the Genocide in Darfur

by Brian Steidle (

 

This impassioned memoir is a cry of conscience and an informative, if politically and historically limited, analysis by a former U.S. Marine. Steidle began work in Sudan in 2004, as a military contractor with the two-year-old Joint Military Commission to monitor the fragile cease-fire agreement in Africa´s longest civil war between the Arab-dominated government of Sudan in the north and the rebel SPLA representing black African tribes of the south. As his career advances, Steidle is drawn into the province of Darfur, where government troops and government-backed Arab militias (known as Janjaweed or "the devil on a horse") operate against a 2003 uprising of black African tribes (overwhelmingly fellow Muslims) in a campaign whose virulence and destruction clearly amount to genocide. Steidle, who eventually became an unarmed American military observer for the African Union´s cease-fire coalition, composed this account with his sister, an activist and founder of Global Grassroots, in conjunction with their documentary film of the same name and a traveling photo exhibit and college lecture tour. Drawing heavily on notes and e-mails home, Steidle´s personal and fluent account effectively channels an idealistic, adventuresome young man´s growing frustration and horror in the face of ongoing crimes against humanity and international complacency.

 

Thanks for posting this, quite interesting.

 

974.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Aug 2008 Thu 12:53 am

1. Russia is threatening to attack Poland after Poland signed anti-missle defense with the US

2. 153 people killed in Madrid plane crush...

 

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3. Russia cuts all military ties with NATO...

975.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Aug 2008 Thu 10:00 am

 

Quoting catwoman

1. Russia is threatening to attack Poland after Poland signed anti-missle defense with the US

2. 153 people killed in Madrid plane crush...

 

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3. Russia cuts all military ties with NATO...

 

1. No way! They´ll just "punish" by limiting our export there. And I´m not surprised at all  after what our stupid president said about Russia having always been Poland´s enemy. It´s not really about those missile interceptors, ever since that mockery of a diplomat - Kaczynski was elected he´s been doing his best to spoil our relationship with Russia, hoping that the US whose butt he licks will become our partner and best friend. Of course that´s not gonna happen - the US has always been working in their own business only, forgetting their allies when it was convenient.

 

2. That´s terrible, just think that an hour earlier the pilot asked for a technical check-up as he thought there was something wrong with the engine

 

3. Not surprising

 

I´d add:

 

4. 3 Poles killed and one wounded in Afghanistan. About time to leave that country!

976.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 08:27 am

In exchange for the missile interceptors the US will locate in Poland, they want to present us with...our own Statue of Liberty whose estimated cost will be $50mln. Yeah, that´s exactly what we need {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

977.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 12:04 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

In exchange for the missile interceptors the US will locate in Poland, they want to present us with...our own Statue of Liberty whose estimated cost will be $50mln. Yeah, that´s exactly what we need {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 Typically crass of them, or I should say " NOT teribly astute of them"

 

Forgive the spelling error, but the anagram jumped out at me. 

 

 

 

978.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 01:43 am

Award Willing Palestinian Journalist, Mohammed Omer, Detained, Strip-Searched, and Beaten by Israeli Occupation Security Forces, on his return to Illegally Occupied Gaza

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/07/01/p26628

http://www.wrmea.com/action

979.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 02:24 pm

Obama chooses Biden as running mate

Foreign Relations Committee chairman has globe-trotting credentials

 

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/timeline-of-bidens-life-and-career-20080823-40q3.html

980.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Aug 2008 Sat 07:30 pm

Hadith Al-Safinah or Safinah Tradition

981.       Trudy
7887 posts
 24 Aug 2008 Sun 02:08 pm

Despite the agreement on the possibility that Muslims and Copts could be mutually donors of organs, the chairman of the Egyptian doctors´ association, Muslim Hamdi el Sayed, decided to ban the donations waiting for the approval of an ad hoc law, currently under discussion in Parliament. The goal is to impede fictitious donations, actually made for money. The decision however sparked off a fierce polemic by the Copts who consider it a discriminatory measure. The news was reported by the Egyptian and Arab media after Copt lawyer Naguib Jibrael, chairman of the non-government organisation Egyptian union for human rights, threatened to take El Sayed in court. "The association of the doctors behaves as if it were an authority that has the right to issue fatwas (religious opinions), Al Azhar or the church, putting in discussion even the right to citizenship," the lawyer says. "Why the Muslims are not angry at this decision, as some Copts are?" replied the chairman of the doctors association who is also chairman of the healthcare committee at the lower house of Parliament and author of the bill currently under discussion in Parliament. The decision to block for the moment the donations between Muslims and Copts and vice versa, El Sayed claims, came from the need to impede the illegal trade of organs, but there is no objection to the donation if it is really free.

 

http://www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME03.@AM12205.html

982.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 24 Aug 2008 Sun 03:28 pm

983.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Aug 2008 Mon 01:38 pm

´Ping pong is coming home´London´s Mayor accepts the challenge to better Beijing.

 

===

The London Mayor strode on to the international stage yesterday, happily waved the Olympic flag, and told the watching world in no uncertain terms: "Ping pong is coming home".

...., Mr Johnson said Britain had invented table tennis over its dining tables before it became a Chinese national obsession.

To cheers from the assembled British officials, Mr Johnson declared that the Chinese "have excelled magnificently at ping pong. Ping pong was invented on the dining tables of England and it was called whiff whaff".

"There you have, I think, the essential difference between us and the rest of the world. Other nations such as the French looked at the dining table and saw the opportunity to have dinner. We looked at the dining table and saw an opportunity to play whiff whaff.

He continued: "That is why London is the sporting capital of the world. I say to the Chinese and I say to the world – ping pong is coming home."

.....

 

984.       WarTrain
325 posts
 25 Aug 2008 Mon 02:30 pm

Incidentally, Boris Johnson, the London Mayor, is the great grandchild of Ali Kemal (who was a journalist who fled in exile to Paris after receiving a death sentence for his newspaper articles, then became part of the Turkish government until soon after Ataturk became leader - whereupon he was killed by a mob of nationalists.

 

Boris Johnson´s surname is Kemal, but his mother changed their name to Johnson after the family came to the UK.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Kemal_Bey

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

 

985.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 04:10 am

A must see animated Iranian movie:  PERSEPOLIS, by Marjane Satrapi

 

Persepolis tells the story of Marjane, a young girl born to an aristocratic Iranian family during the reign of the Shah. As adolescence hits Marjane, the Islamic Revolution hits Iran. Guided by a sage and saucy grandmother, independently minded parents and the lyrics of 80s-era American punk, Marjane is the kind of girl that doesn’t take crap from anyone. This charming trait soon lands her in trouble in a country that frowns on dissent.

She is sent abroad, takes up with a group of anarchists, gets her heart broken, lives on the streets and eventually finds herself back in Iran, pretending to live the life of a nice Muslim girl. But as we all know, opinionated women never stay quiet for long.

From the moment the film began, I was transported into a mythical and exotic land where everything revolved around the world of a precocious girl. Instead of being waifish and weak, or cruel and conniving, this little girl was a bull. And she was funny. Her treacherous navigation into adulthood was incredibly real and riddled with pain. But all of her struggles made Marjane’s eventual redemption that much more sweet.

The film also allows an insider glimpse into the mysterious culture and politics of Iran. In case you haven’t noticed, the Republicans are ready to bomb the shit out of that country as soon as they have a good enough excuse. Most Americans don’t know anything about Iran or the people that live there, myself included. Persepolis at least helped me understand that, like America, not everyone in Iran is pumped about their leadership.

Politics and puberty aside, Persepolis is ultimately about trying to fit in. Marjane struggles to belong in a restrictive society, but when she goes abroad, she discovers it´s no fun living in a world where everyone thinks Muslims are cruel heathens. In the opening scene, Marjane puts on her head scarf in the airport bathroom, readying for her return to the Muslim world. She immediately garners dirty looks. In the next scene, Marjane rips the headscarf off and lights a cigarette. It’s clear that, whether heading to Iran or not, she never really want to wear it anyway.

986.       wadjas
22 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 01:09 pm

Roswitha  I actually read the graphic novel, i love it 

i will try to watch the movie though 

 

987.       Cacık
296 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 03:21 pm

I´d like to see this film - with English subs if possible - how?

988.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 04:16 pm

´Plot to kill Obama´ scare: four arrested

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/plot-to-kill-obama-scare/2008/08/26/1219516441367.html

 

German Bild Zeitung:

http://www.bild.de:80/BILD/news/politik/2008/08/26/anschlag-auf-obama-vereitelt/in-denver-vier-maenner-festgenommen.html

989.       WarTrain
325 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 04:32 pm

Have you ever noticed that herds of grazing animals all face the same way?

 

Images from Google Earth have confirmed that cattle tend to align their bodies in a north-south direction.

 

Wild deer also display this behaviour - a phenomenon that has apparently gone unnoticed by herdsmen and hunters for thousands of years.

 

In the Proceedings for the National Academy of Sciences, scientists say the Earth´s magnetic fields may influence the behaviour of these animals.

 

Or maybe they are all just turning their back on thehandsom?

990.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 05:14 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

Have you ever noticed that herds of grazing animals all face the same way?

 

Images from Google Earth have confirmed that cattle tend to align their bodies in a north-south direction.

 

Wild deer also display this behaviour - a phenomenon that has apparently gone unnoticed by herdsmen and hunters for thousands of years.

 

In the Proceedings for the National Academy of Sciences, scientists say the Earth´s magnetic fields may influence the behaviour of these animals.

 

Or maybe they are all just turning their back on thehandsom?

 

Right..{#lang_emotions_get_you}

A new rule:

-nobody is allowed to turn their back on thehandsom. Including animals!!!!

 

 

ps..what about this picture? eh?

The image “http://images.inmagine.com/img/photoaltozenshui/yaa025/yaa025000030.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

 

991.       lady in red
6947 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 07:01 pm

Quoting WarTrain 

 

Images from Google Earth have confirmed that cattle tend to align their bodies in a north-south direction.

 

 

Quoting thehandsom

Right..{#lang_emotions_get_you}

A new rule:

-nobody is allowed to turn their back on thehandsom. Including animals!!!!

 

 

ps..what about this picture? eh?

The image “http://images.inmagine.com/img/photoaltozenshui/yaa025/yaa025000030.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

 I must say I have never seen rows of cows in fields all facing in the same direction!  However....

 

 

992.       teaschip
3870 posts
 26 Aug 2008 Tue 07:16 pm

Watching a show last night "The Most Outrageous Moments..  I couldn´t believe when they showed Izmar Turkey.  The store owners were ticked at eachother and ended up with a whole street fight with people hitting eachother over  the heads with wooden cains. {#lang_emotions_scared}

993.       Trudy
7887 posts
 27 Aug 2008 Wed 09:54 am

A SAUDI court will next month hear a plea for divorce from an eight-year-old girl married off by her father to a man in his fifties, the Arabic-language daily Al-Watan reported today.


It said the girl´s mother had filed the divorce case with the court at Unayzah 220km north of Riyadh, and cited lawyer Abdullah Jtili as saying the father had arranged the marriage without telling the girl.


"She doesn´t know yet that she has been married,´´ added Jtili of the girl who is about to begin her fourth year at primary school.


Al-Watan said relatives of the girl had told a Saudi rights group of her plight and urged it to intervene to have the marriage annulled.


But the daily also reported that the husband had refused to renounce the marriage, saying that he had not done anything illegal.


Arranged marriages involving pre-adolescents are occasionally reported in the Arabian Peninsula, including in the ultra-conservative Saudi kingdom where the strict conservative Wahabi version of Sunni Islam holds sway and polygamy is common.


In Yemen in April, another girl aged eight was granted a divorce after her unemployed father forced her to marry a man of 28.


 


Source: www.new.com.au


 


********


Married at 8 years? Sorry, I can´t and don´t want to understand that people think that is ok.

994.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Aug 2008 Wed 02:31 pm

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080822/tod-france-transport-offbeat-7f81b96.html

 

This takes a bit of beating!  Blind drunk driver with a drunk passenger in France .................

995.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Aug 2008 Wed 02:36 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

Have you ever noticed that herds of grazing animals all face the same way?

 

Images from Google Earth have confirmed that cattle tend to align their bodies in a north-south direction.

 

Wild deer also display this behaviour - a phenomenon that has apparently gone unnoticed by herdsmen and hunters for thousands of years.

 

In the Proceedings for the National Academy of Sciences, scientists say the Earth´s magnetic fields may influence the behaviour of these animals.

 

Or maybe they are all just turning their back on thehandsom?

 

 I think this has gone unnoticed by millions of people for millions of years!  Have these idiots ever been to the country?

 

As a side point, could it be that thehandsoms behaviour is influenced by magentic north? 

996.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Aug 2008 Thu 05:10 pm

US Officers: We Executed Handcuffed Iraqi Captives

Posted Aug 27, 08 5:29 AM CDT in Crime & CourtsWorld 

(Newser) – Three US officers shot four blindfolded and handcuffed Iraqi detainees early last year and dumped their bodies in a canal, according to statements made to military investigators and obtained by the New York Times. The men are likely to face murder charges. Four others from the same platoon have been charged with murder conspiracy for agreeing to the killings, according to authorities.

The detainees were suspected Mahdi Army fighters captured in Baghdad. After being told to release the men due to insufficient evidence against them, the platoon´s first sergeant ordered that the prisoners be shot as revenge for the earlier deaths of two American soldiers, according to statements by two of the men who admitted to shooting the men in the head. "I´m ashamed of what I´ve done," said one of the shooters.

Source New York Times

 

Confessions from U.S. Soldiers in Iraq on the Brutal Treatment of Civilians.

Interviews with 50 Iraq war veterans reveal disturbing patterns of behavior by US troops in Iraq against innocent civilians -- brutal acts that often go unreported and almost always go unpunished.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/56761/

997.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Aug 2008 Thu 05:52 pm

Israel Expanding Settlements in East Jerusalem

 Israel has published tenders for the construction of 1,761 illegal housing units for Israeli settlers in occupied east Jerusalem alone, according to the Israeli rights group Peace Now.

The expansion plans come despite promises by the Israeli government at last year´s peace summit at Annapolis, Maryland (in the U.S.) to freeze all settlement growth.

"Once again this government has shown that its words and commitments are meaningless, and they have no intention of keeping to their word," says Peace Now.

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has stressed repeatedly that settlement construction or expansion in the West Bank is contrary to international law and Israel´s commitments under the ´road map´ peace process.

The road map was a series of peace-building measures proposed by U.S. President George W. Bush in 2002 and subsequently developed by the diplomatic Quartet of the European Union, the United Nations, Russia and the United States.

Ban Ki-moon further urged Israel to freeze all settlement activity and to dismantle outposts erected since March of 2001.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, normally a die-hard supporter of Israel, also expressed her concern about the settlement building during her last visit to Israel several months ago.

"It´s important to have an atmosphere of confidence and trust," Rice said following talks she held with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah. "The United States believes that the (settlement) actions and the announcements that are taking place are indeed having a negative effect on the atmosphere for negotiation."

http://www.alternet.org/rights/96598/israel_expanding_settlements_in_east_jerusalem

998.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 29 Aug 2008 Fri 01:26 am

 

Quoting Trudy

A SAUDI court will next month hear a plea for divorce from an eight-year-old girl married off by her father to a man in his fifties, the Arabic-language daily Al-Watan reported today.

It said the girl´s mother had filed the divorce case with the court at Unayzah 220km north of Riyadh, and cited lawyer Abdullah Jtili as saying the father had arranged the marriage without telling the girl.

"She doesn´t know yet that she has been married,´´ added Jtili of the girl who is about to begin her fourth year at primary school.

Al-Watan said relatives of the girl had told a Saudi rights group of her plight and urged it to intervene to have the marriage annulled.

But the daily also reported that the husband had refused to renounce the marriage, saying that he had not done anything illegal.

Arranged marriages involving pre-adolescents are occasionally reported in the Arabian Peninsula, including in the ultra-conservative Saudi kingdom where the strict conservative Wahabi version of Sunni Islam holds sway and polygamy is common.

In Yemen in April, another girl aged eight was granted a divorce after her unemployed father forced her to marry a man of 28.

 

Source: www.new.com.au

 

********

Married at 8 years? Sorry, I can´t and don´t want to understand that people think that is ok.

 

Sorry, Trudy, this is not true! Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda). Nothing of such takes place in Middle East. Women rights are respected in all Islamic countries, because the Prophet told so, thats why He waited for Aisha for 3 years until she reached her puberty, bless his heart. You see he took care of all those widows by marrying them off to himself. You don´t see how his heart was kind and beautiful towards those poor widowed women who lost their husbands in the wars for the goal to unite nations under one religion, the religion of peace.

 

999.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Aug 2008 Fri 02:13 am

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda).

 Why should Trudy need to ask any of them about the media´s lies .  You can vouch for that.  They do it all the time in China.  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

1000.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 29 Aug 2008 Fri 09:29 pm

Ennio Morricone

 

 Le Vent Le Cri

1001.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 01:34 am

The Star Students of the Islamic Republic

Forget Harvard—one of the world´s best undergraduate colleges is in Iran. 

SPECIAL REPORT: THE EDUCATION RACE  


Molavi has reported from Iran for The Washington Post and Reuters, and is the author of ‘The Soul of Iran

1002.       CANLI
5084 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 02:56 am

Ros,pls use the insert/edit link button instead of posting the URL

İts making the page wider than norms

İm going to delete it and add the link to it here

Sry,teas,but will have to delete yours too for quoting it

 

What a McCain Victory Could Mean: No Money for Health Care and the End of Our Volunteer Army

1003.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 04:16 am

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

Sorry, Trudy, this is not true! Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda). Nothing of such takes place in Middle East. Women rights are respected in all Islamic countries, because the Prophet told so, thats why He waited for Aisha for 3 years until she reached her puberty, bless his heart. You see he took care of all those widows by marrying them off to himself. You don´t see how his heart was kind and beautiful towards those poor widowed women who lost their husbands in the wars for the goal to unite nations under one religion, the religion of peace.

 

 I don´t remember entering this particular debate so , please don´t quote me out of context.      Pie In Face 

1004.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 05:53 am

Mecca the Blessed, Medina the Radiant by Ali Kazuyoshi Nomachi: Book Cover
  •  
    • photographs of the Muslim holy cities Mecca and Medina, taken by a Japanese convert, Ali Kazuyoshi Nomachi, are something new for most Westerners, and perhaps even for many Muslims. Non-Muslims are never allowed into Mecca, and it is almost unheard-of for religious and government leaders to allow such pictures to be taken. Most of these images were shot during the holy month of Ramadan, when many faithful are in Mecca and Medina on pilgrimage.

      Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr, professor of Islamic studies at George Washington University, has contributed an essay explaining the history and significance of the two cities. "Mecca and its twin city Medina flourish as the heart and sacred Center of the Islamic universe and will continue to do so as long as there are men and women who accept the truth of Lailaha illa´Llah and Muhammadun rasul Allah," he writes.

      Nomachi has worked for National Geographic and Life, and his pictures have the information-packed clarity one might expect. There are fascinating images: literally hundreds of thousands of white-robed believers circling the Ka´bah, Mecca´s sacred center; men ritually shaving one another´s heads; tired families fasting; small children praying. Nomachi´s pictures are oddly cool, but they convey the all-encompassing nature of the faith. Mecca the Blessed, Medina the Radiant will be especially thrilling to those Muslims still planning their pilgrimage.

1005.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 06:24 am

,6 m found colossal statues. along with the colossuses of Memnon of XVIII Dynasty 

A team of European and Egyptian archaeologists announced Saturday that there did a series of discoveries that will change the perception of the famous place of the colossuses of Memnon, in Luxor, in south of Egypt.

Coinciding with the visit to the ancient Tebas of the Egyptian minister of Culture, Faruk Hosni, the archaeologists informed about the find of a 3,62 meters giant statue of the queen Tiya, the wife of the Pharaoh of XVIII Dynasty Amenofis III, that governed from 1417 to 1379 before Christ, more two sphinxes representing the real couple and ten statues in black Sejmet granite, the divinity with head of lion.

 

1006.       Trudy
7887 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 09:33 am

A very gruesome story, not for the faint hearted!

 

A US court in Dayton, Ohio, has convicted a mother of murdering her one-month-old daughter by burning her to death in a microwave oven.

China Arnold, 28, showed no emotion when the jury announced its guilty verdict, only lowering her head. The prosecution said that Arnold had killed her daughter, Paris Talley, in 2005 after a fight with her boyfriend. The jury will reassemble next Tuesday to decide if Arnold, convicted of aggravated murder, should face death. Officials investigating the case said Paris Talley had suffered high-heat internal burns but had no external marks. Prosecutors said that the baby’s DNA had been found inside the microwave in Arnold’s apartment. Arnold’s cellmate told the court that she had confessed to putting her daughter in the microwave and switching it on, because she was afraid that her boyfriend would leave her if he discovered that he was not the baby’s father. The defence team said that there was evidence that somebody else was responsible for Paris Talley’s death. An eight-year-old boy told the court he had seen another boy walk into the kitchen of a nearby apartment, heard the microwave being switched on and had later seen the burned baby in the oven. However, the boy’s mother said they lived some distance away and that they were not in Arnold’s apartment complex when Paris Talley died.

 

Source: http://jaggerkieth.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/microwave-baby-killer-convicted/ 

 

********

I´m against death penalty but in cases like this ..... {#lang_emotions_puking}

1007.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 12:29 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 I don´t remember entering this particular debate.  {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

Exactly right!  They want to make money and they want to manipulate the masses.

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_33381

--------------------

 

That´s what you said, I am just quoting you.

 

And don´t insult me with this emoticon. {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1008.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 03:45 pm

Incredible:

 

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=GPWJc8sLhjo

1009.       WarTrain
325 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 04:41 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

Sorry, Trudy, this is not true! Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda). Nothing of such takes place in Middle East. Women rights are respected in all Islamic countries, because the Prophet told so, thats why He waited for Aisha for 3 years until she reached her puberty, bless his heart. You see he took care of all those widows by marrying them off to himself. You don´t see how his heart was kind and beautiful towards those poor widowed women who lost their husbands in the wars for the goal to unite nations under one religion, the religion of peace.

 

Ermm maybe I am a bit dim today but.... please tell me your post is a joke...right? 

 

Yes?

1010.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 05:03 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

Ermm maybe I am a bit dim today but.... please tell me your post is a joke...right? 

 

Yes?

 

It depends on your position of viewpoints.

- If you are a muslim, it is an undisputable truth: Media lies and all women in Islamic countries are purely happy enjoying their full rights.

- If you are a non-muslim (or infidel, dirty kaffir) it is a little sophisticated sarcasm

1011.       WarTrain
325 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 05:03 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

 it is a little sophisticated sarcasm

 

 

Are you a diplomat?

1012.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 05:55 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

 

Are you a diplomat?

 

I wish I were, but so far I fail, I fail in diplomatic relationships with Egypt (including all ME), Turkey and many PeaceOrientedTrains throughout the Western World.

1013.       WarTrain
325 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 06:09 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

I wish I were, but so far I fail, I fail in diplomatic relationships with Egypt (including all ME), Turkey and many PeaceOrientedTrains throughout the Western World.

 

I love your posts (they seem so familiar ), therefore diplomatic relations with WarOrientedTrains throughout the Western World would appear to be amicable today

1014.       Bed Train
11 posts
 30 Aug 2008 Sat 07:01 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

I love your posts (they seem so familiar ), therefore diplomatic relations with WarOrientedTrains throughout the Western World would appear to be amicable today

 

 BedOrientedTrains approve!

1015.       Blufftrain
28 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 03:47 am

 

Quoting Bed Train

 BedOrientedTrains approve!

 

 BluffOrientedTrains join the track!!!!

1016.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 03:36 pm

Pakistani lawmaker defends honor killings

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: A Pakistani lawmaker defended a decision by southwestern tribesmen to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands, telling stunned members of Parliament this week to spare him their outrage.

"These are centuries-old traditions and I will continue to defend them," Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, said Saturday. "Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."

The women, three of whom were teenagers, were first shot and then thrown into a ditch.

They were still breathing as their bodies were covered with rocks and mud, according media reports and human rights activists, who said their only "crime" was that they wished to marry men of their own choosing

Zehri told a packed and flabbergasted Parliament on Friday that Baluch tribal traditions helped stop obscenity and then asked fellow lawmakers not to make a big fuss about it.

Many stood up in protest, saying the executions were "barbaric" and demanding that discussions continue Monday. But a handful said it was an internal matter of the deeply conservative province.

"I was shocked," said lawmaker Nilofar Bakhtiar, who pushed for legislation calling for perpetrators of so-called honor killings to be punished when she served as minister of women´s affairs under the last government.

"I feel that we´ve gone back to the starting point again," she said. "It´s really sad for me."

The incident allegedly occurred one month ago in Baba Kot, a remote village in Jafferabad district, after the women decided to defy tribal elders and arrange marriages in a civil court, according to the Asian Human Rights Commission.

They were said to have been abducted at gunpoint by six men, forced into a vehicle and taken to a remote field, where they were beaten, shot and then buried alive, it said, accusing local authorities of trying to hush up the killings.

One of perpetrators was allegedly related to a top provincial official, it said.

Accounts about the killings have varied, largely because police in the tribal region have been uncooperative. Activists and lawmakers said a more thorough investigation needed to be carried out.

The Asian Human Rights Commission, however, said the two older women may have been related to some of the teenage girls and were apparently murdered because they were sympathetic to their wishes.

___

Associated Press reporter Munir Ahmad contributed to this report.

 

Here is the link as requested by mod Lady in Red

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/30/asia/AS-Pakistan-Honor-Killings.php

1017.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 04:48 pm

Funny animation:

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs13/f/2007/077/2/e/Animator_vs__Animation_by_alanbecker.swf 

 

1018.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 07:05 pm

 

 

 Brilliant    Thanks Ros

1019.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 08:01 pm

 

Quoting Bed Train

 BedOrientedTrains approve!

 

 That´s BOTs to everyone else

1020.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 08:18 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

Exactly right!  They want to make money and they want to manipulate the masses.

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_33381

--------------------

 

That´s what you said, I am just quoting you.

 

And don´t insult me with this emoticon. {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 But you quoted me out of context.  I didn´t say it in that particular debate.

 

My mistake about the {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}.   I´ve altered my original post

1021.       Bed Train
11 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 08:23 pm

 

Quoting Blufftrain

 BluffOrientedTrains join the track!!!!

 

 Are you bluffing???{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1022.       Blufftrain
28 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 09:19 pm

 

Quoting Bed Train

 Are you bluffing???{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 kim?ben???Yok,hayir..........{#lang_emotions_angel}{#lang_emotions_wink}

1023.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 10:17 pm

I don´t know about what caught my eye, rather I would like to catch someones eye ......................................................  with my fist {#lang_emotions_get_you}  But I need some training first {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1024.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Aug 2008 Sun 10:21 pm

Of course there´s always room for a few Model Trains

1025.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 05:43 pm

Holland Believes Iran to Be Attacked Soon

01


Holland´s military intelligence service (AIVD) recently suspended an intelligence operation aimed at infiltrating and sabotaging the Iranian weapon manufacturing industry following estimates that the United States plans to attack the Islamic republic in the coming weeks, according to a report by Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf, quoted by media worldwide Monday.
 
According to the report, the operation, deemed successful, was recently halted due to preparations for a US airstrike in Iran. The Dutch believe that the bombed targets will include the locations of their espionage operation.
 
Knowledgeable sources told the Dutch newspaper that a senior agent was recently removed from the country "due to the belief that the US is about to make a decision within weeks on a strike in Iran using unmanned aircraft."
 
According to the report, information gleaned from the AIVD´s operation in Iran has provided several of the targets that are to be attacked in the strike, including "parts for missiles and launching equipment." "Information from the AIVD operation has been shared in recent years with the CIA," the report said.
 
On Saturday, Iran´s Deputy Chief of Staff General Masoud Jazayeri warned that should the United States or Israel attack Iran, it would be the start of another World War.
 
On Friday, Israeli daily Ma´ariv reported that Israel had made a strategic decision to deny Iran military nuclear capability and would not hesitate "to take whatever means necessary" to prevent Teheran from achieving its nuclear goals.
 
According to the report, whether the United States and Western countries succeed in thwarting the Islamic Republic´s nuclear program diplomatically, through sanctions, or whether a US strike on Iran is eventually decided upon, Tel Aviv has begun preparing for a separate, independent military strike.
  AL MANAR news

1026.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 06:57 pm

Italy: From drawing room to ad showroom: the changing face of St Mark´s Square



http://www.guardian.co.uk:80/world/2008/sep/01/italy.architecture

1027.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 07:58 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

Holland´s military intelligence service (AIVD)
Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf

 

That ´intelligence´ in AIVD has nothing to do with intelligent or being smart enough to spying. {#lang_emotions_lol} They acted so many times so wrong! BTW, the AIVD is not the militairy intelligence service, it´s the civilian one - a department of the ministry of Home Affairs, not of the ministry of Defence.

 

De Telegraaf is the worst tabloid here in the Netherlands. Everything they publish you can take with a grain of salt! Better not a grain but a kilo.... lol

1028.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 10:15 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

That ´intelligence´ in AIVD has nothing to do with intelligent or being smart enough to spying. {#lang_emotions_lol} They acted so many times so wrong! BTW, the AIVD is not the militairy intelligence service, it´s the civilian one - a department of the ministry of Home Affairs, not of the ministry of Defence.

 

De Telegraaf is the worst tabloid here in the Netherlands. Everything they publish you can take with a grain of salt! Better not a grain but a kilo.... lol

 

Has Ros been misinforming us all this time? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

I wonder what she has got to say about this!!!

1029.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 10:26 pm

THE GREAT BRITISH DUCK RACE ALONG THE RIVER THAMES

250,000 rubber ducks are released on the Thames at Hampton Court at the start of the Great British Duck Race,The largest charity duck race in the world. The race took place on Sunday, 31st August 2008 on the River Thames, near Hampton Court, Surrey. Members of the public ïadopted a (rubber) duckÍ on behalf of a number of charities, raced it down the Thames, and had a chance of winning a great prize! The race is an annual event that currently takes place in 18 countries around the world.

 

 

Panda Birthday

 

August 29, 2008 (Xinhua) -- Giant Panda Wei Wei and Xi Wang (or Hope) have their meals in the Wuhan Zoo in Wuhan, capital of central China´s Hubei Province, August 29, 2008. The zoo keepers marked 3rd birthday for Wei Wei in the zoo on Friday.

 

1030.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 10:36 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Has Ros been misinforming us all this time? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

I wonder what she has got to say about this!!!

 

I don´t think that, but bear in mind the tabloid quality of the Dutch newspaper. It´s rubbish, they change facts many times until they like the outcome.

1031.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 11:01 pm

Angola: Militant Christians decapitate Muslim girl -- no, wait...

Actually, oddly enough, it was jihadists who decapitated a Christian girl.

An undated but apparently recent item from the Barnabas Fund, "Angola - Girl Decapitated In Attack By Muslim Extremists":

Muslim extremists recently attacked the Christian community in the town of Andulo. In an horrific incident, the school-age daughter of a deacon at one of the churches was decapitated. Forty believers were assaulted or tortured, and one of them needed 20 stitches in his head. The mob burned three church buildings. They also went to believers’ houses to intimidate them and damaged or destroyed items of property. Stones were thrown at the headquarters of a local Christian project, causing some damage.

Commenting to Barnabas Fund, an Angolan Christian leader said that the local police were unable to stop the attack and fled the scene, and the government seems reluctant to take action against Muslims, perhaps because it believes that Muslim aid is valuable to the nation. The community in Andulo is confused and disturbed, not least because they had believed what the Muslims told them: that Islam is a peaceful religion and that Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters, worshipping the same God....

 

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022494.php

1032.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 11:13 pm

Who is to blame for the Russian Gerogian conflict?

 

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2042

1033.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 11:23 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

Who is to blame for the Russian Gerogian conflict?

 

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2042

Thehandsome?

 

1034.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 11:32 pm

Trudy makes interesting points that help to evaluate this startling account in this Dutch Newspaper. I would add to her comment, that the story has not been picked up by the major news media in the USA. Perhaps they share her opinion of De Teleegraf.

1035.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Sep 2008 Mon 11:32 pm

Iranian Award-winning film ’The Song of Sparrows’ will premiere in 13 countries worldwide.
France, US, Germany, Mexico, Belgium, Greece, Norway, South Korea, Mexico and Portugal are among the 13 countries to screen Majid Majidi’s movie in the upcoming months, Mehr News Agency said.
Fortissimo Films, the Netherlands-based film production and distribution company, has clinched global rights to the film.
’The Song of Sparrows’ earned Reza Naji the Silver Bear for best actor at the 58th Berlin International Film Festival (Berlinale).
Prior to its win at the Berlinale, the film also took the best director, editing, original score and makeup prizes at the 26th Fajr International Film Festival.
The film’s Tehran premier is scheduled for October 1 concurrent with Eid al-Fitr which marks the end of the holy fasting month of Ramadan.
It also participated in numerous international film festivals, including at the 43rd Karlovy Vary International Film Festival in the Czech Republic.
’The Song of the Sparrows’ is the story of Karim, who enjoys his work as ostrich breeder at a ranch in Shahriyar, west of Tehran. He is a loving husband and father of three who is laid off from work because one of the birds runs away into the hills.
He commutes to the city and his efforts to help his family lead to succession of problems.

 

http://www.iran-daily.com/1387/3211/html/art.htm

1036.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 12:16 am

Afghan child mortality linked to uneducated mothers


HONG KONG (Reuters) -- High child mortality rates in conservative Afghanistan are linked not just to war but to mothers being uneducated and having little or no say when their children need medical help, a study has found.


Child mortality rates in Afghanistan are among the highest in the world, and one out of every five Afghan children (or 191 out of every 1,000 live births) will not survive beyond age five.

The study of 2,474 children from 1,327 households in Kabul province found that diarrhea (32.5 percent), acute respiratory infection (41 percent), emaciation (12.4 percent) and stuntedness (39.9 percent) were among the most common health problems, said the article published in the latest issue of BioMed Central Public Health.

""As in other countries, the primary caregivers of small children in Afghanistan are their mothers; however, in this country, mothers are subject to a number of restrictions in the decision-making process regarding child healthcare,"" said the article published by a team of Afghan and Japanese researchers.

The researchers said they interviewed mothers of the children and found the problems correlated most closely with mothers not having any autonomy (79.1 percent) and education (71.7 percent).

Up to 18.3 percent of the mothers also delivered their first child before they were 16, which meant they were married when they were still children, the researchers wrote.

A shortage of basic material needs was also observed in 59.1 percent of the households.

The researchers defined a lack of maternal autonomy to mean mothers requiring permission from the head of the household to bring a child to the doctor, or if she required another person - usually a male relative - to accompany her to a clinic with the child.

Afghanistan is deeply conservative and women´s movements are still restricted in many parts of the country.

The researchers defined a lack of education as not having attended school for at least a year.

""The poor economic and educational status of these women, and their overall immaturity caused by a lack of learning opportunities may have resulted in difficulties in preventing illness in their children,"" they wrote.

They called for change in Afghan society. Families needed to be educated and the government must play its part, they said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSHKG9685520080830?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews

1037.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 12:25 am

The Lure of Satan


Darwinism: A Face of Racism


 


http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1216208030411&pagename=Zone-English-Discover_Islam%2FDIELayout

1038.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 12:40 am

The forbidden fruit:

 

http://article.wn.com/view/2008/08/23/Forbidden_fruit/

1039.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 02:50 am

Gustav strikes Cuban mainland

http://article.wn.com/view/2008/08/31/Gustav_strikes_Cuban_mainland/

http://article.wn.com/view/2008/09/01/Hurricane_Gustav_tops_levees_but_no_breaches_yet_8/?section=TopStoriesWorldwide&template=worldnews%2Findex.txt

1040.       WarTrain
325 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 03:12 pm

Mother leaves her 3 children alone in the house and goes away on honeymoon to Turkey! 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7593399.stm

 

1041.       Trudy
7887 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 03:34 pm

Doc: Orgasm cures knee pain


 


A woman was told by a reflexologist her aching knees would get better if he gave her an orgasm with a vibrating massager, a jury heard yesterday. Stuart Hill, 57, allegedly said he was using a Chinese “hormone therapy” technique, which was banned in Britain. It is claimed he then placed the device on intimate spots and licked the woman’s breasts. Prosecutor Amanda Rippon told Durham Crown Court: “He told her she needed to be orgasmic. She began to think this was legitimate therapy. “She began to feel better and told her husband the defendant was a miracle worker. He was just taking advantage.” Hill, of Brandon, Co Durham, denies nine sex assault and indecency charges. Case continues.  



Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1635692.ece


****


I wonder what other ´therapies´ this guy has.... lol lol

1042.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 04:23 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

“He told her she needed to be orgasmic. She began to think this was legitimate therapy. "

 

 I wonder what the therapy is for idiocy.

1043.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 04:48 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

Mother leaves her 3 children alone in the house and goes away on honeymoon to Turkey! 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7593399.stm

 

 HUMMM...apparently, headscarves do not make you a better mother....or smarter!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1044.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Sep 2008 Wed 10:01 am

http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/ripleys-odditorium.aspx

 

 

......mmmmmm one of our infamous members????

1045.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Sep 2008 Wed 05:09 pm

 
Honest ad for nanny: My kids are a pain

 

It was an unusually honest ad for a live-in nanny, a 1,000-word tome beginning, "My kids are a pain." But it worked, attracting a brave soul who´s never been a nanny before. "If you cannot multitask, or communicate without being passive aggressive, don´t even bother replying," Rebecca Land Soodak, a mother of four on Manhattan´s Upper East Side, wrote Aug. 19 in her advertisement on Craigslist. "I can be a tad difficult to work for. I´m loud, pushy and while I used to think we paid well, I am no longer sure." This being the age of instant communications, the ad took on a life of its own, making the rounds of parenting blogs and e-mail inboxes and inspiring an article in Thursday´s New York Times. Soodak, a 40-year-old painter whose husband owns a wine store, eventually hired Christina Wynn, a 25-year-old University of Virginia graduate, to take care of Rubin, 12; Ellis, 9; and Shay and Cassie, both 6. "I made a commitment to stay in the job for at least a year," Wynn told the Times. "I met the oldest child, but not the others, which my mother said was crazy -- to accept the job without meeting all the kids.

 

Source: http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=151615&bolum=134

1046.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 03 Sep 2008 Wed 09:15 pm

Palestinian couple locks disabled kids for 40 years in urine-stained rooms

A Palestinian couple locked their disabled kids in two urine-stained rooms for forty years because they were afraid the children would ruin the marriage prospects of a healthy child, police has revealed.

The case has highlighted the shame felt by families who have children with disabilities in Palestinian society “made worse because of poor services and the practice of first-cousin marriages in Arab communities.

“This is sad, shameful and awful,” The Scotsman quoted Imad Abumohr, a disabled rights activist, as saying.

Few people in the rural town of Beit Awwa knew of Basam Musalmeh, 38, and his sister Nawal, 42 were kept in two crumbling concrete rooms that stank of sweat and urine behind their family’s house.

Police found them during a raid on Tuesday night, while searching for Hamas loyalists and criminals in the village.

Palestinian police commander Samih Saify said that during the search police heard unusual noises and went to investigate. He said they found Basam Musalemeh naked, while Nawal wore a flimsy nightdress.

Their father was arrested, although it was not clear if he was detained for keeping his children locked up or because of his suspected loyalty to militant group Hamas.

 

http://www.newspostonline.com/world-news/palestinian-couple-locks-disabled-kids-for-40-years-in-urine-stained-rooms-200808313698

1047.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Sep 2008 Wed 10:49 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Ziyi

 

Doing a bit of surfing, as you do, and came across this!  So how do you explain yourself Mr Ziyi??   {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1048.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 04 Sep 2008 Thu 01:06 am

 

Quoting libralady

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Ziyi

 

Doing a bit of surfing, as you do, and came across this!  So how do you explain yourself Mr Ziyi??   {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 I fell into that trap a few weeks ago LL.  The actress is his idol and so he has used her name as a nick

1049.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Sep 2008 Thu 06:17 am

Making Darbuka

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoGfkj56ARo

1050.       libralady
5152 posts
 04 Sep 2008 Thu 03:10 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 I fell into that trap a few weeks ago LL.  The actress is his idol and so he has used her name as a nick

 

 And if you believe that! {#lang_emotions_lol} 

1051.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Sep 2008 Thu 03:14 pm

NATO stages commando raid inside Pakistan, Islamabad says

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/03/asia/attack.php

1052.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Sep 2008 Thu 03:19 pm

Huge ice sheet breaks loose in Canadian arctic.


´Shocking event´ another sign of warming in polar frontier, say scientists

1053.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Sep 2008 Thu 03:45 pm

In Iraq, Muslims hope for calm during Ramadan

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iraq3-2008sep03,0,7189592.story

1054.       CANLI
5084 posts
 05 Sep 2008 Fri 12:45 am

İ was arranging the channels on my satellite today when i found a channel called Kurdistan TV

And as i understood,its planning to open new studio based in Germany

İt started broadcasting at 2006 as it said

 

İm just wondering,isnt  North İraq STİLL North İraq even its occupied by the invaders ?!

Or it has been divided already ?!

Yes,i hated Saddam,he was least i can say bad,but doesnt this make you wonder,if even Saddam was better than this?! 

Where is İraq,and where will it going to be ?!

1055.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Sep 2008 Fri 01:00 am

 

Quoting CANLI

İ was arranging the channels on my satellite today when i found a channel called Kurdistan TV

And as i understood,its planning to open new studio based in Germany

İt started broadcasting at 2006 as it said

 

İm just wondering,isnt North İraq STİLL North İraq even its occupied by the invaders ?!

Or it has been divided already ?!

Yes,i hated Saddam,he was least i can say bad,but doesnt this make you wonder,if even Saddam was better than this?!

Where is İraq,and where will it going to be ?!

 

 

Saddam was angelic compared to these blood suckers, but there won`t be peace in the me as long as there is oil. Wait another 50 years...

1056.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 05 Sep 2008 Fri 02:18 am

 

Quoting libralady

 And if you believe that! {#lang_emotions_lol} 

 

 OK,  so ZZ is really an old friend  . . . don´t burst her bubble please .

1057.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Sep 2008 Fri 05:25 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

but there won`t be peace in the me as long as there is oil. Wait another 50 years...

 

 And also weapon trade...

1058.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 Sep 2008 Sat 05:00 pm

Haifaa Mansour
 

Haifaa Mansour has been on the frontline of tackling taboo issues in Saudi Arabia.
It is tough to be a filmmaker in Saudi Arabia where many conservative Muslims shun movies as sinful. To be a female director is an even greater challenge.

Mansour attributes her strength of character to being one of a dozen children, and daughter of Abdul Rahman Al-Mansour, the the famous Saudi poet. She was the television host of More Than a Woman on the popular Lebanese channel, LBC, where she tackled sensitive issues and problems that affected Arab women.

For a Saudi to openly discuss topics such as the participation of women in politics, homosexuality, and mistreatment of women in the Saudi courts, was pushing the boundaries of debate well beyond what people in the region were used to.

Mansour has always been driven to taking on these issues as a filmmaker, a profession that was alien to most Saudis, especially as the kingdom does not have movie theatres and where many staunch conservatives shun bringing taboo subjects into the open.

The young movie director stirred up controversy with her films such as Women Without Shadows, Who? and The Bitter Journey.

Mansour raised even more eyebrows when she married an American diplomat in May 2007.

Even as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia looks to liberalise and modernise, Haifaa Mansour is always one step ahead in breaking new ground.

Al  Jazeera

1059.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Sep 2008 Sat 07:45 pm

"Mr 10 %" is the president

Bhutto´s widower wins presidency

 

Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, has won a sweeping victory in Pakistan´s presidential election.

The election was called after Pervez Musharraf resigned rather than risk being impeached

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7600917.stm

1060.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Sep 2008 Mon 06:38 am

 

Are You Smart Enough to Be German?

http://www1.spiegel.de/active/quiztool/fcgi/quiztool.fcgi?id=33093&a=&aa=4

 

Muslim girls in the German city of Mannheim. 

1061.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Sep 2008 Mon 06:57 am

ROAD TO WAR IN GEORGIA

The Chronicle of a Caucasian Tragedy

 

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,574812,00.html

1062.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 08 Sep 2008 Mon 03:44 pm

Local BBC News item:  A man has been arrested for theft in Preston Train Station (NW England).  He crept onto an empty train this morning and cooked himself breakfast in the Buffet Car.

 

Perhaps he´s the Fat Controller Libra Lady was asking about last week

1063.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 08 Sep 2008 Mon 11:25 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyYvOz6O6Dw

 

Is Youtube still banned in Turkey?

1064.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 08 Sep 2008 Mon 11:50 pm

Egypt voices: Sexual harassment

Seven Egyptian women talk about their experience of sexual harassment on the streets of Cairo. It is an increasingly common problem, with a recent survey suggesting more than four out of five women have been sexually harassed, while nearly two-thirds of men admitted assaulting women.

 

A very interesting article, worthy reading!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7593765.stm

1065.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 12:05 am

No offence Canlı, but werent you saying that you can wear what you want in Egypt.

 

This is sad really, hope men there will learn some manners soon and see woman the way they are supposed to be seen.

1066.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 01:28 am

 

 Have you read the article D_K ?

Have you seen the pictures of the women who are talking ?

Are all of them not wearing hijab,or some wear and some dont ?

What this got to do with what they wear ?!

 

İ didnt say Egypt is Heaven,women get harassed at USA,UK,France,Germany,Egypt...ect,would this imply they are not free to wear whatever they want ?

Or do you suggest they get harassed there also for what they wear ?!

The harassement those women meant is not just the sexual gestures,but also the strange men attempts to talk with them ,to get their attention so they pick them up ´as that woman expression´

1067.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 02:06 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 Have you read the article D_K ?

 

 Yes I did. That is why I was so surprised. Because I recall you saying you are free to wear what you want, and I think it was Saskia, saying she was being harrassed, you said that harrassment wasnt really common. But apparantly it is.

 

Anyway you are right when it comes to clothing, it really doesnt change a thing. I forgot about that when I made that comment Just, you´re ideas on harrassment in Egypt came to my mind.

 

And you seemed pretty offended with all your ´?!´, though I didnt mean it that much of an attack as you responded it too

 

And though the Netherlands wasnt in your list, I´ve never been harrassed my entire life in the Netherlands. But I have been in Turkey.

1068.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 02:34 am

I´ve been to quite a few European cities including Istanbul and never had a problem, except in Rome.  My teenage daughter and I were walking through a crowded market place and three young "Rocco" look-i-likies passed us.  They never made eye contact but as they passed the nearest one put his hand straight up my leg and felt my bottom!!  What a cheek!! (pardon the pun).  My daughter also got a few gestures aimed at her from time to time.

1069.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 02:34 am

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 Yes I did. That is why I was so surprised. Because I recall you saying you are free to wear what you want, and I think it was Saskia, saying she was being harrassed, you said that harrassment wasnt really common. But apparantly it is.

 

Anyway you are right when it comes to clothing, it really doesnt change a thing. I forgot about that when I made that comment Just, you´re ideas on harrassment in Egypt came to my mind.

 

And you seemed pretty offended with all your ´?!´, though I didnt mean it that much of an attack as you responded it too

 

And though the Netherlands wasnt in your list, I´ve never been harrassed my entire life in the Netherlands. But I have been in Turkey.

 

 Well,i also remember Saskia´s comments,she said they tried to touch her as i remember.

İ wear a hijab,and i also can say i havent been harrassed that way in Egypt,my cousin for example doesnt wear hijab and also she hasnt been harrassed this way in Egypt.

Those women,some of them wear hijab,and some dont,and they said they have been harrassed.

So would this say,they have been harrassed because of what they wear,and we ´me and my cousin weren´t because of what we are wearing ?!

 

Actually,i dont quite understand what you mean exactly by harassment?!

İ mean when you are walking in the street and a man calls you ´hey you pretty !´ is that harassment ?

Or when they try to get close  to you is it harassment ?

 

We have the first one,hijab or no hijab,all same,but the second one,i wouldnt say that we face/see/hear about normally,of course its also there but not common,and sure not because what you wear !

 

İm not offended D_K,not the way you think anyway,im sorry if you got that feeling,my fault {#lang_emotions_flowers}

İts just seems that Egypt news is all what catch ZZ eye´s or İslam of course.

 

Anyway,i knew im important to ZZ

1070.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 11:14 am

Dear Canlı,

 

 If you and a few friends used the media to make your point, that you aren´t harrassed, perhaps people would believe you more .  But I somehow don´t think ZZ would find it quite so newsworthy .

1071.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 11:29 am

You are right, it wouldn´t be newsworthy, just simply because not harassing and respecting women is something very normal and there would be nothing to blow the trumpet about.

As for Canli, she would offer her heart taken out in order to protect her country´s image or protect her religion. It is called patriotism worshipped in many countries including Turkey. So, statements of people like Canli is not trustworthy.

 

Quoting peacetrain

Dear Canlı,

 

If you and a few friends used the media to make your point, that you aren´t harrassed, perhaps people would believe you more . But I somehow don´t think ZZ would find it quite so newsworthy .

 

 

1072.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 11:30 am

It seems like Allah was wrong about veiling poor women. Veils don´t protect women.

 

Quoting CANLI

Have you read the article D_K ?

Have you seen the pictures of the women who are talking ?

Are all of them not wearing hijab,or some wear and some dont ?

What this got to do with what they wear ?!

 

İ didnt say Egypt is Heaven,women get harassed at USA,UK,France,Germany,Egypt...ect,would this imply they are not free to wear whatever they want ?

Or do you suggest they get harassed there also for what they wear ?!

The harassement those women meant is not just the sexual gestures,but also the strange men attempts to talk with them ,to get their attention so they pick them up ´as that woman expression´

 

 

1073.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 12:06 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

You are right, it wouldn´t be newsworthy, just simply because not harassing and respecting women is something very normal and there would be nothing to blow the trumpet about.

As for Canli, she would offer her heart taken out in order to protect her country´s image or protect her religion. It is called patriotism worshipped in many countries including Turkey. So, statements of people like Canli is not trustworthy.

 

 Well I´m quite sure there are many normal Egyptians.

 

As  for Canlı.  I don´t believe she would give false information about her personal experiences. 

1074.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 07:21 pm

And I suppose the newsarticles I post here about opressed/mutulated/tortured/murdered women and teenage girls for the HONOR aren´t newsworthy to read for you, Peace Train. Such news don´t catch your eyes and ears, you just ignore and make yourself believe that such reports are lies all made up for to sell and make money?

 

Quoting peacetrain

Well I´m quite sure there are many normal Egyptians.

 

As for Canlı. I don´t believe she would give false information about her personal experiences.

 

 

1075.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 07:32 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

And I suppose the newsarticles I post here about opressed/mutulated/tortured/murdered women and teenage girls for the HONOR aren´t newsworthy to read for you, Peace Train. Such news don´t catch your eyes and ears, you just ignore and make yourself believe that such reports are lies all made up for to sell and make money?

 

 Hey ZZ you can assume anything you wish about me.  

 

I commented on your charge that Canlı´s account was untrustworthy.  You managed to squeeze a great deal of meaning out of that.  Well done!  

1076.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 07:37 pm

I think you have a problem here with many users/members I am reading some posts and think that you have a serious mental problem. You attacked me from the beginning even though I had said nothing bad to you.

 

Quoting peacetrain

Hey ZZ you can assume anything you wish about me.

 

I commented on your charge that Canlı´s account was untrustworthy. You managed to squeeze a great deal of meaning out of that. Well done!

 

 

1077.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 07:51 pm

This is obviously quite old and many of you may have seen it, but someone showed it to me today and it was the first time I´d seen it.

 

http://www.atmo.se/zino.aspx?pageID=44&documentID=274&articleID=399

1078.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 08:04 pm

One  Brit´s take on the elections in the US. 

 

Is it just me LIR or is Russel Brand a Cupid look-i-likie ? 

1079.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 09:01 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

One  Brit´s take on the elections in the US. 

 

Is it just me LIR or is Russel Brand a Cupid look-i-likie ? 

The cost to vote in the US?  $0

 

Hummm....doing whatever is contrary to what Britian wants...PRICELESS!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1080.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 10:48 pm

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

I think you have a problem here with many users/members I am reading some posts and think that you have a serious mental problem. You attacked me from the beginning even though I had said nothing bad to you.

 

 Oh ZZ you blew my cover

 

btw please can you enlighten me about the "attack" ?  My mental state has affected my memory

 

 

1081.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 11:16 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

One  Brit´s take on the elections in the US.

 

Is it just me LIR or is Russel Brand a Cupid look-i-likie ? 

 

I´d love to comment but it is totally impossible for me to open youtube links when they are posted like this {#lang_emotions_sad} - but I agree about the lookie-likie thing!

1082.       mltm
3690 posts
 09 Sep 2008 Tue 11:26 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

I´d love to comment but it is totally impossible for me to open youtube links when they are posted like this {#lang_emotions_sad} - but I agree about the lookie-likie thing!

 Why not? Are you in China? Because in Turkey the ban is removed as far as I know.

 

1083.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Sep 2008 Wed 03:58 am

 

Quoting peacetrain

Dear Canlı,

 

 If you and a few friends used the media to make your point, that you aren´t harrassed, perhaps people would believe you more .  But I somehow don´t think ZZ would find it quite so newsworthy .

 

 Dear PT,

İf not for D_K question,i would NOT have replied to ZZ´s post

1084.       CANLI
5084 posts
 10 Sep 2008 Wed 03:59 am

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

statements of people like Canli is not trustworthy.

 

 Well,thank you!

 

But,i wonder what is your definitions about the ´attack´ thing ?!

These were your words to me,and those are yours to PT ,

 

Quoting zhang ziyi

I think you have a problem here with many users/members I am reading some posts and think that you have a serious mental problem. You attacked me from the beginning even though I had said nothing bad to you.

 

And YET,you accused PT of attacking you!

1085.       lady in red
6947 posts
 10 Sep 2008 Wed 10:54 am

 

Quoting mltm

 Why not? Are you in China? Because in Turkey the ban is removed as far as I know.

 

 I can´t get youtube except through ww.ktunnel.com and if the link is not produced in full I can´t copy/paste it to k.tunnel.  OK - is it just me - can someone else in Turkey tell me if they are able to get youtube please?

1086.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Sep 2008 Wed 03:40 pm

Incredible pictures from Macedonia and insights of Macedonian wedding style:

 

Covered cart containing women -- part of bride´s wedding party transport to groom´s house -- being unloaded at groom´s house --

 

http://www.library.umass.edu/spcoll/galleries/halpern43.htm

1087.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 06:32 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/7208505.stm

 

This is an amazing story of Voltec the bear that was adopted and looked after by men in the Polish army who were fighting in WWII.  I saw this story on TV last night, as the town in Scotland were the troup and the bear were billeted to want to build a memorial to him.  The bear was raised by these men and did everything they did, worked, drank beer, smoked and slept in the same tents.

 

When they came to Scotland the bear then lived in the zoo, becoming a massive attraction and he lived until 1963.

 

This is really an incredible story.

1088.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 06:35 pm

Hurricane headed towards the Texas coast...AGAIN!  I am really getting tired of evacuating!!

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080911/ap_on_re_us/ike

1089.       teaschip
3870 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 06:37 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Hurricane headed towards the Texas coast...AGAIN!  I am really getting tired of evacuating!!

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080911/ap_on_re_us/ike

 

 Oh Lis, I just went through Hanna when I was on vacation. I don´t envy you..I hope you stay safe. 

1090.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 06:46 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Oh Lis, I just went through Hanna when I was on vacation. I don´t envy you..I hope you stay safe. 

 

Thanks for your well wishes!!  We are leaving this afternoon! 

1091.       CANLI
5084 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 09:27 pm

Wish you and your family be safe and be back shortly Lis.

1092.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 10:48 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

Wish you and your family be safe and be back shortly Lis.

 

+1

 

Be safe. Hope the hurricane season ends soon...

1093.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 10:50 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

+1

 

Be safe. Hope the hurricane season ends soon...

 

 +1

1094.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 07:47 am

http://www.akilli.tv/video/35072/yalandan-aglayan-hoca.aspx

 

cakaaal!

1095.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 01:30 pm

http://www.google.com/chrome

 

What a fantastic new browser..Simple,  minimal memory usage and  really fast..I am really impressed..

 

1096.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 04:46 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Thanks for your well wishes!!  We are leaving this afternoon! 

 

 {#lang_emotions_sad}  I don´t know how you do it.  I was evacuated once because the river I live near was reaching it´s banks......once was enough for me!!  I hope everything is ok.  Stay safe!!

1097.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 05:01 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

Wish you and your family be safe and be back shortly Lis.

 

 +1

1098.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 05:44 pm

I thought of Elham when I read this: For you Elham:

Syria does not want to be a haven:

 

http://www.iranalmanac.com/news/lastnews.php?newsid=8381

1099.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 10:52 pm

I am not siding with the Russians. I lived through this, Mr. Longinotti:

 

As Soviet military units overtook columns of German civilian refugees fleeing to the west, they behaved in a way which has not been seen in Europe since the Mongol invasions of the Middle Ages. Often the men, most of them farmers or Germans who had been engaged in other essential occupations and thus exempted from military service, were simply murdered on the spot. The women were, almost without exception, gang-raped. This was the fate of girls as young as eight years old and old women in their eighties, as well as women in the advanced stages of pregnancy. Women who resisted rape had their throats cut or were shot. Very often women were murdered after being gang-raped. Many women and girls were raped so often and so brutally that they died from this abuse alone.

Sometimes Soviet tank columns simply rolled right over the fleeing refugees, grinding them into the mud with their tank treads. When Soviet Army units occupied East Prussian villages, they engaged in orgies of torture, rape, and murder so bestial that they cannot be described fully on this program.

 

http://www.danzigfreestate.org/deathofacity.html

 

 Apocalypse 1945: 

The Bombing of Dresden by the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and United States Army Air Force (USAAF) between 13 February and 15 February 1945, 12 weeks before the surrender of the Armed Forces (Wehrmacht) of Nazi Germany, remains one of the most controversial Allied actions of the Second World War. The raids saw 1,300 heavy bombers drop over 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices in four raids, destroying 13 square miles (34 km2) of the city, the baroque capital of the German state of Saxony, and causing a firestorm that consumed the city centre Estimates of civilian casualties vary greatly, but recent publications place the figure between 24,000 and 40,000.

 

 

 

 

1100.       lesluv
722 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 11:15 pm

http://style.uk.msn.com/wellbeing/treatmentroom/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9512602

 

 

strange spa treatment anyone up for reviewing it?

1101.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 11:22 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

http://style.uk.msn.com/wellbeing/treatmentroom/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9512602

 

 

strange spa treatment anyone up for reviewing it?

 

I did that, in Balıklı Kaplıca near Sivas. It was fun! The tiny ones only tickled a little, the bigger ones - up to 20 cm - hit my legs so hard that a mole started bleeding (which attracted more fish). But it did not hurt at all. I was there in June 2007 with a travel mate from New Zealand. We were the only tourists, all other visitors were Turkish women. Nice recommendable experience.

1102.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 12 Sep 2008 Fri 11:37 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

I did that, in Balıklı Kaplıca near Sivas. It was fun! The tiny ones only tickled a little, the bigger ones - up to 20 cm - hit my legs so hard that a mole started bleeding (which attracted more fish). But it did not hurt at all. I was there in June 2007 with a travel mate from New Zealand. We were the only tourists, all other visitors were Turkish women. Nice recommendable experience.

 

 The thought of blood alone makes my knees feel weak :-S How can that be recommendable

1103.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 09:03 am

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 The thought of blood alone makes my knees feel weak :-S How can that be recommendable

 

 It was just a drop! And only because I have that mole. Come on DK, be tough! lol lol

1104.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 09:54 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Thanks for your well wishes!!  We are leaving this afternoon! 

 

I hope you´re fine Elisabeth, thinking of you when seeing this video and picture:

 

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/feature?section=news/local&id=6102015

 

Huizen op Galveston Island in Texas worden verwoest door brand en overstromingen, terwijl de orkaan Ike vrijdag de kust van de Amerikaanse staat nadert.

 

 

1105.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 02:58 pm

EDUCATION ALARM IN ARAB WORLD, 95 MILLION ILLITERATE PEOPLE
(By Cristiana Missori) (ANSAmed) - ROME, SEPTEMBER 8 - With 95 million illiterate people, of whom 75 million aged between 15 and 45, the Arab world confirms itself on the first place in the global ranking of the countries whose citizens do not know either to read or write. These are the merciless data presented in Rome this morning during the conference titled "Literacy in the Mediterranean", organised at the Chamber of Deputies as part of the celebrations for the International Literacy Day, called by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. "One out of three citizens is illiterate", Arab League Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (ALESCO) director Mongi Bousnia reminded. This is double the world average (16%). Women are the most affected by the phenomenon, actually 46.5% do not know either to read or write. And also most of those who live in the villages and in the most depressed areas of the Arab world have never had a chance to sit at the school desks. The main causes for that phenomenon," Bousnia pointed out, "are surely the excessive birth rate", as the close correlation between exponential demographic growth and the rise of illiteracy rate (71%) shows in the five most populated states which are part of the 28 countries part of ALESCO. It is not only the demographic boom but also the abject poverty which afflicts these people, as well as the disinterest of the Arab governments which have ignored the literacy issue too long. "In the past thirty years we made many efforts to reduce the rate of the people without education, but the road to go is still very long," Bousnia said. In relative terms, the data speak of a constant drop. In 1970 the rate of illiterate adults in the Arab states was 75%, in 1990 it was 48.7%, in 2000 it was 39.9%, while in 2007 the average of illiterate people in this area of the world is around 30%. "Nevertheless, in absolute terms, the number of illiterate Arab citizens is growing at a skyrocketing speed," Bousnia said. From 50 million illiterate in 1970, there were 60 million in 1990s, to the current 95.5 million out of the 335 million citizens of those states. There have been many common efforts - also of the economic type . taken since the 1960s by the Arab governments, but the road is yet to be climbed. "Eradicate illiteracy is a way to increase security in the Mediterranean area," the ALESCO director said. Here, he believes, the role of the woman is fundamental for fighting against the mentality of hatred and violence which lies on the basis of terrorism. However, investment in literacy programmes is needed. "Tunisian President Ben Ali has launched an appeal to the rich oil-producing countries so that their governments allocate one dollar per each barrel of crude in projects to fight illiteracy in the Arab states," Bousnia said. Not only the institutions, but also the Arab civil society, with its non-governmental associations and organisations, can give its contribution. It is thanks to the NGOs that the poor people in Egypt come close to education, Raafat Abdel Baki, delegate of the Egyptian Education Ministry, explained during the day of study organised by the National Union to Fight Illiteracy, by the Observatory of the Mediterranean and the University of Castel Sant´Angelo. With 17 million illiterates, Egypt is the Arab state with the highest number of illiterate people. (ANSAmed).

http://www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME09.@AM16472.html

1106.       CANLI
5084 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 04:09 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

I hope you´re fine Elisabeth, thinking of you when seeing this video and picture:

 

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/feature?section=news/local&id=6102015

 

Huizen op Galveston Island in Texas worden verwoest door brand en overstromingen, terwijl de orkaan Ike vrijdag de kust van de Amerikaanse staat nadert.

 

 Ohhhh dear God !

 

İ wish she and her family are fine,also her home town !

 

Horrible !

İts really as they call it anger of nature !

1107.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 04:36 pm

I sincerely hope that Elisabeth and her family, friends and neighbours are safe and well.

1108.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 06:25 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

I did that, in Balıklı Kaplıca near Sivas. It was fun! The tiny ones only tickled a little, the bigger ones - up to 20 cm - hit my legs so hard that a mole started bleeding (which attracted more fish). But it did not hurt at all. I was there in June 2007 with a travel mate from New Zealand. We were the only tourists, all other visitors were Turkish women. Nice recommendable experience.

 

Here is a video in English (there are also Turkish, French and German video´s) about this center:

 

http://www.balikli.org/english_video.htm

1109.       lesluv
722 posts
 13 Sep 2008 Sat 07:08 pm

ooh I don´t think I would like that.....well done for giving it a go!!

1110.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Sep 2008 Sun 03:09 am

The destruction Ike caused..I do hope Elisabeth is ok..

1111.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Sep 2008 Sun 12:47 pm

Senior judge / Saudi Arabia /permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels 

 

Saudi judge condemns ´immoral TV´

 

The most senior judge in Saudi Arabia has said it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels which broadcast immoral programmes.

Sheikh Salih Ibn al-Luhaydan said some "evil" entertainment programmes aired by the channels promoted debauchery.

.......

"There is no doubt that these programmes are a great evil, and the owners of these channels are as guilty as those who watch them," said the sheikh.

"It is legitimate to kill those who call for corruption if their evil can not be stopped by other penalties."

.....

I think somebody has to remind this guy that ´he can always change the channel´ lol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7613575.stm

 

1112.       azade
1606 posts
 14 Sep 2008 Sun 02:41 pm

Perhaps this will be the end to the 1000+ adult saudi channels that are abaliable in Turkey {#lang_emotions_cool}

1113.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 03:22 am

US election diary: Stupid season

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/09/200891312016615912.html

1114.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 09:21 am

This interesting news item was covered on the BBC Breakfast News this morning. It seems that the £1 notes are being sold on Ebay as collectors´ items, selling for asmuch as £31 for 2 (latest bid).  Some people are simply buying the notes as a souvenir.  It seems the notes aren´t being spent as intended

 

Seems a novelty idea but it has actually been done for serious reasons.

 

"TOWN THAT GAVE ITSELF A LICENCE TO PRINT MONEY

Lewes in East Sussex hopes to safeguard its traditions by issuing a local currency"

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/17/currencies.britishidentity

1115.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 09:21 am

This interesting news item was covered on the BBC Breakfast News this morning. It seems that the £1 notes are being sold on Ebay as collectors´ items, selling for asmuch as £31 for 2 (latest bid).  Some people are simply buying the notes as a souvenir.  It seems the notes aren´t being spent as intended

 

Seems a novelty idea but it has actually been done for serious reasons.

 

"TOWN THAT GAVE ITSELF A LICENCE TO PRINT MONEY

 

Lewes in East Sussex hopes to safeguard its traditions by issuing a local currency"

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/17/currencies.britishidentity

1116.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 12:29 pm

A Chinese researcher takes care of the newly born panda cubs at the panda breeding center in Chengdu in southwest China´s Sichuan province Monday September 8th 2008. The center now has 82 pandas, including 15 cubs born this year, the highest number in the center´s history.

 breast feeding?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1117.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 01:30 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

A Chinese researcher takes care of the newly born panda cubs at the panda breeding center in Chengdu in southwest China´s Sichuan province Monday September 8th 2008. The center now has 82 pandas, including 15 cubs born this year, the highest number in the center´s history.

 breast feeding?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

A lovely article and the pandas are cute.

 

However, I can´t help wondering if the quality of care in China´s orphanages is as dedicated.

1118.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 07:54 pm

Pictures from Dr. Von Hagens´ Body Worlds Plastination Center..

This is the body factory where Dr. Von Hagens team prepares the bodies for his Body Worlds exhibitions throughout the world

 

1119.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 09:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

http://www.google.com/chrome

 

What a fantastic new browser..Simple,  minimal memory usage and  really fast..I am really impressed..

 

It has lots of bugs though - it´s still a beta version.

1120.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Sep 2008 Mon 09:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I saw this exhibition in Munich a couple of years ago - it was very impressive! However, there were some people who passed out while watching it... so if you´re a sensitive type, be careful before going to see it.

1121.       geniuda
1070 posts
 16 Sep 2008 Tue 12:06 am

 

Quoting catwoman

there were some people who passed out while watching it...

 

I would definitely be one of those passing out....i dont have the stomach for that. Ewww{#lang_emotions_puking}

1122.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Sep 2008 Wed 09:29 pm

 

WORLDS SMALLEST MAN AND LONGEST LEGS

 

 

He Pingping (smallest man) and Svetlana Pankratova (longest legs in the world pose together in Trafalgar Square. He Pingping 20 is the worlds smallest man and is 74.61 cm high and comes from Mongolia as Svetlana legs are 132cm and she comes from Russia. They both pose for the Guinness world records.

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95953/95953692.jpghttp://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95953/95953704.jpghttp://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95953/95953693.jpg

1123.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Sep 2008 Wed 10:44 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

I hope you´re fine Elisabeth, thinking of you when seeing this video and picture:

 

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/feature?section=news/local&id=6102015

 

Huizen op Galveston Island in Texas worden verwoest door brand en overstromingen, terwijl de orkaan Ike vrijdag de kust van de Amerikaanse staat nadert.

 

Well... we still haven´t heard from Elisabeth... I hope she posts soon so that we don´t worry!

1124.       libralady
5152 posts
 18 Sep 2008 Thu 11:32 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Pictures from Dr. Von Hagens´ Body Worlds Plastination Center..

This is the body factory where Dr. Von Hagens team prepares the bodies for his Body Worlds exhibitions throughout the world

 

 

Did he also prepare the crash test dummies they were using to crash test cars in Germany?  They did use corpses by the way!

 

1125.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Sep 2008 Fri 01:39 am

I have been to Southern Spain, the beautiful Andalucia: Granada, Sevilla and Cordoba with its ancient Moorish Heritage. Today I read this in the Saudi Aramco magazine about Washington Irving:

http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200805/following.washington.irving.htm

 

1126.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Sep 2008 Fri 02:57 pm

Eaglemouth tortoise

 

 An Eaglemouth tortoise is caught by local fishermen after it was spotted in a fish pond the tortoise is 80 centimeters long and weighs over 11 kilograms It has six pairs of spikes on its shell and has been estimated to be over 500 years old the tortoise was caught in Taizhou China

1127.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Sep 2008 Sun 02:30 am

 A suicide bomber killed at least 40 people in the capital, Islamabad.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7627584.stm

 

wow..Marriot Hotel in Islamabad..

It was my favorite place. I used to spend almost every weekend when I was there.

1128.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 21 Sep 2008 Sun 05:23 pm

Israel makes a mockery of human rights

Two boats loaded with tens of international activists entered Gaza in August in defiance of a deadly Israeli blockade on the coastal strip.

 

Some weeks ago, source from Press TV

1129.       Trudy
7887 posts
 26 Sep 2008 Fri 08:25 pm


Famous photographer Philip Toledano made this site:

 

http://www.americathegiftshop.com/#/start 

1130.       Trudy
7887 posts
 27 Sep 2008 Sat 11:59 am

A group of Dutch nudists called off a special church service to be held in a nudist park after receiving threats, a spokesman for the group said Friday.

In June, the Christian Gan Eden nudists held their first church service at the Flevo-Natuur nudist park in Zeewolde in the eastern Netherlands and planned to hold a second service.

However, the group was hit by numerous emails and phone calls, many of them threatening, the Gan Eden spokesman said. The church service was called off and the group shut its website down.

´I do not understand the fuss,´ the spokesman said. ´We are just a group of Christians who want to have our own church service.´

 

1131.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Sep 2008 Sat 01:06 pm

This is funny...

If you want to get everything all at once, this is usually what happens...

Everything starts with individualism; the more of it the better it gets; that a person can do whatever he/she wants unless he/she directly harms others becomes the norm at the expense of so many indirect harms potentially possible like in the case of regulations governing the use of narcotics in Holland.

People from the same country with swollen egos about what they are authorized to do, see nothing wrong in belittling Muslims with cartoons depicting their prophet as a terrorist. In my opinion this and many other such acts are merely acts of provocation designed to create friction between cultures and it serves the further alienation of cultures and belief systems from one another.

 

Nudists wishing to hold their own religious community and to maintain their church services is one such example. Nudity by its very nature is an essential disregard of established cultural norms and it is an act of defiance. The reasoning works like this, we prefer to be nude because being nude is being more natural hence being close to God in other words we are entitled to forming our own church too. We believe in the virtues of nudity and we do not care how others regard us. We would like to have the best of both worlds.

 

One would say, hey come on, cut the dramatics and wear those bloody garments to the church just on Sundays.

1132.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 27 Sep 2008 Sat 09:13 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

This is funny...

People from the same country with swollen egos about what they are authorized to do, see nothing wrong in belittling Muslims with cartoons depicting their prophet as a terrorist.

Indeed funny, when actually he was one. He organized about 70 military actions slaughtering villages after villages. The wars he started up are still carried out till today.

 

1133.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Sep 2008 Sat 09:44 pm

Well, I am sure you have had a deep impact on some 2 billion Muslims who regard that person as their pioneer. I guess they feel devastated now. What do you suggest us to get rid of this warlike race? Should we spit them in the face? Steal their oil? Establish multi-million dollar partnerships with them? We have enough radical politicians ruining peace around the world already...

 

1134.       WarTrain
325 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 02:28 pm

From the translation forum:-

 

"My love, I´ve fallen in love with you. Lets by [buy] a house in Alanya ...."

 

lol lol lol

1135.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 02:35 pm

A post of mine being modified without telling me because I dared to call a mod ´being shocked´. How pathetic that remarks like that are deleted. So much for freedom of speech. This site becomes intolerant more and more every day.

 

1136.       WarTrain
325 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 03:49 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

This site becomes intolerant more and more every day.

 

 +10000000000000000 {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

1137.       CANLI
5084 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 03:58 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

A post of mine being modified without telling me because I dared to call a mod ´being shocked´. How pathetic that remarks like that are deleted. So much for freedom of speech. This site becomes intolerant more and more every day.

 

 Trudy,mods and admins cant modify posts.

Only members can do it

1138.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 04:17 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 Trudy,mods and admins cant modify posts.

Only members can do it

 

I have deleted the picture because you asked me to, though I still find that you are overreacting. There was nothing wrong with that picture. When deleted I added a sarcastic comment saying something like ´picture deleted on request of a very shocked mod´. I did NOT delete that comment myself and now it is gone. If you mods and admins can´t modify than tlc is haunted.

1139.       CANLI
5084 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 04:31 pm

Well you can add the link to it and who want to open it,is free to do it,the article is subject is clear ,so the pictures will be expected there too.

As for modifying...i as mod can only modify my own post,but other´s...i cant do it.

Feel free to modify your post and add the sarcastic comment you want !

1140.       WarTrain
325 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 04:45 pm

I am surprised to hear that Mods cannot modify posts as I remember many times that when a post was removed, it was also removed from the "quoted" replies (which requires modifying the post)

1141.       CANLI
5084 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 04:54 pm

Well,we cant !

Ý cant !

Unless im a mod with less privileges {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1142.       WarTrain
325 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 04:58 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

Unless im a mod with less privileges {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Well Lady in Red just sent me a PM to say that SHE can modify posts and so can Meltem.

 

(NB. Let´s start a big Mod conspiracy theory to make them paranoid...... then they will be so busy with that we can play play play! ) lol

1143.       CANLI
5084 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 05:03 pm

 

 Fat chance hee hee

1144.       lady in red
6947 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 05:15 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

 Well Lady in Red just sent me a PM to say that SHE can modify posts and so can Meltem.

 

(NB. Let´s start a big Mod conspiracy theory to make them paranoid...... then they will be so busy with that we can play play play! ) lol

 

 Hmm...they all warned me you couldn´t be trusted....but did I listen?

 

{#lang_emotions_head_bang}

1145.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 07:05 pm

Only admin (Fatih) can modify posts. Other admins (me and DK) cannot, and moderators cannot modify members´ posts either.

1146.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 07:28 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Only admin (Fatih) can modify posts. Other admins (me and DK) cannot, and moderators cannot modify members´ posts either.

 

Then or Fatih did it or the site is really haunted. My comment was there early this morning and a couple of hours later not anymore.

1147.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 08:17 pm

Just go ahead and add it again Trudy, Admin didn´t do it for sure.

(Are you sure you added it? {#lang_emotions_laugh_at} )

1148.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 08:22 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Just go ahead and add it again Trudy, Admin didn´t do it for sure.

(Are you sure you added it? {#lang_emotions_laugh_at} )

 

 YES!! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}  And I already said what I wanted to say in a later post.

1149.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 08:31 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 YES!! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}  And I already said what I wanted to say in a later post.

 

Well Trudy... it doesn´t look like it. {#lang_emotions_unsure} lol I think you´re just complaining! {#lang_emotions_get_you} {#lang_emotions_rant}

1150.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Sep 2008 Sun 08:34 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Well Trudy... it doesn´t look like it. {#lang_emotions_unsure} lol I think you´re just complaining! {#lang_emotions_get_you} {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 Think what you want.

1151.       lesluv
722 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 10:44 am

pa.press.net - 29.09.2008 01:40

Grandfather, 71, told he´s pregnant

A 71-year-old grandfather treated in a US hospital was informed that he was suffering abdominal pains because he was pregnant.

John Grady Pippen was given a bulletin, saying: "Based on your visit today, we know you are pregnant."

The staff at Curry General Hospital in Gold Beach, Oregon, gave the retired mechanic and logger the happy news this month, along with some pain pills. Hospital administrator William McMillan said an errant keystroke caused the hospital´s computer to spit out the wrong discharge instructions for the grandfather.

http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9823913

 

ha ha

1152.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 07:57 pm

Roswitha hasn´t posted for awhile...{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1153.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 08:23 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Roswitha hasn´t posted for awhile...{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Neither has handsom....this is a curious coincidence!!{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1154.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 08:47 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Neither has handsom....this is a curious coincidence!!{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

 

I think we need an update from reporter Lis....it´s been a long time.  What´s the gossip on people?{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1155.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 09:03 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I think we need an update from reporter Lis....it´s been a long time.  What´s the gossip on people?{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

 With the current mods and all, I don´t think it will be very well received.  hehehe...I don´t want to cause another riot by trying to be humorous.  Pasta Forbid!!! 

1156.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 09:18 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 With the current mods and all, I don´t think it will be very well received.  hehehe...I don´t want to cause another riot by trying to be humorous.  Pasta Forbid!!! 

 

 Hey were still America, were not Russia yet! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  I think that´s what we need here, some humor..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1157.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 10:14 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Hey were still America, were not Russia yet! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  I think that´s what we need here, some humor..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 Well, Teas...maybe YOU and I are in America....but I don´t think we are all on the same page.

1158.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 10:16 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Well, Teas...maybe YOU and I are in America....but I don´t think we are all on the same page.

 

 Come on Elisabeth, don´t be shy, give us some flaming stuff.... lol lol

1159.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 10:36 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Come on Elisabeth, don´t be shy, give us some flaming stuff.... lol lol

 

 Withholding my comedy is the only weapon I have against the humorless regime!!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1160.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Oct 2008 Wed 10:57 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 With the current mods and all, I don´t think it will be very well received.  hehehe...I don´t want to cause another riot by trying to be humorous.  Pasta Forbid!!! 

 

Muhahahhahahahahhhahahahahah! {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

Go ahead, nothing is forbidden (just don´t joke about the PKK {#lang_emotions_ninja}).

1161.       WarTrain
325 posts
 02 Oct 2008 Thu 12:52 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Neither has handsom....this is a curious coincidence!!{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

Ros and thehairy?

 

1162.       mltm
3690 posts
 02 Oct 2008 Thu 06:34 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

Ros and thehairy?

 {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

1163.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Oct 2008 Thu 06:36 pm

 

Quoting WarTrain

Ros and thehairy?

 

 Where did they catch your eye?  Strolling along the beach on the IoW? {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1164.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Oct 2008 Thu 06:52 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/smelly-feet-and-the-family-stone-948594.html

 

Sharon Stone is now likely to have her son taken away from her, because of her bizarre behaviour in bringing him up.  In trying to resolve a smelly feet problem, she has resorted to have given the boy, or rather taking him to have botox injections in his feet.  It is also reported that for the first four years of his life, he had a 24 hour nanny to bring him up and she had little inivolvement due to her "committments".

 

Why are these women have chilren or are allowed to adopt children, as she has, if they are not prepared to raise them.  (This child mentioned above is her own, but she does have adopted children).  Do they not realise that they are not puppies or kittens that are given away when they are weaned?

1165.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 10:04 am

Ouch!!

Siyana Pasiwe, 32, was trying to get out of the grounds of a local museum after triggering the alarm.

He clambered up a tree, slipped and became impaled on the sharp steel fence surrounding the South African museum.

..

but says he didn´t feel any pain because of the amount of booze he had knocked back

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1761165.ece

        

1166.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 11:20 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Ouch!!

Siyana Pasiwe, 32, was trying to get out of the grounds of a local museum after triggering the alarm.

He clambered up a tree, slipped and became impaled on the sharp steel fence surrounding the South African museum.

..

but says he didn´t feel any pain because of the amount of booze he had knocked back

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1761165.ece

        

 

                                             

 

Your return!  I see the week off hasn´t changed you at all!  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

WB {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

(OMG - I just realised that sounds as if I think that´s you in the picture!! lollol)

1167.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 11:49 am

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

Your return!  I see the week off hasn´t changed you at all!  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

WB {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

 

After being spotted by Aenigma while strolling on the beaches of iow

Quote:Aenigma

Ros and thehairy?

 

There was no point of hiding anymore

Btw. Ros is sending her love to you all (she is in the other room)..

1168.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 12:55 pm

thehandsom and mltm neck and neck in the ´charts´

 

mltm --- 3003 pts.    thehandsom --- 3003 pts.

 

 

Let battle commence!!!   {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 

(this is a joke)

1169.       WarTrain
325 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 02:12 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

After being spotted by Aenigma while strolling on the beaches of iow

 

Handsom - I repeat that was NOT a nudist beach (you are supposed to wear clothes) and you were not just strolling you were running with all your hair blowing in the wind

 

(Good to see you back canim )

1170.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 03:08 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Btw. Ros is sending her love to you all (she is in the other room)..

 

Stop hiding her from us, ok? You selfish brat! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

1171.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 03:11 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

(OMG - I just realised that sounds as if I think that´s you in the picture!! lollol)

 

It was not? I thought this was a picture of a little mishap he had while being chased by one of the nationalists from this site for starting so many topics about P**.....

1172.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 05:30 pm

What a gorgeous bride.... lol

 

http://nl.tinypic.com/player.php?v=dhek39&s=4

1173.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 07:29 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

What a gorgeous bride.... lol

 

http://nl.tinypic.com/player.php?v=dhek39&s=4

 

 ha ha

1174.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 08:43 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

thehandsom and mltm neck and neck in the ´charts´

 

mltm --- 3003 pts.    thehandsom --- 3003 pts.

 

 

Let battle commence!!!   {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 

(this is a joke)

 

Well, you have a very peculiar sense of humor LIR! Joking about Turkish people fighting? What next? Criticizing Ataturk?

1175.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 09:01 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Well, you have a very peculiar sense of humor LIR! Joking about Turkish people fighting? What next? Criticizing Ataturk?

 

 Well I checked the TWMNBN thread and I couldn´t see anything there about fighting Turks!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}

1176.       catwoman
8933 posts
 03 Oct 2008 Fri 09:02 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Well I checked the TWMNBN thread and I couldn´t see anything there about fighting Turks!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

Well... obvious stuff is sometimes not mentioned!

1177.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Oct 2008 Sat 02:00 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Well... obvious stuff is sometimes not mentioned!

 

OK I added it!!

1178.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Oct 2008 Sat 06:44 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

OK I added it!!

 

{#lang_emotions_flowers}

1179.       geniuda
1070 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 08:32 pm

This morning while I was getting ready for work, I saw my son was drawing a picture, when he was done he said--"mom, look"............it was a turkish flag {#lang_emotions_bigsmile} .

 

I wonder where is he getting all this from???? {#lang_emotions_shy}

1180.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 11:14 pm

´Whore miles´ plan for Dutch prostitutes

Prostitutes in the Dutch city of Eindhoven are to be awarded "credits" in return for good behaviour under a new scheme to encourage them to abandon the oldest profession.

The prostitutes will receive so-called "street miles" that they can use to acquire free designer clothes or furniture, provided they take up an offer by the city council to take steps leading to a career change and a safer lifestyle.

"We needed to come up with incentives that these women might latch on to," said Veronique Beurskens of Eindhoven council, who is leading a drive to rid the city of street prostitution.

......

The plan is also receiving a lukewarm welcome among some prostitutes.

"This is fine if they actually want to move on to something else but some might not want to," said Metje Blaak from Red Thread, the Dutch Prostitutes´ Union. "At the end of the day, this is a step towards making street prostitution illegal, and what will happen to the women then?"

She added that prostitutes do not easily make the switch to a normal nine-to-five job. "They often miss the adrenaline rush. They need work where they feel they are really achieving something."

(Bungi jumping for them ?{#lang_emotions_unsure} )

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/...o-behave-952479.htmlccc

1181.       catwoman
8933 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 11:42 pm

It is quite interesting (abhorrent rather) to me that whenever the subject of prostitution is discussed, only the prostitutes are being talked about, as if they existed in vacuum and bore the whole responsibility for the existence of their profession. AS ALWAYS, the dominant group is unnoticed... and completely escapes any scrutiny! Even though it is what the johns do that´s immoral and disgusting! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1182.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 12:05 am

With dudu season winding down, there are a few sad farewell posts on the translation forum. {#lang_emotions_cry}

1183.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 10:14 am

Catwoman flirting with Meltem!!!  {#lang_emotions_owned}

1184.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 01:37 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Catwoman flirting with Meltem!!!  {#lang_emotions_owned}

 

 It´s only flirting, I know I am the one! Ask my ´PM from Catwoman´   {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1185.       lesluv
722 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 01:53 pm

miaaaaooooow ......something in the water you are all getting a bit frisky {#lang_emotions_lol}

1186.       WarTrain
325 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 02:54 pm

Prophet bride book appears in US



A novel about the Prophet Muhammad´s child bride has been published in the US ahead of schedule after the office of the British publisher was attacked.


Beaufort Books is publishing The Jewel of Medina by Sherry Jones in the US after Random House dropped it amid fears it could incite violence.


Three men were charged in the UK over a fire at offices of British publisher Gibson Square Books last month.


The novel follows the life of A´isha from six until the Prophet´s death.


Beaufort Books said it was publishing the novel ahead of schedule so it could be assessed on its merits as literature rather than the potential offence it could cause to Muslims.


 


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7656084.stm

1187.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 06:31 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 It´s only flirting, I know I am the one! Ask my ´PM from Catwoman´   {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Do not publish our pm´s! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

1188.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 06:32 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

miaaaaooooow ......something in the water you are all getting a bit frisky {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

Well.... i´m that type of cat, you know? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1189.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 07:28 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Do not publish our pm´s! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

 

 Oh no, Id never publish any details whatsoever, its them what makes our Private Messages private 

 

1190.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Oct 2008 Tue 07:59 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 Oh no, Id never publish any details whatsoever, its them what makes our Private Messages private 

 

 

Ok, ok, enough... {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

(Mltm canim... I´m only teasing DK... don´t take her seriously {#lang_emotions_shy})

1191.       lady in red
6947 posts
 08 Oct 2008 Wed 01:07 am

The kebap shop romance seems to be back on again!!

 

(ok - you need to be following translation forums for this one lol )

1192.       lesluv
722 posts
 08 Oct 2008 Wed 01:10 am

 

Quoting lady in red

The kebap shop romance seems to be back on again!!

 

(ok - you need to be following translation forums for this one lol )

 

 ooh how fabulous ....i´d been waiting for the next installment{#lang_emotions_lol}

1193.       lesluv
722 posts
 08 Oct 2008 Wed 01:22 am

Mr Gay UK chef ´cooked lover´

The first winner of Mr Gay UK stabbed a man to death before carving a piece of flesh from his thigh, seasoning it and cooking it, a court has heard (Image © ITN)

The first winner of Mr Gay UK stabbed a man to death before carving a piece of flesh from his thigh, seasoning it and cooking it, a court has heard.

Anthony Morley, who is from Leeds, denies murdering Damian Oldfield in April this year.

A jury at the city´s Crown Court has been told six pieces of cooked human flesh were found on a chopping board at 36-year-old Mr Morley´s flat.

Morley, who worked as a chef, walked into a nearby takeaway and told staff he had killed someone, Leeds Crown Court was told.

The prosecution alleges the two men had some kind of sexual relationship and engaged in sexual activity before the murder took place. Morley then cut Mr Oldfield´s throat and stabbed him several times, the court heard.

The court heard Morley later claimed: "It´s this lad, he tried to rape me so I stopped him."

When asked how he stopped him, the jury was told he answered: "I´m a chef, how do you think I stopped him?"

The prosecution said Morley was at least guilty of manslaughter but said the issue in the trial would be over provocation or abnormality of the mind.

The trial continues.

 

 

 

 

ooooh just a glass of chianti and that would b a perfect date mwahaha

1194.       WarTrain
325 posts
 08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:08 pm

All the lesbian affairs on this site lately .... maybe the women finally kicked those dudus into touch! lol

1195.       lesluv
722 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 12:37 am

 

Quoting WarTrain

All the lesbian affairs on this site lately .... maybe the women finally kicked those dudus into touch! lol

 

 I was begining to think I was on the wrong site......but now i´m here any spare ladieeeesss heeellllooooo mwahahaha

1196.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:49 am

 

Quoting WarTrain

All the lesbian affairs on this site lately .... maybe the women finally kicked those dudus into touch! lol

 

Judging that the lowest percent of gay-ness according to that test was 30%, this is not a surprise, is it?

1197.       lesluv
722 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 10:15 am

Rampant Rabbi: Seven wives, eight children and one very happy ´messiah´ - meet Britain´s most unorthodox family
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1074191/Rampant-Rabbi-Seven-wives-children-happy-messiah--meet-Britains-unorthodox-family.html

 

 

wondering if i could get away with seven husbands????

1198.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 10:20 am

 

Quoting lesluv

Rampant Rabbi: Seven wives, eight children and one very happy ´messiah´ - meet Britain´s most unorthodox family
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1074191/Rampant-Rabbi-Seven-wives-children-happy-messiah--meet-Britains-unorthodox-family.html

 

 

wondering if i could get away with seven husbands????

 

 You must be single!!  I assure you ONE is probably one too many! {#lang_emotions_scared}

1199.       lesluv
722 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 10:39 am

 

Quoting lady in red

 You must be single!!  I assure you ONE is probably one too many! {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 oooh hee hee i think a different one for each day of the week would do  {#lang_emotions_lol}

1200.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 10:44 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 oooh hee hee i think a different one for each day of the week would do  {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

Youuuuuu dudu!! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

1201.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 10:57 am

Turkish MP draws foreign attention!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}


http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2007/07/elections-in-turkey.html

 

1202.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 01:02 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Turkish MP draws foreign attention!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}


http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2007/07/elections-in-turkey.html

 

apparently  my sense of humour is not very sophisticated as I pissed myself laughing {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1203.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:25 pm

What happened to the most active user list???  {#lang_emotions_sad}

1204.       libralady
5152 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:27 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

What happened to the most active user list???  {#lang_emotions_sad}

 

 Yes, it is very lonely without it {#lang_emotions_cry}

1205.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:29 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Yes, it is very lonely without it {#lang_emotions_cry}

 

 I would just like to see if I am on top of handsom yet!! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1206.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:31 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 I would just like to see if I am on top of handsom yet!! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Were you on top of him? Elisabeth!!!! {#lang_emotions_noway}

1207.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:36 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Were you on top of him? Elisabeth!!!! {#lang_emotions_noway}

 

 I was a long time ago...but he somehow managed to get on top of me and won´t let me get back on top! 

1208.       libralady
5152 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:41 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 I was a long time ago...but he somehow managed to get on top of me and won´t let me get back on top! 

 

I managed to get on top of him once, but it was a struggle {#lang_emotions_lol} Now like you I am not sure where I stand on the "on top of whom" "whose on top of me" issues{#lang_emotions_unsure}  Pales the current economic crisis into insignificance....................

1209.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 04:44 pm

 

Quoting libralady

I managed to get on top of him once, but it was a struggle {#lang_emotions_lol} Now like you I am not sure where I stand on the "on top of whom" "whose on top of me" issues{#lang_emotions_unsure}  Pales the current economic crisis into insignificance....................

 

 Another woman on top of thehandsom.... lol lol

1210.       lesluv
722 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 06:33 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Another woman on top of thehandsom.... lol lol

 

 i am sooo under him i don´t think i´ll ever get the chance to be on top{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1211.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 11:02 pm

Mods behaving badly.

1212.       catwoman
8933 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 11:12 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 I was a long time ago...but he somehow managed to get on top of me and won´t let me get back on top! 

 

Please... keep your bedroom details private... {#lang_emotions_shy}

1213.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 11:49 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Please... keep your bedroom details private... {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 As usual, your mind is in the gutter! or should I say...the litter box??

1214.       teaschip
3870 posts
 10 Oct 2008 Fri 12:56 am

Chicken Breast...my gosh $11.00 for a pack of 3.  I guess I may have to resort to legs and wings.{#lang_emotions_confused}

1215.       teaschip
3870 posts
 10 Oct 2008 Fri 12:57 am

Gas for $2.98..wow haven´t seen that forever.

1216.       teaschip
3870 posts
 10 Oct 2008 Fri 01:09 am

Mango cherry popsicles and their fatfree...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1217.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 11 Oct 2008 Sat 09:32 am

Avatars on another Turkish forum:

 

      

     

This is my favourite . . . what a melonhead  

  http://www.turkeycentral.com

1218.       WarTrain
325 posts
 11 Oct 2008 Sat 12:23 pm

The segment of the "6 more deaths" thread where the mods enter the discussion....starting by criticising everyone for insults and going off topic (DK at one point threatening to lock the thread) ....then proceeding to insult and go seriously off topic...... lol lol lol

 

You have to luv ´em!

1219.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Oct 2008 Sat 04:01 pm

Beautification engine

 

a software "beautification engine" that can alter the facial geometry of people in photos and, in theory, make them look more attractive.

Developed by researchers in Israel (including a guy who now works at Microsoft), it uses algorithms based on 243 measurements between facial features and tries to determine the ideal set of distances.

The formula was developed by surveying 68 men and women in Israel and Germany who were shown photos of white men and women, and asked to pick the most attractive faces. Consequently, the process only works on Caucasian faces so far.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/buzz/archives/151130.asp


The slide show

 

I bet, that software would not find anything to alter for my pictures

1220.       lesluv
722 posts
 11 Oct 2008 Sat 05:03 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Beautification engine

 

a software "beautification engine" that can alter the facial geometry of people in photos and, in theory, make them look more attractive.

Developed by researchers in Israel (including a guy who now works at Microsoft), it uses algorithms based on 243 measurements between facial features and tries to determine the ideal set of distances.

The formula was developed by surveying 68 men and women in Israel and Germany who were shown photos of white men and women, and asked to pick the most attractive faces. Consequently, the process only works on Caucasian faces so far.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/buzz/archives/151130.asp


The slide show

 

I bet, that software would not find anything to alter for my pictures

 

no i don´t think it would be able to get through the hair!!

 

 

 

 mmmmmm james franco......definately in my top 5 {#lang_emotions_shy}

1221.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Oct 2008 Sat 08:01 pm


Concert at Chichén Itzá
October 10, 2008



Plácido Domingo has certainly stirred things up. Last Saturday night, the man many hail as the world’s greatest living tenor staged the “Concert of 1000 Columns” at the great Maya site of Chichén Itzá in Mexico. Domingo, for those of you who are not opera fans, was born in Spain but grew up in Mexico, where he sang in a rock and roll band, played the piano for a ballet company, and made his stage debut in the late 1950s. Since then, Domingo has seldom looked back, performing in the world’s premier opera houses to rave reviews, recording more than 100 albums, starring in numerous opera films, and even playing a cameo part in The Simpsons.


By all accounts, audience members at the “Concert of 1000 Columns,” who forked out as much as $900 for a ticket, lapped up Domingo’s performance. The great tenor reportedly turned on the charm, crooning a love song in Mayan and wooing devoted fans with several popular mariachi tunes.


But the performance left many Mexican archaeologists fuming. Mexican law, they pointed out, requires that Maya ruins be preserved to educate Mexicans about the ancient past: Domingo’s concert did nothing to illuminate Maya culture. Moreover, archaeologists worried that the construction of concert scaffolding would harm Chichén Itzá’s fragile stonework. In an effort at damage control, the Yucatan state government issued public assurances that all due precautions were taken to protect the site during the performance.


When I first read about the concert, I asked myself why Domingo was so keen to perform at Chichén Itzá. It’s difficult to believe that the site’s acoustics could rival those of his customary venues. So Chichén Itzá’s great appeal was clearly to provide a spectacular backdrop for the tenor—something that would convince fans to shell out big bucks for tickets and would attract major television interest. Can a “Live at the Concert of 1000 Columns” special or DVD be far off?


Domingo is not the only performer, however, who has been selling tickets and raking in the cash at a UNESCO World Heritage site. In 2004, Alicia Keyes, Cyndi Lauper and Boyz II Men performed a major concert at The Great Wall of China, claiming that the main message was “to promote peace.” Earlier on, both Sting and Pink Floyd played dates at the pyramids in Giza. And who can forget the performances of Verdi’s opera, Aida, at Giza in the 1990s?  In addition to making money,  they were staged to calm the fear of tourists after Islamic terrorists murdered 58 foreigners at Luxor. “Nothing can prove that this country is safe and stable better than a huge show like “Aida,” performed year after year in front of the most important tourist site in the world,” said Nazmi Amin, a top official of Egypt’s Tourist Authority, in an interview with the New York Times.


The truth is that we use our most important archaeological sites today for all sorts of reasons. But I wonder if it isn’t time for a little soul-searching about how we treat these cultural monuments. I personally believe the Mexican government had it right the first time. These sites are not backdrops or film sets, they are not concert halls or tourist ads, and they certainly aren’t profit centers. They are our fragile link with ancient civilizations. They deserve better.






1222.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 11 Oct 2008 Sat 11:34 pm

 Palestinian: Settlers Tied My Son to ATV, Dragged Him Through Olive Grove

Date posted: August 14, 2008
By Ali Waked
A Palestinian resident of Ras KarKar, a West Bank village located near Modiin, claimed Wednesday that a Jewish settler tied his 17-year-old son to an All-Terrain Vehicle (ATV) and dragged him through an olive grove.

According to Hafez Nupal, on Monday at around 6 pm he and his son were working in their fields when two settlers riding an ATV approached. "One of them yelled ´what are you doing on this land? God gave us this land and no Arab dog will set foot on it´," he recounted.

"When the argument began to heat up, one of the settlers pulled out a gun and the other beat me up. I was able to fight back a little, but then the other settler began to beat me up as well."

Nupal said the settlers, residents of the illegal outpost of Zait Raanan, proceeded to throw him to the ground, tie his hands and legs together and then tie his son to the ATV, adding that another Palestinian fled the scene and informed the Ras Karkar council, which reported the incident to the IDF´s Coordination and Liaison Office in Beit-El.

Nupal said that at this point another settler arrived and led him, his son and another 10-year-old Palestinian at gunpoint to the illegal outpost. There, according to Nupal, the settlers physically assaulted the boy and his teenage son, who was evacuated to a Ramallah hospital for treatment.

Ras-Karkar council member Ayad Masloum told Ynet that the army informed him that the three settlers had been detained after approaching an IDF firing range, but were released later that evening.

Sources in the defense establishment said they were unfamiliar with the incident.

 

http://chet-justice.blogspot.com/2008/08/palestinian-settlers-tied-my-son-to-atv.html

 

http://www.ism-germany.net/2008/08/13/%e2%80%9ekein-arabischer-hund-wird-dieses-land-betreten%e2%80%9c

 

 

Many farmers in the Gaza Strip are being denied access to their land
by Israeli occupation forces. An arbitrary ´buffer zone´ is being
imposed hundreds of metres deep long the Green Line. Agricultural land
has been destroyed in these areas and massive numbers of olive and
fruit trees have been bulldozed, devastating the livelihoods of entire
farming communities. According to the PCHR, approximately 31.503
dunums/31.5 million square metres of land in the Gaza Strip, most of
it agricultural, has been razed by the Israelis. This represents at
least 10% of the total arable land base of the Gaza Strip. This
statistic was published in 2005 but much more destruction has been
carried out since. The Al Mezan Centre for Human Rights quoted
31,845,815 square metres of agricultural land levelled by the end of
2007. This does not include lands confiscated more than once; the area
confiscated being nearly 10 million square metres.


 

1223.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 03:08 pm

Warning - this could be very upsetting.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7652000/7652268.stm

 

When I heard this being discussed on TV yesterday morning I felt physically sick.  But the actions of a group of people, gathered at a multi story car park, last weekend, should leave them with severly battered consciences.

 

Wonder whey they were doing?  They had gathered to watch events unfolding over a period of three hours.  A young man, standing at the top on the parapit was threatening to jump.  Police were trying to talk him down.  So what do you think the crowd did?  The gouded him to jump, encouraging him and talking mobile phone videos and photos of him when he did jump.

 

It sickens me to think I now live in a society that act in such a way.  You cannot call these people human.

1224.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 03:28 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Warning - this could be very upsetting.

 

It sickens me to think I now live in a society that act in such a way.  You cannot call these people human.

 

 +1

1225.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 03:35 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Warning - this could be very upsetting.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7652000/7652268.stm

 

When I heard this being discussed on TV yesterday morning I felt physically sick.  But the actions of a group of people, gathered at a multi story car park, last weekend, should leave them with severly battered consciences.

 

Wonder whey they were doing?  They had gathered to watch events unfolding over a period of three hours.  A young man, standing at the top on the parapit was threatening to jump.  Police were trying to talk him down.  So what do you think the crowd did?  The gouded him to jump, encouraging him and talking mobile phone videos and photos of him when he did jump.

 

It sickens me to think I now live in a society that act in such a way.  You cannot call these people human.

 

Words fail me - it´s a great shame they can´t charge the entire crowd with manslaughter - its like something out of the middle ages {#lang_emotions_noway}

 

1226.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 04:25 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

no i don´t think it would be able to get through the hair!!

 

lol lol lol

1227.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 04:27 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Wonder whey they were doing?  They had gathered to watch events unfolding over a period of three hours.  A young man, standing at the top on the parapit was threatening to jump.  Police were trying to talk him down.  So what do you think the crowd did?  The gouded him to jump, encouraging him and talking mobile phone videos and photos of him when he did jump.

 

Wow... this is unbelievable.... shocking. I firmly believe that it´s teh culture of video games and violent movies that makes these people excited by something like this. {#lang_emotions_puking}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1228.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 05:52 pm

The vegetarian festival!

Caption of the images says:

The Vegetarian festival takes place during late September / early October each year for nine days and is intended to bring good luck to the individual as well as the community for the next year. Each of the main temples in the town are given the honor of letting the procession begin at their location. The Ma Song are devotees who are believed to possess supernatural powers and use self torture such as body piercing, walking on fire, and exposure to fireworks to inflict pain upon themselves in order to protect the community from future suffering.

 

Phuket Veg Fest

ps..I am still trying to figure out where the vegetables come into equation..{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95491/95491801.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95491/95491812.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95491/95491824.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95491/95491832.jpghttp://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95491/95491820.jpg

1229.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 06:55 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The vegetarian festival!

Caption of the images says:

The Vegetarian festival takes place during late September / early October each year for nine days and is intended to bring good luck to the individual as well as the community for the next year. Each of the main temples in the town are given the honor of letting the procession begin at their location. The Ma Song are devotees who are believed to possess supernatural powers and use self torture such as body piercing, walking on fire, and exposure to fireworks to inflict pain upon themselves in order to protect the community from future suffering.

 

Phuket Veg Fest

ps..I am still trying to figure out where the vegetables come into equation..{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Vegetarians stabbing themselves with long object....am I supposed to see a connection???{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

1230.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 07:31 pm

Half man Half tree.

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/real_life/article516015.ece

1231.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 08:40 pm

 

 

 Yes that caught my eye about a year ago I guess. I wonder what happened to him, at the time they were discussing curing him as far as possible.

1232.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 08:58 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 Yes that caught my eye about a year ago I guess. I wonder what happened to him, at the time they were discussing curing him as far as possible.

 

Turkish media´s eye has been on him. He got better. He can use his hands a bit, but he will go on the treatment to get even better.

http://galeri.internethaber.com/gallery.php?id=1052&no=1

1233.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Oct 2008 Mon 11:45 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Vegetarians stabbing themselves with long object....am I supposed to see a connection???{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 The vegetable must be inside their skulls!  No-one with  a brain cell would do this ..................surely!

1234.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 12:09 am

 

Quoting libralady

 The vegetable must be inside their skulls!  No-one with  a brain cell would do this ..................surely!

 

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

1235.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 07:50 pm

The case of the Guantanamo lawyer, the detainees and the illegal pairs of pants.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-case-of-the-guantanamo-lawyer-the-detainees-and-the-illegal-pairs-of-pants-402338.html

1236.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 08:15 pm

Women´s Islamic Football Tournament in Tehran, Iran on October 12, 2008.

 

I can see her tummy button though!

 

 

1237.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 08:26 pm

That´s cute..tummy button I haven´t heard that before.  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  Their clothing looks very hot to be playing soccer, hmm football.

1238.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 09:18 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

That´s cute..tummy button I haven´t heard that before.  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

Aww..

are you saying that no men complimented to you such as ´how beautiful, how lovely, how sexy your tummy botton is´?

 

 

1239.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:14 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I can see her tummy button though!

 

Everybody sees what they want to see! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

1240.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:24 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Women´s Islamic Football Tournament in Tehran, Iran on October 12, 2008.

 

I can see her tummy button though!

 

 

 Awwwwwwwwwwww is this an episode I missed of the Tellytubbies?

Which one is LaLa - the red one?

1241.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:38 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Awwwwwwwwwwww is this an episode I missed of the Tellytubbies?

Which one is LaLa - the red one?

 

 I thought the yellow one was La La or is that Po?....but its been a long time since my son watched teletubbies!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1242.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:44 pm

Here is a nice picture of the Tehran Women´s Football Team

 

 

1243.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 01:43 am

A bus full of Turkish-Greek history

Encounter with a Pomak

 

Passenger buses that travel from Turkey to Greece are more often than not vessels for a strange cultural and historical amalgam of the tumultuous history between the neighboring countries. Aboard a bus headed from Istanbul´s main bus terminal to Thessalonica, I sat waiting expectantly for the bus to take off so I could doze off until passport control at the Turkish-Greek border. I was headed for a weekend trip to Alexandroupolis – Dedeaðaç in Turkish – the first major Greek city after the border.

  Prejudice creeps in when you don´t expect it, when you aren´t paying attention.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=91528

 

1244.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 02:32 pm

Conspiracy theorists still believe the world is flat!!!

(I wonder if that includes some of our dear Turkish members who love a conspiracy )

 

On 24 December 1968, the crew of the Apollo 8 mission took a photo now known as Earthrise. To many, this beautiful blue sphere viewed from the moon´s orbit is a perfect visual summary of why it is right to strive to go into space.

 

Not to everybody though. There are people who say they think this image is fake - part of a worldwide conspiracy by space agencies, governments and scientists.

Welcome to the world of the flat-earther.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7540427.stm

 

1245.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 05:23 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Here is a nice picture of the Tehran Women´s Football Team

 

 

 

 Hehehe I am still laughing at this lol lol lol

(made myself laugh )

1246.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 07:28 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Aww..

are you saying that no men complimented to you such as ´how beautiful, how lovely, how sexy your tummy botton is´?

 

 We refer to them as belly buttons..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  As far as your question, I have an inny so I don´t receive too many compliments from men that my "tummy button" is beautiful.{#lang_emotions_shy}  Maybe if I got my tummy button pierced I would get more compliments.{#lang_emotions_wink}

1247.       mltm
3690 posts
 16 Oct 2008 Thu 10:02 am

The video how the PKK suicide bomber woman caught by the turkish police in Istanbul. The police had been following her for days. The video shows the woman while walking so calmly in the Ýstanbul streets sometimes in a turban, sometimes without. She was in the preparation of carrying out her suicide bomb attack around the police station in Aksaray. Thanks to the police´s great operation, she was caught. Congragulations to the couragous police.

http://videogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/Video.aspx?s=5&vid=2809

 

1248.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Oct 2008 Thu 06:27 pm

 

 

Operation Gomorrah, Hamburg destroyed by a Firestorm

 

http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/terrorbombing.htm

Inferno: The Devastation of Hamburg 1943

by Keith Lowe

Penguin £25, pp489

´Bomber´ Harris or ´Butcher´ Harris? Keith Lowe, author of Inferno, an exemplary analysis of the week-long bombing of Hamburg which killed more than 40,000 in 1943, masterminded by Air Chief Marshall Arthur Harris, comes no closer to settling the argument of whether he was hero or villain. Harris´s detractors will argue that he had no notion of the hell he visited on the civilian population of Germany, if, indeed, he actually cared. His defenders will claim that cowing a civilian population was as important as destroying war factories responsible for all methods of destruction, whether shells or U-boats, as was the case in Hamburg.

While the bombing of Dresden in 1945 still - and rightly - occasions debate on the necessity or otherwise of total war, the bombing of Hamburg two years earlier is of equal importance, if less discussed. It is to Lowe´s credit that he uses material both from members of the RAF and the American air force and those on the receiving end of one of the Second Word War´s most determined aerial bombardments to present a picture of atrocious human suffering, without seeking to be judgmental.

The most poignant stories come in asides. A small boy, removed from Hamburg when the rest of his family has died, is stopped by an official in the town to which he has been exiled and is asked what is in his two bags: one contains the remains of his pet rabbit, the other the reduced and charred remains of his sister. Other survivors tell of victims of the firestorm becoming human torches as they sought to escape the blistering heat.

Nothing quite prepares you for the photographs of line after line of victims, neatly arrayed, or of block after block of houses, only their outer walls standing, where all inside had perished. As the Harris debate rumbles on, the events of 1943 still resonate with present-day Hamburgers.

 

 

1249.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 01:19 pm

http://barkbarkwoofwoof.blogspot.com/Condi%20with%20a%20Whip%2012-12-05.gif

1250.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 01:41 pm

Anybody, pizza with frog leg?

ECO Offer Frog Leg Pizza Animal rights campaigners are furious with a London pizza restaurant that has launched the UK s first frogs legs pizza . Called The Hopper it costs £17.95 and comes with a traditional tomato and mozzarella base capers fresh dill and thyme with a scoop of anchovy sorbet which melts into the pizza as the diner nibbles around each leg. The pizzas creator described it as refined but critics have called barbaric and is the brainchild of Sami Wasif owner of the ECO firm of pizza restaurants which has branches in Chiswick and Clapham in London.

 

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/03715/03715101.jpg

1251.       mltm
3690 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 01:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

ECO Offer Frog Leg Pizza Animal rights campaigners are furious with a London pizza restaurant that has launched the UK s first frogs legs pizza .

 

 

 Why are animal rights campaigners furious about it? Do frogs have more rights than some other animals that are eaten in pizza?

1252.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 03:07 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 Why are animal rights campaigners furious about it? Do frogs have more rights than some other animals that are eaten in pizza?

 

 Yes I wondered the same. I wondered if the way the frogs legs are acquired maybe has something to do with it.. since frogs (or snails for that matter) are a regular eaten thing in many restaurants all over the world. I´ve never heard of it on pizza though.

1253.       mltm
3690 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 03:10 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 I wondered if the way the frogs legs are acquired maybe has something to do with it..

 

 It has not been explained in the article, but it might be. I have seen that they usually break the legs with one hand movement while the frog is still alive, however in the article it sounds as if they are furious just because of the fact that they are used on pizza.

1254.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 04:29 pm

Detaching a frog from it´s legs is not a pretty sight.  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/677593.stm  (nothing too nasty looking in the pic on this link). 

 

I once saw a documentary which showed a production line of leg removal from live frogs.  Workers sat on a chair with a vertical blade fixed in front of them.  They took each live frog and dragged it down the blade, thus relieving it of its legs .  The top half of the frogs were simply tossed away without a second thought.  The frogs were still alive, poor things.

1255.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 07:26 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

The frogs were still alive, poor things.

 

 In that case I understand. Why don´t they do it after they are dead? Or is it like the ýstakoz who are cooked alive just because then they have a brighter (not greyish) color {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} 

1256.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 08:03 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 In that case I understand. Why don´t they do it after they are dead? Or is it like the ýstakoz who are cooked alive just because then they have a brighter (not greyish) color {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} 

 

You might be right but how long do they need to wait until they are dead? how do you kill them anyway? by not feeding them?

It reminded me my mother..She could dont clean the fish for cooking..She would wait for 5 or 6 hours..

On the other hand..me...

1257.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Oct 2008 Fri 11:33 pm

 A new movie about Ataturk

http://www.mustafa.com.tr/

1258.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 12:04 am

I´ve got a long list of real good reasons
For all the things I´ve done
I´ve got a picture in the back of my mind
Of what I´ve lost and what I´ve won
I´ve survived every situation
Knowing when to freeze and when to run
And regret is just a memory written on my brow
And there´s nothing I can do about it now.

1259.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 04:01 pm

Ryan Air offering all flights for £10 until the end of the month! Yayyyyyyyyy !

(sorry they don´t go to Turkey).

 

Although there are taxes involved, the cost of say, a RETURN flight from London to Palma is £52.

 

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/

 

1260.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 04:11 pm

Pigs worship God of Materialism

If ever there was a god to prevent you from worshiping material things, it would be this one.

The hideous pig-like thing is the masterpiece by Chinese artist Chen Wenling called God Of Materialism.

 

Looking chuffed, the huge greedy pig has minions of other tiny, and just as unattractive and scary, pigs worshiping in awe at its heels.

 

The group stare up at their master, adorned with a plethora of jewels and necklaces representing the grotesque love of material things.

 

The sculpture, which looks like a bad dream, can be found at the Asia Art Centre in Beijing.

 

godmaterialism

 

A sculpture by Chen Wenling´s called "The God of Materialism" on display at an art gallery in Beijing fashionable 798 Art District.

 

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Pigs_worship_God_of_Materialism...

1261.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 04:13 pm

I cant open your link while I am at work, but I do hope you are not insulting pigs.... {#lang_emotions_get_you}

1262.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 04:19 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I cant open your link while I am at work, but I do hope you are not insulting pigs.... {#lang_emotions_get_you}

 

I copied the entire text of the news (you dont need to open it).

"insulting pigs" is  forbidden in TC (although I am not sure that news is insluting the pigs)?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1263.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 06:09 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The hideous pig-like thing ....the huge greedy pig .... and just as unattractive and scary...

 

 

 

 

TheH, this IS insulting to pigs!!!  This poor much maligned creature is already called "filthy" by muslims and now this!!!!

 

Grrrrrrrrrr we pastafarians adore pigs {#lang_emotions_owned}

1264.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 06:25 pm

Violence at West Bank olive harvest
Jewish settlers attacked several peace activists during the annual harvest in Hebron [Reuters]

Jewish settlers have been caught on camera punching and kicking two news photographers and a British woman who was helping Palestinians pick olives near a West Bank town.

The Israeli police responded to the situation on Saturday by stopping the harvest.

The scuffle near the town of Hebron was the latest in a series of incidents blamed on settlers trying to disrupt the annual harvest which provides a livelihood for many Palestinians.

The settlers claim the trees are on Israeli land and the harvest is illegal.

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/10/20081018123422346140.html

 

 

1265.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 06:38 pm

Bush officials ´endorsed torture´
Human rights groups say that waterboarding 
amounts to  torture [AFP]

The Bush administration endorsed the use of waterboarding against al-Qaeda suspects in secret memos to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Washington Post has reported.

The pair of classified memos, written in 2003 and 2004, were requested by George Tenet, former CIA chief, more than a year after secret interrogations got under way, the newspaper quoted administration and intelligence officials as saying.

The Post reported on Wednesday that the CIA required cover from the White House due to concerns of a possible backlash if details on harsh interrogation methods went public.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/10/200810156251394497.html

1266.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 06:47 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

TheH, this IS insulting to pigs!!!  This poor much maligned creature is already called "filthy" by muslims and now this!!!!

 

Grrrrrrrrrr we pastafarians adore pigs {#lang_emotions_owned}

 

lol lol lol lol

1267.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 08:39 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 A new movie about Ataturk

http://www.mustafa.com.tr/

 

I looked at that site and it started to play something... {#lang_emotions_confused}

1268.       lady in red
6947 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 09:45 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 A new movie about Ataturk

http://www.mustafa.com.tr/

Quoting catwoman

I looked at that site and it started to play something... {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 We call it a trailer in English - don´t be scared!   lol lol

1269.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Oct 2008 Sat 10:50 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

We call it a trailer in English - don´t be scared!   lol lol

 

 

{#lang_emotions_get_you}

1270.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Oct 2008 Sun 10:22 am

Wife who changed Facebook profile to ´single´ killed by hubby

Wayne Forrester, 34, told police he was devastated that his wife Emma, also 34, had changed her online profile to "single" days after he had moved out.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7676285.stm

http://tech.blorge.com/S.......simple-profile-change-on-facebook-lead-to-murder/

 

I am changing my profile straight away..

1271.       lesluv
722 posts
 19 Oct 2008 Sun 01:48 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Wife who changed Facebook profile to ´single´ killed by hubby

Wayne Forrester, 34, told police he was devastated that his wife Emma, also 34, had changed her online profile to "single" days after he had moved out.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7676285.stm

http://tech.blorge.com/S.......simple-profile-change-on-facebook-lead-to-murder/

 

I am changing my profile straight away..

 OMG privicy settings are going up high..........

 

this bloke was well known in our circle as  extremely aggressive!!! nutter

 

1272.       lesluv
722 posts
 19 Oct 2008 Sun 02:01 pm

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1826298.ece

A CHOCOLATE spread for SEX has been removed from shelves amid fears it is tainted with a toxic chemical.

Saucy couples were warned it could be contaminated with melamine — at the centre of a food scare in China.

A “willy spread” and “nipple spread” novelties were sold at Ann Summers stores.

Last night the High Street adult chain said it had withdrawn the “popular” spreads from its shelves, website and its parties held in people’s homes.

Industrial chemical melamine, which can cause kidney failure, sparked a major alert in China after it was found in milk products.

Contaminated milk has led to the death of four babies and caused 54,000 tots to fall ill.

 

 

god damn it got to throw it all away now mwahahaa

1273.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 19 Oct 2008 Sun 06:08 pm

An article about the "Sex on the Beach" couple who were sentenced to 3 months imprisonment in Dubai, who actually didn´t have sex but were "kissing and cuddling". 

 

My first thought was that they were very stupid to have done such a public thing in an Islamic country.  Having sex in a public place is also banned in the UK!  Even if they were just fooling around, you should respect the laws and customs of the country you visit.

 

However, the article reveals that 60% of tourists in Dubai are Saudi Arabians who go there to "let of steam".  Alcohol, prostitutes and even gay bars exist (and thrive) in Dubai and are frequented by the Saudis.  A Brit living in Dubai describes the weekends as "filled with drunk Saudi´s who go there to enjoy sex and alcohol".  

 

Dubai needs to make up it´s mind.  If it wants to continue to attract the wealthy tourists to it´s 7 star hotel tax free haven by relaxing its OWN moral codes, they can´t then patrol the beaches at night with torches searching for couples on sunbeds!!!

1274.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Oct 2008 Mon 08:42 am

I took one of those religious Arabs to the terrace bar of a hotel at his request years ago. He ordered a whisky asking about the girls around evidently enjoying the atmosphere. So far so good. Then he began criticizing Ataturk for stealing Turkey from Islam... He even come up with a reason for the series of economic crises Turkey were going through in the 80´s. He thought Turkey was being punished by God for straying whereas his own country was being rewarded by God for strictly observing the rules of the Quran. These guys have a very well tailored set of double standards, double meanings, equivocal rules and a thick buffer of superstitions. If they were only that way themselves, no one would care but they also make life difficult for people who do not want to be like that.

 

What is even more saddening is that this is a welcome situation for the West one of the greatest projects of which is creating nice behavin´, soft Islamic governments in the region (proven by their current policies). The biggest fear for the West is to see someone whether he/she be a dictator or a democratic leader take the reins of oil production selfishly reaping the commercial benefits of this hot commodity. That would be the violation of the unwritten rule that states: Every major resource in the world can only be controlled by a Western country.

 

Now Saudis have every reason to demand approval from the West for beheading sinners by the sword in public squares, and for maintaining a medieval regime bolstered by Western technology showing up as skyscrapers, majestic artificial islands bought by petrodollars. Because they keep singing Fat Wallers´ famous song: Ain´t Misbehavin´.

1275.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 20 Oct 2008 Mon 03:41 pm

Great post Vineyards

To my untrained eye, it would seem there is more honesty and integrity in the Turkish muslims´, rather more human, attitude to their religion, than the double standards and secrecy of Islamic states.

 

Unfortunately, your comments about the evil "west" are also true

1276.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 03:26 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

An article about the "Sex on the Beach" couple who were sentenced to 3 months imprisonment in Dubai, who actually didn´t have sex but were "kissing and cuddling". 

 

My first thought was that they were very stupid to have done such a public thing in an Islamic country.  Having sex in a public place is also banned in the UK!  Even if they were just fooling around, you should respect the laws and customs of the country you visit.

 

However, the article reveals that 60% of tourists in Dubai are Saudi Arabians who go there to "let of steam".  Alcohol, prostitutes and even gay bars exist (and thrive) in Dubai and are frequented by the Saudis.  A Brit living in Dubai describes the weekends as "filled with drunk Saudi´s who go there to enjoy sex and alcohol".  

 

Dubai needs to make up it´s mind.  If it wants to continue to attract the wealthy tourists to it´s 7 star hotel tax free haven by relaxing its OWN moral codes, they can´t then patrol the beaches at night with torches searching for couples on sunbeds!!!

 

 What is more, they had only met that night!

1277.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 03:29 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-coup-attempt-trial-thrown-into-chaos-967783.html

 

Reading the paper on my ill-fated journey this morning I came across this and I must admit, it made me smile.  How the hell do you get 86 defendents into one court and expect to get a result!! 

1278.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 09:05 pm

Right of bondage!!

..

Part of the Act will outlaw anything which might be considered "extreme pornography". This means that a Westwood book of erotic photographs will become illegal as of 1 January 2009, and anyone caught in possession of the work could theoretically receive a three-year jail sentence.

Today, Westwood, above, will begin his protest against the Bill with the help of a "chain gang" of models and activists from the Consenting Adult Action Network (CAAN) in what promises to be a lively demonstration. The models will be "bound and gagged" and dragged through the streets of central London.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/..-967685.html

 

He along with the campaigning Group believe that sections 64-67 of the criminal act which will make the possession of extreme pornography a criminal offence mean that innocent people who like to divulge in acts such as consentual bondage etc could receive a prison sentence up to three years.

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387510.jpghttp://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387512.jpg

 

How can you call this regime as democracy if people can not "bound, gag etc" themselves?

1279.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 09:10 pm

Kill all the Grey squirrels

Calling themselves the ´Red Squirrel Protection Partnership´ it is the mission of Lord Redesdale and his unit to kill all the Grey squirrels in the Northumberland area in order to protect the Native Red Squirrel.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95495/95495420.jpg

grey squirrel stew:

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95495/95495431.jpg    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95495/95495421.jpg    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/95495/95495423.jpg

 

-------------------------------

 

Duck Feeds Fish

A female mandarin duck feeds the fish with kernel in Humble Administrators Garden in Suzhou east Chinas Jiangsu province in China..

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/03715/03715687.jpg

 

 

1280.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 09:24 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Kill all the Grey squirrels

Calling themselves the ´Red Squirrel Protection Partnership´ it is the mission of Lord Redesdale and his unit to kill all the Grey squirrels in the Northumberland area in order to protect the Native Red Squirrel.

 

My home, the Isle of Wight, is the only place in the UK that has NO grey squirrels.  The red squirrels are becoming a tourist attraction in themselves

 

http://www.wightsquirrels.co.uk/

 

However, I think the photo using a squirrel as a glove puppet is sick.  Animals deserve dignity when they are dead, the same as any creature

 

1281.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 11:28 pm

do they eat squirrels?{#lang_emotions_puking}  then what is the point of all the fuss about the Chinese` eating cats and dogs?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1282.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 11:42 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

do they eat squirrels?{#lang_emotions_puking}  then what is the point of all the fuss about the Chinese` eating cats and dogs?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 I agree actually!  If you want to eat meat (I dont!) then you should be prepared to eat a cat or squirrel as well as a cow or sheep!

1283.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 11:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Kill all the Grey squirrels

Calling themselves the ´Red Squirrel Protection Partnership´ it is the mission of Lord Redesdale and his unit to kill all the Grey squirrels in the Northumberland area in order to protect the Native Red Squirrel.

 

Actually could you delete these photos please.  I find them even more offensive than swearing

1284.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 11:51 pm

 

 

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I agree actually! If you want to eat meat (I dont!) then you should be prepared to eat a cat or squirrel as well as a cow or sheep!

 

and perhaps even nastier things like this{#lang_emotions_puking}

 

http://www.trosch.org/lif/baby-eat.html

 

http://flickr.com/photos/debbiecbs/28093743/

 

 

1285.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 11:53 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

and perhaps even nastier things like this{#lang_emotions_puking}

 

http://www.trosch.org/lif/baby-eat.html

 

http://flickr.com/photos/debbiecbs/28093743/

 

 Please stop this

1286.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 11:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Please stop this

 

I think it`s a hoax anyway

1287.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:12 pm

Bomber Harris, WW II, operation Gomorrah, Hamburg´s Inferno

 

Inferno: The Devastation of Hamburg 1943

by Keith Lowe

 

´Bomber´ Harris or ´Butcher´ Harris? Keith Lowe, author of Inferno, an exemplary analysis of the week-long bombing of Hamburg which killed more than 40,000 in 1943, masterminded by Air Chief Marshall Arthur Harris, comes no closer to settling the argument of whether he was hero or villain. Harris´s detractors will argue that he had no notion of the hell he visited on the civilian population of Germany, if, indeed, he actually cared. His defenders will claim that cowing a civilian population was as important as destroying war factories responsible for all methods of destruction, whether shells or U-boats, as was the case in Hamburg.

While the bombing of Dresden in 1945 still - and rightly - occasions debate on the necessity or otherwise of total war, the bombing of Hamburg two years earlier is of equal importance, if less discussed. It is to Lowe´s credit that he uses material both from members of the RAF and the American air force and those on the receiving end of one of the Second Word War´s most determined aerial bombardments to present a picture of atrocious human suffering, without seeking to be judgmental.

The most poignant stories come in asides. A small boy, removed from Hamburg when the rest of his family has died, is stopped by an official in the town to which he has been exiled and is asked what is in his two bags: one contains the remains of his pet rabbit, the other the reduced and charred remains of his sister. Other survivors tell of victims of the firestorm becoming human torches as they sought to escape the blistering heat.

Nothing quite prepares you for the photographs of line after line of victims, neatly arrayed, or of block after block of houses, only their outer walls standing, where all inside had perished. As the Harris debate rumbles on, the events of 1943 still resonate with present-day Hamburgers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/mar/04/historybooks.features1

 

1288.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:23 pm

duplicate post!

1289.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:46 pm

Ros - if you don´t mind me saying this article is very biased!  Can I remind you that we were at war with Germany, and equal devastation was caused to London (and Coventry (among many).  The town of Coventry was literally flattened.

 

In addition, German historians recently announced that the actual number of deaths from the bombings in Dresden was was 25,000 and NOT 250,000 which they claimed at the time.   Because of this falsehood, the bombing of Dresden was condemned as a war crime after the war.  In actual fact it was nothing compared to the deaths from bombings in the UK.

 

War is horrible, for both sides.  My grandmother well remembers being machined gunned by German fighter planes whilst with her schoolfriends, walking to school and being told to lay flat on the ground until it was over.

 

I am not saying that those Allied bombings of German are not horrible.  I just think that posting such an article, out of context, gives completely the wrong impression.  Ask France, ask Poland, ask England, ask Holland, ask all the affected countries - they will all have similar stories.

1290.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 11:01 pm

our country really a paradise for all sort speculators...

1291.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 11:02 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

our country really a paradise for all sort speculators...

 

 Absolutely. But less so if you were not in it.....

1292.       MrX67
2540 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 11:04 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Absolutely. But less so if you were not in it.....

 

 sorry?

1293.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 11:57 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

our country really a paradise for all sort speculators...

 

 speculators or spectators??  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1294.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 02:27 am

 

 

 

 

 

1295.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 02:32 am

Der SPIEGEL 40/2008

 

Der Spiegel Cover: "The Price of Arrogance: An Economic Crisis Changes the World" (Demeaning the Statue of Liberty

 

1296.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 03:10 am

delightful

 Bayram günü  ve Istanbul ah 

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://galeri.netfotograf.com/images/profil/69736.jpg&imgrefurl=http://galeri.netfotograf.com/portfolyo.asp%3Fnf%3D69736&h=160&w=148&sz=6&hl=en&start=3&um=1&usg=__QTc5NO0yA7ipywxFRR9UFwRJKtg=&tbnid=8TRoLIrFSANa3M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmehmet%2Bakar%2Bevrin%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den

1297.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 09:18 am

american mother takes her daughter to a fight!

 

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mom-takes-daughter-to-a-fight/971585163/?icid=VIDLRVNWS06

1298.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 09:25 am

All these new people here seemingly demanding to be in the new beginner groups.  I wonder how many of them are actually trying to learn while waiting.  And where did they all come from? {#lang_emotions_unsure} 

If the classes are limited, I hope preference will be given to those who want to join that have been here and contributed to the site for a while.

1299.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 10:34 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

All these new people here seemingly demanding to be in the new beginner groups.  I wonder how many of them are actually trying to learn while waiting.  And where did they all come from? {#lang_emotions_unsure} 

If the classes are limited, I hope preference will be given to those who want to join that have been here and contributed to the site for a while.

 

I agree upto certain extend but at the same time applicants who have been here for a long time and contributed to the site but did not learn more than ´evet, hayir´, should be considered as ´hopeless case´ {#lang_emotions_razz}

1300.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I agree upto certain extend but at the same time applicants who have been here for a long time and contributed to the site but did not learn more than ´evet, hayir´, should be considered as ´hopeless case´ {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 

 

Ama....nobody wants to teach me!

I dunno why....

1301.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:16 pm

Roswitha´s incredibly long link which threw the page out of alignment so much I couldn´t even see the ´Post Reply´!

1302.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 01:03 pm

spider eats bird

The snaps of this giant Golden Orb Weaver devouring a Mannikin were taken in the garden of a house in Cairns, Australia earlier this week.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387611.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387612.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387613.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387614.jpg

1303.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 02:11 pm

1000mph Car....

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7685049.stm

 

I needed this car this morning to get me to work on time

1304.       mltm
3690 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 03:05 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

spider eats bird

The snaps of this giant Golden Orb Weaver devouring a Mannikin were taken in the garden of a house in Cairns, Australia earlier this week.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387611.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387612.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387613.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387614.jpg

 

Ohh, this scene looks horrible, but it is a part of the nature. Now, I see again that there are so many different types of spiders.

It made me think of my spider that I have in the corner of my room since nearly 1,5 months. I have been observing and letting him accommodate in my room. It´s a nice experience to see what he does when a fly is trapped in his net and I observed that he can live without eating for weeks.

1305.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 03:16 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 It´s a nice experience to see what he does when a fly is trapped in his net and I observed that he can live without eating for weeks.

 

 You do worry me ........

1306.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 08:49 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Roswitha´s incredibly long link which threw the page out of alignment so much I couldn´t even see the ´Post Reply´!

 

 Offffffff that is irritating!  Can´t you fix that with your super mod powers? {#lang_emotions_ninja} 

1307.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 08:50 pm

 

 Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

1308.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Oct 2008 Sun 06:02 am

20 years prison sentence for an Afghan man convicted of blasphemy for criticizing women´s rights under Islam -- reduced from a death sentence! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_puking}

1309.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 26 Oct 2008 Sun 06:36 am

 

Quoting catwoman

20 years prison sentence for an Afghan man convicted of blasphemy for criticizing women´s rights under Islam -- reduced from a death sentence! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_puking}

 

I agree, there is still this medieval death sentence in some countries.

1310.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 01:32 am

They fascinate me:

Aþiyan (birdhouse) by mihman`.

 

1311.       zettea
160 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 02:41 am

The email i got this morning..


Amazing results using yet another medium for exercising ones
creativity.... PAPER
Entries for an art contest at the Hirshhorn Modern Art Gallery in DC
The rule was that the artist could use only ONEsheet of paper.


Here are two of the many creations..




 

1312.       ciko
784 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 11:48 am

MrX67 is back {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

1313.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 11:49 am

 

Quoting ciko

MrX67 is back {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

 

 Ciko is back {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

1314.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 04:22 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Ciko is back {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

 

Aenigma is back {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

1315.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 04:32 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Aenigma is back {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

 

 Did she ever REALLY leave??{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1316.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 04:40 pm

Larkana: One Rahim bux kills one hour ago born baby in the name of honour declaring him an illegal kid of his wife.

Rahim bux says it isn’t a shame and disgrace for him to kill the baby because he THINKS the baby is the result of illicit relations of his wife with a man from the village.

The mother’s life is at risk from the barbaric man who used an axe to thrash the baby and soak him up in blood just an hour after he was born.

1317.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 04:45 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Larkana: One Rahim bux kills one hour ago born baby in the name of honour declaring him an illegal kid of his wife.

Rahim bux says it isn’t a shame and disgrace for him to kill the baby because he THINKS the baby is the result of illicit relations of his wife with a man from the village.

The mother’s life is at risk from the barbaric man who used an axe to thrash the baby and soak him up in blood just an hour after he was born.

 

 That is horrible.{#lang_emotions_sad}

1318.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 06:34 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 That is horrible.{#lang_emotions_sad}

 

 oh that must be bloody christian (perhaps american). why do they kill babies?

1319.       Trudy
7887 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 06:36 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Larkana: One Rahim bux kills one hour ago born baby in the name of honour declaring him an illegal kid of his wife.

Rahim bux says it isn’t a shame and disgrace for him to kill the baby because he THINKS the baby is the result of illicit relations of his wife with a man from the village.

The mother’s life is at risk from the barbaric man who used an axe to thrash the baby and soak him up in blood just an hour after he was born.

 

 That guy is nuts! Should be locked up very far away forever!

1320.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 06:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Ros - if you don´t mind me saying this article is very biased!  Can I remind you that we were at war with Germany, and equal devastation was caused to London (and Coventry (among many).  The town of Coventry was literally flattened.

 

In addition, German historians recently announced that the actual number of deaths from the bombings in Dresden was was 25,000 and NOT 250,000 which they claimed at the time.   Because of this falsehood, the bombing of Dresden was condemned as a war crime after the war.  In actual fact it was nothing compared to the deaths from bombings in the UK.

 

War is horrible, for both sides.  My grandmother well remembers being machined gunned by German fighter planes whilst with her schoolfriends, walking to school and being told to lay flat on the ground until it was over.

 

I am not saying that those Allied bombings of German are not horrible.  I just think that posting such an article, out of context, gives completely the wrong impression.  Ask France, ask Poland, ask England, ask Holland, ask all the affected countries - they will all have similar stories.

 

 it was only Britain´s own fault. If Britain has acted on time there wouldn´t be such a horror called WWII, at least for 3 years Britons ignored all messages from the war. It was a punishment UK earned for letting Germany murder millions and millions.

1321.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 06:58 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 it was only Britain´s own fault. If Britain has acted on time there wouldn´t be such a horror called WWII, at least for 3 years Britons ignored all messages from the war. It was a punishment UK earned for letting Germany murder millions and millions.

 

 You should read your history books sour lemon - maybe you mean the US? lol

However, I am flattered that you joined for the sole purpose of disagreeing with my posts.  Look forward to a good debate with you

1322.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 07:12 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 You should read your history books sour lemon - maybe you mean the US? lol

However, I am flattered that you joined for the sole purpose of disagreeing with my posts.  Look forward to a good debate with you

 

 When did Britain declare war to Germany? And when did it join the war?

Let us leave US alone. They were too far away to be bombed.

1323.       geniuda
1070 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 08:49 pm

"thehandsomE" user checking Pedaliza´s profile {#lang_emotions_scared} (or whatever is left from his/her profile)

1324.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 08:52 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

"thehandsomE" user checking Pedaliza´s profile {#lang_emotions_scared} (or whatever is left from his/her profile)

 

 lol lol lol

1325.       Temora
132 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 09:27 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

"thehandsomE" user checking Pedaliza´s profile {#lang_emotions_scared} (or whatever is left from his/her profile)

 

 spying on TC members{#lang_emotions_ninja}and informing the others,tyt,tyt,tyt......ayip....

1326.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 09:54 pm

Painting of Edirne: Selimiye Camii. I was there not too long ago.

 

1327.       geniuda
1070 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 09:55 pm

 

Quoting Temora

 spying on TC members{#lang_emotions_ninja}and informing the others,tyt,tyt,tyt......ayip....

 

ABSOLUTELY !! {#lang_emotions_flowers}  

 

1328.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Oct 2008 Mon 10:22 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 That guy is nuts! Should be locked up very far away forever!

 

justice is a luxury. i bet this guy is waiting for a reward in heaven for his "thoughtful" act.

1329.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 12:31 am

 

Quoting Temora

 spying on TC members{#lang_emotions_ninja}and informing the others,tyt,tyt,tyt......ayip....

 

 This kind of thing is against BSB rules

1330.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 12:46 am

Temora, Wind and tamikik tamikidakki  JustTwoMinutes must have gone to the 70s/80s party too

This is disloyal of my bros

 

 

1331.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 01:42 am

Manuela Carrasco

1332.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 02:25 am

Iran refurbishes Soltanieh Dome

 

Iranian experts have finished the restoration of the country´s 700-year-old Soltanieh Dome, located in the western province of Zanjan.

Iran´s Cultural Heritage, Handicrafts, and Tourism Organization (ICHTO) refurbished the brick structure´s exterior with azure tiles made in traditional kilns over a four-year period.
“Some 100,000 tiles were used to restore the structure, all of which were produced in the area,” said head of the restoration project, Mohammad Reza Qorbanzadeh.

“Experts will also use strengthening material to protect the tiles from the area´s cold and windy climate,” he added.

Soltanieh Dome, built during the Ilkhanid era, was the world´s tallest building of its time and currently ranks third after Italy´s Saint Mary church in Florence and Turkey´s Aya Sofia Mosque in Istanbul.

The 200-ton structure was registered as a UNESCO World Heritage site in 2006 after the Naqsh-e-Jahan square, Persepolis, Chogha Zanbil Ziggurat, Takht-e-Soleiman, Pasargadae, and Bam citadel.

Press TV

1333.       lesluv
722 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 03:11 am

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Savin´ a life


STUDENT doctors have found an amazing aid to prevent patients with heart failure from dying — the Bee Gees classic Stayin’ Alive.


The Seventies tune bounces along at 103 beats per minute, almost the perfect rhythm to use during CPR, when hand pressure is applied on the chest to keep blood-flow going.


Now young doctors are training for the technique while listening to the Gibb brothers’ disco classic on their iPods.


They are told to time chest compressions to the beat and have averaged 109 per minute.


Later, the students from the University of Illinois are made to perform the same drill without the Saturday Night Fever music but are told to think of the hit while doing the chest pumps.


Study author Dr David Matlock said: “The song motivates them to keep up the rate, which is the most important thing.”


He said Stayin’ Alive was effective because it was so catchy and lodged itself in your head


CPR can triple heart attack survival rates when properly performed but many people hesitate about using it because they are not sure about keeping the proper rhythm.


But American Heart Association spokesman Dr Vinay Nadkarni said: “The Bee Gees just hit upon this natural rhythm that was very catchy, very popular and that helps us do the right thing.”


 


 

1334.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 08:23 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Savin´ a life

STUDENT doctors have found an amazing aid to prevent patients with heart failure from dying — the Bee Gees classic Stayin’ Alive.

The Seventies tune bounces along at 103 beats per minute, almost the perfect rhythm to use during CPR, when hand pressure is applied on the chest to keep blood-flow going.

Now young doctors are training for the technique while listening to the Gibb brothers’ disco classic on their iPods.

They are told to time chest compressions to the beat and have averaged 109 per minute.

Later, the students from the University of Illinois are made to perform the same drill without the Saturday Night Fever music but are told to think of the hit while doing the chest pumps.

Study author Dr David Matlock said: “The song motivates them to keep up the rate, which is the most important thing.”

He said Stayin’ Alive was effective because it was so catchy and lodged itself in your head

CPR can triple heart attack survival rates when properly performed but many people hesitate about using it because they are not sure about keeping the proper rhythm.

But American Heart Association spokesman Dr Vinay Nadkarni said: “The Bee Gees just hit upon this natural rhythm that was very catchy, very popular and that helps us do the right thing.”

 

 

 

 This is hilarious!  I can imagine our ER blasting this song during a code so that everyone can keep a proper rhythym! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1335.       karekin04
565 posts
 28 Oct 2008 Tue 08:37 pm

1. BALLS TO IT
sonunda: Certainly works for my rear end!!

that caught my eye today!{#lang_emotions_lol}

1336.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:04 pm

SNOW! No, not the tc member from the Weather Boys or Captain Planet Gang. Bakin:

 

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/10/29/andala/f_1000406m_a4ec1f5.jpg

1337.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:07 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

SNOW! No, not the tc member from the Weather Boys or Captain Planet Gang. Bakin:

 

Lucky you

No snow on the Island yet

1338.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:31 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Lucky you

No snow on the Island yet

 

 Snow Only for 2 days with Christmas please!

1339.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 02:53 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Lucky you

No snow on the Island yet

Must be TheHandsom´s revenge. It snowed in Wales yesterday, today it moved west to MY Island (Ireland). I guess yours down south is safe for now (he´ll be aiming at Elisabeth now as he still has no laptop)

1340.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 03:30 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 Snow Only for 2 days with Christmas please!

 

you crack me up!!! lol lol lol

 

it is snowing here as well and I don´t have any winter shoes!!! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

1341.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 03:33 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

you crack me up!!! lol lol lol

 

it is snowing here as well and I don´t have any winter shoes!!! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

 I was in your area last week, thank god I´m not up there today.  Please keep the snow north..oh and it´s time to hang up your flip flops...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1342.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 03:37 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Please keep the snow north..

 

I will do my best to send it all south

1343.       geniuda
1070 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 05:56 pm

{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} 

Quoting catwoman

I will do my best to send it all south

 

 Just don´t send to California PLEASE !!! we are perfectly fine like this {#lang_emotions_cool}

1344.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 05:59 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} 

 

 Just don´t send to California PLEASE !!! we are perfectly fine like this {#lang_emotions_cool}

 

 And don´t send it to West-Europe as well!!

 

Request to someone from really south: send some sun please, it´s too cold here!

1345.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 01:04 am

Our Vanishing Night

Most city skies have become virtually empty of stars

 

 

 

If humans were truly at home under the light of the moon and stars, we would go in darkness happily, the midnight world as visible to us as it is to the vast number of nocturnal species on this planet. Instead, we are diurnal creatures, with eyes adapted to living in the sun´s light. This is a basic evolutionary fact, even though most of us don´t think of ourselves as diurnal beings any more than we think of ourselves as primates or mammals or Earthlings. Yet it´s the only way to explain what we´ve done to the night: We´ve engineered it to receive us by filling it with light.

This kind of engineering is no different than damming a river. Its benefits come with consequences—called light pollution—whose effects scientists are only now beginning to study. Light pollution is largely the result of bad lighting design, which allows artificial light to shine outward and upward into the sky, where it´s not wanted, instead of focusing it downward, where it is. Ill-designed lighting washes out the darkness of night and radically alters the light levels—and light rhythms—to which many forms of life, including ourselves, have adapted. Wherever human light spills into the natural world, some aspect of life—migration, reproduction, feeding—is affected.

For most of human history, the phrase "light pollution" would have made no sense. Imagine walking toward London on a moonlit night around 1800, when it was Earth´s most populous city. Nearly a million people lived there, making do, as they always had, with candles and rushlights and torches and lanterns. Only a few houses were lit by gas, and there would be no public gaslights in the streets or squares for another seven years. From a few miles away, you would have been as likely to smell London as to see its dim collective glow.

Now most of humanity lives under intersecting domes of reflected, refracted light, of scattering rays from overlit cities and suburbs, from light-flooded highways and factories. Nearly all of nighttime Europe is a nebula of light, as is most of the United States and all of Japan. In the south Atlantic the glow from a single fishing fleet—squid fishermen luring their prey with metal halide lamps—can be seen from space, burning brighter, in fact, than Buenos Aires or Rio de Janeiro

1346.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 06:39 pm

Leelu hasn´t been at this site for awhile.  I was hoping to hear the third part of her essay.{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1347.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 07:49 pm

A certain nick......maybe I should be "PastafarianAndProud" next....

1348.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 07:52 pm

On the translation forum.....Darling..I will delete all the pics of you and me so your wife doesn´t get angry!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  

1349.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 07:53 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

On the translation forum.....Darling..I will delete all the pics of you and me so your wife doesn´t get angry!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  

 

 {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

But I thought theH could speak English?

1350.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 07:55 pm

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

Quoting Elisabeth

On the translation forum.....Darling..I will delete all the pics of you and me so your wife doesn´t get angry!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  

 

unbelievable!!!!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}{#lang_emotions_noway}

1351.       Trudy
7887 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 07:59 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

On the translation forum.....Darling..I will delete all the pics of you and me so your wife doesn´t get angry!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  

 

 Is this what they call ´doing anything for love´? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1352.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 08:14 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Is this what they call ´doing anything for love´? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 LIR´s comment on the post are priceless!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1353.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 08:22 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

SNOW! No, not the tc member from the Weather Boys or Captain Planet Gang. Bakin:

 

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/10/29/andala/f_1000406m_a4ec1f5.jpg

 

LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY YOU!!!!! I miss snow all were getting here is chilly weather and dusty rain! I swear to god the rain is dusty! Its been rainign alot lol, it rained while we were having break ion school, and it was awesome! we decided since we were all wet, why not become even more wet? So we got watre bottles and we made holes in them and had this like water fight lol, but the boys were crazy! Theyd open the cap and then por the whole thinmg over you!!!!!!! lol! It looked like we all just had a shower! And what can i say about our hair, just maybe oh la la!

1354.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 08:27 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

I swear to god

 

I think we all believe you doudi even if you dont swear to God {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  (....at least I DO {#lang_emotions_razz}  )

1355.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 08:33 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

I think we all believe you doudi even if you dont swear to God {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  (....at least I DO {#lang_emotions_razz}  )

 

its a habit, lol, when youre speaking arabic half of what youre sayign is wallah or walahi, we use it more like really, or like when youre convincing somebody, but my mom says the same thing, shes like stop that, I BELIEVE YOU!

But i dont really know how to treansalte them except in to like maybe the closest thing in english is i swear, but it literally means, by my god or adn od, but nobody takes it that way, while speaking it equals really I blab too much right?I should really stop!

1356.       amnariel
138 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 09:54 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

I blab too much right?I should really stop!

 

noooooooooooooooo don´t

My eye today cought amazing amount of your loling

so cute ! lol lol lol

1357.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 10:22 pm

 

Quoting amnariel

noooooooooooooooo don´t

My eye today cought amazing amount of your loling

so cute ! lol lol lol

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! you know lol is now a basic word in my dictionary! Even in rel life lol, i swear i just go "lol", and last eyar, id always et in trouble with 2 other of my friends, just to piss the tearcher off, id say "l" and shed say o and then nouran would say the last l, lol, it was sooo funny! But its so much easier to say it then to actually lauhg!, What if i dont feel like laughng but its funny? Just go lol

 

lol

1358.       amnariel
138 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 10:28 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! you know lol is now a basic word in my dictionary! Even in rel life lol, i swear i just go "lol", and last eyar, id always et in trouble with 2 other of my friends, just to piss the tearcher off, id say "l" and shed say o and then nouran would say the last l, lol, it was sooo funny! But its so much easier to say it then to actually lauhg!, What if i dont feel like laughng but its funny? Just go lol

 

lol

 

 lol

1359.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 12:16 pm

Doudi - please. Don´t change! You always make my day {#lang_emotions_flowers} lol

1360.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 10:17 am

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1876715.ece 

 

Gentlemen, be careful..... lol

1361.       lesluv
722 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 03:05 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1876715.ece 

 

Gentlemen, be careful..... lol

 

 oh that poor man...... i wonder how his epitath would read! 

1362.       MrX67
2540 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 04:54 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1876715.ece 

 

Gentlemen, be careful..... lol

 

 theres a saying in Turkish  ´´Atýn ölümü arpadan olsun´´

1363.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 06:39 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

 theres a saying in Turkish  ´´Atýn ölümü arpadan olsun´´

 

 And that means?

1364.       lady in red
6947 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 07:10 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

 theres a saying in Turkish  ´´Atýn ölümü arpadan olsun´´

 

Quoting Trudy

 And that means?

 

 Probably something like ´Be careful what you do because you may die while you are doing it and then everyone will find out´!  lol lol

1365.       lesluv
722 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 07:51 pm

very sound advice!!  ha ha{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1366.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 07:54 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 oh that poor man...... i wonder how his epitath would read! 

 

 I died a happy man!

1367.       lesluv
722 posts
 01 Nov 2008 Sat 07:56 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 I died a happy man!

 

 {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1368.       bydand
755 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 12:46 pm

Fenerbahçe blow it again against ten men to stay in the lower regions of the league. {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1369.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:05 pm

Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship!  Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver.  The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.

1370.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:08 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship!  Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver.  The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.

 

 {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}{#lang_emotions_ty_ty}{#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

1371.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:10 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship!  Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver.  The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.

 

 What does it have to do with his being black?

 

And he was sooo lucky that german pilot slowed down

 

and i got some sad to see the cries of massa...

1372.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:13 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 What does it have to do with his being black?

 

 Only that he IS the first black winner.  And it was his ambition to become "the first black" to do it. 

 

If you read LL´s comment in another way, maybe it is you who is racist....

1373.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:18 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Only that he IS the first black winner.  And it was his ambition to become "the first black" to do it. 

 

Your reference to "massa" is outrageous!

 

If you read LL´s comment in another way, maybe it is you who is racist....

 Offff

 

If he won yeah because he was good driver, and i think he is not that good driver that he was gonna lose the race at last tour

 

I didnt watch whole season this year... i didnt even say massa deserved

 

there is no racism you little lady... and i wasnt refering libralady is racist aswell... dont twist my words... this is race, needs skills not the skin color

 

1374.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:20 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 Offff

 

If he won yeah because he was good driver, and i think he is not that good driver that he was gonna lose the race at last tour

 

I didnt watch whole season this year... i didnt even say massa deserved

 

there is no racism you little lady... and i wasnt refering libralady is racist aswell... dont twist my words... this is race, needs skills not the skin color

 

 You are taking this all out of perspective Sui.  Of course he is a good driver!!!! We are saying he is first black winner because that was HIS AMBITION (his words).

 

Calm down!

1375.       Temora
132 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:23 pm

do you think adm and mods can introduce such methods to force new and old members to learn{#lang_emotions_razz}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEDoL_PFg6U

 

 

1376.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:24 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 You are taking this all out of perspective Sui.  Of course he is a good driver!!!! We are saying he is first black winner because that was HIS AMBITION (his words).

 

Calm down!

 

 

there is no situation to be calmed down... because i am sooooo calm that enjoying the victory of galatasaray

 

But for me he was lucky this race, rather than being a good pilot otherwise i would see him on podium and grabbing the cup but congragulations to him that for being youngest champ!

 

by the way... the perspective is changing because of you its who mentioned "racism"

1377.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 10:26 pm

 

Quoting Temora

do you think adm and mods can introduce such methods to force new and old members to learn{#lang_emotions_razz}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEDoL_PFg6U

 

 OMG

Am signing up for Beginners Class right now!

1378.       lesluv
722 posts
 02 Nov 2008 Sun 11:01 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship!  Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver.  The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.

 

 how exciting was that...... but how gutting for Massa did feel a little sorry for him!!

1379.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 12:20 am

thehandsom under sui !!!!!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_noway}{#lang_emotions_puking}

1380.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 01:47 am

 

 

For those who like to dive:

 

http://www.ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/weblog.php?/weblog/comments/6130

1381.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 11:23 am

 

Quoting libralady

Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship!  Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver.  The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.

 

 And here´s hoping it´s the first of many for Lewis. {#lang_emotions_flowers}

1382.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 01:17 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 And here´s hoping it´s the first of many for Lewis. {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

 the only problem with winning so young is that where does he set his goals to now. will he have the same passion for it or will he take on the "been there...done it "sort of attitude

 

 

1383.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 01:27 pm

oops{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1384.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 02:25 pm

London to Brighton Veteran Car Run, Westminster Bridge, London, 2nd November 2008.

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95956/95956470.jpg      http://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95956/95956463.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387958.jpg

1385.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 02:31 pm

 

ooh very mary poppins

1386.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 04:21 pm

Glue prank man freed from toilet

Doctors rescue man from glued on toilet, but cannot save his embarrassment

A man has been taken to hospital stuck to a public toilet after a prankster covered the seat with glue.

The stainless steel lavatory was removed from a cubicle in Brierley Hill, near Dudley, with the man still attached, after the best efforts of emergency services failed to free him, said West Midlands Ambulance Service.

An ambulance service spokesman explained: "The man was using the facilities when he became stuck on the seat. It appears as though someone had left glue on it.

"Despite best efforts it was not possible to remove the 35-year-old local man from his position so, with the help of a local authority and the fire and rescue service, the man was removed from the cubicle still attached to the stainless steel toilet."

He was taken to hospital where a doctor used special chemicals to free him unhurt, if red-faced, while still inside the ambulance.

"He appeared to be none the worse for his ordeal other than being understandably somewhat embarrassed," the spokesman said.

The toilet, meanwhile, was returned to the public conveniences.

 

 

 

 

 

OMG how embarrassing......I would have touble keeping a straight face if I had to deal with this mwahahaha

1387.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 05:01 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

London to Brighton Veteran Car Run, Westminster Bridge, London, 2nd November 2008.

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95956/95956470.jpg      http://images3.image-data.com/images/122/thumbs/95956/95956463.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95387/95387958.jpg

 

Oh I used to love watching this as a child/teenager!  A friend´s father used to enter his car every year.

1388.       geniuda
1070 posts
 03 Nov 2008 Mon 10:40 pm

Air Cars?? {#lang_emotions_wtf} 

they look more like Disneyland cars {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 

Air1.gifAir2.gif

A new carmaker has a plan for cheap, environmentally friendly cars to be built all over the country

An air-powered car? It may be available sooner than you think at a price tag that will hardly be a budget buster. The vehicle may not run like a speed racer on back road highways, but developer Zero Pollution Motors is betting consumers will be willing to fork over $20,000 for a vehicle that can motor around all day on nothing but air and a splash of salad oil, alcohol or possibly a pint of gasoline  ....

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/106040/Air-Cars:-A-New-Wind-for-America´s-Roads

1389.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 01:00 am

Have a look at Gianlorenzo Bernini´s antique marbel statue of the sleeping HERMAPHRODITOS in the Louvre in Paris. Half woman, half man.

http://flickr.com/photos/magusita/2489583872/

 

Hermaphroditos Asleep Roman work of the Imperial period
 

 

 

1390.       lesluv
722 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 04:46 am

http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html

 

 

will be using my handsfree ALL the time now!!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

1391.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:06 am

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html

 

 

will be using my handsfree ALL the time now!!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 That is very scarey!!!  {#lang_emotions_scared}- explains some people I know though!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

1392.       cybernetics
753 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 01:24 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html

 

 

will be using my handsfree ALL the time now!!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 maybe one day our brains will explode like these corn seeds woww.....

 

 

1393.       lesluv
722 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 04:14 pm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KyE2rzuQRR4&feature=related

 

{#lang_emotions_smile} oooops obviously not funny if you are the guy on the stretcher hee hee

1394.       Trudy
7887 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 05:58 pm

Japan´s Obama town sets to party for US namesake


Dancing, singing and playing the guitar, residents in the sleepy Japanese fishing port of Obama are readying to party for Barack Obama before Tuesday’s US presidential election. Around 50 men, women and children wearing “I Love Obama” T-shirts practiced hula dancing over the weekend for the Honolulu-born Democratic candidate, hoping he will win the vote and one day visit the town as US president. “I’m 85 percent confident that Obama will win,” said hotel owner Seiji Fujiwara, who heads a group backing Obama in hopes that the town, with a population of 32,000, can share his fame and attract more visitors. “I think he’ll be alright.” Shops in the town have been selling everything from T-shirts, fish burgers and steamed cakes to chopsticks bearing Obama’s name. “We’ve been dancing for Mr. Obama for more than six months,” said Yuko Shirayama of the local “Obama Girls” hula dancing group, created to cheer on Obama. “So I hope he wins.” Her group traveled to Hawaii to celebrate Obama’s victory over Hillary Clinton in the Democratic nomination for US president earlier this year and the dancers hope to go to Obama’s inauguration ceremony if he wins. “If Mr. Obama becomes president and gets a chance to visit Japan, we would like him to visit our city,” Mayor Kouji Matsuzaki told Reuters.



Source: http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=157755

1395.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 06:47 pm

The length of the lines at the voting poles! 

1396.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 06:54 pm

Is it constitutional to close the voting places before midnight? Does it make anybody wonder why today is not made a national holiday so that people are able to vote?

1397.       doudi94
845 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 08:36 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html

 

 

will be using my handsfree ALL the time now!!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

 

HAHAHAHHAH!LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! I feel sorry for teh guy who bet 50 dollars that it wouldnt work!!! ILl try this really really soon! (maybe before a movie )

1398.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:01 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Is it constitutional to close the voting places before midnight? Does it make anybody wonder why today is not made a national holiday so that people are able to vote?

 

 Work places are required by law to accomodate workers who vote, thus, the need to make it a holiday is unneccessary (at least that is what they say). 

1399.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:05 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Work places are required by law to accomodate workers who vote, thus, the need to make it a holiday is unneccessary (at least that is what they say). 

 

ok... inþallah still it´s weird... I think.

1400.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:18 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

ok... inþallah still it´s weird... I think.

 

 I agree.....especially if you work in healthcare and work 12 hour shifts.....7a to 7p.....hahaha....guess when most poles are open.....7a to 7p......so much for healthcare workers voting!  I think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place!  I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work!  I would have to drive all the way back to my town!  {#lang_emotions_rant}

1401.       teaschip
3870 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:26 pm

Quote:

think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place!  I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work!  I would have to drive all the way back to my town!  {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 

Lis, you probably didn´t even need to leave your house and someone would have already voted for you or even voted twice...that´s what´s happening in my state.{#lang_emotions_puking}

1402.       doudi94
845 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:35 pm

The name of thýs gropu ýs soooo funny! I wýsh ý knew what they were sayýng ý the posts too ehehheeeeehe

http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=sarho%C5%9F&n=-1&k=200000010&sf=r&init=q&sid=0433357bb42d63c31668b7c22b5ae40e#/group.php?sid=0433357bb42d63c31668b7c22b5ae40e&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fq%3Dsarho%25C5%259F%26n%3D-1%26k%3D200000010%26sf%3Dr%26init%3Dq%26sid%3D0433357bb42d63c31668b7c22b5ae40e&gid=19758567754

ý betcha thers gonnna be smthg wrogn wýtht he lýnk coz ýts soo long

1403.       geniuda
1070 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 09:49 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

ok... inþallah still it´s weird... I think.

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 I agree.....especially if you work in healthcare and work 12 hour shifts.....7a to 7p.....hahaha....guess when most poles are open.....7a to 7p......so much for healthcare workers voting!  I think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place!  I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work!  I would have to drive all the way back to my town!  {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

In this case maybe the absentee ballot would be an option. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

I do believe that Voting day has not become a national holiday in purpose{#lang_emotions_razz}, imagine overcrowded places and all the chaos created by having hundreds of people waiting in line? I think it would get out of control...{#lang_emotions_scared} 

 

 

1404.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 10:08 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Quote:

think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place!  I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work!  I would have to drive all the way back to my town!  {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 

Lis, you probably didn´t even need to leave your house and someone would have already voted for you or even voted twice...that´s what´s happening in my state.{#lang_emotions_puking}

 

 Na.....this is Texas, honey.......they had to check for weapons before letting us into the voting booths!  Security is pretty tight!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1405.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 10:56 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

In this case maybe the absentee ballot would be an option. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 I can´t remember when I didn´t vote by absentee ballot.  I started doing it years ago because I was travelling a lot and never knew if I would be home on election day. 

I continue doing it because I can use the day to do last minute campaigning for my candidate.  I´ve been calling voters in Virginia all morning to make sure they are getting out to vote.  It´s great fun (especially when you are fairly confident your candidate will win {#lang_emotions_bigsmile})

 

1406.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Nov 2008 Tue 11:00 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

I do believe that Voting day has not become a national holiday in purpose{#lang_emotions_razz}, imagine overcrowded places and all the chaos created by having hundreds of people waiting in line? I think it would get out of control...{#lang_emotions_scared} 

 

Imagine that people actually voted and were interested in politics, their dirty politics, might not actually work... nahhh... better keep people out of politics.

1407.       lesluv
722 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 01:03 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/family-of-six-died-in-m6-crash-car-inferno-967859.html

 

the funeral has just been on  TV news..... very very sad.

1408.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 11:48 am

Girleegirl in a political argument!!!!  Go Girleeeeeeeeee {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

(not very shallow of you though!)

1409.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 12:01 pm

Dogs in the Pink

Diva Dogs the luxury pet boutique and grooming parlour in Essex has started offering dying services to its clients and has just produced its first pink dog. The company claims that pink is the colour that appeals to women, children and Gay men (their main market) and felt that with the currant pink trend in the high street stores they would take the pink frenzy to a whole new level. After pink car seats, pink car stickers even pink cars they decided to have a PINK Doggy fashion show that showcased their pink clothing items with a finale featuring Coco Chanel the PINK poodle.

The dye used is Vegetable based non-toxic to dogs or humans and the dog can lick it as it is completely safe.

The wash in dye will last approximately 4 weeks on a dog unless they were bathed everyday (which Diva Dogs do not recommend) then the colour would last approx 1 week. The cost starts from £45 upwards dependent on the size of the animal, a standard poodle costs around £100. It took approximately two hours to dye Coco´s coat including preparation de-matting (removing knots etc) and cleaning her coat so that there is no build up of dirt. The dye is then applied by working it into the coat with a conditioner and has to stay on for the hound for around 20 minutes. Rinsing, drying and styling complete the treatment. Most varieties of dog can be dyed but final results differ. The best coats to dye are light coloured, as variants in the coat colour will produce different shades of pink.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03718/03718067.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03718/03718068.jpg

 

pink dog anyone?

 

1410.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 12:07 pm

OMG I did this years ago!!!!!! When I was a student, I had a birthday party one year and we put a pink colour rinse in my housemate´s white fluffy dog!!!!!!

 

It was so funny...until the next morning when she had to take it for a walk lol

1411.       lesluv
722 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 01:01 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Dogs in the Pink

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03718/03718067.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03718/03718068.jpg

 

pink dog anyone?

 

 Is this to match the pink bows on your pig tails!!!

1412.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 05:39 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Girleegirl in a political argument!!!!  Go Girleeeeeeeeee {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

(not very shallow of you though!)

 

Oh damn!  I have broken my own commandment of staying out of political debates.  But now that the election is over I will try my best to get back to my shallow-self.  {#lang_emotions_shy}

1413.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 05:40 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

OMG I did this years ago!!!!!! When I was a student, I had a birthday party one year and we put a pink colour rinse in my housemate´s white fluffy dog!!!!!!

 

 That´s so "mltm" of you!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

1414.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 05:42 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

Quoting TheAenigma

OMG I did this years ago!!!!!! When I was a student, I had a birthday party one year and we put a pink colour rinse in my housemate´s white fluffy dog!!!!!!

 

 That´s so "mltm" of you!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 OMG!

1415.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 06:18 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

Oh damn!  I have broken my own commandment of staying out of political debates.  But now that the election is over I will try my best to get back to my shallow-self.  {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 Well thank goodness!  I was getting tired of you being so deep!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1416.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 06:21 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Well thank goodness!  I was getting tired of you being so deep!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 My deepest apologies {#lang_emotions_shy}

1417.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 06:25 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 My deepest apologies {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 For a deep apology....that sounded a little shallow!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1418.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 06:27 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 For a deep apology....that sounded a little shallow!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 I´m trying to balance my shallowness with my deepness.  Looks like it´s working!  Whew, it´s not easy.  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1419.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 07:38 pm

thehandsom...I got the pm you sent....is that really you?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1420.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 08:00 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

thehandsom...I got the pm you sent....is that really you?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

me?!!!{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

(well before I reply formally, can I see the picture first--i am very busy at the moment and i dont remember what I sent to who recently really)..

1421.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 08:11 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

me?!!!{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

(well before I reply formally, can I see the picture first--i am very busy at the moment and i dont remember what I sent to who recently really)..

 

 Sure, I´ll send it to you..

1422.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 06:09 am

A TIME FOR DRUNKEN HORSES

 

Former assistant director to Abbas Kiarostami and star of Samira Makhmalbaf´s Blackboards, Bahman Ghobadi makes his directorial debut with this gritty, documentary-like look at Kurdish orphans struggling to survive. Shot in the village where the filmmaker grew up, the film unsentimentally depicts how children are packed in trucks and driven to the city to perform such menial jobs as wrapping parcels or, more likely, carrying large boxes like pack mules. Though Ayoub is all of 12 years old, he has become the head of the household, which includes his severely disabled older brother -- who is also deathly ill. In order to pay for an operation that might prolong his life, Ayoub joins a group of smugglers who traffic truck tires to Iraq. Negotiating landmines and dodging border guards, they struggle to get their overburdened mules through snow covered mountains by plying them with alcohol. Later, the eldest sister agrees to marry an Iraqi Kurd, under the belief that the groom´s family will pay for the operation. This film was screened at the 2000 Cannes and Toronto film festivals.

 

Who, may I ask has seen this movie?????

1423.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 06:15 am

movie: Turtles can fly

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_Can_Fly

1424.       lesluv
722 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 07:12 am

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1898416.ece

 

{#lang_emotions_razz} sick mother??

1425.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 11:31 pm

He´s back!!  My beloved gsibrahim is back!  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

Ohhh he is a clever, clever man.  He dropped the @hotma from his name....no one will ever suspect it´s him returned from the land of the banished!!  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

1426.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Nov 2008 Fri 11:36 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

He´s back!!  My beloved gsibrahim is back!  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

Ohhh he is a clever, clever man.  He dropped the @hotma from his name....no one will ever suspect it´s him returned from the land of the banished!!  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

 

 I you sure it´s him....{#lang_emotions_unsure}  I don´t think he could bare the thought of leaving you.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1427.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:10 pm

SQUIRREL KEBAB

Chef Ed Chester of the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon who is offering £5.50 squirrel kebabs.  A head chef has said his customers are literally going nuts for his latest creation - squirrel KEBABS. Adventurous Ed Chester first unveiled the snack at a food festival and said he sold out within minutes to hungry punters.

To create the kebabs he marinates the meat in red wine then lightly barbecues and rolls them in honey and chopped hazelnuts. Ed, head chef at the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon, has now put them on his menu for £5.50 each.

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000275.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000278.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000276.jpg

 

 

ps I am not giving links to the bigger pictures incase someone thinks they are offensive

1428.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:28 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

SQUIRREL KEBAB

Chef Ed Chester of the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon who is offering £5.50 squirrel kebabs.  A head chef has said his customers are literally going nuts for his latest creation - squirrel KEBABS. Adventurous Ed Chester first unveiled the snack at a food festival and said he sold out within minutes to hungry punters.

To create the kebabs he marinates the meat in red wine then lightly barbecues and rolls them in honey and chopped hazelnuts. Ed, head chef at the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon, has now put them on his menu for £5.50 each.

 

Didn´t we have a post like this recently with exactly the same pictures?  What is so strange about eating squirrels anyway?  They are vegetarian animals (which is the only kind deemed acceptable in the west) so what is the problem?

 

If you choose to eat meat, does it really make a different whether the animal was cute and fluffy or not?

 

1429.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:31 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Didn´t we have a post like this recently with exactly the same pictures?  What is so strange about eating squirrels anyway?  They are vegetarian animals (which is the only kind deemed acceptable in the west) so what is the problem?

 

If you choose to eat meat, does it really make a different whether the animal was cute and fluffy or not?

 

Yes you are right AE, he did post these before!  He had better watch out when LIR comes on line, he will get a proper telling off! Duplicating a post how dare he, how VERY dare he??? {#lang_emotions_lol}

1430.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:31 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Yes you are right AE, he did post these before!  He had better watch out when LIR comes on line, he will get a proper telling off! Duplicating a post how dare he, how VERY dare he??? {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 lol lol lol

1431.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:32 pm

In fact I think I would prefer you meat eaters to eat squirrel.  At least it is not farmed (yet) and lives a normal life before being killed

1432.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:46 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Yes you are right AE, he did post these before!  He had better watch out when LIR comes on line, he will get a proper telling off! Duplicating a post how dare he, how VERY dare he??? {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

It is NOT the same news {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

The other one was about killing them, this one is different. this is kind of recipe .{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

And the pictures are different too..{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

and {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1433.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 01:53 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

It is NOT the same news {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

The other one was about killing them, this one is different. this is kind of recipe .{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

And the pictures are different too..{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

and {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 

But near enough! Punishment is round the corner I am sure {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

1434.       doudi94
845 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 03:14 pm

You know what you should do?

You should start a TC dictionary, for Tc´s most common words,

starting with these:

Gud

Bed and

Sapik

1435.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 04:29 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

It is NOT the same news {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

The other one was about killing them, this one is different. this is kind of recipe .{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

And the pictures are different too..{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

and {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 By the way, my guess says it is a rabbit, not a squirrel {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1436.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 04:54 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

It is NOT the same news {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

The other one was about killing them, this one is different. this is kind of recipe .{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

And the pictures are different too..{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

and {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 Are you obsessed with squirrels then?  The other item showed them being cooked too.  Or maybe you just post it because you know I will find it offensive (as your PS suggested).  Perhaps next you could find pictures of dogs or cats being skinned and cooked?  Maybe you may appeal to a wider audience then...

 

I can do much better than you.  Shall I post nice pictures of how the animals you eat are treated and suffer?  Are you "into" that kind of thing?

 

Happy eating...

1437.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 05:04 pm

This caught my eye today.  Enjoy the video (and your burger)....

 

http://www.ciwf.org.uk/what_we_do/investigations/default.aspx

 

1438.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 05:28 pm

 

Quoting Libralady

By the way, my guess says it is a rabbit, not a squirrel

 

They are squirrels..

1439.       doudi94
845 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 06:11 pm

what caught my eye is :

it looks like the handsom ahs some new competition -hotandsmart!

that sure beats him!

Hot AND Smart!!!

loooooooool!

http://www.turkishclass.com/user_hotandsmart

1440.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 08:12 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

what caught my eye is :

it looks like the handsom ahs some new competition -hotandsmart!

that sure beats him!

Hot AND Smart!!!

loooooooool!

 

+1000000000 lol lol lol lol

1441.       doudi94
845 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 08:21 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

+1000000000 lol lol lol lol

 

 lol, no really! Id take hot over handsome any day!!!

add in smart and....!!!

PuRRRRRRRRRRRfeCT!!!

1442.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 08:30 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

what caught my eye is :

it looks like the handsom ahs some new competition -hotandsmart!

that sure beats him!

Hot AND Smart!!!

loooooooool!

http://www.turkishclass.com/user_hotandsmart

 

Competition?

what competition is that?.

I saw his post . He has asked to start beginners class..

I guess he is not Turkish.

And I bet, he is not hairy either..{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

1443.       doudi94
845 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 09:00 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Competition?

what competition is that?.

I saw his post . He has asked to start beginners class..

I guess he is not Turkish.

And I bet, he is not hairy either..{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 Ooooh! How cute!

handsom is jealous!

dont worry, you´re right,

I mean, how stupid were we to compare Hot to Hairy???

*sigh*

I guess you win!{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1444.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Nov 2008 Sat 09:06 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

 lol, no really! Id take hot over handsome any day!!!

add in smart and....!!!

PuRRRRRRRRRRRfeCT!!!

 

OMG, you´re a genius, and you´re cracking me up!!! lol

1445.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Nov 2008 Sun 12:54 am

In just under a month TheAenigma has posted 704 times - that works out at roughly 1

post an hour for the last 29 days  - what unbelievable dedication!

{#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

 

1446.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Nov 2008 Sun 03:56 am

 

Quoting lady in red

In just under a month TheAenigma has posted 704 times - that works out at roughly 1

post an hour for the last 29 days  - what unbelievable dedication!

{#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

But Lir

That is the reason we love her..

1447.       bydand
755 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 11:58 am

Today is the 70th anniversary of the death of Atatürk.

1448.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 01:15 pm

 

Quoting bydand

Today is the 70th anniversary of the death of Atatürk.

 

 By posting this, a Scotsman is highlighting the shortage of Turks who post now {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1449.       bydand
755 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 02:02 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 By posting this, a Scotsman is highlighting the shortage of Turks who post now {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Thats what I noticed when I posted LL. 3 years ago when I first joined this site there would have been many tributes. It seems there is a general disillusionment amongst the younger generation regarding his achievements.

1450.       lady in red
6947 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 03:49 pm

After reading bydand´s comment I was browsing through some posts from the very early days of TC and came across this member who was briefly here in the early days

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/user_dudu

 

 

1451.       femmeous
2642 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 03:52 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

After reading bydand´s comment I was browsing through some posts from the very early days of TC and came across this member who was briefly here in the early days

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/user_dudu

 

 he/she must have had psychic gifts

1452.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Nov 2008 Mon 07:29 pm

Two handsom/handsomes logged in at once!

1453.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 03:14 pm

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959134.jpg

THEMA AND ALBERT

Shamwari Game Reserve, South Africa - A baby elephant and a sheep may not appear to have much in common, but at the Shamwari Game Reserve these two animals have become the best of pals. Eight-month-old orphan Themba, whose name means ´hope´ in Xhosa, struck up a friendship with wooly Albert after arriving at the reserve´s animal hospital when he was just six months old. Themba´s mum had fallen off a cliff and died at the Sanbona Wildlife Reserve, where Themba was born. Shamwari´s veterinary team were called in and monitored the young elephant in the weeks that followed, hoping he would be adopted by another elephant cow and would allow him to suckle. Unfortunately, this did not happen and the Shamwari team, with just hours to spare, swooped in to save the baby elephant from starving to death. Like humans, baby elephants need constant care and attention, so members of the team at the Shamwari Animal Hospital and Rehabilitation Centre take turns in sleeping with Themba, getting up to feed him when he cries and comfort him when he is distressed. When the team introduced Albert and Themba, there was some initial tension, but this soon disappeared and now the two are inseparable friends.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959136.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959137.jpg

1454.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 03:55 pm

 

 This is a story about Femme and Anka

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 

Quoting thehandsom

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959134.jpg

THEMA AND ALBERT

Shamwari Game Reserve, South Africa - A baby elephant and a sheep may not appear to have much in common, but at the Shamwari Game Reserve these two animals have become the best of pals. Eight-month-old orphan Themba, whose name means ´hope´ in Xhosa, struck up a friendship with wooly Albert after arriving at the reserve´s animal hospital when he was just six months old. Themba´s mum had fallen off a cliff and died at the Sanbona Wildlife Reserve, where Themba was born. Shamwari´s veterinary team were called in and monitored the young elephant in the weeks that followed, hoping he would be adopted by another elephant cow and would allow him to suckle. Unfortunately, this did not happen and the Shamwari team, with just hours to spare, swooped in to save the baby elephant from starving to death. Like humans, baby elephants need constant care and attention, so members of the team at the Shamwari Animal Hospital and Rehabilitation Centre take turns in sleeping with Themba, getting up to feed him when he cries and comfort him when he is distressed. When the team introduced Albert and Themba, there was some initial tension, but this soon disappeared and now the two are inseparable friends.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959136.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959137.jpg

 

 

1455.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 03:59 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 This is a story about Femme and Anka

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1456.       femmeous
2642 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 04:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 This is a story about Femme and Anka

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

Quoting thehandsom

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959134.jpg

THEMA AND ALBERT

Shamwari Game Reserve, South Africa - A baby elephant and a sheep may not appear to have much in common, but at the Shamwari Game Reserve these two animals have become the best of pals. Eight-month-old orphan Themba, whose name means ´hope´ in Xhosa, struck up a friendship with wooly Albert after arriving at the reserve´s animal hospital when he was just six months old. Themba´s mum had fallen off a cliff and died at the Sanbona Wildlife Reserve, where Themba was born. Shamwari´s veterinary team were called in and monitored the young elephant in the weeks that followed, hoping he would be adopted by another elephant cow and would allow him to suckle. Unfortunately, this did not happen and the Shamwari team, with just hours to spare, swooped in to save the baby elephant from starving to death. Like humans, baby elephants need constant care and attention, so members of the team at the Shamwari Animal Hospital and Rehabilitation Centre take turns in sleeping with Themba, getting up to feed him when he cries and comfort him when he is distressed. When the team introduced Albert and Themba, there was some initial tension, but this soon disappeared and now the two are inseparable friends.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959136.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96959/96959137.jpg

 

 its not true, its a fake news! its propaganda!

people dont believe this.

aenigma is a propaganda!

1457.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 04:07 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

But Lir

That is the reason we love her..

 

Who is ´we´? lol

1458.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 04:09 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Who is ´we´? lol

 

 Theh has gone royal.  I think all this talk about his "hair-em" has gone to his head! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1459.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 04:10 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Who is ´we´? lol

 

 I anticipate this continuing until I post a sicky post about our lovely mods

1460.       bod
5999 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 04:11 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I anticipate this continuing until I post a sicky post about our lovely mods

 

 Planning a little creeping are you???

1461.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 04:12 pm

 

Quoting bod

 Planning a little creeping are you???

 

 Nope!  Better to put up with Cat´s jibes than do THAT

Besides I posted them a lovely poem yesterday...

1462.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 06:23 pm

Two men have been found guilty of causing the death of a 17-month-old boy in Haringey in north London.

Jason Owen, 36, from Bromley, and a 32-year-old had denied killing the child in August 2007. He suffered a series of injuries, including a broken back.

The boy´s mother had pleaded guilty to causing the death of the boy, who was seen about 60 times by social workers, doctors and welfare and family groups.

Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case. 

 

The rest of the article with a picture of the dead baby is not for the faint hearted...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7706598.stm

 

That guy Owen..... I´m against torture but in this case I think I´d like to make an exception! {#lang_emotions_puking}

1463.       lady in red
6947 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 06:47 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Two men have been found guilty of causing the death of a 17-month-old boy in Haringey in north London.

Jason Owen, 36, from Bromley, and a 32-year-old had denied killing the child in August 2007. He suffered a series of injuries, including a broken back.

The boy´s mother had pleaded guilty to causing the death of the boy, who was seen about 60 times by social workers, doctors and welfare and family groups.

Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case. 

 

The rest of the article with a picture of the dead baby is not for the faint hearted...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7706598.stm

 

That guy Owen..... I´m against torture but in this case I think I´d like to make an exception! {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

I´d call these people animals - except it would be an insult to animals.  And as for the social services involved.........I hope they can live with themselves.

1464.       FamilyGuy
81 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 07:32 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

I´d call these people animals - except it would be an insult to animals.  And as for the social services involved.........I hope they can live with themselves.

 

 This story is just heartbreaking......It is just incomprehendible how anyone could abuse and torture are little innocent child... I have been working in child proctection for over 10 years, but not in England.... If this child have been under my umbrella or care when this happened, I know I certainly could not live with myself........{#lang_emotions_cry}

1465.       lesluv
722 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 07:33 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

I´d call these people animals - except it would be an insult to animals.  And as for the social services involved.........I hope they can live with themselves.

 

 and this in the same borough and the same department that failed Victoria Climbie.... so much for a progressive society

1466.       lady in red
6947 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 08:09 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 and this in the same borough and the same department that failed Victoria Climbie.... so much for a progressive society

 

Yes lesluv - in the UK we don´t do that great in the ´looking after children´ department ourselves do we?

 

{#lang_emotions_sad}

1467.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 Nov 2008 Wed 10:59 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Two men have been found guilty of causing the death of a 17-month-old boy in Haringey in north London.

Jason Owen, 36, from Bromley, and a 32-year-old had denied killing the child in August 2007. He suffered a series of injuries, including a broken back.

The boy´s mother had pleaded guilty to causing the death of the boy, who was seen about 60 times by social workers, doctors and welfare and family groups.

Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case. 

 

The rest of the article with a picture of the dead baby is not for the faint hearted...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7706598.stm

 

That guy Owen..... I´m against torture but in this case I think I´d like to make an exception! {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

 More on this.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-60-missed-chances-to-save-abused-childs-life-1012495.html

 

What is even more tragic is that the police investigation was hindered by the Social Services and red tape, not allowing essential  paperwork being provided.  You will notice that the main perpertrator was the sadistic, pain loving boyfriend 32 and not Owen 36.  Not that it excuses anthing.  None of this three should ever be allowed to see daylight again, after having some of the injuries inflicked on them first.

1468.       lesluv
722 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 01:30 am

I struggle to believe that we can reside on the same planet with such evil {#lang_emotions_rant}{#lang_emotions_sad}

1469.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 01:43 am

 

Quoting Trudy

Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case. 

 

 Warnings!?!?!  OMG!  They are given warnings so they can go on with their job of turning the other way while abuse is going on right under their noses?????  {#lang_emotions_rant}{#lang_emotions_rant}{#lang_emotions_rant}{#lang_emotions_rant}

 

There was a similar case in the US several years back.....Child Protective Services visited the child´s home numerous times and then the child "disappeared".  The social worker went on filing reports as if she had seen the child.......who was later found dead.  I never heard the outcome of what happened to the social worker but I know she was facing charges.

 

 

 

 

And on a side note I can´t help but notice that this was an article about abuse that occured in the UK and was reported by the news in the UK.........what a concept.

1470.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 02:46 am

 

Quoting lady in red

Yes lesluv - in the UK we don´t do that great in the ´looking after children´ department ourselves do we?

 

{#lang_emotions_sad}

 

 and theres no one to protect the image of uk? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

1471.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 09:33 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 And on a side note I can´t help but notice that this was an article about abuse that occured in the UK and was reported by the news in the UK.........what a concept.

 

lol lol lol

 

I think there must have been a mistake... possibly

1472.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:45 am

IRAN: Old trees cut in name of Islamic purity

 

The daily Iranian newspaper Etemaad today covered a funny but sad story about the cutting down of two centuries-old mulberry trees by authorities under the pretext of fighting local superstitions.

The story comes out of the town of Rezvanshahr, along the Caspian Sea province of Gilan, where lush forests are increasingly destroyed by  urbanization and pollution.

There the local head of an Islamic charity named "Mr. Eshkavari" has decided to tear down a pair of old trees on properties he owns because some people are placing candles and ribbons at them as part of an ancient ritual.

 

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/11/iran-ancient-tr.html

1473.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:46 am

 

Quoting FamilyGuy

 This story is just heartbreaking......It is just incomprehendible how anyone could abuse and torture are little innocent child... I have been working in child proctection for over 10 years, but not in England.... If this child have been under my umbrella or care when this happened, I know I certainly could not live with myself........{#lang_emotions_cry}

 

 This is horrific   I don´t know much about family social services, but from my observation it does seem that the emphasis is too much on helping the parents, rather than the children.    Yet another story today about two children stabbed....

 

I do think that much of the problem is now cultural here.  Women (especially young women) have bizarre reasons for having children (including "to get out of school", "because I thought it would make my boyfriend stay with me", "because I wanted to get more money from social services"  because it is socially acceptable to have babies at any age (married or unmarried). 

 

My comment sounds far more conservative than I actually am, but I just think that there is a social/cultural problem in the UK and it´s effects are increasingly frightening.  I don´t really know what the answer is

 

 

1474.       bod
5999 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 03:05 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I do think that much of the problem is now cultural here.  Women (especially young women) have bizarre reasons for having children (including "to get out of school", "because I thought it would make my boyfriend stay with me", "because I wanted to get more money from social services"  because it is socially acceptable to have babies at any age (married or unmarried). 

 

My comment sounds far more conservative than I actually am, but I just think that there is a social/cultural problem in the UK and it´s effects are increasingly frightening.  I don´t really know what the answer is

 

Unfortunately it goes deeper thn that - there seems to be an expectation for all women to have children........

1475.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 07:23 pm

The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..

 

yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!

here are some pics anyway:

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851385.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851388.jpg  

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851394.jpg

 

 

1476.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 07:30 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..

 

yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!

here are some pics anyway:

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851385.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851388.jpg  

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851394.jpg

 

 Get a life theH  {#lang_emotions_noway} - we know you´re in there somewhere!  I bet you told the MD you were just ´nipping out for a sandwich´ didn´t you??

1477.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:08 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..

 

yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!

here are some pics anyway:

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851385.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851388.jpg  

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851394.jpg 

 

 I walked through St Pancras twice yesterday and never noticed this bunch!  I see really they are out of the way, beyond the champange bar.

1478.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:13 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 I walked through St Pancras twice yesterday and never noticed this bunch!  I see really they are out of the way, beyond the champange bar.

 

 Possibly because it took place today and not yesterday {#lang_emotions_razz}

1479.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:21 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Possibly because it took place today and not yesterday {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 I also walked through there today and not a sign!  What time was it? 

 

Being my preferred route from Kings Cross to the underground................

1480.       FamilyGuy
81 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:29 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 This is horrific   I don´t know much about family social services, but from my observation it does seem that the emphasis is too much on helping the parents, rather than the children.    Yet another story today about two children stabbed....

 

I do think that much of the problem is now cultural here.  Women (especially young women) have bizarre reasons for having children (including "to get out of school", "because I thought it would make my boyfriend stay with me", "because I wanted to get more money from social services"  because it is socially acceptable to have babies at any age (married or unmarried). 

 

My comment sounds far more conservative than I actually am, but I just think that there is a social/cultural problem in the UK and it´s effects are increasingly frightening.  I don´t really know what the answer is

 

 I can completely understand why you think that the system is here to help the parents... but from my point of view, I am here to help and support the children, and sometimes the best way to help the children is to help the parents to become better parents... You are completely correct about many young mothers and fathers  having children because they get financial support and housing....if there is no evidence that the child is at risk then you have to work to allow that child to have a  happy home life with parents who can cope    ...I wont go into my experience of parenting classes and detox programms.. it would take too long

but what i would like to say there is still too much red tape in some areas of the uk and too little in other parts of the uk.......

in the last week I spent 3 hours interviewing a parent because their child failed a maths exam and made a silly comment "my mum is going to kill to me, im in big trouble when i get home" some teacher decided that according to legislation it would be right to report this comment".....another 3 hours spent this week interviewing a parent because their child fell off a wall and had been to the hospital for another incident in the past 6 months.... I discussed this with my colleagues who feel that doing something is better than nothing... but what happened to common sense?

 

so what i ask myself is how can the child protection in my area be so aggressive and this baby was seen 60 times.....and no one did a thing

 

I dont have the answers... just in my region we were inspected on our child protection and we go a good report on most aspects apart from sharing information with other agencies

 

I dont know the in´s and out´s of this case but perhaps if agencies were more willing to share information this could be prevented in the future

 

and i cant belive i have gone on and on about this... but its something i feel very passionate about......

1481.       lady in red
6947 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:29 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 I also walked through there today and not a sign!  What time was it? 

 

Being my preferred route from Kings Cross to the underground................

 

No idea - but I don´t suppose you spent the whole day walking through St Pancras did you? I doubt they spent all day there.

1482.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Nov 2008 Thu 10:36 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

No idea - but I don´t suppose you spent the whole day walking through St Pancras did you? I doubt they spent all day there.

 

 Hahaha!  It is actually quite a beautiful place................ and some nice shops................. I suppose it was about 9:45 this morning............. but the photos are taken upstairs where no one would go, unless you are going to the champagne bar and that is out of my price range.  Cup of tea in Starbucks is about my limit {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1483.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 10:04 am

The romance was virtual. But the behaviour of David Pollard´s character in an online game has cost him his real marriage!!

 

As divorce cases go, ... a woman catches her husband having sex with a prostitute, forgives him, but finally throws in the towel after discovering he has been unfaithful again. Yet absolutely none of it happened in real life.

Amy Taylor is divorcing David Pollard, .. on the grounds of "unreasonable behaviour" after she discovered his character in the online community game Second Life had been having an affair.

It was the second time ....l. Before they were married, she had once awoken from an afternoon nap to discover him sitting at his computer watching his online character – whom he had named Dave Barmy – having sex with an on-screen call girl.

She said: "I went mad – I was so hurt. I just couldn´t believe what he´d done. I looked at the computer screen and could see his character having sex with a female character. It´s cheating as far as I´m concerned."

.. But in April this year, she caught his character in flagrante for a second time. "I caught him cuddling a woman on a sofa in the game. It looked really affectionate," she said...

 

The day after discovering his online affair, Ms Taylor filed for divorce,..

Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.

..but then Amy found out about it and went mad, and said ´how could you do this, you bastard?´ {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/..g-an-affair-in-second-life-1017946.html

 

1484.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 11:44 am

 

Quoting FamilyGuy

 I can completely understand why you think that the system is here to help the parents... but from my point of view, I am here to help and support the children, and sometimes the best way to help the children is to help the parents to become better parents... You are completely correct about many young mothers and fathers  having children because they get financial support and housing....if there is no evidence that the child is at risk then you have to work to allow that child to have a  happy home life with parents who can cope    ...I wont go into my experience of parenting classes and detox programms.. it would take too long

but what i would like to say there is still too much red tape in some areas of the uk and too little in other parts of the uk.......

in the last week I spent 3 hours interviewing a parent because their child failed a maths exam and made a silly comment "my mum is going to kill to me, im in big trouble when i get home" some teacher decided that according to legislation it would be right to report this comment".....another 3 hours spent this week interviewing a parent because their child fell off a wall and had been to the hospital for another incident in the past 6 months.... I discussed this with my colleagues who feel that doing something is better than nothing... but what happened to common sense?

 

so what i ask myself is how can the child protection in my area be so aggressive and this baby was seen 60 times.....and no one did a thing

 

I dont have the answers... just in my region we were inspected on our child protection and we go a good report on most aspects apart from sharing information with other agencies

 

I dont know the in´s and out´s of this case but perhaps if agencies were more willing to share information this could be prevented in the future

 

and i cant belive i have gone on and on about this... but its something i feel very passionate about......

 

 As I said I don´t know enough about how Social Services work (you obviously know more about it).  Despite my comments about them, I do think we all rush to blame them, instead of blaming the actual parents (!) and society itself.

 

I feel very passionate about it too, and my sister (who is a special care baby unit nurse) tells me horrific stories of some of the babies they have in their care, some harmed, some full of illegal drugs because the mother took them during pregnancy.  They find that social services do everything they can to return these babies to their mothers, and it is heartbreaking for them to hand back these poor babies, who have been so mistreated, to the very people who harmed them in the first place

1485.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 02:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The romance was virtual. But the behaviour of David Pollard´s character in an online game has cost him his real marriage!!

 

As divorce cases go, ... a woman catches her husband having sex with a prostitute, forgives him, but finally throws in the towel after discovering he has been unfaithful again. Yet absolutely none of it happened in real life.

Amy Taylor is divorcing David Pollard, .. on the grounds of "unreasonable behaviour" after she discovered his character in the online community game Second Life had been having an affair.

It was the second time ....l. Before they were married, she had once awoken from an afternoon nap to discover him sitting at his computer watching his online character – whom he had named Dave Barmy – having sex with an on-screen call girl.

She said: "I went mad – I was so hurt. I just couldn´t believe what he´d done. I looked at the computer screen and could see his character having sex with a female character. It´s cheating as far as I´m concerned."

.. But in April this year, she caught his character in flagrante for a second time. "I caught him cuddling a woman on a sofa in the game. It looked really affectionate," she said...

 

The day after discovering his online affair, Ms Taylor filed for divorce,..

Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.

..but then Amy found out about it and went mad, and said ´how could you do this, you bastard?´ {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/..g-an-affair-in-second-life-1017946.html

 

 Well I find this incredible!  Bit like divorcing someone for reading a magazine.................

1486.       lady in red
6947 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 03:13 pm

 

Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.

Quoting libralady

 Well I find this incredible!  Bit like divorcing someone for reading a magazine.................

 

Agreed....if it was just the game but he was having an affair with a real person  albeit it an online affair.  I think that was what his wife was ticked off about! lol

1487.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 04:28 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.

 

Agreed....if it was just the game but he was having an affair with a real person  albeit it an online affair.  I think that was what his wife was ticked off about! lol

 

 

My interpretation of an affair would be to have sex with someone in real life on a regular basis other than your regular partner - so perhaps in that case we are all guilty of having online affairs.  How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN???  Would you call that having an affair? Not in my book 
And what a handsome couple they made.....................................

1488.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 04:34 pm

 

Quoting libralady

My interpretation of an affair would be to have sex with someone in real life on a regular basis other than your regular partner - so perhaps in that case we are all guilty of having online affairs.  How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN???  Would you call that having an affair? Not in my book 
And what a handsome couple they made.....................................

 

Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL.  I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse

 

BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"

1489.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 04:54 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL.  I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse

 

BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"

 

 I know, I could not get the content out of the boxes!

1490.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 04:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL.  I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse

 

personally, I am not sure which one is worse, but I think that a real-life thing is worse!! when something actually happens.. an online thing, or regular magazines... that is also bad, but to me, it´s one step behind from actually having an affair.

1491.       zettea
160 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 05:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..

 

yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!

here are some pics anyway:

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851385.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851388.jpg  

http://images3.image-data.com/images/127/thumbs/96851/96851394.jpg

 

 lol

1492.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 07:55 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL.  I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse

 

BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"

 

 Maybe I am a tad on the liberal side (I think Catwoman elluded to that in one thread {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}) but I really don´t see it as such a problem.  A bigger problem for me would be jealous and possessiveness........... than a straying from the path of monogomy {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1493.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 08:53 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Maybe I am a tad on the liberal side (I think Catwoman elluded to that in one thread {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}) but I really don´t see it as such a problem.  A bigger problem for me would be jealous and possessiveness........... than a straying from the path of monogomy {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

Should we call you librallady from now on?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1494.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Nov 2008 Fri 09:20 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Should we call you librallady from now on?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 Haha.................{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}  just trying to boost my flagging PM´s from all the young dudes

1495.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 12:45 am

Lots of conservative people here. I think, this case would have best been handled by an inquisition court hundreds of years ago.

 

I wonder where would  those siding up with the woman in this case place thought-crime?

 

Every man would like to have sex with lots of women they see in the street without ever remembering who they are, what they look like. This is in their nature. It is all because of the hormones and maybe partly because of the way they were raised in their families.I am not sure whether this is the case with women too but I wouldn´t be surprized at all if most of them did not observe men the way a nun would (the true thoughts of whom only God knows).

 

Every nation´s literature is full of stories of perversion and sexuality. One classic short story pops up in my mind is "Girls in Their Summer Dresses" by Irwin Shaw. As far as I remember, it depicts a man in his forties who enjoys watching women as they are passing by in the street a habit which at first irritates his wife with whom he comes to terms later on after convincing her that his is just a pleasing activity for him and nothing more.

1496.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 12:47 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL.  I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse

 

BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"

Quoting libralady

 Maybe I am a tad on the liberal side (I think Catwoman alluded to that in one thread {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}) but I really don´t see it as such a problem.  A bigger problem for me would be jealous and possessiveness........... than a straying from the path of monogomy {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

I think  Aenigma is right - becoming very close  to someone in an on line ´relationship´  could be considered more intimate than a ´real life´ purely sexual relationship.   

1497.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 10:41 am

 

Quoting: libralady

How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN??? 

 

 

Hundreds!!!!   {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1498.       Trudy
7887 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 10:57 am

 

Quoting lady in red

Quoting: libralady

How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN??? 

 

 

Hundreds!!!!   {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Dudu´s? lol lol

1499.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 11:05 am

 

Quoting vineyards

Lots of conservative people here. I think, this case would have best been handled by an inquisition court hundreds of years ago.

 

I wonder where would  those siding up with the woman in this case place thought-crime?

 

Every man would like to have sex with lots of women they see in the street without ever remembering who they are, what they look like. This is in their nature. It is all because of the hormones and maybe partly because of the way they were raised in their families.I am not sure whether this is the case with women too but I wouldn´t be surprized at all if most of them did not observe men the way a nun would (the true thoughts of whom only God knows).

 

Every nation´s literature is full of stories of perversion and sexuality. One classic short story pops up in my mind is "Girls in Their Summer Dresses" by Irwin Shaw. As far as I remember, it depicts a man in his forties who enjoys watching women as they are passing by in the street a habit which at first irritates his wife with whom he comes to terms later on after convincing her that his is just a pleasing activity for him and nothing more.

 

 I agree with you Vineyards, and that is why I can forgive physical adultery more than emotional.  If your partner falls in love with someone else, what is the point in continuing?

1500.       libralady
5152 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 01:30 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I agree with you Vineyards, and that is why I can forgive physical adultery more than emotional.  If your partner falls in love with someone else, what is the point in continuing?

 

 Well I agree with that - too many unhappy relationships just carry on. 

 

But this is a  very interesting debate, really about how people perceive different relationships. And Vinyards, what makes you think it might only be men that watch women and not women who watch men and have certain desires?  It is called fantasy and we can all fantasise can we not?   But I do have to get to the gym {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}  all those well toned bodies {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1501.       doudi94
845 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 04:56 pm

That glasses need to constantly be cleaned!!!

thats sooo annoying!!!

If they get dirty, then u cants eee anything, its like ahving smthg infront of you!!!

U know it was really funny, a couple of days ago, my glasses were dirt and i was watching TV and i thought the dirt was on the TV screen lol, andi was soo annoyed and i didnt even realise until the commercials came and i went ot the kitchen

1502.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 05:28 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

That glasses need to constantly be cleaned!!!

thats sooo annoying!!!

If they get dirty, then u cants eee anything, its like ahving smthg infront of you!!!

U know it was really funny, a couple of days ago, my glasses were dirt and i was watching TV and i thought the dirt was on the TV screen lol, andi was soo annoyed and i didnt even realise until the commercials came and i went ot the kitchen

 

Get some lýke these!  (see the little windscreen-wipers {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

 

1503.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 05:32 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Quoting: libralady

How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN??? 

 

 

Hundreds!!!!   {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

Quoting Trudy

 Dudu´s? lol lol

 

 Nope!  Mine are all ´Dudes´ - Cool Dudes!!!   lol lol

1504.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 05:55 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Nope!  Mine are all ´Dudes´ - Cool Dudes!!!   lol lol

 

From TC?!?!?!?!

 

1505.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 06:12 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Nope!  Mine are all ´Dudes´ - Cool Dudes!!!   lol lol

Quoting TheAenigma

Quoting lady in red

 Nope!  Mine are all ´Dudes´ - Cool Dudes!!!   lol lol

 

From TC?!?!?!?!

 

 I have a life outside TC you know!  {#lang_emotions_razz}

1506.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 06:13 pm

Well yes, I forgot you are in the heart of dudu-country

Ama ... does having a "life" mean you talk to non-TC people on msn?

I thought it meant meeting people for real

1507.       lesluv
722 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 06:20 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well yes, I forgot you are in the heart of dudu-country

Ama ... does having a "life" mean you talk to non-TC people on msn?

I thought it meant meeting people for real

 

 WHAT?? you mean there is actually REAL people out there...... OMG

1508.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 06:23 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well yes, I forgot you are in the heart of dudu-country

Ama ... does having a "life" mean you talk to non-TC people on msn?

I thought it meant meeting people for real

 

 1. I have no dudus on my msn

 2. Having a life means I meet/have met real people who I now no longer live near and I   therefore chat to them on msn!

 

(and stop nitpicking my posts or I won´t take you on the guided dudu tour I promised you next summer {#lang_emotions_noway} 

1509.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 06:28 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

(and stop nitpicking my posts or I won´t take you on the guided dudu tour I promised you next summer {#lang_emotions_noway} 

 

 Oki doki

And and...the BEST specimens you said, right?

1510.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Nov 2008 Sat 06:31 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Oki doki

And and...the BEST specimens you said, right?

 

Well I had a few lined up for you at the beginning of this season - but you never turned up.  I´ll do my best next year but remember its still the early bird that catches the best worm!!

1511.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Nov 2008 Sun 07:51 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL.  I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse

 

BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"

 

Some psychiatrists have found that most women would find an actual emotional, intellectual entangelment....a touching of the soul, so to speak, more of a threat than a casual sexual escapade.

1512.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Nov 2008 Sun 04:47 pm

Turkish police at work.... horrible

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mkJyGnafw

 

1513.       zettea
160 posts
 16 Nov 2008 Sun 04:52 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Turkish police at work.... horrible

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mkJyGnafw

 

 OMG i really cant stand it when i see people hitting elderly women! what´s up with Turkey´s police force! :S

1514.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Nov 2008 Sun 04:53 pm

 

Quoting zettea

 OMG i really cant stand it when i see people hitting elderly women! what´s up with Turkey´s police force! :S

 

 The child´s arm being broken is absolutely unbearable to watch

1515.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Nov 2008 Sun 06:21 pm

Turkish Inmate escapes German jail in box

The 42-year-old Turkish citizen - who was serving a seven-year sentence - had been making stationery with other prisoners destined for the shops.

At the end of his shift, the inmate climbed into a cardboard box and was taken out of prison by express courier. His whereabouts are still unknown.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7730018.stm

1516.       Trudy
7887 posts
 16 Nov 2008 Sun 07:57 pm

Saudia Arabia to pardon condemned Turkish barber










 



Sabri Bogday, the Turkish barber condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, is expected to soon be released, Naci Koru, the Turkish ambassador to Riyad, told the family of the convicted man, the Dogan News Agency reported on Sunday.


 


Bogday had moved to the Saudi city of Jeddah from the southeastern Turkish province of Hatay where he was running a barbershop, and was arrested by Saudi officials after being accused by his Egyptian neighbor, a tailor that he had argued with, of "cursing the name of Allah".


 


Saudi authorities arrested Bogday and later condemned him to death. His family had appealed the decision and demanded that the president and prime minister intervene to prevent the execution.


 


President Abdullah Gul asserted efforts to save the Bogday from execution, sending a letter to Saudi King Abdullah requesting a pardon for Bogday. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had also contacted Saudi officials asking them to spare Bogday´s life.


 


Erdogan was reportedly waiting for the result of deliberations that continued at the top level to avert the execution.


 


In 1995, four Turkish citizens were beheaded in Saudi Arabia on charges of drug trafficking, despite strong pressure from Turkey. Bilateral relations were severely damaged by the move and could only be rebuilt after the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government came to power in 2002.



Source: Hurriyet



********


If everyone who cursed the name of God would be executed......

1517.       lesluv
722 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 04:24 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1085522/One-parents-thinks-Jaffa-Cakes-cola-count-fruit-veg.html

 

 

1518.       doudi94
845 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 06:54 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Saudia Arabia to pardon condemned Turkish barber

 

Sabri Bogday, the Turkish barber condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, is expected to soon be released, Naci Koru, the Turkish ambassador to Riyad, told the family of the convicted man, the Dogan News Agency reported on Sunday.

 

Bogday had moved to the Saudi city of Jeddah from the southeastern Turkish province of Hatay where he was running a barbershop, and was arrested by Saudi officials after being accused by his Egyptian neighbor, a tailor that he had argued with, of "cursing the name of Allah".

 

Saudi authorities arrested Bogday and later condemned him to death. His family had appealed the decision and demanded that the president and prime minister intervene to prevent the execution.

 

President Abdullah Gul asserted efforts to save the Bogday from execution, sending a letter to Saudi King Abdullah requesting a pardon for Bogday. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had also contacted Saudi officials asking them to spare Bogday´s life.

 

Erdogan was reportedly waiting for the result of deliberations that continued at the top level to avert the execution.

 

In 1995, four Turkish citizens were beheaded in Saudi Arabia on charges of drug trafficking, despite strong pressure from Turkey. Bilateral relations were severely damaged by the move and could only be rebuilt after the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government came to power in 2002.

Source: Hurriyet

********

If everyone who cursed the name of God would be executed......

 

Yes!! You know a very very similar thing is happening there in Saudi Arabia too to an Egyptian doctor!

He´s accused of casuing one of the prince´s wives of getting addicted to morphibe while treatinbg her, even though the lady confessed that she´d gotten addicted to it while on a trip in america, and they say that the prince sent his wife to the egyptian doctor to get treated but later acxxuse dhim, he was sentenced to a couple of years in prison and a nd a couple of thousand whips! Even though the guy is innocent!And the egyptian embassy begged saudis to stop the sentence (BTW it still ahsnt been done yet)

The ministr of something (I dont remember what shes the minister of) said that no more egyptian doctoers are allowed to go to Saudi Arabia, and taht is very bad cause most doctores 9egyptian) got to saudi arabia to work there becuase it gets u lots of $$$

So I think thats really abd cause now she ruined the lives of so many people ....

 

 

 

BTW do you know how many turks in saudi arabia are barbers????? Almost all of themm!!! There are sooo many!!! But they vchartge 3 times as much as a normal barber thats what my dad used to say at least, hed take my brothers there cause he said he trusted them more than saudi barbers and cause theyer cleaner and there are also sooo many of them working in doner stores! OMG they make the besttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!! Its soooo tasty!!!

1519.       lesluv
722 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 01:11 am

Quoting thehandsom

 

I was in O2 tonight..and he was perfect..

 picked the right night for it !!{#lang_emotions_scared}

Triple stabbing at Awards show

Published: Sunday, 16 November 2008, 6:56AM

Police have arrested a man after three people were stabbed at a music awards show on Saturday night.

Hundreds of people have been questioned after violence erupted at the 6th Annual Urban Music Awards at The O2 Arena in London.

Eyewitnesses said there was "blood all over the floor" after a huge brawl broke out at around 10pm, sending champagne bottles and chairs flying and causing general "hysteria".

Guns were also said to have been spotted inside the auditorium.

One man has been arrested after police cordoned off the venue and questioned around 300 guests until the early hours of the morning.

Guest Andre Nevling said a woman sitting at the same table as himself was "covered" in blood.

"Obviously the guy who got stabbed must have run straight past her and she´s pretty shaken up.

"I came out of the auditorium and looked at her and she was just standing there. I saw blood all over the floor and then I was like, ´Jesus you´re covered in it´," he said.

London Ambulance Service said three patients, one of whom is thought to be a 20-year-old, were treated at the scene and were been taken to London hospitals.

Estelle, Adele, Leona Lewis, Dizzee Rascal and Duffy were among the performers nominated for awards at last night´s ceremony.

1520.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 01:31 pm

Finally !

Map

The Egyptian government says it has placed a ban on Egyptian doctors going to work in Saudi Arabia in the wake of two medics being sentenced to jail

Rauf Amin Mohammad al-Arabi, who had worked for the royal family for 20 years, was sentenced to 15 years in jail and 1,500 lashes.

1521.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 01:36 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Yes!! You know a very very similar thing is happening there in Saudi Arabia too to an Egyptian doctor!

He´s accused of casuing one of the prince´s wives of getting addicted to morphibe while treatinbg her, even though the lady confessed that she´d gotten addicted to it while on a trip in america, and they say that the prince sent his wife to the egyptian doctor to get treated but later acxxuse dhim, he was sentenced to a couple of years in prison and a nd a couple of thousand whips! Even though the guy is innocent!And the egyptian embassy begged saudis to stop the sentence (BTW it still ahsnt been done yet)

The ministr of something (I dont remember what shes the minister of) said that no more egyptian doctoers are allowed to go to Saudi Arabia, and taht is very bad cause most doctores 9egyptian) got to saudi arabia to work there becuase it gets u lots of $$$

So I think thats really abd cause now she ruined the lives of so many people ....

 

 

 

 

 

 Are you serious ?!!!{#lang_emotions_wtf}

Ýt should have been done from the beginning!

Even that sentence has no place in Þariaa,even our Ýmams argued it from that point too!

1522.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 07:20 pm

Teacher salaries insufficient, poll shows.
Most teachers in Turkey take on another job to make ends meet, and less than half of them own homes, a recent survey has indicated.

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=159051&bolum=101

 

Well, it immediately ends the idea of ever going to Turkey hoping I can make a living as a teacher....

1523.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 12:33 am

 

Quoting Trudy

Teacher salaries insufficient, poll shows.
Most teachers in Turkey take on another job to make ends meet, and less than half of them own homes, a recent survey has indicated.

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=159051&bolum=101

 

Well, it immediately ends the idea of ever going to Turkey hoping I can make a living as a teacher....

 

 I happen to think here in the U.S. they are underpaid as well.  They do get good benefits, but their salaries could be higher.  Our priorities are backwards here, we pay millions of dollars to athletes who are typically on the injured list and don´t pay our teachers enough.{#lang_emotions_shy}

1524.       lesluv
722 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 01:33 am

Sign language: week 23

 

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1525.       aylin_yalin
13 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 01:50 am

A new clip for Yalin.. Çok Üzgünüm Kalamadým {#lang_emotions_razz}

1526.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 01:56 am

 

Quoting lesluv

Sign language: week 23

 

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 lol i wonder by who ? lol

1527.       lesluv
722 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 02:00 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 lol i wonder by who ? lol

 

 ha ha and where do you apply for the job!!!?{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1528.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 02:06 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 ha ha and where do you apply for the job!!!?{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 {#lang_emotions_angel} lol

1529.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:29 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 lol i wonder by who ? lol

 

 Maybe this is where handsom has disappeared to. 

1530.       lesluv
722 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 09:42 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Maybe this is where handsom has disappeared to. 

 

 to do the de-balling or to get de-balled ha ha

1531.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 04:40 pm

We seem to have a new member...from ´the other side´...........

 

      Irishclove
16 posts
Private message


Quote
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 08:46 am

 

Oh well, I wish i could spell though.

Quote: Mother Theresa

God will not give me anything I cannot handle, I just wish he did not trust me so much.

 

 

 

{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1532.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 05:04 pm

The Flesh Eating Bacterium

   

 

Flesh eating bacteria can be found in supermarkets, hospitals, holes made in dirt, piles made of dirt, spider bites, the waters of our harbors and in the bite of the komodo dragon. Everywhere in the world, it exists to emerge from it´s dimension into ours in a way befitting those methods employed by Lovecraft´s elder gods. Only here, there is no gauzy poetry or occult description to shield the eye and mind; the terror of this real invader lies in the shock of it´s punch and the blooming speed of an attack that is illiterate, wet and brutal.

The only thing warding this unholy terror away from your soft flesh is your dead barrier of skin and the addition or subtraction of an enzyme on the bacterium itself. The mutation between one strain and another is random, making the separation between coming down with Necrotizing Fasciitis or Strep Throat the choice between a bad day and the worst day of your life.

 

The battleground to save the body hinges on keeping the skin intact once the infection settles in. Many times this is impossible and the skin slides off like a rotten tomato to aerate the wound and aid consumption of the host. The window created by the opening skin fuels the spread of infection, creating more surface area for the bacteria to cover and consume.

 

Explicit Content!{#lang_emotions_puking}{#lang_emotions_puking}

http://people.tribe.net/mike_c/blog/5b15dd41-819a-41c5-95ae-b38ea677181e

1533.       bod
5999 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 05:07 pm

What a cheery thought - and just as I was drinking a mug of soup!!!

1534.       doudi94
845 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 06:43 pm

The first female lady mayor in the southeren part of egypt just took command lol, (these are teh rural areas of egypt that are like puch line of all jokes )

her name is eva habil (shes a christian by the way),

so thats good for them lookgn to how they see ladies theer anyway

u dont know these parts of egypt are always the parts that come in soaps and stuff and these people are really backwards, i m too lazy to type anything about them though.

1535.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 06:47 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

The first female lady mayor in the southeren part of egypt just took command lol, (these are teh rural areas of egypt that are like puch line of all jokes )

her name is eva habil (shes a christian by the way),

so thats good for them lookgn to how they see ladies theer anyway

u dont know these parts of egypt are always the parts that come in soaps and stuff and these people are really backwards, i m too lazy to type anything about them though.

 

 Huh? What a nonsense generalisation.

1536.       doudi94
845 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 06:59 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Huh? What a nonsense generalisation.

 

Trudy, you dont them.....

Let me give you an example,

Somebody else´ss cow will walka nd eat friom their field okay? They get mad and go kill the owners of the cow. They guy who they killed, if he has a son, they will amke him go and kill the guy

and teh son ahs to be of age okay? And if hes not, then they bring him up to hate that family, teach him how to kill, etc etc

For ex. theyd give the job of butcher so he knows hot to kill, and then these feuds have been going on for centuries that they no longer know why theyre killing, they forgot, and wherever you go tehyll go after u, thats how they are, and they also have very wierd beliefs. And if the son refuses to kill, then he is a shame on the family and must eb killed himself.!

what do you think abtu them now?

1537.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:08 pm

I still think that it is not good to generalise all people from a country (or half one - like you yourself do with South-Egypt) because of the actions of a few idiots. Wasn´t it very rude to mock with countries/ethniticities, you said yourself?

1538.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:14 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

The first female lady mayor in the southeren part of egypt just took command lol, (these are teh rural areas of egypt that are like puch line of all jokes )

her name is eva habil (shes a christian by the way),

so thats good for them lookgn to how they see ladies theer anyway

u dont know these parts of egypt are always the parts that come in soaps and stuff and these people are really backwards, i m too lazy to type anything about them though.

 

 What do you mean here?

1539.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:26 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Trudy, you dont them.....

Let me give you an example,

Somebody else´ss cow will walka nd eat friom their field okay? They get mad and go kill the owners of the cow. They guy who they killed, if he has a son, they will amke him go and kill the guy

and teh son ahs to be of age okay? And if hes not, then they bring him up to hate that family, teach him how to kill, etc etc

For ex. theyd give the job of butcher so he knows hot to kill, and then these feuds have been going on for centuries that they no longer know why theyre killing, they forgot, and wherever you go tehyll go after u, thats how they are, and they also have very wierd beliefs. And if the son refuses to kill, then he is a shame on the family and must eb killed himself.!

what do you think abtu them now?

 

Yes doudi,we tend to make jokes about them,but when it comes to manners,behaviours,generous,politness..and actually most of the good nature that you seek,you can find it in them and also we lable good people by it

By saying..heyyy this man is from the south,that means you trust his words,his manner..etc

So i believe you got things all wrong!

They are v.v.v stubborn ,and when they think they are right,its out of the question to convince them otherwise that is why they were materials for many jokes.

 

1540.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:47 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

They are v.v.v stubborn ,and when they think they are right,its out of the question to convince them otherwise that is why they were materials for many jokes.

 

Seems to me quite human, to be stubborn and insist you are right. If that means one can joke about it - fine to me - it means also everyone can joke about all other groups, countries, races, ethniticities etc. So if joking for this reason about people from South-Egypt is right, I can´t see a reason why joking about people from Cairo/North-Egypt is not permitted.

1541.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:55 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

Yes doudi,we tend to make jokes about them,but when it comes to manners,behaviours,generous,politness..and actually most of the good nature that you seek,you can find it in them and also we lable good people by it

By saying..heyyy this man is from the south,that means you trust his words,his manner..etc

So i believe you got things all wrong!

They are v.v.v stubborn ,and when they think they are right,its out of the question to convince them otherwise that is why they were materials for many jokes.

 

Sorry - that comment sounds a bit stubbornist to me - I hope we don´t get a backlash from all the stubborn people on the site. {#lang_emotions_razz}

1542.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 07:56 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Seems to me quite human, to be stubborn and insist you are right. If that means one can joke about it - fine to me - it means also everyone can joke about all other groups, countries, races, ethniticities etc. So if joking for this reason about people from South-Egypt is right, I can´t see a reason why joking about people from Cairo/North-Egypt is not permitted.

 

 Well,its not as you think it is...

Ýt is like..if i say the water boils at 100c and they think its not true,then they dont accept

Ý show proves,i get other´s people to say same..i.... no matter what,they refuse to hear.

.That is mostly how they are,and that was material for jokes,but as i said in my above post,they are very generous,polite people,have ethics and traditions that we almost lost here in Cairo in our race with modern life

There is a system there,its more like Turkish,we have the big families,where elders have the superior words

So i dont mind if we all can be like them,and be as we used to be.

But be aware NEVER tell those jokes infront of them..or they might....!

Of course they very much well known of those jokes,but some gets REALLY made if they been sid infront of them!

 

Actually things in Egypt are more very simplistic,we do make jokes of even ourselves

Ýt is permitted to make jokes about Cairo,Alex,north Egypt,West East,whatever.

Ýts not a problem here and never was.

Ýt was our way of dealing with things,even using the jokes in political issues.

When we are happy,we make jokes,when we are sad,we also make jokes about it..if thats make sense.

1543.       doudi94
845 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 12:55 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 Well,its not as you think it is...

Ýt is like..if i say the water boils at 100c and they think its not true,then they dont accept

Ý show proves,i get other´s people to say same..i.... no matter what,they refuse to hear.

There is a system there,its more like Turkish,we have the big families,where elders have the superior words.

That is mostly how they are,and that was material for jokes,but as i said in my above post,they are very generous,polite people,have ethics and traditions that we almost lost here in Cairo in our race with moder life

So i dont mind if we all can be like them,and be as we used to be.

 

Actually things in Egypt are more very simplistic,we do make jokes of ever ourselves

Ýt is permitted to make jokes about Cairo,Alex,north Egypt,West East,whatever.

Ýts not a problem here and never was.

Ýt was our way of dealing with things,even using the jokes in political issues.

When we are happy,we make jokes,when we are sad,we also make jokes about it..if thats make sense.

omg that is soo true! anyway, abput the southern egypt thing, the truth is i hear lots of things and i havent been living her for so long,i get things from jokes, and about their stubbornness, canli is right, u tell them water boils at 100 C theyll say no! I mean they argue abotu the pointless, but okay, so not to be makign a generalisation, not all of hem, alot of them dont like it there come to cairo and go to college and become great people so there are always people who are different, were just saying that theyre the punch line of some jokes thats it, but alot of things are used as punch lines anythiugn we joke about everyhting and anything! Its not that big of a deal, and always when they wanna et the picture of an egyptian they get these people (like in commercials and stuff) anyway, you haver to really live here to get this!

 

1544.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 05:11 pm

First Cyber-Bully Trial

 

A shocking story about a young girl who has committed suicide after a nieghtbour set up a fake MySpace account to bully and intimidate her.

 

Just  be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.

1545.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 06:13 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

Just  be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.

 

 Libralady, you are blowing what happened here completely out of proportion if you feel the two are comparable.

 

You are also somewhat guilty of being one of those people who likes to appear neutral and respectful, but happily make sly little jokes about, ouh let me think, vegetarians (!) and, in the case of the recent arguments over moderation, very carefully throw a tiny little match into the forum and walk away tutting as the flame causes a fire

1546.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 06:16 pm

I was going to post a comment......but I think I will quietly go back into my hidding place!{#lang_emotions_scared}

1547.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 06:19 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

......but I think I will quietly go back into my hidding place!{#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 Well I am done now, so will come and join you!!  (did you remember to bring food and drink - I don´t know how long we will have to stay there )

1548.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 06:21 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Well I am done now, so will come and join you!!  (did you remember to bring food and drink - I don´t know how long we will have to stay there )

 

The bunker is well stocked....I think we will survive any hostile attacks for several days!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1549.       lady in red
6947 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 06:55 pm

 

Quoting libralady

First Cyber-Bully Trial

 

A shocking story about a young girl who has committed suicide after a nieghtbour set up a fake MySpace account to bully and intimidate her.

 

Just  be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.

 

A shocking story indeed and surely the woman concerned must have been mentally unbalanced to think of doing such a thing.    However ´in view of recent problems´?  You think people are being bullied?  It looked to me as though everybody involved in recent ´debates´ was giving as good as they got.

1550.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:04 pm

 

Quoting libralady

First Cyber-Bully Trial

 

A shocking story about a young girl who has committed suicide after a nieghtbour set up a fake MySpace account to bully and intimidate her.

 

Just  be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.

 

Sad, so sad, I think too many don´t realize how vulnerable others can be. Here is another shocking cyber incident....

 

MIAMI (Reuters) - A Florida teenager committed suicide by drug overdose in front of a webcam streaming live video to the Internet and some viewers may have egged him on, authorities said on Friday.

 

There can be real consequences to rudeness.

1551.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:09 pm

Just as I expected, the ones I thought would jump on me did, with the exception of one who has not yet posted against it.  When the boot is on the other foot comes to mind.............................

1552.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:11 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Just as I expected, the ones I thought would jump on me did, with the exception of one who has not yet posted against it.  When the boot is on the other foot comes to mind.............................

 

 Jump on you?  As I said, you preach "respect" but enjoy lighting the fires.... 

 

When the boot is on the other foot?  I really do not understand what comparison you are making here. 

1553.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:27 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

MIAMI (Reuters) - A Florida teenager committed suicide by drug overdose in front of a webcam streaming live video to the Internet and some viewers may have egged him on, authorities said on Friday.

 

There can be real consequences to rudeness.

 

I think this is well beyond rude.....watching someone die for kicks......it´s sickening. 

I can´t imagine how the family of this person feels. 

1554.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:30 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

There can be real consequences to rudeness.

 

F**king hell, what on earth is going on here!!!?!?!?!  Sorry, this is the first time I ever swore here, but how the hell can you compare a suicidal teen on some social networking site with people arguing on this website about deleted posts?

 

More to the point, why the f**king hell am I wasting any further time reading such dross?   

1555.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:35 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

F**king hell, what on earth is going on here!!!?!?!?!  Sorry, this is the first time I ever swore here, but how the hell can you compare a suicidal teen on some social networking site with people arguing on this website about deleted posts?

 

More to the point, why the f**king hell am I wasting any further time reading such dross?   

 

 Gee, I don´t know the answer to that, but it is evident you are rather distressed by a few words on a forum from someone you don´t know.

 

My point is, being polite and considerate is always a good policy to follow, in particular with people whose mental/emotional state you have little knowledge about.

 

Words are powerful.

1556.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 10:43 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 Gee, I don´t know the answer to that, but it is evident you are rather distressed by a few words on a forum from someone you don´t know.

 

My point is, being polite and considerate is always a good policy to follow, in particular with people whose mental/emotional state you have little knowledge about.

 

Words are powerful.

 

 I am not distressed, I am just soooooooooo frustrated that you blow such things out of all proportion!  {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

1557.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 04:32 pm

A song for people who still call Isanbul constantipole!!!

 

 

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it´s Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it´s Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you´ve a date in Constantinople
She´ll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can´t say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can´t go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works
That´s nobody´s business but the Turks

1558.       libralady
5152 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 06:48 pm

The clear starry sky tonight (tonight being 4:00pm {#lang_emotions_confused}  and the magnificent sunset we have just had............... now the temperature has dropped to freezing {#lang_emotions_scared}and we expect snow tonight

1559.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Nov 2008 Sun 02:14 pm

Snow! 

1560.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Nov 2008 Sun 03:52 pm

Christian woman beaten on the head with a Bible by a gay man....

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f4b_1227396676

1561.       doudi94
845 posts
 23 Nov 2008 Sun 04:46 pm

This is NOT right!!!!

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL6_y5yiI-U&feature=related

1562.       doudi94
845 posts
 23 Nov 2008 Sun 04:49 pm

OKAY IM laughing sooooooooooooooooooooo hard!

Ill just tell you the title:

Titanic, Saudi version!!!

 

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvmTxYcDFjQ&feature=related

1563.       doudi94
845 posts
 23 Nov 2008 Sun 05:11 pm

Man this is sooo weird!!!

the title is in turkish but i ahve no idea what its ays!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faPLpcsfbIw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4AOL92Qto&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVNnHKOxIL8&feature=related

1564.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 03:57 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Man this is sooo weird!!!

the title is in turkish but i ahve no idea what its ays!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faPLpcsfbIw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4AOL92Qto&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVNnHKOxIL8&feature=related

 

Doudi - the title means something like ´It´s a strange world´  These images are part of an ´Art´ Exhibit - some people have very strange ideas of what they consider to be art.  {#lang_emotions_sad}  

1565.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 08:47 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Christian woman beaten on the head with a Bible by a gay man....

 

 How noble of her to forgive him

1566.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 08:50 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

This is NOT right!!!!

 

 What is not right about it?? I didn´t watch the entire video because of the bad sound quality, but to me it seemed like some people who were just having a laugh?

1567.       Trudy
7887 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 08:51 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 How noble of her to forgive him

 

 Happily for her it wasn´t such a thick Authorised Version....

 

1568.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 08:55 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Happily for her it wasn´t such a thick Authorised Version....

 

 

 This happened to me all the time in Catholic school!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

 

Elisabeth, stop talking.....Elisabeth, stop laughing.....Elisabeth, stop fidgeting.....BOOM!!! 

 

I could have told this guy that it doesn´t work!

1569.       femmeous
2642 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 09:11 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 This happened to me all the time in Catholic school!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

 

Elisabeth, stop talking.....Elisabeth, stop laughing.....Elisabeth, stop fidgeting.....BOOM!!! 

 

I could have told this guy that it doesn´t work!

 

 i feel sorry for you lisa. i didnt know that in amerika they abused angels like you. our comjunist leader was right that children in amerika are poor and unhappy.

1570.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 09:13 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i feel sorry for you lisa. i didnt know that in amerika they abused angels like you. our comjunist leader was right that children in amerika are poor and unhappy.

 

 Were you a memper of the comjunist party?  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1571.       femmeous
2642 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 09:15 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Were you a memper of the comjunist party?  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 oh, pls, dont change the subject, amerika is bed lol

1572.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Nov 2008 Mon 11:55 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i feel sorry for you lisa. i didnt know that in amerika they abused angels like you. our comjunist leader was right that children in amerika are poor and unhappy.

 

 Which brings up another discussion..if being poor means having a vehicle and a cell phone..I go to the grocery and the lady in front of me has food stamps...then her cell phone rings..noticed that her cell phone was actually a newer model than mine..I pay for my food, go out to the parking lot and she is getting into a very nice Toyota Camry...

 

I´m doing something wrong here.....{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1573.       vineyards
1954 posts
 25 Nov 2008 Tue 03:32 am

They don´t even sell Toyota Camrys here as they are too expensive tax-wise (big engine) and they burn gas like there is no tomorrow.

1574.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Nov 2008 Tue 08:39 pm

"Lost" Pyramid Found Buried in Egypt


Andrew Bossone in Cairo
for National Geographic News


June 5, 2008


The pyramid of an ancient Egyptian pharaoh has been rediscovered after being buried for generations, archaeologists announced today. (See photos and video.)


The pyramid is thought to house the tomb of King Menkauhor, who is believed to have ruled in Egypt´s 5th dynasty for eight years in the mid-2400s B.C.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCJ8nqMKbA

1575.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Nov 2008 Tue 08:58 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Which brings up another discussion..if being poor means having a vehicle and a cell phone..I go to the grocery and the lady in front of me has food stamps...then her cell phone rings..noticed that her cell phone was actually a newer model than mine..I pay for my food, go out to the parking lot and she is getting into a very nice Toyota Camry...

 

I´m doing something wrong here.....{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

 Oh quit your whinging Teas...just get pregnant, quit your job, list the father as "unknown" on the birth certificate and you too can get an iPhone!!

 

Actually, what really really REALLY gets me angry is when you see people in line with food stamps but they have a manicure and a pedicure!  I don´t even get one unless I am treating myself!! 

1576.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Nov 2008 Tue 09:41 pm

Which reminds me of some stories from the ER... a person says that they cannot pay for their medication, then they are taking out their phone from a Coach bag... or a person says that he´s not worried about his HIV positive status because Obama will find cure for AIDS...

1577.       lady in red
6947 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 12:37 pm

It seems women can be ´dudu´s´ too!  lol 

´Terri Wilson was booted out of Turkey last Saturday when she was put on a ferry to Rhodes from Marmaris after she was found to have been living in the country illegally for at least the last nine months.

Ms Wilson had fled Akbuk and Didim in April and Voices Newspaper had exposed her conniving ways, by getting a developer to build her a luxury villa at Yesiltepe and fleecing thousands in Turkish Lira from well-meaning Turkish and expat residents.´

Full Story

1578.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 02:02 am

Just when you think you knew someone...you realize you didn´t know them at all.{#lang_emotions_confused}

1579.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 03:40 am

Facebook group called "Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak must be tried for crimes against humanity"


 

Egyptian President Mohammed Hosni Mubarak has committed many crimes ranging from torture of the Egyptian people to the murder of political dissidents to the illegal trade of Egyptian resources without their consent.
He is an illegitimate leader who has and is continuing to hold power in Egypt by terrorizing the Egyptian people!

He needs to be internationally condemned for the use of torture and false imprisonment against political activists and ordinary Egyptians.

Wikipedia says that this guy has been the president of Egypt since October 1981!!!!! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_scared}

1580.       lesluv
722 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:31 am

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/26/uk-crime-father-rape-sentenced

 

A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.

He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.

Jayne Ludlam, director of children´s and young people´s services at Sheffield city council, said social workers had become aware of the "harrowing" abuse in June, and that an independent review into the case had already been launched.

In a case with echoes of the Austrian man Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in an underground dungeon for 24 years and fathered seven children with her, Sheffield crown court heard how the man, who is 56 and divorced, began abusing the sisters when they were between eight and 10, and that they were badly beaten to make them comply.

He "took pleasure" in assaulting the girls, the court had heard, and the violent attacks would stop only while the children were pregnant. "His younger daughter told of the frightening habit her father had of putting her head next to the flames of their gas fire and that when she struggled to get away on certain occasions she burnt her eyes," Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting, told the court. They were kept out of school when their injuries were visible, and the family moved repeatedly to avoid suspicion. The girls´ mother left home in the early 1990s; a brother also lived with them until his teens.

The court heard that in 1988 suspicions were raised at the victims´ school due to their injuries but these were blamed on bullying. On one occasion one of the women was asked by a doctor if her father was the father of her own children, which she flatly denied. They also called Childline, the court was told, and asked for a guarantee that their children would not be taken away, but hung up when this assurance could not be given.

Sentencing, Judge Alan Goldsack QC said: "The phrase ´it is difficult to imagine a worse case´ is much overused and rarely, if ever, true. But I can say that in nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases and 14 as a family judge the combination of aggravating circumstances here is the worst I have come across."

Ludlam said: "Due to the seriousness of this case an independent review has already been launched which will look into the circumstances surrounding the case and the contact the agencies had with the victims."

 

 

 

Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is{#lang_emotions_confused}

1581.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 11:14 am

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/26/uk-crime-father-rape-sentenced

 

A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.

He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.

Jayne Ludlam, director of children´s and young people´s services at Sheffield city council, said social workers had become aware of the "harrowing" abuse in June, and that an independent review into the case had already been launched.

In a case with echoes of the Austrian man Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in an underground dungeon for 24 years and fathered seven children with her, Sheffield crown court heard how the man, who is 56 and divorced, began abusing the sisters when they were between eight and 10, and that they were badly beaten to make them comply.

He "took pleasure" in assaulting the girls, the court had heard, and the violent attacks would stop only while the children were pregnant. "His younger daughter told of the frightening habit her father had of putting her head next to the flames of their gas fire and that when she struggled to get away on certain occasions she burnt her eyes," Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting, told the court. They were kept out of school when their injuries were visible, and the family moved repeatedly to avoid suspicion. The girls´ mother left home in the early 1990s; a brother also lived with them until his teens.

The court heard that in 1988 suspicions were raised at the victims´ school due to their injuries but these were blamed on bullying. On one occasion one of the women was asked by a doctor if her father was the father of her own children, which she flatly denied. They also called Childline, the court was told, and asked for a guarantee that their children would not be taken away, but hung up when this assurance could not be given.

Sentencing, Judge Alan Goldsack QC said: "The phrase ´it is difficult to imagine a worse case´ is much overused and rarely, if ever, true. But I can say that in nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases and 14 as a family judge the combination of aggravating circumstances here is the worst I have come across."

Ludlam said: "Due to the seriousness of this case an independent review has already been launched which will look into the circumstances surrounding the case and the contact the agencies had with the victims."

 

 

 

Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is{#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 There are no words to decribe adequately what a monster this man is.  How did this escape the attention of so many people?

1582.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 11:37 am

That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?

1583.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 12:42 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?

 

 I mean doctors, teachers etc etc  Surely someone in authority would questions why the girls were have so many children with out a father so to speak, and what about all the abortions they had between them?  This is what puzzles me.  They could easily not be noticed by neighbours when they were moved around regularly, and of course in some places people don´t even know their neighbours let along notice what they are getting up to.

 

The whole situation is dreadfully sad and I hope these girls and their children can move on with their lives.

1584.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 04:53 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/26/uk-crime-father-rape-sentenced

 

A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.

 

He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.

 

Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is{#lang_emotions_confused}

And on that same page was this:

 


David Brown: Paedofile who ran an orphanage

 

British charity worker David Brown has been sentenced to 20 years in jail for sexually abusing children in his care at an orphanage he opened in Tirana, Albania, in 2001. Here is footage of Brown, a charity worker from Edinburgh and an evangelical Christian, taken from videos made to promote the work of the orphanage, which he called His Children

 

Ahh...what is happening in this world?

 

1585.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:00 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

Ahh...what is happening in this world?

 

 The same thing that has happened all through history Alameda.  The big difference now is that it is SPOKEN ABOUT (in most countries) and people are convicted of these vile acts.

 

1586.       femmeous
2642 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:47 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?

 

 i do. and i always get in trouble.

1587.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 05:56 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i do. and i always get in trouble.

 

 

Thank goodness there are people like you who dont worry about causing offence where such things are concerned 

 

(The rest of the offence you cause is inexcusable)

1588.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

Thank goodness there are people like you who dont worry about causing offence where such things are concerned 

 

(The rest of the offence you cause is inexcusable)

 

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone.  I did just that tonight, on the way home from the Gym........... a man lying on the footpath, his bike by his side, so I go to the nect junction and turn around.  I pull up beside the man, and wind down my window, "what is wrong " I shout, " have you had an accident"  he is holding his head with the most vacant look on his face, and then I notice the mobile phone in his hand..................... I suddenly realised he is not on this planet, he was so high on drugs I am sure he did now know which planet he was on either!  At least I could drive on knowing that I had not left a man that could have been dying.................

1589.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:05 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone.  I did just that tonight, on the way home from the Gym........... a man lying on the footpath, his bike by his side, so I go to the nect junction and turn around.  I pull up beside the man, and wind down my window, "what is wrong " I shout, " have you had an accident"  he is holding his head with the most vacant look on his face, and then I notice the mobile phone in his hand..................... I suddenly realised he is not on this planet, he was so high on drugs I am sure he did now know which planet he was on either!  At least I could drive on knowing that I had not left a man that could have been dying.................

 

 Ouh hell that happened to me recently too!!!  I left home at 6.30am one morning and a man was lying on the footpath.  A woman in front of me stepped over him (!!!).  I rushed over to him, mobile in hand, ready to call an ambulance and found he was absolutely high on drugs!  I decided against offering him in for tea though, but told him it was a bit cold to lay on concrete and that he should go home!!!

1590.       lady in red
6947 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:08 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone. 

 

I must have missed something - carry on from where?

 

BTW that was a risky thing to do in this day and age.

1591.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:13 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Quoting libralady

 OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone. 

 

I must have missed something - carry on from where?

 

BTW that was a risky thing to do in this day and age.

 

 Well there was a sort of tone in the previous message, and this is not the first time I have put myself in this sort of situation and it wont be the last. {#lang_emotions_lol} I am not one to walk on by.............

1592.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 09:30 pm

I have just learnt what "sui generis" means....

1593.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 11:19 pm

Green Party Leader is first ethnic Turk to be elected as a major party political leader in Germany.

 

"Whether the Obama factor helped or not, the son of a Turkish immigrant – who describes himself as a secular Muslim not averse to the odd glass of vodka – won the leadership of the country´s Green Party this month, shattering a racial barrier that had held sway in post-war Germany for decades."

 

Whatever his ethnicity, this is a historical moment.

1594.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Nov 2008 Thu 11:28 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

I have just learnt what "sui generis" means....

 

 The one and only {#lang_emotions_rolleyes} aren´t we all ???

1595.       bod
5999 posts
 28 Nov 2008 Fri 03:08 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

I have just learnt what "sui generis" means....

 

They make glass reinforced plastic lol

http://www.suigeneris.co.uk/

1596.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 28 Nov 2008 Fri 03:39 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Green Party Leader is first ethnic Turk to be elected as a major party political leader in Germany.

 

"Whether the Obama factor helped or not, the son of a Turkish immigrant – who describes himself as a secular Muslim not averse to the odd glass of vodka – won the leadership of the country´s Green Party this month, shattering a racial barrier that had held sway in post-war Germany for decades."

 

Whatever his ethnicity, this is a historical moment.

 

 Yes. Unfortunately because of the political system in Germany I doubt if it will make much difference. ´Many people´ have speculated that his election (Özdemir is his name if I remember correctly) will make it easier for Turkey to enter the EU. However, he is in the stream of people who want Turkey to enter the EU, by having a strict control on the developments there as becoming more transparant, more democratic etc etc. People in Turkey who expect that by the election his person TR will gain more easily access to EU will be disappointed I am afraid!

 

But it is a really good thing he was elected. Hope he will be able to make the German Turks engage more in politics, so that the tendency of prejudge or even discrimination in Germany will go down. I also hope it has a positive influence on the Netherlands, where recently quite some inhabitants of the city of Rotterdam weren´t happy to see a Maroccan become their major!!

1597.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Nov 2008 Fri 03:43 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

I also hope it has a positive influence on the Netherlands, where recently quite some inhabitants of the city of Rotterdam weren´t happy to see a Maroccan become their major!!

 

I´m happy with the choice for Aboutaleb! He´s not only more (not exactly) in my political direction than current major Ivo, he´s also much more good-looking!!

1598.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Nov 2008 Fri 11:59 pm

Anyone fancy  holiday in Benidorm??  They are trying to crack down on anti social behaviour that include having sex on the beach. {#lang_emotions_shy} and putting out towels early to reserve sunbeds!!!  I can agree with the humans defacating in the sea and the litter but as for walking on the beach after midnight......... seems a bit extreme........... surely not that many people have sex on the beach??? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

"BENIDORM council is set to introduce new bylaws governing the use of its beaches.

Under the proposed new rules anyone caught using the beach between the hours of midnight and 07.00 will be fined 750 euros while placing an umbrella on the beach early in the morning in order to reserve a space for later in the day will see fines of 150 euros issued.

The raft of new measures also include a 120 euro fine for playing football or tennis in unauthorised areas and a massive 1,000 euro fine for swimming when the red flag is flying.

People who go to the toilet in the sea or on the beach will be fined 150 euros while those who try to sell goods will have to stump up 300 euros.

Taking glass objects onto the beach or breaking them will incur 750 euro fine and those that allow their animals onto the beach will get hit with a 250 euro punishment.

Normal fishing and fishing with a harpoon will generate fines of 750 and 1,100 euros respectively and the handing out of promotional literature will receive a 300 euro sanction.

Beaches councillor, Josefa Pèrez, said the measures were needed to reduce the amount of litter being left on the beaches and to halt the growing number of parties being held on the beaches."

Source: Costa News

1599.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 12:27 am

 

Quoting Trudy

I´m happy with the choice for Aboutaleb! He´s not only more (not exactly) in my political direction than current major Ivo, he´s also much more good-looking!!

 

 When I heard the news of Rotterdam, I knew it couldn´t be you who was against

1600.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 01:25 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 When I heard the news of Rotterdam, I knew it couldn´t be you who was against

 

 Nope, Ahmed is an ´LD´.....

1601.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 11:59 pm

Mr. Pin Zui inflates a balloon through his eye at the award ceremony of The Final of Miss tourism International

China

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03720/03720744.jpg    http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03720/03720745.jpg

1602.       lesluv
722 posts
 01 Dec 2008 Mon 06:22 am

before booking your next holiday!!

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/3534072/In-pictures-worlds-most-dangerous-places.html?image=19

 

 

1603.       Trudy
7887 posts
 01 Dec 2008 Mon 08:14 am

 

 

 Hmmm, South-Africa is on one of these pictures as well... {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 

 

1604.       teaschip
3870 posts
 01 Dec 2008 Mon 07:32 pm

thehandsom is back...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1605.       lady in red
6947 posts
 01 Dec 2008 Mon 09:33 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

thehandsom is back...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 Teaschip is one of the select few who was able to post in Off Topic today! 

1606.       lesluv
722 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 02:51 am

Oh I can too thanks to your link LIR{#lang_emotions_flowers}

1607.       bydand
755 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 12:16 pm

I couldn´t get on here yesterday so a day late but December 1st 1955 was the date when Rosa Parks was arrested and fined for failing to give up her seat on a bus to a white person in USA. In those days blacks had to use the rear entrance and sit in the rear seats and give way to whites if the bus was full. Just goes to show how far America has come in a few short years.

1608.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 02:14 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Hmmm, South-Africa is on one of these pictures as well... {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 Yes, Johanesburg is the most dangerous city IN THE WORLD.

1609.       teaschip
3870 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 05:48 pm

I have been to three of these countries...even rented a car and drove around.  Didn´t accure to me as being dangerous....{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1610.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 06:11 pm

Robotic Fuel Arm

A robotic arm refuels while motorists stay in their cars. The robot recognizes the type of car by scanning an affixed sticker and knows exactly where to find the filler cap and what fuel the car takes. Hollands

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96968/96968771.jpg    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96968/96968772.jpg

 

Hmm..

I wonder what it will do If i dont open the filler cap from inside of the car..

1611.       teaschip
3870 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 06:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Robotic Fuel Arm

A robotic arm refuels while motorists stay in their cars. The robot recognizes the type of car by scanning an affixed sticker and knows exactly where to find the filler cap and what fuel the car takes. Hollands

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96968/96968771.jpg    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96968/96968772.jpg

 

Hmm..

I wonder what it will do If i dont open the filler cap from inside of the car..

 

 How does it know if I want regular or premium...  I like the concept, since I hate pumping gas.  Locally, we have a few gas stations that actually have real people who pump your gas....that´s where all of us lazy people go..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1612.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 06:50 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm 

 

This woman has never worked and her family are also heading in that direction.  This make me seeth!!!! (angry smilie)  There is always an excuse............... how about get off your lazy **** 

1613.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 08:07 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm 

 

This woman has never worked and her family are also heading in that direction.  This make me seeth!!!! (angry smilie)  There is always an excuse............... how about get off your lazy **** 

 

 Yes, I know someone like that. She was a leech when she was in school. You know, you go out and the other never has the money to pay the bill, but they order generous portions for themselves. As things developed, she never had a job. Now she gets income from the gov. She has medical, dental, subsidized housing. It annoys me and others who know her a great deal.

 

Then, I have another friiend who has worked all her life, she recently had brain cancer and is in a wheelchair. She has tried to get a job, but she really can´t work. She applied for disability, but was turned down! She had to get a lawyer to fight for her benefits, which she paid into for years.

1614.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 08:16 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm 

 

This woman has never worked and her family are also heading in that direction.  This make me seeth!!!! (angry smilie)  There is always an excuse............... how about get off your lazy **** 

 

I agree, there are people who make the "system" so unfair.  I am proud that we have such a system, but people abuse it so badly.

 

It seems so unfair when you have to work so hard just to pay bills, and the only way you can get the things you want is to save money, while there are people lying about disabilities and have never worked in their lives, who get these things instantly.

 

I know of a family whose 3 children ALL said they had psychological problems, and were allowed to make their boyfriends their offical "carers" - they get free housing, car, bills paid - everything, plus the boyfriend gets a wage as a carer.   They freely admit to everyone that they are just cheating the system.

 

I moved house recently and noticed my neighbours lawn was always uncut and messy.  The next time I went to cut mine, I offered to cut theirs, and did so every time after that.  After a few months I learned that none of the family work, the eldest son could easily cut it and is "unemployed", the father is classed as disabled because of "back problems" but sits at a computer all day and night playing games (probably the worst thing you can do for a bad back!) and they had a nice new kitchen delivered and fitted for free a few weeks ago.

 

Needless to say, I stopped cutting their grass!

1615.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 09:17 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I agree, there are people who make the "system" so unfair.  I am proud that we have such a system, but people abuse it so badly. 

 

 I agree with you and am proud we have a system to help those who need it. It would be nice if we could figure out a way to stop the abuse. I really think there is much less of that than some think. I know another man who couldn´t get his disability, he died waiting.

 

While I do get annoyed with my "friend" who gets subsidized housing, medical care and all. I would not want to be in her place.

 

I think the constant being on the dole so to speak has taken a toll on her capabilities. She doesn´t think she can do anything. IOW, she is psychologically and emotionally stunted.

 

I have known others who got "help", used it well and are now contributing members of society.

1616.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Dec 2008 Tue 09:22 pm

Chocolate Castle

Chocolate castle inside a hotel in Shenyang, northeast China´s Liaoning province. The chocolate Castle is made of 213kg black chocolate, 57kg white chocolate and 14kg icing sugar and took 4 chefs 2 months to finish. The 7.3m long, 1.92m wide and 3.38m chocolate castle is considered the largest one in the world.

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03722/03722615.jpg    http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03722/03722616.jpg

1617.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 12:23 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv-entertainment/tv/todays-tv/2008/12/02/man-hunters-sex-trips-for-girls-115875-20940439/

 

Sex Trips for Girls

 

I am watching this on Channel 4 right now!  Women going to the Domincan Republic to find young men!

 

Not sure what to make of it, the women really look their age and the men look like young boys!

 

 

1618.       lesluv
722 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 12:28 am

 

Quoting libralady

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv-entertainment/tv/todays-tv/2008/12/02/man-hunters-sex-trips-for-girls-115875-20940439/

 

Sex Trips for Girls

 

I am watching this on Channel 4 right now!  Women going to the Domincan Republic to find young men!

 

Not sure what to make of it, the women really look their age and the men look like young boys!

 

 

Joanne, 54, has spent £5,000 in a year on holidays to see her 34-year-old resort entertainer boyfriend, Spaghetti, who admits to camera he has more than one girlfriend. Although the resort officially frowns upon its staff romancing tourists, they know love-struck women will keep returning, bumping up profits.

 

 

 

Companies using duduism to bump up profits.....sex sells...it seems{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1619.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 12:45 am

 

Quoting lesluv

Companies using duduism to bump up profits.....sex sells...it seems{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

This is terrible, tragic news for our Turkish dudus

Too much competition....

1620.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 09:39 am

 

Quoting lesluv

34-year-old resort entertainer boyfriend, Spaghetti,

 

 Seriously???  Spaghetti???  His nickname doesn´t bode well for duduism in the DR, so I think Turkish dudu´s will be ok.

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1621.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 12:18 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Seriously???  Spaghetti???  His nickname doesn´t bode well for duduism in the DR, so I think Turkish dudu´s will be ok.

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 He must be a Pastafarian! 

1622.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 02:47 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 He must be a Pastafarian! 

 

You are too funny lately - Gentleman in Red must be constantly in stiches! lol

1623.       lady in red
6947 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 03:02 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

You are too funny lately - Gentleman in Red must be constantly in stiches! lol

 

 Although often severely tempted - I swear I´ve never raised a finger to him! {#lang_emotions_angel}

1624.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 03:27 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

Joanne, 54, has spent £5,000 in a year on holidays to see her 34-year-old resort entertainer boyfriend, Spaghetti, who admits to camera he has more than one girlfriend. Although the resort officially frowns upon its staff romancing tourists, they know love-struck women will keep returning, bumping up profits.

 

 

 

Companies using duduism to bump up profits.....sex sells...it seems{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

 To be honest, I don´t blame the boys one bit!  They earn about £20 a week and these "single" women, well past their sell by date are far wealthier than they will ever hope to be, that is why they go for the older woman and not the young slim nubile ones! 

 

  ............ one comment by Spaghetti when his 54 yr old "girlfriend" was about to leave in a taxi, was "you must be rich to afford a taxi", next sentance "I´m hungry".  In other words, do you have any money left?

 

The 67 yr old who had a 30 yr old boyfriend, would not have sex with him on the first holiday, or the second holiday, but then went back again and spent the week with him "24/7" as she said, warts and all!!

 

They (women) said, don´t judge us............ but sadly all I can see is a couple of women desparate for company, so they go the the Dominican to find that company.......... they would not find a 30 yr old in the UK who would be willing to sleep with a 67 yr old.

1625.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 03:38 pm

I think we all understand the "whys" and we know that those workers are poorly paid.  However, we only have to glance at the translation forum to see that this is not always a nice mutual "transaction"!!!

 

If those women just wanted some fun, then fine. Unfortunately, many of the women are more vulnerable and they actually believe these men/boys love them and end up being conned out of money.

1626.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 08:08 pm

 

Quoting libralady

they would not find a 30 yr old in the UK who would be willing to sleep with a 67 yr old.

 

 Don´t be so sure about that! If there is loads of money involved then ´love´ suddenly gets blind....

1627.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 11:20 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I think we all understand the "whys" and we know that those workers are poorly paid.  However, we only have to glance at the translation forum to see that this is not always a nice mutual "transaction"!!!

 

If those women just wanted some fun, then fine. Unfortunately, many of the women are more vulnerable and they actually believe these men/boys love them and end up being conned out of money.

 

 But this is a programme about women going to the Domincan Republic not Turkey!!  These women knew exactly what they are getting themselves into.  They were not the least bit vulnerable, just desperate.......... sadly {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

1628.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 11:21 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 But this is a programme about women going to the Domincan Republic not Turkey!!  These women knew exactly what they are getting themselves into.  They were not the least bit vulnerable, just desperate.......... sadly {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Sounds pretty much the same to me (I also saw the same kind of thing in Kenya).  Its just the geography that is different

 

Admittedly, the Turks are the BEST at it and the most likely to pretend they are in love

1629.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Dec 2008 Wed 11:30 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Sounds pretty much the same to me (I also saw the same kind of thing in Kenya).  Its just the geography that is different

 

Admittedly, the Turks are the BEST at it and the most likely to pretend they are in love

 

 Oh yeh, I forgot, the translation forum tells all {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1630.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 05:44 pm

Practising Pandas

the news goes:

The gaint pandas Tuantuan and Yuanyuan that will be sent to Taiwan play in their house in Yaan. Low reproductive capacity being the main factor endangering the Giant pandas, Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.The two are 4-year old now, and in one or two years later, they can have reproductive plans

http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95639/95639129.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95639/95639130.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95639/95639132.jpg

 

But Orangutans for the time being:

Ornagutan Knocks up three

 

Male orangutan , Demo was doing his bit for his endangered species  after getting all three of his female zoo companions pregnant. Randy ten-year-old Demo will become a triple super-dad when the mothers all give birth over the next few months. The virile primate is also a jungle toyboy - after systematically working his way through the trio of older orangutans.

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000750.jpg <--dad

and mothers to be:

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000752.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000753.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/128/thumbs/97000/97000751.jpg

 

1631.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 05:54 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Practising Pandas

the news goes:

The gaint pandas Tuantuan and Yuanyuan that will be sent to Taiwan play in their house in Yaan. Low reproductive capacity being the main factor endangering the Giant pandas, Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.The two are 4-year old now, and in one or two years later, they can have reproductive plans

http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95639/95639129.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95639/95639130.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95639/95639132.jpg

 

 

 

TheH you are positively obsessed with Pandas!  There must be some deep psychological reason for this - now where is Avalon when you want her??  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1632.       lesluv
722 posts
 04 Dec 2008 Thu 05:54 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.

 

 

 

 now that sounds very sensible.....hmmm note to self ..need more pratice

1633.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 01:40 am

Not to offend any Cajin people here if by chance...I just had your food for the first time and it´s terrible...don´t know what this creole  looking things are but not very good.{#lang_emotions_puking}

1634.       doudi94
845 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 03:26 pm

Hossam habib´s latest video, again its in Turkey!

But this time its horrrrrrrible! I have no idea who the director is! I can make a better idea than that! I can shoot that with a home camera!!!I thibnk he also gained a little weight and he should really choose a lady thats in his league and heiht too! Hossam youre not good looking! stop acting l,ike it@! U have nice songs but....

here its is :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZfdRQYZ7EI

 

 

I personally like shoft b´enaya (also in turkey )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFoy18at0lY

omg this one has english subtitles but they translated literally which sounds sooooo stupid! They didnt pu the meaning! I can make a waaaay better translation!

 

 

and assebal la2 (also ij Turkey)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN8JwqTcILk

i really really like the direction of thos one and its ideas, notice the bride and groom dancing lol, and the bride has that red ribbon tied around her waist, tahst what thed on turkey right? lol

i loove this one, but his voice is horrible here and he looks horrible too, but the idea is really nice

 

 

1635.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:40 pm

One small step for bears, a giant leap for Cambridge outreach It´s not often that the UK can claim a win in the space race but on Monday two teddy bears drifted nearly 20 miles above Earth to become the first soft toys to take part in extra-vehicular activity at such an altitude. The cuddly toys MAT and KMS, named after the first initials of the pupils who helped make their space suits, were strapped to a beam attached to a foam-padded box containing instrumentation and cameras. After rising to an altitude of around 100,000ft, a webcam caught their ´space-walk´ for posterity before the helium balloon burst and they fell to Earth before a parachute opened automatically to provide a soft landing. During the 2 hour 9 minute flight the radio on board broadcast the location of the craft to a chase team on the ground. The team predicted the landing site using wind speed data and arrived in time to watch the teddy bears parachute safely back to Earth in a field four miles north east of Ipswich. They landed just 50 miles from their launch pad by Churchill College in Cambridge.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03723/03723313.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03723/03723314.jpg

1636.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:41 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

One small step for bears, a giant leap for Cambridge outreach It´s not often that the UK can claim a win in the space race but on Monday two teddy bears drifted nearly 20 miles above Earth to become the first soft toys to take part in extra-vehicular activity at such an altitude. The cuddly toys MAT and KMS, named after the first initials of the pupils who helped make their space suits, were strapped to a beam attached to a foam-padded box containing instrumentation and cameras. After rising to an altitude of around 100,000ft, a webcam caught their ´space-walk´ for posterity before the helium balloon burst and they fell to Earth before a parachute opened automatically to provide a soft landing. During the 2 hour 9 minute flight the radio on board broadcast the location of the craft to a chase team on the ground. The team predicted the landing site using wind speed data and arrived in time to watch the teddy bears parachute safely back to Earth in a field four miles north east of Ipswich. They landed just 50 miles from their launch pad by Churchill College in Cambridge.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03723/03723313.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03723/03723314.jpg

 

 Awwwwwwww I saw this on the news yesterday - so cuteeeeeeee   (I am glad they used parachutes for their soft landing )  It was part of a scheme where Cambridge are working with children to increase their interest in science.

1637.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 10:58 am

US ’Monster’ enters Turkey

ISTANBUL - Monster, the world’s largest online career firm operating in 52 countries with 5,000 employees, opened in Turkey.

The U.S.-based firm renewed its Turkey Web site, www.monster.com.tr, within the framework of its "Developing Markets Strategy."

"We are looking forward to developing the recruitment processes in Turkey as well as aiming a rapid growth in this market," John Hyland, managing director of Monster’s Developing Markets division, said in Istanbul.

"The significant increase in foreign investments in Turkey during the past years has created a wide range of career opportunities. This is one of the aspects that encouraged us to launch our Turkey operation," said Hyland, who is also vice president of Monster Worldwide.

"Turkey’s unique location that connects Europe and the Middle East, the increasing usage of the latest mobile and Internet technologies in the country and its growing economy have attracted us to enter the market," he added.

A new approach
"Parallel to rising computer usage and the rapid growth in the number of Internet subscribers in Turkey, career Web sites create various opportunities. But we aim to bring a new approach to this market," Güray Mert, regional director of Monster Europe Developing Markets, said during the meeting. "We believe that job seekers are more than a resume. We are looking into creating an efficient and quality labor market," he added.

"We are aware that ’human’ is the most valuable capital. We will assist companies in finding the quality talents," Mert told journalists.

While there are currently 250 companies in the portfolio of Monster Turkey, the firm targets to reach 1,000 companies by the end of this year.

"Our target for 2009 is to have at least one million job seekers joined in the Monster Turkey network," said Mert. Monster’s 2007 turnover stood at $1.3 billion.

 

Source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/finance/10518175.asp?scr=1

 

1638.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 02:26 pm

Inshallah surf boards.

it says ´All the surfboards face Mecca´ but how is it possible during surfing? you surf into one direction only? what about the wind?

{#lang_emotions_unsure}

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7769028.stm

1639.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 04:11 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Inshallah surf boards.

it says ´All the surfboards face Mecca´ but how is it possible during surfing? you surf into one direction only? what about the wind?

{#lang_emotions_unsure}

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7769028.stm

 

 Auzzies are weird   I also liked the comment at the bottom of the article

"A local designer has already brought out what she calls a burqini - a full-length swim suit to make Muslim women feel more comfortable at the beach"

1640.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 04:17 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Practising Pandas

the news goes:

The gaint pandas Tuantuan and Yuanyuan that will be sent to Taiwan play in their house in Yaan. Low reproductive capacity being the main factor endangering the Giant pandas, Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.The two are 4-year old now, and in one or two years later, they can have reproductive plans

 

 Awww I remember seeing these pictures in a newspaper a while ago....enchanting   They just don´t look REAL!

 

panda

 

panda

 

1641.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 05:29 pm

{#lang_emotions_unsure}{#lang_emotions_unsure} 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Awww I remember seeing these pictures in a newspaper a while ago....enchanting   They just don´t look REAL!

 

panda

 

panda

 

 Is the one up the tree playing hard to get?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1642.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 07 Dec 2008 Sun 05:30 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

{#lang_emotions_unsure}{#lang_emotions_unsure} 

 

 Is the one up the tree playing hard to get?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Awwwwwww but isn´t it beautiful?  Its so great to see them living in their natural habitat in China.  The paws on that one "sledging" in the snow look like a soft toy!

 

When you see them in the snow (and up the tree) you can see why they have that colouring - they are almost disguised

1643.       femmeous
2642 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 01:17 pm

lol lol

the judge must be bydands brother lol

 

 

A Scottish judge recently bent the law to benefit a polygamous household.

The case involved a Muslim male who drove 64 miles per hour in a 30 mph zone - usually grounds for an automatic loss of one´s driving license. The defendant´s lawyer explained his client´s need to speed: "He has one wife in Motherwell and another in Glasgow and sleeps with one one night and stays with the other the next on an alternate basis. Without his driving license he would be unable to do this on a regular basis." Sympathetic to the polygamist´s plight, the judge permitted him to retain his license.

1644.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 03:09 pm

Last night watching CNN...which I can´t stand... I heard one of the reporters say something that caught my attention.  They were referring to this woman as being "snarky".  Obviously, this word is used more often..thanks GG for expanding on our voc.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1645.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:32 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Last night watching CNN...which I can´t stand... I heard one of the reporters say something that caught my attention.  They were referring to this woman as being "snarky".  Obviously, this word is used more often..thanks GG for expanding on our voc.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} My pleasure.  It does seem to have become a quite popular word on TC!!!  Hmmm maybe this CNN reporter is a secret member.  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

1646.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:52 pm

New user "TheJannisary" {#lang_emotions_lol}

1647.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:53 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

New user "TheJannisary" {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 Brilliant

Welcome back TheJanissary!!!!!!! {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

1648.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Brilliant

Welcome back TheJanissary!!!!!!! {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

 

 I wonder if I need to leave and come back as "TheGirl" {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1649.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:57 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 I wonder if I need to leave and come back as "TheGirl" {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Yes! Your name is soooooooooo last year.  Maybe TheGG?

1650.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:57 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} My pleasure.  It does seem to have become a quite popular word on TC!!!  Hmmm maybe this CNN reporter is a secret member.  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

 

 Could be...{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1651.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 04:59 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Yes! Your name is soooooooooo last year.  Maybe TheGG?

 

 Offffffffff!  I will have to give it serious consideration.  {#lang_emotions_confused}

1652.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 05:00 pm

Translation Forum......I know we can´t communicate but I want to be with you forever....lets get married.  {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

1653.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 05:02 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Translation Forum......I know we can´t communicate but I want to be with you forever....lets get married.  {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

 Well it kind of cuts out all the nonsense - once they are married a few years they will stop communicating anyway

1654.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 05:05 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Translation Forum......I know we can´t communicate but I want to be with you forever....lets get married.  {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

 But my favorite part was another member trying to help and saying........"All i know on this is Seni çok seviyorum is I love you so much"  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1655.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 05:11 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Well it kind of cuts out all the nonsense - once they are married a few years they will stop communicating anyway

 

 Well, the man IS Turkish....he won´t be doing much communicating anyway!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1656.       lady in red
6947 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 10:32 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 But my favorite part was another member trying to help and saying........"All i know on this is Seni çok seviyorum is I love you so much"  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Haha!  Just reminded me of what caught my eye yesterday!  There´s a walkway along and around the edge of the harbour where people can fish from and its also where the Turkish teenagers tend to hang out in the evenings.  There is lots of graffitti on the wall (thankfully the only place you will find any in the town!) and the one that caught my eye was:

 

mehtap seni çok seviyorummiyorum - aww another doomed romance {#lang_emotions_cry}

1657.       doudi94
845 posts
 08 Dec 2008 Mon 11:59 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Haha!  Just reminded me of what caught my eye yesterday!  There´s a walkway along and around the edge of the harbour where people can fish from and its also where the Turkish teenagers tend to hang out in the evenings.  There is lots of graffitti on the wall (thankfully the only place you will find any in the town!) and the one that caught my eye was:

 

mehtap seni çok seviyorummiyorum - aww another doomed romance {#lang_emotions_cry}

 

Thats soo creative!

lool! here in Cairo we go"look! This wall doesnt have any grffitii on it!"

looooooooooooooool

just kidding, but i hate graffiti especially one sthat rea in pretty places!

 

One thougth going through my mind-..... "Mehtap! What did you do!"

1658.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:45 pm

Femmeous and thehandsom signing in together!  Oh no   {#lang_emotions_scared}-  and I was looking forward to a quiet afternoon!   I think I´ll just lock a few threads and leave! lol

1659.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:46 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Femmeous and thehandsom signing in together!  Oh no   {#lang_emotions_scared}-  and I was looking forward to a quiet afternoon!   I think I´ll just lock a few threads and leave! lol

 

 Ahahah great minds think alike

1660.       femmeous
2642 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:47 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Femmeous and thehandsom signing in together!  Oh no   {#lang_emotions_scared}-  and I was looking forward to a quiet afternoon!   I think I´ll just lock a few threads and leave! lol

 

 yes, we counted, one two three and jumped on here to scare you LIR lol

and aenigma sapik was a second later lol

1661.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:50 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 yes, we counted, one two three and jumped on here to scare you LIR lol

and aenigma sapik was a second later lol

 

 Aenigma - are you insulted by being called a sapýk?  Please pm me ýf you are

1662.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:50 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Aenigma - are you insulted by being called a sapýk?  Please pm me ýf you are

 

 Hmmm thank you LIR

I have given the matter some considerable thought, and decided that it is a compliment

1663.       femmeous
2642 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:54 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Aenigma - are you insulted by being called a sapýk?  Please pm me ýf you are

 

 does she too need a protection? i thought she was as tough as me the great FF. lol

gotta go, have fun

1664.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:55 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Hmmm thank you LIR

I have given the matter some considerable thought, and decided that it is a compliment

 

 Marvellous!  Thank you for your contribution to Peace on this Site  {#lang_emotions_flowers}

1665.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 02:56 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

gotta go, have fun

 

 Hmmm and theHandsom has gone too

Those two are becoming like Posh and Becks....soon they will bring out a perfume I guess

 

TheHandsFemme

1666.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 03:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Hmmm and theHandsom has gone too

Those two are becoming like Posh and Becks....soon they will bring out a perfume I guess

 

TheHandsFemme

 

 ...and bath products - you could sell them in the Spa  

1667.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 03:02 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 ...and bath products - you could sell them in the Spa  

 

 Ouh no...

I only want QUALITY products in the spa

1668.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 03:07 pm

New member ´sophiesmum´    Has sophie sent her along to check out if its worth her coming back again??

1669.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 03:08 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

New member ´sophiesmum´    Has sophie sent her along to check out if its worth her coming back again??

 

 Yes I wondered it too ..... better watch your comments in the Translation forum LIR

1670.       bod
5999 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 03:30 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

New member ´sophiesmum´    Has sophie sent her along to check out if its worth her coming back again??

 

 One can only speculate on what might get reported back to Sophie!!!

1671.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 05:05 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

TheHandsFemme

 

or TheFemmeson

 

now, does that mean I lost my most devoted stalker? {#lang_emotions_cry}

1672.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 05:51 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

now, does that mean I lost my most devoted stalker? {#lang_emotions_cry}

 

Never..lol

1673.       bod
5999 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:00 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Never..lol

 

 The devotion lives on lol

1674.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:27 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Never..lol

What a relief lol

 

1675.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:31 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

What a relief lol

 

I will assume this was the GREEN LIGHT I have been waiting for all those months!!

DD..I am on my way to Ireland right now..{#lang_emotions_angel}

1676.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I will assume this was the GREEN LIGHT I have been waiting for all those months!!

DD..I am on my way to Ireland right now..{#lang_emotions_angel}

 

I´d wait a bit, heard it´s dark on your island. you might get lost and end at Elisabeth´s doorsep instead (and that might mean returning all those laptops she´s been sending you) {#lang_emotions_ninja}

1677.       bod
5999 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I am on my way to Ireland right now..{#lang_emotions_angel}

 

 Do that - apparently it is still light there after it has gone dark here!!!

1678.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:39 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I will assume this was the GREEN LIGHT I have been waiting for all those months!!

DD..I am on my way to Ireland right now..{#lang_emotions_angel}

 

 Oh no....lis will be disappointed.  {#lang_emotions_razz}

1679.       bod
5999 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 06:56 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Oh no....lis will be disappointed.  {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 I didn´t realise you had friend in places quite as high as HRM Lis.........

1680.       Trudy
7887 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 08:09 pm

Phone-carrying pigeons discovered at prison

Two pigeons were found carrying a cell phone and a battery on their backs in a prison in the northwestern province of Bartýn on Saturday. Prison guards at Bartýn Prison discovered two pigeons in the prison courtyard with a cell phone and a battery taped to their backs. Prison officials said the pigeons were apparently too tired to fly any further with the items. The Bartýn Public Prosecutor´s Office has launched an investigation to find the would-be recipient of the cell phone. The pigeons are currently being kept at the prison.

 

Source: Zaman

1681.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 08:43 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Phone-carrying pigeons discovered at prison

Two pigeons were found carrying a cell phone and a battery on their backs in a prison in the northwestern province of Bartýn on Saturday. Prison guards at Bartýn Prison discovered two pigeons in the prison courtyard with a cell phone and a battery taped to their backs. Prison officials said the pigeons were apparently too tired to fly any further with the items. The Bartýn Public Prosecutor´s Office has launched an investigation to find the would-be recipient of the cell phone. The pigeons are currently being kept at the prison.

 

Source: Zaman

 

I warned Lis that this would be too risky to send cell phones to her dudus like this.  Apparently, she didn´t listen...{#lang_emotions_rant}She can be quite persistent...

 

1682.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 09:08 pm

 lines of Thomas More 

More: And when we stand before God, and you are sent to paradise for doing according to your conscience, and I am damned for not doing according to mine, will you come with me, for fellowship?

Cranmer: So those of us whose names are there are damned, Sir Thomas?

More: I don´t know, your grace.

 I HAVE NO WINDOW TO LOOK INTO ANOTHER MAN´S CONSCIENCE.

 I condemn no one.

Cranmer: Then the matter is capable of question?

More: Certainly.

Cranmer: But that you owe obedience to your king is not capable of question. So weigh a doubt against a certainty — and sign.

More: Some men think the earth is round, other think it flat; it is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the king´s command make it round? And if it is round, will the king´s command flatten it? No, I will not sign.

Where government is the big brother, privacy gives way to surveillance.

1683.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 10:07 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Phone-carrying pigeons discovered at prison

Two pigeons were found carrying a cell phone and a battery on their backs in a prison in the northwestern province of Bartýn on Saturday. Prison guards at Bartýn Prison discovered two pigeons in the prison courtyard with a cell phone and a battery taped to their backs. Prison officials said the pigeons were apparently too tired to fly any further with the items. The Bartýn Public Prosecutor´s Office has launched an investigation to find the would-be recipient of the cell phone. The pigeons are currently being kept at the prison.

 

Source: Zaman

 

 doing bird by stumayhew.         doing bird by stumayhew.

 

 

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1684.       doudi94
845 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:01 pm

What caught my eye today are the river sof blood in the streets!(Not to mention the smell!)

Today we did the whole sacrifice thingy, w were supposed to yesterday but we said wed do it with our grandma, and our grandma was sacrificing a cow,a nd she got the cow from this place in the country side (where the cows are supposedly healthier)

so teh cow came today, it was sos ad!

]I cried and my cousin laughed at me!

You have no idea what they do!

 

First the tie the cows´ feet, front first then back, then if it doesnt fall tot he florr , (wish it does by the wya) the push it, and the poor thing knows its fate and keeps like moving and stuff, then they slit its neck,a nd this fountain of blood spurts out! and teh thing is moving at tehs ame time! And the blood just keeps on gushing and gushing! and then they start the cutting up process, after that we killed the sheep.

 

My cousin i s afreshman in medical school this year, he keeps showing off too, oh this is the blah blah blah and this si the blah blah, how he got into medical school i dont know! He didnt even study! He was out playing ball in the street the whole time!

He actually took the lungs of the sheep and (while they were all bloody and stuff) blew in them, and they inflated and omg theyre HUGE!!! but ti was soooo sickening his whole face was blood!

 

But thats him, he has  a picture of himself witha  corpse on his mobile, he wwas in a morgue, and hes holding the poor guys hands and his guts are all out!

 

Anyway, while they wre killing the sheep 9i man after) The guy blows between its skin and its

meat, so the whole thing was liek a balloon! Then he keeps hitting it and it amkes this rubbery sound! then he take sthe skin off.

 

Anyway, when you kill a sheep (or cow or whatever) youre supposed to give 1/3 away, a 1/3 to family and relatives and a 1/3 to yourself, if you only saw the amount of poor people on the street, tehy sit on the side walks and everything,a nd while youre butchering they come an dkeep begging, and its soo annoying becasue its like cant us ee its still being killed?

Anyway, you know if you touch the emat after it was cut its rally hot! From the animals body heat

If im goign to talk about this topica nd what happened today then ill never stop so what iw rote is already waaaaaaaay too much!

1685.       femmeous
2642 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:04 pm

they dont look like pigeons at all, lir

1686.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:06 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

they dont look like pigeons at all, lir

 

 It´s the prison clothes they made them wear femme - hard to escape unseen when you are dressed in bright yellow.

1687.       lady in red
6947 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:09 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

 

Are you related to the Coen Brothers by any chance??? {#lang_emotions_scared}

1688.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:21 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

What caught my eye today are the river sof blood in the streets!(Not to mention the smell!).....

 

The subject was grusome (particularly as a vegetarian!), the grammar was appalling, the spelling terrible......but for some reason this post was sooooo entertaining!

 

Doudi it was a masterpiece!  You seem to manage to make me smile, even when you write about such a horrrible thing.  I adore the way you write in a conversational way as if you are gossiping to us! 

1689.       libralady
5152 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:31 pm

In the Radio Times, tonight, 10:00pm Ch4

 

Man hunters: Our Turkish Toy Boys

Both in their 40´s and separated from their husbands, Terry and Debbie are no longer looking for love in their home town.  With Terry´s 50th birthday imminent, the pair head off with their famlies to enjoy the delights of southern Turkey - primary among these being the young men they can meet in the region´s resorts.

 

Could be interesting viewing!!

1690.       lesluv
722 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:43 pm

 

Quoting libralady

In the Radio Times, tonight, 10:00pm Ch4

 

Man hunters: Our Turkish Toy Boys

Both in their 40´s and separated from their husbands, Terry and Debbie are no longer looking for love in their home town.  With Terry´s 50th birthday imminent, the pair head off with their famlies to enjoy the delights of southern Turkey - primary among these being the young men they can meet in the region´s resorts.

 

Could be interesting viewing!!

 

 oooohh very interesting {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} I think their story was in paper a while ago

1691.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 09 Dec 2008 Tue 11:50 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 oooohh very interesting {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} I think their story was in paper a while ago

 

 I didn´t know if I could bear to watch it ( {#lang_emotions_puking}  ) but it might make some interesting viewing - maybe we will see some TC dudus there

 

I have a feeling it will deserve a thread all of its own

1692.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 12:09 am

Turkish Toy Boy Update:  OMG the two women are a right couple of slappers!! lol

1693.       lesluv
722 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 12:11 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Turkish Toy Boy Update:  OMG the two women are a right couple of slappers!! lol

 

 I´m embarrassed for them....

1694.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 12:14 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 I´m embarrassed for them....

 

 It is very hard to watch.....I am hiding behind a cushion while watching!  OMG...

1695.       lesluv
722 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 12:15 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 It is very hard to watch.....I am hiding behind a cushion while watching!  OMG...

 

 what´s worse they are training their daughters to be the same

1696.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 12:15 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 what´s worse they are training their daughters to be the same

 

 The commentator is rather lacking in facts too.... "Turkey is a STRICTLY muslim country.....men are unable to have sex with Turkish women before marriage...." lol lol lol

 

What a crap documentary!

1697.       lesluv
722 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 12:18 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

  

What a crap documentary!

 

 yip......but can´t seem to tear myself away....oooh we are on dudu requests now

1698.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:02 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 what´s worse they are training their daughters to be the same

 

+1000

And the boy, the little boy. How horrible it must be to see his mother in that situation..

 

 

1699.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:03 am

Classic final line....

"SINCE THEY RETURNED DEBBIE HAS HEARD FROM ALI.  HE TEXTED HER AND ASKED HER FOR 1200 EUROS" 

 

lol lol lol lol

1700.       lesluv
722 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:04 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Classic final line....

"SINCE THEY RETURNED DEBBIE HAS HEARD FROM ALI.  HE TEXTED HER AND ASKED HER FOR 1200 EUROS" 

 

lol lol lol lol

 

 oh I missed that bit ha ha

1701.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:07 am

Summary of the programme:

Disgusting, hard nosed, ignorant women having sex with disgusting, hard nosed opportunist men

 

They both deserve eachother

1702.       lesluv
722 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:09 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Summary of the programme:

Disgusting, hard nosed, ignorant women having sex with disgusting, hard nosed opportunist men

 

They both deserve eachother

 

 yip that about does it

1703.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:16 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 yip that about does it

 

I think, instead of discussing about prescribing free drugs for drug addicts (to protect the public), they should think prescribing these women rabbits  so that, maybe , some of them wont behave like that and their childeren will be less neglected

1704.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:19 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think, instead of discussing about prescribing free drugs for drug addicts (to protect the public), they should think prescribing these women rabbits  so that, maybe , some of them wont behave like that and their childeren will be less neglected

 

 Hmmm its ok for us WOMEN to call them digusting mothers, but for some reason it bothers me when you do it..... I start to think, where are the fathers then?

1705.       lesluv
722 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:23 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think, instead of discussing about prescribing free drugs for drug addicts (to protect the public), they should think prescribing these women rabbits  so that, maybe , some of them wont behave like that and their childeren will be less neglected

 

 god this man has just saved the NHS millions......no need for the morning after.....hiv tests and treatments.......unwanted pregnancies

1706.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 01:27 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 god this man has just saved the NHS millions......no need for the morning after.....hiv tests and treatments.......unwanted pregnancies

 

well..Not only NHS..think about the enviromental effect of it..these women will be traveling less and there will be less polution and cheaper air flights..!!

1707.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 10:44 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

well..Not only NHS..think about the enviromental effect of it..these women will be traveling less and there will be less polution and cheaper air flights..!!

 

Ah - cheaper air flights........I can go with that........

We can do anything if we can justify it resulting in cheaper air flights

1708.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 10:58 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Summary of the programme:

Disgusting, hard nosed, ignorant women having sex with disgusting, hard nosed opportunist men

 

They both deserve eachother

 

 Well I have to agree with you on this one!  I was disgusted (and I am a liberal thinker!) that those women were openly having sex with their children´s full knowledge................ the 11 year old boy will certainly grow up with "issues". 

 

Dicussing having sex with her daughter (17), Debbie (47) did not seem to think that "catching" something might be a problem as her daughter gets herself "checked out" at college on a regular basis. I was horrified at this casual attitude.

1709.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 11:01 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Hmmm its ok for us WOMEN to call them digusting mothers, but for some reason it bothers me when you do it..... I start to think, where are the fathers then?

 

 Did you not catch the fact that both women were also married................. to Turkish Men (sorry............ boys!) one was 23, but both of them were separated, although Terry got back with hers.

 

These women are predators and their pray were the every willing Turkish boys.  No wonder they are all so skinny with nicely toned stomachs

1710.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 11:04 am

 

Quoting libralady

Dicussing having sex with her daughter (17), Debbie (47) did not seem to think that "catching" something might be a problem as her daughter gets herself "checked out" at college on a regular basis. I was horrified at this casual attitude.

 

I suspect that it is a bit of a generation thing.......a 47 year old would have grown up through the 1970´s and things were very different then - like sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous!   Perhaps Debbie just hasn´t changed her attitudes with the times.......

1711.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 02:38 pm

Moment of Death:

 

Motor neurone sufferer Craig Ewert, 59, from North Yorkshire, switches off his ventilator at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland. Craig is shown turning off his ventilator, drinking a sedative and passing away peacefully during his assisted suicide.

 

The retired university professor, of Harrogate, took the decision to end his life as his illness rapidly paralysed his body, rather than enduring an agonising, lengthy death and becoming a living tomb .

 

 

1712.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 02:45 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Moment of Death:

 

 

I heard something on the radio this morning on the way to work about there being a large amount of controversy about this being screened on UK television........I don´t quite understand why - people have the choice to watch it or otherwise.

1713.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 02:47 pm

 

Quoting bod

I heard something on the radio this morning on the way to work about there being a large amount of controversy about this being screened on UK television........I don´t quite understand why - people have the choice to watch it or otherwise.

 

 I think it must only affect deeply religious people, who believe that it is better to suffer in pain than commit the "sin" of ending it...

1714.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 02:50 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I think it must only affect deeply religious people, who believe that it is better to suffer in pain than commit the "sin" of ending it...

 

 Yes.......well.......these "deeply religious" people are a strange breed!

1715.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 02:59 pm

Some grey whale pictures during courtship ..

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/123/thumbs/61051/61051482.jpg    http://images3.image-data.com/images/123/thumbs/61051/61051478.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/123/thumbs/61051/61051522.jpg

1716.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:08 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Some grey whale pictures during courtship ..

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/123/thumbs/61051/61051482.jpg    http://images3.image-data.com/images/123/thumbs/61051/61051478.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/123/thumbs/61051/61051522.jpg

 

 oooooooo.........he´s got a big ´un lol

1717.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:14 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Moment of Death:

 

Motor neurone sufferer Craig Ewert, 59, from North Yorkshire, switches off his ventilator at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland. Craig is shown turning off his ventilator, drinking a sedative and passing away peacefully during his assisted suicide.

 

The retired university professor, of Harrogate, took the decision to end his life as his illness rapidly paralysed his body, rather than enduring an agonising, lengthy death and becoming a living tomb .

 

    

 

 

 Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary?  The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.

1718.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:18 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary?  The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.

 

 Absolutely I agreee with you. it made me feel sick too:S

1719.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:18 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary?  The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.

 

It was on the first page of theindependent today..

I can remove the pics if you want..

1720.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:19 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 Absolutely I agreee with you. it made me feel sick too:S

 

 The handsom likes us to be shocked

1721.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:22 pm

 

Quoting bod

 oooooooo.........he´s got a big ´un lol

 

Meaty? lol

1722.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:33 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary?  The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.

 

Images have been removed LL..

1723.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 03:44 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary?  The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.

 

I am failing to understand this........the pictures themselves were not particularly shocking - only a man with medical tubes around his face.    The shock factor is ´knowing´ that he is about to die and that has nothing directly to do with the pictures.

1724.       sonunda
5004 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 04:42 pm

Posts by Bod on every single thread in the latest discussions forum!!      {#lang_emotions_lol}

1725.       lady in red
6947 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 05:22 pm

 

Quoting bod

I suspect that it is a bit of a generation thing.......a 47 year old would have grown up through the 1970´s and things were very different then - like sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous!   Perhaps Debbie just hasn´t changed her attitudes with the times.......

 

 Hmm....Debbie, 1970s??  I seem to remember a well-known film from that era!  lol

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Does_Dallas

1726.       lady in red
6947 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 05:25 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

Posts by Bod on every single thread in the latest discussions forum!!      {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 Maybe he should change his name to BoREd!

1727.       sonunda
5004 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 05:56 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Maybe he should change his name to BoREd!

 

Good one!  {#lang_emotions_lol}

1728.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 05:57 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Maybe he should change his name to BoREd!

 

 How can I possibly keep up on the forum when bod is bouncing in here while I´m sleeping in his stripy-shirt, skinny jeans and studded belt trying to keep his numbers up!?!?!?!  {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

1729.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 06:20 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

Posts by Bod on every single thread in the latest discussions forum!!      {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

Nearly the last three pages of them actually (apart from the ´sticky´ ones at the top)

I´m catching up after a few months spent away - I´ve missed so many threads

1730.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 06:48 pm

 

Quoting bod

I am failing to understand this........the pictures themselves were not particularly shocking - only a man with medical tubes around his face.    The shock factor is ´knowing´ that he is about to die and that has nothing directly to do with the pictures.

 

 Yes, that is exactly that, the fact that he was about to die, the look on his face etc ...............

 

but thanks to theh for deleting them anyway

1731.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 06:51 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Yes, that is exactly that, the fact that he was about to die, the look on his face

 

Perhaps I didn´t look closely enough but I didn´t see any terror, pain or anguish on his face!   Discomfort yes - but only as much as anyone with all the tubes around and in their face.......

1732.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 06:57 pm

 

Quoting bod

I suspect that it is a bit of a generation thing.......a 47 year old would have grown up through the 1970´s and things were very different then - like sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous!   Perhaps Debbie just hasn´t changed her attitudes with the times.......

 

 Well I grew up in the 70´s too and I am pretty liberal, but I would draw the line at condoning a teenage daughter having unprotected sex with a man (boy!) she had only just met, knowing how many women they get through in a holiday season and think that being "screened at college" was enough ................ so in a few months time the daughter is tested positive for HIV then what?  All the other sexually transmitted diseases can be cured. 

 

Mind you the mother was probably worse, also having unprotected sex with several men over a period of 5 years and 20 visits to Turkey costing £30,000!!  I am clearly in the wrong job and should become a hotel cleaner

 

And yes, "Debbie" was certainly an appropriate name 

1733.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 07:03 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Well I grew up in the 70´s too and I am pretty liberal, but I would draw the line at condoning a teenage daughter having unprotected sex with a man (boy!) she had only just met.........

 

Yes but you have also continued to grow up since the 1970´s.

It seems to me that Debbie is still as immature and irresponsible as she was in the 1970´s.

1734.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 07:16 pm

Hundreds of listings for TV documentary "Turkish Toyboys" on the web today!  I particularly liked this extract :-

 

"Both women, as I mentioned earlier, had previously met and married Turkish men who were half their age and had taken them back to Lancashire with them. Debbie had earlier remarked that Turkish men see English women as being their “ticket to paradise”. How desperately disappointed those men must have been to arrive on the paradise shores of Lancashire permanently tethered to women I would call dogs were it not an insult to dogs.

Debbie’s husband – shock horror – cheated on her with another tourist and Terry’s husband, she said, was a “lying Kurdish git”. As opposed to a whoring English ti* I presume? Catchy rhyme though, I’m sure you’ll agree."  lol

 

http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/mrs-angry-on-man-hunters-our-turkish-toyboys/

1735.       lady in red
6947 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 08:07 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Hundreds of listings for TV documentary "Turkish Toyboys" on the web today!  I particularly liked this extract :-

 

"Both women, as I mentioned earlier, had previously met and married Turkish men who were half their age and had taken them back to Lancashire with them. Debbie had earlier remarked that Turkish men see English women as being their “ticket to paradise”. How desperately disappointed those men must have been to arrive on the paradise shores of Lancashire permanently tethered to women I would call dogs were it not an insult to dogs.

Debbie’s husband – shock horror – cheated on her with another tourist and Terry’s husband, she said, was a “lying Kurdish git”. As opposed to a whoring English ti* I presume? Catchy rhyme though, I’m sure you’ll agree."  lol

 

http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/mrs-angry-on-man-hunters-our-turkish-toyboys/

 

Thanks for that Ae - almost glad I couldn´t watch it now!  But I LOVE Mrs Angry lol - do you think we could get her to join TC??

1736.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 08:16 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Thanks for that Ae - almost glad I couldn´t watch it now!  But I LOVE Mrs Angry lol - do you think we could get her to join TC??

 

 I know!! Mrs Angry is wonderful and so eloquent!!!  Shall we send her an invite?

1737.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 09:58 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I know!! Mrs Angry is wonderful and so eloquent!!!  Shall we send her an invite?

 

 What an absolutely wonderful description of this programme. 

 

As for joining TC, I was wondering if the "wonderful" Debbie who was pining for Ali most of the holiday, wondering if he was:

1) with his wife,

2) with another holiday maker

3) just plain bored with her, (but claiming she did not fall for the men)

 

and the "beautifully" coiffured Terry (red out of a bottle ooooops!) were members here??  Or may be the daughter visiting the translation section {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

consquently Debbie had a miserable "f********" time and would never have f***** holiday like it a ******again , you got it?????  {#lang_emotions_rant}

1738.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 11:19 pm

Tuncay goes to Chelsea for £8 million??

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-109327.....-Boros-8m-Tuncay.html

 

 

1739.       bod
5999 posts
 10 Dec 2008 Wed 11:51 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Tuncay goes to Chelsea for £8 million??

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-109327.....-Boros-8m-Tuncay.html

 

Niçin futboldun hoþlanýyorsun?

Anlamadým......

1740.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 12:01 am

 

Quoting bod

Niçin futboldun hoþlanýyorsun?

Anlamadým......

 

haha..

I am not crazy about it..But i do like it..

 

I am still laughing at this :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A44677632

 

They are making up songs for him ..lol 

There was a boro player called tuncay
who chelsea wanted to buy-uy
he gave them the finger
and proceeded to linger
at the boro where they do good fry.....ups.

==

What can you do against Tuncay Sanli
What can you do against Tuncay Sanli
What can you do against Tuncay Sanli
Absolutely nothing

 

 

I dont know why but somehow, I am feeling a lil bit proud too

 

1741.       bod
5999 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 12:20 am

Quoting bod

Niçin futboldun hoþlanýyorsun?

Anlamadým......

 

Quoting thehandsom

haha..

I am not crazy about it..But i do like it..

 

 

Does that mean I got my Turkish correct???? 

 

1742.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:13 am

 

Quoting bod

Quoting bod

Niçin futboldun hoþlanýyorsun?

Anlamadým......

 

Quoting thehandsom

haha..

I am not crazy about it..But i do like it..

 

 

Does that mean I got my Turkish correct???? 

 

Not entirely but I understood what you mean..

You wanted to ask ´why I like football´ I assumed..

I would say ´Futboldan neden hoslandigini anlayamiyorum´ which means ´I can not understand why you like football´ 

1743.       bod
5999 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 10:41 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Not entirely but I understood what you mean..

You wanted to ask ´why I like football´ I assumed..

I would say ´Futboldan neden hoslandigini anlayamiyorum´ which means ´I can not understand why you like football´ 

 

saðol

but why neden and not niçin like I used?

1744.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 10:54 am

 

Quoting bod

saðol

but why neden and not niçin like I used?

 

You could use niçin as well..

They have the same meaning..(you should be proud of yourself that you made me go and check the word niçin in tdk and and also in nisanyan sozluk..-I was not sure if it was a made up word..

it is actually a derivative word from two words ´ ne icin´-

)

1745.       bod
5999 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 10:56 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

You could use niçin as well..

They have the same meaning..(you should be proud of yourself that you made me go and check the word niçin in tdk and and also in nisanyan sozluk..-I was not sure if it was a made up word..

it is actually a derivative word from two words ´ ne icin´-

)

 

 I´m always proud of myself lol

1746.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 04:26 pm

A Plastinate Reindeer

designed by Dr Gunther von Hagens is being exhibited at the O2 Centre on Finchley Road. It is the first time one of his works has been displayed outside of the exhibition.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89870/89870584.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89870/89870591.jpg

 

==================

George W. Bush meets with Darfur Human Rights Activist Dr. Halima Bashir in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10

He looks a bit scared

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973180.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973183.jpg

 

1747.       doudi94
845 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 06:11 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

A Plastinate Reindeer

designed by Dr Gunther von Hagens is being exhibited at the O2 Centre on Finchley Road. It is the first time one of his works has been displayed outside of the exhibition.

http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89870/89870584.jpg  http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89870/89870591.jpg

 

==================

George W. Bush meets with Darfur Human Rights Activist Dr. Halima Bashir in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10

He looks a bit scared

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973180.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973183.jpg

omg theres a lady under that thing!, whers hr ace? where´re her eyes??? Shes sitting in sucha  wierd pose, loooool, i bet she was wearing her finest sheets!

 

1748.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 06:17 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

omg theres a lady under that thing!, whers hr ace? where´re her eyes??? Shes sitting in sucha  wierd pose, loooool, i bet she was wearing her finest sheets!

 

 She was the victim of terrible violence in Darfur.   She is wearing this to protect herself, so no one will know what she looks like.   {#lang_emotions_sad}

1749.       doudi94
845 posts
 11 Dec 2008 Thu 06:28 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 She was the victim of terrible violence in Darfur.   She is wearing this to protect herself, so no one will know what she looks like.   {#lang_emotions_sad}

 

omg!!the guiltttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!

I had no idea!

I feel sorry for her!

1750.       doudi94
845 posts
 12 Dec 2008 Fri 12:16 am

The fastest growing language in the world is Nerdic, the language of technology and gadgets!!

1751.       bod
5999 posts
 12 Dec 2008 Fri 12:10 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

The fastest growing language in the world is Nerdic, the language of technology and gadgets!!

 

 It´s on Sky News - it must be true lol

1752.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 12:50 am

Woman dies drinking too much water on a "lighter life" diet.  She drank 4 litres in two hours..........................

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/12/12/water-diet-death-jacqueline-henson-s-sister-pauline-hits-out-at-lighterlife-115875-20963727/

1753.       lesluv
722 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 02:57 am

 

Quoting libralady

Woman dies drinking too much water on a "lighter life" diet.  She drank 4 litres in two hours..........................

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/12/12/water-diet-death-jacqueline-henson-s-sister-pauline-hits-out-at-lighterlife-115875-20963727/

 

 I am a sucess story of this kind of diet.....the diet never advocates this amount of water intake but it does recommend at least 2-3 litres A DAY. Like anything people will always go to extremes, the consequences are devastating..very sad 

1754.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:00 pm

my eye caught this

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qxkxPsNkJ_w&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

1755.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:18 pm

 

 

 OMG did you see the comments?!?!?!

It makes our forum here seem so tame! lol

1756.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:37 pm

{#lang_emotions_cool} 

Quoting TheAenigma

 OMG did you see the comments?!?!?!

It makes our forum here seem so tame! lol

 

 welkom to the reality.

1757.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:41 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 OMG did you see the comments?!?!?!

It makes our forum here seem so tame! lol

 

 give such movies to quiet bbrainless sheep and you have a control over them. create a great history for them, feed them with pride and you ll get a bunch zombies to do everything you want.

1758.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 04:48 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

{#lang_emotions_cool} 

 

 welkom to the reality.

 

 Oh thank you, my wise one! lol

You think I need YOU to show me reality? lol

1759.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Dec 2008 Sat 05:16 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Oh thank you, my wise one! lol

You think I need YOU to show me reality? lol

 

 of course, if not me who then? when you are busy hiding in your coffee laundry.

1760.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 11:20 am

Men, there is  way you can get your presents wrapped for your wife - you never have to do it again.  No................. not at Ann Summers, beautifully wrapped undies or expensive perfume from Debenhams.

 

There is a company in the UK who will "crap wrap" it for you.  It is authentically wrapped by hamfisted men (fork lift drivers and warehouse men) so you wife will never now the truth!!!!! 

 

 

 

firefox-crapwrap-thumb-395x293.jpg

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1094570/Shall-wrap-wifes-gift-badly-youd-sir.html

1761.       bydand
755 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 12:41 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Men, there is  way you can get your presents wrapped for your wife - you never have to do it again.  No................. not at Ann Summers, beautifully wrapped undies or expensive perfume from Debenhams.

 

There is a company in the UK who will "crap wrap" it for you.  It is authentically wrapped by hamfisted men (fork lift drivers and warehouse men) so you wife will never now the truth!!!!! 

 

 

 

firefox-crapwrap-thumb-395x293.jpg

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1094570/Shall-wrap-wifes-gift-badly-youd-sir.html

 

 I don´t need the services of this company LL....I can do crap wraping myself.{#lang_emotions_neutral} 

1762.       bod
5999 posts
 14 Dec 2008 Sun 03:14 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 I don´t need the services of this company LL....I can do crap wraping myself.{#lang_emotions_neutral} 

 

 And me.......but fortunately I can also do nice wrapping

1763.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:49 am

A beautiful story of love and dedication.....

 

Lynn & Jamie Parks give new meaning to the words "going the distance." This husband and wife running-team have competed in 170 races (including several marathons) and run more than 12,000 miles together. And for all of those miles, Jamie has pushed Lynn in a wheelchair.

 

You can read more here......

 

http://health.discovery.com/tv/marathon-love/home.html

1764.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 12:55 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

Lynn & Jamie Parks give new meaning to the words "going the distance." This husband and wife running-team have competed in 170 races (including several marathons) and run more than 12,000 miles together. And for all of those miles, Jamie has pushed Lynn in a wheelchair.

 

 It does show dedication, but it also begs the question........why???

1765.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 01:02 pm

 

Quoting bod

 It does show dedication, but it also begs the question........why???

 

 Yep!  I completely agree with you on this one!

1766.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 01:11 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Yep!  I completely agree with you on this one!

 

 OMG - let´s not make too much of a habit of this agreeing

1767.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 01:13 pm

 

Quoting bod

 OMG - let´s not make too much of a habit of this agreeing

 

 I disagree, I DONT!

1768.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 01:34 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I disagree, I DONT!

 

 I cannot agree to you disagreeing lol

1769.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:55 pm

what caught my eye today? or quite often lately?

 

bod:

bod:

bod:

bod:

bod:

 

till the bottom of the page  lol

1770.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:17 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

what caught my eye today? or quite often lately?

 

bod:

bod:

bod:

bod:

bod:

 

till the bottom of the page  lol

 

 And there was me thinking you were ignoring me fem lol

1771.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:28 pm

 

Quoting bod

 And there was me thinking you were ignoring me fem lol

 

 how can i ignore you when entering the forum almost every latest thread is commented by bod lol

you must be at work too in your normal mode lol

1772.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:31 pm

Quote:

how can i ignore you when entering the forum almost every latest thread is commented by bod lol

 

Good point, well made

 

Quoting femmeous

 you must be at work too in your normal mode lol

 

 I don´t really do normal

1773.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 04:27 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

==================

George W. Bush meets with Darfur Human Rights Activist Dr. Halima Bashir in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10

He looks a bit scared

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973180.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973183.jpg

 

 OMG

me too would get scared. {#lang_emotions_puking}

1774.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 04:57 pm

 

Quoting bod

 It does show dedication, but it also begs the question........why???

 

Because they used to run together before her accident.  After the accident he wanted to stop running because he did not want to be away from her.  She did not want him to stop so he started running with her and it gave her back a bit of normalcy.

1775.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 05:12 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

George W. Bush meets with a large blanket in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10.  Mr. Bush looks worried that he won´t get a pillow so he can take his nap!

 

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973180.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96973/96973183.jpg

 

 

1776.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 05:16 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

George W. Bush meets with a large blanket in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10.  Mr. Bush looks worried that he won´t get a pillow so he can take his nap!

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1777.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 05:45 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

What caught my eye today are the river sof blood in the streets!(Not to mention the smell!)

 

 

 

hmmmmm.......blood

1778.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 06:55 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 he soon will have his nap lol

1779.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 07:51 pm

Indian Railways has a total state monopoly on India´s rail transport. It is one of the largest and busiest rail networks in the world, transporting eighteen million passengers daily and more than two million tonnes of freight daily.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96974/96974559.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96974/96974560.jpg

1780.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:01 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Indian Railways has a total state monopoly on India´s rail transport. It is one of the largest and busiest rail networks in the world, transporting eighteen million passengers daily and more than two million tonnes of freight daily.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96974/96974559.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96974/96974560.jpg

 

 I take it India doesn´t have OSHA......{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1781.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:09 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 I take it India doesn´t have OSHA......{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

Actually, in Pakistan they use toyota pick ups alot  for transportation.

Once, I saw 43 people on a single toyota pick-up..

 

1782.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:14 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Actually, in Pakistan they use toyota pick ups alot  for transportation.

Once, I saw 43 people on a single toyota pick-up..

 

 OMG....that´s hilarious.  I take it they have no seat belt law there.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  People joke here about the Mexicans finding the most practical economical form of transportation.  You tend to see a honda civic packed full of people.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  Oh, and don´t forget the neon lights under the car...{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1783.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:15 pm

 and its the fault of british colonialism and imperialism, if not them built the railways, there would be no overcrowded trains.{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

Quoting thehandsom

Indian Railways has a total state monopoly on India´s rail transport. It is one of the largest and busiest rail networks in the world, transporting eighteen million passengers daily and more than two million tonnes of freight daily.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96974/96974559.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96974/96974560.jpg

 

 

1784.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:17 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 and its the fault of british colonialism and imperialism, if not them built the railways, there would be no overcrowded trains.{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 Those evil brits.....{#lang_emotions_get_you}

1785.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:17 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 OMG....that´s hilarious.  I take it they have no seat belt law there.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  People joke here about the Mexicans finding the most practical economical form of transportation.  You tend to see a honda civic packed full of people.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  Oh, and don´t forget the neon lights under the car...{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 dont be so hidious ... what for do you need a seat belt? you ll just softly bump into someones bum

 

and what about neon lights unders the car? i dont get it.

1786.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:20 pm

actually hairy, you could have started a new thread for the indian railways lol

1787.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:22 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 dont be so hidious ... what for do you need a seat belt? you ll just softly bump into someones bum

 

and what about neon lights unders the car? i dont get it.

 

 That´s a good way to get to know your neighbor better..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

Here is what you see.....they are actually lights with many colors.  Femme, are you wanting to put some on your´s?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  They have purple...

Blue Neon Light Underbody Under Car 4Pcs/ Kit with Transformer

1788.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:26 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 That´s a good way to get to know your neighbor better..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

Here is what you see.....they are actually lights with many colors.  Femme, are you wanting to put some on your´s?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  They have purple...

Blue Neon Light Underbody Under Car 4Pcs/ Kit with Transformer

 really? the lights uner the car? never heard of lol very interesting. didnt i tell, you can learn so many new things from evil amerikans?

what for do you need to light under the car? enlighten me, i possibly know nothing about it.

 

1789.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 09:18 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 really? the lights uner the car? never heard of lol very interesting. didnt i tell, you can learn so many new things from evil amerikans?

what for do you need to light under the car? enlighten me, i possibly know nothing about it.

Here is a better pic.  They are just lights  that go under your car.  Why do you need them?  To look cool I guess...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  Just not my taste..

 

 

Streetglow Multicolor LED Light Kit

 

1790.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 09:19 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Here is a better pic.  They are just lights  that go under your car.  Why do you need them?  To look cool I guess...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

 Cool?  Uhhummmmm maybe cool if you are a pimp or drug dealer! lol lol lol

1791.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:46 pm

Queent checking out the profile of SuiGeneris lol

1792.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:51 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Queent checking out the profile of SuiGeneris lol

 

 You are so bed! lol lol lol

(and still doing it....there must be more to his profile than we realised! lol )

1793.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:52 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Queent checking out the profile of SuiGeneris lol

 

 Femme checking what everyone else is doing!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1794.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:56 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Femme checking what everyone else is doing!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 no, just that our modest queent is showing an interest in young handsome turks lol

1795.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 no, just that our modest queent is showing an interest in young handsome turks lol

 

And you are like the neighborhood old woman, watching everyone´s comings and goings....you bed bed Borat!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  But now she is looking at SweetKisses...wonder what that is all about?

1796.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:59 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 You are so bed! lol lol lol

(and still doing it....there must be more to his profile than we realised! lol )

 

 you know they always appear to be one thing on the forum (esp. when teaching me on manners and culture) and another thing behind it lol

1797.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:00 am

now queent checking on sweetkisses

 

1798.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:01 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

And you are like the neighborhood old woman, watching everyone´s comings and goings....you bed bed Borat!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  But now she is looking at SweetKisses...wonder what that is all about?

 

 bed old amerikan, stop stalking good people lol

1799.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:03 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Cool?  Uhhummmmm maybe cool if you are a pimp or drug dealer! lol lol lol

 

 and people wonder why do i hate their mentality? lol

1800.       lesluv
722 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:08 am

http://creativity-online.com/work/view?seed=5e32d548

 

 

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}boys....take heed..... choose your gift well ha ha

1801.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:17 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Femme checking what everyone else is doing!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 offff {#lang_emotions_sad} i cant spy on catwoman {#lang_emotions_head_bang} shes unspyable

 

1802.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 11:34 am

 

Quoting lesluv

http://creativity-online.com/work/view?seed=5e32d548

 

 

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}boys....take heed..... choose your gift well ha ha

 

I think I´ll stick to chocolates - much safer !!!

1803.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:34 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

what caught my eye today? or quite often lately?

 

bod:

bod:

bod:

bod:

bod:

 

till the bottom of the page  lol

 

 And again today!!!! If you don´t want to chat with Bod, don´t come to Turkish Class! lol

1804.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:36 pm

Blind man´s guide dog barred from restaurant for offending Muslims

 

Alun Elder-Brown, a recruitment executive, said he was left feeling "like a piece of dirt" after being barred from bringing the animal into Kirthon Restaurant in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, on religious grounds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/3775993/Blind-mans-guide-dog-barred-from-restaurant-for-offending-Muslims.html

 

yeah, no comment.

1805.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:38 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 And again today!!!! If you don´t want to chat with Bod, don´t come to Turkish Class! lol

 

 i do want to chat with bod.

i want to chat with everybody, with tami, vineyards, canli etc etc.

1806.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:39 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i do want to chat with bod.

i want to chat with everybody, with tami, vineyards, canli etc etc.

 

 That is plain to see lol

1807.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:45 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 That is plain to see lol

 

 i know, they need time...

1808.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:46 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i do want to chat with bod.

 

 ooooooo - you have made my day Fem {#lang_emotions_flowers}

1809.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 12:47 pm

 

Quoting bod

 ooooooo - you have made my day Fem {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

 oh this made my day

1810.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:03 pm

Thousands of Muslims Attack Another Church in Egypt

Egypt -- Thousands of Muslims, who were angered by Copts celebrating mass in the Zagazig Diocese´s Hospitality Hall on 10th December, gathered in the village of Kafr Farag Guirgis, in an attempt to attack the building. The Muslim mob, which also included those from nearby villages, was armed with fire balls and gasoline bottles. The security forces had to intervene to contain the situation -- they closed the building and are still surrounding it.

The more than 1300 Copts living in the village and who make up for more than 50% of the total inhabitants have no church to pray in, while the Muslims have four mosques. For over 12 years the Copts were celebrating mass in a place of around 100 square meters with no water or amenities. As the roof of that place became unsafe, they went to celebrate mass in the hall of the nearby newly built building for social services and hospitality, belonging to the Diocese of Zagazig. This angered the Muslims.

A church deacon who was present during the incident told ´Coptic News´ that the people in the building did not want to leave the place and he added: "Our Coptic Church was built with the blood of martyrs, and we were ready to stay inside the building and be killed, however, we received orders from higher Church authorities to evacuate the place."

Coptic lawyer Ashraf Edward said that it is now imperative to pass the law for the ´Uniformity of the Construction of Places of Worship´ which has been pending for the last sixteen years. He said that a group of Coptic lawyers and himself are now looking into the matter of this pending law from a legal perspective, and that it is now time for action, and not for words.

It is worth noting that a similar incident happened on 23rd November when over 20,000 armed Muslims besieged 1000 Copts praying in the Church of the Virgin Mary in West Ain Shams, Cairo

1811.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:17 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

A church deacon who was present during the incident told ´Coptic News´ that the people in the building did not want to leave the place and he added: "Our Coptic Church was built with the blood of martyrs, and we were ready to stay inside the building and be killed,

 

Yet another example of the power that religion has to divide people........

1812.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:21 pm

 

Quoting bod

Yet another example of the power that religion has to divide people........

 

 Absolutely!  Religion is used to manipulate, enpower, divide, hate and kill.  And people wonder why I am not religious.... {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1813.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:23 pm

 

Quoting bod

Yet another example of the power that religion has to divide people........

 

 this is an orthodox church. copts have a tough life there. once they were the vast majority in egypt but peaceful muslims helped them to become even less than 10%. the same with turkey.

1814.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:29 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Absolutely!  Religion is used to manipulate, enpower, divide, hate and kill.

 

Tell me about it.........

I see it everyday as I work in a Church of England school but 92% of our pupils are Muslim!!!

1815.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:31 pm

Do we really have to talk about religion all the time?  How many more stories can you all dig up about evil muslims and evil christians?

 

I enjoy a discussion about it now and then, but does it have to dominate the forums?!?!

 

 

1816.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:33 pm

 

Quoting bod

I see it everyday as I work in a Church of England school but 92% of our pupils are Muslim!!!

 

 lol

that is your future and fate lol

1817.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:34 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Do we really have to talk about religion all the time?  How many more stories can you all dig up about evil muslims and evil christians?

 

I enjoy a discussion about it now and then, but does it have to dominate the forums?!?!

 

 what now, complaint queenT? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

shall i sing you carols or jingle bombs?

1818.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:38 pm

 weird...double post.

Deleted

1819.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:39 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 lol

that is your future and fate lol

 

What???

I´m going to become 92% Muslim

 

I am pretty confident that it is not going to happen........

1820.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:39 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 what now, complaint queenT? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

shall i sing you carols or jingle bombs?

 

Yes please

 

Religion plays no part in my life whatsoever, I just wondered why it always dominates discussions here.  You all believe YOU follow the right religions, but it seems they teach you nothing because all they do is cause war and hatred.  Some speak of it here, others hide it behind their politically correct comments. 

 

God/Allah must be so proud

Viva Pastafarianism! lol

1821.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:40 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Viva Pastafarianism! lol

 

 Amen - I´ll drink to that

1822.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:41 pm

 

Quoting bod

What???

I´m going to become 92% Muslim

 

I am pretty confident that it is not going to happen........

 

 not become, you are lol

your confidence has nothing to do with the reliaty lol

 

i can see the queen of england in burka lol

1823.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:43 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 weird...double post.

Deleted

 

 thats what i have noticed, and was going to comment on it, something about narcisism

1824.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:43 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 not become, you are lol

your confidence has nothing to do with the reliaty lol

 

i can see the queen of england in burka lol

 

 I think Femme must read the Daily Fascist Mail! lol

1825.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:45 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I think Femme must read the Daily Fascist Mail! lol

 

 fine by me, lol as long as it not Daily Nationalist Mail

1826.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:48 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 fine by me, lol as long as it not Daily Nationalist Mail

 

 I dont think a nationalist daily newspaper exists in the UK does it?  However, the Mail and the Express are really the best for scaremongering - you should work there as a writer Femme

1827.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 01:50 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

i can see the queen of england in burka lol

 

Yes - she has the figure for it lol

1828.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:13 pm

 

Quoting bod

Yes - she has the figure for it lol

 

 she will have to lol

whos taking over the kingdom after she dies? diane´s sons?

1829.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:16 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 I dont think a nationalist daily newspaper exists in the UK does it?  However, the Mail and the Express are really the best for scaremongering - you should work there as a writer Femme

 

 i think you over estimate my writing skills , darling. my english was repeatedly criticised by non-native speakers lol plus, i would have to learn to use better vocabulary (like vineyards).

 

ae, will you teach me english and how to write an article?

1830.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:18 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

my english was repeatedly criticised by non-native speakers lol

 

Don´t listen to them sweetie.......

1831.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:26 pm

 

Quoting bod

Don´t listen to them sweetie.......

 

 yes, you are right i ignore their nasty full of jealousy comments {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

1832.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:27 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i think you over estimate my writing skills , darling. my english was repeatedly criticised by non-native speakers lol plus, i would have to learn to use better vocabulary (like vineyards).

 

ae, will you teach me english and how to write an article?

 

 That is what spell check was invented for 

1833.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:30 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 That is what spell check was invented for 

 

But can you explain what grammar check was invented for

1834.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:31 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 That is what spell check was invented for 

 

 oh, i didnt know you use that invention lol

 

so, are you teaching me or not?

1835.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:35 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 oh, i didnt know you use that invention lol

 

so, are you teaching me or not?

 

 Yeah I would love to help!

You write your articles and then I will "edit" them before we send them

1836.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:43 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Yeah I would love to help!

You write your articles and then I will "edit" them before we send them

 i think i will ask bod lol

after your edition, my article would not be mine anymore but an essay on political correctness lol

 

1837.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:47 pm

Five sticks of explosive have been found and made safe in a top Paris department store, French police say.

The Printemps Haussmann store was evacuated and cordoned off, and police directed traffic away from the area.

 

AFP said it had received a written tip-off signed by a group calling itself the Afghan Revolutionary Front warning of "several bombs" placed in the store.

Officials said the explosives, planted in washrooms on the first and second floors, were not linked to detonators.

"Based on what we know, it was not a device that was set to explode. We are going to carry out an investigation to find the perpetrators," AFP quoted Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie as saying at the scene.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7785440.stm

1838.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:50 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i think i will ask bod lol

 

It´d give something to do on the rug inbetween rolling around and getting carpet burns

1839.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:53 pm

 me thinks you wrote this article to the daily truly BBQ, i dont understand it

Quoting TheAenigma

Five sticks of explosive have been found and made safe in a top Paris department store, French police say.

The Printemps Haussmann store was evacuated and cordoned off, and police directed traffic away from the area.

 

AFP said it had received a written tip-off signed by a group calling itself the Afghan Revolutionary Front warning of "several bombs" placed in the store.

Officials said the explosives, planted in washrooms on the first and second floors, were not linked to detonators.

"Based on what we know, it was not a device that was set to explode. We are going to carry out an investigation to find the perpetrators," AFP quoted Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie as saying at the scene.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7785440.stm

 

 

1840.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:54 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i think i will ask bod lol

after your edition, my article would not be mine anymore but an essay on political correctness lol

 

You make me REALLY angry when you say this.  You consider ANYONE who does not hate with a fanatical venom like you to be hiding behind political correctness!  You may find it hard to believe, but some people REALLY DONT feel the way you do about some topics!!!

 

You are Tam are more alike than you think! lol

1841.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:57 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

You make me REALLY angry when you say this.  You consider ANYONE who does not hate with a fanatical venom like you to be hiding behind political correctness!  You may find it hard to believe, but some people REALLY DONT feel the way you do about some topics!!!

 

You are Tam are more alike than you think! lol

 

 oh, thank you for this comment lol will be a nice addition to the lunch with bod on a rug lol

 

1842.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 02:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 oh, thank you for this comment lol will be a nice addition to the lunch with bod on a rug lol

 

 Yeah and THANK YOU for all yours!

I think you are better discussing your "launderamas" with the other housewives

1843.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 03:10 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 oh, thank you for this comment lol will be a nice addition to the lunch with bod on a rug lol

 

Lunch???

I am not sure we will have time for eating!!!

1844.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 03:10 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Yeah and THANK YOU for all yours!

I think you are better discussing your "launderamas" with the other housewives

 

 halo? you there? your private massage is no good. was empty.

you better spellcheck before posting, it was "laundramma".

 

 

1845.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 03:11 pm

 

Quoting bod

Lunch???

I am not sure we will have time for eating!!!

 

 no eating - no rolling! basta! hmm sorry pasta!

1846.       bod
5999 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 03:14 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 no eating - no rolling! basta! hmm sorry pasta!

 

You strike a mean deal Fem.......

But I´ll agree as we seem to have a common Italian lunch theme - I have pizza for lunch

1847.       teaschip
3870 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 08:13 pm

I think everyone had too much to drink in the Translation Lounge last night.  I can´t seem to find their lounge maybe. Or maybe the bartender made some bad Yiguns and everyone is sick.{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1848.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 09:31 pm

 

NOt only had it caught my eye, it arrested it for a longer while:

 

http://www.diziport.com/

 

It was fun to watch The Big Bang Theory season two with Turkish subtitles!

1849.       teaschip
3870 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 10:46 pm

 

This is awesome, it really works and makes sense too …..

                This Math Test

               Can Predict Your

               Role Model...

 

               Try it without looking

               at the Answer.!

 

  

               Pick your Favorite No. from 1-9.

               Then use that number and multiply by 3.

               Then Add 3 and multiply again by 3.

               You will get a 2 digit or a 3 digit number

               Add the digits.

 

 

              

 



               Now with that number.....

               See Who Your ROLE MODEL is

               from the List below :

 

 

 

 

               1.    Einstein

 

 

 

               2.    Nelson Mandela

 

 

 

               3.    George Washington

 

 

 

               4.    Tom Cruise

 

 

 

               5.    Bill Gates

 

 

 

               6.    Gandhi

 

 

 

               7.    Brad Pitt

 

 

 

               8.    Hitler

 

 

 

               9.   Teaschip

 

              

              10.  Barack Obama

 

1850.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 10:53 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

This is awesome, it really works and makes sense too …..

                This Math Test

               Can Predict Your

               Role Model...

 

               Try it without looking

               at the Answer.!

 

  

               Pick your Favorite No. from 1-9.

               Then use that number and multiply by 3.

               Then Add 3 and multiply again by 3.

               You will get a 2 digit or a 3 digit number

               Add the digits.

 

 

              

 



               Now with that number.....

               See Who Your ROLE MODEL is

               from the List below :

 

 

 

 

               1.    Einstein

 

 

 

               2.    Nelson Mandela

 

 

 

               3.    George Washington

 

 

 

               4.    Tom Cruise

 

 

 

               5.    Bill Gates

 

 

 

               6.    Gandhi

 

 

 

               7.    Brad Pitt

 

 

 

               8.    Hitler

 

 

 

               9.   Teaschip

 

              

              10.  Barack Obama

 

 

 hahaha....very funny!

1851.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 16 Dec 2008 Tue 10:58 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

This is awesome, it really works and makes sense too …..

                This Math Test

               Can Predict Your

               Role Model...

 

               Try it without looking

               at the Answer.!

 

  

               Pick your Favorite No. from 1-9.

               Then use that number and multiply by 3.

               Then Add 3 and multiply again by 3.

               You will get a 2 digit or a 3 digit number

               Add the digits.

 

 

              

 



               Now with that number.....

               See Who Your ROLE MODEL is

               from the List below :

 

 

 

 

               1.    Einstein

 

 

 

               2.    Nelson Mandela

 

 

 

               3.    George Washington

 

 

 

               4.    Tom Cruise

 

 

 

               5.    Bill Gates

 

 

 

               6.    Gandhi

 

 

 

               7.    Brad Pitt

 

 

 

               8.    Hitler

 

 

 

               9.   Teaschip

 

              

              10.  Barack Obama

 

 

 Oh dear god woman!!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1852.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 01:24 am

Do not go to Chessington Zoo during Cristmas..

One of the gorillas at Chessington Zoo enjoying some brussel sprouts. Zoo managers at Chessington Zoo have issued an apology to guests after the gorillas were fed a Christmas treat of brussel sprouts. The flatulence-inducing vegetable caused an unpleasant smell that emanated from their enclosure, and it seems it was more than many guests could stomach. 

 

1853.       bod
5999 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:42 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Do not go to Chessington Zoo during Cristmas..

One of the gorillas at Chessington Zoo enjoying some brussel sprouts. Zoo managers at Chessington Zoo have issued an apology to guests after the gorillas were fed a Christmas treat of brussel sprouts. The flatulence-inducing vegetable caused an unpleasant smell that emanated from their enclosure, and it seems it was more than many guests could stomach. 

 

 

 OMG - that has put me off my morning coffee and biscuits!!!

1854.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 02:33 pm

Lesluv has gone

1855.       bod
5999 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 02:40 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Lesluv has gone

 

 

Have you frightened her away m´dear ???

1856.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:17 pm

 

Quoting bod

Have you frightened her away m´dear ???

 

 Come back Lesluv

1857.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:19 pm

Awww I´ve just checked deleted users´ list. She´s really gone. Why? What have I missed? {#lang_emotions_unsure} Or does she want to come back as TheLesluv?

1858.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:28 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 Or does she want to come back as TheLesluv?

 

 Hehehe well it is the new trend

1859.       bod
5999 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:42 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Awww I´ve just checked deleted users´ list. She´s really gone. Why?

 

And without even saying farewell

1860.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:53 pm

 

Quoting bod

And without even saying farewell

 

Before leaving she did write something about making bad decisions...could it be quitting TC and getting a life acaba?

1861.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 04:56 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

...could it be quitting TC and getting a life acaba?

 

Is that possible?

Has anyone here ever tried it?  

1862.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 05:04 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Is that possible?

Has anyone here ever tried it?  

 

 I did once.....but it was sooooooo hard!  No dudu translations, no hostile fights, no fury boots or leg warmers, everyone was nice to me.....I couldn´t take it!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1863.       bod
5999 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 05:28 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Before leaving she did write something about making bad decisions

 

She did indeed.......

The last of those posts was to agree with AE that such decisions are often good but signed it with a sad face - seemed a little strange to me!

1864.       lady in red
6947 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 05:32 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Lesluv has gone

 

 I did try to persuade her not to go {#lang_emotions_sad}

1865.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:24 pm

Without any comment.....

 

http://www.global-o.org/

 

{#lang_emotions_shy}

 

1866.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:29 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Without any comment.....

 

http://www.global-o.org/

 

{#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 December 21st at 12.04?  Midday???

It is VERY inconvenient....offfffffffff ok ok I will see what I can do

 

Hey!  Maybe we should have a TC Orgasm Day lol........

1867.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:36 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 December 21st at 12.04?  Midday???

It is VERY inconvenient....offfffffffff ok ok I will see what I can do

 

Hey!  Maybe we should have a TC Orgasm Day lol........

 

 What´s wrong with midday? You make me curious..... lol

1868.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:38 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 What´s wrong with midday? You make me curious..... lol

 

 Only that I will be at work.....awwwwwwww what the hell!! lol

1869.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:43 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Without any comment.....

 

http://www.global-o.org/

 

{#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 It is VERY considerate of them to have a link so that we can all check the Global-O time locally! 

AND they have an online store with shirts and bumper stickers!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

1870.       CANLI
5084 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Come back Lesluv

 

+1

She will be missed

Now where will she go when she wants to escape works ?! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

1871.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 07:57 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

+1

She will be missed

Now where will she go when she wants to escape works ?! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

 Don´t worry - I have a feeling that Global and TC Orgasm Days will bring that sapik back

1872.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 08:27 pm

Gangs infiltrate Canada´s airports

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1216/p06s01-wogn.html

1873.       lady in red
6947 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 10:25 pm

Member ahmetemýn´s reason to use Turkish Class:

 

the%70 of the members of this site is female ... then i think i have to join this site

Have to admire his honesty!  lol  (now I´ll go and delete him..... mwahmwahmwahmwah!!!)

 

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 

 

1874.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 10:27 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Have to admire his honesty!  lol  (now I´ll go and delete him.....  

 

 

 

 ROFL!!!! lol  You are EVILLLLLL!

1875.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 17 Dec 2008 Wed 10:35 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Member ahmetemýn´s reason to use Turkish Class:

 

the%70 of the members of this site is female ... then i think i have to join this site

Have to admire his honesty!  lol  (now I´ll go and delete him..... mwahmwahmwahmwah!!!)

 

{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 

 

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1876.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 18 Dec 2008 Thu 12:20 am

Protest banners hung from Acropolis
About 12 youths on motorcycles set fire to a police bus in the centre of Athens [AFP]

Protesters have hung two giant banners on the Acropolis in Athens, with slogans calling for mass demonstrations across Europe, after days of violent protests sparked by the fatal police shooting of a teenager in the Greek capital.

About a dozen protesters held the pink banners over the walls of the ancient citadel, Greece´s most famous monument, with one bearing the word "resistance" written in large black letters in Greek, English, Spanish and German.

Evangelos Antonaros, a government spokesman, said: "There can be no justification for this action. This hurts the image of our country abroad ... it is unacceptable."

The banners were taken down after two hours.

Further student demonstrations are already planned on Thursday in Athens and Thessaloniki, Greece´s second largest city, to protest against the December 6 killing of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos.

The riots that followed the teenager´s death are the worst Greece has seen in decades, feeding off widespread dissatisfaction with the unpopular conservative government and anger over social inequality and economic hardship.

Hundreds of shops and banks have been smashed, torched or looted as groups of masked and hooded youths rampaged through cities for several nights.

More than 300 people have been detained or arrested during the violence.

Bus torched 

Although the rioting has abated, small-scale attacks continue.

About 12 youths on motorcycles set fire to a police bus in the centre of Athens on Wednesday. The driver managed to escape the fire and no one was hurt.

About 40 protesters also occupied the offices of the GSEE, Greece´s largest labour union.

Yiannis Panagopoulos, the GSEE leader, said: "I believe they have chosen the wrong target... The GSEE does not govern this country. So it´s wrong to undermine the labor unions."

In Thessaloniki, police said a bank and a local citizens´ advice office were firebombed before dawn on Wednesday in attacks that caused damage but no injuries.

Greece´s opposition socialists have accused the government of mishandling the crisis and worsening the effects of the global economic downturn.

The socialists are calling for of Costas Karamanlis, the prime minister, to resign and call new elections, a demand he has rejected.

Meanwhile, officials at Athens international airport said that all flights will be halted between 10:00 and 13:00 GMT on Thursday because of a strike by air traffic controllers.

Olympic Airlines, the state-run national carrier, said it would cancel 30 flights, mostly domestic, and reschedule another 14 services.

Air traffic controllers are joining protests by the GSEE, which is planning a rally in central Athens to demand pay raises and greater job protection.

1877.       bod
5999 posts
 18 Dec 2008 Thu 11:42 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I have a feeling that Global and TC Orgasm Days will bring that sapik back

 

 

lol  Time will tell us AEnigma

1878.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Dec 2008 Fri 06:25 pm

The chickens come home to roost

(guardian.co.uk) Do we imagine that anyone vaguely knowing these people would forgive their murderers?

"America´s chickens are coming home to roost! Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred and terrorism begets terrorism."

By Paul J. Balles

Thirty-nine women and children and eight teenagers at a wedding could hardly be mistaken for militants. Yet that´s what the U.S. military said about the 47 civilians murdered in an air strike in Afghanistan (BBC 11/07/08). Do we imagine, for a minute, that anyone vaguely knowing these people would forgive their tormentors and murderers?

When a superior officer ordered three of his U.S. marines not to take time to process the prisoners according to the rules, the threesome took turns blowing their prisoners’ brains out in Fallujah in 2004 (Los Angeles Times 11/07/08).

How many of us would seriously think that stories of these atrocious misdeeds weren’t broadcast by word of mouth through all of the Arab and Islamic worlds?

"We did a study on 3,000 children in Gaza," says, Dr Eyad al Saraj, a child psychologist. "45 per cent of them said the worst thing they have witnessed was the beating of their fathers by the Israeli soldiers. That was the symbol of security and power for them and it was shattered."

Is it any wonder that these children grow up finding new symbols of power in the model of the man with the Kalashnikov?

After the U.S. media reported Reverend Jeremiah Wright´s sermon as an example of a bad influence on Barack Obama, few people wanted to face the truth of what Wright said about the chickens coming home to roost:

We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to payback for the attack on our embassy. We killed hundreds of hard-working people; mothers and fathers who left home to go that day, not knowing that they would never get back home. We bombed Hiroshima! We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye!

Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children after school, civilians – not soldiers – people just trying to make it day by day. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant? Because the stuff we have done overseas has now been brought back into our own front yards! America´s chickens are coming home to roost! Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred and terrorism begets terrorism.

How many Americans are ready to admit that 9/11 was a crime of our own making?

Paul Craig Roberts, former U.S. underecretary of the Treasury says: "America’s brutal crimes against the Muslim world have invited every Muslim to become a law unto himself – a revolutionary. It is not terror that Washington confronts but revolution."

Here´s a “chickens come home to roost” theme in Roberts´ view after the carnage in Mumbai. Roberts describes the provocation to terror well, and his analysis bears repeating:

The attack on Mumbai required radical individuals. These people resulted from the U.S. overthrowing the elected government in Iran and imposing the Shah [the faux Shah Pahlavi]; from the U.S. stationing troops in Saudi Arabia; from the U.S. invading and attempting to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq, bombing weddings, funerals and children’s soccer games; from the U.S. violating international and U.S. law by torturing its Muslim victims; from the U.S. enlisting Pakistan in its war against the Taliban; from the U.S. violating Pakistan’s sovereignty by conducting military operations on Pakistani territory, killing Pakistani civilians; from the U.S. government supporting a half century of Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their lands, towns and villages; from the assault of American culture on Muslim values; from the U.S. purchasing the government of Egypt to act as its puppet; from U.S. arrogance that America is the supreme arbiter of morality.

Military interrogator Matthew Alexander´s reactions to abuses of prisoners are revealing of the policies and practices that lead to resistance. According to experts on terror, inhumane treatment produces nothing of any value; it leads only to hatred and a desire for revenge.

I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of human bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It´s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our programme of detainee abuse.

How do we expect the family, friends, relatives and members of the tribes of the victims of our policies and practices to react?

Call it what you will – chickens coming home to roost, revolution, resistance, victims – but don’t dismiss the arrogant immorality of brutalizing the world as someone else’s evil.

-- Paul J. Balles is a retired American university professor and freelance writer who has lived in the Middle East for many years. For more information, see pballes.com. This article appeared in Redress Information & Analysis.

 

Source: Middle East Online

1879.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 19 Dec 2008 Fri 09:09 pm

Uh-oh!!!  The angel of death has joined us!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

1880.       bod
5999 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 04:02 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Uh-oh!!!  The angel of death has joined us!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

THE angel of death ???

There have been plenty of prophets of doom around here for some time!!!

1881.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 04:44 am

 

Quoting bod

THE angel of death ???

There have been plenty of prophets of doom around here for some time!!!

 

 Yes!!!  THE angel of death!! 

Check out the newbies.......

{#lang_emotions_scared}

1882.       bod
5999 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 05:06 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Check out the newbies.......

 

Oh yes........

Good point - well made.......

1883.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 12:07 pm

EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION

CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".

1884.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 12:12 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".

 

 Even the lowest figure of 25% is horrible.

1885.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 12:30 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Even the lowest figure of 25% is horrible.

 

 and nobody can break the chain of horrible customs and traditions {#lang_emotions_puking}

1886.       lessluv
1052 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 05:27 pm

Quoting TheAenigma

 Come back Lesluv

 

+1

She will be missed

Now where will she go when she wants to escape works ?! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

{#lang_emotions_flowers}{#lang_emotions_flowers}.....I couldn´t do it {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

1887.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 05:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION

Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".

 

female genital mutilation supposedly did not originate as an islamic thing, but today mainly islamic countries still practice it. no doubt that strict religious lives keep people and countries backwards.

I am glad that there are people in Egypt who are finally trying to end this horrible practice.

1888.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:14 pm

 

 

 

Quoting catwoman

female genital mutilation supposedly did not originate as an islamic thing, but today mainly islamic countries still practice it. no doubt that strict religious lives keep people and countries backwards.

I am glad that there are people in Egypt who are finally trying to end this horrible practice.

 

Wrong. almost half of the countries in where female cirumsition is practiced have a christian majority.

 

"Genital mutilation is practiced in 25 countries in central Africa, ranging from Somalia in the east coast and stretching westward to Senegal on the Atlantic. The rite is believed to have originated more than two thousand years ago in Egypt or the Horn of Africa (what is now Eritrea, Djibouti, Ethiopia, and Somalia). The World Health Organization estimates that more than 130 million women have undergone the procedure. Although it is most often associated with Islam, it is also practiced by Christians, adherents to traditional African religions, and one Jewish sect."


http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001524.html

 

Countries Practicing Genital Mutilation

  • Benin
  • Burkina Faso
  • Cameroon
  • Central African Republic
  • Chad
  • Djibouti
  • Egypt
  • Ethiopia
  • Gambia
  • Guinea
  • Guinea-Bissau
  • Ghana
  • Ivory Coast
  • Kenya
  • Liberia
  • Mali
  • Mauritania
  • Niger
  • Nigeria
  • Senegal
  • Sierra Leone
  • Somalia
  • Sudan
  • Tanzania
  • Togo

1889.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:42 pm

Amnesty International estimates that over 130 million women worldwide have been affected by some form of FGM, with over 2 million procedures being performed every year. FGM is mainly practiced in African countries. It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Ethiopia on the East coast, as well as from Egypt in the north to Tanzania in the south; see Map. It is also practiced by some groups in the Arabian peninsula. The country where FGM is most prevalent is Egypt, followed by Sudan, Ethiopia, and Mali. Egypt recently passed a law banning FGM.[31]

Map: Estimated Prevalence of Female Genital Cutting (FGC) in Africa. Data based on uncertain estimates.

Whilst FGM is widely practiced out in the open by Africans of varied faiths, it is practiced in secrecy in some parts of the Middle East. In the Arabian peninsula, Types I and II FGM is usually performed, often referred to as Sunna circumcision especially among Afro-Arabs (ethnic groups of African descent are more likely to prefer infibulation). The practice occurs particularly in northern Saudi Arabia, southern Jordan, and northern Iraq[citation needed]. In the Iraqi village of Hasira, a recent study found that 60 percent of the women and girls reported having undergone FGM[citation needed]. Before the study, there had been no solid proof of the prevalence of the practice. There is also circumstantial evidence to suggest that FGM is practiced in Syria, western Iran, and southern Turkey.[32] In Oman, a few communities still practice FGM; however, experts believe that the number of such cases is small and declining annually. In the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, it is practiced mainly among foreign workers from East Africa and the Nile Valley.

The practice can also be found among a few ethnic groups in South America. In Indonesia, the practice is not uncommon among the country´s rural women; almost all are Type I or Type IV, the latter usually involving the pricking of blood release. Sometimes the procedures are merely symbolic, and no actual cutting is done.[33]

As a result of immigration, the practice has also spread to Europe, Australia and the United States. Some tradition-minded families have their daughters undergo FGM whilst on vacation in their home countries. As Western governments become more aware of FGM, legislation has come into effect in many countries to make the practice of FGM a criminal offense. In 2006, Khalid Adem became the first man in the United States to be prosecuted for mutilating his daughter.

 

(wikipedia)

1890.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:47 pm

The traditional cultural practice of FGC predates both Islam and Christianity. A Greek papyrus from 163 B.C. mentions girls in Egypt undergoing circumcision and it is widely accepted to have originated in Egypt and the Nile valley at the time of the Pharaohs. Evidence from mummies have shown both Type I and Type III FGC present.[34] While the spread of the practice of FGC is unknown, the procedure is now practiced among Muslims and Animists.

 

There are differences of opinion among Sunni scholars in regards to female genital cutting. These differences of opinion range from forbidden to obligatory.


FMC (female genital cutting/mutilation)

1891.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 07:51 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Wrong. almost half of the countries in where female cirumsition is practiced have a christian majority.

 

"Genital mutilation is practiced in 25 countries in central Africa, ranging from Somalia in the east coast and stretching westward to Senegal on the Atlantic. The rite is believed to have originated more than two thousand years ago in Egypt or the Horn of Africa (what is now Eritrea, Djibouti, Ethiopia, and Somalia). The World Health Organization estimates that more than 130 million women have undergone the procedure. Although it is most often associated with Islam, it is also practiced by Christians, adherents to traditional African religions, and one Jewish sect."


http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001524.html

 

Countries Practicing Genital Mutilation

  • Benin
  • Burkina Faso
  • Cameroon
  • Central African Republic
  • Chad
  • Djibouti
  • Egypt
  • Ethiopia
  • Gambia
  • Guinea
  • Guinea-Bissau
  • Ghana
  • Ivory Coast
  • Kenya
  • Liberia
  • Mali
  • Mauritania
  • Niger
  • Nigeria
  • Senegal
  • Sierra Leone
  • Somalia
  • Sudan
  • Tanzania
  • Togo

 

 

Hate to disappoint you dear, but only 7 of the 25 above listed countries are dominant Christian, 3 countries have an almost same percentage Christian / Islam but the other 15 are really Islamic countries. Not that it matters if the mutulation is done by Muslims or Christians, in my view they are all very, very wrong - and that´s an understatement.

1892.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:08 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Hate to disappoint you dear, but only 7 of the 25 above listed countries are dominant Christian,

That`s the reason why I said "almost half".{#lang_emotions_razz}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1893.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:21 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Quoting Trudy

Hate to disappoint you dear, but only 7 of the 25 above listed countries are dominant Christian,

That`s the reason why I said "almost half".{#lang_emotions_razz}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 so, ok, you lost it lol wow, and it makes you almost always not right.

1894.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:24 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

so, ok, you lost it lol wow, and it makes you almost always not right.

of course I`m always right. it`s just that my perception of "almost" is a little bit different.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

1895.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 08:29 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

of course I`m always right. it`s just that my perception of "almost" is a little bit different.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 i do agree with you here completly that this sounds not almost but very turkish. lol

1896.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 09:33 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Quoting Trudy

Hate to disappoint you dear, but only 7 of the 25 above listed countries are dominant Christian,

That`s the reason why I said "almost half".{#lang_emotions_razz}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

You were never good at math, were you? 7/25 = 28%, much less than even ´almost half´. I think your boss will be pleased at you when you accept 28 for almost half your salary.... lol

1897.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 09:54 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

You were never good at math, were you? 7/25 = 28%, much less than even ´almost half´. I think your boss will be pleased at you when you accept 28 for almost half your salary.... lol

"almost half" can even mean 1 out of 10, because there isn`t a quantitative description of "almost half", and you can`t prove it wrong. you`re not good at rhetoric, are you?{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

1898.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 09:56 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

"almost half" can even mean 1 out of 10, because there isn`t a quantitative description of "almost half". you`re not good at rhetoric, are you?{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

 Maybe not but I am better in admitting I don´t know things - your greatest talent is stubborness I think. {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

1899.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 11:09 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".

 

Quoting Trudy

 Even the lowest figure of 25% is horrible.

 

 + 100000 {#lang_emotions_sad}

1900.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 11:27 pm

Severed cable disrupts net access

Internet and phone communications between Europe, the Middle East, and Asia have been seriously disrupted after submarine cables were severed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7792688.stm

 

Happening twice in the year for same cables,and affecting almost same areas,i must agree its strange !

1901.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 12:36 am

 

Quoting femmeous

EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".

 

Ý doubt those figures.

The current generations in the Uni of women are almost the third generation where its almost the forth generation of male

The Cairo Uni is established in 1908

So i doubt that percentage between the educated women,and about other figures i dont know how did they get them

Personally no one has asked me about it,nor asked anyone that i know,and they wont dare to ask anyone in the country areas i believe.

 So how did they get their figures?!

 

Still,we sure have a problem about it,and it wont end till people themselves stop believing in it

Law not allowing it,ministry of health not allowing it,Doctors who would do it would face punishment ,but still people who determine on doing it to their daughters find away,and we dont know about it till a tradedy happened !

Ý believe education is the main solution here with the other tracks efforts.

Wish it ends someday soon.

 

Ps: Femmeous can you provide a link to that post?

 

1902.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 12:44 am

 

Quoting lessluv

Quoting TheAenigma

 Come back Lesluv

 

+1

She will be missed

Now where will she go when she wants to escape works ?! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

{#lang_emotions_flowers}{#lang_emotions_flowers}.....I couldn´t do it {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

Welcome Dear {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

Ehhhmmm,errrrrmm,mmmm btw,was EA right ?! {#lang_emotions_razz} lol

 

1903.       lessluv
1052 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 12:46 am

 

Quoting CANLI

Welcome Dear {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

Ehhhmmm,errrrrmm,mmmm btw,was EA right ?! {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 as always{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}.....but please don´t tell her {#lang_emotions_razz}.... she will start charging

1904.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 08:00 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".

 

Femme, according to our forum rules, you need to provide a link to the source from which you quote articles. Please do it in the future.

 

The link to this article is here:

1905.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 08:50 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Femme, according to our forum rules, you need to provide a link to the source from which you quote articles. Please do it in the future.

 

The link to this article is here:

 

Interesting....but I wonder about the acuracy of the statistics. It seems the problem is with uneducated, unskilled operation as to when it is called genital mutilation and when it´s called cosmetic surgery.

 

There seems to be a lot more genital modification in the "West" than many are aware of.


Plastic surgery below the belt

1906.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 09:06 pm

What do you think?


 


The Retail DNA test


 


"And yet while Wojcicki and Brin aren´t worried about genetic privacy, others are. In May, President George W. Bush signed a bill that makes it illegal for employers and insurers to discriminate on the basis of genetic information. California and New York tried to block the tests on the grounds that they were not properly licensed, but have so far been unsuccessful. Others worry about how sharing one´s genetic data might affect close relatives who would prefer not to let a family history of schizophrenia or Lou Gehrig´s disease become public. And what if a potential mate demands to see your genome before getting serious? Such hypotheticals are endless. And some researchers argue that the tests are flawed. "The uncertainty is too great," says Dr. Muin Khoury, director of the National Office of Public Health Genomics at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who argues that it is wrong to charge people for access to such preliminary and incomplete data. Many diseases stem from several different genes and are triggered by environmental factors. Since less than a tenth of our 20,000 genes have been correlated with any condition, it´s impossible to nail down exactly what component is genetic. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," says Dr. Alan Guttmacher of the National Institutes of Health."

1907.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 11:05 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Interesting....but I wonder about the acuracy of the statistics. It seems the problem is with uneducated, unskilled operation as to when it is called genital mutilation and when it´s called cosmetic surgery.

 

There seems to be a lot more genital modification in the "West" than many are aware of.


Plastic surgery below the belt

 

oh come on Alameda, how can you even compare these two...

1908.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 12:04 am

New member ´LeWax´!  lol ........run thehairy......run and hide!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

1909.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 12:06 am

 

Quoting lady in red

New member ´LeWax´!  lol ........run thehairy......run and hide!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

 Where is the head of the welcoming committee?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

1910.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 12:15 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 Where is the head of the welcoming committee?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 He´s a man....probably just started his Christmas shopping

1911.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 02:03 am

 

Quoting lady in red

 He´s a man....probably just started his Christmas shopping

 

Well..

That is not entirely true actually..

I started thinking about it yesterday, but I did do the shopping today 

1912.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 Dec 2008 Tue 11:37 am

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081223/tuk-creationism-should-be-taught-in-scho-dba1618.html

 

A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools. 

 

I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.

 

 How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists? 

1913.       lessluv
1052 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 07:32 am

There is life in the old boy.... {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 

Paul Weller

 

It is the kind of embrace reserved only for new love.

So Paul Weller´s passion for his 23-year-old backing singer must be particularly galling for his former lover Samantha Stock, whom he left just weeks ago.

The 50-year-old singer moved out of the £2million house in West London that he shared with Miss Stock, 38, after falling for Hannah Andrews, who sings on his latest solo album.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1101117/Paul-Wellers-pavement-passion-The-Jam-singer-finds-new-love--backing-vocalist.html

1914.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 02:09 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081223/tuk-creationism-should-be-taught-in-scho-dba1618.html

 

A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools. 

 

I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.

 

 How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists? 

 

Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.

 

Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this

 

1915.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 02:21 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.

 

Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this

 

We had a similar idea in Poland a few years ago when the Christian party was in power. Nothing like that happened fortunately as they had to call new elections in the middle of their cadency - their ratings were that low lol

1916.       Melek74
1506 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 03:51 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20081223/tuk-creationism-should-be-taught-in-scho-dba1618.html

 

A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools. 

 

I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.

 

 How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists? 

 

This is also a problem in the USA and there´s an ongoing debate about this. It is something that is incomprehensible to me. I love the argument of Christopher Hitchens (one of my favorite British imports )who said something to the effect that if they are going to teach creationism in publicly funded schools, then they also should teach evolution in the tax-exempt churches. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 http://www.slate.com/id/2124952/

 

There´s of course more to be said about this, but I´d find it difficult to express my opinion without being offensive to "believers".

1917.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Dec 2008 Wed 05:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.

 

Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this

 

 Hey don´t spoil it for all the kiddies...this tradition of lying to your kids have been going on for decades..{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}  Which reminds me years ago when I played fairy my son was getting something out of my cabinet and found some of his teeth. Yes, I saved them.  That was difficult to explain.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  Lie after lie.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1918.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2008 Thu 06:01 am

THE GLADIATORS


by Mauro Scarpati


 


The gladiator was a sort of specialized soldier: there were several categories, depending them on the different uniforms, weapons and skills, so every gladiator was easily recognizable by the public; at the origin of all the gladiators categoriesWe have two opposite kind of soldiers: the Tracian ( from the country in the north of the classic Greece), dressed with a light uniform to be faster than the enemy, skilled in agility and fighting techniques; and the Sannita ( from Sannio, a mountainuos country in the center of Italy ), an heavy uniform soldier, trained to fight defending himself, to receive lot of strokes, being ready to counter-attack with few deadly blows; these two classes were born both in the first century before Christ, when both Sannio and Tracia were roman provinces; and they gave origin to subsequent specializations, everyone with some peculiar features.
To complete the games there were all a series of others character, not only warriors but also…well, you’ll discover reading this article!
So, let’s go and see the most famous gladiator classes! 
  
LIGHT UNIFORM GLADIATORS



THRACIAN  


A large number of thracian gladiators arrived at Rome during the Silla dictatorhip, in the first years of the I century b.C.; these warriors, coming from the homonymous Greek region, had been enlisted as mercenaries in the armies of an african king, Mitridate; defeated by Silla, the imprisoned soldiers were sent in Capua, a little town close to Pompeii, where they were trained to fight in the amphitheaters. During the fights they dressed a light uniform, a little helmet, called machaira, light shoes and a little round shield; such a light uniform allowed them to run around the enemies, faster than them, exploiting at the most their weapon, the parna, a short dagger requiring an extreme ability and mobility to be used. 
In the arena the thracians fought amongst them, or against the Sanniti, soldiers with an heavier uniform, just to have two differents stiles fighting together.
  
REZIARIUS 


The reziarii got their name from the weapon they used: a long net to trap the opponents, klling then him with the fuscina, a trident, their offensive weapon; this technique requires a real ability, and every detail in the reziarius uniform is made to have the better functionality and nimbleness; they got not shield neither helmet and uniform to improve their unforeseeable speed in the fight. The only accessory they used, but for the net and the trident, was the sica, a dagger with which they gave the finishing stroke to their enemies, if the public showed the sadly famous thumbs down.For his highly spectacular fighting technique the reziarius was one of the most popular leading character into the gladiators games. 
  
DIMACHERI  


The two short swords, the machairai, these gladiators emploied gave them their name; in this class there’s no defense at all; without shield nor helmet, the only defensive uniform they had was a sort of leather muff on the forearms, to protect them from the strokes; speed was what they used to disorientate the enemies, making them more vulnerable at their swords.  



HEAVY UNIFORM GLADIATORS  



SANNITA  


The war againsts the Sanniti, in the III century b.C., is considered to be the beginning of the roman expansion in the center of Italy; the Sanniti soldiers became the first gladiators to fight in the roman arenas, and likely, according to some historians, the real origin of the games comes from that population (see in this issue: “Sangue e Arena: an Exibition into the Colosseum” ); unlike the Thracians, they got an heavy uniform, a metal plate to protect the chest, a strenghtened helmet with a grid to cover the eyes, a long shield; their weapons was the gladium, a long sword usefel both to defense and to attack; the Sanniti, as well as the Thracian, the two most popular gladiator classes, got their own supporters: the scrutarii, the Sanniti “hooligans”, and the parmularii, the Thracian’ one. And, as in the modern stadiums, it happened sometimes that the opposite supporters engaged a riot, even more cruel that the one in the arena…too bad, not that much in changed since then!  


MIRMILLIONI  


These gladiators came from the Gallia, the actual French; the name comes from their symbol, a fish ( mirmillio ) they got on the pectorale¸the metal plate they dresses on the chest; their uniform is similar to the Sanniti’s one, but with some differences; they had not the typical sannita griffon carved on the helmet, and the holes in the grids are set in a way that the deadly Reziarius trident tips could not enter; and the reziarius was the classic enemy of the mirmillione  


OPLOMACHOS  


Another classic enemy of the reziarius, the name oplomachos came from two greek words, oplon macvs, literally, “the heavy- uniform fighter”. The sword they used was longer that the Sannita’s one, with a carved hilt and flat, perfect to attack with cutting blows.  


GENERIC GLADIATORS 


The “generics” were the gladiators without a particular skill: they were used to fill up the spectacles, when these lasted for all a day, or even more; and of course, their hire was hardly a tenth of the more famous champions’ one!Anyway, some of the generic games were really popular: the Caesariani, for instance, the imperial family guards; or the Catervarii and Pegmarii fights, when a heap of slave soldiers fought in a sort of army; the amusement here was to see the huggest number of killings…   
 
PROVOCATORES  


The Provocatores ( “the provocatives” ) opened the duels, just provoking the gladiators to engage the fight; the latin word provocare was used, in militar slang, to indicate the light uniform soldiers, the velites, who opened the battles provoking the enemies with screams and insults.  


SESTERZIARII  
One sesterzio was the really cheap hire of this gladiator class; they were mostly veterans of the army, or even not that trained soldiers drove by the necessity in the arena, looking for a not so easy earnings!   


CAESARIANI, or ROSTULATICII 


Caesariani are the “heroes” of the arena: their ability and bravery promoted them as the body-guards of the imperial family; sometimes the crowd, seeing them close to the emperor, claim for them; so they have to come back in the stadium, satisfyng the public’s wishes.  


CATERVARII  


The Catervarii fought in two different groups, made by around 100 hundred soldiers; could you imagine the chaos? The idea was to have a real battle in the arena; so these soldiers, without any skill, fought only to kill the more enemies they could, in a war simulation the Roman enypied a lot! A curiosity: in the roman modern dialect we still use the same latin word, caterva, to say “a lot”!  


ESSEDARII  


The knights as well fought in the arena; the Essedarii drove an essedum, a Gallic war chariot drawn by two horses; after some skirmish, however, the gladiators finished the fight with an infighting with long swords.  


PEGMARII 


Sources don’t explain all about the Pegmarii’s fights; probably a tower was built in the middle of the arena ( the greek word for tower is pegma ); so the match was the simulation of a siege, with a group inside, the defensors, and the other outside, the attackers; so the match didn’t have an end since the death of aal the soldiers of a group; this game was really popualr because it could last for entire days – and you know, Romans loved to see a real war in theie stadium…
  


THE DECADENCE 


During the centuries the cast of the gladiator games knew a lot of other characters; their purpose was mainly to amuse the public, usually ridiculing the games themselves; it became famous the fight amongst dwarfs, or amongst rather old fighters; we can say that when the aristocratics, the women, even an Emperor as Commodo started to fight in the arena, the way of the decadence was opened to the originally ritual gladiator games meaning, a first step in the process leading at the death of the stadium itself.   


PAEGNARIA  


The fight amongst dwarfs were used to fill up the cast since the I century a.C.; they dressed too small uniforms with ridiculous short daggers, not to kill theirselves but just for the public’s amusement.  


NOBILES ( noblemen )  
And finally the noblemen as well wanted to fight in the arena to increase their prestige; in the traditional roman society the war against the enemies was the place to gain the glory, so the simulate aristocratic wars into the arena are another proof of the decadende in the last centuries of the Empire  


FOEMINAE ( women ) 


As for the noblemen, the presence of women in the arena points at the decadence of the roman society; these women fought against the men, winning sometimes; could you imagine 70.000 spectators busting out laughing all together? Well, that’s what the organizers wanted…  


ANDABATI 


The andabati knights fight was a caricature of a regular fight; dressing an helmet with no holes for eyes, they fought blindly, drove by the public’ screams and by the hoffs noise; of course – that’s what I suppose – the amusement was in driving the knights on the wrong way…  
 
We know there were lot of other gladiator classes, but the archaeological and literary sources don’t admit us to understand the differences amongst them; so, to know something more about the gladiators, you’d better wait the next archaeological discovery.



 


 


 http://www.nerone.cc/newslett/gladiato.htm


 


 


 

1919.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2008 Thu 04:34 pm

Icy blast wreaks travel chaos in US
About 500 travellers spent Tuesday night at Chicago´s O´Hare airport [Reuters]

Around 30 US road deaths have been blamed on snow and ice storms which have also left hundreds of travellers stranded at airports on Christmas eve.

On Wednesday, Chicago´s O´Hare International airport, the US´s second busiest terminal, was forced to cancel more than 500 flights after an American Airlines plane skidded off the runway.

No one was injured in the incident and all 54 passengers were put on other flights leaving the same evening.

Treacherous weather conditions grounded or delayed flights across the country, with other major airports in San Francisco, Dallas, Boston, New Jersey and New York all reporting serious delays.

In Seattle, Washington, 18 passengers and seven Alaska Airlines crew members received medical treatment after inhaling fumes that leaked into the cabin during de-icing.

Power cuts

Parts of the US also lost power supply in the storms and multiple car accidents were reported across the country - including a Wisconsin car crash that killed a woman and her seven-month-old child.

The US National Weather Service said the northwest of the country, which has already seen near-record levels of snowfall over the past week, was bracing itself for another storm expected to bring up to half a metre of snow.

Almost 64 million Americans are expected to travel over the holiday period, either by road, air or rail.

Meanwhile, in Canada, meteorologists are predicting the first coast-to-coast white Christmas since 1971.

Holiday travellers were also stranded in Vancouver on Wednesday as Air Canada was forced to cancel short and medium-distance flights out of the city because of snow storms.

Another 10 centimetres of snow fell in Vancouver on Wednesday, after the city had been blasted by snow storms two days earlier

1920.       lady in red
6947 posts
 27 Dec 2008 Sat 01:15 pm

TC chatroom is supporting Turkish characters!!  No idea how long this has been  for as today was the first time I have visited for ages!

1921.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Dec 2008 Sat 02:24 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

There is life in the old boy.... {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 

Paul Weller

 

It is the kind of embrace reserved only for new love.

So Paul Weller´s passion for his 23-year-old backing singer must be particularly galling for his former lover Samantha Stock, whom he left just weeks ago.

The 50-year-old singer moved out of the £2million house in West London that he shared with Miss Stock, 38, after falling for Hannah Andrews, who sings on his latest solo album.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1101117/Paul-Wellers-pavement-passion-The-Jam-singer-finds-new-love--backing-vocalist.html

 

 Hey, not so much of the old!!!!{#lang_emotions_unsure}

1922.       lessluv
1052 posts
 27 Dec 2008 Sat 10:42 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Hey, not so much of the old!!!!{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 hey... did I say it was a bad thing{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

It was more their embrace that caught my eye{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1923.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 28 Dec 2008 Sun 03:05 am

Porsche Panemera... wow!!! This car is my dream car now...

 

1924.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 07:57 pm

Istanbul according to uncyclopedia... lol

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Istanbul

 

1925.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:04 pm

Even better, the USA according to uncyclopedia!!! lol

 

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/USA

 

1926.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:14 pm

Last one I promise lol

England according to Uncylopedia.... lol lol lol

 

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/England

1927.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:19 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Istanbul according to uncyclopedia... lol

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Istanbul

 

PMSL lol I´ve read their entry about Poland and it seems the only good thing in our history is the following fact:

"Poland did, however, save Western Europe from the barbarity of the Ottoman Empire by massacring 300 000 turkish soldiers who were gypsying around the environs of Vienna, looking for work. So they can´t be all bad? Right?"

lol

1928.       lady in red
6947 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:20 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Istanbul according to uncyclopedia... lol

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Istanbul

 

 lol lol lol - not seen this before!

1929.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:21 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

PMSL lol I´ve read their entry about Poland and it seems the only good thing in our history is the following fact:

"Poland did, however, save Western Europe from the barbarity of the Ottoman Empire by massacring 300 000 turkish soldiers who were gypsying around the environs of Vienna, looking for work. So they can´t be all bad? Right?"

lol

 

lol

 I predict a sense of humour failure

1930.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:24 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

lol

 I predict a sense of humour failure

 

Oh well, it won´t be the first time, will it? lol

I checked and there´s no entry for Dudu. Shouldn´t we educate the world in that matter? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

1931.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:24 pm

I love the section Football in the Turkey listing:-

 

Turkey´s top soccer teams are Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray. However, it is known by the fans of Fenerbahçe that all Turks are born Fenerbahçe fans and die Fenerbahçe fans; it is sometimes due to mental problems that they suddenly start supporting one of the other teams. During the past few years, Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have alternated between the top two spots in the Turkish soccer league. However, there is a conspiracy that a third team, supported by male truck drivers with big-mustaches, exists as well. This team, known to these people as Beþiktaþ, has gotten lower and lower each year within the overall ranks of the Turkish soccer league. A common example of a Beþiktaþ player is Rüþtü, the man who proved himself incapable of saving goals and proved himself able to drag the Turkish national soccer team to defeat in Euro 2008. On the other hand, back when Rüþtü was part of Fenerbahçe in 2002, his mastery of saving goals made many consider him the main reason for the 3rd place Turkish victory.

1932.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:32 pm

WOW!  If you search the "Uncyclopedia" site for "Turkey" this appears at the top of the page:-

 

This article has been screened by Türkiye
Yeah, that´s right. We don´t like it anymore than you do. Well, actually they´re paying us $50,000 dollars a day to keep this article biased. So we can´t really complain. What? You think this site runs on magic? Hey...HEY! These are hard economic times we´re living in. Don´t give us that look. Be happy for us. We´re giving those punks at wikipedia a run for their money! Speaking of which, if you support Turkey for the European Union....thanks!

 

 

1933.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:33 pm

Trabzonspor??? The legend from black sea?

1934.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:35 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

Trabzonspor??? The legend from black sea?

 

 It is just a joke website Janissary.... however, the entry for Turkey has been "monitored" by Turkey, as you will see from my last post

1935.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:37 pm

there is only legend team in turkey, it s trabzonspor

1936.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:52 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

This article has been screened by Türkiye
Yeah, that´s right. We don´t like it anymore than you do. Well, actually they´re paying us $50,000 dollars a day to keep this article biased. So we can´t really complain. What? You think this site runs on magic? Hey...HEY! These are hard economic times we´re living in. Don´t give us that look. Be happy for us. We´re giving those punks at wikipedia a run for their money! Speaking of which, if you support Turkey for the European Union....thanks!

 

 

 Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?

1937.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:58 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?

 

 Hey, I will do it for $40,000 a day.............which makes me a much better bargain than AE!!  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

1938.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 08:59 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?

 

 Im sure u like turkey, if you were u wouldnt be here

1939.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:01 pm

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

Quoting TheAenigma

 Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?

 

that`s just a joke.{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

here are some other examples

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Rewrite

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Fairuse

 

 

1940.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:13 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

that`s just a joke.{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

here are some other examples

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Rewrite

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Fairuse

 

 The whole site is a joke silly (why do you think I posted the US and England parts JUST FOR YOU!!!).

 

However, the warning is not entirely a joke

1941.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:14 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 The whole site is a joke silly (why do you think I posted the US and England parts JUST FOR YOU!!!).

 

However, the warning is not entirely a joke

 

who are you tryong to fool? you thought the warning was true.{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

1942.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:17 pm

This is great

 

(Flag) (Coat of Arms)
Motto: "Dankeschön Sevgilim (Thanks for having sex with me my German girlfriend)"
Anthem: "Ýstiklal Marþý (We love you Ataturk!)"
Capital Ankara (Hey we´re a big city too! Have any of you even seen pictures of our new shopping centre?!)
Largest city Istanbul (OMG this place has more traffic than London!)
Official languages Turkish, Kurdish,English
Government Elected Dicatiorship, One Party Democracy, Secular State
 -Sultan Tayyip Erdoðan
 -President Ahmet Necdet Sezer
 -Prime Minister Deniz Baykal
National Hero(es) Tony Blair, Will Young, Peter Kay, Al Murray, Black Jesus
Declaration
of Formation
20th Century
Currency New Turkish Lira (BTW, this doesn´t look anything like the Euro)
Religion 30% Muslims, 65% Christians and 5% Jews
 Population Really crowded, that´s why Istanbul traffic moves only once every 10 years...
 Area 37cm
 Population density Istanbul mainly
 Internet TLD .TRuck
 Calling code +666

1943.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:36 pm

LIR is checking me out.  {#lang_emotions_scared}

1944.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:37 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

LIR is checking me out.  {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 Hahaha yeah I noticed it too

 

I am jealous

1945.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:38 pm

LIR is STILL checking you out

Prepare for deletion!!!!

1946.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:40 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Hahaha yeah I noticed it too

 

I am jealous

 

 I´m scared.  {#lang_emotions_cry}

She´s like the wizard behind the curtain....great and powerful.  Who knows what she will do to me!! 

1947.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 09:40 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

LIR is STILL checking you out

Prepare for deletion!!!!

 

 Then prepare for the return of GG!! 

1948.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 10:13 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

WOW!  If you search the "Uncyclopedia" site for "Turkey" this appears at the top of the page:-

 

 

 

Thank you for the link Aenigma. Turkish part (http://yansiklopedi.org/wiki/Türkiye) is funnier I must say:

 

2007 Nüfus Daðýlýmý
Türkler   %100 (Yeminlen)
Diðerleri  %0

 

Demography (2007)

100% turks (I swear)

0% Others

 

====

Kültür

Ülkenin %99´u çok kültürlü adamlar. Arada üç beþ terbiyesiz çýkýyor da onlar da Ermeni büyük ihtimal.

Culture

99% of the population is very cultured. Sometime you come across a few impolite people but they are possibly armenians anyway.

==================

 

Düþmanlar-enemies

Yunanlar - greeks. 
Ermeniler -armenians
Komunistler - comunists
Faþistler - fascists
Kürtler - Kurds
Fransýzlar - French
Amerikalýlar - Americans
Ruslar - Russians (men are enemy, not women). 
Ýtalyanlar - italians (cause of strong  defence in football)
Ýspanyollar - spanis( cause they are cowards as they are running aways from the bulls) 
Yahudiler - Jews 
Ýngilizler - brits (because of Leeds United). 
Araplar - Arabs (cause of  Lawrence ) 
Dominikler - Dominics  
Almanlar - Germans 
Çinliler - chineese 
Zenciler - blacks 
Homolar - gays 
Dünyanýn geri kalaný - rest of the world (because they are not Turks) 

Bir tek Türkler birbirini sever´-only turks love eachother

 

 

 

 

 

1949.       lessluv
1052 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 10:28 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

LIR is checking me out.  {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 she´s doing me too....only she DID delete me mwahahaa

1950.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 10:51 pm

PM from thehandsom:-

 


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thehandsom 29 Dec 2008 Mon 03:48 pm

Ok now we got rid of that Doudi brat, why not do the same to Girleegirl?  Would anyone miss her?  We could sell her to that circus gypsy and that way we get another 100 quid, PLUS her cut in the original scam?

 

1951.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 10:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

PM from thehandsom:-

 


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thehandsom 29 Dec 2008 Mon 03:48 pm

Ok now we got rid of that Doudi brat, why not do the same to Girleegirl?  Would anyone miss her?  We could sell her to that circus gypsy and that way we get another 100 quid, PLUS her cut in the original scam?

 

 

 Well that´s ok...no one takes him seriously anyway.

1952.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 10:59 pm


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girleegirl 29 Dec 2008 Mon 03:55 pm

Aenigma is this some kind of sick joke?  Thehandsom is MINE MINE MINE!  He is my sevgilim, my askim, my canim benim...... he would never say such a thing.

 

Leave him alone you evil Brit.

1953.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:03 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma


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girleegirl 29 Dec 2008 Mon 03:55 pm

Aenigma is this some kind of sick joke?  Thehandsom is MINE MINE MINE!  He is my sevgilim, my askim, my canim benim...... he would never say such a thing.

 

Leave him alone you evil Brit.

 

 Ohhh poor AE.  This fever has really gotten to you!!  Please rush off the the hospital immediately before the brain damage is permanent. {#lang_emotions_neutral}

1954.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:05 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Ohhh poor AE.  This fever has really gotten to you!!  Please rush off the the hospital immediately before the brain damage is permanent. {#lang_emotions_neutral}

 

 lol ok sorry to play such a sick joke lol

1955.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:12 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 lol ok sorry to play such a sick joke lol

 

 Well it was rather funny acutally {#lang_emotions_razz}

1956.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:15 pm

 

{#lang_emotions_lol}Quoting girleegirl

 Well it was rather funny acutally {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

GG

are you denying this then? 

 

girleegirl 29 Dec 2008 Mon 03:18 pm

Thehandsom, you are my canim, cicim..you are only MINE

eh? lol

1957.       lady in red
6947 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:22 pm

 

Quoting: girliegirl

LIR is checking me out.  {#lang_emotions_scared}

Quoting lessluv

 she´s doing me too....

 

So???  - you´d start complaining if you were ignored {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

(actually I was looking for something gg had posted earlier and I clicked on ll by accident that time!)

 

1958.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:26 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

So???  - you´d start complaining if you were ignored {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

(actually I was looking for something gg had posted earlier and I clicked on ll by accident that time!)

 

Of course I would complain if I was ignored....but now that you have mystical powers it is a bit terrifying to see you doing it!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1959.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 11:27 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

GG

are you denying this then? 

 

eh? lol

 

 In short.....YES!

1960.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 01:42 am

Briton fights claims of adultery

A British mother facing six months in jail in Dubai after being convicted of adultery insists she is innocent.

Marnie Pearce, 39, says she was framed by her ex-husband so he could gain custody of their children, Ziad, four, and Laith, seven. He denies the claim.

The teaching assistant has appealed against her conviction but fears she may never see her children again.

 

heres a source before LIR starts her persecution

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7803153.stm

1961.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 05:35 pm

PRO NAZI VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE
Hitler appears in a pro Nazi Youtube video. Internet site YouTube has been condemned for showing video clips glorifying murderous Nazi troops. The sickening scenes, accompanied by militaristic music, have drawn millions of hits from potential Nazi sympathisers and voyeurs. YouTube, which hosts film clips from the public, has 2,880 items on the Waffen SS, the most fanatical of Hitler´s soldiers who were indicted for war crimes throughout WW2. The videos, some from Nazi propaganda news reels, have sickened Jewish organisations who have called for YouTube to remove the ´hugely offensive´ postings, including one that features the headline ´Hitler Was Right´ directly below the YouTube logo.

  

 

 

 

1962.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 06:05 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

PRO NAZI VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE
Hitler appears in a pro Nazi Youtube video. Internet site YouTube has been condemned for showing video clips glorifying murderous Nazi troops. The sickening scenes, accompanied by militaristic music, have drawn millions of hits from potential Nazi sympathisers and voyeurs. YouTube, which hosts film clips from the public, has 2,880 items on the Waffen SS, the most fanatical of Hitler´s soldiers who were indicted for war crimes throughout WW2. The videos, some from Nazi propaganda news reels, have sickened Jewish organisations who have called for YouTube to remove the ´hugely offensive´ postings, including one that features the headline ´Hitler Was Right´ directly below the YouTube logo.

  

 

 Sick indeed....and scary.  The rise in neonazism in Germany is frightening...

1963.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 06:19 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Sick indeed....and scary.  The rise in neonazism in Germany is frightening...

 

 theres something wrong there with youtube. or theres something is wrong with people.

people rarely flag vids with violence and porn.

1964.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 06:55 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

PMSL lol I´ve read their entry about Poland and it seems the only good thing in our history is the following fact:

"Poland did, however, save Western Europe from the barbarity of the Ottoman Empire by massacring 300 000 turkish soldiers who were gypsying around the environs of Vienna, looking for work. So they can´t be all bad? Right?"

lol

 

 that wasnt very funny.

i liked the part where it says that poland is anti-indonesian. and theres a street named after obi wan kenobi. lol

1965.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 06:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Istanbul according to uncyclopedia... lol

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Istanbul

 

 love this site lol

i think you came up with this site a year or two ago?

1966.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 06:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 love this site lol

i think you came up with this site a year or two ago?

 

No I never saw it before until yesterday...but now am addicted to it! lol

1967.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 07:06 pm

Hehehe the best so far...Erdogan!!!

 

 http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdogan

 

Recep Tayyip pursued a rigid policy of siding whatever is popular at the time, including but not limited to:

1968.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 07:15 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

No I never saw it before until yesterday...but now am addicted to it! lol

 

 really? i was quite sure it was you who brought it up here two years ago

because i enjoyed it that time and forgot about the site.

i too enjoyed the info about glorious boratstan. lol

1969.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 07:18 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 really? i was quite sure it was you who brought it up here two years ago

because i enjoyed it that time and forgot about the site.

i too enjoyed the info about glorious boratstan. lol

 

Oh hell...if it was me then that is REALLy scary... I DO have Alzheimers

 

1970.       CANLI
5084 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 07:05 am

Gaza relief boat damaged in encounter with Israeli vessel

CNN correspondent Karl Penhaul was aboard the 60-foot pleasure boat Dignity when the contact occurred. When the boat later docked in the Lebanese port city of Tyre, severe damage was visible to the forward port side of the boat, and the front left window and part of the roof had collapsed. It was flying the flag of Gibraltar.

The Dignity was carrying crew and 16 passengers -- physicians from Britain, Germany and Cyprus and human rights activists from the Free Gaza Solidarity Movement -- who were trying to reach Gaza through an Israeli blockade of the territory.

Also on board was former U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney.

Penhaul said an Israeli patrol boat shined its spotlight on the Dignity, and then it and another patrol boat shadowed the Dignity for about a half hour before the collision.

CNN) -- An Israeli patrol boat struck a boat carrying medical volunteers and supplies to Gaza early Tuesday as it attempted to intercept the vessel in the Mediterranean Sea, witnesses and Israeli officials said

CNN correspondent Karl Penhaul was aboard the 60-foot pleasure boat Dignity when the contact occurred. When the boat later docked in the Lebanese port city of Tyre, severe damage was visible to the forward port side of the boat, and the front left window and part of the roof had collapsed. It was flying the flag of Gibraltar.

The Dignity was carrying crew and 16 passengers -- physicians from Britain, Germany and Cyprus and human rights activists from the Free Gaza Solidarity Movement -- who were trying to reach Gaza through an Israeli blockade of the territory.

Also on board was former U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney.

Penhaul said an Israeli patrol boat shined its spotlight on the Dignity, and then it and another patrol boat shadowed the Dignity for about a half hour before the collision.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/30/gaza.aid.boat/

 

Israeli vessel hits Gaza-bound boat

A small boat, damaged as it tried to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip, has arrived in the Lebanese port of Tyre.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/20081230121412669439.html

No Comment!

1971.       chiko
135 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 05:30 pm

this sad caricature 

 

http://www.worldbulletin.net/caricature.php?id=132

1972.       Melek74
1506 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 05:55 pm

Volunteer suicide bombers seek to attack Israel

 

TEHRAN, Iran – Hard-line Iranian student groups have asked the government to authorize volunteers to go carry out suicide bombings in Israel in response to the Israeli assault on the Gaza Strip.

The government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had not responded to the call by Wednesday. Five hard-line student groups and a conservative clerical group launched a registration drive on Monday, seeking volunteers to carry out suicide attacks against Israel.

In an open letter to Ahmadinjead, the students said "volunteer student suicide groups ... are determined to go to Gaza. You are expected to issue orders to the relevant authorities in order to pave the way for such action." A copy of the letter was made available to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Volunteer suicide groups have made similar requests in the past and the government never responded to their calls. Some hard-liners have claimed previously they succeeded in secretly sending bombers to Israel, but their claims have never been verified, and there has not been any sign of Iranians carrying out suicide attacks in Israel — raising the likelihood the groups´ activities are mainly for propaganda purposes.

The hard-liners started signing up volunteers after Iran´s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree Sunday saying anyone killed while defending Palestinians in Gaza against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.

The groups claim that more than than 10,000 people throughout Iran have registered as volunteer suicide bombers in the past three days. At a gathering Tuesday in Tehran, hard-liners were distributing registration forms to volunteers.

"How can I remain indifferent while defenseless Palestinians are being butchered," said one volunteer, Ali Reza Takrim Namini, as he filled out the registration form.

Another, Mostafa Babaei, vowed, "I´m willing to sacrifice my blood in support of Islam and in defense of Palestinian Muslims."

The volunteers wore white shrouds symbolizing their willingness to die and headbands with the slogan "Defenders of Gaza" and "Ready for Martyrdom." Most of those registering were members of the Basij militia, a hard-line paramilitary group that has tens of thousands of members and is often involved in drumming up popular fervor against Israel and the West.

Israel´s bombardment of Gaza, whick has killed hundreds of Palestinians, has sparked outrage in Iran and throughout the rest of the Muslim world. Israel says it launched its campaign in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns by Hamas. Iran is Hamas´ main backer, providing it considerable financial aid, though Tehran denies sending it weapons.

Protesters have held daily rallies outside the Egyptian interests section in Tehran, as well as the Jordanian and Saudi embassies, protesting what they call inaction by Arab nations. On Thursday, hard-line students threatened to storm the Egyptian mission unless Egypt open its Rafah border crossing with Gaza, a step Cairo has refused.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_israel_palestinians

 

We live in an absurd world. Here´s  another link, not for the faint of heart, for those who want to sympathize with the above:

http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=14+Afghan+children+killed+by+a+car+bomb&x=wrt&c=av

 

Isn´t it time to condemn all killings?

1973.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 06:31 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

 

Isn´t it time to condemn all killings?

 

 I think that´s what most here have been doing isn´t it? and the UN too. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=29436&Cr=Gaza&Cr1=

 

Did you sign the petition?  The link was posted on the locked thread by myself and also si. Here´s the link again:

 

http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_time_for_peace/?cl=161915027&v=2606

1974.       Melek74
1506 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 06:50 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 I think that´s what most here have been doing isn´t it? and the UN too. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=29436&Cr=Gaza&Cr1=

 

Did you sign the petition?  The link was posted on the locked thread by myself and also si. Here´s the link again:

 

http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_time_for_peace/?cl=161915027&v=2606

 

I did sign it, thanks for posting it again though.

 

Is there going to be a petition if Israelis are going to get killed too? That´s what I mean by condemning ALL killings, regardless of race, religion, nationality, and including self-destruction in order to kill. This has to stop or we will wipe ourselves from existance (the only spiecies to ever do so I would imagine).

1975.       Melek74
1506 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 06:51 pm

Here´s another thing that caught my eye. It really puts things in perspective, doesn´t it?

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/27/watch-if-an-asteroid-hit_n_153724.html

1976.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 07:11 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

I did sign it, thanks for posting it again though.

 

Is there going to be a petition if Israelis are going to get killed too? That´s what I mean by condemning ALL killings, regardless of race, religion, nationality, and including self-destruction in order to kill. This has to stop or we will wipe ourselves from existance (the only spiecies to ever do so I would imagine).

 

 I understood what you meant and my answer is still the same.  If you look at the Avaaz (http://www.avaaz.org/en/) site, you will see that it is not only concerned with the killing of Palestinians.  You are preaching to the converted.  They are concerned different conflicts around the world, not only Gaza. Now that you have signed the petion on that site they will send you news of other problems in the world. 

 

Organisations such as this have grown out of human feelings just like the ones you have voiced and they allow ordinary people like you and I to support their cause, whatever our background.  You can be sure that there are millions of people who think like you, whatever their race, religion, nationality.

 

People are expressing their sadness over the deaths in Gaza at the moment because it´s a tragedy.  That expression does not have to mean that they support any particular ´side´.  It is the way here, on this site, people express their sadness when a tragedy occurs.  It doesn´t have to have any other meaning other than the sadness and grief for the death of fellow human beings. 

 

There is always hope, for every bad thing that goes on in this world there is always a good and remarkable thing.  Seems you are condemning the human race.  Did you see Cybernetics´ post about hope? 

 

My only regret is that you didn´t say that in the first place i.e. condemn ALL killings around the world.  I fear your previous post might lead some here to think you are only concerned with "East/West"  (loose term ) issues and conflicts and that your final statement is an attempt to back pedal. 

 

 I´d rather the tragedy of death wasn´t used to start another  round of personal accusations/insults here as it doesn´t serve any purpose. 

  

 

 

 

1977.       Melek74
1506 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 07:26 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 I understood what you meant and my answer is still the same.  If you look at the Avaaz (http://www.avaaz.org/en/) site, you will see that it is not only concerned with the killing of Palestinians.  You are preaching to the converted.  They are concerned different conflicts around the world, not only Gaza. Now that you have signed the pettion on that site they will send you news of other problems in the world. 

 

Organisations such as this have grown out of human feelings just like the ones you have voiced and they allow ordinary people like you and I to support their cause, whatever our background.  You can be sure that there are millions of people who think like you, whatever their race, religion, nationality.

 

Point taken. It´s good to see there´re more like-minded people. Sometimes it´s easy to forget when all you see is fights and arguments. Thanks for reminding me of it {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

And just to add re the part you edited. You´re right, I should have been more specific, such comments can be easily misconstrued.

1978.       Melek74
1506 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 07:33 pm

Ok, I´m gonna post this link again, it sort of got lost between the above exchange.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/27/watch-if-an-asteroid-hit_n_153724.html

 

This is something everyone should see in my humble opinion. Very eye-opening at how vulnerable and lucky at the same time we have been so far (well, the dinosaurs, that´s another story (according to some theories of course) ).

1979.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 07:36 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

Ok, I´m gonna post this link again, it sort of got lost between the above exchange.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/27/watch-if-an-asteroid-hit_n_153724.html

 

This is something everyone should see in my humble opinion. Very eye-opening at how vulnerable and lucky at the same time we have been so far (well, the dinosaurs, that´s another story (according to some theories of course) ).

 

 Now you are reminding me of one of those people on the streets in London wearing a sandwich board with the message "The end is nigh!" 

 

 

 

 

1980.       Melek74
1506 posts
 31 Dec 2008 Wed 07:39 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 Now you are reminding me of one of those people on the streets in London wearing a sandwich board with the message "The end is nigh!" 

 

lol touche

 

Wouldn´t it be interesting though? The total destruction of life as we know it. Would life reappear? People? What would that be like to start anew without all that baggage we have? 

 

1981.       dreamsr4living
63 posts
 01 Jan 2009 Thu 02:42 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Briton fights claims of adultery

A British mother facing six months in jail in Dubai after being convicted of adultery insists she is innocent.

Marnie Pearce, 39, says she was framed by her ex-husband so he could gain custody of their children, Ziad, four, and Laith, seven. He denies the claim.

The teaching assistant has appealed against her conviction but fears she may never see her children again.

 

heres a source before LIR starts her persecution

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7803153.stm

 

Though we don´t know for 100% sure she had an affair, it´s probably unlikely. What gets up my nose is the fact she loves that country like her own, she bought her kids up within the cultural standards etc yet they seem to treat her like dirt without giving her a chance.

Countries criticize other countries whenever something bad is said about them, but it makes you feel like saying "and you still wonder why people judge others...".

 

After all, How often do you get people in the world that is so cultural?

1982.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Jan 2009 Thu 05:59 pm

dead SILENCE in TC when bed westerners are OFF celebrating

1983.       amicamia
24 posts
 01 Jan 2009 Thu 07:04 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

dead SILENCE in TC when bed westerners are OFF celebrating

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol}{#lang_emotions_flowers}  I agree

1984.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Jan 2009 Fri 02:41 pm

God..... how unlucky was this bloke!!

 

A New Delhi labourer survived getting hit by a bus, only to get hit and killed by a second bus 20 minutes later, police said.
Raj Kumar was on his way to work on Wednesday morning when a bus hit him from behind.
Police officials said local residents took the injured man to the hospital inside a three-wheeler taxi. Before they reached the hospital, however, Mr Kumar said he felt fine and jumped out of the vehicle to cross the road - when another bus hit him.

 

 

 

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=12386557&ocid=today

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1985.       Melek74
1506 posts
 02 Jan 2009 Fri 03:12 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

God..... how unlucky was this bloke!!

 

A New Delhi labourer survived getting hit by a bus, only to get hit and killed by a second bus 20 minutes later, police said.
Raj Kumar was on his way to work on Wednesday morning when a bus hit him from behind.
Police officials said local residents took the injured man to the hospital inside a three-wheeler taxi. Before they reached the hospital, however, Mr Kumar said he felt fine and jumped out of the vehicle to cross the road - when another bus hit him.

 

 

 

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=12386557&ocid=today

 

Unlucky or reckless? 

1986.       Melek74
1506 posts
 02 Jan 2009 Fri 03:45 pm

Watch a year go by (in 40 seconds)

http://eirikso.com/2008/12/27/one-year-worth-of-images-give-some-amazing-videos/

1987.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 03 Jan 2009 Sat 12:38 am

  • LIR checking out thehandsom
  • Gokhan1 checking out Melek74
  • Lilian checking out Roswitha

and.....

thehandsom checking out himself! lol lol lol

1988.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 03 Jan 2009 Sat 01:13 am

The Janissary checking out my posts! Awww canim lol

1989.       dreamsr4living
63 posts
 03 Jan 2009 Sat 11:44 pm

Well it wasn´t today but it still bugs me in a sense...

 

I was on the fast train to London which only stops at 2 stops so therefore they have a refreshment trolley on the train. According to one of the many new laws, it states that you are no longer allowed to drink on public transport. But on the refreshment trolley they were serving beers {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

The law likes to bend the rules to it´s own liking as it seems, or another way of putting it "do as I say and not as I do".

1990.       femmeous
2642 posts
 03 Jan 2009 Sat 11:57 pm

an article for libra

UK Muslims fighting in Afghanistan Against British Military

Someone needs to tell the multiculties, Gordon Brown & his NuLabourites along with the rest of the dhimmis that all the freebies and benefits of the UK have not transformed muslims into "British".  This shouldn´t be a surprise as back in 2006 a survey of muslims living in Britain found:

"When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."

Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year´s Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it." 

a source here for LIR who has to persecute me according to TC rules:

http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/01/uk-muslims-fighting-in-afghanistan-against-british-military.html

 

then what are they doing in the UK? they indeed should move out to those countries.

1991.       lady in red
6947 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 12:05 am

 

Quoting femmeous

a source here for LIR:

 

{#lang_emotions_flowers} 

- you will soon have earnt enough Brownie points for a weekend break to the Isle of AE

1992.       dreamsr4living
63 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 12:14 am

 

Quoting lady in red

Quoting femmeous

a source here for LIR:

 

{#lang_emotions_flowers}

- you will soon have earnt enough Brownie points for a weekend break to the Isle of AE

 

In which there is no escape {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1993.       femmeous
2642 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 12:18 am

 

Quoting lady in red

Quoting femmeous

a source here for LIR:

 

{#lang_emotions_flowers} 

- you will soon have earnt enough Brownie points for a weekend break to the Isle of AE

 and i was not aware of the award punishment .

 

1994.       femmeous
2642 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 12:20 am

 

Quoting dreamsr4living

In which there is no escape {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 i think IOWans now should seek to escape since im coming there. lol

1995.       dreamsr4living
63 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 12:23 am

 

Quoting femmeous

i think IOWans now should seek to escape since im coming there. lol

 

Maybe you alone but with AE too, I sure wouldn´t go back to living there {#lang_emotions_razz} {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

1996.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 10:00 pm

Travolta and his son..

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/.....-to-bring-son-back-to-life.html

1997.       lessluv
1052 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 10:15 pm

 

 

 god, how awful {#lang_emotions_sad}

1998.       femmeous
2642 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 10:26 pm

 

 

 

A postmortem will be held in the Bahamas on Monday amid US media reports that Jett, who was accompanied on the trip by two nannies, may have suffered from autism. The condition is not recognised by the Scientology belief system pursued by Travolta and his actress wife Kelly Preston and the couple has denied through their lawyer that their son was autistic.

Jett had a history of seizures and other medical problems, including complications resulting from Kawasaki disease, a rare lymph-node disorder that he suffered as a young child, Travolta has told investigators on the island

 

Travolta and Preston said that their son, who sometimes appeared confused or unsure of his surroundings in public, had suffered as a young child from Kawasaki disease, brought on by chemicals used to clean their carpets.

They also said that he had a history of seizures which some doctors said could have been the product of brain damage as a result of Kawasaki, a treatable disease characterised by high fever, skin rash and swelling of the lymph nodes that usually affects children under five.

Based on precepts laid down by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard and whose Hollywood adherents also includes Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, Scientology views mental illness as psychosomatic and says it should be treated through spiritual healing. {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

1999.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 11:36 pm

Matt Smith has been named as the actor who will take over from David Tennant in Doctor Who

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7808697.stm

 

damn.. not me again..

2000.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 11:39 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

damn.. not me again..

 

 They wanted someone young and cool with charisma

2001.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 11:48 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 They wanted someone young and cool with charisma

 

well..

Since I posses all those qualities, I can  clearly say that ´there is racism in bbc´..

2002.       lessluv
1052 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 11:49 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

well..

Since I posses all those qualities,

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2003.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 04 Jan 2009 Sun 11:51 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Are you trying to say something? eh?

2004.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 12:00 am

 

Quoting femmeous

an article for libra

UK Muslims fighting in Afghanistan Against British Military

Someone needs to tell the multiculties, Gordon Brown & his NuLabourites along with the rest of the dhimmis that all the freebies and benefits of the UK have not transformed muslims into "British".  This shouldn´t be a surprise as back in 2006 a survey of muslims living in Britain found:

"When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."

Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year´s Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it." 

a source here for LIR who has to persecute me according to TC rules:

http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/01/uk-muslims-fighting-in-afghanistan-against-british-military.html

 

then what are they doing in the UK? they indeed should move out to those countries.

 

 Thank you but why is it for me?  Have I ever given you the impression I support this?  I don´t think so.  As far as I am concerned anyone who does not want to live under our laws should return to their own country.

2005.       geniuda
1070 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 12:04 am

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

Quoting thehandsom

well..

Since I posses all those qualities, I can  clearly say that ´there is racism in bbc´..

 

 It must have been your mother the one who told you possess all those qualities {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2006.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 12:06 am

 

Quoting geniuda

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 It must have been your mother the one who told you possess all those qualities {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Oi oi..

Not only my mother..OK?

My aunts, my sister and some of my cousins too..OK? lol

2007.       geniuda
1070 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 12:20 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Oi oi..

Not only my mother..OK?

My aunts, my sister and some of my cousins too..OK? lol

 

ohhh yeah when it comes from family, it must be true{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} ...see? my son keeps telling me I am the most beautiful, prettiest woman in the whole world..then I should be named "Miss Universe" {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2008.       lessluv
1052 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:29 am

 

Quoting geniuda

ohhh yeah when it comes from family, it must be true{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} ...see? my son keeps telling me I am the most beautiful, prettiest woman in the whole world..then I should be named "Miss Universe" {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

mine are also  well trained in this department....they sing in the style of the Pussy Cat Dolls  "don´t you wish your mamma was hot like mine" heh heh{#lang_emotions_lol} not so cool in the middle of Waitrose ha ha

2009.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 07:41 am

Vineyards gone? Why? Can´t read all that you´ve posted in two weeks so can anyone enlighten me?

2010.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 08:12 am

 

Quoting Trudy

Vineyards gone? Why? Can´t read all that you´ve posted in two weeks so can anyone enlighten me?

 

Oh you know…same old thing…..he got pissed off at someone, can’t recall now who exactly it was (just insert one of the usual suspects here).

They traded insults and he rambled on for a bit about the injustice of the mods and why they would not delete the insults against him (of course he was completely innocent) and asked to be deleted….again.

2011.       lessluv
1052 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 10:36 am

snow!!{#lang_emotions_wtf}

2012.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 10:44 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Oh you know…same old thing…..he got pissed off at someone, can’t recall now who exactly it was (just insert one of the usual suspects here).

They traded insults and he rambled on for a bit about the injustice of the mods and why they would not delete the insults against him (of course he was completely innocent) and asked to be deleted….again.

 

GG..stop giving wrong info..

I did not insult him..OK? I was innocent (as usual)

2013.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 10:46 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

GG..stop giving wrong info..

I did not insult him..OK? I was innocent (as usual)

 

 Hmmmm...........did I mention any names????????  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

2014.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 01:56 pm

hide everyone, bod is here!

2015.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 01:57 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

snow!!{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

´tis good

but would be better if it had happened when I was on holiday!!!

2016.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:24 pm

Brits Gone Wild

 

Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.

Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds  -  the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium  -  as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.

Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.

 

A girl sits on the pavement

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103843/Boozy-Britains-bloody-New-Year-A-999-seven-seconds-alcohol-induced-mayhem.html

2017.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:28 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Brits Gone Wild

 

Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.

Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds  -  the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium  -  as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.

Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.

 

A girl sits on the pavement

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103843/Boozy-Britains-bloody-New-Year-A-999-seven-seconds-alcohol-induced-mayhem.html

OMG

This is Aenigma !!!!!!!!

 

2018.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:29 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Brits Gone Wild

 

Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.

Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds  -  the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium  -  as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.

Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.

 

A girl sits on the pavement

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103843/Boozy-Britains-bloody-New-Year-A-999-seven-seconds-alcohol-induced-mayhem.html

 

 OMG I am so proud to be British sometimes.... {#lang_emotions_puking}

2019.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:29 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

OMG

This is Aenigma!!!!!!!!

 

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2020.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:30 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

OMG

This is Aenigma !!!!!!!!

 

 Offffffffffffffffffff!

I will get my revenge for this {#lang_emotions_ninja}

2021.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:50 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

OMG

This is Aenigma !!!!!!!!

 

No - those are pics from the North West.......AE lives some distance away.......

We have to wait for the drunken pics of AE to appear and I am sure it will not be a long wait lol

2022.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:50 pm

US Polar Bear swimmers

...while braving freezing temperatures as hundreds participate in the annual Coney Island Polar Bear Club New Year´s Day swim at Coney Island on January 1, 2009 in New York City.

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96980/96980565.jpg       http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96980/96980567.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96980/96980561.jpg

==================================

 

Competitors struggle through the mud of the River Blackwater in Maldon, Essex UK, during the annual Maldon Mud Race, 4 January 2009. Over 200 competitors, many in fancy dress, took part in the race through freezing estuary mud.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/70/thumbs/55844/55844393.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/70/thumbs/55844/55844401.jpg 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/70/thumbs/55844/55844404.jpg

 

But why?

 

ps. I did not participate in any of the above  events. !!

 

2023.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:54 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Competitors struggle through the mud of the River Blackwater in Maldon, Essex UK, during the annual Maldon Mud Race, 4 January 2009. Over 200 competitors, many in fancy dress, took part in the race through freezing estuary mud.

http://images3.image-data.com/images/70/thumbs/55844/55844393.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/70/thumbs/55844/55844401.jpg 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/70/thumbs/55844/55844404.jpg

 

 

I´ve always wanted to participate........looks like loads of good clean fun

2024.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:55 pm

 

Quoting bod

No - those are pics from the North West.......AE lives some distance away.......

We have to wait for the drunken pics of AE to appear and I am sure it will not be a long wait lol

 

Well. She told me that she will be in Newcastle for the newyear´s eve and will be having ´the best ever night´.

It is her. !!

2025.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:55 pm

 i see no violence here  just a girl in a  relaxed position.

i too quickly thought it was aenigma

Quoting tamikidakika

Brits Gone Wild

 

Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.

Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds  -  the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium  -  as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.

Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.

 

A girl sits on the pavement

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1103843/Boozy-Britains-bloody-New-Year-A-999-seven-seconds-alcohol-induced-mayhem.html

 

 

2026.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 04:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i see no violence here  just a girl in a  relaxed position.

i too quickly thought it was aenigma

 {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 My love quickly turns to hate where you are concerned! {#lang_emotions_ninja}

2027.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:00 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i see no violence here  just a girl in a  relaxed position.

i too quickly thought it was aenigma

 

Well it was.. it was her !!! lol lol

 

2028.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:01 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i see no violence here  just a girl in a  relaxed position.

 

A VERY relaxed position

2029.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:02 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Well it was.. it was her !!! lol lol

 

 I may have eaten one too many mince pies this Christmas, but not THAT MANY!

2030.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:04 pm

Despite your disclaimer, we know this is YOU (on the left) !

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96980/96980565.jpg

2031.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:14 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Despite your disclaimer, we know this is YOU (on the left) !

 

 

 

If I were you, i would stop fighting back in this thread..

You are going deeper and deeper here ..lol lol

2032.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:18 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

If I were you, i would stop fighting back in this thread..

You are going deeper and deeper here ..lol lol

 

 Eh?

2033.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:31 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Despite your disclaimer, we know this is YOU (on the left) !

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96980/96980565.jpg

 

Is that from your personal photograph collection AEnigma???

2034.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:34 pm

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

Quoting TheAenigma

Despite your disclaimer, we know this is YOU (on the left) !

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96980/96980565.jpg

 

who took this pic? is this you on the right this summer at the black sea?

 

2035.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 05:42 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

who took this pic? is this you on the right this summer at the black sea?

 

well..If she is, it means she has put lots of weight since last summer when you think of her latest picture in Newcastle lol lol

2036.       lady in red
6947 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

well..If she is, it means she has put lots of weight since last summer when you think of her latest picture in Newcastle lol lol

 

 .....and had a sex change too by the look of it! {#lang_emotions_razz}

2037.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:10 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 .....and had a sex change too by the look of it! {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

I have noticed that too

To be honest, I always had this image for Aenigma in my head that she was a slender looking blonde!!

But now.. {#lang_emotions_scared}

2038.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:10 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 .....and had a sex change too by the look of it! {#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 you never know what she does over there in IOW shes kinda remote and isolated. she gets outa control there being alone on a small island.

2039.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:11 pm

the absense of our bed amerikans

2040.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:13 pm

 

Quoting bod

Is that from your personal photograph collection AEnigma???

  

Quoting lady in red

 .....and had a sex change too by the look of it! {#lang_emotions_razz}

  

Quoting thehandsom

I have noticed that too

To be honest, I always had this image for Aenigma in my head that she was a slender looking blonde!!

But now.. {#lang_emotions_scared}

  

Quoting femmeous

 you never know what she does over there in IOW shes kinda remote and isolated. she gets outa control there being alone on a small island.

 

 Hey Hey Hey!  Is this "pick on AE" Day?

2041.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:15 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Hey Hey Hey!  Is this "pick on AE" Day?

 

sorry about bringing up that picture. will you ever forgive me?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2042.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:16 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

sorry about bringing up that picture. will you ever forgive me?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 NO

2043.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:18 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

sorry about bringing up that picture. will you ever forgive me?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Thank you for that mate..

2044.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:19 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

sorry about bringing up that picture. will you ever forgive me?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 i just wonder how on earth you got this pic? do you work for paparazzi?

2045.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:20 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i just wonder how on earth you got this pic? do you work for paparazzi?

 

 May I just remind you all that I was ILL ON NEW YEARS EVE!

Even though it was Femme´s birthday I was too ill to go out...let alone drink! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

2046.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:22 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i just wonder how on earth you got this pic? do you work for paparazzi?

 

it was from my private album{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

2047.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:24 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 NO

 

 

Quote:

Thank you for that mate..

 

 

why don`t you send that birthday cake to the hairy, AE?. I`m sure  that would make you feel better.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2048.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:32 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

why don`t you send that birthday cake to the hairy, AE?. I`m sure  that would make you feel better.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 which one? she made 3 different lol

2049.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:33 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

why don`t you send that birthday cake to the hairy, AE?. I`m sure  that would make you feel better.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 I forgive you now!  lol lol lol

It is a good idea

2050.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:34 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 which one? she made 3 different lol

 

I think we all know the answer{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} I don`t want to copy and paste it here, that would be a little inappropriate.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2051.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:47 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

I think we all know the answer{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} I don`t want to copy and paste it here, that would be a little inappropriate.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 ok ok lol i dont want to pretend i didnt know lol

2052.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:48 pm

PM from some Turkish male member......" I am bored here in the US....come talk to me on MSN."  hahaha....I am hardly the font of excitement here in the US!  {#lang_emotions_unsure} 

2053.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:50 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

PM from some Turkish male member......" I am bored here in the US....come talk to me on MSN."  hahaha....I am hardly the font of excitement here in the US!  {#lang_emotions_unsure} 

 your picture must have been very attractive

 

2054.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:52 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

PM from some Turkish male member......" I am bored here in the US....come talk to me on MSN."  hahaha....I am hardly the font of excitement here in the US!  {#lang_emotions_unsure} 

 

and his nick starting with ´t´? lol

2055.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:53 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 your picture must have been very attractive

 

 I think it was the one of you, me and Aenigma in baking class....maybe he thought the sexy foot was mine!

2056.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 06:55 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

and his nick starting with ´t´? lol

 

I suspect it`s you{#lang_emotions_razz}

2057.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 07:04 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

I suspect it`s you{#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 the circle narrows on two of you lol

2058.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 07:05 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

I suspect it`s you{#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 wait a minute lol hairy is not in US. then it must be you lol

2059.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 07:09 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 wait a minute lol hairy is not in US. then it must be you lol

 

 How could you even think for a second that tami wants to have any fun at all!! 

2060.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 07:49 pm

Wow!!  How could have predicted for 2009, that Tam, TheHandsom and Femmous would form a gang to insult me!  {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

(I shall form my own gang with Peacetrain and Bydand )

2061.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 07:55 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Wow!!  How could have predicted for 2009, that Tam, TheHandsom and Femmous would form a gang to insult me!  {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

(I shall form my own gang with Peacetrain and Bydand )

 

 

This is just fine with me....I am going to form a gang with my fellow bed amerikans!  ALL THREE OF US!

2062.       lady in red
6947 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 09:17 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Quoting TheAenigma

Wow!!  How could have predicted for 2009, that Tam, TheHandsom and Femmous would form a gang to insult me!  {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

(I shall form my own gang with Peacetrain and Bydand )

 

 

This is just fine with me....I am going to form a gang with my fellow bed amerikans!  ALL THREE OF US!

 

I´m going to form a gang with catwoman and DK

 

2063.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 09:23 pm

I am not in a gang at all..

At least not with the people Ae is talking about..

She is just paranoid and scared..lol

2064.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 09:41 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

I´m going to form a gang with catwoman and DK

 

Hey, DK may have a British passport but she´s still Dutch! She should be in a gang with Chantal and me (and other Dutch, maybe Zulfu and Kisrak can join?)!

2065.       femmeous
2642 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 09:43 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I am not in a gang at all..

At least not with the people Ae is talking about..

She is just paranoid and scared..lol

 

 {#lang_emotions_wtf} what is wrong with us?

2066.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 09:50 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 {#lang_emotions_wtf} what is wrong with us?

 

Nothing is wrong you + me femme

2067.       Trudy
7887 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 09:53 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Nothing is wrong you + me femme

 

 <giggle>

2068.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Jan 2009 Mon 10:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Nothing is wrong you + me femme

 

 Caught again!  You are SOOO BUSTED!!{#lang_emotions_rant}

 

Femme, I thought you were my friend.....first you steal my dudu....then you start a gang with him! 

2069.       geniuda
1070 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:25 am

 

The fact that "rating functionality" has been added to the essays uploaded here. Can someone explain to me what is the purpose of rating essays?? 

 

Is not that I have added or plan to add any essays but if I´d ever decide to do it, I would feel like if an instructor is giving me a grade for one of my essays.

 

Aren´t essays suppose to be simple thoughts or experiences, why should they be rated?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

btw, I find comments okay but rating?

2070.       femmeous
2642 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:30 am

 

Quoting geniuda

The fact that "rating functionality" has been added to the essays uploaded here. Can someone explain to me what is the purpose of rating essays?? 

 

Is not that I have added or plan to add any essays but if I´d ever decide to do it, I would feel like if an instructor is giving me a grade for one of my essays.

 

Aren´t essays suppose to be simple thoughts or experiences, why should they be rated?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

btw, I find comments okay but rating?

 easy-peasy.

this way you may know whats the best essay lol

or

what type of essays are prefered in TC among lots of sapiks lol

 

2071.       femmeous
2642 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 11:06 am

changes in TC

2072.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 11:56 am

 

Quoting femmeous

changes in TC

 

Have we missed something???

2073.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:11 pm

 

Quoting bod

Have we missed something???

 

 The format of the Forum page is different.  You have to click on the discussion topics linky thingy to see the most recent posts.  {#lang_emotions_neutral}

2074.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:15 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 The format of the Forum page is different.  You have to click on the discussion topics linky thingy to see the most recent posts.  {#lang_emotions_neutral}

 

I dont think it is good idea

It is one more extra click to see which topics are active..

2075.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:18 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I dont think it is good idea

It is one more extra click to see which topics are active..

 

 I can´t really say I´m a fan of it.  When I first logged on, I thought I was hallucinating due to lack of sleep!  {#lang_emotions_confused}

2076.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:20 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 The format of the Forum page is different.  You have to click on the discussion topics linky thingy to see the most recent posts.  {#lang_emotions_neutral}

 

Oh yes.......

I completely missed that - mainly because the Off Topic forum was still open on this computer!

 

But it does seem strange to add an extra click when there are far more annoying things that could do with addressing.   Such as making it so that tabbing forwards from the posting window goes straight to the send button and not to the Turkish character buttons!

2077.       lessluv
1052 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:21 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 I can´t really say I´m a fan of it.  When I first logged on, I thought I was hallucinating due to lack of sleep!  {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 + 1

2078.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 12:52 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 I can´t really say I´m a fan of it.

 

That is often the case with things that are done in the name of ´progress´

2079.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 01:36 pm

Offffffff TC is messed up again.... no recent messages

EDIT: Ahh ok its changed....

2080.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:10 pm

Is this delibarate behaviour? Anyway seems better to me. At least you can click on ">>" to go to the last page of a particular thread. It´s a saving in bandwidth.

And probably will not notice some annoying posts this way.

2081.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:16 pm

 

Quoting si++

Is this delibarate behaviour? Anyway seems better to me. At least you can click on ">>" to go to the last page of a particular thread. It´s a saving in bandwidth.

 

How can it be saving the bandwith since all the content is already in the page?

Clicking just makes it visible..that is all

It is not ajax..

2082.       femmeous
2642 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:23 pm

 

Quoting si++

Is this delibarate behaviour? Anyway seems better to me. At least you can click on ">>" to go to the last page of a particular thread. It´s a saving in bandwidth.

 

is this thing >> new to the forum, it always was there

2083.       lady in red
6947 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:26 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

is this thing >> new to the forum, it always was there

 

 I was just about to say that - its always been there since I´ve been on TC.

2084.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:27 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Yes - its always been there since I´ve been on TC.

 

Not on the main page. when you clck a topic on the main page you would go to the first page first.

2085.       femmeous
2642 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:28 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

How can it be saving the bandwith since all the content is already in the page?

Clicking just makes it visible..that is all

It is not ajax..

 

 guys, its not so bad.

you should be grateful that we dont have new rules for a new year lol

2086.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

How can it be saving the bandwith since all the content is already in the page?

Clicking just makes it visible..that is all

It is not ajax..

 

Oh I think I explained it. I used to click on anything from main page that would take you to the first page first. When you goto a specific page you can click on ">>" to goto the last page.

 

This change forces you to go to a specific topic page.

2087.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:41 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

you should be grateful that we dont have new rules for a new year lol

 

Don´t start putting ideas into people´s heads!!!

2088.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:44 pm

The reason why this change is VERY annoying, is that when you finished with a particular thread you cant just click on forum topics to see the other topics.  You have to go back and click "latest discussion messages" each time

 

It would be useful if there was a link to the latest discussion messages on the left hand side.

2089.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:47 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

The reason why this change is VERY annoying, is that when you finished with a particular thread you cant just click on forum topics to see the other topics.  You have to go back and click "latest discussion messages" each time

 

But the link to the forum index is still at the top of each thread.......

 

2090.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:50 pm

 

Quoting bod

But the link to the forum index is still at the top of each thread.......

 

 No, I am not talking about the forum index, I am talking about the Latest Discussion Messages. 

2091.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 02:52 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 No, I am not talking about the forum index, I am talking about the Latest Discussion Messages. 

 

Do you mean the lower half of this page ???

2092.       femmeous
2642 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 03:15 pm

 

Quoting bod

Don´t start putting ideas into people´s heads!!!

 

 shhhhhhh, quickly delete this post, before LIR sees it

2093.       femmeous
2642 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 03:19 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

The reason why this change is VERY annoying, is that when you finished with a particular thread you cant just click on forum topics to see the other topics.  You have to go back and click "latest discussion messages" each time

 

It would be useful if there was a link to the latest discussion messages on the left hand side.

 offf

stop moaning. you still have your freedom to come here and post your hidious posts anytime you wish. at least theres no a tiny regime here

 

2094.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 04:22 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 offf

stop moaning. you still have your freedom to come here and post your hidious posts anytime you wish.

 

 

2095.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 04:24 pm

 

 

Quoting bod

Do you mean the lower half of this page ???

 

 Yeah...that is the only bit I look at   I dont actually go into the Forums themselves, I just work off the "Latest Discussion Messages" bit - because you can preview the latest posts there.

 

Anyway....just a gripe.....

2096.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 04:29 pm

EVEN MORE ANNOYING...... when you are in "latest discussion messages" and you refresh the page to see new posts, it takes you back to the forum page and you have to re-click on it...

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!  These changes might FINALLY get rid of me for good! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

2097.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 04:31 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

EVEN MORE ANNOYING...... when you are in "latest discussion messages" and you refresh the page to see new posts, it takes you back to the forum page and you have to re-click on it...

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!  These changes might FINALLY get rid of me for good! {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

 It seems catwoman is more devious than we thought!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2098.       doudi94
845 posts
 06 Jan 2009 Tue 08:43 pm

I wanted to say to all my orthodox christian friends here merry christmas (todays their eve)

merry christmas Julia, Tony, Mina, Christnine, NAncy, Mirette, Sandra, Osama, Sheref

and everybody else MUAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!~

Julia told me that today they got o church at 6 pm and finish their ceremonies at about 2 am!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOW!

Today they wer fasting, but here they afst not like us, but a different fast, they dont eat anythign taht once had a soul, means no eggs, no cake, no mayyonaise!

No poultry or meat or all those things, u knoiw, just rice and vegetables

You know they also have fasting months, they do this fasting thing for 3 months every year, i think its even more difficult tahn our fasting!

But not all of them fast, Christine´s like give me a bite of that sandwich, i told her but it has mayyonaise she slike its okay! LOOOOOOOL! She ate it and then she kept on fasting loool

Anyway, we have 2moro and thursday off, weve had sooo many holidays recently!

2099.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 01:13 am

We have this doudi,and we also have another one,i cant find it right now .

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_1871

2100.       femmeous
2642 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 01:19 am

 

Quoting CANLI

We have this doudi,and we also have another one,i cant find it right now .

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_1871

 

 i think you dont understant her

she means (eastern) orthodox church. and its a bit different.

2101.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 03:43 am

Oppss,yes i know it of course..we are celebrating it today 7/1

Ý dont know how i saw that date as 7/1,i made search for the Orthodox Christmas ´i made such a thread a year ago or so´ and came up with this one

Seems i wasnt concentrating {#lang_emotions_shy}

Doudi,skip that link .

2102.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 10:19 am

Everything back to normal!  -  The Voice of the Masses was heard!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2103.       lessluv
1052 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 11:14 am

 

Quoting lady in red

Everything back to normal!  -  The Voice of the Masses was heard!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}{#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

2104.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 12:50 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Everything back to normal!

 

*CouGH*

 

There is nothing normal about TC!!!

2105.       chiko
135 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 12:52 pm

Hugo Chavez´s angry speech about Israel  - I love Latin AmericaI wish we had such a prime minister who prefers to be honoured instead of being slave of  "power".

 

Venezuela has ordered the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador to Caracas in protest at Israel´s offensive in the Gaza Strip.

 

A number of diplomatic staff have been expelled along with Shlomo Cohen.

President Hugo Chavez has strongly condemned Israel for its actions and called on Israelis to stand up against their government.

 

Venezuela is the first country to take such a diplomatic step in protest at the violence in Gaza.

"The Israeli army is cowardly attacking worn-out, innocent people, while they claim that they are defending their people," Mr Chavez said during a visit to a children´s hospital in Caracas.

"I call on the people of Israel to stand up against that government, to demand, to put a hand on their hearts and look at their children, and I call on the world to stop this madness."

Shortly after, the foreign ministry released a statement ordering the expulsion of Mr Cohen and some of his staff, in what they said was a show of solidarity with the Palestinians. 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7814857.stm

 

 

2106.       femmeous
2642 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 01:07 pm

 

Quoting chiko

Hugo Chavez´s angry speech about Israel  - I love Latin AmericaI wish we had such a prime minister who prefers to be honoured instead of being slave of  "power".

 

you love latin america? whats so lovely about it? never ending poverty and corruption, slavery?

a slave to a power? i think he owns no brain like many of his countrymen. why? they dont think of their people, they dont take care of them, their people live in slums kept with no education, and their leaders are proud slave traders who oppose so called "power".

 

Venezuela has ordered the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador to Caracas in protest at Israel´s offensive in the Gaza Strip.

 

i think this is a stupid thing to do. you dont expel the embassies even if its direct enemy´s embassy. thats undiplomatic.

A number of diplomatic staff have been expelled along with Shlomo Cohen.

President Hugo Chavez has strongly condemned Israel for its actions and called on Israelis to stand up against their government.

 

vai vai, what now? israel has lost its brownie point.

 

Venezuela is the first country to take such a diplomatic step in protest at the violence in Gaza.

 

masalah, they should be rewarded, chiko, are you polishing the medals?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7814857.stm

 

 

2107.       chiko
135 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 01:46 pm

I love Latin America´s music, people, the way they live and the way they stand against US. dont be so jealous honey, I love you more than Latin America.

2108.       femmeous
2642 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 02:18 pm

 

Quoting chiko

I love Latin America´s music, people, the way they live and the way they stand against US. dont be so jealous honey, I love you more than Latin America.

 

 ciko, our tastes are like southern and northern poles.

2109.       mltm
3690 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 02:29 pm

Bod has invaded the forum.   

2110.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 02:41 pm

 

Quoting mltm

Bod has invaded the forum.   

 

Right...and it´s not the first time the Forum got Bodilised lol

2111.       femmeous
2642 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 03:17 pm

im worried about aenigmas absense,

shes progressively moving ahead in the most active users list.

soon, in a couple of months she will be on top of bod.

2112.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 03:26 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

soon, in a couple of months she will be on top of bod.

 

that´s her hidden agenda. Bod won´t mind though, I bet lol

2113.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 03:56 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

that´s her hidden agenda. Bod won´t mind though, I bet lol

 

lol  -  I probably won´t object at all  -  lol

2114.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 04:13 pm

Tunnels of Gaza

 Gaza´s smugglers are going legit.

The owners of hundreds of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border have registered with the Hamas authorities, signed pledges to pay workers´ compensation and hooked up their underground operations to the local electricity network

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982598.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982601.jpg

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982602.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982606.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982608.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982612.jpg

 

 

 

2115.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 04:16 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Tunnels of Gaza

 Gaza´s smugglers are going legit.

The owners of hundreds of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border have registered with the Hamas authorities, signed pledges to pay workers´ compensation and hooked up their underground operations to the local electricity network

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982598.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982601.jpg

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982602.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982606.jpg

http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982608.jpg  http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/96982/96982612.jpg

 

The sheep doesn´t look too happy about this........

2116.       femmeous
2642 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 04:18 pm

Terror in Turkey for Bnei Hasharon team

 

Bnei Hasharon experienced two hours of terror in Ankara on Tuesday evening.

Moments before the tip-off of the Israeli team´s Eurocup encounter against Turk Telekom some 3,000 Turkish fans shouted ´Allah Akbar´ and, by some accounts, ´death to the Jews´ in protest against the IDF´s actions in Gaza.

Other fans threw bottles at the Israeli players and stormed the court, forcing the Israelis to flee for the dressing rooms.

The players and staff were only able to leave for their hotel thanks to a massive police escort after being stranded for two long hours in the locker room

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1231167284870

2117.       cedars
235 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 06:57 pm

I just found out that if I place the mouse on a username in the box "User Statistics" without clicking on it I get a small popup message that tells me what that user is looking at in the TC website at that moment!!

No privacy on this site

user angela_kaya is on turkish_lesson_1 , user katalin is on turkish_lesson_5, and user cedars is not studying turkish as she should be doing

 

2118.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 07:01 pm

 

Quoting cedars

I just found out that if I place the mouse on a username in the box "User Statistics" without clicking on it I get a small popup message that tells me what that user is looking at in the TC website at that moment!!

No privacy on this site

user angela_kaya is on turkish_lesson_1 , user katalin is on turkish_lesson_5, and user cedars is not studying turkish as she should be doing

 

You only just discovered the joys of ´hovering´?? Where have you been??   lol lol (and I see user cedars is STILL not studying Turkish

2119.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 07:03 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Everything back to what passes for normal!

Quoting bod

*CouGH*

 

There is nothing normal about TC!!!

 

 Better?

2120.       femmeous
2642 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 07:07 pm

 

Quoting cedars

I just found out that if I place the mouse on a username in the box "User Statistics" without clicking on it I get a small popup message that tells me what that user is looking at in the TC website at that moment!!

No privacy on this site

user angela_kaya is on turkish_lesson_1 , user katalin is on turkish_lesson_5, and user cedars is not studying turkish as she should be doing

 

 lol thats a dangerous thing you´ve discovered.

hairy is constantly checking me up. dont be jealous, he is obessesed only with me.

2121.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 07:38 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 lol thats a dangerous thing you´ve discovered.

hairy is constantly checking me up. dont be jealous, he is obessesed only with me.

 

 Stop spreading such lies femme.....you know he PROMISED me he was not interested in you!{#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

2122.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 07:52 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Stop spreading such lies femme.....you know he PROMISED me he was not interested in you!{#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

 

 As long as you and femme are fighting over TheH., the rest of us is not in danger.... Keep on going girls! Good job! lol lol

2123.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 08:07 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 As long as you and femme are fighting over TheH., the rest of us is not in danger.... Keep on going girls! Good job! lol lol

 

 OFFFFF!! I KNOW you want him.....how can anyone resist all that hair?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2124.       geniuda
1070 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 08:17 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 OFFFFF!! I KNOW you want him.....how can anyone resist all that hair?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 OFFFFF!! I KNOW you want him.....how can anyone resist all that hair?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

OK OK Lis, we got it the first time...calm down calm down, dont fight over Thehairy ..everyone wants him, but you know he only wants you.....{#lang_emotions_cry}

2125.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 09:04 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 OFFFFF!! I KNOW you want him.....how can anyone resist all that hair?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 My hot wax is ready! (I dislike hair on a man´s body!)

2126.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 09:10 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 My hot wax is ready! (I dislike hair on a man´s body!)

 

 I have pictures of you braiding his hair in the park........you both looked very cozy......I think the distain for his hair is all a cover so that we don´t suspect you.  Don´t make me reveal the scope of your deceit in my next Tabloid!! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2127.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 09:14 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

I have pictures of you braiding his hair in the park........you both looked very cozy......I think the distain for his hair is all a cover so that we don´t suspect you.  Don´t make me reveal the scope of your deceit in my next Tabloid!! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 O, please do! I´m so curious, can´t wait! lol lol

2128.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Jan 2009 Wed 10:53 pm

 

Turkish hackers attack Israeli Web sites

Two Turkish hackers have launched a massive cyber-attack against private and public Israeli Web sites as a reaction to the Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip, which started on Dec. 27.

 

Two individuals, N.D., who was educated abroad in the field of information technology, and B.S., a university student in Bursa, have so far defaced 500 Israeli Web sites.

The hackers leave notes in Turkish, German and English on the Web sites they attack, saying: "We are making a small-scale protest just to show you your shameful acts. You are doing to the Palestinian public what Hitler did to you." The Turkish hackers also post the photos of Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers on the Web sites

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=163436

 

2129.       lessluv
1052 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 12:09 pm

oooh new job prospects????{#lang_emotions_mobile_phone}

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4162042/Psst-Want-to-join-MI6.html

 

There is a demand for more women, too. Not just bluestockings, but the kind who know what to do with scatter cushions. Only that could explain the presence of Good Housekeeping at a recent SIS press conference held at Tate Modern in London, intended to stimulate more applications from target groups

 

i can scatter cushions {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

Based at "head office" in London following assignments in Africa and the Middle East, Nick was initially attracted to MI6 by the chance to travel – an SIS officer may spend months in a country absorbing its culture. After joining he was "amazed" how friendly it was. "Occasionally you do work long hours. It might be midnight in the UK but it´s midday in another part of the world. But I do get to drop my daughter at nursery and pick her up."

Catherine joined SIS nine years ago after applying for the Foreign Office. "Halfway through the interview, this lovely lady said it wasn´t for the Foreign Office, it was for SIS. I sat there with my mouth open. She went off to have a cup of tea while I thought about it."

Her concern was that it might be dangerous, "but I can tell you that it´s not. The safety of staff is paramount. You are never asked to do anything you are not happy with." SIS operations do require muscle on occasion, but this tends to take the form of ex-special forces contractors rather than serving intelligence officers. Shooting at things is not really MI6´s thing.

The selection process takes nine months for a successful candidate, beginning with the online application form. Applicants must be British and hold a 2:2 degree or above. You must not have used Class A drugs in the last 12 months and have abstained from Class B and C drugs in the last six months. If you are a manic depressive, a schizophrenic or a bankrupt, don´t bother applying. So the good news seems to be that if you kicked your heroin habit 13 months ago you are in with a chance! {#lang_emotions_lol}

Up to 80 per cent of applicants fail the application form, usually by not bothering to read it properly and failing to supply what it asks for. Half the applicants selected for first interview fall at that hurdle, and half the remainder fail the second interview. The winnowing process continues with an assessment course. Five per cent of applicants fail personal vetting.

"The old talent-spotting system was very labour-intensive, very rickety," said John.

What kind of people did he want in his recruitment in-tray?

"Motivated problem-solvers who do not crave the limelight. People who are good at building relationships. You may have to ask people to supply information that may place them in danger."

Was SIS short of applicants?

"The numbers are very healthy but we feel people are ruling themselves out."

What about eccentrics, were they tolerated?

"We may take a punt."

 

 

2130.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 02:56 pm

Chairlift incident

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7816336.stm

 

An American skier had a bit of a nasty experience (along with other skiers {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} who witnessed it) when he slipped out of a malfunctioning chair lift, and hung upside down by one leg of his ski suit, exposing his bare buttocks and privates for all see for some 15 min!

 

Oooooooh .................... that cold {#lang_emotions_scared}

2131.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 06:13 pm

Who wants longer lasting sex?

 

A billboard poster advertising a nasal spray for male sexual problems is displayed on January 8, 2009 in London, England. The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) has asked the Advanced Medical Institute, who are promoting the spray with the phrase "want longer lasting sex ?", to remove the adverts. They have refused,

 

http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95699/95699745.jpg   http://images3.image-data.com/images/74/thumbs/95699/95699747.jpg

 

here is the number (in case it is not clear enough in pictures) 0800 082 6030

2132.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 06:37 pm

Boy, 6, Tries To Drive To School
and drives 10 miles

 

The youngster, who has not been named, missed his school bus in Wicomico Church, Virginia, early on Monday morning.

His father had already left for work, leaving the boy and his four-year-old brother at home with their mother, who was still asleep.

After she failed to wake up in time to help him get ready, he decided to take the keys to the Ford Taurus and make his own way to Northumberland Elementary School.

But after driving for around 10 miles, possibly standing up, he lost control of the vehicle and crashed.

 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090108..fd0ae9.html

2133.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 07:06 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

here is the number (in case it is not clear enough in pictures) 0800 082 6030

 

 

*makes a note*

lol

 

2134.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 07:07 pm

“There’s probably no God,”

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/worcc416dcd0bd&ei=5087%0A

 

the advertisements say. “Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.”

 

http://www.atheistbus.org.uk/

2135.       teaschip
3870 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 08:16 pm

Gas prices are going up..{#lang_emotions_confused}

2136.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 08:21 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Gas prices are going up..{#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 I guess the fun had to end sometime! 

2137.       dreamsr4living
63 posts
 09 Jan 2009 Fri 02:38 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Boy, 6, Tries To Drive To School
and drives 10 miles

 

The youngster, who has not been named, missed his school bus in Wicomico Church, Virginia, early on Monday morning.

His father had already left for work, leaving the boy and his four-year-old brother at home with their mother, who was still asleep.

After she failed to wake up in time to help him get ready, he decided to take the keys to the Ford Taurus and make his own way to Northumberland Elementary School.

But after driving for around 10 miles, possibly standing up, he lost control of the vehicle and crashed.

 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090108..fd0ae9.html

 

I saw at the bottom of the article about both parents being arrested and that the children are now in foster care.

In my personal opinion, I don´t see how the father had anything to do with it, he went to work for the children to be in care of the mother. Ok the mother needs to pay a hell of a lot more attention to her kids more often but honestly, who would think their 6 year old child would take your car and drive to school? {#lang_emotions_noway}

It´s not so much as letting the parents off for something as extreme as that but to be arrested and to put both the kids in care (which is not always a good thing either) I think is a little on the extreme side of punishment.

2138.       dreamsr4living
63 posts
 09 Jan 2009 Fri 02:44 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Gas prices are going up..{#lang_emotions_confused}

 

Along with everything else in the world {#lang_emotions_head_bang} Where I live now it used to cost £7.50 for 4 stops on a train, when I was in New York, it was $4 (return) to get around on the subway mostly anywhere and now they are putting the prices up even HIGHER!! As if it wasn´t expensive enough!

2139.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 09 Jan 2009 Fri 06:25 am

Man gives wife kidney, she breaks his heart...now he wants his kidney back! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2009/01/08/Man-wants-kidney-back-from/1231434751.html

2140.       Melek74
1506 posts
 09 Jan 2009 Fri 09:26 pm

KABUL, Afghanistan – The mother and brother of a 14-year-old girl who was raped are facing prosecution for allegedly performing an abortion on her in a cattle shed in central Afghanistan, officials said (...) The abortion was performed about nine days ago, using no anesthesia. The incisions were stitched up with a thick string usually used to sew up potato sacks (...)

Nader said the girl told him that she had not known her mother and brother´s plan when they took her into the cattle shed. She said the two of them wrestled her to the ground and held her down while they cut her stomach open. She blacked out for much of the ordeal, but she said she remembered seeing her brother hold up the fetus.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan_backyard_abortion

 

I have no words to comment on this.

2141.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 09 Jan 2009 Fri 10:26 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

I have no words to comment on this.

 

 +1 {#lang_emotions_sad}

2142.       teaschip
3870 posts
 09 Jan 2009 Fri 10:28 pm

Wanting to see the new movie Valkyrie.  Has anyone seen it yet?

2143.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 10 Jan 2009 Sat 01:41 am

2144.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 07:50 am

Trudy´s pictures from South Africa! I wish she posted more though..

2145.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 08:38 am

 

Quoting catwoman

Trudy´s pictures from South Africa! I wish she posted more though..

 

Where? I´d love to see them too!

2146.       Trudy
7887 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 10:18 am

 

Quoting catwoman

Trudy´s pictures from South Africa! I wish she posted more though..

 

 I´m only allowed to post 4 pictures. The other 2 I like to keep for a while. Sorry.

2147.       lessluv
1052 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 11:49 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/three-arrested-as-gaza-marchers-clash-with-police-1299670.html

 

The Israeli embassy in central London turned into a battleground yesterday evening as police and demonstrators clashed following a pro-Palestinian rally.

Organisers estimated that at the peak of the protest up to 100,000 people had braved snow and sub-zero temperatures to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, but police believe the figure was closer to 20,000.

In London, 13 people were taken to hospital following increasingly violent scuffles between police and protesters, and scores more were treated at the scene. The trouble began when protesters hurled shoes at the US embassy, in the spirit of Iraqi journalist Muntadar al-Zaidi, who threw his shoes at George Bush in protest at his "war crimes".

 

the reason for my clothing choices yesterday!!

2148.       lessluv
1052 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 01:33 pm

 

 

 But what really caught my eye was number  5 6  5 in the "most viewed" list {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2149.       lessluv
1052 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 10:55 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 But what really caught my eye was number  5 6  5 in the "most viewed" list {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 ha ha it´s moved up to number 3 {#lang_emotions_lol} lady in red you only need to look once

2150.       lady in red
6947 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 11:02 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 ha ha it´s moved up to number 3 {#lang_emotions_lol} lady in red you only need to look once

 

 You´ve lost me! - must be my age!!  lol

2151.       lessluv
1052 posts
 11 Jan 2009 Sun 11:04 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 You´ve lost me! - must be my age!!  lol

 

 

 

 But what really caught my eye was number  5 6  5 3 2 in the "most viewed" list {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2152.       femmeous
2642 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 08:07 pm

Would-be Chinese bride, 107, seeks first husband

A 107-year-old Chinese woman who was afraid to marry when she was young has decided to look for her first husband and hopes to find a fellow centenarian so they will have something to talk about, a Chinese paper reported.

Wang Guiying is worried she is becoming a burden to her ageing nieces and nephews since breaking her leg when she was 102 and had to stop doing chores like washing her clothes.

"I´m already 107 and I still haven´t got married," the Chongqing Commercial Times quoted her saying. "What will happen if I don´t hurry up and find a husband?"

Born in southern Guizhou province the child of a salt merchant, Wang grew up watching her uncles and other men scold and beat their wives and often found her aunt crying in the woodshed after an attack, the paper said.

"All the married people around there lived like that. Getting married was too frightening," she said of an era when Chinese women had few rights and low social standing.

Many also had their feet bound in an excruciating process aimed at making them look more dainty and marriageable.

After Wang´s father, mother and older sister died, she still shied away from marriage. Instead she moved to the countryside and survived as a farmer until she was 74 years old and no longer strong enough to work in the fields, the report said.

Her nephew in the booming city of Chongqing then took Wang in, but she is worried he and her other nephews and nieces are too old to take care of her now even the youngest is 60.

"My nephews and nieces are getting older and their children are already tied up with their own families and I am becoming more and more of a burden," she said.

Local officials have said they are happy to help Wang search for a 100-year old groom, and suggested her family get in touch with old people´s homes to find candidates, the paper said.

 

do people live this long?

2153.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 08:56 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Would-be Chinese bride, 107, seeks first husband

A 107-year-old Chinese woman who was afraid to marry when she was young has decided to look for her first husband and hopes to find a fellow centenarian so they will have something to talk about, a Chinese paper reported.

Wang Guiying is worried she is becoming a burden to her ageing nieces and nephews since breaking her leg when she was 102 and had to stop doing chores like washing her clothes.

"I´m already 107 and I still haven´t got married," the Chongqing Commercial Times quoted her saying. "What will happen if I don´t hurry up and find a husband?"

Born in southern Guizhou province the child of a salt merchant, Wang grew up watching her uncles and other men scold and beat their wives and often found her aunt crying in the woodshed after an attack, the paper said.

"All the married people around there lived like that. Getting married was too frightening," she said of an era when Chinese women had few rights and low social standing.

Many also had their feet bound in an excruciating process aimed at making them look more dainty and marriageable.

After Wang´s father, mother and older sister died, she still shied away from marriage. Instead she moved to the countryside and survived as a farmer until she was 74 years old and no longer strong enough to work in the fields, the report said.

Her nephew in the booming city of Chongqing then took Wang in, but she is worried he and her other nephews and nieces are too old to take care of her now even the youngest is 60.

"My nephews and nieces are getting older and their children are already tied up with their own families and I am becoming more and more of a burden," she said.

Local officials have said they are happy to help Wang search for a 100-year old groom, and suggested her family get in touch with old people´s homes to find candidates, the paper said.

 

do people live this long?

 

 Gosh why ruin it now...she isn´t missing anything someone tell her.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  Just me I suppose, but I don´t want to be 102 still washing my cloths..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

2154.       femmeous
2642 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:32 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Gosh why ruin it now...she isn´t missing anything someone tell her.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  Just me I suppose, but I don´t want to be 102 still washing my cloths..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 you dont understand, they still wash by hands and younger dudu would help her with laundry.

i dont want to live that long another 30-40 years should be enough.

2155.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:38 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 you dont understand, they still wash by hands and younger dudu would help her with laundry.

i dont want to live that long another 30-40 years should be enough.

 

 Well then tell her to join TC..maybe she could find a younger dudu here to wash cloths.  But she better have money.  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  I would just be happy to last until I´m 80.

2156.       femmeous
2642 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:40 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Well then tell her to join TC..maybe she could find a younger dudu here to wash cloths.  But she better have money.  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  I would just be happy to last until I´m 80.

 

 eh, if i just had good conexions with dudus lol

2157.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:51 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 eh, if i just had good conexions with dudus lol

 

 I had to take a double glance at this...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  But you do..I think you even know a couple here.{#lang_emotions_wink}

2158.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:52 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 I had to take a double glance at this...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  But you do..I think you even know a couple here.{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

 Dudu´s? Here? Where?

2159.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:54 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Dudu´s? Here? Where?

 

 Here, there and everywhere..  Didn´t you get the pm today from our new member?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2160.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 09:59 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Here, there and everywhere..  Didn´t you get the pm today from our new member?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

No. I guess I´m too old, even for dudu´s. {#lang_emotions_cry} Who will cheer me up now?

 

2161.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 10:00 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Here, there and everywhere..  Didn´t you get the pm today from our new member?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Who????  Am I being ignored by a new dudu???  {#lang_emotions_rant}

2162.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 10:11 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Who????  Am I being ignored by a new dudu???  {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 Um, just checked he is not a new member.{#lang_emotions_shy}  Sorry, can´t  keep track of all the dudus..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2163.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 10:16 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 Um, just checked he is not a new member.{#lang_emotions_shy}  Sorry, can´t  keep track of all the dudus..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Names girl!!  We want NAMES!! {#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

2164.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 10:21 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

Names girl!!  We want NAMES!! {#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

 

I tried to give you a hint before..UM....{#lang_emotions_head_bang}  I don´t have u mut who is 27.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} 

2165.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Jan 2009 Mon 10:24 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I tried to give you a hint before..UM....{#lang_emotions_head_bang}  I don´t have u mut who is 27.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} 

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2166.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 01:53 am

 

Quoting teaschip

I tried to give you a hint before..UM....{#lang_emotions_head_bang}  I don´t have u mut who is 27.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} 

 

 I got one, I got one!!  Whew!!  I was starting to wonder if I had lost my "rat" charm {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

2167.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 02:18 am

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

Quoting girleegirl

 I got one, I got one!!  Whew!!  I was starting to wonder if I had lost my "rat" charm {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

2168.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 02:31 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 I got one, I got one!!  Whew!!  I was starting to wonder if I had lost my "rat" charm {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 Our "rat" charm must be in power tonight...I just got one too.... The tourists frequent often in desolate places.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2169.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 02:38 am

 

Quoting teaschip

 Our "rat" charm must be in power tonight...I just got one too.... The tourists frequent often in desolate places.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Your rat charm must be more powerful than mine.  I have not been frequented by tourists!

 

 

 

Hey....where did my smilies go????? 

2170.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 02:58 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Your rat charm must be more powerful than mine.  I have not been frequented by tourists!

 

 

 

Hey....where did my smilies go????? 

 

 Oops...I spoke too soon.

 

And yay!!! My smilies are back!!! {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

 

 

Hmmmm.....I wonder if he saw my post and thought that it meant I wanted to be frequented?  Note to self - be more careful in posts {#lang_emotions_scared}

2171.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 03:06 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Oops...I spoke too soon.

 

And yay!!! My smilies are back!!! {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

 

 

Hmmmm.....I wonder if he saw my post and thought that it meant I wanted to be frequented?  Note to self - be more careful in posts {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 All is well then..you have your smilies back.  Please be careful..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2172.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 03:14 am

What is the deal with all of these reality shows on TLC.  People that have 18, 12 & 8 kids.  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2173.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 03:18 am

 

Quoting teaschip

What is the deal with all of these reality shows on TLC.  People that have 18, 12 & 8 kids.  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

Respectively -

{#lang_emotions_scared}

 {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

2174.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 04:39 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Respectively -

{#lang_emotions_scared}

 {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

{#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

lol lol lol lol

2175.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:53 am

mysterious muslimahs love me and some angels are just obsessed with me

2176.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:55 am

 

Quoting femmeous

some angels are just obsessed with me

 

 Shhhhhh

2177.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:58 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Shhhhhh

 

 why? is she sleeping?

2178.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:58 am

 

Quoting femmeous

 why? is she sleeping?

 

 Salak!  I meant that you should not tell everyone that I am obsessed with you!

I assumed you meant me, as I am the only angel here

2179.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 12:19 pm

Doggy bags

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/03726/03726376.jpg

2180.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 02:50 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Salak!  I meant that you should not tell everyone that I am obsessed with you!

I assumed you meant me, as I am the only angel here

 

 your nick doesnt mean an angel it rather means mysterious. {#lang_emotions_head_bang} i donno

2181.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 03:54 pm

EUREKA!

 

i ve discovered something new, ladies, an alternative that i ignored for some time.

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=moFxuKGu7Kg&feature=PlayList&p=C1F2B6A647666069&index=10

 

 

2182.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 05:31 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Doggy bags

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/03726/03726376.jpg

 

OMG... this is hilarious!!! lol

2183.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 07:42 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Doggy bags

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/03726/03726376.jpg

 

 Why does she have a giant spider in her hair? {#lang_emotions_scared}

2184.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 07:55 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Why does she have a giant spider in her hair? {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

you women are really  scary creatures!! {#lang_emotions_scared}

I did look at that picture several times in last a few days but I have not noticed the hair clip she is wearing, looks like a spider!! phew..

2185.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 08:21 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

you women are really  scary creatures!! {#lang_emotions_scared}

I did look at that picture several times in last a few days but I have not noticed the hair clip she is wearing, looks like a spider!! phew..

 

 But it does!!!  That was the first thing I saw!  It took me a minute to get past that and see that poor puppy strapped to her back!  {#lang_emotions_confused}

2186.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 09:00 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 But it does!!!  That was the first thing I saw!  It took me a minute to get past that and see that poor puppy strapped to her back!  {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

 Its a girl thing....my thought was "ouhhh fur collars are sooooooooooooo last year!" and "she needs to dye her dark roots" :lol lol lol

2187.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 09:05 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

"she needs to dye her dark roots" :lol lol lol

 

 Oh that reminds me...I have to go do my hair!!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

2188.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:40 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Oh that reminds me...I have to go do my hair!!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

 

be careful, even if the box reads Platinium Blonde you may end up with lemon yellow like one of the members here, whose name I shall not mention {#lang_emotions_ninja}

2189.       femmeous
2642 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:43 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

you women are really  scary creatures!! {#lang_emotions_scared}

I did look at that picture several times in last a few days but I have not noticed the hair clip she is wearing, looks like a spider!! phew..

 

 lol i dont belong to those women

 

i hardly noticed a dog there lol

2190.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jan 2009 Tue 11:50 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

be careful, even if the box reads Platinium Blonde you may end up with lemon yellow like one of the members here, whose name I shall not mention {#lang_emotions_ninja}

 

lol lol 

Please do DD..   "lemon yellow like" eh?  I love this!!!

2191.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 12:06 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

be careful, even if the box reads Platinium Blonde you may end up with lemon yellow like one of the members here, whose name I shall not mention {#lang_emotions_ninja}

 

 Ohhhh NOW you tell me!!!  {#lang_emotions_rant}

2192.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 12:29 am

Hehehe Femme and Teas in a bag...... lol lol lol

Teas check your facts carefully with Femme before posting

2193.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 12:29 am

 

Quoting femmeous

 lol i dont belong to those women

 

i hardly noticed a dog there lol

 

 has anyone noticed the style of the pockets? this lady is combined with animals lol

nice style

2194.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 12:54 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Hehehe Femme and Teas in a bag...... lol lol lol

Teas check your facts carefully with Femme before posting

 

 AE...yeah I can really see your an expert when it comes to the bible.  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2195.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 01:00 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Hehehe Femme and Teas in a bag...... lol lol lol

Teas check your facts carefully with Femme before posting

 

 why? whats wrong with her posts? you dont like them because she is the only westerner who doesnt join the "lets jump on jews" campaign?

2196.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 02:29 am

OUCH! CAT SURVIVES GRISLY ACCIDENT

Surgeons in the U.S. perform a delicate operation reattaching a cat´s FACE after it was ripped off in a horror accident. Four-year-old moggie Edgar was dozing under the bonnet of a car when a motorist started it up, accidentally tearing off the poor puss´ skin. Edgar´s unnamed owner found him at home, slumped in his litter box in agony and was so shocked she passed out. But vets at the Angell Animal Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts, spent an hour stitching Edgar up and he remarkably survived

 

 

This is after the surgery..

I am not going to put before the surgery pictures..

2197.       lessluv
1052 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 03:11 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

OUCH! CAT SURVIVES GRISLY ACCIDENT

Surgeons in the U.S. perform a delicate operation reattaching a cat´s FACE after it was ripped off in a horror accident. Four-year-old moggie Edgar was dozing under the bonnet of a car when a motorist started it up, accidentally tearing off the poor puss´ skin. Edgar´s unnamed owner found him at home, slumped in his litter box in agony and was so shocked she passed out. But vets at the Angell Animal Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts, spent an hour stitching Edgar up and he remarkably survived

 

 

This is after the surgery..

I am not going to put before the surgery pictures..

 

 god that is awful.....perhaps he´ll find a safer sleeping spot now!!

2198.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 05:33 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

OUCH! CAT SURVIVES GRISLY ACCIDENT

 

This is after the surgery..

I am not going to put before the surgery pictures..

 

Thanks for not posting the surgery pictures but seriously, can´t you please just post links to these types of graphic pictures?   Not everyone wants to see this! {#lang_emotions_noway}

2199.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 10:44 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Thanks for not posting the surgery pictures but seriously, can´t you please just post links to these types of graphic pictures?   Not everyone wants to see this! {#lang_emotions_noway}

 

OK ok..

Apologies..But the story  had a happy ending..

I will try to stick to mating pandas.. 

2200.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 10:50 am

Muslim Google hits the Web

 

ISTANBUL - A new search engine on the Internet was launched recently, but this time it is for Muslims only.

"The best search for Islam," the Web site states on its main page, on which the color green, known as Islam’s color is used.

 

"This is a search engine to filter inconvenient results in search engines," the Web site states. For example, a search for "alcohol" first lists results about alcohol in Islam. Meanwhile, words like "porn," or its Turkish version "porno," and the word "sex," cannot be searched for using the engine. However, "seks" the Turkish word for "sex" can be searched.

..

http://www.muslumangoogle.com/

(not working at the moment...)

source:

Respect!!!! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2201.       lessluv
1052 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 11:14 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Muslim Google hits the Web

 

ISTANBUL - A new search engine on the Internet was launched recently, but this time it is for Muslims only.

"The best search for Islam," the Web site states on its main page, on which the color green, known as Islam’s color is used.

 

"This is a search engine to filter inconvenient results in search engines," the Web site states. For example, a search for "alcohol" first lists results about alcohol in Islam. Meanwhile, words like "porn," or its Turkish version "porno," and the word "sex," cannot be searched for using the engine. However, "seks" the Turkish word for "sex" can be searched.

..

http://www.muslumangoogle.com/

(not working at the moment...)

source:

Respect!!!! {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 you have obviously tried this search..{#lang_emotions_wink}

2202.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 04:51 pm

Bin Laden urges jihad against Israel

 

CAIRO, Egypt – Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.

Bin Laden spoke in an audiotape posted Wednesday on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. It was his first tape since May and came nearly three weeks after Israel started its campaign against Gaza´s militant Hamas rulers.

The al-Qaida leader also vowed that the terror network would open "new fronts" against the United States and its allies beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. He said President-elect Barack Obama has received a "heavy inheritance" from George W. Bush — two wars and "the collapse of the economy," which he said will render the United States unable to sustain a long fight against the mujahedeen, or holy warriors.

"There is only one strong way to bring the return of Al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God," bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. "The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades."

"Islamic nation, you are capable of defeating the Zionist entity with your popular capabilities and your great hidden strength — without the support of (Arab) leaders and despite the fact that most of (the leaders) stand in the barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance," bin Laden said.

The authenticity of the tape could not be independently confirmed, but the voice resembled that of bin Laden in previous messages.

The tape, entitled "a call for jihad to stop the aggression on Gaza," was played over a still picture of bin Laden and the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem´s Old City, one of Islam´s holiest sites. But there were no English subtitles and flashy production graphics that usually accompany such messages.

That suggested the message had been hastily put together and issued to best exploit anger in the region over the Gaza offensive, which Palestinian medical officials say has killed more than 940 Palestinians, half of them civilians. Israel said the offensive aims to halt rocket fire from Gaza against Israeli towns.

Bin Laden accused Arab leaders of "avoiding their responsibility" to liberate Palestine.

"If you are not convinced to fight, then open the way to those who are convinced," he said.

Bin Laden and his lieutenants frequently use the Palestinian issue to try to rally support for al-Qaida and often call for holy war to free Jerusalem. But there has been little sign that the terror group has carried out attacks in Israel. Bin Laden made no direct reference to Hamas, which seized power in Gaza in 2007. Al-Qaida leaders have frequently criticized the Palestinian militant group for participating in elections and failing to seriously pursue jihad against Israel.

The al-Qaida leader also said the world economic crisis was a sign that the United States´ power was falling apart, boasting that "the Islamic nation´s jihad is one of the main causes of these destructive results for our enemies."

Pointing to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, bin Laden said al-Qaida was prepared to fight "for seven more years, and seven more after that, then seven more."

"We are on the way to opening new fronts," he said, urging Muslims to "join hands with the mujahedeen to continue the jihad against the enemy, to continue bleeding them on these two fronts and on the others that are open to you."

"The question is, can America continue the war against us for several more decades? The reports and signs show us otherwise," he said. He said Bush had left his successor "with a heavy inheritance," forcing Obama to choose between withdrawing from the wars or continuing.

"If he withdraws from the war, it is a military defeat. If he continues, he drowns in economic crisis," bin Laden said.

It was the first time bin Laden have spoken of Obama, though he did not mention him by name. Bin Laden´s top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri has previously spoken against Obama, warning Muslims he will not bring major change in U.S. policies.

 

2203.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 05:07 pm

Has the arab world let down the palestinians? 

www.worldhaveyoursay.wordpress.com

2204.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 05:17 pm

I think that America is really stupid for supporting Israel whatsoever! It only gives us staunch enemies and it´s not even our conflict! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

2205.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 06:39 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

I think that America is really stupid for supporting Israel whatsoever! It only gives us staunch enemies and it´s not even our conflict! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 in which america is supporting israel?

2206.       Merih
933 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 07:36 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 in which america is supporting israel?

 

 Femme, I have a question.. why do you always keep not understanding what is said... I was going through your posts.. most of them is "didn´t understand this"

2207.       Trudy
7887 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 08:59 pm

Senior Saudi Cleric OKs 10-Year-Old Girls for Marriage

 

IYADH, Saudi Arabia  —  A pan-Arab newspaper quotes Saudi Arabia´s most senior Muslim cleric as saying it is OK for 10-year-old girls to marry.

The London-based Al-Hayat newspaper also quotes Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Baz, the country´s grand mufti, as saying that those who believe women should not marry before the age of 25 are following a "bad path."

His comments during a lecture Monday come as Saudi human rights groups are fighting to put an end to marriages involving the very young. The groups are pressing the government to define the minimum age for marriage.

On Sunday, the government-run National Human Rights Commission condemned marriages of minor girls, saying such marriages are an "inhumane violation."

 

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479878,00.html

 

********

Well, that National Human Rights Commission is the first but hopefully not the last step to make ideas like this stop! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

2208.       lessluv
1052 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:08 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Senior Saudi Cleric OKs 10-Year-Old Girls for Marriage

 

IYADH, Saudi Arabia  —  A pan-Arab newspaper quotes Saudi Arabia´s most senior Muslim cleric as saying it is OK for 10-year-old girls to marry.

The London-based Al-Hayat newspaper also quotes Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Baz, the country´s grand mufti, as saying that those who believe women should not marry before the age of 25 are following a "bad path."

His comments during a lecture Monday come as Saudi human rights groups are fighting to put an end to marriages involving the very young. The groups are pressing the government to define the minimum age for marriage.

On Sunday, the government-run National Human Rights Commission condemned marriages of minor girls, saying such marriages are an "inhumane violation."

 

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479878,00.html

 

********

Well, that National Human Rights Commission is the first but hopefully not the last step to make ideas like this stop! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

 He´s just trying to legalise paedophile rings...... this man would be best utilised in euthenasia testing

2209.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:24 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 He´s just trying to legalise paedophile rings...... this man would be best utilised in euthenasia testing

 

+1

2210.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:42 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 Femme, I have a question.. why do you always keep not understanding what is said... I was going through your posts.. most of them is "didn´t understand this"

 

 i dont understand why do you ask me this question. im trying to pull out more info from those who have posted such comments. dont you see that? it is simply a gentle invitation to a talk, a little provoke. i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?

2211.       Trudy
7887 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:43 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?

 

 Harsh, femme? You? Nooooooooo...... lol

2212.       Merih
933 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:46 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i dont understand why do you ask me this question. im trying to pull out more info from those who have posted such comments. dont you see that? it is simply a gentle invitation to a talk, a little provoke. i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?

 

 luv, come on, do it... I love it when you provoke... please say didn´t understand this.

2213.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:47 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Harsh, femme? You? Nooooooooo...... lol

 

 lol ridiculous, isnt it? femme harsh? it doesnt go in one sentence as some people try to put me in a certain bag lol im the most angelic hearted fascist

2214.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:50 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 it doesnt go in one sentence as some people try to put me in a certain bag 

 

 YOU are the worst person here for putting people in bags!!! lol lol lol

You are so bed!

2215.       femmeous
2642 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:52 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 YOU are the worst person here for putting people in bags!!! lol lol lol

You are so bed!

 

 and you produce those begs!

2216.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:54 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 and you produce those begs!

 

 Yes and I found a new beg for you... the bed beg

2217.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 09:57 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

bed beg

 

 Say that 5 times fast {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2218.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Jan 2009 Wed 10:09 pm

Media Education Foundation´s free video on "Peace Propaganda and the Promised Land"

 

You can watch or download it for free!

2219.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 12:21 am

 

Hoax EU sculpture by David Cerny sparks diplomatic spat

 

A hoax artwork which was supposed to celebrate European diversity provoked a full-scale diplomatic incident between Bulgaria and the Czech Republic today.

 

The sculpture, commissioned by the Czech government to mark their EU presidency, mocked Europe’s national stereotypes, but some governments have failed to get the joke.

 

Bulgaria has taken exception to its caricature, which depicts the country as a Turkish squat toilet. The country´s ambassador wrote formal letters of complaint to the Czech EU presidency and Javier Solana, the EU foreign policy chief, today.

 

Officials have demanded that the sculpture be taken down before the exhibit’s public opening tomorrow.

 

Betina Joteva, first secretary for the Bulgarian office to the EU, said: ´I cannot accept to see a toilet on the map of my country. This is not the face of Bulgaria.´

 

The Czech government commissioned the work from David Cerny, but he claimed it would contain individual sculptures created by artists from all of the EU nations. It emerged yesterday that it was a hoax and that he had designed all of the works himself.

 

France is represented by a banner that reads “Strike!”, while Romania is an oversized Dracula theme park. Luxembourg is a tiny lump of gold with a “For Sale” sign and the Netherlands is depicted entirely submerged by water apart from minarets from the nation’s mosques. Sweden is an Ikea flat pack and Lithuania has three statues urinating on Russia.

 

Slovakia is also thought to have made a complaint about the way it has been portrayed – as a wrapped up corpse.

 

Cerny admitted yesterday that the whole thing had been a hoax, and that he had invented the names of the “up-and-coming” artists from the 27 member states.

 

There was also the question of what became of £350,000 in funding meant for the artists.

 

 

This is the news..

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5517736.ece

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00465/davidcarny_04_385x1_465423a.jpg

 

I am still laughing at this news..lol lol 

 

This is better actually:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/world/europe/15mosaic.html?ref=world

 

it says :

Mr. Cerny is notorious for thumbing his nose at the establishment. He was arrested in 1991 for painting a tank, a Soviet war memorial in a Prague square, bright pink.

 

I love this guy I must say lol

2220.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 02:19 am

Femme and Merih....getting married.  Oh my and to think I took Mer as a female...{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2221.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 03:42 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Femme and Merih....getting married.  Oh my and to think I took Mer as a female...{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Merih´s sex is not an issue.  My ordination will cover same sex marriage.  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

Want to be flower girl?  {#lang_emotions_flowers}

2222.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 06:00 am

 

Quoting femmeous

 i dont understand why do you ask me this question. im trying to pull out more info from those who have posted such comments. dont you see that? it is simply a gentle invitation to a talk, a little provoke. i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?

 

Aha....so you admit it...you are a provocateur?

 

......I suspected....

2223.       cedars
235 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 03:26 pm

The 44 places to go  in 2009 as recommended by new york times.

Beirut ranks 1st !!

Hawai 7th, Aegean sea 15th.

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/11/travel/20090111_DESTINATIONS.html

2224.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:12 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 luv, come on, do it... I love it when you provoke... please say didn´t understand this.

 

 you are a masochist

2225.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:13 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Aha....so you admit it...you are a provocateur?

 

......I suspected....

 

 im so glad for you alameda lol

2226.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 11:41 pm

G W Bush Reduced to clear

 

 George W Bush face masks are reduced to make way for new stock of Barack Obama masks at Angels Fancy Dress store on Shaftesbury Avenue..

 

 

 

The Barack Obama masks are some of the first to go on sale in the UK, just days before Mr Obama is inaugurated as the President of the USA on January 20, 2009

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

2227.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 11:47 pm

THE DA VANCI OPERATION ROBOT

Caption says:

A doctor is showing a robot called Da Vanci to make operation on January 15,2009, in Beijing, China. According to introductions, the robot could take operation for the patients to cut the tumor, gall and rectum cancer

  

 

I would rather prefer  not have that robot operating on me if I have rectum cancer

=======================

Fire Treatment

caption of the images say:

A man tries out a medicated fire treatment at a local traditional hospital and due to the wet cold weather in South of China during winter the fire treatment is popular with the local people to avoid catching a cold in Jiaxing Zhejiang Province in China

 

 

2228.       teaschip
3870 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 01:32 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 Merih´s sex is not an issue.  My ordination will cover same sex marriage.  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

Want to be flower girl?  {#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

 Sure...As long as I get to wear a pretty dress.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} 

2229.       teaschip
3870 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 03:42 am

Here is a site I tend to buy alot of things from....and ran accross this.{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  Couldn´t they have picked better models.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=sr_gallery_3&listing_id=6577234

2230.       Melek74
1506 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 04:39 am

Airline passengers wait to board a ferry to be rescued on the ...

 

US Airways plane ditches in Hudson River in NYC after hitting a flock of geese.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090116/ts_nm/us_crash_newyork2_9

2231.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 06:20 am

How a middle-class white guy came to accept the evil embedded in American political and military might.

 

A different subject re: USA - Now I Understand why they hate us, by David Hilfiker, Alter Net

 

(long, worth reading)

 

 

http://www.alternet.org/story/119065/

2232.       libralady
5152 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 08:45 am

Woooo hoooo!  You can go to work drunk in Peru and not get sacked!!! Imagine that?  

 

Actually not quite what it seems, so dont get too excited folks {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7832388.stm

2233.       cybernetics
753 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 01:03 pm

This cropcircle , found in United Kingdom, Wiltshire , Avebury Manor  (15.07.2008) area. and this is very interesting because it shows somethings to us , it shows our solar system and it shows that how the positions of the planets will be on 21 or 23 december 2012.. the date is very important because , the Mayan Calendar will be end on 22-23 december 2012 , and according to mayans, our earth will get in a new age ( new period ).. it will not be end of humanity but it will be very big change.. more info , more info

 

i like these things i think i came from VEGA {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Avebury Manor  of July 15, 2008 reminds us that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end on December 23, 2012: by showing precise orbital locations for all nine planets of our solar system on that date, plus an accurate elliptical orbit for Pluto

The 5125-year Mayan Long count calendar will end on December 22-23, 2012. Given the long period of time which it represents, all nine planets of our solar system need to be shown in order to mark its end uniquely. Such a clever astronomical diagram was shown at Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008. All nine planets appear there precisely as they will be located in space four and one-half years from now on December 23, 2012, with one exception.

Thus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawn in this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case. Yet Pluto still seems to be located correctly relative to the crossover of its highly elliptical orbit with the orbit of Neptune. Three weeks ago at Secklendorf in Germany, two different dates from the year 2012 were indicated astronomically in a crop picture, one of which (December 21, 2012) was essentially the same as that shown here (see HERE).

 

 


December 21 or 23, 2012?
 

Many people believe that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end precisely on December 21, 2012. Yet a new crop picture from Avebury Manor shows planetary positions that match more closely December 23-24 than December 21. To be specific, Venus and Mercury will lie almost directly in line with the Sun on December 21, whereas on December 23-24, Mercury will lie a little ahead of Venus as shown (see HERE).  

Since we are obtaining such new information directly "from the horse´s mouth", I thought it more advisable to report the astronomical date they are actually showing us, rather than any preconceived date of our own. For example, modern scholars remain uncertain by two full days, whether the Long Count calendar began on August 11,12 or 13, 3114 BC (see HERE or HERE).

 

Crop swirls within its central "Sun" tell us which way the planets are moving!

More info

2234.       lessluv
1052 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 01:13 pm

 

Quoting cybernetics

This cropcircle , found in United Kingdom, Wiltshire , Avebury Manor  (15.07.2008) area. and this is very interesting because it shows somethings to us , it shows our solar system and it shows that how the positions of the planets will be on 21 or 23 december 2012.. the date is very important because , the Mayan Calendar will be end on 22-23 december 2012 , and according to mayans, our earth will get in a new age ( new period ).. it will not be end of humanity but it will be very big change.. more info , more info

 

i like these things i think i came from VEGA {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Avebury Manor  of July 15, 2008 reminds us that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end on December 23, 2012: by showing precise orbital locations for all nine planets of our solar system on that date, plus an accurate elliptical orbit for Pluto

The 5125-year Mayan Long count calendar will end on December 22-23, 2012. Given the long period of time which it represents, all nine planets of our solar system need to be shown in order to mark its end uniquely. Such a clever astronomical diagram was shown at Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008. All nine planets appear there precisely as they will be located in space four and one-half years from now on December 23, 2012, with one exception.

Thus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawn in this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case. Yet Pluto still seems to be located correctly relative to the crossover of its highly elliptical orbit with the orbit of Neptune. Three weeks ago at Secklendorf in Germany, two different dates from the year 2012 were indicated astronomically in a crop picture, one of which (December 21, 2012) was essentially the same as that shown here (see HERE).

 

 


December 21 or 23, 2012?
 

Many people believe that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end precisely on December 21, 2012. Yet a new crop picture from Avebury Manor shows planetary positions that match more closely December 23-24 than December 21. To be specific, Venus and Mercury will lie almost directly in line with the Sun on December 21, whereas on December 23-24, Mercury will lie a little ahead of Venus as shown (see HERE).  

Since we are obtaining such new information directly "from the horse´s mouth", I thought it more advisable to report the astronomical date they are actually showing us, rather than any preconceived date of our own. For example, modern scholars remain uncertain by two full days, whether the Long Count calendar began on August 11,12 or 13, 3114 BC (see HERE or HERE).

 

Crop swirls within its central "Sun" tell us which way the planets are moving!

More info

 

I do find crop circles most intriguing

 

 So what is it predicting.....the return of "our makers"?????{#lang_emotions_rolleyes} 

 

The end of the winter olympics?

 

 

 

2235.       cybernetics
753 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 01:21 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

I do find crop circles most intriguing

 

 So what is it predicting.....the return of "our makers"?????{#lang_emotions_rolleyes} 

 

The end of the winter olympics?

 

  , who knows? maybe... i dont know what will happen on 23 dec 2012 , i told you who knows or who can be sure?  just interesting

2236.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 05:13 pm

2237.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 06:32 pm

Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites?  I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while

 

EDIT:  Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa... {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

2238.       teaschip
3870 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 06:44 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites?  I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while

 

EDIT:  Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa... {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

 Wow...I´m agreeing with you.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  I´m too tired to discuss these topics...you people have exhausted me.

2239.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 07:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites?  I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while

 

EDIT:  Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa... {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

 Kidney stones? been studying about them as my cat has them....found out there are a lot of different kinds...there are calcium, uric acid, struvite and cystine. They can be caused by an inbalance of minerals in the diet...among other things...all which points to the importance to a good healthy, balanced and nutritious diet....

2240.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 07:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites?  I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while

 

EDIT:  Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa... {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

 go, roswitha, go

2241.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 07:44 pm

Nine year old Alec Grevens book How to Talk to Girls

is to be published on Valentines Day by Harper Collins Children´s Books in the UK. The New York Times Bestseller written by the schoolboy offers readers dating advice that was originally penned for a school project. Thee book created a media sensation in the US when it was published there in November 2008 and spent five weeks on the NYT Bestseller list. Greven lives in Castle Rock, Colorado, with his family and his book gives straight-talking advice to boys of all ages on how to get a girl to like one, based on observations from his school playground. The tips include: "If you like a girl, comb your hair. You don´t have to try too hard, but just try to look kind of clean." "Whatever happens, just don´t act desperate. Girls don´t like desperate boys." "You have to get over a crush if it doesn´t work out. A crush is like a love disease. It can drive you mad."

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03727/03727295.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03727/03727296.jpg

 

I am refusing to read this book!!!

 

2242.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 07:49 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Nine year old Alec Grevens book How to Talk to Girls

is to be published on Valentines Day by Harper Collins Children´s Books in the UK. The New York Times Bestseller written by the schoolboy offers readers dating advice that was originally penned for a school project. Thee book created a media sensation in the US when it was published there in November 2008 and spent five weeks on the NYT Bestseller list. Greven lives in Castle Rock, Colorado, with his family and his book gives straight-talking advice to boys of all ages on how to get a girl to like one, based on observations from his school playground. The tips include: "If you like a girl, comb your hair. You don´t have to try too hard, but just try to look kind of clean." "Whatever happens, just don´t act desperate. Girls don´t like desperate boys." "You have to get over a crush if it doesn´t work out. A crush is like a love disease. It can drive you mad."

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03727/03727295.jpg   http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/thumbs/03727/03727296.jpg

 

I am refusing to read this book!!!

 

 This is really forreallove.....he is a 32 year old Turk from Istanbul....don´t be fooled by the picture!

2243.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 08:12 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 This is really forreallove.....he is a 32 year old Turk from Istanbul....don´t be fooled by the picture!

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2244.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 09:55 pm

What´s wrong with that post by Turk123 redirecting browser to the site with online petition. I don´t like it, mods should delete it. I think it´s enough if he gives a link

2245.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:01 pm

The ones i managed to open are at art forum,so i made note about them so admin can delete them and find out what´s going on and stop it too

Ý agree its irritating !

2246.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:05 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

What´s wrong with that post by Turk123 redirecting browser to the site with online petition. I don´t like it, mods should delete it. I think it´s enough if he gives a link

 

 i donno it comes back to our forum

2247.       armegon
1872 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:29 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i donno it comes back to our forum

 

Yep, interesting ,  possibly he should be using some security holes of php to redirect the page ...

2248.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:34 pm

 

Quoting armegon

Yep, interesting ,  possibly he should be using some security holes of php to redirect the page ...

 

 but how did DD manage to post anything in that thread?

2249.       armegon
1872 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:42 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 but how did DD manage to post anything in that thread?

 

Dont you mean "i have this poem" thread? I havent seen DD´s post there{#lang_emotions_unsure}

2250.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:44 pm

 

Quoting armegon

Dont you mean "i have this poem" thread? I havent seen DD´s post there{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 no, the thread was titled "alert/error".

im confused now

 

2251.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:47 pm

DD was the one who opened the thread

But i didnt manage to open it,it was redirecting me to the forum page again !

Ý guess admin fixed some things around

2252.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:47 pm

 

Quoting armegon

Dont you mean "i have this poem" thread? I havent seen DD´s post there{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 nevermind, its not there anymore

2253.       armegon
1872 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:51 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

DD was the one who opened the thread

But i didnt manage to open it,it was redirecting me to the forum page again !

Ý guess admin fixed some things around

 

Maybe he was playing some kind of game with the holes of BB code ...

2254.       CANLI
5084 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 10:54 pm

Anyone can do that ? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

2255.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 11:10 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 but how did DD manage to post anything in that thread?

 

possibly the hacker hacked into her account.

2256.       femmeous
2642 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 11:51 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

possibly the hacker hacked into her account.

 

 shes back and alive

 

2257.       femmeous
2642 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 12:01 am

qdemir is back

2258.       femmeous
2642 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 12:17 am

ISNA IN AMERIKA!!!

2259.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 03:31 am

 

 

 

 

from Haaretz

 

Indonesian Muslims holding placards reading, ´Wipe Israel off the World Map,´ during a protest against the Gaza offensive on Friday. (AP)

2260.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 03:36 am

 

 

 

 

Indonesian Muslims holding placards reading, ´Wipe Israel off the World Map,´ during a protest against the Gaza offensive on Friday

 

Indonesian Muslims holding placards reading, ´Wipe Israel off the World Map,´ during a protest against the Gaza offensive on Friday. (AP)

2261.       teaschip
3870 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 05:43 am

Seems like I missed all the action today.  Apparently, I had this happen to me here some time ago..it get´s even better they also managed to hack into my yahoo account.  I went to log in one day and saw that I was already logged in......{#lang_emotions_scared}

2262.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 12:32 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Seems like I missed all the action today.  Apparently, I had this happen to me here some time ago..it get´s even better they also managed to hack into my yahoo account.  I went to log in one day and saw that I was already logged in......{#lang_emotions_scared}

 

Did you manage to hold an interesting convrsation with yourself then? lol

2263.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Jan 2009 Sat 01:38 pm

Pakistan: Taliban forces closure of girls´ schools in north

Mingora, 16 Jan. (AKI) - Around 400 private girls´ schools in Pakistan´s restive northwestern Swat district have closed to comply with a Taliban deadline which expired on Thursday. Some parents have even begun moving to other parts of the country where their girls can attend school, Pakistan´s Geo News reported on Friday.

The closure of the private schools will deprive more than 40,000 students of their basic right to education. In addition, 84,248 girls students in state-run schools are unlikely to attend class because of fear of attacks by militants.

Private school owners in Swat say the schools will not reopen until the unrest in the picturesque valley ends or the Taliban revokes the ban.

School owners in Mingora, Swat´s central administrative district, say that even if they kept the schools open, parents would be unlikely to send their children there.

There are over 350 privately-owned schools in Swat, each with separate sections for boys and girls, according to data available from a local association of schools.

Over the past year, the Taliban has ordered most of the schools to close and destroyed nearly 150 schools.

Pakistani daily The News reported that following appeals to the Taliban, it has softened its stance, allowing girls to attain education up to the fourth grade.

However, local militant leader Maulana Fazlullah has renewed the Taliban´s threat to bomb educational institutions including 20 colleges, if any school continues to provide secondary education for the girls.

The Taliban´s central spokesman, Maulvi Omar, has distanced his movement from Taliban militants in Swat over their ban on girls´ schooling and urged Fazullah to withdraw the ban, The News reported.

Private schools also urged to the militants to withdraw the ultimatum in the interests of hundreds of female teachers, most of them lone breadwinners, as well as those of many thousands of female students affected by the ban.

Source: http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.2916153484

 

********

When I read things like this I wonder what people think: should the world interfere because of rights of girls or is it just none of ´our´ business? Is it correct that western countries try to change or do ´they´ have the right of their own decisions? I know my answer...

2264.       libralady
5152 posts
 18 Jan 2009 Sun 03:17 pm

There are no less than 5 threads about the Israeli / Gaza conflict.

 

Just a statement!

2265.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 18 Jan 2009 Sun 07:14 pm

Drawings by TC member "silence".  What a talent.

2266.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 18 Jan 2009 Sun 07:20 pm

femme is out of control{#lang_emotions_scared}

2267.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 18 Jan 2009 Sun 08:05 pm

 

Quoting libralady

There are no less than 5 threads about the Israeli / Gaza conflict.

 

Just a statement!

 

you don´t say...I think all those threads should be put inyto one so that this forum is not littered like it is now Even Femme has to post one and the same thing in all Gaza topics. Lret´s have just one for Ros to paste news...

2268.       femmeous
2642 posts
 18 Jan 2009 Sun 08:19 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 Lret´s have just one for Ros to paste news...

 

i have an idea to make a whole section for roswitha´s activities.

 

2269.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Jan 2009 Sun 08:53 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

you don´t say...I think all those threads should be put inyto one so that this forum is not littered like it is now Even Femme has to post one and the same thing in all Gaza topics. Lret´s have just one for Ros to paste news...

 

Some forums do that when threads about one topig get scattered all over. I really wish people would just post a paragraph or two and a link to the rest, instead of the whole article.

2270.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 12:20 am

 

Quoting femmeous

i have an idea to make a whole section for roswitha´s activities.

 

 i reapeat my suggestion in case nobody took it serious.

2271.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 02:07 am

 

Quoting alameda

Some forums do that when threads about one topig get scattered all over. I really wish people would just post a paragraph or two and a link to the rest, instead of the whole article.

 

exactly

+100000000000000

2272.       lady in red
6947 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 11:37 am

 

Quoting alameda

Some forums do that when threads about one topig get scattered all over. I really wish people would just post a paragraph or two and a link to the rest, instead of the whole article.

 

Quoting Daydreamer

exactly

+100000000000000

 

 It´s not like we don´t ask them time and time again - {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

2273.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 02:26 pm

Iraqi shoe thrower to seek Swiss asylum: lawyer

GENEVA (AP) — A Swiss lawyer working on behalf of the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday his client will seek political asylum in Switzerland.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOE4dE7uVORfakOB9pl5geqqp1YgD95Q5KAG0

 

they all want to live in the evil west.

2274.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 02:32 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Iraqi shoe thrower to seek Swiss asylum: lawyer

GENEVA (AP) — A Swiss lawyer working on behalf of the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday his client will seek political asylum in Switzerland.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOE4dE7uVORfakOB9pl5geqqp1YgD95Q5KAG0

 

they all want to live in the evil west.

 

Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice!  I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught.   If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them.  Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????

2275.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 02:33 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Iraqi shoe thrower to seek Swiss asylum: lawyer

GENEVA (AP) — A Swiss lawyer working on behalf of the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday his client will seek political asylum in Switzerland.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOE4dE7uVORfakOB9pl5geqqp1YgD95Q5KAG0

 

they all want to live in the evil west.

 

Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice!  I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught.   If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them.  Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????

2276.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 02:52 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice!  I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught.   If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them.  Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????

 

 in order to obtain a political assylum you dont have to necessarily reach the borders of a certain country. you simply go to the embassy of that country. many political assylum seekers were offered places to live at the embassies.

 

i cant afford a swiss solicitor, but he can. hes now a well-known political figure. if i were a lawyer i too would want to represent him. why? hes a good source of money. soon in the future he may write a book or [script] to a movie.

2277.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 03:24 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice!  I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught.   If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them.  Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????

 

He can sell those shoes!!

2278.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 06:46 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Iraqi shoe thrower to seek Swiss asylum: lawyer

 

they all want to live in the evil west.

lol

What can I say, pocket speaks louder than heart lol

2279.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:01 pm

A Panda called "Dudu" {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

Giant panda Dudu plays at Zhengzhou Zoo in Zhengzhou, capital of central China´s Henan Provnice, Jan. 17, 2009. The 18-year-old Dudu seems far more popular due to her child "Yuan Yuan" which has been donated to Taiwan along with the other giant panda "Tuan Tuan".

 

   

 

You dudu!!!!!!..lol

2280.       geniuda
1070 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:04 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

A Panda called "Dudu" {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

Giant panda Dudu plays at Zhengzhou Zoo in Zhengzhou, capital of central China´s Henan Provnice, Jan. 17, 2009. The 18-year-old Dudu seems far more popular due to her child "Yuan Yuan" which has been donated to Taiwan along with the other giant panda "Tuan Tuan".

 

   

 

You dudu!!!!!!..lol

 

 Did they name this poor panda DUDU after you?

2281.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:04 pm

Madonna´s naked photo is on auction

A nude photo of Madonna, taken before erotic songs and risque costumes catapulted her to superstardom, is expected to sell for at least $10,000, Christie´s auction house says.

The raw, full frontal black-and-white image, taken by Lee Friedlander, appeared in Playboy in 1985 and is to be auctioned Feb. 12. Madonna was a 20-year-old dancer trying to make ends meet when she answered Friedlander´s newspaper ad seeking a nude model, said Matthieu Humery, head of Christie´s photography department.

 

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nymado1017,0,4458842.story

 

 

And I have seen the picture..

2282.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:06 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

 Did they name this poor panda DUDU after you?

 

Why do you call him ´poor panda´ Geniuda?

He seems quite happy to me..lol

Look, he is even flirting with a girl ..

 

Giant panda at Zhengzhou Zoo

 

2283.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:07 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

lol

What can I say, pocket speaks louder than heart lol

 

 no, i would rather put it this way: the shoes are louder than a pocket lol

2284.       femmeous
2642 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:09 pm

hairy and his obsessions with pandas

2285.       geniuda
1070 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:10 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Why do you call him ´poor panda´ Geniuda?

 

 

because It was not his choice to be named Dudu...

 

thehandsom, dear....are you sure you dont work at the Zoo?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

2286.       geniuda
1070 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:11 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

hairy and his obsessions with pandas

 

I am sure there must be a relation between "hairies" and "pandas" {#lang_emotions_unsure}

2287.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 10:42 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

I am sure there must be a relation between "hairies" and "pandas" {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Perhaps we shouldn´t shake handsoms family tree to hard....we don´t know what will fall out!  Before you know it, he will be claiming that Pandas are really from Turkey and that the Chinese stole them from Anatolia!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2288.       lessluv
1052 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 11:13 pm

http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=12981022&ocid=today

 

A woman became so sick of her constantly malfunctioning washing machine that she took drastic action and held the repair man hostage

She barricaded herself against the door and refused to let the Currys engineer out of her home.

The engineer believed he had found the root of the problem when the extricated a two pence coin from the machine.

But when he started to pack up his equipment, Mrs Fox insisted he take a more thorough look. She told the repair man he could not leave and blocked his exit by sitting in front of her back door.

{#lang_emotions_lol} heh heh...... been tempted more than once....every time they go fo a part they never come back!!!

2289.       libralady
5152 posts
 19 Jan 2009 Mon 11:26 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Madonna´s naked photo is on auction

A nude photo of Madonna, taken before erotic songs and risque costumes catapulted her to superstardom, is expected to sell for at least $10,000, Christie´s auction house says.

The raw, full frontal black-and-white image, taken by Lee Friedlander, appeared in Playboy in 1985 and is to be auctioned Feb. 12. Madonna was a 20-year-old dancer trying to make ends meet when she answered Friedlander´s newspaper ad seeking a nude model, said Matthieu Humery, head of Christie´s photography department.

 

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nymado1017,0,4458842.story

 

 

And I have seen the picture..

 

 How impressive (not!!) {#lang_emotions_lol} 

2290.       lessluv
1052 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 11:54 am

I think this article would be interesting reading {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7833707.stm

 

People who are more laid back are less likely to develop dementia in old age, a study has suggested.

Research published in the journal Neurology asked 500 healthy elderly people to fill out questionnaires about their personalities.

Those who were calm and relaxed had a 50% lower risk of developing dementia during the six years of the study

2291.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 12:17 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

I think this article would be interesting reading {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7833707.stm

 

People who are more laid back are less likely to develop dementia in old age, a study has suggested.

Research published in the journal Neurology asked 500 healthy elderly people to fill out questionnaires about their personalities.

Those who were calm and relaxed had a 50% lower risk of developing dementia during the six years of the study

 

Well all TC members should be ok then.  No sign of any neurotic, stressed out people on THIS site!  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

2292.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 12:19 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Well all TC members should be ok then.  No sign of any neurotic, stressed out people on THIS site!  {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 +1 very true.

it is just the translation section that brings too much stress from neurotic lovers.

2293.       lessluv
1052 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 12:49 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 +1 very true.

it is just the translation section that brings too much stress from neurotic lovers.

 

 ha ha ....especially the URGENT ones

2294.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 02:10 pm

an article about how al aqsa tv aired 6 mins of porn at 3.00am. lol

2295.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 02:13 pm

UN Ambulance Picking up Freedom Fighters in the Gaza Strip

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf75baf763

 

UN is always handy...

2296.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 05:03 pm

Turkish woman living in cave who collects hair...OMG I was watching a program last night that talked about a woman living in Turkey who collects hair.  She has thousands of pieces of hair stapled to paper with peoples names of who she collected hanging in a cave.....Has anyone heard about this?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2297.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 05:05 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Turkish woman living in cave who collects hair...OMG I was watching a program last night that talked about a woman living in Turkey who collects hair.  She has thousands of pieces of hair stapled to paper with peoples names of who she collected hanging in a cave.....Has anyone heard about this?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 I am sure that handsom avoids this cave like the plague!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 

2298.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 06:03 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

Turkish woman living in cave who collects hair...OMG I was watching a program last night that talked about a woman living in Turkey who collects hair.  She has thousands of pieces of hair stapled to paper with peoples names of who she collected hanging in a cave.....Has anyone heard about this?{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 I found this about it:

 

July 20--Pots, Hair and Paranoia
 
We pack up and cycle to the town of Avanos, which is famous for it´s pottery.  We visit numerous pottery shops, all with ancient underground rooms and chambers filled with jars, urns, bowls, plates and sculptures for sale, many exquisitly glazed with bright colors and elaborately detailed patterns.
 
One shop even has a hair museum.  About 20 years ago a French woman came for the summer to learn pottery making at the shop.  When she left she cut a small lock of hair and stuck it to a wall with her name on a card "so the owner would always remember her."  A week later another foreign woman saw the hair, asked what it was, and decided to cut her own lock of hair and left it with her name tag.  So started the hair museum cave.  The last time anyone counted, in 1996, there were 16,000 locks of hair.  Today the museum occupies three underground chambers, the walls and ceiling covered with fuzzy whisps of hair hanging like tendrils from yellowing papers listing names of women around the world.  Each year the owner picks one name and the "winner" gets a week long all expenses paid vacation to Cappadocia.  It is fascinating yet creepy, and yes, Tass leaves a small lock of hair.

Source

She can have a piece of my hair in exchange for the chance of a free holiday!!


 

2299.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 08:11 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 I found this about it:

 

July 20--Pots, Hair and Paranoia
 
We pack up and cycle to the town of Avanos, which is famous for it´s pottery.  We visit numerous pottery shops, all with ancient underground rooms and chambers filled with jars, urns, bowls, plates and sculptures for sale, many exquisitly glazed with bright colors and elaborately detailed patterns.
 
One shop even has a hair museum.  About 20 years ago a French woman came for the summer to learn pottery making at the shop.  When she left she cut a small lock of hair and stuck it to a wall with her name on a card "so the owner would always remember her."  A week later another foreign woman saw the hair, asked what it was, and decided to cut her own lock of hair and left it with her name tag.  So started the hair museum cave.  The last time anyone counted, in 1996, there were 16,000 locks of hair.  Today the museum occupies three underground chambers, the walls and ceiling covered with fuzzy whisps of hair hanging like tendrils from yellowing papers listing names of women around the world.  Each year the owner picks one name and the "winner" gets a week long all expenses paid vacation to Cappadocia.  It is fascinating yet creepy, and yes, Tass leaves a small lock of hair.

Source

She can have a piece of my hair in exchange for the chance of a free holiday!!


 

 

You found it...I have searched all over for this.  Apparently, they said the woman loves the smell of hair...{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

2300.       teaschip
3870 posts
 20 Jan 2009 Tue 09:36 pm

Having to deliver the news to all colleagues that all increases for this year are frozen, based on the economy.. {#lang_emotions_sad}Could be worse I could be telling them they don´t have a job.{#lang_emotions_confused}

2301.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 02:36 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Having to deliver the news to all colleagues that all increases for this year are frozen, based on the economy.. {#lang_emotions_sad}Could be worse I could be telling them they don´t have a job.{#lang_emotions_confused}

 

Ouh sorry teas, that´s a tough one but you are right....there could be worse news to deliver.  {#lang_emotions_flowers}

2302.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 10:25 am

 

Photos of the elusive LIR and her son......I hope you finally located your husband!!

 

 

Looks like you have that cell out....checking in on TC...ready to delete posts at a moments notice!!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2303.       femmeous
2642 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 11:21 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Photos of the elusive LIR and her son......I hope you finally located your husband!!

 

 

Looks like you have that cell out....checking in on TC...ready to delete posts at a moments notice!!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 i didnt see them. all i saw was a camel fight and ...

locate husband?

why dont i know this things?

2304.       lady in red
6947 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 04:55 pm

Having consolidated his lead on the most active users list........bod´s gone very quiet!

2305.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 05:13 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

Having consolidated his lead on the most active users list........bod´s gone very quiet!

 

but that´s so Bod lol he´s gone every now and then to come back a few weeks later with double posting power lol

2306.       lessluv
1052 posts
 21 Jan 2009 Wed 05:21 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

but that´s so Bod lol he´s gone every now and then to come back a few weeks later with double posting power lol

 

 {#lang_emotions_scared}

2307.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 05:09 am

oh, this caught my eye today

 

2308.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 11:09 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

oh, this caught my eye today

 

 

What´s it about?  No explanation?

 

2309.       libralady
5152 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 02:00 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

oh, this caught my eye today

 

 

Could this be the "best horn" competition (in the Scottish Highlands {#lang_emotions_lol}  ??

 

2310.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 02:06 pm

 

Quoting libralady

Could this be the "best horn" competition (in the Scottish Highlands {#lang_emotions_lol}  ??

 

 lol lol lol - I like it!

2311.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 02:07 pm

......and I think the woman in the pink dress in the middle should win!!

2312.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 03:25 pm

Here lady in red and Bridget:

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Order-cuckoldry-ca1815-French-satire.jpg

2313.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 05:29 pm

 

 

 Ah - so its a French satire on cuckoldry!

 

 

{#lang_emotions_unsure}

2314.       libralady
5152 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 05:56 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Ah - so its a French satire on cuckoldry!

 

 

{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Yeh, well I already knew that!  I was just joking on the Scottish Highland thing!!! btw French has always been a bit strange {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  And the way that women is grabbing those horns.........

2315.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 06:47 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 Ah - so its a French satire on cuckoldry!

 

 

{#lang_emotions_unsure}

Quoting libralady

 Yeh, well I already knew that!  I was just joking on the Scottish Highland thing!!! btw French has always been a bit strange {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  And the way that women is grabbing those horns.........

 

Well so did I as I read the link to the picture when Ros posted it and also read the explanation here (which she didn´t post!)  I thought I was being sarcastic - damn ...must be losing my touch {#lang_emotions_sad}  lollol

2316.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 06:52 pm

A Muslim cleric in Australia who said men have a right to force their wives to have sex has been told to apologise by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

The cleric, Samir Abu Hamza, reportedly questioned how rape can exist within marriage, and encouraged "light beating" of disobedient women. 

 

Read the article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7843909.stm

 

**********

In marriage there is no rape? For heavens sake, from what century does this man come? Stone Age? {#lang_emotions_head_bang} {#lang_emotions_puking}

2317.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 07:00 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

A Muslim cleric in Australia who said men have a right to force their wives to have sex has been told to apologise by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

The cleric, Samir Abu Hamza, reportedly questioned how rape can exist within marriage, and encouraged "light beating" of disobedient women. 

 

Read the article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7843909.stm

 

**********

In marriage there is no rape? For heavens sake, from what century does this man come? Stone Age? {#lang_emotions_head_bang} {#lang_emotions_puking}

 

 I applaud the PM for standing up to this "self taught" cleric.  I hope this charlatan hasn´t influenced too many young people!

2318.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Jan 2009 Thu 08:15 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 I applaud the PM for standing up to this "self taught" cleric.  I hope this charlatan hasn´t influenced too many young people!

 

 No more reactions? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

2319.       lessluv
1052 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 12:12 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 No more reactions? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 heh heh I heard a "light beating" in some situations is enjoyable.....{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 

No only joking....very serious matter and it is still major problem in some groups that think this is acceptable behaviour from the men .....and that the woman do not have a voice to prevent it happening...... I know that London heathcare trusts are working closely with police to prevent this happening....especially to pregnant woman which is becoming more and more common{#lang_emotions_confused}

2320.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 12:31 am

On biding farewell to Bush

By Farouk Gueida

Depart in the company of disgrace:

The blood of a peaceful people on your hands

Will always haunt your sight.

All the young ones lost

In Baghdad´s seas of blood

Will remain like a tattoo of disgrace on your forehead

That you can never erase.

In Gaza and Galilee all the tombstones

Are loaded with explosive rage,

Cursing your ancestors.

What remains of the multitude of death

In Baghdad, I ask.

Nothing for you remains

Apart from a miserable end

Among the ruins.

As destruction envelopes Gaza,

Black nights are your only witness.

Depart, then, in the company of disgrace,

With no one regretting your departure.

***

Depart in the company of disgrace:

Look at the silence of the mosques,

And the pleading from the pulpits to the high heavens,

With the ghosts of destruction surrounding them.

Look at Baghdad mourning its people

With death moving from house to house.

Now you are departing from Baghdad,

Leaving your dead soldiers behind

In disgrace -- and what disgrace.

Apologising will not do now;

Apologies will not do.

To whom should you apologise?

To the land, to the roads?

To the living, to the dead?

To ancient cities, or to those that are still young?

To whom should you apologise?

To historical processions, or to all the sad lands,

To the shores, or to the wasteland?

[...]

Depart in the company of disgrace,

With your ugly face,

A face engraved

On tombstones,

And on those who inhabit graves,

On Gaza´s remains.

Destruction is a black vessel,

Blasting its way across crossroads and bridges.

Look at the children wavering

In the tumultuous dark nights,

A deep rage on their faces

Like a seething volcano.

Your ugly face is marked out

Because of the evil you wrought with your fake witnesses.

Nothing remains of Baghdad,

But bullets in corpses in the streets,

The shadow of death roaming the streets,

The sadness of the mosques, and the pleading of the pulpits,

Bemoaning the dumbness of prayers

In a time of heresy and debauchery.

***

Depart in the company of disgrace:

It is futile now

To hope for conscience to awake,

Or to show some public regret.

Your hands are soaked in rivers of blood.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/930/cu2.htm

2321.       lessluv
1052 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 01:03 am

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/01/22/acid.attacks/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

By Atia Abawi
CNN
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KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Shivering in pain and calling for her mother, Shamsia´s hands shake uncontrollably, her eyes swollen shut and her skin peeling from terrible acid burns.

Shamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.

Shamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.

The 19-year-old was heading to school along with her 16-year-old sister, Atifa, in Kandahar, Afghanistan. It was a warm November morning last year and their only anxiety was being late for class.

"We saw two men up ahead staring at us. One was standing off and the other one was on their motorcycle. I wanted to go but there was a black object in his hand and he took it out," Atifa says.

The girls thought it was a water pistol.

"He grabbed my arm and asked, ´Will you be going to school anymore?´ He then threw acid on my sister and threw acid on me," Shamsia says.

 

It´s not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls´ schools and female teachers, but even they condemned this attack.

 

 

 

 

Educated women must be seen as a major threat to attract this sort of violence....... despicable

2322.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 02:20 am

Forget about crawling. A spider discovered in the Sahara Desert moves by doing a series of hand springs across the sand -- and travels surprisingly fast. Bionics experts think the method could be used for future Mars explorer vehicles.

 

There is a video of spider on the page. Not youtube.

2323.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:32 am

 

Quoting alameda

Forget about crawling. A spider discovered in the Sahara Desert moves by doing a series of hand springs across the sand -- and travels surprisingly fast. Bionics experts think the method could be used for future Mars explorer vehicles.

 

There is a video of spider on the page. Not youtube.

 

 Ummmm.......eeewwwwwwwwwwwww {#lang_emotions_scared}

2324.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 06:47 pm

 and nobody cares for them.

brainless tami wants american and british troops to withdraw so that these girls could be handed over to taliban rapists. does he realize that afghanistan is a hell? i guess he doesnt. all he cares is to tease tc ladies. to spew hatred on the west (without which he wouldnt be doing what he is doing).

 

why dont islamic leaders (who dont rest in propaganda about how peaceful, wonderful and beautiful the islam is) never issue fatwa on osama ben laden or other terrorists but instead they issue fatwas on people like salman rushdie or ayan hirsi?

is it because osama and other terrorists fullfil mohammeds commandments?

 

Quoting lessluv

 
 

It´s not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls´ schools and female teachers, but even they condemned this attack. 

 

Educated women must be seen as a major threat to attract this sort of violence....... despicable

 

 

2325.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 06:50 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/01/22/acid.attacks/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

By Atia Abawi
CNN
Decrease font Decrease font
Enlarge font Enlarge font

KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Shivering in pain and calling for her mother, Shamsia´s hands shake uncontrollably, her eyes swollen shut and her skin peeling from terrible acid burns.

Shamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.

Shamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.

The 19-year-old was heading to school along with her 16-year-old sister, Atifa, in Kandahar, Afghanistan. It was a warm November morning last year and their only anxiety was being late for class.

"We saw two men up ahead staring at us. One was standing off and the other one was on their motorcycle. I wanted to go but there was a black object in his hand and he took it out," Atifa says.

The girls thought it was a water pistol.

"He grabbed my arm and asked, ´Will you be going to school anymore?´ He then threw acid on my sister and threw acid on me," Shamsia says.

 

It´s not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls´ schools and female teachers, but even they condemned this attack.

 

 

 

 

Educated women must be seen as a major threat to attract this sort of violence....... despicable

 

 According to their belief Allah will punish them if they did something wrong (and I refuse to believe it isn´t wrong!). I can´t wait for that moment to come asap!!

2326.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 07:02 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 According to their belief Allah will punish them if they did something wrong (and I refuse to believe it isn´t wrong!). I can´t wait for that moment to come asap!!

 

 you have no idea what you ve written, trudy. yes they (females) will be punished by allah and will be sent to hell. because according to allah women are less intelligent therefore they dont need to be educated. do you think talibs dont know what they are doing? they are confident they are doing the correct thing - because they are the real muslims living according to the 7th century culture and practising islam in a pure way, except the kinds of weapon they use now (made by evil kafirs) and the acid.

2327.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 07:09 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 you have no idea what you ve written, trudy. yes they (females) will be punished by allah and will be sent to hell. because according to allah women are less intelligent therefore they dont need to be educated. do you think talibs dont know what they are doing? they are confident they are doing the correct thing - because they are the real muslims living according to the 7th century culture and practising islam in a pure way, except the kinds of weapon they use now (made by evil kafirs) and the acid.

 

 Sorry femme, if I was not very well understandable (good excuse: English is not my native language   ), but of course I meant with ´they´ not these girls/women but those morons who used acid. I feel the urge to go back to medieval punihments like beheading, quarter, wheeling etc. Would these guys understand that?

2328.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 07:37 pm

A Queen´s Guardsman was caught on camera losing his cool after being mocked by a tourist.


The soldier snapped after Colombian student Nick Ibarra marched up and down alongside him outside St James´s Palace, laughing.

...

Guards outside Royal palaces are supposed to ignore all distractions and stay at their posts unless there is a threat to a member of the Royal family.

...

 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090123/tuk-bearskin-with-a-sore-head-dba1618.html

2329.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 07:53 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

A Queen´s Guardsman was caught on camera losing his cool after being mocked by a tourist.


The soldier snapped after Colombian student Nick Ibarra marched up and down alongside him outside St James´s Palace, laughing.

...

Guards outside Royal palaces are supposed to ignore all distractions and stay at their posts unless there is a threat to a member of the Royal family.

...

 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090123/tuk-bearskin-with-a-sore-head-dba1618.html

 

 Could have been worse he could have used his rifle on him..  It reminds me of our American baseball teams.  When the fans get frustrated at times they tend to throw things at the players.  The players are not permitted to throw anything back, but on a occassion they do and they suffer a hefty fine.  I actually don´t blame the players....

2330.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 09:02 pm

 your english is as bed as mine.

Quoting Trudy

 Sorry femme, if I was not very well understandable (good excuse: English is not my native language   ), but of course I meant with ´they´ not these girls/women but those morons who used acid. I feel the urge to go back to medieval punihments like beheading, quarter, wheeling etc. Would these guys understand that?

 

 

2331.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 09:51 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 your english is as bed as mine.

 

 Shall we be ashamed together? lol {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

2332.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:07 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Shall we be ashamed together? lol {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

 

 

2333.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:26 pm

The Keys to a Successful Marriage

 

Islamic cleric advises worshippers to rape and beat wives

..

Self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza, who runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia in Melbourne, advised a male audience in Sydney in 2003 that they could force their wives to have sex and beat them if they were "disobedient".

In a lecture titled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", which has since been posted on the internet and viewed thousands of times, Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, "to shape them up", but should try not to draw blood or bruise them.

He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage.

"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn´t got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape," Mr Hamza said.

"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?" ....

In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners "don´t hit your wife".

But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.

He says it is permissible to hit women as a "last resort" but that "the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth".

"You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.

"You don´t go and grab a broomstick and say that is what Allah has said."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new..at-wives.html

 

Well at least ´no broomstick´ is allowed .. lol

2334.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:30 pm

 

 

All women should have this pillow.. On the front "tonight" on the back "not tonight". Then you don´t even have to argue.....

2335.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:34 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The Keys to a Successful Marriage

 

Islamic cleric advises worshippers to rape and beat wives

..

Self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza, who runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia in Melbourne, advised a male audience in Sydney in 2003 that they could force their wives to have sex and beat them if they were "disobedient".

In a lecture titled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", which has since been posted on the internet and viewed thousands of times, Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, "to shape them up", but should try not to draw blood or bruise them.

He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage.

"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn´t got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape," Mr Hamza said.

"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?" ....

In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners "don´t hit your wife".

But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.

He says it is permissible to hit women as a "last resort" but that "the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth".

"You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.

"You don´t go and grab a broomstick and say that is what Allah has said."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new..at-wives.html

 

Well at least ´no broomstick´ is allowed .. lol

 

 This is sick....why don´t they shut that place down.  Toothbrushes?{#lang_emotions_noway}

2336.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:35 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The Keys to a Successful Marriage

 

Islamic cleric advises worshippers to rape and beat wives

 

 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_27720_232 lol

2337.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:35 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

All women should have this pillow.. On the front "tonight" on the back "not tonight". Then you don´t even have to argue.....

 

I think you did not read the above article Teas..

"He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage."

I can see that "a new design with both sides ´tonight´" might go quite well and advisable in some places!!

lol lol

2338.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:36 pm

 

 

{#lang_emotions_shy}

2339.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:40 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

{#lang_emotions_shy}

 

 It suits you.... lol lol

2340.       lessluv
1052 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:41 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

The Keys to a Successful Marriage

 

Islamic cleric advises worshippers to rape and beat wives

 

 

 

2341.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:45 pm

Marnie Pearce, 40, had her jail sentence reduced from six to three months by Dubai´s Appeal Court, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said.

She was also ordered to pay a fine of 3,000 dirhams and will be deported.

Ms Pearce, originally from Bracknell, Berkshire, was found guilty of adultery by a Dubai court in November after being accused of cheating on her Egyptian ex-husband.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/dubai/4314119/British-mother-faces-jail-for-adultery-in-Dubai-after-losing-appeal.html

2342.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 10:54 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Marnie Pearce, 40, had her jail sentence reduced from six to three months by Dubai´s Appeal Court, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said.

She was also ordered to pay a fine of 3,000 dirhams and will be deported.

Ms Pearce, originally from Bracknell, Berkshire, was found guilty of adultery by a Dubai court in November after being accused of cheating on her Egyptian ex-husband.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/dubai/4314119/British-mother-faces-jail-for-adultery-in-Dubai-after-losing-appeal.html

 

 How can they accuse her, when it is her ex-husband? {#lang_emotions_wtf} Their marriage broke up before the trial, wasn´t it?

2343.       lessluv
1052 posts
 23 Jan 2009 Fri 11:03 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 How can they accuse her, when it is her ex-husband? {#lang_emotions_wtf} Their marriage broke up before the trial, wasn´t it?

 

 yes but the complaint was about when they were married..... it seems to me this was  enforcing a way to get custody of the children....with her out of the way and now with a criminal record she has less strength in her fight ..{#lang_emotions_rant}

2344.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Jan 2009 Sat 01:07 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 yes but the complaint was about when they were married..... it seems to me this was  enforcing a way to get custody of the children....with her out of the way and now with a criminal record she has less strength in her fight ..{#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 Unfortunately it is a risk that women take when marrying into a culture such as this, where men have the most rights.  Love is not enough, calculation of the risks should be applied!

2345.       cedars
235 posts
 24 Jan 2009 Sat 03:41 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Unfortunately it is a risk that women take when marrying into a culture such as this, where men have the most rights.  Love is not enough, calculation of the risks should be applied!

 

 I think this has nothing to do with culture but rather with the law. When marrying someone, one does that according to a certain law therefore for divorce/  child custody the law that is applied is the same as the law that was applied for marriage.

 

To give an example, since this is a recurrent problem in lebanon, 2 lebanese who were married in cyprus under the chypriot law, in case of dicorce the court dont follow the lebanese law but rather the chypriot law. It is a contract like any other contract and in order to break it you follow the law under which it was established at the first place.

 

So if the lady go married in dubai following the emirates law, in case of divorce , child custody, inheritance, etc etc they will follow the emirati law! It is that simple and has nothing to do with culture. Now to say that the law is affected by the culture that is true.

 

As for adultary, one has to abide with the laws of the country they live in. She took the risk and she has to pay the price.

 I dont say that this is correct but knowing where you live why take risks!

 I dont go live in saudia for example and walk without the head cover and when arrested I shout "bad culture" or whatever. I dont go there at the first place!

 

2346.       femmeous
2642 posts
 24 Jan 2009 Sat 07:34 pm

Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.

Vigilantes seized the black and white goat, saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into an animal to escape after trying to steal a Mazda 323.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1127012/Police-arrest-goat-accused-armed-robbery.html

2347.       lessluv
1052 posts
 24 Jan 2009 Sat 07:36 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.

Vigilantes seized the black and white goat, saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into an animal to escape after trying to steal a Mazda 323.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1127012/Police-arrest-goat-accused-armed-robbery.html

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol}{#lang_emotions_lol}

2348.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Jan 2009 Sun 08:46 pm

Getting Rid of the "War on Terror" Mindset

 

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=getting_rid_of_the_war_on_terror_mindset

2349.       kafesteki kush
104 posts
 26 Jan 2009 Mon 09:24 pm

OMG!!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}I have learnt that as a representative of Polish nation I have ´ ball nose"

 We use this phrase in Turkey for the people who have a nose like a small greengage

by



http://vedatc.blogspot.com/2008/12/have-you-ever-guessed-country-or.html

 now being confused is it good or not{#lang_emotions_unsure}

2350.       catwoman
8933 posts
 26 Jan 2009 Mon 09:30 pm

 

Quoting kafesteki kush

OMG!!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}I have learnt that as a representative of Polish nation I have ´ ball nose"

 We use this phrase in Turkey for the people who have a nose like a small greengage

by



http://vedatc.blogspot.com/2008/12/have-you-ever-guessed-country-or.html

 now being confused is it good or not{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

Well, it´s always better then having a crooked nose! (as Turkish nation representatives do )

2351.       kafesteki kush
104 posts
 26 Jan 2009 Mon 09:56 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Well, it´s always better then having a crooked nose! (as Turkish nation representatives do )

 

 u boosted my spirit...{#lang_emotions_flowers}

2352.       lessluv
1052 posts
 26 Jan 2009 Mon 10:29 pm

A young Polish woman who was forced to give birth on the London Underground has revealed how she was sent away from a leading maternity hospital just two hours before her baby was born.

Julita Kowalska, 26, became the first woman in 84 years recorded as giving birth on the Tube when her daughter Jennifer was born at Kingsbury, North London, on the evening of December 19 last year.

Earlier that night Julita had been taken by ambulance from her home in North London, to St Mary’s Hospital in Paddington, West London, where Prince William and Prince Harry were delivered.

 

The only other recorded birth on the Tube was in 1924 when a woman called Daisy Hammond gave birth to baby Marie on a Bakerloo Line train at Elephant and Castle station.

 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127254/My-fury-selfish-Britain-woman-forced-birth-Tube.html

 

Poor woman.... and you´ll probably find they checked her oyster card was valid!!

2353.       kafesteki kush
104 posts
 26 Jan 2009 Mon 10:32 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

A young Polish woman who was forced to give birth on the London Underground has revealed how she was sent away from a leading maternity hospital just two hours before her baby was born.

Julita Kowalska, 26, became the first woman in 84 years recorded as giving birth on the Tube when her daughter Jennifer was born at Kingsbury, North London, on the evening of December 19 last year.

Earlier that night Julita had been taken by ambulance from her home in North London, to St Mary’s Hospital in Paddington, West London, where Prince William and Prince Harry were delivered.

 

The only other recorded birth on the Tube was in 1924 when a woman called Daisy Hammond gave birth to baby Marie on a Bakerloo Line train at Elephant and Castle station.

 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127254/My-fury-selfish-Britain-woman-forced-birth-Tube.html

 

Poor woman.... and you´ll probably find they checked her oyster card was valid!!

 

 will her baby have till the end of life free pass???that would be just!

2354.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 01:59 am

 

Quoting kafesteki kush

 will her baby have till the end of life free pass???that would be just!

 

 What a horrible story! BTW I was looking at her photo trying to see what a ball nose is....

2355.       lessluv
1052 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 03:41 am

 

Quoting alameda

 What a horrible story! BTW I was looking at her photo trying to see what a ball nose is....

 

{#lang_emotions_lol_fast} you are wicked!

2356.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 01:51 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 What a horrible story! BTW I was looking at her photo trying to see what a ball nose is....

 

lol lol lol

2357.       cedars
235 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 03:26 pm

Octuplets Born In Bellflower Doing ´Very Well´

BELLFLOWER, Calif. (AP) ―  

 Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.

 

http://cbs2.com/local/octuplets.Bellflower.8.2.918573.html

2358.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 03:44 pm

 

Quoting cedars

Octuplets Born In Bellflower Doing ´Very Well´

BELLFLOWER, Calif. (AP) ―  

 Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.

 

http://cbs2.com/local/octuplets.Bellflower.8.2.918573.html

 

 8 babies in one go - all born within 5 minutes apparently!  What an horific thought!! 2 in under two years was enough {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

2359.       femmeous
2642 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 03:49 pm

Cabbies banned man´s guide dog


27/ 1/2009

A BLIND man has hit out at two cabbies who refused to carry him and his guide dog.

Jon Prashar, 45, was turned away twice outside Rochdale railway station as he tried to travel to a conference with his dog, Amber.

A quick-thinking colleague took a note of the taxis´ registration numbers and an investigation was launched by council officials. The drivers, Talib Hussain, 51 and Mohammed Idress, 37, were tracked down and prosecuted in a landmark case for Rochdale council.

Jon, who has been blind since birth, said: "When we approached the first taxi I could hear the driver say ´no dog´.
Boot

"He then said Amber could go in the boot. I asked if it was an estate car because that would have been fine but it wasn´t. There´s no way she was going in a closed boot - she´d have freaked out.

"He then went to speak to the driver behind him and the pair of them drove off. Fortunately my colleague got their registration numbers. We had to get a black cab."

Jon, who works in marketing, said: "To be fair to the drivers they were both very pleasant.

"When they knew I was taking action one drove to my house to apologise. I don´t think they were being malicious and they do a very unpleasant job. But something needs to be done to stop this from happening again."

A number of Muslim drivers have expressed concern about carrying guide dogs in their cabs. Dogs are generally not allowed inside Islamic houses as they are considered unclean.
(yes, once a self-proclaimed profit hated dogs now all his followers are to hate them)


Mosques

However, the Muslim Council of Britain has issued guidance saying Islamic law DOES allow guide dogs to be carried in cabs. They have even been allowed into mosques in the past.

Mike Tyerman, from the Greater Manchester´s Guide Dogs for the Blind Association, agreed. He said: "I think it tends to be individual drivers and a misunderstanding from a religious context.

"We get a lot of concern from the Muslim community but when you talk to anyone well versed in Muslim texts they say guide dogs and working dogs should be no problem."

Mr Hussain, of Chevron Close, Marland, Rochdale, was fined £125. Mr Idress, of Bolton Road, Sudden, Rochdale, was fined £100. Both were ordered to pay £128 costs at Rochdale Magistrates Court.

 

 

2360.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 06:49 pm

   

ASIA HOT!! Japan Nose UP Clip Lifting Shaping Clipper

 

A device to reshape one´s nose.....

2361.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 07:26 pm

 

Quoting cedars

Octuplets Born In Bellflower Doing ´Very Well´

BELLFLOWER, Calif. (AP) ―  

 Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.

 

http://cbs2.com/local/octuplets.Bellflower.8.2.918573.html

 

OMG that´s uncomprehensible! I´m having cold feet about getting pregnant again after one pregnancy, having octuplets...{#lang_emotions_scared} how did she manage to walk? And how will she manage to feed them and nurse them? It´s hard enough with one baby at home. And then think about adolescence and puberty...{#lang_emotions_ninja}

2362.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 27 Jan 2009 Tue 10:09 pm

Israeli students call Barak ´murderer´
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak has cancelled his visit to a university in Tel Aviv after being called a ´murderer´ by the students.

Barak canceled his visit to Tel Aviv University´s Law Department, after a graffiti sprayed on the walls of the building called him a ´murderer´, Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot reported Monday.

The incident came after Israel launched a unilateral all-out military offensive against the Gaza Strip, killing at least 1,300 people including women and children.

The graffiti was drawn on the entryway to the Law Department ahead of the defense minister´s visit.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=82968&sectionid=351020202


Tel Aviv has been internationally condemned for launching the war on Gaza which eventually failed to achieve even the primary goals set in the beginning of offensive.

2363.       cedars
235 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 01:36 pm

One french out of Ten is victim of incest!!

 

This is the result of an investigation done for the first timeby institu Ipso and the international association of incest victims. The final report is presented wednesday to the parliament "assemblee generale" 

 

article in french

http://www.20minutes.fr/article/294099/France-Un-Francais-sur-dix-victime-d-inceste.php

2364.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 07:42 pm

Charlie Rose - Rashid Khalidi               super, excellent interview

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4n4Og1OZY

2365.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 08:26 pm

Vegetarians have better sex?!!!

The American broadcaster NBC has rejected a provocative TV advert for PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals - on the grounds that it is too sexy.
..
The scenes include a blindfolded woman who erupts with delight after spending a little "quality" time with her asparagus and a woman who performs a seductive dance with a squash.

The ad concludes with the message "Studies show vegetarians have better sex."

PETA says that vegetarians tend to be on average fitter and slimmer than meat eaters and therefore better in bed.

They also say people who eat meat and dairy products are more likely to have heart disease, be obese, and suffer from impotence.
..
Senior Vice President Lisa Lange said; ""PETA´s veggie ads are denied airtime while ads for fried chicken and burgers are allowed—even though these foods make Americans fat, sick, and boring in bed."

 

NBC was planning to show the advert, put together by animal charity PETA, during this Sunday´s Superbowl extravaganza - an event watched by more than 70million Americans. But it has refused to air the ´Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex´ advert unless certain shots - including a model licking a pumpkin and a model rubbing asparagus over her lap - are removed

 

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/science/2009/01/vegetarians-have-better-sex-ac.html

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89875/89875093.jpg

 

Lies lies lies!!

There is no clinical proof for this!!!!

 

 

2366.       femmeous
2642 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 08:40 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Lies lies lies!!

 

 shhhhh dont say these words! CANLI may delete your posts, admins may lock the thread and alameda&CO may get offended and proptest you.

 

be careful

2367.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 08:42 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Vegetarians have better sex?!!!

The American broadcaster NBC has rejected a provocative TV advert for PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals - on the grounds that it is too sexy.
..
The scenes include a blindfolded woman who erupts with delight after spending a little "quality" time with her asparagus and a woman who performs a seductive dance with a squash.

The ad concludes with the message "Studies show vegetarians have better sex."

PETA says that vegetarians tend to be on average fitter and slimmer than meat eaters and therefore better in bed.

They also say people who eat meat and dairy products are more likely to have heart disease, be obese, and suffer from impotence.
..
Senior Vice President Lisa Lange said; ""PETA´s veggie ads are denied airtime while ads for fried chicken and burgers are allowed—even though these foods make Americans fat, sick, and boring in bed."

 

NBC was planning to show the advert, put together by animal charity PETA, during this Sunday´s Superbowl extravaganza - an event watched by more than 70million Americans. But it has refused to air the ´Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex´ advert unless certain shots - including a model licking a pumpkin and a model rubbing asparagus over her lap - are removed

 

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/science/2009/01/vegetarians-have-better-sex-ac.html

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89875/89875093.jpg

 

Lies lies lies!!

There is no clinical proof for this!!!!

 

 Do you eat meat and dairy products? lol lol

2368.       lessluv
1052 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 10:12 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Vegetarians have better sex?!!!

The American broadcaster NBC has rejected a provocative TV advert for PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals - on the grounds that it is too sexy.
..
The scenes include a blindfolded woman who erupts with delight after spending a little "quality" time with her asparagus and a woman who performs a seductive dance with a squash.

The ad concludes with the message "Studies show vegetarians have better sex."

PETA says that vegetarians tend to be on average fitter and slimmer than meat eaters and therefore better in bed.

They also say people who eat meat and dairy products are more likely to have heart disease, be obese, and suffer from impotence.
..
Senior Vice President Lisa Lange said; ""PETA´s veggie ads are denied airtime while ads for fried chicken and burgers are allowed—even though these foods make Americans fat, sick, and boring in bed."

 

NBC was planning to show the advert, put together by animal charity PETA, during this Sunday´s Superbowl extravaganza - an event watched by more than 70million Americans. But it has refused to air the ´Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex´ advert unless certain shots - including a model licking a pumpkin and a model rubbing asparagus over her lap - are removed

 

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/science/2009/01/vegetarians-have-better-sex-ac.html

 

http://images2.image-data.com/images/95/thumbs/89875/89875093.jpg

 

Lies lies lies!!

There is no clinical proof for this!!!!

 

 what rubbish .....everyone knows sex is much better when sausages are a factor{#lang_emotions_lol}

2369.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 10:19 pm

 

Quoting alameda

     

ASIA HOT!! Japan Nose UP Clip Lifting Shaping Clipper

 

A device to reshape one´s nose.....

 

Sounds like a tongue twister that could go horribly wrong {#lang_emotions_lol}

2370.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 10:23 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 what rubbish .....everyone knows sex is much better when sausages are a factor{#lang_emotions_lol}

 

And that would be a Lincolnshire Sausage or a Cumberland sausage? {#lang_emotions_lol}

2371.       lessluv
1052 posts
 28 Jan 2009 Wed 10:48 pm

 

Quoting libralady

And that would be a Lincolnshire Sausage or a Cumberland sausage? {#lang_emotions_lol}

 

 

Stock photo: Turkish Sausage

Turkish Sausage

 

{#lang_emotions_lol}

2372.       libralady
5152 posts
 29 Jan 2009 Thu 12:18 am

 

Quoting lessluv

Stock photo: Turkish Sausage

Turkish Sausage

 

{#lang_emotions_lol}

 

How could I have not thought of that! haha

 

2373.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 29 Jan 2009 Thu 05:04 pm

These are Turkish children

 

2374.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 29 Jan 2009 Thu 06:18 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

These are Turkish children

 

 Yes, I could tell....the one little boy took his shoes off to stand on the others back...Such nice manners!  Cute picture!!

 

2375.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 06:11 am

 

Born again American

 

It´s a song written by Keith Carradine and performed by artists from all over the country.

 

http://www.bornagainamerican.org:80/

2376.       kafesteki kush
104 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 02:31 pm

Daniel Tammet  ingenious British high functioning autistic savant......learnt Icelandic language in a week time.....

and we all are struggling with Turkish....ehhh{#lang_emotions_shy}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4nti#M.C3.A4nti

2377.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 05:33 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

OMG that´s uncomprehensible! I´m having cold feet about getting pregnant again after one pregnancy, having octuplets...{#lang_emotions_scared} how did she manage to walk? And how will she manage to feed them and nurse them? It´s hard enough with one baby at home. And then think about adolescence and puberty...{#lang_emotions_ninja}

 

 It gets even better....this woman already has SIX other children at home!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_noway} 

Why, why, whyyyyyyy would she use fertility drugs when you have 6 children already? {#lang_emotions_confused} 

2378.       lessluv
1052 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 05:43 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 It gets even better....this woman already has SIX other children at home!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_noway} 

Why, why, whyyyyyyy would she use fertility drugs when you have 6 children already? {#lang_emotions_confused} 

 

 omg...... I can´t think of anything worse... I love the little beggers but 14 kids is just a wee bit {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

2379.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 08:25 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 It gets even better....this woman already has SIX other children at home!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_noway} 

Why, why, whyyyyyyy would she use fertility drugs when you have 6 children already? {#lang_emotions_confused} 

 

 It is completely irresponsible - she had fertility treatment "somewhere" which she is keeping secret and was already 12 weeks pregnant with the 8 feotus before she went to see the doctor.  She is keeping anonymous at the moment, but it will only be a matter of time.

2380.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 08:31 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 It is completely irresponsible - she had fertility treatment "somewhere" which she is keeping secret and was already 12 weeks pregnant with the 8 feotus before she went to see the doctor.  She is keeping anonymous at the moment, but it will only be a matter of time.

 

 How could any responsible physician be involved in this type of fertility treatment?  {#lang_emotions_wtf} 

2381.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 09:48 pm


 

 

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Baby Mouse Wine


Baby mouse wine. All bad.

 

 

 



Used as a cure all in rural parts of Korea, it´s made by stuffing a hoard of two to three day old mice into a bottle of rice wine and leaving it to stew for, ooh, a good year or so.



2382.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 09:55 pm

 

Cure all? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

thanks but NO THANKS! {#lang_emotions_puking}

2383.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 10:31 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 How could any responsible physician be involved in this type of fertility treatment?  {#lang_emotions_wtf} 

 

 Maybe it was a do-it-yourself jobby off the internet {#lang_emotions_scared}

2384.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 10:35 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Maybe it was a do-it-yourself jobby off the internet {#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 {#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_scared}

2385.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 10:49 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 It gets even better....this woman already has SIX other children at home!  {#lang_emotions_wtf}{#lang_emotions_scared}{#lang_emotions_noway} 

Why, why, whyyyyyyy would she use fertility drugs when you have 6 children already? {#lang_emotions_confused} 

 

offffff how can she afford it? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

I hope she is not receiving welfare benefits  {#lang_emotions_rant}

2386.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 30 Jan 2009 Fri 11:15 pm

 

Quoting geniuda

offffff how can she afford it? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

 

I hope she is not receiving welfare benefits  {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 She´s probably banking the kindness of the public, who always seem to be more than willing to donate to these baby machines............or her own TV show on TLC {#lang_emotions_noway} 

2387.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 31 Jan 2009 Sat 06:50 pm

A Jewish peaceactivist URI  AVENERY has written excellent articles on Gaza and Israel

 

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2388.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 31 Jan 2009 Sat 07:17 pm

Hannah Arendt on Eichmann

 

Hannah Arendt (October 14, 1906 – December 4, 1975) was an influential German-Jewish political theorist. She has often been described as a philosopher, although she always refused that label on the grounds that philosophy is concerned with "man in the singular." She described herself instead as a political theorist because her work centers on the fact that "men, not Man, live on the earth and inhabit the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt

 

 

 

 

Eichmann in Jerusalem

 

Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil is a book written by political theorist Hannah Arendt, originally published in 1963. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Hitler´s rise to power, reported on Adolf Eichmann´s trial for The New Yorker

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem

2389.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 02:34 am

Canadian woman admits she strangled daughter to keep boyfriend

 

A woman from Bridgewater, N.S., has been handed a life sentence with no parole eligibility for 20 years for strangling her only child after her boyfriend gave her an ultimatum.

Penny Boudreau, 34, pleaded guilty Friday to second-degree murder in the death of 12-year-old Karissa Boudreau.

The girl´s frozen body was found on the outskirts of Bridgewater on Feb. 9, 2008, about two weeks after her mother reported her missing.

Boudreau, wearing a black T-shirt and jeans, told the court, "I´m sorry."

When asked about the apology, Paul Boudreau, Karissa´s father, said bluntly: "Crocodile tears."

"Justice has been served," he added.

Justice Margaret Stewart, who handed down the sentence at the Nova Scotia Supreme Court in Bridgewater, said the horrible crime merited a harsh sentence.

"You can never call yourself mother in conjunction with Karissa´s name again," Stewart said.

Karissa´s relatives sobbed loudly as Crown attorney Paul Scovil read out the grim details of the girl´s final moments in an agreed statement of facts.

The court heard that Boudreau´s boyfriend, Vernon Macumber, told her she had to choose between him and her daughter if she wanted to save their relationship.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/01/30/ns-karissa-guilty.html

2390.       lessluv
1052 posts
 01 Feb 2009 Sun 04:05 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

Canadian woman admits she strangled daughter to keep boyfriend

 

A woman from Bridgewater, N.S., has been handed a life sentence with no parole eligibility for 20 years for strangling her only child after her boyfriend gave her an ultimatum.

Penny Boudreau, 34, pleaded guilty Friday to second-degree murder in the death of 12-year-old Karissa Boudreau.

The girl´s frozen body was found on the outskirts of Bridgewater on Feb. 9, 2008, about two weeks after her mother reported her missing.

Boudreau, wearing a black T-shirt and jeans, told the court, "I´m sorry."

When asked about the apology, Paul Boudreau, Karissa´s father, said bluntly: "Crocodile tears."

"Justice has been served," he added.

Justice Margaret Stewart, who handed down the sentence at the Nova Scotia Supreme Court in Bridgewater, said the horrible crime merited a harsh sentence.

"You can never call yourself mother in conjunction with Karissa´s name again," Stewart said.

Karissa´s relatives sobbed loudly as Crown attorney Paul Scovil read out the grim details of the girl´s final moments in an agreed statement of facts.

The court heard that Boudreau´s boyfriend, Vernon Macumber, told her she had to choose between him and her daughter if she wanted to save their relationship.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/01/30/ns-karissa-guilty.html

 

 this story doesn´t bear thinking about.....to take the life of a child, your own child in exchange for a man definately not worth anything to be making those sort of ultimatums..... I really don´t know what can be in the heads of these people {#lang_emotions_sad} 

2391.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 01:17 am

despite late hours in egypt canli is still here to watch my posts and if necessary to delete in case my posts pose a threat to her cocooned culture lol and thinking on which word to pick again in order to ban.

a comedy really

2392.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 01:48 am

 

Quoting lessluv

 this story doesn´t bear thinking about.....to take the life of a child, your own child in exchange for a man definately not worth anything to be making those sort of ultimatums..... I really don´t know what can be in the heads of these people {#lang_emotions_sad} 

 

This is a horrendous story! I actually think it is something to really ponder. What depths of depravity can some sink to? What has happened to basic humanity, what about mother instinct? Something here went very bezerk.

2393.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 02:02 am

 

Quoting alameda

This is a horrendous story! I actually think it is something to really ponder. What depths of depravity can some sink to? What has happened to basic humanity, what about mother instinct? Something here went very bezerk.

 

This is sick and repulsive, I hate even reading such stories. Life is not fair, some people cannot have a child and some treat parenthood like garbage...I wish there was a test for parenthood, some people do not deserve to be called people

2394.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 02:08 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

This is sick and repulsive, I hate even reading such stories. Life is not fair, some people cannot have a child and some treat parenthood like garbage...I wish there was a test for parenthood, some people do not deserve to be called people

 

 + 10000000{#lang_emotions_sad}

2395.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 02:10 am

{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}I am at work......there has just been 4 inches of snow fall and lots more expected in the night.... questionable whether I will be able to get home!!

 

(typically we have been expecting it and you think they would have put something in place to prevent transportation meltdown!!)

Snow in England



Edited (2/2/2009) by lessluv [another pretty picture add :D]

2396.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 06:02 am

grr{#lang_emotions_rant} now have 8 inches of snow...... buses have decided to suspend all routes....the council only grit the roads that buses go on and as they have been suspended, the roads are not being cleared therefore I´m in for a treacherous drive at end of shift that is if any of my colleagues make it here otherwise I´m here for a double shift.....booooooo

 

Hmmm are we really in the 21st century????{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

A bus goes past the House of Commons as it crosses Westminister Bridge during a snow fall



Edited (2/2/2009) by lessluv [glamming up post with pictre]

2397.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 06:17 am

well just who do these guys think they are talking to{#lang_emotions_get_you}

Bank tells staff: Don´t forget the lipstick, girls

The Bank of England came under fire last night for "institutional sexism", after it held a seminar for female staff to advise them on what clothing, shoes and make-up to wear.

A memo leaked from the meeting details the advice given to staff, including the warning that wearing certain accessories would make women workers look like prostitutes.

"Look professional, not fashionable; be careful with perfume; always wear a heel of some sort – maximum two inches; always wear some sort of makeup, even if it´s just lipstick," read the memo. It was distributed by the professional image consultancy firm hired by the bank for the event.

"Shoes and skirt must be the same colour. No-nos include ankle chains – "professional, but not the one you want to be associated with" – white high heels; overstuffed handbags; an overload of rings, and double-pierced ears," it continued.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/bank-tells-staff-dont-forget-the-lipstick-girls-1522530.html

 

2398.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 10:23 am

a lot of snow and cant believe it still snowing!

2399.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 10:27 am

 

Quoting femmeous

a lot of snow and cant believe it still snowing!

 

 booo , just done a night shift ....no staff have been able to get into work so have to stay indefinately I am very very tired and not happy about driving in snow {#lang_emotions_cry}

2400.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 10:35 am

 

Quoting lessluv

grr{#lang_emotions_rant} now have 8 inches of snow...... buses have decided to suspend all routes....the council only grit the roads that buses go on and as they have been suspended, the roads are not being cleared therefore I´m in for a treacherous drive at end of shift that is if any of my colleagues make it here otherwise I´m here for a double shift.....booooooo

 

Hmmm are we really in the 21st century????{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

A bus goes past the House of Commons as it crosses Westminister Bridge during a snow fall

 

ha ha..

Lessluv, you are much better than bbc´s weather pages..

2401.       chiko
135 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 11:58 am

Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass

2402.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 12:26 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 booo , just done a night shift ....no staff have been able to get into work so have to stay indefinately I am very very tired and not happy about driving in snow {#lang_emotions_cry}

 

 stop moaning lessluv. be morelove say: oh, how wonderful! how beautiful! finally some true winter!

5cm of snow, and its a national tragedy, schools are closed lol a pure anecdote.

2403.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 12:33 pm

 

Quoting chiko

Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass

 

 why silly? {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

love is love

love never can be silly

it can be blind

 

btw, i dont think the google translator will be of much help since the dudus dont even try to write their lovely messages correctly in turkish. automatic translators arent good at guessing, you know

2404.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 12:39 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 stop moaning lessluv. be morelove say: oh, how wonderful! how beautiful! finally some true winter!

5cm of snow, and its a national tragedy, schools are closed lol a pure anecdote.

 

 15 hours of telling people they can´t have medical help has made me noluv {#lang_emotions_sad}

2405.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 12:49 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 15 hours of telling people they can´t have medical help has made me noluv {#lang_emotions_sad}

 

 unbelievable a little snow causes such disaster and chaos. i think its exaggerated. {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

wheres common sense?

2406.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 12:58 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 unbelievable a little snow causes such disaster and chaos. i think its exaggerated. {#lang_emotions_confused}

 

wheres common sense?

 

 because it only happen once every few decades the governments will not hold funds for contingency plans so even though we knew this would happen they all decide to stick their head in the sand and pretend it won´t happen , causing this chaos....no transportation links , no children able to be at school, therefore no parents able to go to work and that in turn causes capital shutdown ....unable to provide essential services   , woohoo don´t you just love it!!



Edited (2/2/2009) by lessluv [waffle waffle]

2407.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 01:36 pm

We have a saying in Polish that "Winter has surprised road workers like every year" No snow in sunny Cavan Town so far {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

2408.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 02:50 pm

The snow! Having moved desks again (5 times in 16 months) I now have a window view and can sit and look at the snow all day long {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

And whilst on the subject, a few piddly cms and we grind to a halt.  I deliberately left my house early this morning, in my sensible clothes with a shovel in my car, ready for the worst!!!   And what happened?  Nothing, nicely gritted clear roads............... {#lang_emotions_unsure}

2409.       mltm
3690 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 03:06 pm

It looks like there is snow in UK...

2410.       chiko
135 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 03:22 pm

why is it such a big deal? does it never snow in UK ?

2411.       lady in red
6947 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 03:24 pm

 

Quoting chiko

Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass

Quoting femmeous

 

btw, i dont think the google translator will be of much help since the dudus dont even try to write their lovely messages correctly in turkish. automatic translators arent good at guessing, you know

 

 I thought I´d try a little experiment with something already translated on TC

 

Translation request: ´denemi isterdim ben hep senin nefesin kadar yakininda olacagim gokyuzunden sana bakacagim beni asla unutma´

Translated by Marion (one of our best) as: ´I wanted you to try it. I will be as close to you as your breath. I will look out for you from the heavens. never forget me.

Google translation: ´your breath as much as I like the experiment I always look yakininda me I will never forget you gokyuzunden´

Hmm...difficult to know which one to choose isn´t it??  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}  lol



Edited (2/2/2009) by lady in red [Added some text (wanted to try out modify like everyone else!)]

2412.       chiko
135 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 03:31 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

Quoting chiko

Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass

 

 

 I thought I´d try a little experiment with something already translated on TC

 

Translation request: ´denemi isterdim ben hep senin nefesin kadar yakininda olacagim gokyuzunden sana bakacagim beni asla unutma´

Translated by Marion (one of our best) as: ´I wanted you to try it. I will be as close to you as your breath. I will look out for you from the heavens. never forget me.

Google translation: ´your breath as much as I like the experiment I always look yakininda me I will never forget you gokyuzunden´

Hmm...difficult to know which one to choose isn´t it??  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}  lol

 

 

ouh i am laughing out loud here but grammar in turkish message is really bad it is not google´s fault

2413.       si++
3785 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 04:03 pm

Here´s another try from google translation service.

 

ÝRAN GELECEKTE EN GÜÇLÜ DEVLET OLACAK

Ýran´Ã½n Türkiye´den daha iyi bir konumda olduðunu nanoteknolojiyi kullanan, nükleer silah yapan bir ülke olduðunu hatýrlatan Göksel, "Bizdeki gibi türban ile uðraþmýyorlar. Onlarda türbanýn alasý var ama bilimin de alasý var. Ýran büyük bir devlettir. Dikkat ederseniz kimse Ýran´a dalaþamýyor. ABD ve Ýsrail´in Ýran´a vuracaðýný ýsrarla iddia ediyorum ancak Ýran´Ã½ yýkamayacaklar. Ýran gelecekte bu coðrafya da en güçlü devlet olacak."

Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönemin Erbakan hükümeti dönemi olduðunu anlatan Göksel, "Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönem Refah-Yol dönemidir. Geçen yýlki araþtýrmamda Erbakan´a özür borcum olarak büyük harflarle belirttim. Erbakan iç borçlanmayý kýrmaya çalýþtý. AKP müthiþ bir iç borç bataðýnda. 2003´ün Ocak ayýnda toplam 85 milyar dolar iç ve dýþ borç vardý. Þimdi 300 milyar dolarýn üstünde. Peki ne yaptý AKP hükümeti? 3-5 tane duble yol, bana bir tane fabrika gösterin." (CÝHAN)

 

 

 

 

IRAN NEXT GOVERNMENT WILL BE MOST POWERFUL in

Iran Turkey better be in a position that uses nanotechnology, nuclear weapons, a country that is reminiscent Göksel, "We like this do not deal with turban. They take the time turban, but science has time to purchase. Iran is a big state. Caution If anybody Iran ´ not a battle. U.S. and Israel will strike Iran, but Iran insists that the allegations would not collapse. Iran in the future this part will be the most powerful state. "

Malaysia´s best managed of the period, the period of the Erbakan government is describing Göksel, "Turkey is the best managed-term welfare is the way the period. Last year´s research to Erbakan excuse me as my debt harflarle I have declared the major. Erbakan to internal borrowing was trying to break. AKP into a great the debt quagmire. In January 2003 total domestic and external debt was 85 billion dollars. Now, on top of 300 billion dollars. So what did the AKP government? 3-5 double one way, show me one factory. " (CIHAN)

2414.       lady in red
6947 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 04:54 pm

 

Quoting chiko

 

 

ouh i am laughing out loud here but grammar in turkish message is really bad it is not google´s fault

 

...but exactly why the ´machine´ will never take the place of a real live human translator!! (for most translation requests on TC anyway   )

2415.       lady in red
6947 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 04:57 pm

 

Quoting si++

Here´s another try from google translation service.

 

ÝRAN GELECEKTE EN GÜÇLÜ DEVLET OLACAK

Ýran´Ã½n Türkiye´den daha iyi bir konumda olduðunu nanoteknolojiyi kullanan, nükleer silah yapan bir ülke olduðunu hatýrlatan Göksel, "Bizdeki gibi türban ile uðraþmýyorlar. Onlarda türbanýn alasý var ama bilimin de alasý var. Ýran büyük bir devlettir. Dikkat ederseniz kimse Ýran´a dalaþamýyor. ABD ve Ýsrail´in Ýran´a vuracaðýný ýsrarla iddia ediyorum ancak Ýran´Ã½ yýkamayacaklar. Ýran gelecekte bu coðrafya da en güçlü devlet olacak."

Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönemin Erbakan hükümeti dönemi olduðunu anlatan Göksel, "Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönem Refah-Yol dönemidir. Geçen yýlki araþtýrmamda Erbakan´a özür borcum olarak büyük harflarle belirttim. Erbakan iç borçlanmayý kýrmaya çalýþtý. AKP müthiþ bir iç borç bataðýnda. 2003´ün Ocak ayýnda toplam 85 milyar dolar iç ve dýþ borç vardý. Þimdi 300 milyar dolarýn üstünde. Peki ne yaptý AKP hükümeti? 3-5 tane duble yol, bana bir tane fabrika gösterin." (CÝHAN)

 

 

 

 

IRAN NEXT GOVERNMENT WILL BE MOST POWERFUL in

Iran Turkey better be in a position that uses nanotechnology, nuclear weapons, a country that is reminiscent Göksel, "We like this do not deal with turban. They take the time turban, but science has time to purchase. Iran is a big state. Caution If anybody Iran ´ not a battle. U.S. and Israel will strike Iran, but Iran insists that the allegations would not collapse. Iran in the future this part will be the most powerful state. "

Malaysia´s best managed of the period, the period of the Erbakan government is describing Göksel, "Turkey is the best managed-term welfare is the way the period. Last year´s research to Erbakan excuse me as my debt harflarle I have declared the major. Erbakan to internal borrowing was trying to break. AKP into a great the debt quagmire. In January 2003 total domestic and external debt was 85 billion dollars. Now, on top of 300 billion dollars. So what did the AKP government? 3-5 double one way, show me one factory. " (CIHAN)

 

I bet the grammar in that one was ok - can we have a competition now to see who can make best sense of it?   (for non-native Turkish speakers of course!)



Edited (2/2/2009) by lady in red [Added text]

2416.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 05:09 pm

My favourite google translation. It can´t even do the simple ones!!!

 

Adým Marion

Ingilizim.

 

Step Marion

English do.

2417.       si++
3785 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 05:09 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

I bet the grammar in that one was ok - can we have a competition now to see who can make best sense of it?   (for non-native Turkish speakers of course!)

 

Nogrammar is not OK for many parts and in one place Malaysia (instead of Turkey I guesss) comes in when there is no Malezya in Turkish text.

2418.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 06:56 pm

Cavan Town is no longer a sunny place I hate snow!!!{#lang_emotions_rant}

2419.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 07:04 pm

 you joker lol

snow once for 20 years and you hate it.

my kids are off making their second snowman

there was a huge joy everywhere (i mean youth and some adults), shooting snowballs, and rolling over snow. just one day of real winter joy.

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Cavan Town is no longer a sunny place I hate snow!!!{#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 

2420.       femmeous
2642 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 07:07 pm

 once 20 years. and today its a chaos.

i woke up 1am and was amazed with the beauty of white cover it was a beautiful scene.

half of snow has already melted off into dirty roads.

 

Quoting chiko

why is it such a big deal? does it never snow in UK ?

 

 

2421.       doudi94
845 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 07:44 pm

Catching my eye today..

1- Femme´s crazy weird and paranoid

2- I cant stop  looking at my AWEsome purple nails, look so hot with my black and purple swatch watch

yeah... lookin at them now, while typing, lool, enough doudi!!!!

 

oh yeah, Question for ppl livin in da UK

is it true in highschool u only need to take 8 OL´s in 3 years????

CAuse then DAMN!! U guyz r REAL lucky!

We have to take (to get into college) 8 OL´s and 2 AL´s, or i think its 8 Ol and 1 AL and another AS

In other words, i think u have 2 take 8 OL´s , 2 As´s and 1 A2 looooooooooool

U know thres this one girl from egypt, she got 3rd on the world, she took 8 Ols and 8 Als!!!!!!

she got 156 %!! Ofcourse now, she in the UK (they took her ona full scholarship!)

Coz i heard tht ppl who finish IGCSE from here wehn they go to the UK they like go to 2nd or 3rd year in uni cause there they take AL´s in uni?

TRUE or FALse???

 

Yeah, anothr question, EDEXCEL is a college? Like Cambridge?

Coz u know we choose our subjects either CAmbridge or edexcel

ANYWAY!!!

umm... i 4got

oh yeah!

I just got my intrnational student card!!!! AWESOME!

Its like a credit card, b4 we go into the exam, we swipe it through this thing so they know we were there

my center number is :- Eg901 and my candidate no:- 0868 see i memorized them

happy

(but my mom gave them an awfuuuuuuuuuuul pic!!My passport pic. YUCK!, u know the one wher u cant smile!!!!)

2422.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 07:44 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

My favourite google translation. It can´t even do the simple ones!!!

 

Adým Marion

Ingilizim.

 

Step Marion

English do.

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

2423.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 07:44 pm

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 15 hours of telling people they can´t have medical help has made me noluv {#lang_emotions_sad}

 

 Well, look at it this way....it is giving you more time to be on TC {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

2424.       lessluv
1052 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 09:13 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 15 hours of telling people they can´t have medical help has made me noluv {#lang_emotions_sad}

 

 Well, look at it this way....it is giving you more time to be on TC {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

 

 true true.....more of the same tonight woohoo

2425.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 09:38 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

 

 

 true true.....more of the same tonight woohoo

 

 That is a totally unconvincing "woohoo".  {#lang_emotions_noway}

Try it again, and this time, put a little more umph into it!!  {#lang_emotions_razz}

2426.       insallah
1277 posts
 02 Feb 2009 Mon 09:54 pm

 

 

oh yeah, Question for ppl livin in da UK

is it true in highschool u only need to take 8 OL´s in 3 years????

 

 

Yeah, anothr question, EDEXCEL is a college? Like Cambridge?

Coz u know we choose our subjects either CAmbridge or edexcel

 

 lol welcome back doudi, your posts always crack me up

As for your questions we don´t do o levels in the uk anymore it´s GSCE´´s and you do between 10 - 12... then 3 A levels and a AS

 

And no EDEXCEL is not a university {#lang_emotions_lol} It is an Exam moderating organisation

2427.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 12:04 am

Shoe hurled at Chinese PM in UK  - I guess shoe throwing is becoming fashion,

http://english.aljazeera.net/business/2009/02/200922113521108103.html

2428.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 12:04 am

Deaths as heavy snow grips Europe
Britain´s meteorological office issued a severe weather warning for London and the southeast [AFP]

Five people have died as severe weather continued to affect much of western Europe, with heavy falls causing major flight disruptions in Britain and France and bringing misery to the roads.

In Wales, two climbers were found dead on Mount Snowdon, while in Italy three people lost their lives and 500 people had to be evacuated from their homes.

London lay under 10cm of snow, the most recorded in the British capital in 18 years, with snow showers reaching as far south Spain and Morocco.

Ireland´s meteorological office has issued a severe weather warning that "heavy snowfall" of up to eight centimetres will affect eastern areas later on Monday.

In France, flights were delayed by an average of an hour in Paris´s Orly and Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airports.

One of Orly´s two runways was closed, while the other opened two hours late.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/02/2009221773518234.html

 

2429.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 12:36 am

Khalil Bendib: Pledging Allegiance to No One

By JAKOB SCHILLER
Tuesday March 16, 2004

Standing on the deck off the third-story studio at his Berkeley home, Khalil Bendib tries to match his pose to that of the Statue of Liberty. Oversized pen in one hand and a fez on his head, he checks an old newspaper photo of the statue to make sure he is holding his head in the right place and stretching his arm up high enough. Like everything Bendib does, he is in the process of creating a spoof by re-imagining a well-known scene and making it his own.

That’s why Bendib is a cartoonist, the profession for which he is best-known. That is often complemented by the native Algerian’s lesser-known and more serious side—that of a fine artist.

Since coming to the United States in 1977, Bendib has pursued various forms of artwork that include painting, sculpture and ceramics. Like his cartoons, his artwork is political. Yet it is also intensely personal, with most of his paintings and non-commissioned sculptures and ceramic works focusing on his Middle Eastern culture.

Bendib also has several large commissioned works, including three separate sculptures that hang on the north side of the Gaia building. All three represent the Greek goddess Gaia, in various incarnations, and are meant to represent the power of women.

Instead of a play on a theme like his cartoons, Bendib uses his art to convey a much more direct message. It’s about “portraying my roots and my culture in a way that is attractive,” he explains. “It’s an attempt to balance all the negative images that are attached to my culture.”

One of the artist’s paintings, Cafe de Almohades, shows two groups of men sitting at a cafe drinking coffee and talking. The scene is set in Morocco, and Bendib says it is meant to represent the serenity of the culture. Unlike here in the United States, where “time is money,” Bendib shows the men enjoying their time with each other, focused on their conversation and nothing else.

“What I liked so much was their freedom from the constraint on time,” he says. “When I went back to Morocco it occurred to me that [in the United States] we don’t have this wonderful calm. They are daydreaming, what we would call in the west, ‘wasting time.’”

Bendib’s most popular pieces are his ceramics, which he says create a nice medium between drawing and sculpting. Coffee is the preferred theme.

Whereas his ceramics evince a gentle nature, his cartoons are more what he calls “blunt instruments,” coming through like a wrecking ball, shattering assumptions.

It Became Necessary to Destroy The Planet in Order to Save the It, a collection of Bendib’s political cartoons, contains a three-panel cartoon that juxtaposes two young boys with Jerusalem in the background. The boy on the left greets the other boy and says, “Hi, I’m Haile, a Jew from Ethiopia.” In the next frame the boy on the right answers, “And I’m Ali, a Palestinian from here,” which prompts the Ethiopian boy to ask, “What are you doing here in my country?”

“It’s not completely accurate and it’s not meant to be,” Bendib says about a cartoon. But, “such an exaggerated thing can be devastating. That’s what makes my cartoons either so attractive or repulsive.”

Aside from the obvious political element within his artwork, Bendib feels the conception of the art itself is a political statement. He says he produces art the way he wants to and refuses to conform to the standards that have been set out there for “good art.”

“Even as a artist, I find myself ‘reinventing the wheel’ so to speak, to escape those little boxes that exist even in the art world—the various art fads. I’ve never pledged allegiance to any particular school or art movement, finding myself in that way also, again, somewhat of an oddball, even among artists.”

Bendib continues to produce work that pushes the comfort level, even among leftists. His post-9/11 cartoons have tackled some of the harder issues that continue to be edged out everywhere else.

Several of the cartoons in the 9/11 section of his book focus on the racism both the Arab and Muslim communities faced. One strip has three frames, the first, labeled “Pearl Harbor 1941,” shows a flag-waving American demanding to “Kill all the Japs.” The next frame, labeled “NYC, D.C. 2001,” shows the same American demanding to “Kill all the Muslims.” The third and final frame is labeled “Oklahoma City, 1995,” and in it the American initially demands to “Kill all the white guys,” then, thinking better, adds, “No, wait a minute...Punish the Guilty, Don’t Generalize.”

As an Arab and a Muslim, Bendib confesses he was scared initially that his cartoons would anger someone enough that they would come knocking on his door.

“I am scared,” he says. “But I am compelled to do these cartoons. Post-9/11, Arab and Muslim Americans have become the proverbial canary in the cage in the mine shaft of our constitutional liberties. As their rights are being taken away, so will, eventually, the rights of all citizens be eroded and gradually ‘disappeared,’ if we keep sliding on this downward slope. My job is to debunk [the stereotype], and that makes me unpopular with those in the mainstream whose job it is to spread this message. The common denominator between all my cartoons is rebellion against blind conformity.”
<[script] type="text/javascript"> http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2004-03-16

 

2430.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 12:37 am

2431.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 12:40 am

 

Quoting femmeous

 once 20 years. and today its a chaos.

i woke up 1am and was amazed with the beauty of white cover it was a beautiful scene.

half of snow has already melted off into dirty roads.

 

 

 

 

 Correction!  The worst snow for 18 years.  We had snow last Easter.

2432.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 12:46 am

 

Quoting doudi94

Catching my eye today..

1- Femme´s crazy weird and paranoid

2- I cant stop  looking at my AWEsome purple nails, look so hot with my black and purple swatch watch

yeah... lookin at them now, while typing, lool, enough doudi!!!!

 

oh yeah, Question for ppl livin in da UK

is it true in highschool u only need to take 8 OL´s in 3 years????

CAuse then DAMN!! U guyz r REAL lucky!

We have to take (to get into college) 8 OL´s and 2 AL´s, or i think its 8 Ol and 1 AL and another AS

In other words, i think u have 2 take 8 OL´s , 2 As´s and 1 A2 looooooooooool

U know thres this one girl from egypt, she got 3rd on the world, she took 8 Ols and 8 Als!!!!!!

she got 156 %!! Ofcourse now, she in the UK (they took her ona full scholarship!)

Coz i heard tht ppl who finish IGCSE from here wehn they go to the UK they like go to 2nd or 3rd year in uni cause there they take AL´s in uni?

TRUE or FALse???

 

Yeah, anothr question, EDEXCEL is a college? Like Cambridge?

Coz u know we choose our subjects either CAmbridge or edexcel

ANYWAY!!!

umm... i 4got

oh yeah!

I just got my intrnational student card!!!! AWESOME!

Its like a credit card, b4 we go into the exam, we swipe it through this thing so they know we were there

my center number is :- Eg901 and my candidate no:- 0868 see i memorized them

happy

(but my mom gave them an awfuuuuuuuuuuul pic!!My passport pic. YUCK!, u know the one wher u cant smile!!!!)

 

 Doudi, what a jumble!!

 

I know someone else has written about this, but Edexcel and Cambridge set the exam papers. Cambridge is generally recognised as better.  EDexel are quite new to the game and offer what we know as NVQ´s as well.  These are vocational qualifications, not exams but work based.

 

You take GCSE´s age 16 (any number up to about 12 is you are brainy) and there is not real pass level.  But C or above is recognised to be pass for us old fashioned ones!

 

You take AS level age 17 (3 or 4, even 5 if you are clever) again C or above is recognised as pass.  These have only been around for a few years, 3 or 4 I think.

 

You take A levels age 18 (3 or 4) and often follow on from AS level.  You need A levels to get to uni and to get to a good one you need at least 22 points from those A levels.

 

2433.       femmeous
2642 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 01:10 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Correction!  The worst snow for 18 years.  We had snow last Easter.

 

 we sometimes round the numbers but libra was born before maths. lol

 

2434.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 02:56 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 we sometimes round the numbers but libra was born before maths. lol

 

 

 Why not tell the truth? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} 18 years is not 20 years

2435.       femmeous
2642 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 04:38 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Why not tell the truth? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod} 18 years is not 20 years

 

 you won {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

2436.       Trudy
7887 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 09:53 pm

Ministry sends ’No alcohol’ letter
ANKARA - An Education Ministry circular states that universities should make proper introductions to prospective students, enabling them to choose the most fitting tertiary education according to their desires, interests and skills. The ministry says alcohol should not be used as a tool.

More: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/10911560.asp?gid=243

 

*******

A ministry telling students what (not) to drink? Hmmm, sounds Saudi-Arabian to me....

2437.       cedars
235 posts
 03 Feb 2009 Tue 11:32 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

A ministry telling students what (not) to drink? Hmmm, sounds Saudi-Arabian to me....

 

It is  still better than Brigham young university (BYU) in the US where you have to sign a code of honor: no alcohol, no tea, no tobacco, no coffee, no beard, live a chaste and virtuous life.

For men:

Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, revealing, or form fitting. Shorts must be knee length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles or colors, and trimmed above the collar leaving the ear uncovered. Sideburns should not extend below the earlobe or onto the cheek. If worn, moustaches should be neatly trimmed and may not extend beyond or below the corners of the mouth. Men are expected to be clean shaven; beards are not acceptable. Earrings and other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.

for women:

Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, strapless, backless, or revealing; has slits above the knee; or is form fitting. Dresses, skirts, and shorts must be knee length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extremes in styles and colors. Excessive ear piercing (more than one per ear) and all other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.

 

http://honorcode.byu.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3585&Itemid=4643

 

2438.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 04 Feb 2009 Wed 12:05 am

 

Quoting cedars

 

 

It is  still better than Brigham young university (BYU) in the US where you have to sign a code of honor: no alcohol, no tea, no tobacco, no coffee, no beard, live a chaste and virtuous life.

 

 There is a big difference cedears!  Brigham Young University is a private school founded by and run by the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons).  Students who enroll know what is being asked of them before they start and enroll there based on their own moral compass.   It is not the government dictating what students should do. 

2439.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Feb 2009 Wed 12:15 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 There is a big difference cedears!  Brigham Young University is a private school founded by and run by the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons).  Students who enroll know what is being asked of them before they start and enroll there based on their own moral compass.   It is not the government dictating what students should do. 

 

 Most students enrolling in college are under age for drinking alcohol....although there have been scandalous stories about recruiters using very shady methods to recruit students, in particular, athlets, to colleges.

 

Which is to say, I don´t see any problem with the letter. They are underage.

2440.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Feb 2009 Wed 12:18 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

 

Any particular significance to this photo?

2441.       doudi94
845 posts
 04 Feb 2009 Wed 12:52 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Doudi, what a jumble!!

 

I know someone else has written about this, but Edexcel and Cambridge set the exam papers. Cambridge is generally recognised as better.  EDexel are quite new to the game and offer what we know as NVQ´s as well.  These are vocational qualifications, not exams but work based.

 

You take GCSE´s age 16 (any number up to about 12 is you are brainy) and there is not real pass level.  But C or above is recognised to be pass for us old fashioned ones!

 

You take AS level age 17 (3 or 4, even 5 if you are clever) again C or above is recognised as pass.  These have only been around for a few years, 3 or 4 I think.

 

You take A levels age 18 (3 or 4) and often follow on from AS level.  You need A levels to get to uni and to get to a good one you need at least 22 points from those A levels.

 

 

Thx so much Libralady

Whoa , you guys got it easy over there!! U know here , if u choose to take GCSE´s its really hard, and your goal has to be like *´s in evrything cause they only take 10% into egyptian colleges, thats why most of us go to private colleges, especially this year where thye put a max on the no of AL´s u can take, (2 only) mostly people take a lot more than that, the maximum u can get is 116 % (BTw its real easy to get over 100 %)

 

Yeah and i know that edexcel is waay easier, but truth is its better in math, better than cambridge, Especially 4 ppl considering takeing MAth Al , cause it really lays out the base for it, while cambridge just makes everything real complicated.

 

You know in Egypt its real hard to get high grades , cause kids here are REAAAAAAAAAL smart and RAElly care about studying, Egypt has the second highest IGCSE curve in the world after India!!!!!!!!

 

Here, really i swear , we have the ebst teachers in all of the middle east! WE got a couple of foreign students attending the revisions with us(our teachers, outside of school, cause teachers take us revisions outside of school), from China and other weird asian countries, but we got LOADS of students from the gulf. Its pretty cool though

 

ANYWAY! Thx for explaining and thanks 4 ur time

Just wanted to get it all cleared , and like know how the makers of the system apply it themselves!!!!!

2442.       doudi94
845 posts
 04 Feb 2009 Wed 12:56 am

 

Quoting insallah

 

 

 lol welcome back doudi, your posts always crack me up

As for your questions we don´t do o levels in the uk anymore it´s GSCE´´s and you do between 10 - 12... then 3 A levels and a AS

 

And no EDEXCEL is not a university {#lang_emotions_lol} It is an Exam moderating organisation

 

Really??? Whats the difference between an OL and a GCSE? I thougth they were the same :S

OMg 3 AL´s??????? OMG!!!!! AND an AS? In 3 years?? and 10? we only ahve to take 8

2443.       lessluv
1052 posts
 04 Feb 2009 Wed 02:03 pm

http://msn.careerbuilder.co.uk/Article/MSN-66-Workplace-Issues-15-Excuses-for-Calling-in-Sick 

"I was abducted by aliens..."
When asked to share the most unusual excuses workers gave for missing work, recruiting managers shared some of their favourite examples:

  • "I´m too drunk to drive to work."

  • "I accidentally flushed my keys down the toilet."

  • "I had to help deliver a baby on my way to work." (Employee was not in the medical profession.)

  • "I accidentally drove through the automatic garage door before it opened."

  • "My boyfriend´s snake escaped from its cage and I´m afraid to leave the bedroom until he gets home."

  • "I´m too fat to get into my work outfit."

  • "God didn´t wake me." (Employee didn´t believe in alarm clocks and thought a higher power would wake her when she was ready.)

  • "I cut my fingernails too short, they´re bleeding and I have to go to the doctor."

  • "The ghosts in my house kept me up all night."

  • "I forgot I was getting married today."

  • "My cow bit me."

  • "My son accidentally fell asleep next to wet cement in our garden. His foot fell in and we can´t get it out."

  • "I was walking down the street watching road works being done, fell in the hole and hurt myself."

  • "I was walking my dog and slipped on a toad in my driveway and hurt my back."

  • "My house lock jammed, and I´m locked in."

    {#lang_emotions_smile}


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    Edited (2/4/2009) by lessluv [damn I can´t edit the really bad typos in the edit box GRRR]

    2444.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Feb 2009 Wed 02:26 pm

     

    Quoting doudi94

     

     

    Really??? Whats the difference between an OL and a GCSE? I thougth they were the same :S

    OMg 3 AL´s??????? OMG!!!!! AND an AS? In 3 years?? and 10? we only ahve to take 8

     

     O´ Levels ended years ago.  They were just exams at the end of your 5th year in secondary school (age around 15/16).  You would generally take about 10 or so, depending on clever you were.  You did not have to take any actually, and could leave school before.

     

    GCSE´s took over and some of the end result is based on your course work through out the two years you study for them.

     

    Time scales for periods of study:

     

    GCSE = 2 years (14 to 16) take up to 12 or 13

    AS = 1 year (16 - 17) take 4 or 5

    A Levels = 2 years (16 - 18) take 3 to 5

     



    Edited (2/4/2009) by libralady

    2445.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Feb 2009 Wed 02:45 pm

    I was never a Jade Goody fan but this is incredibly sad and my heart goes out to her.

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090204/tuk-jade-goody-s-cancer-nightmare-45dbed5.html

    2446.       armegon
    1872 posts
     04 Feb 2009 Wed 04:17 pm

    Leman´dan Erdoðan´a ilginç teklif

    Baþbakan Tayyip Erdoðan, kendisini eleþtiren bir kapaðý nedeniyle dava açtýðý Leman Dergisi´nden 6 bin TL tazminat kazandý. Parayý Baþbakan´Ã½n hesabýna yatýrdýðýný duyuran dergi, Çetin Altan´a ödül verirken yaptýðý konuþmayý da hatýrlatarak ilginç bir teklifte bulundu. Ýþte Leman´Ã½n Erdoðan´a tazminat cevabý:
    .................................................................................

     

     

    Sayýn Baþbakan

    Bizim kapaðýmýza açtýðýnýz davadaki mahkumiyet kararýmýzý Yargýtay da onayladý. Cezamýz olan 6 bin lirayý size yatýrdýk. Kaldý ki siz 25 bin lira istemiþtiniz. Bize ve karikatürcü arkadaþlara açtýðýnýz davalar hoþgörü ve tahammül sýnýrlarýnýz hakkýnda büyük bir þüphe, tartýþma yarattý. Bu tavrýnýz Amerika Ýnsan Haklarý raporuna bile girdi. Dünya medyalarýnda þaþkýnlýkla karþýlandý. Bu konuda kendinizi sorgulayýnýz. Biz LeMan olarak Çetin Altan gibi þimdiye kadar 300’den fazla davadan yargýlandýk. Size ödediðimiz gibi hesabýný tutamayacaðýmýz para cezalarý ödedik. Hapislerde yattýk. Kaçak durumlarýna düþtük. Biz bu yolun yolcusuyuz. Ancak sizin artýk bu izlediðiniz yolun yolcusu olmamanýz sizin için ama daha önemlisi ülkemiz için daha hayýrlý olacaktýr. Çünkü sizden önceki sað iktidar sahipleri gibi ülkesinin yazar çizerlerini davalarla boðuþmaya, onlarý sindirmeye çalýþmak ülkemizin adýný lekelemekte, yazar çizerlerin ise onurunu parlatmaktadýr.

    Son olarak; Davos’taki tavrýnýzýn devamý olarak bizden kazandýðýnýz parayý Filistinli çocuklara baðýþlamanýzý öneriyoruz. Bu bizim içimizi ferahlatacaktýr.

     

    Kaynak

     

    {#lang_emotions_bigsmile} lol

    2447.       armegon
    1872 posts
     04 Feb 2009 Wed 05:04 pm

    Hillary thanks Bill for "All kinds of experiences"  {#lang_emotions_smile}

    2448.       armegon
    1872 posts
     04 Feb 2009 Wed 09:39 pm

    What a match i watched; Fenerbahçe beaten Lotos Pko Bp Gdynia in OT {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

     

    FENERBAHCE WIN CLASSIC AGAINST LOTOS PKO BP

     

    Fenerbahce edged Lotos PKO BP Gdynia in overtime on Wednesday to advance to the Quarter-Finals of the EuroLeague Women play-offs.

    Esmeral Tuncluer´s three-pointer for Fener with 15 seconds remaining knotted the Eighth-Finals Game 3 decider at 63-63 and then the home side made six free throws in the final 25 seconds of the extra period to win 79-76.

    Even then, the outstanding USA international Tamika Catchings almost sent the game to a second overtime but her attempt from three-point land at the buzzer stayed out.

    The finish completed a remarkable tie with all three contests going to the wire.

    Catchings, arguably the USA´s most valuable player at last summer´s Olympics when they captured a gold medal, had 26 points, eight rebounds and four steals.

    Canada international Tammy Sutton-Brown, a teammate of Catchings with the WNBA´s Indiana Fever, had a game-high 28 points - 18 in the first half - and 11 rebounds for Fener while Turkey international Nevriye Yilmaz was immense yet again for the club with 17 points and 11 boards.

    Fenerbahce dominated the boards, out-rebounding the Polish giants 40-26 but Lotos stayed in their game with their excellent three-point shooting. At one stage, they were nine of 20 before finishing nine of 22 (40.9%).

    Alana Beard scored 22 points - 12 in the first half - in defeat.

    Lotos PKO BP landed some telling blows in the second quarter and opened up their biggest lead at 32-21 after Catchings buried one of her five three-balls to take her points haul to 14.

    Sutton-Brown reeled off the next six points of the game to stop the bleeding for Fenerbahce and the home side ended up going to half-time trailing 39-34.

    Early in the second half, Fenerbahce tied the game at 44-44 after baskets from Nalan Ramazanoglu, Nevin Nevlin and Yilmaz.

    The contest then remained tight until the end of regulation and all the way through overtime.

    Yilmaz scored two straight baskets - a lay-up and a jumper midway through the overtime - for a 69-65 lead and Fener stayed in front the rest of the way although they had to make their free throws to stay in front.
    __________________________________________________________________
    p.s: One bad news; CSKA lost to Halcon Avenida after 2 overtimes and this means Fenerbahce will play UMMC Ekaterinburg on Quarter Finals where now Fenerbahce´s ex-player Cappie Pondexter plays means Fenerbahce has no chance for Final Four


    Edited (2/4/2009) by armegon [Adding info]
    Edited (2/4/2009) by armegon

    2449.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     05 Feb 2009 Thu 02:49 pm

    What´s the difference between sperm samples and discarded toenails?

     

    Six cancer patients whose sperm samples were lost by the NHS have won their claim for damages in a landmark judgement which establishes the legal principle that a man´s semen is his own property.

    The case, which could cost the NHS hundreds of thousands of pounds in compensation, is expected to lead to a review of the law relating to ownership of human body parts.

    In yesterday´s judgment the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Judge, the most senior judge in England and Wales, rejected the notion that sperm held by North Bristol NHS Trust had the same legal status as a discarded toenail or hair cut at a barber´s shop.

     

    I find it ludicrous that the Trust actually thought that they had a good argument comparing sperm to a disgarded toenail..... especially in the circumstances which caused them storing it in the first place

     

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/whats-the-difference-between-sperm-samples-and-discarded-toenails-1546401.html

    2450.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     05 Feb 2009 Thu 09:12 pm

    Not new news but it caught my eyes today while trying to read more about  Asma abdulhamid another party candidate whome i have watched an interview with her last night

    She is veiled and danish palestinian but she also got lots of voices 3822 

     

    Two Turkish women elected to Danish parliament
    Two Turkish-born Muslims have become the first women of immigrant origin to win seats in the Danish parliament, the interior ministry said Thursday.

     

    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=127223

    2451.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 01:48 am

    ooooh .....looking forward to reading the works of our columists!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2452.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 04:20 am

    "Girl with a Pearl Earring" is today´s featured picture on Wikipedia. It is a painting of Johannes Vermeer and it´s called the Dutch Mona Lisa. The painting is currently housed in a museum in The Hague.

     

     Girl With the Pearl Earring

    2453.       cedars
    235 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 12:15 pm

    Octuplets Mom Has 6 Other Kids

     

    (CBS) Doctors say the octuplets born Monday outside Los Angeles are doing well.

    But when they go home, it will be to a truly full house.

    CBS News has learned the mother who gave birth to the octuplets has six other children.

    An acquaintance who didn´t want to be identified told Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman the mom has four older boys and two girls.

     

    "She is young," the acquaintance says, "fairly young. She has six children already. And in those six children, she has a set of twins."

     

    While the hospital where the octuplets were born, Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in Bellflower, Calif., some 17 miles southeast of L.A., hasn´t confirmed that the mom used fertility drugs, there are no documented cases of naturally conceived octuplets, Kauffman points out.

     

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/29/earlyshow/health/main4761676.shtml
    http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-octuplets30-2009jan30,0,6314319.story

    2454.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 02:44 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    "Girl with a Pearl Earring" is today´s featured picture on Wikipedia. It is a painting of Johannes Vermeer and it´s called the Dutch Mona Lisa. The painting is currently housed in a museum in The Hague.

     

     Girl With the Pearl Earring

     

    Have you seen the movie? Colin Firth, as always, very hot {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

    2455.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 02:58 pm

     

    2 Afghans face death over translation of Quran

    KABUL – No one knows who brought the book to the mosque, or at least no one dares say.

    The pocket-size translation of the Quran has already landed six men in prison in Afghanistan and left two of them begging judges to spare their lives. They´re accused of modifying the Quran and their fate could be decided Sunday in court.

    ..
    It was a translation of the Quran into one of Afghanistan´s languages, with a note giving permission to reprint the text as long as it was distributed for free.

    Some of the men of the mosque said the book would be useful to Afghans who didn´t know Arabic, so they took up a collection for printing.

    ...

    Many clerics rejected the book because it did not include the original Arabic verses alongside the translation. It´s a particularly sensitive detail for Muslims, who regard the Arabic Quran as words given directly by God. A translation is not considered a Quran itself, and a mistranslation could warp God´s word.

    ...

    "In all the mosques in Afghanistan, all the mullahs said, ´Zalmai is an infidel. He should be killed,´" Zalmai recounted as he sat outside the chief judge´s chambers waiting for a recent hearing.

    ...

    There is no law in Afghanistan prohibiting the translation of the Quran. But Zalmai is accused of violating Islamic Shariah law by modifying the Quran.

    And Afghanistan´s court system appears to be stacked against those accused of religious crimes. Judges don´t want to seem soft on potential heretics and lawyers don´t want to be seen defending them ...

    The prosecutor wants the death penalty for Zalmai and the cleric, who have now spent more than a year in prison.

    Sentences on religious infractions can be harsh. In January 2008, a court sentenced a journalism student to death for blasphemy for asking questions about women´s rights under Islam. An appeals court reduced the sentence to 20 years in prison. His lawyers appealed again and the case is pending.

    In 2006, an Afghan man was sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. He was later ruled insane and was given asylum in Italy. Islamic leaders and the parliament accused President Hamid Karzai of being a puppet for the West for letting him live.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_translation_on_trial

     

    What a f* up world we live in.

    2456.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 04:50 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    2 Afghans face death over translation of Quran

    KABUL – No one knows who brought the book to the mosque, or at least no one dares say.

    The pocket-size translation of the Quran has already landed six men in prison in Afghanistan and left two of them begging judges to spare their lives. They´re accused of modifying the Quran and their fate could be decided Sunday in court.

    ..
    It was a translation of the Quran into one of Afghanistan´s languages, with a note giving permission to reprint the text as long as it was distributed for free.

    Some of the men of the mosque said the book would be useful to Afghans who didn´t know Arabic, so they took up a collection for printing.

    ...

    Many clerics rejected the book because it did not include the original Arabic verses alongside the translation. It´s a particularly sensitive detail for Muslims, who regard the Arabic Quran as words given directly by God. A translation is not considered a Quran itself, and a mistranslation could warp God´s word.

    ...

    "In all the mosques in Afghanistan, all the mullahs said, ´Zalmai is an infidel. He should be killed,´" Zalmai recounted as he sat outside the chief judge´s chambers waiting for a recent hearing.

    ...

    There is no law in Afghanistan prohibiting the translation of the Quran. But Zalmai is accused of violating Islamic Shariah law by modifying the Quran.

    And Afghanistan´s court system appears to be stacked against those accused of religious crimes. Judges don´t want to seem soft on potential heretics and lawyers don´t want to be seen defending them ...

    The prosecutor wants the death penalty for Zalmai and the cleric, who have now spent more than a year in prison.

    Sentences on religious infractions can be harsh. In January 2008, a court sentenced a journalism student to death for blasphemy for asking questions about women´s rights under Islam. An appeals court reduced the sentence to 20 years in prison. His lawyers appealed again and the case is pending.

    In 2006, an Afghan man was sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. He was later ruled insane and was given asylum in Italy. Islamic leaders and the parliament accused President Hamid Karzai of being a puppet for the West for letting him live.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_translation_on_trial

     

    What a f* up world we live in.

     

     Down-right scary!!!! 

    2457.       libralady
    5152 posts
     06 Feb 2009 Fri 11:30 pm

     

    Quoting cedars

    Octuplets Mom Has 6 Other Kids

     

    (CBS) Doctors say the octuplets born Monday outside Los Angeles are doing well.

    But when they go home, it will be to a truly full house.

    CBS News has learned the mother who gave birth to the octuplets has six other children.

    An acquaintance who didn´t want to be identified told Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman the mom has four older boys and two girls.

     

    "She is young," the acquaintance says, "fairly young. She has six children already. And in those six children, she has a set of twins."

     

    While the hospital where the octuplets were born, Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in Bellflower, Calif., some 17 miles southeast of L.A., hasn´t confirmed that the mom used fertility drugs, there are no documented cases of naturally conceived octuplets, Kauffman points out.

     

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/29/earlyshow/health/main4761676.shtml
    http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-octuplets30-2009jan30,0,6314319.story

     

     She has decided it is time to make some money and has done her first interview for American TV (forget the station) and papers, I guess so she can support her 14 children as a single mother,................. yes she is a single mother.

     

    When you hear this and realise how much it must have cost to deliver those 8 children and how much it will cost to bring them up, I feel nothing but disgust for her and her complete selfishness and irresponsibility! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

    2458.       libralady
    5152 posts
     07 Feb 2009 Sat 01:03 am

    Tom Jones on Jonathan Ross - finally he has stopped dying his hair {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2459.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     07 Feb 2009 Sat 01:42 am

    http://www.cooliris.com/

     

    Simply amazing..



    Edited (2/7/2009) by thehandsom

    2460.       alameda
    3499 posts
     07 Feb 2009 Sat 02:09 am

    A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:

     

    Myth: we have to save the earth. Frankly, the earth doesn´t need to be saved. Nature doesn´t give a hoot if human beings are here or not. The planet has survived cataclysmic and catastrophic changes for millions upon millions of years. Over that time, it is widely believed, 99 percent of all species have come and gone while the planet has remained. Saving the environment is really about saving our environment - making it safe for ourselves, our children, and the world as we know it. If more people saw the issue as one of saving themselves, we would probably see increased motivation and commitment to actually do so.

     

    -Robert M. Lilienfeld, management consultant and author (b. 1953) and William L. Rathje, archaeologist and author (b. 1945)

    2461.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 12:50 am

    Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan. Peace loving Talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is

     

    "We have beheaded the Polish engineer after the government failed to meet our demands and we will not hand over his body," a Taliban spokesman said by telephone.

     

    more...

    2462.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 02:36 am

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

     that was a response to dd`s idiotic post. if we have to call smn idiot, that should be you and dd.

     

    You´re losing distance tami, idiots are the talibans who thought that capturing a Polish engineer will influence Pakistani government to let out 60 goat-shagging bearded men with a passion for making everyone do their way

    2463.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 04:49 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan. Peace loving Talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is

     

     I have to say this comment is racist too, what this has to do with Islam?



    Edited (2/9/2009) by armegon

    2464.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 04:56 am

    cool, it seems like my last post is deleted although peacetrain`s post in which she called me idiot is still there. so I`m telling it again; it was all about your nazist anti islam propaganda.



    Edited (2/9/2009) by tamikidakika
    Edited (2/9/2009) by tamikidakika

    2465.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 05:32 am

    Guys, that really wasnt needed at all ! 

    No need to exchange insults, and firing at each other for something we agree about !

     

    DD, you know that was nothing to deal with Ýslam ´you said it many times before that people do things in the name of Ýslam and call it Ýslam ´ so that comment wasnt needed at all.

    Tami, of course a life of a person no matter who or what he is, is valuable specially he did nothing and not a part in a fair fight or whatever.

    And if those people knew how to be what they claim to be ´Muslims´ they wouldnt have done it...its forbidden in Ýslam to kill innocent people for nothing !

     

    So can we have peace here please specially there is nothing to disagree about?!

     

    Just dropped by for a few..so good night guys

     



    Edited (2/9/2009) by CANLI [saying goodnight i´ve already missed the movie i was watching ]

    2466.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 07:55 am

    Iraqi shoe thrower could get 15 years

    The journalist who threw his shoes at former U.S. President George W. Bush will face trial on 19 February for assaulting a visiting head of state, with a maximum 15-year prison term, a court official said yesterday.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraqi-shoe-thrower-could-get-15-years-1604656.html

     

     

    2467.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 08:08 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    Iraqi shoe thrower could get 15 years

    The journalist who threw his shoes at former U.S. President George W. Bush will face trial on 19 February for assaulting a visiting head of state, with a maximum 15-year prison term, a court official said yesterday.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraqi-shoe-thrower-could-get-15-years-1604656.html

     

     

     

    america`s democratic iraq! 15 years at abu guraib{#lang_emotions_scared}



    Edited (2/9/2009) by tamikidakika

    2468.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 08:19 am

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    cool, it seems like my last post is deleted although peacetrain`s post in which she called me idiot is still there. so I`m telling it again; it was all about your nazist anti islam propaganda.

     

     Seems my post is deleted too, but I´m not crying.

     

    btw I am not anti islam and don´t agree with the tone of DD´s posts either. I think Canli´s comments are right. 

     



    Edited (2/9/2009) by peacetrain

    2469.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 09:52 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan. Peace loving Talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is

     

    "We have beheaded the Polish engineer after the government failed to meet our demands and we will not hand over his body," a Taliban spokesman said by telephone.

     

    more...

     

    This is a fair comment..

    Of course it has everything got to do with islam!!

    What makes people think it has not?

    what makes people think their version of islam is more true than taliban´s?

    Taliban thinks they are at war and this is ´jihad´ for them and they are following the rules of Islam in purest form..

    2470.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 09:56 am

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     

     Seems my post is deleted too, but I´m not crying.

     

    btw I am not anti islam and don´t agree with the tone of DD´s posts either. I think Canli´s comments are right. 

     

     

    I saw your post before I went to bed PT..It was your politeness to use the word stupid only.

    And it was a quite ´light´ adjective, considering rawness and vulgarity of the post you were replying to.

     

    2471.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 09:59 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    This is a fair comment..

    Of course it has everything got to do with islam!!

    What makes people think it has not?

    what makes people think their version of islam is more true than taliban´s?

    Taliban thinks they are at war and this is ´jihad´ for them and they are following the rules of Islam in purest form..

     

    what makes people think their version of christianity is more true than of Bush?

    wasn`t it Bush who declared crusade and genocided 1 million of Muslims?

    2472.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:04 am

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    what makes people think their version of christianity is more true than of Bush?

    wasn`t it Bush who declared crusade and genocided 1 million of Muslims?

     

    You dont get it!!!

    Once more I will repeat it for you!!:

    IRAQ WAR FOR NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGIONS!!!

    It was political and it has much to do with oil and money!!

    2473.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:23 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    You dont get it!!!

    Once more I will repeat it for you!!:

    IRAQ WAR FOR NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGIONS!!!

    It was political and it has much to do with oil and money!!

    It`s apparent that you know nothing about what`s going on in America and Iraq. The Iraq war was a psychologic war which had nothing to do with oil. if it had been for oil, the oil prices would be lower now, but it`s not! Do you know that there are millions of voters in America who would be happy like crazy if america nuked the middle east and killed all the muslims there? Who do you think chose Bush twice to presidency? It`s all about demand and supply. there was a demand for "revenge" and Bush just tried to supply that with the Iraq war and it made him stay at presidency for one more term.

     

    2474.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:37 am

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

    It`s apparent that you know nothing about what`s going on in America and Iraq. The Iraq war was a psychologic war which had nothing to do with oil. if it had been for oil, the oil prices would be lower now, but it`s not! Do you know that there are millions of voters in America who would be happy like crazy if america nuked the middle east and killed all the muslims there? Who do you think chose Bush twice to presidency? It`s all about demand and supply. there was a demand for "revenge" and Bush just tried to supply that with the Iraq war and it made him stay at presidency for one more term.

     

     

    Really? lol

    Look... The right wing think-tank had already decided to attack Iraq even before Bush came into presidency..

    It WAS the administration made the decision and spent huge amount effort to persuade the public ´9/11 got something to do with Iraq´. Public was led to believe in that..But of course, in reality 9/11 or al qaide had NOTHING to do with Iraq.

    You should read abit more about it..

    2475.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:40 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Really? lol

    Look... The right wing think-tank had already decided to attack Iraq even before Bush came into presidency..

    It WAS the administration made the decision and spent huge amount effort to persuade the public ´9/11 got something to do with Iraq´. Public was led to believe in that..But of course, in reality 9/11 or al qaide had NOTHING to do with Iraq.

    You should read abit more about it..

     

    so how does this refute what I said? you`re just supporting my argument by saying that "public was led to believe in that". that`s exactly what I said. You should try to understand what you read first.



    Edited (2/9/2009) by tamikidakika

    2476.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 02:31 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    what makes people think their version of christianity is more true than of Bush?

    wasn`t it Bush who declared crusade and genocided 1 million of Muslims?

     

    Tami tami tami, as usual you´re unable to see things from a perspective. Bush´s crusade that you quote so eagerly was a metaphor (a hyperbole). If it was a real crusade then the US and EU armies would hold a flag with the sign of cross, would allow only Christians among them and would destroy mosques to build churches there. Nothing like that happened, the Iraqi community didn´t have a choice - either you convert or you die. So what do you mean by crusade?

     

    My comment was meant to be sarcastic - of course I know not all Muslims are like those freaks. Reading words from Canli or Alameda here, it´s hard for me to believe that they share their religion as they don´t seem a bit like Talibans (however reading tami´s yesterda´s comment I started to wonder if it´s not piloting planes that he studies in the US). The point of my comment was to draw attention to how a bunch of mental goat-shaggers can give bad press to Islam.

     

    Personally I consider all religious bases of the big three (Islam, Christianity, Judaism) alike, there´s violence in hteir HOly Books, and they´re all interpreted as one pleases. The difference however (in my opinion) is that whilst Christianity stopped its violent aera and nowadays you´re likely to see the raidicals protest with parades and transparents, Islamic radicals still kidnap, murder and are proud of this. Again, I´m not saying that Christianity is great - I´m not a believer, but it´s definitely less cruel in its radical form nowadays than Islam. Islamic radicals are like Christians in the Middle Ages

    2477.       libralady
    5152 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 02:40 pm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7873081.stm

     

    I watched a programme last night on BBC called Explore. Last nights episode was all in Turkey, and was extrememly interesting and informative.  Take a look at the article above that accompanies one section of the documentary about how Turkish muslims are living today.  That is from the devote Muslim girl buying a wig to cover her scarf so that she can go to uni, or the boar hunting / pork eating muslims in the mountains.

    2478.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 04:02 pm

    These were the days..................................How I loved to dance..............

     

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kctz_semino-rossi-no-mas-boleros-2006-li_music

    2479.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 05:39 pm

    Freakish weather.... floods, snow here, bush fires and 40+ heat in Australia....  it is lucky I am not religious, it is all sounding a bit biblical! lol

     

    What next?  pestilence?

    2480.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 05:48 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Freakish weather.... floods, snow here, bush fires and 40+ heat in Australia....  it is lucky I am not religious, it is all sounding a bit biblical! lol

     

    What next?  pestilence?

     

     i know..... the locusts are coming!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

    2481.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 07:14 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Freakish weather.... floods, snow here, bush fires and 40+ heat in Australia....  it is lucky I am not religious, it is all sounding a bit biblical! lol

     

    What next?  pestilence?

     

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     i know..... the locusts are coming!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

     

    Don´t forget about frogs! Luckily for me they´re unlikely to trudge through sno...ribbit...ribbit

    2482.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 07:29 pm

     First, i decided not to respond to these posts, but i cant stand hypocracy really...

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    This is a fair comment...

     

    What a fair comment!!That post was racist for sure, trying to show all muslims as taliban terrorists. I dont know why its still there and what its aim rather than provoking.

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Of course it has everything got to do with islam!!

    What makes people think it has not?

    what makes people think their version of islam is more true than taliban´s?

    Taliban thinks they are at war and this is ´jihad´ for them and they are following the rules of Islam in purest form..

     

    If talibans are following the rules of Islam, the what others doing? Did Islam begin to differ after 2001? Then all states whose citizens follow Islam throughout the history, were all terrorist sates. What an expression "taliban thinks they are at war and this is jihad..." like "US thinks they are at war with Islamic states and this is crusade for them and they are following the rules of judeo-christianity in purest form." The thing you and DD cannot perceive, all of this are mainly political.

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    It was political and it has much to do with oil and money!!

     

     , if theirs were political just about money, then what taliban doing is also political because they dont want foreign soldiers  in Afghanistan and they want the country to be ruled with their perverted mentality, simply they want power & government which is political too, just they use religion to collect fans like west using anti-Islam propogand to collect fans.

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    as usual you´re unable to see things from a perspective.

    Your perspective is excellent, labelling everyone who follows Islam as taliban terrorists. What a perspective of hatres this is!!

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    If it was a real crusade then the US and EU armies would hold a flag with the sign of cross, would allow only Christians among them and would destroy mosques to build churches there.

     

    So what? I can say the same thing by the side of muslims. If all muslims like taliban, for sure they have now 2 billion of fans and millions of soldiers but not.  And as i said before if you blame Islam the whole religion, so dont surprised that when somebody blamed the whole west politics who are mainly christian states.

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

     

    My comment was meant to be sarcastic

     Your comment was racist and provoking simply...

     

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     The point of my comment was to draw attention to how a bunch of mental goat-shaggers can give bad press to Islam.

     

     

    Oh yeah, bad twisting for sure, you first put all muslims in the same bag with taliban then you restricted this to only a bunch of mental goat-shaggers. And you expect us to swallow this hypocracy, so then im right, your post proved racist and provoking rather than sarcastic.

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     The difference however (in my opinion) is that whilst Christianity stopped its violent aera and nowadays you´re likely to see the raidicals protest with parades and transparents, Islamic radicals still kidnap, murder and are proud of this.

     

    Ohh really? We saw the invaders in Iraq who killed millions of people, they were very good at bombing mosques, raping women, torturing people and it seems they were very proud of this. So you can say they are not christians ok then im saying Taliban has nothing to do with Islam. Hmmm maybe those invaders then irreligious like you as you dont want them to be related with christianity, they killed lots of muslims, then you can be proud of them.  They cleared those religous muslim insects, didnt they? You should be happy.

    Quoting Daydreamer

     Again, I´m not saying that Christianity is great - I´m not a believer, but it´s definitely less cruel in its radical form nowadays than Islam. Islamic radicals are like Christians in the Middle Ages

     

    What a generosity!! Then there were no radicals using Islam in middle ages or before 2001. Hmmm i wonder where were those radicals? Maybe they fell into world after 2001.

    2483.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 07:36 pm

    On a Dutch forum (sorry, no English link) I read this: People reject 50 TL bank notes with the picture of Fatma Aliye Haným (the only woman on bank notes) because ´she´s a woman!´

     

    How ´modern´ is Turkey when things like that still happen? (A group on Facebook  called ´I don´t want this woman on my money´ already has 160.000 members - so it´s not just a few who think like this!)

    2484.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    On a Dutch forum (sorry, no English link) I read this: People reject 50 TL bank notes with the picture of Fatma Aliye Haným (the only woman on bank notes) because ´she´s a woman!´

     

    How ´modern´ is Turkey when things like that still happen? (A group on Facebook  called ´I don´t want this woman on my money´ already has 160.000 members - so it´s not just a few who think like this!)

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    people dont want that money not bacuse Fatma Aliye was a woman but because she was hostile to Ataturk.

     

    you again proved how low your countrymen can get. You could have at least checked out that facebook group before posting to see what their point is.

     

     

    How modern is your beloved country with all these nazi scums?



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    2485.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 08:58 pm

    What you missed out is the fact that I did not put all Muslims in one bag, au contraire - I commented on how radicals make the world perceive Islam. If you find that comment racist, fine by me, I´m not ashamed to call anybody who murders people hostile. If you consider Talibans peaceful farmers then perhaps you should read more about them.

     

    It´s not close to truth to say that the US is a Christian country on religious crusade in Iraq, don´t omit to see the difference - all Talibs are Muslim, not all Americans are Christian. The US does not have an alias "The Christian States of America" while Taliban regime was also known as "Islamic Emirate of Aghanistan" (quoting after Wikipedia). Also do I have to elaborate on how Muslims are free to practise their religion anywhere in what you call Christian countries but Talibans were not fans of religious freedom? Still seeing Talibans as having nothing to do with religion in contrast to the US? Then how about the US law standing in opposition to Christian rules? Abortion etc?

     

    True about Talibans wanting power - but it is power to introduce religious dictatorship. The US, however unlawfully and revolting actions they took invading Iraq, do not want to introduce poor pagans to Christianity by means of decapitation. It is about power and dominance from both sides for sure, but whilst Talibans are about religion, the US is not.

     

    As for me seeing all Muslims the same as Talibans - that´s not true and I wrote it quite clearly, sorry if you werent able to interpret my words although they were quite straightforward. I´m not going to prove that I´m not a camel to you.

     

    Again, I´m not proud of what the US and UN did in Iraq or Afghanistan, or in Bosnia for that matter. You still haven;´t answered my question - how come the western army that you want to believe is Christian is composed of people of many religions? That must shatter your idea of the "bed Christian west"

     

    I have no idea where Islamic radicals were - I just commented that if we compare religious radicals these days, Islamic ones are way more violent.

     

     

     

    2486.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 09:08 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I saw your post before I went to bed PT..It was your politeness to use the word stupid only.

    And it was a quite ´light´ adjective, considering rawness and vulgarity of the post you were replying to.

     

     

     Well I think the word I used was "idiot".  It is easy for me to check this because, although my post was deleted (I don´t care) Tam kindly quoted me, so it is there for all to see. Thanks Tam .

     

      Actually, I find "stupid" and "idiot" very strong words .  They´re not words I particularly like, so for me they aren´t so "light".  Well it upset Tam anyway.

    2487.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 09:47 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     

     Well I think the word I used was "idiot".  It is easy for me to check this because, although my post was deleted (I don´t care) Tam kindly quoted me, so it is there for all to see. Thanks Tam .

     

      Actually, I find "stupid" and "idiot" very strong words .  They´re not words I particularly like, so for me they aren´t so "light".  Well it upset Tam anyway.

     

    I agree with you..I would not want to use those straight away either.

    But sometimes, there is no other way to respond really..!

    2488.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 09:52 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     What a fair comment!!That post was racist for sure, trying to show all muslims as taliban terrorists. I dont know why its still there and what its aim rather than provoking.

     

    I said fair comment because, she was pointing at the harsh parts of Islam and she was right. I think her comment should stay as it is

     

    Quote:

    If talibans are following the rules of Islam, the what others doing? Did Islam begin to differ after 2001? Then all states whose citizens follow Islam throughout the history, were all terrorist sates. What an expression "taliban thinks they are at war and this is jihad..." like "US thinks they are at war with Islamic states and this is crusade for them and they are following the rules of judeo-christianity in purest form." The thing you and DD cannot perceive, all of this are mainly political.

     

     

    What others doing? of course they are not following the  orders of Qur <[script] src="../../js/tiny_mce/themes/advanced/langs/en.js" type="text/javascript"> an..

    Basically, islamic doctrine in Turkey is a not as the same as the doctrine in which Taliban believes (thanks god)...

    You can not accuse Taliban as non-muslims because they are following the rules of Quran. But they can accuse you for not being  muslim enough (which I know they do! ).. 

    How?  

    are you living with sheria? NO...

    Are you fighting for sheria? NO.

    Do you wish to live with sheria? NO (you may say yes but then you will be betraying to Turkey)

    Sheria is the ultime doctrine Quran says you should live with!! You have no choice!! You got to follow..

    You can NOT question it..can you?

    But you prefer  not to follow..do you NOT? 

    So.. stop trying to put barrier between Islam and what Taliban is doing!

    (did We NOT talk about this before btw?)..

     

    And why is Islam in Turkey is different?

    Well it is another story..

    We have a country that has been between the west and the east.. We have influenced the west and the west has influenced us for many centuries.. We have lived with so many different kaffirs for many many years..

    The tolerance become part of Anatolian people´s character ...

    Although many wont like to hear that but "our version" of Islam is much more peaceful and more different than most of the middle east and eastern countries..

     

    Quote:

    , if theirs were political just about money, then what taliban doing is also political because they dont want foreign soldiers  in Afghanistan and they want the country to be ruled with their perverted mentality, simply they want power & government which is political too, just they use religion to collect fans like west using anti-Islam propogand to collect fans.

     

     

     For Taliban, I dont think it matters to be fighting for Afghanistan or not..

    They are fighting for religion..That is the part of reason how you could find many taliban members in Iraq, in Checenya, Bosnia etc..

    They are fighting for what they believe.. 




    Edited (2/9/2009) by thehandsom

    2489.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:32 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    What you missed out is the fact that I did not put all Muslims in one bag, au contraire - I commented on how radicals make the world perceive Islam. If you find that comment racist, fine by me, I´m not ashamed to call anybody who murders people hostile. If you consider Talibans peaceful farmers then perhaps you should read more about them.

     

    Im not missing anything. I just showed your hypocracy. Thats not about how they make the world perceive Islam, thats about how western media want to perceive Islam and my post is about how you perceive Islam. And of course taliban is helping them as well as US helping talibans. Islam is nobody’s monopoly. Nobody here approves what taliban has been doing by a difference that people like you try to show them as they are the real representatives of Islam and provoking people. Thats what make people to hate eachother. And you are one of the clear example of this provocateurs.

    Quoting Daydreamer

    It´s not close to truth to say that the US is a Christian country on religious crusade in Iraq, don´t omit to see the difference - all Talibs are Muslim, not all Americans are Christian. The US does not have an alias "The Christian States of America" while Taliban regime was also known as "Islamic Emirate of Aghanistan" (quoting after Wikipedia). Also do I have to elaborate on how Muslims are free to practise their religion anywhere in what you call Christian countries but Talibans were not fans of religious freedom? Still seeing Talibans as having nothing to do with religion in contrast to the US? Then how about the US law standing in opposition to Christian rules? Abortion etc?

     

    You yourself call them as christian countries and still asking me why do i call them christians? Let me explain because citizens of those countries are mainly christians, its not important if they follow christianity or not and who said Talibans are real muslims except themselves and western media? By the way what this has to do with the freedom of religion? We are talking about terrorists(both US and taliban). Turkey is also secular country, and population mostly muslims. Now think about if Turkey to invade and kill christians in a country whose population is mostly christian, then what will people say? For sure theyll say muslim Turks killing christians. In addition taliban is not on all power in Afghanistan, they are also killing Afghan soldiers who call themselves muslims as well. So where do we put this?

    Quoting Daydreamer 

    True about Talibans wanting power - but it is power to introduce religious dictatorship. The US, however unlawfully and revolting actions they took invading Iraq, do not want to introduce poor pagans to Christianity by means of decapitation. It is about power and dominance from both sides for sure, but whilst Talibans are about religion, the US is not.

     

    So its political of course. Its not important if they use religion or not, both killing human-beings. By the way there is big difference between them, one of them invades countries, other is killing its own people to apply their perverted mentality, actually its their country. Recently i havent seen any Islamic state invading a chrisitian country, on the other hand we witness the contrariwise.

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    As for me seeing all Muslims the same as Talibans - that´s not true and I wrote it quite clearly, sorry if you werent able to interpret my words although they were quite straightforward. I´m not going to prove that I´m not a camel to you. 

     

    What you write is clear, let me remind “Peace loving talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is”. So what people understand from this provoking comment? Of course the one i understood, after then you twisted changes nothing. This actually shows your sincerety.

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I have no idea where Islamic radicals were - I just commented that if we compare religious radicals these days, Islamic ones are way more violent.

    Actually i think irreligous states like US are far more violent than those radicals and thats the one who made them radicals ...

    2490.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:40 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     They are fighting for what they believe.. 


     

    Everybody fights for what they believe thehandsom, dont try to cover the hypocracy of DD...

    And you need to learn Islam for sure{#lang_emotions_razz}...

    2491.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 11:03 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I agree with you..I would not want to use those straight away either.

    But sometimes, there is no other way to respond really..!

     

     Sometimes I get really annoyed and use even worse language e.g. "silly", "naughty", and "ninkumpoop"

    2492.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 11:04 pm

    As usual, I say A and you read B lol

     

    Where did I call the US a christian country? In the fragment where I typed "what you call a Christian country?" The phrase "what you call" does not imply me saying it is so but rather reinstating your point.

     

    You may consider me a hypocrite, that definitely won´t deprive me of sleep, I just wonder where you have this idea from - I say:

     

    “Peace loving talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is

     

    meaning that those mental morons show what they stand for - they call themselves Muslims so that´s the message they send. You read it "All the Muslims are mental killers" I didn´t write anything like that, but you´re free to grow your bias as you please. And yes, the fact that they stand against other Muslims who do not believe it´s Allah´s will to kill people around, speaks for itself.

     

    Applying your logic (or the lack of it) the world knows no secular countries. How about defining what a secular country is? The fact that the state does not interfere into religion of an individual, the fact that it by constitution grants equal rights to its citizens is not a quality of secularism? Finally that country´s army is composed of people of different faiths/religions and fighting for what´s best for their country - not in the terms of religion but money, power, influence - is not another quality of secularism?

     

    If we further apply your perversed logic, then your argument about "Muslim" (in your understanding) countries not invading "Christian" countries is proven wrong - look at Christian Serbia losing it´s oldest part to "Muslim" Albania.

     

    I think the only sentence of your rethorics I agree with is that irreligious countries like the US are guilty and are more violent than religious regimes in the east. But still, I don´t consider it Christian invasion but a superpower invasion in order to gain control in the east. Yet, The US and EU are killing Iraqis NOT because they´re Muslims. Talibans on the other hand kill both "infidels" and those whom they do not consider Muslim enough for religious reasons - no, not exclusively, of course there are other factors as well but their religious fanatism is something that makes them not only shepards with guns.

     

     

    2493.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Feb 2009 Mon 11:49 pm

     

     

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    meaning that those mental morons show what they stand for - they call themselves Muslims so that´s the message they send. You read it "All the Muslims are mental killers" I didn´t write anything like that, but you´re free to grow your bias as you please. And yes, the fact that they stand against other Muslims who do not believe it´s Allah´s will to kill people around, speaks for itself. 

    Do you really know Islam is the religion of 2 billion people not the monopoly of taliban? Its how people understood when you identified taliban with Islam, not only me but also CANLI and other members understood like this, so i guess nothing wrong with me

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    If we further apply your perversed logic, then your argument about "Muslim" (in your understanding) countries not invading "Christian" countries is proven wrong - look at Christian Serbia losing it´s oldest part to "Muslim" Albania.

    I dont remember Muslim Albania(btw Albania is not mainly muslim) killing Christian Serbia´s citizens, on the other hand i remember Christian Serbia massacring Muslim Bosnians...

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Talibans on the other hand kill both "infidels" and those whom they do not consider Muslim enough for religious reasons - no, not exclusively, of course there are other factors as well but their religious fanatism is something that makes them not only shepards with guns.

     

     

     

    Taliban calling everyone infidel who dont think exactly like them. But Iraqi civlians were killed because they were seen as muslim terrorists that shows US brainwashed people clearly...

    2494.       libralady
    5152 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 12:08 am

    What caught my eye!  Is that the name of this thread or is it now devoted to discussion about the merits of the Taliban??  I hope not!{#lang_emotions_get_you}

    2495.       armegon
    1872 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 12:26 am

     

    Quoting libralady

    What caught my eye!  Is that the name of this thread or is it now devoted to discussion about the merits of the Taliban??  I hope not!{#lang_emotions_get_you}

     

     Sorry ...

    2496.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 01:21 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    DD,

     

     

     

     

    No, it wasn´t the death of a Pole that struck me, it was actually the comment Tami made about now there being one less hillbilly, which proves your theory about them not being sorry for human life at all.

    I have no wish to run a campaign to make blinded people see, I know how I feel about it and I know now how they do. There´s no point of debating with people defending killers. I don´t care if Armegon an Tami have posters with bearded guys on their walls, I don´t care what ideology they support. The only thing I´m glad about is that I don´t share their fascination and understanding for killers. They may call me racist, it sounds like a compliment from the mouth of people defending such actions. Let them lie in bed thinking with awe about how Islam is going to prevail and all bed westerners will be beheaded, those remaining at life will be veiled and they´ll be able to spend their life happily waiting for the "grapes" in heaven {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

    A surely has a selective memory - he remembers Serbians murdering Bosnians, but fails to see that what he calls Christian Europe and US sent their troops to help those poor Muslims. Now it puts bed Christians willing to do away with peaceful Muslims in a bit different light, doesn´t it?



    Edited (2/11/2009) by Daydreamer [censoring Femme´s quote]

    2497.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 03:01 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     

     

    +100000000

     

    Where are the, so-called, moderate Muslims when other Muslims are committing hideous crimes in the name of their religion? Is they don´t act according to the religious dogma, why is nobody protesting this, speaking out against it. Silence is tacit approval.

     

    There´s been not a single protest, single demonstration against suicide bombings in Muslim countries (that I know of). Why? Muslisms die too from the hands of suicide bombers, don´t they?

     

    Sure you can talk about the evils of war brought on by the US, but the truth is, there´re people who are speaking against it, protesting, disagreeing with it (even though it has little or nothing to do with religion), who sympathize and empathize with the Muslims that suffer, even if there´s not much they can do themselves to stop it. Where are the Muslims who speak out against the evils committed by other Muslims against both Muslims and non-Muslims?

     

    And to behead somebody like this, you have to be a beast, an animal, a thing that´s lower than a human being. They are sick psychopaths. They make me want to throw up.

     

    And, no, not every criticism of the actions of Muslims is an attack on the religion. Besides, if you don´t want your religion criticised, then don´t use it and don´t allow people to use it to cover up murderous, hineous acts.



    Edited (2/10/2009) by Melek74 [Cleaned up the spelling errors]
    Edited (2/11/2009) by Melek74

    2498.       armegon
    1872 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 05:31 pm

    DD, stop talking nonsense and stop performing histrionics, your silly comments as usual started this discussion. Firstly you should hear what you are saying while you are sprinkling salivas from your mouth. Actually you are the one here worthless to debate, your hatred made you stony hearted and disrespectful. Nobody defended killers, but from the comments you made here, it is clearly understood that you see all muslims as terrorists, and its not the first time. I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...

    2499.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 05:42 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    +100000000

     

    Where are the, so-called, moderate Muslims when other Muslims are committing hideous crimes in the name of their religion? Is they don´t act according to the religious dogma, why is nobody protesting this, speaking out against it. Silence is tacit approval.

     

    There´s been not a single protest, single demonstration against suicide bombings in Muslim countries (that I know of). Why? Muslisms die too from the hands of suicide bombers, don´t they?

     

    Sure you can talk about the evils of war brought on by the US, but the truth is, there´re people who are speaking against it, protesting, disagreeing with it (even though it has little or nothing to do with religion), who sympathize and empathize with the Muslims that suffer, even if there´s not much they can do themselves to stop it. Where are the Muslims who speak out against the evils committed by other Muslims against both Muslims and non-Muslims?

     

    And to behead somebody like this, you have to be a beast, an animal, a thing that´s lower than a human being. They are sick psychopaths. They make me want to throw up.

     

    And, no, not every criticism of the actions of Muslims is an attack on the religion. Besides, if you don´t want your religion criticised, then don´t use it and don´t allow people to use it to cover up murderous, hineous acts.

     

     All of this post: + 100000000 but especially the highlighted sentence!



    Edited (2/10/2009) by Trudy [Spelling]

    2500.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 05:50 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    ..I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...

     

    Come on man..

    After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..

    2501.       armegon
    1872 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 06:01 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Come on man..

    After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..

     

    thehandsom, þu buraya yazdýklarýnýn yenilecek yutulacak savunulacak yaný yok özellikle de son mesajýnýn sen de hala onu savunacaðým diye çýrpýnýyorsun, þaþýyorum vallahi...

    2502.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 06:13 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Come on man..

    After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..

     

    just like the kurds celebrate the pkk terrorism in the streets?

    2503.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 11:19 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Come on man..

    After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..

     

    Well, I guess you could say the same of some of those lovely Christian Americans after each killing of an Iraqi....the only difference is that the "terrorism" from them is legalised

    2504.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 11:37 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    , which proves your theory about them not being sorry for human life at all.

     

     What do you mean by ´them´ ? Who are ´them´?



    Edited (2/10/2009) by CANLI

    2505.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 11:40 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    DD, stop talking nonsense and stop performing histrionics, your silly comments as usual started this discussion. Firstly you should hear what you are saying while you are sprinkling salivas from your mouth. Actually you are the one here worthless to debate, your hatred made you stony hearted and disrespectful. Nobody defended killers, but from the comments you made here, it is clearly understood that you see all muslims as terrorists, and its not the first time. I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...

     

    Thank you for your concern, but I have no speech impediment taht I´m aware of so I´m not "sprinkling salivas"

     

    lol I may say it a million times that I don´t perceive all Muslims as terrorists, and that I´m commenting on radicals only as they´re the ones that give Islam bad press - and you still blab cannot get it. I condemned Israel´s action as well but you use cheap rhetorics to portray me otherwise. Lovely. I apparently do not fit into your idea of biased European. Accept it, it is never black-and-white and people are free to comment on the greyness in the world. The fact that I consider psychos psychos and the fact that they call themselves warriors of Islam is enough to understand my comment. They send a message about how peaceful their religion is -> if you are a Muslim thinking differently then you definitely do your best to hide it.

     

    argh I´m sure you still understand my post as "all Muslims are bad murderers" {#lang_emotions_head_bang} I can´t make you see that´s not the point so I don´t think I´ll be wasting my time on pointless debates...

    2506.       alameda
    3499 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 11:44 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    Well, I guess you could say the same of some of those lovely Christian Americans after each killing of an Iraqi....the only difference is that the "terrorism" from them is legalised

     

     Is it really? I wonder what the Geneva Conventions & protocols have to say about it?

     

    This whole damned war mess is hideous!

    2507.       libralady
    5152 posts
     10 Feb 2009 Tue 11:45 pm

    Could eveyone stop posting their thoughts about terrorism etc on this thread.

     

    Thanks

    2508.       armegon
    1872 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 12:58 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Thank you for your concern, but I have no speech impediment taht I´m aware of so I´m not "sprinkling salivas"

     

    lol I may say it a million times that I don´t perceive all Muslims as terrorists, and that I´m commenting on radicals only as they´re the ones that give Islam bad press - and you still blab cannot get it. I condemned Israel´s action as well but you use cheap rhetorics to portray me otherwise. Lovely. I apparently do not fit into your idea of biased European. Accept it, it is never black-and-white and people are free to comment on the greyness in the world. The fact that I consider psychos psychos and the fact that they call themselves warriors of Islam is enough to understand my comment. They send a message about how peaceful their religion is -> if you are a Muslim thinking differently then you definitely do your best to hide it.

     

    argh I´m sure you still understand my post as "all Muslims are bad murderers" {#lang_emotions_head_bang} I can´t make you see that´s not the point so I don´t think I´ll be wasting my time on pointless debates...

     

    The only one blabing here is you, and as i said this is not the first time of your blabbing, not only me perceived like this now and before.  Actually you are one of the best product of west´s Islam hating propogand like the soldiers in Iraq so fit into my idea very well. I dont try to hide anything i clearly say Islam is noones monopoly thus they dont represent Islam, nothing matters whatever they call themselves but you still equating these terrorists with Islam and you use your cheap rhetorics to portray me as we have posters of those terrorists. Its good way to show how you see muslims. It gives good clues about your personality. How a sick mentality portray people like this, where i defended those terrorists?  Also my illustration is just a respond to your mentality as i equated you with those Israelis.

     

    Theres nothing wrong in my understanding, it is understood how it should be understood. Btw these pointless debates luckily always started by these provoking mentalities, so get over it...

     



    Edited (2/11/2009) by armegon [spelling]

    2509.       armegon
    1872 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 12:59 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     What do you mean by ´them´ ? Who are ´them´?

     

     you, me and other insects

    2510.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 11:34 am

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     you, me and other insects

     

     Congratulations on your 1000th post Armegon.  You receive a Turkish Class pen, an "I love Aenigma" Tshirt, a mug and complimentary once in a lifetime day-pass into the Mod/Admin´s Washroom {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

    2511.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 01:39 pm

     

    Modern Britons addicted to Facebook

    Wednesday, February 11 02:13 am

    Coffee, chocolate and and social networking site Facebook are the most common addictions in the UK, a study into modern lifestyles has revealed

    Modern Britons are addicted to Facebook, a survey shows

    These modern vices have ousted traditional favourites such as drugs, sex and cigarettes from the top of the charts in a study on our behavioural patterns.

    The poll examined the lifestyles of 3,000 people aged under 30.

    The study coincides with the launch of Rehab, a programme examining rehabilitation and addiction on the Living channel.

    Respondents were quizzed on substances and habits they spent the most money on, those they had previously attempted to cut down on or give up and the modern impulses ruling lives in 2009.

    Coffee tops the list of the 10 most common modern addictions, followed by chocolate consumption with Facebook in third place.

    The much railed against vices of alcohol and drugs didn´t even make the top 10 addictions.

    And the spectre of the credit crunch looms menacingly over the survey with the practice of checking bank accounts coming in as fifth most common addiction.

    Vanity was a more traditional popular vice with beauty products scooping fourth most common addiction.

    Rehab can be seen on Living on Wednesday, February 11 at 9pm

     

     

     

    OMG I am addicted to all three....there is no hope for me



    Edited (2/11/2009) by lessluv [poking someone on facebook, making a coffee and opening my bar of chocolate!]

    2512.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 02:47 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    The only one blabing here is you, and as i said this is not the first time of your blabbing, not only me perceived like this now and before.  Actually you are one of the best product of west´s Islam hating propogand like the soldiers in Iraq so fit into my idea very well. I dont try to hide anything i clearly say Islam is noones monopoly thus they dont represent Islam, nothing matters whatever they call themselves but you still equating these terrorists with Islam and you use your cheap rhetorics to portray me as we have posters of those terrorists. Its good way to show how you see muslims. It gives good clues about your personality. How a sick mentality portray people like this, where i defended those terrorists?  Also my illustration is just a respond to your mentality as i equated you with those Israelis.

     

    Theres nothing wrong in my understanding, it is understood how it should be understood. Btw these pointless debates luckily always started by these provoking mentalities, so get over it...

     

     

    lol I knew you´d understand it like this lol Now what do I win for sixth sense? lol

    2513.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 02:53 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    lol I knew you´d understand it like this lol Now what do I win for sixth sense? lol

     

     all out of "I love aenigma" pens..... Your prize ....a date with Colin Fry?{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     

     

     

    http://www.colinfry.com/seecolinlive.html

     

     

     

     



    Edited (2/11/2009) by lessluv [added link to the spiritual world]

    2514.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 02:57 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     all out of "I love aenigma" pens..... Your prize ....a date with Colin Fry?{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     

     

     

    http://www.colinfry.com/seecolinlive.html

     

     

     

     

     

    ouch! That guy is scareyyyyy. I´ll take the pens though lol

    2515.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 03:08 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    ouch! That guy is scareyyyyy. I´ll take the pens though lol

     

     Heh Heh only got "I love Sui" ones left....not as popular ha ha

    2516.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 03:15 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     Heh Heh only got "I love Sui" ones left....not as popular ha ha

     

    You mean somebody bought out all "I love Two-Minute-Boy"?

     

    Well..if nobody wants those with Sui I´ll have 3 of them please. Do they come with the soundtrack from the "what are you listening to now" thread?

    2517.       cedars
    235 posts
     11 Feb 2009 Wed 04:35 pm

     

    The new knesset

    between parenthesis 2006 results

     

    2518.       armegon
    1872 posts
     12 Feb 2009 Thu 03:59 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Congratulations on your 1000th post Armegon.  You receive a Turkish Class pen, an "I love Aenigma" Tshirt, a mug and complimentary once in a lifetime day-pass into the Mod/Admin´s Washroom {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

     

     Thank you for your kindness, and please dont forget to sign the Tshirt then i won take it in all my life

    2519.       libralady
    5152 posts
     13 Feb 2009 Fri 03:35 pm

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/its-pc-gone-mad-how-did-taking-offence-become-a-national-obsession-1607060.html

     

    Taking offence has become a national sport for the UK and the slightest hint of an insult is now making headlines in the UK press and TV news.  This is a long and in places, very funny article about it.

     

    2520.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     13 Feb 2009 Fri 06:01 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/its-pc-gone-mad-how-did-taking-offence-become-a-national-obsession-1607060.html

     

    Taking offence has become a national sport for the UK and the slightest hint of an insult is now making headlines in the UK press and TV news.  This is a long and in places, very funny article about it.

     

     

    I thought this was incredibly funny - it made me laugh out loud at times.  Unfortunately I think only native English speakers or those with a very good command of the language will get the full humour of it. (sorry if I cause anyone any offence there {#lang_emotions_shy} 

    2521.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     13 Feb 2009 Fri 06:03 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    I thought this was incredibly funny - it made me laugh out loud at times.  Unfortunately I think only native English speakers or those with a very good command of the language will get the full humour of it. (sorry if I cause anyone any offence there {#lang_emotions_shy} 

     

     I feel so offended now! Who / what / where can I sue / get my revenge?

    2522.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     13 Feb 2009 Fri 06:43 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     I feel so offended now! Who / what / where can I sue / get my revenge?

     

     You can´t!  I already apologised - and I apologise if you didn´t realise that I had already apologised.



    Edited (2/14/2009) by lady in red

    2523.       libralady
    5152 posts
     13 Feb 2009 Fri 07:16 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    I thought this was incredibly funny - it made me laugh out loud at times.  Unfortunately I think only native English speakers or those with a very good command of the language will get the full humour of it. (sorry if I cause anyone any offence there {#lang_emotions_shy} 

     

     It is even funnier when you have seen the "bankers" on TV glibly trying to apologise for their "banking" mistakes ............. well we are sorry, was about the measure of it............

    2524.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 03:16 pm

    Spike Head Stand

     

     

    Li Xin Spike Head Stand

     

     

     

     

     

     

    2525.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 03:46 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Spike Head Stand

     

     

    Li Xin Spike Head Stand

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     We all know it isn´t you doing this brave act.... lol lol

    2526.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 04:30 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     We all know it isn´t you doing this brave act.... lol lol

     

    Do you think i should do this ´brave´ act?

    2527.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 04:32 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Do you think i should do this ´brave´ act?

     

     Not?

    2528.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 04:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Do you think i should do this ´brave´ act?

     

     Definitely!  Be careful though...someone may accidently push you down hard onto that nail

    2529.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 04:46 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     We all know it isn´t you doing this brave act.... lol lol

     

     unless someone went mad with a jar of wax and some cloth strips mwahaha{#lang_emotions_lol}

    2530.       libralady
    5152 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 06:24 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Spike Head Stand

     

     

    Li Xin Spike Head Stand

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     Ouch!  What a nutter................

     

    More like an act of stupidity than bravery {#lang_emotions_scared}



    Edited (2/15/2009) by libralady [Felt like using the modify button]

    2531.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 06:26 pm

    All the ´Meet Turkish girls´ - dating adds on the site from Google lately (I think I saw 5 different ones). No wonder so many dudu´s come to spam us!

    2532.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 07:50 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    All the ´Meet Turkish girls´ - dating adds on the site from Google lately (I think I saw 5 different ones). No wonder so many dudu´s come to spam us!

     

     Hmmm maybe I should "change tack" and start looking for a Turkish girl

    2533.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 07:51 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    All the ´Meet Turkish girls´ - dating adds on the site from Google lately (I think I saw 5 different ones). No wonder so many dudu´s come to spam us!

     

     Hmmm maybe I should "change tack" and start looking for a Turkish girl

    Maybe they would send me a laptop and cell phone...

    2534.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 07:53 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Hmmm maybe I should "change tack" and start looking for a Turkish girl

    Maybe they would send me a laptop and cell phone...

     

     Only when you keep us all informed about your dudu-istress.....

    2535.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Only when you keep us all informed about your dudu-istress.....

     

     Oki doki - will keep you posted on my results

    2536.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 07:55 pm

    Nobody having fun here lately...where is everyone?

    (Trudy excepted)

    2537.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 07:57 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Oki doki - will keep you posted on my results

     

     Daily!!!

    2538.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 08:14 pm

    THIS IS ANNOYING

    I notice that when I edit a post, the original appears on the "Latest Discussion Messages" which makes me look even more salak than I actually am! (Which is quite a lot!)

     

    Edit:  All seems ok now.... ooops



    Edited (2/15/2009) by TheAenigma

    2539.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 08:27 pm

    LIR is checking my profile...

    2540.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 08:56 pm

    Because he´s Gorgeous! (George Galloway)

     

    A convoy of more than 100 vehicles loaded with aid bound for the Gaza Strip left London on Saturday.The convoy, including 12 ambulances and a fire engine, is bearing more than one million pounds (1.4 million dollars, 1.1 million euros) worth of aid.

    The vehicles will travel 5,000 miles (8,000 kilometres) through France, Spain and North Africa, crossing from Egypt into Gaza at Rafah in early March.

    .....

    George Galloway.....We will lead the biggest convoy of British vehicles across North Africa since Montgomery."

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gUOqmqx9BgKn5rWER8qK3cRqBufg

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/.....galloway-because-youre-gorgeous-1622484.html

     

    2541.       libralady
    5152 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 09:07 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Because he´s Gorgeous! (George Galloway)

     

    A convoy of more than 100 vehicles loaded with aid bound for the Gaza Strip left London on Saturday.The convoy, including 12 ambulances and a fire engine, is bearing more than one million pounds (1.4 million dollars, 1.1 million euros) worth of aid.

    The vehicles will travel 5,000 miles (8,000 kilometres) through France, Spain and North Africa, crossing from Egypt into Gaza at Rafah in early March.

    .....

    George Galloway.....We will lead the biggest convoy of British vehicles across North Africa since Montgomery."

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gUOqmqx9BgKn5rWER8qK3cRqBufg

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/.....galloway-because-youre-gorgeous-1622484.html

     

     

     I am sorry but George Galloway is nothing more than a complete pratt!  Who has been seen  dancing around in tights on UK TV in celebrity Big Brother, and he lost all the credibility he had ever had and that was not much!!!! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    2542.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 09:24 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     I am sorry but George Galloway is nothing more than a complete pratt!  Who has been seen  dancing around in tights on UK TV in celebrity Big Brother, and he lost all the credibility he had ever had and that was not much!!!! {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

     

     And here is a reminder of his downfall! {#lang_emotions_puking}

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJ5rRPeFZ0&feature=related

     

     



    Edited (2/15/2009) by TheAenigma

    2543.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2009 Sun 09:29 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     And here is a reminder of his downfall! {#lang_emotions_puking}

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJ5rRPeFZ0&feature=related

     

     

     

     Wouldn´t he have lost more credibility if he was without tights? {#lang_emotions_puking}

    2544.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 01:48 am

    Drug helps ´erase bad memories´

    Fearful memories can be erased using a drug commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, research has shown.
    ....
    Strikingly, the effect appeared to be permanent. The spider fear seen in the initial experiment did not return to treated participants.

    http://www.google.com/hoste....PH6eejtN8cg
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new....rore-drugs-threaten-human-identity.html
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUKTRE51E1H520090215

     

    I will be volunteering for the tests

     

     

     

    2545.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 01:53 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Drug helps ´erase bad memories´

    Fearful memories can be erased using a drug commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, research has shown.
    ....
    Strikingly, the effect appeared to be permanent. The spider fear seen in the initial experiment did not return to treated participants.

    http://www.google.com/hoste....PH6eejtN8cg
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new....rore-drugs-threaten-human-identity.html
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUKTRE51E1H520090215

     

    I will be volunteering for the tests

     

     

     

     

     {#lang_emotions_rant}our memories weren´t that bad {#lang_emotions_lol}

     

     

     

     



    Edited (2/16/2009) by lessluv [Picture removed...... gave theH nightmares]

    2546.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 01:56 am

    I had problems with high blood pressure. I can tell you Labetalol does not erase anything. I still remember being cut open!

    2547.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 02:06 am

    I still remember a huge black stray dog confronting me  in the middle of the night on an empty road years ago or the joke, my sister put a white bed cloth on her and went ´boooo´ to me..

    Plus, I want to forget the movie ´jaws´..Because I always have shivers when I swim in deep waters..

    I was hoping I could forget them with that drug



    Edited (2/16/2009) by thehandsom [added more text]

    2548.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 02:13 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I still remember a huge black stray dog confronting me  in the middle of the night on an empty road years ago or the joke, my sister put a white bed cloth on her and went ´boooo´ to me..

    Plus, I want to forget the movie ´jaws´..Because I always have shivers when I swim in deep waters..

    I was hoping I could forget them with that drug

     

     Big Girls Blouse

    2549.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 07:36 pm

    ´No Kissing´ At Station!!!

    Officials at Warrington Bank Quay Station agreed to a romance-free zone, which was suggested by the local chamber of commerce.
    ...
    If lovers want to smooch, they have to do so in the designated kissing area situated nearby.

    http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/ne/skynews/20090216/16/2007195751-rail-couples-told-kissing-station.jpg#180,1800

     

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090216/tuk-rail-couples-told-no-kissing-at-stat-45dbed5.html

    2550.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    ´No Kissing´ At Station!!!

    Officials at Warrington Bank Quay Station agreed to a romance-free zone, which was suggested by the local chamber of commerce.
    ...
    If lovers want to smooch, they have to do so in the designated kissing area situated nearby.

    http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/ne/skynews/20090216/16/2007195751-rail-couples-told-kissing-station.jpg#180,1800

     

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090216/tuk-rail-couples-told-no-kissing-at-stat-45dbed5.html

     

    Apparently the whole thing is to prevent train delays!!!!! lol

     

    2551.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 08:52 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    Apparently the whole thing is to prevent train delays!!!!! lol

     

     

     because the driver is too busy watching????{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2552.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 09:47 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     because the driver is too busy watching????{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     ......or maybe participating?  {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2553.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 10:27 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    ´No Kissing´ At Station!!!

    Officials at Warrington Bank Quay Station agreed to a romance-free zone, which was suggested by the local chamber of commerce.
    ...
    If lovers want to smooch, they have to do so in the designated kissing area situated nearby.

    http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/ne/skynews/20090216/16/2007195751-rail-couples-told-kissing-station.jpg#180,1800

     

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090216/tuk-rail-couples-told-no-kissing-at-stat-45dbed5.html

     

     Warrington Bank Quay Station, where is that? I´ll never go there, if I can´t even kiss.....

    2554.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Warrington Bank Quay Station, where is that? I´ll never go there, if I can´t even kiss.....

     

     don´t worry it´s up north( in england).....I would never take you there{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2555.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     16 Feb 2009 Mon 10:37 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     don´t worry it´s up north( in england).....I would never take you there{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     Erm..... don´t want to disappoint you canim but when thinking of kissing I´m... welll.... how shall I say this...... 

     

    But an article like this proves the idea I had that you Brits are a little {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} (We do it the otherwise around, we have K&R zones here!)

    2556.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     17 Feb 2009 Tue 12:54 am

    Heh Heh Sui trying to pull in the "I´ve been Dudu´d " forum {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}



    Edited (2/17/2009) by lessluv [adding paracetemol as fallen off chair laughing]

    2557.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Feb 2009 Tue 11:58 pm

    Blimey, just been watching the Mistresses on Tv......... great series and wow what a tangle web they weave....................

    2558.       alameda
    3499 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 01:34 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I still remember a huge black stray dog confronting me  in the middle of the night on an empty road years ago or the joke, my sister put a white bed cloth on her and went ´boooo´ to me..

    Plus, I want to forget the movie ´jaws´..Because I always have shivers when I swim in deep waters..

    I was hoping I could forget them with that drug

     

     Sometimes the fear reaction is a good thing. It gives the adrenaline to escape. We have some very nasty spiders here and being fearful of them is a good thing.

     

    I´m afraid of deep dark water (or any water I can not see what is in it) too, but we do have sharks here and they do damage to people.....not to mention the sting rays and other things in it.

    2559.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 02:51 am

    What has caught my eye twice today is a Dove Deodorant window in the middle of the screen.  Is it just me or does Admin think everyone else smells too?  

    2560.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 03:54 pm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7879581.stm

     

    The fancy footwork of grizzlie bears has been revealed by some brilliant filming. The bear was filmed flicking the fish out of the water with their hind feet and catching them in their mouths.  Apparently bears don´t mind water, but they don´t like getting their ears wet .............. now does that sound familiar?? {#lang_emotions_lol}



    Edited (2/18/2009) by libralady [Added text............. mind not on the job today :)]

    2561.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 04:05 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

    What has caught my eye twice today is a Dove Deodorant window in the middle of the screen.  Is it just me or does Admin think everyone else smells too?  

     

     It´s just you {#lang_emotions_puking}

     

    {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2562.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 07:34 pm

    The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of  my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning.  {#lang_emotions_sad}.  Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack!  Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim! {#lang_emotions_cry}



    Edited (2/18/2009) by lady in red [double vision! :D]

    2563.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of  my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning.  {#lang_emotions_sad}.  Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack!  Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim! {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     That´s awful! Gecmiþ olsun!

    2564.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     It´s just you {#lang_emotions_puking}

     

    {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     Go to fullsize image

    2565.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 10:13 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of  my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning.  {#lang_emotions_sad}.  Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack!  Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim! {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     Now I have heard some good tactics for dudu hunting ......but that one beats them all{#lang_emotions_lol}

    you poor thing {#lang_emotions_flowers}

    2566.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 Feb 2009 Wed 10:54 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of  my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning.  {#lang_emotions_sad}.  Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack!  Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim! {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     Ouch! {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2567.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 12:28 am

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     

     Go to fullsize image

     thank goodness!!.... the ads are now gone!

     

    2568.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 12:58 am

    Human Vending Machines

     

    The innovative vending machine is part of the latest kitkat  ‘Working Like a Machine’ campaign, which plays off the idea that people are overwhelmed with the monotony of everyday life and so need to take a break. Consumers better just hope the ‘vendor’ isn’t having his very own break should they need a chocolate break of their own.

    This latest craze is being launched in London Victoria National Rail station on Wednesday 17th February.

    The Kit Kat machine is operated by an actual human vendor . The consumer experiences the speed and efficiency of a normal vending machine , with the added bonus of having a person to chat to and physically hand them their chocolate treat

     

    http://www.realwire.com/release_detail.asp?ReleaseID=11406

     

    Human Vending Machines

     

    Human Vending Machines

     

     

     



    Edited (2/19/2009) by thehandsom

    2569.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 03:32 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Human Vending Machines

     

    The innovative vending machine is part of the latest kitkat  ‘Working Like a Machine’ campaign, which plays off the idea that people are overwhelmed with the monotony of everyday life and so need to take a break. Consumers better just hope the ‘vendor’ isn’t having his very own break should they need a chocolate break of their own.

    This latest craze is being launched in London Victoria National Rail station on Wednesday 17th February.

    The Kit Kat machine is operated by an actual human vendor . The consumer experiences the speed and efficiency of a normal vending machine , with the added bonus of having a person to chat to and physically hand them their chocolate treat

     

    http://www.realwire.com/release_detail.asp?ReleaseID=11406

     

    Human Vending Machines

     

    Human Vending Machines

     

     

     

     

     that is funny..... can you imagine not paying attention to the machine and then just being totally freaked out by weird man in there!!{#lang_emotions_lol}

    2570.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 02:17 pm

    Anti-gay preachers banned from UK

    A father and daughter from a US church which has called for homosexuals to be killed, have been banned from entering the UK by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

     

    Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper from the Westboro Baptist Church had urged protests against a play being put on in Hampshire.

    Queen Mary´s College in Basingstoke is staging The Laramie Project, a play about a man killed for being gay.

     

    The UK Border Agency said it opposed "extremism in all its forms".

    A spokesman added: "Both these individuals have engaged in unacceptable behaviour by inciting hatred against a number of communities.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7898972.stm

     

     

    Good thing too.....bloody religious extremists.....how I love religion {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

     

     



    Edited (2/19/2009) by TheAenigma

    2571.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 03:18 pm

    I see the prince has arrived

    I wonder which one?

    2572.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 03:33 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    I see the prince has arrived

    I wonder which one?

     

     hmmmm....the Handsome Prince maybe - looking for his Sleeping Beauty!  (Babyglam perhaps?? 

    2573.       adana
    416 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 04:16 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     hmmmm....the Handsome Prince maybe - looking for his Sleeping Beauty!  (Babyglam perhaps?? 

     

     or Prince Charming{#lang_emotions_unsure}?btw does she have pernament residence?I hardly see her off{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}sorry,had to comment......could not resist{#lang_emotions_ninja}

    2574.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 07:16 pm

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     or Prince Charming{#lang_emotions_unsure}?btw does she have pernament residence?I hardly see her off{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}sorry,had to comment......could not resist{#lang_emotions_ninja}

     

     She wasn´t logged in this morning!

    2575.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:12 pm

    Welcome to the handsom/cynicmystic show!  It seems these two can´t stay away from eachother! 

    2576.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:23 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Welcome to the handsom/cynicmystic show!  It seems these two can´t stay away from eachother! 

     

     There most be some romance in the air..... lol lol

    2577.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Welcome to the handsom/cynicmystic show!  It seems these two can´t stay away from eachother! 

    I dont want to..But he is insisting..

    charm of my hair? lol

     

    2578.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 10:34 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I dont want to..But he is insisting..

    charm of my hair? lol

     

     

     Oh, handsom....you didn´t let him touch your hair did you?  NOW I AM REALLY JEALOUS!!{#lang_emotions_get_you} AND ANGRY{#lang_emotions_rant}AND SAD!{#lang_emotions_cry}

    2579.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 11:14 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Oh, handsom....you didn´t let him touch your hair did you?  NOW I AM REALLY JEALOUS!!{#lang_emotions_get_you} AND ANGRY{#lang_emotions_rant}AND SAD!{#lang_emotions_cry}

     

    canim cicim askim bitanem..

    he wanted but I did not let him touch me..NO WAY...

    Calmer now? lol

     

     

    2580.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 11:35 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    canim cicim askim bitanem..

    he wanted but I did not let him touch me..NO WAY...

    Calmer now? lol

     

     

     

     I tolerated your flirting with DD....your couchsurfing with Trudy (I know about the tutu!)......all the loving exchanges between you and femme during your weekly waxings.....I even looked the other way when you got a new laptop out of nowhere....BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2581.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 11:38 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I tolerated your flirting with DD....your couchsurfing with Trudy (I know about the tutu!)......all the loving exchanges between you and femme during your weekly waxings.....I even looked the other way when you got a new laptop out of nowhere....BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     Trouble! lol

    2582.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 11:40 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I tolerated your flirting with DD....your couchsurfing with Trudy (I know about the tutu!)......all the loving exchanges between you and femme during your weekly waxings.....I even looked the other way when you got a new laptop out of nowhere....BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

    but canimcicimbitanem..I am STRICTLY AND categorically denying these allegations..

    This is all part of big conspricy to seperate us..

    They are just jealous..

    dont you see that? please..(L)

    2583.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 11:43 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    but canimcicimbitanem..I am STRICTLY AND categorically denying these allegations..

    This is all part of big conspricy to seperate us..

    They are just jealous..

    dont you see that? please..(L)

     

    Butbutbutbut.... þekerim, my couch is waiting for you! And you promised me that SHE was no longer around.... {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

    lol lol

    2584.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Feb 2009 Thu 11:53 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Butbutbutbut.... þekerim, my couch is waiting for you! And you promised me that SHE was no longer around.... {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

    lol lol

     

     I always new this "couchsurfing" thing wasn´t as innocent as you made it sound!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2585.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 12:00 am

    alameda´s favorite org in US: CAIR

     

    Beheader hubby was hero to U.S. Muslim activists
    TV network founder got award from controversial group CAIR

     

    A Muslim TV network founder who has been charged with beheading his wife was the recipient of an award from the controversial Council on American-Islamic Relations, the self-described Muslim civil rights group that boasts of its influence on U.S. government policy.

     

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89231

    2586.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 12:05 am

    ITALIAN KILLED IN TURKEY: TWO PERSONS INVOLVED, LAWYER

     ANKARA, FEBRUARY 18 - New evidence has revealed that more than two perpetrators may have been involved in the rape and murder of Italian artist Pippa Bacca, who was hitch-hiking across Turkey for peace last year, her family lawyer told ANSA today. "The forensic report has revealed that there were at least two, maybe three, involved in the rape and murder of Pippa Bacca," Mehmet Eke said. The trial of the man suspected of murdering Giuseppina Pasqualino Di Marineo in northwestern Turkey, after he picked her up while hitchhiking to Israel on a mission of peace, began in October 2008. Turkish prosecutors have "aggravated life in prison" for sole suspect, 38-year-old Murat Karatas. Bacca departed from the Italian city of Milan together with Silvia Moro, an artist friend, on March 8. The two artists had been hitchhiking to the Israeli city of Tel Aviv hoping to send a "peace message" to the world. Pasqualino and Moro separated from each other in Istanbul on March 19, and after March 31, no further contact could be established with Pasqualino. The 33-year-old artist was found dead in a forest near the town of Gebze in the northwestern province of Kocaeli on April 11.

    2587.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 12:13 am

    i have noticed that my last post was deleted by a mod whom i often call heartless lol

    an idiot! or bunch of idiots?

     

    2588.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 12:00 pm

    TheHandsom, Cynicmystic, Tami threads.....it seems that the you have to MOVE OUT OF TURKEY to become hot under the collar and fierce when discussing anything Turkish!

     

    What happened to those who remain in Turkey?  Are they subdued from drinking water from Ankara?

    2589.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 03:57 pm

    a mod that i call heartless (and brainless as well) has again removed my latest posts.

    2590.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:35 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    a mod that i call heartless (and brainless as well) has again removed my latest posts.

     

     Well actually you are wrong there - the post I removed was 2 weeks or so ago, and I did pm you to ask if you could amend it, as you did not respond I deleted it.  This was posted in our admin forum and no one suggested that it should not have been deleted.

     

    I have not even read any of your latest posts, let alone deleted them.

     

    The PM I sent you, 10th Feb, was that your last post????

    To: femmeous 10 Feb 2009 Tue 04:58 pm

    but of course, instead they would criticise you for daring to call islam for what it is in real (the 7th century mindest of caravan robbers).

     

    Please modify this, other wise I will delete it.



    Edited (2/20/2009) by libralady [Added pm]

    2591.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:46 pm

    if you didnt delete my latest posts, then im sorry that i have unnecessarily accused you for that.

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Well actually you are wrong there - the post I removed was 2 weeks or so ago, and I did pm you to ask if you could amend it, as you did not respond I deleted it.  This was posted in our admin forum and no one suggested that it should not have been deleted.

     

    I have not even read any of your latest posts, let alone deleted them.

     

    The PM I sent you, 10th Feb, was that your last post????

    To: femmeous 10 Feb 2009 Tue 04:58 pm

    but of course, instead they would criticise you for daring to call islam for what it is in real (the 7th century mindest of caravan robbers).

     

    Please modify this, other wise I will delete it.

     

     

    2592.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 07:49 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    if you didnt delete my latest posts, then im sorry that i have unnecessarily accused you for that.

     

     

     

     No offence taken.

    2593.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 08:17 pm

    Take a donkey that has  those beautiful eyes, to New york, Canada, Italy and Asia..

    Do you think the donkey has changed? 

    Donkey is a donkey  still with  those beautiful eyes and ears are still attached!!

     

    i just happent to love this text of hairy lol

    i think im gonna use it sometime in future

    once donkey is always a donkey lol

    2594.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 08:20 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    Take a donkey that has  those beautiful eyes, to New york, Canada, Italy and Asia..

    Do you think the donkey has changed? 

    Donkey is a donkey  still with  those beautiful eyes and ears are still attached!!

     

    i just happent to love this text of hairy lol

    i think im gonna use it sometime in future

    once donkey is always a donkey lol

     It is sort of like...."you can´t make a silk purse from a sow´s ear"......a favorite saying of my dear Grandmother.

     

    2595.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 08:22 pm

    DD,

    has it touched you now when it was a polish archeologist that was beheaded? he is one of those now hundreds who were hunted down by those goat-bearded creatures (that never get criticised for their deeds by our muslim members on tc).

    our muslim members never say how awful, how terrible that was to behead someone, to slaughter someone like a sheep, slit his throat, cut of his head and chant a praise to allah.



    but of course, instead they would criticise you for daring to call islam for what it is in real (the 7th century mindest of caravan robbing gentlemen association? ). they of course go on to iraq and all that blah blah as if that poor polish guy was to blame for the wars.



    do they care for those who were beheaded? do they shout out or write a post of anger?

    no, they never get angry with talibs, they dont bother themselves when a school is burnt down together with girls who didnt have proper coverings. or girls in afghanistan are burnt by acid for going to school. or when raped women are stoned to death thanks to sharia (in which our highly educated canli wants to live). or when little school girls in indonesia are beheaded for being christians.

    did our muslim members show their concern or sorrow when hundreds of thousands were mass-murdered in darfur? did they cry out when hundreds of thousands of kurds were gazzed down by saddam?

    did they share sorrow with those who died in tsunami and rushed with help?

    do they today express their anxiety for any victim outside of muslim world?



    to them nothing is dear, no life has a value. and you still dont understand it. they will make you shut up. they will put you into the corner and accuse you for racism and you quickly will forget about the tragedy together with the world that is concentrated now on political correctness.



    you even will not notice that you started from accusing the talibs and ended up defending yourself from the stake they prepared for you for not being careful when you speak your mind.



    for how long now are you going to run ?

     

    PS. ah, i have modified it

    if it was about christianity or any other religion, you wouldnt even raise your finger, but since it is about untouchable islam it can be a pain in bottoms.

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     No offence taken.

     

     

    2596.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 08:45 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    DD,

    has it touched you now when it was a polish archeologist that was beheaded? he is one of those now hundreds who were hunted down by those goat-bearded creatures (that never get criticised for their deeds by our muslim members on tc).

    our muslim members never say how awful, how terrible that was to behead someone, to slaughter someone like a sheep, slit his throat, cut of his head and chant a praise to allah.



    but of course, instead they would criticise you for daring to call islam for what it is in real (the 7th century mindest of caravan robbing gentlemen association? ). they of course go on to iraq and all that blah blah as if that poor polish guy was to blame for the wars.



    do they care for those who were beheaded? do they shout out or write a post of anger?

    no, they never get angry with talibs, they dont bother themselves when a school is burnt down together with girls who didnt have proper coverings. or girls in afghanistan are burnt by acid for going to school. or when raped women are stoned to death thanks to sharia (in which our highly educated canli wants to live). or when little school girls in indonesia are beheaded for being christians.

    did our muslim members show their concern or sorrow when hundreds of thousands were mass-murdered in darfur? did they cry out when hundreds of thousands of kurds were gazzed down by saddam?

    did they share sorrow with those who died in tsunami and rushed with help?

    do they today express their anxiety for any victim outside of muslim world?



    to them nothing is dear, no life has a value. and you still dont understand it. they will make you shut up. they will put you into the corner and accuse you for racism and you quickly will forget about the tragedy together with the world that is concentrated now on political correctness.



    you even will not notice that you started from accusing the talibs and ended up defending yourself from the stake they prepared for you for not being careful when you speak your mind.



    for how long now are you going to run ?

     

    PS. ah, i have modified it

    if it was about christianity or any other religion, you wouldnt even raise your finger, but since it is about untouchable islam it can be a pain in bottoms.

     

     

     

     

     As an aethiest I could not give a toss which religion it was about........... that is not why it was deleted.

    2597.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 08:55 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     As an aethiest I could not give a toss which religion it was about........... that is not why it was deleted.

     

    lol libra, i and you know that it is not so as you stated above. i have been too long on this site to read your posts, therefore i came to such conclusion, dear. to me you can even be a dudu worshipper, and i know you well from your own posts. to me you are a simple hypocrite.

    2598.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Feb 2009 Fri 09:55 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    lol libra, i and you know that it is not so as you stated above. i have been too long on this site to read your posts, therefore i came to such conclusion, dear. to me you can even be a dudu worshipper, and i know you well from your own posts. to me you are a simple hypocrite.

     

     Yes my dear, I am a dudu worshipper of the highest order........... something you are so obviously jealous of........  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes} but we have more in common than you would like to admit........... that is why you are so angry with me {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2599.       libralady
    5152 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 12:42 am

    Micky Rourke on TV  - he looks such freak with all his plastic surgery{#lang_emotions_puking}

    2600.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 12:47 am

     

    Quoting libralady

    Micky Rourke on TV  - he looks such freak with all his plastic surgery{#lang_emotions_puking}

     

     Agreed....much preferred him like this!

     

    2601.       libralady
    5152 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 12:51 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     Agreed....much preferred him like this!

     

     

     He is unrecognisable now..........  (Uhmmmm 9 1/2 weeks and ice cubes and blind folds oooooooohhhh  )))))))))

    2602.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 01:02 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     He is unrecognisable now..........  (Uhmmmm 9 1/2 weeks and ice cubes and blind folds oooooooohhhh  )))))))))

     

    and Kim Basinger.. ohhhh

    2603.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 01:04 am

    Man Drilling his head

     

    Man Drilling his head

    Same man blowing up a hot water bottle with his nose.

     

    Inflating Water Bottle With Nose

     

     

    2604.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 02:05 am

    too much testosterone flying about on here.........so who made it to the top!!{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

     

    2605.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:09 pm

    hairy, can you remove those pics above?

    2606.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:10 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Yes my dear, I am a dudu worshipper of the highest order........... something you are so obviously jealous of........  {#lang_emotions_rolleyes} but we have more in common than you would like to admit........... that is why you are so angry with me {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     tell me again, i failed to understand why im angry with you?

    2607.       portokal
    2516 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 07:25 pm

    Last Tango in Paris

    2608.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 08:54 pm

    OMG is this for real?

     

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/portable/video/x5odhh_pop-corn-telephone-portable-microon_news

     

    2609.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 08:56 pm

     

     

     i think it is true. you are too late, this was posted last year lol

    2610.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 09:05 pm

    The donkey got clamped while out on a bender last night

     

    Go to fullsize image

    2611.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 09:08 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     i think it is true. you are too late, this was posted last year lol

     

     i take my post back

    i just have watched some youtube vids that sort of debunk cell phone pop-corns.

     

    some say that they heat the table underneath, but if they do, then they would also fry phones.

    some say that they throw pop corns and then play the film baclward. doesnt make sense.

     

    2612.       geniuda
    1070 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 09:08 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     i think it is true. you are too late, this was posted last year lol

     

    I think this popcorn thing is not TRUE!!

     

    After watching so many videos in youtube of people proving this theory wrong, my brother, nephews and myself decided to try it.... we tried it with 4 and 5 phones for several times but nothing happened... we were wondering if it was the porporn´s brand {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} . We were kind of dissapointed that we ended up eating porpcorn but since plan A failed we had to cook them in the microwave.. {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

     

    yet ..I do believe cell phones are harmful, but this porporn thing...not really sure!    



    Edited (2/21/2009) by geniuda
    Edited (2/21/2009) by geniuda

    2613.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:06 pm

     lol lol lol

    you are as idiot as me lol

    about a month ago i tried it too. it didnt work. my kids were disappointed. since i promised them pop-corns i ended up frying them traditionally, plus i had to pay for phone calls {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

     

    Quoting geniuda

     

     

    I think this popcorn thing is not TRUE!!

     

    After watching so many videos in youtube of people proving this theory wrong, my brother, nephews and myself decided to try it.... we tried it with 4 and 5 phones for several times but nothing happened... we were wondering if it was the porporn´s brand {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} . We were kind of dissapointed that we ended up eating porpcorn but since plan A failed we had to cook them in the microwave.. {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

     

    yet ..I do believe cell phones are harmful, but this porporn thing...not really sure!    

     

     

    2614.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:07 pm

     peacetrain i started worrying about you. are you ok?

    where does your obsession with asses come from?

    Quoting peacetrain

    The donkey got clamped while out on a bender last night

     

    Go to fullsize image

     

     

    2615.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:12 pm

    another thread is locked

     

    i need some ice-cream for such frustration

    2616.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:13 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     peacetrain i started worrying about you. are you ok?

    where does your obsession with asses come from?

     

     

     

     Thehandsom, he converted me.  I am very grateful to him too.  I did relate part of my life story here several  months ago, documenting the very traumatic time I had on Blackpool Beach at the tender age of 7.  There I was having a sedate ride on a donkey when it suddenly decided to run off.  I´ve never been the same since. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2617.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:16 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     

     Thehandsom, he converted me.  I am very grateful to him too.  I did relate part of my life story here several  months ago, documenting the very traumatic time I had on Blackpool Beach at the tender age of 7.  There I was having a sedate ride on a donkey when it suddenly decided to run off.  I´ve never been the same since. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

    i believe you

    2618.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:46 pm

    You have children?

    May God help them...

    Imagine if I had a mommy like you...

    Quoting femmeous

     lol lol lol

    you are as idiot as me lol

    about a month ago i tried it too. it didnt work. my kids were disappointed. since i promised them pop-corns i ended up frying them traditionally, plus i had to pay for phone calls {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

     

     

     

     

     

    2619.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 10:49 pm

     may God help me if i had a child like you

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    You have children?

    May God help them...

    Imagine if I had a mommy like you...

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    2620.       mltm
    3690 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 11:03 pm

    "Try to pop popcorn at a low temperature (below 150 degrees C or 300 degrees F). You will find that the popcorn will not pop -- it has to get beyond a certain temperature for the pressure inside the kernel to build to the point where popping occurs. "

     

    "According to the Occupational Safety and Health Department of the Communication Workers of America (CWA), “As high frequency radio frequency radiation…penetrates the body, the exposed molecules move about and collide with one another causing friction and, thus, heat…If the radiation is powerful enough, the tissue or skin will be heated or burned.”

     

    Microwave and cellphone radiation are similar. They are both radiowaves, and they cause heat, but I cannot decide if the radiation that´s emitted from 4 cellphones are as high as to make the popcorns reach 150 C in such a short time!!!

     

    I want to try it!

    2621.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 11:11 pm

    I would immediately covert to Islam; take the first name Abdullah while keeping your last name in your honour, and demand to be circumcised... just to make mommy happy, of course.

    Quoting femmeous

     may God help me if i had a child like you

     

     

     

     

     

    2622.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Feb 2009 Sat 11:25 pm

     {#lang_emotions_wtf} are you not circumcised yet?

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    I would immediately covert to Islam; take the first name Abdullah while keeping your last name in your honour, and demand to be circumcised... just to make mommy happy, of course.

     

     

     

     

    2623.       bod
    5999 posts
     22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:37 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     {#lang_emotions_wtf} are you not circumcised yet?

     

     

     

     

     Do you recommend it ???

    2624.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     22 Feb 2009 Sun 05:19 pm

    Armenian women

     

    http://www.kultur.gov.tr/FR/resimgoster.aspx?DIL=4&BELGEANAH=18104&RESIMISIM=170.jpg

    2625.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 Feb 2009 Sun 05:52 pm

     

     

     A recent photo??  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2626.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 12:38 am

    Oh my god !

     

    Tourists hit by Cairo bomb blast

    A bomb explosion in Cairo has killed a French tourist and injured about 17 other people, mostly foreign tourists.

    It happened at an open-air hotel cafe packed with tourists in the Khan al-Khalili area - a major attraction and home to a prominent mosque.

    The device, most likely home-made, was thrown from a balcony, police said. Initial reports had suggested it had been lobbed from a motorbike.

    There has been no indication so far of who is behind the attack.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7904731.stm

     

    Ý have been there last week, had dinner, and had some oriental drinks on that area !



    Edited (2/23/2009) by CANLI

    2627.       alameda
    3499 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 02:07 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

    Oh my god !

     

    Tourists hit by Cairo bomb blast

    A bomb explosion in Cairo has killed a French tourist and injured about 17 other people, mostly foreign tourists.

    It happened at an open-air hotel cafe packed with tourists in the Khan al-Khalili area - a major attraction and home to a prominent mosque.

    The device, most likely home-made, was thrown from a balcony, police said. Initial reports had suggested it had been lobbed from a motorbike.

    There has been no indication so far of who is behind the attack.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7904731.stm

     

    Ý have been there last week, had dinner, and had some oriental drinks on that area !

     

    It just came on the news here...I´ve been looking for it since seeing your post a few minutes ago. We live in violent and dangerous times. I pray for peace

     

    I just missed the WTC towers, and had been there many times before. I lived with them in view from my windows since they were built  I lost friends in that incident. You just don´t know if you will be in a bad area or when. But...we always know that, don´t we?

     

     

    2628.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 02:13 am

    Violence everywhere: Also recently in Mexico. Just awful. There is no safety.

     

    I am not going back to Mexico and certainly  not travelling to Egypt.

     

    http://english.aljazeera.net:80/news/americas/2009/02/200922022404773139.html



    Edited (2/23/2009) by Roswitha

    2629.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 02:25 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    It just came on the news here...I´ve been looking for it since seeing your post a few minutes ago. We live in violent and dangerous times. I pray for peace

     

    I just missed the WTC towers, and had been there many times before. I lived with them in view from my windows since they were built  I lost friends in that incident. You just don´t know if you will be in a bad area or when. But...we always know that, don´t we?

     

     

     

     

    You cant imagine how peaceful is this place

    foreigner and Egyptians go there on regular bases, and we cant stop going there too

    Ýts the heart of Cairo...old Cairo.

    Ýts like when you want to have a good dinner with the smell of history, or have your tea inside history, you go there

    Ýts like you are in a different time, old Cairo, old houses, old mosques, the aroma, its where the first Ýslamic Uni Al Azhar, and the mosque of El Hüseyin

    Everything actually

    So imagining you could have been there on that time and that happened ?!

    Why, and for what ?

    And why now too?!!!

    People are suffering enough !

    2630.       alameda
    3499 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 02:33 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     

    You cant imagine how peaceful is this place

    foreigner and Egyptians go there on regular bases, and we cant stop going there too

    Ýts the heart of Cairo...old Cairo.

    Ýts like when you want to have a good dinner with the smell of history, or have your tea inside history, you go there

    Ýts like you are in a different time, old Cairo, old houses, old mosques, the aroma, its where the first Ýslamic Uni Al Azhar, and the mosque of El Hüseyin

    Everything actually

    So imagining you could have been there on that time and that happened ?!

    Why, and for what ?

    And why now too?!!!

    People are suffering enough !

     

    Canli, I´m so sad for you and your countrymen.  Who could do such a horrible thing?

     

    We live in dangerous times...very. I really sympathize with you. You must feel so violated. Huggs canim.....please accept my inadequete expression of sympathy.

     

     

    2631.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 02:48 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Canli, I´m so sad for you and your countrymen.  Who could do such a horrible thing?

     

    We live in dangerous times...very. I really sympathize with you. You must feel so violated. Huggs canim.....please accept my inadequete expression of sympathy.

     

     

     

     Thank you Caným

    Actually yes, things here didnt need this too

    Ý mean, its hard time, economic crisis, people struggle with their living everyday, some even dont know if they will be able to earn their living for the next day or not, and they keep struggling

    They struggle for themselves to live, then struggle again to establish a family, again not easy

    Then struggle trying to provide good living to that family.

    So life is not an easy task

    Safety is/was never an issue to us.

    So who would want to add such burden to the people ?!

    Seeking what ?!

    Ý dont get it

    For a while yes, i felt violated, thought ´´ohh now no one would know what will happen i better watch out ´´

    But you know, i refuse to carry that burden too.

    Ý mean no one would violate my safety in my country !

    2632.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 03:14 am

    pls. read

     

    http://www.nytimes.com:80/reuters/2009/02/22/world/international-us-egypt-blast.html?_r=1

    2633.       portokal
    2516 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 08:21 pm

     

     

    A hysteria of a romanian TV presentor, she was leading a show based on prizes for those who phone in and answer to a specific question. Since noone phoned, she had enough of nice smiling-waiting-tempting behaviour got histerical smashed the phone, shouted out-loud, " I want this phone to ring!" etc.

     

    For more details and an unforgettable show, here´s the link on youtube.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCGvmBKXxs

     

    2634.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:49 pm

    Post from a member (male) requesting a transation of his declaration of undying love to a girl who he loves ´like he has never loved another before´ - just one week after posting his email address in the forums with the message ´I´m searching for a beautiful girl - so holla me if we have something in common´!  lol lol

     

    Wow!  The power of the internet (and TC) is truly amazing!!!

    2635.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:56 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Post from a member (male) requesting a transation of his declaration of undying love to a girl who he loves ´like he has never loved another before´ - just one week after posting his email address in the forums with the message ´I´m searching for a beautiful girl - so holla me if we have something in common´!  lol lol

     

    Wow!  The power of the internet (and TC) is truly amazing!!!

     

     Oh this makes me weepy.  Love is such a wonderful thing!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2636.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:01 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Oh this makes me weepy.  Love is such a wonderful thing!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

    Out of everyone on TC gg - I knew you would be the one to truly appreciate the depth of emotion involved here

    2637.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:06 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Out of everyone on TC gg - I knew you would be the one to truly appreciate the depth of emotion involved here

     

     It has moved me deeply.  {#lang_emotions_razz}

    2638.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:11 pm

    Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit .

     

    After several failed attempts trying to grab the rabbit , we removed our coats to try and cover it with a bull fighting technique . ´ The ten strong team chased the rabbit for 200 yards through the streets of Northgate , Canterbury , before finally managing to surround and detain it .

     

     

     

    Giant Rabbit Captured by Police

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7905614.stm

    2639.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit .

     

    After several failed attempts trying to grab the rabbit , we removed our coats to try and cover it with a bull fighting technique . ´ The ten strong team chased the rabbit for 200 yards through the streets of Northgate , Canterbury , before finally managing to surround and detain it .

     

     

     

    Giant Rabbit Captured by Police

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7905614.stm

     

    Well...it´s CLEARLY a small donkey - look at those ears!  Where is PT??  {#lang_emotions_unsure}  - she should be informed.

    2640.       bod
    5999 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:33 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre.

     

    That would make a decent size rabbit stew

     

    2641.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:50 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Well...it´s CLEARLY a small donkey - look at those ears!  Where is PT??  {#lang_emotions_unsure}  - she should be informed.

     

     Are you blind???  That is clearly a mutant hamster.  Probably got fed up of its wheel and made a run for freedom.  Go to fullsize image

    2642.       alameda
    3499 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 10:58 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit . 

     

    I recently followed a Jackrabbit. At first I thought it was a mutant creature. They look very odd when they walk, and he was so confidant I would not hit him he walked down the road in front of me.

     



    Edited (2/23/2009) by alameda

    2643.       portokal
    2516 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 11:05 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Post from a member (male) requesting a transation of his declaration of undying love to a girl who he loves ´like he has never loved another before´ - just one week after posting his email address in the forums with the message ´I´m searching for a beautiful girl - so holla me if we have something in common´!  lol lol

     

    Wow!  The power of the internet (and TC) is truly amazing!!!

     

    well... maybe he found true love...

    you may never know...

    2644.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     23 Feb 2009 Mon 11:07 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit . 

     

    I recently followed a Jackrabbit. At first I thought it was a mutant creature. They look very odd when they walk, and he was so confidant I would not hit him he walked down the road in front of me.

     

     We call it a hare in the UK.  Must be a connection to thehandsom.  No wonder he was keen to share the story. Sheer nepotism.

     

    2645.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:56 am

    Duplicate post



    Edited (2/25/2009) by TheAenigma

    2646.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:57 am

    Cynicmystic´s harem! lol

    Why do outspoken men on this site end up with their devoted female followers who are there to back them up and mop their brows, while the outspoken females are merely called names....

     

    2647.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 11:03 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Cynicmystic´s harem! lol

    Why do outspoken men on this site end up with their devoted female followers who are there to back them up and mop their brows, while the outspoken females are merely called names....

     

     

     It´s a man´s world AE!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2648.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 11:06 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     It´s a man´s world AE!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     I want a harem

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

    2649.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 11:10 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I want a harem

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

     

     Let me help you out here......Gentlemen, please forward applications and a $200 non-refundable processing fee to my attention. 

    I will notify you within 10 business days if you have been selected as a member of AE´s new harem.  Thank you.

    2650.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 11:13 am

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Let me help you out here......Gentlemen, please forward applications and a $200 non-refundable processing fee to my attention. 

    I will notify you within 10 business days if you have been selected as a member of AE´s new harem.  Thank you.

     

     £200? Offffffffff you were supposed to pay THEM £200 for joining my harem

    2651.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 11:17 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     £200? Offffffffff you were supposed to pay THEM £200 for joining my harem

     

     But then how will I pay alcohol for the lounge???  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2652.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 03:57 pm

    Another ´only in the UK´ situation

     

    Schoolboys punished and give detention for refusing to kneel and pray to Allah

    2653.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 04:18 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Another ´only in the UK´ situation

     

    Schoolboys punished and give detention for refusing to kneel and pray to Allah

     

     This is infuriating!  Is this a public school LIR? 

    2654.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 07:20 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     This is infuriating!  Is this a public school LIR? 

     

    That has an entirely different meaning in the UK!  I think it must be what we call a ´state school´  - yes.

     

    2655.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 07:26 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    That has an entirely different meaning in the UK!  I think it must be what we call a ´state school´  - yes.

     

     

     What does public school mean in the UK?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2656.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 07:29 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     What does public school mean in the UK?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     It is a "private" school

    2657.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 07:30 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     It is a "private" school

     

     OMG that is soooooooo backwards!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2658.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 07:34 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     OMG that is soooooooo backwards!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     Backwards? Listen missy we had our "private schools" when you were still Indian territory! lol

    2659.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 07:40 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Backwards? Listen missy we had our "private schools" when you were still Indian territory! lol

     

     

    How silly of me to not understand that "public" should mean "private".  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    Ohhh here I go showing my lack of intelligence once again.  {#lang_emotions_cry}

    2660.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 09:55 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     

    How silly of me to not understand that "public" should mean "private".  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    Ohhh here I go showing my lack of intelligence once again.  {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     I am shocked that you show such a low level of sophistication!  Would you please post some links that provide academic explainations of what the meaning of "intelligence" is.  I don´t just want YOUR OPINION!  We don´t need people who can think for themselves around here!

     



    Edited (2/25/2009) by Elisabeth

    2661.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:01 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I want a harem

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

     

     It’s the strangest thing AE.  I have received several applications for your harem but I am confused!

     

    Here - just look at the list of the men vying for a spot….

    • Handsomer
    • Im_handsom
    • Handsom-ist
    • Handsom_me
    • Aint-I-handsom
    • MostHandsom

    {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2662.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:03 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     It’s the strangest thing AE.  I have received several applications for your harem but I am confused!

     

    Here - just look at the list of the men vying for a spot….

    • Handsomer
    • Im_handsom
    • Handsom-ist
    • Handsom_me
    • Aint-I-handsom
    • MostHandsom

    {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

    May I change my mind about this harem thing?

     

    2663.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:04 pm

    and you, lisa, leveling me with your jokes on levels. lol

    im waiting for Melek to start a thread for quotes.

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I am shocked that you show such a low level of sophistication!  Would you please post some links that provide academic explainations of what the meaning of "intelligence" is.  I don´t just want YOUR OPINION!  We don´t need people who can think for themselves around here!

     

     

     

    2664.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:07 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    May I change my mind about this harem thing?

     

     

     What if we all say ´no´?

    2665.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Feb 2009 Wed 10:25 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    May I change my mind about this harem thing?

     

     

     Ouh sorry, I´ve already stocked up the lounge bar with all the fees that were paid.  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

    2666.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 12:26 am

    Nevermind {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}



    Edited (2/26/2009) by girleegirl [I was wrong....mark this date on your calendars ladies and gents...it is a rare event ;)]

    2667.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 01:44 am

    LIR has been checking out amateur for a few hours now.  I wonder what the attraction is.  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2668.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 01:49 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    LIR has been checking out amateur for a few hours now.  I wonder what the attraction is.  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

    I´ve been wondering the same thing....

    2669.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 01:52 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I´ve been wondering the same thing....

     

     Hahaha....look, now she has disappeared.  Busted!!!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2670.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 02:09 am

    China Art work (from sex knowledge festival in hangzhou zhejiang )

     

     

     

              

      

     

     

     

     

     



    Edited (2/26/2009) by thehandsom

    2671.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 04:06 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    China Art work (from sex knowledge festival in hangzhou zhejiang )

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is this one for sale???? {#lang_emotions_razz}

    2672.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:49 am

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    Is this one for sale???? {#lang_emotions_razz}

     

     OMG I almost spit out my diet coke!!!!!!!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2673.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:07 pm

    Quoting girleegirl

    LIR has been checking out amateur for a few hours now.  I wonder what the attraction is.  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I´ve been wondering the same thing....

     

    Excuse me!  {#lang_emotions_rant}- I was on MSN at the time in question and I  have trustworthy people who can vouch for that fact!

     

    2674.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:12 pm

    Mmmmmhhhmmmmm......we all know people on MSN are NOT trustworthy!!  {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Quoting girleegirl

    LIR has been checking out amateur for a few hours now.  I wonder what the attraction is.  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

    Excuse me!  {#lang_emotions_rant}- I was on MSN at the time in question and I  have trustworthy people who can vouch for that fact!

     

     

     

    2675.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:18 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Mmmmmhhhmmmmm......we all know people on MSN are NOT trustworthy!!  {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     

     

     

     {#lang_emotions_rant}What??!!! LIR was talking to ME!!! {#lang_emotions_get_you} 

     

    (And now back pedaling again?)

    2676.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:21 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     {#lang_emotions_rant}What??!!! LIR was talking to ME!!! {#lang_emotions_get_you} 

     

    (And now back pedaling again?)

     

     Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll......................................................

    {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_razz}{#lang_emotions_wink}

    2677.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:23 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     {#lang_emotions_rant}What??!!! LIR was talking to ME!!! {#lang_emotions_get_you} 

     

     

     

     Well that kind of proves the point eh? lol lol lol

    2678.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:27 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Well that kind of proves the point eh? lol lol lol

     

     You´re just jealous! Ha!{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    2679.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:28 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     You´re just jealous! Ha!{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

     Maybe...

    2680.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:31 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Maybe...

     

     If you ask nicely maybe GG can be persuaded to say Melek´s prize is tranferable. Will that be a plaster on ´the wound´? lol lol

    2681.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:33 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     If you ask nicely maybe GG can be persuaded to say Melek´s prize is tranferable. Will that be a plaster on ´the wound´? lol lol

     

     I was hoping for a better plaster

    Something like "dinner for two, with a dudu of my choice"

    2682.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:37 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I was hoping for a better plaster

    Something like "dinner for two, with a dudu of my choice"

     

     But you have TheH. already!

    2683.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:39 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     But you have TheH. already!

     

     I do?

    Hmm is that why I felt bilious all day?



    Edited (2/26/2009) by TheAenigma

    2684.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:39 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     But you have TheH. already!

     

    Well, excuse me, he wants to send ME flowers and champagne! ME!

     

    (Still waiting btw lol)

    2685.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:40 pm

    My msn blocked and deleted list! {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2686.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:40 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    My msn blocked and deleted list! {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     lol

    2687.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:43 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Well, excuse me, he wants to send ME flowers and champagne! ME!

     

    (Still waiting btw lol)

     

     That´s what you get when sharing a dudu! (Wait till Elisabeth is here.....) lol

    2688.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:44 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     That´s what you get when sharing a dudu! (Wait till Elisabeth is here.....) lol

     

     I am very keen to sell my "share" {#lang_emotions_puking}

    2689.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:45 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     That´s what you get when sharing a dudu! (Wait till Elisabeth is here.....) lol

     

    Do you think a nice all-paid trip to CA would placate her? lol

    2690.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:48 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Do you think a nice all-paid trip to CA would placate her? lol

     

     Ehhhhhh, ......, I doubt it. {#lang_emotions_ninja}

    2691.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:49 pm

    Cynic keeps logging on...."forum message add", then logging off again....then back on...then off.....

     

    I am expecting a HUGE post soon...full of quotes, arguments, links... possibly accompanying music...maybe an aroma...and a big marching band

    2692.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:50 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Cynic keeps logging on...."forum message add", then logging off again....then back on...then off.....

     

    I am expecting a HUGE post soon...full of quotes, arguments, links... possibly accompanying music...maybe an aroma...and a big marching band

     

     For some reason HUGE and Cynic just don´t seem to go together well {#lang_emotions_unsure}



    Edited (2/26/2009) by Melek74

    2693.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:50 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

     For some reason the word HUGE and Cynic just don´t seem to go together well {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     Do you have access to personal information that we dont?

    2694.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:52 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Do you have access to personal information that we dont?

    Nah, I´m profiling  

    2695.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 07:53 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

     For some reason HUGE and Cynic just don´t seem to go together well {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2696.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:11 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Cynic keeps logging on...."forum message add", then logging off again....then back on...then off.....

     

    I am expecting a HUGE post soon...full of quotes, arguments, links... possibly accompanying music...maybe an aroma...and a big marching band

     

     Offfffffff Cynic´s post turned out to be "language stuff"

    Booooooooooooooo!

    2697.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:15 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Offfffffff Cynic´s post turned out to be "language stuff"

    Booooooooooooooo!

     

    I told you, HUGE expectations, and the results are quite dissapointing lol

    2698.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:19 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    I told you, HUGE expectations, and the results are quite dissapointing lol

     

     Isn´t that often the way? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2699.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:22 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Mmmmmhhhmmmmm......we all know people on MSN are NOT trustworthy!!  {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     

     

     

    Really?

    boooo..

    And me here thinking that I should thrust them..

    2700.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Really?

    boooo..

    And me here thinking that I should thrust them..

     

     There, there honey....I´m sorry that I burst your delusional little bubble head.  {#lang_emotions_razz}

    2701.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Really?

    boooo..

    And me here thinking that I should thrust them..

     

     Does that mean a change in tactics?

    2702.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 08:34 pm

    100ft Birthday Greeting Carved in Sand . Jeff Brook Smith has surprised his partner of seven years with a giant birthday greeting that he carved on the beach with a rake . .. spent four hours creating the greeting near the couple´s seaside home in Scarborough, North Yorkshire ...

     

    http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/99066/99066893.jpg

     

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    2703.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 09:20 pm

    The most despised man in Britain right now....

    (well not EVERYONE met theHandsom yet! lol )

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7912651.stm

     



    Edited (2/26/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (2/26/2009) by TheAenigma [Offfffff mental block on spelling of despise.... grrrrrrrrr!]

    2704.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Feb 2009 Thu 09:21 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    100ft Birthday Greeting Carved in Sand . Jeff Brook Smith has surprised his partner of seven years with a giant birthday greeting that he carved on the beach with a rake . .. spent four hours creating the greeting near the couple´s seaside home in Scarborough, North Yorkshire ...

     

    http://images2.image-data.com/images/7/lowres/99066/99066893.jpg

     

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

     

     Awwww, bless, he must have it bad!!! Good job it was decent weather........... {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2705.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 02:50 am

     She holds the key to my chastity belt hehe

    ask her kindly

    she may send the pictures...

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Do you have access to personal information that we dont?

     

     

    2706.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 03:42 am

     Guilty of all charges {#lang_emotions_rant} libralady how could you side with the dark side...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     

    2707.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 05:24 am

    I expect my birthday greeting to be on a much larger scale than Janet´s!!!{#lang_emotions_razz}



    Edited (2/27/2009) by lessluv [has just maxed the corporate card]

    2708.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:21 am

    what I got in my email box today;

     

    Quote:

    Our team is a unique producer of quality fake documents.
    We offer only original high-quality fake passports, driver´s licenses, stamps and other products for following countries:
    USA, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, Mexico, Netherlands, South Africa, Spain, United Kingdom.

    To get the additional information and place the order just visit our website:


    http://www.buyfakepassports.com


    >> Contact e-mails:


    General support: support@buyfakepassports.com


    Technical support: tech@buyfakepassports.com

     

     

    {#lang_emotions_super_cool}{#lang_emotions_super_cool}

     

     

     

    anybody wants a fake passport for her dudu(s)?{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}



    Edited (2/27/2009) by tamikidakika

    2709.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 12:52 pm

    when i was shearching for something, i found this ;

     

    http://www.upennmuseum.com/hieroglyphsreal.cgi/

     

     

    CENK, your name in hieroglyphs is






     

    and then i found alphabet of  hieroglyphs and i wrote this but i wrote it from left to right

     

     

     

    i will post  the alphabet later..



    Edited (2/27/2009) by cybernetics [because of my bad english]
    Edited (2/27/2009) by cybernetics
    Edited (2/27/2009) by cybernetics

    2710.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 01:00 pm

    Hehe I like this

     

    Mine is :-

     







    2711.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 01:18 pm

    This is fun!!

     

    Mine is:     

     






     

     





     



    Edited (2/27/2009) by lady in red

    2712.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 01:30 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    This is fun!!

     

    Mine is:     

     






     

     

     

     

     

     OUhhhh we are so similar canim - except you have some snake in you



    Edited (2/27/2009) by TheAenigma

    2713.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 01:33 pm

     {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     OUhhhh we are so similar canim - except you have some snake in you

     

     

    2714.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 02:48 pm

    Mine is:







     

    Doesn´t the owl symbolize wisdom? he he

    2715.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 03:58 pm

    This is fun Here´s me (not as complicated as I´d want)

     






    2716.       sheena
    308 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 05:14 pm

    and mine is

     








    2717.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 05:56 pm

    How fun...

     






     

    Uhhh Cenk....it looks like I found some rope for you!  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

    2718.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 06:13 pm

    I have two....

     

    Trudy is:

     







     

    and my official name (like in my passport - no, I won´t tell!!) is:

     












    2719.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 06:29 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    and my official name (like in my passport - no, I won´t tell!!) is:

     










     

     ....but pretty easy to work out from the previous names!!!!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    2720.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 06:39 pm

    Afghanistan: the shocking rates of suicide among young women

     

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/02/2007_27_tue.shtml

    2721.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 06:40 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     ....but pretty easy to work out from the previous names!!!!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

    which brings us to the fact that Melek cheated and posted her TC nick instead of her real name

    2722.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 06:52 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     ....but pretty easy to work out from the previous names!!!!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

     Is that so?

    2723.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:04 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Is that so?

     

     {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2724.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:34 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    which brings us to the fact that Melek cheated and posted her TC nick instead of her real name

     

    lol Indeed!

     

    Here´s my official name:

     

     









     

    I do prefer the owl to the plumbing pipe and peppermint candy cane. lol

    2725.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:47 pm

     

    mine, such a crap pasting

     

    2726.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:50 pm

    Offfffffffff, mine is so boring compared to everyone else!  {#lang_emotions_cry}

    2727.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:52 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Offfffffffff, mine is so boring compared to everyone else!  {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     Never!  That is a lovely piece of rope

    2728.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:52 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

    mine, such a crap pasting

     

     

     That is a strange looking thing at the top! lol

    2729.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:55 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     That is a strange looking thing at the top! lol

     

     its a slug of wrong colour

    2730.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:56 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     its a slug of wrong colour

     

     and with a deer´s head! 

    2731.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:56 pm

     why double E ?

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    lol Indeed!

     

    Here´s my official name:

     

     









     

    I do prefer the owl to the plumbing pipe and peppermint candy cane. lol

     

     

    2732.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:57 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     and with a deer´s head! 

     

     i bet you ve never seen slugs? ha?

    2733.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:58 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     i bet you ve never seen slugs? ha?

     

     I have seen lots in my garden (I can´t bear to kill them!) but never with a head and ears! lol

    2734.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 07:59 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Offfffffffff, mine is so boring compared to everyone else!  {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     i agree, very, so much boring couldnt you make up something better?

    2735.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:01 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I have seen lots in my garden (I can´t bear to kill them!) but never with a head and ears! lol

     

     you are just jealous. lol

    2736.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:02 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     i agree, very, so much boring couldnt you make up something better?

     

     Are these indicative of our personalities?  Me, boring....you, a slug?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2737.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:05 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Are these indicative of our personalities?  Me, boring....you, a slug?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     making something more better

    2738.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:11 pm

    LIR is checking me out!

    ...and now Trudy too! {#lang_emotions_wtf}



    Edited (2/27/2009) by TheAenigma

    2739.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:14 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    LIR is checking me out!

     

     Aren´t we all? lol lol

    2740.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:15 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    LIR is checking me out!

    ...and now Trudy too! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

     And vicery is checking out Trudy!! 

    And Shaylynn is checking out vicery!!!!  {#lang_emotions_confused}



    Edited (2/27/2009) by girleegirl [cuz i can]

    2741.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:15 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Aren´t we all? lol lol

     

     Yes I modified my post before you posted! 

    2742.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:17 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     And vicery is checking out Trudy!! 

    And Shaylynn is checking out vicery!!!!  {#lang_emotions_confused}

     

     And Alibayrak20 has finished spamming me and is checking out etimologist!

    This place is a web of intrigue...

    2743.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:18 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     And Alibayrak20 has finished spamming me and is checking out etimologist!

    This place is a web of intrigue...

     

    OMG I thought I was special to him!!!!!  {#lang_emotions_cry}

    2744.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:20 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

    OMG I thought I was special to him!!!!!  {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     You mean he was serious to you too and was going to benefit of both of you too? And...and had no aims other than what he mentioned...?!?! {#lang_emotions_wtf}



    Edited (2/27/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (2/27/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (2/27/2009) by TheAenigma [Offffffff bed spooling :(]

    2745.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     You mean he was serious to you too and was going to benefit of both of you too? And...and had no aims other than what he mentioned...?!?! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

     Yes....just voice chatting with no other aims!!!  I feel so betrayed!  WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???  Oh my heart is aching!  Where is my rope?  {#lang_emotions_cry}

    2746.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Yes....just voice chatting with no other aims!!!  I feel so betrayed!  WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???  Oh my heart is aching!  Where is my rope?  {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     Here you are canim



    2747.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:31 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Here you are canim



     

     What a good friend you are...but I don´t think I need it now...LIR is checking me out.  I should go make myself pretty!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

    2748.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:35 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     What a good friend you are...but I don´t think I need it now...LIR is checking me out.  I should go make myself pretty!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

     

     I was sending you a pm - do you HAVE to draw everyone´s attention to the fact! {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

    2749.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:40 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

    OMG I thought I was special to him!!!!!  {#lang_emotions_cry}

     

     Nope, he ´found´ me as well......

    2750.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:41 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     I was sending you a pm - do you HAVE to draw everyone´s attention to the fact! {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

     Ohhhh LIR!!!  I´m so happy!!!  But wait, please....I´m not done getting pretty. 

    Oh god I am so nervous!!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

    2751.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 08:42 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Nope, he ´found´ me as well......

     

     That´s ok, I have moved on!  But vicery´s obsession with you is starting to freak me out!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

    2752.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:01 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     That´s ok, I have moved on!  But vicery´s obsession with you is starting to freak me out!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

     

     He is still looking at Trudy....quick throw her the burka!

    2753.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:18 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     He is still looking at Trudy....quick throw her the burka!

     

     Good idea....here...we can give her some options....

     

    2754.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:21 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Good idea....here...we can give her some options....

     

     

     Where is the dark navy blue one?  Teas probably borrowed it when she left town!  Offff....she always does that!

     

     

    2755.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:28 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Good idea....here...we can give her some options....

     

     

     I like the second from the left, I think it´ll match my hair so gorgeous..... on the inside.. lol lol

    2756.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:28 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Where is the dark navy blue one?  Teas probably borrowed it when she left town!  Offff....she always does that!

     

     

     

    Where is that wicked woman anyway?  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

    2757.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:29 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     I like the second from the left, I think it´ll match my hair so gorgeous..... on the inside.. lol lol

     

     Well quick...put it on!  He is still watching you!!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

    2758.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:31 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Well quick...put it on!  He is still watching you!!  {#lang_emotions_scared}

     

     If he wants to read all 5575 posts, he´ll be there for a while (Babyglam won´t feel lonely! lol  )

    2759.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:34 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    all 5575 posts

     

     Is that all???  {#lang_emotions_wtf}

    2760.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:49 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    all 5575 posts

     

     Is that all???  {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

     Sorry.... <trembling lower lip>

    2761.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:53 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Sorry.... <trembling lower lip>

     

     I am assigning you a new mantra - "be like bod".  Repeat this to yourself as you open 3 year old threads and make a short comment.

    This will keep you in top shape! 

    2762.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 09:56 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     I am assigning you a new mantra - "be like bod".  Repeat this to yourself as you open 3 year old threads and make a short comment.

    This will keep you in top shape! 

     

     Like this one? http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6784  lol lol

    2763.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     27 Feb 2009 Fri 11:30 pm

    Pete Seeger

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s_yumYPFm4

    2764.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:35 am

    Almost 5,000 people sign up to take their place as part of sculptor´s ´living artwork´ in Trafalgar Square

     

     

    Ever since Antony Gormley was commissioned to winch people up on a plinth in the middle of Trafalgar Square to do whatever they wished, doom-mongers have predicted the "living artwork" would become a soapbox for extremists, nudists and the nation´s most depraved exhibitionists.

     

    But for the sculptor, there is only one worse outcome than this: for none of the above to happen.

     

    ...

    "Unless there is a degree of contention up there, it will have no teeth. The project will be limp... I would be very upset if somebody didn´t take their clothes off......

    The nation came closer to finding out who would be drawn to Gormley´s theatre of the soapbox when internet registration began yesterday. By 3pm, 4,700 people had signed up.

     

    Over 100 days, 2,400 randomly selected applicants will be carted on to the plinth for one hour each, to make incendiary speeches across the square or merely stare up at the clouds.

     

    ...

    "There will be those self-selecting exhibitionists that have been burning to communicate their acts or words ...

     

    Gormley said that the artwork would also act as an "important archive" which would become a reference source at sociology and anthropology departments of the London School of Economics.

     

    .. His critics, however, have said the greatest debate is whether this idea constitutes art at all.

    ..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts......1633407.html

    ====

    I will be one of the applicants..woohoo..

    You brits..you will all see what a hairy Turk looks like.lol lol

    2765.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:37 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Almost 5,000 people sign up to take their place as part of sculptor´s ´living artwork´ in Trafalgar Square

     

     

    Ever since Antony Gormley was commissioned to winch people up on a plinth in the middle of Trafalgar Square to do whatever they wished, doom-mongers have predicted the "living artwork" would become a soapbox for extremists, nudists and the nation´s most depraved exhibitionists.

     

    But for the sculptor, there is only one worse outcome than this: for none of the above to happen.

     

    ...

    "Unless there is a degree of contention up there, it will have no teeth. The project will be limp... I would be very upset if somebody didn´t take their clothes off......

    The nation came closer to finding out who would be drawn to Gormley´s theatre of the soapbox when internet registration began yesterday. By 3pm, 4,700 people had signed up.

     

    Over 100 days, 2,400 randomly selected applicants will be carted on to the plinth for one hour each, to make incendiary speeches across the square or merely stare up at the clouds.

     

    ...

    "There will be those self-selecting exhibitionists that have been burning to communicate their acts or words ...

     

    Gormley said that the artwork would also act as an "important archive" which would become a reference source at sociology and anthropology departments of the London School of Economics.

     

    .. His critics, however, have said the greatest debate is whether this idea constitutes art at all.

    ..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts......1633407.html

    ====

    I will be one of the applicants..woohoo..

    You brits..you will all see what a hairy Turk looks like.lol lol

     

     Anthony Gormley is amazing... his sculptures are really wonderful...will try to post some pics..

    2766.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:41 am

    Crosby Beach.....

     

     

    2767.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:44 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Crosby Beach.....

     

     

     

    I remember seeing these pictures..I love them..

    Any more?



    Edited (2/28/2009) by thehandsom

    2768.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:45 am

    Angel of the North...

     

    2769.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:47 am

    All around London...

     

    2770.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:49 am

    the latest news:

     

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/feb/27/ryanair-toilet-charge

    2771.       libralady
    5152 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:51 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    All around London...

     

     

     Blooming heck!!!! Is that a real person or a model?

    2772.       libralady
    5152 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:53 am

     

     

     I am sure Ryaniar will soon charge you to sit in your seat (after you have bought your ticket) or speak to the air hostess, even climb the stairs to get into the plane.  They are doing away with check in desks, everyone will have to check in online........... so more redundancies and longer/slower queues at the passport control................  Banning luggage must be on the agenda soon...................

    2773.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:54 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Blooming heck!!!! Is that a real person or a model?

     

    I think it is a sculpture..no?

    I am sure aenigma will come with more pictures

    btw..LL, will you join me on that plinth? lol

    2774.       libralady
    5152 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:02 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I think it is a sculpture..no?

    I am sure aenigma will come with more pictures

    btw..LL, will you join me on that plinth? lol

     

     and what shall we do on that plinth???? {#lang_emotions_unsure} sit and drink a takeaway starbucks?????

    2775.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:32 am

    SOUNDS SPANISH AND SOUNDS TURKISH TOO

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElMMpIjKJOM

    2776.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 07:41 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     I am sure Ryaniar will soon charge you to sit in your seat (after you have bought your ticket) or speak to the air hostess, even climb the stairs to get into the plane.  They are doing away with check in desks, everyone will have to check in online........... so more redundancies and longer/slower queues at the passport control................  Banning luggage must be on the agenda soon...................

     

     The money for the toilet is not a problem but.... can anyone change this fifty pound note? lol

    2777.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:40 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     The money for the toilet is not a problem but.... can anyone change this fifty pound note? lol

     

    if you post me i will lol

    btw, i thought you were in poland.

    2778.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:47 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    if you post me i will lol

    btw, i thought you were in poland.

     

     No, that´s end of April - and I´m not flying Ryan Air so no need to change....!

    2779.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:56 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Almost 5,000 people sign up to take their place as part of sculptor´s ´living artwork´ in Trafalgar Square

     

     

    Ever since Antony Gormley was commissioned to winch people up on a plinth in the middle of Trafalgar Square to do whatever they wished, doom-mongers have predicted the "living artwork" would become a soapbox for extremists, nudists and the nation´s most depraved exhibitionists.

     

    I will be one of the applicants..woohoo..

    You brits..you will all see what a hairy Turk looks like.lol lol

     

    Performance art exhibitions like this have taken place in London before now -

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2981613.stm

     

    (I take it you didn´t take part H as I can´t see any very hairy bodies or depraved exhibitionists in either of these pics!)

    2780.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 12:58 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     No, that´s end of April - and I´m not flying Ryan Air so no need to change....!

     

    thats not fair now. i put so much hope in your 50pound note

     

    2781.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:01 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Performance art exhibitions like this have taken place in London before now -

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2981613.stm

     

    (I take it you didn´t take part H as I can´t see any very hairy bodies or depraved exhibitionists in either of these pics!)

     

    he he

    I did not..But as I said I am thinking to take part in this one and ´show what a hairy Turk looks like to all Brits´ ..

    2782.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:06 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I am thinking to take part in this one and ´show what a hairy Turk looks like to all Brits´ ..

     

     Certainly you will reach a wider audience much quicker than your current webcam campaign!! lol lol lol

    2783.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:36 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Certainly you will reach a wider audience much quicker than your current webcam campaign!! lol lol lol

    I feel a downright jealousy here Aenigma as if you  wanted to keep me and what you saw in the webcam for yourself ONLY..

     

    2784.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:39 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I feel a downright jealousy here Aenigma as if you  wanted to keep me and what you saw in the webcam for yourself ONLY..

     

     

     Well it WAS a good audition, but I had to decline you because all that hair kind of defeats the object of stripping see?

     

    No offence....it was a nice try...I had no idea you were so athletic?

    2785.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:49 pm

    i am deleting this post..



    Edited (2/28/2009) by thehandsom
    Edited (2/28/2009) by thehandsom

    2786.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 01:59 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Well it WAS a good audition, but I had to decline you because all that hair kind of defeats the object of stripping see?

     

    No offence....it was a nice try...I had no idea you were so athletic?

     

    Thanks {#lang_emotions_shy}

    2787.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 08:56 pm

    Trudy is our number 1 user! She took over Bod!

    2788.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 08:58 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Trudy is our number 1 user! She took over Bod!

     

     I beg to differ {#lang_emotions_rant}

    It is about time you "merged" all my old accounts into one!  I have been stuck under Sui for days now



    Edited (2/28/2009) by TheAenigma

    2789.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 08:59 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I feel a downright jealousy here Aenigma as if you  wanted to keep me and what you saw in the webcam for yourself ONLY..

     

     

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     Well it WAS a good audition, but I had to decline you because all that hair kind of defeats the object of stripping see?

     

    No offence....it was a nice try...I had no idea you were so athletic?

     

    What is going on between the two of you (besides sexual frustrations) only god can tell...

    2790.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:01 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    What is going on between the two of you (besides sexual frustrations) only god can tell...

     

     lol lol lol

    Cat pay attention!

    I was auditioning for a male strip group for the Lounge last night (I needed to attract more punters...I had girls queuing up, but alas...no group

    2791.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:01 pm

    {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    Quoting TheAenigma

     I beg to differ {#lang_emotions_rant}

    It is about time you "merged" all my old accounts into one!  I have been stuck under Sui for days now

     

    {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

    (I remember campaigning for you not to delete your last-but-one nickname, but you still did! Sorry, no compassion from me any more!)

    2792.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:03 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

    {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

    (I remember campaigning for you not to delete your last-but-one nickname, but you still did! Sorry, no compassion from me any more!)

     

     Well...you leave me no choice but to keep posting and posting and posting and posting and posting until I am on top of Sui

    2793.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:05 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     lol lol lol

    Cat pay attention!

    I was auditioning for a male strip group for the Lounge last night (I needed to attract more punters...I had girls queuing up, but alas...no group

     

    Of course I´m paying attention.. (I was peeking at the Lounge at 10pm UK time.. ) But I´m thinking that since nobody showed up, we could have had a "fur show" at the least...



    Edited (2/28/2009) by catwoman
    Edited (2/28/2009) by catwoman

    2794.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:06 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     Well...you leave me no choice but to keep posting and posting and posting and posting and posting until I am on top of Sui

     

    Luckily, Sui is not a tough competition... wait till you get to Roswitha.. lol

    2795.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:06 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    (I was peeking at the Launge at 10pm UK time.. )

     

     Some kind of weird Polish sitting room?

    2796.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:10 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Some kind of weird Polish sitting room?

     

    I don´t know what you´re talking about!!! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

    2797.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:20 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Luckily, Sui is not a tough competition... wait till you get to Roswitha.. lol

     

     Ros?  Nah, she was a piece of cake! 

    2798.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:21 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Ros?  Nah, she was a piece of cake! 

     

    I doubt though that Aenigma would be willing to use your dirty tricks to bump up her score! {#lang_emotions_wink}{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}



    Edited (2/28/2009) by catwoman

    2799.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:26 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I doubt though that Aenigma would be willing to use your dirty tricks to bump up her score! {#lang_emotions_wink}{#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

    You mean like bod? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2800.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     28 Feb 2009 Sat 09:49 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Ros?  Nah, she was a piece of cake! 

     

     lollollol

    2801.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     01 Mar 2009 Sun 12:06 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Trudy is our number 1 user! She took over Bod!

     

     You won´t hear me if anyone wants to be on top. (As long as it´s not literally.... lol )

    2802.       portokal
    2516 posts
     01 Mar 2009 Sun 12:51 am

    Do You Speak English? ))))))))

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fijBUeqiW0g

    2803.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     01 Mar 2009 Sun 11:12 pm

    Siegfried and Roy stage comeback for charity

     

    Illusionists Siegfried and Roy headed back to the stage for a one-night-only comeback performance Saturday, more than five years after a brutal tiger attack ended the careers of the longtime Las Vegas duo.

    The charity performance was promoted as the "the final bow" for Roy Horn and Siegfried Fischbacher, the German-born showmen responsible for one of the most successful shows in Las Vegas history.

    The two had been stage partners for 45 years when a 380-pound Bengal tiger named Montecore sank its teeth into Horn´s neck during a live performance and dragged him offstage in front of a stunned audience.

    Horn, now 64, was partially paralyzed, suffering a damaged neck artery and crushed windpipe in the October 2003 attack.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jrGaj3qR8aaeUNwbrP42bYFfL6JgD96KR5T00

    2804.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     01 Mar 2009 Sun 11:26 pm

    Victorian bushfire survivor, Sam the koala, a global star

     

    Mr Tree said he was in the middle of backburning at Mirboo North when he saw the stricken koala.

    "I could see she had sore feet and was in trouble, so I pulled over the fire truck. She just plonked herself down, as if to say ´I´m beat´," he said.

    "I offered her a drink and she drank three bottles.

    "The most amazing part was when she grabbed my hand. I will never forget that."

     

    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6480910,00.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

    I want a Koala!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}



    Edited (3/1/2009) by tamikidakika

    2805.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     01 Mar 2009 Sun 11:29 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    Victorian bushfire survivor, Sam the koala, a global star

     

    Mr Tree said he was in the middle of backburning at Mirboo North when he saw the stricken koala.

    "I could see she had sore feet and was in trouble, so I pulled over the fire truck. She just plonked herself down, as if to say ´I´m beat´," he said.

    "I offered her a drink and she drank three bottles.

    "The most amazing part was when she grabbed my hand. I will never forget that."

     

    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6480910,00.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

    I want a Koala!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     I want TWO!

    2806.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 12:16 am

    awwwwww, tami, what a touching story just cant believe my own eyes

    there is a change in you, tami

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    Victorian bushfire survivor, Sam the koala, a global star

     

    Mr Tree said he was in the middle of backburning at Mirboo North when he saw the stricken koala.

    "I could see she had sore feet and was in trouble, so I pulled over the fire truck. She just plonked herself down, as if to say ´I´m beat´," he said.

    "I offered her a drink and she drank three bottles.

    "The most amazing part was when she grabbed my hand. I will never forget that."

     

    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6480910,00.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

    I want a Koala!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     

    2807.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 12:16 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

    awwwwww, tami, what a touching story just cant believe my own eyes

    there is a change in you, tami

     

     

     

     

    lol lol

    2808.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 12:28 am

    today is the 1st of March! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

    oh my! i just have realized it!

     

    thats what my caught lol

    2809.       adana
    416 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 12:44 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

    today is the 1st of March! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

    oh my! i just have realized it!

     

    thats what my caught lol

     

     spring is coming{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2810.       portokal
    2516 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 12:49 am

    long live spring!

    though we have snow round here... until it melts, roses will blossom.

     

    (i hope Libra will not move this topic to my poems-passages )

    Quoting adana

     

     

     spring is coming{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     

    2811.       adana
    416 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 01:31 am

     

    Quoting portokal

    long live spring!

    though we have snow round here... until it melts, roses will blossom.

     

    (i hope Libra will not move this topic to my poems-passages )

     

     

     

     ehh...libra is too down to earth..spring will not touch her ,i think

     

     

     

     

     



    Edited (3/2/2009) by adana [ehh..bad spooling..]

    2812.       alameda
    3499 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 03:03 am

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    Victorian bushfire survivor, Sam the koala, a global star

     

    Mr Tree said he was in the middle of backburning at Mirboo North when he saw the stricken koala.

    "I could see she had sore feet and was in trouble, so I pulled over the fire truck. She just plonked herself down, as if to say ´I´m beat´," he said.

    "I offered her a drink and she drank three bottles.

    "The most amazing part was when she grabbed my hand. I will never forget that."

     

    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6480910,00.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

    I want a Koala!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    Beautiful! Thank you. Humans can be so nice sometimes.

     

    2813.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 04:10 pm

    Real Mermaid

     

    A woman who lost both her legs as a child has been turned into a mermaid by the Lord of the Rings special effects team so she can go swimming.

    Nadya Vessey was born with a condition that meant her legs would never develop properly ..

     

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01356/NadyaVessey_1356027c.jpg

     

    nat_mermaid_01-2

     

    http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95390/95390631.jpg    http://images2.image-data.com/images/91/thumbs/95390/95390633.jpg

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new....d-tail-to-help-her-swim.html

     

     


    2814.       mltm
    3690 posts
     02 Mar 2009 Mon 11:53 pm

    Some facts about eye color

     

    "You probably knew that brown is the most common eye color worldwide, but did you know that green is by far the rarest? In fact, less than 2 percent of the global population possesses green eyes. As a country, Turkey has the highest percentage of citizens who have green eyes, at 20 percent. There are a number of countries – generally located in Asia, South America, and the Middle East – where green eyes are almost completely absent among the population."

     

    Did you know that blue eyes are the most common eye color for Caucasians"

     

    Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.

    2815.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:20 am

     

    Quoting mltm

    Some facts about eye color

     

    "You probably knew that brown is the most common eye color worldwide, but did you know that green is by far the rarest? In fact, less than 2 percent of the global population possesses green eyes. As a country, Turkey has the highest percentage of citizens who have green eyes, at 20 percent. There are a number of countries – generally located in Asia, South America, and the Middle East – where green eyes are almost completely absent among the population."

     

    Did you know that blue eyes are the most common eye color for Caucasians"

     

    Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.

     

     Interesting.... I also understand that the brown eye gene is more dominent so that if a blue eyed and brown eyed couple have a child, he/she will usually have brown eyes



    Edited (3/3/2009) by TheAenigma

    2816.       portokal
    2516 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:39 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhX1tvTgqC8&feature=PlayList&p=5E2E348FE2BE5925&playnext=1&index=10

     

    Jan Svankmajer - Dimensions of Dialogue

    2817.       mltm
    3690 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:52 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Interesting.... I also understand that the brown eye gene is more dominent so that if a blue eyed and brown eyed couple have a child, he/she will usually have brown eyes

     

    Brown is dominent to blue eye, but the standard eye color theory tells that the mother and the father have two eye color allenes in their genes.

    B= brown eye allele

    b = blue eye allele

    If his/her eye color genes are BB, then it´s a very high probability that with a blue eyed person which is bb, he/she will have a brown eyed child, but if the brown eyed person have genes as Bb, which means that pysically he has brown eyes but genetically half of its eye color genes are blue, it just does not reflect to his pysical apperance. So, in this case, with a blue eyed person (bb), the probability of having a blue eyed child is two times higher than the probability of having a brown eyed child. With this theory, even two brown eyed person if both of them have Bb genes, can have blue eyed child.

    Though, this theory is very simplistic, and it does not explain the color variations and some eye colors such as "hazel" (which is not one color in fact but a mixture of different colors). Now, it´s thought that the eye color determining allenes are more than two and the process is much more complicated.

     



    Edited (3/3/2009) by mltm
    Edited (3/3/2009) by mltm
    Edited (3/3/2009) by mltm
    Edited (3/3/2009) by mltm [my attempts to add a picture failed]

    2818.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:57 am

     

    Quoting mltm

    Some facts about eye color

     

     

    Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.

    Actually what caught my eye in Turkey were not green but brownish eyes. Not really brown but more like honey, I haven´t seen that colour in Europe. I liked it a lot.

     

    Hmm..I´m blue-eyed, Mr Daydreamer is brown-eyed and I wonder what colour our son inherited. For now he´s got blue eyes but I´ve heard that it may change...{#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

    2819.       alameda
    3499 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:59 am

     

    Quoting mltm

     

     

    Brown is dominent to blue eye, but the standard eye color theory tells that the mother and the father have two eye color allenes in their genes.

    B= brown eye allele

    b = blue eye allele

    If his/her eye color genes are BB, then it´s a very high probability that with a blue eyed person which is bb, he/she will have a brown eyed child, but if the brown eyed person have genes as Bb, which means that pysically he has brown eyes but genetically half of its eye color genes are blue, it just does not reflect to his pysical apperance. So, in this case, with a blue eyed person (bb), the probability of having a blue eyed child is two times higher than the probability of having a brown eyed child. With this theory, even two brown eyed person if both of them have Bb genes, can have blue eyed child.

    Though, this theory is very simplistic, and it does not explain the color variations and some eye colors such as "hazel" (which is not one color in fact but a mixture of different colors). Now, it´s thought that the eye color determining allenes are more than two and the process is much more complicated.

     

     

    Very interesting....it explains a great deal...but what about green eyes? From what little research on the matter I´ve done, it seems Neanderthal had green eyes. Aren´t blue eyes are a relatively recent mutation?

    2820.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 01:10 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    Actually what caught my eye in Turkey were not green but brownish eyes. Not really brown but more like honey, I haven´t seen that colour in Europe. I liked it a lot.

     

    Hmm..I´m blue-eyed, Mr Daydreamer is brown-eyed and I wonder what colour our son inherited. For now he´s got blue eyes but I´ve heard that it may change...{#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     

    DD..

    Gosh!!

    My blood started travel very fast in my body now..

    I will send you a close range picture of my eyes..

    2821.       mltm
    3690 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 01:19 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Very interesting....it explains a great deal...but what about green eyes? From what little research on the matter I´ve done, it seems Neanderthal had green eyes. Aren´t blue eyes are a relatively recent mutation?

    There´s green allele (G) too, like blue (b) and brown (B). G is dominant to b but recessive to B.

    Though somewhere else I saw that scientists still don’t know exactly how green eyes happen. They suspect that a separate gene causes green eyes and have even named this unidentified gene gey.

    But eye color genetics is very complicated. A good explanation has not been found yet.

     

    And don´t know about Neanderthal.

     

    In fact, it´s an interesting subject, but I just learned about this simple theory at school which basically explains the eye color genetics. Otherwise, I don´t have much idea about genetics.

    2822.       mltm
    3690 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 01:21 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    Actually what caught my eye in Turkey were not green but brownish eyes. Not really brown but more like honey, I haven´t seen that colour in Europe. I liked it a lot.

     

    Hmm..I´m blue-eyed, Mr Daydreamer is brown-eyed and I wonder what colour our son inherited. For now he´s got blue eyes but I´ve heard that it may change...{#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     

    If you know the eye color of your husband´s parents, you can have more idea.

    Check here: http://museum.thetech.org/ugenetics/eyeCalc/eyecalculator.html

    You can make eye color calculation of your child. Maybe, he will have blue eyes.

    2823.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 01:23 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    DD..

    Gosh!!

    My blood started travel very fast in my body now..

    I will send you a close range picture of my eyes..

     

    of course you will. photos of your eyes, your cars, your other wives, medical tests results, recommendation letters from all mistresses - like you always do on a weekly basis

    2824.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 01:29 am

     

    Quoting mltm

     

     

    If you know the eye color of your husband´s parents, you can have more idea.

    Check here: http://museum.thetech.org/ugenetics/eyeCalc/eyecalculator.html

    You can make eye color calculation of your child. Maybe, he will have blue eyes.

     

    Hey! That´s fun. Well the odds are: 35% blue, 15% green, 50% brown (I hope for blue!)

    2825.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:42 am

     

    Quoting mltm

     

    There´s green allele (G) too, like blue (b) and brown (B). G is dominant to b but recessive to B.

    Though somewhere else I saw that scientists still don’t know exactly how green eyes happen. They suspect that a separate gene causes green eyes and have even named this unidentified gene gey.

    But eye color genetics is very complicated. A good explanation has not been found yet.

     

    And don´t know about Neanderthal.

     

    In fact, it´s an interesting subject, but I just learned about this simple theory at school which basically explains the eye color genetics. Otherwise, I don´t have much idea about genetics.

    I have a child in my class of Pakistani origin who has beautiful blue eyes.  She is also very fair skinned and her hair is not dark brown by any means.  I think there is a region in Pakistan where the inhabitants have these characteristics.  Another Pakistani heritage child has the most striking green eyes.  When he first started nursery, he was very self conscious.

     

    Last, but by no means least, there is an Indian heritage child in our school who has bright red hair!!!!!  It looks like something out of a bottle, but it is completely genuine.

     

    2826.       alameda
    3499 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:47 am

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

    I have a child in my class of Pakistani origin who has beautiful blue eyes.  She is also very fair skinned and her hair is not dark brown by any means.  I think there is a region in Pakistan where the inhabitants have these characteristics.  Another Pakistani heritage child has the most striking green eyes.  When he first started nursery, he was very self conscious.

     

    Last, but by no means least, there is an Indian heritage child in our school who has bright red hair!!!!!  It looks like something out of a bottle, but it is completely genuine.

     

     

     Remember that amazing photograph of the Afghan girl  with green eyes?

     

    I think they are decendants of Alexander´s group. There are quite a few from that area with redish hair, blue and green eyes and fair skin.

    2827.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:51 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     Remember that amazing photograph of the Afghan girl  with green eyes?

     

    I think they are decendants of Alexander´s group. There are quite a few from that area with redish hair, blue and green eyes and fair skin.

    The odd thing is, the boy with the red hair has quite a dark complexion and it really does make his hair look a false colour.

     

    2828.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:51 am

    Ouch!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9hXvGdAos0

    2829.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 05:13 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     Remember that amazing photograph of the Afghan girl  with green eyes?

     

    I think they are decendants of Alexander´s group. There are quite a few from that area with redish hair, blue and green eyes and fair skin.

     

    Afghans are of Indo origin just like Europeans, so I don`t see anything surprising about that.

    2830.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 10:12 am

    The smell of rotten eggs makes men randy

     

    A malodorous gas behind the smell of rotting eggs has been found to play a key role in giving men erections.

    ...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie..men-randy-1635901.html

     

    No more egg throwing for men..

    2831.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 11:15 am

    interesting! if some of the borats happen to be a bit blondish, they actually have green eyes. grrrrr! weird. i ve got a few green eyed cousins.

     

    Quoting mltm

    Some facts about eye color

     

    "You probably knew that brown is the most common eye color worldwide, but did you know that green is by far the rarest? In fact, less than 2 percent of the global population possesses green eyes. As a country, Turkey has the highest percentage of citizens who have green eyes, at 20 percent. There are a number of countries – generally located in Asia, South America, and the Middle East – where green eyes are almost completely absent among the population."

     

    Did you know that blue eyes are the most common eye color for Caucasians"

     

    Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.

     

     

    2832.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 11:19 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     Remember that amazing photograph of the Afghan girl  with green eyes?

     

    I think they are decendants of Alexander´s group. There are quite a few from that area with redish hair, blue and green eyes and fair skin.

     

    i heard about that too. they seem to be a sensational ethnic group living out up there in the mountains, where thats how they were isolated for centuries.

     

    on the other hand when you look at greeks, they dont seem to be blue eyed blondes.

    2833.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:06 pm

    this website didnt want to work properly for about 10 mins (i think)

    2834.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 12:24 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    this website didnt want to work properly for about 10 mins (i think)

     

    I know! I had to use the quote option to read what you guys posted (nothing interesting really {#lang_emotions_razz}

    2835.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:06 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    this website didnt want to work properly for about 10 mins (i think)

     

    For some reason Aenigma´s post about the cricketers in Pakistan ´messed up´ the page.  With her permission I permanently deleted it and she can try again.

    2836.       mltm
    3690 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:36 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    For some reason Aenigma´s post about the cricketers in Pakistan ´messed up´ the page.  With her permission I permanently deleted it and she can try again.

     

    It´s the curse of the pakistani terrorists.

     

    Don´t mess with them Aenigma!



    Edited (3/3/2009) by mltm

    2837.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:47 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    I know! I had to use the quote option to read what you guys posted (nothing interesting really {#lang_emotions_razz}

     

    even green eyed borats were no interesting to you?

    aengima posted something about terrorists from pakistan, not interesting?

    2838.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:48 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    For some reason Aenigma´s post about the cricketers in Pakistan ´messed up´ the page.  With her permission I permanently deleted it and she can try again.

     

    i think giving a link will do better.

     

    AE {#lang_emotions_get_you} stay away from hairy´s thread

    2839.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:49 pm

    lol i thought a rotten fish did a better job

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    The smell of rotten eggs makes men randy

     

    A malodorous gas behind the smell of rotting eggs has been found to play a key role in giving men erections.

    ...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie..men-randy-1635901.html

     

    No more egg throwing for men..

     

     

    2840.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:53 pm

     

    Quoting mltm

     

     

    It´s the curse of the pakistani terrorists.

     

    Don´t mess with them Aenigma!

     

     It is all a conspiracy

    2841.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:54 pm

    alpha´s weird threads

    2842.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:55 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    lol i thought a rotten fish did a better job

     

     

     

     

    Me too actually.But i guess a rotten fish is not that powerful without a dog..

    2843.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 02:58 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    alpha´s weird threads

     

    We just learn that if a woman puts up a picture in which she is kissing, she is not allowed to talk about women´s right what so ever..

    next level is, we stone the women who work in brothels lol lol

    2844.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:00 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    We just learn that if a woman puts up a picture in which she is kissing, she is not allowed to talk about women´s right what so ever..

    next level is, we stone the women who work in brothels lol lol

     

    Yes I noticed that too

    What is more shocking is that Gentlemen are disappointing me these days...the other day when it was raining, I noticed that NO GENTLEMAN took off his coat and placed in the puddle for me

     

    By the way, are we still in 1709?



    Edited (3/3/2009) by TheAenigma

    2845.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:01 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Me too actually.But i guess a rotten fish is not that powerful without a dog..

     

    but let us be precise: a german shepherd! where should i place the toilet seat? im kinda puzzled now over positions. i cant place them in order and connect somehow: rotten fish, german shepherd, toilet seat, a print paper as a toilet paper {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

    2846.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:05 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    Yes I noticed that too

    What is more shocking is that Gentlemen are disappointing me these days...the other day when it was raining, I noticed that NO GENTLEMAN took off his coat and placed in the puddle for me

     

    By the way, are we still in 1709?

     

    unfortunately millions and millions are further than that

    2847.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:40 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    Yes I noticed that too

    What is more shocking is that Gentlemen are disappointing me these days...the other day when it was raining, I noticed that NO GENTLEMAN took off his coat and placed in the puddle for me

     

    By the way, are we still in 1709?

     

    I guess, you have to check what the definition of gentelmen for you..

    2848.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:43 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I guess, you have to check what the definition of gentelmen for you..

     

     I don´t need to check!  It is an old word for a titled man who had money and didn´t work (same as Lady).  It is now used by signwriters on Public Toilets and by people who still love stereotypical roles for "ladies" and "gentlemen".  It can also be used for a man who has good manners.

     

    OK?

    2849.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:49 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I don´t need to check!  It is an old word for a titled man who had money and didn´t work (same as Lady).  It is now used by signwriters on Public Toilets and by people who still love stereotypical roles for "ladies" and "gentlemen".  It can also be used for a man who has good manners.

     

    OK?

     

    It does not seem that you do have a definition for yourself..

    But that is fine. lol

    2850.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:51 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I don´t need to check!  It is an old word for a titled man who had money and didn´t work (same as Lady).  It is now used by signwriters on Public Toilets and by people who still love stereotypical roles for "ladies" and "gentlemen".  It can also be used for a man who has good manners.

     

    OK?

     

    i prefer the latter

    2851.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:53 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    i prefer the latter

     

     What happened to your feistiness?  You remind me of the saying "the cat is a saint when there are no mice around"... lol

    2852.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 03:55 pm

    say it in a plain english, i dont understand latin

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     What happened to your feistiness?  You remind me of the saying "the cat is a saint when there are no mice around"... lol

     

     

    2853.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 05:10 pm

    Naked protest against economic crisis..

    It says :

    Naked at the university belt to protest the looming tuition fee increase and to call on the government to impose a moratorium on the hikes due to the global economic crisis, in Manila, Philippines, March 2, 2009.

     

    Manila naked tuition fee increase protest

     

    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/62203/62203002.jpg

     

    Solidarity with these students please..

     

     

     

     

     



    Edited (3/3/2009) by thehandsom

    2854.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 05:35 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Naked protest against economic crisis..

    It says :

    Naked at the university belt to protest the looming tuition fee increase and to call on the government to impose a moratorium on the hikes due to the global economic crisis, in Manila, Philippines, March 2, 2009.

     

    Manila naked tuition fee increase protest

     

    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/62203/62203002.jpg

     

    Solidarity with these students please..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     Very bad photographs

    They should have got their....faces

    2855.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 05:54 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Naked protest against economic crisis..

    It says :

    Naked at the university belt to protest the looming tuition fee increase and to call on the government to impose a moratorium on the hikes due to the global economic crisis, in Manila, Philippines, March 2, 2009.

     

    Manila naked tuition fee increase protest

     

    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/thumbs/62203/62203002.jpg

     

    Solidarity with these students please..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     I am sure Mum and Dad are so proud of their fine young college students!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

    2856.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Mar 2009 Tue 10:13 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I am sure Mum and Dad are so proud of their fine young college students!  {#lang_emotions_shy}

     

     they are ´standing proud´ for what they believe in {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2857.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 10:36 pm

    Michelle Obama´s Tears

     

    PRESIDENT Barack Obama is caught up in a new gay sex and drug scandal - and his loving wife is heartbroken, sources tell GLOBE in a blockbuster world exclusive. Find out all the details of the letter Michelle Obama received from the MAN who claims to be her husband´s lover - and how America´s devastated First Lady is fighting back against a shocking new tell-all book. It´s must reading!

     

    http://www.globemagazine.com/story/310

     

     

     

     

    ahahahahhaaa!

    2858.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 10:38 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    Michelle Obama´s Tears

     

    PRESIDENT Barack Obama is caught up in a new gay sex and drug scandal - and his loving wife is heartbroken, sources tell GLOBE in a blockbuster world exclusive. Find out all the details of the letter Michelle Obama received from the MAN who claims to be her husband´s lover - and how America´s devastated First Lady is fighting back against a shocking new tell-all book. It´s must reading!

     

    http://www.globemagazine.com/story/310

     

     

     

     

    ahahahahhaaa!

     

     It was BOUND to happen - they will dig the dirt on him more than any other president....does it REALLY affect his job as President?

     

    Or is it a joke.... lol

    Your link does not work   Aptal



    Edited (3/4/2009) by TheAenigma

    2859.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 10:46 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     It was BOUND to happen - they will dig the dirt on him more than any other president....does it REALLY affect his job as President?

     

    Or is it a joke.... lol

    Your link does not work   Aptal

     

    it does work on my comp. it`s maybe because the english govt. is blocking the news{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2860.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 10:51 pm

     {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    it does work on my comp. it`s maybe because the english govt. is blocking the news{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     News?  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

    2861.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:01 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    it does work on my comp. it`s maybe because the english govt. is blocking the news{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     Doesn´t work for me either - is the Turkish government banning it too?

    2862.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:02 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

     News?  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast} 

     

    hönk?

    2863.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:06 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    hönk?

     

     Ouh that is the EXACT same noise that LIR´s Admin-mobile makes when she beeps the horn

    2864.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:11 pm

    Networkboy has been fixed on Lethizia8 for the past hour or so........... must be at the same TC school as Babyglam {#lang_emotions_scared}

    2865.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:17 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Networkboy has been fixed on Lethizia8 for the past hour or so........... must be at the same TC school as Babyglam {#lang_emotions_scared}

     

     I think they have found true love in the chat room {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2866.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:20 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     I think they have found true love in the chat room {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     The two timing rat! {#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

    2867.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:22 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     The two timing rat! {#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

     

     Oh has my spying spoiled a beautiful ermmmm relationship ?? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2868.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:23 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     The two timing rat! {#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

     

     Only two?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    He isn´t very good dudu material yet.  Handsom....get in the chat room immediately and give network boy lessons!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2869.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:24 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    hönk?

     

     Quack?

    2870.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:26 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Only two?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    He isn´t very good dudu material yet.  Handsom....get in the chat room immediately and give network boy lessons!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

    GG.. {#lang_emotions_get_you}

    2871.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     04 Mar 2009 Wed 11:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    GG.. {#lang_emotions_get_you}

     

     Yes canim?  {#lang_emotions_angel}

    2872.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:16 am

    Nothing wrong with some poppers and sweaty man-to-man love...

    Hehhe... the llink works fine by the way (for me)... Can´t wait for the book. I wonder if he is a top or a bottom. Or, better yet, just verstile depending on the occassion and the mood... Wow

    Quoting tamikidakika

    Michelle Obama´s Tears

     

    PRESIDENT Barack Obama is caught up in a new gay sex and drug scandal - and his loving wife is heartbroken, sources tell GLOBE in a blockbuster world exclusive. Find out all the details of the letter Michelle Obama received from the MAN who claims to be her husband´s lover - and how America´s devastated First Lady is fighting back against a shocking new tell-all book. It´s must reading!

     

    http://www.globemagazine.com/story/310

     

     

     

     

    ahahahahhaaa!

     

     

    2873.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 01:59 am

    Stuffed love: The baby monkey whose surrogate mother is a cuddly toy

     

    A baby monkey is being hand-reared at a zoo with the aid of a cuddly toy acting as a surrogate mother after being shunned by the primate who gave birth to her.

    Keepers at Port Lympne Wild Animal Park, near Ashford, Kent, stepped in to care for the infant DeBrazza’s Monkey after her mother experienced an exhausting and difficult labour.

    Bamboo, 19, gave birth by Caesarean section which left her unable to show normal maternal instincts towards her offspring.
    ..
    Her new brown furry friend matches the DeBrazza’s monkey’s colouring and comes with a mechanised beating heart, which flutters when the baby squeezes it.

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1gate-mother-cuddly-toy.html

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7918612.stm

     

    Monkey

     

     

     

     

     

    2874.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 07:10 am

    http://www.physorg.com/news155316624.html

     

    There is convincing evidence for an increased risk of cardiovascular and metabolic complications associated with shift work, but the underlying mechanisms were largely unknown,” said Frank Scheer, a neuroscientist in BWH’s Division of Sleep Medicine, associate director of the Medical Chronobiology Program at BWH, a Harvard Medical School instructor in medicine, and lead author of the paper. “We studied the influence of circadian misalignment, typical of shift work, on physiological pathways involved in glucose metabolism, the regulation of body weight, and cardiovascular function as a possible mechanism.”

    Scheer also noted that circadian misalignment caused three patients with no history of diabetes to show post-meal glucose levels typical of those with pre-diabetes. “This suggests that in some otherwise healthy people, irregular sleep patterns could increase the risk for the development of diabetes.

     

    Hmmmm time I looked for a change in vocation {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2875.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 09:31 am

    The trilogy of terror are logged in all alone right now.....AE, handsom, and me!!  {#lang_emotions_ninja}



    Edited (3/5/2009) by girleegirl [the ever present main page lurker just popped up! ]

    2876.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 09:36 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    The trilogy of terror are logged in all alone right now.....AE, handsom, and me!!  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

     

     and Babyglam

    2877.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 09:39 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     and Babyglam

     

     Yes, yes, I edited my post.....she wasn´t there when I first wrote it.   How could you not read my whole post?????   {#lang_emotions_sad}

    2878.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 10:09 am

    GG one of theH´s furbugs jumped off and got online again...can you do the necessary?

    2879.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 10:13 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    GG one of theH´s furbugs jumped off and got online again...can you do the necessary?

     

     Why can´t you do it?  {#lang_emotions_rant}

    2880.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 12:33 pm

    very interesting ... CNN Catches UFO on Camera During Inauguration ( obama )

     

    Did you see this video ??

     

    here1

     

    here 2

     

    more details here

     

    i think we are not alone {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

     

     



    Edited (3/5/2009) by cybernetics [link changed]
    Edited (3/5/2009) by cybernetics [i changed the 1. link]

    2881.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 01:43 pm

    From the Translation Forum:-

     

    biraz paraya ihtiyacim bana biraz gönderebilirmisin seni seviyorum cevap yaz optüm seni dudaklarindan

     

     lol

    2882.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 01:49 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    From the Translation Forum:-

     

    biraz paraya ihtiyacim bana biraz gönderebilirmisin seni seviyorum cevap yaz optüm seni dudaklarindan

     

     lol

     lol

     

     lol,  .. i think he wants to buy PS3 ..

     

    upps i saw it now, he wants to set up a work  



    Edited (3/5/2009) by cybernetics [i saw the orginal message in Translation section ...]

    2883.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:22 pm

     

    Quoting cybernetics

     

     

     lol,  .. i think he wants to buy PS3 ..

     

     Ouh I would prefer a Wii system to PS3

    2884.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:26 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Ouh I would prefer a Wii system to PS3

     

     For interactive games yeah Wii is ok... but for the graphics and etc... PS3 is the way better

    2885.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:28 pm

     

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

     For interactive games yeah Wii is ok...

     

     That is what makes it so great

    2886.       turquoise
    938 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:32 pm

    i only need a razor and nothing more.... any takers?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2887.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:34 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     That is what makes it so great

     

    but you dont always that great company to make it greater with Wii...

     

    2888.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:42 pm

     

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

    but you dont always that great company to make it greater with Wii...

     

     

     I love it - especially the ski jumping and bowling   It is the only kind of computer game I like - I hate them usually - just sitting staring at a screen...Zzzzzzzzz!

    2889.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 02:42 pm

    Hey friends,  this is great lol

     

    if you had a "dudu" and if he needs an "iphone 3g", dont pay too much for an "iphone" just say hello to the " HiPHone"

     

    you can buy it from here :

    Check this

     

    another info

     

     

    Another fake products



    Edited (3/5/2009) by cybernetics [added link]

    2890.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 03:00 pm

    Great idea!  Fake products for fake men! 

    I like it! {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2891.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 03:01 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I love it - especially the ski jumping and bowling   It is the only kind of computer game I like - I hate them usually - just sitting staring at a screen...Zzzzzzzzz!

     

     You should see me then when i play football game

     

    its better than watching any premiership game

    2892.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 03:02 pm

     

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

     You should see me then when i play football game

     

    its better than watching any premiership game

     

     Yes but you are not ACTUALLY MOVING!  At least with Wii (especially Wii Fit) you are physically moving around the room!

    2893.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 03:17 pm

    Definitely !!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Great idea!  Fake products for fake men! 

    I like it! {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     



    Edited (3/5/2009) by cybernetics

    2894.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 03:24 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Yes but you are not ACTUALLY MOVING!  At least with Wii (especially Wii Fit) you are physically moving around the room!

     

     Well when we play with my brother we travel all around the room!! especially when me or he scores

    2895.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 05:35 pm

     

    Quoting cybernetics

    Definitely !!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

     

     

     

     Cybernetics you are like a breath of fresh air in the cynical, bitter and twisted world of Turkish Class

    2896.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 06:17 pm

     Oops... wrong target....



    Edited (3/5/2009) by Trudy

    2897.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 06:25 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Cybernetics you are like a breath of fresh air in the cynical, bitter and twisted world of Turkish Class

     

    And as if we are only CO2 of tc..

    2898.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 06:28 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    And as if we are only CO2 of tc..

     

     maybe more nitrogen {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

    2899.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 08:47 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    And as if we are only CO2 of tc..

     

    Sir! That´s a lie! You´re a nirtous oxide (N2O) {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    2900.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 09:40 pm

     {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Sir! That´s a lie! You´re a nirtous oxide (N2O) {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     

    2901.       libralady
    5152 posts
     05 Mar 2009 Thu 09:53 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Sir! That´s a lie! You´re a nirtous oxide (N2O) {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     All GHG ........... {#lang_emotions_razz}

    2902.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 01:45 am

    Obama´s Guantanamo?

    When it comes to Bagram, tactics and arguments remain unchanged from the Bush years. No wonder human rights lawyers have lately taken to referring to that prison as the ´other Guantanamo´

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/print.php?newid=217810

    2903.       bod
    5999 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 02:48 am

     

    Quoting Roswitha

    Obama´s Guantanamo?

     When it comes to Bagram, tactics and arguments remain unchanged from the Bush years. No wonder human rights lawyers have lately taken to referring to that prison as the ´other Guantanamo´

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/print.php?newid=217810

     

    Nice to see a well balanced and impartial article - lol

    2904.       libralady
    5152 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 04:28 pm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7925009.stm

     

    Is this the luckiest man alive?  Turkish man walking beside a lorry that gets hit by an on coming train,  he was the wrong side of the lorry to see the train coming.  He is knocked under the lorry and hit by the train and has escaped with a few cuts and bruises................. and life is beautiful!!

    2905.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 04:40 pm

    Elisabeth has joined Babyglam in staring at the Main Page

     

    IT IS LIKE STEPFORD WIVES! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

    Any TC woman who is funny or rebelious is being killed and replaced with an android who is passive and just stares at the main page and waits to be sent spam!

     

    IT IS ALL A CONSPIRACY

    2906.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 04:56 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Elisabeth has joined Babyglam in staring at the Main Page

     

    IT IS LIKE STEPFORD WIVES! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

    Any TC woman who is funny or rebelious is being killed and replaced with an android who is passive and just stares at the main page and waits to be sent spam!

     

    IT IS ALL A CONSPIRACY

     

     I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago!  Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish!  Why do people think I want to learn Turkish????  If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!!  I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!! 

     

    Anyway, this Stepford Wife thing is completely untrue!  TC is my homepage at work.  Occasionally, I get called away from my desk when OTHER annoying person wants me to do some WORK!  OFFFFFF!! So glad its Friday!! 



    Edited (3/6/2009) by Elisabeth

    2907.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 05:01 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago!  Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish!  Why do people think I want to learn Turkish????  If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!!  I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!! 

     

    Anyway, this Stepford Wife thing is completely untrue!  TC is my homepage at work.  Occasionally, I get called away from my desk when OTHER annoying person wants me to do some WORK!  OFFFFFF!! So glad its Friday!! 

     

     Thank god! You areeeeeeee aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! {#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

    2908.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 05:51 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago!  Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish!  Why do people think I want to learn Turkish????  If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!!  I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!! 

     

    Anyway, this Stepford Wife thing is completely untrue!  TC is my homepage at work.  Occasionally, I get called away from my desk when OTHER annoying person wants me to do some WORK!  OFFFFFF!! So glad its Friday!! 

     

    do you seriously think we´re that naive? We know very well that it´s your dudu manipulating you in order to get info about new sources of mobiles and laptops...

    2909.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 07:08 pm

    Seeing the fine art of mining is back.... digging up from far beneath recent level.... lol lol

    2910.       bod
    5999 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 07:20 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Seeing the fine art of mining is back....

     

    For some reason I read that as the art of miming........

    Not only once, but several time - dunno why

    2911.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 07:31 pm

     

    Quoting bod

     

     

    For some reason I read that as the art of miming........

    Not only once, but several time - dunno why

     

     Because mining took all your time? lol

    2912.       bod
    5999 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 08:15 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Because mining took all your time? lol

     

    I might be good at digging myself into holes - but I´m not so sure about mining!!!

    2913.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 10:01 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago!  Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish!  Why do people think I want to learn Turkish????  If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!!  I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!! 

     

     

     

    Oh

    Has it really been 20 years? I still remember the first phone you sent me..Of course mobile phones were not invented at the time and it was really big..

    And will you pass me the name of that spammer please? (he will have a second sunnet)..{#lang_emotions_wink}



    Edited (3/6/2009) by thehandsom

    2914.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 10:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Oh

    Has it really been 20 years? I still remember the first phone you sent me..Of course mobile phones were not invented at the time and it was really big..

    And will you pass me the name of that spammer please? (he will have a second sunnet)..{#lang_emotions_wink}

     

    handsom...don´t you remember the first gift I got you???? It was a Walkman!  It was all the rage with dudus that summer! 

     

    Oh and......Please don´t be jealous....the spammer is now on my ignore list{#lang_emotions_angel}

    2915.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 10:32 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    handsom...don´t you remember the first gift I got you???? It was a Walkman!  It was all the rage with dudus that summer! 

     

    Oh and......Please don´t be jealous....the spammer is now on my ignore list{#lang_emotions_angel}

     

    Of course it was a walkman..I was just testing you canim if you could remember or not..{#lang_emotions_angel}

    And thank you very much for ignoring that spammer.. 

    Btw.. did I mention you why I could not sent you any sms messages?..Because I dont have any contour..



    Edited (3/6/2009) by thehandsom

    2916.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 10:47 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Of course it was a walkman..I was just testing you canim if you could remember or not..{#lang_emotions_angel}

    And thank you very much for ignoring that spammer.. 

    Btw.. did I mention you why I could not sent you any sms messages?..Because I dont have any contour..

     

     I have sent you several hundred dollars via Western Union.  I am sorry I couldn´t send more but I had to pay my electricity bill. 

    2917.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 10:56 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I have sent you several hundred dollars via Western Union.  I am sorry I couldn´t send more but I had to pay my electricity bill. 

     

    Ohhh..

    But..dont you love me anymore??

    Dont you have any friends or relatives or even neighbours? have you tried your neighbours? 

    You know me canimbalimsekerimbitanem..

    I would not ask if I did not need desperately..

    Well..if you dont send more, I have to think about my future..Trudy keeps inviting me into her couch for surfing.. She keeps saying that money is not a problem..But I dont want to do it..

    2918.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Mar 2009 Fri 11:58 pm

    Such a beautiful car!! lol

     

    A car covered with black fur on display at an art exhibition in Shanghai 

     

    Fury Car

    2919.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     07 Mar 2009 Sat 01:19 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Ohhh..

    But..dont you love me anymore??

    Dont you have any friends or relatives or even neighbours? have you tried your neighbours? 

    You know me canimbalimsekerimbitanem..

    I would not ask if I did not need desperately..

    Well..if you dont send more, I have to think about my future..Trudy keeps inviting me into her couch for surfing.. She keeps saying that money is not a problem..But I dont want to do it..

     

    You liar! You said there was nothing in the world you wanted more but you were so afraid of Elisabeth´s revenge that you wouldn´t dare take chances!!!

     

    2920.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     07 Mar 2009 Sat 01:38 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Such a beautiful car!! lol

     

    A car covered with black fur on display at an art exhibition in Shanghai 

     

    Fury Car

     

     OMG it is PERFECT for you! lol

    2921.       adana
    416 posts
     07 Mar 2009 Sat 02:33 am

    kolbasti dance{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2922.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 05:46 pm

     

    Bekele Degfa Almitu

    at

    European Athletics Indoor Championships 2009, Torino

    2923.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 05:50 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

    Bekele Degfa Almitu

    at

    European Athletics Indoor Championships 2009, Torino

     

     is she another kara fatma?

    2924.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 05:51 pm

    my eyes caught babyglam

    2925.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 05:55 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    my eyes caught babyglam

     

     So as the vigil is not necessary you are not offering soup to everyone tonight? lol

    2926.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 05:59 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     So as the vigil is not necessary you are not offering soup to everyone tonight? lol

     

     i have cooked a huge pot of soup, of course, i will be there, we will turn this vigil into party {#lang_emotions_alcoholics} bring some fluids to sip in case i forget the blankets made out of hairy´s hair he donated me last year.

    2927.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:06 pm

    God´s Hotline

     

    "This is the voice of God, I am not able to speak to you at the moment, but please leave a message."

    ..
    Dutch artist Johan van der Dong chose a mobile phone number to show that God was available anywhere and anytime, Radio Netherlands reported.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7929799.stm

    2928.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:09 pm

       

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     i have cooked a huge pot of soup, of course, i will be there, we will turn this vigil into party {#lang_emotions_alcoholics} bring some fluids to sip in case i forget the blankets made out of hairy´s hair he donated me last year.

     

    I knew I could rely on you!

    It is very chilly out there so warmest burkas tonight girls

    2929.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:14 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    God´s Hotline

     

    "This is the voice of God, I am not able to speak to you at the moment, but please leave a message."

    ..
    Dutch artist Johan van der Dong chose a mobile phone number to show that God was available anywhere and anytime, Radio Netherlands reported.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7929799.stm

     

     God: 0031-6-44244901

     

    But erm.... I just called, he indeed did not answer but I got his answering machine. Unfortunately God only speaks Dutch.... lol

    2930.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:19 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     God: 0031-6-44244901

     

    But erm.... I just called, he indeed did not answer but I got his answering machine. Unfortunately God only speaks Dutch.... lol

     

     God is Dutch?

    But But... in all the films (The Bible, The Ten Commandments etc) he is DEFINITELY american!

     

    2931.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:25 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     God is Dutch?

    But But... in all the films (The Bible, The Ten Commandments etc) he is DEFINITELY american!

     

     

    Sorry, the deep voice I just heard was definitely Dutch. I guess all those filmmakers were wrong all these years. God´s a cloggie.... lol lol

    2932.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:27 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Sorry, the deep voice I just heard was definitely Dutch. I guess all those filmmakers were wrong all these years. God´s a cloggie.... lol lol

     

    You´re both wrong. God´s a Polish immigrant. His name is Joziu. lol 

    2933.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:32 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    You´re both wrong. God´s a Polish immigrant. His name is Joziu. lol 

     

     Have you spoken to him? Huh? Not many can say they´ve heard a voice telling ´you speak with God´. (Darn, that psychiatric hotline will be the next number I have to call...) lol lol

    2934.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     08 Mar 2009 Sun 06:38 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Have you spoken to him? Huh? Not many can say they´ve heard a voice telling ´you speak with God´. (Darn, that psychiatric hotline will be the next number I have to call...) lol lol

     

    I can´t say that I have.  He won´t talk to me, I´m not "saved". {#lang_emotions_cry} But I´m on first-name basis with the Devil (Rysio, I call him), he´s much more fun. {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    2935.       cedars
    235 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 12:07 pm

    Gisha - Legal Center for Freedom of Movement

    Yoni Goodman

     

    http://www.closedzone.com/

     

    2936.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 01:17 pm

    Tattoo Parlour funny

     

    here

    2937.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 01:21 pm

     

    Quoting cybernetics

    Tattoo Parlour funny

     

    here

     

     now that is funny bet you choose her bottom too!!

    2938.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 01:24 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     now that is funny bet you choose her bottom too!!

     

     hahaha is that possible to not choose ?? lol

    2939.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 01:27 pm

    DHAKA (AFP) – At first glance, Bably Akter looks like any other nine-year-old Bangladeshi girl, dressed in a brightly coloured pink and turquoise skirt and top trimmed with silver sequins.

    A matching headband conceals her left ear, badly deformed and the only obvious sign she is the victim of an acid attack, a practice rampant in the impoverished country, used mainly in domestic disputes and against women and children.

    As her mother, Parul, recounts the story of how Bably´s father put drops of acid on different parts of her body every day for five days when she was a baby, the little girl lifts her skirt to reveal a large scar on her legs and feet.

    "Her father wanted a son. He´d been violent towards me before Bably was born but it was not until day five, when he actually fed her acid I realised something was seriously wrong," Parul, 26, said.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090308/wl_asia_afp/womenrightsbangladeshabuse_20090308083230

    2940.       cedars
    235 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 04:59 pm

    Vatican defends rape-abortion case excommunicationAgence France-Presse
    March 8, 2009

     

    ROME - A senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication of the mother and doctors of a 9-year-old girl who had an abortion in Brazil after being raped.
    ....

    The regional archbishop, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, pronounced excommunication for the mother for authorizing the operation and the doctors who conducted it.


    He also said the stepfather accused of the rape would not be expelled from the church, because, while it was "a heinous crime . . . the abortion - the elimination of an innocent life - was more serious."
    ....


    http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-wovati0812527514mar08,0,5869588.story

    2941.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 05:11 pm

    Turkish for Foreigners (Turkisch fur Auflander or sth like that) - a tv series about a mixed Turkish-German family. A good laugh lol

    2942.       bydand
    755 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 05:29 pm

    Today is the 50th birthday of Barbie Roberts. Happy birthday Barbie.  {#lang_emotions_flowers}

    2943.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 05:32 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Turkish for Foreigners (Turkisch fur Auflander or sth like that) - a tv series about a mixed Turkish-German family. A good laugh lol

     

    care to share?

    2944.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 05:40 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    care to share?

     

    check out tvn7 daily at 3pm gmt

    2945.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 06:11 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    check out tvn7 daily at 3pm gmt

     

    lol yeah lol

     

    tvn7 was very helpful lol

    2946.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 06:54 pm

    Turks holding portraits of loved ones protest civil war missing.

     

    caption says :

    March 7, 2009, Istanbul, Turkey: Relatives of people who disappeared during the 1990s protest in Istanbul to ask for the release of information regarding their relatives. Those protests have started again after revelations regarding Ergenekon, an ultra-nationalist network of high-ranking military and civil official, as well as business and mafia leaders. There are currently searches in south-eastern Turkey to locate "acid wells" where the network´s victims were discarded. Turks holding portraits of loved ones protest civil war missing.

     

    http://images3.image-data.com/images/30/lowres/62254/62254038.jpg

     

    I dont remember the last number but I think the number of missings were around 17.000!!

     

    2947.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 06:59 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

     

    I dont remember the last number but I think the number of missings were around 17.000!!

     

     

    this is f... disturbing number {#lang_emotions_confused}

    2948.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 07:18 pm

    Yesterday there were Melek74 and melek74. A few minutes ago there was also MeLeK74.... A triple personality?

    2949.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 07:20 pm

    Quoting Trudy

    Yesterday there were Melek74 and melek74. A few minutes ago there was also MeLeK74.... A triple personality?

     

    I´m just messing with you. For some reason how you type the letters when you sign in, it stays that way for a few minutes.  {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

    2950.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 07:22 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Yesterday there were Melek74 and melek74. A few minutes ago there was also MeLeK74.... A triple personality?

     

    calm down, take a deep breath! count : 3, 2, 1, and... pink dots are disappearing slowly, your eyes are like mine. remember : no pink dots!

    2951.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 07:24 pm

    Yes!! Funny! 

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    I´m just messing with you. For some reason how you type the letters when you sign in, it stays that way for a few minutes.  {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

     

     

    2952.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 07:25 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    calm down, take a deep breath! count : 3, 2, 1, and... pink dots are disappearing slowly, your eyes are like mine. remember : no pink dots!

     

     lollollol

    2953.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 10:37 pm

    my eyes caught mELEK74 again!

     

    calm down, breathe in and out. think of green points, trudy im coming!

    2954.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 10:37 pm

     

    Swiss uproar: Prostitute buried near John Calvin

    GENEVA – A well-known prostitute who campaigned for the rights and dignity of sex workers was given an honored place of rest on Monday, in the same cemetery where Protestantism´s John Calvin is buried, and some women activists criticized the decision.

    Griselidis Real, who died in 2005, was buried in the presence of 200 people at the Cemetery of the Kings, which is reserved for individuals that have profoundly marked Swiss or international history. Argentinian writer Jose Luis Borges and child psychologist Jean Piaget are among the luminaries interred there.

    The body of Real, who was 76 when she died only 10 years after she is said to have given up prostitution, was exhumed from another cemetery in Geneva for the ceremony that some — particularly women — have called offensive.

    "If every woman that had children to raise alone turned to prostitution, the city of Geneva would be a bordello," said Amelia Christinat, a feminist and former member of the Swiss parliament who opposed Real´s reburial.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re_eu/eu_switzerland_prostitute_honored

     

    I don´t think he cares anymore! {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

     

    Funny nobody protested when Jose Luis Borges was buried there, although, if you believe Reinaldo Arenas, he has quite a record of his own. {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}



    Edited (3/9/2009) by Melek74

    2955.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     09 Mar 2009 Mon 11:54 pm

    Saudi court sentences 75-year-old woman to lashes

     

    CAIRO – A 75-year-old widow in Saudi Arabia has been sentenced to 40 lashes and four months in jail for mingling with two young men who are not close relatives, drawing new criticism for the kingdom´s ultraconservative religious police and judiciary.

    .....

    The newspaper Al-Watan said the woman met with the two 24-year-old men last April after she asked them to bring her five loaves of bread at her home in al-Chamil, a city north of the capital, Riyadh. Al-Watan identified one man as Fahd al-Anzi, the nephew of Sawadi´s late husband, and the other as his friend and business partner Hadiyan bin Zein. It said they were arrested by the religious police after delivering the bread. The men also were convicted and sentenced to lashes and prison.

    ...

    Saudi Arabia´s strict interpretation of Islam prohibits men and women who are not immediate relatives from mingling. It also bars women from driving, and the playing of music, dancing and many movies also are a concern for hard-liners who believe they violate religious and moral values.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/i/721

     

    So many people are not satisfied with what they have. I guess she should just ... be thankful! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

    2956.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 12:05 am

     

    Quoting Melek74

    .

    So many people are not satisfied with what they have. I guess she should just ... be thankful! {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

    yep, the truth is out there in the links.

    2957.       chiko
    135 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 10:43 am

    Ýstanbul is very depressive today -  showery and dark {#lang_emotions_confused}

    2958.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 11:39 am

    Afghanistan: Court upholds jail term for ´blasphemous´ reporter

     

    Kabul, 9 March (AKI) - Afghanistan´s Supreme Court has upheld a 20-year jail term for blasphemy handed to Afghan journalist Sayed Parwez Kambakhsh, who claimed men and women were equal. Kambakhsh´s brother said the family had just learned of the closed-door ruling delivered a month ago in the absence of Yaqub Kambakhsh, his lawyer or family members, the Information Safety and Freedom media watchdog reported on Monday.

    "We thought there would be some justice in the capital of Afghanistan and even at the highest level of the judicial system," wrote Yaqub Kambakhsh in a letter sent to Information Safety and Freedom.

    "But their silent decision seems that first of all there is no justice in Afghanistan at any level. "Kambakhsh is the latest victim."

    Twenty-eight year-old Kambakhsh´s troubles began in 1997, when he wrote in his blog that "extremist mullahs" had distorted the true meaning of Islam´s holy book or Koran.

    "If a Muslim man may have four wives, why shouldn´t a wife have four husbands," he wrote.

    He was arrested on blasphemy charges in the northern town of Mazar-i-Sharif in 2007 and in October that year a local court condemned him to death

    The death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment following pressure from international human rights organisations.

    Yaqub Kambakhsh visited Italy and other European countries last month to try and muster support for his brother´s release and fears for his safety in prison.

     

    "We, Parwez´s relations, his colleaues and his lawyers fear he could be murdered in prison, possibly by poisoning - he wouldn´t be the first such victim," he stated in an interview with Italian daily Corriere della Sera.

    Corriere della Sera quoted Italy´s under-secretary for foreign affairs, Alfredo Mantica as claiming the government was concerned about Kambakhsh, but considered it better to intervene after presidential elections due in August 2009 to avoid "politicising" the case.

    "It´s a fact that Afghanistan´s courts are strongly influenced by the religious authorities," Mantica stated.

    2959.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 11:44 am

    The Pakistani Taliban in the troubled Khyber tribal region have warned authorities not to issue national identity cards to women, saying the practice is un-Islamic.

    Omar Farooq, the commander of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan in Khyber Agency, warned the National Database and Registration Authority that its offices would be attacked if it issued identity cards to women.

    Farooq told reporters on phone from an unknown location that making identity cards for women went against Islamic rules. The Taliban will not allow women to obtain these cards, he said.

    He also warned women that they would have to face the consequences if they went to NADRA offices to get themselves registered for the identity cards.

    The Taliban in Swat valley of the North Western Frontier Province and parts of the restive tribal have banned girls education and barred women from visiting markets unless they are accompanied by male relatives.

     

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=RSSFeed-News&id=ac0e91ba-1f79-4cef-8092-5ef299b21653&Headline=Taliban+warns+Pak+authorities+issuing+%27un-Islamic%27+I-cards

     

    ps. i guess these women must be thankful for what they have. they suer dont need ID. what for if they wont use them at all?

    2960.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 11:48 am

    Muslim Woman Self Immolates Rather Than Continue Desperate Life

    53 year old Afghan widow, Jan Bibi, chose to pour gasoline over her body and light herself on fire rather than continue her desperate life. As an aging muslim woman - with no husband - she was on the bottom rung of Afghan life and considered a pariah of society.  She had little chance of finding work due to her gender and even less chance of finding a new husband due to her age. So a painful, skin blistering-flesh charring death by fire seemed the only solution to her desolate situation.

    Recently President Barack Obama declared that the USA is losing the War in Afghanistan and discussed talking with the "moderate" Taliban in Afghanistan. What might these "moderates" want as concessions?

    "One expert comments that "a few months ago, Taliban leaders, believed to be moderate, indicated the three points that for them are nonnegotiable: that all the soldiers from other countries leave; that there be no foreign interference in Afghan politics; and that sharia (Islamic law) be applied." LINK

    Thus Obama´s publicized thoughts of "reaching out"  to the Taliban are cause for consternation and fear particularly among the Afghan women - many who hope the United States presence in Afghanistan will increase the success of democracy and offer continuing hope and positive change to their grim existence under the Taliban/Sharia Law rule.

    "Fear is widespread that a new Taliban regime would mean "going backward." Analysts observe that the only results of this long war and its immense cost in human lives and money may be the better conditions for women, and democracy. Democracy is still weak, to such an extent that Karzai has delayed until August the elections scheduled for April, because of the difficult situation."

    ""The evolution of this country is in the hands of women. Under the Taliban, women could not even go to school, they were forced to stay home and endure forced marriages." LINK

    AND

    "The Taliban government that ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001 forced women to stay at home and banned them from appearing in public without a body-covering burqa. Much has improved since then: Millions of girls now attend school, and many women own businesses. Of 351 parliamentarians, 89 are women. On Saturday, a female lawmaker, Shalah Attah, said she will run for president in this year´s election, now set for August." LINK

    Afghan women now only have to look across a nearby border to see strictly imposed Sharia Law in the Swat Valley -  located in nothwestern Pakistan. This area was recently sacrificed by the Pakistani government in order to appease the militant Taliban -- in a  "peace" agreement.  Apparently past experience was discounted:

    "This cease-fire smacks of a similar deal the previous government of Pervez Musharraf arranged in Pakistan´s tribal areas in 2006. That deal created a Taliban sanctuary and led to sharp increases in terrorist attacks, both in Afghanistan and the Pakistan heartland. Sufi Mohammed has signed three previous pacts with various Pakistani governments extending the writ of Islamic law. None mollified the extremists; each invited the next round of violent demands." LINK

    Thus it should come as no surprise that the "peace" was swiftly broken:

    "Yet no sooner was the deal signed than a Pakistani journalist was murdered while covering a "peace march" organized by Sufi Mohammed -- the 20th journalist killed around Swat in two years." LINK

    There is currently little evidence that the Taliban, in Afghanistan, would be any different.

    President Obama needs to think long and hard about any appeasement of the Taliban and any level of condoning Sharia Law - to do so would be giant leap backwards for the nation and particularly it´s brave women ----- ensuring that the piercing screams from burning muslim Afghan women - like Jan Bibi - will be deafening.

     

    PS. this woman is ungrateful. she should take life as it is.

    2961.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 12:07 pm

    swiss people seemed to be far more tolerant than the eastern neighbours. but i understand them. if you ask me if i could be burried next to alameda. my answer is a BIG NO.

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    Swiss uproar: Prostitute buried near John Calvin

    GENEVA – A well-known prostitute who campaigned for the rights and dignity of sex workers was given an honored place of rest on Monday, in the same cemetery where Protestantism´s John Calvin is buried, and some women activists criticized the decision.

    Griselidis Real, who died in 2005, was buried in the presence of 200 people at the Cemetery of the Kings, which is reserved for individuals that have profoundly marked Swiss or international history. Argentinian writer Jose Luis Borges and child psychologist Jean Piaget are among the luminaries interred there.

    The body of Real, who was 76 when she died only 10 years after she is said to have given up prostitution, was exhumed from another cemetery in Geneva for the ceremony that some — particularly women — have called offensive.

    "If every woman that had children to raise alone turned to prostitution, the city of Geneva would be a bordello," said Amelia Christinat, a feminist and former member of the Swiss parliament who opposed Real´s reburial.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re_eu/eu_switzerland_prostitute_honored

     

    I don´t think he cares anymore! {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

     

    Funny nobody protested when Jose Luis Borges was buried there, although, if you believe Reinaldo Arenas, he has quite a record of his own. {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

     

    2962.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 03:26 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

    PS. this woman is ungrateful. she should take life as it is.

     

    Yeah no kidding. Some people just want to complain about their conditions. It´s in their nature. {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

     

    But seriously, reading this kind of stuff makes me realize how profoundly fortunate I really am in my own life. As much as it makes my blood boil to read about the lives of those women, the truth is, I´m not actually living their lives, and that´s something I am thankful for. Any problems of mine seem frivolous by comparison.

    2963.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 03:30 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Yeah no kidding. Some people just want to complain about their conditions. It´s in their nature. {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

     

    But seriously, reading this kind of stuff makes me realize how profoundly fortunate I really am in my own life. As much as it makes my blood boil to read about the lives of those women, the truth is, I´m not actually living their lives, and that´s something I am thankful for. Any problems of mine seem frivolous by comparison.

     This is something we all can agree on.  I am always taken back by the plight of women whose only fault is to be born in some backward culture to an unkind family. 

     

    2964.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 09:58 pm

    Children conceived by men over the age of 45 struggle in intelligence tests

    ...

    However, recent studies have linked paternal age with congenital problems such as neural tube defects and a range of medical disorders of later life, such as schizophrenia, dyslexia, bipolar disorder and autism...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..or-baby-1641010.html

     

    I guess, you can always blame your father if you have one of those

     

    (And I am glad that I still have another 20 years to be a father again without worrying the child´s health  

    2965.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 10:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Children conceived by men over the age of 45 struggle in intelligence tests

    ...

    However, recent studies have linked paternal age with congenital problems such as neural tube defects and a range of medical disorders of later life, such as schizophrenia, dyslexia, bipolar disorder and autism...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..or-baby-1641010.html

     

    I guess, you can always blame your father if you have one of those

     

    (And I am glad that I still have another 20 years to be a father again without worrying the child´s health  

     

     I was thinking more like 20 minutes!!!

    2966.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     10 Mar 2009 Tue 10:58 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I was thinking more like 20 minutes!!!

     

     lol lol

    2967.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 03:53 am

    TheHandsom and Cynic Show........ooh wait no ....it´s a repeat {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    2968.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 04:04 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    TheHandsom and Cynic Show........ooh wait no ....it´s a repeat {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

    How can you say that?

    I am not answering at all!!! 

    I am just keeping my promise..

    lol lol 

    2969.       portokal
    2516 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 12:15 pm

    Aenigmae post:

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     

     

    2970.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 02:09 pm

    THE WORLD´S MOST EXPENSIVE RUG

    The Pearl Carpet of Baroda is expected to fetch $20m at an auction on March 19, 2009.  The Pearl Carpet of Baroda was created using an estimated two million natural seed pearls and is embellished with gold set diamonds and precious stones in their hundreds. ..The Indian masterpiece was made for the Maharaja of Baroda, who is reputed to have commissioned it as a Gift for the Tomb of the Prophet Mohammad at Medina. ..

     

     

    It is "the lagend" of rug world apperantly..

    People have always talked about it but it is the first time they will be able to see it.

     



    Edited (3/11/2009) by thehandsom
    Edited (3/11/2009) by thehandsom

    2971.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 02:12 pm

    Polar Bear Taotao first Birthday

    Polar bear Taotao enjoys one year birthday cake at Dalian Laohutan Ocean Park, in Dalian, northeast China´s Liaoning Province, Mar. 9, 2009. Artificial breeded Taotao who was born in the park on March 9th, 2008 has grown up from the beginning of 495 grams to 102 kilograms

     

    Polar Bear Taotao first Birthday

     

    Polar Bear Taotao first Birthday

     

    Happy birthday Taotao..

    2972.       bod
    5999 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 04:57 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    THE WORLD´S MOST EXPENSIVE RUG

     

    [snip]

     

    The Indian masterpiece was made for the Maharaja of Baroda, who is reputed to have commissioned it as a Gift for the Tomb of the Prophet Mohammad at Medina. ..

     

     

    Some people have strange ideas.......

    Commission the world´s most expensive rug - just so they can put it in a tomb!!!

     

     

    2973.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 07:10 pm

    bod´s everyday mining job at tc. a hobby? :unusure:

    2974.       bod
    5999 posts
     11 Mar 2009 Wed 07:18 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    bod´s everyday mining job at tc. a hobby? :unusure:

     

    It can hardly be described as mining when it is at the top of the topic index!!!

     

    PS - is un-usure a protest against a popular insurance company???

    2975.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     12 Mar 2009 Thu 12:15 pm

    New user - iloveturkishmen - go spammers, go!!!!  (and one is as I speak)   lol lol lol

    2976.       sonunda
    5004 posts
     12 Mar 2009 Thu 08:04 pm

     

    Quoting bod

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    THE WORLD´S MOST EXPENSIVE RUG

     

    [snip]

     

    The Indian masterpiece was made for the Maharaja of Baroda, who is reputed to have commissioned it as a Gift for the Tomb of the Prophet Mohammad at Medina. ..

     

     

    Some people have strange ideas.......

    Commission the world´s most expensive rug - just so they can put it in a tomb!!!

     

     

     

    A bit like building the Taj Mahal!

    2977.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     12 Mar 2009 Thu 08:58 pm

    Another one who thinks this is a dating site....

     

    Reason to use Turkish Class: Girls

     

    Pffffff..... {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    2978.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Mar 2009 Thu 11:27 pm

    Bug, the pet rat of budding photographer Jessica Florence, has achieved internet fame for her cute antics.

     

    http://www.metro.co.uk/...d=3&in_image_id=25464&in_category_id=2087

     

     

     

    Bug the Pet Rat

     

     

    2979.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 04:32 pm

    GG is back to destroy our peaceful TC community of dead sheep.

    2980.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 04:36 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    GG is back to destroy our peaceful TC community of dead sheep.

     

     Is there a "Dead Sheep Society"?  And who is their leader?

    2981.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 04:40 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Is there a "Dead Sheep Society"?  And who is their leader?

     

     A-a..aaa... cant tell you... they will delete me

    2982.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 04:41 pm

     {#lang_emotions_rant}{#lang_emotions_get_you}{#lang_emotions_you_smartass}

     

    Quoting femmeous

    GG is back to destroy our peaceful TC community of dead sheep.

     

     {#lang_emotions_ninja}

    2983.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:14 pm

    "A" someone checking out cynic lol

    2984.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:14 pm

    Do we have 2 members with Azymuth name ?!

    Azymuth and azymuth ? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    2985.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:17 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    Do we have 2 members with Azymuth name ?!

    Azymuth and azymuth ? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     sometimes we have Melek and then melek and then mELEK so on

    2986.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:20 pm

    And all of them are one Melek ?! {#lang_emotions_ninja} 

    2987.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:23 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    And all of them are one Melek ?! {#lang_emotions_ninja} 

     

     so claims melek

    2988.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:33 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     so claims melek

     

    Shhhhhh I have multiple personalities! {#lang_emotions_ninja}

     

    P.S. But seriously, it seems that lately the way you log into the site, that´s how your name appears.

    2989.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     13 Mar 2009 Fri 11:36 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Shhhhhh I have multiple personalities! {#lang_emotions_ninja}

     

    P.S. But seriously, it seems that lately the way you log into the site, that´s how your name appears.

     

     gotcha! you must be the one who is preparing the site for the super-duper geek-nerd to hijack TC. lol

    2990.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 12:40 am

    Real Men in Real Tights.


    caption says : According to male pantyhose supremo Harisnya , Mantyhose is now a popular male fashion accessory such as guyliner, manbags and manzieres ( bras for man boobs ) .

    London based Harisnya says ´ Male pantyhose can be worn for health , sports and fashion .

     

    His website , e-MANcipate.net , is packed with tips with one discussion topic named : ´ Is pink pantyhose too femmy for men ? ´ Harisnya said : ´ We estimate one in five men has worn some kind of pantyhose in his life and would try it again under right circumstance..

     

     

            

     

    Real Men in Real Tights

     

     

     

     



    Edited (3/14/2009) by thehandsom

    2991.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 12:43 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Real Men in Real Tights.


    caption says : According to male pantyhose supremo Harisnya , Mantyhose is now a popular male fashion accessory such as guyliner, manbags and manzieres ( bras for man boobs ) .

    London based Harisnya says ´ Male pantyhose can be worn for health , sports and fashion .

     

    His website , e-MANcipate.net , is packed with tips with one discussion topic named : ´ Is pink pantyhose too femmy for men ? ´ Harisnya said : ´ We estimate one in five men has worn some kind of pantyhose in his life and would try it again under right circumstance..

     

     

            

     

    Real Men in Real Tights

     

     

     

     

     

     mwahaha..... I knew I recognised you from somewhere{#lang_emotions_lol}

    2992.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 12:48 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     mwahaha..... I knew I recognised you from somewhere{#lang_emotions_lol}

     

    and that somewhere is?

    2993.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 03:10 pm

    TURKEY: BOY ACCUSES PRIME MINISTER, SCRATCHED MY NECK

    ANKARA, MARCH 13 - On an electoral visit to the city of Adana, in the southern region of the Aegean, the Turkish prime minister, Tayyip Erdogan, is thought to have grabbed the neck of young protestor, before leaving the unmistakable signs of deep finger nail scratches on his skin. The secular website ´Flash Haber´ reports the news, which is part of the same group as Flash TV, and which published a profile shot of the boy, aged 13, whose initials M.S.O. were used to keep his identity secret, and who appears in the picture with his eyes blacked out. On his neck, below a typical Turkish student hair-style, red signs of long and deep nail-scratches are evident. Last Monday Erdogan was on a visit to Adana for the electoral campaign for the administrative consultations on March 29 when, as his vehicle moved through the streets in a convoy, the young boy crossed police barriers and shouted towards him, "God will punish you in the next elections." "I was immediately stopped by the escorting officers," the young boy recounted, who brought me before him. The prime minister put one hand on my neck and, pushing me roughly, scratched me with his nails asking me: ´Why did you shout those things?´ I answered him, ´My father lost his job recently because of the economic crisis.´ Then he let me go." Flash Haber reports that the boy´s family has begun attempts to find a lawyer to charge the Prime Minister with mistreating a child: that is M.S.O.´s status in the secular laws of Turkey, even if, according to Islam, which is the at the basis of Erdogan´s AKP Justice and Development party, the boy should already be deemed to be a "father of a family" and therefore essentially a man.

    2994.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 03:19 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    TURKEY: BOY ACCUSES PRIME MINISTER, SCRATCHED MY NECK

     

    So?

    Our prime minister is a macho man and from Kasimpasa district of Istanbul..

    Some people  like him that way.. lol lol 

    2995.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 03:32 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Our prime minister is a macho man

     

     Aren´t most Turks macho men (if not all)?

    2996.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:08 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    So?

    Our prime minister is a macho man and from Kasimpasa district of Istanbul..

    Some people  like him that way.. lol lol 

     

     disgusting {#lang_emotions_puking}

    2997.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:25 pm

    AE posting in a Turkish language topic. Did the world stop turning? :S

    2998.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:27 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    AE posting in a Turkish language topic. Did the world stop turning? :S

     

     

    2999.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:29 pm

    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/46726,opinion,how-turkish-airlines-became-a-pawn-in-the-nations-power-struggle

     

    On the morning of February 25, Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 from Istanbul crashed short of the runway at Amsterdam´s Schiphol Airport, killing nine passengers and crew.

    On Wednesday, Dutch authorities released a preliminary report indicating that the crash was caused by mechanical failure, exacerbated by severe pilot error: The aircraft´s altimeter - which had malfunctioned twice in the past eight landings - was faulty, and the pilots failed to note this or respond appropriately. It has further been reported that a trainee pilot with less than 25 hours´ experience of flying this kind of plane was at the controls.

    Spokesmen for Turkish Airlines, or THY (Turk Hava Yollari) as it is known locally, and European aviation experts have been quick to assure the public that the accident was an anomaly. Turkish Airlines´ standards of maintenance and training, they insist, are the equal of any major European airline.

    Immediately after the accident, European Commission Vice President and Commissioner for Transport Antonio Tajani, who is Italian, declared that Turkish Airlines had always had good safety and security inspection results.

    The investigation is not yet complete, and it is premature categorically to assign blame for it. But confident assertions that there is no cause to be concerned about the safety standards at Turkish Airlines are equally premature.

    3000.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:35 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    AE posting in a Turkish language topic. Did the world stop turning? :S

     

     

    korkunç

    3001.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:37 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     

    korkunç

     

     Кешіріңіз

    3002.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:41 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Кешіріңіз

     

     lol okasi jok

    3003.       bydand
    755 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Real Men in Real Tights.


    caption says : According to male pantyhose supremo Harisnya , Mantyhose is now a popular male fashion accessory such as guyliner, manbags and manzieres ( bras for man boobs ) .

    London based Harisnya says ´ Male pantyhose can be worn for health , sports and fashion .

     

    His website , e-MANcipate.net , is packed with tips with one discussion topic named : ´ Is pink pantyhose too femmy for men ? ´ Harisnya said : ´ We estimate one in five men has worn some kind of pantyhose in his life and would try it again under right circumstance..

     

     

            

     

    Real Men in Real Tights

     

     

     

     

     

     Might look a bit incongruous with my kilt. {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    3004.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 04:54 pm

     

    Quoting bydand

     

     

     Might look a bit incongruous with my kilt. {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

     Tights under a kilt? I thought there was nothing under a kilt?

    3005.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 05:00 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Tights under a kilt? I thought there was nothing under a kilt?

     

     offf. {#lang_emotions_head_bang} thats what he said. that it doesnt match his keelt.

    shall i translate it into dutch for you? people, you are forshing me to speak moultiple languages. im gonna suffer if i dont boast about my linguistick skills



    Edited (3/14/2009) by femmeous [a few spelling skills had to be reviewd, thank you, trudy :D]

    3006.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 05:38 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     offf. {#lang_emotions_head_bang} thats what he said. that it doesnt match his kilt.

    shall i translate it into dutch for you? people, you are forsing me to speak maultiple languages. im gonna suffer if i dont boast about my linguistic skills

     

     I knew what he said, hun, but I wanted to be sure that the tale about kilts wasn´t a fairy tale....

     

    And those skills...... You know editing is possible? lol lol

    3007.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 07:24 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

    You know editing is possible? lol lol

     

     Mwhhahahahaha {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    3008.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 07:32 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Mwhhahahahaha {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     You know ALL about that...... lol lol

    3009.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 07:35 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     You know ALL about that...... lol lol

     

     {#lang_emotions_get_you}



    Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma [I know NOTHING about editing]
    Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma [Nothing at all...]
    Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma [My spelling is always perfect..]

    3010.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 07:37 pm

    evil AE jumps in TC the same second, what a timing!

    3011.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 07:39 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     I knew what he said, hun, but I wanted to be sure that the tale about kilts wasn´t a fairy tale....

     

    And those skills...... You know editing is possible? lol lol

     

     done

    3012.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 08:39 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     done

     

     Hmmm. You have a different idea what editing is than me.....

    3013.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 09:53 pm

    Looking for the ideal job?  Beer taster wanted in Lincoln! lol

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7943066.stm

     

    3014.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 10:13 pm

    Yilgun has gone

    3015.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 10:17 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Yilgun has gone

     

     He´ll come back as Yilgun-8

    3016.       adana
    416 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 10:21 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Yilgun has gone

     

     And you are surprised ???Haven´t you thought that with your last clapping at Melek´s joke - mockery at him-you helped him somehow to pack...

    3017.       adana
    416 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 10:21 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Yilgun has gone

     

     



    Edited (3/14/2009) by adana [ sorry ..double post ,pls delete]

    3018.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 10:23 pm

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     And you are surprised ???Haven´t you thought that with your last clapping at Melek´s joke - mockery at him-you helped him somehow to pack...

     

     No I don´t believe it was that at all "Adana" (or whatever your name is ) - I have defended Yilgun on many occasions, but that particular post was funny (and Porto´s mistake was funny too!).  And..Yilgun himself said it was a joke.

     

    Nice try though sweetie

    (Maybe it was your salacious offtopic cobra chase post that offended him? )



    Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma

    3019.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     14 Mar 2009 Sat 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     And you are surprised ???Haven´t you thought that with your last clapping at Melek´s joke - mockery at him-you helped him somehow to pack...

     

     what a childish and stupid thing to say so!

     

    what now? shall we cast lots and find who is to blame for yilgun´s departure?

     

    oh, you poor victims and victimizers! {#lang_emotions_puking}

    3020.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:10 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     what a childish and stupid thing to say so!

     

    what now? shall we cast lots and find who is to blame for yilgun´s departure?

     

    oh, you poor victims and victimizers! {#lang_emotions_puking}

     

     and what a mature and smart response...we say in Polish"uderz w stół a nozyce sie odezwą"do you need to be Aenigma´s lawyer?She can express herself,i guess..but of course you can´t restrain to butt in{#lang_emotions_puking}

    3021.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:13 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     what a childish and stupid thing to say so!

     

    what now? shall we cast lots and find who is to blame for yilgun´s departure?

     

    oh, you poor victims and victimizers! {#lang_emotions_puking}

     

    +100000000 

    3022.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:16 am

    I see that Yilgun has been breaking hearts, and is much missed in his abscence. I hope that he returns soon so that the catfight may revert back to the usual TLC style flirtation...

     

    It is terrible to see you girls so lonely like this... pulling at each other´s hair follicles.

    Yilgun, if you are reading this, come back dude...

    They need you here...

    3023.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:19 am

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     and what a mature and smart response...we say in Polish"uderz w stół a nozyce sie odezwą"do you need to be Aenigma´s lawyer?She can express herself,i guess..but of course you can´t restrain to butt in{#lang_emotions_puking}

     

     too shame nobody grieved over you when you left, ha? too pity nobody blamed me when kus-mus left tc! {#lang_emotions_lol}

    indeed uderz w stol a idioci zapiszcza lol

     

    ae pays me for representing her

    3024.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:21 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    +100000000 

     

     

    3025.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:21 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     too shame nobody grieved over you when you left, ha? too pity nobody blamed me when kus-mus left tc! {#lang_emotions_lol}

    indeed uderz w stol a idioci zapiszcza lol

     

    ae pays me for representing her

     

    Not only kus-mus, I think lol

    3026.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:21 am

    I think you should calm adana down...

    She seems to be on the roll again...

    How about a nice backrub followed by a foot rub. I will provide the blue bucket filled with salt mineral water exported from the Dead Sea...

    That may cool her down a bit (if she isn´t ticklish).

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    +100000000 

     

     

    3027.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:23 am

    Is somebody mistaken the threads here? lol

    3028.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:23 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    I see that Yilgun has been breaking hearts, and is much missed in his abscence. I hope that he returns soon so that the catfight may revert back to the usual TLC style flirtation...

     

    It is terrible to see you girls so lonely like this... pulling at each other´s hair follicles.

    Yilgun, if you are reading this, come back dude...

    They need you here...

     

     maybe you should comfort your poor sweet adana baklava in turn now? you cant let down the turkish solidarity, can you?

     

    3029.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:25 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    indeed uderz w stol a idioci zapiszcza lol

     

     

     

     you must be speaking about yourself,girl{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    3030.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:28 am

     

    Quoting adana

     

    do you need to be Aenigma´s lawyer?

     

    is there something wrong in that?

    OK her bills are extortionate, but she is very good

    3031.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:28 am

    The only one that can handle adana is mr.h...

    Even an old DuDu wolf, such as myself, is powerless against her moods...

    I will bring the tray of baklava only if h is willing to hand feed... her with some Turkish style TLC (tender love & care)

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     maybe you should comfort your poor sweet adana baklava in turn now? you cant let down the turkish solidarity, can you?

     

     

     

    3032.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:29 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    The only one that can handle adana is mr.h...

    Even an old DuDu wolf, such as myself, is powerless against her moods...

    I will bring the tray of baklava only if h is willing to hand feed... her with some Turkish style TLC (tender love & care)

     

     

     

     No - apparently it is YOU she wants to bite

    3033.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:30 am

     no, i think, mr cobra, she much into you, you know? lol oh, read her flirting posts to you

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    The only one that can handle adana is mr.h...

    Even an old DuDu wolf, such as myself, is powerless against her moods...

    I will bring the tray of baklava only if h is willing to hand feed... her with some Turkish style TLC (tender love & care)

     

     

     

     

    3034.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:31 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Is somebody mistaken the threads here? lol

     

     lol turkish men thread?

    3035.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:31 am

    Good to see bitter-butter Adana has a hero too lol

    3036.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:32 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     lol turkish men thread?

     

    I meant the pornographic one

    3037.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:32 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Good to see bitter-butter Adana has a hero too lol

     

     oh, she is mad about our cobra lol

    3038.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:33 am

    Must be because of my Apollonian bum...

    Polish girls just cannot seem to be able to resist the oven-warmed buns... 

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     No - apparently it is YOU she wants to bite

     

     

    3039.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:34 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I meant the pornographic one

     

     oh, sorry, so many of those threads lol

    3040.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:34 am

    I see that you have been reading...

    Have you been taking notes, too?  

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I meant the pornographic one

     

     

    3041.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:35 am

     {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Must be because of my Apollonian bum...

    Polish girls just cannot seem to be able to resist the oven-warmed buns... 

     

     

     

     

    3042.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:35 am

    I am not going to break my promise!!!

    3043.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:37 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I am not going to break my promise!!!

     

     didnt you take notes in case such ready-crispy adanas turn up to crunch yum-yum?

    3044.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:37 am

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} 

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     No - apparently it is YOU she wants to bite

     

     

    3045.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:38 am

    adana

    it is ok...

    you can bite me if you like...

     

    Quoting adana

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} 

     

     

     

     

    3046.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:39 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     didnt you take notes in case such ready-crispy adanas turn up to crunch yum-yum?

     

    Anybody who thinks that I need to take notes for Adana is mistaken

     

    3047.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:40 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

      poor sweet adana

     

     

     definitely sweet but not poor..if somebody is to be pity about ..guess who!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

    3048.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:41 am

     

    Quoting adana

    {#lang_emotions_you_crazy} 

     

     

     

     I was only saying what I saw

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     or...I will bite him gorging myself with his sense of humour ...to death.

     

     

    3049.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:42 am

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     definitely sweet but not poor..if somebody is to be pity about ..guess who!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

     

     you can bite cynic if you want. your idol dudu has offered himself now to you.

     

    bite! bite! bite! {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    3050.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:44 am

    brilliant aenigma! lol and what erotic it was! {#lang_emotions_razz}

    3051.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:44 am

    Well, I don´t mean to sound so eager femm

    But, you know that you can bite, too, right?

    I wouldn´t mind... The more the merrier... 

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     you can bite cynic if you want. your idol dudu has offered himself now to you.

     

    bite! bite! bite! {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     

    3052.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:46 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Anybody who thinks that I need to take notes for Adana is mistaken

     

     

     What a perfect post theh..I should be grateful despite our animosity ..anyway,I do not understand the general tendency here...why to hell all think we will make a perfect match..I do not like yeni turku and sleep with my blinds closed...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}



    Edited (3/15/2009) by adana [space]

    3053.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:48 am

     nah, thanks, i pass

    i dont want to disappoint your fans lol

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Well, I don´t mean to sound so eager femm

    But, you know that you can bite, too, right?

    I wouldn´t mind... The more the merrier... 

     

     

     

     

    3054.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:48 am

    Duuudddeeee

    Take the hint...

    She is burning for you... Just grab her by the hair, and land the kiss of peace (while the blinds are open, of course.) 

    Quoting adana

     

     

     What a perfect post theh..I should be grateful despite our animosity ..anyway,I do not understand the general tendency here...why to hell all think we will make a perfect match..I do not like yeni turkuand sleep with my blinds closed...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile} You two are soulmates...

     

     

    3055.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:54 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Duuudddeeee

    Take the hint...

    She is burning for you... Just grab her by the hair, and land the kiss of peace (while the blinds are open, of course.) 

     

     

     

     strange you are humiliating your own fans.

    3056.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:55 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Duuudddeeee

    Take the hint...

    She is burning for you... Just grab her by the hair, and land the kiss of peace (while the blinds are open, of course.) 

     

     

     

     Everybody sees what he/she wants to see{#lang_emotions_ninja}

    3057.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:56 am

    Cmon now...

    She is not a true fan... I know what her agenda is...

    She wants to have adana kebab... 

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     strange you are humiliating your own fans.

     

     

    3058.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:03 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     strange you are humiliating your own fans.

     

     I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?{#lang_emotions_unsure}And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..And I do not think he humilitates me...

    Ps>cynic..collect your toys and go home immediately!dinner is ready{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    3059.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:07 am

    See... see...

    She toys with me all the time...

    She knows my vulnerable spot...

    I guess it is time for me to be a good boy, and finish my plate... 

    Quoting adana

     

     

     I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?{#lang_emotions_unsure}And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..And I do not think he humilitates me...

    Ps>cynic..collect your toys and go home immediately!dinner is ready{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     

    3060.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:10 am

     dobra noc! {#lang_emotions_ninja}

    Quoting adana

     

     

     I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?{#lang_emotions_unsure}And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..And I do not think he humilitates me...

    Ps>cynic..collect your toys and go home immediately!dinner is ready{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

     

    3061.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:13 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

     dobra noc! {#lang_emotions_ninja}

     

     

     

     dobranoc,było wesoło,nieprawdaż?

    3062.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:41 am

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     Everybody sees what he/she wants to see{#lang_emotions_ninja}

     

    Well..

    Actually, it was a humiliating post for you..

    But you dont seem to see it.. And that is the reason what you are saying above is right ..

    And about the level of people, I rather like to think that people do not have many levels or should not have multiple levels..

    If they have, they become your specialist subject.

     



    Edited (3/15/2009) by thehandsom

    3063.       portokal
    2516 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:47 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     No I don´t believe it was that at all "Adana" (or whatever your name is ) - I have defended Yilgun on many occasions, but that particular post was funny (and Porto´s mistake was funny too!).  And..Yilgun himself said it was a joke.

     

    Nice try though sweetie

    (Maybe it was your salacious offtopic cobra chase post that offended him? )

     

    my mistake? on the topic about Austria? Where?

    3064.       adana
    416 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:47 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Well..

    Actually, it was a humiliating post for you..

    But you dont seem to see it.. And that is the reason what you are saying above is right ..

    And about the level of people, I rather like to think that people do not have many levels or should not have multiple levels..

    If they have, they become your specialist subject.

     

     

     come on theh..it is virtual reality..everybody pretends..to tell the truth I do not give a shit about it..{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

    3065.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:52 am

    You have a really strange concept of what constitutes humiliation...

    Either you have never been truly humiliated before, or that you have - and never recovered... 

    plus, stop denying that she is your dream girl... you know it... I know it... and, more importantly, she very well knows it...

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Well..

    Actually, it was a humiliating post for you..

    But you dont seem to see it.. And that is the reason what you are saying above is right ..

    And about the level of people, I rather like to think that people do not have many levels or should not have multiple levels..

    If they have, they become your specialist subject.

     

     

     

    3066.       portokal
    2516 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:57 am

    A rabbit crossing the road and vanishing in the forest and an orange, almost fool moon lightening the scene while I drove home... was beautiful.

    3067.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:58 am

    As I PROMISED TO MODS AND ADMINS, I WONT REPLY TO CERTAIN POSTS..

    lol

    3068.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:04 am

    I am keeping my promise (as some Turks always do )..lol lol 

    3069.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:07 am

    Promise is promise..

    I promised that I wont reply to certain individuals posts..And I am keeping my promise..

    3070.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:10 am

    Yeah well, while you keep your promise, you better observe the guidelines of the board.

    And before you act like a crybaby, you should refrain from swearing like a 15 year old schoolboy. I though you were an adult. Married, too. Would you like your son to behave the way you have been behaving tonight on a forum?

    Shame on you man. You are emberrassing us Turks with your vulgarity...

    Quoting thehandsom

    Promise is promise..

    I promised that I wont reply to certain individuals posts..And I am keeping my promise..

     

     

    3071.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:12 am

    God..

    Give me more patience..please..

    3072.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:15 am

    Dude just shut up and go delete your post...

    You used the word "shit" inappropriately, and you know it, too.

    What is the problem? Am I wrong?

    You were rude, and you know it. 

    Quoting thehandsom

    God..

    Give me more patience..please..

     

     

    3073.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:17 am

     

    Quoting adana

     

     

     What a perfect post theh..I should be grateful despite our animosity ..anyway,I do not understand the general tendency here...why to hell all think we will make a perfect match..I do not like yeni turku and sleep with my blinds closed...{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

     

    I dont think ´it is the general tendency´ actually..

    Just only one person thinks we are  a perfect match which we both know we are NOT..

    You dont even like yeni turku 



    Edited (3/15/2009) by thehandsom

    3074.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:20 am

     I never knew I would ask God´s help  but here it goes ´please give me patience yarab´.

    3075.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:24 am

    Listen dude,

    You did use the word "shit" in an inapproptiate way against the rules of the board. This has nothing to do with "Turks" or your "Yarab"...

    Don´t be a stubborn little boy... Go back. Click "modify" and modify it. Nobody gives a damn about your patience or your prayers.

    Just don´t be vulgar, if you don´t want to be called up on it...

    You are the one in the wrong here, not someone else...

    How old are you anyway? 15...?

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     I never knew I would ask God´s help  but here it goes ´please give me patience yarab´.

     

     

    3076.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:25 am

     

    Quoting portokal

    A rabbit crossing the road and vanishing in the forest and an orange, almost fool moon lightening the scene while I drove home... was beautiful.

     

     nearly missed the beauty....with all the excrement flying around {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

    3077.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:28 am

    I desperately need one of these now..

    Because I am running off patience...

    3078.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:29 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     nearly missed the beauty....with all the excrement flying around {#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

    well..not from me!!

    3079.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:29 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I desperately need one of these now..

    Because I am running off patience...

     

     is that one of those love beads thingys {#lang_emotions_wtf}

    3080.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:32 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     is that one of those love beads thingys {#lang_emotions_wtf}

     

    it is not THAT lol..

    With each bead, when you say ´patience´ in the end you say it 33 times and it is a magic number.. AND the rumor is that your patience comes back to you

    3081.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:33 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    it is not THAT lol..

    With each bead, when you say ´patience´ in the end you say it 33 times and it is a magic number.. AND the rumor is that your patience comes back to you

     

     ha ha I know{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    3082.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:40 am

    I am about to open a new thread about ´importance of tesbihs and their reflections in our lives´ here..

    Or may be , since I seem to be mastering about ´keeping promises´ and ´not losing the patience´, the topic might be ´ unbearable lightness -or ´annoyance´ for some- of keeping your promises´ 

    lol 

    3083.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:46 am

    I suggest you open another thread about the virtues of not using the word "shit" the way you used on forums...

    That way, you would set a fine example to younger generations.

    And, frankly, I could care less about the nature of that "promise" of yours, as long as you can shut that mouth of your and refrain from vulgarity in accordance with the board rules...lol

    I am surprised you are still talking... 

    Quoting thehandsom

    I am about to open a new thread about ´importance of tesbihs and their reflections in our lives´ here..

    Or may be , since I seem to be mastering about ´keeping promises´ and ´not losing the patience´, the topic might be ´ unbearable lightness -or ´annoyance´ for some- of keeping your promises´ 

    lol 

     

     

    3084.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:48 am

    That is the one I am trying now..

    3085.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:49 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    That is the one I am trying now..

     

     will it be that colour when you are finished{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}



    Edited (3/15/2009) by lessluv [dropped an e]

    3086.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:50 am

    Are you two in luvvvv?

    Thanks god you are here to protect handsom

    He was getting lost in his own .... (I dare not say the nasty word)

    hehe 

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     ha ha I know{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

     

     

    3087.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:50 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     will it be that colour when you are finished{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

    From sleep deprivation you mean? lol lol 

    3088.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:51 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    That is the one I am trying now..

     

    it better works...

    3089.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:53 am

    How To Stop A Puppy From Biting

     

    Learning how to stop a puppy from biting can be a major challenge for  dog lovers. Puppy biting or nipping starts out as a bit of fun, but needs to be stopped quickly to avoid further problems. For most young puppies biting is a perfectly natural phase to go through, especially when they are teething.

     

    Puppies love to sink their sharp little fangs into just about anything during this teething stage, including the hands and feet of their owners..

     

    The rest:

    http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/...m-biting.html

    3090.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 02:53 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    it better works...

     

    I am trying really hard here though..

    3091.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:01 am

    I have changed it again:

    This tesbih is made of oltu tasi..Oltu is a place in Erzurum...

    And other name of it is ´karakehribar´ and apparently its latin name is Jayet.. lol

    3092.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:02 am

     

    Quoting adana

    I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?

     

    And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..

     

    journalism? lol lol lol OMG, joke of the day! lmao....

     

    and........ for the second one, I´m afraid that there´s not much to laugh at INHO, maybe except for one time with the adana kebap thingy.. lol

    3093.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:04 am

    handsom, are you drunk or something? you don´t have to report every single rosary you use! lol{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

    3094.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:06 am

    You are still disregarding the borad rules cat... hehe

    So, are we allowed to take excursions into crudity like some members, or do we have to be personal mod pets to receive such a high honour?

    Is "shit" a word that you tolerate? (In accordance with the board rules of course...) 

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    journalism? lol lol lol OMG, joke of the day! lmao....

     

    and........ for the second one, I´m afraid that there´s not much to laugh at INHO, maybe except for one time with the adana kebap thingy.. lol

     

     

    3095.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:06 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    handsom, are you drunk or something? you don´t have to report every single rosary you use! lol{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

     

    No I am not..

    I was merely showing how I am keeping my patience here..

    But I HAVE NOT BROKEN MY PROMISE!!

    See, they work..

    3096.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:08 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    But I HAVE NOT BROKEN MY PROMISE!!

     

    which you have not failed to remind us about 100 times by now! {#lang_emotions_unsure}



    Edited (3/15/2009) by catwoman

    3097.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:09 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    You are still disregarding the borad rules cat... hehe

    So, are we allowed to take excursions into crudity like some members, or do we have to be personal mod pets to receive such a high honour?

    Is "shit" a word that you tolerate? (In accordance with the board rules of course...) 

     

    stop it mystic, stop playing a fool, I am sure you´re not one.

    3098.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:13 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    which you have not failed to remind us about 100 times by now! {#lang_emotions_unsure}

     

    yes..but it means there were 100 posts asking for my reply..

     

    3099.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:17 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    yes..but it means there were 100 posts asking for my reply..

     

     

    true, true.. but I think we all can see that! {#lang_emotions_get_you}

    3100.       portokal
    2516 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:22 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     will it be that colour when you are finished{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

    lol

     

    3101.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:37 am

    cynic, i´ve seen it. and you should also be deleted for repeating it, but I´m in a good mood today. lol

    3102.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:39 am

    Ohhh no please don´t delete it...

    I am just wondering if wer are allowed, that´s all. I am all for vulgarity...

    If "shit" is allowed, but "crap" isn´t as you have deleted past posts on that basis, then I will certainly switch to "shit" for sure...

     

    Huj, I should have thought of this before, stupid me... {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

    Quoting catwoman

    cynic, i´ve seen it. and you should also be deleted for repeating it, but I´m in a good mood today. lol

     

     

    3103.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:41 am

    Anyway, good night all. It has been fun as usual...{#lang_emotions_super_cool}

    3104.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 03:42 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Ohhh no please don´t delete it...

    I am just wondering if wer are allowed, that´s all. I am all for vulgarity...

    If "shit" is allowed, but "crap" isn´t as you have deleted past posts on that basis, then I will certainly switch to "shit" for sure...

     

    sounds like you´re catching on..  good for you!

    3105.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 06:22 am

    Good for all of us.

    We shall all use the word "shit" freely, based on your confirmation. We shall refrain from "crap" though". That´s a no no... Same with other evil words, such as "idiotic" or "clownish", which have been the cause of many past ´deletes" carried out by your noble fingers...

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    sounds like you´re catching on..  good for you!

     

     

    3106.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 12:14 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     

    I see the donkey has been made redundant.

     

     Good morning PT - feel the lurveeeeee!

    3107.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:07 pm

    everyone is silent

    nobody wants to post anything interesting.

    3108.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:08 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    everyone is silent

    nobody wants to post anything interesting.

     

     You are all silent because you find it hard to post anything nice and lurvvving! lol



    Edited (3/15/2009) by TheAenigma

    3109.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:10 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     You are all silent because you find it hard to post anything nice and lurvvving! lol

     

     Hey, I already told two people I lurvvv them! That´s my limit!

    3110.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:11 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    everyone is silent

    nobody wants to post anything interesting.

     

    ha ha

    We are still in a state of shock since we have been visiting the opposite corners of our feelings in a short period of time, Femme. 

    3111.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:13 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     You are all silent because you find it hard to post anything nice and lurvvving! lol

     

     bingo!

    3112.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 01:15 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    ha ha

    We are still in a state of shock since we have been visiting the opposite corners of our feelings in a short period of time, Femme. 

     

     nothing to add true.

    as for me, i had a political fight already with my husband this very morning, and cant come out with that to the love thread.

    3113.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 06:55 pm

     

    Basic personal freedom of lettuce usage is taken away from Britons:

     

    A West Midlands sandwich bar worker who was prosecuted after footage of him stuffing lettuce up his nose appeared on YouTube has avoided a jail term.

    ...

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7937945.stm

     

     

    "God save the queen
    The fascist regime"

     



    Edited (3/15/2009) by thehandsom

    3114.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 07:07 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Basic personal freedom of lettuce usage is taken away from Britons:

     

    A West Midlands sandwich bar worker who was prosecuted after footage of him stuffing lettuce up his nose appeared on YouTube has avoided a jail term.

    ...

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7937945.stm

     

     

    "God save the queen
    The fascist regime"

     

    And it´s a well known custom to be polite to waiters/waitresses in restaurants here, for obvious reasons

     



    Edited (3/15/2009) by peacetrain [typo]

    3115.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Mar 2009 Sun 09:24 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

    And it´s a well known custom to be polite to waiters/waitresses in restaraunts here, for obvious reasons

     

     

     be polite....be very polite......one poor customer after the third send back of his steak eventually exclaimed it was the most exquisite steak he had ever tasted.........man... did the chef nearly die laughing {#lang_emotions_puking}

    3116.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     16 Mar 2009 Mon 12:48 am

    999 nudes wanted for airline stunt... (It was the news on 9th of March appearantly)

     

    It will be in central London on Sunday March 15 and adds: "You won’t be completely naked - you’ll be given something small to wear over your private parts."

    The airline isn´t named but a link through to the websitehttp://www.999nudes.com/ quoted reveals those taking part will receive two free tickets to one of eight European destinations from Gatwick.

     

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/news/article5874582.ece

     

    And below the pictures from the event

     

        

     

    And I have a  free ticket

     

    3117.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     16 Mar 2009 Mon 01:30 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    999 nudes wanted for airline stunt... (It was the news on 9th of March appearantly)

     

    It will be in central London on Sunday March 15 and adds: "You won’t be completely naked - you’ll be given something small to wear over your private parts."

    The airline isn´t named but a link through to the websitehttp://www.999nudes.com/ quoted reveals those taking part will receive two free tickets to one of eight European destinations from Gatwick.

     

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/news/article5874582.ece

     

    And below the pictures from the event

     

        

     

    And I have a  free ticket

     

     

     shamrocks? eh only the irish ha ha{#lang_emotions_shy}{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}



    Edited (3/16/2009) by lessluv

    3118.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     16 Mar 2009 Mon 09:42 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Basic personal freedom of lettuce usage is taken away from Britons:

     

    A West Midlands sandwich bar worker who was prosecuted after footage of him stuffing lettuce up his nose appeared on YouTube has avoided a jail term.

    ...

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7937945.stm

     

     

    "God save the queen
    The fascist regime"

     

     

     I thought this was a well known British custom!  AEnigma....I am not eating any more sandwiches at your house!! 

    3119.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     16 Mar 2009 Mon 09:57 pm

    There is a little_girl and a girleegirl......are they related?

     

    yilgun 7.....deleted (was it something we said?)

     

    teas....still MIA after almost 2 months.  Please come back.....I still don´t like Obama!

    3120.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     16 Mar 2009 Mon 10:06 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    There is a little_girl and a girleegirl......are they related?

     

    yilgun 7.....deleted (was it something we said?)

     

    teas....still MIA after almost 2 months.  Please come back.....I still don´t like Obama!

     

     1. No....is she trying to steal my thunder?  {#lang_emotions_rant}

    2. He left and came back before didn´t he?  {#lang_emotions_unsure}

    3. Teas....get your ass back here.  Whatever Lis said to upset you and make you leave, I´m sure she didn´t mean it!!  {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

    3121.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     16 Mar 2009 Mon 10:51 pm

    amrikans hijacked the site

    3122.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 01:06 am

     

    Quoting femmeous

    amrikans hijacked the site

     

     Don´t be skeered femmy....we won´t hurt you {#lang_emotions_ninja}

    3123.       portokal
    2516 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 02:13 am

    A letter in TC mailbox...

    I feel love coming around{#lang_emotions_shy}{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

    here we go:

     

    Hello.Dear Friend

    My Name is (Stella Johnson) How are you and how is your work hope all is moving fine.i seek for honest partner and i meet you it was interesting and attractive then i drop by to know who this was, i will like to know more about you. if you wouldn´t mind you can email me at my mail. here (Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com)
     
    i will be very glad to read your mail with all pleasure. it will be nice to meet you and also read from you. please do honor my invitation so that we can exchange our pictures and maybe become partner.

    Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other.i wait to hear from you soon.
    kiss regards Miss Stella,

    (Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com

    3124.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 03:45 am

    Better than khazakis hijacking for sure...

    I wonder how your friendly kitty mod will delete this one in accordance with the board rules...

     

    Quoting femmeous

    amrikans hijacked the site

     

     

    3125.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 09:30 am

     

    Quoting portokal

    A letter in TC mailbox...

    I feel love coming around{#lang_emotions_shy}{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

    here we go:

     

    Hello.Dear Friend

    My Name is (Stella Johnson) How are you and how is your work hope all is moving fine.i seek for honest partner and i meet you it was interesting and attractive then i drop by to know who this was, i will like to know more about you. if you wouldn´t mind you can email me at my mail. here (Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com)
     
    i will be very glad to read your mail with all pleasure. it will be nice to meet you and also read from you. please do honor my invitation so that we can exchange our pictures and maybe become partner.

    Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other.i wait to hear from you soon.
    kiss regards Miss Stella,

    (Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com

     

     You are a little behind the 8 ball there porto........Lis and I had her first!!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    http://turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_31107_66

    3126.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 09:34 am

    Poor babyglam continues to be lost in the netherworld of the main page....completely oblivious to the going on´s around her.  Tragic!!  {#emotions_dlg.sad}

    3127.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:36 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Poor babyglam continues to be lost in the netherworld of the main page....completely oblivious to the going on´s around her.  Tragic!!  {#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

     probably the best way to be

    3128.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:43 am

     

    Quoting portokal

    A letter in TC mailbox...

    I feel love coming around{#lang_emotions_shy}{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

     

    here we go:

     

    Hello.Dear Friend

    My Name is (Stella Johnson) How are you and how is your work hope all is moving fine.i seek for honest partner and i meet you it was interesting and attractive then i drop by to know who this was, i will like to know more about you. if you wouldn´t mind you can email me at my mail. here 

     
    i will be very glad to read your mail with all pleasure. it will be nice to meet you and also read from you. please do honor my invitation so that we can exchange our pictures and maybe become partner.

    Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other.i wait to hear from you soon.
    kiss regards Miss Stella,

     

     You are one of several hundred by now!!!  If everyone answers or adds her email then she will be a busy lady! {#emotions_dlg.unsure} (btw deleted her email address from the post)

    3129.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:31 am

     why are you so scared of admins deleting your posts? this one is quite innocent.

    btw, i can tease evil amrikans as much as i want.

    learn to spell, you seemed to be perfect in English, mr teacher, its "Kazakhs" not kazakhis.

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Better than khazakis hijacking for sure...

    I wonder how your friendly kitty mod will delete this one in accordance with the board rules...

     

     

     

     

     

    3130.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 01:48 pm

    Pope: condoms not the answer in AIDS fight

    ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE – Pope Benedict XVI said Tuesday that the distribution of condoms is not the answer in the fight against AIDS in Africa.

    Benedict has never before spoken explicitly on condom use although he has stressed that the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of the battle against AIDS. (Oh yeah?) The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease. (Brilliant idea! You crazy?)

    "You can´t resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon. "On the contrary, it increases the problem." What the hell!

    Some priests and nuns working with victims of the AIDS pandemic ravaging Africa question the church´s opposition to condoms.

    ...

    He said that while the church does not propose specific economic solutions, it can give "spiritual and moral" suggestions. (Gee, thanks Benny Flowers  )

    Describing the current crisis as the consequence of "a deficit of ethics in economic structures," the pope said, "It is here that the church can make a contribution." (Again Benny, your generosity is overwhelming!)

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/i/721

     

    Another example how religion hurts people.



    Edited (3/17/2009) by Melek74
    Edited (3/17/2009) by Melek74

    3131.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 01:58 pm

     this bunch of old vatican monks should be given an opportunity to live in africa.

    Quoting Melek74

    Pope: condoms not the answer in AIDS fight

    ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE – Pope Benedict XVI said Tuesday that the distribution of condoms is not the answer in the fight against AIDS in Africa.

    Benedict has never before spoken explicitly on condom use although he has stressed that the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of the battle against AIDS. (Oh yeah?) The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease. (Brilliant idea! You crazy?)

    "You can´t resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon. "On the contrary, it increases the problem." What the hell!

    Some priests and nuns working with victims of the AIDS pandemic ravaging Africa question the church´s opposition to condoms.

    ...

    He said that while the church does not propose specific economic solutions, it can give "spiritual and moral" suggestions. (Gee, thanks Benny Flowers  )

    Describing the current crisis as the consequence of "a deficit of ethics in economic structures," the pope said, "It is here that the church can make a contribution." (Again Benny, your generosity is overwhelming!)

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/i/721

     

    Another example how religion hurts people.

     

     

    3132.       portokal
    2516 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 02:42 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     You are a little behind the 8 ball there porto........Lis and I had her first!!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    http://turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_31107_66

     

    lol

    And how was it? As shocking as for me?

    3133.       portokal
    2516 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 02:45 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     You are one of several hundred by now!!!  If everyone answers or adds her email then she will be a busy lady! {#emotions_dlg.unsure} (btw deleted her email address from the post)

     

    Well, yes.

    Seems we all share Stella. lol

    She might get busy... but still, it looks like she wants to get busy, isn´t it?

     

     

    3134.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 03:48 pm

     

    Quoting portokal

     

     

    Well, yes.

    Seems we all share Stella. lol

    She might get busy... but still, it looks like she wants to get busy, isn´t it?

     

     

     Perhaps she will work out a schedule for her harem....like Handsom did!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3135.       portokal
    2516 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     Perhaps she will work out a schedule for her harem....like Handsom did!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

    Hmm... we could start an email chain, like if you send this Turkey advertising to 20 different persons from your mail list, you might win a free Turkey holiday for two in Antalya. And to have that, make sure you put Stellamail in carboncopy...Roll eyes

     



    Edited (3/17/2009) by portokal

    3136.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:27 pm

    Rocco Siffredi appeared today {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    3137.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:29 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Rocco Siffredi appeared today {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

     

    back from Poland?Big smile what is he up to now?Scared

    3138.       Rocco Siffredi
    60 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:32 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Rocco Siffredi appeared today {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

     

     you miss me too Cool

    3139.       portokal
    2516 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 04:39 pm

     

    Rocco Siffredi

     

     

     

     

    Mamma mia!What the hell! Are you the polska dancer?



    Edited (3/17/2009) by portokal

    3140.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 06:14 pm

    DAMASCUS, MARCH 16 - A Syrian writer and human rights activist, who has been in prison several times for publicly asking for political reforms in the country that has been ruled by the Baath regime for forty years, was sentenced to three years in prison today. According to Syrian human rights organisation ONDUS, Habib Saleh (62 years old) was sentenced today to three years in prison by the criminal court of Damascus under charges of "spreading false information to weaken national sentiment and to reawaken confessional dissent". "Many European and Western diplomats, as well as activists in the community, were present this morning when the verdict was read", an ONDUS note explains. Saleh, who was arrested six times between 1982 and May 2008, was arrested almost a year ago by government security services after publishing an article on internet in which he asked for political reforms. Since the accession in the summer of 2000 of President Bashar al-Assad, son of the deceased Hafiz al-Asad, tens of civilians and human rights activists have been imprisoned for "spreading false information to weaken national sentiment".

    3141.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:03 pm

    Who said I am scared of mods "khazaki"? I just don´t happen to suck up to them like you do, and tell certain ones exactly what they are in terms of being icons of "double-standard"...

    And, among us two, you are right, I do happen to speak the saxon tongue better than you ever will with that thick accent of yours...

    Since you brought up the topic of learning, maybe it is about time you learned some good manners, while I learn how to spell... Ok, Khazaki???

    Quoting femmeous

     why are you so scared of admins deleting your posts? this one is quite innocent.

    btw, i can tease evil amrikans as much as i want.

    learn to spell, you seemed to be perfect in English, mr teacher, its "Kazakhs" not kazakhis.

     

     

     

     

     

    3142.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:31 pm

     

    Quoting Rocco Siffredi

     

     

     you miss me too Cool

     

    I am sure everybody misses you man..

    But I am sure Aenigma will anounce soon when ´TC laughing day´ will be.

    You are needed on that day..

    You must not  miss it ..

    3143.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:39 pm

     Puking i pass

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Who said I am scared of mods "khazaki"? I just don´t happen to suck up to them like you do, and tell certain ones exactly what they are in terms of being icons of "double-standard"...

    And, among us two, you are right, I do happen to speak the saxon tongue better than you ever will with that thick accent of yours...

    Since you brought up the topic of learning, maybe it is about time you learned some good manners, while I learn how to spell... Ok, Khazaki???

     

     

     

     

    3144.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:43 pm

    Do you mean you pass in the sense of passing the "spelling bee contest"?Alcoholics

    Quoting femmeous

     Puking i pass

     

     

     

     

    3145.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:45 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Since you brought up the topic of learning, maybe it is about time you learned some good manners, while I learn how to spell...

     

     Let´s try it the other way around, femme learns to spell and you learn good manners. I´m sure she will be soon years ahead of you.

    3146.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:47 pm

    That would be the day, and in the mean time, you could always teach the rest of us unfortunate ones how to shed those extra pounds... 

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Let´s try it the other way around, femme learns to spell and you learn good manners. I´m sure she will be soon years ahead of you.

     

     



    Edited (3/17/2009) by cynicmystic [forgot to add one critical word...]

    3147.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:49 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    That would be the day, and in the mean time, you could always teach the rest of us unfortunate ones how to shed those pounds... 

     

     

     

     Pounds? I thought they weigh your brains in milligrams.

    3148.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:50 pm

    Better than having a bum wheighed in tons...

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Pounds? I thought they weigh your brains in milligrams.

     

     

    3149.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:51 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Pounds? I thought they weigh your brains in milligrams.

     

     lol this must be framed

    3150.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:52 pm

     So must this...Laugh at

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     lol this must be framed

     

     

    3151.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:54 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Better than having a bum wheighed in tons... 

     

     Sure honey, but with a bum of tons I still have a brain while you...... Did you insure the last few working cells?

     

    BTW - talking about spelling, there is no extra h in ´weighed´

    3152.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 10:57 pm

    So you do agree that your bum is weighed in tons then?

    Just for the record... 

     

    The sort of weighed that applies to bums in tons does require the extra h...

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Sure honey, but with a bum of tons I still have a brain while you...... Did you insure the last few working cells?

     

    BTW - talking about spelling, there is no extra h in ´weighed´

     

     

    3153.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:02 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    So you do agree that your bum is weighed in tons then?

    Just for the record... 

     

    The sort of weighed that applies to bums in tons does require the extra h...

     

     

     

     Also bad in maths dear? There goes your last cell..   Nurse! Can you bring the Ritalin, Valium and Oxycontin please?

    3154.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:06 pm

    Yes nurse, please do bring them...

    Trudy is about to have a baby due to certain renegade cells in her body...

    She is suffering...

    Good try my tuna fish... 

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Also bad in maths dear? There goes your last cell..   Nurse! Can you bring the Ritalin, Valium and Oxycontin please?

     

     

    3155.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:09 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Yes nurse, please do bring them...

    Trudy is about to have a baby due to certain renegade cells in her body...

    She is suffering...

    Good try my tuna fish... 

     

    Delivering a baby can´t be of more pain than is in your erm.... mind. Want your od before or after breakfast?

    3156.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:10 pm

    I would like it after I chow down my fat tuna sandwich (zero trans fat though), if you wouldn´t mind... hehe 

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Delivering a baby can´t be of more pain than is in your erm.... mind. Want your od before or after breakfast?

     

     

    3157.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:15 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    I would like it after I chow down my fat tuna sandwich (zero trans fat though), if you wouldn´t mind... hehe 

     

    Can you still chew without teeth in your mouth? You´re spitting saliva so much that it´s obvious you don´t have any left.   

    3158.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:17 pm

    Still better than having a bum in tons, I guess...

    I can always get my teeth fixed & wipe the spit...

    What can one do about your tuna problem though? 

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Can you still chew without teeth in your mouth? You´re spitting saliva so much that it´s obvious you don´t have any left.   

     

     



    Edited (3/17/2009) by cynicmystic

    3159.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:25 pm

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Still better than having a bum in tons, I guess...

    I can always get my teeth fixed & wipe the spit...

    What can one do about your tuna problem though? 

     

     

     It is you seeing tuna fish. Probably there is medication for that as well. Don´t forget to take all your pills lovely, you´re getting delusional.

    3160.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:41 pm

    And I suggest you shouldn´t forget about that special diet you embarked on Monday...

    Make sure it doesn´t end in a feeding frenzy like it always does by Friday lunch time... There is still hope, remember... I wish there was a pill you could take to switch back from the ton scale to the milligram one... maybe one day, who knows... 

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     It is you seeing tuna fish. Probably there is medication for that as well. Don´t forget to take all your pills lovely, you´re getting delusional.

     

     

    3161.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     17 Mar 2009 Tue 11:43 pm

    Here is something you may find very useful...

    http://www.proweightlossguide.com/

    Make sure you consult your doctor first though. we wouldn´t want any undesirable side effects, such as the tons turning into mega tons...

    3162.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 12:43 am

    Slow Sex Urban Retreat Centre


    The founder of the One Taste Urban Retreat Center, Nicole Daedone, sees herself as leading “the slow-sex movement,” one that places a near-exclusive emphasis on women’s pleasure — in which love, romance and even flirtation are not required.

    "In our culture, admitting our bodies matter is almost an admission of failure," said Ms. Daedone, 41, who can quote the poet Mary Oliver and speak wryly on the intricacies of women’s anatomy with equal aplomb. "I don’t think women will really experience freedom until they own their sexuality." (I agree with this 99% btw)


    At 7 a.m. each day, as the rest of America is eating Cheerios or trying to face gridlock without hyperventilating, about a dozen women, naked from the waist down, lie with eyes closed in a velvet-curtained room, while clothed men huddle over them, stroking them in a ritual known as orgasmic meditation OMing, for short. The couples, who may or may not be romantically involved, call one another "research partners."

    the rest:




    Anybody is looking for a "research partner for Oming"?  lol lol 

     



    Edited (3/18/2009) by thehandsom

    3163.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 01:30 am

    Dude, for the first time, you made me laugh with your post. I agree. Good post... really... How do you come across this sort of stuff  

    Quoting thehandsom

    Slow Sex Urban Retreat Centre


    The founder of the One Taste Urban Retreat Center, Nicole Daedone, sees herself as leading “the slow-sex movement,” one that places a near-exclusive emphasis on women’s pleasure — in which love, romance and even flirtation are not required.

    "In our culture, admitting our bodies matter is almost an admission of failure," said Ms. Daedone, 41, who can quote the poet Mary Oliver and speak wryly on the intricacies of women’s anatomy with equal aplomb. "I don’t think women will really experience freedom until they own their sexuality." (I agree with this 99% btw)


    At 7 a.m. each day, as the rest of America is eating Cheerios or trying to face gridlock without hyperventilating, about a dozen women, naked from the waist down, lie with eyes closed in a velvet-curtained room, while clothed men huddle over them, stroking them in a ritual known as orgasmic meditation OMing, for short. The couples, who may or may not be romantically involved, call one another "research partners."

    the rest:




    Anybody is looking for a "research partner for Oming"?  lol lol 

     

     

     

    3164.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 03:10 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Dude, for the first time, you made me laugh with your post. I agree. Good post... really... How do you come across this sort of stuff

     

    dude, who cares if you agree.. 

    3165.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 03:30 am

    Dudette, who cares if you agree whether I agree? It is a public forum, and within the rules of this board, I can agree, or disagree without your miserable attempt at harrasment.

    Go bark up another tree. You are barking up the wrong tree as usual...

    And don´t let your personal vendetta blind you either, while making sure that the door doesn´t slam on your kitty buttom on the way out...

    Very contributional post btw... Your kitty medallion is on its way. Once you get it, you can wear it together with your name tag... 

    Kitty kat...

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    dude, who cares if you agree.. 

     

     



    Edited (3/18/2009) by cynicmystic
    Edited (3/18/2009) by cynicmystic

    3166.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 03:55 am

     

    Quoting cynicmystic

    Dudette, who cares if you agree whether I agree? It is a public forum, and within the rules of this board, I can agree, or disagree without your miserable attempt at harrasment.

    Go bark up another tree. You are barking up the wrong tree as usual...

    And don´t let your personal vendetta blind you either, while making sure that the door doesn´t slam on your kitty buttom on the way out...

    Very contributional post btw... Your kitty medallion is on its way. Once you get it, you can wear it together with your name tag... 

    Kitty kat...

     

    all this vandetta applies equally to your post above... and you speak of double standards? lol

    3167.       cynicmystic
    567 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 04:06 am

    I don´t see how there is any vendetta at all kitty. I actually liked hansom´s post and commented on it, until you showed up with your own personal vendetta...

    Plus, who could ever beat the Queen of Double Standard?

    That´s you btw...

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    all this vandetta applies equally to your post above... and you speak of double standards? lol

     

     

    3168.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 01:31 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Slow Sex Urban Retreat Centre


    The founder of the One Taste Urban Retreat Center, Nicole Daedone, sees herself as leading “the slow-sex movement,” one that places a near-exclusive emphasis on women’s pleasure — in which love, romance and even flirtation are not required.

    "In our culture, admitting our bodies matter is almost an admission of failure," said Ms. Daedone, 41, who can quote the poet Mary Oliver and speak wryly on the intricacies of women’s anatomy with equal aplomb. "I don’t think women will really experience freedom until they own their sexuality." (I agree with this 99% btw)


    At 7 a.m. each day, as the rest of America is eating Cheerios or trying to face gridlock without hyperventilating, about a dozen women, naked from the waist down, lie with eyes closed in a velvet-curtained room, while clothed men huddle over them, stroking them in a ritual known as orgasmic meditation OMing, for short. The couples, who may or may not be romantically involved, call one another "research partners."

    the rest:





     

     

     The thought of this makes my skin crawl!! {#emotions_dlg.confused}  Is this really the way for women to experience freedom until they own their sexuality?? 

     

    I can never understand why some women have such a problem with sex............... {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    3169.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 02:54 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     The thought of this makes my skin crawl!! {#emotions_dlg.confused}  Is this really the way for women to experience freedom until they own their sexuality?? 

     

    I can never understand why some women have such a problem with sex............... {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

     

     I actually agree with you libra.....I thought that the oming sounded very degrading.  Why would you have to be in a room full of half naked women and participate such a bizzare ceremony to experience sexual freedom?  

     

    Maybe we missed something, eh?  Unsure

    3170.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 03:03 pm

    Conviction quashed after 27 years!!!!!!


     


    A man jailed for murdering a woman in 1979 has had his conviction quashed at the Court of Appeal after spending 27 years in prison.


    Sean Hodgson was jailed for killing Teresa De Simone, 22, who was found strangled in her car in Southampton in December 1979.


    Tests prove DNA from the scene was not his and police have reopened the case.


    Mr Hodgson, now 57, is one of the longest-serving victims of a miscarriage of justice in the UK.


     


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7950303.stm



    Edited (3/18/2009) by TheAenigma

    3171.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 03:19 pm

    Nine parts of desire

     

     

    http://www.geraldinebrooks.com/nine.html

    3172.       Rocco Siffredi
    60 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 04:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I am sure everybody misses you man..

    But I am sure Aenigma will anounce soon when ´TC laughing day´ will be.

    You are needed on that day..

    You must not  miss it ..

     

     I´ll laugh at your ass on that day man, don´t worry.Cool



    Edited (3/18/2009) by Rocco Siffredi

    3173.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 06:21 pm

    MULTAN, Pakistan - A Pakistani gang-rape victim who shunned custom and rose to global fame by speaking out about her case has defied another local taboo — she just got married.


    Mukhtar Mai is now the second wife of Nasir Abbas Gabol, a police officer who was assigned to protect her as her case gained notoriety. He said she was reluctant to accept his offer and that he threatened suicide when she turned him down.


    Mai was gang raped at the order of a tribal council in the eastern province of Punjab in 2002 to punish her family for her brother´s alleged affair with a woman from a higher-caste family. There were also allegations that the boy had been molested by members of the other family, and that the accusations of the affair were used to cover up the crime.


     


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29749376


     


    Not sure what I think about her being a "second wife" but I admire her courage in speaking out.

    3174.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 06:27 pm

     shes 2 times lucky. first, talibs possibly havent heard of her. second, she was offered a marriage. most of raped girls, women simply commit suicide or got killed with the help of the family.

    when i hear such things i doubt i live in XXI century.

    Quoting Elisabeth

    MULTAN, Pakistan - A Pakistani gang-rape victim who shunned custom and rose to global fame by speaking out about her case has defied another local taboo — she just got married.

    Mukhtar Mai is now the second wife of Nasir Abbas Gabol, a police officer who was assigned to protect her as her case gained notoriety. He said she was reluctant to accept his offer and that he threatened suicide when she turned him down.

    Mai was gang raped at the order of a tribal council in the eastern province of Punjab in 2002 to punish her family for her brother´s alleged affair with a woman from a higher-caste family. There were also allegations that the boy had been molested by members of the other family, and that the accusations of the affair were used to cover up the crime.

     

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29749376

     

    Not sure what I think about her being a "second wife" but I admire her courage in speaking out.

     

     

    3175.       portokal
    2516 posts
     18 Mar 2009 Wed 07:55 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKWIYMUkgE&feature=related

     

    Bruno Bozzetto - Men VS Women: The Differences

    3176.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:19 am

    Two members gone: Cynicmystic - can´t say I´ll shed one tear about that but Melek74 is gone too. Pity, she was fun.

    3177.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 10:26 am

    British actress Natasha Richardson has died from head injuries sustained in a skiing accident in Canada.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7949195.stm

     

    what a freak accident..

    3178.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:56 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    British actress Natasha Richardson has died from head injuries sustained in a skiing accident in Canada.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7949195.stm

     

    what a freak accident..

     

     total freak accidentSad... and on a nursery slope

    3179.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 12:59 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     total freak accidentSad... and on a nursery slope

     

     ...its awful...just shows how fragile life is really...just gone in a flash

    3180.       libralady
    5152 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 02:19 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    British actress Natasha Richardson has died from head injuries sustained in a skiing accident in Canada.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7949195.stm

     

    what a freak accident..

     

     This is a terrible.  A seemingly innocuous accident at first which has this result.

    3181.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 02:57 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Two members gone: Cynicmystic - can´t say I´ll shed one tear about that but Melek74 is gone too. Pity, she was fun.

     

     I will definately miss Melek74!

    3182.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:20 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I will definately miss Melek74!

     

     I think everyone will - hopefully she will come back.

    3183.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:32 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     I think everyone will - hopefully she will come back.

     

     Well hopefully she will be back, she will be missed - and hopefully next time she will not be put in the position of go-between for muck spreaders...



    Edited (3/19/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (3/19/2009) by TheAenigma

    3184.       sheena
    308 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:47 pm

    what? cynicmystic gone........I have missed some forums Head bang

     

    what about the adventures of the dudu?.......it isn´t finished, maybe thehandsome can finish it!No way



    Edited (3/19/2009) by sheena

    3185.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:48 pm

     

    Quoting sheena

    what about the adventures of the dudu?.......it isn´t finished

    ...

     

     Oh I forgot that - its a shame

    3186.       sheena
    308 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:52 pm

    Quoting TheAenigma

     Oh I forgot that - its a shame

     

    Maybe we could attach it to the never ending story and finish it ourselves!    

    What do you think? heheheUnsure

    3187.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:54 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Two members gone: Cynicmystic

     

     the most important Sui is still here

    3188.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 03:54 pm

     

    Quoting sheena

    Quoting TheAenigma

     Oh I forgot that - its a shame

     

    Maybe we could attach it to the never ending story and finish it ourselves!    

    What do you think? heheheUnsure

     

     lol

    3189.       sheena
    308 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:01 pm

    Quoting femmeous

    Quoting Trudy

    Two members gone: Cynicmystic

     

     the most important Sui is still here

     

    May I be so bold as to ask why Sui is the most important? Shy



    Edited (3/19/2009) by sheena

    3190.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:26 pm

    sheena, you dont know? me and sui?

    3191.       sheena
    308 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:34 pm

    Quoting femmeous 

    sheena, you dont know? me and sui?

     

     

    ahah! since you put it like that .......... say no more!

    I will nip over to the translation lounge before its sold, and get all the gossip....Cell phone my lips will be sealed.

    3192.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:38 pm

     

    Quoting sheena

    Quoting TheAenigma

     Oh I forgot that - its a shame

     

    Maybe we could attach it to the never ending story and finish it ourselves!    

    What do you think? heheheUnsure

     

     you think you are capable to keep it in his style?

    3193.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:43 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    sheena, you dont know? me and sui?

     

     Hmmm you are spreading your evil Borat ideas to Sui - I notice he has become quite the closet nationalist lately



    Edited (3/19/2009) by TheAenigma

    3194.       sheena
    308 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:43 pm

    Quoting femmeous

    you think you are capable to keep it in his style?

     

    We don´t need to,  because he´s been killed off and the story could continue with the dudu killer telling it!   after all it is now the never ending story.................



    Edited (3/19/2009) by sheena

    3195.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:45 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Hmmm you are spreading your evil Borat ideas to Sui - I notice he has become quite the closet nationalist lately

     

    You would beg to God as all the nationalists would be like me

     

    3196.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:45 pm

     

    Quoting sheena

    Quoting femmeous

    you think you are capable to keep it in his style?

     

    We don´t need to be, because he´s been killed off and the story could continue with the dudu killer telling it! after all it is now the never ending story.................

     

     aha sounds fantastic long live the queen of iceland!

    3197.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:47 pm

     

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

    You would beg to God as all the nationalists would be like me

     

     

     OUhhhhhhhh

    Are you implying that your fellow nationalists are not nice?

    3198.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:48 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     OUhhhhhhhh

    Are you implying that your fellow nationalists are not nice?

     

     I do not know who you are implying but i talk about general and for every nations

    3199.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:49 pm

     Laugh at

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

     I do not know who you are implying but i talk about general and for every nations

     

     

    3200.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:50 pm

     

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

    You would beg to God as all the nationalists would be like me

     

     

    sui, darlink, dont say anything. she will kill you

     

    3201.       SuiGeneris
    3922 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:52 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    sui, darlink, dont say anything. she will kill you

     

     

     OH yes! i shouldnt ask for everyone to be like me then it would be hard to compete

    3202.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:54 pm

     

    Quoting SuiGeneris

     

     

     OH yes! i shouldnt ask for everyone to be like me then it would be hard to compete

     

     In your dreams! lollollol

    3203.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 04:58 pm

    Just saw this:

     

    SPL87906

     

    it says:

    Robo-croc´ - the 10ft long reptile with four metal plates and 41 screws in its head. The 250lb crocodile was patched up with steel work after being hit by a car in the Florida Keys.

     



    Edited (3/19/2009) by thehandsom

    3204.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 05:01 pm

    hairy, are you not interested in pandas anymore?

    3205.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 05:40 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    hairy, are you not interested in pandas anymore?

     

     I dont think he liked all the fur

    3206.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 05:57 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Two members gone: Cynicmystic - Melek74

     

     Ãts a loss, both of them actually.

    Melek is nice and very helpful really, and cynic also was helpful -when he is in the mood i may add- and has  many informative, and  lengthy posts were/are good readings.

    3207.       libralady
    5152 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 06:03 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Ãts a loss, both of them actually.

    Melek is nice and very helpful really, and cynic also was helpful -when he is in the mood i may add- and has  many informative, and  lengthy posts were/are good readings.

     

     Canli, I hate to say this but you must have been wearing rose tinted glasses..............

     

     

    now Yilgin going was more of a loss, a young enthusiastic young man who never had a bad word to say (but just bored people with his few lists)

    3208.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 06:12 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Canli, I hate to say this but you must have been wearing rose tinted glasses..............

     

     

    now Yilgin going was more of a loss, a young enthusiastic young man who never had a bad word to say (but just bored people with his few lists)

     

     Well LL, i dont, and didnt agree with many of cynics´ posts, and style, but still, the man was very much helpful at the language forum, me and many others i may add have/had benefits from the information he has explained and shared

    Also he has many informative posts including also his column, so i cant say i didnt get a benefit from all of this.

    Ýts his right to state such.

    Ýts a loss that things didnt go as they should back to norm

    3209.       alameda
    3499 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 06:31 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Well LL, i dont, and didnt agree with many of cynics´ posts, and style, but still, the man was very much helpful at the language forum, me and many others i may add have/had benefits from the information he has explained and shared

    Also he has many informative posts including also his column, so i cant say i didnt get a benefit from all of this.

    Ýts his right to state such.

    Ýts a loss that things didnt go as they should back to norm

     

     I agree with Canlý...it is a great loss for us here....at least those who are interested in diverse ideas and opinions. We have lost some good Turkish thinkers who are able to articulate their ideas. I think of vineyards and miss his input here.

     

    Actually it looked more to me like he was the one being harassed.

     

    He was one of the most literate people who have taken the time to post here. He offered well thought out and informed opinion. I was reading some of his older posts. In particular message # 33 in this thread... It was probably too deep and verbose for many here to read. They prefer a few cute words to a well thought out essay on the matter. If you actually read his analysis, and the subsequent comments, it´s obvious not many actually took time to read what he had to say.

     

    "I am neither sure from which country the individual who posted this article is nor do I particularly care about it. Unlike you, however, I will show the courtesy of sharing with others my background, which is Turkish. Had you done the same, we would know where you are from, as well.

     

    Copy-pasting a rather "biased" article to start a "charged" topic without any of your own input or thoughts clearly shows that unless someone else puts it into writing, you do not seem to be able to do it for yourself. As a result, instead of responding to your own thoughts, the readers of your pathetic thread are forced to respond to an "article". Well, we might as well send a carbon copy of our replies to the publishing newspaper as well, wouldn´t you say?

     

    Since my reply is actually to an article, I hope you won´t take what I say personally, and be offended. 

    Let´s start with an analysis of the bombastic lingo in this article...

    ".............. These European-looking Turks are also quite militarist and nationalist according to Western standards."

     

    What the hell are we supposed to understand from an idiotic statement like this? The look that has been falsely labelled as "European" is actually "Caucasian", which is surely not in the monopoly of Europeans exclusively. The Caucasian look belongs to Eurasia, and the Caucauses, the origin of the term itself, is ironically closer to Turkey than to any Western Europen country. If the European look is referring to the un-Islamic & fashionable outfits in Turkey, then, it must be said that there are more mullahs in London & Paris these days than there are in Turkey.

     

    Another important issue is the criteria for the so-called "western standards" in regards to being "militaristic nationalists". Believe me that there are no such standards, and any bombastic author that makes such references in his writing is surely talking out of his ass. On a different tune, Europeans aren´t impressing anyone in the world with their "European standards" anymore anyways. Those days have been over for quite a while.

     

    Regarding the issue of indoctrination at Turkish schools, I am surprised by how one-sided his view is. Every country in the world that has an education system & a national identity indoctrinates their young ones. Yes, the level and intensity of indoctrination varies from country to country, but nevertheless, every country, even the "civilized" Western countries, indoctrinate their children in one form or the other. If the writer of the article, and the other clowns on this forum, who seem to support his views, are claiming that the situation in Turkey is exceptional, and much worse, then I would have to disagree with that.

     

    As someone who had to go through the ritual of "swearing alliance & oath" in the mornings, on the contrary to the writer´s claims, I didn´t turn out to be a "militaristic Kemalist" bent on supressing other minorities and imposing Kemalist values. In fact, I dislike Kemalists, Nationalists, Patriots, Separatists, Pan-Turkists etc as much as I hate bible-thumping Evangelists, Zionists, Mullahs, and other war-mongering parasites.

     

    For me, the ritual was actually of significant importance, not because it instilled in me a solid sense of "Turkishness & Kemalist values", but simply because it was the only opportunity during the week where all the students gathered in the courtyard. Hormones raging at that age, it was more of a social event where the guys would check out the girls stroll down the stairs, glimpsing at their legs, as each class congregated for the ceremony. As shameless as this may sound, it was a great opportunity to check out the girls that you had a crush on, while winking at the girls, who had a crush on you. Aside from checking out the legs, other very important social activities, such as the exchange of weekend gossip, plans for a soccer game with the rival class during lunch break etc would be discussed.

     

    I never felt like being indoctrinated because, like many of my friends, I never took it seriously, or literally. In fact, had they just bothered to ask, I would have surely preferred to stay in the courtyard all day reciting the oath of alliance than go to classroom. Children in the USA, UK, Germany etc go through severe forms of indoctrination, not only at school, but outside as well through TV and religious activities. Not every corner of North America is as liberal & democratic as New York or LA. I find Americans to be extremely indoctrinated, for example. More so than Turks in fact. The same could be said for the English as well. Writing an article about how children are being brainwashed because of the morning oath is nothing but a cheap shot without much aim.

     

    Let´s quote another bombastic statement:

    "The education system, which constantly praises the “Turkish existence,” curiously says nothing about the existence of other ethnic identities in Turkey."

     

    The education system doesn´t have to say jack about the existence of other ethnicities simply because it is obvious and right there in front of you each time you go for a walk or watch TV. The author would be surprised how many Turks are actually very well aware of the mixed heritage of their homeland and its people in comparison to some of their European & North American counterparts. We all notice the ethnic diversity as well as the non-ethnic diversity.

     

    When I was a little kid, my family lived in the old Armenian quarters of Istanbul, where there was still a significant number of Armenians, who had stayed after WWI. Our right door neighbour was Armenian, and regularly, I would spend evenings at their home playing with their children, if my parents were working late. In the same way, my parents would do the same when they were out. Not only were we aware of each other´s existence, but we interacted with each other as well. From a really young age, I also noticed that a lot of construction workers in Istanbul spoke a language that I couldn´t understand. It didn´t take long to figure out that it was Kurdish. Later on, I also noticed that a lot of the these workers were hired by wealthier Kurdish contractors, who had prospered in Western Turkey, and discriminated and looked down on these workers, as much as their Turkish upper-class Istanbulite friends. Again, later on, I also learned that not all Kurdish dialects spoken in Turkey are mutually intelligable. Zaza, for example, a Kurdish group in Turkey, cannot understand the Kurdish dialect of Kurmanchi, which is spoken by a much larger group of Kurds that live in Turkey, Iran & Iraq. On a trip to the Black Sea region, I couldn´t help giggling at the way the locals talked. How there were non-Turkish dialects of Georgian origin still spoken in pockets of remote villages by the elders, or how the Laz originally came from Georgia and mixed with Pontic Greeks of Trebizond were right there in front of you. When we travelled to the Aegean region, the Greco/Anatolian ethnic elements were also visible. The point I am trying to make is that dramatic examples, such as incishka´s about how a Kurdish student whispered to her/his ear, or the ones expressed in the article are not only inaccurate observations, but are also generalizations.

     

    Yes, there is discrimination & suppression in Turkey in one form or the other just like everywhere else in the world. However, this discrimination is not exactly or predominantly ethnic. It is a lot more complicated than that. For example, wealthier Turks, usually of Istanbul, discriminate against the so-called "kro" Turks of the eastern provinces. They make fun of the way they talk, call them "peasents", and the very word "kro", which is a derivateive of the name of the Kurdish dialect, Kurmanchi, applies equally to anyone, whether Turkish or Kurdish, that doesn´t meet superficial Istanbulite standards.

    Among the so-called "peasents of the east", there is uniform resentment against the spoiled, and snobby city-dwellers & the plasticity of their culture. The pan-Turkists, who suffer from a minor case of delusion, want a unified Turkic empire across central Asia. They usually beat up innocent people, who fail to make the "Ulkucu" wolf sign with their hands during their traffic blockdes. The religious fundamentalist pundits come in all shapes and ethnicities ready to massacre all others, too, once given the opportunity. The lower-middle class is always ready to be duped by propaganda and flock out to the streets to protest this or that. Ethnicity hardly ever plays a role in most cases.

     

    The wealthier western Kurds discrminate against other eastern Kurds that are part of the ashiret clan system. The ashiret leaders literally exert authority over thousands of their clan members through their own interpretation of their "tore". It is literally brutal. The political bears of Ankara prize themselves the most in bogus forms of Kemalism, thinking that they are the only ones in the whole country preoccupied with maintaining the unity of our homeland against all outside powers bent on demolishing us, the Republic of Turkey!!!

     

    For many of these multi-ethnical & political posers, if they don´t see a framed picture of Ataturk in your office, you are immediately labelled as a parasite to the Kemalist cause.

     

    To keep this brief, the point is rather simple. The truth is that the people, who live in Turkey, regardless of their ethnic origins, are very gullible, and yet not so naive. It is easy to play with their emotions, and manipulate their thoughts, but they are absolutely not products of an educational system that has "brainwashed" them. This observation in the article is wrong.

     

    People who live in Turkey are very well aware of the progress Turkey has made as well as its shortcomings. Nobody of any ethnic background is blind or dumb. On the contrary to the article, we aren´t all brainwashed, at least not significantly more than our counterparts in other countries.

    Thanks to bombastic news in the media, there is always a way to find a suitable victim to instigate a national paranoia in Turkey - particularly against Greece & Armenia, if not the PKK. You can always pump up the patriotic bravada with bogus media stories about a Greek invasion of a worthless set of islands, or the Armenian diaspora trying to discredit Turks abroad. Barzani was the latest one. It is unbelievable how easy it is to turn masses of normally ordinary people into flag-burning fanatics.

    It is also ironic that the very same people not only burn the flags of the perceived-threat countries, but also burn the flags of foreign soccer teams after losing at the European Cup (always due to the ref). Even domestic teams may suffer being burned by the local fanatics. There is always a good reason to protest in Turkey, and ethnic difference is not at the top of the list.

     

    I actually see a bigger problem in Turkish education system than the oath of alliance. Over the years, a significant number of rather annoying members of the English-speaking world have relocated to Turkey as ESL teachers at private schools. These backpacker-turned-ESL-instructors, who are often not qualified to teach ESL in their own contries, are very much welcomed by Turkish people, and are often admired a lot more than they actually deserve. Such foreigners often find out that they are paid quite well in Turkey, and can actually live a lot better in Istanbul (or Izmir & Ankara) than they ever could in their own countries with their intellectual capacities. It is often a matter of months before they find a Turkish girlfriend or boyfriend, get married and settle down. Once this happens, these backpacker-philosophers develop ideas about the problems of Turkey. They share their annoying & often ignorant views generously at dinner parties that they have been invited to by the parents of their private students, who pay them quite a bit of money to tutor their children. So, the side benefits are obvious. And, they gibber & gibber.

     

    They tell us how there are violations of human rights, police brutality, the suppression of Kurds, domestic violence against women, corruption, Turkish mullahs, what Turkey needs to do to join the EU etc etc etc etc. They have a freaking idea about everything, and believe me when I tell you that they annoy the hell out of almost every other "educated" Turk that I know. To these ignorant clowns, the only reason why we, the "more educated Turks" may appear as "close-minded militaristic patriots" is perhaps because that is the image we portray on purpose. Along the same lines, when similar individuals post topics on message boards to psyche people up, we tend to write lengthy replies.

    I think your thread is insincere my friend. "

     

    3210.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 07:07 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Ãts a loss, both of them actually.

    Melek is nice and very helpful really, and cynic also was helpful -when he is in the mood i may add- and has  many informative, and  lengthy posts were/are good readings.

      

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     I agree with Canlý...it is a great loss for us here....at least those who are interested in diverse ideas and opinions.

     

    This only goes to prove my point that objections are not about what is said, but WHO is saying it.  Both Alameda and Canli are the biggest objectors to "insults" and yet when the insults come from a different direction (maybe towards those who they object to) then they find it perfectly acceptable.

     

    It works exactly the same way in the other direction too - with other mods finding posts acceptable if they are posted by "allies".

     

    The interesting thing is that I am frequently called a hypocrite for one moment agreeing with a person and then the next, disagreeing - how DARE I suddenly agree with Canli on a post, or Libralady or Alameda?!!! lol  Perhaps that is because I respond to the POST not the person?  I am no angel, but you people sure do take the biscuit

    3211.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 07:10 pm

    A couple of things to say here - firstly Alameda why did you find it necessary to copy cynic´s post in it´s entirety when you had given us the link?

     

    Secondly - informative and helpful as cynic may have been on the one hand, he was also crude and rude in the extreme on the other and in addition caused quite a bit of disruption and upset across the site that wasn´t seen in the forums.  He has also  ´allegedly´ previously been banned from at least two other internet sites - so being deleted from TC probably won´t have come as too much of a shock for him.    

    3212.       alameda
    3499 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 07:30 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    A couple of things to say here - firstly Alameda why did you find it necessary to copy cynic´s post in it´s entirety when you had given us the link?

     

    Secondly - informative and helpful as cynic may have been on the one hand, he was also crude and rude in the extreme on the other and in addition caused quite a bit of disruption and upset across the site that wasn´t seen in the forums.  He has also  ´allegedly´ previously been banned from at least two other internet sites - so being deleted from TC probably won´t have come as too much of a shock for him.    

     

     ....because the link only took you to the page where a page of  messages were, not a specific post. I put the whole post here because it was a very good well thought out post that I thought warranted reading.  It was the result of original thought, not a cut and paste job.

     

    Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.

     

     I really don´t think you, or many of the Europeans who moderate here have a very good understanding of "Eastern" mentality.  In fact, it´s interesting to see all the mods, with the exeption of the language forum,  are female, and with the exception of Canli European. Why is that? With all the talk of liberation and equality, where are the male moderators?  What happened to vineyards, keithl?

     

    He was generous with his time in the Turkish Classes section and went way above and beyond in that area.

    3213.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     ....because the link only took you to the page where a page of  messages were, not a specific post. I put the whole post here because it was a very good well thought out post that I thought warranted reading.  It was the result of original thought, not a cut and paste job.

     

    Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.

     

     I really don´t think you, or many of the Europeans who moderate here have a very good understanding of "Eastern" mentality.  In fact, it´s interesting to see all the mods, with the exeption of the language forum,  are female, and with the exception of Canli European. Why is that? With all the talk of liberation and equality, where are the male moderators?  What happened to vineyards, keithl?

     

    He was generous with his time in the Turkish Classes section and went way above and beyond in that area.

     I think most people would be capable of working out which post your link referred to.

     

    I haven´t noticed other people who feel provoked on the site deliberately stirring up trouble between members behind the scenes.

     

    I am not sure that most educated big-city Turks (which covers most of the frequent posters on the site I think) do have exactly the same mentality as other ´Easterners´ - and neither do most of the Turks I have met here.  And how do we know that Cynic wasn´t from Thrace?  - wouldn´t that make him a European?

     

    As for Vineyards and Keith - I can´t remember exactly why Keith left but Vineyards was twice made a moderator and left after disagreement both times.  I believe he was even asked to be an admin but turned it down.  You will notice that Sui Generis is actually a mod in several of the forums - and he is a Turkish man.

     

    3214.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 07:56 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     I haven´t noticed other people who feel provoked on the site deliberately stirring up trouble between members behind the scenes.

     

     +1000000000000

    3215.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 07:58 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     You will notice that Sui Generis is actually a mod in several of the forums - and he is a Turkish man.

     

     

     According to Femme....he is THE turkish man!!

    3216.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:08 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     According to Femme....he is THE turkish man!!

     

     Nope! I just got a PM from THE Turkish man:

     

    hello how are you my name h**** from turkey me 33 years older singel male never been marrýed l realy lýke your picture so much l realy want meet wýth you pls add me ýf you want meet wýth me ******@hotmail.com

     

    I assume I´m the only one who received this ´love letter´? Eh?

    3217.       libralady
    5152 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:13 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Nope! I just got a PM from THE Turkish man:

     

    hello how are you my name h**** from turkey me 33 years older singel male never been marrýed l realy lýke your picture so much l realy want meet wýth you pls add me ýf you want meet wýth me ******@hotmail.com

     

    I assume I´m the only one who received this ´love letter´? Eh?

     

    Sorry to dissappoint but I have the same one twice - I just reminded him of that!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

     

     If he had said he was very rich and hairy then I might have added him...........  but as it stands .......

     

    3218.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:16 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

    Sorry to dissappoint but I have the same one twice - I just reminded him of that!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

     

     If he had said he was very rich and hairy then I might have added him...........  but as it stands .......

     

     

     Again I´m not THE ONLY ONE! Cry Turkish men always make me cry!

    3219.       libralady
    5152 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Again I´m not THE ONLY ONE! Cry Turkish men always make me cry!

     

     Me too!  I would be nice to be the only one, but does not always work like that <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)  They think they are like our favourite toy and we don´t mind sharing Unsure

    3220.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:25 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    To these ignorant clowns, the only reason why we, the "more educated Turks" may appear as "close-minded militaristic patriots" is perhaps because that is the image we portray on purpose. 

     

     

    OMG why was this NOT DELETED immediately! ......

    3221.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:26 pm

    Well I never got one - maybe I should change my nick to lady in black stockings and suspender belt!   (I have had 3 from amorfati today though - that must count for something lol

    3222.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     In fact, it´s interesting to see all the mods, with the exeption of the language forum,  are female,

     

     I beg to differ!

    TheJanissary has today volunteered to become moderator of the Lounge

    3223.       alameda
    3499 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    This only goes to prove my point that objections are not about what is said, but WHO is saying it.  Both Alameda and Canli are the biggest objectors to "insults" and yet when the insults come from a different direction (maybe towards those who they object to) then they find it perfectly acceptable.

     

    It works exactly the same way in the other direction too - with other mods finding posts acceptable if they are posted by "allies".

     

    The interesting thing is that I am frequently called a hypocrite for one moment agreeing with a person and then the next, disagreeing - how DARE I suddenly agree with Canli on a post, or Libralady or Alameda?!!! lol  Perhaps that is because I respond to the POST not the person?  I am no angel, but you people sure do take the biscuit

     

     Well there is a difference between provokateurs and those who respond. Once provoked, all bets are off.  I´m reminded of the picadores and the banderilleros, but at least the matador doesn´t act surprised when he gets gored by the bull.

     

    You may not agree with my ideas, that is your right. When it becomes personal, it is quite a different matter.

    3224.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:28 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    OMG why was this NOT DELETED immediately! ......

     

    Fear of the Dead Sheep Society, I suspect!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3225.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:31 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     Well there is a difference between provokateurs and those who respond. Once provoked, all bets are off.  I´m reminded of the picadores and the banderilleros, but at least the matador doesn´t act surprised when he gets gored by the bull.

     

    You may not agree with my ideas, that is your right. When it becomes personal, it is quite a different matter.

     

     If you pardon my saying so, your posts are extremely provocative...  

    (Thank you for the extremely pointless link to "matador" !!! )



    Edited (3/19/2009) by TheAenigma

    3226.       alameda
    3499 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:34 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     If you pardon my saying so, your posts are extremely provocative...  

    (Thank you for the extremely pointless link to "matador" !!! )

     

     I thought you would find that interesting.....nice costume....hummm?

    3227.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 08:35 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     I thought you would find that interesting.....nice costume....hummm?

     

     To be honest, I had not clicked on it! lol

    Well its a lovely picture - reminds me of one of my favourite operas, Carmen

     

    (I dont like the site though - it appears to be promoting that vile bloodsport...)



    Edited (3/19/2009) by TheAenigma

    3228.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:10 pm

    World´s First Flight of Flying Car .

    The Terrafugia Transition drove down the runway and the world´s ´ first flying car ´ made its debut as it took off and flew through the skies, before landing safely at the New York State airstrip , paving the way for personal flight transport ..... suddenly in control of a two seater four wheel car , which can drive at highway speeds and be stored in your typical garage . Other flying cars have been demonstrated before, but this is the first proven model with foldable wings which allows it to seamlessly transfer from air to road . Meanwhile refueling involves no more than driving into the nearest forecourt and filling up with unleaded petrol .

    The car_plane will cost around $ 194 ,000

    http://www.computerworld.com/..=9129931&intsrc=news_ts_head

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3229.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:14 pm

    flying cars - fifth element?

    3230.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:21 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    flying cars - fifth element?

     

    more like chitty chitty bang bang<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3231.       tinababy
    1096 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    World´s First Flight of Flying Car .

    The Terrafugia Transition drove down the runway and the world´s ´ first flying car ´ made its debut as it took off and flew through the skies, before landing safely at the New York State airstrip , paving the way for personal flight transport ..... suddenly in control of a two seater four wheel car , which can drive at highway speeds and be stored in your typical garage . Other flying cars have been demonstrated before, but this is the first proven model with foldable wings which allows it to seamlessly transfer from air to road . Meanwhile refueling involves no more than driving into the nearest forecourt and filling up with unleaded petrol .

    The car_plane will cost around $ 194 ,000

    http://www.computerworld.com/..=9129931&intsrc=news_ts_head

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    " toys for boys"  comes to mind. Can´t think why??

     

    3232.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:30 pm

     

    Quoting tinababy

     

    " toys for boys"  comes to mind. Can´t think why??

     

     

     oh no... I would definately have one..... my commute is shocking.... hmmm just got to persuade da boss to build a landing stripCell phone

    3233.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:37 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

    more like chitty chitty bang bang<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     translate pls, femme know not what chitta chita bum bang

    3234.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     19 Mar 2009 Thu 11:39 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     translate pls, femme know not what chitta chita bum bang

     

     Laugh at sounds like a soho remake is on the cards ha ha



    Edited (3/19/2009) by lessluv [adding mood lighting and dodgy scripts]

    3235.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 07:32 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

      

    Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.

     

    Well apparently you weren’t really paying attention alameda or you only see what you WANT to see. 

    Within cynic’s first couple of posts he started in with his “helpful” comments.  If you want to turn a blind eye or pretend that he only lashed out in self-defense go ahead and make yourself look like a fool.  It is open for everyone to see what the facts are.   {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    3236.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 01:48 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

    Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.

     

     Oh please!  Cynic was no victim, he was big enough to express his opinion, like the rest of us.  It is strange that people who you agree with are "provoked" but people you disagree with are considered "provocateurs".  Don´t you think that most people here are provoked into posting? 

     

    In addition, generally, why do you consider that disagreements necessitate anomosity?   I may get really angry at one post by someone, but can agree with that same person on another thread!  You are so clannish Alameda, you make me laugh, there is nothing you like more than to apportion blame to people who criticise your posts - usually in the form of accusing them of forcing others to leave!  Azymuth is a great example!  I have read the posts to her and, frankly, if she was offended enough to leave because of some mild teasing, then she should not be on a discussion site.

    3237.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 01:59 pm

    Ouh I made two identical threads - how did that happen

    3238.       sheena
    308 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 02:09 pm

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Ouh I made two identical threads - how did that happen

     

    Shame on you! I think you have sneakily been drinking by birthday stash of vodka......

    3239.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 03:41 pm

    Berlin Axel Hotel For Gay Community

     

    Axel Hotels, the first hotel chain in the world aimed at the gay community, opens its latest hotel in Berlin. Situated in Schoneberg, the heart of the gay community of the city, ... equipped with king size beds, plasma TVs, iPod On Stage speakers, safes, .... an open air spa, sauna, Turkish bath, gymnasium, relaxation area and massage cubicles.

     

    Axel Hotel Berlin is the third of the chain´s hotels catering to the gay community following the Axel Hotel Barcelona and Axel Hotel Buenos Aires, which opened in 2003 and 2007 respectively.

     

      

    3240.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 03:50 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Berlin Axel Hotel For Gay Community

     

    Axel Hotels, the first hotel chain in the world aimed at the gay community, opens its latest hotel in Berlin. Situated in Schoneberg, the heart of the gay community of the city, ... equipped with king size beds, plasma TVs, iPod On Stage speakers, safes, .... an open air spa, sauna, Turkish bath, gymnasium, relaxation area and massage cubicles.

     

    Axel Hotel Berlin is the third of the chain´s hotels catering to the gay community following the Axel Hotel Barcelona and Axel Hotel Buenos Aires, which opened in 2003 and 2007 respectively.

     

      

    oooh thinking of a change?{#emotions_dlg.razz}{#emotions_dlg.lol}

     

    3241.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 04:05 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Berlin Axel Hotel For Gay Community

     

    Axel Hotels, the first hotel chain in the world aimed at the gay community, opens its latest hotel in Berlin. Situated in Schoneberg, the heart of the gay community of the city, ... equipped with king size beds, plasma TVs, iPod On Stage speakers, safes, .... an open air spa, sauna, Turkish bath, gymnasium, relaxation area and massage cubicles.

     

    Axel Hotel Berlin is the third of the chain´s hotels catering to the gay community following the Axel Hotel Barcelona and Axel Hotel Buenos Aires, which opened in 2003 and 2007 respectively.

     

      

     

     I guess I have ruined you for all other women?????? 

    3242.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 04:47 pm

    British truckers ´being attacked by knife-wielding migrants desperate to get to Britain´    

     

    Truck drivers say they are being regularly attacked by migrants who are trying desperately to get into Britain from France.

    Dozens of hauliers claim they have been assaulted by the migrants – many armed with knives and batons – who react violently when they are discovered hiding in trucks bound for the UK.

    The British drivers are now calling on ministers to put pressure on the French government to take tougher action against those who are targeting them, sometimes on a nightly basis.

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1163254/British-truckers-attacked-knife-wielding-migrants-Calais.html

     

    they must be mltm´s relatives trying to invade britain for the glory of France

     

     

    3243.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 04:51 pm

    a message for libra, its regarding her somalian friends.

    Source: ´Several´ Missing Somali-Americans Back in U.S. After Overseas Terror Mission

     

    "Some of the guys who were missing aren´t missing anymore," the source said. "Some of them got blown up and some of them came back, and some of them are still there [in Somalia]."

    For several months the FBI has been investigating at least 20 Somali-American men from the Minneapolis area who traveled to war-torn Somalia, where some of them trained and fought with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group known as al-Shabaab, according to counterterrorism officials.

    Asked to characterize how many of those men are now back on American soil, the source would only say that "several" have returned. Federal authorities believe the men went to Somalia to join al-Shabaab, which has been warring with the moderate Somali government since 2006.

    Usama bin Laden weighed in Thursday on the battle. In an audiotape posted online, the Al Qaeda leader urged Somalis to fight against the Somali government, insisting, "The war which has been taking place on your soil these past years is a war between Islam and the international crusade."

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509839,00.html

    3244.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 05:50 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

    You are so clannish Alameda, you make me laugh, there is nothing you like more than to apportion blame to people who criticise your posts - usually in the form of accusing them of forcing others to leave!  Azymuth is a great example!  I have read the posts to her and, frankly, if she was offended enough to leave because of some mild teasing, then she should not be on a discussion site.

     

     Hmmmmmmmm and didn´t she once blame you for another member leaving and then it turned out SHE was the reason the person left?  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    3245.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 06:04 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

      I guess I have ruined you for all other women?????? 

     

     Did you? What about all these women from his harem? They must feel abandoned now....

    3246.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 06:11 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Oh please!  Cynic was no victim, he was big enough to express his opinion, like the rest of us.  It is strange that people who you agree with are "provoked" but people you disagree with are considered "provocateurs".  Don´t you think that most people here are provoked into posting? 

     

    In addition, generally, why do you consider that disagreements necessitate anomosity?   I may get really angry at one post by someone, but can agree with that same person on another thread!  You are so clannish Alameda, you make me laugh, there is nothing you like more than to apportion blame to people who criticise your posts - usually in the form of accusing them of forcing others to leave!  Azymuth is a great example!  I have read the posts to her and, frankly, if she was offended enough to leave because of some mild teasing, then she should not be on a discussion site.

     

    Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here.  If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.

     

    As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.

    3247.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 07:46 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    This only goes to prove my point that objections are not about what is said, but WHO is saying it.  Both Alameda and Canli are the biggest objectors to "insults" and yet when the insults come from a different direction (maybe towards those who they object to) then they find it perfectly acceptable.

     

     

     

     Actually AE, that is not the case at all, seems you didnt get what i mean

    Ýf you went through my post here and other posts before regarding cynic´s insulting posts, you would find i havent agreed with them too.

    But im also against the idea that the bads erase the goods.

    And i believe it is his right to take the credit for that.

    His posts in the language forum are there and people still get benefit from them.

    They are useful to learners, so that was a loss to us  .

    His posts in political forum were also informative and strike some point that i wasnt paying attention to.

    So i cant just skip an eye on all this as if they are not there.

    Ýt isnt fair.

    Yes many of his posts caused  disruption and also were flammable, crude and this everyone already know and said it

    But he also has informative posts and was helpful to others in language/translation forums and that what i am adding.

    Ýts his right.

    3248.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 07:47 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here.  If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.

     

    As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.

     you should stop accusing people for ganging up. i personally dont feel being a gang member, not that i would be ashamed of it, but what you claim here is absolutely not true.

    i dont gang up with anyone.

    everyone here has a different personality and identity and feel perfectly at ease with themselves.

    but you alameda an exception of being yourself. you deny everything. you deny you are a female, you deny you are old, you deny you are a muslim etc etc. is it sort of a taqyia coded in your mind? 

     

    also stop accusing people (whom you dislike) of writing stupid or disruptive posts. look at yourself first.

    if you dont like such posts then simply dont read them. i know a few people here who say that they dont read the posts of certain people. thus they handle their membership here.

    3249.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:09 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     ............but you alameda an exception of being yourself. you deny everything. you deny you are a female, you deny you are old, you deny you are a muslim etc etc. is it sort of a taqyia coded in your mind? 

     

     

     I don´t deny or claim anything.  Rather, I prefer to keep my personal information private. My gender, age or religion are my business, not yours.

     

    Of what concern is it to you? Why are you obsessed with this information? I could say I´m anything and you really wouldn´t know if it was the truth or not.

     

    What I prefer, and I look at is how people express themselelves and what their ideas are.

     

    3250.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:14 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Actually AE, that is not the case at all, seems you didnt get what i mean

    Ýf you went through my post here and other posts before regarding cynic´s insulting posts, you would find i havent agreed with them too.

    But im also against the idea that the bads erase the goods.

    And i believe it is his right to take the credit for that.

    His posts in the language forum are there and people still get benefit from them.

    They are useful to learners, so that was a loss to us  .

    His posts in political forum were also informative and strike some point that i wasnt paying attention to.

    So i cant just skip an eye on all this as if they are not there.

    Ýt isnt fair.

    Yes many of his posts caused  disruption and also were flammable, crude and this everyone already know and said it

    But he also has informative posts and was helpful to others in language/translation forums and that what i am adding.

    Ýts his right.

     

    I agree with what you say above Canli - and apologies if you think I have got you wrong.  However, I still wonder if you would have said such things about a deleted member if they had not always agreed with your thoughts/ideas.

     

    Anyway, hope no offence was taken

     

    3251.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:15 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     I don´t deny or claim anything.  Rather, I prefer to keep my personal information private. My gender, age or religion are my business, not yours.

     

    Of what concern is it to you? Why are you obsessed with this information? I could say I´m anything and you really wouldn´t know if it was the truth or not.

     

    What I prefer, and I look at is how people express themselelves and what their ideas are.

     

     

    alameda, with my hand on my heart. there is something wrong with you mind. when i read your post i lacked words, really.

    DD has already told evrything about you. besides all this info comes from your own posts.

     

    For God´s sake im not obsessed with the information about you. if you lied about yourself then it is your problem. you behave as if you were someone mysterious and we all are very keen on learning that precious info.

    no, thank you, keep your gender and din to yourself.

     

    3252.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:17 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here.  If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.

     

    As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.

     

     Who cares what YOU prefer?  Some people like to have some fun in their lives.  If you can´t deal with it then maybe this isn´t the right place for you. 

     

    I do wonder why you bother to hang around here since you deem most of us to be lowly imbeciles who are unable to understand the high content of your posts.  {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

    Some people just don´t feel the need to shove their intelligence down others throats.  It really shines best when one doesn´t try so hard to prove it......it´s an admirable trait.   

     

    3253.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here.  If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.

     

    As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.

     

     Nobody is a member of a gang here! lol  I don´t know any people here on a personal basis and do not talk to them outside of TC (and rarely PM!).  Perhaps you just get upset when a majority of people disagree with you?  Does it feel better to say to yourself that people are a gang, rather than "they all disagree with my thoughts"?

     

    If it feels like a gang to you, it is only because some of us share the same humour and just want a little fun. Where I see humour, clearly you see "stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics" - I think you credit us with too much forward tactical premeditation!!   If it against the rules to have fun here, then I will happily stop!  I notice that you described Melek as being "one of the gang"!!  Why?  Because she also had some fun on the threads and made people laugh?  You should try it sometime if you can jump of that dangerously high pedestal that you are sitting on.

     

    With regard to Azymuth, please show me where anyone here insulted her.  I saw two posts teasing, one from me and one from thehandsom, that were mildly teasing (as was a post of hers to thehandsom).  If she found my post offensive, I would have to say "ask a silly question, get a silly answer".  Nobody can be any judge of another´s worthiness to post, but also people should not expect an open forum to be a polite cafe society either. 



    Edited (3/20/2009) by TheAenigma

    3254.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:32 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     Nobody can be any judge of another´s worthiness to post

     

     Pssttt.....Not even alameda?  {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

    3255.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:34 pm

    nobody insulted azymuth. but azymuth insulted me. go and read the posts. s/he also insulted TC.

     

    nobody insulted yilgun too. nobody insulted him as cynic insulted everyone who dared to disgree with him. nobody in TC´s history was as heavy and filthy insulter as him.

    3256.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:46 pm

    Actually Azymuth was a new user, and not used to TLC style of teasing...etc  so s/he took it personally, and no one can blame her/him for that too, but also s/he fired back just like femmoues said and asked to be deleted.

    Ýf s/he wasnt a new user then i would have agree with AE about what she said.

    3257.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:49 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    I agree with what you say above Canli - and apologies if you think I have got you wrong.  However, I still wonder if you would have said such things about a deleted member if they had not always agreed with your thoughts/ideas.

     

    Anyway, hope no offence was taken

     

     

     Well, i guess yes

    Some members here left and we didnt have same opinions but still they were very helpful and i said same

    And i remember i also have missed femme when she left  Razz

    And no, no offence taken

     

    3258.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:52 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    And i remember i also have missed femme when she left  Razz

     

    Somebody missed that Borat? What the hell!You crazy?

     

    Quoting CANLI

    And no, no offence taken

     

     

     

    3259.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 08:58 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    Actually Azymuth was a new user, and not used to TLC style of teasing...etc  so s/he took it personally, and no one can blame her/him for that too, but also s/he fired back just like femmoues said and asked to be deleted.

    Ýf s/he wasnt a new user then i would have agree with AE about what she said.

     

     what did i say? did i ask him to be deleted?

    3260.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:00 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     what did i say? did i ask him to be deleted?

     

     Where did Canli say that?!?!   Learn to read English you ignorant Borat

    3261.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:02 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

     what did i say? did i ask him to be deleted?

     

     

    Quoting femmeous

    nobody insulted azymuth. but azymuth insulted me. go and read the posts. s/he also insulted TC.

     

    Are you feeling OK tonight femmeous ?!!! lol

    You dont know what you said ?! lol

    3262.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:05 pm

    New member....guesswhoim..............anybody?

     

    cynic...is that you?



    Edited (3/20/2009) by Elisabeth

    3263.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    New member....gusswhoim..............anybody?

     

    cynic...is that you?

     

     Guesswhoim is not a new member, and...he is a well known and famous TC Veteran lol

    3264.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:10 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Guesswhoim is not a new member, and...he is a well known and famous TC Veteran lol

    I got confused!  take it easy on me, Aenigma...I am from Texas!

    3265.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:16 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    Actually Azymuth was a new user, and not used to TLC style of teasing...etc  so s/he took it personally, and no one can blame her/him for that too, but also s/he fired back just like femmoues said and asked to be deleted.

    Ýf s/he wasnt a new user then i would have agree with AE about what she said.

     

     that is not clear to me.

     

    oh, yes, true, my english is poor and i will never learn the language of saxons as well as cynic and his TC allies.

    3266.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:17 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

    I got confused!  take it easy on me, Aenigma...I am from Texas!

     

     yes, we were told by our most knowledgable member of TC who holds the key to knowledge and the links : texas is a horrible place to go.

    3267.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:25 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     

     

    alameda, with my hand on my heart. there is something wrong with you mind. when i read your post i lacked words, really.

    DD has already told evrything about you. besides all this info comes from your own posts.

     

    For God´s sake im not obsessed with the information about you. if you lied about yourself then it is your problem. you behave as if you were someone mysterious and we all are very keen on learning that precious info.

    no, thank you, keep your gender and din to yourself.

     

     

    " DD has already told evrything about you."  I have never had any private messages with DD, so she really doesn´t know anything about me other than what I posted, you or anyone can see that.  What I have done is express my ideas, in a few posts (very few) I wrote about personal experience. I have kept that to a minimum....but knock yourself out if it rocks your boat.

     

    You and others are the ones who keep bringing up speculation regarding my personal information.

    3268.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:51 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    You and others are the ones who keep bringing up speculation regarding my personal information.

     

     I hope you don´t include me with the "others".  Personally, I have no interest in your personal life whatsoever..

    3269.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 09:55 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I hope you don´t include me with the "others".  Personally, I have no interest in your personal life whatsoever..

     

     but she insists on that you and i (and others) are intersted in her and spread speculations Puking

    3270.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 10:05 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Actually AE, that is not the case at all, seems you didnt get what i mean

    Ýf you went through my post here and other posts before regarding cynic´s insulting posts, you would find i havent agreed with them too.

    But im also against the idea that the bads erase the goods.

    And i believe it is his right to take the credit for that.

    His posts in the language forum are there and people still get benefit from them.

    They are useful to learners, so that was a loss to us  .

    His posts in political forum were also informative and strike some point that i wasnt paying attention to.

    So i cant just skip an eye on all this as if they are not there.

    Ýt isnt fair.

    Yes many of his posts caused  disruption and also were flammable, crude and this everyone already know and said it

    But he also has informative posts and was helpful to others in language/translation forums and that what i am adding.

    Ýts his right.

    I did not want to talk about this subject but let me put my a few pennies:

     

    I will disagree with you what you said above apart from his contribution into language section.

    As I mentioned before, you can find a few interesting posts from him in political section (at least from my perspective) but that is all.. He had great writing skills and he put the quite common ideas (mostly nationalistic) into nicely written posts (several times).

    But apart from that he was a person who sweared publicly..He insinuated beastilaity about one of the girls.

    And I must say that it was horrible to see ´not very many´ objected to that incident..Even some clapped that post publicly!!

    Because many of you did not object enough, you gave him encouragaments.

    Because the person whom he was refering to, was not you or you disliked the person he was swearing at..Many times, I have seen him posting quite low or insinuating posts about certain people here, many of you did not even post a word of disagreement!! A quite low level of hypocrasy went on and on..

    There was nothing to provoke him most of the time.. But there were some encouragements from some people here..

    He did not have much moral levels about what to post what to say to the people he disagreed.

    He had to be stopped before but unfortunately that was not the case..

    Because of that level confusion and and because he showed that he did not have any levels at all, there was only one way of dealing with him and it was going down to his level. The level was not a very pleasant level. He would use anything he knew about the person he was arguing regardless it was a private information or not..That was very nasty.

     

    Although  he should have ben deleted long ago but now, he is gone for good..And gone is gone. 

     

     

    3271.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     20 Mar 2009 Fri 11:52 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I did not want to talk about this subject but let me put my a few pennies: 

     

     Well, actually i´d preferred if you didnt talk about it too, specially the exchange was mostly between you two and the man isnt here anymore .

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I will disagree with you what you said above apart from his contribution into language section.

    Again i dont know how would you agree or disagree with me on what i have said

    To me, his posts were informative and raised some points i wasnt paying attention to, so i dont imagine how this can be arguable ?!

    Ýts my own evaluation ! 

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    As I mentioned before, you can find a few interesting posts from him in political section (at least from my perspective) but that is all.. He had great writing skills and he put the quite common ideas (mostly nationalistic) into nicely written posts (several times).

    But apart from that he was a person who sweared publicly..He insinuated beastilaity about one of the girls.

    And I must say that it was horrible to see ´not very many´ objected to that incident..Even some clapped that post publicly!!

    Because many of you did not object enough, you gave him encouragaments.

    Because the person whom he was refering to, was not you or you disliked the person he was swearing at..Many times, I have seen him posting quite low or insinuating posts about certain people here, many of you did not even post a word of disagreement!! A quite low level of hypocrasy went on and on..

    There was nothing to provoke him most of the time.. But there were some encouragements from some people here..

    He did not have much moral levels about what to post what to say to the people he disagreed.

    He had to be stopped before but unfortunately that was not the case..

    Because of that level confusion and and because he showed that he did not have any levels at all, there was only one way of dealing with him and it was going down to his level. The level was not a very pleasant level. He would use anything he knew about the person he was arguing regardless it was a private information or not..That was very nasty.

    As i said, the man isnt here to reply, and as im not his lawyer or something so i cant talk on his behalf.

    But i must say, it isnt nice that you criticize him like this now and he is gone and cant reply .

    So again , yes i wished if you´d stayed as you were.

     ´´I did not want to talk about this subject ´´



    Edited (3/20/2009) by CANLI

    3272.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 12:36 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

    As i said, the man isnt here to reply, and as im not his lawyer or something so i cant talk on his behalf.

    But i must say, it isnt nice that you criticize him like this now and he is gone and cant reply .

    So again , yes i wished if you´d stayed as you were.

     ´´I did not want to talk about this subject ´´

     

    well I did not want to talk and i have still no intention to talk about it..

     

    3273.       bydand
    755 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 12:59 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    well I did not want to talk and i have still no intention to talk about it..

     

     

     But you did just that all the same.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3274.       Roswitha
    4132 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 05:01 am

     
    Dead Palestinian babies and bombed mosques - IDF fashion 2009


    The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing. Elsewhere on the premises, the sketches are turned into plates used for imprinting the ordered items, mainly T-shirts and baseball caps, but also hoodies, fleece jackets and pants. A young Arab man from Jaffa supervises the workers who imprint the words and pictures, and afterward hands over the finished product.

    Dead babies, mothers weeping on their children´s graves, a gun aimed at a child and bombed-out mosques - these are a few examples of the images Israel Defense Forces soldiers design these days to print on shirts they order to mark the end of training, or of field duty. The slogans accompanying the drawings are not exactly anemic either: A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him. A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills." A "graduation" shirt for those who have completed another snipers course depicts a Palestinian baby, who grows into a combative boy and then an armed adult, with the inscription, "No matter how it begins, we´ll put an end to it."

    There are also plenty of shirts with blatant sexual messages. For example, the Lavi battalion produced a shirt featuring a drawing of a soldier next to a young woman with bruises, and the slogan, "Bet you got raped!" A few of the images underscore actions whose existence the army officially denies - such as "confirming the kill" (shooting a bullet into an enemy victim´s head from close range, to ensure he is dead), or harming religious sites, or female or child non-combatants.

    A

    haaretz.com today

    3275.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 08:03 am

    Roswitha, why do you post exactly the same article twice, in different threads?

    3276.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 08:25 am

      

    Quoting CANLI

     

    As i said, the man isnt here to reply, and as im not his lawyer or something so i cant talk on his behalf.

    But i must say, it isnt nice that you criticize him like this now and he is gone and cant reply .

    So again , yes i wished if you´d stayed as you were.

    ´´I did not want to talk about this subject ´´

     

     Canli, the man isn´t here for a reason!  Handsom´s criticism of cynic isn´t something he is only doing now that the man is gone and cynic certainly doesn´t need to be here to "defend" himself....everyone saw what he was like and what got him deleted.   I wonder how many of this guys posts you actually read.  {#emotions_dlg.unsure}



    Edited (3/21/2009) by girleegirl [Formatting is funky tonight!!!]

    3277.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 11:21 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

      

     

     Canli, the man isn´t here for a reason!  Handsom´s criticism of cynic isn´t something he is only doing now that the man is gone and cynic certainly doesn´t need to be here to "defend" himself....everyone saw what he was like and what got him deleted.   I wonder how many of this guys posts you actually read.  {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

     bosver, gg, she doesnt understand basic facts. canli speaks as if cynic was dead and we all killed him.

    whats wrong with criticising the person who is no longer here? did he join the deads?

    i grew up hearing that was not good to say bad about a person who passed away. and i question this tradition.

    canli and her friends almost worshipped that young man. the credits were given even from the opposite side.

    i personally dont judge people by their knowledge, career or education, i judge them by their mentality, personality. what´s good of the knowledge if you are still an idiot, rude and very simplistic in thinking, judging and expressing?

     

    so, GG let it go. you will never convince these people. they are made of a different clay.

    3278.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 01:08 pm

    Cynic is alive and well . He is using his enforced sabbatical to travel the world tand carry out research about donkeys. 

     

    His remit?  To prove that a donkey´s behaviour is affected by the environment in which it lives.

     

    Even away from TLC, he is determined to discredit theH.

     



    Edited (3/21/2009) by peacetrain [forgot to post photo]

    3279.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 01:11 pm

     and you are his postwoman?

    Quoting peacetrain

    Cynic is alive and well . He is using his enforced sabbatical to travel the world tand carry out research about donkeys. 

     

    His remit?  To prove that a donkey´s behaviour is affected by the environment in which it lives.

     

    Even away from TLC, he is determined to discredit theH.

     

     

     

    3280.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 01:15 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    " DD has already told evrything about you."  I have never had any private messages with DD, so she really doesn´t know anything about me other than what I posted, you or anyone can see that.  What I have done is express my ideas, in a few posts (very few) I wrote about personal experience. I have kept that to a minimum....but knock yourself out if it rocks your boat.

     

    You and others are the ones who keep bringing up speculation regarding my personal information.

    Alameda, I posted what I found in your posts only because you stated that you´re a mysterious person whose gender, background etc has not been revealed. I wanted to show you that it wasn´t true. For all it matters, none of us is really interested in your personal life, were it otherwise we´d PM you asking about the details.

     

    3281.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 01:15 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

     and you are his postwoman?

     

     

     Absolutely not, it was my attempt at mocking Cynic . . . I obviously failed miserably.

     



    Edited (3/21/2009) by peacetrain

    3282.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 06:32 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     Absolutely not, it was my attempt at mocking Cynic . . . I obviously failed miserably.

     

     

     ...I thought it was quite amusing



    Edited (3/21/2009) by lady in red

    3283.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     21 Mar 2009 Sat 06:40 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     ...I thought it was quite amusing

     

     you serious?

     

    then it must be again me failing to understand english jokes

    3284.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 12:28 am

    Canada bars ´infandous´ Galloway

     

    The MP for Bethnal Green and Bow had been due to speak at a number of events in the country but his anti-war stance was drawn to the attention of the government by a Jewish group.

     

    A Canadian government spokesman said that the decision would not be overturned for a man regarded as an "infandous street-corner Cromwell".

     

    "We´re going to uphold the law, [and] not give special treatment to this infandous street-corner Cromwell who actually brags about giving ´financial support´ to Hamas, a terrorist organisation banned in Canada," said Velshi.

    ..

    Galloway said ..

     

    "Canada was built by Scotsmen, it is like being turned away from the family home."  lol lol 

    ..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/mar/21/george-galloway-canada

    3285.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 11:45 am

    this lady who owns the site called www. jihadunspun.com was kidnapped by peaceful taliban.

    i feel sorry for her, not she is only kidnapped but also lost in mind like many who converted to this religion as a result of 9/11.

     

     

     

    Canadian abducted in Pakistan pleads for life in video

    Updated Fri. Mar. 20 2009 11:26 AM ET

    CTV.ca News Staff

    A Canadian woman being held hostage in Pakistan says time is running out and her militant captors will behead her soon if a ransom isn´t paid.

    Vancouver´s Beverly Giesbrecht, who converted to Islam and is now known as Khadija Abdul Qahaar, has been held since November.

    The independent journalist was kidnapped at gunpoint while doing freelance work for the Al Jazeera Arab network, in a tribally ruled region of northern Pakistan.

    "We have very short time now. I am going to be killed at any time as you can see the dagger," she says in the video, referring to a knife hung on the wall behind her.

    Giesbrecht´s captors have demanded a ransom and the release of Taliban prisoners, in exchange for her return.

    According to some reports, the Taliban will free her for US$375,000 in ransom.

    The 52-year-old pleads for her life in the video, saying her fate will be the same as Piotr Stanczak, a Polish engineer who was executed last month.

    "I am going to be beheaded just like the Polish engineer, probably by the end of the month. The deadline is by the end of March, and that´s basically, I don´t know, 18 days or 16 days," she says, closing her eyes.

    "I´m not quite sure how long that is but the time is very short and my life is going to end."

    The short video was sent to The Globe and Mail.

    In it, Giesbrecht is wearing a head scarf and sitting on a wooden chair. She explains she is being held by the Taliban somewhere near the border of Afghanistan, but isn´t sure which of the two countries she is being held in.

    Security expert Eric Margolis said there have been other similar cases in recent months, including that of Stanczak, and Giesbrecht isn´t exaggerating when she says her life is in danger.

    "It´s being done for one of two reasons," he told CTV´s Canada AM.

    "First there are criminal gangs everywhere and they may have done this for money. It has also been reported there have been ransom demands. Also it´s been said they have offered to trade her for hundreds of Taliban prisoners who are being held by the Afghan government."

    Canada´s Foreign Affairs Department has declined to comment on Giesbrecht´s plight, but Margolis said officials are likely working behind the scenes with the Pakistan government.

    He said it is "totally out of character" for tribes in the region to kidnap a woman, since their code of honour forbids the mistreatment or murder of women.

    Giesbrecht converted to Islam after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    She runs a website called Jihad Unspun, which claims to provide information that is "devoid of the constraints of mainstream media."

    <[script]>

    3286.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 11:59 am

    Galloway is perhaps best known for his vigorous campaign to overturn economic sanctions against Iraq in the 1990s and early 2000s and to avert the 2003 invasion of that country. He made visits there in 1994 and 2002. As part of a speech in his 1994 visit in which Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was in attendance, he said "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability",[1] although Galloway has always stated that he was addressing the Iraqi people,[2] and that he is not an admirer of Saddam.

     

    3287.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 12:53 pm

     "Religion" or "ridiculous"?

     Religulous comes to the UK

    A Borat-style documentary lampooning the world´s religions through interviews with their leaders is to open in Britain next week  and, if the US experience is anything to go, it is certain to spark controversy.

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..age-1651318.html

    trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humznMCjtz0

    3288.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 01:02 pm

    And Jade Goody dies!!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7925719.stm

     

    I dont know what to think really..

    But, at least, the entire event seems  to have increased cancer awareness in the UK:

     

    On the day the reality TV star was diagnosed in August 2008, Cancer Research UK witnessed 10 times the usual number of hits to its website...

    Some cervical screening teams across the UK also reported a rise in the number of women attending their appointments for smear tests.

     

    Historically, the number of young women attending screening has been falling all across the UK.

    http://www.independent.co.uk..-about-disease-1651430.html

     



    Edited (3/22/2009) by thehandsom
    Edited (3/22/2009) by thehandsom

    3289.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 02:48 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     "Religion" or "ridiculous"?

     Religulous comes to the UK

     

    A Borat-style documentary lampooning the world´s religions through interviews with their leaders is to open in Britain next week  and, if the US experience is anything to go, it is certain to spark controversy.

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..age-1651318.html

    trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humznMCjtz0

    I´ve seen it and had a good laugh. Not insulting but light-hearted and pleasant to watch

     

    3290.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 08:00 pm

    isnt this sooooooooo stupid?

     

    Make sure your wife is not your sister!
    Nadeen Ibrahim I Arab News
     

    MADINAH: Islamic law prohibits marriage with one’s wet nurse (for men), her husband (for women), her biological children and any nonbiological children she breast-fed. All such individuals are described as the person’s “mahram.”

    Since there is no official system of documenting the names and identities of children who have been breast-fed by a woman, some young men and women sometimes end up accidentally marrying someone suckled by their own wet nurse. This can cause difficulties when couples find out later in life. If they have children, then things can be an even bigger problem.

    “We were married for seven years before we discovered we were brothers and sisters. My mother-in-law had breast-fed me,” said Hayat, a schoolteacher from Madinah. “We were lucky as we had no children,” she said, adding that she and her ex-husband only learned that she had been nursed by his mother when an old family friend visited her home.

    “She was astonished to find we were married. She reminded my mother that when she had had puerperal fever after giving birth to me, my former mother-in-law breast-fed me and that my marriage to her son was thus forbidden,” she said.

    Hayat and her husband divorced and remarried, subsequently becoming parents with their new spouses. Hayat said she does not regret separating, as she did not really love her ex-husband in the way one loves their spouse.

    The story of Umm Abdul Aziz is more tragic. She was married for 30 years and mothered nine children before discovering her husband was her foster brother. “It happened out of the blue. An elderly man came to my husband one day and told him that we had been suckled by the same woman. He even knew people who knew of this and could testify as witnesses. We were greatly shocked and deeply saddened,” she said.

    Umm Abdul Aziz said that since her children were old and some of them had traveled abroad to study, she and her husband felt it was needless to ruin their lives and decided to keep the matter a secret and continue living together as brother and sister and not as partners.

     

    http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=120583&d=22&m=3&y=2009

    3291.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 08:15 pm

    Having had the same wet-nurse makes you brother and sister even your biological parents are different? Haven´t they heard of DNA? You crazy?

    3292.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 08:26 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Having had the same wet-nurse makes you brother and sister even your biological parents are different? Haven´t they heard of DNA? You crazy?

     

     they sure have heard, but its the religious thing. and nothing cant go against it.

    3293.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Mar 2009 Sun 08:30 pm

    http://www.irshadmanji.com/home

     

    Loved it!

    3294.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 01:45 pm

    Extreme Sheep LED Art from Welsh farmers

    More than a million internet users have watched the viral video in the four days since it was released online.

    The 200 second ad also sees the creatures manoeuvred into position to create a giant sheep and even has them creating the Mona Lisa with the various coloured LEDs on their back.

    Sheep in LED coats playing a game of pong..

    The news:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/..Welsh-sheep-video-is-internet-sensation.html

    This is the video:

    http://www.viralvideochart.com/youtube/extreme_sheep_led_art?id=D2FX9rviEhw

    youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw



    Edited (3/23/2009) by thehandsom

    3295.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 01:59 pm

     

     

     Can´t see it!!  Head bang   - am I not special enough??

    3296.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 02:14 pm

    As many requests for business translations as for love messages!   Is TC changing course?? 

    3297.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 02:16 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    As many requests for business translations as for love messages!   Is TC changing course?? 

     

     Probably just an increase in executive dudus ....

    3298.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 02:31 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Probably just an increase in executive dudus ....

     

     
     Caveman ha ha I´ll stick to the caveman!!




    3299.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 02:38 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     
     Caveman ha ha I´ll stick to the caveman!!




     

     Bit of a smiley overload there les! 

    3300.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 02:45 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     Bit of a smiley overload there les! 

     

     new toy Tongue Out 





    3301.       cedars
    235 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 08:09 pm

    IDF fashion 2009 -

     

    Dead Palestinian babies and bombed mosques -

     

    The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing.

    ......

    A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him

    ....

     A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."

    .....

     

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072466.html#resp



    Edited (3/23/2009) by cedars

    3302.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 08:32 pm

     

    Quoting cedars

    IDF fashion 2009 -

     

    Dead Palestinian babies and bombed mosques -

     

    The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing.

    ......

    A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him

    ....

     A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."

    .....

     

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072466.html#resp

     

     Another fine example of how people can be so horrible to eachother.  I would hope the people would boycott stores that sell these items. 

    3303.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     23 Mar 2009 Mon 08:36 pm

     

    Quoting cedars

    IDF fashion 2009 -

     

    Dead Palestinian babies and bombed mosques -

     

    The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing.

    ......

    A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him

    ....

     A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."

    .....

     

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072466.html#resp

     

     Sick, horrible, shameful...

    3304.       libralady
    5152 posts
     24 Mar 2009 Tue 05:49 pm

    Is there ever a wrong time to pray?  Seems like it, and the Tunisian Pilot has been sentenced to 10 years by an Italian court for praying rather than turning his attention to a pending disaster, where 16 people died when the plane he was piloting crashed.

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090324/tod-oukoe-uk-italy-crash-d987f7f.html

    3305.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     24 Mar 2009 Tue 06:23 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Is there ever a wrong time to pray?  Seems like it, and the Tunisian Pilot has been sentenced to 10 years by an Italian court for praying rather than turning his attention to a pending disaster, where 16 people died when the plane he was piloting crashed.

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090324/tod-oukoe-uk-italy-crash-d987f7f.html

     

     If someone in such a responsible job rather prays than do what he is paid for, I think he has chosen the wrong job. To me this verdict is very deserved.

    3306.       libralady
    5152 posts
     24 Mar 2009 Tue 06:37 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     If someone in such a responsible job rather prays than do what he is paid for, I think he has chosen the wrong job. To me this verdict is very deserved.

     

     I think he got off pretty light actually..........

    3307.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     24 Mar 2009 Tue 07:18 pm

    Welcome back marion

    Unfortunately your return will be short lived as I notice you DARED to write the word "clown" in the "Word Game" .....

     

    Mods are likely to delete YOU and your post



    Edited (3/24/2009) by TheAenigma [Dear mods, please note that I used the offensive word "clown" as a quotation, and therefore I hope you will not delete me (on THIS occasion) :D]

    3308.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     24 Mar 2009 Tue 09:11 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Welcome back marion

    Unfortunately your return will be short lived as I notice you DARED to write the word "clown" in the "Word Game" .....

     

    Mods are likely to delete YOU and your post

     

     her nick is not femme, so now worry.

    3309.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     24 Mar 2009 Tue 09:30 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Welcome back marion

    Unfortunately your return will be short lived as I notice you DARED to write the word "clown" in the "Word Game" .....

     

    Mods are likely to delete YOU and your post

     

     In view of your disclaimer below:

     

    Edited (1:19 pm) by TheAenigma [Dear mods, please note that I used the offensive word "clown" as a quotation, and therefore I hope you will not delete )

    I think you´re safe this time

    3310.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Mar 2009 Wed 01:24 pm

    China blocks YouTube...

     

    China´s move to block YouTube has been criticised by a leading advocacy group that promotes constitutional liberties in the digital age. 

     

    The Centre for Democracy and Technology told the BBC: "China´s actions fail to live up to international norms." The video sharing site has been off limits in China since Monday.

     

    "China´s apparent blocking of YouTube is at odds with the rule of law and the right to freedom of expression," said CDT president Leslie Harris.

    "Anytime a country limits or takes down content online , it must be forthright and specific about its actions and do so only in narrowly defined circumstances consistent with international human rights and the rule of law," stated Ms Harris.

    Google, which owns YouTube, told the BBC that it had no idea why the Chinese government had taken this action.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7962718.stm

    3311.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 05:00 pm

    DO NOT make death-bed confessions.... lol

     

    ´Deathbed confession´ man charged

     A US man who thought he was dying and confessed to having killed a neighbour in 1977 has been charged with murder after making a recovery, US media say.

    James Brewer could now face the death penalty over the unsolved killing in Tennessee 32 years ago, reports say.

    Convinced he was dying after a stroke, Mr Brewer reportedly admitted to police he shot dead 20-year-old Jimmy Carroll.

    The 58-year-old, who had fled Tennessee after the killing, was arrested after his condition improved, reports say.

    "He wanted to cleanse his soul, because he thought he was going to the great beyond," said police detective Tony Grasso, who interviewed Mr Brewer in an Oklahoma hospital, The Oklahoman website reported.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7959155.stm

     

     

    3312.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 05:04 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    DO NOT make death-bed confessions.... lol

     

    ´Deathbed confession´ man charged

     A US man who thought he was dying and confessed to having killed a neighbour in 1977 has been charged with murder after making a recovery, US media say.

    James Brewer could now face the death penalty over the unsolved killing in Tennessee 32 years ago, reports say.

    Convinced he was dying after a stroke, Mr Brewer reportedly admitted to police he shot dead 20-year-old Jimmy Carroll.

    The 58-year-old, who had fled Tennessee after the killing, was arrested after his condition improved, reports say.

    "He wanted to cleanse his soul, because he thought he was going to the great beyond," said police detective Tony Grasso, who interviewed Mr Brewer in an Oklahoma hospital, The Oklahoman website reported.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7959155.stm

     

     

     Well, at least his conscience is clear......I am sure he feels MUCH BETTER....<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3313.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 05:33 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     Well, at least his conscience is clear......I am sure he feels MUCH BETTER....<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

      (8 posts to go ... )

    3314.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 09:19 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCjyWp3rEk

     

    This is an amazing story. 

    3315.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 09:23 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCjyWp3rEk

     

    This is an amazing story. 

     

     I posted the longer version one a while ago...it makes me cry every time

    3316.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 09:41 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I posted the longer version one a while ago...it makes me cry every time

     

     I knew I had seen it before but could not remember!  I tried to find the one with the Aerosmith track, I don´t wanna a miss a thing - now that does reduce me to tears Cry

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_0UXRY_rY

     

    3317.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Mar 2009 Thu 09:43 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     I knew I had seen it before but could not remember!  I tried to find the one with the Aerosmith track, I don´t wanna a miss a thing - now that does reduce me to tears Cry

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_0UXRY_rY

     

     

    Got some tissues ready?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVNTdWbVBgc

     

     

    3318.       adana
    416 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 12:37 am

    Tomek Baginski-Fallen art..all totalitary systems do not  differ..horrible

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7HMz1WKkso  

    weirdddddddddddddddddd                

     

    3319.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 09:29 am

    More than 19,000 seals culled in Canada


    Sealers taking part in Canada´s controversial yearly hunt have slaughtered some 19,411 seals so far this year, reaching their full kill-quota, fisheries officials said Thursday.

    "It´s been calm and orderly," said Phil Jenkins, a spokesman for Canada´s fisheries and oceans department, describing the first leg of the annual commercial cull, which ended Wednesday.

    Some 350 Canadian sealers in 20 vessels and on the shores of the Magdalen Islands have taken part in the annual seal kill.

    Weather permitting, a small hunt of 1,500 animals around Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, will take place on Friday, Jenkins said.

    Otherwise, the commercial hunt would resume next month off the west coast of Canada´s island Newfoundland province and near Quebec´s lower northshore, targeting some 63,000 seals.

    Thereafter, the main hunt off the northeast coast of Newfoundland will kick off, said Jenkins. Some 188,600 seals are expected to be slaughtered during this phase.

    Canada is home to the world´s largest annual commercial seal hunt. Harp seals also are hunted commercially off the coasts of Greenland, Norway, the United States, Namibia, Britain, Finland and Sweden.

    The seals are hunted mainly for their pelts, but also for meat and fat, which is used in beauty products.

    The Canadian hunt has been fiercely criticized by animal rights groups, who say it is cruel.

    The Canadian government countered that the 350-year-old hunt is crucial for some 6,000 North Atlantic fisherman who rely on the seal hunt for up to 35 percent of their total annual income.

    In April, the European parliament is to vote on a proposed prohibition on seal products that would ban products derived from seals from being imported, exported or even transported across the 27-member bloc.

    The measure still has to be approved by EU governments before it can be implemented.

    Ottawa has said it would fight any curbs on the internatiO kurtuldu ama vahþet sürüyoronal trade of seal products.

    3320.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 10:53 am

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    More than 19,000 seals culled in Canada


    Sealers taking part in Canada´s controversial yearly hunt have slaughtered some 19,411 seals so far this year, reaching their full kill-quota, fisheries officials said Thursday.

    "It´s been calm and orderly," said Phil Jenkins, a spokesman for Canada´s fisheries and oceans department, describing the first leg of the annual commercial cull, which ended Wednesday.

    Some 350 Canadian sealers in 20 vessels and on the shores of the Magdalen Islands have taken part in the annual seal kill.

    Weather permitting, a small hunt of 1,500 animals around Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, will take place on Friday, Jenkins said.

    Otherwise, the commercial hunt would resume next month off the west coast of Canada´s island Newfoundland province and near Quebec´s lower northshore, targeting some 63,000 seals.

    Thereafter, the main hunt off the northeast coast of Newfoundland will kick off, said Jenkins. Some 188,600 seals are expected to be slaughtered during this phase.

    Canada is home to the world´s largest annual commercial seal hunt. Harp seals also are hunted commercially off the coasts of Greenland, Norway, the United States, Namibia, Britain, Finland and Sweden.

    The seals are hunted mainly for their pelts, but also for meat and fat, which is used in beauty products.

    The Canadian hunt has been fiercely criticized by animal rights groups, who say it is cruel.

    The Canadian government countered that the 350-year-old hunt is crucial for some 6,000 North Atlantic fisherman who rely on the seal hunt for up to 35 percent of their total annual income.

    In April, the European parliament is to vote on a proposed prohibition on seal products that would ban products derived from seals from being imported, exported or even transported across the 27-member bloc.

    The measure still has to be approved by EU governments before it can be implemented.

    Ottawa has said it would fight any curbs on the international trade of seal products.

     

     

    This is a subject very dear to my heart and so I can´t actually reply in a calm manner, except to say that is it vile and disgusting. I have seen the way they slaughter seals, clubbing them - not always completely killing, leaving them in extreme pain - in order to protect and unharm the pelts.  The sooner this disgusting trade is stopped the better....

     

    3321.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 02:27 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    This is a subject very dear to my heart and so I can´t actually reply in a calm manner, except to say that is it vile and disgusting. I have seen the way they slaughter seals, clubbing them - not always completely killing, leaving them in extreme pain - in order to protect and unharm the pelts.  The sooner this disgusting trade is stopped the better....

     

     

    +1!

    3322.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:34 pm

    The Ideal Sex: 7 to 13 Minutes!

    Even 3 to 7 minutes is adequate

     

     ... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"  

     

     comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."

     

    T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long". 

    ...

    "There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Ideal-Sex-7-to-13-Minutes-80514.shtml

     

    Why did not anybody tell this to me ? I have wasted gigantic amount time all those years

     

     

     

    3323.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:51 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    The Ideal Sex: 7 to 13 Minutes!

    Even 3 to 7 minutes is adequate

     

     ... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"  

     

     comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."

     

    T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long". 

    ...

    "There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Ideal-Sex-7-to-13-Minutes-80514.shtml

     

    Why did not anybody tell this to me ? I have wasted gigantic amount time all those years

     

     

     Laugh at

    3324.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:55 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     


    Even 3 to 7 minutes is adequate

     

    Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all.

     

     

     

    good news for theH!

    I`m wondering how you came across this article. were you googling your shortcomings?Satisfied nod

    3325.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:15 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

    good news for theH!

    I`m wondering how you came across this article. were you googling your shortcomings?Satisfied nod

     

     Nice comment for someone called ´Just TWO minutes´..... lol lol

    3326.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:17 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Nice comment for someone called ´Just TWO minutes´..... lol lol

     

    I don`t have to prove you anything TrudyRazz, or do I?Big smile

    3327.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:22 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     

     

    I don`t have to prove you anything TrudyRazz, or do I?Big smile

     

     Oh no, please not. I´ve been ill recently.

    3328.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:23 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Oh no, please not. I´ve been ill recently.

     

    Scared

    3329.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:49 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

    This is a subject very dear to my heart and so I can´t actually reply in a calm manner, except to say that is it vile and disgusting. I have seen the way they slaughter seals, clubbing them - not always completely killing, leaving them in extreme pain - in order to protect and unharm the pelts.  The sooner this disgusting trade is stopped the better....

     

     

    +++  I agree...there are organizations that petiiton and work against this:

     

    Humane Society International

    Stop the Seal hunt

    Harpseals.org is a 501(c)(3) Non-Profit Charity Working to End the Slaughter of Harp Seals

    Stop the Seal Hunt

     

    I´m also concerned about this....

     

    Palin Administration Calls in the Helicopters for Sweeping Wolf Massacre
    Mission
     

     

    "During the recent spring Board of Game meeting, the board also approved a proposal to allow to the use of gas bombs to kill wolves and wolf pups in their dens."

     

     

     

    3330.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 08:07 pm

    Italian ´Fritzl´ and son arrested

    Italian policeman and car (file pic)
    Police have not revealed many details about the case

    Police have arrested a man and his son on suspicion of raping their daughters in the northern Italian city of Turin.

    The son was allegedly encouraged to imitate his father, who reportedly kept his daughter captive in a dark room for 25 years, sexually abusing her.

    Italian media say the first victim, given the pseudonym "Laura", is now 34 and is having psychological treatment.

    Laura alerted the police, who now believe that the 63-year-old man´s son also raped his own four daughters.

    Laura´s abuse is believed to have started when she was nine years old.

    Italian media say the case echoes that of Josef Fritzl, the Austrian man jailed for life on 19 March for having kept his daughter as a sex slave in a cellar for 24 years and fathered her seven children.

    Italian police announced the arrest of the 63-year-old man, an itinerant trader, and his 40-year-old son on Friday.

    3331.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 08:10 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    The Ideal Sex: 7 to 13 Minutes!

    Even 3 to 7 minutes is adequate

     

     ... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"  

     

     comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."

     

    T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long". 

    ...

    "There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Ideal-Sex-7-to-13-Minutes-80514.shtml

     

    Why did not anybody tell this to me ? I have wasted gigantic amount time all those years

     

     

     

     

     THIS IS A HORRIBLE LIE!! I would bet money that this is a study done by men! 



    Edited (3/27/2009) by Elisabeth

    3332.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 09:44 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     THIS IS A HORRIBLE LIE!! I would bet money that this is a study done by men! 

     

    +1

    3333.       libralady
    5152 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 10:01 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    The Ideal Sex: 7 to 13 Minutes!

    Even 3 to 7 minutes is adequate

     

     ... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"  

     

     comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."

     

    T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long". 

    ...

    "There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Ideal-Sex-7-to-13-Minutes-80514.shtml

     

    Why did not anybody tell this to me ? I have wasted gigantic amount time all those years

     

     

     

     

     You have been saved!!!! This is research carried out on Americans and Canadians.............  Unsure

    3334.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 10:06 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

      You have been saved!!!! This is research carried out on Americans and Canadians.............  Unsure

     

     Done by men I assume? I wonder what the results would be if done by women!

    3335.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Mar 2009 Fri 11:38 pm

    GERMANY´S MYSTERY COW DISEASE

     

    Mysterious illness is causing calves to bleed to death

     

    A mysterious illness is causing calves to bleed to death on German farms.

    Veterinarians are stumped over what is causing the deaths:

    vaccines, genetically modified feed or perhaps even the first mother´s milk?

    3336.       Kiara
    145 posts
     28 Mar 2009 Sat 05:36 pm

    Quote:

    GERMANY´S MYSTERY COW DISEASE

     

    Mysterious illness is causing calves to bleed to death

     

    A mysterious illness is causing calves to bleed to death on German farms.

    Veterinarians are stumped over what is causing the deaths:

    vaccines, genetically modified feed or perhaps even the first mother´s milk?

    Guess we just all need to give up eating beef....or the stupid people who feed them need to realize cows were not meant to eat anything but hay and grains!!

    3337.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Mar 2009 Sat 07:14 pm

    Protesters march in London

    And some of the slogans they use:

    From Bankers to Wankers

    Bankers = Wankers

    Banker rhym with wanker

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7968721.stm

    3338.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Mar 2009 Sun 09:48 am

    Professor Orhan Kuruüzüm, an academic in the management and economics faculty, was accused of “whistling in the corridor while holding a tea glass” and “continuing to whistle until he entered his room” earlier this month. The deputy dean of the faculty, Professor Þafak Aksoy, filed the complaint. A professor from the agriculture faculty assessed the complaint and suggested a “warning” as a punishment for Kuruüzüm’s conduct.

    The dean of the faculty of management and economics, Professor Ýsrafil Kurtcephe, argued the punishment was too light for the act, increasing to a fine of 100 Turkish liras.

    Kuruüzüm’s lawyer Mustafa Necati Þahiner said his client faced persecution by the faculty, arguing that the faculty management’s aim was to create the environment where they could fire him. The fine is the fourth such punishment the 15-year academic has faced since Professor Ýsrafil Kurtcephe took over as the dean of the faculty in November. The first inquiry focused on claims that Kuruüzüm had called Kurtcephe “worthless” and “appointed from the top.”

     

    http://pervegalit.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/you-thought-your-dean-was-mean/

     

    I wonder how many will get fined if this would be common practice.... lol

    3339.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     29 Mar 2009 Sun 11:22 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Professor Orhan Kuruüzüm, an academic in the management and economics faculty, was accused of “whistling in the corridor while holding a tea glass” and “continuing to whistle until he entered his room” earlier this month.

     

     

    such a Turkish crime!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3340.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Mar 2009 Sun 12:26 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

     such a Turkish crime!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

     Isn´t it horrible? lol lol BTW Are (most) Turkish people superstitious about whistling inside like sailors are?

    3341.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     29 Mar 2009 Sun 11:26 pm

    Our first hermaphrodite member??  Unsure



    Edited (3/29/2009) by lady in red [typo!]

    3342.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     29 Mar 2009 Sun 11:28 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Our first hemaphrodite member??  Unsure

     

    Oh.. What the hell!

    3343.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 12:43 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Our first hermaphrodite member??  Unsure

     

     Where, where!!??!!??!!?? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    3344.       cybernetics
    753 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 02:02 pm

    i think , its very easy to make a punk song

     

    here

    3345.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 06:11 pm

    Is it just me or....can anyone see the number of posts next to Kaya08´s name on the top of her posts?  I am just seeing "posts".

     

    Also, when you check her profile, you are unable to see any previous posts



    Edited (3/30/2009) by TheAenigma

    3346.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 06:33 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Is it just me or....can anyone see the number of posts next to Kaya08´s name on the top of her posts?  I am just seeing "posts".

     

    Also, when you check her profile, you are unable to see any previous posts

     

     Her? Or him? I´ve seen two different one, Mrs. Marple..... lol

    3347.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 11:42 pm

    A wedding dress decorated with peacock feathers

     Nanjing, capital of east China´s Jiangsu Province, The gorgeous wedding dress decorated with 2,009 pieces of peacock feathers took eight handicraftsmen two months to finish.

     

    peacock_dress.jpg

    1.5 million $

    http://www.luxurylaunches.com/fashion/...ail_feathers.php

    3348.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 11:45 pm

    Shopping sprees linked to periods


    Women may be able to blame impulse buys and extravagant shopping on their time of the month, research suggests.

    In the 10 days before their periods began women were more likely to go on a spending spree, a study found....

    The spending behaviour tends to be a reaction to intense emotions  

    ..

    Almost two-thirds of the 153 women studied who were in the later stages of their menstrual cycle - known as the luteal phase - admitted they had bought something on an impulse and more than half said they had overspent by more than £25.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7971578.stm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/..s-linked-to-periods.html

    Scared

    3349.       libralady
    5152 posts
     30 Mar 2009 Mon 11:54 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Shopping sprees linked to periods


    Women may be able to blame impulse buys and extravagant shopping on their time of the month, research suggests.

    In the 10 days before their periods began women were more likely to go on a spending spree, a study found....

    The spending behaviour tends to be a reaction to intense emotions  

    ..

    Almost two-thirds of the 153 women studied who were in the later stages of their menstrual cycle - known as the luteal phase - admitted they had bought something on an impulse and more than half said they had overspent by more than £25.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7971578.stm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/..s-linked-to-periods.html

    Scared

     

     What a load of rubbish and what 153 women surveyed??? Wow must be true then!!!! Laugh at 

    3350.       libralady
    5152 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:38 am

    Just watching the news on TV and an olympic pole volter is making a protest about budget cuts for athletes by running through Paris naked with his pole (now now!!!)  Roll eyes

    3351.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 04:39 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Just watching the news on TV and an olympic pole volter is making a protest about budget cuts for athletes by running through Paris naked with his pole (now now!!!)  Roll eyes

     

     Paris, anyone?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3352.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 07:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Paris, anyone?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     If you want to: it´s only 3,5 hours by train from here and afterwards you can recover from all this (...) with a home cooked meal at my place.... lol lol

    3353.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 07:36 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     If you want to: it´s only 3,5 hours by train from here and afterwards you can recover from all this (...) with a home cooked meal at my place.... lol lol

     

    Is this invitation for Lis only or anybody coming to Paris? Angel

    3354.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 07:38 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Is this invitation for Lis only or anybody coming to Paris? Angel

     

     Are you saying you like to try my cooking skills? Ohhhh Handsom....... <fainting> lol lol

    3355.       TheJanissary
    384 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:08 pm

    Lady in Black is checking my posts

    I hope she will be lightened soon.

    3356.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:09 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Are you saying you like to try my cooking skills? Ohhhh Handsom....... <fainting> lol lol

     

    Of course, I would like to try  Trudy.. I mean your skills..  

    3357.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:11 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Of course, I would like to try  Trudy.. I mean your skills..  

     

     I will get you  You smartass!

    3358.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:25 pm

    Fifteen hundred ‘debaptised’ in one week in UK 

     

    Fifteen hundred people paid to be ‘debaptised’ in the UK last week alone, as a new trend threatens to undermine the place of the Church of England. 

     

    The National Secular Society (NSS) has provided a ‘certificate of debaptism’ on its website for five years which has been downloaded by more than 100,000 people. They have recently introduced a new parchment copy for £3 which has proved incredibly popular, but the Church is refusing to recognize a need for the procedure....

    http://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?NewsID=4159

    he he

    More is the better..

    We should have the same thing for Islamic countries..´certificate of demuslimification´ (geez..I have to built a web site for this

    3359.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Fifteen hundred ‘debaptised’ in one week in UK 

     

    Fifteen hundred people paid to be ‘debaptised’ in the UK last week alone, as a new trend threatens to undermine the place of the Church of England. 

     

    The National Secular Society (NSS) has provided a ‘certificate of debaptism’ on its website for five years which has been downloaded by more than 100,000 people. They have recently introduced a new parchment copy for £3 which has proved incredibly popular, but the Church is refusing to recognize a need for the procedure....

    http://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?NewsID=4159

    he he

    More is the better..

    We should have the same thing for Islamic countries..´certificate of demuslimification´ (geez..I have to built a web site for this

     

    Hmmmm wondering if to become depastarianised......

    Nah

     

    3360.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     01 Apr 2009 Wed 04:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Fifteen hundred ‘debaptised’ in one week in UK 

     

    Fifteen hundred people paid to be ‘debaptised’ in the UK last week alone, as a new trend threatens to undermine the place of the Church of England. 

     

    The National Secular Society (NSS) has provided a ‘certificate of debaptism’ on its website for five years which has been downloaded by more than 100,000 people. They have recently introduced a new parchment copy for £3 which has proved incredibly popular, but the Church is refusing to recognize a need for the procedure....

    http://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?NewsID=4159

    he he

    More is the better..

    We should have the same thing for Islamic countries..´certificate of demuslimification´ (geez..I have to built a web site for this

     

     this is so funny lol

     

    as if being baptised makes you a christian  You crazy?  idiots the world is full of idiots.

    3361.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     01 Apr 2009 Wed 10:55 pm

    RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The Sudanese president has performed a Muslim pilgrimage in Islam´s holiest city, Mecca.

    This is Omar al-Bashir´s latest venture abroad despite an international court´s order for his arrest for war crimes in Darfur.

    The official Saudi Press Agency says senior officials from Mecca´s Grand Mosque met President Omar al-Bashir before he performed the minor pilgrimage, known as Omra, on Wednesday.

    The agency gave no further details about the visit, which came as King Abdullah and other senior officials were in London for the G20 summit. Al-Bashir arrived in the kingdom from Qatar, where he attended the Arab League summit this week.

    3362.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:03 pm

    Youtube is making fun today lol

     

    Everything is upside down lol

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    3363.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:05 pm

     

    Quoting femmeous

    Youtube is making fun today lol

     

    Everything is upside down lol

     

     Its NOT supposed to be like that?  I should probably get my eyes checked!

    3364.       femmeous
    2642 posts
     01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:48 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Its NOT supposed to be like that?  I should probably get my eyes checked!

     

     yes, pls, check your eyes. i think you have consumed too much of left-hand burgers lately.

     

    anyway, that joke of youtube made me dizzy. i will check my favorite vids tomorrow

    3365.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     02 Apr 2009 Thu 11:21 pm

    Femme is gone and I find it a loss (though I know that some will disagree).  

    3366.       tamikidakika
    1346 posts
     03 Apr 2009 Fri 01:41 am

    AE is gone.Sad

    3367.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     03 Apr 2009 Fri 04:28 am

    And also chiko ?!!!

    Thats strange !

    All in one day ?!!!!!

    3368.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     03 Apr 2009 Fri 10:00 pm

    ‘Woman gave birth, left baby on plane´ 
    A woman who secretly gave birth on a flight from Samoa to New Zealand may face criminal charges after her baby was found alive in the plane´s bathroom, police and media reports said on Friday. 

    Police are inquiring into "the alleged ... abandonment of the child by the mother" after the flight landed in New Zealand on Thursday, police communications manager Ana-Mari Gates-Bowey said. "A likelihood of this investigation is a criminal prosecution." Media reports said the mother left the baby in a bathroom waste bin on the Pacific Blue plane carrying 150 passengers; others said she was spotted with bloodied clothes in an immigration line. Police have declined comment on the reports. Gates-Bowey said late on Thursday the woman had undergone surgery at Auckland´s Middlemore Hospital and was later reunited with her baby. Its gender has not been disclosed. "We are relieved to have been informed that both mother and child are reunited, are well and are now being looked after in hospital," Pacific Blue said in a statement on Thursday. The 30-year-old woman, believed to be a Samoan national, got off the aircraft at Auckland International airport early on Thursday without flight attendants knowing she had given birth.

    Source: http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=170259&bolum=134

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    Shocking!!!

    3369.       libralady
    5152 posts
     03 Apr 2009 Fri 10:41 pm

     

    Quoting tamikidakika

    AE is gone.Sad

     

     I am sure she will be keeping an eye on you from her soft and fluffy new place Angel

    3370.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     04 Apr 2009 Sat 10:59 am

    School bans Muslim mother from parents´ evening for wearing veil
    A mother was barred from a parents´ evening at her son´s school as she was wearing a veil. The 34-year-old was turned away on security and safety grounds after arriving in clothes which covered every part of her body except her eyes. The incident in Blackburn follows a furore over comments by the area´s MP Jack Straw about women who cover their faces. Mr Straw, now Justice Secretary, said in 2006 that veils could make community relations harder as they were a ´visible statement of separation and difference´. In the latest controversy last week, the mother of one was furious after being told that visitors´ faces should be visible at all times. 

     

    More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167037/School-bans-Muslim-mother-parents-evening-wearing-veil.html

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    Rightly or not? Can a school barr parents because of safety reasons?

    3371.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     04 Apr 2009 Sat 12:02 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    School bans Muslim mother from parents´ evening for wearing veil
    A mother was barred from a parents´ evening at her son´s school as she was wearing a veil. The 34-year-old was turned away on security and safety grounds after arriving in clothes which covered every part of her body except her eyes. The incident in Blackburn follows a furore over comments by the area´s MP Jack Straw about women who cover their faces. Mr Straw, now Justice Secretary, said in 2006 that veils could make community relations harder as they were a ´visible statement of separation and difference´. In the latest controversy last week, the mother of one was furious after being told that visitors´ faces should be visible at all times. 

     

    More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1167037/School-bans-Muslim-mother-parents-evening-wearing-veil.html

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    Rightly or not? Can a school barr parents because of safety reasons?

    I guess the answer isn´t simple, as usual.

     

    I am a teacher in Blackburn, where this incident happened.  I saw the headline on the billboard outside a shop.  My first reaction was that the ban wasn´t necessary.  The reason I thought this was because I work in a primary school and as such, staff have daily contact with parents as they collect them from school.  In such a situation, I would say a ban would not be necessary because we would be very familiar with all parents and thus we would recognise her, even fully covered. 

     

    In most primary schools, parents´ evening is conducted within the classroom, whereas in High Schools (which is what the school in question is) parents´ evening is generally conducted in the main hall.  All staff are seated around the edge of the hall, at a table, and chairs for waiting parents are in the centre.  It is a very crowded situation.  Also, high school staff do not come into contact with parents very often.  I remember going to my daughter´s parents evenings and some of the staff had trouble recalling who my daughter was, never mind who I was!!! (And this was at a relatively small school of 600 . . . many high schools are double that size). 

     

    So in such a high school situation I would say the staff are in the same position as Jack Straw believed he was, vulnerable if they can´t even see whether the person is male or female.  A while ago a suspected terrorist escaped the country by posing as a fully covered Muslim woman . . . I don´t remember the exact details, but the incident has caused people to be cautious perhaps. 

     

    What I would say to Jack Straw and this school is . . . you  don´t know really anyone who walks through your door, covered or not . . . anyone could be a danger.  Look at recent news articles where people, even students, have returned to their schools and killed. 

     

    Maybe Members of Parliament, when they are conducting their constituency clinics, andhigh  schools, when they are conducting their parents´ evenings, should have general security measures in place, for all parents.  Rather like airports?  (tongue in cheek)

     

    I think there is a degree of compromise needed here.  If a woman chooses to fully cover herself, then she must expect to meet some difficult situations with regard to security.  So, is it acceptable for schools to ensure there is a room, staffed by women, who can check out the face of the covered Muslimas?  To do this they would have to have the photo of every parent on record and, as far as I know this is not procedure.  Or perhaps the child could have accompanied his/her parent?

     

    It is one of those situations that does not have a clear cut answer, but it definitely does divide opinion, especially when reported by the Daily Mail .

     

    If the decision has been made for security reasons, then I think a whole battery of security measures would need to be implemented because danger comes from all walks of life these days.

     

    No veil? ok she can enter . . . What about the stock of ammunition she may have under her clothing? What about the knife any parent may have secreted about his person?  What about the parent who had a very bad experience of school and harbours a grudge?  In high schools, the ist of reasons for security would be endless.  High school teachers do not know the parents so well and may have never even met them. 

     

    The sad thing is, I have heard that the government is planning to close down some high schools across the country and create new, even larger institutions.  Logistical nightmares.

     

    Without knowing the full details, I wou;d say the school hasn´t done enough to accommodate the needs of the parent or the child.  Nowadays, schools have policies for everything and there should be a policy in place in this instance, but not just to state who they will ban, but how they can best accommodate the needs of all parents/children.  The buzz word of  Blackburn with Darwen Education Authority is ´inclusion´, as it is throughout the country.  I don´t see how this incident illustrates inclusion.  I wouldn´t say that certain sectors of society need special treatment.  If security is of such importance then perhaps measures should be all inclusive, with all parents subjected to some form of security measure at the entrance (for reasons I have already stated). 

     

    We are living in different times I guess.

     

    3372.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     04 Apr 2009 Sat 12:10 pm

    On a lighter note, the mention of Jack Straw reminded me of a funny incident, which the staff at my school were actually laughing about yesterday.

     

    Some years ago, Jack Straw was due to visit our school and the head was quite excited (can´t think why personally).  She is retired now.  Our Headteacher was a lady who always got people´s names incorrect.  In Jack Straws case she referred to him as Jock Strap (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=Jock%20strap&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi  for those who aren´t familiar with a jock strap). 

     

    How I wish she had saved her error for the day she met the man himself  .

     

    Warning: content may offend 

     

     

    3373.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Apr 2009 Sat 12:13 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

    I guess the answer isn´t simple, as usual.

     

    I am a teacher in Blackburn, where this incident happened.  I saw the headline on the billboard outside a shop.  My first reaction was that the ban wasn´t necessary.  The reason I thought this was because I work in a primary school and as such, staff have daily contact with parents as they collect them from school.  In such a situation, I would say a ban would not be necessary because we would be very familiar with all parents and thus we would recognise her, even fully covered. 

     

    In most primary schools, parents´ evening is conducted within the classroom, whereas in High Schools (which is what the school in question is) parents´ evening is generally conducted in the main hall.  All staff are seated around the edge of the hall, at a table, and chairs for waiting parents are in the centre.  It is a very crowded situation.  Also, high school staff do not come into contact with parents very often.  I remember going to my daughter´s parents evenings and some of the staff had trouble recalling who my daughter was, never mind who I was!!! (And this was at a relatively small school of 600 . . . many high schools are double that size). 

     

    So in such a high school situation I would say the staff are in the same position as Jack Straw believed he was, vulnerable if they can´t even see whether the person is male or female.  A while ago a suspected terrorist escaped the country by posing as a fully covered Muslim woman . . . I don´t remember the exact details, but the incident has caused people to be cautious perhaps. 

     

    What I would say to Jack Straw and this school is . . . you  don´t know really anyone who walks through your door, covered or not . . . anyone could be a danger.  Look at recent news articles where people, even students, have returned to their schools and killed. 

     

    Maybe Members of Parliament, when they are conducting their constituency clinics, andhigh  schools, when they are conducting their parents´ evenings, should have general security measures in place, for all parents.  Rather like airports?  (tongue in cheek)

     

    I think there is a degree of compromise needed here.  If a woman chooses to fully cover herself, then she must expect to meet some difficult situations with regard to security.  So, is it acceptable for schools to ensure there is a room, staffed by women, who can check out the face of the covered Muslimas?  To do this they would have to have the photo of every parent on record and, as far as I know this is not procedure.  Or perhaps the child could have accompanied his/her parent?

     

    It is one of those situations that does not have a clear cut answer, but it definitely does divide opinion, especially when reported by the Daily Mail .

     

    If the decision has been made for security reasons, then I think a whole battery of security measures would need to be implemented because danger comes from all walks of life these days.

     

    No veil? ok she can enter . . . What about the stock of ammunition she may have under her clothing? What about the knife any parent may have secreted about his person?  What about the parent who had a very bad experience of school and harbours a grudge?  In high schools, the ist of reasons for security would be endless.  High school teachers do not know the parents so well and may have never even met them. 

     

    The sad thing is, I have heard that the government is planning to close down some high schools across the country and create new, even larger institutions.  Logistical nightmares.

     

    Without knowing the full details, I wou;d say the school hasn´t done enough to accommodate the needs of the parent or the child.  Nowadays, schools have policies for everything and there should be a policy in place in this instance, but not just to state who they will ban, but how they can best accommodate the needs of all parents/children.  The buzz word of  Blackburn with Darwen Education Authority is ´inclusion´, as it is throughout the country.  I don´t see how this incident illustrates inclusion.  I wouldn´t say that certain sectors of society need special treatment.  If security is of such importance then perhaps measures should be all inclusive, with all parents subjected to some form of security measure at the entrance (for reasons I have already stated). 

     

    We are living in different times I guess.

     

     

    Great answer PT and once again the Daily Mail doing a splendid job stirring up a bit more racial hatred!  I am sure that paper is backed by the BNP I will get you 

     

    3374.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     04 Apr 2009 Sat 12:21 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

    Great answer PT and once again the Daily Mail doing a splendid job stirring up a bit more racial hatred!  I am sure that paper is backed by the BNP I will get you 

     

     

    I am going off topic now but regarding the BNP.. IN my opinion they have dreadful views.  Whilst I understand all people should have a voice, what annoys me about the BNP is this .  They are allowed to use a National flag as their party´s emblem.  I think there should be a law to ensure no party can do this.  It´s no wonder that the St George flag doesn´t get flown as often as it might.  I think it is now mostly associated with a bunch of racists.

    3375.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     10 Apr 2009 Fri 09:43 am

    Didim starts war on tourist hustlers
     
    DÝDÝM - Didim Local Governor Ali Katýrcý warned shop owners in the Aegean resort town that they would be punished or even have their shops closed for disturbing or hustling tourists in their shops.

    Upon Katýrcý’s order, a team was formed last year to fight hustling in the town, which is visited by hundreds of thousands of tourists each year. The team included undercover policemen equipped with cameras. The officers continuously monitored and investigated the bazaars and photographed shop personnel hustling tourists.

     

    Punishments

    Following the team’s report, the local governorship fined the offending shop owners and temporarily closed down the shops. Last year more than 20 shops and restaurants were closed for 15 days.

    Pointing out that they would not tolerate hustling this year too, Katýrcý called on shop owners not to disturb tourists, otherwise their shops would be closed. "We were successful in fighting hustling last year. With fines and closure punishments, hustling cases decreased. Our aim is to stop hustling from negatively affecting tourism. We are not glad about sealing off shops, but we have to carry out the law. I strongly suggest shop and restaurant owners not get into these kinds things to disturb tourists," said Katýrcý.

     

    Source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/11402338.asp?gid=243

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    Great idea. They may start that in every city frequently visited by tourists - in & outside Turkey.

    3376.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     12 Apr 2009 Sun 09:59 am

    Muslim worshippers at about 200 old mosques in Mecca have been praying in the wrong direction for decades because the mosques were not built correctly, a Saudi newspaper reported Sunday. Muslims around the world are bound to orient their daily prayers towards the Kaaba, and mosques everywhere were supposed to be built facing the black-shrouded cubic building, or have indicators of its direction. But the Saudi Gazette reported that 200 mosques were not built precisely based on the qibla, the official alignment with the holy Kaaba shrine at the center of Mecca´s al-Haram mosque. The discrepancy was only realized after looking at the old mosques, some built more than 50 years ago, from atop the new skyscrapers under construction in Islam´s holiest city in western Saudi Arabia, the report said. Mecca residents and experts suggested that these mosques put up a correct indicator of the qibla, or orient their prayer rugs exactly in the direction of the Kaaba. Another suggestion was installing laser beams in the tall minarets of the al-Haram mosque built around the Kaaba to help mosques and worshippers establish the correct qibla direction. Deputy secretary of the Islamic Affairs Ministry, Tawfik al-Sudairy, downplayed the problem. "There are no major errors, but corrections have been made for some old mosques, thanks to modern techniques. In any case, it does not affect the prayers," the newspaper quoted Sudairy as saying.

     

    Source: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/04/05/69984.html

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    Oops!!!

    3377.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     12 Apr 2009 Sun 10:06 am

    Turkey says 11 die from alcohol poisoning 
    Eleven people have died in Turkey in the last three weeks from poisoning caused by bootleg alcohol, the Agriculture Ministry said on Saturday.  Three German students holidaying in the southeastern Mediterranean resort of Kemer are among the dead, media reports said. The ministry said in a statement that the 11 had died as a result of methyl alcohol poisoning and that it was stepping up inspections to prevent further cases. It called on consumers to be careful when purchasing alcohol to make sure that it is genuine. Among the dead were seven people who died in the northwestern province of Bursa. Most of the deaths were caused by fake raki, Turkey´s popular aniseed spirit.

     

    Source: http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=172225

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    A raký anyone?

    3378.       bydand
    755 posts
     12 Apr 2009 Sun 09:28 pm

    Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray both fall further behind in the championship after drawing 0-0 tonight.

    3379.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     13 Apr 2009 Mon 10:19 am

    ’Daughters of Allah’ nets bad review from officials
     
    ANKARA - A Religious Affairs Directorate high committee has severely criticized the book "Daughters of Allah" written by Nedim Gürsel and published by the Doðan publishing house. The committee was responding to a inquiry from a reader and drafted a one-page report to express its views regarding the book’s content. The committee concluded that the book was sarcastic and said it overstepped the boundaries of criticism, reported daily Milliyet yesterday. The reader, Ali Emre Bukaðýlý, sent two faxes to the committee in February, seeking its opinion about "Daughters of Allah." The report, signed by the committee’s Vice chairman Professor Hamza Aktan, was sent to the reader. "It has been found that the book was insulting and sarcastic, humiliating Allah, its prophets, divine religions, worshipping, holy books and religious principles. This cannot be explained in the scope of freedom of thought or criticism," the report read. Here are excerpts from the book that were found inapt:

     

    Page 22: About Prophet Ýbrahim Ð "that little Ýbrahim was crossing the line."

    Pages 164, 165: As if Ebu Sufyan was talking about Prophet Mohammed Ð "that ignorant child later married to Hatice, daughter of Hüveylid, then he became rich, however he could not become a man."

    Page 240: Menat, a non-living thing, a totem, talking about Aisha (Mohammed’s wife) Ð "Oh Aisha, dear Aisha! You little hog Aisha!"

    Page 29: About Prophet Ýbrahim Ð "He could not have illegitimate children from both of them."

    Page 71: About the Koran Ð "The crooked letters of the holy book."

    Page 120: "Allah’s darlings lying naked."

     

    Source

     

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    Hmmm, freedom of speech?

    3380.       bod
    5999 posts
     13 Apr 2009 Mon 05:02 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    School bans Muslim mother from parents´ evening for wearing veil

    ***********

    Rightly or not? Can a school barr parents because of safety reasons?

     

    Yes of course a school can, and should, ban a parent if they pose a potential safety or  security threat to staff or pupils in the school.    Take the situation of a parent entering the school blind drunk - not only is it not pleasant, not a good example to pupils but there is a real danger of the parent falling over and breaking something......a child´s back perhaps!

     

    Whether wearing a veil poses a potential threat to safety or security is, of course, a different matter!!!

    3381.       libralady
    5152 posts
     15 Apr 2009 Wed 03:21 pm

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090415/twl-fir-tree-found-growing-inside-man-s-3fd0ae9.html

     

    Poor chap with pains in his chest did not expect to have a spruce tree growing in his lungs............... gives a whole new meaning to being "spruced up"!! 

     

    Glad they were able to remove the sapling from his lungs!!

    3382.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:05 pm

    A new member´s personal picture:

     

    http://www.turkishclass.com/picture_20274

     

    Unsure

    3383.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:07 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    A new member´s personal picture:

     

    http://www.turkishclass.com/picture_20274

     

    Unsure

     hee hee maybe it´s the ingredients for the freak power <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

    3384.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:14 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     hee hee maybe it´s the ingredients for the freak power <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

     

     I thought it looked like the preparations for an unpleasant procedure of some sort with only a length of rubber tubing missing Roll eyes 

     

    3385.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Apr 2009 Wed 11:15 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     I thought it looked like the preparations for an unpleasant procedure of some sort with only a length of rubber tubing missing Roll eyes 

     

     

     apparantly a very liberating procedure!!

    3386.       libralady
    5152 posts
     16 Apr 2009 Thu 09:28 pm

     

    When this woman walked onto the stage of Britains got talent, people in the crowd were sniggering and giggling and pulling faces, a snearing bunch of prejudice people thinking she will be crap...............

     

    So one good reason why you should never judge people by their looks......... sorry for those who cannot see youtube....

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY  Angel

     

    Watching this woman sing brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes.............

     

     



    Edited (4/16/2009) by libralady [No reason]

    3387.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     16 Apr 2009 Thu 09:49 pm

    What a voice! Gives me the chills! Wow!!!!

    3388.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     16 Apr 2009 Thu 11:33 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

    Watching this woman sing brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes.............

     

     

     

     ...and to mine.  As you said it just goes to prove how wrong it is prejudge people based on their looks.  This woman has an amazing voice - I hope she can somehow realise her dream.

    3389.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Apr 2009 Fri 02:44 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     ...and to mine.  As you said it just goes to prove how wrong it is prejudge people based on their looks.  This woman has an amazing voice - I hope she can somehow realise her dream.

     

     By what is in the papers today, she has not gone un-noticed around the world with something like 12 millions hits on youtube and the rich a famous commenting on her voice!

    3390.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     18 Apr 2009 Sat 12:38 pm

    Shanno Khan, Schoolgirl Dies After Corporal Punishment in the Sun

    Shanno Khan, a little 11-year old girl in India, is dead after a teacher subjected her to severe corporal punishment by forcing her to stand outside in the hot sun.  Corporal punishment is illegal in India and Shanno Khan´s teacher and the school principal are facing possible criminal charges over her death. Little Shanno Khan was severely punished, literally left in the sun to die, after she didn´t complete a homework assignment.  For hours the 11-year old stood in the blaring New Delhi sun; her nose started to bleed, she fainted, and eventually slipped into a coma in hospital where she died. Renuka Chowdhury, India´s Minister for Women and Child Development called the incident a "terrible tragedy."  Police are awaiting the results of Shanno Khan´s autopsy before deciding whether to lay criminal charges on the educators.

     

    Eleven-year-old Shanno Khan´s teacher made her stand in the baking New Delhi sun, after which she got a bloody nose and fainted. Khan slipped into a coma after being taken to the hospital and died on Friday, AFP reported. The teacher and school principal have been suspended, and criminal charges are pending after the autopsy results are released, according to local media reports. While corporal punishment is illegal in India, it is not unusual for teachers to physically abuse students.

     

    Source

     

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    Horrible! Why aren´t practices like this not pursuid more? That teacher..... in jail for a very, very long time!

    3391.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     19 Apr 2009 Sun 09:55 pm

    Daydreamer made the Most Active Users´ Board -  Tebrikler DD!  Flowers

    3392.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Apr 2009 Mon 01:49 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Daydreamer made the Most Active Users´ Board -  Tebrikler DD!  Flowers

     

    Cheers Trudy told me about that hahahaha...it wasn´t that hard - just 4 year-long membership and most of the competition recently deleting their accounts lol

    3393.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     20 Apr 2009 Mon 04:47 am

    US woman wins race to harvest dead fiance´s sperm

    An American woman has won her legal battle to ´harvest´ sperm from her dead fiance so she can have a child by him.

     

    Gisela Marrero´s fiance Johnny Quintana died last Thursday when he suffered a heart attack at the age of 31.

    Because the couple were not married, Miss Marrero, from the Bronx in New York, had to seek permission from the courts for her fiance´s sperm to be harvested.

    After hearing Miss Marrero´s plea, a judge in New York then granted a court order giving her permission to harvest her dead lover´s sperm so that she can still have the second child they both wanted.

    The Bronx judge said "yes" on Friday with only four hours left until the deadline.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5183124/US-woman-wins-race-to-harvest-dead-fiances-sperm.html

     

     

     

    Hmmm Not sure how I feel about this one.......... It is very very sad that she lost her fiance in such a tragic and prematurely way..... and I think I understand her need to have this child but to purposely bring a child into the world without a father and to take the sperm after his death with only her word on what his wishes might of or might not have been and the fact that she may be in severe shock due to her grief ....... I´m not sure I would have had the same clarity of thought to be able to take this action and make it stand up in a court of lawConfused

    3394.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Apr 2009 Mon 07:09 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

    US woman wins race to harvest dead fiance´s sperm

    An American woman has won her legal battle to ´harvest´ sperm from her dead fiance so she can have a child by him.

     

    Gisela Marrero´s fiance Johnny Quintana died last Thursday when he suffered a heart attack at the age of 31.

    Because the couple were not married, Miss Marrero, from the Bronx in New York, had to seek permission from the courts for her fiance´s sperm to be harvested.

    After hearing Miss Marrero´s plea, a judge in New York then granted a court order giving her permission to harvest her dead lover´s sperm so that she can still have the second child they both wanted.

    The Bronx judge said "yes" on Friday with only four hours left until the deadline.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5183124/US-woman-wins-race-to-harvest-dead-fiances-sperm.html

     

     

     

    Hmmm Not sure how I feel about this one.......... It is very very sad that she lost her fiance in such a tragic and prematurely way..... and I think I understand her need to have this child but to purposely bring a child into the world without a father and to take the sperm after his death with only her word on what his wishes might of or might not have been and the fact that she may be in severe shock due to her grief ....... I´m not sure I would have had the same clarity of thought to be able to take this action and make it stand up in a court of lawConfused

     

    Glad I am not the only one who thinks like this!  I think it would have been the last thing on my mind at a time like that ...........   Confused

     

    3395.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     20 Apr 2009 Mon 07:44 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Cheers Trudy told me about that hahahaha...it wasn´t that hard - just 4 year-long membership and most of the competition recently deleting their accounts lol

     

     Just remember it´s quality not quantity that´s important!

    3396.       alameda
    3499 posts
     21 Apr 2009 Tue 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

    Glad I am not the only one who thinks like this!  I think it would have been the last thing on my mind at a time like that ...........   Confused

     

     

     Sounds really creepy to me! I understand people wanting something living after a loved one departs, but I also wonder about the general health of the harvest...so to speak.

    3397.       alameda
    3499 posts
     21 Apr 2009 Tue 08:26 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Cheers Trudy told me about that hahahaha...it wasn´t that hard - just 4 year-long membership and most of the competition recently deleting their accounts lol

     

     Although, we have not always agreed..Smile..I must say most of your posts are thoughtful, substanstive and meaningful, unlike a lot of  "me too" type posts that have boosted stats of some.

    3398.       bydand
    755 posts
     21 Apr 2009 Tue 10:49 pm

    Just found the Translation Lounge has been closed without warning. What the hell! Is this just temporary or permanent? Unsure



    Edited (4/21/2009) by bydand

    3399.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     22 Apr 2009 Wed 03:37 am

    Fertility expert: ´I can clone a human being´

     

     

    Controversial doctor filmed creating embryos before injecting them into wombs of women wanting cloned babies

    By Steve Connor, Science Editor

    Wednesday, 22 April 2009

    Dr Panayiotis Zavos will be online from 10am BST to answer questions about his controversial work

    Dr Panayiotis Zavos will be online from 10am BST to answer questions about his controversial work

    A controversial fertility doctor claimed yesterday to have cloned 14 human embryos and transferred 11 of them into the wombs of four women who had been prepared to give birth to cloned babies.

     

    The cloning was recorded by an independent documentary film-maker who has testified to The Independent that the cloning had taken place and that the women were genuinely hoping to become pregnant with the first cloned embryos specifically created for the purposes of human reproduction.

    Panayiotis Zavos has broken the ultimate taboo of transferring cloned embryos into the human womb, a procedure that is a criminal offence in Britain and illegal in many other countries. He carried out the work at a secret lab-oratory, probably located in the Middle East where there is no cloning ban. Dr Zavos, a naturalised American, also has fertility clinics in Kentucky and Cyprus, where he was born. His patients – three married couples and a single woman – came from Britain, the United States and an unspecified country in the Middle East.

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fertility-expert-i-can-clone-a-human-being-1672095.html

     

     

    The end of ´life´ as we know it? ........whatever happened to the old fashioned way of making babies!! Satisfied nod



    Edited (4/22/2009) by lessluv [oooops forgot the link]

    3400.       libralady
    5152 posts
     22 Apr 2009 Wed 11:15 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    Fertility expert: ´I can clone a human being´

     

     

    Controversial doctor filmed creating embryos before injecting them into wombs of women wanting cloned babies

    By Steve Connor, Science Editor

    Wednesday, 22 April 2009

    Dr Panayiotis Zavos will be online from 10am BST to answer questions about his controversial work

    Dr Panayiotis Zavos will be online from 10am BST to answer questions about his controversial work

    A controversial fertility doctor claimed yesterday to have cloned 14 human embryos and transferred 11 of them into the wombs of four women who had been prepared to give birth to cloned babies.

     

    The cloning was recorded by an independent documentary film-maker who has testified to The Independent that the cloning had taken place and that the women were genuinely hoping to become pregnant with the first cloned embryos specifically created for the purposes of human reproduction.

    Panayiotis Zavos has broken the ultimate taboo of transferring cloned embryos into the human womb, a procedure that is a criminal offence in Britain and illegal in many other countries. He carried out the work at a secret lab-oratory, probably located in the Middle East where there is no cloning ban. Dr Zavos, a naturalised American, also has fertility clinics in Kentucky and Cyprus, where he was born. His patients – three married couples and a single woman – came from Britain, the United States and an unspecified country in the Middle East.

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fertility-expert-i-can-clone-a-human-being-1672095.html

     

     

    The end of ´life´ as we know it? ........whatever happened to the old fashioned way of making babies!! Satisfied nod

     

     Too right Less - can´t beat a bit of good old fashioned pratice can you??  Anyway the thought of this cloning makes me feel sick......... Puking

    3401.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 Apr 2009 Wed 06:54 pm

     

    Quoting bydand

    Just found the Translation Lounge has been closed without warning. What the hell! Is this just temporary or permanent? Unsure

     

     I think I´ve fixed it now

    3402.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Apr 2009 Wed 08:58 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     I think I´ve fixed it now

     

     As usual LIR: you´re great!!

    3403.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 Apr 2009 Wed 11:24 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     As usual LIR: you´re great!!

                   

                                                                      Shy

    3404.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 01:24 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

    As usual LIR: you´re great!!

     

    phew phew.. am I sensing something here?

    3405.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 02:40 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    phew phew.. am I sensing something here?

     

     Shall I buy a hat?

    3406.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 03:27 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    Shall I buy a hat?

     

    I don´t know, but I´m investing in a nice dress.. Satisfied nod I hope that as an collegue (fellow admin) I will be invited...

    3407.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 06:58 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I don´t know, but I´m investing in a nice dress.. Satisfied nod I hope that as an collegue (fellow admin) I will be invited...

     

     Invited for what, canim? lol lol

    3408.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 11:23 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Invited for what, canim? lol lol

     

     Take no notice Trudy - she´s overworked!  (not sure what Lessluv´s excuse is though lol )

    3409.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 11:29 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     Take no notice Trudy - she´s overworked!  (not sure what Lessluv´s excuse is though lol )

     

     How very dare you! I´ll have you know I work very very hard....(sometimes).....

     

    but my excuse today is sleep deprivation!

    3410.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Apr 2009 Thu 02:39 pm

    Woohoo.....The cages have been rattled........Let them out <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3411.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     24 Apr 2009 Fri 12:06 pm

    http://www.lezzetportali.com/wp-content/1168981302sekerpare.jpga picture of sekerpare <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    YUMMY!

     

    3412.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     24 Apr 2009 Fri 06:47 pm

    Babyglam in the translation forum!  - she´s escaped the main page!

    3413.       adana
    416 posts
     24 Apr 2009 Fri 07:08 pm

    The Republic of Kazakhstan in Central Asia is in the process of building the world’s first alien embassy according to some local media reports. If these reports are to be believed, the authorities have already allocated a large plot of land in the city of Almaty for this ambitious project. Facilities to be built within the complex will include a guesthouse, theatre and translation service. A purpose built UFO landing pad and checkpoint will be attached to the embassy.

    Kazakhstan’s government believes open contact with aliens is imminent ........

    from


    It explains femme´s departure I guess.....

    3414.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     24 Apr 2009 Fri 07:11 pm

     

    Quoting adana

    It explains femme´s departure I guess.....

     

     lol - my thoughts exactly!

    3415.       bydand
    755 posts
     26 Apr 2009 Sun 12:23 am

    Fenerbahçe lose again and fall 12 points behind the leaders. What the hell!

    3416.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     01 May 2009 Fri 01:41 am

    welcome back teaschip Smile

    3417.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     01 May 2009 Fri 01:44 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    welcome back teaschip Smile

     

     I second that!  Flowers

    3418.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     01 May 2009 Fri 01:45 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    welcome back teaschip Smile

     

    Glad to see some familiar names here..Big smile 

    3419.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     01 May 2009 Fri 01:46 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     I second that!  Flowers

     

     Aww...thanks.Big smile

    3420.       libralady
    5152 posts
     01 May 2009 Fri 10:43 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     Aww...thanks.Big smile

     

     Good to see you back ! Big smile

    3421.       libralady
    5152 posts
     01 May 2009 Fri 04:32 pm

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/05/01/girl-10-suffered-70-burns-from-a-sunbed-91466-23517084/

     

    10 year old girl suffers 70% burns after spending 16 minutes on a sunbed, in a salon of unmanned sunbeds.  You just pump in your money lie on the sunbed and pull down the lid and bingo !

     

    I find in incomprehensible that she was able to do this and whats more, able to venture into town age 10 years old. Confused

    3422.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 May 2009 Sat 01:21 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    welcome back teaschip Smile

     

    +1!!

    3423.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 May 2009 Sat 01:23 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     Take no notice Trudy - she´s overworked!  (not sure what Lessluv´s excuse is though lol )

     

    Take no notice???!!! What the hell!Rant

    3424.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 May 2009 Mon 04:31 pm

    3 translation requests (each from a different member) to do with Shakespeare´s ´Hamlet´ - are dudus becoming more intellectual or is this a move away from the norm??  lol

    3425.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     04 May 2009 Mon 05:55 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    3 translation requests (each from a different member) to do with Shakespeare´s ´Hamlet´ - are dudus becoming more intellectual or is this a move away from the norm??  lol

     

     dudu or not dudu....that is the question

    3426.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 May 2009 Mon 06:31 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     dudu or not dudu....that is the question

     

    You have far too much time on your hands young lady!!!   Get back to pedalling that ambulance!

    lol lol lol



    Edited (5/4/2009) by lady in red

    3427.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 May 2009 Mon 09:47 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

    Glad to see some familiar names here..Big smile 

     

     Do I know you?????  Hummmm....teaschip...sounds familiar.  Ahhhh....yes....bed american....conservative....outspoken....NOT FROM CALIFORNIA!!

     

    Welcome back!!  I was beginning to think you had been abducted by dudus!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3428.       bydand
    755 posts
     05 May 2009 Tue 12:19 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    welcome back teaschip Smile

     

     I think she´s gone again.  Unsure

    3429.       libralady
    5152 posts
     05 May 2009 Tue 06:26 pm

    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=apr&story=gen-en-140409

     

    Pay by the pound (and that is how much you weigh) Uhmmm I have my opinions on this and I don´t intend sharing <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> but perhaps it was inevitable!!!

    3430.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     05 May 2009 Tue 09:05 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=apr&story=gen-en-140409

     

    Pay by the pound (and that is how much you weigh) Uhmmm I have my opinions on this and I don´t intend sharing <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> but perhaps it was inevitable!!!

     

    lol

    Will they refund the difference if you use their paid toilet during the flight and in effect weigh slightly less than before? lol

     

    That reminds me of an old Polish comedy where people returning from abroad were put on scales upon their arrival in Poland. If you lost weigh during your stay abroad you had to pay for the difference as "5 kilograms of a citizen has returned" lol Charges were higher for citizens with tertiary education lol

     

    Seriously, one could suspect Ryanair to be a Scottish airlinelol (no offence bydand!)

    3431.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     06 May 2009 Wed 01:09 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     bed american.......FROM CALIFORNIA!!

     

     

     

     You called?  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3432.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     06 May 2009 Wed 05:34 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Do I know you?????  Hummmm....teaschip...sounds familiar.  Ahhhh....yes....bed american....conservative....outspoken....NOT FROM CALIFORNIA!!

     

    Welcome back!!  I was beginning to think you had been abducted by dudus!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

    I was in Madagascar raising komoto dragons.Big smile No dudus...Confused  So any new reports or sightings in the field?  I missed your reporting.Big smile

     

    3433.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     07 May 2009 Thu 02:27 am

    Ok, I have an obsession with vintage items and love to support those who make handmade things.  I frequently shop etsy.com which if you have never been on this site, I encourage you too.  They just don´t sell anything like ebay, but items that are either handmade or items that are 20 years plus.  Such creative people from all of the world.  Yesterday, as I was doing my daily browsing low and behold came accross this article.  Remarkable and such talented woman!  I may just have to order something.Big smile

    http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/shop-local-turkey-with-toosis-3841/

    3434.       libralady
    5152 posts
     07 May 2009 Thu 10:56 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Ok, I have an obsession with vintage items and love to support those who make handmade things.  I frequently shop etsy.com which if you have never been on this site, I encourage you too.  They just don´t sell anything like ebay, but items that are either handmade or items that are 20 years plus.  Such creative people from all of the world.  Yesterday, as I was doing my daily browsing low and behold came accross this article.  Remarkable and such talented woman!  I may just have to order something.Big smile

    http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/shop-local-turkey-with-toosis-3841/

     

     Hey what a brilliant site!  Thanks Big smile

    3435.       bydand
    755 posts
     11 May 2009 Mon 01:04 am

    Beþiktaþ go top. Neutral

    3436.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     11 May 2009 Mon 08:06 am

    Wang Guiying is a 107-year-old Chinese woman who takes things very slowly… even love.

    wang guiying 107 Year Old Woman Seeks First Husband   picture

    Wang Guiying was born in southern Guizhou province, the child of a salt merchant. She grew up watching her uncles and other men scold and beat their wives and this made her fear marriage.

    After Wang’s father, mother and older sister died, she still shied away from marriage and moved to the countryside where she survived as a farmer until she was 74 years old and no longer strong enough to work in the fields.

    Now Wang has decided that it’s time to forget the past and take the bull by the horns, so to speak. She told the press that she hopes to find a fellow centenarian so they will have something to talk about.

    She came to her decision because she was worried that she had become a burden to her aging nieces and nephews, especially since she was forced to stop helping with household chores since breaking her leg when she was 102.

    “My nephews and nieces are getting older and their children are already tied up with their own families and I am becoming more and more of a burden. I’m already 107 and I still haven’t gotten married. What will happen if I don’t hurry up and find a husband?”

    Good luck, Wang!

    (Link)

     

    AWWWW Roll eyes

    3437.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     11 May 2009 Mon 06:57 pm

    I wonder if Sui would be interested in this?  Roll eyes

     

    Supercar

    3438.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     11 May 2009 Mon 09:10 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    I wonder if Sui would be interested in this?  Roll eyes

     

    Supercar

     

     heh heh veggie oil and chocolate works for me and I run ok!! ha ha

    3439.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     12 May 2009 Tue 06:14 am

    Where are all the bed Amerikans?  I leave for a few months and the CGG is gone!Confused

    3440.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     12 May 2009 Tue 07:49 pm

    Strange bed amerikans! Unsure

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5286453/Donkey-basketball-banned-in-states-across-America.html

    3441.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     12 May 2009 Tue 08:14 pm

     

     That´s what happens when immigrations get´s out of hand.Big smile   I see the wink emotion icon is gone.Confused

     

    3442.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     12 May 2009 Tue 08:48 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     That´s what happens when immigrations get´s out of hand.Big smile   I see the wink emotion icon is gone.Confused

     

     

     WinkWinkWink - here it is

    3443.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     12 May 2009 Tue 08:53 pm

    Ah ha...I didn´t enlarge the box.Wink

    3444.       libralady
    5152 posts
     13 May 2009 Wed 12:19 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Ah ha...I didn´t enlarge the box.Wink

     

     Oh dear, I am always interested in an enlarged box Angel

    3445.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     14 May 2009 Thu 08:48 pm

    Pope gunman wants to be Christian 
    The gunman who shot Pope John Paul II says he would like to convert to Christianity at a baptism ceremony at the Vatican after his release from prison in January. In comments relayed by his lawyer on Wednesday, Mehmet Ali Aðca also says he wants to visit the grave of Pope John Paul II, meet with Pope Benedict XVI. Aðca shot and seriously wounded John Paul on May 13, 1981. The late pope met with Aðca in an Italian prison in 1983 and forgave him for the shooting. Aðca served 19 years in an Italian prison for the attack and is currently serving a prison term in Turkey for killing journalist Abdi Ýpekçi. He is due to be released from Sincan Prison, near Ankara , on Jan. 18, 2010. 

     

    Source

    3446.       TheVineyards
    11 posts
     15 May 2009 Fri 02:34 am

    He also wants to marry an Italian woman and full redemption from his past sins. He became famous after he shot Pope Jean Paul II, Pope recovered and forgave him (God knows why). Nevertheless, he had already killed a prominent Turkish journalist earlier on. He served time in Turkey and Italy and fled from prison when he was in Turkey. In his confession, he said he was a pawn, nobody knows what his real motives were. The fact that he has revealed so little despite talking all that much is a tell tale sign of his possible connection with global terrorist organizations (or countries controlling these sorts of activities).

     

    This guy stole other people´s lives from them and their families. He has not had much of a life of his own either. Most of his life was spent as a prisoner in an isolated cell. It is very likely that he has become a different creature than how he was when he entered prison. He must have lost his contact with his roots, with reality, and with the daily flow of life. It is quite possible that the only person to forgive him unconditionally was Pope Jean Paul. By converting to his religion, he thinks he is redeeming himself from his past sins.

     

    He did not manage to kill Pope but he left the wife and daughter of Ipekci without a husband and father. Will they excuse him? I don´t think so.  In their eyes, he is still the same guy who murdered their father who had no way to defend himself.



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    3447.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 May 2009 Fri 04:12 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Pope gunman wants to be Christian 
    The gunman who shot Pope John Paul II says he would like to convert to Christianity at a baptism ceremony at the Vatican after his release from prison in January. In comments relayed by his lawyer on Wednesday, Mehmet Ali Aðca also says he wants to visit the grave of Pope John Paul II, meet with Pope Benedict XVI. Aðca shot and seriously wounded John Paul on May 13, 1981. The late pope met with Aðca in an Italian prison in 1983 and forgave him for the shooting. Aðca served 19 years in an Italian prison for the attack and is currently serving a prison term in Turkey for killing journalist Abdi Ýpekçi. He is due to be released from Sincan Prison, near Ankara , on Jan. 18, 2010. 

     

    Source

     

     What the hell!  How many people does this guy have to kill/attempt to kill before the court systems realize he is a danger to society.  I can understand forgiving him (sort of) but releasing this repeat violent offender.....it just makes me wonder.  It isn´t exactly like he stole a loaf of bread! 

    3448.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 May 2009 Fri 04:16 pm

     

     Hummm....

    Donkey Basketball....bunch of people riding donkey and trying to get a large ball into a basket with no bottom.....

    Polo....a bunch of people riding horses trying to hit a small ball with a mallet.....

     

    I think we shouldn´t throw stones when we live in glass houses, missy!!!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



    Edited (5/15/2009) by Elisabeth

    3449.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 May 2009 Fri 06:11 pm

     

    Quoting TheVineyards

    He also wants to marry an Italian woman and full redemption from his past sins. He became famous after he shot Pope Jean Paul II, Pope recovered and forgave him (God knows why). Nevertheless, he had already killed a prominent Turkish journalist earlier on. He served time in Turkey and Italy and fled from prison when he was in Turkey. In his confession, he said he was a pawn, nobody knows what his real motives were. The fact that he has revealed so little despite talking all that much is a tell tale sign of his possible connection with global terrorist organizations (or countries controlling these sorts of activities).

     

    This guy stole other people´s lives from them and their families. He has not had much of a life of his own either. Most of his life was spent as a prisoner in an isolated cell. It is very likely that he has become a different creature than how he was when he entered prison. He must have lost his contact with his roots, with reality, and with the daily flow of life. It is quite possible that the only person to forgive him unconditionally was Pope Jean Paul. By converting to his religion, he thinks he is redeeming himself from his past sins.

     

    He did not manage to kill Pope but he left the wife and daughter of Ipekci without a husband and father. Will they excuse him? I don´t think so.  In their eyes, he is still the same guy who murdered their father who had no way to defend himself.

     

    Interesting...I wonder just how much he actually knows about Christianity, or Roman Catholic branch of it? 

     

    It seems he wants absolution....and seeks to be baptised in the Roman Catholic church.  If he actually believes this, he must be tortured now, as he has no way to insure his sins to be forgiven without these conditions being fulfilled.  Many in this believe system believe their souls will wander for eternity in limbo unless they are baptised, take the Eucharist and perform the penance given them by the priest.  

     

    At any rate, he seems to be a very tortured soul.

     

    ....Forgiveness....not much on Atonement...

    3450.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     18 May 2009 Mon 12:01 am

    A man who tried to hire a prostitute to take his 14-year-old son´s virginity as a present was spared jail by a court on Friday.

    The Polish national took the boy out in his car and allowed him to pick out the prostitute, who was standing at the side of the road in the red-light district of Nottingham.

    But the 42-year-old father was arrested because the teenager had chosen an undercover police officer, Nottingham Crown Court heard.

    The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was handed a 10-month prison sentence, suspended for a year, after he admitted a charge of trying to solicit a woman to have sex with a child, the Press Association reported.

    The court heard that the father, who came to Britain eight years ago, was arrested last July during an undercover operation by the city´s vice squad.

    Prosecutor Adrian Harris said the man and his son had approached the undercover officer whose code name was Sarah and beckoned her over .

    He asked "Sarah" how much it would cost for her to have sex with his son and they agreed on a 20 pound fee. However, when the car pulled over, the man was arrested by plainclothes police officers.

    "The boy said that they had driven past the girl and his dad pointed to her and said ´will she do?´" Harris said.

    "He said ´yes´ and they had turned round. He said his dad did this because he was still a virgin and he was taking care of that for him."

    Judge Jonathan Teare said he would spare the father jail because of his excellent character and that he believed he did not mean any harm to his son.

    "You have a duty of care to your son and that is to look after his moral welfare, not as you might think to break him in to the ways of sex through a prostitute," he said.

    The court was told the boy would continue to live with his father.

     

    Get your own here

     

    What the hell! Cool Dad or Bad Dad!!

    3451.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     18 May 2009 Mon 05:39 am

    Cool Dad or Bad Dad!!

     

    Quite disturbing....Sick

    3452.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 May 2009 Mon 02:49 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Cool Dad or Bad Dad!!

     

    Quite disturbing....Sick

     

     Quite Confused  Good job I am not the boys mother otherwise the boys father would be regretting his actions I will get you

    3453.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     18 May 2009 Mon 09:05 pm

    A thread that´s run to more than a page and that has actually instigated some discussion.  At last - after over 5 weeks!!!  Well done Trudy Flowers

    3454.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     18 May 2009 Mon 09:43 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    A thread that´s run to more than a page and that has actually instigated some discussion.  At last - after over 5 weeks!!!  Well done Trudy Flowers

     

     And I even didn´t do it on purpose......

    3455.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 May 2009 Mon 11:02 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    A thread that´s run to more than a page and that has actually instigated some discussion.  At last - after over 5 weeks!!!  Well done Trudy Flowers

     

     And more than three people involved <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3456.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 May 2009 Wed 03:11 pm

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090518/twl-mum-s-shock-at-twins-with-different-3fd0ae9.html

     

    Has your love affair ever caught you out?  Well it did for this women, she managed to conceive twins by two different fathers.......... now try explaing that one away <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3457.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 May 2009 Wed 09:52 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090518/twl-mum-s-shock-at-twins-with-different-3fd0ae9.html

     

    Has your love affair ever caught you out?  Well it did for this women, she managed to conceive twins by two different fathers.......... now try explaing that one away <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Then there is another issue. What about the other father?  Nobody mentioned the child´s right to his biological father or that father´s right to his child.

    3458.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 May 2009 Wed 10:22 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     Then there is another issue. What about the other father?  Nobody mentioned the child´s right to his biological father or that father´s right to his child.

     

     Perhaps she does not know who the "other" father is.............. those poor twins don´t know exactly who their father is. 

    3459.       libralady
    5152 posts
     21 May 2009 Thu 10:47 am

    The little mouse my cat brought in this morning, cowering in the corner........ so 7:00am I was trying to catch the mouse before the cat killed it.  Mission accomplished and mouse is free <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3460.       alameda
    3499 posts
     21 May 2009 Thu 08:48 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    The little mouse my cat brought in this morning, cowering in the corner........ so 7:00am I was trying to catch the mouse before the cat killed it.  Mission accomplished and mouse is free <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

     I had cat #1 for years. Never in the time I had him was any mouse ever heard of or seen.  I  then brought in another young cat.  I had no idea there were any mice around until cat #2 came in.  He was amazing.  It was like he could charm mice out of the walls.  His ears would perk up and he would stand in the middle of the room like in a trance. One time he got one that screamed. It was really quite upsetting. We love out cats, but it is upsetting when they do their "thing".

     

    It´s difficult to watch cats and mice, but that´s nature. Too many mice can be a real problem.  Then you could join this rat and mouse rescue organization.

    3461.       alameda
    3499 posts
     21 May 2009 Thu 09:31 pm

    I released about 1,500 ladybugs in my garden the other night in order to control aphid infestation.  They were released with great care to follow the instructions.  The last couple of mornings there have been a lot of birds in my garden.....the cycle of life goes on. Wink

    3462.       libralady
    5152 posts
     21 May 2009 Thu 11:35 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

    I released about 1,500 ladybugs in my garden the other night in order to control aphid infestation.  They were released with great care to follow the instructions.  The last couple of mornings there have been a lot of birds in my garden.....the cycle of life goes on. Wink

     

     Where did you get the ladybirds from?  Does someone breed them? Unsure 

    3463.       alameda
    3499 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 12:03 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Where did you get the ladybirds from?  Does someone breed them? Unsure 

     

     Ladybugs...not ladybirds....you can buy them in nurseries here...or mail order them.  I also got some trichogramma and lacewing eggs....and a worm composter.  As you have probably guessed, I´m doing it the "natural" way.

    3464.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 01:01 am

    I thought ladybug was an American term for ladybird...what´s the difference?

    3465.       alameda
    3499 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 01:07 am

    Found this amazing site with photographs of insects...and other things. 

     

    Explore

    3466.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 01:38 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I thought ladybug was an American term for ladybird...what´s the difference?

     

     No difference - just strange bed amerikan language!   lol

    3467.       alameda
    3499 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 03:00 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     No difference - just strange bed amerikan language!   lol

     

     Ha ha ha....so you call them ladybirds....that was President Johnson´s wife´s nick name.  She only recently passed away.  She was famous for saving wildflowers.



    Edited (5/22/2009) by alameda [change link]

    3468.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 11:17 am

    Couple withdraw money and flee after bank error

     

     

    What would you do???   lol lol



    Edited (5/22/2009) by lady in red

    3469.       libralady
    5152 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 03:01 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I thought ladybug was an American term for ladybird...what´s the difference?

     

     There is no difference! Big smile

    3470.       libralady
    5152 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 03:03 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Couple withdraw money and flee after bank error

     

     

    What would you do???   lol lol

     

     Nice idea but would it work?  I could never abandon my family so I would have to say no I would not do that!!! But............. if I was single and had no ties, you would find me in Thailand, sunning myself on the beach <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> thinking about how big a boat I should buy............

    3471.       libralady
    5152 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 03:06 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     No difference - just strange bed amerikan language!   lol

     

     A lot of ladybirds indicate a long hot summer - as of 1975 and 1976 (in the UK).  In 1975 there were swarms of ladybirds because of the increase in temperature and large numbers of aphids for them to munch on! <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    I keep looking out for lots of ladybirds as we are supposed to be getting heat wave this summer............

     

    Actually, here are some amazing facts about ladybirds



    Edited (5/22/2009) by libralady [Added amazing facts about wonderful little creatures]

    3472.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 03:56 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Couple withdraw money and flee after bank error

     

     

    What would you do???   lol lol

     

     how tempting!!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) but at what cost.....to be a fugitive for the rest of your life.....I´ll stick to being poor(ish) ha ha

    3473.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 04:00 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     A lot of ladybirds indicate a long hot summer - as of 1975 and 1976 (in the UK).  In 1975 there were swarms of ladybirds because of the increase in temperature and large numbers of aphids for them to munch on! <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    I keep looking out for lots of ladybirds as we are supposed to be getting heat wave this summer............

     

    Actually, here are some amazing facts about ladybirds

     

     I loved their children´s books...and so did my children!   lol  (comment for evil Brits only as probably means nothing to bed amrikans )

    3474.       alameda
    3499 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 04:48 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I thought ladybug was an American term for ladybird...what´s the difference?

     

    You are right.....it seems they are sort of the same thing. 

     

    I guess you have to be careful when you get them. Most Americans would only call them ladybugs when they are a specific type.

     

    "Ladybugs are also called lady beetles or, in Europe, ladybird beetles. There are about 5,000 different species of these insects, and not all of them have the same appetites. A few ladybugs prey not on plant-eaters but on plants. The Mexican bean beetle and the squash beetle are destructive pests that prey upon the crops mentioned in their names."

     

    3475.       DaveT
    70 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 06:55 pm

    It´s not in my Redhouse as such, but I was told that one of the Turkish names for ladybug is lucky bug.

     

    I was talking with some friends in eastern Turkey when I spotted a ladybug on a concrete walkway where it was in danger of being stepped on. I got it to crawl onto my hand and put it in some bushes. My friends (most of whom spoke little English) seemed to respect this quite a bit and one of them told me that it´s name was lucky bug and it was good that I had rescued it.

     

    They wanted to tell me more but we couldn´t communicate well enough to share further details.

    3476.       alameda
    3499 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 07:44 pm

     

    Quoting DaveT

    It´s not in my Redhouse as such, but I was told that one of the Turkish names for ladybug is lucky bug.

     

    I was talking with some friends in eastern Turkey when I spotted a ladybug on a concrete walkway where it was in danger of being stepped on. I got it to crawl onto my hand and put it in some bushes. My friends (most of whom spoke little English) seemed to respect this quite a bit and one of them told me that it´s name was lucky bug and it was good that I had rescued it.

     

    They wanted to tell me more but we couldn´t communicate well enough to share further details.

     

    Nice...there is a tale here that they bring good luck if you hold them in your hand,  tell them a wish &  let them free, your wish has a very good chance of being granted.

     

    I found these ladybug legends here....this site has some amazing photos!

     

    HOW THE LADYBUG GOT ITS NAME:

    Legends vary about how the Ladybug came to be named, but the most common (and enduring) is this:   In Europe, during the Middle Ages, swarms of insects were destroying the crops.  The farmers prayed to the Virgin Mary for help.  Soon thereafter the Ladybugs came, devouring the plant-destroying pests and saving the crops!  The farmers called these beautiful insects "The Beetles of Our Lady", and - over time - they eventually became popularly known as "Lady Beetles".  The red wings were said to represent the Virgin´s cloak and the black spots were symbolic of both her joys and her sorrows.

    LADYBUG LEGENDS:

    Nearly ALL cultures believe that a Ladybug is lucky.
    Killing one is said to bring sadness and misfortune.

    In France, if a Ladybug landed on you, whatever ailment
    you had would fly away with the Ladybug.

    If a Ladybug is held in the hand while making a wish,
    the direction that it flies away to shows where
    your luck will come from.

    If the spots on the wings of a Ladybug are more than seven,
    it´s a sign of coming famine.  If less than seven, it means
    you will have a good harvest.

    In Belgium, people believed that if a Ladybug crawled across
    a young girl´s hand, she would be married within a year.

    People in Switzerland told their young children
    that they were brought to them, as babies, by Ladybugs.
    ...and we thought Storks did that)!

    In some Asian cultures, it is believed that the Ladybug understands
    human language, and has been blessed by God, Himself.

    In Brussels, the black spots on the back of a Ladybug indicate to the
    person holding it how many children he/she will have.

    According to a Norse legend, the Ladybug came to earth
    riding on a bolt of lightning.

      
    The Victorians in Britain believed that if a Ladybug alighted on your
    hand, you would be receiving new gloves.....if it landed on your head,
    a new hat would be in your future, and so on.

    In the 1800´s, some doctors used Ladybugs to treat measles!  They
    also believed that if you mashed ladybugs (ewww!) and put them
    into a cavity, the insects would stop a toothache!

    During the Pioneer days, if a family found a Ladybug in their log cabin
    during the winter, it was considered a "Good Omen".

    In the Spring, if numerous Ladybugs are seen flying around,
    British farmers say it forecasts many bountiful crops.

    Many Bretons believe that the arrival of Ladybugs will bring fair weather.

    Folklore suggests if you catch a Ladybug in your home, count the number
    of spots and that´s how many dollars you´ll soon find.

    In Norway, if a man and a woman spot a Ladybug at the same time,
    there will be a romance between them.

     



    Edited (5/22/2009) by alameda [edit]

    3477.       vineyards
    1954 posts
     22 May 2009 Fri 07:50 pm

     Yes, there is even a little child song about it

     

    Uç, uç  uður böceði

    Akþama baban sana terlik, pabuç alacak

     

    Fly, fly, lucky bug

    In the evening

    Your father will bring you shoes and slippers.

     

    Quoting DaveT

    It´s not in my Redhouse as such, but I was told that one of the Turkish names for ladybug is lucky bug.

     

    I was talking with some friends in eastern Turkey when I spotted a ladybug on a concrete walkway where it was in danger of being stepped on. I got it to crawl onto my hand and put it in some bushes. My friends (most of whom spoke little English) seemed to respect this quite a bit and one of them told me that it´s name was lucky bug and it was good that I had rescued it.

     

    They wanted to tell me more but we couldn´t communicate well enough to share further details.

     

     

    3478.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     23 May 2009 Sat 04:43 am

    What a lovely collection of ladybird legends, thank you Alameda Flowers

     

    In Poland children usually put ladybirds on their hands and while releasing them to fly they say this rhyme:

     

    Biedroneczko, leć do nieba

    Przynieś mi kawałek chleba

     

    which translates as "Little ladybird fly to the sky, bring me back a piece of bread"

    3479.       DaveT
    70 posts
     23 May 2009 Sat 06:18 am

    Also thanks to Vineyards for the child´s poem. I find it charming.

    3480.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 May 2009 Sat 10:33 am

    ...a little bird who couldn´t stay away for long!  lol lol

    3481.       slavica
    814 posts
     24 May 2009 Sun 05:05 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    What a lovely collection of ladybird legends, thank you Alameda Flowers

     

     Yes, lovely collection indeed! Thank you Alameda Flowers

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    In Poland children usually put ladybirds on their hands and while releasing them to fly they say this rhyme:

     

    Biedroneczko, leć do nieba

    Przynieś mi kawałek chleba

     

    which translates as "Little ladybird fly to the sky, bring me back a piece of bread"

     

    The similar thing in Serbia, but children say:

     

    Let, let, bubamaro,

    donesi mi goste!

     

    which means  "Fly, fly, ladybird, bring me back a guest!"

    3482.       birdy
    245 posts
     24 May 2009 Sun 11:08 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    ...a little bird who couldn´t stay away for long!  lol lol

     

     senin problemin,benim degil)))

    3483.       birdy
    245 posts
     24 May 2009 Sun 11:10 pm

     

    Quoting slavica

     

     Yes, lovely collection indeed! Thank you Alameda Flowers

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    In Poland children usually put ladybirds on their hands and while releasing them to fly they say this rhyme:

     

    Biedroneczko, leć do nieba

    Przynieś mi kawałek chleba

     

    which translates as "Little ladybird fly to the sky, bring me back a piece of bread"

     

    The similar thing in Serbia, but children say:

     

    Let, let, bubamaro,

    donesi mi goste!

     

    which means  "Fly, fly, ladybird, bring me back a guest!"

     right,ladybirds have a special charisma in Slavic nations..but we also say guest and fish stink after 3 days which is so similar to Turkish saying..anyway<personally I prefer ladybirds than invasion of unexpected guests)

     



    Edited (5/24/2009) by birdy

    3484.       alameda
    3499 posts
     25 May 2009 Mon 02:36 am

     

    Quoting birdy

     

     right,ladybirds have a special charisma in Slavic nations..but we also say guest and fish stink after 3 days which is so similar to Turkish saying..anyway<personally I prefer ladybirds than invasion of unexpected guests)

     

     

    Yes, it´s tragic the art of being a good guest is not taught.  Most the time it´s too quickly improvised.

    3485.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     26 May 2009 Tue 05:47 pm

    Longest EVER ´Reason to use Turkish Class´   lol

     

    http://www.turkishclass.com/user_zeynep

     

     



    Edited (5/26/2009) by lady in red

    3486.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 May 2009 Tue 07:26 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Longest EVER ´Reason to use Turkish Class´   lol

     

    http://www.turkishclass.com/user_zeynep

     

     

     

     Ok, and being an admin it is your task to tell us all what that reason is.... (I guess you´ll have that text translated within an hour or so? <whistle> )

    3487.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     26 May 2009 Tue 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Ok, and being an admin it is your task to tell us all what that reason is.... (I guess you´ll have that text translated within an hour or so? <whistle> )

     

     Laugh at

    3488.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 May 2009 Tue 08:17 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     Laugh at

     

     Why laughing? Isn´t it a piece of cake for you? Unsure

    3489.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     26 May 2009 Tue 08:28 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    ...a little bird who couldn´t stay away for long!  lol lol

     

     So who may this little birdy be?Confused

    3490.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     29 May 2009 Fri 12:26 am

    Toddler shoots brother dead

    A three-year-old girl shot her two-year-old brother dead after finding a gun hidden under a mattress. Skip related content

    The accidental shooting took place on Wednesday afternoon in Bakersfield, California. The boy was rushed to a nearby hospital but died of a wound to his chest.

    Under state law, the parents of the dead infant could be prosecuted for not ensuring that the firearm was stored where it could not be accessed by their children.

    An investigation concluded that the girl had taken the gun - a .45 calibre semiautomatic handgun - from her parents´ bedroom, where it had been stuffed underneath the mattress.

    The children´s mother was at home at the time of the incident but was in another part of the house, while her husband was at work.

    Sgt Greg Terry of Bakersfield Police said: "It appears to be a horrible accident - I cannot imagine what the family is going through."

    Under Californian law, all gun owners must ensure that their weapons are stored in a way so that children cannot access them. A police investigation is under way

     

    The presence of guns just breeds violence even in this ´innocent´ tragic event

    3491.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 May 2009 Fri 04:16 am

    That´s awful, too often are parents irresponsible and leave children unattended. just think about Tyson´s daughter. Teas will probably bash me for that but I think the right to bear arms should be abolished.

    Quoting lessluv

    Toddler shoots brother dead

    3492.       libralady
    5152 posts
     29 May 2009 Fri 09:02 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    That´s awful, too often are parents irresponsible and leave children unattended. just think about Tyson´s daughter. Teas will probably bash me for that but I think the right to bear arms should be abolished.

    Quoting lessluv

    Toddler shoots brother dead

     

     I couldn´t agree more, but all it does is send it underground - those who want guns will always get them. 

     

    This is a tragic case..

    3493.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 May 2009 Fri 01:34 pm

    Fair point, LL. Still, it´s hard for me to imagine a three-year-old buying a gun from a dealer

    3494.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     29 May 2009 Fri 07:20 pm

    Quote:

    Teas will probably bash me for that but I think the right to bear arms should be abolished.

     

     

    No bashing...Big smile  I can respect your opinion on the matter.  I tend to think these parents should be punished, however with that being said I don´t know what punishment could be worse than loosing a child.    

     

    If you have ever felt your life threatened or feared your saftey, you may think differently about the right to own a gun or maybe not.   There are so many carefless acts of recklessness that if people used them and stored them properly you wouldnt have so many fatalities.  I t´s like  driving your vehicle and causing a fatal accident.  All the deaths that occur out of random acts of stupidity by humans.

    3495.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     31 May 2009 Sun 01:12 pm

    Alcoholics

     

    Cancer Sufferer Set To Win Bet On Own Life

    A man with terminal cancer is set to win thousands of pounds after betting he would not die before June.

    Jon Matthews will collect £5,000 from bookmakers tomorrow after beating the odds of surviving.

    The 59-year-old was diagnosed with a cancer linked to asbestos, called mesothelioma, in 2006

    He scooped £5,000 on June 1 2008 after placing a bet with William Hill that he would not be dead.

    He made a further wager that he would live beyond June 1 this year.

    Mr Matthews, from Milton Keynes, said: "I think I´m the first person in the world to bet on my own life."

    The widower was told by Harefield Hospital in Middlesex their longest surviving patient with mesothelioma lasted 25 months after diagnosis.

    Mr Matthews has had the cancer for 38 months.

    "When I was diagnosed I was told mesothelioma was a death sentence," he said.

    "I wasn´t that fussed because everyone has to die some time.

    But the interesting thing for me was how long it would take, would it take weeks or years," he explained.

    If he survives until June 2010 he is in line for £10,000 more after placing another bet.

    He plans to donate most of his winnings to cancer charities.

    "Never in 30 years in the business have I been so pleased to pay a winning client £10,000, with, I trust, a further £10,000 to come next year," William Hill spokesman Graham Sharpe said.

     

     

    Good on him!!! new meaning to the saying ......bet your life on it!!Big smile

     

    3496.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     31 May 2009 Sun 11:40 pm

    The longest snake (over 50ft) died, the video is a must-see:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqg3Pg2M9WU
    lol lol lol

    3497.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     01 Jun 2009 Mon 03:57 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    The longest snake (over 50ft) died, the video is a must-see:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqg3Pg2M9WU
    lol lol lol

     

     I won´t watch the video...I despise snakes. ScaredThe less snakes on this planet the better we are off.Big smile

    3498.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     01 Jun 2009 Mon 04:27 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     I won´t watch the video...I despise snakes. ScaredThe less snakes on this planet the better we are off.Big smile

     

    Oh Teas, but it´s funny. lol lol

     



    Edited (6/1/2009) by Trudy

    3499.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     01 Jun 2009 Mon 06:15 pm

    Baby dies after nearly being buried alive 
    A newborn boy who had been pronounced dead by a hospital in the western province of Balýkesir barely escaped being buried alive after his mother noticed that he was breathing. The baby, however, lost his life five hours after he was hospitalized again. One of Hatice Bölme´s twin boys, which she conceived through in vitro fertilization after a nine years of fertility treatments, died immediately after he was born at the Balýkesir Maternity Hospital last week. The other baby, named Halil, who had been placed in an incubator, was pronounced dead 36 hours after his birth. Notified about the death of his son, Hüseyin Bölme said: “I went to the hospital and received my son´s death certificate. They handed me the baby´s body in a paper box. It was 2 p.m. when I got the body of my son from the hospital, and it was 4 p.m. when I arrived home after buying the necessary things for the funeral. My wife wanted to see our baby and when she looked at him, she noticed that he was breathing. We immediately took him to a nearby hospital. After two hours of treatment there, we took him to Bursa in an ambulance. The doctor there told me that our baby´s lungs were damaged because he could not breathe properly outside the incubator. He said he would do his best to save our baby´s life but we lost him in the end.”

     

    Bölme said he would file a criminal complaint against the hospital that pronounced his son dead while he was still alive. “If we had not noticed it, we would have buried him alive,” he said. The Health Ministry has launched an investigation into the incident.

     

    Source: Zaman, 1/6/9

     

    ************

    A tragedy for the parents, an enormous mistake of the hospital.

    3500.       libralady
    5152 posts
     01 Jun 2009 Mon 07:01 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    The longest snake (over 50ft) died, the video is a must-see:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqg3Pg2M9WU
    lol lol lol

     

     No thank you! I am with Teas on this one!  The world would be a far nicer place with out snakes Big smile

    3501.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     01 Jun 2009 Mon 08:31 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     No thank you! I am with Teas on this one!  The world would be a far nicer place with out snakes Big smile

     

     No-one who dares to look at the picture of a snake? Laugh at

    3502.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Jun 2009 Mon 10:53 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     No-one who dares to look at the picture of a snake? Laugh at

     

    No need to familiarize myself with another snake....I deal with them all the time.....more than I like.

    3503.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 12:22 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     No-one who dares to look at the picture of a snake? Laugh at

     

     Laugh atha ha you evil cloggie!

    3504.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 12:40 am

     

    Quoting alameda

    No need to familiarize myself with another snake....I deal with them all the time.....more than I like.

     

    yeah... same here.. I mean only about the first part though,  don´t see snakes ´all the time´, and I prefer to keep it that way.

    3505.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 01:47 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     Laugh atha ha you evil cloggie!

     

     Yes...... (but still no-one dares.... too bad!) lol lol

    3506.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 01:51 am

    Susan Boyle stirred a lot of controversy in the UK because she is too unattractive to have a beautiful voice!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvBkTmDWBA

     

    The sicko media culture managed to convince everybody that only porn star-looking people are successful or talented! You crazy?Scared

    3507.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 01:55 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Susan Boyle stirred a lot of controversy in the UK because she is too unattractive to have a beautiful voice!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvBkTmDWBA

     

    The sicko media culture managed to convince everybody that only porn star-looking people are successful or talented! You crazy?Scared

     so sad what happened last night. nothing can prepare a soul for the pressure of being thrust into the spotlight....get well soon....hope she is able to return to a ´normal´ life

     

    3508.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 01:57 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     so sad what happened last night. nothing can prepare a soul for the pressure of being thrust into the spotlight....get well soon....hope she is able to return to a ´normal´ life

     

     

    I´m sure she´ll be just fine. Although if she was a man, she wouldn´t have to deal with any of the pressure she has as a woman....

    3509.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 02:20 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I´m sure she´ll be just fine. Although if she was a man, she wouldn´t have to deal with any of the pressure she has as a woman....

     

     I think in this field, a man is just as open to the same pressures......if you don´t fit a certain profile you just won´t make it...a male example of this pop idol (uk´s) Rick Waller absolutely amazing voice but weighing in at 20 stone plus would never been allowed in our society to have the success of his slimmer, more attractive conterparts.

    (funnily enough I am struggling to find any you tubes with and example of his voice!!!)

     



    Edited (6/2/2009) by lessluv [spelling]

    3510.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 03:01 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    I think in this field, a man is just as open to the same pressures......if you don´t fit a certain profile you just won´t make it...a male example of this pop idol (uk´s) Rick Waller absolutely amazing voice but weighing in at 20 stone plus would never been allowed in our society to have the success of his slimmer, more attractive conterparts.

    (funnily enough I am struggling to find any you tubes with and example of his voice!!!)

     

    That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!

    3511.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 03:12 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!

     rick waller....the best vocal

     

    the winner if this particular competition....Gareth Gates

     

     

    Add on:ooops garth didn´t actually win this one but the only one who is still in public eye now

     

    the winner....will young

     

     



    Edited (6/2/2009) by lessluv [correction]
    Edited (6/2/2009) by lessluv [adding a cheeky will pic]

    3512.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 03:34 am

    sad...

    3513.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 06:08 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!

     

     If I recall correctly the guy who won Britan´s Got Talent last year (or the year before?) was overweight with bad teeth and he received about the same reaction that Susan Boyle got when she walked on stage.  Neither were taken seriously until they sang.   

    3514.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 11:18 am

    nice to see some returning membersBig smile..... any more?

    3515.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 12:49 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     rick waller....the best vocal

     

    the winner if this particular competition....Gareth Gates

     

     

    Add on:ooops garth didn´t actually win this one but the only one who is still in public eye now

     

    the winner....will young

     

     

     

     But Will Young´s gay so he picked up votes from both ´camps´!   Not fair

     

    (Interesting bit of TC/Pop Idol Trivia - Rick Waller went to the same school as my sons!)

    3516.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 12:58 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     But Will Young´s gay so he picked up votes from both ´camps´!   Not fair

     

    (Interesting bit of TC/Pop Idol Trivia - Rick Waller went to the same school as my sons!)

     

     yes there was that ha ha!!

     

    (my interesting trivia I went to the same school as news reader Martyn Lewis

    obviously not at the same time!!)

    3517.       libralady
    5152 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 02:59 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!

     

     Paul Potts and he had his teeth done straight after!  But he got the same response as Susan Boyle to begin with.  It is just unfortunate for her that she was hounded and gowded by journalists until she cracked.  

    3518.       libralady
    5152 posts
     02 Jun 2009 Tue 03:01 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     But Will Young´s gay so he picked up votes from both ´camps´!   Not fair

     

    (Interesting bit of TC/Pop Idol Trivia - Rick Waller went to the same school as my sons!)

     

     But he did not announce he was gay until some time after the event.  And he was a deserved winner..........

    3519.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 12:51 am

    The word of the day..........misogynist Big smile

    3520.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 12:56 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    The word of the day..........misogynist Big smile

     

     Damn, I thought it was "slipper"!!!  I have been slipping it into every possible discussion I have had today.  Head bang

    3521.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 12:59 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Damn, I thought it was "slipper"!!!  I have been slipping it into every possible discussion I have had today.  Head bang

     subliminaly?

     

    3522.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 12:59 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     But he did not announce he was gay until some time after the event.  And he was a deserved winner..........

     

     ...it was a joke...

    3523.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 01:02 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    The word of the day..........misogynist Big smile

     

     My word for tomorrow is going to be....misanthropist...let´s hate everyone in the interests of equality!

     



    Edited (6/3/2009) by lady in red [emphasising ´everyone´ :D]

    3524.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 01:02 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     ...it was a joke...

     it was a cruel one!!

     

    3525.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 01:04 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     it was a cruel one!!

     

     

     oh no it wasn´t!!  You smartass!- and you´re not telling me it wasn´t obvious to everyone he was gay!  (and I know you have experience in these matters lol lol lol )

    3526.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 01:04 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     My word for tomorrow is going to be....misanthropist...let´s hate everyone in the interests of equality!

     

     

     I can´t say that one never mind use it ha ha I am being discriminated against

    3527.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 01:06 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     oh no it wasn´t!!  You smartass!- and you´re not telling me it wasn´t obvious to everyone he was gay!  (and I know you have experience in these matters lol lol lol )

     

     Right that flying dutch(wo)man promised she would not kiss and tell......I will get you just wait til she wakes up!!

    3528.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 01:28 am

    This story broke my heart when I read it Sad

     

    full story

     

    A grieving couple who jumped to their deaths off cliffs at Beachy Head with the body of their dead son were dedicated parents who lived for their boy, friends say.

    The victims have been named as Neil Puttick, 34, his Japanese wife Kazumi, 44, and son Samuel, aged five, of Westbury, Wiltshire.

    Mr and Mrs Puttick jumped off the cliffs with two rucksacks, one containing Samuel´s body and the other carrying toys.

    All three bodies were found about 400ft down the notorious suicide spot, near Eastbourne, East Sussex, on Sunday evening.

    The child died on Friday evening after being discharged from hospital, where he had been treated for meningitis.

    His parents had asked for him to be allowed to come home to die after doctors told them he would not recover from the illness.

    Samuel was confined to a wheelchair following a car crash when he was 18-months-old and his parents looked after him with the help of nurses and carers. He was taken ill with meningitis a week ago.

    Neighbour and friend Sue Capon, who owns Brokerswood Country Park opposite the Putticks´ home, said: "We are all absolutely devastated.

    "It was such a shock today, they were the most dedicated parents you could wish to meet.

    "Sam was adorable, a delight and I feel privileged to have been close to him during his short life.

    "He never complained, he was always happy and full of smiles. He loved tractors and the chickens.

    3529.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 07:53 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     Right that flying dutch(wo)man promised she would not kiss and tell......I will get you just wait til she wakes up!!

     

     What did Deli_Kizin do wrong? lol lol

    3530.       libralady
    5152 posts
     03 Jun 2009 Wed 06:09 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     ...it was a joke...

     

     Did I think it wasn´t??? Unsure 

    3531.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     04 Jun 2009 Thu 01:23 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    This story broke my heart when I read it Sad

     

     

    I feel the same i could never understand people resorting to suicide, but I think I can understand those parents I get aheart attack every time my little one sneezes. I can´t even imagine their grief...life´s cruel

     

    (btw, isn´t meningitis vaccination a standard one in the UK? Here HSE covers 6in1 + meningitis + pneumococcal vaccines)

    3532.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     04 Jun 2009 Thu 08:49 am

    Is sashk the new babyglam? Neutral

    3533.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Jun 2009 Thu 02:22 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    I feel the same i could never understand people resorting to suicide, but I think I can understand those parents I get aheart attack every time my little one sneezes. I can´t even imagine their grief...life´s cruel

     

    (btw, isn´t meningitis vaccination a standard one in the UK? Here HSE covers 6in1 + meningitis + pneumococcal vaccines)

     

     I think there is a meningitis vaccination but not sure when they get it.  But the child was already a quadraplegic so very unwell anyway.  It is one of the sadest stories I have heard lately and I also feel very sorry for those who have to deal with the aftermath of such a tragic event.

    3534.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Jun 2009 Thu 02:24 pm

    Driving in to Leicester yesterday I saw the Google Street car (or one of them) .  Most peculiar thing perched on top of the car.

     

    Have you been Google Street filmed yet?  (in the UK)

    3535.       alameda
    3499 posts
     04 Jun 2009 Thu 09:40 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Driving in to Leicester yesterday I saw the Google Street car (or one of them) .  Most peculiar thing perched on top of the car.

     

    Have you been Google Street filmed yet?  (in the UK)

     

     Well, not in the UK, but here in the US some are not exactly happy having their homes in Google Street.  There are security concerns.  It really is amazing how much detail it shows...what is in your window, your doors....and so on.  I think a challange is in the works. 

    3536.       cedars
    235 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 04:01 pm

    you dont need eyes to see

    Esref Armagan, a painter artist born without eyes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QUOy83po60

    3537.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 04:27 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Is sashk the new babyglam? Neutral

     

     Looks like it Big smile

    3538.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 04:41 pm

     

    Quoting cedars

    you dont need eyes to see

    Esref Armagan, a painter artist born without eyes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QUOy83po60

     

     the human mind is more complex than we give it credit forBig smile

    3539.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 05:02 pm

     

    Quoting cedars

    you dont need eyes to see

    Esref Armagan, a painter artist born without eyes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QUOy83po60

     

     Fascinating!  Thanks for the link.

    3540.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 09:31 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    Driving in to Leicester yesterday I saw the Google Street car (or one of them) .  Most peculiar thing perched on top of the car.

     

    Have you been Google Street filmed yet?  (in the UK)

     

     I´m not sure what this is..can you explain?Confused

    3541.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 10:40 pm

    Hamburger is not a steak!!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3542.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     05 Jun 2009 Fri 10:49 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Hamburger is not a steak!!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Does that mean that McD. is not a real restaurant? Damn.... lol

    3543.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     06 Jun 2009 Sat 03:54 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Hamburger is not a steak!!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     such a random eye catcher........ you never noticed before?

    3544.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     06 Jun 2009 Sat 03:55 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     Does that mean that McD. is not a real restaurant? Damn.... lol

     

     ssssssh, don´t tell the kids <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3545.       libralady
    5152 posts
     07 Jun 2009 Sun 07:17 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     I´m not sure what this is..can you explain?Confused

     

     Google maps are photographing  cities and towns in the UK by driving down the street with a strange camera on the roof of the car.  There has been some problems with it as people have been spotted where they shouldn´t be!!! Confused  The say it is a breach of their privacy.... well it is really and it is a great time waster to, going down a street vitually... So if you click on google maps and then choose the street version you can see what it looks like exactly.  Try Westminster !

    3546.       vineyards
    1954 posts
     08 Jun 2009 Mon 09:43 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Google maps are photographing  cities and towns in the UK by driving down the street with a strange camera on the roof of the car.  There has been some problems with it as people have been spotted where they shouldn´t be!!! Confused  The say it is a breach of their privacy.... well it is really and it is a great time waster to, going down a street vitually... So if you click on google maps and then choose the street version you can see what it looks like exactly.  Try Westminster !

     Well, there are so many other examples to breaches in people´s privacy.  Some of the paparazis could pretty well be in jail if they did not hide behind certain so-called freedoms. The tragic death of Princess Diana is one such example. I know some celebreties are voluntarily giving out their make believe personal secrets to those sharks but as a whole to what extend the whole paparazzi business must be considered in the framework of people´s right to be informed is a question mark. 

     

    As for Google publishing photographs of streets, there seems to be no legal restrictions applying here. It is perfectly legal to take pictures of people in their natural environments. Otherwise, neither movies nor documentaries could be shot since common people are invariably pictured while they are doing their daily tasks. It is indeed bad luck for a married person to be pictured say with his girl friend in a box office smash hit. Whether it would be a spoiler or a a revelation is another subject.

     



    Edited (6/8/2009) by vineyards

    3547.       alameda
    3499 posts
     08 Jun 2009 Mon 06:58 pm

     

    Quoting vineyards

     

     Well, there are so many other examples to breaches in people´s privacy.  Some of the paparazis could pretty well be in jail if they did not hide behind certain so-called freedoms. The tragic death of Princess Diana is one such example. I know some celebreties are voluntarily giving out their make believe personal secrets to those sharks but as a whole to what extend the whole paparazzi business must be considered in the framework of people´s right to be informed is a question mark. 

     

    As for Google publishing photographs of streets, there seems to be no legal restrictions applying here. It is perfectly legal to take pictures of people in their natural environments. Otherwise, neither movies nor documentaries could be shot since common people are invariably pictured while they are doing their daily tasks. It is indeed bad luck for a married person to be pictured say with his girl friend in a box office smash hit. Whether it would be a spoiler or a a revelation is another subject.

     

     

     

    I think some of those paoarazis should be in jail for harassment.  Can anyone who is not a subject of their "hunt" imagine how victimized someone like Diana was?

     

    Good points, it is an interesting prospect.  With Google you can put in an address and take a look at it, zoom in, get different views from other angles.  It certainly facilitates stalking.  I can attest to the fact that Google´s actual address information is not correct, as I checked a few places I know and they had it off....close...but off. 

     

    I know people who had high fences to keep viewers out, but with Google Street View, you can get a view through the fence via a few small spaces.  Maybe people will start building more effective fences....and start wearing chadors....Ninja

     



    Edited (6/8/2009) by alameda [add]

    3548.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     08 Jun 2009 Mon 07:37 pm

    I tried looking this up and it just showed streets to me...hmm, obviously I´m not doing something right.  Confused

    3549.       alameda
    3499 posts
     08 Jun 2009 Mon 07:42 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    I tried looking this up and it just showed streets to me...hmm, obviously I´m not doing something right.  Confused

     

     Put in a street address, choose Google maps, you will get a map of the streets.  You can then choose "street view" to zoom around the area.

    3550.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     09 Jun 2009 Tue 06:05 pm

    Ok, I put my address in but it just shows a satelite picture of my house from when it was built a few years ago.  I zoomed in on my street, but you couldn´t make anything out really.  How disappointing..Confused  I must live in a boring neighborhood..



    Edited (6/9/2009) by teaschip

    3551.       alameda
    3499 posts
     09 Jun 2009 Tue 07:44 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Ok, I put my address in but it just shows a satelite picture of my house from when it was built a few years ago.  I zoomed in on my street, but you couldn´t make anything out really.  How disappointing..Confused  I must live in a boring neighborhood..

     

     It´s a new project, and they have not done everything yet.  Here put in this address: 48 Commerce St, NYC, NY.  It´s not my address, nor do I know anyone there.  I was just playing around in my old neighborhood. 

     

    First you will get a map, then there will be a Street View option.  You can move the little person all around and zoom in.  It´s pretty interesting actually.  You can move along the street.

     

    Play with it, it´s fun.  Every address doesn´t have the zoom option.  Some do, and you can zoom right into the windows, read signs and such. 



    Edited (6/9/2009) by alameda [add]

    3552.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     10 Jun 2009 Wed 12:41 am

    Lucky you, bed Amerikans, when I tried to check out my area all I saw was green, as if I lived in a forrest (which I don´t!).

    3553.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     10 Jun 2009 Wed 12:45 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Lucky you, bed Amerikans, when I tried to check out my area all I saw was green, as if I lived in a forrest (which I don´t!).

     

     ha ha, they´ve barely got analogue there never mind digital and satellite......Roll eyes

    3554.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     10 Jun 2009 Wed 01:58 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     ha ha, they´ve barely got analogue there never mind digital and satellite......Roll eyes

     

    shush! Where´s your local patriotism?

    3555.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     13 Jun 2009 Sat 01:40 am

    A real beauty !

    Princess Fawziya

    Was one of the Egyptian princess, and also was Empress of Ýran.

     

    Empress Fawzia by Kodak Agfa.

     

    Empress Fawzia by Kodak Agfa.

     

    Fawzia in official visit by Kodak Agfa.

     

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96884693@N00/1363560388/in/set-72157604077007828/

     

    Princess Fawziya

    3556.       alameda
    3499 posts
     13 Jun 2009 Sat 02:42 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

    A real beauty !

    Princess Fawziya

    Was one of the Egyptian princess, and also was Empress of Ýran.

     

    Empress Fawzia by Kodak Agfa.

     

    Empress Fawzia by Kodak Agfa.

     

    Fawzia in official visit by Kodak Agfa.

     

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/96884693@N00/1363560388/in/set-72157604077007828/

     

    Princess Fawziya

     

     Yes, she was a real beauty.  In that photo she looks a lot like Heddy Lamarr the inventor of

    Frequency Hopping  Spread-Spectrum technology that has become so important today.

    3557.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Jun 2009 Wed 08:17 pm

    "LEAFLET DISTRIBUTION PUNISHMENT IS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN A FINE"
    Aslihan Limon, the only judge in Arac town of the northern province of Kastamonu, still receives congratulations from across Turkey after she sentenced a man for distributing leaflets that read, "I apologize to my wife and all the residents of Arac for beating my wife." The 28-year-old judge said she protected the honor of women, adding, "I think this punishment is more effective than a fine."

    (From an article in Milliyet - June 16th, 2009)

    3558.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     18 Jun 2009 Thu 02:06 am

    It´s been a while since a thread was locked  lol Laugh at

    3559.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Jun 2009 Thu 03:59 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    It´s been a while since a thread was locked  lol Laugh at

     

    isn´t it exciting? lol

    3560.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     18 Jun 2009 Thu 11:00 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    isn´t it exciting? lol

     

     You should get out more!  Laugh at

    3561.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Jun 2009 Mon 07:48 pm

    Man sentenced to give wife flowers for five months.


    A man who reportedly beat his wife was sentenced by a Diyarbakýr court to give flowers to his wife once a week for five months. The Diyarbakýr First Criminal Court of First Instance ruled that Hayrettin Çetintaþ must present his wife with a bouquet of flowers once a week for five months. Çetintaþ´s wife filed a lawsuit against her husband complaining he frequently beat her, according to the Anatolia news agency.

     

    During Saturday´s hearing, Çetintaþ defended himself, saying that he beat his wife because she was not very helpful with daily tasks. He also said he had a second wife, who he married through a religious marriage (imam nikahý). “I have not been married to my second wife for long. In the family, we sometimes have problems. I don´t know whether it is because I am newly married; my second wife is a very easygoing person. My first wife, however, aggravates me so much. I am working as a doorman, and I get very tired during the day. I ask my wives to help me, but my first wife demands too many things from me: She asks me to rent her a new house. I may have been violent to my first wife and son,” Çetintaþ stated.

     

    The judge asked Çetintaþ whether he had ever presented flowers to his wife, a question to which he replied: “I don´t know the birthday of my first wife or when we got married. I´ve never given flowers to her, either.” On hearing this, the judge ordered Çetintaþ to give a bouquet of flowers to his first wife once a week for five months. He also ordered the defendant to read five books on child development in five months, for beating his son.

     

    Source
    ************

    Nice try from this judge, but will it work? I doubt it. A guy stupid enough to beat his wife and kid will remain stupid!

    3562.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     22 Jun 2009 Mon 09:20 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Man sentenced to give wife flowers for five months.


    A man who reportedly beat his wife was sentenced by a Diyarbakýr court to give flowers to his wife once a week for five months. The Diyarbakýr First Criminal Court of First Instance ruled that Hayrettin Çetintaþ must present his wife with a bouquet of flowers once a week for five months. Çetintaþ´s wife filed a lawsuit against her husband complaining he frequently beat her, according to the Anatolia news agency.

     

    During Saturday´s hearing, Çetintaþ defended himself, saying that he beat his wife because she was not very helpful with daily tasks. He also said he had a second wife, who he married through a religious marriage (imam nikahý. “I have not been married to my second wife for long. In the family, we sometimes have problems. I don´t know whether it is because I am newly married; my second wife is a very easygoing person. My first wife, however, aggravates me so much. I am working as a doorman, and I get very tired during the day. I ask my wives to help me, but my first wife demands too many things from me: She asks me to rent her a new house. I may have been violent to my first wife and son,” Çetintaþ stated.

     

    The judge asked Çetintaþ whether he had ever presented flowers to his wife, a question to which he replied: “I don´t know the birthday of my first wife or when we got married. I´ve never given flowers to her, either.” On hearing this, the judge ordered Çetintaþ to give a bouquet of flowers to his first wife once a week for five months. He also ordered the defendant to read five books on child development in five months, for beating his son.

     

    Source
    ************

    Nice try from this judge, but will it work? I doubt it. A guy stupid enough to beat his wife and kid will remain stupid!

     

     So he beats his wife and children and has to pay restitution by sending flowers and reading books..  I´m sure this method will definately deter him from committing the same acts.You crazy?

     

    3563.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     22 Jun 2009 Mon 09:25 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Man sentenced to give wife flowers for five months.

     

    Nice try from this judge, but will it work? I doubt it. A guy stupid enough to beat his wife and kid will remain stupid!

     

     Hell NO it won´t work!  That judge should be beaten and then maybe he will rethink the so-called punishment he gives to low-life, scum bags who beat women and children.

    3564.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Jun 2009 Tue 05:24 am

    Little Known Fact
    The Turks first gave the Dutch their famous tulips that started the craze for the flower in England and the Netherlands. The bulbs were brought to Vienna from Istanbul in the 1500s and they were an instance hit.Laugh at

     

    From this little article

    3565.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Jun 2009 Tue 05:31 am

    Sad

     

    Awful news

     

    Two rush-hour subway trains have collided in Washington DC, killing at least six people and injuring up to 70 others, according to officials.

    Carriages of one train came to rest on top of the other after hitting it from behind, although the cause is unclear.

    The female driver of one of the trains is among the dead.

    The crash - the worst in 33 years of the Metro system - happened above ground between Fort Totten and Takoma Park at 1700 local time (2200 BST).

    3566.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     23 Jun 2009 Tue 07:36 pm

    Chris Brown pleads guilty on assualt charges...but gets 180 days of garbage picking.  Sometimes or should I say most of the time I wonder about our court system.  I sit here and criticize the Turkish courts when it comes to men beating their wives.  However, it appears our courts are not much better.

     

    I don´t understand how someone can beat a women and threaten to kill her, then get sentensed to 180 days of community service.  While we have non violent offenders (drug users) in prison.  Where is the commen sense in our courts.  An even worse slap in the face, is that a female judge accepted this plea bargain.Head bang

     

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/22/chris.brown.hearing/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    3567.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Jun 2009 Tue 10:09 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Chris Brown pleads guilty on assualt charges...but gets 180 days of garbage picking.  Sometimes or should I say most of the time I wonder about our court system.  I sit here and criticize the Turkish courts when it comes to men beating their wives.  However, it appears our courts are not much better.

     

    I don´t understand how someone can beat a women and threaten to kill her, then get sentensed to 180 days of community service.  While we have non violent offenders (drug users) in prison.  Where is the commen sense in our courts.  An even worse slap in the face, is that a female judge accepted this plea bargain.Head bang

     

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/22/chris.brown.hearing/index.html?section=cnn_latest

     

     Asolutely ridiculous....hmmm it´s definately a case of who you know and how much you can pay!!

    3568.       doudi94
    845 posts
     26 Jun 2009 Fri 03:38 am

    what cayght MY eye today was every single status on FB and PM on MSN saying RIP to Michael JAckson- I mean - why are u so sad about the guy- i mean in the end all he was envolved in were scandals and courtrooms! The guy actually kinda disgusted me cause he changed his skin color and all the plastic surgeries and stuff but I mean , people-GET OVER IT!!!!

    I dunno-maybe my words wouldve been different if i was growing up in the 80´s :S



    Edited (6/26/2009) by doudi94

    3569.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     27 Jun 2009 Sat 09:34 pm

     

    Quoting doudi94

    what cayght MY eye today was every single status on FB and PM on MSN saying RIP to Michael JAckson- I mean - why are u so sad about the guy- i mean in the end all he was envolved in were scandals and courtrooms! The guy actually kinda disgusted me cause he changed his skin color and all the plastic surgeries and stuff but I mean , people-GET OVER IT!!!!

    I dunno-maybe my words wouldve been different if i was growing up in the 80´s :S

     

    Couldn´t agree more. His success made him an insane, stupid, self-centered person. He chose to spend his fortune on getting more freaky instead of helping others. There are people in the world whose deaths are truly sad - like the Palestinian families massacred by the Israelis, but we do not mourn those, instead we mourn a freak who had a life of privilage (for the most part!) and died in the comfort of his home at the age of 50!!

    3570.       vineyards
    1954 posts
     28 Jun 2009 Sun 04:02 am

     For me, all deaths are sad. Michael Jackson was  known by billions of people. Everyone of those people heard his songs in a personal context, voluntarily bought his albums making him a big star and get him to enjoy a rich man´s life which unfortunately had certain mistakes, omissions  or sins in it just like everyone of us.

     

    It is easy to give a brief account of someone´s life. Among many gifted musicians of his genre he stood out and remained that way for a long while. Although his songs no longer appeal to me, I appreciate his vocal technique and energy. It is not easy to be like Michael Jackson, people who were a lot more talented than us tried their chance but they could not clinch their names in the history of pop music as successfully as he did.

     

    Not just Michael Jackson, everyone deserves to be felt sorry about when he is dead. The loss of a man is the loss of the entire universe from a dead man´s point of view. 

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Couldn´t agree more. His success made him an insane, stupid, self-centered person. He chose to spend his fortune on getting more freaky instead of helping others. There are people in the world whose deaths are truly sad - like the Palestinian families massacred by the Israelis, but we do not mourn those, instead we mourn a freak who had a life of privilage (for the most part!) and died in the comfort of his home at the age of 50!!

     

     



    Edited (6/28/2009) by vineyards

    3571.       doudi94
    845 posts
     28 Jun 2009 Sun 06:07 am

     

    Quoting vineyards

     For me, all deaths are sad. Michael Jackson was  known by billions of people. Everyone of those people heard his songs in a personal context, voluntarily bought his albums making him a big star and get him to enjoy a rich man´s life which unfortunately had certain mistakes, omissions  or sins in it just like everyone of us.

     

    It is easy to give a brief account of someone´s life. Among many gifted musicians of his genre he stood out and remained that way for a long while. Although his songs no longer appeal to me, I appreciate his vocal technique and energy. It is not easy to be like Michael Jackson, people who were a lot more talented than us tried their chance but they could not clinch their names in the history of pop music as successfully as he did.

     

    Not just Michael Jackson, everyone deserves to be felt sorry about when he is dead. The loss of a man is the loss of the entire universe from a dead man´s point of view. 

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Couldn´t agree more. His success made him an insane, stupid, self-centered person. He chose to spend his fortune on getting more freaky instead of helping others. There are people in the world whose deaths are truly sad - like the Palestinian families massacred by the Israelis, but we do not mourn those, instead we mourn a freak who had a life of privilage (for the most part!) and died in the comfort of his home at the age of 50!!

     

     

     wooooooooow...thats so deep or maybe im just shallow-dunno-but i liked it

    anyway, the person im truly sorry for is farrah fawcett-really she was so...i dunno.... but u feel peace when u look at her face-and she was so strong and optimistic and died from cancer and...... im really sad she died :S:S

     

    3572.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     28 Jun 2009 Sun 09:59 pm

    Quote:

    wooooooooow...thats so deep or maybe im just shallow-dunno-but i liked it

    anyway, the person im truly sorry for is farrah fawcett-really she was so...i dunno.... but u feel peace when u look at her face-and she was so strong and optimistic and died from cancer and...... im really sad she died :S:S

     

     

    I also feel sad for Farrah Fawcett, clearly this was not her doing.  When you look at people like Jimmy Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson and others who contribute to their own death I think the sympathy is a little different, than someone who like Farrah Fawcett had no control over her destiny.  However, it´s still sad to see someone that had an impact on you, musically or personally destory their life and ultimately die because of it.

     

    The saddest part for all of these icons are the people around them who enabled them.  Clearly Michael Jackson was not in his right mind and the people around him continued to feed him drugs, instead of getting him the help he needed.  Same thing that happened to Elivs Presley and Anna Nicole Smith.  Sad

    3573.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     29 Jun 2009 Mon 06:58 pm

    A new column from themissinghandsom!   Good to see him back

    3574.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     29 Jun 2009 Mon 07:20 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    A new column from themissinghandsom!   Good to see him back

     

     Glad to see the black sea boys didn´t get him...Great to see you back friend...Big smile

    3575.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     08 Jul 2009 Wed 11:51 am

    "No matter how busy you may think you are, you must find time for reading, or surrender yourself to self-chosen ignorance." Confucius

    3576.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Jul 2009 Thu 08:40 pm

     

    woohoo, she´s back Big smile

    3577.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     09 Jul 2009 Thu 09:05 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

    woohoo, she´s back Big smile

     who? Unsure

     

    3578.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Jul 2009 Thu 11:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     who? Unsure

     

     

     The AWOL Admin

    3579.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     09 Jul 2009 Thu 11:28 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     The AWOL Admin

     

     I don´t think that she is as AWOL as she seems!  I would bet money that she is in her stealth burka 90% of the time!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)Ninja

    3580.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     09 Jul 2009 Thu 11:54 pm

    What´s an AWOL Admin? Unsure

     

    Elisabeth, we only pose for pictures in our best outfits!! Super cool

    3581.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     10 Jul 2009 Fri 12:13 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    What´s an AWOL Admin? Unsure

     

    Elisabeth, we only pose for pictures in our best outfits!! Super cool

     

     well if you didn´t grant her leave.... then she must be Absent WithOut Leave

    3582.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     10 Jul 2009 Fri 04:40 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

     well if you didn´t grant her leave.... then she must be Absent WithOut Leave

     

    Aaahhh.. thanks! She is so naughty!!

    3583.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     14 Jul 2009 Tue 01:33 am

    DK is back but Kittie and LiR are gone. A conspiracy? I´m sure these 3 are up to something Roll eyes



    Edited (7/14/2009) by Daydreamer [I won´t disclose that]

    3584.       Deli_kizin
    6376 posts
     14 Jul 2009 Tue 02:12 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    DK is back but Kittie and LiR are gone. A conspiracy? I´m sure these 3 are up to something Roll eyes

     

     Nah. They just realized no one can and should come between DD and DK Angel

    3585.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     14 Jul 2009 Tue 11:33 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    DK is back but Kittie and LiR are gone. A conspiracy? I´m sure these 3 are up to something Roll eyes

     

     Ninja

    3586.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     14 Jul 2009 Tue 07:56 pm

    Halloween and Fall decorations are already out!  A sign that summer is coming to an end here..Cry

    3587.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Jul 2009 Tue 11:15 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Halloween and Fall decorations are already out!  A sign that summer is coming to an end here..Cry

     

     It´s actually a sign that retailers are just nuts!  Christmas decorations will be out in September!

     

    Anyway, it´s so hot here in Texas, I can only wish summer was over!

    3588.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     15 Jul 2009 Wed 12:46 am

    I can´t make up my mind if this is cute or disturbingUnsure

     

    Roller Babies

    3589.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Jul 2009 Wed 12:53 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Anyway, it´s so hot here in Texas, I can only wish summer was over!

     

    Yeah, because your winters are better then our summers!! I will get you

    3590.       Deli_kizin
    6376 posts
     15 Jul 2009 Wed 01:26 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    I can´t make up my mind if this is cute or disturbingUnsure

     

    Roller Babies

     

     I´m just glad its animated!

    3591.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jul 2009 Wed 01:51 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    I can´t make up my mind if this is cute or disturbingUnsure

     

    Roller Babies

     

     I think it´s quite cute - and it´s certainly clever!  (also glad it gave me another chance to see the wonderful ´Charlie bit my finger - again!´ clip



    Edited (7/15/2009) by lady in red

    3592.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     15 Jul 2009 Wed 03:05 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

     I think it´s quite cute - and it´s certainly clever!  (also glad it gave me another chance to see the wonderful ´Charlie bit my finger - again!´ clip

     

     I love it!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3593.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     21 Jul 2009 Tue 04:49 am

    Not new news but the first I´ve seen of it

     

    The giant 6ft cow that is as big as a small elephant

    Chilli the giant bullock

     

    His name is Chilli and he´s described as a gentle giant.

    Which is just as well for his handler, Tara Nirula, pictured by his side.

     

    His owners have contacted the Guinness Book of Records who are currently assessing his credentials and comparing them to other big bovines.

    The black and white Friesian bullock weighs well over a ton and at the same height as a small elephant, casts a shadow over his cattle companions who are about 5ft.

     

    Chilli the giant bullock stands at 6ft 6ins and weighs well over a ton

    Despite his grand stature, Chilli only grazes on grass during the day and enjoys the occasional swede as a treat.

    The heifer, who is almost as high as he is long, lives at the Ferne Animal Sanctuary in Chard, Somerset, after he was left on their doorstep aged just six-days-old.

    Nine years on, Chilli has kept on growing, and staff believe the giant will smash a record for Britain´s tallest ever cow.

    Naomi Clarke, manager at the sanctuary, said: "As Chilli was growing up we began noticing that he was bigger than our other cows.



    Read more:

     

    Can you just imagine the look on the poor cows´ faces when that comes ambling into their meadowWhat the hell!

    3594.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     21 Jul 2009 Tue 08:43 pm

    The "tami-esque" posts........

    3595.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 12:58 am

    oooooh

     

    Monster Jellyfish Take Aim at Japan

     

     

     

    Anyone heard from Trudy lately Big smile

    3596.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 03:44 am

    Anti-Islam church sign stirs up community outrage

    The Dove World Outreach Center in northwest Gainesville posted a sign that says "Islam is of the devil."

    Those behind a sign posted in front of their northwest Gainesville church, proclaiming in red letters "Islam is of the devil," say it´s a way to express their religious beliefs and is a message of "a great act of love."

    Some living near the Dove World Outreach Center, however, are outraged and disappointed with the sign´s message, which has sparked protests and acts of vandalism at the church since it was posted over the weekend.

    http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090708/ARTICLES/907081008

     

    And as a result ...

    Church Sign Says ´Islam is of the Devil´: Anti-Islam church sign stirs up community outrage

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlZuco4zOew&feature=channel

    And protests from all people actually, Muslims, Christians, Jewish,..etc... the community

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65DqeEoE6qE&NR=1

     

    What i dont understand how this would be a massage of love and peace as people at the Church claim?!

     



    Edited (7/23/2009) by CANLI

    3597.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 05:11 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    And protests from all people actually, Muslims, Christians, Jewish,..etc... the community

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65DqeEoE6qE&NR=1

     

    What i dont understand how this would be a massage of love and peace as people at the Church claim?!

     

     I am shocked that you seem so surprised!  Yes, Canli, most Christians, Jews, PEOPLE, know that hate is wrong.  This church´s concept of love and peace is as warped as ANY extremist groups views!

     



    Edited (7/23/2009) by Elisabeth

    3598.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 08:11 pm

    Pay attention

     

    At least 66 people have been injured in a mass pile-up involving 259 cars on a motorway in north Germany, police say.

    Ten people are said to be fighting for their lives in hospital after the series of crashes on the A2 between Hanover and Peine on Sunday evening.

    Police said the pile-up was believed to have been caused by a combination of heavy rain and excessive speed.

    Rescue workers were busy throughout the night treating the injured and clearing damaged cars from the motorway.

    "I have not seen anything like this before. I have seen many accidents but never a pile-up this size," said firefighter Klaus Wulfes.

    One of the drivers said his car had been hit from behind and pushed into a ditch, from which his family were able to escape unharmed.

    "All I did was turn around to check on my little son, our son. That was my only thought," he told the Reuters news agency.

     

    Scared

    3599.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 10:07 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

    Pay attention

     

    At least 66 people have been injured in a mass pile-up involving 259 cars on a motorway in north Germany, police say.

    Ten people are said to be fighting for their lives in hospital after the series of crashes on the A2 between Hanover and Peine on Sunday evening.

    Police said the pile-up was believed to have been caused by a combination of heavy rain and excessive speed.

    Rescue workers were busy throughout the night treating the injured and clearing damaged cars from the motorway.

    "I have not seen anything like this before. I have seen many accidents but never a pile-up this size," said firefighter Klaus Wulfes.

    One of the drivers said his car had been hit from behind and pushed into a ditch, from which his family were able to escape unharmed.

    "All I did was turn around to check on my little son, our son. That was my only thought," he told the Reuters news agency.

     

    Scared

     

     Oh, that´s terrible.Sad

    3600.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 10:20 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     I am shocked that you seem so surprised!  Yes, Canli, most Christians, Jews, PEOPLE, know that hate is wrong.  This church´s concept of love and peace is as warped as ANY extremist groups views!

     

     

     No im not surprised because of that..its really a good thing that people can live and are living peacefuly together

    What im surprised and shocked at is the Church ...they said they spread love, and they wanted to teach that to people, but seems people are the one who should teach them that and know about peace more than church does !

    3601.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 10:50 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

    Anti-Islam church sign stirs up community outrage

    The Dove World Outreach Center in northwest Gainesville posted a sign that says "Islam is of the devil."

    Those behind a sign posted in front of their northwest Gainesville church, proclaiming in red letters "Islam is of the devil," say it´s a way to express their religious beliefs and is a message of "a great act of love."

    Some living near the Dove World Outreach Center, however, are outraged and disappointed with the sign´s message, which has sparked protests and acts of vandalism at the church since it was posted over the weekend.

    http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090708/ARTICLES/907081008

     

    And as a result ...

    Church Sign Says ´Islam is of the Devil´: Anti-Islam church sign stirs up community outrage

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlZuco4zOew&feature=channel

    And protests from all people actually, Muslims, Christians, Jewish,..etc... the community

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65DqeEoE6qE&NR=1

     

    What i dont understand how this would be a massage of love and peace as people at the Church claim?!

     

     

    Double standards, Canli. You are silent when Islamic hatred is mentioned. I can quote examples of massive islamic demonstrations full of hatred and violence, and I can imagine you defending them. Isn´t Islam supposed to spread peace and love as well? As long as I see double standards like that, I will not sympatize with you (I will still condemn hatred and stupidity, but I am fully aware that it runs among your people very well too). I am not going to sympatize with you until you start treating all people equally -- violence and hatred of muslims against non-muslims is equally wrong as violence and hatred of non-muslims against muslims.

    3602.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Jul 2009 Thu 11:30 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     Double standards, Canli. You are silent when Islamic hatred is mentioned. I can quote examples of massive islamic demonstrations full of hatred and violence, and I can imagine you defending them. Isn´t Islam supposed to spread peace and love as well? As long as I see double standards like that, I will not sympatize with you (I will still condemn hatred and stupidity, but I am fully aware that it runs among your people very well too). I am not going to sympatize with you until you start treating all people equally -- violence and hatred of muslims against non-muslims is equally wrong as violence and hatred of non-muslims against muslims.

     

     Actually cat, you´ in general´ do enough, even you dont even give us that chance to sympatize with you!

    You condemn, judge us from the start, and your post is a prove of that, so was your comment at Marwa´s death too.

    Ý dont recall that i ever encourage any islamic hatred action nor supported them so that would you accuse me of double standerd...have i ?!

    And i also didnt ask that you express your sympathy or not, you can even support it ...it´s actually your business.

    Ý dont understand why do you attack me for , i didnt say violence against none muslims is acceptable But on the other hand you justify violence when done by your people always same way!

    My comment/post was about the church action there vs people action

    Hmmmm which i dont know would i call them my people or your people by your standerds...they were Muslims, Christians, Jewish..ect 

    So i must ask, what did you mean by ´my people?´

     

    3603.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Jul 2009 Fri 02:04 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Actually cat, you´ in general´ do enough, even you dont even give us that chance to sympatize with you!

    You condemn, judge us from the start, and your post is a prove of that, so was your comment at Marwa´s death too.

    Ý dont recall that i ever encourage any islamic hatred action nor supported them so that would you accuse me of double standerd...have i ?!

    And i also didnt ask that you express your sympathy or not, you can even support it ...it´s actually your business.

    Ý dont understand why do you attack me for , i didnt say violence against none muslims is acceptable But on the other hand you justify violence when done by your people always same way!

    My comment/post was about the church action there vs people action

    Hmmmm which i dont know would i call them my people or your people by your standerds...they were Muslims, Christians, Jewish..ect 

    So i must ask, what did you mean by ´my people?´

     

     

    Canli, maybe I am very wrong about you, for which I apologize, but I think I remember you defending or being silent on news of crimes of Muslims. That is my only point.

     

    I was trying to say something similar to Elizabeth, where she said:

     

    "My heart is troubled though, Canli.....troubled that this site is used as a tool, not to discuss a hate crime and how terrible it is, but for certain groups to "prove" how they are being treated badly, misunderstood, ect......I am sure if I googled "hate crimes against Christians" (or against women, or against anyone) I would find some horrible article to "prove" that the world hates Christians (or whoever) and we could argue about how the world hates Muslims more....but enough already."

     

    I feel the same way as she does -- that it´s about being Muslim, not about being a human that matters here most. Which is why I said that if it´s the other way round, some people find it acceptable, or defensible when a crime happens and it´s committed by a Muslim person!!

    You should criticize this abhorrent event on teh base of it being a hate crime against human people, whether they were muslim or not!

     

    That point aside, I think that we have a clear example here of how intolerant and judgmental religions are -- examples like this one are common across all religions. It is a shame that our common humanity is not standing above these religious divisions.



    Edited (7/24/2009) by catwoman

    3604.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     28 Jul 2009 Tue 07:40 pm

    Monster 20 ft waves hitting California...Oh I hope GG didn´t go out boogie boarding today..Unsure  Has anyone heard from her?

    3605.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     28 Jul 2009 Tue 07:44 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    Monster 20 ft waves hitting California...Oh I hope GG didn´t go out boogie boarding today..Unsure  Has anyone heard from her?

     

     You know that Tuesday is her sky diving day!!!!

    3606.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     28 Jul 2009 Tue 09:20 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     You know that Tuesday is her sky diving day!!!!

     

     I was hoping it was the day she usually goes sky diving or four wheeling.  Thursday´s must be boogie boarding and Friday´s big game fishing.   Did you see her last month on the cover of Game & Fish?Big smile  She is such the athlete...you make us proud GG.Flowers

     

    California Game & Fish (1 year) Magazine Subscriptions

    3607.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Jul 2009 Tue 10:44 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     You know that Tuesday is her sky diving day!!!!

     

     Yes, it is sky diving day but those waves were so rad I just had to hit the surf too, so I glided my chute right down onto my boogie board and road the tide!  Awesome!  Razz

    3608.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     29 Jul 2009 Wed 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     I was hoping it was the day she usually goes sky diving or four wheeling.  Thursday´s must be boogie boarding and Friday´s big game fishing.   Did you see her last month on the cover of Game & Fish?Big smile  She is such the athlete...you make us proud GG.Flowers

     

     

     

     After reading about all these exciting hobbies you ladies are participatiing in I thought it was time to try some thing new and exciting........

     

    woohoo

     

    may need a practice partner hee heeShy

     

     

    3609.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Jul 2009 Wed 08:44 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     After reading about all these exciting hobbies you ladies are participatiing in I thought it was time to try some thing new and exciting........

     

    woohoo

     

    may need a practice partner hee heeShy

     

     

     

     You can always ask Mr. Lessluv, can´t you? lol

    3610.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     29 Jul 2009 Wed 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     You can always ask Mr. Lessluv, can´t you? lol

     

     He´s not too keen on water sports Angel

    3611.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     29 Jul 2009 Wed 10:45 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     After reading about all these exciting hobbies you ladies are participatiing in I thought it was time to try some thing new and exciting........

     

    woohoo

     

    may need a practice partner hee heeShy

     

     

     This is not as fun as it looks....you can ask Mr. Elisabeth!Shy

     

    3612.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Jul 2009 Wed 10:47 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     This is not as fun as it looks....you can ask Mr. Elisabeth!Shy

     

     

     What´s his email address? lol lol

    3613.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     29 Jul 2009 Wed 11:30 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     He´s not too keen on water sports Angel

     

    Laugh at

    3614.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Jul 2009 Thu 10:47 pm

    There is a huge and hideous (and did I mention huge?) spider hanging in a web just outside my office window.  It´s a beautiful day and I keep glancing out my window but everytime I d0 that monster falls right in my line of sight.  I HATE spiders!  Rant

    3615.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     30 Jul 2009 Thu 10:54 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    There is a huge and hideous (and did I mention huge?) spider hanging in a web just outside my office window.  It´s a beautiful day and I keep glancing out my window but everytime I d0 that monster falls right in my line of sight.  I HATE spiders!  Rant

     

     Something like this ´cutie´ you mean:

     

     

    lol lol

    3616.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     31 Jul 2009 Fri 02:01 pm

    Woman burned with bleach after row

    A mother-of-two has been seriously burned after being attacked with bleach in front of her family.

    I´m almost lost for words here - how did we get into this state in Britain?  Sad  

    Full story

    3617.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     31 Jul 2009 Fri 02:01 pm

    Woman burned with bleach after row

    A mother-of-two has been seriously burned after being attacked with bleach in front of her family.

    I´m almost lost for words here - how did we get into this state in Britain?  Sad  

    Full story

    3618.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     31 Jul 2009 Fri 06:07 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Woman burned with bleach after row
    A mother-of-two has been seriously burned after being attacked with bleach in front of her family.
    I´m almost lost for words here - how did we get into this state in Britain?  Sad  
    Full story

     

     I think this isn´t unique to Britain....it seems the whole world has gone mad!  We had some horrible crime committed here lately too.  I am almost afraid to watch the news!Sad

    3619.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Aug 2009 Sat 05:18 am

    Take a look at these amazing photos


     


    Gallery: beautiful planetary nebulae


     


    Planetary nebulae are the final butterfly-like state that heralds the end of a Sun-like star´s energy-generating life. Lasting no more than a few tens of thousands of years, planetary nebulae help seed space with heavier chemical elements that can be incorporated into the next generation of stars.

    3620.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     02 Aug 2009 Sun 05:46 am

    Ýsrael teaching muslims about the beauty of Ýslam !

    Israeli Web site advises using wisdom of Quran

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/12/05/quranet.website/index.html

     

    Grosbard´s project has already been met with suspicion in the Muslim world.

    "Israel wants to lure Muslims into its trap by interpreting the Qur´an in a way that suits Israeli projects," Sheikh Shawqi Abdel-Latif of the Egyptian Ministry of Awqaf (Religious Endowments) has told Al-Masri Al-Youm newspaper.

    Dr. Manae Abdel-Halim Mahmoud, professor of Qur´anic sciences at Al-Azhar University, also blasted the Israeli project.

    "Israel only harbors enmity to Islam and Muslims," he said.

    "This project aims to tarnish the image of Islam by giving wrong interpretation of the Noble Qur´an."

    http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout&cid=1213871531782

    May ALLAH help us, even using our religion too !

    3621.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     03 Aug 2009 Mon 06:59 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

    Take a look at these amazing photos

     

    Gallery: beautiful planetary nebulae

     

    Planetary nebulae are the final butterfly-like state that heralds the end of a Sun-like star´s energy-generating life. Lasting no more than a few tens of thousands of years, planetary nebulae help seed space with heavier chemical elements that can be incorporated into the next generation of stars.

     

     These are beautiful pictures.  I just got my son a telescope a few months back and we are totally hooked on astronomy.  It´s a great subject to share with your kids/family.

    3622.       alameda
    3499 posts
     03 Aug 2009 Mon 08:21 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     These are beautiful pictures.  I just got my son a telescope a few months back and we are totally hooked on astronomy.  It´s a great subject to share with your kids/family.

     

     Glad you and I agree on something Elisabeth....Flowers Congratulations on getting a telescope for your son.  Those photographs are amazing....aren´t they.

    3623.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     03 Aug 2009 Mon 10:36 pm

    Trudy´s column about Japan! Very interesting read... I am looking forward to her new columns already!

    3624.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     04 Aug 2009 Tue 10:22 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Trudy´s column about Japan! Very interesting read... I am looking forward to her new columns already!

     

     I happen to agree...I enjoyed this very much Trudy....

    3625.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     06 Aug 2009 Thu 09:39 pm

    LL´s husband has joined the site?  Unsure

    3626.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     06 Aug 2009 Thu 10:08 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    LL´s husband has joined the site?  Unsure

     

     Your right.....I wonder if he is trying to locate her.  I haven´t seen her lately, I wonder if he discovered all her pm´s from dudus...Confused

    3627.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     07 Aug 2009 Fri 04:38 am

    Israeli Army T-Shirts Mock Gaza Killings

    IDF T-shirts awarded on completion of training

    The printed t-shirts were discovered by an Israeli newspaper

     

    The revelations centre on t-shirt designs made for soldiers that make light of shooting pregnant Palestinian mothers and children and include images of dead babies and destroyed mosques.

    The t-shirts were printed for Israeli soldiers at the end of periods of deployment or training courses and were discovered by Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

    One, printed for a platoon of Israeli snipers depicts an armed Palestinian pregnant women caught in the crosshairs of a rifle, with the disturbing caption in English: "1 shot 2 kills".

    Another depicts a child carrying a gun also in the centre of a target.

    "The smaller, the harder," read the words on the t-shirt.

    3628.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     08 Aug 2009 Sat 03:05 am

    Ohhhhhhhh no one is here!  I have the run of the place all to myself!!  muahahahhahhaaa Ninja

    3629.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     08 Aug 2009 Sat 06:59 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Ohhhhhhhh no one is here!  I have the run of the place all to myself!!  muahahahhahhaaa Ninja

     

    or so you wish! we are all watching you from the stealth mode in case you cause more mischief! You smartass!

    3630.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     08 Aug 2009 Sat 09:11 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    or so you wish! we are all watching you from the stealth mode in case you cause more mischief! You smartass!

     

     Mischief?  Moi?  Ohhhhhh kitty you are soooo funny!!!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3631.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     08 Aug 2009 Sat 08:10 pm

    where was Obama born? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    ObamaBaby

    3632.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     09 Aug 2009 Sun 02:02 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    where was Obama born? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    ObamaBaby

     

     What´s your point Tam´s?  That you are good at finding photo-shopped crap?  Does this fill the empty void you have in your life?  Good for you! 

    3633.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     09 Aug 2009 Sun 02:48 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     What´s your point Tam´s?  That you are good at finding photo-shopped crap?  Does this fill the empty void you have in your life?  Good for you! 

     

     

     

    You crazy? why don`t you read the text on the picture. that could help you find out the point.

    3634.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     09 Aug 2009 Sun 02:53 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

     

     

    You crazy? 

     

     Yeah....you know all about crazy don´t ya!  Laugh at

    3635.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Aug 2009 Sun 09:14 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

     

     

    You crazy? why don`t you read the text on the picture. that could help you find out the point.

     

    "Because you will believe anything" -> that sounds like your life´s motto Tami lol

    3636.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     09 Aug 2009 Sun 09:38 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    "Because you will believe anything" -> that sounds like your life´s motto Tami lol

     

    I don`t believe the christian white nazist propaganda. that crosses me out of the list but Im not sure about you.



    Edited (8/9/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

    3637.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     10 Aug 2009 Mon 12:00 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    I don`t believe the christian white nazist propaganda. that crosses me out of the list but Im not sure about you.

     

    Let me think...I don´t believe Christians, Nazists, Islamists, Buddhists, angry adolescents, google hits or flue vaccines so I think I´m more objective than you as I can go beyond religious mumbo-jumbo and testosterone hits lol

    3638.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     10 Aug 2009 Mon 09:11 pm

    More of these to come..Scared 

    http://www.nowpublic.com/world/dallas-aarp-metting-heats-speaker-walks-out

    3639.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     10 Aug 2009 Mon 09:33 pm

     

     

     Teas, please don´t stir up the liberals again.  I gave them all a tree to hug and they have been fairly quiet for a while now.Roll eyes<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3640.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     10 Aug 2009 Mon 09:37 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Teas, please don´t stir up the liberals again.  I gave them all a tree to hug and they have been fairly quiet for a while now.Roll eyes<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     You called?  Ninja

    3641.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     10 Aug 2009 Mon 09:46 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     You called?  Ninja

     Damn it Teas.....will you please give this one another pacifier?  I have heard that if you make them watch Fox News, they will just cry themselves to sleep!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     



    Edited (8/10/2009) by Elisabeth

    3642.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     10 Aug 2009 Mon 10:36 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     I have heard that if you make them watch Fox News, they will just cry themselves to sleep!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

     CRUEL AND UNUSAL PUNISHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Rant

     

    3643.       foka
    597 posts
     11 Aug 2009 Tue 11:37 pm

    Sunflowers and now i have them on my table...yahuuuu

    3644.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 02:17 am

    Woman will be canned for drinking beer in Malaysia

    (But the good thing is,  the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men.)

    ..

    Muslim model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno has become the first woman in Malaysia to be sentenced to a caning after being caught drinking beer in a beach resort.

     

    The 32-year-old will receive six lashes at a woman´s prison next week in what is being viewed as an example of the growing influence of Islamic hardliners on the country.

     

    ..her husband, paid a fine of £860, but declined to lodge an appeal so she could get the punishment over with and put the episode behind her.

     

    She was arrested in July last year in a hotel nightclub in the beach resort of Cherating during a raid by the state´s religious department and admitted drinking beer.

    An Islamic court fined her and ordered her to be caned at Kajang women´s prison next week, but spared her a jail term of up to three years.

    She received word of the sentence from her father and said she would be returning to Malaysia from Singapore.

    "I accept the punishment," she said. ...

    "

    Prosecutor Saiful Idham Sahimi said: "This is the first case in Malaysia. It is a good punishment because under Islamic law a person who drinks commits a serious offence."

    .... The lashes administered to the buttocks, break the skin and leave scars.

    But in Kartika´s case the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men. Sharia law dictates it be no thicker than the little finger and the cane cannot be lifted so high the arm is away from the armpit. ...

     

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...e-first-woman-caned-in-Malaysia.html

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6802628.ece

     

    Well.... Sheria for you!!!

     

    3645.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 02:40 am

    I say stay in Singapore...What the hell!

    3646.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 04:40 pm

    Big boobs=handy purse

    A big-busted young woman has become an internet sensation, 

     

     

    after offering handy tips to curvy ladies around the world on how they can replace handbags with their gigantic bras. 

    In a cheeky web-movie curvy student Winter Pierzina, 20, from Arizona, USA, shows how she can smuggle her car keys, mobile phone, camera, lipstick, wrench, screw driver and even mace into her underwear - as well as her massive boobs.

     

     

    Below is the lady and her bras

     WintrSprngSummrFall

     

    The news (the youtube video is at the bottom) is :

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Bras-They-Carry-Other-Things-Too-53716247.html

     



    Edited (8/20/2009) by thehandsom

    3647.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 05:04 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Big boobs=handy purse

    A big-busted young woman has become an internet sensation, 

     

     

    after offering handy tips to curvy ladies around the world on how they can replace handbags with their gigantic bras. 

    In a cheeky web-movie curvy student Winter Pierzina, 20, from Arizona, USA, shows how she can smuggle her car keys, mobile phone, camera, lipstick, wrench, screw driver and even mace into her underwear - as well as her massive boobs.

     

     

    Below is the lady and her bras

     WintrSprngSummrFall

     

    The news (the youtube video is at the bottom) is :

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Bras-They-Carry-Other-Things-Too-53716247.html

     

     

     Where you surfing the net for "booby" stories again?  Grow up H!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3648.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 06:12 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     Grow up H!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    Mission impossible! lol lol

     

    3649.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 08:04 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Big boobs=handy purse

    A big-busted young woman has become an internet sensation, 

     

     

    after offering handy tips to curvy ladies around the world on how they can replace handbags with their gigantic bras. 

    In a cheeky web-movie curvy student Winter Pierzina, 20, from Arizona, USA, shows how she can smuggle her car keys, mobile phone, camera, lipstick, wrench, screw driver and even mace into her underwear - as well as her massive boobs.

     

     

    Below is the lady and her bras

     WintrSprngSummrFall

     

    The news (the youtube video is at the bottom) is :

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Bras-They-Carry-Other-Things-Too-53716247.html

     

     

     I am so jealous, now I have lost weight I have lost other attributes too Confused So only got room for an extra pack of tissues Unsure

    3650.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 08:15 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     I am so jealous, now I have lost weight I have lost other attributes too Confused So only got room for an extra pack of tissues Unsure

     

    Next step is telling all what size you have?

     

    3651.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 09:12 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     I am so jealous, now I have lost weight I have lost other attributes too Confused So only got room for an extra pack of tissues Unsure

     

    Don´t worry, I´ll help you when you need some well...extra storage space lol I can be TC´s portable bank when we go out lol

    3652.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 10:19 pm

    He or She?

     

    South African Athlete must undergo gender testing.

     

    I honestly can´t tell on this one:

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540921,00.html?test=latestnews

    3653.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 10:27 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    He or She?

     

    South African Athlete must undergo gender testing.

     

    I honestly can´t tell on this one:

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540921,00.html?test=latestnews

     That is a DUDE!

     

    3654.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 10:31 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     That is a DUDE!

     

     

     Whatever it is........he/she can sure run like the wind!!

    3655.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Aug 2009 Thu 10:56 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Next step is telling all what size you have?

     

     

     One of those little pocket size packet of tissues ..............  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3656.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Aug 2009 Fri 06:53 am

    California news... what a shame!! Sad

     

    "What governor - once an actor, then a Terminator, married to a major women´s leader - has the chutzpah to wipe out 100 percent of the domestic violence budget of California, the biggest state in the country, with a single grope of his veto pen?
    What same governor does this as the state economy is plummeting and violence is escalating? When the STAND Hotline, that serves Contra Costa County, fielded more than 12,500 calls for help in the first seven months of 2009, triple the number in a normal year (if violence is ever normal)? In a state where over the past six months at least five men, desperate from losing their jobs, have murdered their families and themselves? What other governor is willing to sacrifice the lives of his constituent daughters and mothers in order to protect oil corporations from paying taxes on their multi-billion-dollar profits - fair taxes that could easily fund these same programs?
    I try to imagine what the governor thinks as he draws his veto pen through 40 years of women´s struggle and work, how he sleeps knowing women across his state who are exposed to brutality will be left without escape, shelter or even a friendly voice at the end of a hotline. How he justifies women having to choose between becoming homeless or staying in the midst of danger. Then I am reminded he is the Terminator - no pity, no remorse, no fear.
    Fortunately, other governors do feel pity and remorse. They know that having muscle isn´t what makes a man, but it is compassion and wisdom and respect for women and girls. In New Mexico, Governor Bill Richardson has not only preserved funds for domestic violence programs, but has made a sincere and deep commitment to ending violence against women in his state.
    Schwarzenegger has always had contempt for the vulnerable, or maybe it´s just his own inner girlie man he despises. But now he has gone too far.
    This cut is reckless and dangerous. It could begin a wave of cuts throughout the country. It sends a message to perpetrators. It basically says no one is watching, no one is coming. All bets are off. Having just spent months in the Democratic Republic of Congo, I can tell you that this climate of free-for-all spreads violence like a California wildfire.
    Governor, too many hours in your cigar smoking corporate oil drilling boy´s tent has made you think that you can get away with this. We´ve got your number. Unlike you we don´t act alone. There are thousands of us, we are organized, and we won´t be stopped by one muscle-bound veto.
    Don´t terminate. Reinstate the funds. Don´t annihilate. Alleviate the suffering.
    Eve Ensler, a playwright and activist, is the founder of V-Day, a global movement to end violence against women and girls."

    article

    3657.       libralady
    5152 posts
     21 Aug 2009 Fri 12:15 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Woman will be canned for drinking beer in Malaysia

    (But the good thing is,  the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men.)

    ..

    Muslim model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno has become the first woman in Malaysia to be sentenced to a caning after being caught drinking beer in a beach resort.

     

    The 32-year-old will receive six lashes at a woman´s prison next week in what is being viewed as an example of the growing influence of Islamic hardliners on the country.

     

    ..her husband, paid a fine of £860, but declined to lodge an appeal so she could get the punishment over with and put the episode behind her.

     

    She was arrested in July last year in a hotel nightclub in the beach resort of Cherating during a raid by the state´s religious department and admitted drinking beer.

    An Islamic court fined her and ordered her to be caned at Kajang women´s prison next week, but spared her a jail term of up to three years.

    She received word of the sentence from her father and said she would be returning to Malaysia from Singapore.

    "I accept the punishment," she said. ...

    "

    Prosecutor Saiful Idham Sahimi said: "This is the first case in Malaysia. It is a good punishment because under Islamic law a person who drinks commits a serious offence."

    .... The lashes administered to the buttocks, break the skin and leave scars.

    But in Kartika´s case the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men. Sharia law dictates it be no thicker than the little finger and the cane cannot be lifted so high the arm is away from the armpit. ...

     

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...e-first-woman-caned-in-Malaysia.html

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6802628.ece

     

    Well.... Sheria for you!!!

     

     

     http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149273918

     

    Just spotted this - seems like she asked to be publically caned.............. what ever rocks your boat I suppose.

    3658.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     22 Aug 2009 Sat 12:40 pm

    One for Sonunda (and me!)

     

    Illiterate Britain    <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

    (but actually not really funny Sad  )

    3659.       sonunda
    5004 posts
     22 Aug 2009 Sat 03:27 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    One for Sonunda (and me!)

     

    Illiterate Britain    <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

    (but actually not really funny Sad  )

     

     I saw this too!

    3660.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     22 Aug 2009 Sat 04:09 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    One for Sonunda (and me!)

     

    Illiterate Britain    <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

    (but actually not really funny Sad  )

     

    Apostrophes seemed not a hard thing to do before I moved to Ireland. Now, the poor non-native me has doubts seeing things like cafe adverts saying: panini´s, toast´s and cake´s. And that weird habit of pluralising 2nd person as in: "How long have yous been there" or using me instead of my in "That´s me new car" drive me mad!

    3661.       bydand
    755 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 02:44 pm

    I notice a new member who only joined last week has  already started to ruffle a few feathers. Unsure

    3662.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 03:32 pm

     

    Quoting bydand

    I notice a new member who only joined last week has  already started to ruffle a few feathers. Unsure

     

     That´s an understatement.

    3663.       _AE_
    677 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 03:44 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     That´s an understatement.

     

     Mwahahahahahaha lollollol

    3664.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 03:50 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Mwahahahahahaha lollollol

     

     And as boring as before. lol lol lol

    3665.       _AE_
    677 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 03:51 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     And as boring as before. lol lol lol

     

     Oh please please write an essay about it lol

    3666.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 04:03 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Oh please please write an essay about it lol

     

     I just did: in post 3664. More words are not needed.

    3667.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 04:14 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

     I just did: in post 3664. More words are not needed.

     

    Post of the year!!!! lol lol 

    3668.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 04:52 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     Good to see you back AE Flowers

    3669.       _AE_
    677 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 05:04 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Good to see you back AE Flowers

     

      Mwah

    3670.       bydand
    755 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 10:37 pm

     

    Quoting CANLI

     

     

     Good to see you back AE Flowers

     Just come to my attention as well that _AE_ is a returning member and in the absence of the Welcoming Committee chairman (gross derelictionWhat the hell!) and members of the committee I welcome you back. Flowers

    3671.       libralady
    5152 posts
     23 Aug 2009 Sun 11:00 pm

    Normal service has been resumed mwahahahaha............. Satisfied nod

     

    p.s. It has been a lovely weekend for those of you who did not notice Unsure

    3672.       CANLI
    5084 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 12:23 am

    Good to see you too LL, i was starting to worry actually Flowers

    3673.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 10:54 am

     

    Quoting CANLI

    Good to see you too LL, i was starting to worry actually Flowers

     

    Unsure   She´s been posting for the last week 

    3674.       libralady
    5152 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 02:34 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Unsure   She´s been posting for the last week 

     

     Uhmmmm keeping tabs on me are you??? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3675.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 07:11 pm

    Welcome back _AE_!  I shall start construction on the Grand Re-Opening of the TC Lounge in honor of your return. 

    3676.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 10:09 pm

    Woman´s Caning Postponed for Ramadan.


     


    KARAI, Malaysia - Malaysia abruptly granted a Ramadan reprieve to the first Muslim Malay woman to be sentenced to caning for drinking beer, but insisted Monday the thrashing would still take place after the Islamic holy month of fasting.


     


    Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, a 32-year-old mother of two, had been en route to a women´s prison for the caning when Islamic officials who took her into custody drove her back home and released her.


    Mohamad Sahfri Abdul Aziz, a state legislator in charge of religious affairs, later said the Attorney General´s office advised that the caning should be delayed for compassionate reasons until after the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which began Saturday.


     


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32534618/ns/world_news-asiapacific

    3677.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 10:25 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Woman´s Caning Postponed for Ramadan.

     

     

    How very compassionate and very considered of them..!!

    3678.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     24 Aug 2009 Mon 11:29 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Uhmmmm keeping tabs on me are you??? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    Just fascinated by your tales of delicate stomach and shrinking bosoms



    Edited (8/24/2009) by lady in red

    3679.       _AE_
    677 posts
     25 Aug 2009 Tue 02:14 pm

    The US army officer convicted for his part in the notorious My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War has offered his first public apology, a US report says.


    "There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened," Lt William Calley was quoted as saying by the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer.


    He was addressing a small group at a community club in Columbus, Georgia.


    Calley, 66, was convicted on 22 counts of murder for the 1968 massacre of 500 men, women and children in Vietnam.


     


    He was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the killings in 1971. Then-US President Richard Nixon commuted his sentence to three years´ house arrest.


    But Calley insisted that he was only following orders, the paper reported.


     


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8215556.stm


     


     I guess saying sorry makes it all ok then (!!!).  I am sure Teaschip will come up with a good reason as to why they were there in the first place…



    If we wait 40 years perhaps we will get an apology for what has happened in Iraq then


     


     

    3680.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 Aug 2009 Tue 06:33 pm

    A wonderful act of kindness.

     

    Ariz. woman finds taxi driver is a kidney match

    Donor cabbie says giving the organ is a ‘whole new kind of lift’

    Image: Rita Van Loenen and Thomas Chappell

     

     

    PHOENIX - Rita Van Loenen had no idea that a trip in Thomas Chappell´s taxi cab could end up being the ride that saves her life.

     

    "There are better odds of getting struck by lightning," Van Loenen said. "A random taxi driver offering to give me his kidney and all these pieces match. There has to be something behind this. How can this be?"

    Chappell, who has been driving Van Loenen to dialysis appointments, shocked the Gilbert, Ariz., woman a month ago by offering to donate his kidney. But even more shocking to her was that doctors found they had the same blood type, that they were compatible.

     

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32541245/ns/us_news-wonderful_world/?gt1=43001

     

     

    3681.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     26 Aug 2009 Wed 07:23 pm

    The passing of an iconic American politician.......

     

    HYANNIS PORT, Mass. – Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in an enduring political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.

    In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, served alongside 10 presidents — his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them — compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.

    In a brief statement to reporters at his rented vacation home on Martha´s Vineyard, Mass., President Barack Obama eulogized Kennedy as one of the "most accomplished Americans" in history — and a man whose work in Congress helped give millions new opportunities.

    "Including myself," added the nation´s first black president.

    A source, speaking on grounds of anonymity because plans were still under way, told The Associated Press that Kennedy will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. At the eternal flame rests four Kennedy family members, including the former president, Jacqueline Kennedy, their baby son, Patrick, who died after two days, and a still-born child. Former Sen. Robert Kennedy F. Kennedy is buried a short distance away.

    Kennedy´s only run for the White House ended in defeat in 1980, when President Jimmy Carter turned back his challenge for the party´s nomination. More than a quarter-century later, Kennedy handed then-Sen. Barack Obama an endorsement at a critical point in the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, explicitly likening the young contender to President Kennedy.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_go_co/us_obit_ted_kennedy

     

    3682.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 02:04 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    The passing of an iconic American politician.......

     

    HYANNIS PORT, Mass. – Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in an enduring political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.

    In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, served alongside 10 presidents — his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them — compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_go_co/us_obit_ted_kennedy

     

     

     5 months in Iraq, what would the American People rather have?

     

    RIP

    Cry

     



    Edited (8/27/2009) by alameda [add]

    3683.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 02:51 am

    United States Circumcision Incidence


     


    Circumcision statistics are difficult to obtain because of the large number of locations in which circumcisions are performed in the United States. Different sources provide varying results. The time frame is also important because circumcision rates have varied from year to year.


    History. Wirth (198 published circumcision statistics obtained between July 1963 to December 1965 by the Cycle III of the Health Examination Service of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, a result of physical examinations of 12- to 17-year-old boys.1 The numbers relate to the incidence of circumcision in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The findings are set forth in Table I.




































    Table I
    Census Region Northeast North Central South West
    Whites 83% 89% 74% 74%
    Blacks 68% 52% 31% 54%
    Combined 81% 86% 63% 73%

    Wirth reported that 76% of all boys in the survey were circumcised—whites, about 80% , and blacks about 45%. Wirth emphasized that, in some hospitals, more than 90 percent of boys were circumcised.1 Wirth´s data are consistent with those reported by Laumann et al. below.









































































































    Circumcision Incidence Rate


    Year           1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006
    Northeast Region           65.4% 64.6% 66.9% 68.9% 64.7% 66.4% 66.9% 63.6%
    North Central Region           81.4% 81.4% 81.0% 81.0% 77.8% 79.5% 78.7% 77.9%
    Southern Region           64.1% 63.9% 62.5% 64.0% 57.7% 58.5% 58.7% 55.3%
    Western Region           36.7% 37.3% 40.9% 32.6% 31.4% 31.7% 31.5% 33.8%
    All Regions           61.5% 62.4% 63.1% 60.1% 55.9% 57.4% 57.3% 56.1%


    Edited (8/27/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

    3684.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 03:33 am

     

    A week ago there was an incident 

    The news was http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLH518267

    It says:

     Four Turkish soldiers were killed and three wounded on Monday in an explosion during a training exercise in the eastern province of Elazig, security sources said.

     

    It seemed like an accident..

    Alas..It happens..As we say in Turkey ´Ana kucagi degil, asker ocagi´

    (it is not your mother´s lap, it is the army)

     

    But..

     

     Now we are learning that it was not an accident at all:

     One of the dead soldiers sleeps during his guard duty at 6:00 am..

     And a corporal takes his hand granade as an evidence while sleeping..

     Early in the morning the corporal gives the hand granade (the evidence) to the  lieutenant.

     And the  lieutenant pulls the hand granade´s pin and hands it to the soldier who was a sleep, as a punishment and he says ´if you  release the latch you die, if you dont, you will live´

     And the soldier comes back to the lieutenant and asks for the pin (so that he can put the pin back) twice..The lieutenant tells him ´not now..and wait for me´

     And the punishment goes on for a while (around 45 mins or more) and when the soldier has no more power the granade explodes..

     Four soldiers are dead..

     

     Article in Turkish:

    http://www.taraf.com.tr/haber/39631.htm

     

    Thanks to daily Taraf btw..

    It seems they are the only papers with balls ..

     

     



    Edited (8/27/2009) by thehandsom [added Ana kucagi degil, asker ocagi]

    3685.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 03:25 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    The passing of an iconic American politician.......

     

    HYANNIS PORT, Mass. – Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in an enduring political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.

    In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, served alongside 10 presidents — his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them — compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.

    In a brief statement to reporters at his rented vacation home on Martha´s Vineyard, Mass., President Barack Obama eulogized Kennedy as one of the "most accomplished Americans" in history — and a man whose work in Congress helped give millions new opportunities.

    "Including myself," added the nation´s first black president.

    A source, speaking on grounds of anonymity because plans were still under way, told The Associated Press that Kennedy will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. At the eternal flame rests four Kennedy family members, including the former president, Jacqueline Kennedy, their baby son, Patrick, who died after two days, and a still-born child. Former Sen. Robert Kennedy F. Kennedy is buried a short distance away.

    Kennedy´s only run for the White House ended in defeat in 1980, when President Jimmy Carter turned back his challenge for the party´s nomination. More than a quarter-century later, Kennedy handed then-Sen. Barack Obama an endorsement at a critical point in the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, explicitly likening the young contender to President Kennedy.

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_go_co/us_obit_ted_kennedy

     

     

    Just read an article about him in Turkish..

    Wow..What a personality!!

    3686.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 03:40 pm

    For me, his name will always be synonomous with the Chappaquidick incident and his bizarre behaviour following Mary Jo Kopechne´s death.  There are some intesting theories about this and even the facts themselves ask more questions than they answer.

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6094161/Ted-Kennedy-Chappaquiddick-Incident.html

    3687.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 03:53 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

    For me, his name will always be synonomous with the Chappaquidick incident and his bizarre behaviour following Mary Jo Kopechne´s death.  There are some intesting theories about this and even the facts themselves ask more questions than they answer.

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6094161/Ted-Kennedy-Chappaquiddick-Incident.html

     

    So many people in the Kennedy family have been involved in scandals!  This one is probably the strangest.  I was watching a television program about the Kennedy family a while back.  I was shocked to know that the Kennedy family made its original fortune from bootlegging liquor during prohibition.  Those darn wild Irishmen! 

    3688.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 03:55 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    So many people in the Kennedy family have been involved in scandals!  This one is probably the strangest.  I was watching a television program about the Kennedy family a while back.  I was shocked to know that the Kennedy family made its original fortune from bootlegging liquor during prohibition.  Those darn wild Irishmen! 

     

     Well (apart from Chappaquiddick) I don´t think the other scandals affected their ability or right to run the country.  They were HUMAN - some people should remember they are not gods



    Edited (8/27/2009) by _AE_

    3689.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 04:01 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Well (apart from Chappaquiddick) I don´t think the other scandals affected their ability or right to run the country.  They were HUMAN - some people should remember they are not gods

     

    Of course us Americans turn up our noses at the concept of a "Royal Family" but if their was one, they would be it.  But you are right, they are HUMAN and certainly have their share of tragedy to prove it.  But in spite of everything, the Kennedys as a family have dedicated their lives to public service which, in my opinion is quite admirable. 

    3690.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 04:03 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     But in spite of everything, the Kennedys as a family have dedicated their lives to public service which, in my opinion is quite admirable. 

     

     +1.  May I also add that until the arrival of Obama, they were also the most handsome of presidents 

    3691.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 05:27 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

      +1.  May I also add that until the arrival of Obama, they were also the most handsome of presidents 

     

     which is the most important quality of a president in our western "mature" democracies! lol

    3692.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 05:28 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

     which is the most important quality of a president in our western "mature" democracies! lol

     

    It certainly doesn´t hurt!!

    3693.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 06:43 pm

    Return of another ´old´ member in ´disguise´!

    3694.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 06:54 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Return of another ´old´ member in ´disguise´!

     

     Wow that´s amazing   I can never quite work out how you can guess these always...I think you must have psychic powers? .................. lollollol

    3695.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:09 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Wow that´s amazing   I can never quite work out how you can guess these always...I think you must have psychic powers? .................. lollollol

     

    Not really.......it took me AGES to work out who you were  

    3696.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:09 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Wow that´s amazing   I can never quite work out how you can guess these always...I think you must have psychic powers? .................. lollollol

     

    Or the old users are so predictable?!!!! lol lol 

    3697.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:16 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Or the old users are so predictable?!!!! lol lol 

     

     Or maybe it´s those special psychic powers called IP and PM reading

    3698.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:20 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Or maybe it´s those special psychic powers called IP and PM reading

     

     Sorry mistyped - I meant palm reading

    3699.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:20 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Or maybe it´s those special psychic powers called IP and PM reading

     

    ...if you´re that interested it´s recognising someone´s posting style and recognising their choice of nickname - not psychic just observant, as I´m sure most regular members are.

     

    Whatever gives you the idea that Admin can read pms??  I certainly can´t. (I presume you meant other people´s not my own!)



    Edited (8/27/2009) by lady in red
    Edited (8/27/2009) by lady in red

    3700.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:25 pm

    I am really serious about the heathwave in IOW..

    Geeeee..

    3701.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:26 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Whatever gives you the idea that Admin can read pms??  

     

     Are you serious telling me he cant? lollollol

    3702.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I am really serious about the heathwave in IOW..

    Geeeee..

     

     Heath wave? What is this?

     

    Diversion tactics? lol

    3703.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:27 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Heath wave? What is this?

     

    Diversion tactics? lol

     

    It is not diversion tactics at all..

    You are losing it!! I am serious...Such a shame really..



    Edited (8/27/2009) by thehandsom

    3704.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:29 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    It is not diversion tactics at all..

    You are losing it!! I am serious...Such a shame really..

     

     Hahaha ok ok I know when I am beaten.  Admin can´t read PMs and you are not favoured by mods

    But before I go - what IS a heath wave?

    3705.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 07:31 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Hahaha ok ok I know when I am beaten.  Admin can´t read PMs and you are not favoured by mods

    But before I go - what IS a heath wave?

     

    A heat wave is a kind of wave very similiar to mexican wave..

    3706.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 08:16 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    A heat wave is a kind of wave very similiar to mexican wave..

     I know what a heat wave is silly, but what is a heath wave?  

    3707.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 08:16 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Hahaha ok ok I know when I am beaten.  Admin can´t read PMs and you are not favoured by mods

     

    And Santa Claus is REAL

     



    Edited (8/27/2009) by _AE_

    3708.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 08:19 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     I know what a heat wave is silly, but what is a heath wave?  

     

    I am telling you..It is a kind of mexian wave!!! lol 

    3709.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    I am telling you..It is a kind of mexian wave!!! lol 

     

     Hmmm well you must be right because you always are

    But what then is "mexian"?

    3710.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 09:11 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    Of course us Americans turn up our noses at the concept of a "Royal Family" but if their was one, they would be it.  But you are right, they are HUMAN and certainly have their share of tragedy to prove it.  But in spite of everything, the Kennedys as a family have dedicated their lives to public service which, in my opinion is quite admirable. 

     

    Interesting they all go back to the middle of the 19th Centruy.  The Kennedy family are relative newcomers on the political stage.  The Bush family has a much longer history, going back to Samuel Bush, who during WWI was was appointed to the War Industries Board.

     

    Then there is the Rockefeller family who goes back  over 150 years.  One interesting thing I noticed about the Bush and Rockefeller families is the association with banks.....?

     

    The Roosevelt Family   Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt....and the Delano Family...hmmm Alan Shepard...the fifth person to walk on the moon was from that family too...

     

    An interesting fact about Patrick Kennedy (the son of Patrick Kennedy the Irish immigrent)   "......... thirty five year old Kennedy succumbed to the highly infectious cholera that infested East Boston, and died on November 22, 1858—105 years to the day before his great-grandson John F. Kennedy would be assassinated."  It seems the Kennedy family had much closer living memory relationship with poverty and need.

     

    The Bush and Rockefeller famlies have been very far away from poverty for some time.

    3711.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 09:11 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Hmmm well you must be right because you always are

    But what then is "mexian"?

     

    Offf..

    You should learn how to google... 



    Edited (8/27/2009) by thehandsom [incase someone comes back with ´what is shoul?´]

    3712.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 09:20 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Offf..

    You should learn how to google... 

     

     And you should learn how to spell   (Nice deflection by the way )



    Edited (8/27/2009) by _AE_

    3713.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 10:24 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     And you should learn how to spell   (Nice deflection by the way )

     

    You are getting increasingly boring AE..

    3714.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 10:49 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    You are getting increasingly boring AE..

     

     Are you afraid she will catch up with you?  Unsure

    3715.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 10:54 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Are you afraid she will catch up with you?  Unsure

     

    WELCOME TO BORINGSVILLE GG..

    3716.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 10:54 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     +1.  May I also add that until the arrival of Obama, they were also the most handsome of presidents 

     

     Umm....there was only one Kennedy POTUS....JFK....although I do agree he was very handsome.

    3717.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 11:04 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     Umm....there was only one Kennedy POTUS....JFK....although I do agree he was very handsome.

     

     OMG yes you are right - I don´t know why I was thinking Bobby was a president!!!!

    I guess I should google every time I speak - but in real life there is no google so those who have to google before opening their mouths (or typing) must have little general knowledge

    3718.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 11:07 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

     which is the most important quality of a president in our western "mature" democracies! lol

     

     Well.. the UK never had a handsome Prime Minister, so I guess it doesn´t look good for the US

    3719.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 11:46 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     OMG yes you are right - I don´t know why I was thinking Bobby was a president!!!!

    I guess I should google every time I speak - but in real life there is no google so those who have to google before opening their mouths (or typing) must have little general knowledge

     

     I didn´t have to Google that one........He probably could have been president, but we will never know. 

    3720.       _AE_
    677 posts
     27 Aug 2009 Thu 11:58 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     I didn´t have to Google that one........He probably could have been president, but we will never know. 

     

     Hehe no I didn´t imply you did have to

    3721.       alameda
    3499 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 12:19 am

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Well.. the UK never had a handsome Prime Minister, so I guess it doesn´t look good for the US

     

     You have had a LOT of Prime Ministers...hmmm....I´ll have to go through this with a fine tooth comb....Cool

    3722.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 12:37 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    WELCOME TO BORINGSVILLE GG..

     

     Oh you are now welcoming committee AND President of boringsville?  How nice that you can multi-task!!!  Big smile

    3723.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 12:44 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Oh you are now welcoming committee AND President of boringsville?  How nice that you can multi-task!!!  Big smile

     

    AHHH

    I was reading the sign board and forgot the add the rest

    WELCOME TO BORINGSVILLE ..POPULATION 2: AE and GG.. 

     

    lol lol 



    Edited (8/28/2009) by thehandsom [forgot to add lols]

    3724.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 12:55 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Oh you are now welcoming committee AND President of boringsville?  How nice that you can multi-task!!!  Big smile

     

     He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!RantHe NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG.  Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back.  Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. Sick You cannot simply replace me.  I have rights you know.Razz

    3725.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 01:35 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!RantHe NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG.  Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back.  Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. Sick You cannot simply replace me.  I have rights you know.Razz

     Deep breath teas!!  Let me get you an EAP card!  I did not mean he is the head of the TC welcoming committee....everyone knows he lost that position in disgrace....he is the head of the Boringsville welcoming committee...polulation - thehandsom!

     

    3726.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 03:53 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

     He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!RantHe NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG.  Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back.  Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. Sick You cannot simply replace me.  I have rights you know.Razz

     

    this is absolutely true!!

    ROFL!! lol lol lol

    3727.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 04:16 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!RantHe NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG.  Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back.  Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. Sick You cannot simply replace me.  I have rights you know.Razz

     

     You may be entitled to FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) but you must first go thru the EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and get your PAR (Personel Action Requisition) signed by the MOD (Manager on Duty).  Only at that time will HR (Human Resources) give you any PTO (Paid Time Off) for your CMS (Change in Mental Status).  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



    Edited (8/28/2009) by Elisabeth

    3728.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 07:26 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     You may be entitled to FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) but you must first go thru the EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and get your PAR (Personel Action Requisition) signed by the MOD (Manager on Duty).  Only at that time will HR (Human Resources) give you any PTO (Paid Time Off) for your CMS (Change in Mental Status).  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

      She´s just got PMS<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3729.       _AE_
    677 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 07:30 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     You may be entitled to FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) but you must first go thru the EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and get your PAR (Personel Action Requisition) signed by the MOD (Manager on Duty).  Only at that time will HR (Human Resources) give you any PTO (Paid Time Off) for your CMS (Change in Mental Status).  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     PS (Post Script) OMG (oh my god) what a lot of BS (bull shit) to remember and BTW (by the way) I think TC (Turkish Class) causes some PPL (people) to have a CMS (Change in Mental Status). CYA (see you) later BRB (be right back) L.O.L (laugh out loud)!

    3730.       foka
    597 posts
     28 Aug 2009 Fri 08:07 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     PS (Post Script) OMG (oh my god) what a lot of BS (bull shit) to remember and BTW (by the way) I think TC (Turkish Class) causes some PPL (people) to have a CMS (Change in Mental Status).

     

     Aff  ( Affirmative) Wink

    3731.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     29 Aug 2009 Sat 08:42 pm

    Jaycee Lee Dugard -Missing US girl

    ...

    He snatched the little girl at random, bundling her into a car as he cruised for victims around the holiday resorts of California´s Sierra Nevada. Then he drove more than 200 miles to his rambling home on the outskirts of a blue-collar city called Antioch.

     

    For the next 18 years, Phillip Craig Garrido kept his victim hidden from the world, in a squalid collection of tents, shacks and lean-tos at the bottom of his back garden. She suffered unthinkable abuse, was raped countless times, and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8226165.stm

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..2006-1778997.html

    --

    What a horrible story

    3732.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Aug 2009 Sat 08:56 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Jaycee Lee Dugard -Missing US girl

    ...

    He snatched the little girl at random, bundling her into a car as he cruised for victims around the holiday resorts of California´s Sierra Nevada. Then he drove more than 200 miles to his rambling home on the outskirts of a blue-collar city called Antioch.

     

    For the next 18 years, Phillip Craig Garrido kept his victim hidden from the world, in a squalid collection of tents, shacks and lean-tos at the bottom of his back garden. She suffered unthinkable abuse, was raped countless times, and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8226165.stm

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..2006-1778997.html

    --

    What a horrible story

     

    Stories like this make it hard to be against death penalty. (Though I still am.)

     

    3733.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 Aug 2009 Sat 11:22 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Jaycee Lee Dugard -Missing US girl

     

    ...

    He snatched the little girl at random, bundling her into a car as he cruised for victims around the holiday resorts of California´s Sierra Nevada. Then he drove more than 200 miles to his rambling home on the outskirts of a blue-collar city called Antioch.

     

    For the next 18 years, Phillip Craig Garrido kept his victim hidden from the world, in a squalid collection of tents, shacks and lean-tos at the bottom of his back garden. She suffered unthinkable abuse, was raped countless times, and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8226165.stm

    http://www.independent.co.uk/..2006-1778997.html

    --

    What a horrible story

     

    I´d vote not only for death penalty but tortures for bastards like him.

     

    3734.       alameda
    3499 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 01:02 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Jaycee Lee Dugard -Missing US girl

     

    ...and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.

    .

     

     

    Actually, she was only 13 when she had the first child.  That man was some sort of  religious fanatic who was trying to start his own church.

     

    Cops searched home but didn´t find compound.........

     

    And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted.

    3735.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 01:26 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

     That man was some sort of  religious fanatic who was trying to start his own church.

     

     

    shhhhh, you can`t talk about this. It`s a coincidence (fullstop)

    3736.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:54 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Actually, she was only 13 when she had the first child.  That man was some sort of  religious fanatic who was trying to start his own church.

     

    Cops searched home but didn´t find compound.........

     

    And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted.

     

    Hmmmmm..............

     

    Quote: alameda

    Guess you missed the "Innocent until proven guilty" part of USA jurisprudence?

     

    Guess you forgot the lesson you thought so important to try teach me....of course I´m glad to remind you that in the case we were discussing...(you know the one....when you thought you were so clever with your "innocent" link and tried to teach me about jurisprudence)......THAT person had already been convicted of the crime he was accused of.  Laugh at

     

    Quote: alameda

    I don´t think it´s ever wrong to have compassion.

     

     

    And I wonder........why don´t you extend your compassion here?  Do you rate murder as less important than the crimes this sick man is accused of?



    Edited (8/30/2009) by girleegirl [cuz i had to laugh!]

    3737.       alameda
    3499 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 01:02 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     

    And I wonder........why don´t you extend your compassion here?  Do you rate murder as less important than the crimes this sick man is accused of?

     

    Are you serious.....maybe I have to simplify my statement for you.....

     

    My statement...."And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted."........................of course there has to be a trial, the case needs to be proven
    "beyond a reasonable doubt"....but DNA should be pretty easy to prove paternity....hmmm a 15 year old child of a 29 year old woman...now how old would she have had to have been....she was forced.......she was only 11 years old when kidnapped!.....he is a violent sexual predator...a pedofile.....in an office with two glassy eyed robotic young girls....?



    Edited (8/30/2009) by alameda [correction]
    Edited (8/30/2009) by alameda [add]

    3738.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:21 pm

     

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Are you serious.....maybe I have to simplify my statement for you.....

     

    My statement...."And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted."........................of course there has to be a trial, the case needs to be proven
    "beyond a reasonable doubt"....but DNA should be pretty easy to prove paternity....hmmm a 15 year old child of a 29 year old woman...now how old would she have had to have been....she was forced.......she was only 11 years old when kidnapped!.....he is a violent sexual predator...a pedofile.....in an office with two glassy eyed robotic young girls....?

     

    There, there, do you feel better?  I know how important it is for you to feel smarter and superior to everyone and talk down to anyone who questions you so good for you!!


    Now, why don’t you answer the question?


    You feel that the death penalty is appropriate for a child molester/rapist/kidnapper who, by any stretch of the imagination, is mentally ill, but you feel compassionate release is appropriate for a convicted murder because he is terminally ill.  So, I will ask again…..why the difference in your compassion?



    Edited (8/30/2009) by girleegirl
    Edited (8/30/2009) by girleegirl [forgot a word]
    Edited (8/30/2009) by girleegirl

    3739.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:30 pm

    OMG.. is this tone necessary? Really, this hostility is getting boring.

    3740.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:34 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    OMG.. is this tone necessary? Really, this hostility is getting boring.

     

    Ya know kitty there are just some people who bring it out in others.

    3741.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:47 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

    Ya know kitty there are just some people who bring it out in others.

     

    I think that is just an excuse canim.. I am sure you can well control how you express yourself.

    3742.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:51 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I think that is just an excuse canim.. I am sure you can well control how you express yourself.

     

    I express myself quite well canim Big smile

    3743.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 10:04 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

    I express myself quite well canim Big smile

     

    canim, but you criticize others who express themselves in this way!

    3744.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 10:10 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    canim, but you criticize others who express themselves in this way!

     

    No, I criticize those who pretend they don´t.  I see no reason to temper my responses.  Big smile  If that makes you uncomfortable then I apologize in advance for my future comments!  Wink

    But I assume your comment was not only meant for me.

    3745.       alameda
    3499 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 10:32 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Now, why don’t you answer the question?


    You feel that the death penalty is appropriate for a child molester/rapist/kidnapper who, by any stretch of the imagination, is mentally ill, but you feel compassionate release is appropriate for a convicted murder because he is terminally ill.  So, I will ask again…..why the difference in your compassion?

     

    Girleegirl....did you refresh yourself regarding my statement about the Lockerbie Bomber that seems to have set you off:

     

    "That does seem to be the case, although, there does appear to be some controversy regarding the judgement."

     

    .............If someone is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt....in my mind....not in a court that has political motives....

     

    Now, did I say the death penalty was appropriate, or that I would go for it? NO....

     

    "Are you serious.....maybe I have to simplify my statement for you.....

     

    My statement...."And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted."........................of course there has to be a trial, the case needs to be proven
    "beyond a reasonable doubt"....but DNA should be pretty easy to prove paternity....hmmm a 15 year old child of a 29 year old woman...now how old would she have had to have been....she was forced.......she was only 11 years old when kidnapped!.....he is a violent sexual predator...a pedofile.....in an office with two glassy eyed robotic young girls....?"


    Sometimes language can be subtle...maybe too subtle for some....hmmm?

     

    Seems:

    1.  To give the impression of being; appear: The child seems healthy, but the doctor is concerned.

     

    I know how you LOVE links....have fun  Flowers

    3746.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 11:30 pm

    Yes and your MO is to keep your comments subtle to keep from being held accountable for what you say when someone calls you on it. You crazy?

     

    Quoting alameda

     

    Sometimes language can be subtle...maybe too subtle for some....hmmm?

    3747.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     30 Aug 2009 Sun 11:32 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    .............If someone is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt....in my mind....not in a court that has political motives....

     

    This pretty much sums you up doesn´t it....you think you are superior even to the court systems.

    3748.       alameda
    3499 posts
     02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:11 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

    This pretty much sums you up doesn´t it....you think you are superior even to the court systems.

     

    You do realize the duty of a juror is to make an impartial judgement, don´t you? 

     

    Duties of a juror.

     

     



    Edited (9/2/2009) by alameda [sp]

    3749.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     02 Sep 2009 Wed 09:24 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    You do realize the duty of a juror is to make an impartial judgement, don´t you? 

     

    Duties of a juror.

     

     

     

     Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass.  But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.  

     

    3750.       alameda
    3499 posts
     02 Sep 2009 Wed 10:17 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass.  But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.  

     

     

    Pushing my buttons.....? it seems you are the one who is going off all the time.  Not only with me, but many others.  I have not stooped to personal attacks.  Anything I have said is based on an analysis of situations.  I am not commenting on my like, dislike, approval of others personal attributes.

     

    "whack job"....look who is talking.....perhaps this should be in the menopause thread,  due to the fact you certainly are exhibiting symptoms of hormonal imbalance....irritability and mood swings.  It is called perimenopause....and you are definitly in it.

     

    There is no shame to be in menopause.  It is a natural part of a woman´s life.  I don´t know why so many get upset about the natural progression of life´s stages.

    3751.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     02 Sep 2009 Wed 10:19 pm

    Yeah....WHOSE Fluffy now GG??

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffy

    3752.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Sep 2009 Wed 11:27 pm

    Obama praises Islam at Ramadan dinner

     

    US President Barack Obama .... hosts a dinner celebrating Ramadan.

    U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday praised Islam as an integral part of America, as he feted prominent U.S. Muslims at an Iftar dinner marking the holy fasting month of Ramadan.

     

    "For well over a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection," Obama said, in remarks welcoming his guests in the State Dining Room of the White House. "Tonight´s Iftar is a ritual that is being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states," Obama said.

     

    "Islam as we know is part of America. Like the broader American citizenry, the American Muslim community is one of extraordinary dynamism and diversity. "On this occasion, we celebrate the holy month of Ramadan and we also celebrate how much Muslims have enriched America and its culture in ways both large and small," the president said.....

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com...at-ramadan-dinner-2009-09-02


    and the dinner:

    http://www.finefoodnow.com/images/categories/whole-pork-loin.jpg

    3753.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 01:08 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Pushing my buttons.....? it seems you are the one who is going off all the time.  Not only with me, but many others.  I have not stooped to personal attacks.  Anything I have said is based on an analysis of situations.  I am not commenting on my like, dislike, approval of others personal attributes.

     

    "whack job"....look who is talking.....perhaps this should be in the menopause thread,  due to the fact you certainly are exhibiting symptoms of hormonal imbalance....irritability and mood swings.  It is called perimenopause....and you are definitly in it.

     

    There is no shame to be in menopause.  It is a natural part of a woman´s life.  I don´t know why so many get upset about the natural progression of life´s stages.

     

     Poor little alameda, soooooo in denial.   How fun to see you jump on tami´s bandwagon!  Don´t you just feel better now????   ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!  

     

    And since you are interested as well, I run just like clockwork!  No perimenopause here but when the time comes I will be sure and ask your advice to see how you got through it. 

    3754.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 01:12 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Poor little alameda, soooooo in denial.   How fun to see you jump on tami´s bandwagon!  Don´t you just feel better now????   ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!  

     

    And since you are interested as well, I run just like clockwork!  No perimenopause here but when the time comes I will be sure and ask your advice to see how you got through it. 

     

    http://www.sitevip.net/gifs/alarm_clock/clock_017_animado.gif

    3755.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 02:20 am

     Laugh at

    Quoting thehandsom

    Obama praises Islam at Ramadan dinner

     

    US President Barack Obama .... hosts a dinner celebrating Ramadan.

    U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday praised Islam as an integral part of America, as he feted prominent U.S. Muslims at an Iftar dinner marking the holy fasting month of Ramadan.

     

    "For well over a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection," Obama said, in remarks welcoming his guests in the State Dining Room of the White House. "Tonight´s Iftar is a ritual that is being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states," Obama said.

     

    "Islam as we know is part of America. Like the broader American citizenry, the American Muslim community is one of extraordinary dynamism and diversity. "On this occasion, we celebrate the holy month of Ramadan and we also celebrate how much Muslims have enriched America and its culture in ways both large and small," the president said.....

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com...at-ramadan-dinner-2009-09-02


    and the dinner:

    http://www.finefoodnow.com/images/categories/whole-pork-loin.jpg

     

     Hey it´s missing something...where is the barbeque sauce?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)  That´s not right!No way

    3756.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 02:24 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass.  But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.  

     

     

     How do you really feel GG? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) Don´t you have any more EAP cards you can give out?Big smile

    3757.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 09:04 pm

     

    Gay revenge on Kusadasi..?

     

    A cruise ship that was expected to visit Kusadasi on Wednesday excluded the Aegean town from its destinations list in response to an incident nine years earlier in which an all-gay cruise was denied entrance to the city.

     

    ´Olympic Voyager,´ flying a Greek flag, was carrying more than 2,500 gay cruise tourists. The cruise tour was operated by Atlantis, a U.S.-based travel agency that caters to gays and lesbians. The ship will stay another day in Mykonos instead of Kusadasi.

    ....

    The same cruise ship visited Kusadasi with a gay group of 800 nine years ago, but the police in Kusadasi prevented them from visiting the ancient city of Ephesus and from entering the town.

     

    Ali Karapinar, president of the Kusadasi Tour Guides Association, told reporters that the travel agency had ´finally had its revenge on Kusadasi.´

     

    Shop owners in the town were shocked by the decision, and the total loss to Kusadasi is estimated to be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

     

    ..................

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/..-kustu-2009-09-03

     

    AFP photo

     

     

    3758.       foka
    597 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 10:47 pm

    now i exactly see for what are you looking for during worktime thehandsome

    very nice , your boss need to see it

     

    and by the way today at 11.00 am  born my new cousin and my eyes  were with him,  he is sweet and his name is ANTONI

     

    hugs

     

    3759.       birdy
    245 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 11:03 pm

     

    Quoting foka

     

     

    and by the way today at 11.00 am  born my new cousin and my eyes  were with him,  he is sweet and his name is ANTONI

     

     

     

     Congratulations))Tami will be happy,increase in Dabrowskis population is his nightmare...and pain in the neck..

     

    3760.       portokal
    2516 posts
     03 Sep 2009 Thu 11:31 pm

    TC got my eyes today.

    3761.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Sep 2009 Fri 11:44 am

    Holy terrorists!


    Pictures of ´holy terrorists´ to be removed from exhibition

    Art exhibition including seven paintings of female suicide bombers depicted as Madonna holding baby Jesus in their laps slated to open Thursday at Journalists´ Association in Tel Aviv.

    Following protest, association says will remove paintings.

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/....-enthusiasts-1781477.html

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3771667,00.html

     


    3762.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 Sep 2009 Fri 08:40 pm

    Finally some good news about women who are NOT supermodels!!

     

    Skinny thighs could spell your doom

    Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:05 PM PT

    By JoNel Aleccia

    At last, good news for anyone who ever despaired of fitting into skinny jeans: Thin thighs might actually kill you. Or at least put a strain on your heart.

    That’s the word from Danish researchers who studied more than 2,800 middle-aged people for up to a dozen years, only to find that those with the slimmest thighs had the highest chance of heart disease and premature death.

    “There was up to a double risk for the people with the smallest thighs,” said Dr. Berit L. Heitmann, a director of research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark. “It’s quite substantial.”

    People whose thighs measured less than 60 centimeters, or about 23.6 inches in circumference, were in trouble. And those with stick-thin gams (less than 18 inches around) were at the greatest risk, according to new study in the online version of the British Medical Journal.
    Image: Skinny thighs could kill you
    Stefan Gosatti / Getty Images file
     


    By that measure, supermodels everywhere would be in grave danger, while those who one fitness expert described as “normal-sized people,” would be in the pink.

    “Typically a 23.6-inch thigh on a female would be a size 6 to 8,” said Greg Benson, president of the International Sports and Fitness Trainers Association.
    Read the rest of the story at.......

    3763.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     04 Sep 2009 Fri 09:04 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    “There was up to a double risk for the people with the smallest thighs,” said Dr. Berit L. Heitmann, a director of research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark. “It’s quite substantial.”

     

    We knew it all along that these pathetic and sick so-called-beauty standards are only harmful and making us sick, but guess who came up with them in the first place... (hint: not women!) You crazy? 

    3764.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     04 Sep 2009 Fri 09:21 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    We knew it all along that these pathetic and sick so-called-beauty standards are only harmful and making us sick, but guess who came up with them in the first place... (hint: not women!) You crazy? 

     

    Well, clothes look best on clothes hangers, so no wonder models resemble them lol.

    I´m really happy to hear that my thunder thighs turned out to be good for something lol.

     

     

    3765.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 Sep 2009 Fri 09:25 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Well, clothes look best on clothes hangers, so no wonder models resemble them lol.

     

     

     Never heard this expression before....I LOVE IT! 

    3766.       _AE_
    677 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:17 am

    Welcome back Armegon - its nice to see you here again

    3767.       armegon
    1872 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 03:05 am

     

    Quoting _AE_

    Welcome back Armegon - its nice to see you here again

     

     Thank you dear _AE_Thank you, thank you!Flowers, it is nice to see you here again and it is nice to be in thehandsom´s class as well

    3768.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:25 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    Thank you dear _AE_Thank you, thank you!Flowers, it is nice to see you here again and it is nice to be in thehandsom´s class as well

     

    Welcome back Armegon to Thehandsom Class! Thank you, thank you!We have a variety of classes, for all levels (we recommend that you start with the beginner level), you can practice with exercises, there is pronounciation for larger texts, as well as vocabulary quizzes. We also offer thehandsom double-click dictionary, just click anywhere on the site, and you will be taken to the dictionary that will explain the meaning of whatever you don´t understand. There are also other materials available here, from which  you can learn more about Thehandsom´s history and culture. We hope you will find them all useful and that you will enjoy what we have prepared here for you. Thank you, thank you!

    3769.       armegon
    1872 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:41 am

     Hehe thanks,  woow im very happy that im upgraded to thehandsom´s class after catwoman´s class, beginner will be fine as i am far away from here for about six monthsWink...

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Welcome back Armegon to Thehandsom Class! Thank you, thank you!We have a variety of classes, for all levels (we recommend that you start with the beginner level), you can practice with exercises, there is pronounciation for larger texts, as well as vocabulary quizzes. We also offer thehandsom double-click dictionary, just click anywhere on the site, and you will be taken to the dictionary that will explain the meaning of whatever you don´t understand. There are also other materials available here, from which  you can learn more about Thehandsom´s history and culture. We hope you will find them all useful and that you will enjoy what we have prepared here for you. Thank you, thank you!

     

     

    3770.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 10:52 am

    No YouTube ban in Turkey!!  Alcoholics - first time I tried a linke for ages without a proxy server and it worked!!  But will it last Unsure..

    3771.       armegon
    1872 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 11:36 am

    This->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwdvpr5wwXc  horrifying...

    3772.       _AE_
    677 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:04 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Welcome back Armegon to Thehandsom Class! Thank you, thank you!We have a variety of classes, for all levels (we recommend that you start with the beginner level), you can practice with exercises, there is pronounciation for larger texts, as well as vocabulary quizzes. We also offer thehandsom double-click dictionary, just click anywhere on the site, and you will be taken to the dictionary that will explain the meaning of whatever you don´t understand. There are also other materials available here, from which  you can learn more about Thehandsom´s history and culture. We hope you will find them all useful and that you will enjoy what we have prepared here for you. Thank you, thank you!

     

     lollollol

    Very good DrC - you made me laugh out loud



    Edited (9/5/2009) by _AE_
    Edited (9/5/2009) by _AE_

    3773.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:36 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    This->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwdvpr5wwXc  horrifying...

     

    Horrifying is right.......Sad.....and I don´t speak Dutch but I recognise Hahaha when I see it.  I can´t believe the callousness of some people who comment on video clips like this. You crazy?

    3774.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:48 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Horrifying is right.......Sad.....and I don´t speak Dutch but I recognise Hahaha when I see it.  I can´t believe the callousness of some people who comment on video clips like this. You crazy?

     

    I read the first 5 pages with comments and the ´haha´ + other comments made me sick.  Happily most other posts were very much showing dislike at these sicko´s.

     

    3775.       _AE_
    677 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 02:19 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Horrifying is right.......Sad.....and I don´t speak Dutch but I recognise Hahaha when I see it.  I can´t believe the callousness of some people who comment on video clips like this. You crazy?

     

     Horrifying indeed.  The sad thing is that policeman is himself at fault - he actually waits and then blocks that road lane with the large lorry as the next vehicle.  This means that until the lorry actually moves over to the other lane, the cars behind are unaware of the policeman and can´t see him until there are just seconds to spare....

     

    It seems a really unsafe thing to attempt, even without the lorry because vehicles were still using the other lane which the blocked lane had to move into.  He should have waited until there was a bigger space int he traffic.

    3776.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 02:46 pm

    Nato airstrike kills 90 including 40 civilians in Afghanistan

     

    At least 95 people were killed yesterday , a large number of them civilians, in a US air strike in Kunduz Province, Afghanistan. Though the US denied that any of the people killed were civilians, NATO acknowledged that there was “a possibility” that some civilians were killed.

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/as...r-strike-kills-95-1782090.html

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n..in-afghanistan-14481324.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/.....-strike-1782090.html

     

    3777.       _AE_
    677 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 04:04 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Though the US denied that any of the people killed were civilians, NATO acknowledged that there was “a possibility” that some civilians were killed.

     

    Just in case there is still doubt that the west is subject to censorship and propaganda...:-

     

    " Western forces were engulfed in bitter controversy yesterday after Nato air strikes on two oil tankers hijacked by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan led to carnage with a fireball killing 95 people, dozens of them civilians.

     

     

    Most of those who perished were burned to death. Nato initially insisted that all the dead were Taliban insurgents but later, after angry protests from residents and officials, they acknowledged there had been civilian deaths.

     

    The attack at the village of Haji Aman, around seven miles from Kunduz, could not have come at a more volatile time in Afghanistan, with intense anger over civilian casualties and an intensifying clash between President Hamid Karzai and Washington over the disputed national election. The incumbent President has repeatedly complained about civilian deaths from Nato air strikes".

     

    Taken from the link from The Independent newspaper.

      No way



    Edited (9/5/2009) by _AE_

    3778.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 04:22 pm

    Women: masters of deception

     

    Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.

     

    Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?

     

    The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.

     

    It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please  and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)

    They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    So be warned, patriarchy  you´re grooming women for infidelity!Scared

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/...he-law-1782100.html

     


    3779.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 04:29 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Women: masters of deception

     

    Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.

     

    Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?

     

    The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.

     

    It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please  and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)

    They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    So be warned, patriarchy  you´re grooming women for infidelity!Scared

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/...he-law-1782100.html

     


    Anybody can say anything after one is dead.

     

    I have had a 10 year affair with Michael Jackson and I was really the inspiration for "Dirty Diana"(I made him change the name) lol

     

    How about that?

     

    3780.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 04:35 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    Anybody can say anything after one is dead.

     

    I have had a 10 year affair with Michael Jackson and I was really the inspiration for "Dirty Diana"(I made him change the name) lol

     

    How about that?

     

    Well it obviously  proves the point :

    "YOU/women´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    You/women were groomed for infidelity by the  patriarchy" 

    lol 

     

    3781.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 04:41 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Well it obviously  proves the point :

    "YOU/women´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    You/women were groomed for infidelity by the  patriarchy" 

    lol 

     

     

     lol Touche!

    3782.       _AE_
    677 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:09 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Women: masters of deception

     

    Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.

     

    Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?

     

    The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.

     

    It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please  and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)

    They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    So be warned, patriarchy  you´re grooming women for infidelity!Scared

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/...he-law-1782100.html

     


     

     Strange reasoning

    The "fact" that women are having more affairs than they used to does not detract from the fact that men also have affairs - so what is your point?  They are better at lying?  Or just maybe not so dumb....

     

    BTW Farrah was married to Lee Majors during Charlie´s Angels (hence her name then, Farrah Fawcett Majors)

    3783.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:19 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Women: masters of deception

     

    Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.

     

    Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?

     

    The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.

     

    It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please  and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)

    They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    So be warned, patriarchy  you´re grooming women for infidelity!Scared

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/...he-law-1782100.html

     


     

     

    such a stupid article, with such stupid generalizations.. You crazy? whoever wrote it, clearly has zero insight.

    3784.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:32 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    such a stupid article, with such stupid generalizations.. You crazy? whoever wrote it, clearly has zero insight.

     

    Well sorry to say but the writer seems a lady ..Amy Jenkins

    3785.       libralady
    5152 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:46 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Women: masters of deception

     

    Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.

     

    Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?

     

    The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.

     

    It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please  and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)

    They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.

    So be warned, patriarchy  you´re grooming women for infidelity!Scared

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/...he-law-1782100.html

     


     

     

     Women: masters of deception

    Perhaps because we learn from men! Satisfied nod

    3786.       libralady
    5152 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:56 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Finally some good news about women who are NOT supermodels!!

     

    Skinny thighs could spell your doom

    Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:05 PM PT

    By JoNel Aleccia

    At last, good news for anyone who ever despaired of fitting into skinny jeans: Thin thighs might actually kill you. Or at least put a strain on your heart.

    That’s the word from Danish researchers who studied more than 2,800 middle-aged people for up to a dozen years, only to find that those with the slimmest thighs had the highest chance of heart disease and premature death.

    “There was up to a double risk for the people with the smallest thighs,” said Dr. Berit L. Heitmann, a director of research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark. “It’s quite substantial.”

    People whose thighs measured less than 60 centimeters, or about 23.6 inches in circumference, were in trouble. And those with stick-thin gams (less than 18 inches around) were at the greatest risk, according to new study in the online version of the British Medical Journal.
    Image: Skinny thighs could kill you
    Stefan Gosatti / Getty Images file
     


    By that measure, supermodels everywhere would be in grave danger, while those who one fitness expert described as “normal-sized people,” would be in the pink.

    “Typically a 23.6-inch thigh on a female would be a size 6 to 8,” said Greg Benson, president of the International Sports and Fitness Trainers Association.
    Read the rest of the story at.......

     

     Oh dear, my thighs have never been that big, and I would not say I am skinny by no means!!  I just went and measured mine and they are 20".  So I am a bit of trouble then! Cry I take it the size 6 to 8 is the USA sizing??  I am a UK size 10 (now hehehe)  

     

    One day we will all be able to live quite happily doing what we want when we want without it leading to premature death Alcoholics  Next thing will be "too many unwanted gifts on facebook will lead to mental health problems" <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3787.       _AE_
    677 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 06:09 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     Next thing will be "too many unwanted gifts on facebook will lead to mental health problems" <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

    3788.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 07:53 pm

    Aids is a mass murderer campain


    The campaign, designed by the German firm das comitee, features posters of Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Joseph Stalin engaging in unprotected sexual intercourse (see slideshow below) to emphasize the campaign´s "AIDS Is A Mass Murderer" tagline. 

    ,.....



    http://www.aiem.de/typo3/index.php?id=aids_kampagne&L=1

    http://www.examiner.com/x-1916-...itler-Hussein-Stalin-having-sex

     

    It is quite peculiar I must say Unsure

    3789.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 11:23 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Well sorry to say but the writer seems a lady ..Amy Jenkins

     

    what´s the deal about the author being a lady, whoever it is, she/he has no insight into what she/he wrote!

    3790.       bydand
    755 posts
     05 Sep 2009 Sat 11:46 pm

    Handsom you will have to go and sit on the naughty step.  What the hell!  This is not the sort of thing catwoman wants to read on here. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)   On the other hand if you were finding fault with the male species you would be lauded.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3791.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 12:04 am

     

    Quoting bydand

    Handsom you will have to go and sit on the naughty step.  What the hell!  This is not the sort of thing catwoman wants to read on here. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)   On the other hand if you were finding fault with the male species you would be lauded.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    canim, are you losing it? ScaredYou crazy?

    3792.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 12:51 am

    Poland beat Turkey in valleyball 3:0. Dobrowskis rule!!! Thank you, thank you!

     

    (Good thing (for Poland) we´re not in the same group in the World Cup qualifiers! Big smile )

    3793.       baklava
    16 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 01:02 am

     

    Quoting Melek74

    Poland beat Turkey in valleyball 3:0. Dobrowskis rule!!! Thank you, thank you!

     

    (Good thing (for Poland) we´re not in the same group in the World Cup qualifiers! Big smile )

     

     What is Volleyball? Who watches it?

    3794.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 01:12 am

     

    Quoting baklava

     

     

     What is Volleyball? Who watches it?

     

    only Dobrowskis watch it

     

    They are pretty eccentric<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3795.       armegon
    1872 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 01:14 am

     Congratulations to Dobrowskis , Poland is very at volleyball in both women and men

    Quoting Melek74

    Poland beat Turkey in valleyball 3:0. Dobrowskis rule!!! Thank you, thank you!

     

    (Good thing (for Poland) we´re not in the same group in the World Cup qualifiers! Big smile )

     

     

    3796.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 01:23 am

     

    Quoting baklava

     

     

     What is Volleyball? Who watches it?

     

    Not me! Sports are sooo boring

    3797.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 01:31 am

    Dobrowskis` women`s team sounds hot to me. I wouldn`t mind getting beaten by them. RazzBig smile

    3798.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 02:29 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    Dobrowskis` women`s team sounds hot to me. I wouldn`t mind getting beaten by them. RazzBig smile

     

    we don´t waste time on perverted dudes

    3799.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 02:42 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    we don´t waste time on perverted dudes

     

    fine, there is always the British women`s team for us sapik dudes, so no problem. Razz

    3800.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 04:45 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    fine, there is always the British women`s team for us sapik dudes, so no problem. Razz

     

    perfect!

    3801.       _AE_
    677 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 04:03 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    fine, there is always the British women`s team for us sapik dudes, so no problem. Razz

     

     Hate to disappoint but Women´s teams in this event are mostly lesbian and butch! lollollol

    3802.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     06 Sep 2009 Sun 05:16 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Hate to disappoint but Women´s teams in this event are mostly lesbian and butch! lollollol

     

    Perfect for Tami, since all he can do is watch. Big smile 

    3803.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     07 Sep 2009 Mon 08:11 am

     

    Quoting libralady

       Next thing will be "too many unwanted gifts on facebook will lead to mental health problems" <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     You said you liked the burka!!!  Rant

    3804.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     07 Sep 2009 Mon 01:53 pm

    ´Race-hate´ gang beats devout Muslim to brink of death in front of his granddaughter, three

     

    Victim Ekram Haque who is in hospital after being beaten by a racist gang outside a Mosque

    A Muslim pensioner was on the brink of death last night after an appalling race-hate attack by a gang of schoolboys. 

    Retired care worker Ekram Haque, 67, was battered to the ground in front of his three-year- old granddaughter Marian. 

    Doctors have told his family he has no chance of survival. Last night he was on a ventilator as friends and relatives paid their last respects. 

    Police are linking the attack to other assaults on elderly Asians. The attackers, who were black and wore hooded tops, are believed to be as young as 12.

    Mr Haque, a devout Muslim, was ambushed as he left his local mosque in Tooting, South-West London, where he had been attending evening prayers during the holy month of Ramadan.


     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211556/M..-attack.html

     

    Racism should be scraped from the earth!!

     

    3805.       alameda
    3499 posts
     07 Sep 2009 Mon 06:43 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    ´Race-hate´ gang beats devout Muslim to brink of death in front of his granddaughter, three

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211556/M..-attack.html

    Racism should be scraped from the earth!!

     

     

    I heartily agree....now I hope that little treasure can erase that horrid scene from her mind and heart.

     

    What is it with all this hatred and intolerance?

    3806.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     07 Sep 2009 Mon 10:43 pm

     Contraception myths ´widespread´ in the UK..

     

    A UK survey has revealed that myths about contraception may be widespread.

    One in five women said they had heard of...

    .....

    MYTHS THAT STILL EXIST

    Chicken skin and cling film as barrier methods

    Kebabs, crisps and chocolate as oral contraceptives (I am still thinking what ´as oral contraceptives ´ might mean in this context!!!!)

    The pill as protection against HIV

    ...

    Contraceptive myths have been around for thousands of years.

    Ancient methods have varied from crocodile dung and honey before sex (did they eat it?  Scared  , to sea sponges and beeswax after.

    Perhaps the most intoxicating was alcohol made from stewed beaver´s testicles. (never heard of this one I must say!! lol )

    However, it seems that a variety of unsafe and unproven methods might still exist in modern Britain.

    .....

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8238789.stm

     

    Just be careful with British ladies guys..

    3807.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     08 Sep 2009 Tue 08:19 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     Contraception myths ´widespread´ in the UK..

     

    A UK survey has revealed that myths about contraception may be widespread.

    One in five women said they had heard of...

    .....

    MYTHS THAT STILL EXIST

    Chicken skin and cling film as barrier methods

    Kebabs, crisps and chocolate as oral contraceptives (I am still thinking what ´as oral contraceptives ´ might mean in this context!!!!)

    The pill as protection against HIV

    ...

    Contraceptive myths have been around for thousands of years.

    Ancient methods have varied from crocodile dung and honey before sex (did they eat it?  Scared  , to sea sponges and beeswax after.

    Perhaps the most intoxicating was alcohol made from stewed beaver´s testicles. (never heard of this one I must say!! lol )

    However, it seems that a variety of unsafe and unproven methods might still exist in modern Britain.

    .....

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8238789.stm

     

    Just be careful with British ladies guys..

     

     In the early nineties I taught health science to kids of 12-14, including sex education. One of the weirdest ideas I heard was that Coca Cola was a contraceptive. Afterwards (...) a woman should rinse herself inside with the stuff to avoid getting pregnant.....  You crazy? (I´m not sure if they thought it also works with Diet Coke.. lol lol )

    3808.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     08 Sep 2009 Tue 11:06 pm

    The hands-free facelift kit on sale for £300

     

    It looks likely to become the must-have beauty product of the autumn  and the waiting list is already more than 2,000 long.

     

    Slendertone Face is the latest attempt to fight the ageing process and goes on sale at Harrods today.

     

    At £300, the headset device claims to produce a "natural facelift" that is cheaper and less intrusive than cosmetic surgery and more cost-effective than regular filler injections.

     

    The product uses electronic muscle stimulation technology that has been used in hospitals for more than 40 years for muscle rehabilitation. Clinical trials showed that use reversed the muscle wastage that comes with age, plumping and rejuvenating the face.

     

    .....

    From this to this..wow

     

      

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk...free+facelift+kit+on+sale+for+300/article.do

     

    My present to tc ladies


    3809.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 01:11 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    The hands-free facelift kit on sale for £300

     

    It looks likely to become the must-have beauty product of the autumn  and the waiting list is already more than 2,000 long.

     

    Slendertone Face is the latest attempt to fight the ageing process and goes on sale at Harrods today.

     

    At £300, the headset device claims to produce a "natural facelift" that is cheaper and less intrusive than cosmetic surgery and more cost-effective than regular filler injections.

     

    The product uses electronic muscle stimulation technology that has been used in hospitals for more than 40 years for muscle rehabilitation. Clinical trials showed that use reversed the muscle wastage that comes with age, plumping and rejuvenating the face.

     

    .....

    From this to this..wow

     

      

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk...free+facelift+kit+on+sale+for+300/article.do

     

    My present to tc ladies


     

     Aw so very thoughful but I think if the TC ladies club together and got you this.....it would be a much better use of the £300 pounds.....AND no wrinkles in sight

     

    3810.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 02:22 am

    a typical American... never surprises me! <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3811.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 03:20 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    a typical American... never surprises me! <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    awww Tami, how glad to hear you´ve finally found a place that you fit in lol

     

    3812.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 03:54 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    awww Tami, how glad to hear you´ve finally found a place that you fit in lol

     

     

    And he can even make his own signs! Big smile

     

    3813.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 03:58 am

    Ahhh.. Roswitha is back!! AlcoholicsFlowers

    3814.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 03:58 am

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    And he can even make his own signs! Big smile

     

     

     

     

    He is just being politically correct! Ninja

    3815.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 04:02 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

     

     

    He is just being politically correct! Ninja

     

    Sure he is. After all juice is also one of Muslime´s enamis. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    34394843232327ffp64ot2336679-xroqdf23238668393ot1lsi

    3816.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 04:07 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

     

     

    He is just being politically correct! Ninja

     

    At least he can express his hatered for juice, until your buddies get their way at least:

     

     

    Scared

     

    Is that what you call an oxi-moran? Unsure<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



    Edited (9/9/2009) by Melek74

    3817.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 04:17 am

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    At least he can express his hatered for juice, until your buddies get their way at least:

     

     

    Scared

     

    Is that what you call an oxi-moran? Unsure<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    no but this

     

    Quote:

    hatered

     

    makes me think if you have a personal tie to the guy holding the sign. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3818.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 07:35 am

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    34394843232327ffp64ot2336679-xroqdf23238668393ot1lsi

     

    Unfortunately, this sign is right... although I wouldn´t limit it to bush and blair.. but to the US and UK overall.

    3819.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 12:01 pm

    Why women have sex....

     

    ....

    From relieving boredom, to keeping the peace in a relationship or even curing a headache, the reasons for succumbing to the advances of the opposite sex are many and varied. 

     

    Romance and passion, it has to be said, comes rather low down the list, according to a new book. 

     

    One woman even admitted to having sex just so her husband would put the rubbish out. 

    ....

    ´Research has shown that most men find most women at least somewhat sexually attractive, whereas most women do not find most men sexually attractive at all,´ conclude the authors, both psychology professors at the University of Texas. 

    ....

    One said she did it for a spiritual experience, proclaiming: ´It´s the closest thing to God.´ 

     

    ... with 84 per cent admitting to having sex just to ensure a quiet life or to bargain-for household chores. 

     

    One woman explained: ´I have sex to relieve the boredom  -  because it´s easier than fighting. Plus it gives me something to do.´ For others, it provides an unlikely cure for a migraine or stress headache. 

     

    While it may not come as welcome news, some women have sex out of sympathy, with one admitting: ´I slept with a couple of guys because I felt sorry for them.´ 

     

    But most have selfish motives, with financial or material rewards a major factor behind many sexual encounters. 

     

    In one survey of students carried out by the researchers, nearly one in ten women admitted to ´having sex for presents´. 

    ...

     

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.....n-favours-stop-headache.html

     

     

    3820.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 03:48 pm

     

     

     Heh heh these excuses must stem from realism and acceptance that having sex for an orgasm is just not achievable for some <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3821.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 04:32 pm

    H, this is the king/queen of all ridiculous surveys!  Did they interview anyone who was actually happy in general?   

    3822.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 05:20 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    H, this is the king/queen of all ridiculous surveys!  Did they interview anyone who was actually happy in general?   

     

    Yeah yeah..

    Truth hurts!

    This survey exposed  all  lies YOU ladies told us all those years!!

    It seems like you even dont find men attractive generically!!

     

    I still dont believe you lots would do it just for ´putting out the dusbin´ lol



    Edited (9/9/2009) by thehandsom

    3823.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 05:30 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Yeah yeah..

    Truth hurts!

    This survey exposed  all  lies YOU ladies told us all those years!!

    It seems like you even dont find men attractive generically!!

     

    I still dont believe you lots would do it just for ´putting out the dusbin´ lol

     

     I can put out my own dusbin, thank you very much. 

    3824.       libralady
    5152 posts
     09 Sep 2009 Wed 10:31 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Why women have sex....

     

    ....

    From relieving boredom, to keeping the peace in a relationship or even curing a headache, the reasons for succumbing to the advances of the opposite sex are many and varied. 

     

    Romance and passion, it has to be said, comes rather low down the list, according to a new book. 

     

    One woman even admitted to having sex just so her husband would put the rubbish out. 

    ....

    ´Research has shown that most men find most women at least somewhat sexually attractive, whereas most women do not find most men sexually attractive at all,´ conclude the authors, both psychology professors at the University of Texas. 

    ....

    One said she did it for a spiritual experience, proclaiming: ´It´s the closest thing to God.´ 

     

    ... with 84 per cent admitting to having sex just to ensure a quiet life or to bargain-for household chores. 

     

    One woman explained: ´I have sex to relieve the boredom  -  because it´s easier than fighting. Plus it gives me something to do.´ For others, it provides an unlikely cure for a migraine or stress headache. 

     

    While it may not come as welcome news, some women have sex out of sympathy, with one admitting: ´I slept with a couple of guys because I felt sorry for them.´ 

     

    But most have selfish motives, with financial or material rewards a major factor behind many sexual encounters. 

     

    In one survey of students carried out by the researchers, nearly one in ten women admitted to ´having sex for presents´. 

    ...

     

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.....n-favours-stop-headache.html

     

     

     

    Suppose it all beats having sex for fun <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

    3825.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     10 Sep 2009 Thu 01:08 am

    And that is what happens when your partner/boyfriend/husband sucks in bed!!!

    3826.       libralady
    5152 posts
     10 Sep 2009 Thu 02:18 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    And that is what happens when your partner/boyfriend/husband sucks in bed!!!

     

     Unfortunate turn of phrase <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3827.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     11 Sep 2009 Fri 11:43 am

    This lady´s beautiful horse sculptures made entirely from driftwood she collects from the beaches around her home.

    3828.       birdy
    245 posts
     11 Sep 2009 Fri 03:23 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    This lady´s beautiful horse sculptures made entirely from driftwood she collects from the beaches around her home.

     

     LIR,incredible,thanx for sharing)))

    3829.       armegon
    1872 posts
     11 Sep 2009 Fri 05:37 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_h3hyifCsU Smile

    3830.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     11 Sep 2009 Fri 06:11 pm

     

     

    How fantastic to be able to draw/paint like that!  There are other portraits on the link as well - equally amazing. 

    3831.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     11 Sep 2009 Fri 10:02 pm

    World’s oldest person dies in Los Angeles at 115


     


    LOS ANGELES - The world´s oldest known person has died in Los Angeles at age 115.


    Gertrude Baines died Friday at a hospital, said Dr. Charles Witt. The doctor said she likely suffered a heart attack but an autopsy would be needed to confirm her cause of death.


    Baines was born in 1894 in Shellman, Ga. She became the world´s oldest living person when a 115-year-old woman, Maria de Jesus, died in Portugal in January.


     


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32799091/ns/us_news-life/?GT1=43001

    3832.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     12 Sep 2009 Sat 12:31 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    World’s oldest person dies in Los Angeles at 115

     

     

    My greatgrandmother died at 118! true, for the last 3 years of her life she´d do nothing but lie in bed and pray. My grandma, who was taking care of her, was ashamed of the elderly senior as "people don´t live that long". BTW, my grandma is at good health at the age of 90 and my grandpa died at 96 (having smoked and drunk all life long). I hope I haven´t inherited this "almost-immortal" gene lol

    3833.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     12 Sep 2009 Sat 12:40 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    my grandpa died at 96 (having smoked and drunk all life long).

    good news for junkies! Alcoholics<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3834.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Sep 2009 Sat 01:11 am

    If he gets an erection, she will get 1 to 3  years in jail, if not 8 years.. 

    ...

    Guys, here´s a sharp reminder why you shouldn´t make your wife/girlfriend/lover angry when you´re dead, stinking drunk.

     

    ..Turkish woman whose jail sentence hangs on whether or not her former lover regains full use of his penis. Earlier this year the woman had, in a fit of anger, cut off her drunken lover´s penis and thrown it from their apartment window..

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/l...rt-awaits-genital-recovery.aspx

    http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE58952W20090910

     

    Satire:

     

    ...In fact, this story should serve as a reminder to every Tom, Harry and, especially, Dick that they cannot tool around with the affections of a woman.

     

    Court hearings, we are informed, will continue from time to time. In other words, it will be a ding dong process.

     

    The extent to which the woman will be given the judicial shaft depends on the future functionality of the dismembered member, but it appears that she will not be spared the rod.

     

    It is heartening to note that the judicial process will take its time and not rush into a decision half-cocked.

     

    I wonder if they have an official pecker checker process. If there are no volunteers for that job, someone may be forced into it willy-nilly.

     

    Eventually, I guess interest in this case will peter out.

     

    But, if everything returns to normal for the man, we can conclusively proclaim, "The penis, mightier than the sword". lol lol lol 

     

    http://desicritics.org/2009/09/11/102941.php

    3835.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     12 Sep 2009 Sat 06:11 pm

    Yaawwwnnnnnnnn.... any other erection news theH? Unsure

    3836.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     13 Sep 2009 Sun 08:27 pm

    college life

     

    Every New Semester

    After 1st Week:

    After 2nd Week:

    Before the Mid-Term Exam:

    During The Mid-Term Exam:

    After The Mid-Term Exam:

    Before the Final Exam:

    Once We get the Schedule of Final exam:

    7 Days Before Final exam:

    6 Days Before Final exam:

    5 Days Before Final exam:


    4 Days Before Final exam:

    3 Days Before Final exam:

    2 Days Before Final exam:

    1 Days Before Final exam:

    Night Before the final exam:

    1 Hour before the final exam:

    During the final exams:

    once walk out of the examination room:

    After the final exam during the holiday:

    That’s College!!!

    3837.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 08:15 am



    Man says condom was in burger, sues

    A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant. Van Miguel Hartless, 24...

    A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant.

    Van Miguel Hartless, 24, of Fair Haven, said Friday he bought the Southwestern Whopper at a Burger King in Rutland on June 18 and made the discovery at home. "My third bite into the burger, it was just a foreign taste," he said. "As I went to bite down a little harder, I felt a rubber grind in between my teeth."

    The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.

    There was no comment from Burger King or Carrols.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I wonder if it was a used one.Puking Condom burger! anyone?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3838.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 12:23 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.

    There was no comment from Burger King or Carrols.

     

     

    Ewww...how really disgusting! It probably was a disgrunteled employee.  There have been numerous reports of employees taking venting their frustration in rather disgusting manners.

     

    That is one of the reasons I hate to eat out.

    3839.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 01:33 pm

    Perhaps Burger King are encouraging responsible habits in promoting safe sex...... hmmm Roll eyes you know how excited these boys get post burger eating!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3840.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 01:45 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

    Perhaps Burger King are encouraging responsible habits in promoting safe sex...... hmmm Roll eyes you know how excited these boys get post burger eating!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

     

    That is what I was thinking actually..

    Burger King should be praised for their contribution for promoting safe sex and for their efforts to curb the world´s population.  

    They dont deserve condemnation at all...

    3841.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 03:44 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz



    Man says condom was in burger, sues

    ...

    The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.

     

    Jesus Christ, the condom was wrapped and unopened. What pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses? He should get an apology and some free burgers and assurance the employee who did that would get fired. Some people will sue over anything. Easy money.

    3842.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 03:54 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Jesus Christ, the condom was wrapped and unopened. What pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses? He should get an apology and some free burgers and assurance the employee who did that would get fired. Some people will sue over anything. Easy money.

    You crazy?

     

    it clearly says that it was unwrapped, and probably used!Puking<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3843.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 03:54 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

    Jesus Christ, the condom was wrapped and unopened. What pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses? He should get an apology and some free burgers and assurance the employee who did that would get fired. Some people will sue over anything. Easy money.

     

    It was unwrapped apparently - ´found an unwrapped condom inside  ´

    but I did wonder how he had suffered pain and emotional duress!   Is that like ´emotional stress´ or did they mean ´emotional Durex´??  Maybe he suffers from condom phobia??  Unsure


     

    3844.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 04:08 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

    You crazy?

     

    it clearly says that it was unwrapped, and probably used!Puking<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    Bugger off Tami.

     

    3845.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 04:10 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    It was unwrapped apparently - ´found an unwrapped condom inside  ´

    but I did wonder how he had suffered pain and emotional duress!   Is that like ´emotional stress´ or did they mean ´emotional Durex´??  Maybe he suffers from condom phobia??  Unsure


     

    Well I guess I misread it. But still, when I hear about the emotional pain and suffering, it makes me cringe. Those people don´t know what emotional pain and suffering is. 

     

    3846.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 04:21 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    Well I guess I misread it. But still, when I hear about the emotional pain and suffering, it makes me cringe. Those people don´t know what emotional pain and suffering is. 

     

     

    With you 100% there!

    3847.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 04:33 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    Bugger off Tami.

     

     

    Ha ha..

    But this seems like an  old news from 2007 :

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641296256?f=rss

     

    3848.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 07:16 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

    Bugger off Tami.

     

     

     

    is this what they call redneck english? What the hell!

    3849.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 07:42 pm

     

    Baby with 12 LITTLE FINGERS AND 12 LITTLE TOES

     

     The caption reads:

     Having extra fingers or toes is extremely common in Cohen´s dad´s family.. his grandmother had them, as did his mum, four of her siblings and ..´s younger brother and sister. But they all had the extra digits removed as babies. ... 

       

     

    The news:

    http://www.nzwomansweekly.co.......le-toes/story/3797221/

     

     

     



    Edited (9/14/2009) by thehandsom

    3850.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     14 Sep 2009 Mon 09:35 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Baby with 12 LITTLE FINGERS AND 12 LITTLE TOES

     

     The caption reads:

     Having extra fingers or toes is extremely common in Cohen´s dad´s family.. his grandmother had them, as did his mum, four of her siblings and ..´s younger brother and sister. But they all had the extra digits removed as babies. ... 

       

     

    The news:

    http://www.nzwomansweekly.co.......le-toes/story/3797221/

     

     

     

     

     So which would be the ring finger or the birdy finger?Roll eyes

    3851.       insallah
    1277 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 12:08 am

    Biggest flash mob yet...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T22VEBznFVo

     

    I still think the T Mobile ones are the best

    3852.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 02:09 am

    Youtube´s gone again!  CryCryCryCryCryCry 



    Edited (9/15/2009) by lady in red

    3853.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 05:03 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Youtube´s gone again!  CryCryCryCryCryCry 

     

    you should be celebrating that there´s no more insults of Ataturk available!

    3854.       libralady
    5152 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 12:39 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz



    Man says condom was in burger, sues

    A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant. Van Miguel Hartless, 24...

    A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant.

    Van Miguel Hartless, 24, of Fair Haven, said Friday he bought the Southwestern Whopper at a Burger King in Rutland on June 18 and made the discovery at home. "My third bite into the burger, it was just a foreign taste," he said. "As I went to bite down a little harder, I felt a rubber grind in between my teeth."

    The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.

    There was no comment from Burger King or Carrols.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I wonder if it was a used one.Puking Condom burger! anyone?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Takes me back to my teens when I worked in a canning factory and it was my job to open the post first thing in the morning.  You should have seen some of the things that people would send back to us that they had found in the cans ...........  what the "naughty" Irish and Maltese temps would put into the cans "for a laugh"......... condoms, flies, rubber gloves, shoe laces, rubbish off the floor, you name it it went into the cans with the beans, peas etc etc

     

    So poor man I feel sooooooo sorry for him! <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3855.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 05:06 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    you should be celebrating that there´s no more insults of Ataturk available!

     

     I know I am!  This is a huge relief for me actually.  My Turkish friends and family don´t have to worry about making that particular decision for themselves today(whether to watch youtube or not)!  Freedom can be such an annoyance...who needs it ?

    3856.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 06:35 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Freedom can be such an annoyance...who needs it ?

     

    ´Freedom´s just another word for nothin´ left to lose´!  

    3857.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 07:18 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    I know I am!  This is a huge relief for me actually.  My Turkish friends and family don´t have to worry about making that particular decision for themselves today(whether to watch youtube or not)!  Freedom can be such an annoyance...who needs it ?

     

    LIR should do the same! Is she thinking that her friends don´t worry about whether she´s watching youtube or not? What the hell!

    3858.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 08:37 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    My greatgrandmother died at 118! true, for the last 3 years of her life she´d do nothing but lie in bed and pray. My grandma, who was taking care of her, was ashamed of the elderly senior as "people don´t live that long". BTW, my grandma is at good health at the age of 90 and my grandpa died at 96 (having smoked and drunk all life long). I hope I haven´t inherited this "almost-immortal" gene lol

     

    Amazing....I also have some long life genes...not as long as you though...mone only got to 100!  A long life is not always what it´s cracked up to be though.  I´ve seen too many older people who can hardly move, can´t see, pee or chew......alive only at the mercy of those taking care of me..........please just let me go.  I think if i am able to interact with life....contribute in a meaningfull way....it´s nice...........but to be an ugly old dehydrated vegetable is not something I would like.

    3859.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 08:39 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    This lady´s beautiful horse sculptures made entirely from driftwood she collects from the beaches around her home.

     

    Wow....those are amazing!  Thank you for posting the link. I have already sent it to a few horse lovers.  You know, I missed this post until now.....

    3860.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 10:03 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Wow....those are amazing!  Thank you for posting the link. I have already sent it to a few horse lovers.  You know, I missed this post until now.....

     

    Bir þey deðil.  She has a gallery reasonably near to where my sister lives - although I never heard of her before.  I think we might try to visit next time we are back in England.

    3861.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Sep 2009 Tue 10:24 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Bir þey deðil.  She has a gallery reasonably near to where my sister lives - although I never heard of her before.  I think we might try to visit next time we are back in England.

     

    Lucky you! Her horses are beautiful, they look like Arabians.  My cousins had a couple Arabians.  She manages to have so much movement in her work.  I saw she also has other creatures....like a bear.

     

    Just noticed she has a book...........I may buy it....Cool



    Edited (9/15/2009) by alameda [add]

    3862.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     16 Sep 2009 Wed 02:56 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

      I think if i am able to interact with life....contribute in a meaningfull way....it´s nice...........but to be an ugly old dehydrated vegetable is not something I would like.

     

    I couldn´t agree more!

    3863.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     16 Sep 2009 Wed 03:55 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

    Amazing....I also have some long life genes...not as long as you though...mone only got to 100!  A long life is not always what it´s cracked up to be though.  I´ve seen too many older people who can hardly move, can´t see, pee or chew......alive only at the mercy of those taking care of me..........please just let me go.  I think if i am able to interact with life....contribute in a meaningfull way....it´s nice...........but to be an ugly old dehydrated vegetable is not something I would like.

     

    Ahhhh.. you can never predict these things. There are some 90+´s running around doing business, while some 50+´s are in nursing homes needing help with using the bathroom... Confused

    3864.       alameda
    3499 posts
     16 Sep 2009 Wed 05:34 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Ahhhh.. you can never predict these things. There are some 90+´s running around doing business, while some 50+´s are in nursing homes needing help with using the bathroom... Confused

     

    But of course....I think the object is to be functional, as well as have the will to function.  I don´t think many want to be in nursing homes at any age, at least not without the prospect of getting out in a reasonable amount of time.  Actually, will has more to do with it. 

     

    Some are able to contribute with very limited resources.....Stephen Hawkins comes to mind.

    3865.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 12:53 am

    If this story wasn´t so sad.......it would make you chuckle Sad

     

    Transvestite Pact

     

    Funeral dress: best friend keeps promise to Private Kevin Elliott

    It was a promise neither man would have wanted to keep. Yesterday the funeral of a Black Watch soldier killed in Afghanistan took a bizarre turn when his best friend arrived in a bright green dress and pink leg warmers to honour a pact that the two of them had made.

    Private Kevin Elliott and his friend, Barry Delaney, had agreed that whoever survived the other should wear a dress to the dead man’s funeral. Mr Delaney duly fulfilled the pledge as a tribute to Private Elliott, who was killed aged 24 while on foot patrol in the southern province of Helmand on August 31.

    Mr Delaney wept on his knees at the graveside in Dundee as shots were fired during the military funeral. His dress plans are believed to have been known about in advance by other mourners

     

    3866.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 01:06 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    If this story wasn´t so sad.......it would make you chuckle Sad

     

    Transvestite Pact

     

    Funeral dress: best friend keeps promise to Private Kevin Elliott

    It was a promise neither man would have wanted to keep. Yesterday the funeral of a Black Watch soldier killed in Afghanistan took a bizarre turn when his best friend arrived in a bright green dress and pink leg warmers to honour a pact that the two of them had made.

    Private Kevin Elliott and his friend, Barry Delaney, had agreed that whoever survived the other should wear a dress to the dead man’s funeral. Mr Delaney duly fulfilled the pledge as a tribute to Private Elliott, who was killed aged 24 while on foot patrol in the southern province of Helmand on August 31.

    Mr Delaney wept on his knees at the graveside in Dundee as shots were fired during the military funeral. His dress plans are believed to have been known about in advance by other mourners

     

    A sad ´individual´ story..

    I hope the people who sent those soldiers into Afghanistan feel the guilt at least a little bit as well!!

     

    3867.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 11:14 am

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6837670.ece

     

    This story sort of blows the concept of Turkish men with short legs out of the window!  He is now the tallest man in the world. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3868.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 01:06 pm

    If this does not deter anyone from having face lifts, nothing will Puking

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1213845/Bloated-Bride-Wildenstein-looks-frightening-ever.html

    3869.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 02:40 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    If this does not deter anyone from having face lifts, nothing will Puking

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1213845/Bloated-Bride-Wildenstein-looks-frightening-ever.html

     

     Aaah but she´s got no wrinkles <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> ...... Maybe she wants to be the next Catwoman Ninja (or a stand in at least, while she´s cleaning my house!!)



    Edited (9/17/2009) by lessluv

    3870.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 02:57 pm

     

    Quoting lessluv

     

     

     Aaah but she´s got no wrinkles <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> ...... Maybe she wants to be the next Catwoman Ninja (or a stand in at least, while she´s cleaning my house!!)

     

    She would scare your house clean Scared

    3871.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 02:59 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

    She would scare your house clean Scared

     

     who Catwoman.... that´s not very nice ha ha I´m sure she has very kind methods of cleaning Big smile

    3872.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 04:19 pm

    Hannibal Lecter is checking out LL........Scared

    3873.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 04:21 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    Hannibal Lecter is checking out LL........Scared

     

     Hopefully he isn´t chilling a nice bottle of Chianti or preparing fava beans!!

    3874.       sonunda
    5004 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 05:07 pm

    Rather tall Turkish man looking for love.

     

    http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149738421

    3875.       birdy
    245 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 05:19 pm

     

    Quoting sonunda

    Rather tall Turkish man looking for love.

     

    http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149738421

     What I spotted is

     Turkish Mr Kosen, who also has the largest hands (27.5cm) and feet (36.5cm) on the globe,

    British press is not very reliable,they even have problems with centimetresBig smile

    3876.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 06:16 pm

     

    Quoting birdy

     

     What I spotted is

     Turkish Mr Kosen, who also has the largest hands (27.5cm) and feet (36.5cm) on the globe,

    British press is not very reliable,they even have problems with centimetresBig smile

     

    ...we do have problems with cms - I agree (and Trudy is always telling me) but what is wrong with those measurements - I would make that hands measuring around (up) 11inches and feet just over 14 inches - which sounds right on a man that tall - did I miss something Unsure

    3877.       sonunda
    5004 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 06:23 pm

    Is it true what they say about men with big feet?

    3878.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 06:32 pm

     

    Quoting sonunda

    Is it true what they say about men with big feet?

     

    You mean that they need big shoes??  - Yeh, I think so.

    3879.       _AE_
    677 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 06:45 pm

     

    Quoting sonunda

    Is it true what they say about men with big feet?

     

     Hahaha when I glanced at this I read "alameda" instead of "sonunda" and was really shocked! lollollol

    3880.       _AE_
    677 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 07:05 pm

    User "spam" - very upfront 

    3881.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 10:27 pm

    Troop of women modelling Agent Provocateur´s latest collection cause a storm on London´s busiest shopping street

     

     Agent Provocateur models pose in the brand´s best-selling push up bras


    http://www.thelondonpaper...lad-models-stop-traffic-on-oxford-street

     

    3882.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Sep 2009 Thu 11:39 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Troop of women modelling Agent Provocateur´s latest collection cause a storm on London´s busiest shopping street

     

     

    do any other type of news ever catch your eyes?

    3883.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:00 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    do any other type of news ever catch your eyes?

     

    I think many...why are you asking?

    3884.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:08 am

     Gay Sunday at ZSL 

    ZSL London Zoo is preparing to host its fifth Gay Sunday in partnership with Gay Times, Diva magazine and the Pink Paper.

    Cocktails, a barbecue, stilt walkers, an orchestra and a Pink Picnic Lawn are amongst the festivities at the gay-orientated event on 20 September.

    ...

     

    http://www.eventmagazine.co.uk/...vites-guests-Gay-Sunday/

     

       it says : To get them in the mood for Gay Sunday at ZSL London Zoo this weekend, the red titi monkeys and golden lion headed tamarins enjoyed their lunch from a specially designed rainbow flag feeder..

    3885.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:30 am

    Everyone is back....... TC is how it should be...Super cool

    3886.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:36 am

     

    Quoting lessluv

    Everyone is back....... TC is how it should be...Super cool

     

    Which is a scary place!!! We need more mods!!!

    3887.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:39 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Which is a scary place!!! We need more mods!!!

     

     I think we have discriminatory practices going on in mod hiring.  I do not see a fair representation of bed amerikans and I demand that this be rectified post haste! 

    3888.       lessluv
    1052 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:46 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

     I think we have discriminatory practices going on in mod hiring.  I do not see a fair representation of bed amerikans and I demand that this be rectified post haste! 

     

     OR many based in UK...... OK OK choice is limited <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> LIR doesn´t count!!



    Edited (9/18/2009) by lessluv [mmmmmm]

    3889.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 01:04 am

    Ok, do send me your applications!! So that I have a few to choose from!!

    3890.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:33 pm

    Brixton to launch its own currency

    ....

     

    Short on cash? Then why not make your own. There´s no law against it, so long as you don´t try to pass it off as sterling.

    And you can use whatever you please to make your money, whether cigarettes, rabbit skins or paper notes.

    That´s what´s happening in Brixton, a south London neighbourhood where shoppers, from Thursday, will be able to hand over 10 Brixton Pounds (B£s) in return for their groceries

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8245276.stm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/f..-its-own-currency.html

     

    Ha ha..I will print my own currency : ´Thehandsom pounds´ lol 

    3891.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 12:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    ´Thehandsom pounds´

     

     What does thehandsom pound?? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3892.       _AE_
    677 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 02:20 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     What does thehandsom pound?? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Or...what DOESN´T thehandsom pound! lollollol

    3893.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 02:32 pm

    Holiday Inn Opens the ´Key Card Hotel´

    Holiday Inn recently debuted a new hotel in New York City. Only this one is made entirely of plastic key cards. The 400 square-foot “Key Card Hotel," created from more than 200,000 room key cards, was built to promote the brand´s relaunch of 1,200 hotels throughout the month of September. 

    ..

     

     

    http://www.brandweek.com....n-incentive/e3i59191706a17f2192460e4e91576ff9f3

     

    God knows why!!!

    3894.       _AE_
    677 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 05:33 pm

    LIR checking out Hannibal_lecter

    3895.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 05:48 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

    LIR checking out Hannibal_lecter

     

    Haha!  I noticed it said I was doing that - not true though! lol

    3896.       _AE_
    677 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 06:13 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Haha!  I noticed it said I was doing that - not true though! lol

     

     Yeah yeah... next you will be telling me you were knitting

    3897.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 06:17 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Yeah yeah... next you will be telling me you were knitting

     

    Shy

    3898.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 06:48 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

    LIR checking out Hannibal_lecter

     

    hihihi.. lol... Maybe she likes the aggressive type..

    3899.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 06:55 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    hihihi.. lol... Maybe she likes the aggressive type..

     

    On a second thought -- I´m sure she was checcking him out for administrative purposes!!

    3900.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 07:04 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    hihihi.. lol... Maybe she likes the aggressive type..

     

    Look....if you want the truth...he´s a doctor who WAS going to specialise in plastic surgery and 3 years ago he promised me a free facelift once he had qualified!  Now I find out he is switching to orthopaedics!  Rant

    3901.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 07:07 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Look....if you want the truth...he´s a doctor who WAS going to specialise in plastic surgery and 3 years ago he promised me a free facelift once he had qualified!  Now I find out he is switching to orthopaedics!  Rant

     

    Canim, I am not sure if I´d go under the knife of a person with the nickname Hannibal! I think this has turned out all for your good...

    3902.       _AE_
    677 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 08:29 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Canim, I am not sure if I´d go under the knife of a person with the nickname Hannibal! I think this has turned out all for your good...

     

     Hahahahaha

     

    DR LECTER WILL SEE YOU NOWWWWW........

     

    3903.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 08:35 pm

    Boy, 12, turns up for school as a girl after sex swap during the summer holidays

    ..

    A 12-year-old boy is preparing to have a sex change operation after returning to school following the summer break as a girl, it was claimed today.

    The boy, who has now had his name changed to a girl´s by deed poll, apparently arrived at school in a dress and pigtails. 

    Stunned teachers called an emergency assembly to explain the sex change to confused pupils who have been told they must now treat the child as a girl.

    ...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214314/Boy-12-sex-swap-summer-holidays.html

    3904.       _AE_
    677 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 09:16 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Boy, 12, turns up for school as a girl after sex swap during the summer holidays

    ..

    A 12-year-old boy is preparing to have a sex change operation after returning to school following the summer break as a girl, it was claimed today.

    The boy, who has now had his name changed to a girl´s by deed poll, apparently arrived at school in a dress and pigtails. 

    Stunned teachers called an emergency assembly to explain the sex change to confused pupils who have been told they must now treat the child as a girl.

    ...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214314/Boy-12-sex-swap-summer-holidays.html

     

    It is disgusting that so called "well meaning" parents have talked to the press about this.  I feel so sorry for the girl involved.  Clearly, there must have been a cross-gender/hormonal problem to start with, otherwise I am sure doctors would not have agreed to the operation.  The parents of the girl should have moved house/changed schools but as it is, the girl is likely to have emotional trauma for the rest of her life because of this.  Actually I think its a pretty sick thing to post just so you can all have a giggle... No way

    3905.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 10:06 pm

    It is just a news and caught my eye..

    People should not jump into the conclusion that it is considered as a laughing matter..

    3906.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 Sep 2009 Fri 10:13 pm

    Hannibal Lecter.......just staring at the main page. 

    3907.       libralady
    5152 posts
     19 Sep 2009 Sat 08:32 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Look....if you want the truth...he´s a doctor who WAS going to specialise in plastic surgery and 3 years ago he promised me a free facelift once he had qualified!  Now I find out he is switching to orthopaedics!  Rant

     

     Come in handy for the hip replacements <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3908.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     20 Sep 2009 Sun 06:50 am

    Cab driver offers kidney to woman

     

    PHOENIXRita Van Loenen had no idea that a trip in Thomas Chappell’s taxi cab could end up being the ride that saves her life.



    I wonder If a woman would ever do thatUnsure

    3909.       baklava
    16 posts
     20 Sep 2009 Sun 09:40 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAoQgjoXtEo&feature=fvw

     

    3910.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     21 Sep 2009 Mon 08:26 pm


     

     

    just another reason to quit smoking!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3911.       foka
    597 posts
     21 Sep 2009 Mon 08:35 pm

    National Mourning .....

    http://callcenterinfo.tmcnet.com/news/2009/09/20/4379752.htm

    3912.       _AE_
    677 posts
     21 Sep 2009 Mon 10:46 pm

    User "Wheatgrain"

    3913.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     21 Sep 2009 Mon 11:38 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

    User "Wheatgrain"

     

     This is how we got "jenniecakes". 

    3914.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Sep 2009 Tue 12:16 am

    Giant panda has twins 

    Giant panda Lou Sheng stays with her twin cubs at the Shaanxi Rare Wildlife Breeding and Research Center in Zhouzhi County, northwest China

    Gallery Image

     

    Gallery Image

     

    http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2009/09/18/10980086.html

     

    Well, after all those humpings, this is not a bad result

     

     

    3915.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     22 Sep 2009 Tue 07:14 am

    Laser pointer accused faces court

    An overseas student has appeared in court accused of shining a laser pointer at a Qantas aircraft as it neared Adelaide.

    Irfan Bozan, 26, of Salisbury East in Adelaide´s northern suburbs is charged with prejudicing the operation of an aircraft.

    The offence carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.

    He also is charged with acts to endanger life.

    Bozan and another man were arrested at Victor Harbor, south of Adelaide, on Sunday night.

    It is alleged they pointed a laser at the aircraft and at passing cars.

    Bozan´s lawyer said his client thought the laser was a toy and did not think he had done any harm.

    Bozan did not apply for bail and his lawyer said he required an interpreter.

    He said Bozan was a Turkish student in Australia on a student visa.

    Bozan was remanded in custody until next month.

    A 28-year-old man from Parafield Gardens is charged with the same offences and will appear in court in September.

     

     

     

     

     

    anything surprising here?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



    Edited (9/22/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

    3916.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Sep 2009 Tue 11:53 am

    "I cheated". Honk if I deserve a second chance!

    An Ohio woman who says she was unfaithful has chosen a very public way of asking her boyfriend not to break up their engagement.

    Advertisement

     

    Nineteen-year-old Jess Duttry stood outside a supermarket parking lot this week with a handwritten sign that said "I cheated" and "Honk if I deserve a second chance."

     

    On the back, Duttry had scrawled, "I honestly love him."

    Jess Duttry, 19, holds a sign saying "I cheated. Honk if I deserve a second chance"

    If you dont,   you conk?

    3917.       _AE_
    677 posts
     22 Sep 2009 Tue 02:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    "I cheated". Honk if I deserve a second chance!

    An Ohio woman who says she was unfaithful has chosen a very public way of asking her boyfriend not to break up their engagement.

    Advertisement

     

    Nineteen-year-old Jess Duttry stood outside a supermarket parking lot this week with a handwritten sign that said "I cheated" and "Honk if I deserve a second chance."

     

    On the back, Duttry had scrawled, "I honestly love him."

    Jess Duttry, 19, holds a sign saying "I cheated. Honk if I deserve a second chance"

    If you dont,   you conk?

     

     I guess it would work the first time... not sure about the second, third, forth, fifth..... lol

    3918.       libralady
    5152 posts
     22 Sep 2009 Tue 03:14 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    "I cheated". Honk if I deserve a second chance!

    An Ohio woman who says she was unfaithful has chosen a very public way of asking her boyfriend not to break up their engagement.

    Advertisement

     

    Nineteen-year-old Jess Duttry stood outside a supermarket parking lot this week with a handwritten sign that said "I cheated" and "Honk if I deserve a second chance."

     

    On the back, Duttry had scrawled, "I honestly love him."

    Jess Duttry, 19, holds a sign saying "I cheated. Honk if I deserve a second chance"

    If you dont,   you conk?

     

    How many times do you think people honked?? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    3919.       _AE_
    677 posts
     23 Sep 2009 Wed 03:30 pm

     Only in American....

     

    Top 3 Lawsuits:-

     

    THIRD PLACE
    Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she  slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the floor: Ms.Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an  argument.
    What ever happened to  people being responsible for their own actions?

    SECOND PLACE
    Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor, knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000.....oh, yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure. 

     Ok. Here we go!!!!!

    FIRST PLACE

    This year´s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was:  Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City , Oklahoma , who purchased  new 32-foot Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, from  an OU football game,  having driven on to the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver´s seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly,
    the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner´s manual that she couldn´t actually  leave the driver´s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down?  $1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their  manuals as a result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor home.

    3920.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     23 Sep 2009 Wed 08:31 pm

    AE - this is hilarious. How come there still are broke people in the US if it´s so easy to get money? From rags to riches now has a totally new meaning lol (and Grazinsky does sound Polish, doesn´t it?)

     

    From now on I will not laugh at user´s manuals saying that wearing a superhero costume does NOT give you super powers or that after heating something in a microwave, it gets hot...

    3921.       Melek74
    1506 posts
     23 Sep 2009 Wed 10:07 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    Laser pointer accused faces court

    Man in court accused of shining laser at aircraft - file photo



    An overseas student has appeared in court accused of shining a laser pointer at a Qantas aircraft as it neared Adelaide.

    Irfan Bozan, 26, of Salisbury East in Adelaide´s northern suburbs is charged with prejudicing the operation of an aircraft.

    The offence carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.

    He also is charged with acts to endanger life.

    Bozan and another man were arrested at Victor Harbor, south of Adelaide, on Sunday night.

    It is alleged they pointed a laser at the aircraft and at passing cars.

    Bozan´s lawyer said his client thought the laser was a toy and did not think he had done any harm.

    Bozan did not apply for bail and his lawyer said he required an interpreter.

    He said Bozan was a Turkish student in Australia on a student visa.

    Bozan was remanded in custody until next month.

    A 28-year-old man from Parafield Gardens is charged with the same offences and will appear in court in September.

     

     

     

     

     

    anything surprising here?<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Are we supposed to be surprised at a Turkish student acting like a moron? Is that what you mean? Unsure

    3922.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     23 Sep 2009 Wed 10:11 pm

     

    Quoting Melek74

     

     

     Are we supposed to be surprised at a Turkish student acting like a moron? Is that what you mean? Unsure

     

    bugger off melek.

    3923.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Sep 2009 Wed 11:13 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    bugger off melek.

     

     Tell us how you really feel <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3924.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     23 Sep 2009 Wed 11:25 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Tell us how you really feel <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    pm me and I will tell Razz

    3925.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 01:02 pm

    Condom positive or condom negative?

     

    Pope said no! And you?


    http://www.condompositive.cz/

    3926.       libralady
    5152 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 02:31 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Condom positive or condom negative?

     

    Pope said no! And you?


    http://www.condompositive.cz/

     

     Apparently  condoms have a positive effect on Global Warming due to the limiting effect they have on population growth.  It is 5 times cheaper as a means of preventing global warming than other green technologies. 

     

    The UN estimate that some 40% of all pregnancies worldwide are unintended.  If the basic family planning needs were met (come on  Popey!!!) then 34 gigatons of carbon dioxide would be saved.  Equivalent to nearly 6 times the annual emissions of the US and almost 60 times the UK´s annual total.

     

    The UN suggests that meeting basic family planning needs would reduce unintended births by 72% (no method is 100% fail safe!) which would then reduce the projected population in 2050 by half a billion.(2050 is when we are supposed have stabilised the  earths mean temperature rise at 2 dec C if the world meets its carbon reduction aims)  

     

    So Popey  if you want to contribute to saving the planet by reducing carbon emission then vote for the condom.

     

    (Synopsis of an article written by London School of Economics for the journal Environmentalist)



    Edited (9/24/2009) by libralady [Fast fingers do it again!]

    3927.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 04:43 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Apparently  condoms have a positive effect on Global Warming due to the limiting effect they have on population growth.  It is 5 times cheaper as a means of preventing global warming than other green technologies. 

     

    The UN estimate that some 40% of all pregnancies worldwide are unintended.  If the basic family planning needs were met (come on  Popey!!!) then 34 gigatons of carbon dioxide would be saved.  Equivalent to nearly 6 times the annual emissions of the US and almost 60 times the UK´s annual total.

     

    The UN suggests that meeting basic family planning needs would reduce unintended births by 72% (no method is 100% fail safe!) which would then reduce the projected population in 2050 by half a billion.(2050 is when we are supposed have stabilised the  earths mean temperature rise at 2 dec C if the world meets its carbon reduction aims)  

     

    So Popey  if you want to contribute to saving the planet by reducing carbon emission then vote for the condom.

     

    (Synopsis of an article written by London School of Economics for the journal Environmentalist)

     

     hummmmm....less people.....less global warming.  It´s almost too simple. 

    (Tami will be writting an article soon about how Catholisism killed the planet!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)  Tami, let me give you a few ideas for your title:  Pope assasinates mother nature!  Evil Christians trying to bring about armegedon by killing trees!  If one more Catholic baby is born, nobody will be able to breath!)



    Edited (9/24/2009) by Elisabeth

    3928.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 04:50 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     hummmmm....less people.....less global warming.  It´s almost too simple. 

    (Tami will be writting an article soon about how Catholisism killed the planet!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)  Tami, let me give you a few ideas for your title:  Pope assasinates mother nature!  Evil Christians trying to bring about armegedon by killing trees!  If one more Catholic baby is born, nobody will be able to breath!)

     

    no need for such a complicated analysis. homosexuality alone will kill catholicism<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast). end of the story!

     

     

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_b8cVMt5KsBc/RmhIooinbKI/AAAAAAAAAO4/ILbXtPYIAQo/s320/zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzembracing%2Bthe%2BPope.JPG

    3929.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 05:12 pm

    Anti-Trump group targets statues


    The group said Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Stirling were targeted

    Campaigners against Donald Trump´s £1bn golf resort plans in Aberdeenshire have dressed up statues around Scotland as the American tycoon.

    The Menie Liberation Front group said the masks and golf clubs had been added to about 20 statues in Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Stirling.

    The Trump Organisation condemned the "stunt".

    ..

    Statue in Aberdeen with Donald Trump mask

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8272305.stm

    Moral of the story is :
    Scotts dont like golf 

     



    Edited (9/24/2009) by thehandsom

    3930.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 05:18 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    no need for such a complicated analysis. homosexuality alone will kill catholicism<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast). end of the story!

     

     

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_b8cVMt5KsBc/RmhIooinbKI/AAAAAAAAAO4/ILbXtPYIAQo/s320/zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzembracing%2Bthe%2BPope.JPG

     

    This is evil...even for you!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    3931.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 05:29 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    This is evil...even for you!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     

    that`s why I`m not a catholic. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3932.       libralady
    5152 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 08:16 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Anti-Trump group targets statues


    The group said Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Stirling were targeted

    Campaigners against Donald Trump´s £1bn golf resort plans in Aberdeenshire have dressed up statues around Scotland as the American tycoon.

    The Menie Liberation Front group said the masks and golf clubs had been added to about 20 statues in Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Stirling.

    The Trump Organisation condemned the "stunt".

    ..

    Statue in Aberdeen with Donald Trump mask

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8272305.stm

    Moral of the story is :
    Scotts dont like golf 

     

     

     But this has been going on some time - why should he be able to destroy swathes of beautiful countryside to pad out his already bulging bank balance just because he has tons of cash??  Good on them I say!

     

     http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1570958/Donald-Trumps-1bn-golf-course-rejected.html

    3933.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     24 Sep 2009 Thu 08:29 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     But this has been going on some time - why should he be able to destroy swathes of beautiful countryside to pad out his already bulging bank balance just because he has tons of cash??  Good on them I say!

     

     http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1570958/Donald-Trumps-1bn-golf-course-rejected.html

     

     But how about the many jobs, visitors he will bring amongst destroying the countryside.....is it good for your economy...hmmm sounds like the local government is for it.  But I do agree it is sickening when I see one Walmart/Kroger close and only to open a bigger one down the street.  Then you have a vacant building just taking up space.  I hate real estate...but on the other hand it does create jobs...golf courses can be attractive...but put a big sky scraper up with apartments..is even worse.

    3934.       libralady
    5152 posts
     25 Sep 2009 Fri 02:52 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     But how about the many jobs, visitors he will bring amongst destroying the countryside.....is it good for your economy...hmmm sounds like the local government is for it.  But I do agree it is sickening when I see one Walmart/Kroger close and only to open a bigger one down the street.  Then you have a vacant building just taking up space.  I hate real estate...but on the other hand it does create jobs...golf courses can be attractive...but put a big sky scraper up with apartments..is even worse.

     

     I agree on the economic view point about jobs, but I don´t think it would create that many.  the whole sustainability argument has to be considered but I think the damage to the environment far out weighs any benefits in terms of social and economic benefits.

    It´s Bydands neck  of the woods so wonder what his opinion of it is.........  Big smile

    3935.       _AE_
    677 posts
     26 Sep 2009 Sat 04:50 pm

     


    Pre-poll threats to German minorities


    About one in 10 German voters has an immigrant background, reports the BBC´s Oana Lungescu. Their voice is becoming ever more important, with dozens of politicians of foreign descent running as candidates in Sunday´s general election.


    The new leader of the Green Party, Cem Oezdemir, is not your typical German politician. He was once voted the best-dressed man in German politics. But there is something else that makes Mr Oezdemir distinctive. His parents came from Turkey in the 1960s, part of the wave of Gastarbeiter who helped rebuild Germany after World War II.


    Thirty years ago, when young Cem Oezdemir told a teacher he wanted to continue his studies rather than become a factory-worker like his dad, his school-mates burst out laughing. He has come a long way, but has Germany?


    But of the 15 million immigrants here, only a third have the right to vote - including half a million people of Turkish descent. The Berlin district of Kreuzberg has been dubbed Little Istanbul.


    At the weekly Turkish market, most people speak Turkish, as well as German, and some of the stall-holders wear head-scarves. When I asked a group of young men selling vegetable if they were planning to vote on Sunday, they shook their heads. "I´d like to, but I´m not allowed," said one. "I´m a Turkish citizen."


    Dual citizenship is restricted under German law, and many Turks who have made a home in this country are effectively disenfranchised. "We have to stand and watch as others decide for us," complained one vegetable seller.


     http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8271249.stm




    Edited (9/26/2009) by _AE_
    Edited (9/26/2009) by _AE_

    3936.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Sep 2009 Sat 11:49 pm

    I didn´t know Germany puts restrictions on dual citizenship. I´m pretty sure (or i was before I read your post) that some of my friends have a dual citizenship (Polish and German)

     

    /off to do some googling/

     

    edit:

    I googled that as far as Polish - German citizenship is concerned, from 1st May 2007 Germany allows having a dual citizenship with the restriction that if you have a dual citizenship, one of which is German, you are treated like a German citizen in Germany. That basically means you cannot talk yourself out different duties and responsibilities hiding behind your other passport. There also was a comment that Germany recognises dual citizenship on the basis of reciprocity.



    Edited (9/26/2009) by Daydreamer [found additional info]

    3937.       alameda
    3499 posts
     26 Sep 2009 Sat 11:54 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I didn´t know Germany puts restrictions on dual citizenship. I´m pretty sure (or i was before I read your post) that some of my friends have a dual citizenship (Polish and German)

     

    /off to do some googling/

     

    Please post your search results.  I have noticed citizenship status, possibilities change over the years.  Now you can´t, now you can.....I wonder if it´s reversed back to now you can´t again???

     

    I also am curious if people would then be required to choose which one of the dual citizenships they want to keep.

    3938.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Sep 2009 Sat 11:58 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Please post your search results.  I have noticed citizenship status, possibilities change over the years.  Now you can´t, now you can.....I wonder if it´s reversed back to now you can´t again???

     

    I also am curious if people would then be required to choose which one of the dual citizenships they want to keep.

     

    done in my previous post (I didn´t quote the source as it was in Polish)

    3939.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Sep 2009 Sun 07:15 pm

    Namaz At the Capitol!!

    Prayers

    Reporting from Washington -Thousands of Muslims, prostrating themselves in prayer, gathered just feet from the Capitol on Friday for "A Day of Islamic Unity," an event intended to showcase what organizers called the "peace, beauty and solidarity" of Islam.
    .....
    The turnout fell far short of the 50,000 predicted..

    http://www.latimes.com/ne...prayer26-2009sep26,0,930355.story?track=rss

    -------

     

    The turnout fell far short of the 50,000?

    Next time insallah when they pray in front of White House 

     

    3940.       birdy
    245 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 02:00 am

    coz birdy is bored TLC is birdimized tonight...

    3941.       _AE_
    677 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 11:36 am

     

    Quoting birdy

    coz birdy is bored TLC is birdimized tonight...

     

     Ouh!  That sounds like something bad

    3942.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 12:34 pm

    Roman Polanski  was detained 

     

    Mr Polanski, 76, was detained in Zurich on Saturday as he travelled from France to collect a lifetime achievement award at the Zurich Film Festival.

    He is being held under a 2005 international alert issued by the US.

    Mr Polanski has been to Switzerland before, but this time US authorities apparently knew of his trip in advance.

    That gave them time to prepare the groundwork for his arrest and send a provisional arrest warrant to Swiss authorities, judicial officials said.

    A Swiss spokesman said the US would now have to make a formal extradition request.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8277886.stm

     

    The strange thing is France is defending him at highest level!!!!I wonder if he will be extradited..

    3943.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:07 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Roman Polanski  was detained 

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8277886.stm

     

    The strange thing is France is defending him at highest level!!!!I wonder if he will be extradited..

     

     

    You know what gets my goats about it? Were he a regular John Dąbrowski, he´d have been imprisoned 31 years ago. Since he´s Mr Important Director he spends these 30 years going to film ceremonies, making movies and living his life to the full. For f****´s sake! He had sex with a 13 year old girl. He should be punished for that. Watching Polish tv news and debates (sic! there are numerous debates about whether Switzerland should have arrested him) one may get the impression that it´s an innocent man that the Evil States of America decided to persecute. They say that the girl, well...now a woman...has forgiven him and doesn´t want to press charges, they say that it happened 31 years ago so it should be forgotten, that Polanski had a tough life (spent the WWII in the ghetto and his wife, Sharon Tate got murdered by the Manson´s gang) or that he´s not a regular Dąbrowski but an artist and they have a different sensitivity. Finally, that the girl wasn´t raped because she consented to it.

     

    I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.

     

    My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)

    3944.       vineyards
    1954 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:23 pm

    I don´t know Daydreamer. I am not sure about the way most countries are run today. With leaders like Berlusconi, Sarkozy or Mitterand in power such news do not sound abnormal at all.

     

    A while ago a similar incident happened in Turkey that linked a well-known Islamist columnist with the molesting of a young girl. There was a huge support behind the guy. Luckily, the guy is now in jail now.

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.

     

    My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)

     

     

    3945.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:42 pm

     

    Quoting vineyards

     

     

    A while ago a similar incident happened in Turkey that linked a well-known Islamist columnist with the molesting of a young girl. There was a huge support behind the guy. Luckily, the guy is now in jail now.

     

     

    That speaks really well about the Turkish Court. I hope it´ll be the same with Polanski.

    It is horrible that although all people are equal, some still are more equal than the others

     

    3946.       _AE_
    677 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:43 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    That speaks really well about the Turkish Court. I hope it´ll be the same with Polanski.

    It is horrible that although all people are equal, some still are more equal than the others

     

     

     I have just two words to say: MICHAEL JACKSON...

    3947.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:48 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     I have just two words to say: MICHAEL JACKSON...

     

    Well, it is a tad different, Michael Jackson never admitted that he´d molested these kids. With Polanski the matter is not whether he´s guilty or not but whether he should be sentenced for that

    3948.       _AE_
    677 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 10:50 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Well, it is a tad different, Michael Jackson never admitted that he´d molested these kids. With Polanski the matter is not whether he´s guilty or not but whether he should be sentenced for that

     

     I agree with you about Polanski, but am also slightly bemused by the way that people very quickly forgot that there was overwhelming evidence of child abuse linked to Jackson, who had paid off the kid´s parents with millions, has attorneys CONVINCED of his guilt ....but hey?...he was a legend right?  Grrrrrrrrrr!



    Edited (9/28/2009) by _AE_

    3949.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     28 Sep 2009 Mon 11:27 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     I agree with you about Polanski, but am also slightly bemused by the way that people very quickly forgot that there was overwhelming evidence of child abuse linked to Jackson, who had paid off the kid´s parents with millions, has attorneys CONVINCED of his guilt ....but hey?...he was a legend right?  Grrrrrrrrrr!

     

    That´s true...oh well, Orwell´s truth still holds Ninja

    3950.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Sep 2009 Wed 02:25 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    You know what gets my goats about it? Were he a regular John Dąbrowski, he´d have been imprisoned 31 years ago. Since he´s Mr Important Director he spends these 30 years going to film ceremonies, making movies and living his life to the full. For f****´s sake! He had sex with a 13 year old girl. He should be punished for that. Watching Polish tv news and debates (sic! there are numerous debates about whether Switzerland should have arrested him) one may get the impression that it´s an innocent man that the Evil States of America decided to persecute. They say that the girl, well...now a woman...has forgiven him and doesn´t want to press charges, they say that it happened 31 years ago so it should be forgotten, that Polanski had a tough life (spent the WWII in the ghetto and his wife, Sharon Tate got murdered by the Manson´s gang) or that he´s not a regular Dąbrowski but an artist and they have a different sensitivity. Finally, that the girl wasn´t raped because she consented to it.

     

    I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.

     

    My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they g <[script] src="../../js/tiny_mce/themes/advanced/langs/en.js" type="text/javascript"> ave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)

     

    I must say that I completely agree with you..

    A rapist is a rapist and he is worse I guess because of the girl´s age..

    If you can bare, read the girl´s testimony:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion..t-polanski-did-1794717.html

     

    3951.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     30 Sep 2009 Wed 05:07 pm

    He makes me sick....he pleady guilty and committed the crime he should do the time.  We will just have to see once again if we have two forms of judicial branches...one for the wealthy and one for the everday people.

    3952.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:00 am

    Sorry, TheH but I couldn´t resist:

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    If you can bare, read the girl´s testimony:

     

     

     

    Yes, I can bare but I don´t think many people would like to see it lol

    3953.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:02 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

    He makes me sick....he pleady guilty and committed the crime he should do the time.  We will just have to see once again if we have two forms of judicial branches...one for the wealthy and one for the everday people.

     

    I can´t wait to see the trial, that is if Switzerland sends him to the States. His lawyers are trying to delay things, probably wanting to make a deal with the prosecution in the US

    3954.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 12:43 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Sorry, TheH but I couldn´t resist:

     

    Yes, I can bare but I don´t think many people would like to see it lol

     

    Ohhhhhhh..Gosh.. Roll eyes

    DD..

    Will you stop playing with my fragile little heart please? Cell phone

     

    3955.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 01:02 pm

     

    Student throws shoe at IMF chief in Istanbul protest (But misses)

     

     

    Security guards dragged the student away as he chanted "get out of the university, thief IMF."

    Turkey is hosting the IMF and World Bank annual meetings in Istanbul.


     

     

    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/n...f-in-istanbul-protest.html

     

    If Iraqis can do it so can we..

    But when are we going to see any of these shoes hitting the target?

    3956.       MarioninTurkey
    6124 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 04:15 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Student throws shoe at IMF chief in Istanbul protest (But misses)

     

     

    Security guards dragged the student away as he chanted "get out of the university, thief IMF."

    Turkey is hosting the IMF and World Bank annual meetings in Istanbul.


     

     

    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/n...f-in-istanbul-protest.html

     

    If Iraqis can do it so can we..

    But when are we going to see any of these shoes hitting the target?

     Turkish press is now saying he is a journalist ... and the newsflash is that he has just been released from custody

     

    3957.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 04:44 pm

    I like the people who throw pies and cakes much better then the people who throw shoes...

    3958.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 06:15 pm

     

    Student oath is ‘ethnic discrimination,’ says human rights commissioner

    ..

    Thomas Hammarberg, head of the Council of Europe Human Rights Commission, has criticized the phrase “Happy is he who calls himself a Turk,” which is part of the morning oath recited by Turkish primary school students.

     

    ..the commissioner said the famous phrase amounts to “ethnic discrimination.” The Turkish government responded quickly, saying: “The word ‘Turk’ does not represent an ethnic, linguistic or religious origin; it expresses Turkish citizenship.”

     

    Hammarberg said in his report that there are various oaths students are made to chant every day, including another with the line, “I am a Turk and I am proud to be a Turk,” which elevate the ethnic identity over all others. The report said there are 12 to 15 million Kurds in Turkey, alongside 3 million Caucasus pupils, nearly 3 million Roma and around a million Laz, and made the recommendation that Turkey should accept these demographics as “richness.”

     

    .... The government also said the term “minority” is defined by the Treaty of Lausanne.

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/..discrimination8217-2009-10-01

    ===========

     

    This is what we said nearly 2 years ago..

    We should have abolished it!!!

    http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_29075

     



    Edited (10/1/2009) by thehandsom

    3959.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 06:33 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.

     

    My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)

     

    I agree with you...she had no way to consent....not only was she under age, he also drugged the poor thing.  I really feel the girl (now a woman) has been humiliated enough. It´s tragic she has to go through all the publicity again, it´s too bad there isn´t a way to protect her identity.

     

    Just because someone is a great artist, does not make them a saint.  How about Leni Riefenstahl?  Nobody can dispute her artistry....maybe it´s more about the victim?  Are female rape victims not important?

     

    I can´t believe there is any dispute about the criminality of his action.

    3960.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 07:13 pm

    Quote:

    “I am a Turk and I am proud to be a Turk,”

     

     

    So if I´m not a Turk living there..I still have to recite I am a Turk?  Strange..not a good way to embrace multi cultures.

    3961.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 07:27 pm

    Fethiye to host bird watching fest 

     

    A program of activities and trips have been organized in the popular resort town of Fethiye this weekend, providing exciting opportunities for anyone interested in birds

    ..

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=..009-10-01

     

    A bird enthusiast is watching:

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3962.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 08:25 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    So if I´m not a Turk living there..I still have to recite I am a Turk?  Strange..not a good way to embrace multi cultures.

     

    If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

     

    Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

     

    IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

     

    3963.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 08:39 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

     

    Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

     

    IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

     

     

    What are you talking about it?

    We have given  70.000 deads over this subject!!!

    I explained this 100 times.. 

    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE, TURKS, SAY "the word Turk refers to a person living in Turkey".

    When I say ´Ne mutlu Turkum diyene´, does somebody perceive the word TURK as an ethnic identity?

    As a Turk, I am saying "yes". Millions of Kurds are saying "YES".

    Turk is an ethnic identity.. Like English, like German, like Kurd etc..

    Do you see the dilemma of your self?

    Turk is an ethnicity. It is used as an ethnicity almost everywhere, almost in every book.

    Our entire ´genesis´ is based on the theory that we TURKS came from central Asia and we are so proud of it!!

    Are  you coming up and saying that ´Yes Turk is ethnicity but it is not in that context´?

    3964.       _AE_
    677 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 08:46 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

     

     

    Pardon my ignorance but what does "IOW" mean?

    I keep thinking you are talking about the Isle of Wight!!! lol

     

    Hmmmm

    "In our world"?

    "In oily water"?

    "Irrespective of womanisers"?

    "Ignorant old women"?

    "Imps owe wages"?

     



    Edited (10/1/2009) by _AE_

    3965.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 09:04 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

    Pardon my ignorance but what does "IOW" mean?

    I keep thinking you are talking about the Isle of Wight!!! lol

     

    Hmmmm

    "In our world"?

    "In oily water"?

    "Irrespective of womanisers"?

    "Ignorant old women"?

    "Imps owe wages"?

     

     

     In Other Words....although I don´t know anyone accept for Alameda that uses this.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3966.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 09:04 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

     

    Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

     

    IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

     

     Yes, I realize that if you are a citizen..but what if I´m not?  Am I still a Turk?

     

    3967.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 10:32 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     Yes, I realize that if you are a citizen..but what if I´m not?  Am I still a Turk?

     

     

    Language is filled with these discrepancies......tell me....do you,, or others, consider you Caucasian?

     

    ...........so what part of the Caucasus are you from?

    3968.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 10:33 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     In Other Words....although I don´t know anyone accept for Alameda that uses this.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    my..........you live such a sheltered life....

    3969.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Oct 2009 Thu 10:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    What are you talking about it?

    We have given  70.000 deads over this subject!!!

    I explained this 100 times.. 

    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE, TURKS, SAY "the word Turk refers to a person living in Turkey".

    When I say ´Ne mutlu Turkum diyene´, does somebody perceive the word TURK as an ethnic identity?

     

    ............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons.  Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?

     

    There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.

     

    If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...

    same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....

     

    You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?

    3970.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 02:36 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    my..........you live such a sheltered life....

     

    I guess this is the new Cali lingo that hasn´t yet hit our area.Big smile

    3971.       armegon
    1872 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 03:23 am

    Very well said alameda, it seems this poor european guy is not clever enough to interpret this motto, but i think it is intetionally, anyway; It is "Happy is the one who says i am Turk"  not "Happy is the one who is Turk", there is difference, and the ones who are disturbed from this, are absolutely disturbed from Turkish citizenship as well. I read this in a newspaper yesterday, i usually do not read the readers comment but this time i decided to read and i have to say big percentage of comments are rightminded

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    ............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons.  Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?

     

    There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.

     

    If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...

    same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....

     

    You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?

     

     

    3972.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 11:56 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    ............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons.  Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?

     

    There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.

     

    If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...

    same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....

     

    You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?

    I think you are the one falling into trap..

    First of all what is said up there is "racist"!!

    I am not the only one thinking that, even one of the ministers voiced her concerns..Many writers in many newspapers are saying the same thing.

    And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)..

    We have non-Turks in our country and It is a shame to make them say those words..

    It is like Greeks forcing Turkish childeren to say ´ how happy to say I am Greek´. Or Germans forcing Turkish childeren to say ´how happy to say I am German´ ..

    And you have to be really BLIND not to see that..

    I dont think I am the one making a big dealout of it..On the contrary, I would be a really happy person if our racists elements are plained off..

    Nope..we are not going to change the name of the country..

    But I am sure racists mottos (and racist understandings) will have to go..

    You trust me on that!!

    And they will go..

    They are already going anyway..People are talking; people are questioning; people are realizing how racist we have been; people are realising what we were told were lies;they dont believe in -western supported terrorism type of rubbish- any more for example..

     

     

    3973.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 12:09 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    Very well said alameda, it seems this poor european guy is not clever enough to interpret this motto, but i think it is intetionally, anyway; It is "Happy is the one who says i am Turk"  not "Happy is the one who is Turk", there is difference, and the ones who are disturbed from this, are absolutely disturbed from Turkish citizenship as well. I read this in a newspaper yesterday, i usually do not read the readers comment but this time i decided to read and i have to say big percentage of comments are rightminded

     

     

     

     

    Yours is simply frustration lol

    Because almost everything I said a year or before were true and with the time, you see and hear more of very similar things in Turkey. That does not  makes you feel very good I guess..

     

     

     

    3974.       alameda
    3499 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 05:18 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Yours is simply frustration lol

    Because almost everything I said a year or before were true and with the time, you see and hear more of very similar things in Turkey. That does not  makes you feel very good I guess..

     

     

     

    ..........as long as there are nations, there will be declarations and pledges.....


    I wonder....is this something along the lines of your thinking?

     

    "...........The criticism of the Pledge of Allegiance of the United States exists on several grounds. Its use in public schools has been the most controversial, as critics contend that a government-sanctioned endorsement of religion violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Critics feel that that the pledge is incompatible with democracy and freedom, and suggest that pledges of allegiance are features of totalitarian states like Nazi Germany."

     

    "Libertarians, Socialists, and Communists generally oppose on principle pledges led by government employees in public schools, as a conflict in interest by the government and as exploitation of children. By contrast, some also believe that the "liberty" clause binds citizens to uphold libertarian beliefs and thus to oppose conscription, drug regulation and other measures which might be considered authoritarian. They also hold the view that the use of the "indivisible" clause promotes nationalism and violates State sovereignty."

     

    3975.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 05:31 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

    ..........as long as there are nations, there will be declarations and pledges.....


    I wonder....is this something along the lines of your thinking?

     

    "...........The criticism of the Pledge of Allegiance of the United States exists on several grounds. Its use in public schools has been the most controversial, as critics contend that a government-sanctioned endorsement of religion violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Critics feel that that the pledge is incompatible with democracy and freedom, and suggest that pledges of allegiance are features of totalitarian states like Nazi Germany."

     

    "Libertarians, Socialists, and Communists generally oppose on principle pledges led by government employees in public schools, as a conflict in interest by the government and as exploitation of children. By contrast, some also believe that the "liberty" clause binds citizens to uphold libertarian beliefs and thus to oppose conscription, drug regulation and other measures which might be considered authoritarian. They also hold the view that the use of the "indivisible" clause promotes nationalism and violates State sovereignty."

     

     

       It does not force anyone to declare they are a specific nationality, in which they are not.  It emphasizes that we are one nation!  Most people find that it unifies us but not divides us.    I don´t see the comparison at all.

    3976.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 05:39 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I think you are the one falling into trap..

    First of all what is said up there is "racist"!!

    I am not the only one thinking that, even one of the ministers voiced her concerns..Many writers in many newspapers are saying the same thing.

    And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)..

    We have non-Turks in our country and It is a shame to make them say those words..

    It is like Greeks forcing Turkish childeren to say ´ how happy to say I am Greek´. Or Germans forcing Turkish childeren to say ´how happy to say I am German´ ..

    And you have to be really BLIND not to see that..

    I dont think I am the one making a big dealout of it..On the contrary, I would be a really happy person if our racists elements are plained off..

    Nope..we are not going to change the name of the country..

    But I am sure racists mottos (and racist understandings) will have to go..

    You trust me on that!!

    And they will go..

    They are already going anyway..People are talking; people are questioning; people are realizing how racist we have been; people are realising what we were told were lies;they dont believe in -western supported terrorism type of rubbish- any more for example..

     

     

     

    I totally agree with you on this one...If I´m not a Turk but going to school in Turkey, I certainly would not recite this.  It makes absolutely no sense...What the hell!  I don´t see a problem honoring their country..but the terminology does need to change to embrace all people living there.

    3977.       armegon
    1872 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 05:46 pm

    Normal for traitors to be disturbed from what i wrote, we have lots of them throughout the history.

    The ones who are Turkish citizens, are called Turks(Turkish constitution law 66). And the motto represents the cultural and historical union of the one who are living on the lands of Turkey.

     

    And here is your frustration ;

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)... 

     

    Atatürk is racist as well, below is your another frustration <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Xn6bFAwxo

    3978.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     02 Oct 2009 Fri 08:00 pm

    I´m hoping Brazil has the chance to hold the olympics.  It would be nice for South America to hold the summer olympics for the first time.

    3979.       _AE_
    677 posts
     03 Oct 2009 Sat 12:37 pm


     


    Designers of a bra that turns into gas masks and a team who found that named cows produce more milk were among the winners of the 2009 Ig Nobel prizes.


     


    The aim of the awards is to honour achievements that "first make people laugh and then make them think".


    The peace prize went to a Swiss research team who determined whether it is better to be hit over the head with a full or empty bottle of beer.


    The ceremony was organised by the magazine Annals of Improbable Research.


    lollollol



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8285380.stm


    3980.       libralady
    5152 posts
     03 Oct 2009 Sat 03:02 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

    I´m hoping Brazil has the chance to hold the olympics.  It would be nice for South America to hold the summer olympics for the first time.

     

     Great news for Brazil!!

    3981.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 12:12 pm

    User ´need_love33´ alternately reviewing statistics and pming!   Nice ´up-front´ nickname - with reason for using Turkish class being ´meet new friends and maybe more´  -  lol   I give him a week before he´s ´spammed out´

     

    And by the way, if you´re reading this nl33 - THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE!!!

    3982.       _AE_
    677 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 12:23 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    User ´need_love33´ alternately reviewing statistics and pming!   Nice ´up-front´ nickname - with reason for using Turkish class being ´meet new friends and maybe more´  -  lol   I give him a week before he´s ´spammed out´

     

    And by the way, if you´re reading this nl33 - THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE!!!

     

     Is it my imagination or are they serial spammers?  I am convinced they are all the same 5-6 people who just get deleted and keep coming back year after year! lol 

     

    Note to spammers:  I am the one one who marks you as "spam" and contributes to your being deleted! lol

     

    Need love?  I need the day off (I hate working weekends!) - New nick coming up "needdayoff33"



    Edited (10/4/2009) by _AE_

    3983.       mltm
    3690 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:19 pm

    The spammers keep me sending messages to teach me turkish, but they do not even read my profile, it´s written my name is Meltem and Turkish is my native language.

    3984.       _AE_
    677 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 01:37 pm

     

    Quoting mltm

    The spammers keep me sending messages to teach me turkish, but they do not even read my profile, it´s written my name is Meltem and Turkish is my native language.

     

     Awww poor you!  It must have something to do with your pretty little pic!!!

    3985.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 03:41 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    User ´need_love33´ alternately reviewing statistics and pming!   Nice ´up-front´ nickname - with reason for using Turkish class being ´meet new friends and maybe more´  -  lol   I give him a week before he´s ´spammed out´

     

    And by the way, if you´re reading this nl33 - THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE!!!

     

     He already knows!  He is an old hand...... they really must think about changing their profile pics so they are not so easily recognised <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) (but he is it playing safe by having need_love33m as a standby)

    3986.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 04:11 pm

    Rocco seems to be back from Poland! Satisfied nod

    3987.       _AE_
    677 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 04:14 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    Rocco seems to be back from Poland! Satisfied nod

     

     Ouh goody!  Welcome back Rocco!!!

    3988.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:21 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    Rocco seems to be back from Poland! Satisfied nod

     

     Oooooh! What´s he been STUDying there??? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3989.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:23 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Oooooh! What´s he been STUDying there??? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    you should ask this to daydreamer! <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3990.       _AE_
    677 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:25 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Oooooh! What´s he been STUDying there??? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Pole Dancing? lol

    3991.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:26 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Pole Dancing? lol

     

    <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3992.       mltm
    3690 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:34 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Awww poor you!  It must have something to do with your pretty little pic!!!

     

    It might be (where´s the shy smiley). But I think whether with a picture or not, you´ll still receive spams like this. btw I need to update this pic, it has been a century

    3993.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:36 pm

     

    Quoting mltm

     

     

    But I think whether with a picture or not, you´ll still receive spams like this.

     

    I have to agree with you. even I get spam mails. can`t they just look at my pictures? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    3994.       _AE_
    677 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:37 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

    I have to agree with you. even I get spam mails. can`t they just look at my pictures? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Maybe you get the spam BECAUSE OF your pictures! lol

    3995.       _AE_
    677 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:51 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     I have to agree with you. even I get spam mails. can`t they just look at my pictures? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Or.... maybe they can´t read well and think your name is "msn supertits" lollollol

    3996.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 05:58 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Or.... maybe they can´t read well and think your name is "msn supertits" lollollol

    <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     damn, how couldn`t I notice that!

    3997.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 06:26 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     He already knows!  He is an old hand...... they really must think about changing their profile pics so they are not so easily recognised <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) (but he is it playing safe by having need_love33m as a standby)

     

    I did notice he´d been a member for a year as need_love33 - and I also noticed that he has just added another nick - but I thought if I mentioned it I would have to delete him immediately  as multiple nicknames are (as we all know) against Rule 1 of Turkish Class!  Hmmm.....what to do now??   Roll eyes Difficult one because it might mean deleting half of TC on the basis of what goes for one, goes for all.  lol



    Edited (10/4/2009) by lady in red

    3998.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     04 Oct 2009 Sun 10:22 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Pole Dancing? lol

     

    Excuse me? FYI I haven´t received a single spam from that user even despite my cute profile picture! I will get you

    3999.       vineyards
    1954 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 10:52 am

    A cute picture and a disclaimer must be the hallmark of attractive women on the net.

    Check out my picture, you see how irresistable I am but don´t even think about sending me that PM.

    OK. OK. Just joking I know how wrong I am...

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Excuse me? FYI I haven´t received a single spam from that user even despite my cute profile picture! I will get you

     

     



    Edited (10/5/2009) by vineyards

    4000.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 12:00 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    Normal for traitors to be disturbed from what i wrote, we have lots of them throughout the history.

    The ones who are Turkish citizens, are called Turks(Turkish constitution law 66). And the motto represents the cultural and historical union of the one who are living on the lands of Turkey.

     

    And here is your frustration ;

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)... 

     

    Atatürk is racist as well, below is your another frustration <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Xn6bFAwxo

     

    Ha ha

    No worries at all..

    Through out  our history, people like you accused people like me as traitors..

    People like you includes Turkes (late leader of ultra nationalist  party) , Muhsin yazicioglu (another late leader of another nationalist  party), Kenan Evren (late head of the army, leader of the cue d´etat), new head of the army etc etc..

    Basically all fascists of Turkey accused people like me as traitors.

    I would be seriously concerned if a fascist agreed what I say..

     

    4001.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 09:58 pm

    THE YEAR 1909



    This will boggle your mind, I know it did mine!  
    The year is 1909.  
    One hundred years ago.  
    What a difference a century makes!  
    Here are some statistics for the Year 1909 :


    ************ ********* *********


    The average life expectancy was  47 years.


    fuel for this car was sold in drug stores only 



    Only 14 percent of the homes had a bathtub.



    Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.



    There were only 8,000 cars and only 144 miles


    Of paved roads.



    The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.



    The tallest structure in the world was the  Eiffel  Tower!



    The average wage in 1909 was 22 cents per hour.



    The average worker made between $200 and $400 per year ..



    A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year,  
    A dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.


    More than 95 percent of all births took place at HOME .



    Ninety percent of all doctors had NO COLLEGE EDUCATION!


    Instead, they attended so-called medical schools, many of which


    Were condemned in the press AND the government as ´substandard. ´



    Sugar cost four cents a pound.



    Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.



    Coffee was fifteen cents a pound.



    Most women only washed their hair  once a month, and used


    Borax or egg yolks for shampoo.



    Canada passed a law that prohibited poor people from


    Entering into their country for any reason.



    Five leading causes of death were:



    1. Pneumonia and influenza  
    2. Tuberculosis  
    3. Diarrhea  
    4. Heart disease  
    5. Stroke




    The American flag had 45 stars.



    The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was only 30!!!!



    Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea  Hadn´t been invented yet.




    There was no Mother´s Day or Father´s Day.



    Two out of every 10 adults couldn´t read or write and 


    Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school..


                                                                         



    Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at the local corner drugstores. Back then pharmacists said, ´Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind,regulates the stomach and bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health´








    ( Shocking? DUH! )









    Eighteen percent of households had at least  one full-time servant or domestic help.




    There were about 230 reported murders in the ENTIRE !  U.S.A.!  



    Plus one more sad thought; 95 percent of the taxes we



    have now did not exist in 1909

    4002.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 10:06 pm

    Quote:

    Two out of every 10 adults couldn´t read or write and 

     

    Wut?Roll eyes

    4003.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 11:11 pm

    Lis, that was hilarious Although the number of murders was something that needn´t have changed

    30 people in Las Vegas? So how did the casinos break even? lol

    Heroin for complexion and health? Ahmm...no, thanks

    4004.       mltm
    3690 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 11:35 pm

    I had read a bit about heroin, and at first it was destinated to make people quit smoking and alcoholism, so it was a kind of treatment against addiction, but later they found out that in fact it was heroin that would cause the worst addiction.

    4005.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     05 Oct 2009 Mon 11:45 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    Heroin for complexion and health? Ahmm...no, thanks

     

     Might explain the 47 year life expectancy!!

    4006.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Oct 2009 Tue 12:16 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Might explain the 47 year life expectancy!!

     

    Who would be able to stand more years of being always high? Apart from Mick Jagger lol

    4007.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     06 Oct 2009 Tue 12:41 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Who would be able to stand more years of being always high? Apart from Mick Jagger lol

     

    ....the man with the perfect complexion!  lol

    4008.       armegon
    1872 posts
     06 Oct 2009 Tue 05:43 am

    Thats all you can do, labeling people as fascists, racists and nationalists who disagrees with you. If you want to see a racist, just look into a mirror. Why dont you just put Atatürk to that list? I would prefer him rather than Türkeþ, Yazýcýoðlu or Evren who are American toys imo and since i have no sympathy any of themWink.

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Ha ha

    No worries at all..

    Through out  our history, people like you accused people like me as traitors..

    People like you includes Turkes (late leader of ultra nationalist  party) , Muhsin yazicioglu (another late leader of another nationalist  party), Kenan Evren (late head of the army, leader of the cue d´etat), new head of the army etc etc..

    Basically all fascists of Turkey accused people like me as traitors.

    I would be seriously concerned if a fascist agreed what I say..

     

     

     

    4009.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     06 Oct 2009 Tue 08:27 am

    The list of Human Development Ranking with my country at nr. 6. Cloggie-land is not thát bad to live in.... lol

     

    http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/ 

    4010.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Oct 2009 Tue 12:21 pm

    Poland´s at 41st place And Ireland made the 5th Our Brits will be disappointed being on 21st place while the evil Amerikans made it to the 13th. Turkey is 79th way behind Belarus, Cuba and Albania - that´s surprising

    4011.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     07 Oct 2009 Wed 11:44 am

    Amazing Drawing with Sand from Ukraine´s Got Talent

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhf3OvRXKg

    4012.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     07 Oct 2009 Wed 02:49 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Amazing Drawing with Sand from Ukraine´s Got Talent

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhf3OvRXKg

     A-MA-ZING!

     

    4013.       _AE_
    677 posts
     09 Oct 2009 Fri 12:06 pm

    Translator Wars continues in the Translation Forum! lol

    4014.       cedars
    235 posts
     09 Oct 2009 Fri 12:11 pm

    Eiffel tower with turkish colors

     

    http://www.libertasoccidentalis.net/libertasoccidentalis09/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Tour-Eiffel-illumin%C3%A9e-005.jpg

    4015.       alex de souza
    60 posts
     09 Oct 2009 Fri 12:19 pm

    Nobel Peace Prize goes to Barack Obama!

    4016.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Oct 2009 Fri 01:36 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

    Translator Wars continues in the Translation Forum! lol

    they are phenomenons

    4017.       _AE_
    677 posts
     09 Oct 2009 Fri 04:03 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

    Quoting _AE_

    Translator Wars continues in the Translation Forum! lol

    they are phenomenons

     

    I prefer enigmas to phenomenons

     

    4018.       alex de souza
    60 posts
     10 Oct 2009 Sat 08:19 pm

    Muslims in Canada calling for burka ban... Interesting!

     

    A Canadian Muslim group is calling on Ottawa to ban the wearing of the burka in public, saying the argument that the right to wear it is protected by the Charter’s guarantee of freedom of religion is false.

    “The burka has absolutely no place in Canada,” said Farzana Hassan, of the Muslim Canadian Congress. “In Canada we recognize the equality of men and women. We want to recognize gender equality as an absolute. The burka marginalizes women.”

    She said many women who cover their face in public are being forced to by their husbands and family. As a result, she argued, these women are denied opportunities and cannot live freely as other women in this society.

    “The Koran exhorts Muslims toward modesty, which can be expressed in a number of different ways and it doesn’t have to be that you have to cover your face or you have to wear a virtual tent wherever you go. This is not a requirement of Islam or the Koran. We are saying this practice has become a political issue promoted by extremists and to counter this trend we are asking for a ban on the burka.”

     

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2009/10/07/muslim-group-calls-for-burka-ban-in-canada.aspx

     

     

     

    4019.       _AE_
    677 posts
     12 Oct 2009 Mon 04:10 pm

     

    Quoting alex de souza

    Muslims in Canada calling for burka ban... Interesting!

     

    A Canadian Muslim group is calling on Ottawa to ban the wearing of the burka in public, saying the argument that the right to wear it is protected by the Charter’s guarantee of freedom of religion is false.

    “The burka has absolutely no place in Canada,” said Farzana Hassan, of the Muslim Canadian Congress. “In Canada we recognize the equality of men and women. We want to recognize gender equality as an absolute. The burka marginalizes women.”

    She said many women who cover their face in public are being forced to by their husbands and family. As a result, she argued, these women are denied opportunities and cannot live freely as other women in this society.

    “The Koran exhorts Muslims toward modesty, which can be expressed in a number of different ways and it doesn’t have to be that you have to cover your face or you have to wear a virtual tent wherever you go. This is not a requirement of Islam or the Koran. We are saying this practice has become a political issue promoted by extremists and to counter this trend we are asking for a ban on the burka.”

     

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2009/10/07/muslim-group-calls-for-burka-ban-in-canada.aspx

     Wow - this is very interesting and a very positive step ...

     

    4020.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     12 Oct 2009 Mon 10:47 pm

    I think it´s right that burka should be banned, especially the saudi arabia/taliban style ones! However, I don´t think that all women are forced by their husbands to wear it, although their husbands surely enjoy their freedom and their wifes´ imprisonment. It´s not the burka that´s the root of the problem, it´s the overbearing, present everywhere sexism, objectification of women, patriarchal values that we are all brainwashed with from childhood. It is not truly liberating when women are forced to wear something, although I agree that some limits have to be set.

    4021.       Merih
    933 posts
     13 Oct 2009 Tue 04:46 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    I think it´s right that burka should be banned, especially the saudi arabia/taliban style ones! However, I don´t think that all women are forced by their husbands to wear it, although their husbands surely enjoy their freedom and their wifes´ imprisonment. It´s not the burka that´s the root of the problem, it´s the overbearing, present everywhere sexism, objectification of women, patriarchal values that we are all brainwashed with from childhood. It is not truly liberating when women are forced to wear something, although I agree that some limits have to be set.

     

     I totally agree with you....  I used to believe women did not have a place in society unless they take of that headscarf (either forced by families or husbands) and those baggy clothes (specially the black ones, and the veil..) But now living in Dubai, where you can see women from everywhere around the world living in peace, in different positions in companies or government jobs, and making even some friends, I realised that:

     

    1. They are not necessarily forced by somebody, but choose for themselves.

    2. They can be and are as intelligent, humorous and social as us.

    3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.

     

    In my conversations, they told me that they feel fully naked when they don´t wear a hijab (a head scarf), they are bullied in Europe, US, Canada and Australia (mainly), while every other person can enjoy their choice of clothing, wearing bikinis, or not wearing at all.

     

    And I do believe while we support freedom in belief and speech, we have double standards when people believe in something that we don´t.

     

    Is that fair?? To allow someone to wear a tiny bikini and not to allow someone a burquini (which covers the body and the hair)???  And why don´t we strip off the nuns as well, they are fully covered too?????

     

     

    4022.       alameda
    3499 posts
     13 Oct 2009 Tue 06:08 pm

    +++Flowers

     

    I do think when the face is covered, making identity very difficult, it´s going too far.

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

     I totally agree with you....  I used to believe women did not have a place in society unless they take of that headscarf (either forced by families or husbands) and those baggy clothes (specially the black ones, and the veil..) But now living in Dubai, where you can see women from everywhere around the world living in peace, in different positions in companies or government jobs, and making even some friends, I realised that:

     

    1. They are not necessarily forced by somebody, but choose for themselves.

    2. They can be and are as intelligent, humorous and social as us.

    3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.

     

    In my conversations, they told me that they feel fully naked when they don´t wear a hijab (a head scarf), they are bullied in Europe, US, Canada and Australia (mainly), while every other person can enjoy their choice of clothing, wearing bikinis, or not wearing at all.

     

    And I do believe while we support freedom in belief and speech, we have double standards when people believe in something that we don´t.

     

    Is that fair?? To allow someone to wear a tiny bikini and not to allow someone a burquini (which covers the body and the hair)???  And why don´t we strip off the nuns as well, they are fully covered too?????

     

     

     

     



    Edited (10/13/2009) by alameda [add]

    4023.       Merih
    933 posts
     13 Oct 2009 Tue 07:45 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

    +++Flowers

     

    I do think when the face is covered, making identity very difficult, it´s going too far.

     

     

     

     

     I do agree with that too.....

    4024.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     13 Oct 2009 Tue 09:22 pm

    This caught my eye:  Americans are angry! 

     

    http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Angry-Americans.aspx?cp-searchtext=Angry%20Americans&FORM=msnhal

     

     

    4025.       libralady
    5152 posts
     13 Oct 2009 Tue 09:31 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    This caught my eye:  Americans are angry! 

     

    http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Angry-Americans.aspx?cp-searchtext=Angry%20Americans&FORM=msnhal

     

     

     

     My god I am scared Scared What will happen to my farm if it succumbs to the wrath of those bed ameriken neighbuurs Unsure

    4026.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     13 Oct 2009 Tue 10:04 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     My god I am scared Scared What will happen to my farm if it succumbs to the wrath of those bed ameriken neighbuurs Unsure

     

     You will just have to surrender your farm to me!!!  MUAHHHHH!!!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    4027.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 02:28 am

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

     

     

    1. They are not necessarily forced by somebody, but choose for themselves.

    2. They can be and are as intelligent, humorous and social as us.

    3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.

     

    In my conversations, they told me that they feel fully naked when they don´t wear a hijab (a head scarf), they are bullied in Europe, US, Canada and Australia (mainly), while every other person can enjoy their choice of clothing, wearing bikinis, or not wearing at all.

     

    And I do believe while we support freedom in belief and speech, we have double standards when people believe in something that we don´t.

     

    Is that fair?? To allow someone to wear a tiny bikini and not to allow someone a burquini (which covers the body and the hair)???  And why don´t we strip off the nuns as well, they are fully covered too?????

     

     

    Whoooaaaa there! I have no idea which region of the world you´re referring to but I don´t know a European country that allows walking naked in the streets. As a matter of fact, I have never seen people in bikini in the street even in 35C heat, so, please, do not compare beach outfits with everyday clothing as it´s a missed comparison. Even following your line of reasoning, allowing burka in the evil west should happen at the same time countries like Saudi allow women to wear bikinis in the streets or walk around naked. Besides, you failed to acknowledge another factor of why burkas should be banned - the public safety issue. I don´t think it´s allowed to walk in the streets in a balaclava. Why should it be allowed to wear burka? If I´m not mistaken you may get in trouble in certain cities if you have a hoodie on your head, how´s that regarding personal freedom?

     

    Although, as you write, women are not necessarily forced to wear these discriminatory clothes, how can a country that grants equality tell the difference between women forced to humiliate themselves consciously and those who are forced to it?

     

    4028.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 03:35 am

    Believe it or not, you seem to have been in more conservative areas....in SF and NYC I have seen too much nakedness parading around in the streets. (for my taste anyway) I choose the word naked, rather than nude on purpose. Groan....it hurt my eyes!  Some things are better covered. It´s not illegal in quite a few places, and more than a few take advantage of that "freedom"

     

    You should come here and see what one sees during the summertime. I remember one time in NYC seeing a man wearing nothing but a gourd on his privates, a ladies wig on his knee walking down the street....everything else was bare...Puking

     

    I think we are getting somewhat confused with semantics. Burka???please define exactly what it is? Do you mean the Afghani thing with the grid over the eyes? I tried one of those on and really found it hard to see out of, and my eyelashes got stuck in the grid. I have no idea how those ladies manage.  I have spoken with a few Afghani women who told me they had no problem with them, but I notice they do not wear them here.  Wearing a long robe and head covering really should not present any problem IMHO.

     

    Wearing something that covers ones face like a balaclava is something else and I certainly understand why people would be upset about them.

     

    I undersand how some women may feel more comfortable wearing a covering.  It´s sort of like going out but not being out.  Like having an invisibility cloak...but when they are in Western countries, they shouldn´t expect it. 

     

    If you ever wore one of the all covering things, you might find your feelings change. In the "West" we are used to seeing more physicality of individuals. In the Burka wearing societies, other things are seen.

     

    They are very recognizable by their movement and posture. 

     

    You see things you do not see when you are looking at the same women in Western garments.

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    Whoooaaaa there! I have no idea which region of the world you´re referring to but I don´t know a European country that allows walking naked in the streets. As a matter of fact, I have never seen people in bikini in the street even in 35C heat, so, please, do not compare beach outfits with everyday clothing as it´s a missed comparison. Even following your line of reasoning, allowing burka in the evil west should happen at the same time countries like Saudi allow women to wear bikinis in the streets or walk around naked. Besides, you failed to acknowledge another factor of why burkas should be banned - the public safety issue. I don´t think it´s allowed to walk in the streets in a balaclava. Why should it be allowed to wear burka? If I´m not mistaken you may get in trouble in certain cities if you have a hoodie on your head, how´s that regarding personal freedom?

     

    Although, as you write, women are not necessarily forced to wear these discriminatory clothes, how can a country that grants equality tell the difference between women forced to humiliate themselves consciously and those who are forced to it?

     

     

     

    4029.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 07:24 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    Whoooaaaa there! I have no idea which region of the world you´re referring to but I don´t know a European country that allows walking naked in the streets. As a matter of fact, I have never seen people in bikini in the street even in 35C heat, so, please, do not compare beach outfits with everyday clothing as it´s a missed comparison.

     

    I guess you have never been to Turkey, go to Antalya, Bodrum, Alanya, etc... I guarantee you see people in bikinis and swimming clothes shopping from the supermarkets, eating in reastaurant, topless women lying in the beach, in front of families and kids,like the most natural thing in the world. 

    It´s not only bikinis.  I am living in a Muslim Arab country, but I still see people in the supermarket, and sometimes in the malls, with very tiny tank tops and tiny mini shorts which exposes half of their buttocks.

    And are you telling me you don´t see them in Europe?  Well, may be you need some glasses.

     

     Even following your line of reasoning, allowing burka in the evil west should happen at the same time countries like Saudi allow women to wear bikinis in the streets or walk around naked. Besides, you failed to acknowledge another factor of why burkas should be banned - the public safety issue. I don´t think it´s allowed to walk in the streets in a balaclava. Why should it be allowed to wear burka? If I´m not mistaken you may get in trouble in certain cities if you have a hoodie on your head, how´s that regarding personal freedom?

     

    I am not a supporter of Saudi Arabia, yet they never talk about freedom like you people do.  You are the ones who pushes everything to the limits and want everything to be free for you.  You can be Gay and get married, you can make fun of every religion and every important thing other people care about, but when it comes to freedom of belief in particularly Islam, and covering your hair, and wearing clothes that doesn´t show your curves, breasts and body, your support of freedom ends there.

     

    Although, as you write, women are not necessarily forced to wear these discriminatory clothes, how can a country that grants equality tell the difference between women forced to humiliate themselves consciously and those who are forced to it?

     

    So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.

    You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top  and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND.

     

     I hope I haven´t been too hateful... but I don´t like people to force me neither to cover up nor open up....

     

    Freedom is for everyone.



    Edited (10/14/2009) by Merih

    4030.       _AE_
    677 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 11:44 am

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

     I hope I haven´t been too hateful... but I don´t like people to force me neither to cover up nor open up....

     

    Freedom is for everyone.

     

     It seems you are unable to rationally discuss this - you are comparing a burka to a bikini, instead of everyday clothes that people wear - the majority of which would satisfy the Quran´s requirement!  As this muslim group in Canada are saying, the burka has nothing to do with the Quran and more to do with men´s jealousy.

     

    If you live in an arab country, then you must be aware that such "rules" create extremes.  It is common to see women shopping in their burkas for their tiny mini skirts, sexy tops and lingerie (much of which would be too tarty even for the west!! lol ) and going home to play the slut for their demanding husbands.  If you support this hypocracy then fine, but please dont call it "freedom for everyone"

    4031.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 12:13 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     It seems you are unable to rationally discuss this - you are comparing a burka to a bikini, instead of everyday clothes that people wear - the majority of which would satisfy the Quran´s requirement!  As this muslim group in Canada are saying, the burka has nothing to do with the Quran and more to do with men´s jealousy.

     

    If you live in an arab country, then you must be aware that such "rules" create extremes.  It is common to see women shopping in their burkas for their tiny mini skirts, sexy tops and lingerie (much of which would be too tarty even for the west!! lol ) and going home to play the slut for their demanding husbands.  If you support this hypocracy then fine, but please dont call it "freedom for everyone"

     

    I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it.  And for those women in Canada,

    the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help? 

    Because this is what they want.

     

    Of course I am not talking about Saudi, Iran or Afghanistan, where you are forced to.

     

    But why can´t your minds understand that some people believe in Islam, and do as their religion requires.

     

    Well, I see lots of westerners as well here in Dubai..... you wouldn´t  believe what they are wearing.  And why can´t a women in an Abbaya (it is a long, very expensive black lose dress, comes with a matching black head scarf) shops for lingerie and shares fantasies with her husband?  Why would you call her a slut?  Don´t you do with your husband or boyfriend?

     

    Is the only way to exist as a not humiliated woman is to open up?

     

    And I was not comparing bikini with the normal clothes, but actually comparing it with a burquini - which is an Islamic swimwear - that was banned in France??????????

    Could you tell me why you can go to the pool half naked, but not allowed if you are covered???

     

    And why doesn´t anybody get bothered about nuns? the clothes are very similar, are you going to strip them off in Canada too?  I don´t think so.

     

    This is what is called hypocracy.

    4032.       _AE_
    677 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 01:18 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

    I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it.  And for those women in Canada,

    the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help? 

    Because this is what they want.

     Of course the government protects women in Burkas - the west is far to busy being "politically correct".  It is MUSLIMS who have called for this ban!

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     But why can´t your minds understand that some people believe in Islam, and do as their religion requires.

     

     Again  - it is the MUSLIM COMMUNITY in Canada who are calling for this ban.  Where did I say that I don´t understand that people believe in Islam?   A burka has nothing to do with Islam - just men´s jealousy taking "covering your ornaments" to mean COVERING YOURSELF COMPLETELY because they are so insanely insecure that they cannot bear the thought of men looking at their "property".

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

    And why doesn´t anybody get bothered about nuns? the clothes are very similar, are you going to strip them off in Canada too?  I don´t think so.

     

     Haha you are very naive if you compare Nun´s habit with Burka.  A nun wears those clothes out of her own personal choice, lives with other women, and NEVER changes out of those clothes into sexy ones as soon as the doors are closed.  She is doing it solely for her belief and her clothes do not hinder her movement - her face is not covered. 

     

    As to your objection of my word "slut" - the hypocracy of the change in dress smacks of it.  But perhaps I was a bit harsh - there is a big difference between natural, mutual sexuality and enforced sexuality.  Anything that is expected and demanded of a woman sexually is not a mutual thing between husband and wife, as you so romantically put it, but verges on rape and dominance.

     

    Don´t use your "islam" card to defend this issue - muslims all over the word disagree with the burka.



    Edited (10/14/2009) by _AE_ [Offfff written hastily during a work meeting - excuse grammar and any spelling!!!!]

    4033.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 01:57 pm

    Just a quickie, the woman in France was not allowed to a swimming pool just as I wouldn´t be allowed there in jeans and turtle-neck. Whould you support my right to bathe in those?

     

    "So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.

    You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top  and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND".


    Yes, I think it´s humiliating for a woman to be forced to wear a bag for the comfort of men. Are you saying burka is for the protection of women? Not to make men with low self-esteem more assured that their women (I used the possessive pronoun here on purpose) remain theirs? Why it´s bad for women to show their face? Why men shouldn´t be veiled?


    Oh, so freedom to decide whether to show your legs or your cleavage or not is what turns women into a piece of meat? I thought that considering them nothing but a stimulus for men´s sins does.


    How can you be so blind to see that women who dress inappropriately in your view do so of choice, there is no huband/society/father behind it to tell them a woman must look slutty. They wear what they want, nobody is forced to do so. A lot of burka-wearing ladies suffer consequences if they dare  not to wrap themselves up like a present that they owner can unwrap only.


    I´d be perfectly fine with headscarf - it´s not dangerous in terms of public safety - if only worn by choice. Burkas (or niqabs) are nothing but a yore men put on women because it´s more convenient for them this way.


    true, I don´t know what women in NY wear and it sure is hard for me to imagine somebody would come out wearing just a thingy on his genitals. In Europe (and I have seen quite a part of it) I have never seen bikini-wearing or nude people in the streets. Sure, many girls wear tiny tops and tiny skirts but that´s what they choose to wear and I don´t see how it´s wrong? I imagine you´ll give me the media argument. But it´s not an obligation, is it?

     

    What is wrong with wearing a mini skirt at work? Although, I don´t think all jobs allow it. Most have dress codes. And the idea that only the beautiful and slutty get jobs is ridiculous. As a matter of fact a lot of beautiful women with brains suffer because people like you focus only on the outside and put their success down to their looks not their brains...You are full of prejudice my friend


    Thanks for calling me a lier, in your mouth it is a compliment. Burka is freedom, freedom to wear what you choose is not. Right Roll eyes

    4034.       _AE_
    677 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 02:03 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Just a quickie, the woman in France was not allowed to a swimming pool just as I wouldn´t be allowed there in jeans and turtle-neck. Whould you support my right to bathe in those?

     

    "So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.

    You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top  and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND".


    Yes, I think it´s humiliating for a woman to be forced to wear a bag for the comfort of men. Are you saying burka is for the protection of women? Not to make men with low self-esteem more assured that their women (I used the possessive pronoun here on purpose) remain theirs? Why it´s bad for women to show their face? Why men shouldn´t be veiled?


    Oh, so freedom to decide whether to show your legs or your cleavage or not is what turns women into a piece of meat? I thought that considering them nothing but a stimulus for men´s sins does.


    How can you be so blind to see that women who dress inappropriately in your view do so of choice, there is no huband/society/father behind it to tell them a woman must look slutty. They wear what they want, nobody is forced to do so. A lot of burka-wearing ladies suffer consequences if they dare  not to wrap themselves up like a present that they owner can unwrap only.


    I´d be perfectly fine with headscarf - it´s not dangerous in terms of public safety - if only worn by choice. Burkas (or niqabs) are nothing but a yore men put on women because it´s more convenient for them this way.


    true, I don´t know what women in NY wear and it sure is hard for me to imagine somebody would come out wearing just a thingy on his genitals. In Europe (and I have seen quite a part of it) I have never seen bikini-wearing or nude people in the streets. Sure, many girls wear tiny tops and tiny skirts but that´s what they choose to wear and I don´t see how it´s wrong? I imagine you´ll give me the media argument. But it´s not an obligation, is it?

     

    What is wrong with wearing a mini skirt at work? Although, I don´t think all jobs allow it. Most have dress codes. And the idea that only the beautiful and slutty get jobs is ridiculous. As a matter of fact a lot of beautiful women with brains suffer because people like you focus only on the outside and put their success down to their looks not their brains...You are full of prejudice my friend


    Thanks for calling me a lier, in your mouth it is a compliment. Burka is freedom, freedom to wear what you choose is not. Right Roll eyes

     

     

    4035.       libralady
    5152 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 03:14 pm

    Oh no our fun has been spoilt, we are no longer aloud to drive through puddles and splash people on the side of the road Cry

     

     

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091014/tuk-driver-charged-for-splashing-school-45dbed5.html

    4036.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 03:27 pm

    First of all:

      Burqa - does not cover the face, niqab or pardah covers the face.

    Quoting Merih

     

     

    I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it.  And for those women in Canada,

    the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help? 

    Because this is what they want.

     Of course the government protects women in Burkas - the west is far to busy being "politically correct".  It is MUSLIMS who have called for this ban!

     

    "Violance against woman, Australia says no"

    This is valid in Australia, and if I were to call the hotline provided, they would help me, provide me a space, provide food, and money / a job until I am well off. No matter if I am Muslim or not. No matter if I am wearing an Abaya / Burqa or not.

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     But why can´t your minds understand that some people believe in Islam, and do as their religion requires.

     

     Again  - it is the MUSLIM COMMUNITY in Canada who are calling for this ban.  Where did I say that I don´t understand that people believe in Islam?   A burka has nothing to do with Islam - just men´s jealousy taking "covering your ornaments" to mean COVERING YOURSELF COMPLETELY because they are so insanely insecure that they cannot bear the thought of men looking at their "property".

     

    So people can only believe in Islam according to your terms and rules, and there is no way they can believe and wear an Abaya / Burqa because they want to.

    Very good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

    And why doesn´t anybody get bothered about nuns? the clothes are very similar, are you going to strip them off in Canada too?  I don´t think so.

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Haha you are very naive if you compare Nun´s habit with Burka.  A nun wears those clothes out of her own personal choice, lives with other women, and NEVER changes out of those clothes into sexy ones as soon as the doors are closed.  She is doing it solely for her belief and her clothes do not hinder her movement - her face is not covered. 

     

     So a nun can do it only because of her believes, but when a Muslim women does it, it is because she is forced, and she is a slut in bed, 

    For you information, Islam does not call any women or men not to marry if they are going to follow Islam strictly.  It allows you to maintain a normal life with belief.  And believe me if it did, they would not be married and living with other women like nuns.

    As to your objection of my word "slut" - the hypocracy of the change in dress smacks of it.  But perhaps I was a bit harsh - there is a big difference between natural, mutual sexuality and enforced sexuality.  Anything that is expected and demanded of a woman sexually is not a mutual thing between husband and wife, as you so romantically put it, but verges on rape and dominance.

    I think you have been wandering in the bedrooms of these women so that you know it is not normal sex but a rape and dominance every single tim.  What you don´t understand is, a women is allowed to show her beauties and share her fantasies with her husband, so she can wear mini skirts or any kind of lingerie.

    You are not the one to set the rules what a Muslim women can wear in her bedroom. 

    Don´t use your "islam" card to defend this issue - muslims all over the word disagree with the burka.

    Like I said before, the burqa does not cover the face.  The niqab or pardah does.  And what the Muslims are against is the veil on the face, not the Abaya/ Burqa.. and if all the Muslims were against it, then who would be wearing it and why would you be worried?

     

     

    4037.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 03:50 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Just a quickie, the woman in France was not allowed to a swimming pool just as I wouldn´t be allowed there in jeans and turtle-neck. Whould you support my right to bathe in those?

    Not exactly.. burquini is a swimwear, that you only wear it for swimming, made of the same swim material as bikinis, only a covered one.  If you think it is the same thing as your turtle neck and jeans, you are wrong.   And are you saying that to be able to swim you have to get naked?  Come on, be fair to yourself at least.

     

     

    "So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.

    You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top  and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND".


    Yes, I think it´s humiliating for a woman to be forced to wear a bag for the comfort of men. Are you saying burka is for the protection of women? Not to make men with low self-esteem more assured that their women (I used the possessive pronoun here on purpose) remain theirs? Why it´s bad for women to show their face? Why men shouldn´t be veiled?

    I agree if they are forced.  What if they are not?  And I am definiteley against the face veil by the way.


    Oh, so freedom to decide whether to show your legs or your cleavage or not is what turns women into a piece of meat? I thought that considering them nothing but a stimulus for men´s sins does.

    I am saying that today´s society is forcing today´s women´s clothes, body image, hair color, everything.  And believe me it is stronger than a husband, or a family.

    How can you be so blind to see that women who dress inappropriately in your view do so of choice, there is no huband/society/father behind it to tell them a woman must look slutty. They wear what they want, nobody is forced to do so. A lot of burka-wearing ladies suffer consequences if they dare  not to wrap themselves up like a present that they owner can unwrap only.

    And how do you know it?  Please, did you talk to every one of those women who are wearing Abayas?  Because I talked to, and I know lots of westerners in where I live, who were women like you, and married some very rich Arabs from here, (sometimes second wife), happily showing off their very expensive Abaya´s, and believe me they are as clever and educated as yourselves, but nobody is ever complaining.

     

    I´d be perfectly fine with headscarf - it´s not dangerous in terms of public safety - if only worn by choice. Burkas (or niqabs) are nothing but a yore men put on women because it´s more convenient for them this way.

    So, may be we should change Islam according to your views.  Please list how would you like the Muslim women to be dressed, and may be how to practice their religion too???  What would be more public safe?

     

    true, I don´t know what women in NY wear and it sure is hard for me to imagine somebody would come out wearing just a thingy on his genitals. In Europe (and I have seen quite a part of it) I have never seen bikini-wearing or nude people in the streets. Sure, many girls wear tiny tops and tiny skirts but that´s what they choose to wear and I don´t see how it´s wrong? I imagine you´ll give me the media argument. But it´s not an obligation, is it?

    I have no problems with women who wear tiny sexy clothes, and I have no problem who prefer not to wear them.  You have the problem.  You think they are allowed to choose, but the others are not public-safe.  Do you hear what you are saying?

     

    What is wrong with wearing a mini skirt at work? Although, I don´t think all jobs allow it. Most have dress codes. And the idea that only the beautiful and slutty get jobs is ridiculous. As a matter of fact a lot of beautiful women with brains suffer because people like you focus only on the outside and put their success down to their looks not their brains...You are full of prejudice my friend

    Well, no women suffer because they are only beautiful, they suffer when they show their privates to everyone in public and flirt with everyone instead of showing off their brains.


    Thanks for calling me a lier, in your mouth it is a compliment. Burka is freedom, freedom to wear what you choose is not. Right Roll eyes

     

     I think freedom is freedom, it does not choose color, race and religion.  You want to wear a mini skirt, wear it, and allow the other one to wear what they want.  Live and let live...  You can´t have freedom one sided.

    By the way, I am not a burqa wearing woman, I don´t cover my head, and I don´t wear Muslim clothings.  But I do think if I have a right not to wear, then there should exist the right to wear.

    4038.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 03:57 pm

    And you don´t have jealous husbands, pushy families in Europe, in US, in Canada or else where?  The women never get raped by their husbands???  The husbands never force you to wear in a particular way?? ETC..

     

    There are bad people everywhere, and you can not group them only as the husbands or the father´s of burqa wearing women?

     

    And the practice in a well known Arab country - is not correct, they are abusive and male oriented.  Women has no name,and I condemn them to encourage extremism of islam. 



    Edited (10/14/2009) by Merih

    4039.       _AE_
    677 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 04:48 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

    First of all:

      Burqa - does not cover the face, niqab or pardah covers the face.

    Quoting Merih

     

     

    I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it.  And for those women in Canada,

    the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help? 

    Because this is what they want.

     

     

     

     The way you reply makes it impossible to quote you point by point - but I get the feeling it is a wasted exercise anyway.  Go on with your misguided belief that burkas are part of Islam if that makes you happy canim - you are not worth any more of my time  

    4040.       _AE_
    677 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 04:50 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

    And you don´t have jealous husbands, pushy families in Europe, in US, in Canada or else where?  The women never get raped by their husbands???  The husbands never force you to wear in a particular way?? ETC..

     

    There are bad people everywhere, and you can not group them only as the husbands or the father´s of burqa wearing women?

     

    And the practice in a well known Arab country - is not correct, they are abusive and male oriented.  Women has no name,and I condemn them to encourage extremism of islam. 

     

     Yes there are bad men everywhere - but to support a culture which persists in the degradation of women and regards them as possessions and second class citizens really does not help women does it? You crazy?

    4041.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 05:37 pm

    Ah, TC!  Nice to see that the mere mention of burqas can still get a conversation going!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    4042.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 05:39 pm

    How many women actually wear a burka in Canada? Most people say burka when they mean nijab. I´ve never EVER seen a burka for real in my life. A burka even closes the eyes of a woman..so seriously, how many women would a burka-ban affect?

    4043.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 05:48 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    How many women actually wear a burka in Canada? Most people say burka when they mean nijab. I´ve never EVER seen a burka for real in my life. A burka even closes the eyes of a woman..so seriously, how many women would a burka-ban affect?

     

     It´s so cold in Canada anyway!  In the winter, with all the clothes, hats and other coverings.....a burka would probably just be easier!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

     

    Just a little aside....I believe ski masks are still legal!  However, if you see someone walking around in a public place with one on, chances are you will think you are going to get mugged!!

    4044.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 06:04 pm

    All I am trying to say is:

     

    Why can´t we just be tolerant about each other?

    Every one is responsible for their own lives, and if noone is asking for help, who are we to try to save them.

     

    Wouldn´t it be like Iraq, to save them from a chaos and bring in another chaos, and worse than before???

    4045.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 06:22 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

    All I am trying to say is:

     

    Why can´t we just be tolerant about each other?

    Every one is responsible for their own lives, and if noone is asking for help, who are we to try to save them.

     

    Wouldn´t it be like Iraq, to save them from a chaos and bring in another chaos, and worse than before???

     

     Merih, I think in a perfect world, we can tolerate eachother with no problems....but this is not a perfect world and in the world there are people who do not have good intentions.  Unfortunately, in our world, burka´s do not say, "I am friendly and tolerant." 

    4046.       Merih
    933 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 06:32 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Merih, I think in a perfect world, we can tolerate eachother with no problems....but this is not a perfect world and in the world there are people who do not have good intentions.  Unfortunately, in our world, burka´s do not say, "I am friendly and tolerant." 

     

     I do understand that.. that´s very kind of you.  I have this discussion with even my own mum, and my aunt, both well educated, brought up in Turkey.. and they can´t tolerate at all.  No surprise you people don´t like it and I totally understand that.

     

    No hard feelings at all.  Flowers

    4047.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 07:27 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

      ............. It is common to see women shopping in their burkas for their tiny mini skirts, sexy tops and lingerie (much of which would be too tarty even for the west!! lol ) and going home to play the slut for their demanding husbands.  If you support this hypocracy then fine, but please dont call it "freedom for everyone"

     

    ummm......I don´t think a wife dressing and acting in a way to have fun with her husband constitutes being a slut...........how Victorian of you. I am surprised at you.

    4048.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 07:34 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Yes there are bad men everywhere - but to support a culture which persists in the degradation of women and regards them as possessions and second class citizens really does not help women does it? You crazy?

     

    Bad men exist everywhere.....but I think you are confusing cultures and put the blame in the wrong place.  Do you think being a pimp to one´s women is good? In many cultures women are used to sell products.....now what do you call that....I´d call it pimping.



    Edited (10/14/2009) by alameda [spell]

    4049.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 07:50 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     It seems you are unable to rationally discuss this - you are comparing a burka to a bikini, instead of everyday clothes that people wear - the majority of which would satisfy the Quran´s requirement!  As this muslim group in Canada are saying, the burka has nothing to do with the Quran and more to do with men´s jealousy.

    I´m happy to see you have read and understand that the total covering is not an Islamic rule....I´m sure you realize this tradition did not origin with Islamic culture....

     

    Bronze statuette of a veiled and masked dancer Greek, Hellenistic, 3rd–2nd century B.C.

    Actually the first documentation of female veiling appears to come out of the rights of Isis...who said "No man has seen my face"...initiates to her cult covered their faces....that cult spread throughout the Mediterranean.  She became Our Lady of Byblos, Demeter........and so on....

     

     



    Edited (10/14/2009) by alameda

    4050.       armegon
    1872 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 08:12 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

     3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.

     

    Yes, thats also kind of traditional wearing of Arab women but the wrong thing is to impose this wearing as an order of Islam which is the case mostly and to label women as nonmuslims who do not wear it. Islam firstly advices modesty, and wearing according to this, is kinda relativity that diversifies from environment to environment, society to society and culture to culture. I can understand anyone has right to wear anything freely if it does not restrict the freedom of others but i am against if this type of wearing is used for politically like a uniform or a symbol and if burka is forced on women to oppress them which are those some of the case we encounter unfortunately. So i happen to agree with AE & DD who were i think criticizing these situations.

    4051.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 08:14 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Ah, TC!  Nice to see that the mere mention of burqas can still get a conversation going!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    While looking for info on this, I found this....

     

    Of women the pope and veils....

     

    Look....even Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush and Queen Elizabeth are wearing veils!  I must admit, they are not the all covering burqas though. ....but one can see the link to an older tradition.

     

    Here is a photo of Jackie Kennedy at the funeral of JFK......in her widow veil

     

     

    4052.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 09:33 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    While looking for info on this, I found this....

     

    Of women the pope and veils....

     

    Look....even Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush and Queen Elizabeth are wearing veils!  I must admit, they are not the all covering burqas though. ....but one can see the link to an older tradition.

     

    Here is a photo of Jackie Kennedy at the funeral of JFK......in her widow veil

     

     

     

     My grandmother always wore a veil to church....but nobody ever forced her to.  She did it out of her sense of tradition.  I definately don´t have a problem with covering if it is your choice.....but I whole heartedly agree that many women who wear burkas are forced to be a certain way in a male dominated society.  I had the opportunity to spend time in Saudi Arabia and women MUST wear a burka or they can get in a lot of trouble with the religious police....who are EVERYWHERE! 

     

    Perhaps many western women don´t understand why a woman would choose to wear one here in the west because it is not required.  It is hard to understand why someone would voluntarily wear one.  To us western women it is a symbol of oppression.



    Edited (10/14/2009) by Elisabeth

    4053.       armegon
    1872 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 10:02 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    women MUST wear a burka or they can get in a lot of trouble with the religious police....who are EVERYWHERE! 

     

    This is only valid for muslim women in KSA, if you are not, you dont need to wear burqa or cover your head. Further to this mostly Saudi women wear veil, Masri women do not, even Jordanian women do not cover their heads thats what i observed so far. I have also seen a group of Saudi women beating mutavva lol

     



    Edited (10/14/2009) by armegon

    4054.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     14 Oct 2009 Wed 11:36 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

    Quoting Merih

     3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.

     

    Yes, thats also kind of traditional wearing of Arab women but the wrong thing is to impose this wearing as an order of Islam which is the case mostly and to label women as nonmuslims who do not wear it. Islam firstly advices modesty, and wearing according to this, is kinda relativity that diversifies from environment to environment, society to society and culture to culture. I can understand anyone has right to wear anything freely if it does not restrict the freedom of others but i am against if this type of wearing is used for politically like a uniform or a symbol and if burka is forced on women to oppress them which are those some of the case we encounter unfortunately. So i happen to agree with AE & DD who were i think criticizing these situations.

     

    did the hell freeze or what? No way

    Thank you, A Thank you, thank you! that´s exactly what I meant

     

    Merih - of course some women are happy to be wife number two or three, just as some are happy to be hit and abused by their husbands/boyfriends. Some are happy to marry whoever their family sold them to and some prefer their future not to depend on the amount of goats their prospective husband is willing to pay. The point is that law should be the same for everyone and gave the same protection and chances to everyone. If you come from a family that lets you decide what to wear, it´s no problem but what if your family forces you to wear burka (ok, I always say burka when I mean niquab, they´re basically the same for me) don´t you think that unless the country you live in supports you, you can´t win? I see where the Canadian Muslims are coming from, it´s means of stopping radicals from enslaving their daughters/wives. And they have a point there.

     

    Regarding burkini, it does not resemble swimwear and it´s basically no different from jeans and turtle-neck. Where did I imply that I am in favour of swimming naked? Swimsuits work just fine. And they don´t have to be bikinis, there´s a lot of choice these days

    4055.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 07:21 am

    Do you realise that in almost all of these post :

     

    You are offering alternative clothes - so they are not allowed to wear what they like, unless the clothes are approved by you

     

    Like Elisabeth said: you can´t believe  that any women would chose to wear a burqa / Abaya if choice was given, and you are wrong.

     

    And yes, this clothing shows that you are a Muslim, and that is exactly the purpose.

     

    And we are definitely not discussing Saudi, Afghanistan and Iran as they force women and abuse women.

    4056.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 07:26 am

     

    Quoting armegon

     

    Quoting Merih

     3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.

     

    Yes, thats also kind of traditional wearing of Arab women but the wrong thing is to impose this wearing as an order of Islam which is the case mostly and to label women as nonmuslims who do not wear it. Islam firstly advices modesty, and wearing according to this, is kinda relativity that diversifies from environment to environment, society to society and culture to culture. I can understand anyone has right to wear anything freely if it does not restrict the freedom of others but i am against if this type of wearing is used for politically like a uniform or a symbol and if burka is forced on women to oppress them which are those some of the case we encounter unfortunately. So i happen to agree with AE & DD who were i think criticizing these situations.

     

     Yes, I know it exist in Turkey,lots of women, wearing hijab or burqas:

    May offend you, by saying you are not a Muslim,

    They may use it as a political uniform

    They may get paid to wear so,

     

    But it doesn´t mean you can jugde everyone with the same view.

     

    In Arab countries Abaya /  Burqa is a national dress, and it is Islamic too.  That is what the previous Muslim women were wearing. 

     

    And believe me if you were living in 50 degrees plus %80 humidity 6 months of the year, you wouldn´t want to wear anything tight or open.

    4057.       _AE_
    677 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 09:47 am

     

    Quoting Merih

     In Arab countries Abaya /  Burqa is a national dress, and it is Islamic too.  That is what the previous Muslim women were wearing. 

     

    And believe me if you were living in 50 degrees plus %80 humidity 6 months of the year, you wouldn´t want to wear anything tight or open.

     

     Burka national dress and historic?!?!?!!!!  Headscarfs may have been, but burka?!?!  lol

     

    In my country women used to wear big crinoline dresses - does that mean we should wear them now? lol

    4058.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 11:01 am

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Burka national dress and historic?!?!?!!!!  Headscarfs may have been, but burka?!?!  lol

     

    In my country women used to wear big crinoline dresses - does that mean we should wear them now? lol

     

    for once, I have to agree with you. Big smile

     

    in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.

     

    and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.

     

    4059.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:13 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    for once, I have to agree with you. Big smile

     

    in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.

     

    and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.

     

     

     Well, the story I heard is actually different.

     

    When Ataturk was changing the dress code for the country, - which is a big big thing -, these women in this particular village did not want to change.  But Ataturk did want his countryto look like the European countries.  So the village council declared that all the prostitues will have to wear a burqa whenever they go out, otherwise they will be punished.  After that all the respectable women took of their abayas and head scarves.

     

    4060.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:18 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    for once, I have to agree with you. Big smile

     

    in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.

     

    and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.

     

     

     regarding the history of burqa:

    ref:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

     

    This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.[citation needed]

     

    4061.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:21 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Burka national dress and historic?!?!?!!!!  Headscarfs may have been, but burka?!?!  lol

     

    In my country women used to wear big crinoline dresses - does that mean we should wear them now? lol

     

     No, but if they did, would you ban it by law and humiliate them????????????  Would you tell them that they don´t have identities, or choices, or sluts in bed? C´mon!!!!

    4062.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:24 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

     regarding the history of burqa:

    ref:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

     

    This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.[citation needed]

     

     

     

    we are not talking about a simple veil. you can`t compare today`s burka to the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate. a veil used for protection does not dictate people not to expose their hair in any way.

     

    4063.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:30 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

     

    we are not talking about a simple veil. you can`t compare today`s burka to the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate. a veil used for protection does not dictate people not to expose their hair in any way.

     

     

     For God´s sake, what are you discussing, first you said Burqa is not a national dress, but what the prostitutes wear.. now I prove it has a history long before Islam as a national dress, now you say you can´t compare...  can you follow what you are saying?  Please check the website provided for the full description of what a burqa is and was.. then we can discuss later.

    4064.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:39 pm

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

     For God´s sake, what are you discussing, first you said Burqa is not a national dress, but what the prostitutes wear.. now I prove it has a history long before Islam as a national dress, now you say you can´t compare...  can you follow what you are saying?  Please check the website provided for the full description of what a burqa is and was.. then we can discuss later.

     

    when did I say it wasn`t a national dress? of course it` s a national dress in a few countries like iran, what Im saying is it`s not a traditional dress code. you`re talking about the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate and argue that it`s what makes burka traditional. how can you say that everywhere in Arabia is desert? you think people wore burka in the cities before islam, if you argue that it is a pre-islamic tradition? for what reason?

     

    and you proved me that it has a history long before islam as a national dress? there wasn`t anything "national" before the French revolution.



    Edited (10/15/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

    4065.       Merih
    933 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 12:43 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    when did I say it wasn`t a national dress? of course it` s a national dress in a few countries like iran, what Im saying is it`s not a traditional dress code. you`re talking about the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate and argue that it`s what makes burka traditional. how can you say that everywhere in Arabia is desert? you think people wore burka in the cities before islam, if you argue that it is a pre-islamic tradition? for what reason?

     

    and you proved me that it has a history long before islam as a national dress? there wasn`t anything "national" before the French revolution.

     

     blah blah blah.........

    and you are???

    4066.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 09:49 pm

    I beg to differ with you all here.  By what ever name you call it, please look here at this 2nd or 3rd Century BC Hellenistic:

    Bronze Statuette 

     

    or this one from the first Century AD Roman :
    Palmyran Statue Fragment of a Veiled Dancer

     

    You can, and I suggest you do, zoom in very close in, particular eyes area.  If you do you will see these garment is almost an exact duplicate of garments worn in Arabia today.

     

    Quoting Merih

     

     

     regarding the history of burqa:

    ref:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

     

    This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.[citation needed]

     

     

     

    4067.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 10:38 pm

    pfff...like I said before, that statue that you can see a link of above here, that´s not a burqa. You could describe it perhaps as a nijab, but it´s not a burqa... i don´t think anybody outside of afghanistan has seen a burqa.

    4068.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Oct 2009 Thu 10:59 pm

    Wrong....actually that´s what I thought, but....the word burqa is an Arabic word.

     

    "Taken from the Arabic word ´برقع´ which exactly means face cover with eye openings. It does not mean the whole black dress. The black dress is called Abaya"

     

    Both the scultures show a burqa....or what you would call a niqab....and abaya.........I think the point of the original source of this discourse was the objection to the obstruction of identity....as caused by face covering....and in particular the claim that it is demanded by Islam.

     

    The sculptures show this tradition was in practice long before the advent of Islamic civilization, and as such did not have origins in Islam.

     

    .............and for your interest, I have seen, and actually have a burqa....and a niqab....and an abaya....not that I wear them.....and for those who don´t like Wikipedia....this information was told to me in person by more than a few persons native to the Arabian  Gulf.

     

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    pfff...like I said before, that statue that you can see a link of above here, that´s not a burqa. You could describe it perhaps as a nijab, but it´s not a burqa... i don´t think anybody outside of afghanistan has seen a burqa.

     

     



    Edited (10/15/2009) by alameda [add]
    Edited (10/15/2009) by alameda [add]

    4069.       alameda
    3499 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 12:16 am

     

    I love Ms. Muazzez Ýlmiye Çýð....thank you for mentioning her here.

    Her website...

     

    I´d love to read more of her research. I might point out just what or who an Arab is...or who anyone is seems to be fluid. The  fact of the matter is ancient Sumer was in what is now Arab land.....

    "Iraq was home to the earliest known civilization on Earth, the Sumerian civilization, which arose in the fertile Tigris-Euphrates river valley of southern Iraq in the mid 6th millennium BC."

     

    ........some Lebanese call themselves Phoenecians..which is interesting because it seems to me there are quite a few others who could call themselves by the same name. Map

     

    FWIW.....I have even met some who claim to be Assyrians......Hmmm....I wonder what their relationship is to Assyria....What´s in a name...evidently....quite a lot!.......I guess the name dictates the sweetness of the smell......for some.

     

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    for once, I have to agree with you. Big smile

     

    in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.

     

    and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.

     

     

     



    Edited (10/16/2009) by alameda [add]

    4070.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 08:20 am


    A RADICAL Muslim group sparked outrage last night as it launched a massive campaign to impose sharia law on Britain.




     


    The fanatical group Islam4UK has ­announced plans to hold a potentially ­incendiary rally in London later this month. And it is calling for a complete upheaval of the British legal system, its officials and ­legislation. Members have urged Muslims from all over Britain to converge on the capital on October 31 for a procession to demand the full implementation of sharia law. On a website to promote their cause they deride British institutions, showing a mock-up picture of Nelson’s Column surmounted by a minaret. Plans for the demonstration have been ­delivered to the Metropolitan Police and could see up to 5,000 extremists marching to demand the controversial system.


     


    The procession – dubbed March 4 Shari’ah – will start at the House of Commons, which the group’s website describes as the “very place where the lives of millions of people in the UK are changed and it is from here where unjust wars are launched”. The group then intends to march to 10 Downing Street and “call for the removal of the tyrant Gordon Brown from power”. The march will then converge on Trafalgar Square where protesters expect it “will gather even more support from tourists and members of the public, making clear in the heart of London the need for Shari’ah in society”.


     


    The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.


    “On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”


     


    More


    4071.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 03:11 pm

    lol, does anybody take this seriously?... good luck standing in the rain guys

    4072.       armegon
    1872 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 03:38 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ24Mw_r0eo

    4073.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 06:22 pm

    Rice Field Art in Japan - Amazing!

     

    Link

    4074.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 06:29 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Rice Field Art in Japan - Amazing!

     

    Link

     

     Wow!  That´s pretty cool!

    4075.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 06:32 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.

    “On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”

     

    More

     

    Have they thought of moving somewhere that has Sharia law in place already?  They sound very unhappy!  I am fairly sure that Britian would be very happy to arrange their boat trip to the Sharia loving country of their choice!

     

    4076.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 06:36 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    Have they thought of moving somewhere that has Sharia law in place already?  They sound very unhappy!  I am fairly sure that Britian would be very happy to arrange their boat trip to the Sharia loving country of their choice!

     

     

     For free!

    4077.       libralady
    5152 posts
     16 Oct 2009 Fri 06:45 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    A RADICAL Muslim group sparked outrage last night as it launched a massive campaign to impose sharia law on Britain.

     

    The fanatical group Islam4UK has ­announced plans to hold a potentially ­incendiary rally in London later this month. And it is calling for a complete upheaval of the British legal system, its officials and ­legislation. Members have urged Muslims from all over Britain to converge on the capital on October 31 for a procession to demand the full implementation of sharia law. On a website to promote their cause they deride British institutions, showing a mock-up picture of Nelson’s Column surmounted by a minaret. Plans for the demonstration have been ­delivered to the Metropolitan Police and could see up to 5,000 extremists marching to demand the controversial system.

     

    The procession – dubbed March 4 Shari’ah – will start at the House of Commons, which the group’s website describes as the “very place where the lives of millions of people in the UK are changed and it is from here where unjust wars are launched”. The group then intends to march to 10 Downing Street and “call for the removal of the tyrant Gordon Brown from power”. The march will then converge on Trafalgar Square where protesters expect it “will gather even more support from tourists and members of the public, making clear in the heart of London the need for Shari’ah in society”.

     

    The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.

    “On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”

     

    More

     

     What again?  Not the first time and I don´t suppose it will be the last.  Some numpty in our lefty government will no doubt agree sooner or later.

    4078.       alameda
    3499 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 12:51 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     What again?  Not the first time and I don´t suppose it will be the last.  Some numpty in our lefty government will no doubt agree sooner or later.

     

    You crazy?  Unsure    Roll eyes

    4079.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 07:23 am

    and the source is

     

    http://cdn.images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/logo.gif

     

    some christian crusaders

    4080.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 09:52 am

    Now Christians Demand The Ban of Muslim Prayer

     

    Christians Show Islamophobia and Intolerance for Religious Freedom in Opposition to Muslim Day of Prayer

     

    As Kirk Cameron goes around spreading lies about how children aren´t allowed to pray or open Bibles in school, there´s an effort to shut down a day of peaceful, non-political prayer in our nation´s capital.

    Where is the uproar? What has happened to this nation, founded upon the freedom to worship as one pleases?

    Oh. Turns out it´s a bunch of Muslims trying to get together and pray. How dare they!

    About 50,000 people were expected at an event in Washington, D.C. Friday afternoon called "Islam on Capitol Hill." Muslims will participate in Jummah Prayer (also known as Jumu´ah, Jum´ah or Friday Prayer), a traditional weekly gathering at a mosque during which Muslims ask for forgiveness for the previous week´s transgressions. A reading from the Koran is also planned, followed by a reception.

    Warnings from the religious right about this event have been bouncing around the Internet since it was conceived early this year. Yesterday, the American Family Association (AFA) sent out an "action alert" questioning "whether this event is good for America."

    The AFA´s main problem is supposedly that the organizer of the event is a lawyer who has represented people involved with terrorist activities. Now while that might turn a stomach or two, mass murderers and serial rapists are also represented by lawyers, who are charged with providing everyone representation regardless of what public opinion might be. A vocation certainly shouldn´t preclude a person from praying.

    The AFA also objects to several political statements by the man who will be reading from the Koran, Sheik Ahmed Dewidar. The organizers note that Dewidar "stood shoulder to shoulder with U.S. President George W. Bush and UN Secretary General Kofi Anan at Ground Zero as Imam of the Islamic Center in Mid-Manhattan to speak on behalf of the Muslim community to condemn the September 11 attacks" and that he will merely be reading Islamic religious text at the event.

    This clearly Islamophobic post in response to the AFA´s statement clearly equates the religion with Satanic worship (emphasis mine):

    On September 25, 2009 from 4am until 7pm, a National Day of Prayer for the Muslim religion will be held on Capitol Hill, beside the White House. As a Christian, it makes me really wonder where the REAL direction of this country is headed. Well in fact I can clearly see where this nation is headed... into the service of Baal / Allah / Lucifer, what ever name you wish to put on him.

    CNN quotes another Christian "leader" who has some funny ideas about the political significance of the event (emphasis mine):

    "It is important for Christians to understand that Friday’s Muslim prayer initiative is part of a well-defined strategy to Islamize American society and replace the Bible with the Koran, the cross with the Islamic crescent and the church bells with the Athan [the Muslim call to prayer]," said Rev. Canon Julian Dobbs, leader of the Convocation of Anglicans in North America’s Church and Islam Project, in a written statement.

    Doing what they do best, the Annenberg Center´s FactCheck.org took one rambling psycho´s chain e-mail (the writer says the prayer event "should make blood shoot out of your eyes!") and analyzed the specious claims.

    Among other falsities they debunk, Fact Check notes that the event is not secretive and that the mainstream media is not ignoring it. They write that the only connection the event has with Obama is that the organizer was inspired to initiate it by the openness of the president´s inauguration speech. He said "for the first time in my lifetime I heard someone of his stature speaking about Islam and Muslims not in an adversarial sense, but in the sense of being welcome and acknowledging we are integral citizens in the society."

    Isn´t it too bad that these people have to prove him wrong?

    Not only is the Christian right being disingenuous about this issue, they´re also being downright hypocritical. Everything I read from sources condemning the event compared Obama´s supposed support for the Islam on Capitol Hill event with his supposed betrayal of National Prayer Day. Obama has nothing to do with the Muslim event, nor did he do so much as issue a statement about it. The president won´t even be in Washington today. He´s not expected to return from Pittsburgh, where he´s attending the G20 summit, until well after the prayer events have concluded.

    The religious right has been licking fake wounds from National Prayer Day since May. As I noted during the ridiculous uproar over President Obama only issuing a statement (as opposed to attending the Washington event where he wouldn´t be allowed to speak by organizers), National Prayer Day is far from inclusive:

    Reading the task force´s mission statement, one would think Christians invented prayer. It is unabashedly Christian and clearly sets its sights on the seat of power in this country (emphasis mine):

    The National Day of Prayer Task Force´s mission is to communicate with every individual the need for personal repentance and prayer, mobilizing the Christian community to intercede for America and its leadership in the seven centers of power: Government, Military, Media, Business, Education, Church and Family.



    Edited (10/17/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

    4081.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 10:13 am

    Now Christians Demand Christian Rule in Iraq

     

    Christian demonstration in Duhuk calls for self-rule

    October 2, 2008 - 01:29:28

    DUHUK / Aswat al-Iraq: Some 10,000 Christians demonstrated in the northern Iraq city of Duhuk on Thursday demanding a self-rule in their areas and restore an article granting them representation in local councils to the law on provincial elections.
    “The demonstrators will present an official memo to the local authorities in Duhuk province to back their efforts and help them demand the rights of our people,” Jamal Zeno, the chief of the Chaldo-Assyrian Popular Council, told Aswat al-Iraq.
    “The demonstrations will continue and calls to have self-rule for the Chaldeo-Assyrian people in their areas included into the constitution will never stop,” Zeno said.

    4082.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 11:09 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    Now Christians Demand Christian Rule in Iraq

     

    Christian demonstration in Duhuk calls for self-rule

    October 2, 2008 - 01:29:28

    DUHUK / Aswat al-Iraq: Some 10,000 Christians demonstrated in the northern Iraq city of Duhuk on Thursday demanding a self-rule in their areas and restore an article granting them representation in local councils to the law on provincial elections.
    “The demonstrators will present an official memo to the local authorities in Duhuk province to back their efforts and help them demand the rights of our people,” Jamal Zeno, the chief of the Chaldo-Assyrian Popular Council, told Aswat al-Iraq.
    “The demonstrations will continue and calls to have self-rule for the Chaldeo-Assyrian people in their areas included into the constitution will never stop,” Zeno said.

     

     And why not?? If we can build Mosques and Hindu temples etc in the UK why not build churches in a Muslim country? Unsure

    4083.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 11:10 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    and the source is

     

    http://cdn.images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/logo.gif

     

    some christian crusaders

     

     Sits with the right wing homophobic Daily Mail............

    4084.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 11:48 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     And why not?? If we can build Mosques and Hindu temples etc in the UK why not build churches in a Muslim country? Unsure

     

    there are already churches in Iraq libralady. and that`s why you shouldn`t believe anything the christian media says. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    4085.       libralady
    5152 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 11:59 am

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

     

    there are already churches in Iraq libralady. and that`s why you shouldn`t believe anything the christian media says. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     Yes I know, I saw a documentary about a preacher who  feared for his life on a daily basis because of his belief.  He had established a church for the Christian ex pats living there.  I did not say Iraq on purpose, I wrote Muslim countries.......

    4086.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 12:09 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Yes I know, I saw a documentary about a preacher who  feared for his life on a daily basis because of his belief.

     

    yeah , they don`t make documentaries about the mosque attacks in christian countries.

    4087.       _AE_
    677 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 12:12 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Yes I know, I saw a documentary about a preacher who  feared for his life on a daily basis because of his belief.

     

    yeah , they don`t make documentaries about the mosque attacks in christian countries.

     

    Oh thanks - I am always looking for a gap in the market - am off to make my documentary now

     

    4088.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 12:17 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

    Oh thanks - I am always looking for a gap in the market - am off to make my documentary now

     

     

    cool, I`ll get the pop corn ready. Big smile

    4089.       _AE_
    677 posts
     17 Oct 2009 Sat 01:23 pm

    The government says it will appeal against a ruling that US intelligence documents detailing the alleged torture of an ex-UK resident can be released.


    Ethiopian-born Binyam Mohamed, 31, who spent four years in Guantanamo Bay, claims British authorities colluded in his torture while he was in Morocco.


    The UK government, which stopped judges publishing the claims on national security grounds, denies any collusion.



    A US State Department spokesman said it was "not pleased" by the court ruling.


    Any publication of the material will be delayed until an appeal takes place.


    Ex-shadow home secretary David Davis - who first raised the case in the House of Commons - said it was "time for the government to accept the ruling of the court and stop trying to delay proceedings with further futile appeals". Mr Davis added: "The British public have a right to know the judges´ assessment of the extent of complicity of the UK and US Intelligence services in torture, and to determine for themselves why the government has tried for so long to cover up this assessment." (Damn right!).



    What really annoys me is that if this was an article about Turkey, everyone would be screaming that the Turkish government is keeping secrets from the public and spreading propaganda - when it happens in the UK, people just seem to accept that it is in the "interests of national security".  Bollocks...



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8311847.stm



    Edited (10/17/2009) by _AE_
    Edited (10/17/2009) by _AE_

    4090.       alameda
    3499 posts
     18 Oct 2009 Sun 08:56 pm

    Musical Stairs

    4091.       ally81
    461 posts
     21 Oct 2009 Wed 09:56 pm

    WELCOME HOME SHARON, AND GOOD WILL TO HILDA KAWUKI, AFTER THEIR ORDEAL MAY THEY FIND HAPPINESS AT HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES

     

    Monday October 19 2009

    The release from captivity of Irish aid worker, Sharon Commins, and her Ugandan colleague, Hilda Kawuki, was a heartwarming end to a harrowing event.

    The joy of their families will be shared by the entire country when they are reunited today after an ordeal lasting 106 days.

    A similar outcome is to be hoped for in the case of Fr Michael Sinnott, abducted in the Philippines eight days ago. The experience of Ms Commins and Ms Kawuki is neither the first nor the last time aid workers will find themselves placed in danger as they try to cater for the humanitarian needs of the people in the most troubled regions on the planet.

    The work of Irish aid agencies in the war-ravaged Darfur region of Sudan continues a fine tradition of Irish people -- clerical and civilian -- helping those most in need.

    No more so than Irish troops on United Nations duty who have served with honour abroad, and the generations of Irish aid workers and missionaries who have flown this country´s flag with distinction.

    Irish history provides a context for understanding the trauma of famine and conflict. Moreover, though, the relaxed Irish demeanour means our countrymen and women are sought after as they have the capacity to work with all nationalities. A debt of gratitude is owed to those who have selflessly served in the third-world and developing countries. Ms Commins has done her duty and her bravery will hopefully inspire other young Irish men and women to do similar work, despite the obvious dangers.

    The release of Ms Commins and Ms Kawuki was a triumph for the patience and precision of diplomacy. The role of the Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheal Martin and Department of Foreign Affairs officials, who worked tirelessly to secure her release, is worthy of recognition.

    Fr Sinnott´s safe return to the Columban house in Gatas District of Pagadian City in the Philippines will be equally dependent upon their delicate negotiating prowess. His age and medical condition makes the situation all the more pressing. Yesterday was Mission Sunday, the worldwide day of prayer for the missions when those serving in developing countries are remembered. Fr Sinnott, the 79-year-old priest originally from Clonard in Co Wexford, will have been in the thoughts of many.

    Irish Independent

    4092.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     22 Oct 2009 Thu 03:57 pm

    roswitha is still alive and back with her dumb articles. Neutral

    4093.       _AE_
    677 posts
     22 Oct 2009 Thu 05:02 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    roswitha is still alive and back with her dumb articles. Neutral

     

     That is a matter of opinion I guess - I find many of them interesting... Super cool

    4094.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     22 Oct 2009 Thu 05:10 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

      I find many of them interesting... Super cool

     

    but only when when you`re stoned enough, eh?

    4095.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     22 Oct 2009 Thu 10:05 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

    Musical Stairs

     

     that´s SO cool!

    4096.       Kiara
    145 posts
     25 Oct 2009 Sun 05:16 pm

    Just HOW does a person do this??  This man inhaled a piece of a plastic spoon into his lungs without even realizing it! (Wouldn´t ya feel something like that?)... it´s worth a read!!

    4097.       mhsn supertitiz
    518 posts
     25 Oct 2009 Sun 07:02 pm

    BLOOD MEALS

     

    vietnam - Raw blood cake

    8540 - vietnam - Raw blood cake by loupiote (Old Skool).


    vietnam - Tiết canh (Tiet canh) raw blood soup

    8018 - vietnam - Tiết canh (Tiet canh) is raw blood soup by loupiote (Old Skool).





    and the evil Dobrowski version Puking


    File:Czernina.zupa.jpg

    Czernina, a blood soup from Poland

    4098.       birdy
    245 posts
     25 Oct 2009 Sun 07:09 pm

    Big smile 

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz

    BLOOD MEALS

     

    vietnam - Raw blood cake

    8540 - vietnam - Raw blood cake by loupiote (Old Skool).


    and the evil Dobrowski version Puking


    File:Czernina.zupa.jpg

    Czernina, a blood soup from Poland

     

     Czarna polewka..hihihi

    this soup made of goose blood was given in old times by smart Dąbrowskis girls to all unwanted woers,admirors,lovers...even placed in literature it was,Mickiewicz did a good job promoting this custom in Mister Thaddeus

    <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    on second thought,worth bringing it back as a rite of passage for all who are in favour of Dabrowski criticism and cannot live without any  spitful remark about them.

    Wanna try???<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)On behalf of all Dabrowskis I can assure you we will learn how to cook it

     



    Edited (10/25/2009) by birdy [adding]

    4099.       Hz. Tami (SAV)
    1 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 12:37 am

    supertitiz is goneWhat the hell!

    4100.       alex de souza
    60 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 01:59 am

     

    Quoting Hz. Tami (SAV)

     

     

    your user name made me laugh out loud  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'><img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'><img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'><img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

    4101.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 10:24 am

     

    Quoting Hz. Tami (SAV)

    supertitiz is goneWhat the hell!

     

     Oh No Supertitiz where are you????? Unsure 

    4102.       _AE_
    677 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 11:08 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Oh No Supertitiz where are you????? Unsure 

     

     Oh nooooooooooooo not Tami!

    We need his acid to neutralise the alkaline here!!

    4103.       ReyhanL
    1961 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 05:24 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Oh nooooooooooooo not Tami!

    We need his acid to neutralise the alkaline here!!

     

     As far as i know..alkaline neutralise the acid...

    4104.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 08:05 pm

    Sick  - I really hate having to see that blood cake every time I scroll down this thread

    4105.       ReyhanL
    1961 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 09:34 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Sick  - I really hate having to see that blood cake every time I scroll down this thread

     

    Just deleat the post...i hate it too and Ý think has nothing to do with Turkey or turkish language.

    4106.       _AE_
    677 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 09:36 pm

     

    Quoting ReyhanL

     

     

    Just deleat the post...i hate it too and Ý think has nothing to do with Turkey or turkish language.

     

     I dont particularly like it either - but it IS off topic so doesn´t HAVE to have anything to do with Turkey or Turkish language!You crazy?

    4107.       _AE_
    677 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 09:37 pm

     

    Quoting ReyhanL

     

     

     As far as i know..alkaline neutralise the acid...

     

     Yes it was a subtle twist on words - probably too subtle for you

    4108.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 09:48 pm

     

    Quoting mhsn supertitiz


    File:Czernina.zupa.jpg

    Czernina, a blood soup from Poland

     

    Polish soup in a Dutch bowl! lol lol

    4109.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Oct 2009 Mon 11:25 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Polish soup in a Dutch bowl! lol lol

     

    Repulsive content in a bowl with coarse sounding words

    4110.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 09:36 pm

    Church of Scientology guilty of fraud in France


    Judge cites ‘obsession’ with financial gain as group is fined $600,000











    Image: Eric Roux
    Jacques Brinon / AP

    Eric Roux, legal representative of the Church of Scientology in France, speaks to reporters at a Paris courthouse on Tuesday.


    <[script]>


    <[script]>




    Updated 7:03 a.m. CT, Tues., Oct . 27, 2009
    <[script]>


    PARIS - A Paris court on Tuesday convicted the Church of Scientology of fraud and fined it more than half a million euros — but stopped short of banning the group as requested by prosecutors.


    The group´s French branch immediately announced it would appeal the verdict.


    The court convicted the Church of Scientology´s French office, its library and six of its leaders of fraud. Investigators said the group pressured members into paying large sums of money for questionable financial gain and used "commercial harassment" against recruits.


     


     


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33490266/ns/world_news-world_faith/?GT1=43001



    4111.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 09:46 pm

    Elephant birth

    4112.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 09:58 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Elephant birth

     

     Unbelievable how calm Momma was!

    4113.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 10:01 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Unbelievable how calm Momma was!

     

    It was amazing how she kicked the baby to make her breath, don´t you think? 



    Edited (10/27/2009) by Trudy [typo!]

    4114.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 10:18 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    It was anazing how she kicked the baby to make her breath, don´t you think? 

     

     Thought for sure she would kill him!  Amazing...just amazing!!

    4115.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 10:35 pm

    Turkish-Teacher  -  he´s EVERYWHERE!!!   lol

    4116.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 Oct 2009 Tue 10:55 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Turkish-Teacher  -  he´s EVERYWHERE!!!   lol

     

     Yeah...but now funwithmonkeys is here!  Thank God, the Turks are getting a bit boring!Scared

    4117.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 12:04 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Yeah...but now funwithmonkeys is here!  Thank God, the Turks are getting a bit boring!Scared

     

    OMG I about choked on my water when I saw that name!!!   <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    4118.       hayvanherif
    59 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 12:41 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Elephant birth

     

    disgusting!Puking

    4119.       alameda
    3499 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 01:42 am

     

    Quoting hayvanherif

     

     

    disgusting!Puking

     

    Don´t be silly, it was amazing! The mother elephant displayed so much delicacy and knowledge in the way she used her hoof and trunk to revive the baby. Another thing I noticed is the fact that the baby was in the breech birth position.  I wonder if that´s normal for elephant birth?

    4120.       hayvanherif
    59 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 01:56 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Don´t be silly, it was amazing! The mother elephant displayed so much delicacy and knowledge in the way she used her hoof and trunk to revive the baby. Another thing I noticed is the fact that the baby was in the breech birth position.  I wonder if that´s normal for elephant birth?

     

    well I closed it immediately after seeing the baby coming out with massive amount of bloody liquid. Puking so no idea what you are talking about.Big smile

    4121.       alameda
    3499 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 02:10 am

     

    Quoting hayvanherif

     

     

    well I closed it immediately after seeing the baby coming out with massive amount of bloody liquid. Puking so no idea what you are talking about.Big smile

     

    ....ah...so you are not hyvan at all, but rather a romantic sentimentalist....the more earthy realities of life put you off?

    4122.       hayvanherif
    59 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 02:17 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    ....ah...so you are not hyvan at all, but rather a romantic sentimentalist....the more earthy realities of life put you off?

     

    yes, I also don`t like the reality about what beautiful girls do in bathroom. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) makeup?Unsure

    4123.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 03:04 am

    Absolutely amazing sand artist

     

    http://www.jawbone.tv/featured/2-featured/156-tales-in-the-sand-kseniya-simo#if

    4124.       alameda
    3499 posts
     28 Oct 2009 Wed 06:12 am

     

    Quoting hayvanherif

     

     

    yes, I also don`t like the reality about what beautiful girls do in bathroom. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) makeup?Unsure

     

    What may not seem beautiful to you now, were you not able to perform the functions yourself, would seem the most beautiful and precious thing in the world............

    4125.       _AE_
    677 posts
     31 Oct 2009 Sat 02:26 pm

    I love this, and anything else that gets people thinking about politics:-

     

    http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/leftvright_world.html

    Hawk or dove?  Am proud to be a dove

    4126.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     31 Oct 2009 Sat 02:42 pm

    Speaking of politics then... you MUST see these!!

     

    Don´t Ask Don´t Tell

     

    Dawkins with Colbert

    4127.       _AE_
    677 posts
     31 Oct 2009 Sat 04:14 pm

    Mr Quality arrived...  Alcoholics

    4128.       hayvanherif
    59 posts
     31 Oct 2009 Sat 06:58 pm

    Chinese husband busts his cheating wife and her lover<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    picture taken by the neighbors

     

    http://dosyalar.hurriyet.com.tr/capkin_cin.jpg



    Edited (10/31/2009) by hayvanherif

    4129.       foka
    597 posts
     31 Oct 2009 Sat 09:54 pm

     

    Quoting hayvanherif

    Chinese husband busts his cheating wife and her lover<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

    picture taken by the neighbors

     

    http://dosyalar.hurriyet.com.tr/capkin_cin.jpg

     

     muahahahahahahahahaha <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)...can`t belive !!!!

    4130.       hayvanherif
    59 posts
     31 Oct 2009 Sat 10:03 pm

     

    Quoting foka

     

     

     muahahahahahahahahaha <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)...can`t belive !!!!

     

    there are some lessons to be taken out of it! NinjaSatisfied nod

    4131.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     01 Nov 2009 Sun 03:30 pm

    The Return of TheAenigma?????

     

    4132.       _AE_
    677 posts
     01 Nov 2009 Sun 03:33 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    The Return of TheAenigma?????

     

     

     Yes she is back

    Here´s Aenigma.............

    4133.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     01 Nov 2009 Sun 03:36 pm

     

    Quoting _AE_

     

     

     Yes she is back

    Here´s Aenigma.............

     

    Will there be a duel - or will you go quietly? Roll eyes

    4134.       _AE_
    677 posts
     01 Nov 2009 Sun 03:38 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Will there be a duel - or will you go quietly? Roll eyes

     

     No duel - I forgot her password so waiting for Catwoman

    4135.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 03:15 pm

    The Turkish Class announcements....still leaving some ambiguity

    4136.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 03:26 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    The Turkish Class announcements....still leaving some ambiguity

     

    Please point out the ambiguity

    4137.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 03:32 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Please point out the ambiguity

     

     The ambiguity is that there are no set rules (again) but instead what is not acceptable is determined by the views of the mods!!!

     

    I also note that this is "not up for discussion" so did not actually except you to take an interest or reply

     



    Edited (11/2/2009) by TheAenigma

    4138.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 03:45 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     

    I also note that this is "not up for discussion" so did not actually except you to take an interest or reply

     

     

    Well - I said you were welcome to discuss it in a pm - and I have sent you one

    4139.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 03:55 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Well - I said you were welcome to discuss it in a pm - and I have sent you one

     

     Ouh Sorry!  i thought it was your usual spam and deleted it

    4140.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 06:28 pm

    I always miss the most exciting TC events!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

    4141.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 06:49 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    I always miss the most exciting TC events!  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

     

     That is because you are either drunk or sleeping it off ! lol

    4142.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 07:24 pm

    _AE_ returning as TheAenigma Alcoholics

    4143.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 07:29 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    _AE_ returning as TheAenigma Alcoholics

     

     Here´s Johnny!

    4144.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 07:47 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    _AE_ returning as TheAenigma Alcoholics

     

     Evil Brit....she probably had to give catwoman a catnip plant to bribe her!  I will get you

    4145.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 07:49 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Evil Brit....she probably had to give catwoman a catnip plant to bribe her!  I will get you

     

     Well what else could I do?  She wasn´t accepting gifts for her pathetic farm

    4146.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Evil Brit....she probably had to give catwoman a catnip plant to bribe her!  I will get you

     

    I don´t think so, she´s more likely remembered her old password. I can´t understand how could one forget the 1-2-3-4-5 combination...

    4147.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 07:55 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    I don´t think so, she´s more likely remembered her old password. I can´t understand how could one forget the 1-2-3-4-5 combination...

     

     No actually TheAenigma had been deleted - I had to fork out a fortune in catnip plants to get her back from Kitty

    4148.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:00 pm

    The continuing saga of the "locked up dudu"

    I am DYING to ask what he is in for?  Anyone had the guts to ask yet?

    4149.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     02 Nov 2009 Mon 09:06 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    The continuing saga of the "locked up dudu"

    I am DYING to ask what he is in for?  Anyone had the guts to ask yet?

     

     Please point me to the thread.....I will do your evil bidding!!

    4150.       libralady
    5152 posts
     03 Nov 2009 Tue 09:05 pm

    Ever had a bad day at work?  Spare a thought for this guy.....

     

    http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/6335921 

    4151.       alameda
    3499 posts
     04 Nov 2009 Wed 12:14 am

     

    Quoting libralady

    Ever had a bad day at work?  Spare a thought for this guy.....

     

    http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/6335921 

     

    Ewww.....do you know how he is? I would think a situation like that would be life threatening.

    4152.       alameda
    3499 posts
     04 Nov 2009 Wed 05:37 am

    Convicted rapist charged with murder after multiple female bodies found in his home. 

     

    What the????

     

    "The neighbor of the man, who was arrested Saturday night after the bodies were found, said the police had done little, despite the calls.

    Fawcett Bess, 57, the owner of Bess Chicken and Pizza, across the street from the house, said that about two weeks ago, he found the man, Anthony Sowell, in the bushes alongside Mr. Sowell’s house naked and standing over a woman who was bloodied, beaten and also naked. Mr. Bess called 911, he said, and an ambulance soon took the woman away. But the police showed up two hours later and never interviewed him, he said.

    “Nobody did anything because she is a girl walking around the streets,” Mr. Bess said. He said he did not know what had happened to the woman, or if the police had followed up on the matter.

    Mr. Bess said that a month earlier, he had been approached by another woman who showed him bruises and blood on her neck that she claimed were from an attack by Mr. Sowell. The woman told Mr. Bess that the police had taken a report but appeared to do little investigating, he said.

    “If people had come to tell us about this guy’s history, then maybe we would have paid more attention,” he said.

    The claims were supported by police records that indicate Mr. Sowell was accused by one woman of choking and raping her in his house on Sept. 22. It was after this accusation that the police decided to conduct the search in which they found the decaying bodies. Police records indicate it took several weeks to assign an officer to the case and to obtain a search warrant.

    Police records also show that on Dec. 8, 2008, another woman filed a report accusing Mr. Sowell of stopping her in front of his house and forcing her to the back door, where he punched, choked and tried to rape her."

     

     



    Edited (11/4/2009) by alameda [add link]

    4153.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     04 Nov 2009 Wed 05:47 am

     

    Quoting alameda

    “Nobody did anything because she is a girl walking around the streets,” Mr. Bess said. He said he did not know what had happened to the woman, or if the police had followed up on the matter.

    Mr. Bess said that a month earlier, he had been approached by another woman who showed him bruises and blood on her neck that she claimed were from an attack by Mr. Sowell. The woman told Mr. Bess that the police had taken a report but appeared to do little investigating, he said.

    “If people had come to tell us about this guy’s history, then maybe we would have paid more attention,” he said.

    The claims were supported by police records that indicate Mr. Sowell was accused by one woman of choking and raping her in his house on Sept. 22. It was after this accusation that the police decided to conduct the search in which they found the decaying bodies. Police records indicate it took several weeks to assign an officer to the case and to obtain a search warrant.

    Police records also show that on Dec. 8, 2008, another woman filed a report accusing Mr. Sowell of stopping her in front of his house and forcing her to the back door, where he punched, choked and tried to rape her."

     

    This is so sickening that it´s hard to even think about it. Puking And there you go -- sexism of the system, women-hating and sexual violence that goes unpunished forever -- at its best -- in this self proclaimed most civilized society! I am at a loss for words what it takes to become this sort of a monster.. Scared

    4154.       alameda
    3499 posts
     04 Nov 2009 Wed 06:06 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    This is so sickening that it´s hard to even think about it. Puking And there you go -- sexism of the system, women-hating and sexual violence that goes unpunished forever -- at its best -- in this self proclaimed most civilized society! I am at a loss for words what it takes to become this sort of a monster.. Scared

     

    True, but sticking your head in the sand and pretending won´t help.....The thing that shocks and sickens me the most, is the fact they had multiple warnings about him, but did nothing!!! What does it take to get attention when women are being abused?



    Edited (11/4/2009) by alameda [sp add]

    4155.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     04 Nov 2009 Wed 06:42 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    True, but sticking your head in the sand and pretending won´t help.....The thing that shocks and sickens me the most, is the fact they had multiple warnings about him, but did nothing!!! What does it take to get attention when women are being abused?

     

    Yes, absolutely, and the answer is that we live in a sexist society, where women´s lives are not equally important as men´s lives. Women are after all just sex objects, therefore, not equal humans.

     

    Anthony Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender who lives in the home, was charged Tuesday with five counts of aggravated murder, as well as rape, felonious assault and kidnapping.

    Cleveland police stopped searching for victims for the night and planned to continue on Wednesday. They have extended their efforts to boarded-up homes in the neighborhood where residents complained for years of a stench that one even said "smelled like a dead body."

    Some in the community want an investigation into why it took so long to trace the grisly source.

    "What happened from there, we don´t know," he said. "It was no secret that there was a foul odor. We don´t want to point fingers, but clearly something could have been done differently."

    Reed said he and other community leaders want an investigation into whether police and health inspectors missed signs that could have tipped them off to the bodies.

    Reed said he can´t imagine how police officers and sheriff´s deputies could have missed the smell. His office records show that he called the health department in 2007 after a resident told him about an odor that "smelled like a dead body," he said.

     

    It is easy to look at this and think that this was just a very sick man and an exception.. However, the reality is that violence against women happens at alarming rates every minute and nothing is being done about it..

    4156.       libralady
    5152 posts
     04 Nov 2009 Wed 09:38 pm

    http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=18483

     

    How about this for cranky????

     

    A jury decided the fate of a murderer in  Texas by consulting the Bible.  I thought a Jury was supposed to decided the verdict on the evidence..... so how does an athiest/muslim/ Hindu/Buddist/Pasterfarian etc fare ??

     

    What a farce........

    4157.       alameda
    3499 posts
     05 Nov 2009 Thu 03:01 am

     

    Quoting libralady

    http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=18483

     

    How about this for cranky????

     

    A jury decided the fate of a murderer in  Texas by consulting the Bible.  I thought a Jury was supposed to decided the verdict on the evidence..... so how does an athiest/muslim/ Hindu/Buddist/Pasterfarian etc fare ??

     

    What a farce........

     

    Did you call, send an email....?........it does help

     

    "Thirty-two-year-old Khristian Oliver is set to be executed at 6pm Texas time (12 midnight GMT) in the Huntsville prison in Texas tomorrow. In Texas the Board of Pardons and Paroles has the power to recommend that the governor commute a death sentence, which it has not so far done. However, the state governor Rick Perry can still issue a stay of execution (and request that the paroles board reconsider its decision if it is a negative one), and Amnesty has issued an ´urgent action´ appeal (www.amnesty.org.uk/deathpenalty) and its supporters are calling on Governor Perry to intervene. "

    4158.       alameda
    3499 posts
     05 Nov 2009 Thu 04:00 am

    It isn´t just women. In this particular case the victims were none white females.

    The list could go on and on, John Wayne Gacy.....note all his victims were male, most only boys.

    Actually, it´s amazing the amount of differences there are among serial killers.....

     

    "Psychosis is rarely noted among serial killers. The predominant psychiatric diagnosis noted in the group tends toward the psychopathic, meaning they suffer from traits within a specific cluster of dysfunctional personality characteristics, those most commonly associated with Antisocial Personality Disorder or Dissocial personality disorder.[8][9] Psychopaths lack empathy and guilt, are egocentric and impulsive, and do not conform to social, moral and legal norms. Psychopaths often follow a distinct set of rules which they have created for themselves rather than following social norms set in place by society. They may appear to be quite normal and often even charming, a state of adaptation that psychiatrist Hervey Cleckley named the "mask of sanity"."

     

    I think the reason "we" allow it to go on uncontested is because most of us are in various stages of a state of  denial, as well as just plain not wanting to get involved.  Nothing happens without action, and action requires time and energy.  "We" are too busy to get involved.....

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    It is easy to look at this and think that this was just a very sick man and an exception.. However, the reality is that violence against women happens at alarming rates every minute and nothing is being done about it..

     

     



    Edited (11/5/2009) by alameda [sp]

    4159.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     05 Nov 2009 Thu 07:31 pm

    Quote:

    It is easy to look at this and think that this was just a very sick man and an exception.. However, the reality is that violence against women happens at alarming rates every minute and nothing is being done about it..

     

    If you have ever watched "Issues with Jane" on CNN or "Nancy Grace"...you will see that crime against women in this country is on arise.  You can hear it on the news, radio etc...recently the 10 women they found near Cleveland.  Apparently, it was man who was convicted of rape and just released from prison.  They believe some of these bodies were in the house for years...so sad. 

     

    Can a women go star gazing alone?  Can she walk her dog by herself at night?  Many other things men can still feel comfortable doing, but us women on the other hand we don´t.

    4160.       alameda
    3499 posts
     05 Nov 2009 Thu 08:58 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

    If you have ever watched "Issues with Jane" on CNN or "Nancy Grace"...you will see that crime against women in this country is on arise.  You can hear it on the news, radio etc...recently the 10 women they found near Cleveland.  Apparently, it was man who was convicted of rape and just released from prison.  They believe some of these bodies were in the house for years...so sad. 

     

    Can a women go star gazing alone?  Can she walk her dog by herself at night?  Many other things men can still feel comfortable doing, but us women on the other hand we don´t.

     

    Actually the man was released a few years ago.  As I mentioned before, it´s not just women, it´s stronger over weaker.  It most often is easy for a male to overtake a female, as most males have the strength to subdue most females. (of course there are some Amazons like Daydreamer who no man could subdue...but that is another matter)    Females have to rely on their wit, rather than brawn.  Rule number one is be aware of your surroundings and access your vulnerability. 

     

    I think we get hung up on what is right, and forget about the "real" world.  It´s unfortunate, most get away with what they can, depending on what they want and the perception of what is possible.

    4161.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     05 Nov 2009 Thu 09:51 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Actually the man was released a few years ago.  As I mentioned before, it´s not just women, it´s stronger over weaker.  It most often is easy for a male to overtake a female, as most males have the strength to subdue most females. (of course there are some Amazons like Daydreamer who no man could subdue...but that is another matter)    Females have to rely on their wit, rather than brawn.  Rule number one is be aware of your surroundings and access your vulnerability. 

     

    I think we get hung up on what is right, and forget about the "real" world.  It´s unfortunate, most get away with what they can, depending on what they want and the perception of what is possible.

     

     They believe some of the bodies had been there for years, shortly after he was released from prison.  Why in the world do we release these rapists?  It has been proven they can´t be reformed...Same thing with sexual predators.  All of these children who go missing and found dead are usually victims of men.  And when you do hear it´s a women...for some reason it makes even more comprehensable..

     

    I have had so many incidents where I have feared for my safety.  Men falling me in cars to my front door, a man breaking into my house and me waking up with him sitting on my bed.  I now keep a baseball bat in my car and a knife under my mattress.  We should not have to live in fear!

    4162.       alameda
    3499 posts
     05 Nov 2009 Thu 10:54 pm

    OMG....teaschip! This is horrible....get yourself to a martial arts class ASAP! I would suggest something like Aikido, (which is what I´ve been involved in for years) Judo, Jujitsu are also good for women. They are defensive.  You do go over what is called katas over and over again, but the most important thing they teach is a way to think.  It is taught that the attack happens in the mind of the  attacker first, before it´s manifested in the physical. You are supposed to feel the attack before it happens. Keeping a knife or baseball bat handy without training is not much use. The attacker could end up using them against you.

     

    The best strategy is to keep out of reach......learn to duck.....be aware of your surroundings.

     

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     They believe some of the bodies had been there for years, shortly after he was released from prison.  Why in the world do we release these rapists?  It has been proven they can´t be reformed...Same thing with sexual predators.  All of these children who go missing and found dead are usually victims of men.  And when you do hear it´s a women...for some reason it makes even more comprehensable..

     

    I have had so many incidents where I have feared for my safety.  Men falling me in cars to my front door, a man breaking into my house and me waking up with him sitting on my bed.  I now keep a baseball bat in my car and a knife under my mattress.  We should not have to live in fear!

     

     

    4163.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 01:03 am

    Teas - that´s awful! A guy getting into your bedroom? What did you do? You´re lucky nothing happened...

     

    Much as I like the idea of working out and learning new things at the same time, I don´t think anything can grant you safety. Sure, it´s better to increase your chances and here Aikido, Judo or Taekwondo are of great help, but still it´s a matter of luck. You either are in the wrong place at the wrong time or not.

     

    A friend of mine, who had national successes in Judo, was attacked in a park as she was going back home from a training. Ok, so she did break one nose and a few ribs, but she´d stand no chance alone against 4 guys. Luckily, her coach saw the situation and helped her out. Otherwise it might have ended in a tragedy.

     

    Alameda, thanks for having such high expectations of me but I don´t think I´d last long in a one-to-one confrontation, I´m more of a talker, my big gab has scared a few people away. Or maybe it was my being self-assured? The thing is, after being attacked once, I learnt that I stand no chance in physical fight so I decided to act as if I could protect myself. So far it´s been working, but you never know what awaits you round the corner

    4164.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 01:22 am

     

    Quoting alameda

    I think we get hung up on what is right, and forget about the "real" world.  It´s unfortunate, most get away with what they can, depending on what they want and the perception of what is possible.

     

    That is such an insulting way to think. Insulting for all the victims. What was "real" so many years ago is not necessarily "real" now, because something was done about it, and because there were people who fought for justice, even at the cost of their lives. There was a great article in the lastest Bitch magazine: "What if we did as much to prevent rape as we do to prevent H1N1?"  Yeah, if we did care about the lives of women, there would be much less rape out there, much less porn, and less of sexy scenes in mainstream movies where women are violated.

     

    The CDC reported just over 43,000 cases of H1N1 between April and July of this year and estimates that it will affect a million people, or 0.3% of the total population of the United States. Compare this to the 2.5% of women and 0.9% of men who reported being raped or sexually assaulted in the past year (most victims don´t report). The most recent statistics about rape available from the CDC are from last year. Swine flu? Last week.

    4165.       alameda
    3499 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 01:28 am

    Yes, one never knows until an actual "event" happens.  I had a friend who was a black belt in Karate....who ended up being beaten up by her boyfriend.  In my friends case, she had already surrendered to the man....The problem with things like Karate is if you use them, you can be charged with the use of a deadly weapon.  I would have a hard time actually hitting anyone.......in a fight or flight situation....I opt for the latter.....

     

    The object of an art like Aikido is to never have to use any of the actual physical technique, at least that is how I was taught.  As I said, the main lesson is to feel an attack before it happens, and if you don´t do that, at least stay out of the way and out of reach. We practiced against 6 opponents at once. That is, we practiced being attacked by 6 different attackers at once. 

     

    Yes, a loud mouth helps a lot.  There is nothing quite so unnerving as a loud and piercing scream.....and I too am curious....what did Teaschip do?

     

     

     

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    ...........Alameda, thanks for having such high expectations of me but I don´t think I´d last long in a one-to-one confrontation, I´m more of a talker, my big gab has scared a few people away. Or maybe it was my being self-assured? The thing is, after being attacked once, I learnt that I stand no chance in physical fight so I decided to act as if I could protect myself. So far it´s been working, but you never know what awaits you round the corner

     

     

    4166.       alameda
    3499 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 01:54 am

    Well you do what you want, as for me, I opt for what works....NOW...and of course a lot more work to prevent rape needs to be done....that is what I´m trying to do.  Putting your head in the sand and pretending there are no sick perverts out there does not help. It should be unthinkable, but obviously, it is thinkable and being done....what is it they have found....somewhere in America a woman is being raped every two minutes"

     

    The reality of the situation is there are way too many very very sick people out there.  They don´t have neon signs on them telling us they are sick. I´m tired of reading about poor girls who naively trusted and were violated. No it should not happen, but it does....over and over and over and over and over................just last week a 15 year old girl was gang raped at a homecoming dance at her highschool..........while others walked by and did NOTHING.....

     

    I am opposed to the objectification of women as objects....things to be acted upon....but the reality is that attitude still exists and horrid actions still happen.............better safe than sorry.....once the line is crossed....one can´t get back.........and I certainly agree with you regarding care about women´s lives....but I think we should care for all lives........not just womens.  A man who is able to perpetuate violence against women is sick too and needs help.  He is like a carrier of a virus who spreads the disease..........if he were inoculated wouldn´t it be better?

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That is such an insulting way to think. Insulting for all the victims. What was "real" so many years ago is not necessarily "real" now, because something was done about it, and because there were people who fought for justice, even at the cost of their lives. There was a great article in the lastest Bitch magazine: "What if we did as much to prevent rape as we do to prevent H1N1?"  Yeah, if we did care about the lives of women, there would be much less rape out there, much less porn, and less of sexy scenes in mainstream movies where women are violated.

     

     



    Edited (11/6/2009) by alameda [edit and add]

    4167.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 02:07 am

    I did not say that we shouldn´t be careful. I´m just saying that we should all be outraged at what is "real" NOW.

    4168.       alameda
    3499 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 02:09 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    I did not say that we shouldn´t be careful. I´m just saying that we should all be outraged at what is "real" NOW.

     

    Agreed.....Flowers

    4169.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 02:38 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Agreed.....Flowers

     

    I´m glad..

    4170.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 01:24 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I´m glad..

     

     Glad for you both!

    4171.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Nov 2009 Fri 02:49 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    Glad for you both!

     

    Aww... that is so sweet!! lol

    4172.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Nov 2009 Thu 10:11 pm

    Thessaloniki, Greece - An anarchist group has claimed responsibility for two small bomb attacks on sex shops over the past week in Greece´s northern port city of Thessaloniki that caused no injuries.

    A group of self-identified anarchists said the blasts were aimed at drawing attention to the sex industry´s role in capitalist power structures. It posted the claim online on Thursday.

    Greek anarchists frequently target symbols of wealth and state power in overnight arson attacks, but this is the first known case of an attack on sex shops.

     

    Source

     

    What a way to protest.....

    4173.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 Nov 2009 Thu 10:20 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Thessaloniki, Greece - An anarchist group has claimed responsibility for two small bomb attacks on sex shops over the past week in Greece´s northern port city of Thessaloniki that caused no injuries.

    A group of self-identified anarchists said the blasts were aimed at drawing attention to the sex industry´s role in capitalist power structures. It posted the claim online on Thursday.

    Greek anarchists frequently target symbols of wealth and state power in overnight arson attacks, but this is the first known case of an attack on sex shops.

     

    Source

     

    What a way to protest.....

     Heavens no.....not the sex shops!!!

     

    4174.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 12:33 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Thessaloniki, Greece - An anarchist group has claimed responsibility for two small bomb attacks on sex shops over the past week in Greece´s northern port city of Thessaloniki that caused no injuries.

    A group of self-identified anarchists said the blasts were aimed at drawing attention to the sex industry´s role in capitalist power structures. It posted the claim online on Thursday.

    Greek anarchists frequently target symbols of wealth and state power in overnight arson attacks, but this is the first known case of an attack on sex shops.

     

    Source

     

    What a way to protest.....

     

    Yeyyyyyyyy!!!!!!! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics} Glad to know that there are still decent people out there!!

    4175.       Deli_kizin
    6376 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 12:35 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Yeyyyyyyyy!!!!!!! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics} Glad to know that there are still decent people out there!!

     

     Bombs. Decent people. 

     

     

    But eyy cheers, just opening my Carlsberg! Not quite done studying but a well-deserved break {#emotions_dlg.super_cool} (sunglasses should be studying-glasses though )

    4176.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 12:52 am

     

    Quoting Deli_kizin

     

     

     Bombs. Decent people. 

     

     

    But eyy cheers, just opening my Carlsberg! Not quite done studying but a well-deserved break {#emotions_dlg.super_cool} (sunglasses should be studying-glasses though )

     

    hahah, well... nobody was hurt!!! that is why this was morally justified in my opinion.

    4177.       Deli_kizin
    6376 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 12:54 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    hahah, well... nobody was hurt!!! that is why this was morally justified in my opinion.

     

     That´s what you say when we argue too But you know, words can hurt too!

    4178.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 12:56 am

     

    Quoting Deli_kizin

     

     

     That´s what you say when we argue too But you know, words can hurt too!

     

    Yes, but the damage that the sex industry has on people is much higher then whatever property damage was done there.

    4179.       Deli_kizin
    6376 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 01:00 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Yes, but the damage that the sex industry has on people is much higher then whatever property damage was done there.

     

     I was referring to our marital arguments

     

    Obviously I am not that pink that I don´t see your argument in this case

    4180.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 01:03 am

     

    Quoting Deli_kizin

     

     I was referring to our marital arguments

     

    Well dear, sometimes you did bring out the dark side in me. I don´t regret anything though. lol

    4181.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 12:20 pm

    OMGGGG!

     

     

     

    Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing dozens of people in order to sell their fat and tissue for cosmetic uses in Europe.

    The gang allegedly targeted people on remote roads, luring them with fake job offers before extracting their fat to sell it for $15,000 (£9,000 ) a litre.

    Other suspected gang members, including two Italian nationals, remain at large.

    Police said the gang could be behind the disappearances of up to 60 people in the region.

    At a news conference in the capital, police showed reporters two bottles containing human body fat and images of one of the alleged victims.

    One of the alleged killings is reported to have taken place in mid-September, with the person´s body tissue removed for sale.

    Cmdr Angel Toledo told Reuters some of the suspects had "declared and stated how they murdered people with the aim being to extract their fat in rudimentary labs and sell it".

    Police said they suspect the fat was sold to cosmetics and pharmaceutical companies in Europe, but have not confirmed any such connection.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8369674.stm

     



    Edited (11/20/2009) by TheAenigma

    4182.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 01:28 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    hahah, well... nobody was hurt!!! that is why this was morally justified in my opinion.

     

    Unless it was meant to be funny, it´s a dangerous way of thinking. I don´t think blowing private property is a solution to any problem. What if somebody finds it morally justified to blow up your house while you´re out only because he or she finds it offensive that you criticise Islam?

     

    No, violence, bombs and vandalism are not justified means of persuasion.

    4183.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 01:29 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    OMGGGG!

     

     

     

    Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing dozens of people in order to sell their fat and tissue for cosmetic uses in Europe.

     

     

    Huh? That´s scary alright, like a science fiction horror {#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4184.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 02:21 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    OMGGGG!

     

     

     

    Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing dozens of people in order to sell their fat and tissue for cosmetic uses in Europe.  

     

     Maybe they inspired from this movie...

    4185.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 06:05 pm

    OMG...this is hideous!!! {#emotions_dlg.rant}

     

    I´m afraid the commerce in human body parts has gotten out of control.  Best to know your manufacturers...I always check skin deep for products before purchase.

     

    Human body parts are used more than many realize....for instance in dental work.  Michael Mastromarino, a  former oral surgeon was a lead in the plunder of Alistair Cooke´s body.

     

    This is something I would not have thought of before, but recently when I had root canals and crowns made, I questioned my dentist on just what was being done and with what. FYI....The human bone is used  in dental implants.

     

    There was a recent CSI show that featured a gang that kidnapped young women to be used in prostitution. If the young lady was too much trouble, her organs were harvested.

     

    Something like this certainly cause one to think, doesn´t it?..........what have we become?

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking} 

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    OMGGGG!

     

    Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing dozens of people in order to sell their fat and tissue for cosmetic uses in Europe.

     



    Edited (11/20/2009) by alameda [fix]
    Edited (11/20/2009) by alameda [spelling]

    4186.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 06:15 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

    This is something I would not have thought of before, but recently when I had root canals and crowns made, I questioned my dentist on just what was being done and with what. FYI....The human bone is used  in dental implants.

     

     

     

     

     

     My uncle makes dental implants and I never heard him talk about using bones... is this a thing that differs per country, or some kind of special implant?

    4187.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 06:41 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     My uncle makes dental implants and I never heard him talk about using bones... is this a thing that differs per country, or some kind of special implant?

     

    Barba-Mama....I doubt if talking about the gory and lurid details of doing dental implants is exactly the type of conversation most uncles would have with their nieces....Here, more than you probably ever wanted to know....Understanding Dental Implants

     

    from my previous post, bone harvesting is not always done in an ethical manner.

     

    FYI  Transplantable organs and tissues

     

    The Billion-Dollar Body Parts Industry: Medical Research alongside Greed and Corruption

     

     

     

     



    Edited (11/20/2009) by alameda [wrong gory...Edward orey]
    Edited (11/20/2009) by alameda [edit]

    4188.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 07:43 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Unless it was meant to be funny, it´s a dangerous way of thinking. I don´t think blowing private property is a solution to any problem. What if somebody finds it morally justified to blow up your house while you´re out only because he or she finds it offensive that you criticise Islam?

     

    No, violence, bombs and vandalism are not justified means of persuasion.

     

    You are right, although I disagree that these two situations are equivalent. Commercial property and home property are different, I would not support this if the incident was that someone destroyed a porn shop owner´s home.

    You are also right that this is not a good form of persuasion, in fact this is not persuasion whatsoever, and it really is not changing the global situation. I just think that destroying places related to sex industry is a morally good thing. Women´s sexuality should never be available for purchase in a civil, just society.

    4189.       alameda
    3499 posts
     20 Nov 2009 Fri 10:31 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     ......I just think that destroying places related to sex industry is a morally good thing. Women´s sexuality should never be available for purchase in a civil, just society.

     

    I agree with Daydreamer...."No, violence, bombs and vandalism are not justified means of persuasion."............in either commercial or private property.  I would add they are also not an effective method of persuasion. ...........as for sexuality....of course nobody, male or female should be forced or coerced into the sale of their sexuality.

     

    I would also add that the means to sustain oneself in a dignified and honorable manner should be available to all.

    4190.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 12:36 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I just think that destroying places related to sex industry is a morally good thing. Women´s sexuality should never be available for purchase in a civil, just society.

     

    Morality is relative, what we can base on is the law. Would planting a bomb under abortion clinic or a fur shop be morally justified too? Or destroying a coffee shop in The Netherlands? Of course law is not perfect but it must be a point of reference. If you don´t like the law then do something to change it without breaking it. We live in democratic societies, it´s not saudi lol

     

    And it´s not only the female sexuality that´s available to purchase, there usually are a few men in porn films. Not to mention gay porn I don´t think government should ban legal pornography but, rather, they should do their best to stop the hideous human trafficking and forcing people into prostitution

    4191.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 12:51 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    Morality is relative, what we can base on is the law. Would planting a bomb under abortion clinic or a fur shop be morally justified too? Or destroying a coffee shop in The Netherlands? Of course law is not perfect but it must be a point of reference. If you don´t like the law then do something to change it without breaking it. We live in democratic societies, it´s not saudi lol

     

    And it´s not only the female sexuality that´s available to purchase, there usually are a few men in porn films. Not to mention gay porn I don´t think government should ban legal pornography but, rather, they should do their best to stop the hideous human trafficking and forcing people into prostitution

     

    Morality is supposed to be based on human suffering, I´d challenge the religious fanatics to check the facts on who is suffering when abortion is banned. Same when it comes to the sex industry, and to remind you -- it´s not the men in it or outside of it.

     

    Yeah, we have to base our system of punishment on the law, and I didn´t say that the people who set those bombs should not be punished. However, ideally, all those hideous shops should be destroyed.



    Edited (11/21/2009) by catwoman

    4192.       libralady
    5152 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 12:58 am

    Lots of people wearing ridiculous outfits and doing crazy things in the aid of Children in Need............ {#emotions_dlg.lol} including me who went to work dressed as a "rock chick" but narrowly escaped the freezing cold jelly bath {#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4193.       bydand
    755 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 01:13 am

     

    Quoting libralady

    Lots of people wearing ridiculous outfits and doing crazy things in the aid of Children in Need............ {#emotions_dlg.lol} including me who went to work dressed as a "rock chick" but narrowly escaped the freezing cold jelly bath {#emotions_dlg.scared}

     

     Any pictures to show us LL? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4194.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 01:45 am

    I also vote for pictures!!

    4195.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 11:04 am

    How to fool a tiger:

     



    Edited (11/21/2009) by Trudy

    4196.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 02:55 pm

    Trudy - muehahhahahahhahaa PMSL

    4197.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 04:24 pm

    Merry Christmas.....

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCG4ojB-jKI

     

     

    4198.       armegon
    1872 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 06:43 pm

    University students who were going to Rize from Erzurum/İspir, were stucked on the Ovit pass because of avalanche. The midibus is under snow for hours and the ones who went to save them got lost too. May God help them...

    4199.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Nov 2009 Sat 07:13 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    University students who were going to Rize from Erzurum/İspir, were stucked on the Ovit pass because of avalanche. The midibus is under snow for hours and the ones who went to save them got lost too. May God help them...

     

    Oh, that is aweful!

    4200.       armegon
    1872 posts
     22 Nov 2009 Sun 04:05 pm

     Good news, they all saved...

    Quoting armegon

    University students who were going to Rize from Erzurum/İspir, were stucked on the Ovit pass because of avalanche. The midibus is under snow for hours and the ones who went to save them got lost too. May God help them...

     

     

    4201.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Nov 2009 Sun 05:14 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     Good news, they all saved...

     

    thank god!!

    4202.       Deli_kizin
    6376 posts
     22 Nov 2009 Sun 09:50 pm

    More of ´what caught my nose today´. I was just wondering how it was possible that the peel of the mandarine I just ate was smelling so profoundly and nice. I realized that, being uncareful, I put half of it over the ash tray and it started burning. Does smell n ice though

    4203.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Nov 2009 Mon 08:23 am

    Stunning view, this owl!

     

    Attack!



    Edited (11/23/2009) by Trudy

    4204.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Nov 2009 Mon 10:24 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Stunning view, this owl!

     

    Attack!

     

     Wow...it´s a bit frightening!!{#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4205.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     24 Nov 2009 Tue 12:56 pm

    This is probably one of the most horrific medical stories I have ever heard of.  This man has been laying down in a hospital bed, presumed to be in a coma, for 23 years - completely unable to communicate that he was conscienous.  A living hell....

     

    A Belgian man who doctors thought was in a coma for 23 years was conscious all along, it has been revealed.

    Medical staff believed Rom Houben had sunk irretrievably into a coma after he was injured in a car crash in 1983.

    The University of Liege doctor who discovered in 2006 that, although Mr Houben was paralysed, his brain was working, said the case was not unique.

    Mr Houben said that at first he felt angry at his powerlessness, but eventually learned to live with it.

    "Other people had an opinion of me," Mr Houben, now 46, told the BBC.

    "I knew what I could do and what I was capable of but other people had a rather pathetic image of me. I had to learn to be patient and now finally we are on an equal footing."

    ´He´s an optimist´

    It was only in 2006 that a scan revealed Mr Houben´s brain was in fact almost entirely functioning.

    He now communicates by using a special keyboard attached to his wheelchair.

    His mother, Fina Houben, told the BBC that she always believed her son could communicate.

    "He is not depressed he is an optimist," she said. "He wants to get out of life what he can."

    The BBC´s Dominic Hughes, in Belgium, says the case raises the issue of how many other people believed to be in comas are actually trapped inside their bodies, desperate to communicate.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8375326.stm

     



    Edited (11/24/2009) by TheAenigma

    4206.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     24 Nov 2009 Tue 01:16 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    This is probably one of the most horrific medical stories I have ever heard of.  This man has been laying down in a hospital bed, presumed to be in a coma, for 23 years - completely unable to communicate that he was conscienous.  A living hell....

     

    A Belgian man who doctors thought was in a coma for 23 years was conscious all along, it has been revealed.

    Medical staff believed Rom Houben had sunk irretrievably into a coma after he was injured in a car crash in 1983.

    The University of Liege doctor who discovered in 2006 that, although Mr Houben was paralysed, his brain was working, said the case was not unique.

    Mr Houben said that at first he felt angry at his powerlessness, but eventually learned to live with it.

    "Other people had an opinion of me," Mr Houben, now 46, told the BBC.

    "I knew what I could do and what I was capable of but other people had a rather pathetic image of me. I had to learn to be patient and now finally we are on an equal footing."

    ´He´s an optimist´ 

    It was only in 2006 that a scan revealed Mr Houben´s brain was in fact almost entirely functioning.

    He now communicates by using a special keyboard attached to his wheelchair.

    His mother, Fina Houben, told the BBC that she always believed her son could communicate.

    "He is not depressed he is an optimist," she said. "He wants to get out of life what he can."

    The BBC´s Dominic Hughes, in Belgium, says the case raises the issue of how many other people believed to be in comas are actually trapped inside their bodies, desperate to communicate.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8375326.stm

     

     

     Actually this news story gives a lot of food for thought.  I have NEVER carried an organ donation card as I am aware that you are not always "dead" when they remove organs.  Brain death has been a legal form of "death" and organs are removed from a patient such as the one above for transplantation.  It is lucky for the Belgian man that his mother did not give permission for the venilator to be switched off.

     

    The following article shows why I never carry an Organ Donation card:-

     

    "Some form of anesthesia is needed to prevent the donor from moving during removal of the organs. The donor’s blood pressure may rise during surgical removal. Similar changes take place during ordinary surgical procedures only if the depth of anesthesia is inadequate. Body movement and a rise in blood pressure are due to the skin incision and surgical procedure if the donor is not anesthetized. Is it not reasonable to consider that the donor may feel pain? In some cases, drugs to paralyze muscle contraction are given to prevent the donor from moving during removal of the organs. Yet, sometimes no anesthesia is administered to the donor. Movement by the donor is distressing to doctors and nurses. Perhaps this is another reason why anesthesia and drugs to paralyze the muscles are usually given."

    4207.       alameda
    3499 posts
     24 Nov 2009 Tue 10:57 pm

    It is one thing f the material is "harvested" in an ethical manner, which does not always happen....I know it seems very nice and generous to donate one´s body parts....but I am against it. 

     

    One big reason is because it commoditizes the human body. It´s enough to have to worry about being mugged for one´s wallet, but when your tendons, skin, sinews, bones and more.become elegible ...for sale, it changes things somewhat...it opens a door that I don´t think should be opened.

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    .......................... Actually this news story gives a lot of food for thought.  I have NEVER carried an organ donation card as I am aware that you are not always "dead" when they remove organs.  Brain death has been a legal form of "death" and organs are removed from a patient such as the one above for transplantation. ...........

     

    4208.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 09:37 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Actually this news story gives a lot of food for thought.  I have NEVER carried an organ donation card as I am aware that you are not always "dead" when they remove organs.  Brain death has been a legal form of "death" and organs are removed from a patient such as the one above for transplantation. 

    I am more than willing to be an organ donor and carry the card.  I would rather someone with a chance at a "real" life move on with theirs, than me live in a vegetative state year after year.........

    4209.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 10:12 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

    I am more than willing to be an organ donor and carry the card.  I would rather someone with a chance at a "real" life move on with theirs, than me live in a vegetative state year after year.........

     

     I agree. And I always wonder, for the people out there who don´t carry a card... Let´s say something happens to you and you need a new liver to live. The doctor says, lucky you! We have a match! If we don´t transplant this liver into your body, you will die in two days, but now you can live! Are you going to say, oh no, don´t give me that liver. I don´t know if it was taken from a man in a coma? Would you choose death?

    4210.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 01:16 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

    Are you going to say, oh no, don´t give me that liver. I don´t know if it was taken from a man in a coma? Would you choose death?

     

     I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".



    Edited (11/25/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (11/25/2009) by TheAenigma

    4211.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 03:03 pm

    Further to the discussion, an interesting article on "locked in" syndrome:-

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8378262.stm

     

    4212.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 05:31 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".

     

     In that case... no liver for you! Can you really be sure, at any time, if somebody shows no reaction to pain stimuli, has no way to interact, and has wide, non-responsive pupils? People who are declared brain-dead could all be locked in like that Belgian man.

    4213.       alameda
    3499 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 05:58 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".

     

    +++ {#emotions_dlg.flowers}  good for you.......I think this is called "walking the walk". 

    4214.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     25 Nov 2009 Wed 11:26 pm

    And I wouldn´t mind having my organs taken if I were in coma for a long time. Pain? So what? I´d rather die than be in a vegetative state. And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.

    4215.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 01:30 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}{#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4216.       alameda
    3499 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 02:23 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    And I wouldn´t mind having my organs taken if I were in coma for a long time. Pain? So what? I´d rather die than be in a vegetative state. And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.

     

    Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children.  However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........and don´t forget they may only be paralyzed....not in a vegetative state....they may be fully conscious, but unable to communicate............and they may very well feel.

     

    read the article Aenigma posted the link to

     

    ´A brain scan finally revealed Houben was conscious

    A Belgian man who doctors thought was in a coma for 23 years was conscious all along, it has been revealed.

    Medical staff believed Rom Houben had sunk irretrievably into a coma after he was injured in a car crash in 1983.

    The University of Liege doctor who discovered in 2006 that, although Mr Houben was paralysed, his brain was working, said the case was not unique.

    Mr Houben said that at first he felt angry at his powerlessness, but eventually learned to live with it´

    4217.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 07:09 am

     

    Quoting alameda

    Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children.  However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........

     

    I hope she was drunk when she said that!! Otherwise, obviously no sort of motherly obsession justifies that..

    4218.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 08:26 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    I am more than willing to be an organ donor and carry the card.  I would rather someone with a chance at a "real" life move on with theirs, than me live in a vegetative state year after year.........

     

    Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor. When I´m dead or in a vegetative coma it´s the only thing I can help others with. Must say I wonder if those who say ´I don´t want it´ really keep saying that when the decision is there. I hope for all of them that time never comes but I doubt they refuse.

    4219.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 02:51 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor. When I´m dead or in a vegetative coma it´s the only thing I can help others with. Must say I wonder if those who say ´I don´t want it´ really keep saying that when the decision is there. I hope for all of them that time never comes but I doubt they refuse.

     

     I think you missed the point.  My family are all aware that when I die they can do what the hell they like with my body - donate whatever organs can help save somebody.  However, if I am in "a coma" they may not donate organs unless they can definiately say I am brain dead.  The point I am making making is mistakes are made in diagnosis of brain death.  People have been operated on to remove organs while conscieous of what is going on and then die. Also, who is to say that someone who is paralised, but able to communicate by computer, should not be allowed to live their life and instead be an organ doner to someone more "worthy"? This is the point I am making, which clearly you missed.

     

    In addition, there is a sinister side to Doner Cards which is taboo and never discussed openly....



    Edited (11/26/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (11/26/2009) by TheAenigma

    4220.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 02:55 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

    Quoting alameda

    Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children.  However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........

     

    I hope she was drunk when she said that!! Otherwise, obviously no sort of motherly obsession justifies that..

     

    I was not drunk. I really believe in what I´m saying. A pararel situation would be if I was to decide whether my child dies or somebody else´s. There´s no way I would chose another person´s child over mine. It´s similar with organ transplants.

    4221.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:27 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I was not drunk. I really believe in what I´m saying. A pararel situation would be if I was to decide whether my child dies or somebody else´s. There´s no way I would chose another person´s child over mine. It´s similar with organ transplants.

     

    Sure, but specifically killing someone for your child is way beyond limits. And if your child grew up to be a decent human being, I don´t think he´d respect you for it. He might even hate the rest of his life, knowing that someone was deprived of it because of him.

    4222.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:30 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Also, who is to say that someone who is paralised, but able to communicate by computer, should not be allowed to live their life and instead be an organ doner to someone more "worthy"?

     

    Isn´t that exactly Steven Hawkins´ life?

    4223.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:37 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Isn´t that exactly Steven Hawkins´ life?

     

     Exactly!!!!!  Are GG and Trudy saying they should die to save someone more worthy?

    4224.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 04:40 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor.

     

    I also give blood and am on the Anthony Nolan Bone Marrow register to donate bone marrow if required.

     

    This is completely BESIDE THE POINT, which is NOT about the ethics of donating body tissue or organs, but is about the dangers of carrying a Doner Card - but I guess you just don´t understand it...{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}



    Edited (11/26/2009) by TheAenigma

    4225.       armegon
    1872 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 05:32 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.

     

    Its better if you give your organ instead of killing someone? Did you also watch John Q last night?{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4226.       armegon
    1872 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 05:35 pm

    An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

    4227.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 07:36 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

     

    What is the problem with people? So what if she even is an atheist, then she´s less worthy of a person and deserves to be executed? {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}



    Edited (11/26/2009) by catwoman

    4228.       alameda
    3499 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 09:48 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...

     

    I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?

    4229.       armegon
    1872 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 10:12 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?

     

    Her name is Nigar Azizmuradi, my mistake sorry ...I hope she would be given sanctuary, it is very cruel to punish anyone because of his/her beliefs. I wondered why they insistently announce her as an atheist since she is a member of a cult. Already realized a Turkish newspaper started a campaign in order not to send her back to Iran, below is the link;

    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/13044967.asp?gid=229

    4230.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Nov 2009 Thu 11:41 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    Sure, but specifically killing someone for your child is way beyond limits. And if your child grew up to be a decent human being, I don´t think he´d respect you for it. He might even hate the rest of his life, knowing that someone was deprived of it because of him.

     

    Offf ya, it´s not like I´m planning to walk the streets wanting to kill other people´s children. I was talking about accepting other people´s organs. I don´t really think if I killed somebody, any hospital would accept his/her organs for transplantation, would it? And, multi talented as I am, performing organ transplant is not what I would be able to do on my own lol I was referring to the situation where I may or may not accept an organ for my child knowing that the donor is brain dead. I sure hope I will never have to make such decision.

     

    As for AE´s question who can decide whether or not a paralysed person can live, I say it is the person himself or herself. I am fond of euthanasia.

    4231.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 02:46 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

    ... I´m planning to walk the streets wanting to kill other people´s children...

     

     

    (couldn´t resist the newspaper style quote

    4232.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 06:48 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

     

     

     Exactly!!!!!  Are GG and Trudy saying they should die to save someone more worthy?

     

     How did you get that out of me saying I would not want to live in a vegetative state?{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    It´s a personal choice.  I don´t want to be fed, and dressed and bathed and by others or to be a burden on the people I love. 

    That is not the quality of life that I want. 

    4233.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 09:21 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    .............I was talking about accepting other people´s organs...........

     

    ..........As for AE´s question who can decide whether or not a paralysed person can live, I say it is the person himself or herself. I am fond of euthanasia.........

     

    One thing that is often missed is the fact that organ recipients need some pretty nasty drugs to prevent their body rejecting the transplant.  I think we imagine a transplant....then all is well and the transplantee goes on and lives a normal life....not so....

     

    Immunosuppresive drugs

     

     

    The problem is when people get to the state of being paralyzed...they can´t express their wishes very well.................so it is often others who make the decision for them.

    Yet another reason to think ahead.

    4234.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 10:26 pm

    I thought most people knew about the drugs you have to take, to prevent organ-rejection...

    Anyway, I think this whole thread is starting to look like an anti-organ transplant thread. Let me make this clear... if something would happen to one of my organs right now, I would gladly take a load of drugs to continue my life. Sure, I would have to adjust some things, but if I can still smile, move around, laugh at jokes, have a job and things like that, I would be a very happy camper. Second, I have an organ-doner card at me at all times. My family knows that if I ever reach a vegitative state, they should pull the plug. They know this even though I´m in my mid twenties. I have seen people in need of donor skin after a massive burn... I have seen somebody in need of donor eye-lenses, basically being blind without them. And a walk around the children´s ward in a hospital almost makes me want to give a kid my lung right there and then.

     

    It´s a story with two sides, but also take into account the odds of stuff like "being trapped into a body." I don´t want to force anybody to be a donor. My brother isn´t, for example. But make an informed decision, and not a decision based on unfounded fears.

    4235.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 11:24 pm

    Alameda, I don´t think anyone here thinks organ transplant is a petty thing. So we all know that you need drugs to make it work, and even then, there are no guarantees. If you´d rather die than have somebody´s liver or heart, fine. It´s your choice. And I´m sure that a person who gets the liver you wouldn´t take, will be glad to be next on the list. I sure would

     

    Informed decision is the key, hence the donor cards or the ones whose name I have forgotten that say "do not resuscitate". Also, your family should know whether you´d rather live as long as possible even if it means having your bodily functions artificially supported, or would rather prefer to be not supported mechanically.

     

    The bottom line is, it should be a matter of preferrence, not general rule or law.

    4236.       libralady
    5152 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 11:25 pm

     

    Quoting bydand

     

     

     Any pictures to show us LL? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

     Sorry not been here for nearly a week, and there is a picture but how much is it worth.................... hahaha!

    4237.       libralady
    5152 posts
     27 Nov 2009 Fri 11:33 pm

    Just been reading the interesting debate and views about donating organs etc above.  I am on the organ donor register, regularly give blood and when I asked about being a bone marrow donor I was told I was too old (There was a upper age limit apparently).

     

    Quite frankly if I was in a state where I was vegitative with no brain stem cell activity then I would be more than happy for anything of any use to go to someone who needs it, so long as it was not a murderer!

     

    I think the guy thought to be in the "living coma" in Belgium was an unusual case, and how sad for him that he was like that for all those years.  How an earth he coped with it is beyond me.

    4238.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     28 Nov 2009 Sat 11:06 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    Her name is Nigar Azizmuradi, my mistake sorry ...I hope she would be given sanctuary, it is very cruel to punish anyone because of his/her beliefs. I wondered why they insistently announce her as an atheist since she is a member of a cult. Already realized a Turkish newspaper started a campaign in order not to send her back to Iran, below is the link;

    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/13044967.asp?gid=229

     

    I couldn´t understand the article.. but did she apply for asylum?

    4239.       alameda
    3499 posts
     28 Nov 2009 Sat 11:42 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Alameda, I don´t think anyone here thinks organ transplant is a petty thing. So we all know that you need drugs to make it work, and even then, there are no guarantees. If you´d rather die than have somebody´s liver or heart, fine. It´s your choice. And I´m sure that a person who gets the liver you wouldn´t take, will be glad to be next on the list. I sure would

     

    Informed decision is the key, hence the donor cards or the ones whose name I have forgotten that say "do not resuscitate". Also, your family should know whether you´d rather live as long as possible even if it means having your bodily functions artificially supported, or would rather prefer to be not supported mechanically.

     

    The bottom line is, it should be a matter of preferrence, not general rule or law.

     

    Daydreamer.....actually I agree 100% with you.....regarding the matter of consent....and that is the issue.  If someone willingly, and with knowledge donates their organs and tissue, G-d bless them. The probem is too many times this is not the case.

     

    How about the people who were coerced out of their organs, or who´s organs were stolen from them?  We know for a fact of the case of Alistair Cooke (I was a fan and listened to his broadcasts every morning), whose tissue was stolen with out permission.  His tissue, being from a cancer victim ,and from a 96 year old was not even legally permissable, but still it was done. It only was an accident that revealed the case......and a whole network of criminals who "harvested", sold and traded in the "tissue".

     

    When so much is at stake, there are those who will do highly unethical and illegal things to profit. There has to be a method to clearly limit illegal and unethical "harvesting". It´s downright goulish and gruesome. {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4240.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 12:05 am

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    When so much is at stake, there are those who will do highly unethical and illegal things to profit. There has to be a method to clearly limit illegal and unethical "harvesting". It´s downright goulish and gruesome. {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    This is trully repulsive, I couldn´t agree more

    4241.       armegon
    1872 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 12:59 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I couldn´t understand the article.. but did she apply for asylum?

     

    Yes, she did, she applied to UN refugee agency, she is now waiting for the decision of Turkish authorities. Turkey has two choices, either she will be deported to another country or will be sent back to Iran...

    4242.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:43 pm

    This story of child abuse within the catholic church in Ireland (ignored, covered up  and dismissed for decades by the Vatican)  confirms the hypocrisy in the catholic church…and in so many religions. 


     


    Just some of the news stories over the past few weeks…


    “Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen has said the cover-up by the Catholic hierarchy in Dublin of child abuse by priests was shocking and disturbing. A report revealed decades of abuse was concealed by the church in Dublin in an attempt to save its reputation.


    It said some senior police officers colluded in the cover-up.


    Mr Cowen said it was a crushing verdict that the good name and standing of the Church as an institution was placed above the basic safety of children. “


     


    In all, 450 other people in the Dublin diocese claim they were abused as children. One hundred and fifty two priests stand accused.


    A fraction have been prosecuted. The latest report is as shocking as the Ryan Report published earlier this year - not just because of the abuse itself, but because it exposes how that abuse was covered up. It examined how allegations of child abuse in the Archdiocese of Dublin against a sample of 46 priests were handled by bishops, including a former cardinal, and state authorities between 1 January 1975 and 30 April 2004. “


     


    The inquiry into sex abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland has disclosed that the Vatican ignored formal requests for information.


    The inquiry asked for details of reports on abuse sent to the Vatican by the Dublin archdiocese in 2006. The Vatican did not reply but told the Irish Foreign Affairs department the request "had not gone through appropriate diplomatic channels.


    The inquiry condemned church leaders for covering-up abuse for decades.”


     


     


     


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8384372.stm


     



    Edited (11/29/2009) by TheAenigma

    4243.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:49 pm

    It´s horrid to read about the scale of child abuse by CC in Ireland. The matter has been given a lot of press here. Too bad it´s that late. It only shows how dangerous it is to give unchallenged trust to any kind of organisation just because most people in the country share the beliefs they advocate. I am disgusted reading about that and hope the priests will serve their time {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4244.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 02:54 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    It´s horrid to read about the scale of child abuse by CC in Ireland. The matter has been given a lot of press here. Too bad it´s that late. It only shows how dangerous it is to give unchallenged trust to any kind of organisation just because most people in the country share the beliefs they advocate. I am disgusted reading about that and hope the priests will serve their time {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    It IS absolutely disgusting, I agree.  Also, remember we are not talking about a small faction of the Catholic Church - this behaviour seems to have been condoned by the Vatican itself for decades.  Those children who complained in the past were made to feel like liars and frauds by the highest people within the catholic church and the police.

     

    I thought this type of upper echelon "paedophile network", common for hundreds of years, had died out.  Let´s hope these sanctimonious, lying, deceitful paedophiles are made an example of, and the Vatican too!  It absolutely makes my blood boil!



    Edited (11/29/2009) by TheAenigma
    Edited (11/29/2009) by TheAenigma

    4245.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:05 pm

    The details in full - over 46 ... FORTY SIX!!! priests of the catholic church in Ireland are involved.  I can´t help thinking that if this story had been about muslims, this forum would be swamped with threads and posts about it!  

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8381433.stm

     

    4246.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:18 pm

    I don´t think there is an institution (as it cannot be thought of otherwise) more corrupt than the Catholic Church and I´m not talking only about repulsive acts like child abuse but all kinds of money embezzlement or getting away with any kind of sin you can think of just because Catholic countries treat them as holy cows. In Poland the situation is only starting to change now, before, being a priest meant you could do whatever you wanted to and people would not stand against you because of your position. It´s sick.

    4247.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     29 Nov 2009 Sun 03:20 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    I don´t think there is an institution (as it cannot be thought of otherwise) more corrupt than the Catholic Church and I´m not talking only about repulsive acts like child abuse but all kinds of money embezzlement or getting away with any kind of sin you can think of just because Catholic countries treat them as holy cows. In Poland the situation is only starting to change now, before, being a priest meant you could do whatever you wanted to and people would not stand against you because of your position. It´s sick.

     

     Yep - completely agree.  I have also wondered something else about the Catholic Church too....where in the bible does it say you need a "pope", a "vatican" and a huge amount of wealth that is never shared with the poor?

    4248.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Dec 2009 Tue 03:28 am

    Meat grown in laboratory

     

    Researchers in the Netherlands created what was described as soggy pork and are now investigating ways to improve the muscle tissue in the hope that people will one day want to eat it.

    No one has yet tasted their produce, but it is believed the artificial meat could be on sale within five years.

    Vegetarian groups welcomed the news, saying there was “no ethical objection” if meat was not a piece of a dead animal.

    Mark Post, professor of physiology at Eindhoven University, told The Sunday Times: “What we have at the moment is rather like wasted muscle tissue. We need to find ways of improving it by training it and stretching it, but we will get there.

     

    ................ummm...........yum..........{#emotions_dlg.puking}..........ugh....I think I´d just rather have beans than this modern innovation...........guess I´m just old fashioned....

    4249.       admin
    758 posts
     01 Dec 2009 Tue 10:31 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

    Meat grown in laboratory

     

    I think it would be awesome if they can do this in a moderately inexpensive way, I am already a big fan  

    4250.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Dec 2009 Tue 11:24 pm

     

    Quoting admin

     

     

    I think it would be awesome if they can do this in a moderately inexpensive way, I am already a big fan  

     

    Hmmm.....I guess there are benefits, but all in all it does not appeal to me.....It doesn´t seem natural and things that aren´t natural often have hidden drawbacks that are only discovered later.

     

    I mean, this is beyond GMO food....

    4251.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     01 Dec 2009 Tue 11:31 pm

    Anything goes for me as long as:

     

    1. it won´t make me have 3rd arm or leg in the long run

    2. no animals were treated with cruelty

    3. it´s not of human origin (what was the title of that old film about global famine and making food of people?)

    4252.       alameda
    3499 posts
     02 Dec 2009 Wed 12:08 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Anything goes for me as long as:

     

    1. it won´t make me have 3rd arm or leg in the long run

    2. no animals were treated with cruelty

    3. it´s not of human origin (what was the title of that old film about global famine and making food of people?)

     

    I think what you refer to is the movie....

    Soylent Green



    Edited (12/2/2009) by alameda

    4253.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     02 Dec 2009 Wed 12:31 am

    Yeap, Soylent Green it was. Thanks oh, and another one comes to mind - Delicatessen

    4254.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     06 Dec 2009 Sun 01:25 pm

    NYC couch potato contest lasts 29 hours

    A Manhattan librarian emerged as a champion couch potato after three rivals gave in to sleep deprivation or nature’s call. Stan Friedman won the ESPN Zone Ultimate Couch Potato Competition, which began Tuesday morning at the ESPN Zone restaurant in Times Square. The event ended Wednesday afternoon after more than 29 grueling hours of continuous sports viewing -- mainly college football bowl games and endless highlights loops. The four participants, sitting in recliners in front of a dozen 42-inch high-definition plasma televisions and a couple of 14-foot HD projection TVs, could order unlimited food and drinks, but they weren’t allowed to go to sleep or leave their recliners except for restroom breaks once every eight hours. Friedman, a research librarian whose favorite sport is baseball, was declared the victor when runner-up Nate Lopez ran to the bathroom before the allotted break time. He won a $5,000 prize package including a huge TV, a cozy recliner and a trophy with a potato on it “I have a 350-square-foot apartment, so I don’t know what I’ll do with the TV,” he said Thursday. “But I’ll make room for the recliner.”

     

    *******

    What a contest! {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    4255.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     06 Dec 2009 Sun 04:00 pm

    Cancel your flight to Amsterdam – the U.S. just got its first marijuana cafe on Friday. Located in Portland, Ore., the Cannabis Cafe shows how attitudes have changed since the Obama administration moved into the White House. A month ago, President Barack Obama told federal attorneys to ease off medical marijuana prosecutions.

     

    More

     

    ******

    So no more weed-searching Americans here? lol lol

     

     

    (The article is 3 weeks old but I hadn´t seen it before.)

    4256.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Dec 2009 Sun 11:30 pm

    Well, Trudy, that explains why Tami hasn´t returned yet. I suppose he´s relaxing in Portland now lol

    4257.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     07 Dec 2009 Mon 12:19 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Well, Trudy, that explains why Tami hasn´t returned yet. I suppose he´s relaxing in Portland now lol

     

     Tami is busy helping birdy....she would not get through if he has not been here for her...))))

    4258.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     11 Dec 2009 Fri 01:30 pm

    Poor little Birdy! {#emotions_dlg.sad}  The Naked Parrot

     

    But she loves to dance!

     

    Oscar the Moluccan cockatoo: Bald parrot defies doctors

     

     

     

    Haha!  I just realised this follows birdy´s post - no intentional link!!  lol lol  ( {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}  



    Edited (12/11/2009) by lady in red
    Edited (12/11/2009) by lady in red

    4259.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     12 Dec 2009 Sat 12:03 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Poor little Birdy! {#emotions_dlg.sad}  The Naked Parrot

     

    But she loves to dance!

     

    Oscar the Moluccan cockatoo: Bald parrot defies doctors

     

     

     

    Haha!  I just realised this follows birdy´s post - no intentional link!!  lol lol  ( {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}  

     LIR for spreading this news about my  distant family I am immediately going to inform Animal protection agency as privacy abuse!!!!{#emotions_dlg.get_you}My cousin´s indecent photos!!!!P**n like in a public forum!!!!We are going to sue you for naked dances fancy!!!!!{#emotions_dlg.rant}

    Damn!!!you revealed the most hidded secret in all bird´s family!!!

    Ps.

    Cousin went featherless after finding out what happened to British orphanage kids sent to Australia after war!!!!Wink

     



    Edited (12/12/2009) by ptaszek [native mistakes making ability of birdy)]

    4260.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Dec 2009 Sat 01:05 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Haha!  I just realised this follows birdy´s post - no intentional link!!  lol lol  ( {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}  

     

     

    MWAAHH!

     

    4261.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     12 Dec 2009 Sat 01:09 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

     

    MWAAHH!

     

     

     ahh femme!!!!it was not Kazakh´s dance)come down from the cloud nine{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}



    Edited (12/12/2009) by ptaszek [corrected from Kazah to Kazakh..just to avoid being blamed by femme that I lost my native abilities to write Boratstan in English!!!!]

    4262.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Dec 2009 Sat 01:37 am

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     ahh femme!!!!it was not Kazakh´s dance)come down from the cloud nine{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

     

    do kazakhs dance? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} or can they?

    4263.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     12 Dec 2009 Sat 01:41 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

     

    do kazakhs dance? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} or can they?

     

     Dobranoc femme{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}lemon in this  TC incarnation)śpij dobrzeWink

    4264.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     14 Dec 2009 Mon 10:39 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     Dobranoc femme{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}lemon in this  TC incarnation)śpij dobrzeWink

     

     Whatever happened to kazpol?

    4265.       lemon
    1374 posts
     14 Dec 2009 Mon 10:45 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     Whatever happened to kazpol?

     

    why? shes still around, alive. slowed down a bit maybe?

    4266.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     02 Jan 2010 Sat 08:19 pm

    A little article in our local paper today reminded me that it is one year since the horrific attack on Gaza by Israel.

     

    It also reminded me of Canli getting very emotional and talking of "our people being killed" and how she couldn´t bear to stand and watch it happen.

     

    I wonder how Egypt has helped Palastinians in Gaza since?  It may be a minute contribution, but other do care and do try to help (despite Egypt´s attempts to block aid).

     

    http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/ryde-man-stuck-with-aid-convoy-30486.aspx

     



    Edited (1/2/2010) by TheAenigma

    4267.       armegon
    1872 posts
     05 Jan 2010 Tue 09:48 am

    M.Ali Ağca applied for Polish citizenship{#emotions_dlg.satisfied_nod}...

    4268.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     05 Jan 2010 Tue 11:35 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    M.Ali Ağca applied for Polish citizenship{#emotions_dlg.satisfied_nod}...

     

    Muhahaha, he´ll be burnt in Poland before he gets the citizenship!

    4269.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Jan 2010 Wed 02:05 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    M.Ali Ağca applied for Polish citizenship{#emotions_dlg.satisfied_nod}...

     

    again? I though he did that last year lol

    4270.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     06 Jan 2010 Wed 07:43 pm

    This article caught my eye:

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=should-muslims-8216slay-the-mockers-of-islam8217-2010-01-05

    4271.       juliacernat
    424 posts
     06 Jan 2010 Wed 08:52 pm

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    A little article in our local paper today reminded me that it is one year since the horrific attack on Gaza by Israel.

     

    It also reminded me of Canli getting very emotional and talking of "our people being killed" and how she couldn´t bear to stand and watch it happen.

     

    I wonder how Egypt has helped Palastinians in Gaza since?  It may be a minute contribution, but other do care and do try to help (despite Egypt´s attempts to block aid).

     

    http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/ryde-man-stuck-with-aid-convoy-30486.aspx

     

     

    "An Egyptian soldier has been killed and at least eight Palestinians hurt in clashes at the Egypt-Gaza border. 

    International activists have been trying to take 200 aid trucks into the blockaded Gaza Strip, but Egypt has refused some of the vehicles access.

    Dozens of activists were hurt during protests over the convoy on Tuesda [...]"

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8442758.stm

     


     

     

    4272.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     06 Jan 2010 Wed 11:24 pm

     

    Quoting juliacernat

     

     

    "An Egyptian soldier has been killed and at least eight Palestinians hurt in clashes at the Egypt-Gaza border. 

    International activists have been trying to take 200 aid trucks into the blockaded Gaza Strip, but Egypt has refused some of the vehicles access.

    Dozens of activists were hurt during protests over the convoy on Tuesday [...]"

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8442758.stm

     

     

    Why are the Egyptians cooperating with this genocide? This is abhorrent.

    4273.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     10 Jan 2010 Sun 10:06 pm

    Dutch on-line newspapers gave this news and I found it in Radikal (unfortunately no English version but this headline I understood):

     

    170 camiden beş dakika boyunca şarkı yayını (five-minute broadcast of songs from 170 mosques in Rize)

     


    4274.       alameda
    3499 posts
     11 Jan 2010 Mon 12:49 am

     

     

    Good article Elisabeth,  Thank you for posting it. {#emotions_dlg.applause}

    4275.       cedars
    235 posts
     11 Jan 2010 Mon 10:51 am

    le figaro article (in french)

    La Turquie saisie par l´«ottomania» 

     

    Turkey seized by the "ottomania"

     

    "

    ....

    The new Turkish diplomacy, driven by Ahmet Davutoglu, active to the Middle East as well as in the Balkans, often is qualified of "neo ottoman". "Turkey reintegrates spaces where she was present during centuries", underlined recently Suat Kiniklioglu, spokesperson of the committee of the foreign affairs to the Parliament

     

    ...."

    http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2010/01/05/01003-20100105ARTFIG00325-la-turquie-saisie-par-l-ottomania-.php

     

    Note: With the increasing role of Iran in Lebanon many lebanese are becoming fan of Ottomania. A bird missing his safe cage

    4276.       cedars
    235 posts
     11 Jan 2010 Mon 08:49 pm

    Lebanon, Turkey lift visa requirements as part of cooperation deals

    Monday, January 11, 2010

     

    "Turkey and Lebanon signed agreements lifting visa requirements for travel during the Lebanese prime minister’s visit to Ankara on Monday

    ....

    Hariri traveled to Turkey to oversee the signing of a series of cooperation agreements. The six accords signed on Monday included defense, health, agriculture, transportation, education and lifting the visa requirement

    ..

    "

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=lebanese-prime-minister-visits-turkey-2010-01-11

     

    4277.       cedars
    235 posts
     12 Jan 2010 Tue 04:38 pm

    France opposed to new Renault Clio production in Turkey

     

    PARIS (Dow Jones)--French Industry Minister Christian Estrosi said Tuesday the government won´t let Renault SA (RNO.FR), the country´s second-largest car manufacturer, shift production of its Clio city car to Turkey.

    "The government, which owns a 15% stake in Renault, has a word to say" on this issue, Estrosi told parliament. "When a car is destined to be sold in France it also needs to be made in France," he added.

    Estrosi will meet with Renault´s chief operating officer Wednesday.

     

    -By Gabriele Parussini, Dow Jones Newswires; +33 1 4017 1766; gabriele.parussini@dowjones.com

    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100112-707708.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines

    4278.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     12 Jan 2010 Tue 09:20 pm

    China’s Bride Shortage is the Result of Gender Specific Abortion Fervor

     

    China’s bride shortage will be widely apparent in the year 2020. This is when approximately 24 million Chinese males will discover that they are without an available Chinese female to marry. The skewed birth rate has favored males over females for nearly 3 decades, stemming mainly from China’s adoption of the 1 child only policy that was designed to help hold the country’s burgeoning population in check.

     

    For years Chinese women who were pregnant for the first time would have the option of aborting a female fetus prior to full term. Some Chinese mothers would have several abortions of females before they finally gave birth to their “1 child” who happened to be a boy. Others were forced to abort children because they had already reached their 1 child limit and there were reports that in some remote villages infant girls were even abandoned and left to perish. The results of these “specific gender” abortions are being blamed largely on the government. Still it was the decision of many first time parents to abort female babies so that they would have another chance to try for a son.

     

    The options for the new generation of “bride-less” Chinese men are fairly limiting. If there are no available women in their age group to marry then the men will be forced to choose women who are far older than they are and some may attempt to marry young girls who are far younger

     

    http://www.ecanadanow.com/curiosity/2010/01/12/chinas-bride-shortage-is-the-result-of-gender-specific-abortion-fervor/comment-page-1/



    Edited (1/12/2010) by Elisabeth

    4279.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     12 Jan 2010 Tue 10:20 pm

    Mmm... I wonder if there is a country in which there is a man shortage. They could organise marriage holidays!

    4280.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     12 Jan 2010 Tue 10:37 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Mmm... I wonder if there is a country in which there is a man shortage. They could organise marriage holidays!

     

     Maybe we will start to see "male harems?"  {#emotions_dlg.think}

     

     

    4281.       alameda
    3499 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 04:54 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    China’s Bride Shortage is the Result of Gender Specific Abortion Fervor

     

    ...................The options for the new generation of “bride-less” Chinese men are fairly limiting. If there are no available women in their age group to marry then the men will be forced to choose women who are far older than they are and some may attempt to marry young girls who are far younger............

     

    This can and probably will get very ugly. Nothing like a few million males with no female companionship around.

     

    Makes the old saying...."think ahead".... more pertinent, don´t you think?



    Edited (1/13/2010) by alameda [add]

    4282.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 11:23 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Maybe we will start to see "male harems?"  {#emotions_dlg.think}

     

     

     

     {#emotions_dlg.eeek} .....

    I have some news everybody, I´m moving to China!

    4283.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 11:50 am

    A while ago I saw a really interesting documentary about the bridal situation in China. I suppose you cannot try to correct nature even if you´re a communistic government...

    4284.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 04:32 pm

    I can´t imagine being disappointed about a daughter.  It is such a twisted way of thinking....so twisted that a mother would abort (this would have to be around the 20 week mark where sex can be determined) or abandon another human being.  As a mother, I can´t think of anything more monsterous.  The Chinese government is allowing/condoning a genocide on the female sex.   

    4285.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 06:40 pm

    I have two female Chinese friends, who I´ve met through my university study. It is very interesting to talk to them, and to get used to the Chinese situation. At my study there were a lot of Chinese people, and usually one of the first question you ask somebody when you are getting to know them is about family. I really had to get it out of my head to ask the question "do you have any brothers or sisters?" A big issue for one of my friends today is her last name. Since she is an only child, but also female, the entire family name is on her shoulders. And she doesn´t have a very common Chinese name, so she is thinking about giving her child her own last name instead of her husbands name.

    4286.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 06:45 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I have two female Chinese friends, who I´ve met through my university study. It is very interesting to talk to them, and to get used to the Chinese situation. At my study there were a lot of Chinese people, and usually one of the first question you ask somebody when you are getting to know them is about family. I really had to get it out of my head to ask the question "do you have any brothers or sisters?" A big issue for one of my friends today is her last name. Since she is an only child, but also female, the entire family name is on her shoulders. And she doesn´t have a very common Chinese name, so she is thinking about giving her child her own last name instead of her husbands name.

     

     That would mean that the ENTIRE reason for her husbands existance (to carry on HIS families last name) would be pointless (according to the Chinese way of thinking)!  I wonder if she will ever find a man willing to do this for her. 

    4287.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 06:45 pm

    My son lives in China and is engaged to a Chinese girl.  I wonder how Chinese men feel about a foreigner ´taking´ one of their few available women {#emotions_dlg.unsure}.  

     

    There are actually 3 children in her family, 2 girls and one boy - but apparently her parents had/have to pay a ´fine´ (in the form of extra taxes) for the privilege of having more than one child.

    4288.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     13 Jan 2010 Wed 08:57 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     That would mean that the ENTIRE reason for her husbands existance (to carry on HIS families last name) would be pointless (according to the Chinese way of thinking)!  I wonder if she will ever find a man willing to do this for her. 

     

     

    Her husband is Dutch, he doesn´t give a hoot about his family´s name A name is nothing but a bunch of letters, that make a phonecall a lot longer. "Can you spell that please, sir?"

    4289.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 03:49 am

    you know what i think about this? (note i think a lot )

     

    it should be females surname that should carry on.

     

    theres only one precious egg to zillions of sperms.

     

    no egg no child! no sperm no problem! the egg can be fertilized by any other cell.

     

    so actually we are that single precious egg. we should carry mothers family name.

    4290.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:05 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    so actually we are that single precious egg. we should carry mothers family name.

     

    of course that´s how it should be.. 



    Edited (1/15/2010) by catwoman

    4291.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 02:51 pm

    Nice logic, Lemoncim lol

     

    I don´t care whose name is kept. A few friends of mine decided to combine their surnames with their husbands and their husbands did the same, so they´re now called, say, Broun-Smythe. Now, if their child marries another double-barrelled person, say, Winston-Churchil, are they going to change their surnames into Broun-Smythe-Winston-Churchil? And what about the next generations?

     

    You know, I think the best idea is to pick a new surname for both people who get married Preferably ones that include the date of the marriage so that men don´t forget it! lol

    4292.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 03:17 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Nice logic, Lemoncim lol

     

    I don´t care whose name is kept. A few friends of mine decided to combine their surnames with their husbands and their husbands did the same, so they´re now called, say, Broun-Smythe. Now, if their child marries another double-barrelled person, say, Winston-Churchil, are they going to change their surnames into Broun-Smythe-Winston-Churchil? And what about the next generations?

     

    You know, I think the best idea is to pick a new surname for both people who get married Preferably ones that include the date of the marriage so that men don´t forget it! lol

     

    then you will not be able to track down your ancestors.

    carrying mothers surname is simple and ideal. i mean you can have any father, but only one woman gives you a birth. and its only mothers who really take care of children.

    everything comes from mother: genetic material, developing material, love, care, support.

     

    to be continued

     

    4293.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 03:45 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

     

    everything comes from mother: genetic material,

     

     

     

     

     interesting point of view ,in that case sperm is nothing but mother´s daily or night cream?{#emotions_dlg.whistle}

    4294.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 03:46 pm

    I´m looking for a guy with an internationally easy name. I would take my husband´s name if it was easier then the one I have now

    4295.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 03:52 pm

    Why do we need last names anyway?  I like the way Native Americans name their children...Soaring Bird, Dancing Bull, Swift River....Its very generic!

    4296.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:05 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     interesting point of view ,in that case sperm is nothing but mother´s daily or night cream?{#emotions_dlg.whistle}

     

    sperm can do a better cream than a genetic material.

     

     

    4297.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:08 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Why do we need last names anyway?  I like the way Native Americans name their children...Soaring Bird, Dancing Bull, Swift River....Its very generic!

     

    soaring bird needs a last name. i need to know whose soaring bird that is. a bird of texas or of smith?

    we need identities, we need history, my dear precious egg.

    4298.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:08 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    sperm can do a better cream than a genetic material.

     

     

     

     I wish I had had my biology classes with you,you sound more interesting {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

    4299.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:11 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     I wish I had had my biology classes with you,you sound more interesting {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

     

    oj, kurna, nie wymadrzaj sie, nie psuj mojej pieknej idei.

     

    a pozatym czy naprawde uwazasz mnie za debila, czy co?

    4300.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:26 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    oj, kurna, nie wymadrzaj sie, nie psuj mojej pieknej idei.

     

    a pozatym czy naprawde uwazasz mnie za debila, czy co?

     

     uważam cię za super inteligentną kobietę....

    Nie miałam zamiaru się wymadrzać,tylko trochę poprzekomarzać{#emotions_dlg.angel}Nie masz chyba dzisiaj złego dnia??????

    4301.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:29 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     uważam cię za super inteligentną kobietę....

    Nie miałam zamiaru się wymadrzać,tylko trochę poprzekomarzać{#emotions_dlg.angel}Nie masz chyba dzisiaj złego dnia??????

     

    nie mam humoru na przekomarzanie sie. i ta moja idea jest super fajoska. nawet mi nie probuj powiedziec cos przeciwko. bo cie przeklne na amen!

    4302.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 06:15 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    nie mam humoru na przekomarzanie sie. i ta moja idea jest super fajoska. nawet mi nie probuj powiedziec cos przeciwko. bo cie przeklne na amen!

     

     THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD

    The Lord is my shepherd,
    I shall not want;
    He makes me lie down in green pastures.
    He leads me beside still waters;
    He restores my soul.
    He leads me in paths of righteousness
    for His name´s sake.

    Even though I walk through the valley
    of the shadow of death,
    I fear no evil;
    for You are with me;
    Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.

    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
    all the days of my life;
    and I shall dwell in the house of the
    Lord forever. 


     Bless you ,and it is the main difference  between us

    4303.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 07:08 pm

    niech ci bedzie. amen!

    jakos strasznie zawyzone mniemanie masz na swoj temat.

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD

    The Lord is my shepherd,
    I shall not want;
    He makes me lie down in green pastures.
    He leads me beside still waters;
    He restores my soul.
    He leads me in paths of righteousness
    for His name´s sake.

    Even though I walk through the valley
    of the shadow of death,
    I fear no evil;
    for You are with me;
    Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.

    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
    all the days of my life;
    and I shall dwell in the house of the
    Lord forever. 


     Bless you ,and it is the main difference  between us

     

     

    4304.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 09:14 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Why do we need last names anyway?  I like the way Native Americans name their children...Soaring Bird, Dancing Bull, Swift River....Its very generic!

     

    That reminds me of a joke:

     

    A little Indian is talking to his pa.

    -Pa, why do we always get these fancy names that actually mean something?

    -Why are you asking? Are you trying to tell me you don´t like my name - Sitting Bull?

    -No, dad, it does sound powerful

    -How about your mother´s name - Swift Gazelle?

    -Oh, no. It really gives her credit

    -Then maybe you have something against your big sisters name - Spring Dew?

    -Ahm, no, it is a lovely name indeed

    - So I have no idea what your problem is, dear Busted Condom

    4305.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jan 2010 Fri 10:44 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    That reminds me of a joke:

     

    A little Indian is talking to his pa.

    -Pa, why do we always get these fancy names that actually mean something?

    -Why are you asking? Are you trying to tell me you don´t like my name - Sitting Bull?

    -No, dad, it does sound powerful

    -How about your mother´s name - Swift Gazelle?

    -Oh, no. It really gives her credit

    -Then maybe you have something against your big sisters name - Spring Dew?

    -Ahm, no, it is a lovely name indeed

    - So I have no idea what your problem is, dear Busted Condom

     

     hehehe!!{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4306.       murat elhamri
    26 posts
     16 Jan 2010 Sat 12:10 am

    A sheep gave birth to a dead lamb with a human-like face. The calf was born in a village not far from the city of Izmir, Turkey.

    Erhan Elibol, a vet, performed Cesarean section on the animal to take the lamb out, but was horrified to see that the features of the lamb´s snout bore a striking resemblance to a human face.



    ´´I’ve seen mutations with cows and sheep before. I’ve seen a one-eyed calf, a two-headed calf, a five-legged calf. But when I saw this youngster I could not believe my eyes. His mother could not deliver him so I had to help the animal,” the 29-year-old veterinary said.

    The lamb’s head had human features on – the eyes, the nose and the mouth – only the ears were those of a sheep.

    Veterinarians said that the rare mutation most likely occurred as a result of improper nutrition since the fodder for the lamb’s mother was abundant with vitamin A, CNNTurk.com reports.

    4307.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     16 Jan 2010 Sat 01:07 am

     

    Quoting murat elhamri



     

    That hairy back is a dead giveaway away Tami dear.   That´s no lamb, only a self-portrait you´ve taken.  {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

     

    Glad to see you are back raising your normal crap  {#emotions_dlg.yes}

    4308.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     17 Jan 2010 Sun 06:10 pm

    AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The Dutch are among the lowest users of marijuana or cannabis in Europe despite the Netherlands´ well-known tolerance of the drug, according to a regional study published on Thursday. Among adults in the Netherlands, 5.4 percent used cannabis, compared with the European average of 6.8 percent, according to an annual report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, using latest available figures.

    A higher percentage of adults in Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic and France took cannabis last year, the EU agency said, with the highest being Italy at 14.6 percent. Usage in Italy used to be among the lowest at below 10 percent a decade ago.

    Countries with the lowest usage rates, according to the Lisbon-based agency, were Romania, Malta, Greece and Bulgaria.

     

    ______________________________________________

     

    Does it mean that legalising pot may lower the consumption, acaba {#emotions_dlg.nargile}

    4309.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Jan 2010 Sun 07:16 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The Dutch are among the lowest users of marijuana or cannabis in Europe despite the Netherlands´ well-known tolerance of the drug, according to a regional study published on Thursday. Among adults in the Netherlands, 5.4 percent used cannabis, compared with the European average of 6.8 percent, according to an annual report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, using latest available figures.

    A higher percentage of adults in Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic and France took cannabis last year, the EU agency said, with the highest being Italy at 14.6 percent. Usage in Italy used to be among the lowest at below 10 percent a decade ago.

    Countries with the lowest usage rates, according to the Lisbon-based agency, were Romania, Malta, Greece and Bulgaria.

     

    ______________________________________________

     

    Does it mean that legalising pot may lower the consumption, acaba {#emotions_dlg.nargile}

     

    We´re not all high in the sky! 

    4310.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     18 Jan 2010 Mon 06:16 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The Dutch are among the lowest users of marijuana or cannabis in Europe despite the Netherlands´ well-known tolerance of the drug, according to a regional study published on Thursday. Among adults in the Netherlands, 5.4 percent used cannabis, compared with the European average of 6.8 percent, according to an annual report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, using latest available figures.

    A higher percentage of adults in Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic and France took cannabis last year, the EU agency said, with the highest being Italy at 14.6 percent. Usage in Italy used to be among the lowest at below 10 percent a decade ago.

    Countries with the lowest usage rates, according to the Lisbon-based agency, were Romania, Malta, Greece and Bulgaria.

     

    ______________________________________________

     

    Does it mean that legalising pot may lower the consumption, acaba {#emotions_dlg.nargile}

     

     It appears that way!  I wonder about the drinking age in Germany and the effects it has as well.

    4311.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     18 Jan 2010 Mon 06:36 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     It appears that way!  I wonder about the drinking age in Germany and the effects it has as well.

     

    Probably 16-18 like here (beer/booze) and the effects? Well no drunken drivers of 16 as thát age is 18.

    4312.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 07:34 pm

    I read the story about 12 years old Meryam from Dogubeyazit (Eastern Turkey) who supposedly had an ´accident´ with her fathers gun. Coincident that it just happened after she wrote a ´I love you´ letter to a classmate and she was caught? I don´t believe it. It sounds a little too much to ´honour´ revenge. 

     

    For those who want to read the story, here it is in Turkish.

    4313.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 09:30 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    I read the story about 12 years old Meryam from Dogubeyazit (Eastern Turkey) who supposedly had an ´accident´ with her fathers gun. Coincident that it just happened after she wrote a ´I love you´ letter to a classmate and she was caught? I don´t believe it. It sounds a little too much to ´honour´ revenge. 

     

    For those who want to read the story, here it is in Turkish.

     

    shhhhh...

     

    dont tell this vineyards or armegon!

     

    4314.       Yersu
    241 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:02 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    shhhhh...

     

    dont tell this vineyards or armegon!

     

     

    Why would Turkish people get offended by that? This is how it was and how it will be, Kurds just won´t give up the feodal lifestyle and "töre". I have heard supposedly leftist/liberal DTP´s parliament members defend the "töre" with my own ears. This isn´t a simple education issue, it´s cultural. Any action against töre is regarded as an attempt of assimilation. We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.

    4315.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:16 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    Why would Turkish people get offended by that? This is how it was and how it will be, Kurds just won´t give up the feodal lifestyle and "töre". I have heard supposedly leftist/liberal DTP´s parliament members defend the "töre" with my own ears. This isn´t a simple education issue, it´s cultural. Any action against töre is regarded as an attempt of assimilation. We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.

     

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    i dont know. they get offended by anything.

     

     

    4316.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:17 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

     We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.

     

     It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!

    No mercy for child´s abusers !!!!!!!!

    4317.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:20 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!

    No mercy for child´s abusers !!!!!!!!

     

    You can simply call them child murderers.

    4318.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:25 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    You can simply call them child murderers.

     

     damn f*******ng world!!!

    4319.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:25 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!

    No mercy for child´s abusers !!!!!!!!

     

    ah, only children?

     

    no mercy to any abuser!

     

    but turks prefer to have no mercy or find no tolerance to the mistakes happen in norway or other western countries.

     

    so far i have never seen any turk here in tc posting things happen this sad  in turkey or neaighbouring eastern countries (oh, except for israel) to show their outrage or anger. or coming with ideas or wishes to change this.

     

     

    4320.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:28 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    ah, only children?

     

    no mercy to any abuser!

     

    but turks prefer to have no mercy or find no tolerance to the mistakes happen in norway or other western countries.

     

    so far i have never seen any turk here in tc posting things happen this sad  in turkey or neaighbouring eastern countries (oh, except for israel) to show their outrage or anger. or coming with ideas or wishes to change this.

     

     

     

     no mercy to any abuser!!!Happens so rarely but today I agree with lemon!!!

    4321.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:30 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     no mercy to any abuser!!!Happens so rarely but today I agree with lemon!!!

     

    you try not to agree with me {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

     

    i will have no mercy to you!

    4322.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:33 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    you try not to agree with me {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

     

    i will have no mercy to you!

     

     Cursing me again____?????{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}I know you have good heart!!!so I don´t care about.....the rest!!!!{#emotions_dlg.get_you}

    4323.       Yersu
    241 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:40 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!

    No mercy for child´s abusers !!!!!!!!

     

    How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.

    4324.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:45 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.

     

    Sünnet? As long as that is properly done, hardly any boy suffers from the consequences, I don´t think a lot of them will die because of it. Strange to compare sünnet with honour murder

    4325.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:46 pm

    {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}cannot see connection!!!sorry,I am damn blond!!!!I do not think logically ..TODAY!!!!i am ANGRY!!!!

    sunnet and 12 year old girl given example !!

    are you ok Yersu???Or should I call Norwegian ambulance for you????

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.

     

     

    4326.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:46 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.

     

    what? circumcision? what about that?

     

    are you comparing that with tragedies like honor killing? circumcision is a temporary pain that is rewarded with loads of gifts and money. and then it never hurts again.

     

    blinkin hell you made me angry.

    4327.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:48 pm

    you didnt know whom you are dealing with, yersu.

    {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4328.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:50 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

    {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}cannot see connection!!!sorry,I am damn blond!!!!I do not think logically ..TODAY!!!!i am ANGRY!!!!

    sunnet and 12 year old girl given example !!

    are you ok Yersu???Or should I call Norwegian ambulance for you????

     

     

     

    that was an excellent example of diverting the cats for you, miss warsaw!

     

    cats post was more on spot and logic.

    4329.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:50 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    you didnt know whom you are dealing with, yersu.

    {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

     

     I guess he does not have..if he is he..lazy to check... his ritual  TLC circumstition yet{#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4330.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:51 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.

    Female genital mutilation

    key facts

    • Female genital mutilation (FGM) includes procedures that intentionally alter or injure female genital organs for non-medical reasons.
    • An estimated 100 to 140 million girls and women worldwide are currently living with the consequences of FGM.
    • In Africa, about three million girls are at risk for FGM annually.
    • The procedure has no health benefits for girls and women.
    • Procedures can cause severe bleeding and problems urinating, and later, potential childbirth complications and newborn deaths.
    • It is mostly carried out on young girls sometime between infancy and age 15 years.
    • FGM is internationally recognized as a violation of the human rights of girls and women.

    so how is it similar to circumcision? It´s like saying there´s no difference between cutting your toenails and cutting your toes {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

    If it´s such a no big deal, would you do it to your mom?

    4331.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:54 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    This is their culture, they define themselves with it.

     

    so if there´s a long tradition of cannibalism in a culture, does it mean the world should applaud it and not want it to change? Cool {#emotions_dlg.stoneage}

     

    Yersu, I think you just made it to the post of the week thread!

    4332.       Yersu
    241 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:56 pm

    How about female circumcision then? It leaves a woman permanently disabled so this could be a better example. Anyway; these are not completely different issues as you claim. The least harmful is sünnet, as you increse the scale you have female circumsicion, as you increase it even further you have blood feuds and honor killings. All are harmful acts dictated by ones culture and I don´t see much difference between them except the scale.

     

    (Oops someone seems to have posted about female circumsicion before me, damn I can´t write in English fast enough :S)



    Edited (1/19/2010) by Yersu

    4333.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:57 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    that was an excellent example of diverting the cats for you, miss warsaw!

     

    cats post was more on spot and logic.

     

     damn Polish vice,isn´t it?good night!))Ms spiteful)))

    4334.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 10:58 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

    How about female circumcision then? It leaves a woman permanently disabled so this could be a better example. Anyway; these are not completely different issues as you claim. The least harmful is sünnet, as you increse the scale you have female circumsicion, as you increase it even further you have blood feuds and honor killings. All are harmful acts dictated by ones culture and I don´t see much difference between them except the scale.

     

    4335.       Yersu
    241 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:04 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    so if there´s a long tradition of cannibalism in a culture, does it mean the world should applaud it and not want it to change? Cool {#emotions_dlg.stoneage}

     

    Yersu, I think you just made it to the post of the week thread!

     

    How did human society grow out of cannibalism? Was there an intervention? (of aliens lets say). Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.

     

    Here is the issue: an average Kurd without töre isn´t much different than an average Turk. You can tell these two apart physically but it isn´t as evident as whites and blacks. They practice the same religion, have similar cuisines etc. More than half of Kurds can not speak any Kurdish dialect and %90+ can understand Turkish. Töre and feudal lifestyle is one of those few things(or maybe the only thing) that sets them apart. That´s one of the reasons why complete abolishment of töre = assimilation for them. And this is true to some degree.

    4336.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:11 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

     Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.

     

     

    Yes, we all know the Turkish government is extremely delicate and culture-sensitive, especially towards the Kurdish, or, shall I say, the mountain Turks´ culture.

     

    You´d think a government which does not hesitate to invade other country´s territory in order to do their business should be a bit more successful in fighting crime and providing education. Meanwhile, it´s like leaving those poor girls on their own.

    4337.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:29 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    so far i have never seen any turk here in tc posting things happen this sad  in turkey or neaighbouring eastern countries to show their outrage or anger. or coming with ideas or wishes to change this.

     

    I agree! Which again shows taht some people are only upset when it´s "racism against Turkish people" or "racism of non-Muslims against Muslims", but not when it´s racism OF Turkish people, or Muslims agasint non-Muslims, or Muslims against other Muslims, even when those events are much worse. I am very skeptical when I see people criticizing others who are unable to bear criticism themselves, because they will turn around and do the same thing when THEY are in the position of power. It´s kind of like what´s happening now in Israel...

    4338.       Yersu
    241 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:35 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Yes, we all know the Turkish government is extremely delicate and culture-sensitive, especially towards the Kurdish, or, shall I say, the mountain Turks´ culture.

     

    You´d think a government which does not hesitate to invade other country´s territory in order to do their business should be a bit more successful in fighting crime and providing education. Meanwhile, it´s like leaving those poor girls on their own.

    How about honor killings amongst immigrants in Europe? Shouldn´t European countries succeed where Turkey seems to have failed, fighting crime and education? Last time I checked they are even more common there.

    4339.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:37 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    Why would Turkish people get offended by that? This is how it was and how it will be, Kurds just won´t give up the feodal lifestyle and "töre". I have heard supposedly leftist/liberal DTP´s parliament members defend the "töre" with my own ears. This isn´t a simple education issue, it´s cultural. Any action against töre is regarded as an attempt of assimilation. We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.

     

    That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.



    Edited (1/19/2010) by catwoman

    4340.       armegon
    1872 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:52 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    i dont know. they get offended by anything.

     

     

     

    Haha, tell this to those who starts the sentence "firstly im not christian but" & "it is horrible however" etc, ok lemon the nightmare of zurna players?

    4341.       armegon
    1872 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:55 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.

     

     

     Maybe they should appeal to their great mother Daniella Mitterand

    4342.       armegon
    1872 posts
     19 Jan 2010 Tue 11:59 pm

    I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...

    4343.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:01 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

    How about honor killings amongst immigrants in Europe? Shouldn´t European countries succeed where Turkey seems to have failed, fighting crime and education? Last time I checked they are even more common there.

     

    You´re right - it´s equally disgusting in Europe or anywhere else in the world. As far as I know these crimes are punished with up to life sentence in Europe. Plus there´s a lot of institutions and hostels aimed at helping women who are threatened with violence. Can you please give a link to the numbers of honour killings in Europe vs in Turkey. Somehow I find it hard to believe that they are more common here than there (although I stand to be corrected!)

    4344.       raindrops
    267 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:07 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.

     

    there are prominent people in every society, culture or nation, but it does not make people clever in general. intellect of crowd is low, intellect of individual - high.

    more develop culture is less aggressive and it is a weak point.

    would you try to teach your newborn higher mathematics? i bet - no, you would wait for certain years. though with cultures we do not wait. we are eager to put them on equal to ours levels ...

    global culture became more humane, that is why countries and nations are not free to make some small genocides - there will be punishment ... for example, why Napoleon was so successful? his first salvo was fired with live cartridges, rest - blank. and it had its effect

    4345.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:09 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...

     

    And you don´t wonder about her committing suicide as the second member of the same family? Her sister (supposedly) committed suicide in 1997 (or 1996, can´t remember). Weird, that deaths are administrated as suicides. Looks like a huge covering up to me.

    4346.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:10 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.

    You are right catwoman; there has been so many things going on between Turks & Kurds that it isn´t possible for us to intervene in their lifestyle anymore. We are alienated and that was what I was trying to say from the start. 

     

    An example: I have relatives who work as teacher and nurse there, and did you know that infantile paralysis is still a serious problem among the Kurds? Because many rural Kurds reject vaccines as there are rumours that Turks are trying to sterilize them. Go figure, the trust between the peoples are THAT terrible. You know, like that story of the old man and the snake. And I don´t see it getting better soon, the only Kurds that have no issues are the so called Turkified Kurds. Like American of Irish descent etc.

     

    Anyway; This is not an issue of who is right or wrong anymore. Turks or Turkish government can no longer intervene such issues, they will defend it more and more. My point right from the start, let them live their culture freely. Let them run amuck killing whoever they want. Sooner or later they will see that this is ridiculous and grow out of it, by themselves.

     



    Edited (1/20/2010) by Yersu

    4347.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:10 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That´s just ridiculous and racist.

     

     Saying the truth is not racism i think. Yersu, it seems you are the new racist member Wink 

    4348.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:12 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...

     

    As the penalties were increased for Töre related crimes (töre saikiyle adam öldürme), forcing suicides has become a new trend. I don´t think these type of deaths can really be called suicide. And I think non Kurdish and non-Islamist teachers should have been selected to go work there, too late now :S

    4349.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:13 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...

     

     I admit I didn´t,just got angry at the fact that a child died.But still outrageous is the fact that girl´s letter was brought into daily light,her feeling rideculed and her soul tramped.We adults pretty often destroy children in the name of culture,traditons,values,etc...

    Thanks for explaining but it does not change the fact that girl is lost,a kid is lost only bcs of adult´s stupidity!!!!!!

    4350.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:13 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    And you don´t wonder about her committing suicide as the second member of the same family? Her sister (supposedly) committed suicide in 1997 (or 1996, can´t remember). Weird, that deaths are administrated as suicides. Looks like a huge covering up to me.

     

    Everything possible, i just put what i read...

    4351.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:15 am

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

     Saying the truth is not racism i think. Yersu, it seems you are the new racist member Wink 

     

    I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.



    Edited (1/20/2010) by Yersu

    4352.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:15 am

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

     Saying the truth is not racism i think. Yersu, it seems you are the new  old racist member Wink 

     

     strange feeling i have.....

    4353.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:18 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.

     

     I have to say your english is excellent, much better than mine

    4354.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:27 am

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

     I have to say your english is excellent, much better than mine

     

     If I did not know you armegon I would buy you{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}here you are taking the mickey{#emotions_dlg.whistle}

    4355.       oeince
    582 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:37 am

    I also read that news. Very sad...What is more sad is that stupidity is called as Töre and it is usual...That event is a sample..Unfortunately there are a lot of girls like that especially in the eastern Turkey...They are a step away from getting crazy becouse of family domination.

     

    That events happen in closed societies. We lose our tiny girls...Turkish goverment has to produce a social policyto transform that kind of society. I hope that atrocity would become the last but i am sure it is not as long as goverment dont emphasize that event seriosly...

    4356.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:41 am

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     strange feeling i have.....

     

    I assure you I am not an old member if that is what you are trying to imply. I found this site through another forum, where a quite angry British woman had posted an irrelevant and bitter topic about how Turks should be exterminated from the surface of the earth. It turns out she was scammed by a love rat, and along my searches about the topic I stumbled upon this site. I read some stuff on the forums (all that Dudu terminology and stuff), felt like as if Turks were somewhat underhanded here and decided to become a member. I hope to improve my English as well, as a side effect.

    4357.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:55 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

     Turks were somewhat underhanded here

     

    Oi! That´s not true! Fine, we do criticise some things but 99% of us got here because we enjoyed our holidays there or decided to learn the language. I am the first to recommend visiting Turkey to everyone I know!

     

    It´s just that some of the people have been here since 2004 if I remember correctly, over this time we´ve covered all topics about the beauty of Turkish landscapes and cuisine. Now we´re simply commenting on the news that somebody quotes. I wish there was more nicer news, though...

    4358.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 01:10 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    I assure you I am not an old member if that is what you are trying to imply. I found this site through another forum, where a quite angry British woman had posted an irrelevant and bitter topic about how Turks should be exterminated from the surface of the earth. It turns out she was scammed by a love rat, and along my searches about the topic I stumbled upon this site. I read some stuff on the forums (all that Dudu terminology and stuff), felt like as if Turks were somewhat underhanded here and decided to become a member. I hope to improve my English as well, as a side effect.

     

     just teasing)))and I am not trying to imply anything,I am just having fun with TLC as always

    and i support dd post above

    we discussed almost all here...ahhh..wish you luck with side effect!Hope you don´t need to be vaccinated???))))

     

    4359.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 01:42 am

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     just teasing)))and I am not trying to imply anything,I am just having fun with TLC as always

    and i support dd post above

    we discussed almost all here...ahhh..wish you luck with side effect!Hope you don´t need to be vaccinated???))))

     

     

    Well I guess the phrase "English as a side effect" is a testimony that I should really improve my English Maybe side-quest would be more appropriate.

    4360.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 03:28 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

    You are right catwoman; there has been so many things going on between Turks & Kurds that it isn´t possible for us to intervene in their lifestyle anymore. We are alienated and that was what I was trying to say from the start. 

     

    An example: I have relatives who work as teacher and nurse there, and did you know that infantile paralysis is still a serious problem among the Kurds? Because many rural Kurds reject vaccines as there are rumours that Turks are trying to sterilize them. Go figure, the trust between the peoples are THAT terrible. You know, like that story of the old man and the snake. And I don´t see it getting better soon, the only Kurds that have no issues are the so called Turkified Kurds. Like American of Irish descent etc.

     

    Anyway; This is not an issue of who is right or wrong anymore. Turks or Turkish government can no longer intervene such issues, they will defend it more and more. My point right from the start, let them live their culture freely. Let them run amuck killing whoever they want. Sooner or later they will see that this is ridiculous and grow out of it, by themselves.

     

     

    You´re right, a lot of horrible things have happened to Kurds from teh hands of Turks, but you will not see any Turk acknowledge that.. or at least not many. The process of improving will have to be long and is going to be harder because of what happened in the past, but you cannot get anywhere if you first do not acknowledge your mistakes and look for a way to make up for them. You still see Turks desiring a military solution for the conflict, they just refuse to see the root of the problem (but they notice racism anywhere when it´s them that´s in trouble - not to say taht it´s bad, but it´s certainly hypocritical). The situation is the same as it was in Ireland, until it dawned on Britain to address the roots of the grievances, and suddenly terrorism stopped!

    4361.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 03:50 am

    Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the U.S. military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

    The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

    U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

     

    (...)

     

    "This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It´s literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we´re fighting. We´re emboldening an enemy."

     

    SOURCE

     

    ____________________________________

     

    That´s quite outrageous that a gun manufacturer produces something against the military rules and nobody checks it prior to it being handed to soldiers.

    4362.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 04:32 am

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     Saying the truth is not racism i think.

     

    But what you are saying is the same as saying that all muslims are terrotists is the truth, not racism. How come you see this behavior in others, but not in yourself? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4363.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 05:16 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    You´re right, a lot of horrible things have happened to Kurds from teh hands of Turks

    Uhm, that´s kinda putting words into my mouth. I do not deny what Turks did, but displaying Kurds as angels, which seems to be the defautl behaviour by many, isn´t realistic at all. I rather believe in the idiom "Mazlumlar zulmetmekte geç kalanlardır" (which I remember there was a similar idiom in English, bur I can´t remember, meaning the oppressed are the ones that were late to oppress). We saw it many times throughout the history, Zimbabwe, Haiti,  Israel, and we are starting to see it in Turkey.

     

    No need to sugarcoat anything, or debate over who is/was wrong or right at this point. Kurds & Turks do not want to live together and the sooner this problem is dealt with the better.

    4364.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 10:00 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    But what you are saying is the same as saying that all muslims are terrotists is the truth, not racism. How come you see this behavior in others, but not in yourself? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

     , be sure from the beginning i tell the same things that Yersu mentioned, what about you? Do you say all muslims are terrorists is the truth all the time? And you are talking about sincerety. Btw where did Yersu call all Kurds are primitive and backward? He just told its their culture...

    4365.       lemon
    1374 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:07 pm

    snow!

     

    blinkin hell!!!

     

    i wish i could sleep over this horrible winter.

     

    wheres that flinkin global warming, i ask you?

    4366.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:29 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

    [...] We saw it many times throughout the history, Zimbabwe, Haiti,  Israel, and we are starting to see it in Turkey.

     

    No need to sugarcoat anything, or debate over who is/was wrong or right at this point. Kurds & Turks do not want to live together and the sooner this problem is dealt with the better.

     

     

    When you said something about honour killings in Europe, and I was surprised, since I haven´t heard much about it in Holland. But ofcourse, you meant the U.K., France and Germany.

    I think Kurdish people in general beware anything offered tot hem by the Turkish government, even medical care. But can you blame them? You can´t compare the Kurds to people in Israel... people in Israel have their own country, and also in general a high standard of living. Nobody can deny that the economy of the east of Turkey is much less developped then other parts of Turkey. Things like a good infrastructure and good education is often missing, and as far as I know, this is a job of the government to do. The east of Turkey happens to be highly populated by Kurdish people. There is a direct link between education and things like honour killings. There is also a direct link between infrastructural development and education... The government has a job to do, and yes it is a hard job, and yes there will be resistence. But when did the Turkish government didn´t do something because a bit of resistence before?

     

    I´m not blaming this girl commiting suicide (or her family killing her, we´ll never know) on the Turkish government directly. But there needs to be something done about structural under-developped areas in Turkey, and I believe (and mostly hope)  this will improve the lives of people in more ways then just with money.

     

    By the way... no critisism but a real question... What do you think is the solution, if Kurds and Turks really cannot live together? A Kurdish seperate state, or perhaps a Kurdish state under the umbrella of Turkey? What´s your view?

    4367.       Yersu
    241 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 02:13 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     

    When you said something about honour killings in Europe, and I was surprised, since I haven´t heard much about it in Holland. But ofcourse, you meant the U.K., France and Germany.

    I think Kurdish people in general beware anything offered tot hem by the Turkish government, even medical care. But can you blame them? You can´t compare the Kurds to people in Israel... people in Israel have their own country, and also in general a high standard of living. Nobody can deny that the economy of the east of Turkey is much less developped then other parts of Turkey. Things like a good infrastructure and good education is often missing, and as far as I know, this is a job of the government to do. The east of Turkey happens to be highly populated by Kurdish people. There is a direct link between education and things like honour killings. There is also a direct link between infrastructural development and education... The government has a job to do, and yes it is a hard job, and yes there will be resistence. But when did the Turkish government didn´t do something because a bit of resistence before?

     

    I´m not blaming this girl commiting suicide (or her family killing her, we´ll never know) on the Turkish government directly. But there needs to be something done about structural under-developped areas in Turkey, and I believe (and mostly hope)  this will improve the lives of people in more ways then just with money.

     

    By the way... no critisism but a real question... What do you think is the solution, if Kurds and Turks really cannot live together? A Kurdish seperate state, or perhaps a Kurdish state under the umbrella of Turkey? What´s your view?

    Barba_mama;

    Thanks for you reply however you are only pointing out the obvious:

    -Hey we have some some issues in a region of our country. Crime, killings, poverty and whatnot.

    -Hmm maybe you should improve the education and economy...

    -Wow, I don´t know why I never thought about that before!

     

    I don´t want to offend you but seriously..The issue is much more complicated. And it´s not like regional differences are exclusive to Turkey, look at Italy for example which resides at the heart of Europe.There is even a separatist Northern group who wants to cut south off as far as I know.

     

     

    Anyway; as for your question, I don´t think there is a solution. Turkey as we know it won´t exist in the future. I am a Turkish separatist btw. and people like me are increasing day by day. A peaceful separation and a population exchange is the only thing that can prevent the impending bloodshed.

     

    4368.       cedars
    235 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 03:10 pm

    Turkish FM Davutoglu unveils new manifesto for Turkish diplomacy

    “....

     All maps are subjective. When you take a look at it from Japan, Japan seems to be at the center and when you take a look at it from the United Kingdom, it seems in the center. However, whatever map you take a look at, Turkey is always at the center.

    .....

    Davutoğlu said: “We must have a message for the world. We are in the position of doing justice to this region. There is no other country in the world that has the same location as us. We must be active in these five, six regions simultaneously … Turkey’s diplomacy can only be compared with that of five or six countries in the world.”

     

    http://www.today.az/news/turkey/58893.html

    4369.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 05:03 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

    Barba_mama;

    Thanks for you reply however you are only pointing out the obvious:

    -Hey we have some some issues in a region of our country. Crime, killings, poverty and whatnot.

    -Hmm maybe you should improve the education and economy...

    -Wow, I don´t know why I never thought about that before!

     

    I don´t want to offend you but seriously..The issue is much more complicated. And it´s not like regional differences are exclusive to Turkey, look at Italy for example which resides at the heart of Europe.There is even a separatist Northern group who wants to cut south off as far as I know.

     

     

    Anyway; as for your question, I don´t think there is a solution. Turkey as we know it won´t exist in the future. I am a Turkish separatist btw. and people like me are increasing day by day. A peaceful separation and a population exchange is the only thing that can prevent the impending bloodshed.

     

     

    Ofcourse it´s more complicated, but we can´t state the history of the issue and all the factors on a website like this. A whole book won´t cover the different aspects, so I just took out two points that are easier to solve. You can´t change anything about history, the people who´ve died on both sides, broken promises, things like that. I think a lot of Turkish people have an opinion about the Kurdish "situation" without taking the trouble to actually study the history of the issue. And it is SO hard to find a objective source on this topic. It seems that always parts of history seem to be missing, and a very black/white view comes across. My idealism is not because of a lack of knowledge, my idealism is just because I AM an idealist

     

    Who knows, maybe I will go to the east some day and teach in some small village My Turkish sucks, but my Kurdish is even worse. I can count to ten, say hi, how are you...good, bad... and no... I can´t even say yes! Me in a Kurdish populated village...won´t that be weird... Anyway, a nice documentary is "On the way to school" by Orhan Esikoy and Özgür Dogan. It´s a must see, how a young Turkish teacher from Denizli goes to a small village in the east to teach.

     

    A population exchange... like the Greek-Turkish thing?

    4370.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 05:08 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    snow!

     

    blinkin hell!!!

     

    i wish i could sleep over this horrible winter.

     

    wheres that flinkin global warming, i ask you?

     

     I believe I invited you to Texas.  It was 26 celcius here yesterday!  {#emotions_dlg.yes}

    4371.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 06:44 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I believe I invited you to Texas.  It was 26 celcius here yesterday!  {#emotions_dlg.yes}

     

    When you invited me, it was only 10 celsius!!!! (((

    4372.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 07:34 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    When you invited me, it was only 10 celsius!!!! (((

     

     YOU brought the cold with you!  {#emotions_dlg.yes}

    4373.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 07:36 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     YOU brought the cold with you!  {#emotions_dlg.yes}

     

    No way, I came from a warm Guatemala remember?

    4374.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 07:53 pm

    Again news from the East: An employee of the city hall in Yenisehir has to give half of his salary to his wife because he was violent towards her. That is the new rule for local government personnel. The rule will be executed in cases of domestic violence or polygamy.

     

    The complete article can be read in Turkish.

     

    **********

     

    Keep up the good work, Hafize Ipek!

    4375.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 08:39 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the U.S. military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

    The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

    U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

     

    (...)

     

    "This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It´s literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we´re fighting. We´re emboldening an enemy."

     

    SOURCE

     

    ____________________________________

     

    That´s quite outrageous that a gun manufacturer produces something against the military rules and nobody checks it prior to it being handed to soldiers.

     

     Are you kidding that´s the least of our worries...we still have passengers with bombs strapped to them flying over our cities.

    4376.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 08:41 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    snow!

     

    blinkin hell!!!

     

    i wish i could sleep over this horrible winter.

     

    wheres that flinkin global warming, i ask you?

     

     Go to talk to Al Gore...{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4377.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 08:45 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Again news from the East: An employee of the city hall in Yenisehir has to give half of his salary to his wife because he was violent towards her. That is the new rule for local government personnel. The rule will be executed in cases of domestic violence or polygamy.

     

    The complete article can be read in Turkish.

     

    **********

     

    Keep up the good work, Hafize Ipek!

     

     So you basically pay them off. What happened to getting fired and serving jail time?{#emotions_dlg.confused}

    4378.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 08:47 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    No way, I came from a warm Guatemala remember?

     

     And I came from a warm tequila sunrise...{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}Lis...still hasn´t invited me.{#emotions_dlg.sad}

    4379.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 08:50 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     And I came from a warm tequila sunrise...{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}Lis...still hasn´t invited me.{#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

     Teas, I wasn´t aware that you needed an invitation!  Just stop in anytime. 

    4380.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 09:14 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Teas, I wasn´t aware that you needed an invitation!  Just stop in anytime. 

     

     Yeehaw!!  Is that how you say it in Texas....{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}I´ll see you in a couple weeks!  I´ll even babysit for you...

    4381.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 09:17 pm

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     Yeehaw!!  Is that how you say it in Texas....{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}I´ll see you in a couple weeks!  I´ll even babysit for you...

     

    I think Elisabeth is not a real Texan, as she didn´t say ´Yeehaw´ even once....!!

    4382.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 09:31 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    I think Elisabeth is not a real Texan, as she didn´t say ´Yeehaw´ even once....!!

     I do believe I said "ya´ll" a few times!

     

    4383.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Jan 2010 Wed 11:41 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHPWDQw3J4Y  {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    4384.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     22 Jan 2010 Fri 06:13 pm

    Topics regarding Turkish men are still the hottest thing on TC!  God Bless Tourism!{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

    4385.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Jan 2010 Fri 08:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Topics regarding Turkish men are still the hottest thing on TC!  God Bless Tourism!{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

     

    Well, (some) Turkish men blame that they are ....... lol lol

    4386.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Jan 2010 Fri 08:40 pm

    I have the feeling that we Dutch are not very welcome anymore in Turkey..... {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

     

    A travel agent launched a new advertising campaign with - at least - not too popular pictures. {#emotions_dlg.shame}

     

    That´s what I read on forums here. I found an article in the Turkish version of Hürriyet (couldn´t find it in the English one) but as I can´t read all that, someone willing to translate and give a summery? 

     

    D-reizen in Turkey

    4387.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     22 Jan 2010 Fri 08:53 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    I have the feeling that we Dutch are not very welcome anymore in Turkey..... {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

     

     

     They are tired of you marking up their marble floors with your clogs!!  {#emotions_dlg.razz}

    4388.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Jan 2010 Fri 09:01 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     They are tired of you marking up their marble floors with your clogs!!  {#emotions_dlg.razz}

     

    So no more dudus for me?

    4389.       Gülümseme
    posts
     22 Jan 2010 Fri 11:01 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    I have the feeling that we Dutch are not very welcome anymore in Turkey..... {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

     

    A travel agent launched a new advertising campaign with - at least - not too popular pictures. {#emotions_dlg.shame}

     

    That´s what I read on forums here. I found an article in the Turkish version of Hürriyet (couldn´t find it in the English one) but as I can´t read all that, someone willing to translate and give a summery? 

     

    D-reizen in Turkey

     

    You had the key idea, for a bit more detail and summary of tranlsation see below  

     

    A new campaign was launched which used the head of Ataturk from Turkish bank notes merging them with photos of young women and bikinis  (and others)

     

    Holland´s largest tour company caused great offence amongst Turks with its latest advertisement campaign.

     

    The dispaly of bill boards in all four corners of the country and decorating streets  with posters of women wearing bikinis but with the head of Ataturk caused a strong reaction

     

    With these pictures the D Reizen has insulted Ataturk

     

    Seeing the reaction of the campaign in Holland the President of the Ataturk association Yılmaz Çalışkan said  " We can not understand how D- Reizen has made such a big mistake"  The boards must be removed immediately.

     

    D - Reizens Commercial Affairs General Manager  Ton Vendrig  said we did not mean to do this the intention was not to offend (this idea) . Normally these advert posters would remain hanging on display through the month of January, however with the reaction that was given regarding the poster the decision was taken to remove them. The most the posters would remain was 3 days,. He also  apologised to all of Turkey.

     

     

     



    Edited (1/22/2010) by

    4390.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     23 Jan 2010 Sat 02:22 pm

    I haven´t seen the billboards, I just saw the commercial on tv, and I thought it was a nice idea. But then again, it was a lot of different paper moneybills, and I didn´t watch for Ataturk´s head and the bikini.  I guess if you only see his head, and a bikini under it as a still image, it will look a bit weird. I wouldn´t go so far as to say it´s a big insult or something. Just an honest mistake, taking a very popular destination and money that most people recognize from the tv-commercial.



    Edited (1/23/2010) by barba_mama

    4391.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     23 Jan 2010 Sat 03:03 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    .Just an honest mistake, taking a very popular destination and money that most people recognize from the tv-commercial.

     

     You Dutch seem to make howlers many times.Still wet behind the ears?you should bone up on ....asap

    and I think you should respect some important symbols for others if you want to gain respect in return



    Edited (1/23/2010) by ptaszek [adding]

    4392.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     23 Jan 2010 Sat 07:01 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     You Dutch seem to make howlers many times.Still wet behind the ears?you should bone up on ....asap

    and I think you should respect some important symbols for others if you want to gain respect in return

     

    Ohhhwwww, sensitive...have you seen the tv commercial? Not the still pictures, but the moving images? It will be clear that this was not some kind of intentional insult to Ataturk or something, so you should just say "Okay, I guess you all didn´t know how sensitive this is for us Turkish people, so can you please remove this image? You will, okay thank you " No need to be dramatic about it. By the way, many other heads of important people from other countries were also in the commercial, and guys in swimshorts or woman shopping.

    4393.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     23 Jan 2010 Sat 08:29 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    ..... and guys in swimshorts or woman shopping.

     

     Okay,I only hope those guys whose legs were not Xcrossed{#emotions_dlg.nargile}Seriously speaking even mockery if it was a mockery used in  an advert,or using some landmarks if it was using landmarks should have its limits and should have been reconsidered by advert sepcialists before launching it.And I hope BM you understand what I mean.Other country important symbols or icons under no circumstances should be used in mocking way.

    4394.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     23 Jan 2010 Sat 11:18 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     Okay,I only hope those guys whose legs were not Xcrossed{#emotions_dlg.nargile}Seriously speaking even mockery if it was a mockery used in  an advert,or using some landmarks if it was using landmarks should have its limits and should have been reconsidered by advert sepcialists before launching it.And I hope BM you understand what I mean.Other country important symbols or icons under no circumstances should be used in mocking way.

     

    It wasn´t mockery. The slogan was something like, "because we offer cheap holidays, you´ll have more money to spend in your holiday destination" and then you saw different types of money in those holiday destinations. I think people are becoming angry over something when they do not even fully understand what the commercial was like. I´ve just seen it again on tv a few minutes ago. This time, it was basically the same, only the Turkish lira-bill was left out. I think being focussed on a woman on bikini is the mistake people make. I´m trying to find the commercial on youtube or something to show it to you, so you can form your own opinion, but can´t find it

    I understand that the advertisment-person had to consider it, but he was thinking from a Dutch perspective. He doesn´t think about how sensitive some people can be. It wasn´t a woman in a bikini walking around with an Ataturk mask or something. It was showing money in a fun way. The advertisment person was focussed on the money and the message, and not on Ataturk´s face.

     

    4395.       Yersu
    241 posts
     24 Jan 2010 Sun 07:48 am

    I have a confession to make about this topic. I am brought up as a Kemalist person myself and whenever I hear somebody badmouthing him I feel like bashing that persons head in. I don´t know why, the hate & anger seems just so natural to me at that moment. As if someone was attacking my family members or something.

    4396.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     24 Jan 2010 Sun 02:30 pm

    I´ve noticed that And I´ve noticed a lot of people in Turkey feel that way. I understand the innitial reaction, but then you have to take a step back, take a deep breath, and look at the real situation. It has nothing to do with the Dutch being wet behind the ears, or the Dutch making howlers (do we really make that many mistakes in general?) There´s no reason for getting extremely upset, but a simple "hey, we know you made this commercial, but it actually makes us feel uncomfortable" will do. A softer reaction will also make the company change it´s commercial, but it will take a lot of tension out of a silly situation. I feel like it´s all being blown up out of proportion.

    4397.       lemon
    1374 posts
     24 Jan 2010 Sun 05:59 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I´ve noticed that And I´ve noticed a lot of people in Turkey feel that way. I understand the innitial reaction, but then you have to take a step back, take a deep breath, and look at the real situation. It has nothing to do with the Dutch being wet behind the ears, or the Dutch making howlers (do we really make that many mistakes in general?) There´s no reason for getting extremely upset, but a simple "hey, we know you made this commercial, but it actually makes us feel uncomfortable" will do. A softer reaction will also make the company change it´s commercial, but it will take a lot of tension out of a silly situation. I feel like it´s all being blown up out of proportion.

     

    eaxctly!

    thats what i myself need. {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4398.       oeince
    582 posts
     25 Jan 2010 Mon 08:38 pm

    i have found out media programme some weeks ago. It´s called Raedon TV. It is safe and its content is so wide.

     

    What cought my eye today is a tv channel on this programme called rocktelevision. It lets me listen any kind of rock music. The ones who like rock may interest with it. http://www.rocktelevision.com/



    Edited (1/25/2010) by oeince [yazı bitmeden elim çarptı :)]

    4399.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     27 Jan 2010 Wed 09:38 pm

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=twins-committed-suicide-together-2010-01-25 

    4400.       slavica
    814 posts
     27 Jan 2010 Wed 10:29 pm

     

     

     What a tragedy!Poor girls!

    4401.       Yersu
    241 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 07:42 am

     

    /heartless mode on. I would really appreciate if that news article referred to those girls´ ethnic background.

    4402.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 08:43 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

    /heartless mode on. I would really appreciate if that news article referred to those girls´ ethnic background.

     

    Why? Because then you could claim it´s not your problem? 

    4403.       Yersu
    241 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 09:59 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Why? Because then you could claim it´s not your problem? 

     

    To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.

    4404.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 09:39 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.

     

    So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!

    4405.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 09:49 pm

    I´m confused about political correctness

    My Turkish friend who lives in Holland refused to watch Dutch news for a while. She said it negatively reflected Muslims, since the news reported on Muslim men who tried to bomb stuff. She said they shouldn´t say that they are Muslims, or give more info on how these men are forced sometimes to bomb stuff. I thought to myself... the problem is not the news, the problem is the guy with the bomb...

    Anyway, she is also the kind of person who would say that this double suicide needs to be investigated further, regarding cultural background. She made such a remark before about a honour killing.

    So... I´m confused by her... when should I check into somebody´s background and when should I not... PC is hard

    4406.       lemon
    1374 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 11:13 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.

     

    i think i agree with you here.

    4407.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 11:21 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    PC is hard

     

    PC is also the reason nobody says what they mean, mean what they say or has a clue what is going on!{#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4408.       Yersu
    241 posts
     28 Jan 2010 Thu 11:44 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    i think i agree with you here.

     

    {#emotions_dlg.wtf} I didn´t expect that.

    4409.       Yersu
    241 posts
     29 Jan 2010 Fri 12:08 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!

     

    It can´t be called excluding but think about it from my perspective. I am a Turkish person, by mind and by blood. I haven´t seen or heard of any honur killings/töre suicides in my family or in my neighborhood or in my city or in my region, ever. I don´t even know how that whole stuff works, it´s completely alien to us. Now, why would I want to be associated with that?

     

    Anyway, just don´t mind me. I am very agitated about this topic and I could go on for days :S

    4410.       lemon
    1374 posts
     29 Jan 2010 Fri 03:57 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.wtf} I didn´t expect that.

     

    its just obvious. you cant do anything about some group of people. the change must come from inside.

    4411.       bydand
    755 posts
     30 Jan 2010 Sat 11:17 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!

     

     On the contrary this group by their practices exclude themselves from society.

    4412.       armegon
    1872 posts
     01 Feb 2010 Mon 05:43 pm

    Teyrebazen Azadiya Kurdistan aka TAK (the freedom falcons of Kurdistan) which is the subsidiary of PKK and which takes part acts in terrorism acts in metropolises and touristic places, had accomplished congress on January 2010 after six years and announced a war declaration threatening the metropolises and touristic resorts of Turkey. It is declared "from now on everyehere in Turkey is our battleground but foremost the metropolises of Turkey" and addressing tourists "if you do not want to be the target of ongoing war, immediately leave Turkey and give up coming to Turkey."

     

    Source  (in Turkish)

     

     



    Edited (2/1/2010) by Trudy [Inflammatory comment removed by admin]

    4413.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Feb 2010 Mon 10:13 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    Teyrebazen Azadiya Kurdistan aka TAK (the freedom falcons of Kurdistan) which is the subsidiary of PKK and which takes part acts in terrorism acts in metropolises and touristic places, had accomplished congress on January 2010 after six years and announced a war declaration threatening the metropolises and touristic resorts of Turkey. It is declared "from now on everyehere in Turkey is our battleground but foremost the metropolises of Turkey" and addressing tourists "if you do not want to be the target of ongoing war, immediately leave Turkey and give up coming to Turkey."

     

    Source  (in Turkish)

     

     

    This is alarming....and deadly serious. I tried to find information in English on this, but couldn´t find anything.  You don´t know any English sites on this, do you?

     

    hmmm....I´m curious what was edited out by Trudy too....

     

    4414.       armegon
    1872 posts
     01 Feb 2010 Mon 10:37 pm

    it seems resort workers being of mostly Kurdish origin disturbed Trudy and thought to be inflammatory, interesting. As far as i know giving only the news without personal comment and source is not welcomed in forums {#emotions_dlg.confused}...

    Quoting alameda

     

    hmmm....I´m curious what was edited out by Trudy too....

     

     

     

    4415.       armegon
    1872 posts
     01 Feb 2010 Mon 10:40 pm

    i havent searched but i dont think english news can be found now, maybe a few days later if they want to publish of course...

    Quoting alameda

     

    This is alarming....and deadly serious. I tried to find information in English on this, but couldn´t find anything.  You don´t know any English sites on this, do you? 

     

     

    4416.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     03 Feb 2010 Wed 11:30 am

    I just watched the Dutch news, and heared that the Dance Parade in Rotterdam won´t be the same anymore It used to be a parade of trucks with different DJs driving in a line around town. Free party! Woohoo!

    But because of big riots started by idiot holigans in the Rotterdam area last year, they are afraid to do it that way this year. So it´s just going to be a closed concert, with tickets in only available in pre-sale.

    ... I hate holigans! Ruining everything for everybody. And the people at city hall are cowards I want my annual party back!

    4417.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     03 Feb 2010 Wed 07:04 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I just watched the Dutch news, and heared that the Dance Parade in Rotterdam won´t be the same anymore It used to be a parade of trucks with different DJs driving in a line around town. Free party! Woohoo!

    But because of big riots started by idiot holigans in the Rotterdam area last year, they are afraid to do it that way this year. So it´s just going to be a closed concert, with tickets in only available in pre-sale.

    ... I hate holigans! Ruining everything for everybody. And the people at city hall are cowards I want my annual party back!

     

    No more Dance Parade? They always came by very loudly about 100 metre from my house! I´ll miss the noise....  

    4418.       sonunda
    5004 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 05:54 pm

    If you multiply 13837 by your age and then 73 (13837xyour agex73) the result is...............

    4419.       Yersu
    241 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 06:09 pm

    I am no more shocked by honor killings, but this one seems to be an extreme case of inhumanity so it caught my eye. It will probably find its place in foreign media as "Turkish" honour killing anyway so here goes:

     

    http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25053450/

     

    Medine Memi (16) who has been missing for 4 months, was found buried under the henhouse of her house. The autopsy indicates that she was alive and conscious at the time of burial. Father Ayhan Memi and grandfather Fethi Memi were taken under custody, they stated she might have had some male friends and they were discontent with it.

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}{#emotions_dlg.applause}

    -Burying your daughter of 16 years old alive.

    -Living, eating & sleeping in 5 meters radius of it for months.

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}

    4420.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 06:51 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

    I am no more shocked by honor killings, but this one seems to be an extreme case of inhumanity so it caught my eye. It will probably find its place in foreign media as "Turkish" honour killing anyway so here goes:

     

    http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25053450/

     

    Medine Memi (16) who has been missing for 4 months, was found buried under the henhouse of her house. The autopsy indicates that she was alive and conscious at the time of burial. Father Ayhan Memi and grandfather Fethi Memi were taken under custody, they stated she might have had some male friends and they were discontent with it.

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}{#emotions_dlg.applause}

    -Burying your daughter of 16 years old alive.

    -Living, eating & sleeping in 5 meters radius of it for months.

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}

     

    These ´people´ need to be punished hard. I would applaude if they were sentenced to life in prison. And yes, it happened in Turkey so the press will call it a Turkish crime. (If something happens in, let´s say Texas, the press will call it an American crime, not a Texan crime.)

     

    But Yersu, you know what I find so typical in your postings? The way you seem so sure that events like this are only done by Kurds and never by Turks. Does that mean Turks are not capable of doing such horrible things?

     

    4421.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

    I am no more shocked by honor killings, but this one seems to be an extreme case of inhumanity so it caught my eye. It will probably find its place in foreign media as "Turkish" honour killing anyway so here goes:

     

    http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25053450/

     

    Medine Memi (16) who has been missing for 4 months, was found buried under the henhouse of her house. The autopsy indicates that she was alive and conscious at the time of burial. Father Ayhan Memi and grandfather Fethi Memi were taken under custody, they stated she might have had some male friends and they were discontent with it.

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}{#emotions_dlg.applause}

    -Burying your daughter of 16 years old alive.

    -Living, eating & sleeping in 5 meters radius of it for months.

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}

     

     I choose not to comment on the cultural identity of the family of this victim simply because it doesn´t matter.  If you are a 16 year old girl being buried alive, do you care that the bastard that is buring you is a Kurd, Turk, American, Chrisitan, Muslim...NO!  Very simply put these are animals - not worthy of cultural classification.  They belong with the lowliest of beasts.  It is in times like this that I am grateful for my religion....it is a small comfort to imagine a special place in hell for these animals. 

    4422.       Yersu
    241 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 08:16 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     I choose not to comment on the cultural identity of the family of this victim simply because it doesn´t matter.  If you are a 16 year old girl being buried alive, do you care that the bastard that is buring you is a Kurd, Turk, American, Chrisitan, Muslim...NO!  Very simply put these are animals - not worthy of cultural classification.  They belong with the lowliest of beasts.  It is in times like this that I am grateful for my religion....it is a small comfort to imagine a special place in hell for these animals. 

     

    Dear Elizabeth;

     

    A serial killer or a psychopath can be called an animal, as it is personal urges or whatever, but personal. But this is not.

     

    I am tired of listening to clueless people, generally in good faith though, telling this is related to education or economical levels, but in many situations this is proven wrong. There are organizations(NGO) that regard the feudal islamist lifestyle, töre, as their identity.(the Hezbollah/Kurd-Islam fraction) They even have weekly magazines. What would you think about a group of people who have enough economic power and ability to print a magazine, or read it; but yet support töre?

     

    So no; this can not be regarded as an individual event.

    4423.       Yersu
    241 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    These ´people´ need to be punished hard. I would applaude if they were sentenced to life in prison. And yes, it happened in Turkey so the press will call it a Turkish crime. (If something happens in, let´s say Texas, the press will call it an American crime, not a Texan crime.)

     

    But Yersu, you know what I find so typical in your postings? The way you seem so sure that events like this are only done by Kurds and never by Turks. Does that mean Turks are not capable of doing such horrible things?

     

    Dear Trudy;

     

    If you return and look at my post you will see that I haven´t used the word "Kurd" in it. Can you please explain why you thought I was implying they were Kurdish, rather than let´s say Laz, Zaza or Circassians?

    4424.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 08:27 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

    Dear Trudy;

     

    If you return and look at my post you will see that I haven´t used the word "Kurd" in it. Can you please explain why you thought I was implying they were Kurdish, rather than let´s say Laz, Zaza or Circassians?

     

    You weren´t implying that this time but you said it before.

    4425.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 08:38 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    Dear Elizabeth;

     

    A serial killer or a psychopath can be called an animal, as it is personal urges or whatever, but personal. But this is not.

     

    I am tired of listening to clueless people, generally in good faith though, telling this is related to education or economical levels, but in many situations this is proven wrong. There are organizations(NGO) that regard the feudal islamist lifestyle, töre, as their identity.(the Hezbollah/Kurd-Islam fraction) They even have weekly magazines. What would you think about a group of people who have enough economic power and ability to print a magazine, or read it; but yet support töre?

     

    So no; this can not be regarded as an individual event.

     

     Be that as it may, Yersu, I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you.  I am quite simply saying that the culture or ethnic identity of these people in now way affects how horrible the crime is. 

    4426.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     04 Feb 2010 Thu 08:53 pm

    The following YouTube video is made by Dutch people complaining about multiculturalism, immigration and yes, Muslims. It´s one of the unfortunately many ideas people in The Netherlands have, happily still a minority. When I see a video like this, I´m very much ashamed to be Dutch. Not all Dutch think like this, not all Dutch have lost their tolerance and openness. 

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BTdlNtcWBg

     

    (NB. Most of the video is in English, a few parts are spoken Dutch. If you like to know what is said, please ask.)



    Edited (2/4/2010) by Trudy [Adding info.]

    4427.       Jae
    37 posts
     05 Feb 2010 Fri 12:26 am

    If we all beleive the press of this world without finding the facts: there is no hope for mankind no matter what creed , colour or relgion

    Quote:

    Add quoted text here

    4428.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     05 Feb 2010 Fri 11:19 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    Dear Elizabeth;

     

    A serial killer or a psychopath can be called an animal, as it is personal urges or whatever, but personal. But this is not.

     

    I am tired of listening to clueless people, generally in good faith though, telling this is related to education or economical levels, but in many situations this is proven wrong. There are organizations(NGO) that regard the feudal islamist lifestyle, töre, as their identity.(the Hezbollah/Kurd-Islam fraction) They even have weekly magazines. What would you think about a group of people who have enough economic power and ability to print a magazine, or read it; but yet support töre?

     

    So no; this can not be regarded as an individual event.

     

     

    Double standard alert!

     

    When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here),  does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!

    One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided {#emotions_dlg.think}) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries  

     

    Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.

    4429.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     05 Feb 2010 Fri 04:04 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     

    Double standard alert!

     

    When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here),  does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!

    One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided {#emotions_dlg.think}) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries  

     

    Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.

     {#emotions_dlg.flowers} 

     

    4430.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     05 Feb 2010 Fri 06:54 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     

    Double standard alert!

     

    When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here),  does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!

    One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided {#emotions_dlg.think}) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries  

     

    Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.

     

    Great post, BM!

    4431.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     05 Feb 2010 Fri 07:13 pm

    200 ´honour´ killings in only 2009!!!

     

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/episode-guide/series-2009/episode-3

     

    Even one by a man who probably wasn´t able to consummate his marriage and killed his wife to spare his honour!!! {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

    4432.       ally81
    461 posts
     05 Feb 2010 Fri 08:33 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    200 ´honour´ killings in only 2009!!!

     

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/episode-guide/series-2009/episode-3

     

    Even one by a man who probably wasn´t able to consummate his marriage and killed his wife to spare his honour!!! {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

     

     I watched this a couple of months ago, was a pretty harrowing watch, some of the horrendous stories just leaves me at a loss for words....

    4433.       Yersu
    241 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 12:22 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     

    Double standard alert!

     

    When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here),  does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!

    One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided {#emotions_dlg.think}) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries  

     

    Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.

     

    First of all; I am not claiming Turks are angels, we have murderers, rapists and thiefs amongst Turks as there are among every other nation out there. However; "honor killings" and "female circumsizion" are almost totally Kurdish phenomeons. These occur in the Kurdish populated regions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria; but not amongst Turks, Arabs or Persians. Let´s get this straight please.

     

    And please; not the "my Kurdish(Persian, Turkish, German) friend" argument again. We call this "benim Kürt arkadaşlarım da var" argument and it is far older and tired PC bs than you can ever imagine.

    If there are some individuals within a society that have the feature "X"; this doesn´t mean every single one of them have it. But it for sure means that "X" occurs among this society, to some degree. I can´t really understand why you come up with your Kurdish friend at this point, because if a few bad individuals can not account for every Kurd out there, neither a good one does.

     

    As for "double standards", I have none of it. There is nothing wrong with stating the obvious. E.g. . Ever-increasing radicalism among Muslims is becoming a threat for the whole world. E.g. Neverending feudal Kurd-Islamist culture is getting out of hand in Turkey.

     

    Btw.; just as I mentioned this news seems to have found its way to global media. Here; quoting a fellow Turkish Class site member on another thread:

     

    "Have you heard that a Turkish girl was buried alive because she chatted with guys? How could their male relatives so cruel? "

     

    http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45500

     

    Put yourself in my shoes, and you might be able to understand why I am so much agitated, and so ashamed of getting belittled in a site that is supposed to teach my language.



    Edited (2/6/2010) by Yersu

    4434.       armegon
    1872 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 02:27 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Who said all Kurds are supporters of their feudal system? But i can say many of them are the slaves of that feudal system, it is how they directed by their agas who are now in mostly Turkish parliament but those even as a respect avoid to play Turkish anathem in the opening of their congress.

     

    By the way it is not the Turks firstly who do not want to be put in same box but the Kurds and their fellow foreign supporters as they always emphasize that Turks have to show respect to their customs. I know EU parliamenters who firstly visited Diyarbakır instead of Ankara impudently. So where is double standards? Sorry but your argument simply falls downWink...

    4435.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 11:54 am

    Sometimes people clearly say things without literally using the words. It doesn´t require much reading between the lines. I´ve just grown weary of the subdued Kurd-bashing. This was ment to take a look at yourself for a change, but guess it didn´t work much.



    Edited (2/6/2010) by barba_mama

    4436.       armegon
    1872 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 02:27 pm

    Yes, same applies to some people as well, no need to read between the lines, and i think Turks are fed up with being scapegoat of anything. We also have good saying like "Gözünün çapağına bakmaz, elaleme şaşı der."

    4437.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 03:33 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Sometimes people clearly say things without literally using the words. It doesn´t require much reading between the lines. I´ve just grown weary of the subdued Kurd-bashing. This was ment to take a look at yourself for a change, but guess it didn´t work much.

     

     

     

    it`s so ironic that you are talking about "Kurd bashing"

     

    just a few days ago a Kurdish man burried her daughter alive in a chicken cage in Kahta which is a Kurdish province of Adiyaman which is also a Kurdish city.

     

     

     

    and these comments are from the quardian news

     

     

     

     

    "and will anything happen to the police who refused to protect her after she reported being beaten repeatedly, or is that all right because turkish women are the property of their male relatives?"

    "turkish are all misogynists. take a look at their common laws. everything works against women."

    "the many turkish men are way too preoccupied what goes on in their underpants that even a pure innocent life has no meaning for these crazy bunch.
    don´t let these guys enter eu please!"

    "why is it that britain is such a vocal supporter of turkish eu membership? do we want or need a people in our club whose culture permits of a mindset whereby it is acceptable to bury a young girl alive for the sake of "honour"?"

    "some countries appear stuck in the middle ages.
    if turks want to join the eec they need a massive overhaul of the way they conduct themselves."

    "backward country. i pray they stay out of eu. why so many turks in uk now?"

     

     

     

     

     

    yeah sure you are fed up with "Kurd bashing". but if its "Turk bashing" even when the criminals are Kurdish it`s ridiculously fine.



    Edited (2/6/2010) by Uzun Ihsan

    4438.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 03:42 pm

    and the murder is labelled as a "Turkish honor killing" by the western media. just what I would expect. any body wants to read the comments? don`t worry there is no "Kurd bashing" in them.

     

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Turkey-Honour-Killing-Medine-Memi-16-Buried-



    Edited (2/6/2010) by Uzun Ihsan

    4439.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 03:44 pm

    When I notice Turk bashing I also address these people and try to make them aware of what they are doing. Two wrongs don´t make a right in the real world, only in mathematical theory

     

    By the way, you actually totally pointed out what I call a double standard. Being angry when somebody makes comments about all Turks in a negative way, but at the same times painting a single, negative picture on Kurdish people. How about something positive for a change?



    Edited (2/6/2010) by barba_mama

    4440.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 03:47 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    When I notice Turk bashing I also address these people and try to make them aware of what they are doing. Two wrongs don´t make a right in the real world, only in mathematical theory

     

    so you will inform these people that its not Turks but Kurds who carry out honor killings in Turkey?

     

     

    you can start with informing  the commentators of the news above if you are honest.

    4441.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 03:49 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    When I notice Turk bashing I also address these people and try to make them aware of what they are doing. Two wrongs don´t make a right in the real world, only in mathematical theory

     

    By the way, you actually totally pointed out what I call a double standard. Being angry when somebody makes comments about all Turks in a negative way, but at the same times painting a single, negative picture on Kurdish people. How about something positive for a change?

     

     

     

     

    ahhaha look who is talking about double standars, your people accuse Turks even for the crimes of Kurds to make them look like angelic and its us being hypocrites.



    Edited (2/6/2010) by Uzun Ihsan

    4442.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 03:50 pm

    just wondering where this love of westerners for Kurds comes from?

     

    Iraq by any chance?



    Edited (2/6/2010) by Uzun Ihsan
    Edited (2/6/2010) by Uzun Ihsan

    4443.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 09:11 pm

    Two men, disguised as women wearing burkas, raided a post office in a suburb of Paris, France today. They took 4500 euro with them.

     

    Source (in French)

    4444.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 11:00 pm

    Robber disguised as FedEx delivery man takes $600,000 worth of diamonds from north Dallas jewelry store

     

    source

     

    Those evil Fed-ex guys!{#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4445.       Uzun Ihsan
    8 posts
     06 Feb 2010 Sat 11:24 pm

    advertisement failure{#emotions_dlg.lol}

     

    http://i.imgur.com/hmFfo.jpg

    4446.       armegon
    1872 posts
     07 Feb 2010 Sun 08:53 am

    Does history repeat itself? The period that Turkey pass through today with the ergenekon lie, was very similarly experienced during the last time of Ottomans...

     

    Good brief analysis of history (in Turkish)

    4447.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     07 Feb 2010 Sun 04:32 pm

     

    Quoting Uzun Ihsan

     

     

     

     

     

    ahhaha look who is talking about double standars, your people accuse Turks even for the crimes of Kurds to make them look like angelic and its us being hypocrites.

     

    Kurds are not angels...but they are not devils either. I´m just saying that Kurds are people, all individual people, and not some kind of big collective who´s hobby it is to slash down women.

     

    And I don´t read the Guardian, but I do read the comments on this forum, so it seems more logical for me to comment on stuff I do read instead of stuff I don´t read. And the newspapers that I did read on this issue of the girl buried alive, mentioned facts only. That it happened in Turkey, which it did. It didn´t say anything about the cultural background of the men (it didn´t say Turkish men buried a girl).

     

    I´m just saying that you shouldn´t throw a entire group of people into one big pile of negative prejudices. By the way...who is "my" people...what do you really know about my background?

    4448.       armegon
    1872 posts
     07 Feb 2010 Sun 05:06 pm

    Maybe he will reply to you when he gets a new nick in near future ...hey barba what do you think there are remarkable rumours that Israel will attack Iran as soon as the snow melts?{#emotions_dlg.confused}

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I´m just saying that you shouldn´t throw a entire group of people into one big pile of negative prejudices. By the way...who is "my" people...what do you really know about my background?

     

     

    4449.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     08 Feb 2010 Mon 10:10 pm

    Picture of a very busy man.....

     

    4450.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 12:56 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    Maybe he will reply to you when he gets a new nick in near future ...hey barba what do you think there are remarkable rumours that Israel will attack Iran as soon as the snow melts?{#emotions_dlg.confused}

     

     

     

     

    I think Israel has no business attacking Iran. Sure the Iranian government threatens to whipe Israel of the map, and sure they have recently anounced some alarming nuclear news... But I wonder if this nuclear threat to Israel is so realistic, and I think there is no solid ground for starting some kind of dangerous war at the moment, which would escalade in pro and con Israel-countries starting an even bigger mess.

    But luckily there´s always snow in the North pole (global warming is taking longer then we thought ) so we won´t have to worry for now

    4451.       Yersu
    241 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 05:08 pm

     

    I found these photos posted on some forum to make fun of Turkish people, but I think there is nothing to be ashamed of in them some of them are hilarious

     

    Eclipse in Antalya:

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This one cracked me up:

     

    I mean what the hell..Beating on metals is some kinda pagan tradition or something to make evil spirits go away, I can understand that but shooting at the sun? {#emotions_dlg.lol}

     

    4452.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 09:24 pm

    absolutely loved your pics!!!

     

    what are they covering themselves with in the pic #6?

     

    i didnt know the turkish police shields are as good as sunglasses! {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4453.       Yersu
    241 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 09:29 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    absolutely loved your pics!!!

     

    what are they covering themselves with in the pic #6?

     

    i didnt know the turkish police shields are as good as sunglasses! {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    I have no idea tbh. As for the policemen, I think that blue paint around the word "polis" is semi-transparent or something.

     

    4454.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 09:31 pm

    {#emotions_dlg.applause}

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    I have no idea tbh. As for the policemen, I think that blue paint around the word "polis" is semi-transparent or something.

     

     

     

    4455.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 10:41 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    i didnt know the turkish police shields are as good as sunglasses! {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

     They are sunglasses, sleds, doors, window shutters, table tops, water collectors, if you have enough, you can even build a small shelter out of them.  PLEAZZZZZE, lemon, these are TURKISH policemen....they are not ordinary policemen!  Did somebody squeeze your head again?{#emotions_dlg.lol}

    4456.       ReyhanL
    1961 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 11:15 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     They are sunglasses, sleds, doors, window shutters, table tops, water collectors, if you have enough, you can even build a small shelter out of them.  PLEAZZZZZE, lemon, these are TURKISH policemen....they are not ordinary policemen!  Did somebody squeeze your head again?{#emotions_dlg.lol}

     

     .... and, lets not forger they are also solar eclipse glasses.

    4457.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 Feb 2010 Tue 11:35 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     They are sunglasses, sleds, doors, window shutters, table tops, water collectors, if you have enough, you can even build a small shelter out of them.  PLEAZZZZZE, lemon, these are TURKISH policemen....they are not ordinary policemen!  Did somebody squeeze your head again?{#emotions_dlg.lol}

     

    {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    loved it, liz!

    your posts aer as usually fantastico!

    4458.       armegon
    1872 posts
     12 Feb 2010 Fri 04:18 pm

    "I promise that if i am elected, Iran will not acquire nuclear arms, and this implies everything necessary to carry out this" Benjamin Netanyahu said before elections. This is another mask similar to the mask used to invade Iraq and shows how zionists created a fear empire all over the world as showing Iran powerful. But i think i agree with you, there had been an economic crisis last year though any of these countries did not decrease defence expenses and arming. And also the countries that have investements in Iran such as France, Russia, China, Korea, Germany etc will not be happy since they sell a product to Iran ten times more expensive because of ongoing embargo.

    Lets wait till the snow melts, it takes time in Iran

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    I think Israel has no business attacking Iran. Sure the Iranian government threatens to whipe Israel of the map, and sure they have recently anounced some alarming nuclear news... But I wonder if this nuclear threat to Israel is so realistic, and I think there is no solid ground for starting some kind of dangerous war at the moment, which would escalade in pro and con Israel-countries starting an even bigger mess.

    But luckily there´s always snow in the North pole (global warming is taking longer then we thought ) so we won´t have to worry for now

     

     

    4459.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     13 Feb 2010 Sat 10:20 am

    Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say

     

    Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.

     

    The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.

     

    “It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”

     

    More

     

     

    ***********

     

    Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough? 

    4460.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     13 Feb 2010 Sat 11:52 am

    Wow! What a stunning view, this frozen waterfall

    4461.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     13 Feb 2010 Sat 12:03 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough? 

     

     They are moaning. The body scan is first checked by a computer. Only when the computer notices something that is out of the ordinary, a human is called to check the person. If it´s a woman who´s scanned, a woman will check her. If it´s a man who´s scanned, a man will check him.

    In Islam it is not "forbidden" or something for a professional to see you naked. How else can you be checked by your doctor? And the scans don´t look like you are literally standing their naked. It´s not like porn or something. The image is strange looking, without colour.

    Anyway, if I had to choose between a computer checking my image, or a woman touching my body, I choose the computer. I prefer people not touching my body like that! I think these people are moaning, since they already have the choice to say yes or no. Why make it a fatwa? Islam was formed as an open religion, that people by themselves could practice, without having to speak out a rule for every little thing. It always left room for people to make up their own minds.... and now... a fatwa on a body scanner, and a fatwa that needs a high level of critique in my opinion... it´s silly!

    4462.       Yersu
    241 posts
     13 Feb 2010 Sat 12:10 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

    Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say

     

    Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.

     

    The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.

     

    “It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”

     

     

    More

     

     

    ***********

     

    Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough? 

     

    What a load of bs... Someone has to bring these Islamist crackheads to line. I am afraid with the way things are going now, these people will alienate themselves and agitate others more and more. When it all comes cracking down, the progressive and humanitarian Muslims, which I think are the only real Muslims anyway, will also be a target.

    4463.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     13 Feb 2010 Sat 03:34 pm

    A court in drought-plagued Malawi has jailed a man accused of casting a spell that blocked rain from falling on his neighbour´s field, police say.

    The court sentenced Chikumbeni Mwanatheu, 35, to two months in prison with hard labour after he admitted a charge of witchcraft, police spokesman Augustus Nkhwazi said.

    Mwanatheu had pleaded guilty to a charge of "conduct likely to cause a breach of peace" after he boasted that he had prevented rain from falling on his neighbour´s field, the spokesman said.

     

    source

    _________________________________________________

    _________________________________________________

     

    I wouldn´t mind having him sent here, we could do with a few weeks without rain in Ireland lol

    4464.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     13 Feb 2010 Sat 08:59 pm

    Father forces his toddler daughter to recite the Koran.

     

    http://www.atheistmedia.com/2010/02/toddler-forced-to-recite-koran.html

     

    ***********

     

    Some parents shouldn´t have had kids! (And yes, I would protest as hard as it weren´t the Koran but another holy book but as the talk show host proudly announces: ´only Muslim children can do this.´ {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

    4465.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 02:52 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Wow! What a stunning view, this frozen waterfall

     

    Amazing and beautiful. Thank you for the link.

    4466.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 03:21 am

    naked body scan

     

    Well you may not mind, but I certainly mind. When is enough enough? The fact of the matter is they do expose people to radiation, expose the naked body and with indentations from invisible garments.........{#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    If the intellegence had been used, many in the 911 group would have been caught, and the crotch bomber would not have even been on an airplane.

     

    I strongly object to this thing....then have we even looked at who would get the contract$$$$ to provide them to airports?.............and they are not really that accurate anyway.

    full scan failure

     

    "Then there´s the awkward bit: While these things do certainly reveal your weapons...they also reveal your body. In detail. Down to the furry bits. And, given that they´re going to have to be human-operated (with some computer assistance, for sure, but still man-in-the-loop) like the baggage machines, that means you´re effectively going to be taking your clothes off for a TSA guy/gal (and how long before there´s a law suit about there being no TSA girls on duty to scan women for a particular flight?) Yup--that´s a stranger, a government employee. And one who´s almost certainly empowered to arrange for you to be thrown in jail if you object or are, in these stupidly super-sensitive times, deemed as being "uncooperative.""

     

     

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     They are moaning. The body scan is first checked by a computer. Only when the computer notices something that is out of the ordinary, a human is called to check the person. If it´s a woman who´s scanned, a woman will check her. If it´s a man who´s scanned, a man will check him.

    In Islam it is not "forbidden" or something for a professional to see you naked. How else can you be checked by your doctor? And the scans don´t look like you are literally standing their naked. It´s not like porn or something. The image is strange looking, without colour.

    Anyway, if I had to choose between a computer checking my image, or a woman touching my body, I choose the computer. I prefer people not touching my body like that! I think these people are moaning, since they already have the choice to say yes or no. Why make it a fatwa? Islam was formed as an open religion, that people by themselves could practice, without having to speak out a rule for every little thing. It always left room for people to make up their own minds.... and now... a fatwa on a body scanner, and a fatwa that needs a high level of critique in my opinion... it´s silly!

     

     



    Edited (2/15/2010) by alameda [edit]

    4467.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 12:31 pm

    I certainly mind as well, radiation and such invasion of privacy! Not only I´m sure there are better short term ways to deal with such situations, but also simply pull out of the rest of the world, stop killing people, use the military budget for healthcare and education, and there won´t be any terrorism to ´fight´.

    4468.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 04:03 pm

    I also mind body scanners, not so much of a bother for me but I´d hate my child to be scanned like this. We all know that it´s usually people that account for abuse so how soon before naked body scans will be uploaded ont he internet? It makes my blood boil to think how risky it may be if the database gets in the hands of some lunatic...{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    4469.       Yersu
    241 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 07:14 pm

    Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

    4470.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 07:25 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

    Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

     

    The doctor I can choose myself, I even can insist to take X-rays home with me. I don´t have these choices at a gate.

    4471.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 08:02 pm

     

    Quoting Yersu

    Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

     

    For one, it is rare any legitimate doctor would have to, or request t, see one´s naked body.  Doctors look at specific areas of a body, not the whole naked body at once.

     

    For two, one chooses to see a doctor and has some choice in what doctor they will see. 

     

    For three, there is a legal guarantee of privacy in seeing a doctor.

     

    For four, one has the legal right to refuse treatment, if they so desire.

     

    It is clearly a violation of one´s right to privacy.



    Edited (2/15/2010) by alameda [add]
    Edited (2/15/2010) by alameda ["]

    4472.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 10:48 pm

    Well, yersu, for one thing, doctors do not take your nude pictures, let alone store them in a database a huge number of other doctors have access to...

    4473.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     15 Feb 2010 Mon 11:21 pm

    do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}but still their problem not mine...

    4474.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 12:06 am

     

    Quoting ptaszek

    do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}but still their problem not mine...

     

    you´re free to go ahead and get yourself x-rayed as much as you want. Wink

    4475.       lemon
    1374 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 12:27 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    you´re free to go ahead and get yourself x-rayed as much as you want. Wink

     

    then what is your solution to this?

    4476.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 01:41 am

     

    Quoting ptaszek

    do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}but still their problem not mine...

     

    I´ve no problem being seen naked (no, i won´t post pictures lol). But like I said, I don´t want my son to be seen naked and risk having his photo uploaded on a paedophil´s website. Also, it would stir my suspictions whether or not to get scanned if I were pregnant...

    4477.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 08:44 am

     

    Quoting lemon

    then what is your solution to this?

     

    my solution is to create two-way tvs - you see them and they see you and monitor all your activity. an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.

    4478.       armegon
    1872 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 10:12 am

     

    {#emotions_dlg.scared} So you think this is not the violation of privacy, according to some documentaries future slaves will be created by this method, you can be volunteer as a test subject for this ...

    Quoting catwoman

    an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.

     

     

    4479.       lemon
    1374 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 06:01 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    my solution is to create two-way tvs - you see them and they see you and monitor all your activity. an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.

     

    on a serious note, how that tv is supposed to work? how that tv would scan your hidden weapon or anything else? and why would i want to see what airport security does or doesnt? if i can monitor security, then they are not security anymore. those who monitor cant monitor all your activity.

     

    good joke!

    4480.       Yersu
    241 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 08:07 pm

    Thanks for your opinions but I still don´t think there is any violation of privacy here. I am sure there already is a term for what I am going to say but I don´t know it: I believe it can not be considered a violation of privacy as long as the observer does not have any connection or specific interest in the observee. No one would be disturbed about this whole scanning issue if it was completely executed by a computer, because the observer, in this case the computer, would not be concerned about you. But obviously; image recognition software isn´t that mature as of now, thus there is need for human assistance. So the securtiy guard looks at the picture before his eyes, not really different than what the computer does, and tries to recognize shapes in it. To the observer it isn´t a naked body, it´s a mathematical entity, a bunch of pixels which need to be identified.

     

    Let a program which fills a picture with random pixels run for an infinite amount of time; and some of its output will be your naked photos, of all sorts, some even naughtier than you can ever imagine. There will even be one that shows you riding a donkey on the top of Eiffel tower. It´s simply data.



    Edited (2/16/2010) by Yersu
    Edited (2/16/2010) by Yersu

    4481.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 10:28 pm

    The Latest Discussion section has turned out to be the Language Section...{#emotions_dlg.doh}

    4482.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     16 Feb 2010 Tue 11:07 pm

    My eye caught some snow today, but nothing caught my eye itself {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    4483.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     17 Feb 2010 Wed 03:58 am

     

    Quoting Yersu

     

     

    What a load of bs... Someone has to bring these Islamist crackheads to line. I am afraid with the way things are going now, these people will alienate themselves and agitate others more and more. When it all comes cracking down, the progressive and humanitarian Muslims, which I think are the only real Muslims anyway, will also be a target.

     

     I wonder if I could get away with saying this...exactely my thoughts!{#emotions_dlg.ty_ty}

    4484.       libralady
    5152 posts
     18 Feb 2010 Thu 02:31 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say

     

    Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.

     

    The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.

     

    “It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”

     

    More

     

     

    ***********

     

    Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough? 

     

     I think that many countries will still prefer the full body search - this will only show up where someone has got something a bit unusual in his or her pants  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} or eaten a rather odd lunch {#emotions_dlg.ninja}  Do you think this could be a way to cure obesity??? {#emotions_dlg.yes}

     

     

    Oh and I think they are moaning .......... again!  They are not in use yet (I don´t think!)



    Edited (2/18/2010) by libralady [Added a bit more]

    4485.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 Feb 2010 Thu 08:09 pm

    French Politicians Blast Fast Food Chain´s New Halal Menu

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586579,00.html?test=latestnews

     

     

    I am wondering why politicians are even commenting publically about a private business´s decision to serve halal food.  It is not like they are saying that non-muslims are not welcome.  Is it a hardship not to get bacon on your burger?  Seems like much ado about nothing! 

    4486.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     18 Feb 2010 Thu 10:14 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    French Politicians Blast Fast Food Chain´s New Halal Menu

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586579,00.html?test=latestnews

     

     

    I am wondering why politicians are even commenting publically about a private business´s decision to serve halal food.  It is not like they are saying that non-muslims are not welcome.  Is it a hardship not to get bacon on your burger?  Seems like much ado about nothing! 

     

     

    I don´t think the halal menu is a big deal, and most French people don´t give a hoot either. It´s only in 8 of the 350 restaurants. Only the extreme right-winged (aka RACIST) politicians seem to complaint about it. So, there isn´t much ado about it! No customers complained. I don´t get angry when a menu only offers halal, and I don´t get angry when a menu only offers fish or only vegetarian either If I want a piece of pork I´ll just go somewhere else, and most normal French people are the same, I think.

    4487.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Feb 2010 Sat 01:08 pm

    What´s the deal with the Dutch gov´t collapsing today???? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4488.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Feb 2010 Sat 01:26 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    What´s the deal with the Dutch gov´t collapsing today???? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    No idea. I heard it on the radio a couple of hours ago. They were arguing about soldiers in Afghanistan, should ´we´ stay or not. Now we have to wait, will this administration continue as a minority in parliament or do we get new elections? 

    4489.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Feb 2010 Sat 07:33 pm

    Ugh... AGAIN?! This is the 4th (!!!!) government colapsing under this president... I´m too young to be voting for the 4th time... I´m in my mid twenties!

     

    I´m so not looking forward to getting into the whole election thing again, trying to figure out who to vote for now. Can´t I just cast one anti-vote instead? (Anti-right winged a-hole Wilders vote ofcourse )

    4490.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     20 Feb 2010 Sat 07:36 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Ugh... AGAIN?! This is the 4th (!!!!) government colapsing under this president... I´m too young to be voting for the 4th time... I´m in my mid twenties!

     

    I´m so not looking forward to getting into the whole election thing again, trying to figure out who to vote for now. Can´t I just cast one anti-vote instead? (Anti-right winged a-hole Wilders vote ofcourse )

     

    And rumours go that the next administration will be Bakellende V...... {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

    4491.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Feb 2010 Sat 07:41 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    And rumours go that the next administration will be Bakellende V...... {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

     

     NOOOOOO :´(

    4492.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     21 Feb 2010 Sun 11:04 pm

    A news piece on Dutch tv caught my eyes... there´s a chance you´re breathing in toxic fumes when you´re flying,....nice....

     

    http://www.factnotfictionfilms.com/doco.html

    Look at Welcome aboard toxic airlines

     

    Or just google bleed air.

    4493.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     21 Feb 2010 Sun 11:32 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    A news piece on Dutch tv caught my eyes... there´s a chance you´re breathing in toxic fumes when you´re flying,....nice....

     

    http://www.factnotfictionfilms.com/doco.html

    Look at Welcome aboard toxic airlines

     

    Or just google bleed air.

     

    On a preview text I read it was only in the cockpit (not that that´s not horrible enough) but do you mean these fumes are also in the cabin? 

    4494.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     22 Feb 2010 Mon 09:06 pm

    Gold! Gold! And gold again!

     

    First Sven, than Mark and now Ireen!!

     

    Wowwwwww!!!!

    4495.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 08:27 pm

    Another reason to give up smoking!!

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587241,00.html

     



    Edited (2/23/2010) by Elisabeth

    4496.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 08:30 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Another reason to give up smoking!!

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587241,00.html

     

     

    I won´t stop. (At least not for thát!)

    4497.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 08:32 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    I won´t stop. (At least not for thát!)

     

     You are already smarter than most people....you can afford to give up some IQ points!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4498.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 08:44 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     You are already smarter than most people....you can afford to give up some IQ points!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    Awwww, thank you! 

    4499.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 10:04 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    On a preview text I read it was only in the cockpit (not that that´s not horrible enough) but do you mean these fumes are also in the cabin? 

     

     Yes, also in the cabin. Nice idea, isn´t it

    4500.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 10:13 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     Yes, also in the cabin. Nice idea, isn´t it

     

    I´ll fly to Turkey in a few weeks time...... 

    4501.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Feb 2010 Tue 11:43 pm

    Such a sad story....

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=kurdish-girl-reportedly-committed-suicide-in-eastern-city-2010-01-18

    4502.       lemon
    1374 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 12:08 am

     

     

    lis, it was discussed here previously.

     

    wake up.

    4503.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 12:24 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

    I´ll fly to Turkey in a few weeks time...... 

     

    That sounds awesome, what part of Turkey will you be visiting?

    4504.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 08:02 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That sounds awesome, what part of Turkey will you be visiting?

     

    Istanbul.

    4505.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 11:41 am

    Egypt has a 70% literacy rate, and Saudi Arabia 80%! {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

    4506.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 11:51 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Egypt has a 70% literacy rate, and Saudi Arabia 80%! {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

     

     interesting,what  source was the poll?and what was the basis?the number of school leavers?graduates?illitarate/literate compared to the total number of population?

    4507.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 12:11 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

    interesting,what  source was the poll?and what was the basis?the number of school leavers?graduates?illitarate/literate compared to the total number of population?

     

    UN development program report, 2009

    I dont know the answers to you other q´s.

    4508.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 12:13 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    UN development program report, 2009

    I dont know the answers to you other q´s.

     

     Thank you,I will check the document.Just wondering what % is in other countries.

    4509.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 07:27 pm

     

    Quoting ptaszek

     

     

     Thank you,I will check the document.Just wondering what % is in other countries.

     

    I´m very sure the ´facts´ in that file are not correct. I know from earlier years they say that the literacy rate in my country is 99%. But...... how about the 1.5 million illiterates on a population of around 16.4 million? 

    4510.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 07:43 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    I´m very sure the ´facts´ in that file are not correct. I know from earlier years they say that the literacy rate in my country is 99%. But...... how about the 1.5 million illiterates on a population of around 16.4 million? 

     

    who is illiterate in Holland Trudy? is it immigrants from some countries? where did you get the 1.5 million number from? just curious.

    4511.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 07:54 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    who is illiterate in Holland Trudy? is it immigrants from some countries? where did you get the 1.5 million number from? just curious.

     

    The numbers were published a few years ago (in 2006 I think) by a special committee - president of it is Princess Laurentine. About 0.5 million are immigrants, the other million are people born in my country. They are sometimes what we call ´functional literate´ meaning they can write their names and a few common, often used words but they are not able to read the timetable of a bus, the advertisements in the supermarket, the information leaflet of medication let alone a newspaper. They can´t fill in forms or write a letter. In my classes are quite a few illiterate immigrants and there have also natives applied for courses. 

    4512.       elenagabriela
    2040 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 08:42 pm

    For the ones always in a rush - try Titanic ( the 5 sec version)

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSdU8tbcHY

    4513.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 09:11 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    The numbers were published a few years ago (in 2006 I think) by a special committee - president of it is Princess Laurentine. About 0.5 million are immigrants, the other million are people born in my country. They are sometimes what we call ´functional literate´ meaning they can write their names and a few common, often used words but they are not able to read the timetable of a bus, the advertisements in the supermarket, the information leaflet of medication let alone a newspaper. They can´t fill in forms or write a letter. In my classes are quite a few illiterate immigrants and there have also natives applied for courses. 

     

    wow! so they didn´t go to school?

    4514.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 09:12 pm

     

    Quoting elenagabriela

    For the ones always in a rush - try Titanic ( the 5 sec version)

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSdU8tbcHY

     

    hahah lol

    4515.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 09:15 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    wow! so they didn´t go to school?

     

    Yes, they did, at least most of them. Several (stupid) reasons they are still illiterate: bad teachers (the ignoring type because a child is difficult to handle), often ill and not in class, parents working at a circus or fair so they change schools a lot and some indeed ditched classes (and apparently no-one cared). 

    4516.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     24 Feb 2010 Wed 11:25 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Yes, they did, at least most of them. Several (stupid) reasons they are still illiterate: bad teachers (the ignoring type because a child is difficult to handle), often ill and not in class, parents working at a circus or fair so they change schools a lot and some indeed ditched classes (and apparently no-one cared). 

     

     Often they are also from a generation where people weren´t constantly watching for learning disabilities. When I child is a bit slow in class now, we don´t call them stupid, but we do a dyslexia test, for example.... but already 20 years ago this was different.

    4517.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     25 Feb 2010 Thu 01:40 pm

    Sex Education Manual from the 1960´s

     

    Two comments: - (1) I thought the 60s was the era of free love and experimentation and (2) that transvestite hanging out the washing is wearing a really bad wig.

     

     

     

    Link is here  - click on the pic to enlarge it (bet you´re all excited now! {#emotions_dlg.laugh_at}) (oops no - I enlarged it already! lol )

     



    Edited (2/25/2010) by lady in red [pic is big enough]

    4518.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Feb 2010 Fri 12:01 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Sex Education Manual from the 1960´s

     

    Two comments: - (1) I thought the 60s was the era of free love and experimentation and (2) that transvestite hanging out the washing is wearing a really bad wig.

     

     

     

     

    lol

    whatever happened to "lie still and think aout the Queen?"

     

    Reminds me of American Home Economics Textbook from the ´50s

    4519.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     26 Feb 2010 Fri 12:31 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    lol

    whatever happened to "lie still and think aout the Queen?"

     

    Reminds me of American Home Economics Textbook from the ´50s

     

     as far as i know queen Victoria was naughty in bed,this English softness and hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Edited (2/26/2010) by ptaszek [former colour was striking!!!!!!!!]

    4520.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 Mar 2010 Wed 04:10 pm

    dog washing machine invented by Japanese. you place a dog into micro-wave looking box and push the button. the dog is washed and dried!

    4521.       lemon
    1374 posts
     22 Mar 2010 Mon 09:28 am

    a big change of TC!

    4522.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Mar 2010 Mon 12:10 pm

    37 people killed in Moscow because of suicide bombers´ attacks.

     

    Link

     

    When will this stop? It seems to me attacks like this are more and more ´common´.

    4523.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     31 Mar 2010 Wed 10:55 pm

    Another 12 people died in Russia in another suicidal attack today. It´s sick how bloody suicide bombers fight for their cause killing people who have little or nothing to do with the decision making process. Well, I guess anybody who believes Russia will give up on Tschetschnia just because a few wackos blew themselves up is an idiot...

    4524.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 11:35 am

    ....that a certain ubiquitous member apparently gets ´private massages´ on TC   {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

     

     

    (no doubt by the time anyone reads this there will have been a modification) lol

    4525.       lemon
    1374 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 11:57 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    ....that a certain ubiquitous member apparently gets ´private massages´ on TC   {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

     

     

    (no doubt by the time anyone reads this there will have been a modification) lol

     

    oh, I need one. who is giving? {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    4526.       pagliaccio
    770 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 02:27 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    oh, I need one. who is giving? {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

     

    namely need me? I would give you more than private massages, lemon. Just marry me?...

    4527.       lemon
    1374 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 08:23 pm

     

    Quoting pagliaccio

     

     

    namely need me? I would give you more than private massages, lemon. Just marry me?...

     

    I would marry you, paglio, right away, dear friend, but Im married.

    And I have children. And Im not beautiful. And I eat a lot. Just finished a pack of pickled chilli peppers staffed with cheese (a la turkish-greek). yummmie.

    4528.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 10:01 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    I would marry you, paglio, right away, dear friend, but Im married.

    And I have children. And Im not beautiful. And I eat a lot. Just finished a pack of pickled chilli peppers staffed with cheese (a la turkish-greek). yummmie.

     

    I am pretty sure that he´s ok with all this! lol

    4529.       pagliaccio
    770 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 11:03 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    I would marry you, paglio, right away, dear friend, but Im married.

     

     

    Divorce him!... Marry me instead!... Will you?

     

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    And I have children.

     

    No problem! Just leave them with their father and come!...

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    And Im not beautiful.

     

     

    I am not handsome, either!

     

    Quoting lemon

    And I eat a lot.

     

    So do I!...

     

    Quoting lemon

     Just finished a pack of pickled chilli peppers staffed with cheese (a la turkish-greek). yummmie.

     

     

    Awww!... Imagine us after eating pickled hot - yes, hot- chilli peppers!...Imagine how we both would gradually turn red and hot!...

     

    4530.       pagliaccio
    770 posts
     02 Apr 2010 Fri 11:14 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I am pretty sure that he´s ok with all this! lol

     

    No, catwoman! She misses lacks the most important feature, or characteristic (if you like), which is that she is not feminist like you! The question arises immediately: why then... And the answer is: because, once any woman marries me, she would immediately, automatically, inevitably, naturally and willingly turn a feminist! And then endless discussions, talks, chats about never-ending male-female inequality... 

     

    Found it tempting? Then divorce him and marry me instead! Since I am not rich, handsome and whatsoever, I can promise you nothing but such endless-discussions? Interested? Then divorce him, take me, instead!



    Edited (4/2/2010) by pagliaccio

    4531.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     03 Apr 2010 Sat 12:13 am

     

    Quoting pagliaccio

     

    No, catwoman! She misses lacks the most important feature, or characteristic (if you like), which is that she is not feminist like you!

     

    She IS a feminist, and YOUR disagreements with her are a guarantee -- plenty to debate then!

    4532.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     03 Apr 2010 Sat 11:10 am

    Lebanese TV host Ali Hussain Sibat faces execution in Saudi Arabia for sorcery

     

    A Lebanese television host who was arrested during a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia and sentenced to death as a sorcerer for making predictions on his TV show could be executed any day, his lawyer and rights groups said yesterday. The sentence — roughly equivalent to Derren Brown being condemned to death for predicting the National Lottery on Channel 4 — has provoked outrage among human rights groups, who say that the death penalty for witchcraft in the kingdom is not unusual.

     

    Ali Hussain Sibat, 46, a father of five, was arrested in May 2008 by Saudi Arabia’s religious police, the Mutaween, while on a pilgrimage to the country that boasts the holiest shrines in Islam. He was sentenced in November last year in a secret court session in Medina in which he was given no legal counsel. Amnesty International said that the sentence had apparently been handed down because he “gave advice and predictions about the future” on Lebanese television.

     

    Mr Sibat used to make his predictions and give out advice to audience members while hosting a popular call-in show, Sheherazade, which aired on satellite TV across the Middle East. His lawyer, May el-Khansa, said that the entertainer’s legal appeal was rejected but that under Saudi law he could still be pardoned by the governor of the province in which he was judged. Amnesty has appealed to King Abdullah II, the Saudi ruler, as well as Lebanese authorities to push for the ruling to be overturned.

     

    More

     

    Witchcraft? Why does that sound so mediaeval to me, including funeral piles? 

    4533.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     03 Apr 2010 Sat 11:41 am

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    Witchcraft? Why does that sound so mediaeval to me, including funeral piles? 

     

    Because it IS medieval! Which is where Saudi Arabia lives.. Sickening story! {#emotions_dlg.puking}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    4534.       pagliaccio
    770 posts
     03 Apr 2010 Sat 10:44 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    She IS a feminist, and YOUR disagreements with her are a guarantee -- plenty to debate then!

     

    That is even better then. But I didn´t know lemon and I have disagreements. {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    And lemon, why have you thus far hidden that you are a feminist? Why did you let me kill time with other ladies and/or girls? Why?

    4535.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Apr 2010 Mon 09:59 pm

    This comment in the chatroom:

     

    xxxxxxxxx (14:38): sorry I don´t know much about Lebanon; do they make nice cakes like Algeria??

     

     

    .......Funny - I thought Algeria was better known for deserts than cakes {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

    4536.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     05 Apr 2010 Mon 10:55 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    This comment in the chatroom:

     

    xxxxxxxxx (14:38): sorry I don´t know much about Lebanon; do they make nice cakes like Algeria??

     

     

    .......Funny - I thought Algeria was better known for deserts than cakes {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

     

     

    Funny...when I think Algieria...sweets do not pop into my head AT ALL!

     

    4537.       lemon
    1374 posts
     06 Apr 2010 Tue 12:53 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    This comment in the chatroom:

     

    xxxxxxxxx (14:38): sorry I don´t know much about Lebanon; do they make nice cakes like Algeria??

     

     

    .......Funny - I thought Algeria was better known for deserts than cakes {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

     

    I am not mobile, I know nothing! {#emotions_dlg.silenced} 

     

    4538.       lemon
    1374 posts
     07 Apr 2010 Wed 09:29 pm

    governement sons of bitches shooting at civilians in Kyrgizstan. {#emotions_dlg.sad}

    4539.       lemon
    1374 posts
     08 Apr 2010 Thu 01:05 am

    40 people dead. hundreds are injured.

    4540.       lemon
    1374 posts
     10 Apr 2010 Sat 12:13 pm

    A Greek man is suing a dairy in Sweden for 50 million kronor ($6.9m; £4.5m) for using his image on pots of Turkish-style yoghurt, Swedish media report.

    The man only found out his moustachioed face featured on the containers of Turkisk Yoghurt made by Lindahls when a friend living in Stockholm told him.

    Athanasios Varzanakos told Swedish Radio his friend "was annoyed and asked how it was possible" when informed.

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8612575.stm

     

    I wish I were his relative if he wins the case. {#emotions_dlg.razz}

    4541.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     16 Apr 2010 Fri 08:25 pm

    The anti-rape condom, given to 30.000 South African women during the upcoming World Championship Football.

     

    More

     

    Good idea!

    4542.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     16 Apr 2010 Fri 09:40 pm

    I read the piece about the anti-rape condom, and have mixed feelings about it.

     

    Ofcourse it´s a relief to not have to worry about AIDS once you´ve gone through such a horrible experience, and to be able to catch the bad guy. Any guy who rapes a girl deserves such a device attached to his dingdong. However... does this mean that a woman has to prepare herself for being raped every day? Insert that device inside her, every time she leaves the house? Have we come this far, that a woman has to place devices into her vagina, just to have some sort of protection against AIDS and a raper being unpunished? Because it will not protect her from the guy attacking her, ripping her clothes off, and entering her body. That such a device is needed, is a low point for humanity

    4543.       vineyards
    1954 posts
     16 Apr 2010 Fri 10:32 pm

    In modern society, rape is a problem so is murder or theft. A civilized person is the one who can control his/her feelings so as not to resort to illegal avenues. Generally speaking, justice is meant for protecting the weak against the strong. Rapists therefore are punished when caught.

     

    You probably trust your male friends. There are millions like you.  Majority of males would stay away from involuntary sex. As far as I have observed, a great deal of them detest paid sex too. That means, rapists constitute just a tiny bit of society. Nonetheless, the damage this tiny bit does to society is so grave.

     

    Africa is another story. We must ask ourlselves, to what extent we can help the starving folks out there. Truth be told, we are not moving a finger. We let them go through the worst kind of nighmares including hunger and sexual abuses.

     

    Some considerate guys in the civilized part of the world would like to make sure that at least raped women are not infected just because of being raped. After all, people have different priorities. Is it a wrong choice? I can´t tell....

    4544.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 10:29 am

     

    Quoting lemon

    governement sons of bitches shooting at civilians in Kyrgizstan. {#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

    +1

    4545.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 10:46 am

     

    Quoting vineyards

    In modern society, rape is a problem so is murder or theft. A civilized person is the one who can control his/her feelings so as not to resort to illegal avenues. Generally speaking, justice is meant for protecting the weak against the strong. Rapists therefore are punished when caught.

     

    You probably trust your male friends. There are millions like you.  Majority of males would stay away from involuntary sex. As far as I have observed, a great deal of them detest paid sex too. That means, rapists constitute just a tiny bit of society. Nonetheless, the damage this tiny bit does to society is so grave.

     

    Africa is another story. We must ask ourlselves, to what extent we can help the starving folks out there. Truth be told, we are not moving a finger. We let them go through the worst kind of nighmares including hunger and sexual abuses.

     

    Some considerate guys in the civilized part of the world would like to make sure that at least raped women are not infected just because of being raped. After all, people have different priorities. Is it a wrong choice? I can´t tell....

     

    I agree with Vineyards.. Of course you want there to be mechanisms that would stop sick men from violating women, but if that can´t be done, let´s at least try to protect the women from AIDS!!

    4546.       armegon
    1872 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 11:07 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    +1

     

    +1 

    Kyrgyz people got rid one of the US puppet and a great thief whos ruling the country with a mentality of tradesman, colorful revolts seems collapsing one by one. But unfortunately the ones who is in the power now, was in the same direction with Bakiyev before. I hope they can find a leader who is thinking the people of Kyrgyz not US or Russia.

     

    I heard that Kyrgyz people will kick in the butt of the feto´s organizations in Kyrgyzstan, then i will really admire of them...

    4547.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 11:28 am

    Extramarital sex causes earthquakes.... (says an Iranian imam).

     

    Such words make me laugh so loud! 

     

    Source

    4548.       armegon
    1872 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 11:36 am

    The brutality of Turkish?? police caught my eye, the interesting thing is; polices who had beaten Kurdish protesters in Hakkari, suspended immediately, but the ones who had beaten Turkish students who were protesting YÖK & university exams, are still on duty. Till now nothing happened to those...

    4549.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 01:15 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    +1 

    Kyrgyz people got rid one of the US puppet and a great thief whos ruling the country with a mentality of tradesman, colorful revolts seems collapsing one by one. But unfortunately the ones who is in the power now, was in the same direction with Bakiyev before. I hope they can find a leader who is thinking the people of Kyrgyz not US or Russia.

     

    I heard that Kyrgyz people will kick in the butt of the feto´s organizations in Kyrgyzstan, then i will really admire of them...

     

    +1

    4550.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 01:16 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

    Extramarital sex causes earthquakes.... (says an Iranian imam).

     

    Such words make me laugh so loud! 

     

    Source

     

    You didn´t know that Trudy? That´s why we have so many earthquakes these days..

    4551.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 01:23 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    You didn´t know that Trudy? That´s why we have so many earthquakes these days..

     

    I´m not married.... you?

    4552.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 01:35 pm

     

    Quoting Trudy

     

     

    I´m not married.... you?

     

    Unfortunately those unmarried are also affected by the earthquakes caused by the married infidels..

    4553.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 03:10 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    +1 

    Kyrgyz people got rid one of the US puppet and a great thief whos ruling the country with a mentality of tradesman, colorful revolts seems collapsing one by one. But unfortunately the ones who is in the power now, was in the same direction with Bakiyev before. I hope they can find a leader who is thinking the people of Kyrgyz not US or Russia.

     

    I heard that Kyrgyz people will kick in the butt of the feto´s organizations in Kyrgyzstan, then i will really admire of them...

    I admire them anyway. KG is one of the poorest post soviet countries. They depend on US´ support and Russia´s oil.

     

    4554.       armegon
    1872 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 05:26 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    I admire them anyway. KG is one of the poorest post soviet countries. They depend on US´ support and Russia´s oil.

     

     

    They are for sure much braver than the sleeping Turks in Turkey, which is very much admirable.

    4555.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     17 Apr 2010 Sat 07:08 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    They are for sure much braver than the sleeping Turks in Turkey, which is very much admirable.

     

    What are sleeping Turks?

    4556.       armegon
    1872 posts
     18 Apr 2010 Sun 01:43 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    What are sleeping Turks?

     

    I thought you know what i mean, those are the ones who call themselves as Turkish but still cannot apprehend the seriousness of their motherland´s and coming generations´ situation.

    4557.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     18 Apr 2010 Sun 06:41 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    I thought you know what i mean, those are the ones who call themselves as Turkish but still cannot apprehend the seriousness of their motherland´s and coming generations´ situation.

     

    I was wondering who you consider ´sleeping Turks´.  I think we can agree that calling oneself Turkish does not guarantee the same understanding of the "seriousness of the homeland´s situation". So what do you think is this seriousness about and what should these people do in your opinion?

    4558.       armegon
    1872 posts
     18 Apr 2010 Sun 07:04 pm

    I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is  using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I was wondering who you consider ´sleeping Turks´.  I think we can agree that calling oneself Turkish does not guarantee the same understanding of the "seriousness of the homeland´s situation". So what do you think is this seriousness about and what should these people do in your opinion?

     

     

    4559.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     18 Apr 2010 Sun 08:19 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is  using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...

     

     

     

     That reminds me of the local elections in the town of my mother-in-law. Although she can hardly read she did vote for the guy who became mayor. There were some problems in town regarding electricity bills. The energy costs were going through the roof. During the campaign the soon-to-be-mayor said that people should not pay the electricity bill, because the electric company was corrupt, and that if they voted for him, he would fix it all. Unfortunatly, people did this... no bills paid for several months, and a vast majority of the votes went to this guy with his promises. Ofcourse, nothing happend regarding the electricity bills, nobody can keep a promise like that... "I will pay all your bills" ...yeah right. Anyway, now a lot of people are having troubles paying back the months of bills in one time. And the mayor? He´s sitting in that big office with a smile on his face. Mission accomplished.

    4560.       lemon
    1374 posts
     18 Apr 2010 Sun 11:38 pm

    you are an idealist or even a utopist, that is the problem. there will never be a perfect turkey.

     

    Quoting armegon

    I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is  using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...

     

     

     

     

    4561.       armegon
    1872 posts
     19 Apr 2010 Mon 12:51 am

     

    Quoting lemon

    you are an idealist or even a utopist, that is the problem. there will never be a perfect turkey.

     

     

     

     

    Actually i agree with this one {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4562.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     19 Apr 2010 Mon 10:55 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is  using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...

     

     

     

    offf... you´re not falling into my trap.. ok, it´s clear now!!

    4563.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Apr 2010 Mon 11:36 am

    volcanic eruptions in iceland. and I wanted to live in that country once. a specific country which started off the crisis chain.  now this tiny frozen country is able to hold off all the flights of most eauropean countries.

    4564.       armegon
    1872 posts
     19 Apr 2010 Mon 02:35 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    offf... you´re not falling into my trap.. ok, it´s clear now!!

     

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}  what is that trap? please clarify {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    4565.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     19 Apr 2010 Mon 04:07 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}  what is that trap? please clarify {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

     

    You are so vague and everybody would agree with you, and I can´t point out that you are wrong!! hahah

    4566.       armegon
    1872 posts
     19 Apr 2010 Mon 04:44 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    You are so vague and everybody would agree with you, and I can´t point out that you are wrong!! hahah

     

    {#emotions_dlg.lol}

    4567.       armegon
    1872 posts
     20 Apr 2010 Tue 03:54 am

    But CW, you still have not explained what kind of trap you planned for me, i mean what kind of answer you were expecting from me to fall into your trap...

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    You are so vague and everybody would agree with you, and I can´t point out that you are wrong!! hahah

     

     



    Edited (4/20/2010) by armegon
    Edited (4/20/2010) by armegon

    4568.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Apr 2010 Tue 11:21 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    But CW, you still have not explained what kind of trap you planned for me, i mean what kind of answer you were expecting from me to fall into your trap...

     

    But would it be smart of me to tell you this..? {#emotions_dlg.noway} {#emotions_dlg.doh}We love contrasts and drama.. so let´s keep it coming.

    4569.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     20 Apr 2010 Tue 01:45 pm

    Now gays can´t get a divorce... {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4570.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Apr 2010 Tue 09:08 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Now gays can´t get a divorce... {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

     

     ...huh?

    4571.       armegon
    1872 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:22 am

    I know you are not that stupid, but just a try, forgive me...

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    But would it be smart of me to tell you this..? {#emotions_dlg.noway} {#emotions_dlg.doh}We love contrasts and drama.. so let´s keep it coming.

     

     

    4572.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:48 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    I know you are not that stupid, but just a try, forgive me...

     

     

     

    I´m glad you understand that much! {#emotions_dlg.applause}

    4573.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 11:34 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

     ...huh?

     

    A problem in Texas where same sex couples who got married in another state, can´t get a divorce in Texas..

    4574.       armegon
    1872 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 02:06 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    A problem in Texas where same sex couples who got married in another state, can´t get a divorce in Texas..

     

    Why do they not go to the state where they got married, is it forbidden by law to change the location?{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4575.       lemon
    1374 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 02:52 pm

    Well done Texas! {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

    4576.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 03:18 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

     

    Why do they not go to the state where they got married, is it forbidden by law to change the location?{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    No, it´s not forbidden to change locations, but it´s a pain to fly to a far away state to get the divorce. I just can´t fathom what is it that these people did that hurts others so much! Long live intolerance!! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

    4577.       foka
    597 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 03:58 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    Well done Texas! {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

     

     +1

    4578.       lemon
    1374 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 04:05 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    No, it´s not forbidden to change locations, but it´s a pain to fly to a far away state to get the divorce. I just can´t fathom what is it that these people did that hurts others so much! Long live intolerance!! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

     

    I dont think it hurts. It has nothing to do with feelings or a revenge. They simply follow the law - the law of God. They do not tolerate that goes against the law.

    4579.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 06:30 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    I dont think it hurts. It has nothing to do with feelings or a revenge. They simply follow the law - the law of God. They do not tolerate that goes against the law.

     

    That is correct, just like Taliban is also following the law of their God and executes women for what God told them to do this. Human rights have no meaning.

    4580.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 07:21 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    A problem in Texas where same sex couples who got married in another state, can´t get a divorce in Texas..

     

    Texas? Hmmm.... source of modernism? 

    4581.       lemon
    1374 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 10:21 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    That is correct, just like Taliban is also following the law of their God and executes women for what God told them to do this. Human rights have no meaning.

     

    how bizzare for you to compare the execution of women to the blatant issues of bored people!

    4582.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 11:15 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    how bizzare for you to compare the execution of women to the blatant issues of bored people!

     

    and you with your grand things in life please stop stepping into the blatant issues of bored people and mind your own business.

    4583.       lemon
    1374 posts
     21 Apr 2010 Wed 11:51 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    and you with your grand things in life please stop stepping into the blatant issues of bored people and mind your own business.

     

    We do not discuss in this tone. mind your tone and language.

    4584.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 12:10 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    We do not discuss in this tone. mind your tone and language.

     

    ok, lemon thingy (it´s ok to use this language, right?).



    Edited (4/22/2010) by catwoman

    4585.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 10:58 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    I dont think it hurts. It has nothing to do with feelings or a revenge. They simply follow the law - the law of God. They do not tolerate that goes against the law.

     

    It´s not the place of the state to enforce any religious law on people. What if you are not a Christian? Why does the government force people to follow this Christian law of not marrying the person you love.

     

    I agree with the Taliban comment. It´s a more extreme example of people forcing their own believes on others. Your religion is your business, it´s personal. It´s not a person place to force others to believe the same things and follow the same religious rules.

    4586.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 11:21 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    It´s not the place of the state to enforce any religious law on people. What if you are not a Christian? Why does the government force people to follow this Christian law of not marrying the person you love.

     

    I agree with the Taliban comment. It´s a more extreme example of people forcing their own believes on others. Your religion is your business, it´s personal. It´s not a person place to force others to believe the same things and follow the same religious rules.

     

    +1

     

    Well said once again Barba!

    4587.       lemon
    1374 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 12:04 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    It´s not the place of the state to enforce any religious law on people. What if you are not a Christian? Why does the government force people to follow this Christian law of not marrying the person you love.

     

    I agree with the Taliban comment. It´s a more extreme example of people forcing their own believes on others. Your religion is your business, it´s personal. It´s not a person place to force others to believe the same things and follow the same religious rules.

     

    I understand where you come from. totally acceptable and logic. I spoke the same when I was an atheist.

    You have to take one thing under consideration. Those laws you speak of were made by christains for christians and existed for centuries. those were formulated on the basis of 10 commandments as well as roman civil codex.

    the majority of texas are christians, they wish it to be it so. nobody forces you to live texas as well as nobody forces you to live in afghanistan.

    you dont tolerate the choice of texans so they dont tolerate your choice.

     

    an example of liberal laws being practiced and in force is the western europe, where there are no morals. a complete anarchy. teenagers have sex from the age of 10-11 because there are no more moral indications that would stop them. then they have children, then gov gives them money to continue to do so. all of them ( i mean a vast majority) are from divorced families. with this freedom of choices you have irresponsible parents and disrespectful children.

     

    barba, you have it, you are doing it. enjoy your freedom, have this generation of lazy drunk drag-addict irresponsible people, the product of emanthipated EU.

     

    not long ago I was on your side, on the side of liberalism, freedom and democracy. but today I have seen it enough. it is going from bad to worse. it is downgrading.

     

    I dreamt of democracy I dreamt of freedom. It doesnt work. The more I watch the more I am convinced there are no morals no boundaries in the EU.

    4588.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 04:06 pm

    I think it is a mistake to believe that only religion can give you moral judgement.  I am inclined to believe that most people will behave morally if they are in an environment that rewards good decisions.  The problem (in my opinion of course, which is only supported by my experience and observations) is that governments reward bad behavior and do not give many breaks to people who work hard and excel.  In our society, we face many challenges and it seems that our government, instead of rising up to meet challenge...lowers the standard so that everyone meets it.  There is very little incentive to excel if all you aspire to is mediocrity and just "getting by."  Anyway, I agree that there is so much immorality in the world, but I don´t feel at all that it is based on a lack of religion.  I know plenty of atheists and agnostics that have a much greater sence of social awareness and justice than many of my religious friends.  

    4589.       lemon
    1374 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 04:52 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    I think it is a mistake to believe that only religion can give you moral judgement.  I am inclined to believe that most people will behave morally if they are in an environment that rewards good decisions.  The problem (in my opinion of course, which is only supported by my experience and observations) is that governments reward bad behavior and do not give many breaks to people who work hard and excel.  In our society, we face many challenges and it seems that our government, instead of rising up to meet challenge...lowers the standard so that everyone meets it.  There is very little incentive to excel if all you aspire to is mediocrity and just "getting by."  Anyway, I agree that there is so much immorality in the world, but I don´t feel at all that it is based on a lack of religion.  I know plenty of atheists and agnostics that have a much greater sence of social awareness and justice than many of my religious friends.  

     

    but you now have closed your own cirlce. the point is that EU´s laws doesnt contain any religion. it is so called liberal universal and multi-cultural.and it has been so for decades.

    the question is what has it produced? is it any positive?

    I am not calling on to introduce religious laws. I am more concerned about boundaries. where shall it go? where shall we stop?

    you are spot on when you say the gov rewards bad deeds. it indeed does because gov has stripped itself off from core of morality. suddenly we are all good and equal. e.g. at factories if you are a bully the managers treat you better, they concern about your psycholigal health and jump around you in case you want to sue them, but if you are a good worker you get no reward, no treat but more and more work and more pressure. at schools if you are a trouble, they will take you to a different room and play with you, reward you with many things.

    these kinds of actions make people think its ok to be a bully because you face no punishment.

     

     

    4590.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 06:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    I think it is a mistake to believe that only religion can give you moral judgement.  I am inclined to believe that most people will behave morally if they are in an environment that rewards good decisions.  The problem (in my opinion of course, which is only supported by my experience and observations) is that governments reward bad behavior and do not give many breaks to people who work hard and excel.  In our society, we face many challenges and it seems that our government, instead of rising up to meet challenge...lowers the standard so that everyone meets it.  There is very little incentive to excel if all you aspire to is mediocrity and just "getting by."  Anyway, I agree that there is so much immorality in the world, but I don´t feel at all that it is based on a lack of religion.  I know plenty of atheists and agnostics that have a much greater sence of social awareness and justice than many of my religious friends.  

     

    This is such a good observation. One has to look for complicated questions and answers, not black and white. I can say from my own experience that one of the reasons why children in US schhols don´t try as hard as they do in Poland is that n the US people can have fairly good lives wthout great education (that is changing I think), whereas in Poland if one doesn´t get great education, the options are limited. In Poland also, one doesn´t get many second chances either, while in the US it´s easier to go back to school. So people in Poland know that they have to work very hard and that they will face a lot of competition.

    Also, the society is more authoritative, where kids are sometimes forced to do things.

     

    Overall, I think that we have to solve our problems in the west without sacrificing our freedom and democracy, because despite all the problems with education that we have in the US, children here are more confident, more assertive, more independent thinking, even if they know less about the world. And these are skills with which we can solve our problems.

    4591.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 06:34 pm

    Isn´t Texas in the U.S.? And isn´t the U.S. a secular country? As far as I know, people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, and NOT being a Christian is part of this freedom. One of the principal ideas of creating the U.S. was to have the freedom to practice a religion as one pleased.

    4592.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 08:24 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Isn´t Texas in the U.S.? And isn´t the U.S. a secular country? As far as I know, people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, and NOT being a Christian is part of this freedom. One of the principal ideas of creating the U.S. was to have the freedom to practice a religion as one pleased.

     

     Brilliant Barba!  You get an "A" for paying attention in class today!  {#emotions_dlg.applause}

    4593.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 09:42 pm

    An Islamic group based in New York said that a recent episode of “South Park,” the satirical animated series, insulted the Prophet Muhammad.

    “We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid, and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show. This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them.”

     

    Muslim Group Warns ´South Park´

    4594.       lemon
    1374 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 09:45 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Isn´t Texas in the U.S.? And isn´t the U.S. a secular country? As far as I know, people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, and NOT being a Christian is part of this freedom. One of the principal ideas of creating the U.S. was to have the freedom to practice a religion as one pleased.

     

    and then why christians cant practice or express their rights? if it is a free country why at schools they are not allowed to teach creationism? why if we live in the free western society our children must be mocked for saying that God created the world both by children and teachers? why darwinism is the only option to be taught at schools? so where is your so called freedom? it is a freedom when it fits you, right?

     

    btw, who said US is a secular society? was its foundation really secular? Since when being a non secular is such a problem?

    US was established exactly on christian principals. fundamentalist christians such as puritans, anabaptists fled from persecutions in europe. so what are you talking about? it gradually turned secular centuries later.

     

    4595.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     22 Apr 2010 Thu 10:13 pm

    I think the concept of what "religious freedom" is in the US has changed drastically and will continue to change.  When settlers first came here they just wanted freedom to practice "their" religion...not all religions.  The natives where considered heathons and trying to convert them was an important issue.  The first settlers didn´t say..."oh, look at those people worshiping the great spirit, how nice!"  Need I remind you that women who had any knowledge of herbal remedies or acted strangely where put on trial as witches...many executed.  If the "New World" was truely a bastion of religious freedom from its inception...don´t you think that worshiping satan (or even the idea of it) would fall into the catgory of religious freedom?  When my Italian and Irish relatives came to the US in search of a better life, they were shunned because they were Catholics and not Protestant (which the US was predominately prior to the last 1800s or so).  Anyway, I digress....freedom is a changing concept and is only relevant to the current cultural norms.  Currently, being religious means that you are backward and that there must be something terribly wrong with you if you believe in anything other than the cultural norm.  Just remember, there will come a time when this thinking will be unfashionable as well. {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

     

     



    Edited (4/22/2010) by Elisabeth

    4596.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     23 Apr 2010 Fri 03:28 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     there must be something terribly wrong with you if you believe in anything other than the cultural norm.  Just remember, there will come a time when this thinking will be unfashionable as well. {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

     

    That is of course very true, but to be fair, it is less so in the US then anywhere else in the world. All over the world, people pay high price to be allowed even a small difference then the cultural norm..

    4597.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     23 Apr 2010 Fri 09:44 pm

    I never got the big deal behind gay marriage. Just because you give your neighbor the choice, it´s not like YOU have to get married to somebody of the same sex. If two consenting adults feel like they want to marry eachother, then what is the big deal?

    4598.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Apr 2010 Fri 11:21 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I never got the big deal behind gay marriage. Just because you give your neighbor the choice, it´s not like YOU have to get married to somebody of the same sex. If two consenting adults feel like they want to marry eachother, then what is the big deal?

     

     It´s really not a big deal.  It is just a political tool used to insence the public to a cause that they know will distract everyone from what the real issues are....like the fact that unemployment is still high, the deficit is in the trillions, ect...  Politicians use these hot button topics to stir the viseral reactions of the ignorant masses. 

     

    I think there are several issues that need to go away:

     

    1.  Abortion:  If you don´t want one, don´t get one

    2.  Gay marriage:  nobody is forcing anyone to marry someone from the same sex - Get over it

    3.  Gun control:  Again...if you don´t want one, don´t get one

     

    That´s my thought anyway.  {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    4599.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 12:39 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

    I think there are several issues that need to go away:

     

    1.  Abortion:  If you don´t want one, don´t get one

    2.  Gay marriage:  nobody is forcing anyone to marry someone from the same sex - Get over it

    3.  Gun control:  Again...if you don´t want one, don´t get one

     

    That´s my thought anyway.  {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

     

    I agree, except for #3.. because if your neighbor has a gun, he/she may use it on you, which they won´t do with abortion or gay marriage.

     

    On second thought, I totally agree All these are distractors from real issues..



    Edited (4/24/2010) by catwoman

    4600.       armegon
    1872 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 12:54 am

    Peoples are social entities thats why they built up nations thus they are affected from eachother, i think thats the deal... Wink

    Quoting barba_mama

    I never got the big deal behind gay marriage. Just because you give your neighbor the choice, it´s not like YOU have to get married to somebody of the same sex. If two consenting adults feel like they want to marry eachother, then what is the big deal?

     

     



    Edited (4/24/2010) by armegon

    4601.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 10:49 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    Peoples are social entities thats why they built up nations thus they are affected from eachother, i think thats the deal... Wink

     

     

     

    Perhaps, but two men (or women) being in a monogamous relationship will not have a negative effect on you. It´s not contagious or anything (The homosexuality... ohw, if only monogamy was contagious, that would save so many heartbreaks )

    4602.       lemon
    1374 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 11:21 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Perhaps, but two men (or women) being in a monogamous relationship will not have a negative effect on you. It´s not contagious or anything (The homosexuality... ohw, if only monogamy was contagious, that would save so many heartbreaks )

     

    It is VERY VERY contagious! it is so popular in europe esp UK to be a gay among teenagers (starting even earlier ages like 9 or 1. Suddenly every other boy in bigger cities want to be gay.

    This is not as innocent as you think or I used to think.

    4603.       armegon
    1872 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 11:26 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Perhaps, but two men (or women) being in a monogamous relationship will not have a negative effect on you. It´s not contagious or anything (The homosexuality... ohw, if only monogamy was contagious, that would save so many heartbreaks )

     

    It always affects people, its like your kids hang out with their friends who have bad habits, and you are worried about them...

    4604.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 03:27 pm

    lol lol lol lol lol

    4605.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 07:26 pm

    Oh god... I must be gay! I grew up with my neighbours being a gay couple, named Rob and John. They were like a married couple even before this was legal in Holland.. Oh nooo! I talked to them like a thousand times! And what about the gay friends I have... oh.. crap... And I thought I was straight Well, I need to make a phonecall. Have to disappoint a nice guy, and explain that I have "caught the bug". No more straight-lovin´ for me!

     

    By the way, I seriously hope that the "it IS contagious" remark is a joke... it is... right?



    Edited (4/24/2010) by barba_mama

    4606.       lemon
    1374 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 09:03 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Oh god... I must be gay! I grew up with my neighbours being a gay couple, named Rob and John. They were like a married couple even before this was legal in Holland.. Oh nooo! I talked to them like a thousand times! And what about the gay friends I have... oh.. crap... And I thought I was straight Well, I need to make a phonecall. Have to disappoint a nice guy, and explain that I have "caught the bug". No more straight-lovin´ for me!

     

    By the way, I seriously hope that the "it IS contagious" remark is a joke... it is... right?

     

    Barba, give me better and thought through answers.

     

    "caught the bug" remark is empty, doesnt contain anything valuable.

     

    I was serious. and I gave you the explanation to it.

    4607.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 10:38 pm

    Homosexuality is not something you can "catch" or you would have seen that all children who´s parents turn out to be gay are gay too, and everybody who has a gay friend must be gay too, and ESPECIALLY everybody who ever set foot in a gay club must be gay.

     

    That you seem to have a problem with people being gay, does not mean that it has always been viewed as a problem and that it is a problem. Being gay has not always been an issue. In ancient Greece for example, people were not boxed according to their romantic preferences like they are today. Being gay was an accepted part of life. According to the "contagious" theory, there would be no people left in the world, since at one point everybody would only have sex with same sex partners and no children would be born.

     

    The fact that in certain countries more young people are coming out of the closet, doesn´t mean that more people are becoming gay. It means that more people are open about it. Research has shown, that in countries were being openly gay has been accepted for a longer time have shown stable numbers of gay people. The fact that some countries have no gay people, is not because there ARE no gay people, but because being gay will end in you being discriminated, hurt, or even killed. There are gay people there, but they´re too afraid to admit it.

     

    Is this enough for you? Because I´m really hoping that you´re just pretending to be a bigot to start conversations and discussions, and that you don´t believe the things that you say here.

    4608.       lemon
    1374 posts
     24 Apr 2010 Sat 11:33 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Homosexuality is not something you can "catch" or you would have seen that all children who´s parents turn out to be gay are gay too, and everybody who has a gay friend must be gay too, and ESPECIALLY everybody who ever set foot in a gay club must be gay.

     

    That you seem to have a problem with people being gay, does not mean that it has always been viewed as a problem and that it is a problem. Being gay has not always been an issue. In ancient Greece for example, people were not boxed according to their romantic preferences like they are today. Being gay was an accepted part of life. According to the "contagious" theory, there would be no people left in the world, since at one point everybody would only have sex with same sex partners and no children would be born.

     

    The fact that in certain countries more young people are coming out of the closet, doesn´t mean that more people are becoming gay. It means that more people are open about it. Research has shown, that in countries were being openly gay has been accepted for a longer time have shown stable numbers of gay people. The fact that some countries have no gay people, is not because there ARE no gay people, but because being gay will end in you being discriminated, hurt, or even killed. There are gay people there, but they´re too afraid to admit it.

     

    Is this enough for you? Because I´m really hoping that you´re just pretending to be a bigot to start conversations and discussions, and that you don´t believe the things that you say here.

     

    This is not what I asked you to tell me. Why on earth you think that I know nothing about gays? I didnt come from another planet. I was here when all this started. I was watching, reading, listening. There were thousands of discussions. For years I didnt say anything, I didnt know what to say. I didnt jump into any conversation. Later I became pro-gayish and argued against fundamental christians (from where I come from). I hold this position until recently. Until I saw it suddenly became fashionable for teenagers to declare themselves as gay.

    I strongly believe it is contagious not because of gays, but with the help of mass media.

     

    I never claimed gays kill or hurt. what kind fantasy is that?

     

    4609.       armegon
    1872 posts
     25 Apr 2010 Sun 01:37 am

    Barba, you got it wrong, you asked what is the big deal, i answered societies are disturbed by homosexuality mostly, it is unlogical to say people do not affected by this, every change in environment affects people. To say the truth im not an expert in this issue, i havent got homosexual friends like you, of course i have seen many of them, how they live, behave etc but dont know anyone personally. However i have witnessed many people & society complaining about homosexuality, they believe and fear that it has become a trend that would affect the society in moral way, thats why i used the simile of kids taking examples of their friends who have bad habits(maybe not a good one). Thats why maybe lemon also said that being gay is popular in UK, because teenagers who are not truly born gays somehow emulate the life of homosexuals and at least they want to try once which affects the society.

     

    I just tried to bring out the views of many people, never said it is wrong or right. And i didnt say homosexuals have no morality. I have seen also people who think hmosexuality violates human rights by disrupting the integration of a society.  That society is made up of families. Anyways i personally do not promote or condemn it. Just this.

     

    And lastly instead of making sarcastic comments, you should consider that not not everyone need to think like you, freedom of thought, it does not mean those people want to kill all homosexuals. Wink 

     

    4610.       lemon
    1374 posts
     25 Apr 2010 Sun 02:33 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    Barba, you got it wrong, you asked what is the big deal, i answered societies are disturbed by homosexuality mostly, it is unlogical to say people do not affected by this, every change in environment affects people. To say the truth im not an expert in this issue, i havent got homosexual friends like you, of course i have seen many of them, how they live, behave etc but dont know anyone personally. However i have witnessed many people & society complaining about homosexuality, they believe and fear that it has become a trend that would affect the society in moral way, thats why i used the simile of kids taking examples of their friends who have bad habits(maybe not a good one). Thats why maybe lemon also said that being gay is popular in UK, because teenagers who are not truly born gays somehow emulate the life of homosexuals and at least they want to try once which affects the society.

     

    I just tried to bring out the views of many people, never said it is wrong or right. And i didnt say homosexuals have no morality. I have seen also people who think hmosexuality violates human rights by disrupting the integration of a society.  That society is made up of families. Anyways i personally do not promote or condemn it. Just this.

     

    And lastly instead of making sarcastic comments, you should consider that not not everyone need to think like you, freedom of thought, it does not mean those people want to kill all homosexuals. Wink 

     

     

    exactly!  those boys dont know their identity! they cant decide if they are gays or straight. it is shocking to see so many boys with heavy make-ups who behave like girls. they are bombarded by mass media. they are taught thats its ok to be this and that, you can tattoo all over your body, you can damage your earlobes, you can cut your scalps. today its popular to be a gay, mostly because people will notice you, secondly you do it out of rebellion to parents.

    I mean how sad is this? you do whatever you want to do from the early years. you drink, you smoke, you take drugs (we have to thank Holland for pioneering), and no one will rebuke you. if anyone does it means they violate your freedom and individualism. haha what a misery!

    every other family is broken. because we live in freedom, thus we carry zero responsibility. Our feelings are the most important thing in the world.

    and this is all in the name of freedom, democracy and individualism!

    4611.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     25 Apr 2010 Sun 02:56 am

    Wow, finally a topic where Lemon and Armegon applaud and quote each other!! The impossible can be possible! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

    4612.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     26 Apr 2010 Mon 05:44 pm

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Wow, finally a topic where Lemon and Armegon applaud and quote each other!! The impossible can be possible! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

     

     OMG...I think hell just froze over, pigs are flying, and its raining cats and dogs! 

     

    {#emotions_dlg.holy} 

    4613.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     26 Apr 2010 Mon 08:18 pm

    What does wearing make up have to do with being gay? Most boys that I know who wear make up are very grumpy gothic/emo type kids. Damn, those kids depress me...

     

    Let me tell you about the freedom of taking drugs. Turns out, making hasj legal does not increase the use of hasj. Shocking Holland is not pionering in taking drugs. Hasj is originally not from Holland, neither is coke, opium, etc.

     

    I think it´s so easy to say that "families are broken" and all that kind of stuff. What proof do you have for this remark? My mother is from a much older generations. In her youth, normal people didn´t have tv or a phone. Only one person in the street had a tv, and only one person in her street had a phone. In those days, she was living in a lower class neighbourhood. On the corner of the street there were hostel-type buildings were Chinese sailors would stay. They would use opium all day and would be totally spaced out until it was time to set sail again. In the neighbourhood there were also hookers (which was normal for harbour areas). In the night, gangs would walk around. They would fight eachother with knives and big iron chains.

     

    Because of the way the brain works, people get this "everything used to be better" view of the world. Well, guess what... there were always junkies, always gay people, always gay people who lied about being gay, there were always hookers (check Ephesus in Turkey for proof), there was always violence.

     

    I don´t know about all of you, but I have a good family. I visit my grandparents every week (unless I´m in Turkey ) I have a good relationship with my brother, and speak to him almost every day, and I talk to my mom every day. I have a very close and supportive group of friends. I don´t drink, and I have never touched any kind of drugs in my life. I don´t sleep around with people. I grew up with gay people around me, but I´m not gay. If I was I would be open about it, since my family only wants me to be happy. And I´m DUTCH!

    4614.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     26 Apr 2010 Mon 09:25 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

    I don´t know about all of you, but I have a good family. I visit my grandparents every week (unless I´m in Turkey ) I have a good relationship with my brother, and speak to him almost every day, and I talk to my mom every day. I have a very close and supportive group of friends. I don´t drink, and I have never touched any kind of drugs in my life. I don´t sleep around with people. I grew up with gay people around me, but I´m not gay. If I was I would be open about it, since my family only wants me to be happy. And I´m DUTCH!

     

     Quite possibly the most shocking post EVER on TC!!!  YOU´RE DUTCH?????!!!

    4615.       lemon
    1374 posts
     26 Apr 2010 Mon 09:26 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    What does wearing make up have to do with being gay? Most boys that I know who wear make up are very grumpy gothic/emo type kids. Damn, those kids depress me...

     

    Let me tell you about the freedom of taking drugs. Turns out, making hasj legal does not increase the use of hasj. Shocking Holland is not pionering in taking drugs. Hasj is originally not from Holland, neither is coke, opium, etc.

     

    I think it´s so easy to say that "families are broken" and all that kind of stuff. What proof do you have for this remark? My mother is from a much older generations. In her youth, normal people didn´t have tv or a phone. Only one person in the street had a tv, and only one person in her street had a phone. In those days, she was living in a lower class neighbourhood. On the corner of the street there were hostel-type buildings were Chinese sailors would stay. They would use opium all day and would be totally spaced out until it was time to set sail again. In the neighbourhood there were also hookers (which was normal for harbour areas). In the night, gangs would walk around. They would fight eachother with knives and big iron chains.

     

    Because of the way the brain works, people get this "everything used to be better" view of the world. Well, guess what... there were always junkies, always gay people, always gay people who lied about being gay, there were always hookers (check Ephesus in Turkey for proof), there was always violence.

     

    I don´t know about all of you, but I have a good family. I visit my grandparents every week (unless I´m in Turkey ) I have a good relationship with my brother, and speak to him almost every day, and I talk to my mom every day. I have a very close and supportive group of friends. I don´t drink, and I have never touched any kind of drugs in my life. I don´t sleep around with people. I grew up with gay people around me, but I´m not gay. If I was I would be open about it, since my family only wants me to be happy. And I´m DUTCH!

     

    As for make-ups I have mentioned in my previous post. Tired of repeating.

     

    I find your comment about chinese sailors or about your wonderful personality irrevelant to the topic, at least to every other broken family.

    4616.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     27 Apr 2010 Tue 12:30 pm

    I´m just saying, that people tend to think that today is horrible and yesterday was great. Whatever time we live in. My point was that drugs have always been around, and homosexuality has always been around. Putting eyeliner on your face doesn´t make you a girl, and neither does it make you gay. Even in ancient Egypt the men wore make-up, and the majority of them were not gay.

     

    To say that people are "being gay" because it is popular, or because they want to piss off their parents is a very very hurtful and disrespectful comment. A lot of kids struggle with their sexuality, and it´s not because they think it´s "cool". It´s because they love somebody, in a way that doesn´t fit into the standard norm. Telling their parents, IF they ever come out of the closet, is a painful process. Parents lose the dream they have for their children of husband and wife with a bunch of kids. Parents can push the child away after it comes out about his or her sexuality. You think people do this for fun? Ha ha, my parents think I´m Satan´s child and they treat me as if I were dead... Yes, very cool, very popular. Sounds like fun, maybe I should become gay too.

    4617.       armegon
    1872 posts
     27 Apr 2010 Tue 12:39 pm

    A big fight between a Saudi woman and a Masri man caught my eye. Both hit & insulted to eachother. Masri man is sure in big trouble, because hitting a woman big crime, and woman will decide what will be the punishment, after then 100 percent man will be deported...

    4618.       armegon
    1872 posts
     27 Apr 2010 Tue 02:44 pm

    Stephen Hawking warns over making contact with aliens

    4619.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     27 Apr 2010 Tue 02:49 pm

     

     

     to quote hawking "The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."

    A thought developed at TLC? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4620.       lemon
    1374 posts
     27 Apr 2010 Tue 04:02 pm

     

     

    A strange thing I was planing to ask tc-ists if they believe in the existence of UFO.

    4621.       lemon
    1374 posts
     28 Apr 2010 Wed 11:01 am

    True or not is irrevelant to me.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wrBLXcFGeM

     

     

    4622.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     29 Apr 2010 Thu 07:55 pm

    Sometimes the Dutch are really crazy (not me of course... {#emotions_dlg.holy}  :

     

    NL: Linda magazine promotes gigolos in its 69th issue

     

    April 28, 2010 ·

    To mark its 69th issue, Dutch women’s monthly mag Linda has decide to focus on “cheating”. The editor and TV celebrity Linda de Mol even appears on the cover looking cheeky (posing in bed with only her bra on) with her “call boy” standing in the background whose behind is exposed.  

     

    Linda magazine is usually sold for 5,50 euros in newsstands.  One will barely save any euros by subscribing, it spares the trip to the kiosks mostly.  However, as a Linda subscriber, you get attractive “premiums”. For instance, there’s a special promotion until may 17 where one can enlist in a sweepstake, whose winners will be set up on 25 dates with a gigolo, each guaranteed to last about 2 hours!  According to the mag, this is at least worth 450 euros each date.  If you’d rather not go on a date, then you can settle for a handbag.

     

    Obvioulsy this promotion has infurated a lot of people, even in the Netherlands where prostitution is legal!  The “Vakverk” prostitutes organization  has been threatening to take Ms. De Mol to court, arguing that this makes her a pimp.  Ms. De Mol, who recently separated from her husband, afer she caught him having an affair, seemed, however, quite pleased with the publicity her magazine is getting.

     

    According to its publisher, Linda magazine currently circulates 159 579 copies a month, of which 50 000 through subscriptions.

     

    More info:

     

    Take a look at Linda’s 69th issue online.

     

     

     




    Edited (4/29/2010) by Trudy [Font]

    4623.       foka
    597 posts
     29 Apr 2010 Thu 09:05 pm

    its news from 26th april but i found it today ....

    500 small artists in Antalya

     

    http://video.milliyet.com.tr/500-minikten-keman-resitali_1_37853.htm?auto=1

    4624.       Trudy
    7887 posts
     30 Apr 2010 Fri 11:22 pm

    Everyday is special - 30 April 2010

     

    On this day in 1993, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced that the World Wide Web would be free to the public, paving the way for the Internet revolution and changing the world as we know it.

     

    Today is Queen’s Day in the Netherlands. Queen’s Day (Koninginnedag in Dutch) is a national holiday celebrating the Dutch monarchy. On Queen’s Day, the queen visits one or two towns, where she is received with celebrations in her honor. These celebrations often involve traditional Dutch dances and demonstrations of old crafts.

     

    In Mexico, April 30 is Children’s Day. On “El Día Del Niño,” most kindergartens and elementary schools cancel regular classes and have big parties with piñatas and lots of candy.

     

    Today is Walpurgisnacht (Walpurgis Night) in many parts of central and northern Europe. The festival is named after St. Walpurga, born in Wessex in 710. Historically, Walpurgisnacht is derived from Pagan spring customs. In Estonia, Walpurgisnacht is celebrated on May 1.

     

    Gregorian Calendar: 30 April 2010 C.E.

     

    Hijri Calendar: 16 Jumada al-Awwal 1431 A.H.

     

    Hebrew Calendar: 16 Iyyar 5770

    Queensday.... sigh.......

    4625.       oeince
    582 posts
     30 Apr 2010 Fri 11:26 pm

    I have read that article today and it impressed me. That´s why i want to share it with you.

     

    Its in Turkish and i am too lazy to translate it. I hope a hardworking friend does it.

     

    tükeniş...

    ölüm değil beni korkutan! bos bir yasamın ardından varacağım yer olması sıkıyor canımı.
    nedir ki? kırk yıllar, elli yıllar, billahi çok değil!
    hele hele çizilen bu yolda bize hiç gelir. ne beklersin yaşamdan çorbacı?!
    ne bekler yaşam senden? ikiniz de tüketirsiniz hoyratça zamanı, işte geride kalanlar sıkar biraz canımı..
    yedi yaşında başlarsın okula, sayma ondan öncesini.
    sonra, yıllar yılı gider gelirsin, kara tahtalı değirmene, berrak zamanını öğütmek için,
    yirmi iki civarı alırken diplomanı, tüketivermişsindir üçte birlik zamanını...

    diploma yetmez!! diyor topal şarapçı, iyi bir iş bul hele bakalım! askerliğini de yap birde, sonra evlen bakalım..

    işte bir on yıl daha uçuveriyor ansızın. yaş oluveriyor otuzbeş!
    gerçekten yarısı mıdır yolun?! belki de yarısından da yakın geriye bakma sakın ey küheylan!
    kopuverir zincirleri yaşamın, bir iplik gibi ansızın.

    "hele bir borçlarimızı ödeyelim, sonra daha iyi yaşarız. şimdilik biraz sabır" diyor karım nazife!

    eee.. doğru da söylüyor hani...

    hele bir başımızı sokacak yuva olsun da, gerisi kolay diyor.

    eee.. bu da doğru hani... işte böyle yitiyor hep on seneler, eriyen buzlar misali.

    karım, çocuklarım, kooperatif başkanım, yardımcım, tek tük arkadaşlarım...
    ve... tv´deki haber spikeri!
    bu kadar çevremdekiler. bunlara bakıyor yıllardır gözlerim. işte bu yüzdendir ki,
    miyopsun! diyor doktorum. tak .´ne iki numara.

    ellinci yaş günümü, kimse fark etmiyor bile. ufaklığın diploma töreni var.
    ne biçim alış veriş bu?! anlayamadım gitti!
    yapmak istediğim bir çok şey, özlem kapısında yitti...

    hırs ile mutfağa, ne varsa atıştırmak için, sıcacık bir el tutuyor elimi

    perhiz yapmalısın artık! diyor karım nazife.

    eee.. doğru da söylüyor hani. kalan on yılımın birkaç yılı hastalıkla geçiyor. gerisi de torunların peşinde...

    eee... "ulan hani yaşayacaktık!!" diye bağırıyorum.

    "sakin ol! tansiyonun düşecek" diyor karım nazife.

    eee.. doğru da söylüyor hani.

    nedir yaşamın kısır döngüsü anlayamadım gitti.
    elimdeki tek sermayem de bir gün gibi bitti.

    iyi yaşadık, hoş yaşadık diyor karım nazife. patronların da pek severlerdi çok da çalışırdın hani. bak herşeyimiz var, büyüdü sayılır çocuklar da, daralacak ne derdin var? haydi neşelen artık.

    eee... doğru da söylüyor hani. bir karı, birkaç çocuk, bir ev ve araba, işte yaşamın bilançosu...

    hayır! hayır! korkuyorum ölümden!!

    boşa geçen bir yaşamın ardından nasıl gidilir oraya?!

    özgürce çizmeliydim yaşamımı zorda olsa, özgürce ulaşmalıydım sona, yalnızlıkla bile yşsansa.. kanaviçe gibi dokumalıydım, güzellikleri, gizemleri.

    ter basıyor fırlıyorum yataktan.

    dönüp durma diyor, karım nazife, yarı uykulu.

    "sıkıca örtün de uyu"

    eee... doğru da söylüyor hani.

    tüketmek için bunca acele ettiğiniz takvim yapraklarına.. onca hızla çevirdiğiniz akreplere yelkovanlara.. içine gönüllü aldığınız o insafsız rutin çarkına.. şöyle bir uzaktan baktığınızda ne hissediyorsunuz? "ne kadarı benim hayatım," diye soruyor musunuz? ne kadarını başkaları yaşamış benim yerime.. ya da ben başkalarının?.

    "aynadakinin ne kadari benim, ne kadarı oynadıklarım?.. sevgiyi koydum kum saatinin dolu dizgin akıp giden kumlarının her bir zerresine. çünkü bir tek sevgi var elimizde; bunca yıldan
    damıtılıp gelen... yine bir tek o kalacak, yaşanacak yıllarından geriye...

    bir tek sevgi olacak bunca telaştan arta kalan...ötesi yalan...

    can dündar...

    4626.       foka
    597 posts
     01 May 2010 Sat 10:58 pm

    Thanks Jimi Hendrix Wrocław 2010 - Rekord Guinessa

     

    Almost 4500 guitar players ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YGdpObOe08



    Edited (5/1/2010) by foka [...]

    4627.       lemon
    1374 posts
     02 May 2010 Sun 08:01 pm

    It looks like Greece is in a deep trouble.

    4628.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     03 May 2010 Mon 11:35 am

     

    Quoting lemon

    It looks like Greece is in a deep trouble.

     

    Not only greece, so is Italy, Portugal, Spain and Ireland. Getting a job in Ireland these days is almost impossible, especially if you don´t live in Dublin or Cork One of the biggest enerpreneurs, who is mainly associated with the region I live in, is to lay off 900 people. Quite a number for a country with population of 4mln...



    Edited (5/3/2010) by Daydreamer

    4629.       lemon
    1374 posts
     03 May 2010 Mon 04:46 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Not only greece, so is Italy, Portugal, Spain and Ireland. Getting a job in Ireland these days is almost impossible, especially if you don´t live in Dublin or Cork One of the biggest enerpreneurs, who is mainly associated with the region I live in, is to lay off 900 people. Quite a number for a country with population of 4mln...

     

    This means I have to pack ASAP. 

    4630.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     05 May 2010 Wed 04:47 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    This means I have to pack ASAP. 

     

     You can come here Lemon...but you may have trouble finding a job as well.  Although we are hiring at my company.

    4631.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 May 2010 Wed 11:14 am

    Tea is back! But for how long? {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4632.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 May 2010 Wed 11:15 am

     

    Quoting teaschip

     

     

     You can come here Lemon...but you may have trouble finding a job as well.  Although we are hiring at my company.

     

    You are the third American who invited me to live in America! {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

     

    Thank you, Teas!

    4633.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     05 May 2010 Wed 04:21 pm

    We have been missing Borat so much since he went home!  Having his sister here will ease our broken hearts a bit!{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

    4634.       ally81
    461 posts
     06 May 2010 Thu 02:00 am

    http://www.thy.com/images/Image/basin_bultenleri/manchester_united5b.jpg

     

    My son would be insanely happy if he got a chance to fly on this Turkish airlines plane to his favourite place in the wold, Mahmutlar, Turkey! (well to Istanbul and then to Antalya and then by bus to Mahmutlar, but you know what I mean, lol)  His two favourite things rolled into 1!.... Assuming we get to fly there this year that is, what with the ash cloud still harassing Ireland

    4635.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 May 2010 Sun 01:52 pm

    icelandic ash-clouds again halting flights.

    4636.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 May 2010 Sun 01:56 pm

    victory day. I think its first time other countries were invited to participate in the military parade in Moscow.

    when I was a child I loved watching those parades.

    4637.       slavica
    814 posts
     09 May 2010 Sun 05:44 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    victory day. I think its first time other countries were invited to participate in the military parade in Moscow.

    when I was a child I loved watching those parades.

     

     It was impressive again. I felt sorry that my ex-country, Yugoslavia, doesn´t exist anymore, so couldn´t take part in parade ...

    4638.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 May 2010 Sun 06:41 pm

     

    Quoting slavica

     

     

     It was impressive again. I felt sorry that my ex-country, Yugoslavia, doesn´t exist anymore, so couldn´t take part in parade ...

     

    I know, I couldnt watch it, here they showed bits and pieces only related to UK. Im sure it was impressive as usual.

    Why couldnt Yugoslavia participate as seperate independent states?

    4639.       slavica
    814 posts
     09 May 2010 Sun 07:13 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    I know, I couldnt watch it, here they showed bits and pieces only related to UK. Im sure it was impressive as usual.

     

     

    There´s full video at YouTube, try it

     

    Part 1

     

    Part 2

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    Why couldnt Yugoslavia participate as seperate independent states?

     

    It wouldn´t be the same, moreover, IT would be really sad   Besides, I don´t think all former Yugoslavian states would accept to participate, since they didn´t participate equally in fight vs  fascism either... Long and sad story...



    Edited (5/9/2010) by slavica

    4640.       lemon
    1374 posts
     09 May 2010 Sun 11:33 pm

    Thank you, slavica for youtube links. I searched for them this morning but couldnt find.

     

    4641.       lemon
    1374 posts
     10 May 2010 Mon 12:13 am

    Honour and respect to those who fought and died, to those who fought and survived WWII!!!

    4642.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     10 May 2010 Mon 04:30 pm

     The biased approach of DJ{#emotions_dlg.get_you}

    barba got xxx ,only three small ones WHILE scalpel XXXX- four!!!!Four!!!!FOUR BIG ONES!!! Egalitarianism and full emancipation haven´t struck TC yet{#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

    Anybody knowledgeable why???{#emotions_dlg.whistle}{#emotions_dlg.computer}

    4643.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     10 May 2010 Mon 08:29 pm

    ...what did I miss?

    4644.       lemon
    1374 posts
     13 May 2010 Thu 07:48 pm

    May... 2 weeks of global cooling. Fed up!

    4645.       lemon
    1374 posts
     13 May 2010 Thu 08:10 pm

    Lisa, Admin! Congrats! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

    4646.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     14 May 2010 Fri 03:09 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    Lisa, Admin! Congrats! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

     

    Yes - congratulations Lisa!  

     

    (by the way I resigned as Admin about a month ago - although I signed in for the first time in ages today and noticed that my name is still showing as a moderator on the forums.  I´m not - so please don´t ask me to delete anything!!)

    4647.       lemon
    1374 posts
     14 May 2010 Fri 03:41 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Yes - congratulations Lisa!  

     

    (by the way I resigned as Admin about a month ago - although I signed in for the first time in ages today and noticed that my name is still showing as a moderator on the forums.  I´m not - so please don´t ask me to delete anything!!)

     

    WOW. thats news! interesting!

     

    LIR, I wanna thank you for moderating and admining! Enjoy your retirement! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

    4648.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     14 May 2010 Fri 10:03 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    WOW. thats news! interesting!

     

    LIR, I wanna thank you for moderating and admining! Enjoy your retirement! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

     

    Oh thank you lemon {#emotions_dlg.shy} - that was really very sweet of you.

    4649.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 04:26 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    WOW. thats news! interesting!

     

    LIR, I wanna thank you for moderating and admining! Enjoy your retirement! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

     

     

    I agree with you..

     

     

    Thank you very much for moderating and being an admin here LIR..

    And welcome to back benches..

    {#emotions_dlg.flowers}{#emotions_dlg.flowers}{#emotions_dlg.flowers}{#emotions_dlg.flowers}{#emotions_dlg.flowers}



    Edited (5/17/2010) by thehandsom

    4650.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 06:31 pm

    I think its time to have Turkish admins!

     

    My propositions are Scalpel and Armegon!

     

    I think of Sui of course, but he maybe busy saving our planet.

    4651.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 06:39 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    I think its time to have Turkish admins!

     

    My propositions are Scalpel and Armegon!

     

    I think of Sui of course, but he maybe busy saving our planet.

    I believe "Admin" the admin is Turkish and he is the most powerful of all the admins....so perhaps that is enough Turkishness?  lol{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    4652.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 06:47 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

    I believe "Admin" the admin is Turkish and he is the most powerful of all the admins....so perhaps that is enough Turkishness?  lol{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

     

    +10000000 lol

    That is MORE than enough..{#emotions_dlg.angel}

    4653.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 06:51 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

    I believe "Admin" the admin is Turkish and he is the most powerful of all the admins....so perhaps that is enough Turkishness?  lol{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

     

    He doesnt count {#emotions_dlg.ninja} He is more american than you.

     

    One american turkish for turkish language site? you must be joking?

    4654.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 06:51 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    +10000000 lol

    That is MORE than enough..{#emotions_dlg.angel}

    Stop your apple polishing!

     

    4655.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 07:27 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

    Stop your apple polishing!

     

     

    +1000000

    I never polish apples canim {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    But I AGREE with you!!!!

    4656.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 08:13 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    +1000000

    I never polish apples canim {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    But I AGREE with you!!!!

     

    I thought you loved polish apples {#emotions_dlg.razz}

    4657.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 May 2010 Mon 10:25 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    I thought you loved polish apples {#emotions_dlg.razz}

     

    Only the ones growing in Irish soil {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    4658.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     19 May 2010 Wed 01:49 am

    Scandal in a Polish Junior Secondary school

     

    5 girls aged 15 got pregnant at the same time, it turns out, they were playing a game where they lie on the floor and boys well..let´s say lie on top of them changing partners every few minutes. Now the girls are pregnant (2 of them as 3 have already given birth)

     

    ______________

     

    whatever happened to good old-spin-the bottle?

     

    O tempora, o mores!

    /I´ll get my coat/

    4659.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     19 May 2010 Wed 07:45 pm

    WHAT?! That´s not a game, that´s porn! Jeez, I was even too much of an angel to play "spin the bottle" at that age

    4660.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     19 May 2010 Wed 11:39 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    WHAT?! That´s not a game, that´s porn! Jeez, I was even too much of an angel to play "spin the bottle" at that age

     

     don´t get overexcited BM,just read about rape on 8 year old in English primary school)AE stop reading Trudy´s essays- the education system needs you)

    4661.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     19 May 2010 Wed 11:54 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Scandal in a Polish Junior Secondary school

     

    5 girls aged 15 got pregnant at the same time, it turns out, they were playing a game where they lie on the floor and boys well..let´s say lie on top of them changing partners every few minutes. Now the girls are pregnant (2 of them as 3 have already given birth)

     

    ______________

     

    whatever happened to good old-spin-the bottle?

     

    O tempora, o mores!

    /I´ll get my coat/

     

     Sometimes it seems as though the world has gone mad!  Did this happen in the school?  Where were the teachers / parents / adult supervision? 

    4662.       ptaszek
    440 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 12:03 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Sometimes it seems as though the world has gone mad!  Did this happen in the school?  Where were the teachers / parents / adult supervision? 

     

     Lis calm down!!!do you really know what your kid is doing 24/7?

    do you? and if not what kind of a parent,superviser,or a teacher u r?

    such things happen and it is not possible to prevent them if brads do not want..the question is that these brads were not paying attention at pre-family classes or not sent to them since not obligatory here.

    one of my students-17 years old got pregnant bcs her boy friend told her sex without condom is safe..trust me,i know what i am doing...well not counting her fertile days..

     

    4663.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 01:30 am

    Lis - I don´t think it happened at school, probably at some kind of a party while parents were out. And it is shocking!

     

    Ptaszek - sexual education was not a subject when I worked at school, is it on the curriculum now? I think lack of proper education leads to deviations. These days children have access to the Internet, which, consequently leads to perceive sex as porn (which it is not!). On the one hand, most Polish kids go to religion classes where they teach them that it´s a sin, a taboo and a thing people don´t talk about; on the other, the natural curiosity and too easy access to materials that shouldn´t be watched before certain preparation, confuses them.

    (BTW, wasn´t the 8 year old you´re talking about lying about being raped by two ten year olds?)

     

    That´s why I believe proper grounds of intimate relationships should be taught during classes not biased religion-wise.

    4664.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 02:41 am

    Well, if there is one thing I do know about kids...if you make something a taboo, they will almost surely do it!  I just think it is a shame that sex education is left to the schools.  Of course it is better taught at school than from porn sites/magazines, etc...but it makes me wonder... WHAT ARE PARENTS DOING? 

     

    As most of us parents worry about other people doing things to our children, I think we forget that we must also save them from themselves.  

    4665.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 05:15 pm

    Unbelieviable! 

     

    Gay couple in Malawi sentenced to 14 years!

     

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37248649/ns/world_news-africa?GT1=43001

     

    4666.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 05:34 pm

     

    Curry chef in court accused of killing swan for food 

     

    A curry chef appeared in court yesterday accused of killing a wild swan for food.

    Mohammed Miah, 29, pounced on the bird and was later found with blood and feathers on his hands, and the swan in a bin bag nearby, Bedford magistrates heard.

    ....

    He said: ‘The case raises interesting legal points whether the swan belongs to anybody and whether it needs to belong to somebody to be stolen, and whether the Queen is the owner of the bird.

    ..

    The chairman of the bench, Michael Hine, granted Miah bail on condition that he does not go to the embankment in Bedford, unless to cross the river by one of three bridges in the town.

     

    {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279704/Chef-court-killing-swan--does-Queen-birds.html

     

     

    would it be better to steal?

     

     

     



    Edited (5/20/2010) by thehandsom

    4667.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 06:07 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Curry chef in court accused of killing swan for food 

     

    A curry chef appeared in court yesterday accused of killing a wild swan for food.

    Mohammed Miah, 29, pounced on the bird and was later found with blood and feathers on his hands, and the swan in a bin bag nearby, Bedford magistrates heard.

    ....

    He said: ‘The case raises interesting legal points whether the swan belongs to anybody and whether it needs to belong to somebody to be stolen, and whether the Queen is the owner of the bird.

    ..

    The chairman of the bench, Michael Hine, granted Miah bail on condition that he does not go to the embankment in Bedford, unless to cross the river by one of three bridges in the town.

     

    {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279704/Chef-court-killing-swan--does-Queen-birds.html

     

     

    would it be better to steal?

     

     

     

     

    So was he arrested because he killed a swan or because he stole a swan? or both?  What a strange story. 



    Edited (5/20/2010) by Elisabeth

    4668.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 08:34 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    So was he arrested because he killed a swan or because he stole a swan? or both?  What a strange story. 

     

     Swans are protected birds in our country and should not be killed, if you do you pay the consequences.  They are magnificent birds and so many are being killed these days because migrants think they can kill them and eat them, without knowing the law.  They are known as the Queens birds because they belong to the crown.

     

    So serve him right!  Go kill pidgeons instead, there are thousands of them.

     

    There are some historical quirks, one of which is that the Monarch owns all wild swans living in open water - of the species called ´mute´ swans. Other species of swans, and those owned by individuals are not owned by Her Majesty.

    4669.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 08:37 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Swans are protected birds in our country and should not be killed, if you do you pay the consequences.  They are magnificent birds and so many are being killed these days because migrants think they can kill them and eat them, without knowing the law.  They are known as the Queens birds because they belong to the crown.

     

    So serve him right!  Go kill pidgeons instead, there are thousands of them.

     

    There are some historical quirks, one of which is that the Monarch owns all wild swans living in open water - of the species called ´mute´ swans. Other species of swans, and those owned by individuals are not owned by Her Majesty.

     

     Ok....thanks for the explanation.  Aside from the fact that I can´t believe someone would kill a swan for food, I didn´t realize they were "property" of the Queen. 

    4670.       lemon
    1374 posts
     20 May 2010 Thu 09:34 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Ok....thanks for the explanation.  Aside from the fact that I can´t believe someone would kill a swan for food, I didn´t realize they were "property" of the Queen. 

    Yeah, and we are her subjects {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    me too never heard of swan eating.

     

    4671.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 12:16 am

    If I remember correctly, Daily Mirror or a similar newspaper made a lot of fuss saying that Polish immigrants in the UK were killing and eating swans a while ago. That cracked me up, swans? I´ve never heard of anyone eating swans

    4672.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 12:37 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    If I remember correctly, Daily Mirror or a similar newspaper made a lot of fuss saying that Polish immigrants in the UK were killing and eating swans a while ago. That cracked me up, swans? I´ve never heard of anyone eating swans

     

    Well

    They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper,  thyme and rosemary ..

     

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_eat_Black_Swan 

    4673.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 01:41 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Well

    They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper,  thyme and rosemary ..

     

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_eat_Black_Swan 

    You are hideous!{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

     

    4674.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 02:35 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Well

    They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper,  thyme and rosemary ..

     

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_eat_Black_Swan 

     

    Offf ya...tamam. Mufağa gidiyorum

     

    "♪♫...are you going to Scarborough fair....parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme...♪♫"

     

    4675.       lemon
    1374 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 10:12 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    If I remember correctly, Daily Mirror or a similar newspaper made a lot of fuss saying that Polish immigrants in the UK were killing and eating swans a while ago. That cracked me up, swans? I´ve never heard of anyone eating swans

     

    strange that poles dont eat swans in poland despite the joblessness but they do in daily mirror. {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    4676.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 12:33 pm

    Playground for pensioners

     

    The Senior Playground in Hyde Park, which opened this week.

    It’s the opposite of a children’s playground: instead of seesaws and climbing frames it is full of fancy exercise equipment for pensioners to keep their joints from creaking. 

    ...

    Getting in the swing: A senior citizen tries out one of the fitness machines

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280111/MICHAEL-WINNER-A-playground-pensioners-They-death-wish.html

     

    ps..Not that I will be using that play ground for another good 50 years for myself..

    4677.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 02:28 pm

    Finally, science creates life!!!

     

     

    Scientists have succeeded in creating artificial life in a test tube, in a development which promises to revolutionise biotechnology.

     

    The research opens the way for scientists to create new life forms that can be genetically programmed to carry out a variety of functions, such as producing carbon-free fuel or made-to-order vaccines and providing new forms of food and clean water. However, the study also raises ethical concerns about the technology falling into the wrong hands, and, for instance, being used to make biological weapons, or by scientists to "play God" with life.

    ..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/....-mankind-1978869.html

     

     

    I think it is time for creationists to salute the science!! Because this was the LAST castle for them  

     

     

     

    4678.       lemon
    1374 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 03:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Finally, science creates life!!!

     

     

    Scientists have succeeded in creating artificial life in a test tube, in a development which promises to revolutionise biotechnology.

     

    The research opens the way for scientists to create new life forms that can be genetically programmed to carry out a variety of functions, such as producing carbon-free fuel or made-to-order vaccines and providing new forms of food and clean water. However, the study also raises ethical concerns about the technology falling into the wrong hands, and, for instance, being used to make biological weapons, or by scientists to "play God" with life.

    ..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/....-mankind-1978869.html

     

     

    I think it is time for creationists to salute the science!! Because this was the LAST castle for them  

     

     

     

     

     

    (The research team, led by Craig Venter, who previously directed one of the teams which decoded the human genome, said they had created synthetic life in the form of a new species of bacteria that operates entirely under the control of a man-made set of genetic instructions, originally stored on a computer. They synthesised the genome of a bacterial cell and used it to "boot up" the empty cell of another species of bacteria, which then replicated freely as if it were carrying its own set of genetic instructions instead of a set made in a laboratory.)

     

    Not so fast! Nobody can create a life!

    They used existing bacteria! phew, so much for the gods of science!

     



    Edited (5/21/2010) by lemon

    4679.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 03:30 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Well

    They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper,  thyme and rosemary ..

     

     

     

    Frequent meal at Chez Handsom is it??  {#emotions_dlg.unsure}



    Edited (5/21/2010) by lady in red

    4680.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 03:41 pm

    Bit behind Turkey in the UK aren´t they?  There are at least 4 of these excercise parks here on the Bodrum peninsula that I know of and Trudy uploaded a photo of one she saw on the outskirts of Istanbul recently.  Only difference being is that they are used by all ages - my neighbour´s 19 year old daughter and her friend go to the local park to exercise every day when they are home from Uni - not as good as a gym but the main point is it´s free!

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Playground for pensioners

     

    The Senior Playground in Hyde Park, which opened this week.

    It’s the opposite of a children’s playground: instead of seesaws and climbing frames it is full of fancy exercise equipment for pensioners to keep their joints from creaking. 

     

    4681.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 04:29 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Bit behind Turkey in the UK aren´t they?  There are at least 4 of these excercise parks here on the Bodrum peninsula that I know of and Trudy uploaded a photo of one she saw on the outskirts of Istanbul recently.  Only difference being is that they are used by all ages - my neighbour´s 19 year old daughter and her friend go to the local park to exercise every day when they are home from Uni - not as good as a gym but the main point is it´s free!

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Playground for pensioners

     

     

    We have one in the town centre as well. Loads of people of all ages using it.

     

    4682.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     21 May 2010 Fri 10:06 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Playground for pensioners

     

    The Senior Playground in Hyde Park, which opened this week.

    It’s the opposite of a children’s playground: instead of seesaws and climbing frames it is full of fancy exercise equipment for pensioners to keep their joints from creaking. 

    ...

    Getting in the swing: A senior citizen tries out one of the fitness machines

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280111/MICHAEL-WINNER-A-playground-pensioners-They-death-wish.html

     

    ps..Not that I will be using that play ground for another good 50 years for myself..

     

     When I first saw this, I thought it said playground for prisoners!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4683.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 May 2010 Sun 10:45 pm

    Do you want to have access to Prince Andrew?

     

    Then you have to pay his ex wife Duchess of York Sarah!!

     

    The Duchess of York has been filmed offering to sell access to ex-husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 ..
    The News of the World said Sarah Ferguson was filmed by an undercover reporter posing as a businessman.
    She appears to accept a $40,000 cash payment, and is quoted as saying: "Look after me and he´ll look after you."

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8699139.stm

     

    ===

     

     

     

    4684.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 May 2010 Mon 03:45 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Do you want to have access to Prince Andrew?

     

    Then you have to pay his ex wife Duchess of York Sarah!!

     

    The Duchess of York has been filmed offering to sell access to ex-husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 ..
    The News of the World said Sarah Ferguson was filmed by an undercover reporter posing as a businessman.
    She appears to accept a $40,000 cash payment, and is quoted as saying: "Look after me and he´ll look after you."

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8699139.stm

     

    ===

     

     

     

     

     I don´t think I could pay anyone to have access to my ex!  Lucky girl!! 

    4685.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 May 2010 Mon 05:04 pm

    Sometimes the bull wins too..

     

     

    Matador in hospital after horrific goring


    Spanish matador Julio Aparicio was recovering in hospital on Saturday after suffering a horrific goring during a bullfight in Madrid.

     

     

    The half-ton bull caught the torero under his chin after he lost his footing and stumbled while executing a pass with his red cape at the Spanish capital´s packed bullring.

     

     

    The horn of the animal tore into the bullfighter´s throat and emerged through his mouth in a dramatic goring on Friday evening that had the crowd screaming in horror.

     

     

     

     

    ..

    The rest:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo.......al-after-horrific-goring.html

    W A R N I N G! ***Some pictures above link likely to offend those sensitive to images of pain and blood

    4686.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     24 May 2010 Mon 05:18 pm

    I think it´s even crazier that bull-fighting is surviving because of EU subsidies.

    4687.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 May 2010 Mon 05:57 pm

    I can´t imagine that this is still going on.  I do feel a sense of pity for the matadore because I know he is critically injured, but I also have pity for this bull.  At least the matadore made the decision to go and fight with a bull....but this bull had no choice and was just defending himself. 

     

    Anyway, the fact that this is subsidized by the EU makes it seem like all of Europe is OK with bull-fighting, which I know is not the case.  These subsidies should stop. 

    4688.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     24 May 2010 Mon 11:49 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Do you want to have access to Prince Andrew?

     

    Then you have to pay his ex wife Duchess of York Sarah!!

     

    The Duchess of York has been filmed offering to sell access to ex-husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 ..
    The News of the World said Sarah Ferguson was filmed by an undercover reporter posing as a businessman.
    She appears to accept a $40,000 cash payment, and is quoted as saying: "Look after me and he´ll look after you."

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8699139.stm

     

    ===

     

     

     

     

     

    now it is easy to understand how she did that bad advertisement about Turkey few years ago. she gave or got money and played a game in Turkey, and her lies about TR is clear now we turks never behave bad to children....they are future...
    Duchess of York faces criminal charges over Turkish child-scandal
    these kind of people and their smarmies should firstly look at their own country instead of hiding their rubbish under their carpet..
    forever DJxxx

    4689.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     25 May 2010 Tue 11:53 am

    Protest against the use of real bearskins in the Guard’s ceremonial hats.

    This is a part of protests about peta´s campaign  http://www.unbearablecruelty.com/campaign.asp

     

    You can join the campain in this address:

     

    http://action.peta.org.uk/ea-campaign/.....5&ea.campaign.id=2149

     

     

    4690.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     25 May 2010 Tue 01:10 pm

    Why do all Peta-actions involve naked people? I thought it was an animal-welfare organization, not a pro-nudist organization.

    4691.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     25 May 2010 Tue 02:16 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Why do all Peta-actions involve naked people? I thought it was an animal-welfare organization, not a pro-nudist organization.

     

    When I looked at those pictures the first thing came into my mind that ´omg poor bears´ not ´omg look at her boobs´  {#emotions_dlg.shame}

    Buzz word in that news is ´the bears´

     

    4692.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 May 2010 Tue 03:48 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Why do all Peta-actions involve naked people? I thought it was an animal-welfare organization, not a pro-nudist organization.

     

     I think PETA is one of those organizations that pretty people join so that they can get attention and feel important.  I guess if some animals are saved in the interim, then maybe it isn´t all bad.    But in the long run, exploiting women to save animals is counterproductive. 

    4693.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     26 May 2010 Wed 11:48 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    When I looked at those pictures the first thing came into my mind that ´omg poor bears´ not ´omg look at her boobs´  {#emotions_dlg.shame}

    Buzz word in that news is ´the bears´

     

     

    Well, I started to think "why is her outfit so weird" and then I noticed that her outfit was paint! She could have worn clothes as well. I guess it´s linked to the other thread, sex sells. Google peta, and press images. You´ll get a playboy-like collections of pictures.

    4694.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     27 May 2010 Thu 06:55 pm

    Fifty years after 1960 coup, Turkey visits ghosts of Yassıada

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    Özgür Öğret – First person
    Five decades after the first coup swept through Turkey, an organization is seeking to erect a museum to honor democracy, commemorate those we lost and help ensure the country never forgets about Yassıada Island, where the junta trials took place. ‘I want people to bury the mentality of the time and plant seeds of peace and love,’ says a former political leader
    DAILY NEWS photo, Hasan ALTINIŞIK

    DAILY NEWS photo, Hasan ALTINIŞIK

    The small, abandoned, beautifully gloomy Yassıada might be a physical manifestation of the history of the military’s dominance in Turkey, but 50 years after the 1960 coup the island is home to no more than political ghosts.

     

    Forgotten by most people for 364 days a year, the island has become the focus of efforts by an NGO seeking to change its name to Democracy Island and build a democracy museum to serve for future generations. coup, May 27, 1960

     

     

     

     

    Read more.........


    Edited (5/27/2010) by Elisabeth

    4695.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 12:12 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Fifty years after 1960 coup, Turkey visits ghosts of Yassıada

    Font Size: Larger|Smaller
    Özgür Öğret – First person
    Five decades after the first coup swept through Turkey, an organization is seeking to erect a museum to honor democracy, commemorate those we lost and help ensure the country never forgets about Yassıada Island, where the junta trials took place. ‘I want people to bury the mentality of the time and plant seeds of peace and love,’ says a former political leader
    DAILY NEWS photo, Hasan ALTINIŞIK

    DAILY NEWS photo, Hasan ALTINIŞIK

    The small, abandoned, beautifully gloomy Yassıada might be a physical manifestation of the history of the military’s dominance in Turkey, but 50 years after the 1960 coup the island is home to no more than political ghosts.

     

    Forgotten by most people for 364 days a year, the island has become the focus of efforts by an NGO seeking to change its name to Democracy Island and build a democracy museum to serve for future generations. coup, May 27, 1960

     

     

     

     

    Read more.........

     

    Wow..

    50 years!!

    People in Turkey are still debating if it was a revolution or just a simple an army coup..

    27 May 1960 was  the date when the army intervened into politics for the first time.. And of course, later on, they kept messing around.. They still do!!  

    4696.       bydand
    755 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 01:09 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    27 May 1960 was  the date when the army intervened into politics for the first time.. And of course, later on, they kept messing around.. They still do!!  

     

     I thought it was a military intervention that created the Republic in the first place.

    4697.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 06:03 pm

    Living My Life Faster - 8 years of JK´s Daily Photo Project

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc_PU3D3QNE

     


    4698.       libralady
    5152 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 06:12 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyYVLbS0PNs

     

    Young boy is caught falling from an escalator in Istanbul shopping mall - the daft little buggar was riding up the side when a sharp eyed customer saw him and caught him as he fell when he reached the top!

    4699.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 06:23 pm

     

    Quoting libralady

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyYVLbS0PNs

     

    Young boy is caught falling from an escalator in Istanbul shopping mall - the daft little buggar was riding up the side when a sharp eyed customer saw him and caught him as he fell when he reached the top!

     

     WOW!  It was definitely that kids lucky day!!!

    4700.       libralady
    5152 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 06:25 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     WOW!  It was definitely that kids lucky day!!!

     

     Probably not so when his parents find out what he was up to! {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4701.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     28 May 2010 Fri 10:22 pm

    http://www.nartube.com/f4ddad9262a8377c6748730d1072755fb532bbbf:K0BZDulGqNY.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    4702.       lemon
    1374 posts
     02 Jun 2010 Wed 11:35 pm

    Shootings in Cumbria. 12 dead. {#emotions_dlg.confused}

    4703.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     03 Jun 2010 Thu 09:23 am

     

    Quoting lemon

    Shootings in Cumbria. 12 dead. {#emotions_dlg.confused}

     

    The report on BBC World News this morning that it was Britain´s worse mass murder for 10 years. It was also surmised that it all started because of a family feud over a will.....{#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

    It seems that, however much you try to avoid danger in your life for yourself and your family, there is really no defence against crazy people with guns.  {#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/10219655.stm



    Edited (6/3/2010) by lady in red

    4704.       lemon
    1374 posts
     03 Jun 2010 Thu 10:31 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    The report on BBC World News this morning that it was Britain´s worse mass murder for 10 years. It was also surmised that it all started because of a family feud over a will.....{#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

    It seems that, however much you try to avoid danger in your life for yourself and your family, there is really no defence against crazy people with guns.  {#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/10219655.stm

     

    Life is short and is not safe guarranteed that is why I invite you to put your trust in God so you wont lose your life but gain it, because you are gonna pass away soon or later, and it doesnt end there.

     

    4705.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     03 Jun 2010 Thu 12:44 pm

    Birdy has flown the nest yet again!!

     

     

    4706.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     03 Jun 2010 Thu 04:54 pm

    BP is has a commercial on TV thanking the US government for their support during the recent fiasco!  What a load of crap!  They should save their money and not spend it on advertising....they are going to need it!

    4707.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Jun 2010 Fri 11:06 am

    The opening of a hotel in Rome - made from rubbish collected from European beaches!!

     

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10234605.stm

     

     

    ...I wonder if it´ll get any reviews on Trip Advisor? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4708.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     04 Jun 2010 Fri 12:11 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    BP is has a commercial on TV thanking the US government for their support during the recent fiasco!  What a load of crap!  They should save their money and not spend it on advertising....they are going to need it!

     

    Well, BP´s CEO had to do it after he ticked of the entire nation, by saying that this whole event was so hard, and he wanted his life back. YEAH! The guys who died on that platform also want their lives back! Now the CEO´s trying to create some goodwill amongst the American people by performing a very well practised, professionally written speech. Don´t think it´ll work

    4709.       gezegen
    269 posts
     04 Jun 2010 Fri 03:08 pm

    Today my eyes were for the first time cought by a deep feeling, that I may, might, can, could, will, would, shall and should fall in love with barba!

    4710.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     04 Jun 2010 Fri 06:12 pm

     

    Quoting gezegen

    Today my eyes were for the first time cought by a deep feeling, that I may, might, can, could, will, would, shall and should fall in love with barba!

     

     ...oh no...

    4711.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Jun 2010 Sat 06:41 pm

    Gokuyum´s profile comment:

     

    RETURN THE MEMBERSHIP OF SPRITZER AND APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR UNDEMOCRATIC ACTION. 

     

    What´s the point of this?  She´s back and in full swing isn´t she?

     


    4712.       gezegen
    269 posts
     07 Jun 2010 Mon 09:14 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     She´s back and in full swing isn´t she?

     

    Is she really back? Are you sure?

    4713.       gezegen
    269 posts
     07 Jun 2010 Mon 09:24 pm

    Jesus! I can´t believe my eyes! I see deli kizin online! {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

    4714.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:44 pm

    Dogs painted to create panda-dogs and dog-tigers 

    The mysterious human desire to paint its pet dogs so that they look like other animals which are not dogs has reared its head once more, with a selection of painted dogs being displayed in China. 

    ..

    http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/829734-...nd-dog-tigers

     

     

    I love pandas

    4715.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:54 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Dogs painted to create panda-dogs and dog-tigers 

    The mysterious human desire to paint its pet dogs so that they look like other animals which are not dogs has reared its head once more, with a selection of painted dogs being displayed in China. 

    ..

    http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/829734-...nd-dog-tigers

     

     

    I love pandas

     You may love pandas but I am sure these poor dogs are thinking the opposite!

     

    4716.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     08 Jun 2010 Tue 12:16 am

     

    Quoting gezegen

     

     

    Is she really back? Are you sure?

     

    Absolutely!

    4717.       gezegen
    269 posts
     08 Jun 2010 Tue 12:27 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    Absolutely!

     

    What is her new nickname then? (Feel free to pm me, if you cannot post it here)

    4718.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Jun 2010 Wed 05:06 pm

    Return of Speedos!!!

     

    Only a certain type of man wears Speedos. A certain type of, shall we say, deluded exhibitionist. The type of man who wants to show you his bacon and eggs before you’ve even agreed to have dinner with him, let alone breakfast.

    And the bad news is that he and his minitrunks are heading your way without delay.

    For reasons known to only themselves, British men are once more gung ho for the itsy bitsy, teeny weeny charms of the Speedo.

    .....

     

       

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1285143/The-return-Speedo.html 

    ....

     

    Woohoo



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth

    4719.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     09 Jun 2010 Wed 07:47 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Return of Speedos!!!

     

    Only a certain type of man wears Speedos. A certain type of, shall we say, deluded exhibitionist. The type of man who wants to show you his bacon and eggs before you’ve even agreed to have dinner with him, let alone breakfast.

    And the bad news is that he and his minitrunks are heading your way without delay.

    For reasons known to only themselves, British men are once more gung ho for the itsy bitsy, teeny weeny charms of the Speedo.

    .....

     

     

       

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1285143/The-return-Speedo.html 

    ....

     

    Woohoo

     

    ...thanks for the warning!  {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    Have to admit Prince William and David Beckham looked pretty good though Unfortunately not the norm!



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth

    4720.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     09 Jun 2010 Wed 07:51 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    ...thanks for the warning!  {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    Have to admit Prince William and David Beckham looked pretty good though Unfortunately not the norm!

     

    Definately not the norm!  I think it is the same for females in bikinis...some look nice others NOT!  Do you think this is some sort of "male revenge?"

    4721.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     09 Jun 2010 Wed 10:19 pm

    I heard speedos are required in public pools in France... SCORE!

    4722.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     11 Jun 2010 Fri 05:41 pm

     

    "fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.

    ...

    As soon as I plopped my feet into the warm water, black shoals formed around my limbs.

    My toes disappeared from view under a writhing mass of the darting creatures. These fish may not have teeth - but as I lowered my feet into the tank they felt like an army of tiny mouths munching my skin.

    The sensation wasn´t painful but it wasn´t exactly soothing either.

    Feeling the fish slither around my ankles made me squirm, but after ten minutes the tickling ebbed away and the experience became strangely relaxing.

    ...

     

    It eats away dry skin, which not only leaves the feet soft and smooth but also reduces stress levels, claim the spa owners.

    ...

     

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/..in-stress-busting-spa-foot-treatment.html

    ....

     

    I am stressed out.. Anybody wants to join?

    4723.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     11 Jun 2010 Fri 05:49 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    "fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.

    ...

    As soon as I plopped my feet into the warm water, black shoals formed around my limbs.

    My toes disappeared from view under a writhing mass of the darting creatures. These fish may not have teeth - but as I lowered my feet into the tank they felt like an army of tiny mouths munching my skin.

    The sensation wasn´t painful but it wasn´t exactly soothing either.

    Feeling the fish slither around my ankles made me squirm, but after ten minutes the tickling ebbed away and the experience became strangely relaxing.

    ...

     

    It eats away dry skin, which not only leaves the feet soft and smooth but also reduces stress levels, claim the spa owners.

    ...

     

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/..in-stress-busting-spa-foot-treatment.html

    ....

     

    I am stressed out.. Anybody wants to join?

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking} This is the MAIN reason I will not swim in the sea or a lake...its swimmng pools for me...why would anyone pay for this?  GROSS {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4724.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     11 Jun 2010 Fri 05:53 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    "fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.

    ...

     

     

    Oh I´ve heard of this before!  Funny, I was just sitting here bemoaning the state of my feet from constant flip-flop wearing!!!   Maybe it would be cheaper if I just went down and stood in the sea though - loads of small fish in the shallow waters [as opposed to the sharks in Bar Street lol ]

     

     

    TheH - what are you doing reading ´The Sun´?????   {#emotions_dlg.wtf}



    Edited (6/11/2010) by lady in red [just noticed the article link]

    4725.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     11 Jun 2010 Fri 06:26 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking} This is the MAIN reason I will not swim in the sea or a lake...its swimmng pools for me...why would anyone pay for this?  GROSS {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking} Yourself!!!!

     

    You are not invited anyway!! I have invited lemon to come with me!!

    While Feeling the fish slither around our ankles made use squirm we would both think how much you have missed that sensation!!

    And as it says in the article, we would be spreading our toes to make fish happy..

    You will be jealous!!

     

    "Boss Karen told me that spreading my toes would make the fish really happy, as they find this dead skin particularly tasty - and sure enough the tiddlers surged between them.

    They also fed extensively on my very dry - and slightly mangy - heels. The treatment was completed with a foot massage. My feet definitely looked and felt smoother, though the spa owners told me it takes around three treatments to get them baby soft.

    "

     

     

     

    4726.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     11 Jun 2010 Fri 07:23 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking} Yourself!!!!

     

    You are not invited anyway!! I have invited lemon to come with me!!

    While Feeling the fish slither around our ankles made use squirm we would both think how much you have missed that sensation!!

    And as it says in the article, we would be spreading our toes to make fish happy..

    You will be jealous!!

     

    "Boss Karen told me that spreading my toes would make the fish really happy, as they find this dead skin particularly tasty - and sure enough the tiddlers surged between them.

    They also fed extensively on my very dry - and slightly mangy - heels. The treatment was completed with a foot massage. My feet definitely looked and felt smoother, though the spa owners told me it takes around three treatments to get them baby soft.

    "

     

     

     

     

     You two have fun!  {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4727.       armegon
    1872 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 03:50 am

    http://www.tsk.tr/10_ARSIV/10_1_Basin_Yayin_Faaliyetleri/10_3_Bilgi_Notlari/2010/BN_65.html

    4728.       KemAle
    105 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 02:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    "fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.

     

    goodnessssss!!{#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    what if those fish get comfortable and end up eating your whole feet!! ouch!!

     

    i think i prefer the regular pedicure {#emotions_dlg.confused}{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

     

    by the way did you already try it handsome?? how was it?{#emotions_dlg.satisfied_nod}

    4729.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 02:30 pm

    /looks at her son´s fish tank and two goldfish swimming around/ Naah, it sounds just wrong {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    "fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.



    Edited (6/12/2010) by Daydreamer

    4730.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 04:29 pm

    Fancy getting your kit off in public tomorrow?

     

    Then get naked and ride your bike round London to protest against car culture and oil dependency.

    ..

    A peaceful, imaginative and fun protest against oil dependency and car culture. A celebration of the bicycle and also a celebration of the power and individuality of the human body.

    ...

    http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org/uk/

     

     

     



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth [Pictures removed. Link is provided if you really must see them.]

    4731.       KemAle
    105 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 06:55 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Fancy getting your kit off in public tomorrow?

     

    Then get naked and ride your bike round London to protest against car culture and oil dependency.

    ..

    A peaceful, imaginative and fun protest against oil dependency and car culture. A celebration of the bicycle and also a celebration of the power and individuality of the human body.

    ...

    http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org/uk/

     

     

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.wtf} i think i´d better go for the fish pedicure... ok ok nice cause but... again... ouch!



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth [Picture removed. Link is provided.]

    4732.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 09:55 pm

    English are screaming out of joy. I can hear them in my house. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    4733.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     12 Jun 2010 Sat 11:51 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    English are screaming out of joy. I can hear them in my house. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

     

    That´s because we´re so unused to winning anything even a draw has us ecstatic!

    4734.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Jun 2010 Mon 11:54 am

     

    Grup yorum is 25 years old..


    Wow..I still remember the first time I heard their songs years ago in an Istanbul cinema-cafe..It was in Beyoglu Emek. 

    I remember hearing this song  and asking the guy immediately who they were and then buying their cassette..

    Then their tireless and fearless string of concerts..(I am not exaggerating, once we were around 750 people in their concert in Besiktas and at least 100 of them were policemen...)

     

    And after all those years, they celebrated their 25th anniversary with 55.000 people..And this time with no police and with no incident!!

    Wow!! A great indication about how far Turkey has managed to advance with democracy!!

     

    http://www.beyazgazete.com/video/2010/06/13/grup-yorum-25-yasinda.html

     

    A song from them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ade158TzKUI&feature=related

     



    Edited (6/14/2010) by thehandsom

    4735.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     14 Jun 2010 Mon 01:21 pm

    Saw a documentary about Shell and the oil leakages in the Niger delta. The constant leakages have spread WAY more oil in the surrounding waters then the BP leak did. So the question pops into my head... is the media attention for this WAY lower because this is a long-term problem, slowly leaking oil everywhere (instead of starting with a big bang like the BP leak), or (way more likely) is this a matter of geography?

    4736.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Jun 2010 Mon 04:32 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Saw a documentary about Shell and the oil leakages in the Niger delta. The constant leakages have spread WAY more oil in the surrounding waters then the BP leak did. So the question pops into my head... is the media attention for this WAY lower because this is a long-term problem, slowly leaking oil everywhere (instead of starting with a big bang like the BP leak), or (way more likely) is this a matter of geography?

     

     Just my thoughts.....because the oil is leaking into the Niger delta (and not the Mississippi or the Danube for example) and is not hurting anyone from a Western country, people do not notice.  Africa has long since been suffering for the rest of the planet´s greed (oil, minerals, gem stones, diamonds).  Sad, shameful...but true. 

    4737.       si++
    3785 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 08:21 am

    Pentagon Manhunt

     

    ´; ]]>

    BS Top - Shenon Wikileaks

    Julian Assange

     

    Anxious that Wikileaks may be on the verge of publishing a batch of secret State Department cables, investigators are desperately searching for founder Julian Assange. Philip Shenon reports. Plus, Daniel Ellsberg tells The Daily Beast: "Assange is in Some Danger."

    (This story has been updated to reflect new developments on Assange´s whereabouts, including the cancelation of a scheduled appearance in Las Vegas.)

    Pentagon investigators are trying to determine the whereabouts of the Australian-born founder of the secretive website Wikileaks for fear that he may be about to publish a huge cache of classified State Department cables that, if made public, could do serious damage to national security, government officials tell The Daily Beast.

     

    Quoted from: here



    Edited (6/15/2010) by si++

    4738.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 09:00 am

    People from Wikileaks have been arrested and interrigated by American secret agents before. It was about the killing of innocent civilians and two war-photographers then, which Wikileaks was about to publish a video about. I think the people for this organization do great work. Knowledge is power, so I happily donated to this organization.

    4739.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 10:49 am

    This:

     

    Turkish Language Class User Statistics

    Users registered in the last 24 hours: 0Users registered in the last 7 days: 0 

     

     

     I don´t think there has been a day since these statistics were first available when  less than half a dozen new members were registered....and now look, not a single new registration in7 days.  {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

     

    I hope this a mistake or otherwise something is putting people off joining TC these days.........{#emotions_dlg.unsure}.   

     

     



     

     

     




    Edited (6/15/2010) by Elisabeth [Resized so that it would fit page.]
    Edited (6/15/2010) by lady in red [to ´unbreak´ page]
    Edited (6/15/2010) by lady in red [ditto]

    4740.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 11:05 am

     

    Quoting lady in red

    I don´t think there has been a day since these statistics were first available when less than half a dozen new members were registered....and now look, not a single new registration in 7 days.  {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

     

    I hope this a mistake or otherwise something is putting people off joining TC these days.........{#emotions_dlg.unsure}.   

     


     

    Are you implying that it is me? {#emotions_dlg.get_you}



    Edited (6/18/2010) by admin [To fix page format]

    4741.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 01:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Are you implying that it is me? {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

     

     dont worry dartsom Im interested in TC website and all accounts

     

    DJxxx

    4742.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 04:43 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Are you implying that it is me? {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

     

    No, you are a useful verbal punching bag! {#emotions_dlg.owned} It would be very quiet without you.  Nobody would have anyone to argue with.



    Edited (6/15/2010) by Elisabeth

    4743.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 04:44 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    I don´t think there has been a day since these statistics were first available when less than half a dozen new members were registered....and now look, not a single new registration in 7 days.  {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

     

    I hope this a mistake or otherwise something is putting people off joining TC these days.........{#emotions_dlg.unsure}.   

     


     Tried to resize this but it didn´t work...{#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

     



    Edited (6/18/2010) by admin [Fix page format]

    4744.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 04:46 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     Tried to resize this but it didn´t work...{#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

     

     

    It looked ok when I posted it - I´ll see if I can change mine then you can delete yours!

     

    Didn´t work ...not my fault



    Edited (6/15/2010) by lady in red

    4745.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:00 pm

    Maybe we should just keep posting until we get another page!  {#emotions_dlg.think}

    4746.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:04 pm

    OK

     



    Edited (6/15/2010) by lady in red

    4747.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:06 pm

    GOOD IDEA!

    4748.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:06 pm

    I WANT TO POST.....

    4749.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:07 pm

    ......SOMETHING ELSE SO....

    4750.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:07 pm

    ....I HOPE IT WORKS!

    4751.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:07 pm

    Good job...we fixed the formatting problem!!{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}  Thank you!

    4752.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:08 pm

    And this is a much better way to increase one´s post count than ´word games´  lol

    4753.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:09 pm

    So here is my ´proper´ post!

     

    Email I received - original source unknown, sorry. 


     

    Pass The Butter. Please.   

    This is interesting. .. .
     

    Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys.  When it killed the turkeys, the people who had put  all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their  heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get  their money back. 
    It was a white substance with no food appeal  so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in place of butter.  How do you like it?   They have come out  with some clever new flavorings..    


    DO  YOU KNOW.. 
    The difference between margarine and butter?  

    Read on to the end...gets very interesting!    


    Both  have the same amount of calories. 

    Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 
    8 grams; compared to5 grams for margarine. 

    Eating 
    margarine can increase  heart disease in women by 53%over   eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent  Harvard  Medical Study. 

    Eating 
    butter increases the absorption of many other nutrientsin other foods. 

    Butter
     has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few and   
    only because they are added! 


    Butter
     tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavours of other foods. 

    Butter
      has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years . 

    And now, for Margarine.. 


    Very High in Trans 
    fatty acids. 

    Triples risk of coronary 
    heart disease . 
    Increases total cholesterol
     and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) 

    Increases the risk of cancers up to five times..
     

    Lowers quality of 
    breast milk. 

    Decreases immune response. 

    Decreases 
    insulin response. 

    And  here´s the most disturbing fact.... HERE  IS  THE  PART  THAT  IS  VERY INTERESTING! 


    Margarine
      is but ONE  MOLECULE  away  from being PLASTIC...and shares 27 ingredients with PAINT 

    These facts alone were enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance).    

    You can try this yourself: 

    Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it open in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will notice a couple of things: 

    * no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it  (that should tell you something) 

    * it does not rot or smell differently because it has 
    no nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny micro organisms will not a find a home to grow.  Why?   Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?  

    Share This With Your Friends..... (If you want to butter them up´! 


    Chinese Proverb:  When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it,  you have a  moral obligation to share it with  others
     

    Pass the BUTTER PLEASE
     


     


     


     

    4754.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:11 pm

    ha ha

    Are you both blondes by any chance? lol lol 

    4755.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:14 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    ha ha

    Are you both blondes by any chance? lol lol 

     

    No!!!  {#emotions_dlg.you_smartass}- but you obviously forgot I am a psychopath {#emotions_dlg.rant}{#emotions_dlg.voodoodoll}



    Edited (6/15/2010) by lady in red [found a more appropriate smiley]

    4756.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Jun 2010 Tue 05:19 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

    So here is my ´proper´ post!

     

    Email I received - original source unknown, sorry. 


     

    Pass The Butter. Please.   

    This is interesting. .. .
     

    Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys.  When it killed the turkeys, the people who had put  all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their  heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get  their money back. 
    It was a white substance with no food appeal  so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in place of butter.  How do you like it?   They have come out  with some clever new flavorings..    


    DO  YOU KNOW.. 
    The difference between margarine and butter?  

    Read on to the end...gets very interesting!    


    Both  have the same amount of calories. 

    Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 
    8 grams; compared to5 grams for margarine. 

    Eating 
    margarine can increase  heart disease in women by 53%over   eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent  Harvard  Medical Study. 

    Eating 
    butter increases the absorption of many other nutrientsin other foods. 

    Butter
     has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few and   
    only because they are added! 


    Butter
     tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavours of other foods. 

    Butter
      has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years . 

    And now, for Margarine.. 


    Very High in Trans 
    fatty acids. 

    Triples risk of coronary 
    heart disease . 
    Increases total cholesterol
     and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol) 

    Increases the risk of cancers up to five times..
     

    Lowers quality of 
    breast milk. 

    Decreases immune response. 

    Decreases 
    insulin response. 

    And  here´s the most disturbing fact.... HERE  IS  THE  PART  THAT  IS  VERY INTERESTING! 


    Margarine
      is but ONE  MOLECULE  away  from being PLASTIC...and shares 27 ingredients with PAINT 

    These facts alone were enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance).    

    You can try this yourself: 

    Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it open in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will notice a couple of things: 

    * no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it  (that should tell you something) 

    * it does not rot or smell differently because it has 
    no nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny micro organisms will not a find a home to grow.  Why?   Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?  

    Share This With Your Friends..... (If you want to butter them up´! 


    Chinese Proverb:  When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it,  you have a  moral obligation to share it with  others
     

    Pass the BUTTER PLEASE
     


     


     


     

     

     Have I told you lately that I love you?  (almost as much as I love butter!!) Thanks for the good news.  This is the best post on TC in weeks! 

    4757.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     16 Jun 2010 Wed 05:33 pm

    Businessman Promote New Mobile Phone Network on The Serpentine

    LONDON, ENGLAND - JUNE 16: Men dressed as ´greedy businessmen´ wearing mankini swimming costumes stand next to the Serpentine Lake in Hyde Park for a mobile phone promotion on June 16, 2010 in London, England. Giffgaff promotes it´s new mobile phone tarrif as ´community-led´ 

     

    http://pictures.metro.co.uk/L....Mobile-Phone-Network-on-The-Serpentine

     

      

     



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth [Pictures removed. Link provided.]

    4758.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     16 Jun 2010 Wed 06:15 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Businessman Promote New Mobile Phone Network on The Serpentine

    LONDON, ENGLAND - JUNE 16: Men dressed as ´greedy businessmen´ wearing mankini swimming costumes stand next to the Serpentine Lake in Hyde Park for a mobile phone promotion on June 16, 2010 in London, England. Giffgaff promotes it´s new mobile phone tarrif as ´community-led´ 

     

    http://pictures.metro.co.uk/L....Mobile-Phone-Network-on-The-Serpentine

     

      

     

     

     

     Nobody wants to see what you do in your spare time, H....but I am glad to see that you are still waxing!{#emotions_dlg.puking}



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth [Link for pictures provided.]

    4759.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     16 Jun 2010 Wed 07:41 pm

    How did the "jokes" thread become "my sexual experiences" thread!!! {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}{#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4760.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 04:21 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    How did the "jokes" thread become "my sexual experiences" thread!!! {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}{#emotions_dlg.scared}

     

    We have certain members who will not stop "feeding the animals"?

    4761.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 07:02 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

      

     

     

    Sorry to be the one to bring this up but when another member posted photos of ladies with their asses hanging out of their skirts those photos were deleted.  So why is handsom allowed to repeatedly post photos of men showing way more skin than what we saw in the deleted photos of the women?  {#emotions_dlg.unsure}



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth [photos deleted.]

    4762.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 09:58 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Fancy getting your kit off in public tomorrow?

     

    Then get naked and ride your bike round London to protest against car culture and oil dependency.

    ..

    A peaceful, imaginative and fun protest against oil dependency and car culture. A celebration of the bicycle and also a celebration of the power and individuality of the human body.

    ...

    http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org/uk/

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    from the left BM, LIR, GG, FF, CW,THeHSM,

     

     

    dont use vulgar words in TC forum please

     

    donjuan kiss uxxxxxx



    Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth [photos removed]

    4763.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 01:09 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

    Sorry to be the one to bring this up but when another member posted photos of ladies with their asses hanging out of their skirts those photos were deleted.  So why is handsom allowed to repeatedly post photos of men showing way more skin than what we saw in the deleted photos of the women?  {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    I agree..

    You have to be sorry bringing up this!!

    I dont believe you are looking at those pictures from the amount of flesh being exposed and not taking any issues, such as nudity/exploitation of women/ art / violation of women´s civil rights etc, into consideration!! It seems to me you have no idea about nudity which is used in the form of art!!! Tut tut tut... 

    4764.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 04:47 pm

    All the pictures in question have been deleted.  If you must really see them, thehandsom has posted the links to the articles. 

     

    BTW - if you have a problem with somebody, please send a PM to an administrator.  We are all grown ups.  There is no reason to be so passive aggressive.

    4765.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 07:19 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    All the pictures in question have been deleted.  If you must really see them, thehandsom has posted the links to the articles. 

     

    BTW - if you have a problem with somebody, please send a PM to an administrator.  We are all grown ups.  There is no reason to be so passive aggressive.

     

    Hmm

    Are we allowed to post animal pictures? 

    n  

     

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4766.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 07:42 pm

    Are you testing me?  {#emotions_dlg.unsure} 

     

    As far as I know there is no animal rule. 

     

    But I prefer these:  http://www.crazyauntpurl.com/archives/2007/11/cats_in_sweater.php

     

     

    4767.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:48 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    All the pictures in question have been deleted.  If you must really see them, thehandsom has posted the links to the articles. 

     

    BTW - if you have a problem with somebody, please send a PM to an administrator.  We are all grown ups.  There is no reason to be so passive aggressive.

     

     if u all are grown ups, dont u see these pics dont need to send any PM to adminastrator, coz u are lawyer of some ppl in TC already, so u can do it and u managed to delete all pics; welldone it seems that u cared about my post

    DJ loves u, go on

     

    DJxxd

    4768.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 Jun 2010 Fri 02:00 am

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     

     

     

    DJ loves u, go on

     

    DJxxd

    {#emotions_dlg.shy}

     

    4769.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     18 Jun 2010 Fri 08:31 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Hmm

    Are we allowed to post animal pictures? 

    n  

     

     

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     clevergirl of TC, u had deleted all pictures but it seems that u have forgot them or u ignored coz these are his family picture

     

    DJxxx

     

    4770.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     18 Jun 2010 Fri 09:07 am

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     

     clevergirl of TC, u had deleted all pictures but it seems that u have forgot them or u ignored coz these are his family picture

     

    DJxxx

     

     

     my family members



    Edited (6/18/2010) by janissaridis [fun]

    4771.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 Jun 2010 Fri 09:27 pm

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     

     

     my family members

     

    But is your moustache as impressive?

     

    4772.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     18 Jun 2010 Fri 11:52 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    But is your moustache as impressive?

     

     if u like, it s mine

     

    4773.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     19 Jun 2010 Sat 10:45 am

    That bird on the Algerian goal.

    4774.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     19 Jun 2010 Sat 11:27 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    That bird on the Algerian goal.

     

     xx miss u

    4775.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Jun 2010 Mon 02:26 pm

    The Sun reveals!!!

     

    TWO traumatised dolphins are being held in this tiny swimming pool to entertain British tourists in Turkey..

    Bottlenoses Misha and Tom were thrown into the 11 by 22-metre pool at a shabby "holiday attraction" last week in the hope customers would pay to swim with them.

    In the harrowing video footage above, the animals can be seen bobbing up and down in the shallow water .. Experts believe the movement is a sign of distress.

    "....

    Chief executive Will Travers said: "I´m appalled, this is animal exploitation. The facility doesn´t meet welfare guidelines. I fear for these two dolphins´ lives."...

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3020424/Scandal-of-dolphins-captive-in-tiny-pool.html

     

    Who is this Will Travers?

    What is wrong with theSun? They are not British dolphines..Are they? 

    4776.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Jun 2010 Mon 03:29 pm

    New anti-rape female condom, Rape-axe

    ..

    A South African doctor has developed a new female condom that she hopes will combat rape in the most painful way possible.

    Dr. Sonnet Ehlers has invented Rape-axe, a female device with jagged hooks that latch onto a man´s penis during penetration...

    "It hurts," Ehlers told CNN. "He cannot pee and walk when it´s on. If he tries to remove it, it will clasp even tighter."...

    Rape-axe is inserted like a tampon and when embedded to a man the device can only be removed by a doctor.

    ...This will make some men rethink before they assault a woman.

     

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06.._world_cup.html

    4777.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Jun 2010 Tue 05:02 pm

    Looking for love, head to Turkey

     

    A survey conducted by leading online travel agent On the Beach reveals the top destinations that satisfy the most demanding holiday desires. 

    A good bet for a holiday fling is Turkey which was found to be a romance hot spot with 34 percent deeming the amorous locals the most flirtatious. Spain followed closely with over 24 percent encountering their holiday Romeo under the Spanish sun. 

    The Greeks have a more subtle approach to hospitality and were declared the ‘most welcoming nation’ by more than 48 percent of holidaymakers. 

    The French it seems are not so eager to please with only 12 percent of those polled experiencing a welcoming holiday.

    The Spanish lead the way in good manners and consideration when on the beach; however their fondness for nudity and canoodling still brought a blush to British cheeks. The Italians clung to their stallion status as responses said their beach etiquette made them appear posers and sex mad! 

    Italy was declared master chef as 51 percent considered Italian food delicious and having the best national cuisine, followed by Greece with 21 percent and Turkey with 20 percent. The French defied popular belief and scored just 2 percent of the vote while a whopping 55 percent thought French scoff to be just so-so. 

    For genuine service with a smile, Greece once again came out tops with 54 percent of those polled stating they have experienced excellent service. Turkey and Cyprus share the second spot, both gaining 15 percent of the vote. 

    The Spanish go that extra mile with 20 percent of British holidaymakers having experienced help above and beyond expectations, from lending money from strangers to patching up wounds  the Spaniards were always happy to help.

    http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk..e-head-to-turkey-411440

    4778.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     22 Jun 2010 Tue 05:05 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Looking for love, head to Turkey

     

     

     

    EARTH TO THEHANDSOM.....COME IN THEHANDSOM!  Have you been in a coma for the last 5 years?  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}



    Edited (6/22/2010) by Elisabeth

    4779.       alameda
    3499 posts
     23 Jun 2010 Wed 04:53 am

    Gasland....

    4780.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     23 Jun 2010 Wed 08:57 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Looking for love, head to Turkey

     

    A survey conducted by leading online travel agent On the Beach reveals the top destinations that satisfy the most demanding holiday desires. 

    http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk..e-head-to-turkey-411440

     

    WOW!!!  This whole article is ground-breaking news!!!! I wonder how much time and money they spent researching it. {#emotions_dlg.laugh_at}

    4781.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     23 Jun 2010 Wed 09:19 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    New anti-rape female condom, Rape-axe

    ..

    A South African doctor has developed a new female condom that she hopes will combat rape in the most painful way possible.

    Dr. Sonnet Ehlers has invented Rape-axe, a female device with jagged hooks that latch onto a man´s penis during penetration...

    "It hurts," Ehlers told CNN. "He cannot pee and walk when it´s on. If he tries to remove it, it will clasp even tighter."...

    Rape-axe is inserted like a tampon and when embedded to a man the device can only be removed by a doctor.

    ...This will make some men rethink before they assault a woman.

     

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06.._world_cup.html

     

     

    Hmmm . . . or a weapon for wives to use on cheating husbands?

    Would women have to walk around with one of these all the time?

     

    Change of subject . . . I am intrigued to know how you find the time to trawl the news sites for anything connected to sex.  Do you google key words?  Or perhaps, as an ICT "buff" (LIR note the pun there ) you have some sort of USB cable or hard drive attached between your PC and one of your orifices {#emotions_dlg.think}.



    Edited (6/23/2010) by peacetrain [typo]

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    4782.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     23 Jun 2010 Wed 03:51 pm

    Im here and waiting for it I will be awarded by Turkish travel agency soon new tittle:

     

    if u look for love, go to TR and met with DJ

    Im also half greek so we are in first and second

     

    polisj DJxxx

    4783.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     25 Jun 2010 Fri 04:13 pm

    Exhausted pandas rest 

     

    ..After cramming as much bamboo into their mouths as possible, the black-and-white bears were then seen slumped on a specially-made climbing frame, seemingly exhausted by their efforts. 

    ...

    Hungry work: Four of the ten pandas at Shanghai Zoo munch on bamboo

     

     

     

    Tired-out: Two of the pandas slump on a specially-made climbing frame, exhausted after their huge meal

    http://www.dailymail.co.unch.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

     

     

    I love pandas

    4784.       libralady
    5152 posts
     26 Jun 2010 Sat 07:57 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

     

    Hmmm . . . or a weapon for wives to use on cheating husbands?

    Would women have to walk around with one of these all the time?

     

    Change of subject . . . I am intrigued to know how you find the time to trawl the news sites for anything connected to sex.  Do you google key words?  Or perhaps, as an ICT "buff" (LIR note the pun there ) you have some sort of USB cable or hard drive attached between your PC and one of your orifices {#emotions_dlg.think}.

     

     Do you think that jaw like mechanism will stop women being beaten as well?  Me thinks not........ {#emotions_dlg.confused}

    4785.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     26 Jun 2010 Sat 09:38 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

    Hmmm . . . or a weapon for wives to use on cheating husbands?

     

     

    How would that work??  {#emotions_dlg.unsure} - unless the cheating husband they wanted to catch wasn´t their own.

     

     

    4786.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     26 Jun 2010 Sat 11:51 pm

    Why punish a cheating spouse? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} You just pack their things, change door locks and put their suitcases outside. No bother, really lol

    4787.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Jun 2010 Sun 05:45 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Why punish a cheating spouse? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} You just pack their things, change door locks and put their suitcases outside. No bother, really lol

     

    Actually, that is not legal, not here anyway. It can become very complicated, really. I know a woman who had a cheating husband that now has an excheating husband living in their shared by a judge (community property) home. He lives in one part and she in the other. It´s really very messy.

    4788.       alameda
    3499 posts
     27 Jun 2010 Sun 05:45 am

     

    Quoting libralady

     

     

     Do you think that jaw like mechanism will stop women being beaten as well?  Me thinks not........ {#emotions_dlg.confused}

     

    or mutilated or murdered....?

    4789.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Jun 2010 Mon 12:25 pm

     

    Oscar the bionic cat

     

    FIRST there was Six Million Dollar Man Steve Austin, then Bionic Woman Jaime Sommers - now meet Oscar, Britain´s lucky bionic cat

    Eight months after losing his paws in an accident, Oscar can now walk, run and climb on his revolutionary bionic legs / AP Source: AP

    ..

    Oscar is understood to be the first cat in the world to have the operation to attach the new feet, ..

     

     

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/..thought/story-e6freuy9-1225885347374

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmDqVN7vr8E

     

     

    =====

     

    My worry is how can he scratches himself with those metal paws!!!



    Edited (6/28/2010) by thehandsom

    4790.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     30 Jun 2010 Wed 12:15 am

    Recent spike in spamming!!! {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4791.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Jun 2010 Wed 01:09 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

    Recent spike in spamming!!! {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    Geeezz..

    I was just saying hello and how I can help them with their Turkish!! {#emotions_dlg.shy}

    4792.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Jun 2010 Wed 11:04 pm

    A Turkish website (an islamic marriage web site):

    http://www.gonuldensevenler.com/

    They say that "We are islamic marriage web site"

    We have made hundreds of people get married with the first marriage site we opened GonuldenSevenler.com with the purpose of saving the Turkish people from immoral web sites and deceptive dating sites

     

    And it says Total number of members: 613.963 (1.219 are online ){#emotions_dlg.nuts}

    ===

    I am filling up the membership form straight away .

    {#emotions_dlg.yes}

     

     

    4793.       slavica
    814 posts
     01 Jul 2010 Thu 03:19 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Oscar the bionic cat

    Oscar is understood to be the first cat in the world to have the operation to attach the new feet, ..

     

     

     

    The similar thing has happened in my country a couple of months ago, but the victim was a dog, Mila, the one-year-old mixed breed, discovered with all four of her legs cut off by (still) unknown perpetrator. The dog was brought to the Belgrade Veterinary Institution in a very serious condition since it was determined that beside the injuries to her legs she had also survived a heart attack and developed pneumonia.

    The only solution for Mila was to be fitted with prosthetic limbs, which are not manufactured anywhere in Serbia. Help was offered by many foreign clinics and it is even considered to perform the surgery in Serbia which would spare Mila the additional stress of the trip. Anyway, after The Belgrade Veterinary Institution announced that the dog’s condition had improved and that she was ready to start preparations for a surgery to fit her with prostheses, Deputy Secretary for Belgrade Utilities and Housing Services Vladimir Terzin has stated that Mila the dog will not be exposed to operations if the issue of her disability can be solved with orthopedic aids.The final decision about who, where and if Mila will undergo surgery will be made by an expert committee. In case of surgery, Mila will be the first dog in the world with prothesis at all four legs.

    Read more:

    Mutilated dog ready for surgery 

    Video of Mila making first steps with orthopedic paws

    Mila´s case caused numerous discussions about treatment of animals and persecuttion of animal abuse under Serbia´s law. Only Face Book group "Punishment for the monster who cut the dog all four legs" has more than 270.000 members in this moment. B92, Serbian television, radio and internet media outlet, after Mila´s case has decided to set up a fund to protect animals.

     

    4794.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     01 Jul 2010 Thu 06:23 am

     

    Quoting slavica

     

     

    The similar thing has happened in my country a couple of months ago, but the victim was a dog, Mila, the one-year-old mixed breed, discovered with all four of her legs cut off by (still) unknown perpetrator. The dog was brought to the Belgrade Veterinary Institution in a very serious condition since it was determined that beside the injuries to her legs she had also survived a heart attack and developed pneumonia.

    The only solution for Mila was to be fitted with prosthetic limbs, which are not manufactured anywhere in Serbia. Help was offered by many foreign clinics and it is even considered to perform the surgery in Serbia which would spare Mila the additional stress of the trip. Anyway, after The Belgrade Veterinary Institution announced that the dog’s condition had improved and that she was ready to start preparations for a surgery to fit her with prostheses, Deputy Secretary for Belgrade Utilities and Housing Services Vladimir Terzin has stated that Mila the dog will not be exposed to operations if the issue of her disability can be solved with orthopedic aids.The final decision about who, where and if Mila will undergo surgery will be made by an expert committee. In case of surgery, Mila will be the first dog in the world with prothesis at all four legs.

    Read more:

    Mutilated dog ready for surgery 

    Video of Mila making first steps with orthopedic paws

    Mila´s case caused numerous discussions about treatment of animals and persecuttion of animal abuse under Serbia´s law. Only Face Book group "Punishment for the monster who cut the dog all four legs" has more than 270.000 members in this moment. B92, Serbian television, radio and internet media outlet, after Mila´s case has decided to set up a fund to protect animals.

     

     

    Thank you for the update about this case, Slavica! I am so happy that this horrific, appalling incident has sparked some great effort to protect animals and that Mila is getting help.

    4795.       libralady
    5152 posts
     01 Jul 2010 Thu 05:40 pm

     

    Quoting slavica

     

     

    The similar thing has happened in my country a couple of months ago, but the victim was a dog, Mila, the one-year-old mixed breed, discovered with all four of her legs cut off by (still) unknown perpetrator. The dog was brought to the Belgrade Veterinary Institution in a very serious condition since it was determined that beside the injuries to her legs she had also survived a heart attack and developed pneumonia.

    The only solution for Mila was to be fitted with prosthetic limbs, which are not manufactured anywhere in Serbia. Help was offered by many foreign clinics and it is even considered to perform the surgery in Serbia which would spare Mila the additional stress of the trip. Anyway, after The Belgrade Veterinary Institution announced that the dog’s condition had improved and that she was ready to start preparations for a surgery to fit her with prostheses, Deputy Secretary for Belgrade Utilities and Housing Services Vladimir Terzin has stated that Mila the dog will not be exposed to operations if the issue of her disability can be solved with orthopedic aids.The final decision about who, where and if Mila will undergo surgery will be made by an expert committee. In case of surgery, Mila will be the first dog in the world with prothesis at all four legs.

    Read more:

    Mutilated dog ready for surgery 

    Video of Mila making first steps with orthopedic paws

    Mila´s case caused numerous discussions about treatment of animals and persecuttion of animal abuse under Serbia´s law. Only Face Book group "Punishment for the monster who cut the dog all four legs" has more than 270.000 members in this moment. B92, Serbian television, radio and internet media outlet, after Mila´s case has decided to set up a fund to protect animals.

     

     

     It is just unthinkable that a human being can be so cruel - I hope the person who did this is caught and is punished no less than they deserve.  I was shocked and appalled when I read the story on facebook.  In my view if someone can treat animals cruelly then they are capable of doing the same to humans. 

    In this case, it is good that so many people are doing something to help this little dog.

     

    And thank you Slavica for bringing this story to us.

    4796.       slavica
    814 posts
     02 Jul 2010 Fri 12:49 am

    Yeah, seems that sometimes people are the bigger beasts than animals

     

    No, unfortunatelly, the monster is not caught yet, but we all hope that in the end he will get the punishment he deserves.

     

    In the meanwhile, the council of doctors (including the biggest experts from German and Swiss specialized clinics) decided to not expose Mila to surgery, but to make her external/removable prostheses, which will provide her better  maintenance of hygiene and more normal life. After training her for normal life, the next step is to find a family who will adopt her. There are many candidates and special committee will make the criteria to be met by those who want to adopt Mila.



    Edited (7/2/2010) by slavica

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    4797.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Jul 2010 Fri 04:45 pm

    Britain´s oldest father at 78 

     

    Raymond Calvert, who became Britain´s oldest father at 78 after fathering a child with a woman who is 54 years younger to him, says that "The baby was planned and I did not use Viagra or anything like that." 

     

    Raymond and Charlotte Calvert, 25, have become proud parents of a baby boy. ...

    "The baby was planned and I did not use Viagra or anything like that. I didn´t actually think at my age that it would be possible to have a child, but he´s a beautiful little fella. I feel blessed. I look at that baby and I think, ´He´s so bloody healthy and good-looking - how did I make that?," ..

    Raymond met Charlotte after sharing a three-year relationship with her mother. 

    ..Charlotte said: "I realised it would be nice to have a baby Raymond. He has such a lot of nice qualities. I knew he´d be a great dad ...

     

    http://www.ndtv../i-didn-t-use-viagra-says-britain-s-oldest-father-35149

    ====

    He would be a great dad. Sure but for how long? {#emotions_dlg.doh}

    4798.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     02 Jul 2010 Fri 07:41 pm

    Planned? What a selfish twat. Sorry for my language, but becoming a father at that age is robbing your child of any chance of having a father.

    4799.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Jul 2010 Sat 07:19 pm

    TOILET - THEMED RESTAURANT

    ..toilet waste-shape icecream from a urinal-shape bowl at a toilet-themed restaurant..

    Modern Toilet is a restaurant in Taipei, Taiwan with a modern decor and a full-on toilet theme. All 100 seats in the crowded diner are made from toilet bowls, not chairs. . Sink faucets and gender-coded "WC" signs appear throughout the three-storey facility, one of 12 in an island-wide chain of eateries. Would you like to taste the ice-cream shaped like faeces? Probably not the best place to bring a child in potty training

    http://funfever.blogspot.com/2007/11/taiwans-modern-toilet-restaurant.html

    ===

    A perfect restaurant to go on a date  (with PT) 



    Edited (7/3/2010) by thehandsom
    Edited (7/3/2010) by thehandsom

    4800.       lemon
    1374 posts
     03 Jul 2010 Sat 07:25 pm

    Hairy, how are your pandas? Wasnt there recently any news about pandas? Are you neglecting your duties of informing TC on those cute exotic creatures? {#emotions_dlg.razz}

    4801.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Jul 2010 Sat 07:32 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    Hairy, how are your pandas? Wasnt there recently any news about pandas? Are you neglecting your duties of informing TC on those cute exotic creatures? {#emotions_dlg.razz}

     

    Lemon..

    How would you think of me neglecting my duties about pandas? {#emotions_dlg.stoneage}.

    Just check the previous page.

     

      

    4802.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     03 Jul 2010 Sat 07:49 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    ===

    A perfect restaurant to go on a date  (with PT) 

    PT? Public Toilet?

    {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    I´ll meet you at TWILIGHT (Eastend accent?)

    4803.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 12:39 am

    Three identical messages from memet166, all sent on different days and all asking me to help him with English. You´d think spammers could at least bother to read users´ profiles to learn that not everybody is a native English speaker {#emotions_dlg.voodoodoll}

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    4804.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 07:45 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     You´d think spammers could at least bother to read users´ profiles to learn that not everybody is a native English speaker {#emotions_dlg.voodoodoll}

    Your profile demonstrates the use of perfect English and "Location" doesn´t necessarily mean "Homeland, Country of Origin or First Language". . . of course that´s assuming the spammer can read English .

     

    Your post has made me think . . . Do usernames influence a spammer´s choice of target?

    Calling all spammers! What is your "modus operandi" ?

    Answers, in writing (in triplicate) to the President of the TLC Welcome Committee.

    Pott ?(tenuous )  WC?   I have toilets on the brain . . . I have a date

     

     

     



    Edited (7/4/2010) by peacetrain [toilet humour]

    4805.       lemon
    1374 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 08:55 am

    how come I never get a spam?

    4806.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 09:24 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Three identical messages from memet166, all sent on different days and all asking me to help him with English. You´d think spammers could at least bother to read users´ profiles to learn that not everybody is a native English speaker {#emotions_dlg.voodoodoll}

     

    I got one from him worded identically (including mistakes) to one I had 2 days earlier from ´Sangreal´ who was deleted for spam!  ´Can you help me with English or maybe just be my friend?´ was the gist of the message. I sent him a pm back saying ´weren´t you called Sangreal yesterday?´ and he sent back ´who is he?´. I replied ´don´t know but he sent identical message to me´ and this guy answered ´oh sorry - but do you want to be friends?´ {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    We need a Top 20 spammers list again!!!   lol lol

     

    4807.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 09:26 am

     

    Quoting lemon

    how come I never get a spam?

     

    I´ve sent you some

    4808.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 01:21 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    how come I never get a spam?

     

    Lemon or Lady in Red?  Lemon or Lady in Red? Lemon or Lady in Red?  Lemon or Lady in Red?

     

    If you are a spammer with little time, so judge by name only, who would you choose? 

     

    "Lemon" is a name that is not so gender revealing.  It is also associated with "sourness", whereas "Lady in Red" rings certain bells for most spammers.  Now . . . if you changed your name to "Lady in Lemon" . . .

    I also never get spam btw



    Edited (7/4/2010) by peacetrain [added another comment]

    4809.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 03:47 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

    "Lemon" is a name that is not so gender revealing.  It is also associated with "sourness", whereas "Lady in Red" rings certain bells for most spammers.  

    I also never get spam btw

     

    Actually, I get very little spam - I think its the people who post their photos on their profiles are generally the most spammed.  But a lot of spammers come on line and just send pms to everyone who is signed in at the same time as them.

    4810.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 04:42 pm

    The Tour de France... crossing Holland at the moment

    4811.       lemon
    1374 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 10:34 pm

    Not so bad I just got a spam. once a half year.

    4812.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 11:12 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Actually, I get very little spam - I think its the people who post their photos on their profiles are generally the most spammed.  But a lot of spammers come on line and just send pms to everyone who is signed in at the same time as them.

     

    I agree I checked my Turkish pictures that included myself in them, and they were viewed more than my general Turkish pictures! So I have decided to delete them, let´s see what happens to my spam-attraction now

    4813.       bydand
    755 posts
     04 Jul 2010 Sun 11:29 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Actually, I get very little spam - I think its the people who post their photos on their profiles are generally the most spammed.  But a lot of spammers come on line and just send pms to everyone who is signed in at the same time as them.

     

    I have my picture on my profile and I don´t get any spam.  {#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

    4814.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 12:21 am

     

    Quoting bydand

     

     

    I have my picture on my profile and I don´t get any spam.  {#emotions_dlg.sad}

     

    You made me chuckle .  I thinkit must be the smell of all those spices you are selling .

     

    I would never be brave enough to post my photo . . . too old, too ugly and too wrinkly Cry.  But I´ll experiment with a photo of my daughter lol.

    4815.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 11:39 am

    Thousands march with Pride across London gay pride celebrations

    ..

    Kicking things off at the front of the parade was the Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, who waved and smiled at the crowd, which gave him a warm reception.

    ..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10499614.stm

    I love this picture

     

    4816.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 01:41 pm

    Immoral sad Europe! {#emotions_dlg.puking}

    4817.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 03:31 pm

    Because there are only gay people and crazy-dressed performers in Europe

    4818.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 03:52 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    Immoral sad Europe! {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    Come on.. let them be whatever they want to be. 

    4819.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 04:04 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Come on.. let them be whatever they want to be. 

     

    Total exhibitionists?

    4820.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 04:18 pm

     

    Quoting lady in red

     

     

    Total exhibitionists?

     

    Yup! In Turkey they let the tourists walk around with less clothes then the guy on the picture

     

    4821.       lady in red
    6947 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 05:20 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Yup! In Turkey they let the tourists walk around with less clothes then the guy on the picture

     

     

    ....and they all look so attractive don´t they? {#emotions_dlg.laugh_at}

     

    4822.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 07:38 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Yup! In Turkey they let the tourists walk around with less clothes then the guy on the picture

     

     

    Immoral sad european tourists! Shame on Turkey too! {#emotions_dlg.confused}

    4823.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 07:46 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Come on.. let them be whatever they want to be. 

     

    Excuse me, am I limiting their freedom or what? Of course, let them downgrade whatever. This wont stop there, Europe will get more and more immoral, I guarantee you.

    4824.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 09:05 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    Immoral sad european tourists! Shame on Turkey too! {#emotions_dlg.confused}

     

    Are we starting this again? Shameless people are everywhere. It´s not just Europeans who "dress down". Stop generalising.

    4825.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 Jul 2010 Mon 10:42 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Are we starting this again? Shameless people are everywhere. It´s not just Europeans who "dress down". Stop generalising.

     

    Starting what? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    Europeans are shameless. I will repeat it again if you want. Europeans are shameless.

    Does it hurt you? Are you all Europeans? Or do you bear the shame for Europeans?

    Since when cant I give my opinion?

    You stop telling what I can generalise and what I cant.

    Barba, do not read my posts please!

    4826.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 10:23 am

    And South Americans, North Americans, Asians, Australians, and Africans are shameless too. Basically, people are shameless. When you say "Europeans" it´s like this is the only continent where people take their clothes of, which it clearly isn´t.

     

    for example, a South American woman, wearing about the same amount of clothes as that dirty European:

     

    I could not post the pictures of "shameless" African, Asian, Australian and North American women because they wouldn´t pass the erotic-filter.

    4827.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 10:28 am

    Going through pictures that describe how shamefull the world is, this caught my eye:

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    4828.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 02:06 pm

    Quick! Somebody´d better tell people in Africa and on the Pacific Islands that going around showing their private bits is immoral {#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4829.       lemon
    1374 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 05:24 pm

    Europeans are immoral because they once accepted the code of morality from a Biblical perspective. Before they were pagans thus were out of Law. They were called people of lawlessness.

    It is one thing to act knowing the morals widely known and practised against those morals and another thing when you are not aware of them.

    That is why I conclude Europeans are downgrading into more and more moral corruption.

     

     

    4830.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 08:10 pm

    I agree that the boundaries as to what is considered tolerable and not are being pushed further and further in Europe - just have a look at sexual minorities rights, even good aul Ireland passed a bill recognising gay marriages. Tattoos are not really for prisoners these days and dress code has changed enormously. Still, I don´t see nude people in the streets. I don´t think there´s need to panic attire-wise yet

     

    But people should re-think the way they bring up their children, there´s no respect for older people and thugs are getting more and more brutal. Fortunately, I live in a small town in Eire so there´s hardly any crime here (our local court is preoccupied with giving fines to people driving without tax or insurance). However, if I was to move to a big city, I´d fear for my little one´s safety

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    4831.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 08:38 pm

    I´m happy to be a European in that sense (more specifically Dutch), because I´m free to decide for myself what I think is moral or not. Nobody can tell me that I have to view being gay as immoral, and I feel lucky for that. Nobody can tell me how long or short my hemline should be. I make this choice myself. And this is a freedom I hold dear. I feel like this freedom is slipping away by racist and extremist on all sides. The racist break down people´s choice to be strict in religion. The extremists break down the choice to not follow a religion at all. Religion or faith is nothing if you didn´t make the choice for it from your heart, because YOU believe in it. The government has no place in forcing any type of faith on you, because it will be an empty faith.

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    4832.       lemon
    1374 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 10:31 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I´m happy to be a European in that sense (more specifically Dutch), because I´m free to decide for myself what I think is moral or not. Nobody can tell me that I have to view being gay as immoral, and I feel lucky for that. Nobody can tell me how long or short my hemline should be. I make this choice myself. And this is a freedom I hold dear. I feel like this freedom is slipping away by racist and extremist on all sides. The racist break down people´s choice to be strict in religion. The extremists break down the choice to not follow a religion at all. Religion or faith is nothing if you didn´t make the choice for it from your heart, because YOU believe in it. The government has no place in forcing any type of faith on you, because it will be an empty faith.

     

    That is the problem. Such people like you are the problem. I AM (MY OWN) GOD.

    Welcome New Europe! Welcome New World Order! Down with old fashioned morals! I can have sex with anyone I want. I can marry my own cat or dog, not your business! I want! I can! I have! I! I! I!

    No boundaries, no law, no shame!

    The government´s business is to keep it in order, not to force a religion on anyone. Roman Empire has done that thing! Forcing christianity on people. The result is that we have an empty and corrupt religion called Roman Catholicism and its daughter Protestantism.

     

    4833.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 10:35 pm

    I never said I am my own God. I just said that not you, or my government, or any other government is in the position to decide what my heart believes. If your government became communist, and told you you were not allowed to believe in God, and that you would get killed if you attended any sort or religious service, what would you do?

    4834.       lemon
    1374 posts
     06 Jul 2010 Tue 10:46 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    I never said I am my own God. I just said that not you, or my government, or any other government is in the position to decide what my heart believes. If your government became communist, and told you you were not allowed to believe in God, and that you would get killed if you attended any sort or religious service, what would you do?

     

    Oh, look at how quickly you replied! {#emotions_dlg.lol}

    You did say so. You said so in all your posts. They all say "I barba am God". I am the centre of my life!

    Listen to me, I´ve got no  authority over your life, I will never, neither I want it.

    As for government, it may have to some extent. It has such power and may be in the position of ruling over your life and even your heart.

    If my government wants to kill me for my belief let be it so! What can you do about that? I will be dead anyway soon or later. So, whats the point of your question? Are you saying that this life is dearer than the faith?  {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    4835.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     07 Jul 2010 Wed 03:45 pm

    Ufff ya, wouldn´t your life-after-death really suck if I am really God? Guess where you´re going

     

    And I´m saying faith is dearer than life. If the government wants to kill you for your faith, you´d be dead now. You can´t change what is in your heart just because the government tells you so. That is why I believe government has no place in ruling of your faith, in ruling over your heart. You are lucky that you are able to irritate me to pieces because you have that freedom. You ahve the freedom to rant on about what you believe, and to fill in your life accordingly. Government´s place is to make your life easier, by being a mediator in things like building roads, public planning, utilities, things like this. It has no business in deciding what happens in your heart, or even in your bedroom (as long as it is two consenting adults).



    Edited (7/7/2010) by barba_mama
    Edited (7/7/2010) by barba_mama

    4836.       lemon
    1374 posts
     07 Jul 2010 Wed 09:25 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Ufff ya, wouldn´t your life-after-death really suck if I am really God? Guess where you´re going

     

    And I´m saying faith is dearer than life. If the government wants to kill you for your faith, you´d be dead now. You can´t change what is in your heart just because the government tells you so. That is why I believe government has no place in ruling of your faith, in ruling over your heart. You are lucky that you are able to irritate me to pieces because you have that freedom. You ahve the freedom to rant on about what you believe, and to fill in your life accordingly. Government´s place is to make your life easier, by being a mediator in things like building roads, public planning, utilities, things like this. It has no business in deciding what happens in your heart, or even in your bedroom (as long as it is two consenting adults).

     

    Thank God. He is not Dutch and a hippie He is soverign.

    I do not need your freedom to rant. Are you saying that the first christians who were persecuted and killed for their faith were not lucky? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}  I think they were blessed more than me.

    The role of the government differs from country to country.

    To my mind it should control the morality to some extent for the country´s sake in the long term case. Imagine 50% of the society is gay. What will happen to the demography? Will you start growing babies in incubators? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}  I do not believe in the total freedom. Try that total freedom on your children and you will see into what they will grow up.

    Freedom is not everything for a person to live. God is. When you die you will stand before Him and He will say to you: "Depart from me! I do not know you!" For that reason you should seek Him now.

     

    4837.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     07 Jul 2010 Wed 09:44 pm

    The world is over-populated. This over-population is actually killing the world. Perhaps God is making people gay to make sure there are less humans around God works in mysterious ways...

    4838.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     07 Jul 2010 Wed 11:43 pm

    Fired up feminists burn cash over pay gap:

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100706/od_nm/us_sweden_odd_feminist

     

    I was thinking the money would be better spent if it was donated to a cause for women...{#emotions_dlg.yes}



    Edited (7/7/2010) by Elisabeth

    4839.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 12:07 am

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Fired up feminists burn cash over pay gap:

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100706/od_nm/us_sweden_odd_feminist

     

    I was thinking the money would be better spent if it was donated to a cause for women...{#emotions_dlg.yes}

     

    They could have spent that money in Turkey with young dudus. {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

    4840.       lemon
    1374 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 09:30 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    The world is over-populated. This over-population is actually killing the world. Perhaps God is making people gay to make sure there are less humans around God works in mysterious ways...

     

    You are so much soaked with New Age stuff. You speak things and dont give a toss to what you say. You repeat things you hear from the media.

    The world is not over-populated and it will never be. This earth was designed for multiplication of men.

    E.g. Africa is so rich that there shouldnt be poverty at all. Do you think they starved before white men appeared there? No, they were doing perfectly well with food.

    Most coffee, tea, cacao, fruits and tabaco plantations are in the poorest countries. If those people received decent salaries for their hard work they wouldnt starve. But because you and I want good products for a low price the companies make fortunes.

    You and I live in abundance of everything. We buy and make richest people more rich. We buy food often 2 for the price of 1 (a trick) and then we dont actually consume all. Most things in our fridges are thrown away after a few days, because we bought it out of greed.

    The eilte divided the world into two parts. One tiny part that is too rich and other bigger part too poor.  And then you boast that you are European and moan if people from poor country want to come to your country and share the wealth that your country´s stolen years ago and still is stealing.

    You, Barba live in delusion, and probably die in delusion.

    4841.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 09:39 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    The world is over-populated. This over-population is actually killing the world. Perhaps God is making people gay to make sure there are less humans around God works in mysterious ways...

     

     these opinons are valid for boratysdan, poland and the nedherlands so that women move to see Turkish men, love and hospitality 

     

    DJ is back xx

    4842.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 09:42 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    You are so much soaked with New Age stuff. You speak things and dont give a toss to what you say. You repeat things you hear from the media.

    The world is not over-populated and it will never be. This earth was designed for multiplication of men.

    E.g. Africa is so rich that there shouldnt be poverty at all. Do you think they starved before white men appeared there? No, they were doing perfectly well with food.

    Most coffee, tea, cacao, fruits and tabaco plantations are in the poorest countries. If those people received decent salaries for their hard work they wouldnt starve. But because you and I want good products for a low price the companies make fortunes.

    You and I live in abundance of everything. We buy and make richest people more rich. We buy food often 2 for the price of 1 (a trick) and then we dont actually consume all. Most things in our fridges are thrown away after a few days, because we bought it out of greed.

    The eilte divided the world into two parts. One tiny part that is too rich and other bigger part too poor.  And then you boast that you are European and moan if people from poor country want to come to your country and share the wealth that your country´s stolen years ago and still is stealing.

    You, Barba live in delusion, and probably die in delusion.

     

    probably god works on european to decrease over populations but u all european work on Turkish to minimize them we are viagra of EU dont worry we can help u to solve your population problem

    DJXXX

    4843.       lemon
    1374 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 10:07 am

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     

     

    probably god works on european to decrease over populations but u all european work on Turkish to minimize them we are viagra of EU dont worry we can help u to solve your population problem

    DJXXX

     

    If only I could understand your sarcasm.

     

    4844.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 10:25 am

    Africa is starving in part because war and the bad crops they had over the last few years. Reason of wars is often fights over food and other resources. Reasons of the bad crops? Climate change. Reason for climate change? There are too many people putting to much cr*p in the environment. Think about it dear lemon, it makes sense

    And the human race has done more the "multiply" ... multiply in it´s purest form means to make 2 of 1. So, this would mean, I have two kids... leaving the population exactly the same as it was. Or, at most, my husband and I have four kids. Over the years humans have boinked around like bunnies, and they made many more babies on average than that. And we made a medical system that worked too darn well. God´s just adapting the sexuality of people to our horniness and medical system. And by the way, the estimated average of gay people around the world is about 8% in every country. It´s not a European thing. It´s not even a human thing. There are gay animals too.

    4845.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     08 Jul 2010 Thu 11:26 am

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    If only I could understand your sarcasm.

     

     u will never understand me if u were understand, you would be like BM

     

    4846.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Jul 2010 Fri 04:29 pm

    Bobbi Eden promises Netherlands fans a "happy ending" if Holland win World Cup


    Dutch porn star Bobbi Eden has promised her Twitter followers a "happy ending" if Holland win the World Cup this Sunday night when they take on Spain.


    She told an adult website this week: "People have asked what we are going to do if Holland wins? All I can say is that I have stocked up...and you are going to have to follow to find out!

     

    "As with all things in adult... we intend to give our followers a very ´happy ending´."

     

    This is what her Twitter said:

    "If the Netherlands win the 2010 FIFA World Cup, I will give a BJ to all my followers, together with vickyvette @ @ @ misshybrid and gabbyquinteros," she tweeted.

    And with the ´hot´ promise, Eden´s followers multiplied like anything - from 4804 to over 87000 in a matter of hours!

    http://www.oddspreview.com/..201007090026/

    ===

    Come on Netherlands!!!

     

    4847.       armegon
    1872 posts
     09 Jul 2010 Fri 11:33 pm

    This sunday is the anniversary of Srebrenitza holocaust which caught my eye in a newspaper. In my opinion Srebrenitza showed off the real face of civilized Europe, in this modern age and in the middle of Europe...

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    4848.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     10 Jul 2010 Sat 12:13 am

    People should read a bit more about Srebrenitza. What happened there was absurd. Next to leaving many people killed, it also left many people traumatised. Thanx for making it catch my eye again.

    4849.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     11 Jul 2010 Sun 11:00 am

    In the summer of 1995, two years after being designated a United Nations Safe Area, the Bosnian town of Srebrenica became the scene of the worst massacre in the Bosnian war.

     civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU ......... they all are modern when they talk to muslims(?).

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    4850.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     11 Jul 2010 Sun 06:30 pm

     

    Quoting janissaridis

    In the summer of 1995, two years after being designated a United Nations Safe Area, the Bosnian town of Srebrenica became the scene of the worst massacre in the Bosnian war.

     civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU ......... they all are modern when they talk to muslims(?).

     

    What a limited view to make this a modern political thing, instead of seeing the human suffering. This isn´t about the EU talking to Muslim countries. It was UN troops who were at Srebrenica... the UN is an organisation of which Muslim countries are also members. The massacre shows how much people can hate eachother, when they are basically the same. Differences that were so insignificant were used to create a whole war, and killed many many people. Srebrenica was a failing of the entire human race, just as we see this kind of massive failures today.

    4851.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     11 Jul 2010 Sun 08:53 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    What a limited view to make this a modern political thing, instead of seeing the human suffering. This isn´t about the EU talking to Muslim countries. It was UN troops who were at Srebrenica... the UN is an organisation of which Muslim countries are also members. The massacre shows how much people can hate eachother, when they are basically the same. Differences that were so insignificant were used to create a whole war, and killed many many people. Srebrenica was a failing of the entire human race, just as we see this kind of massive failures today.

    I agree with much of what you say but it´s not only about the EU talking to Muslim countries but European countries communicating with their own Muslim populations. Of course it´s a two way process and it is up to Muslim immigrants to interact with people of the country they have chosen to settle in.  It takes a great deal of work on both sides and there will always be those at either end of the continuum who will try to "put a spanner in the works". 

    I remember being shocked when war broke out in the former Yugoslavia.  I never visited there but I only ever knew it as a place where people went for a holiday, Summer and Winter holidays. It is was a sobering thought, that such an unspeakable event could happen relatively close to home, in a "picture postcard" place.  It made me less naive and more aware of the politics of the wider world.  It is something that must never be forgotten.

     

     

    4852.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 12:25 am

    What caught my eye was the Spanish offside before they made that goal... Too bad it didn´t catch the referee´s eye!!! {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

    4853.       bydand
    755 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 01:17 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    What caught my eye was the Spanish offside before they made that goal... Too bad it didn´t catch the referee´s eye!!! {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

     

     What didn´t catch your eye was that two Dutch players should have been sent off in the first half for dangerous play.  {#emotions_dlg.neutral}

    4854.       armegon
    1872 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 01:28 am

    Yeah in the first position it seems offside, they missed, i dont know if it could be categorized as what they call passive offside. Anyway before the goal, referee also missed the corner after Holland´s freekick, how come he missed i dont know, it was very clear, and turning ball became Spain goal. When Spain counter-attacking before goal, i was thinking that Holland should have made foul but they did not, big mistake, you have one player missing and just 4 minutes left. 

    Moreover Heitinga did not deserve second yellow card, Iniesta acted well as he always does. Imo penalty shoot out would have been fair to determine the winner. And no need to mention Arjen Roben missed two important chances, i guess he cannot sleep for one week, pity for the Holland...

    Quoting barba_mama

    What caught my eye was the Spanish offside before they made that goal... Too bad it didn´t catch the referee´s eye!!! {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

     

     

    4855.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 06:46 am

    Oh, BM  - you´re just disappointed you lost to Spain You should have listened to Paul the Octopus and save yourself the nerves

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    4856.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 09:43 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    What a limited view to make this a modern political thing, instead of seeing the human suffering. This isn´t about the EU talking to Muslim countries. It was UN troops who were at Srebrenica... the UN is an organisation of which Muslim countries are also members. The massacre shows how much people can hate eachother, when they are basically the same. Differences that were so insignificant were used to create a whole war, and killed many many people. Srebrenica was a failing of the entire human race, just as we see this kind of massive failures today.

     

     what a simple opinion u have and your comment...it is like a child had written these...if this event happened in any EU countries, do u know what would happened...few years ago few  explosion were happened in Uk and UK behaved that all muslims are terrorists. and there are many examples...for instance, in 1915s , few armenian died in anatolia during war now Turkey is guilty for these coz some christians were killed ,they ignore how much turks were killed by armenian..

     

    before posting TC forums, u should read abit about topic, dont behave like a children, if u wanna do that go to kindergarten..

     

    DJ xxx

    4857.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 12:28 pm

    Janissary,

    Now you greatly exaggerate. I guarantee you that neither PT nor BM hate turks and muslims.

    Opposite, they love everyone and everything.

    Prove me otherwise if Im wrong. Bring me their posts of turkish hatred.

    4858.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 01:26 pm

    Ofcourse I hate Turks and Muslims. That´s way I´m doing my best to learn Turkish, so I can scream at them at their own language. I also beat all the Turkish "friends" and "family" that I have with a stick when I see them... Oh I can´t wait to have my Turkish babies so I can start beating them too!

    As a Dutch person I know enough about what happened. It was Dutch UN troops that were outnumbered that day, and came into the strange and utterly disgraceful position that will hunt our nation forever. Hold your tongue next time. Just because you don´t agree with me doesn´t mean I´m uninformed. It just means my view is different than yours.

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    4859.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 02:37 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    Janissary,

    Now you greatly exaggerate. I guarantee you that neither PT nor BM hate turks and muslims.

    Opposite, they love everyone and everything.

    Prove me otherwise if Im wrong. Bring me their posts of turkish hatred.

     ahh sorryy,I forgot that I must  add u to list:BM, PT, Lemon...

     

     

    Im not janissary, Im janissaridis; if u dont see take your glasses first..

     

    xxx

     

    4860.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 02:42 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    Ofcourse I hate Turks and Muslims. That´s way I´m doing my best to learn Turkish, so I can scream at them at their own language. I also beat all the Turkish "friends" and "family" that I have with a stick when I see them... Oh I can´t wait to have my Turkish babies so I can start beating them too!

    As a Dutch person I know enough about what happened. It was Dutch UN troops that were outnumbered that day, and came into the strange and utterly disgraceful position that will hunt our nation forever. Hold your tongue next time. Just because you don´t agree with me doesn´t mean I´m uninformed. It just means my view is different than yours.

     

     so talk aout the things that u were informed...I dont care if u are DUTCH or not..

     

    seker Ayhan, what was the topic  than u liked...we are not talking about Armenian issue or sex....peahh...read post first...

     

    DJ xxx

     

    4861.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 03:21 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

    I agree with much of what you say but it´s not only about the EU talking to Muslim countries but European countries communicating with their own Muslim populations. Of course it´s a two way process and it is up to Muslim immigrants to interact with people of the country they have chosen to settle in.  It takes a great deal of work on both sides and there will always be those at either end of the continuum who will try to "put a spanner in the works". 

    I remember being shocked when war broke out in the former Yugoslavia.  I never visited there but I only ever knew it as a place where people went for a holiday, Summer and Winter holidays. It is was a sobering thought, that such an unspeakable event could happen relatively close to home, in a "picture postcard" place.  It made me less naive and more aware of the politics of the wider world.  It is something that must never be forgotten.

     

     

     

    I think, The entire split of former Yugoslavia should be looked at from slightly different angle.  I think, that "part of Europe" was never considered as a real  part of Europe for years.

    It is like east of Turkey or Kurds of Turkey.. They are part of Turkey but somehow is it is different. I think all those new nation states are part of EU but somehow different than the west of Europe..

    Most of them had Ottoman experience for centuries; they were always seen a bit less developed; they are relatively new in the history; their democracy process is different; the way they become nation states were different.. Just 100 years ago they massacred each other and Turks.. 

    I am not trying lessen the effect of thousands of muslims-men(or women children)  being butchered cowardly after surrendering in the middle of Europe of course..It is such a shame and that shame wont go off for years.. 

     

    4862.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 07:23 pm

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     

     

     so talk aout the things that u were informed...I dont care if u are DUTCH or not..

     

    seker Ayhan, what was the topic  than u liked...we are not talking about Armenian issue or sex....peahh...read post first...

     

    DJ xxx

     

     

    I AM informed, simply because being Dutch means we had may many MANY reports on why, and how this could happen. Do you think nobody investigated the horrible mistakes that were made there by the U.N.? Read before you talk.

    About Yugoslavia being a part of Europe. In my opinion there is no Europe. It´s a fabricated thing. In the long history of this continent we had many wars amongst eachother. I don´t feel like the people from Yugoslavia were my European brothers and sisters, but I don´t feel that kind of connection with people from Italy either. The only connection I felt was a human connection when I saw the suffering on tv, but it has nothing to do with Europe.

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    4863.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 08:03 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    I AM informed, simply because being Dutch means we had may many MANY reports on why, and how this could happen. Do you think nobody investigated the horrible mistakes that were made there by the U.N.? Read before you talk.

    About Yugoslavia being a part of Europe. In my opinion there is no Europe. It´s a fabricated thing. In the long history of this continent we had many wars amongst eachother. I don´t feel like the people from Yugoslavia were my European brothers and sisters, but I don´t feel that kind of connection with people from Italy either. The only connection I felt was a human connection when I saw the suffering on tv, but it has nothing to do with Europe.

     welldone

    DJxxx

     

    4864.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 11:18 pm

     

    Quoting janissaridis

    ...few years ago few  explosion were happened in Uk and UK behaved that all muslims are terrorists.

     

    I know many that weren´t so ignorant and short sighted, including myself.

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    4865.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     12 Jul 2010 Mon 11:56 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

    Opposite, they love everyone and everything.

     

    Don´t worry Lemon, I detect the condescending manner here.  But that´s OK.  I´m the first to admit I´m a lightweight when it comes to European politics. I know that in recent decades the UK has had it "easy" compared to some.  This is the point I was trying to make when I mentioned what happened to the former Yugoslavia.

    But I don´t love everyone {#emotions_dlg.wtf}  (actually . . . come to think of it I DO love everyone {#emotions_dlg.flowers} "I love you all" )

     

    And Janis . . .

    Facts are great but not instead of opinion.  I don´t have to regurgitate facts in order to say how horrendous I believe an action or event to be. I don´t care that my opinions are simple (drat I´m making myself sound like a simpleton . . .)  I´m not trying to prove anything.  If I say "You are muck!" shall I back that up with facts about what constitutes muck?

    If you don´t understand what I´m saying . . . tough, I can live with it.

    People are entitled to express their opinions and another opinion of mine is you are being arrogant and a bully this evening.  (You can find the evidence in your posts but if you want a more in depth analysis I suggest you visit thehandsom´s couch.)

    Now go and stand in the corner {#emotions_dlg.rant}

     

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    4866.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 12:08 am

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU .........civilised EU ......... they all are modern when they talk to muslims(?).

    If this is a criticism of the EU and you are having "a dig" at them for their negative approach, then I agree with you. 

    Perhaps I shall keep to the simple option of clicking the "like" button instead of supporting in my own words.  That way there will be no ambiguity. 

     

    (Thinks . . . but then I will be known as a member of the Clicker Club . . . sometimes you just can´t win . . . I love everyone . . . I love everyone . . . I love everyone . . . I love everyone . . . I love Ja . . . ahem . . . I love everyone)

     

    4867.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 10:59 am

    It seems there are a lot of French students that pay for university and rent through prostitution. 40.000 students are in the prostitution, with the majority being women. That´s 1 in every 57 students!!! Shocking.

     

     

    4868.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 02:37 pm

    Iran issues list of approved Muslim hairstyles for men

    Iran is set to order a crackdown on men sporting ´un-Islamic´ haircuts.

    Long hair and ponytails are definitely out this summer - though a dab of gel is acceptable, according to the country´s morality police.

    ...

    the rest

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...issues-style-guide-for-mens-hair.html

    ====

    That is a bit harsh, I think !!

    4869.       lemon
    1374 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 02:58 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    Iran issues list of approved Muslim hairstyles for men

    Iran is set to order a crackdown on men sporting ´un-Islamic´ haircuts.

    Long hair and ponytails are definitely out this summer - though a dab of gel is acceptable, according to the country´s morality police.

    ...

    the rest

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...issues-style-guide-for-mens-hair.html

    ====

    That is a bit harsh, I think !!

     

     

    I see no wrong in this. I prefer when people have calm and modest style both of hair and clothing.

    4870.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 03:11 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    I see no wrong in this. I prefer when people have calm and modest style both of hair and clothing.

     

    Ofcourse you don´t....it´s just great when a government even decides what your hairstyle can be.

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    4871.       lemon
    1374 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 06:42 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    Ofcourse you don´t....it´s just great when a government even decides what your hairstyle can be.

     

    How true!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    You are right, when the gov does things along my choice then I see no wrong.  {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

    But on the other hand, the gov in Iran make me laugh by dealing with such stupid things. I wonder how far they will go with this? You know, one day people will break and go against all their persecutors demanding blood and justice, it may turn into bloody revolution again. So, I am thinking that religious gov should learn their borders. Iran is not Saudi where most people are wealthy and enjoy their private life as they wish behind closed doors they can do many things.

    4872.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 08:02 pm

    Panda Basi is 30 yo.. woohoo

     

    Thirty-year-old giant panda Basi eats on her birthday at a panda base in Fuzhou, Fujian province, on July 11, 2010. More than thirty teachers and students from the Chinese mainland and Taiwan came to visit Basi on Sunday. 

    Basi´s thirty years of life are equivalent to a human´s one hundred years, proving her to be a lucky bear. 

    http://english.sina.com/china/p/2010/0711/328749.html

     

      

     

     

     

    Happy B Day Basi!!

    4873.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 09:18 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Panda Basi is 30 yo.. woohoo

     

    Thirty-year-old giant panda Basi eats on her birthday at a panda base in Fuzhou, Fujian province, on July 11, 2010. More than thirty teachers and students from the Chinese mainland and Taiwan came to visit Basi on Sunday. 

    Basi´s thirty years of life are equivalent to a human´s one hundred years, proving her to be a lucky bear. 

    http://english.sina.com/china/p/2010/0711/328749.html

     

      

     

     

     

    Happy B Day Basi!!

     

    Are you still dressing in your panda suit for attention, H?  {#emotions_dlg.ninja}  

     

    4874.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 09:45 pm

     

    Quoting janissaridis

     

     haha,  thaks god u dont love me toowuhuuu u love zartzom it is easy to talk from london come to istanbul or kavala

    it is not Donkey Juan, I remind you

    u are really ignorant, search in GOOGLE, than u will be informed that is not DJ

     

    Dear D´OH Juan,

     

    I don´t need to google to know who that legendary figure is, but I see you more of a "leg-  end"  (a wooden juan). 

     

    Take care

    4875.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 09:48 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Panda Basi is 30 yo.. woohoo

     

    Thirty-year-old giant panda Basi eats on her birthday at a panda base in Fuzhou, Fujian province, on July 11, 2010. More than thirty teachers and students from the Chinese mainland and Taiwan came to visit Basi on Sunday. 

    Basi´s thirty years of life are equivalent to a human´s one hundred years, proving her to be a lucky bear. 

    http://english.sina.com/china/p/2010/0711/328749.html

     

      

     

     

     

    Happy B Day Basi!!

     

    Any relation to Count Basie?  What´s she like on the piano?

    4876.       lemon
    1374 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 10:38 pm

    Our dear bro Yilgun is again bored. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

    4877.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     13 Jul 2010 Tue 11:08 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    Our dear bro Yilgun is again bored. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

     

     Was thinking the same thing....I wonder what lists/questions he will come up with next? 

    What type of writing instrument do you use?

    How many different types of beans are there?

    What is your opinion about cabbage?

     

    4878.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 02:23 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

    This isn´t about the EU talking to Muslim countries. It was UN troops who were at Srebrenica... the UN is an organisation of which Muslim countries are also members. ...........Srebrenica was a failing of the entire human race, just as we see this kind of massive failures today.

     

    But Barba....in your own words....it was....Dutch troops... who were responsible for taking care of things there....

    "As a Dutch person I know enough about what happened. It was Dutch UN troops that were outnumbered that day, and came into the strange and utterly disgraceful position that will hunt our nation forever"

    4879.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 07:57 am

     

    Quoting janissaridis

    muckkkk

    Dear Don Jock,

     

    There is only one ´k´ in muck.

     

    No longer "forever DJ xxx", I see.

     

    Thank you for your contributions "Done Juan forever".

     

    btw . . . this is a "Dear Juan" letter

    Bye forever

     

     

    4880.       janissaridis
    148 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 11:17 am

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

    Dear Don Jock,

     

    There is only one ´k´ in muck.

     

    No longer "forever DJ xxx", I see.

     

    Thank you for your contributions "Done Juan forever".

     

    btw . . . this is a "Dear Juan" letter

    Bye forever

     

     

     hah, teach these all to your child not to me

    bye forever, I dont wanna give you a lovely and sweet ´´muckkk´´ anymore...peahhh!!!

    dont wanna see u around be good person, dont be naughty..heayytt..!!

     

    DJ kisses other members

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    4881.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 07:11 pm


    Man Kills 200,000 ants for artwork.


    An artist has created a protrait from 200, dead ants



    What do you think about



    the visual is at the link


    Edited (7/14/2010) by alameda [font size problem]

    4882.       lemon
    1374 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 07:34 pm

    I need to have a magnifying glass to read your post. Wy are you writing in this style?

    I wonder where you get such news. I categorically dont care. {#emotions_dlg.whistle}  cockroaches would be a better idea though. Where is his art? wanna see it. {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

     

    Quoting alameda

    Man kills 200,000 ants for artwork.

    An artist has created a portrait from 200,000 dead ants.

    What do you think about

    this?

    FWIW...I think it is disgusting.

     


     

     

    4883.       alameda
    3499 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 09:14 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

    I need to have a magnifying glass to read your post. Wy are you writing in this style?

    I wonder where you get such news. I categorically dont care. {#emotions_dlg.whistle}  cockroaches would be a better idea though. Where is his art? wanna see it. {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

     

    Sometimes the notepad editor doesn´t work well for cut and paste

    I retyped it all and hope it is fixed now.

    The visual is at the link

     

    4884.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 09:32 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    Sometimes the notepad editor doesn´t work well for cut and paste

    I retyped it all and hope it is fixed now.

    The visual is at the link

     

     

     Better thanks...I don´t have to get my readers out!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4885.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 10:07 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Better thanks...I don´t have to get my readers out!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    "readers" . . . reminds me of something funny that I did a few weeks ago.

     

    I spent most of the day using a pair of reading glasses . . . it was only at the end of the day that I realised they weren´t mine . . . belonged to one of the children.

     

    That´s almost as bad as the time I spent most of the morning complaining about my reading glasses.  Then I went in my bag for my memory stick . . . . . and pulled out a lens.

     

    I like to think I walk the fine line between genius and bonkers. {#emotions_dlg.nuts}

     

    4886.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 Jul 2010 Wed 11:24 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

     

    "readers" . . . reminds me of something funny that I did a few weeks ago.

     

    I spent most of the day using a pair of reading glasses . . . it was only at the end of the day that I realised they weren´t mine . . . belonged to one of the children.

     

    That´s almost as bad as the time I spent most of the morning complaining about my reading glasses.  Then I went in my bag for my memory stick . . . . . and pulled out a lens.

     

    I like to think I walk the fine line between genius and bonkers. {#emotions_dlg.nuts}

     

     

     hahaha...well if you CAN´T SEE it makes it really hard to notice these things!{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4887.       lemon
    1374 posts
     18 Jul 2010 Sun 10:57 pm

    ***43 killed at the suicide bombing in Iraq.

    ***Plastic Boeing 787

    ***17 people dead at the party, Mexico

    ***Burka again is an issue in UK

    4888.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     18 Jul 2010 Sun 11:38 pm

    ... Hm, I don´t really see the point or the message in using dead ants...

    4889.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Jul 2010 Mon 05:23 pm

     

    The ´Wine Rack´ - ´booze bra´

    ..

    A new bra that can hold a whole bottle of wine is unlikely to find much favour with bar and pub owners.

    The ´Wine Rack´, which holds 750ml of drink and comes complete with a straw attached to the watertight tubing inside the cups, can inflate a girl´s chest by up to two sizes.

    ...

    The ´Wine Rack´ bra is a successor to the firm´s ´Beer Belly´ - a similar product for men, which can be worn around the stomach.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-...shirt.html

    =========

    one of the comments was "How about y fronts that hold several pints"

     

    lol

     

    4890.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Jul 2010 Wed 02:24 pm

     

    Whale lands on yacht after ´being harassed´ 

    A forty-ton whale that jumped out of the water onto a couple´s yacht, smashing the mast, may have been ´harassed´ by the boat beforehand. 

    http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835715-whale-lands-on-yacht-after-being-harassed

     

    Moby Dick??

    =======================

    Suicidal hare on wrong side of tracks

     

    A SUICIDAL hare found its way onto the Shepparton greyhound racetrack, confusing the runners which were suddenly forced to choose between a fake target and the real deal.

     

    Outsider Ginny Lou, who was in third place,  set off after the hare and after reviewing the official race film stewards declared the event a ´no race´.

     

    http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/ne..-real-hare/20100721-99nw.html

    ====

    what a stupid hare!!

     



    Edited (7/21/2010) by thehandsom

    4891.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     29 Jul 2010 Thu 12:04 pm

    There is an advert stalking me around cyberspace . . .

    How does it know that I need to "cut belly fat" and that I need "tips for a flat belly" ? {#emotions_dlg.scared}

     

    btw - I hate the word "belly"

    4892.       si++
    3785 posts
     29 Jul 2010 Thu 12:15 pm

     

    Quoting peacetrain

    There is an advert stalking me around cyberspace . . .

    How does it know that I need to "cut belly fat" and that I need "tips for a flat belly" ? {#emotions_dlg.scared}

     

    btw - I hate the word "belly"

     

    Oh they are watching us for sure. Your clicks when you´re surfing the Internet may be being reported to somewhere (probably Google) and they come up with some conclusions based on that.

     

    btw - I heard that green tea (4 cups a day) is effective on cutting belly fat.

     

    4893.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     29 Jul 2010 Thu 07:10 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    Oh they are watching us for sure. Your clicks when you´re surfing the Internet may be being reported to somewhere (probably Google) and they come up with some conclusions based on that.  Yes, I read about that but I haven´t visited a site that could attract such attention {#emotions_dlg.unsure}, although I definitely should

     

    btw - I heard that green tea (4 cups a day) is effective on cutting belly fat.

     

    I don´t like green tea, but I´ll persevere with it {#emotions_dlg.puking}.

     

    4894.       lemon
    1374 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 12:37 am

    A T-shirt with "IF FOUND PLEASE RETURN TO PUB"

    4895.       si++
    3785 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 11:34 am

    Hansom deleted my last comment about one of his columns and I don´t understand his reasons in deleting it.

    4896.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 11:40 am

     

    Quoting si++

    Hansom deleted my last comment about one of his columns and I don´t understand his reasons in deleting it.

     

    Dont cry!!

    I explained in my previous post:

    I have to remind you Si++, you may insist it is not racism, but telling people like ´are you an Armenian; ah you got to be Armenian; you are the Armenian amongs us; you can not to be a Turk; you dont sound like a Turk´ are carrying racist sentiments.. It is like a racist German acccusing other Germans who were against the racist nazi policies, not having noble blood; or not being german enough -of course not having noble blood or not being german enough would be humiliating for a german racist- !! 

    Of course we are not in 1940s and political correctness stops some of direct ignorant racist slurs. But the logic and the way of thinking is the same in your post!! 
    Since Angel mentioned several times he is a Turk and then you writing here ´you do not sound like a Turk´ does convince me, you are at the same wave length with those Germans who accused other Germans ´not being German enough´.. 
    So please repect what other people are saying and NO MORE RACISM!!!


    Ok?

    4897.       si++
    3785 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 11:45 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Dont cry!!

    I explained in my previous post:

    I have to remind you Si++, you may insist it is not racism, but telling people like ´are you an Armenian; ah you got to be Armenian; you are the Armenian amongs us; you can not to be a Turk; you dont sound like a Turk´ are carrying racist sentiments.. It is like a racist German acccusing other Germans who were against the racist nazi policies, not having noble blood; or not being german enough -of course not having noble blood or not being german enough would be humiliating for a german racist- !! 

    Of course we are not in 1940s and political correctness stops some of direct ignorant racist slurs. But the logic and the way of thinking is the same in your post!! 
    Since Angel mentioned several times he is a Turk and then you writing here ´you do not sound like a Turk´ does convince me, you are at the same wave length with those Germans who accused other Germans ´not being German enough´.. 
    So please repect what other people are saying and NO MORE RACISM!!!


    Ok?

     

    It´s only your eyes that try to find racism everywhere. What´s wrong with saying "I´m expecting an answer from him".

     

    Edit: You have the power of deleting it. So I added it here for the sake of completeness:

     

    Well, hansom,

    I see that you have deleted my last comment for which I don´t see any rationale at all.

    I just said I was expecting an answer from angel about his usage of "Talaat" which makes me suspicious. What makes you delete it?

    Cheers,

     



    Edited (8/4/2010) by si++

    4898.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 11:49 am

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    It´s only your eyes that try to find racism everywhere. What´s wrong with saying "I´m expecting an answer from him".

     

    Edit: You have the power of deleting it. So I added it here for the sake of completeness:

     

    Well, hansom,

    I see that you have deleted my last comment for which I don´t see any rationale at all.

    I just said I was expecting an answer from angel about his usage of "Talaat" which makes me suspicious. What makes you delete it?

    Cheers,

     

     

    If your posts are about the topic instead of racist insinuations such as ´you sound like an Armenian etc´, they would not  be deleted..



    Edited (8/4/2010) by thehandsom

    4899.       si++
    3785 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 11:52 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    If your posts are about the topic instead of racist insinuations such as ´you sound like an Armenian etc´ , they would not  be deleted..

     

    Where did I say it in my comment? It´s only your addition. You see illusions.

    4900.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 11:59 am

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    Where did I say it in my comment? It´s only your addition. You see illusions.

     

    No illusion there!!

    You said in your previous post something like  ´talaat is being used by the armenians etc´.

    So.. Your posts have been deleted on both accounts : Racism and nothing to do with the topic itself..

     



    Edited (8/4/2010) by thehandsom

    4901.       si++
    3785 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 12:03 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    No illusion there!!

    You said in your previous post something like  ´talaat is being used my the armenians etc´.

    So.. Your posts have been deleted on both accounts : Racism and nothing to do with the topic itself..

     

     

    So?

     

    Is it just an informative sentence. You see, you have turned it into "You sound like an Armenian" in your head.

     

    Yes illusions there!

    4902.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 12:07 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    So?

     

    Is it just an informative sentence. You see, you have turned it into "You sound like an Armenian" in your head.

     

    Yes illusions there!

     

    Nope there is no illusion..!!

    Posts were deleted rightly in my view.. 

    As I said, "no more racism" there!!

     

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    4903.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Aug 2010 Wed 07:48 pm

     

    Hamas´ Gaza PM names his grandson ´Erdogan´

    ..

    Haniyeh is not the first Palestinian to honor the Turkish leader in this way. A couple from the southern Gaza Strip town of Khan Younis named their son after the prime minister in June, saying they had admired Erdogan even before the May 31 flotilla raid.

     

    ´Erdogan is a noble leader, who has lately expressed honorable positions for the benefit of the Palestinian nation, and the legitimate government in Gaza,´ the couple said.

    ...haniyeh-names-his-grandson-erdogan-2010-08-03

     



    Edited (8/4/2010) by thehandsom

    4904.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     05 Aug 2010 Thu 03:37 am

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100804/tod-vimto-s-global-fans-boost-drink-firm-870a197.html

    I remember this drink from my childhood.  I liked to drink it hot as well as cold.  There was also a corner shop near my home (NW England) that made Vimto ice lollies . . . delicious. When I later lived and worked in London (late 70s), Vimto could not be found in the shops there, so family always brought a bottle with them when they visited.   Later came fizzy Vimto, but I much prefer the cordial. 

     

    More information regarding its 100 year history can be found below.  Seems it´s now doing big business in the Middle East!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimto

     

    Other drinks I enjoyed as a child were:

    Dandelion and Burdock   -  still or fizzy

    Ginger Beer (not alcoholic): I remember my father making some of this in the 60s.  He used real ginger in the process and when he tried to bottle it, after fermentation, it all exploded in his face and he had froth all over his beard and glasses {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}.

    Sarsaparilla  - still - until recently it was still sold, freshly made, at the local market.  I also loved the boiled sweets known as sarsaparilla tablets. In fact I may buy some tomorrow and take them with me to İstanbul.

    Oh Happy days !  {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

     

    N.B.  For anyone who is unsure:   still = not carbonated



    Edited (8/5/2010) by peacetrain [meaning of still]

    4905.       armegon
    1872 posts
     17 Aug 2010 Tue 09:44 pm

    It was known but anyways good analysis...

    http://www.odatv.com/n.php?n=hukumet-ergenekonla-anlasti-1708101200

    4906.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Aug 2010 Thu 04:14 pm

    "Everyone has a charge, all slightly different. It sounds like Brenda is highly-charged."

     

    Iron mom..

    She has a much more powerful electro-magnetic field than most people.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk..on-a-is-human-magnet.html

     

    =====

    I am still laughing at one of the comments from a reader..

    He said :With a face like that she aint gonna be a man magnet thats for sure.

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    4907.       libralady
    5152 posts
     22 Aug 2010 Sun 10:47 am

    http://blog.flickr.net/en/2010/08/22/first-lemon/

     

    {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4908.       lemon
    1374 posts
     22 Aug 2010 Sun 10:57 pm

     

     

    When my daughter (at 15-16 months) had her first lemon she ate it like it was bread. No reaction to sour. I worried a bit. I thought she didnt have enough taste buds. She is a little weirdo.

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    4909.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     22 Aug 2010 Sun 11:55 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    I am still laughing at one of the comments from a reader..

    He said :With a face like that she aint gonna be a man magnet thats for sure.

     

     

    I think this comment is quite repugnant. {#emotions_dlg.puking}

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    4910.       lemon
    1374 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 09:53 am

     

    Quoting catwoman

     

     

    I think this comment is quite repugnant. {#emotions_dlg.puking}

     

    A furious feminist is back! {#emotions_dlg.scared}

    4911.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 12:54 pm

     

    Funi the giant panda eats her cake on fourth birthday

     

    When someone goes to the trouble of making a birthday cake, the least the recipient can do is show some manners when it is presented to them.

    Funi the panda showed no such restraint when she was given a tasty treat to mark her fourth birthday, immediately deciding to stick her head in it.

    Australian giant panda
    Australian giant panda
    Australian giant panda

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/..s-birthday-zoo-cake.html



    Edited (8/23/2010) by thehandsom

    4912.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 01:08 pm

    Awww Handsom´s favourite topic - pandas- is here again

    Is this panda related to the ones that needed a sex coach? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    4913.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 04:49 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Awww Handsom´s favourite topic - pandas- is here again

    Is this panda related to the ones that needed a sex coach? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

     

    You mean 

    You mean  "Tuantuan and Yuanyuan" who have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day, in this page? 

    http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_27720_163

    I am not sure if they are related, but according to the gossips  Tuantuan and Yuanyuan are seeing a marriage counselor now.. Nothing, including watching ´the Emmanuell´  worked apparently!!  

     

     

    4914.       Thebirdy
    39 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 05:32 pm

    American  welcoming ad concerning illegal Mexican migrants

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qKD-Ph7ds



    Edited (8/23/2010) by Thebirdy

    4915.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 06:29 pm

    thehandsom reporting on the latest Panda News.....love it!!

    4916.       lemon
    1374 posts
     23 Aug 2010 Mon 09:37 pm

    I dont trust people who constantly change and edit their posts. {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4917.       lemon
    1374 posts
     24 Aug 2010 Tue 11:33 am

    27 users are online and only 2 logged in {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

    4918.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Aug 2010 Tue 12:20 pm

    Flood/Nowshera/Pakistan pictures..

    http://www.google.co.uk/..wshera%20flood

    http://nowshera.com/news/flood-photos/

     

     

    NOWSHERA FLOOD

    NF06

     

     

    I lived in that area for 18 months..

     

     

    4919.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     26 Aug 2010 Thu 07:36 pm

    Are you attractive ?

    ...

    A woman´s attractiveness relates to the size of her waist compared with her hips, it has been found.

     Scientists have discovered the ratio which, they say, makes for the perfect figure.

     -

    How do you measure?

    1. Stand with your stomach relaxed

    2. Find the narrowest point of your waist and measure in inches

    3. Find the widest point of your hips and measure in inches

    4. Divide the measurement from step 2 by the measurement from step 3. This is your waist-to-hip ratio

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1306012/Beauty-summed-To-tell-womans-really-attractive-figures.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    4920.       Capoeira
    575 posts
     26 Aug 2010 Thu 08:10 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Are you attractive ?

    ...

    A woman´s attractiveness relates to the size of her waist compared with her hips, it has been found.

     Scientists have discovered the ratio which, they say, makes for the perfect figure.

     -

    How do you measure?

    1. Stand with your stomach relaxed

    2. Find the narrowest point of your waist and measure in inches

    3. Find the widest point of your hips and measure in inches

    4. Divide the measurement from step 2 by the measurement from step 3. This is your waist-to-hip ratio

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1306012/Beauty-summed-To-tell-womans-really-attractive-figures.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     I need a dislike button for this one! Come on... if a woman has to measure herself to confirm herself...i definitely feel sorry for her.. anyone who does this should take  self esteem courses!

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    4921.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     26 Aug 2010 Thu 08:39 pm

    Is it just me, or are there way more researches on what makes a woman attractive than one what makes a man attractive? Come on, put some pressure on the guys too

    4922.       armegon
    1872 posts
     11 Sep 2010 Sat 05:54 pm

    THREESOME hooker Helen Wood rated superfit Wayne Rooney a power-packed punter, telling pals: "He´s an athlete on the pitch - and he gave us a workout we won´t forget." {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3129350/Waynes-one-two.html

    4923.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     12 Sep 2010 Sun 12:07 am

     

    Quoting armegon

    THREESOME hooker Helen Wood rated superfit Wayne Rooney a power-packed punter, telling pals: "He´s an athlete on the pitch - and he gave us a workout we won´t forget." {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3129350/Waynes-one-two.html

    {#emotions_dlg.puking}.......{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    4924.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     15 Sep 2010 Wed 04:19 pm

    Something the Dalai Lama said, "My true religion, my simple faith is in love and compassion. There is no need for complicated philosophy, doctrine, or dogma. Our own heart, our own mind, is the temple. The doctrine is compassion. Love for others and respect for their rights and dignity, no matter who or what they are - these are ultimately all we need."

     

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    4925.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Sep 2010 Sun 06:42 pm

    I think, I will delete this post..

     




    Edited (9/19/2010) by thehandsom
    Edited (9/20/2010) by thehandsom

    4926.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     19 Sep 2010 Sun 07:02 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I dont remember seeing this rule:

    I wonder if it was there before? lol lol

     

    1. TC Administration will delete a user acount if the user has repeatedly violated forum rules and was warned that another violation will result in account deletion. Should that user return using another nickname, and is not significantly contributing to the site, their account will be deleted after one violation upon return; if the same user gets deleted again and returns, their account will be deleted automatically at any future attempt to return.

    Any previously deleted return user who contributes significantly to the site but may also be occasionally involved in arguments involving violation of forum rules will not have their account automatically deleted upon return as long as they continue to contribute meaningfully to the site. However, if any violation of forum rules exceeds an acceptable limit they too will be warned and subsequently deleted if this continues.

     

    Well it seems like the second paragraph ´contradict´ the first one..

    I think the generic amnesty might be the best, instead of all these..{#emotions_dlg.confused}

     


     

    TC is a bad parent!  Don´t they know that warnings, more warnings and constant warnings to a child without ever actually punishing creates little monsters? lol

    4927.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Sep 2010 Mon 11:36 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Are you attractive ?

    ...

    A woman´s attractiveness relates to the size of her waist compared with her hips, it has been found.

     Scientists have discovered the ratio which, they say, makes for the perfect figure.

     -

    How do you measure?

    1. Stand with your stomach relaxed

    2. Find the narrowest point of your waist and measure in inches

    3. Find the widest point of your hips and measure in inches

    4. Divide the measurement from step 2 by the measurement from step 3. This is your waist-to-hip ratio

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1306012/Beauty-summed-To-tell-womans-really-attractive-figures.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Such an important piece of news that most women already know, but thanks for your valuable information

    4928.       libralady
    5152 posts
     20 Sep 2010 Mon 11:38 pm

     

    Quoting armegon

    THREESOME hooker Helen Wood rated superfit Wayne Rooney a power-packed punter, telling pals: "He´s an athlete on the pitch - and he gave us a workout we won´t forget." {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3129350/Waynes-one-two.html

     

    {#emotions_dlg.puking}{#emotions_dlg.puking}{#emotions_dlg.puking}.....

     

    4929.       Adam25
    369 posts
     24 Sep 2010 Fri 01:49 pm

     

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8015743/British-Isles-worst-place-to-live-in-Europe.html

     

    “Last year compared with our European neighbours we were miserable but rich, this year we’re miserable and poor."  :    




    Edited (9/24/2010) by Adam25

    4930.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Sep 2010 Fri 03:13 pm

    Britain´s most bizarre contest :The nail olympics

    ..

    Some 354 competitors from 24 countries are here, record numbers, and they’ve been in training for years to claw their way up the rankings.

    ‘This is one of the most important competitions in the world. You come to demonstrate your skill and show what your country can offer,’ says Carmelina Gandolfo, 32, from the Italian team, summing up the sense of occasion.

    ....

     

    They all look a bit bonkers to the uninitiated and are, by any measure, totally impractical.

    ..A matter of honour: The Nailympics have been held in Britain for the last six years and competition is fierce, particularly in the ´fantasy nail art´ category, which is a guaranteed crowd-pleaser

    4931.       busyb
    117 posts
     24 Sep 2010 Fri 05:26 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Britain´s most bizarre contest :The nail olympics

    ..

    Some 354 competitors from 24 countries are here, record numbers, and they’ve been in training for years to claw their way up the rankings.

    ‘This is one of the most important competitions in the world. You come to demonstrate your skill and show what your country can offer,’ says Carmelina Gandolfo, 32, from the Italian team, summing up the sense of occasion.

    ....

     

    They all look a bit bonkers to the uninitiated and are, by any measure, totally impractical.

    ..A matter of honour: The Nailympics have been held in Britain for the last six years and competition is fierce, particularly in the ´fantasy nail art´ category, which is a guaranteed crowd-pleaser

     

    This goes to show that there are people out there with too much time on their hands.... (excuse the pun)

     

    4932.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Sep 2010 Tue 12:42 pm

    Fellatio is close to zero in France 

    ..

    A glamourous French politician has become an internet star after accidentally blaming the economic slump on a lack of oral sex. Stereotypes eh?

    Rachida Dati, France’s former justice minister said she made the slip because she was trying to talk too fast. ´I just spoke too quickly but, well, if that lets everybody have a laugh, then that’s fine,´ she said in a radio interview.

    Miss Dati’s gaffe came as she attacked foreign investment funds in an interview with Canal Plus.

    ´When I see some of them looking for returns of 20 or 25 per cent, at a time when fellatio is close to zero, and in particular in a slump, that means we are destroying businesses,´ she said.

    http://www.france24.com/e..-freudian-slip-fellatio-r..-marseille-champions-league

    ====

    Poor French!! I never knew it was that bad..

    4933.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Sep 2010 Tue 10:57 pm

    Next prime minister of UK?

    Labour party elects a Jewish  atheist as a new leader..

     

    Is it increased tolerance or mere indifference that allowed Labour to elect a Jewish atheist as its new leader without any outcry?

    ..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/sep/28/michael-white-ed-miliband-religion

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11417906

     


     

    4934.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     28 Sep 2010 Tue 11:20 pm

    There is no such thing as a Jewish atheist.

    4935.       alameda
    3499 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 12:42 am

    Actually, you are wrong. I have met a few who claimed to be....in person.

    Quoting barba_mama

    There is no such thing as a Jewish atheist.

     

     

    4936.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 08:10 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Next prime minister of UK?

    Labour party elects a Jewish  atheist as a new leader..

     

    Is it increased tolerance or mere indifference that allowed Labour to elect a Jewish atheist as its new leader without any outcry?

    ..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/sep/28/michael-white-ed-miliband-religion

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11417906

     


     

    I don´t understand why you would think there would be an outcry and I hadn´t realised the British were an intolerant nation when it comes to religion.

    Most religious intolerance is propogated by some sections of the press and religious extremists, but I believe, as a nation, we are not intolerant.

    If I was oversensitive I could take your comment as an insult .

     

     

     



    Edited (9/29/2010) by peacetrain
    Edited (9/29/2010) by peacetrain

    4937.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 11:25 am

    Of course there is. You just have to speak of ethnicity not religion.

    Quoting barba_mama

    There is no such thing as a Jewish atheist.

     

    Why would it be surprising that an atheist of Jewish origin was appointed in the UK? If one was given a high rank position in SA then it would be a surprise lol 

    4938.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 04:12 pm

    Why should it matter if he is an athiest?  I think people still confuse ethics with religion.  If he is an ethical man and can do the job...who cares? 



    Edited (9/29/2010) by Elisabeth

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    4939.       alameda
    3499 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 06:41 pm

    I pretty much agree with you Elisabeth, but I wish we didn´t have to hear anything about the person´s religion. Keep it secret. Acts speak louder.....

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Why should it matter if he is an athiest?  I think people still confuse ethics with religion.  If he is an ethical man and can do the job...who cares? 

    Daydreamer liked this message
    4940.       alameda
    3499 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 06:46 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Of course there is. You just have to speak of ethnicity not religion.

     

    I can understand her confusion though. Under the current Jewish definition of Jewishness, you are a Jew if your mother was Jewish. It speaks nothing of belief. Under that definition, one could have very little Semitic genes.



    Edited (9/29/2010) by alameda [spelling]

    4941.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 07:30 pm

    More to confusion.. There are also Christian Jews!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus

     

    4942.       alameda
    3499 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 07:55 pm

    and Christian Zionists....

    Quoting thehandsom

    More to confusion.. There are also Christian Jews!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus

     

     

     

    4943.       alameda
    3499 posts
     29 Sep 2010 Wed 11:02 pm

    ...got a new gasket for my old stainless steel Aeternum pressure cooker. At the time I got it there were only aluminimun ones around, but the gasket wore out and they were impossible to find here.......so...Now, at long last, I´m cooking with a proper pressure cooker, but as it doesn´t have a pressure guage, so I´m learning how to test the pressure other ways....lol...

    Pressure Cooker Test there is some interesting information on using pressure cookers here.

    Do you use a pressure cooker, and if so what kind?

    4944.       Adam25
    369 posts
     04 Oct 2010 Mon 07:00 pm

    Parents beware!  Your child may be turning into a train...

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317455/The-boy-trapped-world-Thomas-The-Tank-Engine-watching-hours-day.html

     

    ...actually it´s not really funny, dangers of too much tv and all that... 

    4945.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 Oct 2010 Mon 07:12 pm

     

    Quoting Adam25

    Parents beware!  Your child may be turning into a train...

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317455/The-boy-trapped-world-Thomas-The-Tank-Engine-watching-hours-day.html

     

    ...actually it´s not really funny, dangers of too much tv and all that... 

     

    This is really scary!  If I had a spare 5 hours, I certainly wouldn´t spend it in front of the TV nevermind let my toddler do it! 

    4946.       busyb
    117 posts
     04 Oct 2010 Mon 11:17 pm

     

    Quoting Adam25

    Parents beware!  Your child may be turning into a train...

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317455/The-boy-trapped-world-Thomas-The-Tank-Engine-watching-hours-day.html

     

    ...actually it´s not really funny, dangers of too much tv and all that... 

     

     I totally agree that 5 hours infront of a TV is far too much for anyone, let alone a toddler but I also think that, for the report to say "They are considering drawing up strict guidelines which could even advise parents to ban toddlers from watching TV" is ridiculous. Every child should be entitled to watch a little TV to engage in their own childhood state of minds and watch the "little kiddies" or cartoon programmes we so loved to watch when we were children. Some actually help children learn. But even now, I can remember watching things as a child that I loved and some were absolute classics and I love the fact that now that we are adults we can indulge in a good conversation about what we used to watch as a child.

    And yes we all do it! reminiscing our childhood I mean. Whether it´s the sweets we would buy by the quarter, or the old classic toys we used to play with, we still find ourselves to this day talking about it and I it can be a real nice conversation, and I don´t think we should be allowed to take that away from our children nowadays - but cut it off to a certain point which is still healthy so that they are still able to say "do you remember when we were children this - type of sweet/programme -  we used to watch".

     

    For example, anyone ever remember toffee crumble that you could buy by the quarter? My mum lives in a small village where they still sell by the quarter sweets and that is one of them thankfully!

    4947.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Oct 2010 Tue 07:39 pm

    A former Turkish F-16 pilot in  al-Qaeda´s camps?

    ..

    They have European citizenship and many are of Pakistani origin, the senior official of Pakistan’s inter-services intelligence agency said.

    Foreign fighters in the area include Chechens, Uzbeks, Arabs and Turks, one of whom was a former F-16 pilot in the Turkish air force.

    ..

    http://www.metro.co.uk/home/842972-dozens-of-europeans-in-training-for-terror-plot

    ==============

     

    I wonder if it is true and what made him switch considering the strong secularism in the army.

    4948.       si++
    3785 posts
     06 Oct 2010 Wed 10:23 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

    A former Turkish F-16 pilot in  al-Qaeda´s camps?

    ..

    They have European citizenship and many are of Pakistani origin, the senior official of Pakistan’s inter-services intelligence agency said.

    Foreign fighters in the area include Chechens, Uzbeks, Arabs and Turks, one of whom was a former F-16 pilot in the Turkish air force.

    ..

    http://www.metro.co.uk/home/842972-dozens-of-europeans-in-training-for-terror-plot

    ==============

     

    I wonder if it is true and what made him switch considering the strong secularism in the army.

     

     

    GeneralStaff contacted Pakistani officials for details and Pakistanis said they

    have  no such info as that.

    source: here

     

    4949.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Oct 2010 Wed 12:28 pm

    Giant pumpkin with 16ft circumference

     

    Their largest pumpkin has an incredible circumference of almost 16ft and amazingly grows more than 30lb every day.

    ..

    Last year American maths teacher Christy Harpy and her husband Nick, from Ohio, set a new world record with their entry weighing an amazing 1,725lb.

    But this year, Ian and Stuart hope to smash that with their behemoth pumpkin which still has over 40 days left to grow.

    ..

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306682/Giant-pumpkin-Twins-Ian-Stuart-Paton-grow-squash-amazing-16ft-circumference.html

    ====

    I wonder how much pumpkin desert you can make with it..

    4950.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Oct 2010 Wed 02:06 pm

    Ecological disaster in Hungary

     

     A lethal torrent of toxic red sludge from a metal refinery engulfed towns in Hungary, burning villagers through their clothes and threatening an ecological disaster Tuesday as it swept toward the Danube River.

    The flood of caustic red mud triggered a state of emergency declaration by Hungarian officials. At least four people were killed, six were missing and 120 injured, many with burns.

    ..

    http://www.google.com/h..AD9ILS22O2?docId=D9ILS22O2

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/05/hungary-toxic-sludge-spill

    4951.       lemon
    1374 posts
     06 Oct 2010 Wed 04:51 pm

    what is this? it looks horrible like blood.

    4952.       alameda
    3499 posts
     06 Oct 2010 Wed 08:15 pm

    It is the outcome of thoughtless greedy reckless  behaviour......so tragic {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

    Quoting lemon

    what is this? it looks horrible like blood.

     

     

    4953.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     07 Oct 2010 Thu 09:34 pm

    Saw it on the news... it looks so surreal.

    4954.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     07 Oct 2010 Thu 09:42 pm

     

    Quoting alameda

     

     

    I can understand her confusion though. Under the current Jewish definition of Jewishness, you are a Jew if your mother was Jewish. It speaks nothing of belief. Under that definition, one could have very little Semitic genes.

     

    It´s not my confusion... I know that rule, since my mother´s mother is Jewish, ergo, I am a Jew. Just like a child is a Muslim if it´s father is a Muslim... I will produce some interesting baby´s A Middle-Eastern conflict wrapped in a little package However, some very pc Americans have enlightened me. I am not a Jew, since I don´t have a Jewish religion. I should call myself either Hebrew, or having Jewish roots. I think that in this debate the issue was religion, therefor I said there is no such thing as a atheist Jew just like there is no Christian Jew. Anyway, it´s all a bunch of blah anyway. I still don´t know anything about this man and his leadership qualities after that article.

    4955.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     07 Oct 2010 Thu 10:38 pm

    BM - I´m just curious - do not answer if you feel it´s too private - if you have a child with a Muslim, are you going to bring them up being Muslim, non-religious or else?

    4956.       libralady
    5152 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 11:49 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Ecological disaster in Hungary

     

     A lethal torrent of toxic red sludge from a metal refinery engulfed towns in Hungary, burning villagers through their clothes and threatening an ecological disaster Tuesday as it swept toward the Danube River.

    The flood of caustic red mud triggered a state of emergency declaration by Hungarian officials. At least four people were killed, six were missing and 120 injured, many with burns.

    ..

    http://www.google.com/h..AD9ILS22O2?docId=D9ILS22O2

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/05/hungary-toxic-sludge-spill

     

     Typical of those who have little regard about their inhabitants or their environment, and now suddenly they will have too............ this make me seeth with anger {#emotions_dlg.head_bang} 

     

    So who will pay the clean up costs now it has reached the Danube and is Turkey sitting up and listening as it could end up in the Black Sea?



    Edited (10/8/2010) by libralady

    4957.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:15 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    BM - I´m just curious - do not answer if you feel it´s too private - if you have a child with a Muslim, are you going to bring them up being Muslim, non-religious or else?

     

    I will bring it up the way my mother brought me up, open In my family there are different religions. Amongst my cousins (so my generation) there are people who are nothing, strict Christians, radical Atheists and curious Jews. This is because our parents brought us up without any religion in particular, but introduced us to different religions. I will do the same. I will not say "there is a God" or "there is no God"... the child has to decide that for himself/herself. I will however show the child what the world has to offer. Bring it to church, to the mosque, etc. I guess this way of up-bringing could be called non-religious, but it would not be anti-religious either. Perhaps I should call it all-religious

    4958.       lemon
    1374 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:55 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    I will bring it up the way my mother brought me up, open In my family there are different religions. Amongst my cousins (so my generation) there are people who are nothing, strict Christians, radical Atheists and curious Jews. This is because our parents brought us up without any religion in particular, but introduced us to different religions. I will do the same. I will not say "there is a God" or "there is no God"... the child has to decide that for himself/herself. I will however show the child what the world has to offer. Bring it to church, to the mosque, etc. I guess this way of up-bringing could be called non-religious, but it would not be anti-religious either. Perhaps I should call it all-religious

     

    All means none. So you carry on your parents mistake. So your child wont know if there is God or not, just like you. To live a life with no certain and firm belief = existence!

    The products of New Age (with no strong moral stands) scare me more than terrorists.

     

    4959.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 02:32 pm

    Two panda cubs born at Spain´s Madrid Zoo ..

    The twins, both male, weighed just five ounces when born on September 7.

    They are the first of their species to be born in Spain since 1982 and only the third litter to be born in Europe

    They are the first giant panda twins to be conceived using the artificial insemination method outside of China, and experts consider that their survival is now almost guaranteed. 

    ... and their parents, mother Hua Zui Ba and father Bing Xing. 

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318637/Rare-panda-cubs-conceived-artificial-insemination-Madrid.html

    ==

    My huge congratulations to the parents..

    4960.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 05:18 pm

    I knew I could count on you for the lastest "Panda News."  They are really cute, though.

    4961.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 05:26 pm

    Thanks BM, that sounds fair and resonable

    Handsom, are you aware of what you´ve done here? Everytime I see a panda I think of you! {#emotions_dlg.get_you} you´re like our TC Pandamonium!!!

    4962.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     08 Oct 2010 Fri 09:19 pm

     

    Quoting lemon

     

     

    All means none. So you carry on your parents mistake. So your child wont know if there is God or not, just like you. To live a life with no certain and firm belief = existence!

    The products of New Age (with no strong moral stands) scare me more than terrorists.

     

     

    No actually. I leave this open to the child. So you can´t predict that my child will not believe in God. I believe in a God, even though my parents never forced this idea on me. In any case, I am proud of the way my parents raised me, but thank you for being judgemental about it. You really have a way of wrapping extreme insults in an "argument" of a conversation, that you actually had no part in.

    4963.       busyb
    117 posts
     09 Oct 2010 Sat 12:23 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    No actually. I leave this open to the child. So you can´t predict that my child will not believe in God. I believe in a God, even though my parents never forced this idea on me. In any case, I am proud of the way my parents raised me, but thank you for being judgemental about it. You really have a way of wrapping extreme insults in an "argument" of a conversation, that you actually had no part in.

     

    I have to agree here, my family are not religious at all, but since I was young I took myself to church and helped out a christian youth club and also studied other religions (due to interest) and also studied the kuran. Though I´ve never been literally named under a faith, there is no denying that I believe in the existance of God. Where as my partner, his parents are STRICT Jehovahs Witness but he himself has does not believe in it and because of that, they do not wish to have anything to do with him.

    So I believe that maybe in SOME cases there are children that are "encouraged" by what their parents believe in and so they follow, but there are still many that wish to find their own paths too, which is not always a bad thing.

     

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    4964.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Oct 2010 Sat 12:42 am

    I was raised in a Catholic family (hey, I´m Polish, the odds were 90% lol). My family on both my mum´s and my dad´s side is quite religious. Not fanatical but they go to church every Sunday and holiday, keep the Lent, meat-free Fridays etc. When I was young, the whole church idea was fun. I even was a Mary´s child, which was a thing for young girls, who´d wear white and stand on the sides of the altar during holidays. But then I grew up, stopped seeing sense. Nobody could convince me that something that made no sense made any, so I decided to quit church. That was something my parents wouldn´t allow so, basically, till I lived with them (until the end of secondary school) I had to pretend to go to church every Sunday. I´d go to cafes or stand outside with a group of friends whose parents were as understanding as mine lol

    When I went to university, I no longer had to lie. When I told my parents that it wasn´t only about church, but that I didn´t believe in God, they took it really bad. My dad wouldn´t talk to me for half a year. Eventually he started to but it was a rough time for both of us. I love my parents dearly and I´m glad they tolerate my own choice. They´re not happy about it, will probably never accept it or fully understand but they are there for me anyway.

    That´s why I do not intend to raise my children in any religion.Whatever they decide later on, it´s their choice. I don´t think you can impose the choice on anyone.

    4965.       bydand
    755 posts
     10 Oct 2010 Sun 09:42 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    BM - I´m just curious - do not answer if you feel it´s too private - if you have a child with a Muslim, are you going to bring them up being Muslim, non-religious or else?

    My partner and I had a similar problem when we got married many years ago. My partner is a Catholic and she wanted to be married by a priest in the Catholic Church. I was a lapsed protestant so before a priest could marry us I had to promise any children would be brought up Catholic. I did not think it a big deal at the time as I would have let them make up their own minds anyway.

     

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    4966.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     10 Oct 2010 Sun 11:28 am

    You can raise children to believe in God, Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy - they will believe whatever you tell them

    4967.       peacetrain
    1905 posts
     10 Oct 2010 Sun 11:48 am

     

    Quoting barba_mama

     

     

    No actually. I leave this open to the child. So you can´t predict that my child will not believe in God. I believe in a God, even though my parents never forced this idea on me. In any case, I am proud of the way my parents raised me, but thank you for being judgemental about it. You really have a way of wrapping extreme insults in an "argument" of a conversation, that you actually had no part in.

    My grandmother was Salvation Army and pressured her children to attend services every Sunday.  My mother hated being forced to go and so never pushed having a faith on to me and there were never any discussions.  I attended a Church of England primary school and it was there that I learned about God, faith etc.  from the age of 8 I decided I wanted to go to church and went with my mum´s best friend and her family.  So, it´s possible to gain a belief system without the input of a parent.

    In England and Wales, Religious Education is compulsory, in state schools, for children aged between 5 and 16.  Children learn about the major faiths  (founders and leaders, sacred texts, religious traditions, beliefs and values etc.).  So, even in a non faith school, children learn about God, gods, spirituality etc.  the UK is officially a Christian nation and the Dept for Education in England and Wales also expect a daily act of collective worship in state schools. Some schools are Church schools and some are not and the format of the collective worship can vary quite a lot.  A school or class assembly based on some moral issue with a prayer at the end is sufficient.  Parents have the right to request that their children do not participate in acts of collective worship or Religious Education lessons, and in the 16 years at my school, one Pagan family and two Jehovah´s Witness families have exercised this right.

    The Queen is the Defender of the Faith but, interestingly, Prince Charles has been reported as preferring the title "Defender of the Faiths" if ever he becomes king.

    Btw BM, this is an open forum and as such Lemon is allowed to enter any discussion or "argument" .

     

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    4968.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Oct 2010 Tue 12:00 am

    There was this ´strange programme´ on the tv..

    Joanna Lumley: Catwoman

    In the first of two programmes, the actress and campaigner travels the world to explore the history of cats in different cultures and mythology. Her first stop is the USA´s scariest feline goddess worshipped by everybody: catwoman of tc.

    http://www.tvguide.co.uk/titlesearch.asp?title=Joanna%20Lumley:%20Catwoman

    4969.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     12 Oct 2010 Tue 12:05 am

    British aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been accidentally killed by US forces during a rescue mission in Afghanistan, David Cameron has said.

    International forces originally said she died on Friday when one of her captors detonated a suicide vest.

    But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.

    Mr Cameron said he had spoken to her family about the "deeply distressing" news.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210

    4970.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Oct 2010 Tue 05:10 am

     

    Quoting TheAenigma

    British aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been accidentally killed by US forces during a rescue mission in Afghanistan, David Cameron has said.

    International forces originally said she died on Friday when one of her captors detonated a suicide vest.

    But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.

    Mr Cameron said he had spoken to her family about the "deeply distressing" news.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210

     

    Whom do they send to war? 17-20 year old dumb young men who joined the forces being agitated on streets and later on thrown into the middle of the war.

    And of course, US wont get punished for anything.

     

    4971.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Oct 2010 Tue 12:20 pm

    100 million hand crafted sunflower seeds as sculpture?

     

    I came a cross this article here as ´tate carpeted with sun flower seeds´

    http://news.sky.com/s...hinese_Artist_Ai_Weiwei  by Ai Weiwei a Chinese artist.

    When I was thinking ´what a peculiar thing to do´ and I read another article:

    http://www.bloomberg.co..00-million-seeds-review.html

     

     

    "Sunflower Seeds,"

    ..The work consists of 100 million little monochrome porcelain replicas of sunflower seed husks. This humble item carries strong associations for Ai. The sunflower seed is a popular Chinese snack. During the Cultural Revolution of 1966- 76, Chairman Mao Zedong was represented as the Sun with the Chinese people as sunflowers turning their faces toward him.

    The Cultural Revolution holds terrible memories for Ai, 53. His father, Ai Qing (1910-1996), a celebrated poet, was exiled to a remote village and condemned to hard labor.

    ..used one of most significant materials of the old China: porcelain. Each of the ceramic sunflower shells was hand-painted and crafted by workers at a factory ..

    It took two years to manufacture this quantity of tiny porcelain seed-pods. Altogether they weigh 150 metric tonnes. They crunch under your feet like gravel, and visitor’s footsteps form them into an undulating miniature landscape, like a desert seen from the air.

    If you pick up a few, you discover that each is minutely different. The pattern of black and white stripes is always slightly varied, just as each individual human being is unique, though in a crowd, from a distance they can seem much the same.

    Ai Weiwei´s Sunflower Seeds installation at the Tate Modern

    Chinese artist Ai Weiwei with his work Sunflower Seeds


    ===

    Respect!!!!!

     

    4972.       Adam25
    369 posts
     13 Oct 2010 Wed 08:08 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1320045/CHILEAN-MINERS-RESCUE-Back-dead-69-days-trapped-underground.html

     

    i watched this on tv a lot today - fantastic result!



    Edited (10/13/2010) by Adam25

    4973.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Oct 2010 Wed 09:32 pm

     

     

    Everybody seems happy apart from wife of Yonni Barrios, who was busted when his wife of 28 years and mistress of ten years both showed up to hold vigil at the mine site in September.

    Ever since, we´ve been wondering what will happen when he´s finally freed from the mine. Will he kiss his wife, then his mistress? Will he kiss his wife and ignore his mistress? Will they have one big three-way kiss? Hug the wife and then kiss the mistress behind the wife´s back? Just run, as fast as possible?

    It turns out that none of those permutations are going to happen, because Barrios´s wife, Marta Salinas, is boycotting her philandering husband´s rescue, which is expected to take place between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. today. You can´t really blame her — Barrios requested that both of the women show up.

    ...

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/10/one_miners_wife_is_boycotting.html

    or

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/chilean-miner-yonni-barrios-mistress-wife/story?id=11869775

    ==

    I would not want to come out if it was me..

     

     

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    4974.       TheAenigma
    5001 posts
     14 Oct 2010 Thu 12:11 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Everybody seems happy apart from wife of Yonni Barrios, who was busted when his wife of 28 years and mistress of ten years both showed up to hold vigil at the mine site in September.

    Ever since, we´ve been wondering what will happen when he´s finally freed from the mine. Will he kiss his wife, then his mistress? Will he kiss his wife and ignore his mistress? Will they have one big three-way kiss? Hug the wife and then kiss the mistress behind the wife´s back? Just run, as fast as possible?

    It turns out that none of those permutations are going to happen, because Barrios´s wife, Marta Salinas, is boycotting her philandering husband´s rescue, which is expected to take place between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. today. You can´t really blame her — Barrios requested that both of the women show up.

    ...

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/10/one_miners_wife_is_boycotting.html

    or

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/chilean-miner-yonni-barrios-mistress-wife/story?id=11869775

    ==

    I would not want to come out if it was me..

     

     

     

    Not very nice having the WHOLE WORD knowing your personal business though.  Glad it all went well for him (and the others)

     

    4975.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Oct 2010 Fri 02:00 pm

    The Bodymax bum-lift and frontal enhancement pack will go on sale from October 15. The Argyle Street M&S store in Glasgow will be the only place in Scotland men can buy the pants, although they will also be available to order online.

    Manufactures claim the frontal enhancement pack, for a mere £10, will give men a 38% boost. Meanwhile, the bum lift pants - for £15 - will give a 20% "visual lift" to a man’s derriere.

    ....

    http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-central/200932-hello-girls-wonderpants-give-glasgow-men-a-lift/

    Hello Girls: ‘Wonderpants’ give Glasgow men a lift

    No more using bananas!! woohoo!! {#emotions_dlg.angel}


    4976.       busyb
    117 posts
     15 Oct 2010 Fri 06:20 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    No more using bananas!! woohoo!! {#emotions_dlg.angel}


     

     {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} This so reminds me of someone saying "is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy to see me".

    4977.       Adam25
    369 posts
     16 Oct 2010 Sat 05:44 pm

    Celery Forest

    British photographer Carl Warner creates landscapes entirely from food and then photographs them - anyone hungry?

     

    http://www.lenswall.com/subjects.php?s=100

     

    (Perhaps he was inspired by watching ´Close Encounters...´ - )



    Edited (10/16/2010) by Adam25
    Edited (10/16/2010) by Adam25 [add pic]

    4978.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 Oct 2010 Wed 07:01 pm

    Wayne Rooney´s departure from Man U..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2010/10/ferguson_hangs_rooney_out_to_d.html 

    Or is he? will Alex Ferguson get on his knees and kiss his boots and beg for him to stay?

    4979.       insallah
    1277 posts
     21 Oct 2010 Thu 02:53 am

    Wondering if new member lives up to his name Cute.male90        Dooes that mean 90 cute malesssssssssss ?



    Edited (10/21/2010) by insallah

    4980.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Oct 2010 Thu 02:58 am

     

    Quoting insallah

    Wondering if new member lives up to his name Cute.male90        Dooes that mean 90 cute malesssssssssss ?

     

    It sounds a bit doddgy if you ask me.. Male and cute?? {#emotions_dlg.suspicious}

    4981.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     21 Oct 2010 Thu 04:48 pm

     

    Quoting insallah

    Wondering if new member lives up to his name Cute.male90        Dooes that mean 90 cute malesssssssssss ?

     

     Maybe it means he is a cute 90 year old male! {#emotions_dlg.puking}{#emotions_dlg.puking}  H, did you create another user name? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4982.       insallah
    1277 posts
     21 Oct 2010 Thu 05:56 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

     Maybe it means he is a cute 90 year old male! {#emotions_dlg.puking}{#emotions_dlg.puking}  H, did you create another user name? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    Now now Elisabeth don´t be ageing Handsome before his time. We all know he is only 89

     



    Edited (10/21/2010) by insallah

    4983.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     21 Oct 2010 Thu 08:07 pm

     

    Quoting insallah

     

     

    Now now Elisabeth don´t be ageing Handsome before his time. We all know he is only 89

     

     

    I guess you caught me!{#emotions_dlg.shy}

     

    4984.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     21 Oct 2010 Thu 11:51 pm

    A new level of translation request.....wanting not only translation but interpretation of what the original writer meant!  {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

     

    4985.       Adam25
    369 posts
     22 Oct 2010 Fri 12:08 am

     

    Quoting girleegirl

    A new level of translation request.....wanting not only translation but interpretation of what the original writer meant!  {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

     

     

    - I was just wondering how many ways you could interpret ´tamam´ without actually hearing the tone of voice it´s said in!

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    4986.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     22 Oct 2010 Fri 12:25 am

     

    Quoting Adam25

      - I was just wondering how many ways you could interpret ´tamam´ without actually hearing the tone of voice it´s said in!

     

     Hmmm good question.  Well there is........

    Tamam - ok

    and..

    Tamam - OK

    and..

    Tamam - Ok!

    and..

    Tamam - OKKKKKKKKKKKK!

    then there is..

    Tamam - ok?

    oh and also...

    Tamam - OK

    and don´t forget.....

    Tamam - OK

    {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    4987.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Oct 2010 Sat 12:29 pm

    Iraq war logs: secret files show how US ignored torture

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/iraq-war-logs
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/22/iraq-war-logs-military-leaks


    Massive leak reveals serial detainee abuse
    15,000 unknown civilian deaths in war
    Apache crew killed insurgents who tried to surrender

    US military legal adviser told helicopter crew that Iraqi men were valid targets as they could not surrender to aircraft
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/22/iraq-war-logs-apache-insurgents-surrender

    ===============

    I think, when the history is concerned, the truth always comes out in the end.

    No matter how you try to hide them..

    4988.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     23 Oct 2010 Sat 12:49 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    I think, when the history is concerned, the truth always comes out in the end.

    No matter how you try to hide them..

    Especially these days when information flow is huge and basically unrestricted and everyone owns audio/video recording devices and has access tot he Internet

    It turns out, the US used Polish military airports and bases for keeping terrorists. Unbelievable!

     

    4989.       busyb
    117 posts
     25 Oct 2010 Mon 11:28 pm

    Baby items that I required were half price today when I went shopping in London. I thought they priced it wrong at the till when I asked how much. It was the last one left and had no sticker price on. Was very happy! It certainly pays to look around for different prices first before purchasing

    4990.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     26 Oct 2010 Tue 03:41 pm

     

    Paul the octopus  dies.

    ....

    "He appears to have passed away peacefully during the night, of natural causes, and we are consoled by the knowledge that he enjoyed a good life here," said Mr Porwoll.

    He was only 2 1/2 years old...

    http://www.google.com/hoste...docId=N0100451288088492078A

     

    ==============

    Such a sad news {#emotions_dlg.confused}Cry



    Edited (10/26/2010) by thehandsom

    4991.       armegon
    1872 posts
     26 Oct 2010 Tue 10:24 pm

    Some say he even could not guess a gs draw in Saraçoğlu and that deep sorrow had a big affect on his passing.{#emotions_dlg.confused}

    R.I.P  Paul...

    4992.       busyb
    117 posts
     27 Oct 2010 Wed 12:40 am

    This -

    http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/10/26/5353411-cell-phone-time-traveler-from-1928?gt1=43001

     

    Very strange, but is it the mind playing tricks. Desperate to find out though! I love things like "could it be?!" type of debate. Everyone has their opinions and it´s great to see what people think.

    I didn´t tell my partner anything about the clip and said "it´s a 1928 clip from a charlie chaplin film, what is odd about it?" he couldn´t tell me at first, but when I said "what is the lady holding" the first thing he said was "a mobile phone" then changed his mind when I stated it couldn´t be because they didn´t exist then. It´s funny how the mind works. Scotoma?

    4993.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     28 Oct 2010 Thu 12:28 pm

    Overflow of Turkish flags today. And sitting next to a school is also not the best timing. They have been reciting and standing outside for HOURS {#emotions_dlg.eeek} Wondering if even more flags will turn up tomorrow...

    4994.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Nov 2010 Wed 06:51 pm

    Two legged pig :

    http://life.globaltimes.cn/odd/2010-10/580061.html

    ===

    Elephants forced to walk across metal tightropes in Thailand :

     

    Attraction? It takes the elephants´ mahouts - or trainers - six months to train the elephants to carry out the trick

     

    http://www.dailymail.co....attraction.html

    4995.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     04 Nov 2010 Thu 07:17 pm

    Four Months of Darkness for Residents of the most Northern Town on Earth!

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/04/philips-perpetual-night-ultimate-night-lights/?test=faces

     

    I would go absolutely crazy!!  {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}



    Edited (11/4/2010) by Elisabeth [spelling error!! Need to fix it before one of the English teachers gets a hold of me!!!]

    4996.       busyb
    117 posts
     04 Nov 2010 Thu 07:35 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Four Months of Darkness for Residence of the most Northern Town on Earth!

     

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/04/philips-perpetual-night-ultimate-night-lights/?test=faces

     

    I would go absolutely crazy!!  {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

     I would like to experience it for a short about of time, to see how people go about their daily lives etc but I wouldn´t want to do it for four months and certainly not four months for every year for the rest of my life. Sod that, I´d move!

    4997.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     04 Nov 2010 Thu 08:14 pm

    I can´t imagine living without the sun for 4 months. Especially that off-licence shops close are open just for a couple of hours a day and alcohol costs an arm and a leg in Norway. I loved the Norwegian landscape but I wouldn´t be able to live there. It´s like living in a hermitage. Small red-painted houses at great distance from one another, polar bears, which apparently are not very people-friendly, and a four-month darkness...not my idea of living

    4998.       Adam25
    369 posts
     10 Nov 2010 Wed 05:15 pm

     

    Turkish village blighted by cancer

    ´.....as long as the village has been there, its inhabitants have suffered abnormally high rates of respiratory disease, responsible for about half of all deaths. Until recently no-one knew why.

     Dr Izzettin Baris holding a piece of erionite

    ´The cause was discovered by Dr Izzettin Baris, who began studying patients in Tuzkoy and two other affected villages, Karaiun and Sarahidir, in the mid-1970s.´

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11711136

    It is really a tragedy that it took so long to convince the authorities of the problem but at last something is being done.


    4999.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     12 Nov 2010 Fri 11:32 pm

    Ok...so if the Americans are bed...who socks?  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

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    5000.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     12 Dec 2010 Sun 01:24 pm

    Suicide bomber blows himself up in Sweden

    Approximately ten minutes before the explosions occurred, Swedish news agency TT received an email, also addressed to Säpo, in which a reached out to “Sweden and the Swedish people”.

    He cites Sweden’s silence surrounding the cartoons by Swedish Lars Vilks which portray the prophet Mohammed as a dog, the Swedish troops in Afghanistan, saying in audio files attached to the email that “now your children, daughters and sisters die like our brothers’ and sisters’ children die”.

    “Our actions will speak for themselves. As long as you don’t stop your war against Islam and degrading the prophet and your stupid support of that pig Vilks,” the man said.

    The man also urges all Muslims in Sweden to “stop sucking up to and degrading”. He concludes the message with yet another call to “all the mujahedeen in Europe and Sweden”.

    “Now it’s time to act, don’t wait any longer. Fear no one, don’t fear prison, don’t fear death.”

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I wonder if the idiot objects to social welfare benefits the state offers him...If you don´t like our freedom of speech, stay in your parody of a country.

     

    5001.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     12 Dec 2010 Sun 02:43 pm

    It´s kind of lame to say "your children will die" and than you kill...nobody but yourself. I guess he didn´t finish the entire suicide-bomber course.

    5002.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     24 Jan 2011 Mon 08:33 pm

    This news report about honor killings caught my eye.  http://video.foxnews.com/v/4508040/graphic-video-from-deadly-airport-blast#/v/4507799/honor-killings-in-america/?playlist_id=87485

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    5003.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     25 Jan 2011 Tue 01:49 pm

    I loved Dr Jasser´s comment about the need to address this issue in Muslim communities rather than pretending they are but an aberration. 5,000 occurences a year in one country is a lot and turning a blind eye to it doesn´t help

    On a non-Muslim related subject, PC is getting more and more ridiculous. First I thought that the people who came up with the idea to dress Twain´s Huckelberry Finn with politically correct verbal register win the idiot of the year competition, but Canada is close behind with their banning of Dire Straits Money for Nothing song for containing the word "faggot"

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    5004.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 Jan 2011 Tue 04:35 pm

    I personally think that it will soon go out of fashion to be PC and people will go back to saying what is really on their mind and then WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO ADDRESS WHAT IS REALLY BOTHERING PEOPLE!!!!!!!{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    Now mind you, I think people shouldn´t purposely hurt feelings but does everyone really have to be so sensitive? 

     

    PC is SOOOOO last year!

    5005.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     25 Jan 2011 Tue 05:04 pm

    PC is very last year in The Netherlands, and I miss it. Some people have taken the "freedom of speech" rights to mean "freedom to be a rude a-hole". Since when does voicing your opinion give you the right to insult everything and everybody who is slightly different from you?

    5006.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 Jan 2011 Tue 06:37 pm

     

    Quoting barba_mama

    PC is very last year in The Netherlands, and I miss it. Some people have taken the "freedom of speech" rights to mean "freedom to be a rude a-hole". Since when does voicing your opinion give you the right to insult everything and everybody who is slightly different from you?

    

     I think being PC and having effective communication without hurting someones feelings are very different barba.  Being PC, in my opinion, is saying something just so you can fit in with a certain crowd or make yourself look good.  If you are being PC you are not saying what you mean but being fake.  There are times where hurting someones feelings is inevitable and there are also times when it is very unneccessary to say what you´re thinking. 

    5007.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     25 Jan 2011 Tue 09:22 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

    

     I think being PC and having effective communication without hurting someones feelings are very different barba.  Being PC, in my opinion, is saying something just so you can fit in with a certain crowd or make yourself look good.  If you are being PC you are not saying what you mean but being fake.  There are times where hurting someones feelings is inevitable and there are also times when it is very unneccessary to say what you´re thinking. 

    Not to mention giving the sense of authenticity in a novel set in a particular time...

     

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    5008.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     25 Jan 2011 Tue 09:26 pm

    What caught my eye? 

    Daydreamer in the forum with a capital "D"

    daydreamer listed in online users with a lower case "d"

     

    Weird...or do you have a split personality/ID?  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    Capital D is very straight forward and un-PC.

    Lower case d is demure and sweet??? lol

    5009.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:06 pm

    A German actress of Turkish origin, Sibel Kekilli (Head-on) appears in my these days favourite tv show A Game of Thrones on HBO. She´s playing a prostitute named Shae and she´s brilliant

    5010.       si++
    3785 posts
     21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:54 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    A German actress of Turkish origin, Sibel Kekilli (Head-on) appears in my these days favourite tv show A Game of Thrones on HBO. She´s playing a prostitute named Shae and she´s brilliant

     

    The only way for her to enter Hollywood is to undress. German turn Turks to everything.

     

    I have noticed 8 Turkish-origin players in German squad in fifa u17 world cup in Mexico. I imagine in the future we will see more Turkish origin players in German squad maybe more than Poles.

    http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/teams/team=1882404/index.html

    5011.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     22 Jun 2011 Wed 11:42 am

    Well, in her defense, most of the actresses and actors in the series undress at some stage. The show is pretty explicit. I´d consider it a great role to get, I bet it wasn´t easy.

    As for football, you´re totally right, we´ve had jokes about Poland: Germany match

    "Two football fans are talking, one says

    -I had a dream about this Poland:Germany match. I saw two goals being scored by Poles.

    - Yeah, I bet one was Klose and the other Podolski"

     

    5012.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     30 Jun 2011 Thu 04:43 pm

    The old Nigerian royal scam is on TC, but it is from the Ivory Coast this time, here´s what I got in my pm box:

    Greetings beloved one,

    I am writing this letter in confidence believing that if it is the wish of God for you to help me, God almighty will bless and reward you abundantly and you would never regret.

    I am 22yrs old. A student from Republic of Cote d’Ivoire Abidjan.  I’ do like any person who can be caring, loving and home oriented. I will love to have a long-term relationship with you and as your and to know more about you. I would like to build up a solid foundation with you in time coming if you can be able to help me in this transaction. Well, my father died earlier some months ago and left me as the only daughter behind. He was a royal highness my community town citizen titled him over 16 years before his death, and also economic operator, director (manager) company (society) late Chief Michel Assemien Kassi.
     
    I was a princess to him and I am the only person who can take care of his wealth and my mother is not literate enough to know my entire father´s wealth. He left the sum of USD 5.650, 000.00 dollars (Five Million, six Hundred and Fifty Thousand US Dollars) in a financial Bank here. This money was annually paid into my late father’s account from Shell petroleum development company(SPDC) and chevron oil company operating in our locality for the compensation of youth and community development in our jurisdiction.

    I don´t know how and what I will do to invest this money somewhere in abroad, so that my father´s kindred will not take over what belongs to as the only daughter, which they were planning to do without my present because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town. Now, I urgently need your humble assistance to transfer this money from the Bank here in my country to your country and I strongly believe that by the grace of God, And after the transfer you will help me invest this money wisely over there.

    I am ready to offer 15% of the total amount to you if you help me in this transaction and another 10% interest of Annual after Income to you, for handling this transaction for us, which you will strongly have absolute control over. If you can handle this project sincerely and also willing to assist me in lifting this money, kindly reach me. Please, note that this transaction is 100% risk free and I hope to commence the transaction as quick as possible, I will send you my picture and also give you more details about this transaction as soon as I hear from you.

    Please reply me through my private mailbox below:
    ( princess_m.sameera@bullsh*t.com )

    Yours sincerely,
    Miss Sameera Michel Assemien Kassi (Princess)
    ( princess_m.sameera@bullsh*t.com )

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     

    Seriously, do people really buy this nonsense? {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    5013.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     30 Jun 2011 Thu 06:04 pm

    Not to worry, DD!  I have saved us all from this low life scam artist!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    5014.       alameda
    3499 posts
     01 Jul 2011 Fri 05:10 am

    I got the same one....reported it as spam. 

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Not to worry, DD!  I have saved us all from this low life scam artist!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

     

    5015.       libralady
    5152 posts
     03 Jul 2011 Sun 10:53 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    The old Nigerian royal scam is on TC, but it is from the Ivory Coast this time, here´s what I got in my pm box:

    Greetings beloved one,

    I am writing this letter in confidence believing that if it is the wish of God for you to help me, God almighty will bless and reward you abundantly and you would never regret.

    I am 22yrs old. A student from Republic of Cote d’Ivoire Abidjan.  I’ do like any person who can be caring, loving and home oriented. I will love to have a long-term relationship with you and as your and to know more about you. I would like to build up a solid foundation with you in time coming if you can be able to help me in this transaction. Well, my father died earlier some months ago and left me as the only daughter behind. He was a royal highness my community town citizen titled him over 16 years before his death, and also economic operator, director (manager) company (society) late Chief Michel Assemien Kassi.
     
    I was a princess to him and I am the only person who can take care of his wealth and my mother is not literate enough to know my entire father´s wealth. He left the sum of USD 5.650, 000.00 dollars (Five Million, six Hundred and Fifty Thousand US Dollars) in a financial Bank here. This money was annually paid into my late father’s account from Shell petroleum development company(SPDC) and chevron oil company operating in our locality for the compensation of youth and community development in our jurisdiction.

    I don´t know how and what I will do to invest this money somewhere in abroad, so that my father´s kindred will not take over what belongs to as the only daughter, which they were planning to do without my present because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town. Now, I urgently need your humble assistance to transfer this money from the Bank here in my country to your country and I strongly believe that by the grace of God, And after the transfer you will help me invest this money wisely over there.

    I am ready to offer 15% of the total amount to you if you help me in this transaction and another 10% interest of Annual after Income to you, for handling this transaction for us, which you will strongly have absolute control over. If you can handle this project sincerely and also willing to assist me in lifting this money, kindly reach me. Please, note that this transaction is 100% risk free and I hope to commence the transaction as quick as possible, I will send you my picture and also give you more details about this transaction as soon as I hear from you.

    Please reply me through my private mailbox below:
    ( princess_m.sameera@bullsh*t.com )

    Yours sincerely,
    Miss Sameera Michel Assemien Kassi (Princess)
    ( princess_m.sameera@bullsh*t.com )

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     

    Seriously, do people really buy this nonsense? {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

     

     I got 4 of these, so they (I) must have been pretty desparate! 

     

    Yours sincerely princess sameera {#emotions_dlg.shy}

    5016.       bydand
    755 posts
     26 Sep 2011 Mon 02:57 pm

    26th September European Day of Languages. !0th anniversary of the event encouraging Europeans to learn a foreign language.

    5017.       lemon
    1374 posts
     06 Nov 2011 Sun 07:37 am

    floods in Italy.

    5018.       lemon
    1374 posts
     10 Nov 2011 Thu 06:33 am

    Another quake in Van

    winter has come too quick this year.

    5019.       lemon
    1374 posts
     11 Nov 2011 Fri 08:09 am

    demonstration in Van against the local authorities was passified by the police force.

    5020.       lemon
    1374 posts
     11 Nov 2011 Fri 08:12 am

    Looks like immortal Berlusconi is about to leave the government leaving behind huge debts that may bring italy to the same fate as that of greece.

     

    Russia is in WTO.

    5021.       lemon
    1374 posts
     11 Nov 2011 Fri 10:06 am

    the most sought words in europe:

    tilt

    kim kardashian

    charlie hebdo

    penn state

    google gravity

    5022.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Nov 2011 Sat 07:45 am

    Croatia 3 - 0

     

    Was sad to watch people in Van in this weather, however kids were playing happily in the snow.

    5023.       lemon
    1374 posts
     12 Nov 2011 Sat 08:02 am

    a ferry with a terrorist was caught in turkey.

    5024.       lemon
    1374 posts
     15 Nov 2011 Tue 08:15 am

    {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    The huge blast to the west of Tehran was felt in the capital. The authorities say it was an accident, denying suggestions that it was sabotage.

    The American magazine Time believes differently. It spells out what Israeli media have hinted at: that this was the work of Israel’s secret service.

    5025.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 Nov 2011 Thu 07:37 am

    Watching news.

    Wars, demonstrations, floods, quakes, economic crisis, etc. 

    watching news drives you into depression.

    5026.       lemon
    1374 posts
     17 Nov 2011 Thu 07:44 am

    Hiddink left Turkey.

    Turks were commenting that his mentality is not compatible to Turks´ and that he is from north therefore he wouldnt be able to work with teams from Spain, Italy or Greece.

    However, he worked with Russia and South Korea, leading them to semi-finals.  {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}



    Edited (11/17/2011) by lemon

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    5027.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Dec 2011 Mon 08:42 am

    Kim Dzong Il dead.

    5028.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     28 Dec 2011 Wed 10:45 pm

    Tourists visit acropolis on a cable car

    İZMİR - Doğan News Agency

     

    Transportation to the Pergamum acropolis is easier now thanks to the cable car. Hürriyet photo

    Transportation to the Pergamum acropolis is easier now thanks to the cable car. Hürriyet photo

    The acropolis in İzmir’s Pergamum ancient city, which is located up a 330-meter hill, is drawing more tourists since transportation has been made easier with the construction of a cable car. 

    Acropolis Cable Car A.Ş. Facility Director Serdal Sarı said transportation to the acropolis had been provided through a very narrow and dangerous road and tour busses damaged the ancient area, but thanks to the construction of the cable car, 220,000 people had visited the acropolis in one year. 

    He said the cable car began to serve in October 2010 and interest in the acropolis increased to a great extent since then. “Eighty percent of tourists prefer the cable car to see the acropolis and they reach the ruins by seeing the view of Pergamum. The main purpose of the cable car facility is to preserve the acropolis ruins. We observe that tourists enjoy the travel while reaching the acropolis. The uncomfortable and dangerous travel ended thanks to the facility,” he said. 

    Sarı said some travel companies had reacted against the new transportation when the cable car opened to the public. “But we have solved the problem after a short time and have good communication now.”
    Sarı said the cable car cost nearly 12 million Turkish Liras. “We have increased the number of cabins from nine to 15 due to great demand,” he concluded.

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    Always nice when they make it easier for more people to see some fantasic sites!! 

     

    Source:  http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tourists-visit-acropolis-on-a-cable-car--.aspx?pageID=238&nID=10130&NewsCatID=379

     

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    5029.       MarioninTurkey
    6124 posts
     29 Dec 2011 Thu 04:21 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    Tourists visit acropolis on a cable car

    İZMİR - Doğan News Agency

     

    Transportation to the Pergamum acropolis is easier now thanks to the cable car. Hürriyet photo

    Transportation to the Pergamum acropolis is easier now thanks to the cable car. Hürriyet photo

    The acropolis in İzmir’s Pergamum ancient city, which is located up a 330-meter hill, is drawing more tourists since transportation has been made easier with the construction of a cable car. 

    Acropolis Cable Car A.Ş. Facility Director Serdal Sarı said transportation to the acropolis had been provided through a very narrow and dangerous road and tour busses damaged the ancient area, but thanks to the construction of the cable car, 220,000 people had visited the acropolis in one year. 

    He said the cable car began to serve in October 2010 and interest in the acropolis increased to a great extent since then. “Eighty percent of tourists prefer the cable car to see the acropolis and they reach the ruins by seeing the view of Pergamum. The main purpose of the cable car facility is to preserve the acropolis ruins. We observe that tourists enjoy the travel while reaching the acropolis. The uncomfortable and dangerous travel ended thanks to the facility,” he said. 

    Sarı said some travel companies had reacted against the new transportation when the cable car opened to the public. “But we have solved the problem after a short time and have good communication now.”
    Sarı said the cable car cost nearly 12 million Turkish Liras. “We have increased the number of cabins from nine to 15 due to great demand,” he concluded.

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    Always nice when they make it easier for more people to see some fantasic sites!! 

     

    Source:  http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tourists-visit-acropolis-on-a-cable-car--.aspx?pageID=238&nID=10130&NewsCatID=379

     

     

     Wonderful! also, anyone in Berlin MUST visit the Pergamon panorama exhibition. It is an amazing reproduction of what Bergama was like 1900 years ago.

     

    (Also subject of my book review for this Sunday!)

     

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    5030.       lemon
    1374 posts
     30 Dec 2011 Fri 10:33 am

    Kim Dzong Il´s funeral.

    5031.       lemon
    1374 posts
     05 Jan 2012 Thu 09:48 am

    A dead silence in the general/off topic section. 

    5032.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     09 Jan 2012 Mon 02:42 am

    Oh well, all the crazy people hardly ever come here anymore (but for one, but she´s a big important admin person now so shoving people around is what turns her on ) and the new ones are soooo boring with their constant translation requests. I doubt they ever check other forums, especially those less holiday-ishly lovey-dovey

    As for me, I am always so absolutely ashamed coming here and thinking it´s been 6 or 7 years since I came here first and I should be fluent in Turkish by now. Instead I hardly remember what I had been studying so intensely (and after having a really good start - check my early posts, some are in Turkish!) so many hours spending on cramming Turkish vocabulary and now there´s little left of it Cry Well, maybe when my kids get more independent I might be able to steal a minute for myself and catching up with the rest of the world. That is if my brain will still be willing to learn!

    5033.       Raphaela
    9 posts
     09 Jan 2012 Mon 09:57 am

    That´s so true, Daydreamer.

    Happy New Year, by the way!

    5034.       si++
    3785 posts
     09 Jan 2012 Mon 10:03 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Oh well, all the crazy people hardly ever come here anymore (but for one, but she´s a big important admin person now so shoving people around is what turns her on ) and the new ones are soooo boring with their constant translation requests. I doubt they ever check other forums, especially those less holiday-ishly lovey-dovey

    As for me, I am always so absolutely ashamed coming here and thinking it´s been 6 or 7 years since I came here first and I should be fluent in Turkish by now. Instead I hardly remember what I had been studying so intensely (and after having a really good start - check my early posts, some are in Turkish!) so many hours spending on cramming Turkish vocabulary and now there´s little left of it Cry Well, maybe when my kids get more independent I might be able to steal a minute for myself and catching up with the rest of the world. That is if my brain will still be willing to learn!

    Do you include (or exclude) yourself in what you call "the crazy people"?

     

    5035.       Daydreamer
    3743 posts
     10 Jan 2012 Tue 02:56 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

    Do you include (or exclude) yourself in what you call "the crazy people"?

     

     

    Definitely exclude! I am the most boring serious, sane person I´ve ever known Cool

     

    Raphaela - Happy New Year to you too! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}



    Edited (1/10/2012) by Daydreamer

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    5036.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     10 Jan 2012 Tue 04:34 pm

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

     

     

    Definitely exclude! I am the most boring serious, sane person I´ve ever known Cool

     

    Raphaela - Happy New Year to you too! {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

     

     Your sanity is eclipsed only by your humility!  {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}



    Edited (1/11/2012) by Elisabeth

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    5037.       slavica
    814 posts
     14 Jan 2012 Sat 12:36 am

     

    Quoting Raphaela

    That´s so true, Daydreamer.

    Happy New Year, by the way!

     

    Happy New Year to both of you, my dears

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    5038.       slavica
    814 posts
     14 Jan 2012 Sat 12:44 am

     

    Quoting Daydreamer

    Oh well, all the crazy people hardly ever come here anymore (but for one, but she´s a big important admin person now so shoving people around is what turns her on ) and the new ones are soooo boring with their constant translation requests. I doubt they ever check other forums, especially those less holiday-ishly lovey-dovey

     

     

    Crazy or not, the "old" ones still use to drop here now and then... Nostalgy, I´d say...

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    5039.       Sampanya
    48 posts
     18 Jan 2012 Wed 09:45 pm

    lol I laughed my ass off.

    5040.       Sampanya
    48 posts
     19 Jan 2012 Thu 08:51 pm

    This caught my eye today: http://istiyor.us/video/120103

     

    A beautiful car ride, granted the music was playing 

     

    5041.       Sampanya
    48 posts
     20 Jan 2012 Fri 09:50 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSxSh1wNQos

     

    5042.       Sampanya
    48 posts
     23 Jan 2012 Mon 05:03 pm

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1GBB0_fpRM

     Kalamam Arkadaş (Murat Boz)

    {#emotions_dlg.nargile}

    5043.       lemon
    1374 posts
     13 Feb 2012 Mon 01:02 pm

    Whitney Houston is dead.

    5044.       insallah
    1277 posts
     09 Mar 2012 Fri 11:49 pm

    Today and every day this week.............. The lovey dovey messages in translation forum fromTristerecuerdos {#emotions_dlg.puking}



    Edited (3/9/2012) by insallah
    Edited (3/9/2012) by insallah

    5045.       lemon
    1374 posts
     19 Mar 2012 Mon 08:49 pm

    Shootings in France.

    5046.       barba_mama
    1629 posts
     20 Mar 2012 Tue 10:57 pm

    5047.       lemon
    1374 posts
     26 Mar 2012 Mon 05:01 pm

    Someone on purpose played a disgusting piece during award ceremony in Kuweit. They say its a mistake, but I am sure that this was on purpose to belittle Kazakhstan.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/offbeat/story/2012/03/24/kazakhstan-spoof-anthem-kuwait.html

    5048.       insallah
    1277 posts
     03 Apr 2012 Tue 01:41 am

     

     

    Bad I know but cheesy

    5049.       insallah
    1277 posts
     09 Apr 2012 Mon 12:05 am

    No comment

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eoa9h9hM3Q

    5050.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     14 May 2012 Mon 06:57 pm

    TheJanissary...is alive!

    5051.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     17 May 2012 Thu 10:16 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

    TheJanissary...is alive!

     

    So is Elisabeth!

    5052.       Elisabeth
    5732 posts
     18 May 2012 Fri 04:23 pm

     

    Quoting girleegirl

     

     

    So is Elisabeth!

     

     AND GIRLEEGIRL! 

    5053.       girleegirl
    5065 posts
     18 May 2012 Fri 08:09 pm

     

    Quoting Elisabeth

     

     

    AND GIRLEEGIRL!

     

    Oh nooooooo! Not her!!!

    5054.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Jan 2013 Mon 02:01 am

    French+UK attacking Mali.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21004040

    France has attacked Islamist militants in Mali in recent days, to support the Malian government...

    ====

    But why?

    What rights do they have to attack?


    5055.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Jan 2013 Thu 08:30 pm

    Mehmet Ali Birand, a well-known Turkish journalist, Hürriyet Daily News columnist and chief news editor of private channel Kanal D, passed away late today in hospital after undergoing surgery.

    Mehmet Ali Birand, Hürriyet Photo


    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/prominent-turkish-journalist-hdn-columnist-birand-passes-away.aspx?pageID=238&nID=39283&NewsCatID=341

     

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    5056.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Jan 2013 Fri 10:54 pm

    ´Two detained´ over Kurdish PKK activists´ Paris deaths

    Two people have been detained in connection with the deaths of three Kurdish activists in Paris earlier this month, French media reports say.

    A co-founder of the Kurdistan Workers´ Party, Sakine Cansiz, and activists Fidan Dogan and Leyla Soylemez were found shot dead on 10 January.

    ..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21093550

    5057.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 Jan 2013 Wed 07:47 pm

     

    Native Americans are not  Turks but Chinese!!!

    http://haber.gazetevatan.com/hani-onlar-da-turktu/508411/7/Manset (Turkish !!)

    http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20130122-174101-2300

     

    It says : 

    Researchers say ancient DNA suggests humans living 40,000 years in China were likely related to many present-day Asians and American Indians.

    ..

     

    But but we thought they were Turks!!! CryCryCry

    I bet this is another western conspiracy!! 



    Edited (1/23/2013) by thehandsom
    Edited (1/23/2013) by thehandsom

    5058.       nevbahar
    78 posts
     24 Jan 2013 Thu 10:34 pm

    çinlilerin türk olduklarını ispatladık mı.. bu iş tamamdır... bir taşla iki kuş..{#emotions_dlg.yes}

    5059.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Jan 2013 Thu 11:19 pm

     

    Quoting nevbahar

    çinlilerin türk olduklarını ispatladık mı.. bu iş tamamdır... bir taşla iki kuş..{#emotions_dlg.yes}

     

    Yes, but if everybody is a Turk or from Turkic origin, what is the point of being a Turk?

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    5060.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Feb 2013 Mon 03:30 pm

    Fertility tests begin on Edinburgh Zoo panda Tian Tian


    The test results allow staff at the zoo to judge the right time to put Tian Tian together with Yang Guang in the hope of producing panda cubs.

    Last year the pair’s first mating season together attracting worldwide interest but ended in disappointment.

     

    It is believed Tian Tian’s season will arrive between March and May and will only last around 36 hours making the tests crucial.

    ..

    However, in 2012 they failed to mate after Tian Tian’s hormone levels dropped and became too low to mate.

    The pair showed interest in each other at the time – sometimes taking the form of wrestling – but failed to mate successfully.

     

    Two giant pandas play at the Wolong Panda Research Center

     

    Source: http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2013/01/14/fertility-tests-begin-on-edinburgh-zoo-panda-tian-tian/

    ===

    We wish you good luck Tian Tian!!

     


     

     

    5061.       Abla
    3648 posts
     09 Feb 2013 Sat 02:09 am

     

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    5062.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Feb 2013 Tue 12:10 am

    Pope Benedict XVI has resigned – what happens next?

     

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/11/pope-benedict-resigned-what-next

    ===========

    I nominate Alpha!! {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

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    5063.       stumpy
    638 posts
     12 Feb 2013 Tue 07:20 pm

    Quote: thehandsome

    I nominate Alpha!! {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    Oh I must warn you, there is a test they make you pass before ascending to the Holy See...

    They make you sit bare bottum on a chair with a hole in the center of it, they then reach underneath to feel if there is anything hanging down and do a visual inspection, if there are, how do I say, family jewels hanging then you qualify to be Pope if there is nothing hanging down there then you are disqualified as it is forbidden for a woman to be Pope.

    Good luck {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

    5064.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Feb 2013 Wed 12:23 am

     

    Quoting stumpy

    Oh I must warn you, there is a test they make you pass before ascending to the Holy See...

    They make you sit bare bottum on a chair with a hole in the center of it, they then reach underneath to feel if there is anything hanging down and do a visual inspection, if there are, how do I say, family jewels hanging then you qualify to be Pope if there is nothing hanging down there then you are disqualified as it is forbidden for a woman to be Pope.

    Good luck {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

     

    Are you insinuating that there wont be anything hanging down with my nomination? {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    5065.       stumpy
    638 posts
     13 Feb 2013 Wed 02:50 am

    Quote: thehandsome

    Are you insinuating that there wont be anything hanging down with my nomination? {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

    not insinuating anything, with the nicks now days it´s hard to tell who is at the other end of the nick...

    in that case not a problem for you guys, it will probably be draging on the floor {#emotions_dlg.angel}

     

    5066.       insallah
    1277 posts
     16 Feb 2013 Sat 03:47 pm

    http://www.houseoffraser.co.uk/Ted+Baker+Twoarms+Long+sleeve+polo/177928238,default,pd.html

     

    Ted Baker "Two arms" Polo Shirt... you crazy

    Is it because polo shirts with only one arm are out of fashion ?

     

    5067.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Feb 2013 Sun 01:48 pm

     

    Quoting insallah

    http://www.houseoffraser.co.uk/Ted+Baker+Twoarms+Long+sleeve+polo/177928238,default,pd.html

     

    Ted Baker "Two arms" Polo Shirt... you crazy

    Is it because polo shirts with only one arm are out of fashion ?

     

     

    You are so out-of-date!!

    "polo shirts with one arm" were quite popular  last spring but considered as antique in these day.

    Polo shirts with three arms are on its way!! 

    5068.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     25 Feb 2013 Mon 10:19 pm

    Cardinal Keith O´Brien resigns as Archbishop

    it said:


    The former priest claims Cardinal O´Brien made an inappropriate approach to him in 1980, after night prayers,..
    A second statement from another complainant says he was living in a parish when he was visited by O´Brien, and inappropriate contact took place between them
    A third complainant alleges dealing with what he describes as "unwanted behaviour" by the cardinal in the 1980s after some late-night drinking
    And the fourth complainant claims the cardinal used night prayers as an excuse for inappropriate contact..

    source:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724 

    ============

    I wonder this is one of the visible results of men having less sperms in these days or he simply is a single case which is the results of cleaning agents Alameda was complaining in another thread as ´Too many of our men are being chemically castrated´. 

     

     

    5069.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Mar 2013 Wed 10:49 am

    PA’LANTE COMANDANTE CHAVEZ!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21679053

     

     

     

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    5070.       tunci
    7149 posts
     07 Mar 2013 Thu 12:48 am

     

    Adios  Hugo Chavez. Rest in Peace honourable man.

     

    5071.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Mar 2013 Wed 12:06 pm

    Syria crisis: Children

     

     

    ..The research team at Bahcesehir University in Turkey found that not only had three in every four children they spoke to had lost a loved one, but one in every three children had been hit, kicked or shot at in the course of the conflict.

    "I don´t think there is a single child untouched by this war," the report quotes a child called Safa as saying. "Everyone has seen death, everyone has lost someone. I know no one who has not suffered as we have. It is on such a scale."..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21760461

    ------------------

    Over 1.000.000 refugees, over 70.000 death in a country of 20million.

    This is a human misery  

     

     

    5072.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Mar 2013 Wed 09:39 pm

    Pope Francis I is elected. Cry

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21777747

    ===========

    I think it was fixed!!!

    What was wrong with Pope AlphaF I? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

     

    5073.       insallah
    1277 posts
     13 Mar 2013 Wed 10:24 pm

    What is going on I am away for a few days and both Nev and Aida leave the site Cry



    Edited (3/13/2013) by insallah

    5074.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Mar 2013 Wed 11:37 pm

     

    Quoting insallah

    What is going on I am away for a few days and both Nev and Aida leave the site Cry

     

    They were the queens of chat room

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    5075.       nemanjasrb
    507 posts
     14 Mar 2013 Thu 03:41 pm

     

    Quoting insallah

    What is going on I am away for a few days and both Nev and Aida leave the site Cry

     

     

    ?? Why ?? Cry What happened?!

    5076.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Mar 2013 Thu 11:30 pm

    10000 £ bionic dog Bumblebee

     

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297816/The-10-000-bionic-basset-hound-Touching-story-Bumblebee-vulnerable-owner-bond-melt-heart.html

    5077.       insallah
    1277 posts
     01 Apr 2013 Mon 12:31 pm

    http://blog.virgin-atlantic.com/t5/Our-Experience/Virgin-Atlantic-Launches-World-s-First-Ever-Glass-Bottomed-Plane/ba-p/6096#.UVlI9-spxR4.facebook

     

    This caught my eye today , however I have a feeling it may be Mr Branson´s attempt at April fools.

     

    If not, i´m not sure I fancy a flight on it

     

    Virgin Atlantic´s glass-bottomed plane.jpg



    Edited (4/1/2013) by insallah

    5078.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     08 Apr 2013 Mon 03:21 pm

    Ex-Prime Minister Maggie Thatcher dies!


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155

    5079.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Apr 2013 Sat 02:11 am

    Green light to Canal Istanbul project

    The government has pushed the button for the Canal Istanbul project, which will create a big island on the European side of Istanbul, after the Higher Planning Committee signed the project, two years after it was announced by the prime minister.

    ..

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/govt-gives-green-light-to-crazy-canal-istanbul-project.aspx?pageID=238&nID=44823&NewsCatID=341

     

    ==================

    It is a mouth watering project from the civil engineering point of view but from the environment point of view and as far as city planning are concerned it is a disaster!!

    It will increase the population of Istanbul, destroy the northern green areas of Istanbul  and I dont think they know what sort of environmental effect they will get in the end.

     

    5080.       Abla
    3648 posts
     13 Apr 2013 Sat 09:08 am

    Quote: thehandsom

    Canal Istanbul project

     

    The wish to change the direction of flowing waters or tamper coastlines are symptoms of a disease typical only to humans: megalomany. Josif Stalin wanted to turn the waters of River Volga, sheikh Mohamad ibn Rashid Al Maktum has changed the coastline of his desperate piece of desert into a patchwork quilt. The environmental impacts of this disease are enormous. This is what happens when you have too much riches and power and no culture.

     

    Why Istanbul?

     

    Birds in the sky are going to be confused.



    Edited (4/13/2013) by Abla
    Edited (4/13/2013) by Abla [I must read it carefully first. :))]
    Edited (4/14/2013) by Abla
    Edited (4/14/2013) by Abla
    Edited (4/14/2013) by Abla

    5081.       Abla
    3648 posts
     14 Apr 2013 Sun 12:20 pm

    hands, why are you hiding important Istanbul issues in the offtopics?

     

    You have been here since the times of Hz. Nuh, I wish you would learn how to use this website.



    Edited (4/14/2013) by Abla

    5082.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     14 Apr 2013 Sun 07:44 pm

     

    Quoting Abla

    hands, why are you hiding important Istanbul issues in the offtopics?

     

    You have been here since the times of Hz. Nuh, I wish you would learn how to use this website.

     

    Grrrr..

    I am not a person who would compete for ´New in Forum´ section. I believe New in Forum section is over rated



    Edited (4/14/2013) by thehandsom

    5083.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Apr 2013 Mon 11:43 am

    Fazil Say gets 10-month suspended jail term for blasphemy..

    ..

    Fazil Say, Hürriyet Photo

     

     

    The court handed down the sentence after finding Say guilty of "insulting religious values of a part of the population" for a series of provocative tweets that critics said had insulted Islam and Muslims. The pianist was not present in court during the sentencing.

    ..

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-pianist-fazil-say-gets-10-month-suspended-jail-term-for-blasphemy.aspx?pageID=238&nID=44926&NewsCatID=341

    =================

    My huge OHAAA goes to the court and the government..



    Edited (4/15/2013) by thehandsom

    5084.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Apr 2013 Sat 01:37 pm

    An Exhibition in Istanbul:

    Bearing Witness to the Lost History of an Armenian Family
    Through the Lens of the Dildilian Brothers (1872-1923)

    Source : http://www.depoistanbul.net/en/activites_detail.asp?ac=88

    And two videos from Survivers Oral History Project:

    http://webtv.radikal.com.tr/Turkiye/3315/dildilian-lar-sergisi.aspx

    http://webtv.radikal.com.tr/Turkiye/3314/dildilian-lar-sergisi.aspx



    Edited (4/27/2013) by thehandsom

    5085.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 May 2013 Thu 01:09 pm

    Rubber Duck

     

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/02/travel/hong-kong-giant-duck/

     

    The duck added a surreal touch to the city´s iconic skyline. No doubt those in the Central financial district found time in their busy days to post countless photos to social media taken from their high office perches.

     

    We want to see it in Istanbul too.

    Infact, I want one of these in my garden ..

    5086.       Abla
    3648 posts
     02 May 2013 Thu 04:34 pm

    Couldn´t you take the Posankka of Turku instead?

     

     

    Please.

    5087.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 May 2013 Thu 06:20 pm

     

    Quoting Abla

    Couldn´t you take the Posankka of Turku instead?

     

     

    Please.

     

    Omg..

    What the heck is that??{#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    It can give you nightmares!!!

     

    And why do you call it Turku? Just to say something to us? eh?

    5088.       Abla
    3648 posts
     02 May 2013 Thu 06:35 pm

    Quote: thehandsom

    And why do you call it Turku?

    Hey if we called it Turkey we would exhaust from explaining people we don´t mean that bird with a fleshy wattle hanging from the top of its beak.

    5089.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 May 2013 Thu 06:56 pm

     

    Quoting Abla

     

    Hey if we called it Turkey we would exhaust from explaining people we don´t mean that bird with a fleshy wattle hanging from the top of its beak.

     

    But what sort fo creature is that?

    An unfreathered hybrid cross-species animal? Half pork and a half pelican?

    5090.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 May 2013 Fri 02:18 pm

    Justin Bieber abandons stage due to raining toys

    ..

    Fans were throwing toys and scarves at the beloved singer as a show of appreciation, but the teen magnet decided he wanted no more of it, and abandoned the stage.

    He stayed backstage and refused to come out until an announcement was made in Turkish, informing fans that the show would not go on until the toys stopped coming in.

    Bieber then continued on with his show.

    Justin Bieber Sings in Concert

     

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/justin-bieber-abandons-stage-due-to-raining-toys.aspx?pageID=238&nID=46154&NewsCatID=383

    =====

    I read that girls throw  bras, knickers and even shoes to the stars, but it was the first time I heard head scarves thrown to them.  

    5091.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 May 2013 Wed 01:20 am

    Drop everything and run.(Streak for Tigers)

     

    ZSL London Zoo is hosting a very unique and daring event on the evening of Thursday 15 August. We are looking for 300 supporters to strip off and bare all for Tigers and streak around ZSL London Zoo!

    With only 300 Sumatran Tigers left in the wild, we hope this event will not only raise much needed funds for ZSL but it will also highlight and raise the profile of the drastic work that needs to be done in order to save the Sumatran Tiger.

     

    http://www.zsl.org/support-us/challenge-events/streak-for-tigers-thursday-15-august,2096,AR.html

     

    http://www.queerty.com/london-zookeeper-gets-naked-for-tiger-charity-20130513/

    ====

    Just wondering if I save a tiger or two

    5092.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 May 2013 Sun 09:34 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVD4x1NG95k

    Robots playing kolbasti

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    5093.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     23 May 2013 Thu 01:44 pm

    Butchering a soldier in the middle of London.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634468

     

    5094.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     07 Jun 2013 Fri 07:15 pm

    Syria adviced a travel warning to all its citizens against travelling to Turkey.

    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/planet/23420831.asp (Turkish) 

    5095.       insallah
    1277 posts
     07 Jun 2013 Fri 08:49 pm

     Quoting thehandsomSyria adviced a travel warning to all its citizens against travelling to Turkey. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/planet/23420831.asp (Turkish)   The British advice is the same, all but essential travel https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/turkeyBut if you look at some of the other reasons for other areas they seem less based on genuine high risk

    Edited (6/7/2013) by insallah

    5096.       insallah
    1277 posts
     07 Jun 2013 Fri 08:50 pm

    hmm not sure what happened above  The British advice is the same, all but essential travel  https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/turkey But if you look at some of the other reasons for other areas they seem less based on genuine high risk

    5097.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     10 Jun 2013 Mon 11:52 pm

    The World Naked Bike Ride took place on Saturday - in protest not against clothes, but against car culture.
    The annual event aims to raise awareness of cycling as an environmentally friendly option and takes place in over 50 cities around the world.

    Hundreds of bare-bottomed (and/or bare-chested) cyclists took to the roads of London as part of the celebration-slash-protest.

    ..

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/10/world-naked-bike-ride-day_n_3414958.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

     

    They were quite fun actually..

    I was in Trafalgar sq when they were passing and at the same time there were some veiled Somailan women protesting something.. First they covered their faces with veils but they managed to have courage later on and they all started clapping. lol

     

    5098.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     17 Jun 2013 Mon 04:00 pm

    An article:

    Why Turks are good at protesting 

    http://www.inenart.eu/?p=10008

    5099.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Jun 2013 Mon 12:00 pm

    Nelson Mandela´s still critical in hospital

    .

    "I think there is need to be sombre about the news. There is a need not to hold out false hopes but at the same time let´s keep him in our thoughts and let´s will him more strength,"

    .

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23026780

    "I think there is need to be sombre about the news. There is a need not to hold out false hopes but at the same time let´s keep him in our thoughts and let´s will him more strength,"

    ============

    I think we will all feel as if we lost a relative when he passes away. 

     

    5100.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     28 Jun 2013 Fri 10:47 am

    Cyber terrorists?

    The Turkish hacker group Redhack announced early June 28 that they had hacked into the Istanbul Special Provincial Administration’s website and written off the debts of most of the public institutions.

    Redhack tweeted this morning about hacking the website of the Istanbul Special Provincial Administration, Turkish daily Radikal reported on its website. The hacker group cleared the electricity, internet connection, water, natural gas and phone debts of most of the public institutions to the state.
    ..

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/redhack-launches-cyber-attack-on-istanbul-special-provincial-administration.aspx?pageID=238&nID=49634&NewsCatID=341

    ---------------------------

    I like these guys..

    5101.       giz
    61 posts
     01 Jul 2013 Mon 12:16 am

    http://www.sabah.com.tr/Gundem/2013/06/29/ermenilige-hakaret-sucuna-2-yil-hapis

    5102.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Jul 2013 Mon 01:40 pm

     

    Quoting giz

    http://www.sabah.com.tr/Gundem/2013/06/29/ermenilige-hakaret-sucuna-2-yil-hapis

     

    If this law was applied to TC users, some  would be jailed as they insult Armenians in every given opportunity

    (just a quick info: The news is about a court case ´ insulting Armenians´ and insulting Armanians is a criminal offence punishable with 2 years sentence)

    5103.       si++
    3785 posts
     01 Jul 2013 Mon 02:44 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    If this law was applied to TC users, some  would be jailed as they insult Armenians in every given opportunity

    (just a quick info: The news is about a court case ´ insulting Armenians´ and insulting Armanians is a criminal offence punishable with 2 years sentence)

     

    çirkin şey

    I am curious where are those bits you think it is valid for this claim. Can you (if you can) give us thread name and post#?

    5104.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Jul 2013 Mon 04:05 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    çirkin şey

    I am curious where are those bits you think it is valid for this claim. Can you (if you can) give us thread name and post#?

     

    #talktothehand

    5105.       si++
    3785 posts
     01 Jul 2013 Mon 04:53 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    çirkin şey

    I am curious where are those bits you think it is valid for this claim. Can you (if you can) give us thread name and post#?

     

    Awaiting...

     

    5106.       giz
    61 posts
     02 Jul 2013 Tue 01:28 pm

    http://www.sabah.com.tr/Dunya/2013/06/28/aihmden-anneleri-uzen-karar

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    5107.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:37 am

    Egypt tense as army deadline for Morsi looms


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23157801

    ------------------------------

    Armies should not interfere with the politics..

    5108.       si++
    3785 posts
     03 Jul 2013 Wed 01:21 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    çirkin şey

    I am curious where are those bits you think it is valid for this claim. Can you (if you can) give us thread name and post#?

     

    Agop,

     

    Hala senden bir cevap bekliyoruz...

    5109.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Jul 2013 Wed 03:08 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    Agop,

     

    Hala senden bir cevap bekliyoruz...

     

     

    I dont think I would like to give an answer to a person who thinks or insinuates  calling a Turk with an Armenian name is an insult to that Turk. I dont think anybody  would give an answer to a person who has that mentality.

    The answer may friend, talking to the hand.

    The answer is talking to the hand.

     

     

    5110.       si++
    3785 posts
     03 Jul 2013 Wed 03:31 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

     

    I dont think I would like to give an answer to a person who thinks or insinuates  calling a Turk with an Armenian name is an insult to that Turk. I dont think anybody  would give an answer to a person who has that mentality.

    The answer may friend, talking to the hand.

    The answer is talking to the hand.

     

     

     

    Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

     

    You must support your claim with some evidence, right? Not for me but for others to get enlightened.

     

    Yoksa sen osuruktan tayyare misin? (Airplane from fart, say hi to that sweetheart)

    5111.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Jul 2013 Wed 04:53 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

     

    You must support your claim with some evidence, right? Not for me but for others to get enlightened.

     

    Yoksa sen osuruktan tayyare misin? (Airplane from fart, say hi to that sweetheart)

     

    The answer may friend, talking to the hand.

    The answer is talking to the hand.

    #duranadam neymis  #loosingman 

    5112.       si++
    3785 posts
     03 Jul 2013 Wed 08:18 pm

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    çirkin şey

    I am curious where are those bits you think it is valid for this claim. Can you (if you can) give us thread name and post#?

     

    Agop´çuğum, Sevgilim,

     

    Bekliyorum canım....

    5113.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Jul 2013 Thu 12:57 am

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    Agop´çuğum, Sevgilim,

     

    Bekliyorum canım....

     

    You have completely lost it lol lol..

    Eee. This was a kind of wrong judgment for you. You should have known your weight/scale/knowledge before doing this.   {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    5114.       si++
    3785 posts
     04 Jul 2013 Thu 08:46 am

    Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

     

    Senin Türkçen biraz kırık galiba. Türkçeyi mi anlamıyorsun nedir? Bir şey sorduk, cevap veremiyorsun. Tek bildiğin oryantal yapmak. Kırıtıp duruyorsun...

    5115.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Jul 2013 Thu 10:58 am

     

    Quoting si++

    Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

     

    Senin Türkçen biraz kırık galiba. Türkçeyi mi anlamıyorsun nedir? Bir şey sorduk, cevap veremiyorsun. Tek bildiğin oryantal yapmak. Kırıtıp duruyorsun...

     

    Ne sanzimanin kalmis ne de motorun. Allak bullak oldugun belli. Cevap verilecek halin mi kaldi?

    5116.       si++
    3785 posts
     04 Jul 2013 Thu 10:29 pm

     

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Ne sanzimanin kalmis ne de motorun. Allak bullak oldugun belli. Cevap verilecek halin mi kaldi?

     

    Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

    Cevabın var mı? Yoksa söyle. o da bir cevaptır. Kıvırtma.

    5117.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Jul 2013 Fri 01:40 am

     

    Quoting si++

     

     

    Agop´çuğum, sevgilim,

    Cevabın var mı? Yoksa söyle. o da bir cevaptır. Kıvırtma.

     

    {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

    5118.       Abla
    3648 posts
     14 Jul 2013 Sun 10:48 am

    A hen can lean in three days what a dog can learn in five weeks. That is because hens do not try to attract people  -  they are simply greedy.

     

    KANA SPIRAALI

     

    5119.       giz
    61 posts
     14 Jul 2013 Sun 03:47 pm

    çöp arabasını toma sanan eylemci{#emotions_dlg.lol}

    http://www.objektifhaber.com/cop-arabasini-toma-sanan-eylemci-184566-haber/

    5120.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     15 Jul 2013 Mon 02:06 pm

     

    Quoting giz

    çöp arabasını toma sanan eylemci{#emotions_dlg.lol}

    http://www.objektifhaber.com/cop-arabasini-toma-sanan-eylemci-184566-haber/

     

    I have a feeling that it was you Giz. lol

    5121.       giz
    61 posts
     16 Jul 2013 Tue 11:45 pm

    hands{#emotions_dlg.lol}

    5122.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     07 Aug 2013 Wed 12:55 pm

    French woman rents her breasts!!

    A FRENCH woman has posted an online ad offering to breast feed the newborn babies of homosexual couples for $130 a day.

     

    The ad, which appeared on French website e-loue and has been verified by their management, came just weeks after France´s same-sex marriage laws were passed.

     

    It reads: "I am a young mother in perfect health, a trained nurse of 29, and I am renting my breasts to milk-feed infants."

     

    The Paris-based woman promises to feed the infant up to 10 times a day, the Huffington Post reports.

    ...

    A French woman has posted an online ad offering breastfeeding for babies of gay male couples. Picture: Thinkstock

     

    Source: http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/french-nurse-offers-to-breastfeed-babies-of-gay-male-couples/story-fnihp1e3-1226692791674

     

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}



    Edited (8/7/2013) by thehandsom

    5123.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Aug 2013 Mon 06:01 pm

     The biggest pre-natal excitement since the Royal Baby :

    Tian Tian the panda may be expecting twins 

    (She looks concerned!!)

     

    source(s):

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/panda-cub-pictured-relaxing-taipei-2153259

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tian-tian-the-panda-may-be-expecting-twins-8756233.html

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-zoo-panda-tian-tian-pregnant-1-3038079

    ----------------

    Congratulations Tian Tian!!!

    5124.       Abla
    3648 posts
     12 Aug 2013 Mon 07:42 pm

    Quote: thehandsom

    (She looks concerned!!)

    Paint the surroundings of your eyes black the way she has done and see if you look concerned or not.

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    5125.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Aug 2013 Mon 08:14 pm

     

    Quoting Abla

     

    Paint the surroundings of your eyes black the way she has done and see if you look concerned or not.

     

    I think it is all about her hormone levels

    It says :

     

    Panda pregnancy: The indications

     

    Protein...

     

    Hormones The hormone progesterone initially increases once the animal breeds. Then a second rise occurs around the time that the embryo is implanted in the wall of the uterus. Tian Tian’s progesterone levels showed a sharp rise on 15 July, which was confirmed this week.

     

    Nesting ...

     

    Psychology Moodiness is said to be a symptom of pregnancy in giant pandas. Just as Tian Tian was “off her food” when she was ready to mate, the amiable bear, who enjoys playing football, has been observed by keepers to be unusually irritable.

    source : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/edinburgh-zoo-panda-tian-tian-pregnant-but-its-not-black-and-white-8753601.html

     

    ps..I painted my eyes the way you described and I look handsomer

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    5126.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     20 Aug 2013 Tue 01:16 am

    Drive in ‘sex boxes’ to make prostitution safer!!

    ..

    The nine garage-style structures, located in a former industrial zone in the west of the city, have been organised with typically Swiss precision.

    Drivers will have to follow a clearly marked route along which up to 40 prostitutes will be stationed.

    Once they have chosen one of the women and negotiated a fee, they will drive into one of the wooden sheds, which are hung with posters advocating the use of condoms and warning of the risk of Aids.

    The sex boxes are equipped with alarms which the prostitutes can activate if they feel in danger from a client.

    ..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland/10247035/Switzerland-opens-drive-in-sex-boxes-to-make-prostitution-safer.html

    ---

    It looks very little privacy from the picture!!{#emotions_dlg.noway}

    5127.       elenagabriela
    2040 posts
     22 Aug 2013 Thu 07:55 pm

    polyamory and 5 myths about it

     

    Researchers estimate that as many as 5 percent of Americans are currently in relationships involving consensual nonmonogamy — that is, permission to go outside the couple looking for love or sex.

    The boundaries in these relationships are remarkably varied, with some couples negotiating one-off "swinging" or partner-swapping experiences. and others forming stable bonds among three, four or five partners simultaneously. The latter is a version of  polyarmory, relationships in which people have multiple partnerships at once with the full knowledge of all involved.

    Polyamorous people have largely flown under the radar, but that´s beginning to change as psychologists become intrigued by this unusual group. The first annual International Academic Polyamory Conference takes place Feb. 15 in Berkeley, Calif., and ongoing studies are examining everything from how jealousy works in polyamorous relationships to how kids in polyamorous familes fare. Though there´s a lot left to learn, initial findings are busting some myths about how love among many works.

     

     


     

     

    NB.: one of these  person said: I have so much love to offer so I cant be involved just in one relation....

     

     

    if she said so...{#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

     

    5128.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     26 Aug 2013 Mon 10:27 pm

    Edinburgh zoo put on 24-hour alert for Tian Tian


    The UK´s only female giant panda has been placed on 24-hour surveillance following hormone tests that indicate she could be pregnant and about to give birth.
    ..
     Experts suggest she could give birth any time in the next two weeks.

    Zoo staff will be especially watching her for any restless behaviour and bleating, which are the signs of labour that would precede her waters breaking...

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/26/panda-pregnancy-edinburgh-tian-alert

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/edinburgh-zoo-panda-tian-tian-2223705

    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-08-26/timeline-tian-tians-pregnancy/

    ==============

    We all are holding our breath!!

    Our hearts are with you Tian Tian !!!{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

    5129.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     29 Aug 2013 Thu 10:45 am

    Earth life ´may have come from Mars´

    Scientists have long wondered how atoms first came together to make up the three crucial molecular components of living organisms: RNA, DNA and proteins.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765

    ---------------------

    Well we now know we are from Mars. All they have to concantrate now is the origins of women

    5130.       alameda
    3499 posts
     30 Aug 2013 Fri 05:20 am

    Women are from Venus...didn´t you know?

    Quoting thehandsom

    Earth life ´may have come from Mars´

    Scientists have long wondered how atoms first came together to make up the three crucial molecular components of living organisms: RNA, DNA and proteins.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23872765

    ---------------------

    Well we now know we are from Mars. All they have to concantrate now is the origins of women

     

     

    5131.       Abla
    3648 posts
     30 Aug 2013 Fri 06:48 am

    I am from Google Earth.

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    5132.       Abla
    3648 posts
     03 Sep 2013 Tue 02:34 pm

    Microsoft ate our Nokia.

    catwoman liked this message
    5133.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Sep 2013 Fri 03:09 am

    Testicle - eating fish, the Pacu..

     

    Testicle - eating fish, the Pacu, found in Paris with fears it could be coming to the UK ..

    ..

    With the appearance of the piranha, but with teeth that look uncannily human, the pacu usually dines on a feast of insects, decaying plants and fruit that falls into the waters of the Amazon. But it has become more known for reportedly dining on another food: men´s testicles. 

    ..

    Could it be making its way to the UK?..

     

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/testicleeating-fish-the-pacu-found-in-paris-with-fears-it-could-be-coming-to-the-uk-8798118.html

    -----------------

    Well, I dont know you but I am not risking anything..

     



    Edited (9/6/2013) by thehandsom

    5134.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     10 Sep 2013 Tue 11:38 am

     We´ve stopped natural selection.

    ..

    "We stopped natural selection as soon as we started being able to rear 95 - 99% of our babies that are born.

    "We are the only species to have put a halt to natural selection, of its own free will, as it were."

     

    The broadcaster said of the future: "I don´t think we are going to become extinct. 

    ..

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-attenborough-dont-large-families-060753792.html

    -------------------

    {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

    5135.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     12 Sep 2013 Thu 11:47 am

    Testicle Size: Study Suggests Bigger Testes Make Bad Dads

    ..

    The larger the volume of their testes, the less the men were involved in daily parenting activities like changing diapers, said the study by researchers at Emory University in Georgia.

     

    In comparison, men with smaller testes showed more nurturing activity in the brain when shown pictures of their children, and also were more involved in their children´s upbringing, according to surveys answered separately by both the fathers and their female partners.

     

    All the men in the study were aged 21-55 and lived with the biological mothers of their children. Most were married.

     

     

    "I wouldn´t want to say that men with large testes are always bad fathers but our data show a tendency for them to be less involved in things like changing diapers, bathing children, preparing meals, taking them to the doctor and things like that," said lead author James Rilling, an associate professor of anthropology.

    ..

     

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09/10/testicle-size-_n_3900580.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24016988

    ---

    {#emotions_dlg.silenced}

     

    5136.       kazpol
    99 posts
     12 Sep 2013 Thu 05:02 pm

    Kelowna!

    A strangely suspicious user. {#emotions_dlg.ninja}

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    5137.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Oct 2013 Thu 11:45 am

    Hopes fade for Edinburgh Zoo panda cub being born

     

    Experts have warned the chances of a panda cub being born at Edinburgh Zoo are fading – as Tian Tian’s ‘pregnancy’ enters its third month.

    ..

    Staff at the zoo remain optimistic they will see the pitter-patter of tiny paws, but it is still unclear wether Tian Tian is actually pregnant.

     

    Specialists say unsuccessful pregnancies – where the female re-absorbs the foetus – are extremely common.

    ..

     

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/hopes-fade-for-edinburgh-zoo-panda-cub-being-born-1-3121568

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-zoo-keepers-insist-giant-2331612

     

    --------------

    Nothing is worse than fake hopes

    5138.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     09 Oct 2013 Wed 11:01 pm

    gay-o-meter

    Kuwait ‘gay-o-meter’? Clinical screenings to ‘detect’ and ban homosexuals from entry

     


    "However, we will take stricter measures that will help us detect gays, who will be then barred from entering Kuwait or any of the GCC member states,” he added, quoted by a local daily Al Rai.

    He did not indicate what measures - or how physically intrusive - these might be.

     

    http://rt.com/news/homosexuals-kuwait-banned-gays-887/

    -------------------

    hmmm {#emotions_dlg.think}{#emotions_dlg.suspicious}

    5139.       giz
    61 posts
     17 Oct 2013 Thu 05:09 pm

    https://twitter.com/NataliAVAZYAN/status/389148268828975104/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/NataliAVAZYAN/status/388386936726892544/photo/1

     

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    5140.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     18 Oct 2013 Fri 12:42 am

     

     

    This must be Giz

    5141.       giz
    61 posts
     18 Oct 2013 Fri 04:42 am

    5142.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     21 Oct 2013 Mon 01:40 am

    Helal Sex Shop opens in Turkey,

    It says that ´they dont sell things like vibrators, blowup dolls..but they sell creams, massage oils etc..´

    http://t24.com.tr/haber/helal-seks-shop-turkiyede/242237

    -------------

    No comment from me..

    5143.       Kelowna
    375 posts
     23 Oct 2013 Wed 05:53 pm

    Starting a  new fad -I am calling it a turkish doily rug!

    jpg



    Edited (10/23/2013) by Kelowna

    5144.       foka
    597 posts
     30 Oct 2013 Wed 09:08 pm

    Hoca c`mon.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eNKcuBf5pA



    Edited (10/30/2013) by foka [.]

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    5145.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Nov 2013 Fri 11:56 pm

    Map of second languages spoken in London

    Source:

    http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/10/29/map-of-second-languages-spoken-in-london/

     

    This is multiculturalism

    5146.       Kelowna
    375 posts
     02 Nov 2013 Sat 12:27 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Map of second languages spoken in London

    Source:

    http://now-here-this.timeout.com/2013/10/29/map-of-second-languages-spoken-in-london/

     

    This is multiculturalism

    it´s what?????

    notice how they all have to cramp themselves into little areas.

    Is Britain a racist nation? One in three Brits ´admits to being racist´, according to poll

    • Third admitted making comments or being involved in discussions which could be considered racist
    • Almost 40 per cent confessed to using the phrase ‘I’m not a racist, but...´ when discussing race issues
    • Anti-racism group said the poll was ´disappointing´


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151056/Is-Britain-racist-nation-One-Brits-admits-racist-according-poll.html#ixzz2jR4ChXyt
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

     

     

    5147.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Nov 2013 Sat 12:35 pm

     

    Quoting Kelowna

     

    it´s what?????

    notice how they all have to cramp themselves into little areas.

    Is Britain a racist nation? One in three Brits ´admits to being racist´, according to poll

    • Third admitted making comments or being involved in discussions which could be considered racist
    • Almost 40 per cent confessed to using the phrase ‘I’m not a racist, but...´ when discussing race issues
    • Anti-racism group said the poll was ´disappointing´


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151056/Is-Britain-racist-nation-One-Brits-admits-racist-according-poll.html#ixzz2jR4ChXyt
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

     

     

     

    Of course there are racist people everywhere. However, at least they know what racism is and they are able to go back put themselves into category of racism. What they call racism is generically speaking is called patriotism  in our country.. Hence the motto ´we dont have racism in Turkey´

    Ad far as the minorities are concerned, community leaders and the people think they are allowed to live in their own cultural existance, they are allowed to speak their own language, they are allowed to perform their religious duties without being mocked or persecuted and they are kind of greatful for that. 

     

    5148.       Kelowna
    375 posts
     02 Nov 2013 Sat 08:35 pm

    jp better than the sound of music

    5149.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     13 Nov 2013 Wed 08:53 pm

    Arsenal fan loses house in wager against Manchester United fan who staked his car and wife!!

    While most Arsenal supporters lost some pride when Manchester United beat the Gunners on Sunday, one fan lost much much more.

    ..

    It´s claimed that before the game Henry Dhabasani staked his two-room home in a bet with Rashid Yiga that Arsenal would win the game at Old Trafford. Yiga accepted the bet, and put quite a bit on the line himself. Along with his Toyota Premio, he also staked his wife.

    The pair put their bet in writing, which was witnessed by local leaders and fans.

    Dhabasani, who is married to three wives and has five children, reportedly fainted upon the final whistle with the score ending 1-0 to Manchester United.

    On Monday, Manchester United fans "stormed" Dhabasani’s home and threw him and his family out, according to the Observer in Uganda.

    ..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/arsenal-fan-loses-house-in-wager-against-manchester-united-fan-who-staked-his-car-and-wife-8937597.html

    ---

    5150.       giz
    61 posts
     18 Nov 2013 Mon 02:14 pm

    "Mavi huydur bende" #şiirsokakta pic.twitter.com/98MjpAdeiS





    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı


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    5151.       giz
    61 posts
     22 Nov 2013 Fri 05:48 pm

    Beykoz - 1900 ler ferah istanbul simdi nefes alacak yer yok.. ( pic.twitter.com/EpZnWFiHlY





    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı


    5152.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     22 Nov 2013 Fri 10:08 pm

     

    Quoting giz

    Beykoz - 1900 ler ferah istanbul simdi nefes alacak yer yok.. ( pic.twitter.com/EpZnWFiHlY

    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı

     

    Ah... {#emotions_dlg.love}

    5153.       insallah
    1277 posts
     23 Nov 2013 Sat 01:27 pm

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/billy-ray-harris--homeless-man-in-kansas-city--missouri--returns-diamond-engagement-ring-to-sarah-darling-164608860.html#NhgF8r3

     

    Ahh still some good people in the world {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

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    5154.       giz
    61 posts
     30 Nov 2013 Sat 12:51 am

    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı



    Edited (11/30/2013) by giz

    5155.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Nov 2013 Sat 01:24 am

    http://ulanhepinizoradaydinizbe.tumblr.com/

    Our republic´s history in pictures

     

    5156.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     01 Dec 2013 Sun 08:04 pm

    Amazon reports record breaking ´Black Friday´


    Amazon said customers ordered four million items on "Black Friday" the highest in its 15 year history.

    ..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10485833/Amazon-reports-record-breaking-Black-Friday.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25150109

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)

    ------------------

    This years Black Friday sales will go over 60 billion $.

    Only 45 countries budgets are over 60 billion.

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_budgets_by_country)

    5157.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     02 Dec 2013 Mon 05:50 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    Amazon reports record breaking ´Black Friday´


    Amazon said customers ordered four million items on "Black Friday" the highest in its 15 year history.

    ..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10485833/Amazon-reports-record-breaking-Black-Friday.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25150109

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)

    ------------------

    This years Black Friday sales will go over 60 billion $.

    Only 45 countries budgets are over 60 billion.

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_budgets_by_country)

     

    this is very sad

    5158.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     04 Dec 2013 Wed 10:58 am

    Ataturk´s newspaper ´Minber´ (it was only a short period, during 1918 November-December)

    What this says about Armenians and the what happened to Armenians are very interesting. I wish someone is able to translate this)

    http://www.taraf.com.tr/taner-akcam/makale-m-kemal-ve-2015.htm

    5159.       giz
    61 posts
     04 Dec 2013 Wed 10:22 pm

    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı

    5160.       giz
    61 posts
     04 Dec 2013 Wed 10:24 pm

    bu kadar tadımlık istanbul fotoğrafı yeter.. yetmez diyenler için..https://twitter.com/NataliAVAZYAN

    buradan takip edebilirler.. şahane bir arşiv.. şahane fotoğraflar.{#emotions_dlg.yes}

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    5161.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     05 Dec 2013 Thu 01:02 am

     

    Quoting giz

    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı

     

    Kanlica oldugunu anlamistim

    5162.       Abla
    3648 posts
     14 Dec 2013 Sat 11:20 pm

    Kuva: Finnish language 101 for foreigners

     

    Agglutinativity.

    5163.       kazpol
    99 posts
     27 Dec 2013 Fri 04:59 pm

    Nice setting of the site. cheering and calming at the same time.

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    5164.       kazpol
    99 posts
     09 Jan 2014 Thu 05:11 am

    Corruption in the Turkish government. Many heads fell in the police depts of all provinces. 

    5165.       Nadya.
    26 posts
     14 Jan 2014 Tue 10:26 pm

    This...

    Photo: Where can i find this ?? <img src='/static/images/smileys//razz.gif'>

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    5166.       alameda
    3499 posts
     15 Jan 2014 Wed 06:17 am

    Beautiful, I wonder if the humidity is problematic? Where I am, close to the water, it is. 

    Quoting thehandsom

     

     

    Kanlica oldugunu anlamistim

     

     

    5167.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     19 Jan 2014 Sun 12:51 am

    UKIP councillor blames storms and floods on gay marriage

    In the letter to the Henley Standard he wrote: "The scriptures make it abundantly clear that a Christian nation that abandons its faith and acts contrary to the Gospel (and in naked breach of a coronation oath) will be beset by natural disasters such as storms, disease, pestilence and war."

    He added: "I wrote to David Cameron in April 2012 to warn him that disasters would accompany the passage of his same-sex marriage bill.

    ..

    source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

    {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    5168.       kazpol
    99 posts
     24 Jan 2014 Fri 08:07 am

     

    Quoting thehandsom

    UKIP councillor blames storms and floods on gay marriage

    In the letter to the Henley Standard he wrote: "The scriptures make it abundantly clear that a Christian nation that abandons its faith and acts contrary to the Gospel (and in naked breach of a coronation oath) will be beset by natural disasters such as storms, disease, pestilence and war."

    He added: "I wrote to David Cameron in April 2012 to warn him that disasters would accompany the passage of his same-sex marriage bill.

    ..

    source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

    {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

     

    Agree with Silvester. 

    It happent in the past. Noah´s flood.

    He misses one point though, the current tendencies are unavoidable. No one can stop the world´s progress. No politician no religion can stop it. 

    It really doesnt matter. What matters is that we should be responsible for our own selves. I do good, you do good, they do good without blaming each other.

     

    5169.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     24 Jan 2014 Fri 10:38 am

     

    Quoting kazpol

     

     

    Agree with Silvester. 

    It happent in the past. Noah´s flood.

    He misses one point though, the current tendencies are unavoidable. No one can stop the world´s progress. No politician no religion can stop it. 

    It really doesnt matter. What matters is that we should be responsible for our own selves. I do good, you do good, they do good without blaming each other.

     

     

    Serious? {#emotions_dlg.wtf}

    5170.       gokuyum
    5050 posts
     26 Jan 2014 Sun 01:39 pm

    My beard growed again

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    5171.       kazpol
    99 posts
     27 Jan 2014 Mon 05:34 am

     

    Quoting gokuyum

    My beard growed again

     

    Difficult to resist as a teacher. 

    My beard has grown again.

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    5172.       giz
    61 posts
     29 Jan 2014 Wed 10:33 pm

    hadi buranın neresi olduğunu da bil hands {#emotions_dlg.shy}

    5173.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     30 Jan 2014 Thu 12:35 pm

     

    Quoting giz

    hadi buranın neresi olduğunu da bil hands {#emotions_dlg.shy}

     

    Well..

    This does not look like a view from Bosphorous.

    It has to be from Halic/Golden Horn.

    Eyup Sultan?

     

    5174.       giz
    61 posts
     01 Feb 2014 Sat 01:36 am

    kağıthane hands.. şimdiki halini yanına koyup bu canım  şehre verdiğimiz tahribatı tescilleyecek değilim..

    gece gece okudum siz de okuyun..

     

    http://blog.radikal.com.tr/Sayfa/yetmez-ama-evet-dedim-pisman-miyim-46877

    5175.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Feb 2014 Sun 01:41 pm

     

    Quoting giz

    kağıthane hands.. şimdiki halini yanına koyup bu canım  şehre verdiğimiz tahribatı tescilleyecek değilim..

    gece gece okudum siz de okuyun..

     

    http://blog.radikal.com.tr/Sayfa/yetmez-ama-evet-dedim-pisman-miyim-46877

     

    See, I dont know that area. But at least I guessed it is not a view from Bosphorus.

    5176.       foka
    597 posts
     15 Feb 2014 Sat 08:36 pm

    5177.       Nadya.
    26 posts
     16 Feb 2014 Sun 08:32 pm

    .



    Edited (2/17/2014) by Nadya.
    Edited (12/13/2018) by Nadya.

    5178.       giz
    61 posts
     21 Feb 2014 Fri 02:53 pm

    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı

    Bu rezaletlerin fatura edilebileceği yabancı ve gizli bir odak yok, tek neden kendi kültürsüzlüğümüz.



    Edited (2/21/2014) by giz

    5179.       giz
    61 posts
     01 Mar 2014 Sat 02:34 pm

    Gömülü resim için kalıcı bağlantı

    5180.       giz
    61 posts
     01 Mar 2014 Sat 02:37 pm

    robin hood tayyip   

    bir vakitler yolsuzluk hırsızlık yapanları iktidardan indirecek kadar haysiyetimiz vardı.. bu ak partiyle nasıl ar damarımız çatladıysa artık insan hayret bile edemiyor.. eyvahlar olsun

    5181.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     02 Mar 2014 Sun 03:01 pm

     

    Quoting giz

    robin hood tayyip   

    bir vakitler yolsuzluk hırsızlık yapanları iktidardan indirecek kadar haysiyetimiz vardı.. bu ak partiyle nasıl ar damarımız çatladıysa artık insan hayret bile edemiyor.. eyvahlar olsun

     

    I think AKP will come out as a successful party from the coming elections despite everything.

    It looks like the people, or people in generic, who vote for AKP do not like politics being shaped by other sources..

    5182.       giz
    61 posts
     03 Mar 2014 Mon 11:07 am

    önce şunu okuyun  http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/25929546.asp

    sonra da şunu http://www.internethaber.com/ulkemizde-ki-ahlak-cokuntusu-14798y.htm

    yetsin artık ya!!

    5183.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     06 Mar 2014 Thu 01:39 am

    Abla is back

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    5184.       elenagabriela
    2040 posts
     06 Mar 2014 Thu 07:51 am

    Hoşgeldin Abla{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

    5185.       Abla
    3648 posts
     06 Mar 2014 Thu 08:27 pm

    Hoşbulduk hemen işe başladım varlığım yararlı olsun diye.

    5186.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     11 Mar 2014 Tue 10:26 am

    Berkin Elvan, who has been in a coma since June 2013 after being struck in the head by a gas canister during a police crackdown on protesters, died March 11, his family announced via Twitter.

    “To our people: We lost our son Berkin Elvan at 7 a.m. in the morning. Condolences to us all,” Elvan´s parents said in the message.

    The young teenager, the eighth person to be killed in the Gezi Park protests, went into a coma after sustaining a head injury from a gas canister as he went to buy bread during a police crackdown in Istanbul’s Okmeydanı neighborhood last June. Elvan has since become one of the prime symbols violence faced by protesters throughout the nationwide Gezi demonstrations.

    He had only turned 15 in January while still in a coma..

    Source:

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/15-year-old-gezi-victim-berkin-elvan-dies-after-269-days-in-coma-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=63429&NewsCatID=341

    ----------------------------

    Forgive us boy..

    5187.       catwoman
    8933 posts
     11 Mar 2014 Tue 11:57 am

    so sad how can this be forgiven?

    5188.       giz
    61 posts
     21 Mar 2014 Fri 02:33 pm

    newroz piroz be!

    nevruz kutlu olsun!

    happy newroz!

     

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    5189.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Apr 2014 Thu 06:56 pm

    Twitter is back!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26873603

    I think people who use twitter in Turkey, managed to reach it despite the ban.

    (But AKP supporters  did not care if it was banned or not. Mainly they are not using it anyway )

    5190.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     03 Apr 2014 Thu 07:00 pm

    Girl stuck in Dover storm drain retrieving phone

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-26870738

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    5191.       giz
    61 posts
     02 May 2014 Fri 03:18 pm

    http://www.mansethaber.com/basbakanin-idam-cikisi/haber/62469

     

    vayy vayy..tayyip de yetsin artık ya dedi .. işin acı tarafı bu suçların cezasının halihazırda müebbet hapis olduğunundan bile bihaber..kendi yarattığı bataklığın sivrisineklerini tek tek öldürmeğe özeniyor.. bakalım cellat yetiştirebilecek mi..

     

    5192.       thehandsom
    7403 posts
     27 Jun 2014 Fri 08:33 am

    Survey: Racists And Conservatives Have A Low IQ. Surprise, Surprise!

     

     http://www.liberalamerica.org/2013/11/24/survey-says-low-iq-leads-racism-extreme-conservatism/ 

    {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} 

    5193.       foka
    597 posts
     16 Aug 2014 Sat 10:34 pm

     http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/08/12/spc-inside-middle-east-dervishes.cnn.html



    Edited (8/16/2014) by foka [.]

    5194.       teaschip
    3870 posts
     29 Sep 2014 Mon 10:54 pm

    Almost all the turkish guys in this class appear to be a civil engineer.  What the heck are you building over there, the Taj Mahal? {#emotions_dlg.suspicious}

    5195.       elenagabriela
    2040 posts
     30 Sep 2014 Tue 12:11 pm

    or, maybe, they are a source of inspiration...{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

    5196.       emjay
    9 posts
     11 Mar 2015 Wed 05:09 am

    Entire Neighbourhood Secretly Learns Sign Language To Surprise Deaf Neighbor

     

    A pleasant surprise for Muharrem, a deaf man living in Istanbul Cool

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    5197.       emjay
    9 posts
     24 Mar 2015 Tue 09:22 am

    Passing of Mr Lee Kuan Yew, founding Prime Minister of Singapore

    Image result for lee kuan yew

    Singapore´s first Prime Minister passed away at 3.18am on Monday, Mar 23. Tributes have poured in from local politicians, world leaders, companies and other institutions.

    A period of national mourning from 23-29 March is currently being observed in Singapore. 

     

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/live-updates-passing-of/1736666.html

    http://www.rememberingleekuanyew.sg/

     

    Gun carriage procession of Mr Lee:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QGswq4A5jM



    Edited (3/26/2015) by emjay

    5198.       kazpol
    99 posts
     14 Sep 2018 Fri 05:04 am

    Totalitarian EU is playing old Stalin games. It has been now decades people been and are terrorized into political correctness. People even can´t fart without checking if it would possibly offend anyone at the other end of street. Thought police is set up to check/chase posts with unfit memes or cartoons.

    Idiots in EU under the lead of Donald Tusk (Soros/Merkel arse kisser) are now going to punish Hngary. Poland will back up Hungary. It is high time to leave communist union.

    A big muscly woman with a mind of 12 year old girl threw another tantrum at US Open and shameless or brainless spectators cheered the wrong person and booed down a true star of the game Naomi Osaka.

    Ah, btw, the author of the cartoon had to delete his social media accounts due to the death threats. Believe it or not we are bound to live among/with the genration of morons.

    I would add that cartoon here but this site doesn´t offer such options. {#emotions_dlg.rolleyes} Does it?

     

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    5199.       kazpol
    99 posts
     14 Sep 2018 Fri 05:39 am

    A college professor of sociology shot himself in protest of Donald Trump. {#emotions_dlg.lol} Modern Education is in big shit. It has been infested with moronism (product of socialism) for decades. Therefore we have to protect ourselves from contageous insanity coming from vicious academia these days. 

    Another interesting news America turns all sorts of criminals/ porn stars and other dogs into heros {#emotions_dlg.shy} They write books and get celebrated by the Left. So we get left with a society with values upside down.

     

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    5200.       kazpol
    99 posts
     17 Oct 2018 Wed 07:16 am

    About 3000 Hondurans marching to the borders of USA. Organized and paid by Soros agents.

    F..ng Merkel is fusing with Greens. One must wonder why this witch has been sitting for so long on the necks of all Europeans? 

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