Story of the pictures:
Salee Allawe Iraqi War Victim
Salee Allawe, 9, an Iraqi victim of US air strikes photographed in Greenville, South Carolina where she received medical treatment thanks to Cole Miller and his group No More Victims. They seek to provide medical care to children injured by the US military. She traveled with her father Hussein Allawe and was cared for by local volunteers and treated at the Shriners Hospital. Salle's story is as follows: On November 7, 2006 in Hasswa, Iraq: Salee Allawe, a nine-year-old girl, was playing hopscotch outside her home with her brother, cousin and some friends when US mlitary jets fired three missiles, apparently at passenger vehicles. One missile landed where the children were playing, killing her brother and cousin and taking both of Salee's legs.
here are the pictures:
Nice to see there are people to help with such a tragedy...but my wish is that these people would never have to go thru this in the first place. It just seems like a small consolation.
Actually there was one more thing:
It was Jordan (Katie Price)
The caption goes like :
Model Katie Price, AKA Jordan, flashes a nipple at her London book launch today but also shows the horrendous scarring left by many many breast operations. The scar is surrounded by horrible stitch marks making her look more like the bride of frankenstein than a glamour puss..
Another war coming soon?
Robert Fisk Hezbollah chief threatens Israel Speaking to the crowds of mourners via a giant video screen, Nasrallah blamed Israel for his death and said its war against the Jewish state was not over.
"Zionists, if you want this sort of open war, then let the whole world hear, so be it!" he declared.
"Even once someone has managed to escape the traffickers' trap, British campaigners say authorities are far more concerned about their status as an illegal immigrant, than as a trafficked person.
Penny, for example - repeatedly imprisoned for not having the right paperwork - is convinced the man who trafficked her is still plying his trade, unmolested by the authorities. "
A senior militant from the Islamic Jihad movement is among at least seven people killed in an explosion in the Gaza Strip, which injured more than 40.
And some addition to child/ civilan death toll:
The wife and two of Mr Fayed's children were killed in the blast, Palestinian medics said.
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Danish Muhammad cartoon reprinted Danish newspapers have reprinted one of several caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad which sparked violent protests across the Muslim world in 2005.
They say they wanted to show their commitment to freedom of speech after an alleged plot to kill one of the cartoonists behind the drawings.
"We don't have much. What we have in excess is women. So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands."
MAO ZEDONG
China's former leader, attempting to barter the country's women during trade discussions with the U.S. in 1973, according to a document released Thursday by the State Department's historian office.
Kosova is being independent and known by EU...
So what about KKTC?
The whole cypus issue is still a huge mystry to me.
I sincerely believe Turkey had right to invade in 1974 and this right came from the Treaty of Guarantee.
But somehow Turkey could not persuade anybody..
I have it all figured out now...if I quit going to work I will not be exposed to all the sickness that is spread by my co-workers and will be healthy enough to stay in TC!! God I am brilliant!!!
It is very sad I don't think Cuba will ever be the same again. Castro was a good leader and proved that communism CAN work in the right envionment - it was a great tribute to Che Guavara. I give it 5 years before we see it corrupted by the US again - drugs, prostitution, McDonalds on every corner
It is very sad I don't think Cuba will ever be the same again. Castro was a good leader and proved that communism CAN work in the right envionment - it was a great tribute to Che Guavara. I give it 5 years before we see it corrupted by the US again - drugs, prostitution, McDonalds on every corner
I agree..I am quite sad too.
He was a great leader.
He showed the entire world what a 'real independence for a country' might be.
Please tell me you were being sarcastic here Aenigma...
Not at all. I think of Cuba as my second home and know that the majority of Cubans have been very happy living under Castro's rule. They have 98% literacy and a health care system that is one of the best in the world. They are also one of the leading manufacturers of pharmaceuticals. While their economy is by no means perfect in recent years, it is vastly better for the average Cuban than under it's previous regime. Why are you so shocked?
I am shocked because, having been brought up in a communistic country, I would never believe somebody being astonished by that system. You mentioned a great tribute to CheGuevara. If it is your policy to praise mass murderers, slaughterers of children and women, a person glorifying hate, a person responsible for numerous people being tortured. In a book by Humberto Fontova "Fidel; Hollywood´s Favorite Tyrant" El Commendante is depicted as a coward and a baby killer. If he's one of your role-models then I'm already scared of you! I know it's kind of trendy to wear Che Guevara t-shirts and thinking he was a great revolutionary. Right. So was Stalin and Hitler.
A land of welfare in Cuba? Sure. First of all, the health policy. Do you know how they dealt with HIV? Then enforced compulsory tests and imprisoned/put to death those tested positive. Now the Cubans are healthy As for being happy with the regime...well..nobody in communistic countries dared to claim otherwise. Even though the Cubans are victims of a touristic apertheid, they don't complain. And neither do the tourists - they see great beaches, happy waiters, great food and think...Geezz..is that heaven or what? Behind the touristic areas, the world suddenly stops being so beautiful. But, hey! Who cares? A holiday in Cuba is wonderful so Cuba must be wonderful too!
Aenigma, spend some time living in a world which deprives you of your basic rights like the freedom of speech and then praise it.
Life expectancy at birth: male 75.11; female: 79.85 (US: 75.02; 80.82).
Infant mortality rate: 6.22 deaths per 1,000 live births (US: 6.43).
HIV/Aids adult prevalence rate: < 0.1 per cent (US: 0.6 per cent).
HIV/Aids deaths per 100,000 per year: 4.4 (US: 5.4).
Physicians per 1,000 population: 5.91 (US: 2.56).
Hospital beds per 10,000 population: 49 (US: 33).
Per capita GDP: $3,649 (US: $39,901) .
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I think above shows how Castro has been successful about the healthcare.
Note that they have ACHIEVED those results with "Per capita GDP: $3,649"
Dear Daydreamer. Castro always refused to call himself a communist - just Cubanist. He did not ban religion or impose many of the restrictions that other communist countries enforced.
Perhaps they should return to the US Mafia controlled Cuba - where apartheid was stricter than South Africa and rich Americans raped it's resources.
PS Dont assume to know me, or my knowledge of Cuba (which was not based on chatting to a few waiters whilst lazing on the beach).
Fantastic! I then believe the whole world should take measures to keep up with Fidel's policy. Why hasn't it happened yet? Could it be that great minds are never appreciated?
I wish we never brought down communism. It must have been a perfect system but the stupid Poles, Czechosklovakians, Yugoslavians and other just couldn't take it...You know, I remember that the health care in Poland during communism was great. Free of charge, unlimited coverage. People were earning quite a lot, housing was state-credited so basically you would get a flat for free. And yet people didn't like it...Maybe they weren't as smart as the Brits and Americans who gave us to uncle Stalin in Yalta. Know what? You could have kept that goodness for yourselves. Then you'd have a life of dreams as it is in Cuba
PS Dont assume to know me, or my knowledge of Cuba (which was not based on chatting to a few waiters whilst lazing on the beach).
I never said your opinions were based on chatting to waiters, I gave it as a general example of people's idea about Cuba. Actually, you might even be a Cuban refugee - I would have no knowledge about it. I am nevertheless shocked that an educated person as yourself supports mass murderers and calls dictators saviours.
Fantastic! I then believe the whole world should take measures to keep up with Fidel's policy.
Haha
I would agree with above:
Some more facts about cuba:
Cuba’s National Institute for Economic Research (INIE) and the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) makes an extremely favourable assessment of social and economic development in Cuba in recent years. Until 1989, Cuba’s social policy led to very significant advances in education, health care, social security, employment and distribution. The collapse of the socialist bloc, as well as other internal and external factors, caused a severe crisis that peaked in 1993, dealing a blow to almost all the country’s social indicators
Cuba is an ‘interesting case’ of ‘growth with justice, as it has dealt simultaneously with economic and social problems’, using an integral development model which, over the past four decades, has increased social welfare and equity, despite the collapse of the socialist bloc, the underlying crisis and external restrictions Cuban model are of great use in the international consideration of the opportunities for achieving productive development with equity’
Please could you enlighten me about the "mass murder". Are you talking about the Bay of Pigs?
With pleasure, in mid '60s Che and Fidel were setting up concentration camps for anti-socialists and juvenile delinquents, needles to say, homosexuals and artists were among them too - the whole unnecessary element of society (and they weren't incarcerated in order to be treated). The death rate there was about 50%
A rough estimate accredits Che Guevara with 700 to 1700 people slaughtered either directly or at his command. "Hate is an element of fight (...) transcends natural human limits (...)and turns him into a ruthless killing machine.
In 1965 he was fighting against imperialism in Kenia and Tanzania and again, his trail was one of blood and terror. Finally Bolivian peasants gave him away to the police and they ended the scruffy life of this monster.
That's for mass murders - concentration camps are enough for Fidel, but Che deserved his own piece
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Also - do you think the apartheid US rule was better?
I don't think whatever Americans do is better. If they weren't so influential, their interference with the world's politics would be considered tyranny and they'd be judged for crimes against humanity as well.
It is very sad I don't think Cuba will ever be the same again. Castro was a good leader and proved that communism CAN work in the right envionment - it was a great tribute to Che Guavara. I give it 5 years before we see it corrupted by the US again - drugs, prostitution, McDonalds on every corner
In some respects I agree but others I don't. Yes, as schooling and medical systems are second to none. But Cuba is a country bathed in poverty where a waiter can earn as much money as a physician. They still have to queue for basic food and still have ration books. The buidings are crumbling and drugs are rife as is prostitution. Where the poor hunt street cats for a decent meal.
Cuba has a repressive regime, Cuban's can not leave their country unless they are on tour with music or acrobat or part of a circus shows. The tour guides are monitored for what they say to their guests. Sadly many children of the rich and successful were sent to Florida when Castor came to power in 1959, never to see their families again.
But also, I do not agree that America should get their hands on Cuba, but a democratic government now be sought, not replace Castro with Rafael. But we all know why Cuba is so interesting to America - it has oil, suprisingly enough.
One word on Che, he did a lot of good work for lepers and was one of the first Doctors to actually touch a leper.
A rough estimate accredits Che Guevara with 700 to 1700 people slaughtered either directly or at his command. "Hate is an element of fight (...) transcends natural human limits (...)and turns him into a ruthless killing machine.
In 1965 he was fighting against imperialism in Kenia and Tanzania and again, his trail was one of blood and terror. Finally Bolivian peasants gave him away to the police and they ended the scruffy life of this monster.
That's for mass murders - concentration camps are enough for Fidel, but Che deserved his own piece
Come on! You can't leave me in the middle of an argument for a whole week ya! What if Daydreamer the Nice will renew her Dead Poets' Society membership?
Come on! You can't leave me in the middle of an argument for a whole week ya! What if Daydreamer the Nice will renew her Dead Poets' Society membership?
Oh yes, apart from the absolutely free education and health system, we had camps in NRD, Bulgaria and Artek (to all those NOT from the Soviet Block, Artek was an international scout camp in USSR). I remember my mom buying me dairy products and baby shoes using a Child's Book of Medical Health, all children wearing the same clothes, standing 3 days in a queue to buy a colour TV or Cuban oranges before Christmas. Yes, those were the days. My father was almost expelled from a Technical University for not wanting to become a Party member (I'm not sure what's it like in English but the Party is Polish United Labour Party - the only one there was). We didn't have to worry about elections - everything was known beforehand and the support for the Party was always 99%...great times...
Maybe it was different in Croatia, but Poland is much better now than before. Sure, the transformation period was and still is tough, but we're getting better and better and I am sure it'll be the same in Croatia, just give it some time
Oh yes, apart from the absolutely free education and health system, we had camps in NRD, Bulgaria and Artek (to all those NOT from the Soviet Block, Artek was an international scout camp in USSR). I remember my mom buying me dairy products and baby shoes using a Child's Book of Medical Health, all children wearing the same clothes, standing 3 days in a queue to buy a colour TV or Cuban oranges before Christmas. Yes, those were the days. My father was almost expelled from a Technical University for not wanting to become a Party member (I'm not sure what's it like in English but the Party is Polish United Labour Party - the only one there was). We didn't have to worry about elections - everything was known beforehand and the support for the Party was always 99%...great times...
Maybe it was different in Croatia, but Poland is much better now than before. Sure, the transformation period was and still is tough, but we're getting better and better and I am sure it'll be the same in Croatia, just give it some time
Sure it was different in Croatia! I remember when my parents built a house, bought a car..like a very young couple, remember my mom buying me everything I wished,we went to trip every summer, every winter...
Now young couples living in rent apartments, but their earnings(if they have a job) are barely covering rents! And what about overhead expenses, food, clothes...?
Now they have to decide will they buy some food for their children or some clothes...no need to list other.
I am happy now for finding a good job..but big number of my family and friends are not! And if this is transformation period, it last to long, all one generation is living trough it..I only hope my children are not gonna be ones to fell it too.
So, don't you think that if it hadn't been for years of ruining your country's economy by the communists, you might be living like your Italian or Greek neighbours? The thing is, communist countries (except for China which has a free market) don't let their economy develop. It seemed better then, but it wouldn't last forever. I'm sure you experienced inflation etc...
Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".
I first saw his picture whan I was 15 (I think).
(it was with the red background)
And There was a turkish writing underneath something like 'let the death come where ever it comes from .....then we will welcome to death'.
The first thing I remember thinking of him was 'wow what a heroic looking guy'
Later on, when I learnt more about him, there was no doubt in my mind:'He was going to be one my heros'.
And he is a hero to me. Most romantic one of all my heros.
Daydream, you have no idea what you are talking about him.
You just read something about him and that is all..
You should read more about a subject before jumping into ignorant-primitive conclusions..
Anyway
Some passages from 'gergous' George galloway about him:
Ernesto “Che†Guevara Lynch, who was murdered by United States agents under orders from Washington 40 years ago, is the face of global rebellion.
He inspires all the more intensely since he could have lived a prosperous bourgeois life as an Argentine dentist. Instead, and despite asthma, he chose a life of action, a motorcycle diarist, a comandante in a triumphant Cuban revolutionary army, a guerrilla leader in the Congo, a martyr in the mountain gulleys of Bolivia.
By the time Che Guevara met Fidel Castro a year later he was a rebel. After, he was a revolutionary. Guevara had absolutely no military background and signed on with Fidel as the rebel “army’s†doctor. In the mountains of eastern Cuba in the late 1950s he became a military leader and a strategist of revolutionary warfare of the first order. It was an old-fashioned ethos: lead your men (and women) from the front and don’t ask them to do anything you aren’t prepared to do with them.
Those who would traduce Che, Fidel and the Cuban revolutionaries must say what Cuba would be like now if that dictatorship had held on – Haiti, the most hellish place in the Western hemisphere is literally not far from Cuba, but metaphorically in a different universe.
Che, in particular, defies the right-wing stereotype of the ice-cold, cunning revolutionist. He said that ‘the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality.’
Even as Cuba, in the grip of the US’s embargo, looked to the Soviet Union for support, Che was prepared to criticise the bureaucratism he saw in Moscow.
Instead of settling down in Havana, he set out to spread revolution in Congo, where the great Patrice Lumumba had been murdered in a UN-supported coup. Nelson Mandela paid tribute to the Cuban role in Africa’s liberation struggle. ‘On his release from prison he went to Cuba, rather than any other capital in the world, beneath an illumination of Che’s image, Mandela lifted his hands aloft and said: ‘See how far we slaves have come!’‘
Even the coldest of latter-day Cold Warriors must have been moved by the recent story that a Cuban medical team last year saved the sight of Mario Teran, the Bolivian sergeant who executed Che.
Which leaves the liberals, who say that they too, as Che put it, ‘. . . tremble with indignation at every injustice,’
She said she had been there when Guevara had died. She said she was 19 at the time. Then she cast a look around her and said, ‘Look at us. Nothing has changed since then. El Commandante came too soon. We were ignorant and did not understand him… We abandoned him… and here we are just as we were before he came, or maybe even worse.’ “
If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.
At the risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love.
I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.
It is not a matter of wishing success to the victim of aggression, but of sharing his fate; one must accompany him to his death or to victory.
Many will call me an adventurer - and that I am, only one of a different sort: one of those who risks his skin to prove his platitudes.
There is no other definition of socialism valid for us than that of the abolition of the exploitation of man by man.
I would rather die standing up, then live life on my knees.
(And That is what he said before he died)
I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.
Daydreams?
is any of your heros can die the way he died?
Well mine did!!
As I promised to daydreamer About El comandate:
Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".
I first saw his picture whan I was 15 (I think).
(it was with the red background)
And There was a turkish writing underneath something like 'let the death come where ever it comes from .....then we will welcome to death'.
The first thing I remember thinking of him was 'wow what a heroic looking guy'
Later on, when I learnt more about him, there was no doubt in my mind:'He was going to be one my heros'.
And he is a hero to me. Most romantic one of all my heros.
Daydream, you have no idea what you are talking about him.
You just read something about him and that is all..
You should read more about a subject before jumping into ignorant-primitive conclusions..
Anyway
Some passages from 'gergous' George galloway about him:
Ernesto “Che†Guevara Lynch, who was murdered by United States agents under orders from Washington 40 years ago, is the face of global rebellion.
He inspires all the more intensely since he could have lived a prosperous bourgeois life as an Argentine dentist. Instead, and despite asthma, he chose a life of action, a motorcycle diarist, a comandante in a triumphant Cuban revolutionary army, a guerrilla leader in the Congo, a martyr in the mountain gulleys of Bolivia.
By the time Che Guevara met Fidel Castro a year later he was a rebel. After, he was a revolutionary. Guevara had absolutely no military background and signed on with Fidel as the rebel “army’s†doctor. In the mountains of eastern Cuba in the late 1950s he became a military leader and a strategist of revolutionary warfare of the first order. It was an old-fashioned ethos: lead your men (and women) from the front and don’t ask them to do anything you aren’t prepared to do with them.
Those who would traduce Che, Fidel and the Cuban revolutionaries must say what Cuba would be like now if that dictatorship had held on – Haiti, the most hellish place in the Western hemisphere is literally not far from Cuba, but metaphorically in a different universe.
Che, in particular, defies the right-wing stereotype of the ice-cold, cunning revolutionist. He said that ‘the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality.’
Even as Cuba, in the grip of the US’s embargo, looked to the Soviet Union for support, Che was prepared to criticise the bureaucratism he saw in Moscow.
Instead of settling down in Havana, he set out to spread revolution in Congo, where the great Patrice Lumumba had been murdered in a UN-supported coup. Nelson Mandela paid tribute to the Cuban role in Africa’s liberation struggle. ‘On his release from prison he went to Cuba, rather than any other capital in the world, beneath an illumination of Che’s image, Mandela lifted his hands aloft and said: ‘See how far we slaves have come!’‘
Even the coldest of latter-day Cold Warriors must have been moved by the recent story that a Cuban medical team last year saved the sight of Mario Teran, the Bolivian sergeant who executed Che.
Which leaves the liberals, who say that they too, as Che put it, ‘. . . tremble with indignation at every injustice,’
She said she had been there when Guevara had died. She said she was 19 at the time. Then she cast a look around her and said, ‘Look at us. Nothing has changed since then. El Commandante came too soon. We were ignorant and did not understand him… We abandoned him… and here we are just as we were before he came, or maybe even worse.’ “
If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.
At the risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love.
I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.
It is not a matter of wishing success to the victim of aggression, but of sharing his fate; one must accompany him to his death or to victory.
Many will call me an adventurer - and that I am, only one of a different sort: one of those who risks his skin to prove his platitudes.
There is no other definition of socialism valid for us than that of the abolition of the exploitation of man by man.
I would rather die standing up, then live life on my knees.
(And That is what he said before he died)
I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.
Daydreams?
is any of your heros can die the way he died?
Well mine did!!
Sorry, I covered this wonderful post, so re-posted Would recommend anyone interested to watch The Motorcycle Diaries - beautiful film.
So, don't you think that if it hadn't been for years of ruining your country's economy by the communists, you might be living like your Italian or Greek neighbours? The thing is, communist countries (except for China which has a free market) don't let their economy develop. It seemed better then, but it wouldn't last forever. I'm sure you experienced inflation etc...
Sure it was inflation, we are not in paradise, but it lasted less than this transformation period. Anyway...sometimes I'm a bit nostalgic.And about now what ever we call it, hope it's gonna pass soon.
Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".
Thehandsom, feel free to admire whoever you want, but he is as much of a hero as Adolf Hitler is. There are worldwide organizations praising the latter although he hasn't become as commercialised a symbol as Che Guevara did. I recall a saying that even killing one person shows there's something wrong with you. If you think the pool of blood Che Guevara is responsible of still makes him your romantic (sic!) hero - I'm speechless. I have read his biography so it's not really that I know nothing about him. Here's something I found online - a bit lengthy but being such a fan, you may want to give it some time:
"No man is without some redeeming qualities. In the case of Che Guevara, those qualities may help us to measure the gulf that separates reality from myth. His honesty (well, partial honesty) meant that he left written testimony of his cruelties, including the really ugly, though not the ugliest, stuff. His courage—what Castro described as “his way, in every difficult and dangerous moment, of doing the most difficult and dangerous thingâ€â€”meant that he did not live to take full responsibility for Cuba’s hell. Myth can tell you as much about an era as truth. And so it is that thanks to Che’s own testimonials to his thoughts and his deeds, and thanks also to his premature departure, we may know exactly how deluded so many of our contemporaries are about so much.
Guevara might have been enamored of his own death, but he was much more enamored of other people’s deaths. In April 1967, speaking from experience, he summed up his homicidal idea of justice in his “Message to the Tricontinentalâ€: “hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.†His earlier writings are also peppered with this rhetorical and ideological violence. Although his former girlfriend Chichina Ferreyra doubts that the original version of the diaries of his motorcycle trip contains the observation that “I feel my nostrils dilate savoring the acrid smell of gunpowder and blood of the enemy,†Guevara did share with Granado at that very young age this exclamation: “Revolution without firing a shot? You’re crazy.†At other times the young bohemian seemed unable to distinguish between the levity of death as a spectacle and the tragedy of a revolution’s victims. In a letter to his mother in 1954, written in Guatemala, where he witnessed the overthrow of the revolutionary government of Jacobo Arbenz, he wrote: “It was all a lot of fun, what with the bombs, speeches, and other distractions to break the monotony I was living in.â€
Guevara’s disposition when he traveled with Castro from Mexico to Cuba aboard the Granma is captured in a phrase in a letter to his wife that he penned on January 28, 1957, not long after disembarking, which was published in her book Ernesto: A Memoir of Che Guevara in Sierra Maestra: “Here in the Cuban jungle, alive and bloodthirsty.†This mentality had been reinforced by his conviction that Arbenz had lost power because he had failed to execute his potential enemies. An earlier letter to his former girlfriend Tita Infante had observed that “if there had been some executions, the government would have maintained the capacity to return the blows.†It is hardly a surprise that during the armed struggle against Batista, and then after the triumphant entry into Havana, Guevara murdered or oversaw the executions in summary trials of scores of people—proven enemies, suspected enemies, and those who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
In January 1957, as his diary from the Sierra Maestra indicates, Guevara shot Eutimio Guerra because he suspected him of passing on information: “I ended the problem with a .32 caliber pistol, in the right side of his brain.... His belongings were now mine.†Later he shot Aristidio, a peasant who expressed the desire to leave whenever the rebels moved on. While he wondered whether this particular victim “was really guilty enough to deserve death,†he had no qualms about ordering the death of EchevarrÃa, a brother of one of his comrades, because of unspecified crimes: “He had to pay the price.†At other times he would simulate executions without carrying them out, as a method of psychological torture.
Che was in charge of the Comisión Depuradora. The process followed the law of the Sierra: there was a military court and Che’s guidelines to us were that we should act with conviction, meaning that they were all murderers and the revolutionary way to proceed was to be implacable. My direct superior was Miguel Duque Estrada. My duty was to legalize the files before they were sent on to the Ministry. Executions took place from Monday to Friday, in the middle of the night, just after the sentence was given and automatically confirmed by the appellate body. On the most gruesome night I remember, seven men were executed.
Javier Arzuaga, the Basque chaplain who gave comfort to those sentenced to die and personally witnessed dozens of executions, spoke to me recently from his home in Puerto Rico. A former Catholic priest, now seventy-five, who describes himself as “closer to Leonardo Boff and Liberation Theology than to the former Cardinal Ratzinger,†he recalls that
there were about eight hundred prisoners in a space fit for no more than three hundred: former Batista military and police personnel, some journalists, a few businessmen and merchants. The revolutionary tribunal was made of militiamen. Che Guevara presided over the appellate court. He never overturned a sentence. I would visit those on death row at the galera de la muerte. A rumor went around that I hypnotized prisoners because many remained calm, so Che ordered that I be present at the executions. After I left in May, they executed many more, but I personally witnessed fifty-five executions. There was an American, Herman Marks, apparently a former convict. We called him “the butcher†because he enjoyed giving the order to shoot. I pleaded many times with Che on behalf of prisoners. I remember especially the case of Ariel Lima, a young boy. Che did not budge. Nor did Fidel, whom I visited. I became so traumatized that at the end of May 1959 I was ordered to leave the parish of Casa Blanca, where La Cabaña was located and where I had held Mass for three years. I went to Mexico for treatment. The day I left, Che told me we had both tried to bring one another to each other’s side and had failed. His last words were: “When we take our masks off, we will be enemies.â€
Which brings us back to Carlos Santana and his chic Che gear. In an open letter published in El Nuevo Herald on March 31 of this year, the great jazz musician Paquito D’Rivera castigated Santana for his costume at the Oscars, and added: “One of those Cubans [at La Cabaña] was my cousin Bebo, who was imprisoned there precisely for being a Christian. He recounts to me with infinite bitterness how he could hear from his cell in the early hours of dawn the executions, without trial or process of law, of the many who died shouting, ‘Long live Christ the King!’â€
Che’s lust for power had other ways of expressing itself besides murder. The contradiction between his passion for travel—a protest of sorts against the constraints of the nation-State—and his impulse to become himself an enslaving state over others is poignant. In writing about Pedro Valdivia, the conquistador of Chile, Guevara reflected: “He belonged to that special class of men the species produces every so often, in whom a craving for limitless power is so extreme that any suffering to achieve it seems natural.†He might have been describing himself. At every stage of his adult life, his megalomania manifested itself in the predatory urge to take over other people’s lives and property, and to abolish their free will.
In 1958, after taking the city of Sancti Spiritus, Guevara unsuccessfully tried to impose a kind of sharia, regulating relations between men and women, the use of alcohol, and informal gambling—a puritanism that did not exactly characterize his own way of life. He also ordered his men to rob banks, a decision that he justified in a letter to Enrique Oltuski, a subordinate, in November of that year: “The struggling masses agree to robbing banks because none of them has a penny in them.†This idea of revolution as a license to re-allocate property as he saw fit led the Marxist Puritan to take over the mansion of an emigrant after the triumph of the revolution.
The urge to dispossess others of their property and to claim ownership of others’ territory was central to Guevara’s politics of raw power. In his memoirs, the Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser records that Guevara asked him how many people had left his country because of land reform. When Nasser replied that no one had left, Che countered in anger that the way to measure the depth of change is by the number of people “who feel there is no place for them in the new society.†This predatory instinct reached a pinnacle in 1965, when he started talking, God-like, about the “New Man†that he and his revolution would create.
“Counterrevolutionary†is the term that was applied to anyone who departed from dogma. It was the communist synonym for “heretic.†Concentration camps were one form in which dogmatic power was employed to suppress dissent. History attributes to the Spanish general Valeriano Weyler, the captain-general of Cuba at the end of the nineteenth century, the first use of the word “concentration†to describe the policy of surrounding masses of potential opponents—in his case, supporters of the Cuban independence movement—with barbed wire and fences. How fitting that Cuba’s revolutionaries more than half a century later were to take up this indigenous tradition. In the beginning, the revolution mobilized volunteers to build schools and to work in ports, plantations, and factories—all exquisite photo-ops for Che the stevedore, Che the cane-cutter, Che the clothmaker. It was not long before volunteer work became a little less voluntary: the first forced labor camp, Guanahacabibes, was set up in western Cuba at the end of 1960. This is how Che explained the function performed by this method of confinement: “[We] only send to Guanahacabibes those doubtful cases where we are not sure people should go to jail ... people who have committed crimes against revolutionary morals, to a lesser or greater degree.... It is hard labor, not brute labor, rather the working conditions there are hard.â€
So Time magazine may have been less than accurate in August 1960 when it described the revolution’s division of labor with a cover story featuring Che Guevara as the “brain†and Fidel Castro as the “heart†and Raúl Castro as the “fist.†But the perception reflected Guevara’s crucial role in turning Cuba into a bastion of totalitarianism. Che was a somewhat unlikely candidate for ideological purity, given his bohemian spirit, but during the years of training in Mexico and in the ensuing period of armed struggle in Cuba he emerged as the communist ideologue infatuated with the Soviet Union, much to the discomfort of Castro and others who were essentially opportunists using whatever means were necessary to gain power. When the would-be revolutionaries were arrested in Mexico in 1956, Guevara was the only one who admitted that he was a communist and was studying Russian. (He spoke openly about his relationship with Nikolai Leonov from the Soviet Embassy.) During the armed struggle in Cuba, he forged a strong alliance with the Popular Socialist Party (the island’s Communist Party) and with Carlos Rafael RodrÃguez, a key player in the conversion of Castro’s regime to communism.
This fanatical disposition made Che into a linchpin of the “Sovietization†of the revolution that had repeatedly boasted about its independent character. Very soon after the barbudos came to power, Guevara took part in negotiations with Anastas Mikoyan, the Soviet deputy prime minister, who visited Cuba. He was entrusted with the mission of furthering Soviet-Cuban negotiations during a visit to Moscow in late 1960. (It was part of a long trip in which Kim Il Sung’s North Korea was the country that impressed him “the most.â€) Guevara’s second trip to Russia, in August 1962, was even more significant, because it sealed the deal to turn Cuba into a Soviet nuclear beachhead. He met Khrushchev in Yalta to finalize details on an operation that had already begun and involved the introduction of forty-two Soviet missiles, half of which were armed with nuclear warheads, as well as launchers and some forty-two thousand soldiers. After pressing his Soviet allies on the danger that the United States might find out what was happening, Guevara obtained assurances that the Soviet navy would intervene—in other words, that Moscow was ready to go to war.
According to Philippe Gavi’s biography of Guevara, the revolutionary had bragged that “this country is willing to risk everything in an atomic war of unimaginable destructiveness to defend a principle.†Just after the Cuban missile crisis ended—with Khrushchev reneging on the promise made in Yalta and negotiating a deal with the United States behind Castro’s back that included the removal of American missiles from Turkey—Guevara told a British communist daily: “If the rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them against the very heart of the United States, including New York, in our defense against aggression.†And a couple of years later, at the United Nations, he was true to form: “As Marxists we have maintained that peaceful coexistence among nations does not include coexistence between exploiters and the exploited.â€
Guevara distanced himself from the Soviet Union in the last years of his life. He did so for the wrong reasons, blaming Moscow for being too soft ideologically and diplomatically, for making too many concessions—unlike Maoist China, which he came to see as a haven of orthodoxy. In October 1964, a memo written by Oleg Daroussenkov, a Soviet official close to him, quotes Guevara as saying: “We asked the Czechoslovaks for arms; they turned us down. Then we asked the Chinese; they said yes in a few days, and did not even charge us, stating that one does not sell arms to a friend.†In fact, Guevara resented the fact that Moscow was asking other members of the communist bloc, including Cuba, for something in return for its colossal aid and political support. His final attack on Moscow came in Algiers, in February 1965, at an international conference, where he accused the Soviets of adopting the “law of value,†that is, capitalism. His break with the Soviets, in sum, was not a cry for independence. It was an Enver Hoxha–like howl for the total subordination of reality to blind ideological orthodoxy.
The great revolutionary had a chance to put into practice his economic vision—his idea of social justice—as head of the National Bank of Cuba and of the Department of Industry of the National Institute of Agrarian Reform at the end of 1959, and, starting in early 1961, as minister of industry. The period in which Guevara was in charge of most of the Cuban economy saw the near-collapse of sugar production, the failure of industrialization, and the introduction of rationing—all this in what had been one of Latin America’s four most economically successful countries since before the Batista dictatorship.
His stint as head of the National Bank, during which he printed bills signed “Che,†has been summarized by his deputy, Ernesto Betancourt: “[He] was ignorant of the most elementary economic principles.†Guevara’s powers of perception regarding the world economy were famously expressed in 1961, at a hemispheric conference in Uruguay, where he predicted a 10 percent rate of growth for Cuba “without the slightest fear,†and, by 1980, a per capita income greater than that of “the U.S. today.†In fact, by 1997, the thirtieth anniversary of his death, Cubans were dieting on a ration of five pounds of rice and one pound of beans per month; four ounces of meat twice a year; four ounces of soybean paste per week; and four eggs per month.
Land reform took land away from the rich, but gave it to the bureaucrats, not to the peasants. (The decree was written in Che’s house.) In the name of diversification, the cultivated area was reduced and manpower distracted toward other activities. The result was that between 1961 and 1963, the harvest was down by half, to a mere 3.8 million metric tons. Was this sacrifice justified by progress in Cuban industrialization? Unfortunately, Cuba had no raw materials for heavy industry, and, as a consequence of the revolutionary redistribution, it had no hard currency with which to buy them—or even basic goods. By 1961, Guevara was having to give embarrassing explanations to the workers at the office: “Our technical comrades at the companies have made a toothpaste ... which is as good as the previous one; it cleans just the same, though after a while it turns to stone.†By 1963, all hopes of industrializing Cuba were abandoned, and the revolution accepted its role as a colonial provider of sugar to the Soviet bloc in exchange for oil to cover its needs and to re-sell to other countries. For the next three decades, Cuba would survive on a Soviet subsidy of somewhere between $65 billion and $100 billion.
Particularly disastrous was the Congo expedition in 1965. Guevara sided with two rebels—Pierre Mulele in the west and Laurent Kabila in the east—against the ugly Congolese government, which was sustained by the United States as well as by South African and exiled Cuban mercenaries. Mulele had taken over Stanleyville earlier before being driven back. During his reign of terror, as V.S. Naipaul has written, he murdered all the people who could read and all those who wore a tie. As for Guevara’s other ally, Laurent Kabila, he was merely lazy and corrupt at the time; but the world would find out in the 1990s that he, too, was a killing machine. In any event, Guevara spent most of 1965 helping the rebels in the east before fleeing the country ignominiously. Soon afterward, Mobutu came to power and installed a decades-long tyranny. (In Latin American countries too, from Argentina to Peru, Che-inspired revolutions had the practical result of reinforcing brutal militarism for many years.)
Guevara was certainly bold and courageous, and quick at organizing life on a military basis in the territories under his control, but he was no General Giap. His book Guerrilla Warfare teaches that popular forces can beat an army, that it is not necessary to wait for the right conditions because an insurrectional foco (or small group of revolutionaries) can bring them about, and that the fight must primarily take place in the countryside. (In his prescription for guerrilla warfare, he also reserves for women the roles of cooks and nurses.) However, Batista’s army was not an army, but a corrupt bunch of thugs with no motivation and not much organization; and guerrilla focos, with the exception of Nicaragua, all ended up in ashes for the foquistas; and Latin America has turned 70 percent urban in these last four decades. In this regard, too, Che Guevara was a callous fool."
Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".
Thehandsom, feel free to admire whoever you want, but he is as much of a hero as Adolf Hitler is. There are worldwide organizations praising the latter although he hasn't become as commercialised a symbol as Che Guevara did. I recall a saying that even killing one person shows there's something wrong with you. If you think the pool of blood Che Guevara is responsible of still makes him your romantic (sic!) hero - I'm speechless. I have read his biography so it's not really that I know nothing about him. Here's something I found online - a bit lengthy but being such a fan, you may want to give it some time:
I will read it later on..
But day dreaming girl, he was not working for a charity..
He was a revolutionist with his Kalashnikov in one hand.
The other hand?
He was carrying a torch and trying to light the fire of freedom as he went along from one country to another.
He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..
He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..
Yeap and glory be to Adolf Hitler who helped Germany overcome a crisis and was driven by ideology. With revolutionaries ideology comes before the worth of a human life so...what did you say? Revolution demands victims? And Stalin? He was a revolutionary as well. Many paid for his ideas. And it's no use to say Che was better than them. Socialism (or national-socialism in case of Hitler's) is represented by unnecessary deaths, and all of the great revolutionaries are guilty as charged. You may lick the blood of their hands and call murder a necessity. It is up to your conscience. I cannot.
He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..
Yeap and glory be to Adolf Hitler who helped Germany overcome a crisis and was driven by ideology. With revolutionaries ideology comes before the worth of a human life so...what did you say? Revolution demands victims? And Stalin? He was a revolutionary as well. Many paid for his ideas. And it's no use to say Che was better than them. Socialism (or national-socialism in case of Hitler's) is represented by unnecessary deaths, and all of the great revolutionaries are guilty as charged. You may lick the blood of their hands and call murder a necessity. It is up to your conscience. I cannot.
You cannot compare Che Guavara to Stalin or Hitler!!!!!
Oh, can't I? Right....Hitler and Stalin hardly ever murdered people with their own hands like Che did
Hahahahaha! No - they murdered thousands with calm orders and from their comfortable houses
Oh so now I see what you love him for so much...he did not make others do the dirty work True, if you want something to be done the right way, you have to do it yourself
Jean-Paul Sartre, about Che Guevara "the most complete human being of our age".
Thehandsom, feel free to admire whoever you want, but he is as much of a hero as Adolf Hitler is. There are worldwide organizations praising the latter although he hasn't become as commercialised a symbol as Che Guevara did. I recall a saying that even killing one person shows there's something wrong with you. If you think the pool of blood Che Guevara is responsible of still makes him your romantic (sic!) hero - I'm speechless. I have read his biography so it's not really that I know nothing about him. Here's something I found online - a bit lengthy but being such a fan, you may want to give it some time:
I will read it later on..
But day dreaming girl, he was not working for a charity..
He was a revolutionist with his Kalashnikov in one hand.
The other hand?
He was carrying a torch and trying to light the fire of freedom as he went along from one country to another.
He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..
He was the most heroic of all the revolutionists in the world.
And he will remain that way..
Yeap and glory be to Adolf Hitler who helped Germany overcome a crisis and was driven by ideology. With revolutionaries ideology comes before the worth of a human life so...what did you say? Revolution demands victims? And Stalin? He was a revolutionary as well. Many paid for his ideas. And it's no use to say Che was better than them. Socialism (or national-socialism in case of Hitler's) is represented by unnecessary deaths, and all of the great revolutionaries are guilty as charged. You may lick the blood of their hands and call murder a necessity. It is up to your conscience. I cannot.
You have no idea what you are talking about. do you?
ps..I always suspected that some eastern block ignorant women would think 'ah, in old days, I could not buy any stockings . because there was not any. so, down with revolutionists. Now we have marks and spencers and I can even buy thongs. long live democracy'
I am interested Daydreamer, do you think that Cuba should have remained as it was? Do you think Haiti is a better example to set in the Caribbean?
There are many false facts "created" about both Che and Castro with good reason. They embarassed the US and have effectively been a country under seige ever since Castro took power. They defeated the US at the Bay of Pigs and the US has never forgiven them for it (the mafia were also a little bit put out ). The CIA have been trying to kill him for years!!!! They hate him with a passion for embarassing them in this way.
Only yesterday I heard someone on the news saying "how could Castro be a good leader when it is known he had millions of dollars! This "fact" was soon corrected and the BBC apologised for their error. They had read this "fact" in Forbes rich list. Forbes is well known to despise Castro and made up these figures in his book!
In fact Castro has NO MONEY at all. His children all worked in factories as soon as leaving school, and he lives a modest life. He is not a hyprocrite living in comfort (like leaders of so-called communism).
Oh, and I forgot about an inspiring pic just as you did
You are day dreaming..
That's what I do for life. But at least I don't make murderers my heroes, comrade
I have seriously enjoyed readibg your discussion about Che and revolutionaries. It was very informative.
But on a lighter note, the discussion made me recall my first thought when I saw the picture femme uploaded of me. I had felt honoured that she would think I had an air of Che about me, now I'm not so sure :-S
You have no idea what you are talking about. do you?
ps..I always suspected that some eastern block ignorant women would think 'ah, in old days, I could not buy any stockings . because there was not any. so, down with revolutionists. Now we have marks and spencers and I can even buy thongs. long live democracy'
I wonder what makes me more ignorant - the fact that I am a woman or that I am from the eastern block? Actually when the communism came down I was 11 years old so buying stockings was not really my problem.
I'm sure that you, being a Turk (I'm guessing so) and a male, have possessed the world's wisdom and by definition have the right to have the only right views. If you think arguments are about calling names - my sincere congratulations. How about me calling you a donkey? Would that help me put across my ideas? Very convincing that would be Unfortunately that's not my way of exchanging thoughts.
So, dear thehandson, grab a gun and follow your god. Don't let ignorant eastern women stand in your way. Those who think otherwise can always be slaughtered, right?
You have no idea what you are talking about. do you?
ps..I always suspected that some eastern block ignorant women would think 'ah, in old days, I could not buy any stockings . because there was not any. so, down with revolutionists. Now we have marks and spencers and I can even buy thongs. long live democracy'
I wonder what makes me more ignorant - the fact that I am a woman or that I am from the eastern block? Actually when the communism came down I was 11 years old so buying stockings was not really my problem.
I'm sure that you, being a Turk (I'm guessing so) and a male, have possessed the world's wisdom and by definition have the right to have the only right views. If you think arguments are about calling names - my sincere congratulations. How about me calling you a donkey? Would that help me put across my ideas? Very convincing that would be Unfortunately that's not my way of exchanging thoughts.
So, dear thehandson, grab a gun and follow your god. Don't let ignorant eastern women stand in your way. Those who think otherwise can always be slaughtered, right?
Ok Ok
apologies!!
calling names is not my style anyway.
But I will still insist that 'you have no idea what you are talking about' though..
I am interested Daydreamer, do you think that Cuba should have remained as it was? Do you think Haiti is a better example to set in the Caribbean?
There are many false facts "created" about both Che and Castro with good reason. They embarassed the US and have effectively been a country under seige ever since Castro took power. They defeated the US at the Bay of Pigs and the US has never forgiven them for it (the mafia were also a little bit put out ). The CIA have been trying to kill him for years!!!! They hate him with a passion for embarassing them in this way.
Only yesterday I heard someone on the news saying "how could Castro be a good leader when it is known he had millions of dollars! This "fact" was soon corrected and the BBC apologised for their error. They had read this "fact" in Forbes rich list. Forbes is well known to despise Castro and made up these figures in his book!
In fact Castro has NO MONEY at all. His children all worked in factories as soon as leaving school, and he lives a modest life. He is not a hyprocrite living in comfort (like leaders of so-called communism).
OOps..sorry AE, I just missed it. Still, I am afraid you won't like my answer anyway. I cannot tell what I think would have happened if it hadn't been for Fidel. Disappointing as it may be, I am no fortune teller and thus I am unable to speculate what would have happened if, and definitely I am terrible at guessing what would have been better. All I can do is to be critical about the past...
The trouble is you are judging both Castro and Che by US "hype".
Do you know that the US publically DENIED any involvement in the Bay of Pigs? It is only since a timeline was released by the National Security Archives that we know that they sent approximately 1,400 CIA special forces to overthrow Castro? They were so sure of victory that Kennedy even cancelled air strikes. They were, as we know defeated.
Oh, about media distorting the image of Fidel, you have an absolute point there. Media is about manipulation and distortion. But the fact that he lives up to his ideals doesn't mean he has the right to impose his ways on the whole society, does it?
Have you read Margareth Atwood's "The Handsmaid's Tale"? (The film sucks but the book is great) There is a line "there are two kinds of freedom: the freedom of something and the freedom to do something."
Even if we agree that basic needs of Cubans are provided for, they have no freedom. Now we can debate what's important - to have a full medical care or to be able to speak for ourselves. How free are Cubans?
The trouble is you are judging both Castro and Che by US "hype".
Do you know that the US publically DENIED any involvement in the Bay of Pigs? It is only since a timeline was released by the National Security Archives that we know that they sent approximately 1,400 CIA special forces to overthrow Castro? They were so sure of victory that Kennedy even cancelled air strikes. They were, as we know defeated.
Me the US advocate? Please...I love all the moments when US nosey nose gets stuck in dung It's great to see them taken down a peg or two. Like I said, I cannot be a judge in Cuba vs US case. All I can say is that Cuba's alleged welfare is a lie
Even if we agree that basic needs of Cubans are provided for, they have no freedom. Now we can debate what's important - to have a full medical care or to be able to speak for ourselves. How free are Cubans?
I am no communist, or supporter of it, but it DOES WORK in Cuba and Cubans are more free than they have ever been in Cuba's history (if we discount the murdered original inhabitants!). They have been African slaves and Spanish aristocrats, then mafia/US controlled with complete segregation (worse than South Africa EVER was). It is not a perfect society, but their standard of living is a damn sight better than the rest of the Caribbean, where only the rich and white enjoy such "freedom".
There are many false facts 'created' about both Che and Castro with good reason. They embarassed the US and have effectively been a country under seige ever since Castro took power. They defeated the US at the Bay of Pigs and the US has never forgiven them for it (the mafia were also a little bit put out ). The CIA have been trying to kill him for years!!!! They hate him with a passion for embarassing them in this way.
actually, dear it would not be a deal for US to crush down little cuba. all in all cuba is not on other side of the earth. but USA allowed cuba to stay as it is. they definelty did their parts to abolish the old goat at request of cuban opposition. but US didnt succeed.
btw, if it was ussr neighboring with a little country that was not socialist it would have been consumated in a second. the whole neighbourhood of ussr was under control of ussr except for japan.
but usa has different politics.
i dont think cuba was enbrassing usa. which way? the way that cubans flee from castro's cuba to usa?
Quoting AEnigma III:
Only yesterday I heard someone on the news saying 'how could Castro be a good leader when it is known he had millions of dollars! This 'fact' was soon corrected and the BBC apologised for their error. They had read this 'fact' in Forbes rich list. Forbes is well known to despise Castro and made up these figures in his book!
this is a crap. mass media does it to every politician
Quoting AEnigma III:
In fact Castro has NO MONEY at all. His children all worked in factories as soon as leaving school, and he lives a modest life. He is not a hyprocrite living in comfort (like leaders of so-called communism).
I am no communist, or supporter of it, but it DOES WORK in Cuba and Cubans are more free than they have ever been in Cuba's history (if we discount the murdered original inhabitants!). They have been African slaves and Spanish aristocrats, then mafia/US controlled with complete segregation (worse than South Africa EVER was). It is not a perfect society, but their standard of living is a damn sight better than the rest of the Caribbean, where only the rich and white enjoy such "freedom".
ah, now i understand, you comparing cuba to other carribean world
I am no communist, or supporter of it, but it DOES WORK in Cuba and Cubans are more free than they have ever been in Cuba's history (if we discount the murdered original inhabitants!). They have been African slaves and Spanish aristocrats, then mafia/US controlled with complete segregation (worse than South Africa EVER was). It is not a perfect society, but their standard of living is a damn sight better than the rest of the Caribbean, where only the rich and white enjoy such "freedom".
Awesome, why then so many people cannot somehow deign to understand how lucky they are and try to make it for the terrible US swimming on rafts? Why is there an underground not willing to gratefully accept Fidel's mercy?
Hey, I have another country on my mind - not a communist country, and much richer than Cuba - The Arab Emirates. People are fed there, have gorgeous cars, good educational system and medical too (my friend worked there for a while so I have first hand news). Well, human rights may be an issue but, does it really matter if your stomach's full? Does it really matter if it's a commie Cuba or an Islamist Emirates? Human rights are secondary to nutritional needs. At least that's what I am reading from your posts.
Offfff I got bored with arguing now Shall we just agree to differ?
motion seconded. I have no intention of convincing anybody because:
"My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes."
that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!
this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.
i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.
that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!
this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.
i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.
OMG I guess it doesn't matter showing a poor deformed person as a joke - just so long as they are not wearing scanty clothing.
If she truly wants to avoid stereotypes over body image, then why has she not called this person "beautiful" too, as per her other pic?
that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!
this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.
i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.
Here is the thing, Femme your's was totally funny, humorous in a playful way. I find her pic to be offensive..that poor human, whatever happened to them and their disability shouldn't be exploited on a TC Site.
their disability shouldn't be exploited on a TC Site.
not only here in TC but also anywhere else!
btw, our former admin is the future doctor?
It was a disgusting thing to do and that person should be ashamed.
I have been fortunate enough to have children of all capabilities in my class. Some with severe and global barriers to learning (learning in the mainstream sense of the word). But these children enrich the lives of others and they DO make contributions to society. Although they may not 'learn' in the conventional sense, they DO learn and it is wonderful to see them blossom.
btw being a doctor doesn't mean one has the moral/ethical high ground http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman .
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK should expect a "demonstration of commitment" and the process of becoming a citizen should be "more exacting".
And the big theme is that migrants will need to take extra steps to "earn" citizenship and become fully-paid up members of society.
In future, they will need to spend the next sixt(y) to eight(y) years proving their worth to the UK.
They will have to obey the law and where possible prove they are "active citizens".
Acceptable activities could include proof of voluntary work, of being involved in local groups or the school parent-teacher association. Migrants will need to find referees to vouch for these good deeds.
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Phew!!!!
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the UK should expect a "demonstration of commitment" and the process of becoming a citizen should be "more exacting".
And the big theme is that migrants will need to take extra steps to "earn" citizenship and become fully-paid up members of society.
In future, they will need to spend the next sixt(y) to eight(y) years proving their worth to the UK.
They will have to obey the law and where possible prove they are "active citizens".
Acceptable activities could include proof of voluntary work, of being involved in local groups or the school parent-teacher association. Migrants will need to find referees to vouch for these good deeds.
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Phew!!!!
why do you still care for citizenship proceedings?
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
dont worry, you see we both are natural, i love his hair, and he loves my fat ass. thats why he will never leave each other.
that one of the former admins (although still in power) uploaded a poorly damaged part of a poor human being as a joke!
this former admin was annoyed with a piece of art that was upoladed yesterday. but surely the former admin (who is still power) decided that its ok to use such picture as a joke.
i think we have a person whos not normal and very obssessive with certain members of TC.
we shall wait until the former admin grows up.
Maybe somebody else needs to grow up here, who sadly only points fingers, doesn't refrain from calling offensive names at whim and looks like also disrespects animals. The picture of foam I uploaded is not making fun of a person with a disability, it's a congenital lack of brain that's incompatible with life. I said that this is foam, and didn't make fun of it. I made fun of foam, not a disability.
The picture of foam I uploaded is not making fun of a person with a disability, it's a congenital lack of brain that's incompatible with life. I said that this is foam, and didn't make fun of it. I made fun of foam, not a disability.
Everything else aside....it is a curious photo. Is that a newborn? If so, can you give more information? Things like gestation time, how long it lived and other educational information?
The ears are very odd, not really human looking.
I've seen some pretty odd human embryo abnormalities, this looks like one of those.
The reason I was disgusted with this picture is because my brothers baby was born with this, I knew exactely what the pic was. Perfect from his neck down..was born with half a brain. No rhyme or reason..but obviously didn't live. It was quite shocking..
The reason I was disgusted with this picture is because my brothers baby was born with this, I knew exactely what the pic was. Perfect from his neck down..was born with half a brain. No rhyme or reason..but obviously didn't live. It was quite shocking..
I'm sorry to hear about it, I'll remove the picture for you.
The reason I was disgusted with this picture is because my brothers baby was born with this, I knew exactely what the pic was. Perfect from his neck down..was born with half a brain. No rhyme or reason..but obviously didn't live. It was quite shocking..
I'm sorry to hear about it, i'll remove the picture for you.
Thanks Cat..Believe me I knew what your intentions were and I always like a good laugh. I just couldn't laugh at this one..since it hit home, that's all.
Thanks Cat..Believe me I knew what your intentions were and I always like a good laugh. I just couldn't laugh at this one..since it hit home, that's all.
Well, foam uploaded a rat picture and called me a bitch because I didn't like Aenigma's painting... I'm wondering who's the sick one here.
Anyways, thanks for understanding. I'm really sorry about your brother's child, it's extremely sad.
I am just relieved that my "Me in Islanbul during Snowstorm" has been such a success
No complaints so far and 13 people clicked for a closer look
Its a wonderful picture....why don't you post the one of you in Istanbul in the Dark? It's my favorite of you. I have it in a frame next to the one of you, femme and me in cooking glass.
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
Uhh, lis...could you slow down on posting today. I am still not feeling well and all this stalking is wearing me out!
I know you stalk me because you love me....so you will just have to keep up.....Hey, does anyone watch Nip/Tuck....there was a stalker story line on it...good stuff!!
I know you stalk me because you love me....so you will just have to keep up.....Hey, does anyone watch Nip/Tuck....there was a stalker story line on it...good stuff!!
Please let's watch the language in the forums. Writing "f... off" is not more acceptable than writing it openly. If there is a complaint about a user you can send me an e-mail or private message instead of getting into a personal quarrel.
IS THIS THE CRAZIEST STAG DO PRANK EVER?
man at race
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horses belting towards the finishing line when a streaker on his stag do risked life and limb to run out on to the race course to join them, at Moruya racetrack, new South Wales, Australia, on the 16th of February 2008. Jockey Tracy O'Hara was almost sent crashing to the turf when her horse Morcombe took fright as the streaker staggered on to track. O'Hara and her horse were well clear of their rivals 100m from home only to slam into the inside running rail when the bleary-eyed intruder entered the course. Rival horse Bournda See stormed home to finish first past the post. The race was later scrapped and a 31-year-old man was arrested at the track and later issued with a court attendance notice for offensive conduct.
And the finish
IS THIS THE CRAZIEST STAG DO PRANK EVER?
man at race
caption says:
horses belting towards the finishing line when a streaker on his stag do risked life and limb to run out on to the race course to join them, at Moruya racetrack, new South Wales, Australia, on the 16th of February 2008. Jockey Tracy O'Hara was almost sent crashing to the turf when her horse Morcombe took fright as the streaker staggered on to track. O'Hara and her horse were well clear of their rivals 100m from home only to slam into the inside running rail when the bleary-eyed intruder entered the course. Rival horse Bournda See stormed home to finish first past the post. The race was later scrapped and a 31-year-old man was arrested at the track and later issued with a court attendance notice for offensive conduct.
And the finish
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
Ewereka, the painting sheep .
Meet 'Ewereka', the sheep that paints. Fitted with a special harness while she works Ewereka often needs a little bit of assistance, so Ann helps by holding the canvas from time to time. With frequent stops for more pellets to eat and for more paint to be put on her brush Ewereka has completed many fine works. Her owner Ann has has over 1000 successful sheep paintings in all and she sells them at galleries all over South Africa.
I guess you have them 99? we say every borat has a little family of 99 other borats
OMG femme are you sure about this relationship with handsom???? Can you imagine what life will be like with another 99 hairy handsom's running around your house? Just think of all the lint rollers you will need to keep all that shedded hair off your burka!
Ewereka, the painting sheep .
Meet 'Ewereka', the sheep that paints. Fitted with a special harness while she works Ewereka often needs a little bit of assistance, so Ann helps by holding the canvas from time to time. With frequent stops for more pellets to eat and for more paint to be put on her brush Ewereka has completed many fine works. Her owner Ann has has over 1000 successful sheep paintings in all and she sells them at galleries all over South Africa.
Ewereka, the painting sheep .
Meet 'Ewereka', the sheep that paints. Fitted with a special harness while she works Ewereka often needs a little bit of assistance, so Ann helps by holding the canvas from time to time. With frequent stops for more pellets to eat and for more paint to be put on her brush Ewereka has completed many fine works. Her owner Ann has has over 1000 successful sheep paintings in all and she sells them at galleries all over South Africa.
TO ADMIN
i would like to ask what happened to those marvelous pictures of Slavica? and those poems she posted? the warmth that was brought by her posts?
how could this happen? i am sure she would not have deleted all those beauties she worked to put up here.
i am sorry to ask in this way, admin, but what is going on?
this site is wonderful, has great and valuable information.
this site is yours, you decide upon it's existence.
this site is a great deal of work.
i did not contribute much to its informative value, yet i am between main contributors. i am ashamed to be... this site may have a top of contributions. most of the contributors may bring contributions upon their knowledge. but what about those beauties for the eye and heart?
do not let the beauties of this site being vanished, please.
it is an act of irresponsibility towards each eye coming to see beauties, each mind interested in knowing what is put up here and the heart of human kind. each breath counts, each thought and each prayer.
it is irresponsible toward the fingers that worked in transmitting knowledge or beauties, the mind that was receptive and gathered this knowledge and the heart that made this come alive.
TO ADMIN
i would like to ask what happened to those marvelous pictures of Slavica? and those poems she posted? the warmth that was brought by her posts?
how could this happen? i am sure she would not have deleted all those beauties she worked to put up here.
i am sorry to ask in this way, admin, but what is going on?
this site is wonderful, has great and valuable information.
this site is yours, you decide upon it's existence.
this site is a great deal of work.
i did not contribute much to its informative value, yet i am between main contributors. i am ashamed to be... this site may have a top of contributions. most of the contributors may bring contributions upon their knowledge. but what about those beauties for the eye and heart?
do not let the beauties of this site being vanished, please.
it is an act of irresponsibility towards each eye coming to see beauties, each mind interested in knowing what is put up here and the heart of human kind. each breath counts, each thought and each prayer.
it is irresponsible toward the fingers that worked in transmitting knowledge or beauties, the mind that was receptive and gathered this knowledge and the heart that made this come alive.
THANK YOU
PORTOKAL
i found the pictures.
i apologize for these above, what i said came from the fact that it would be a great loss for all those pictures and posts.
Jesus and pine tree!
I thought these things would happen to muslims only
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BENSALEM, PENNSYLVANIA: The image found in the pine trunk. When furniture maker Craig O'Connor started work on his latest piece, he was stunned to discover an image of Jesus in a block of wood that he cut from a pine tree. Craig tried selling the piece of wood on Ebay but only got an offer of $500 USD. He now plans to incorporate the trunk in to a piece of furniture.
Actually it was yesterday, a rather disturbing documentary about Iranian transexuals, waiting for gender reassignment. As transexuals they could not dress as woman without permission from a government official, and as women they were rejected by their families. The strange thing is that gender reassignment in Iran is second highest in the world after Thailand.
I think the saddest thing was that all of them regretted it. They would rather have stayed transexuals and tried to get away with wearing womens clothes. But transvestites are usually hanged if caught, the same as homosexuals. So the motive to have the operation is high.
One of those interviewed now was on the "game" and to allow sex for money with every "client" she had a temporary marriage for a couple of hours. The most disturbing part was one of the gender reassigned had a boy friend who new about the reassignment and that he was not with a "proper" woman! and her mother wanted them to marry, the only reassigned to remain with and be accepted by the family, only perhaps there appeared to be no father about.
I found the whole programme very sad, and it clearly highlighted the oppression of women (there you are Cat a feminist remark from me!) in Iran and the strong desire by many of the younger generation for change.
I found the whole programme very sad, and it clearly highlighted the oppression of women (there you are Cat a feminist remark from me!) in Iran and the strong desire by many of the younger generation for change.
But RTUK, Turkey's broadcasting watchdog, is working on a draft bill that would ban scenes "encourag[ing]" consumption of alcohol.
Savagely criticised by the secular media, the Prime Minister, Tayyip Erdogan, said: "You print pictures of totally naked women in newspapers against this nation's moral values. Have we interfered with that?"
The Turkish invasion could destroy a unified Iraq!!
Iraq is disintegrating faster than ever. The Turkish army invaded the north of the country last week and is still there. Iraqi Kurdistan is becoming like Gaza where Israel can send in its tanks and helicopters at will.
The US, so sensitive to any threat to Iraqi sovereignty from Iran or Syria, has blandly consented to the Turkish attack on the one part of Iraq which was at peace. The Turkish government piously claims that its army is in pursuit of PKK Turkish Kurd guerrillas, but it is unlikely to inflict serious damage on them as they hide in long-prepared bunkers and deep ravines of the Kurdish mountains. What the Turkish incursion is doing is weakening the Kurdistan Regional Government, the autonomous Kurdish zone, the creation of which is one of the few concrete achievements of the US and British invasion of Iraq five years ago.
Italian researchers, who used ultrasound scans to explore inside the vaginas of 20 women, say they have found a thickened area of tissue in those who said they had experienced vaginal orgasms – but not in those who had not.
"For the first time it is possible to determine by a simple, rapid and inexpensive method if a woman has a G spot or not," Emmanuele Jannini, from the University of L'Aquila, told New Scientist.
I suggests, all women should take this ultrasound scan, have the result about where abouts of their g-spots and show it to their partners in advance..
Kidding? So that we miss all the fun with their looking for it? Or to let them get away with "It's not my fault you didn't come - your scan shows you have no G-spot"? NO WAY
And Catherine Townsend thinks she also has a G-spot in her brains!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-788466.html[/URL]
ON her brain handsom!!!! ON her brain!!! Slightly different meaning!
And Catherine Townsend thinks she also has a G-spot in her brains!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-788466.html[/URL]
ON her brain handsom!!!! ON her brain!!! Slightly different meaning!
I suggests, all women should take this ultrasound scan, have the result about where abouts of their g-spots and show it to their partners in advance..
Kidding? So that we miss all the fun with their looking for it? Or to let them get away with "It's not my fault you didn't come - your scan shows you have no G-spot"? NO WAY
I was not kidding at all!!
women should take their scans, enlarge it to A1 size, mark the spot with a red marker , frame it and put it on the wall above the bed!! (I think marking is quite important here..it should be a big, unambiguous X)
And then you can 'blame' your partner if 'the final destination' was not mutual..
Blind Irishman sees with the aid of son's tooth in his eye - DUBLIN (AFP) - An Irishman blinded by an explosion two years ago has had his sight restored after doctors inserted his son's tooth in his eye, he said on Wednesday.
Bob McNichol, 57, from County Mayo in the west of the country, lost his sight in a freak accident when red-hot liquid aluminium exploded at a re-cycling business in November 2005. 'I thought that I was going to be blind for the rest of my life,' McNichol told RTE state radio.
After doctors in Ireland said there was nothing more they could do, McNichol heard about a miracle operation called Osteo-Odonto-Keratoprosthesis (OOKP) being performed by Dr Christopher Liu at the Sussex Eye Hospital in Brighton in England. The technique, pioneered in Italy in the 1960s, involves creating a support for an artificial cornea from the patient's own tooth and the surrounding bone.
The procedure used on McNichol involved his son Robert, 23, donating a tooth, its root and part of the jaw. McNichol's right eye socket was rebuilt, part of the tooth inserted and a lens inserted in a hole drilled in the tooth.
The first operation lasted ten hours and the second five hours.
'It is pretty heavygoing McNicholl said. 'There was a 65 percent chance of me getting any sight. 'Now I have enough sight for me to get around and I can watch television. I have come out from complete darkness to be able to do simple things,' McNichol said.
I like how this thread have developed! and talking of eyes I have my other one lasered tomorrow - so almost perfect vision (except for age related short sightedness)
I like how this thread have developed! and talking of eyes I have my other one lasered tomorrow - so almost perfect vision (except for age related short sightedness)
I wish you good luck, hope you will be able to see again.
News in Hurriyet..
It says that Turkey's offensive is over..Hmmm..
We will see if it is correct!!
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/8342171.asp?gid=229&sz=75952
Israeli minister warns of Holocaust for Gaza if violence continues: How charming!!!
Israel's deputy defence minister yesterday warned his country was close to launching a huge military operation in Gaza and said Palestinians would bring on themselves a "bigger shoah," using the Hebrew word usually reserved for the Holocaust.
A student from Ohio disliked his principal so much he made up a Myspace page for him, complete with picture and his profile portreying him as a child molester. It described his "special interests" as (amongst others) was "jacking off in my office".
The pupils handwork was discovered and he was prompty expelled.
You can imagine the suprise (or not!) when a lawsuit landed on the desk of the local authority, from the parents of the pupil claiming their "snowflake" of a child was being denied his freedom of speech. Disrespecting teachers outside school hours was a tradition and that their son should be reinstated promptly!
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You thought you never knew the taste of suffering until you met a grumpy woman who is mean and makes your life like hell. Is this the woman you married? Do you feel that you will not make it to the following year? Read about the trials and tribulations of one.
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When it was my time to marry, despite was what was being said, I made-up my mind to marry a woman from my community. Of course I recognized the implications of marrying locally. I had a very bad life — the home was permeated with a cloudy atmosphere which was full of sadness and sulkiness. Breakfast time consisted of my wife yelling, and I dined to her wailing and weeping. At supper and bedtime, I was assured nothing remained unchanged by her cursing me.
We never talked, but battled. Our home was gloomy with pale colors and mysterious features. It had no life and there were two life-giving aspects: the sun and visitors.
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One day, a friend of mine invited my wife and me to lunch at his home. I was so scared that my wife would refuse, or that she would go and be at her worst, which is not much different from her best! I asked her gently and kindly to come with me and she agreed without a second thought, and she was polite … I wondered why!
We made the journey to my friend's house. We were welcomed to a home that was full of light, joy, and happiness, the reason for which was the harmony between him and his wife. Happiness was their way, respect was their motto. Love guided them and brought light into their life. They were like Shahryar and Scheherazade of The Thousand and One Nights. No, they were like lovebirds that do not speak, but chant and warble. Their words to each other were those of a father and mother, a brother and sister, a husband and wife, a companion, friend, and healer.
I never wanted to leave, but we did, and I was filled with confusion. My wife was so different with my friend. Her face was softer, and she was calm to the point that she became a part of that harmonious unit. In fact, she was nothing like the she-devil that had come to make my life a misery. I did not know this woman that I have lived with for what seemed far too long.
"Allah guide my wife and make her like the wife of my friend," I thought.
I became obsessed with it all, thinking about the reasons day and night, over and over. I was never able to figure out why they were so different from us. So I decided to go to my friend and ask, and he surprised me with an unexpected reason:
"Whoever ignores, forever loses; and whoever knows, wins the world and its bliss. A woman is a gift from Allah," he said.
He continued, "Her heart is a spring of kindness, her bosom is the center of warmth, and her blood is a river of fragrance. She gives for no return, and she is tolerant with the love of good deeds. She respects her husband and guards his entity. Her beauty is in her spirit. Her charm and attraction are in her enlightened mind, awareness, and wise opinion. Had the case been different, grand men of letters would not have said 'Behind every great man is a woman' or 'Women are half the society.' So think, what happens if a man does not appreciate or respect his wife? You have no idea what the return will be if you embrace her with your kindness, with even one word!"
I left my friend in a thoughtful and light mood and returned to my wife seeking her forgiveness and regretting the life I had wasted without ever trying to understand her. From that moment, love blessed our home with respect. We lived more joyously and no less so than my friend and his wife.
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And so ends my nightmare, and I pray to Allah Almighty that every man will come to know the true worth of his wife and to put an end to the life that he has wasted with his mind and his heart away from her and their marriage.
Once upon a time. There was a rich merchant who had four (4) wives.
He loved the 4th wife the most and adorned her with rich robes and treated her to delicacies. He took great care of her and gave her nothing but the best.
He also loved the 3rd wife very much. He's very proud of her and always wanted to show off her to his friends. However, the merchant is always in great fear that she might run away with some other men.
He too, loved his 2nd wife. She is a very considerate person, always patient and in fact is the merchant's confidante. Whenever the merchant faced some problems, he always turned to his 2nd wife and she would always help him out and tide him through difficult times.
Now, the merchant's 1st wife is a very loyal partner and has made great contributions in maintaining his wealth and business as well as taking care of the household. However, the merchant did not love the first wife and although she loved him deeply, he hardly took notice of her.
One day, the merchant fell ill. Before long, he knew that he was going to die soon. He thought of his luxurious life and told himself, "Now I have 4 wives with me. But when I die, I'll be alone. How lonely I'll be!" Thus, he asked the 4th wife, "I loved you most, endowed you with the finest clothing and showered great care over you. Now that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?"
"No way!" replied the 4th wife and she walked away without another word.
The answer cut like a sharp knife right into the merchant's heart.
The sad merchant then asked the 3rd wife, "I have loved you so much for all my life. Now that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?"
"No!" replied the 3rd wife. "Life is so good over here! I'm going to remarry when you die!" The merchant's heart sank and turned cold.
He then asked the 2nd wife, "I always turned to you for help and you've always helped me out. Now I need your help again. When I die, will you follow me and keep me company?" "I'm sorry, I can't help you out this time!" replied the 2nd wife. "At the very most, I can only send you to your grave." The answer came like a bolt of thunder and the merchant was devastated.
Then a voice called out: "I'll leave with you. I'll follow you no matter where you go." The merchant looked up and there was his first wife. She was so skinny, almost like she suffered from malnutrition.
Greatly grieved, the merchant said, "I should have taken much better care of you while I could have!"
Actually, we all have 4 wives in our lives. The 4th wife is our body. No matter how much time and effort we lavish in making it look good, it'll leave us when we die.
Our 3rd wife is our possessions, status and wealth. When we die, they all go to others.
The 2nd wife is our family and friends. No matter how close they had been there for us when we're alive, the furthest they can stay by us is up to the grave.
The 1st wife is in fact our soul, often neglected in our pursuit of material wealth and sensual pleasure.
Guess what? It is actually the only thing that follows us wherever we go. Perhaps it's a good idea to cultivate and strengthen it now rather than to wait until we're on our deathbed to lament.
"A spokesman for Israel's Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Arye Mekel, said the Palestinian decision was a mistake and expressed hope negotiations would resume. "
True, it is a mistake, but I'm not sure this statement is sincere.
Mehdi Kazemi is a gay teenager from Iran. He sought sanctuary in Britain after his boyfriend was hanged for homosexuality. So why is Britain so determined to send him back to Tehran – to almost certain execution?
spanking children causes an increase in sexual deviancy in adulthood. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/catherine-townsend/catherine-townsend-sleeping-around-791980.html
(I am getting increasingly hot for this woman, btw )
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Described on its website as "The erotic, intimate scent of an irresistible woman". This is no perfume but "a beguiling vaginal scent which is purely for your own smelling pleasure". Users are advised to apply a tiny amount of this "intoxicating substance" to the back of the hand to experience "the irresistible smell of a moist, sensuous vagina".
Jonathan Ross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVff661pytI
Not putting any image..In case catwoman starts talking about feminism, exploitation blah blah!!
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Described on its website as 'The erotic, intimate scent of an irresistible woman'. This is no perfume but 'a beguiling vaginal scent which is purely for your own smelling pleasure'. Users are advised to apply a tiny amount of this 'intoxicating substance' to the back of the hand to experience 'the irresistible smell of a moist, sensuous vagina'.
Jonathan Ross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVff661pytI
Not putting any image..In case catwoman starts talking about feminism, exploitation blah blah!!
Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.
A student from Ohio disliked his principal so much he made up a Myspace page for him, complete with picture and his profile portreying him as a child molester. It described his "special interests" as (amongst others) was "jacking off in my office".
The pupils handwork was discovered and he was prompty expelled.
You can imagine the suprise (or not!) when a lawsuit landed on the desk of the local authority, from the parents of the pupil claiming their "snowflake" of a child was being denied his freedom of speech. Disrespecting teachers outside school hours was a tradition and that their son should be reinstated promptly!
Just another example of a frivolous lawsuit. And you wonder why some kids turn to drugs and crime..just a little help from mom and dad.
Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.
Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.
Sorry LIR, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think wanting to have handsom removed for posting a couple of irreverent things is going a bit far.
There are people cursing and swearing on this website and they don't get deleted. What would be the reason to delete handsom? Because he typed the word, "vulva"?
Handsom is fairly gentlemanly most of the time. I am sure if you have a problem with his post, you could PM him and maybe you would get an apology...or maybe not...but asking for a petition to have someone deleted is just not right.
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Described on its website as "The erotic, intimate scent of
Not putting any image..In case catwoman starts talking about feminism, exploitation blah blah!!
I deleted most of the quote.
Thehandsom, I don't think you should be deleted because everyone deserves a second chance but this post is so vulgar. You even capitalised the first couple of words, so even if members do want to pass it by they are still left with the question of why anyone would be interested in duch a subject in Eurkish Class. Not very nice of you at all.
It's quite interesting how people took handsom's post. I didn't find anything offensive in it, and you know how serious I am about these things . To me it only showed that stupidity has no limit and those idiotic manufacturers will go to any length to use stupid people.
Handsom is fairly gentlemanly most of the time. I am sure if you have a problem with his post, you could PM him and maybe you would get an apology...or maybe not...but asking for a petition to have someone deleted is just not right.
Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.
As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.
'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.
Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.
Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!
Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.
As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.
'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.
Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.
I totally agree with you Libralady. What the hell...!
Quoting libralady:
Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!
Well,this really is the final straw. I'm sorry thehandsom but I for one have had enough of your obscene posts. Petitions seem to be all the rage at the moment and I think it would be a good idea to start a petition to have you removed from this site.
Sorry LIR, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think wanting to have handsom removed for posting a couple of irreverent things is going a bit far.
World's Smallest Gun That Shoots Deadly Bullets. The Swiss Mini Gun is the size of a key fob but fires tiny 270mph bullets powerful enough to kill at close range and is officially the world's smallest working revolver. It is the being marketed as a collector's item and measures just 2.16 inches long (5.5cm). It can fire real 4.53 bullets up to a range of 367ft (112m). The stainless steel gun costs £3,000 although the manufacturers also produce extravagant, made-to-order versions made out of 18-carat gold with customised diamond studs which sell for up to £30,000. At just over two inches long it is the world's smallest gun - but the 300mph bullets it fires mean it is still deadly It cannot be imported into the UK, and buyers in Switzerland and Europe must produce an import permit from police to obtain one. The gun is banned from being imported into the US - because it's barrel is less than three inches, meaning it is deemed too small to qualify for sporting purposes.
Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.
As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.
'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.
Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.
Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!
Joe Orton was a brilliant writer but I hardly think his antics at the library set a good example to today's children .
Gandhi, a great human being. Perhaps his statue would remind people that peaceful protests can be effective. I understand what you are saying about this Libra - the legacy of good old British Colonialism :-S
Lineker would be my choice. A good modern role model for self control and behaviour.
Plans to erect a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in the city centre of Leicester has run into trouble, with a section of the population favouring soccer icon and local hero Gary Lineker to be honoured instead.
As much as I admired Gandhi, he has nothing to do with Leicester or Britain for that matter, personally I think they should have a statue of Gary Lineker who was one of Britains most famous footballer, notably for never being booked or even cautioned in his career.
'Gandhi is a historical figure connected to India. He has no connection to English culture or the English, therefore a statue of him would be more suitably erected in India. This would be yet another symbol of segregation in Leicester and it would be something else for the Asian community. We have local heroes here, Lineker or the writer, Joe Orton,' Ingram said.
Leicester has a high Asian population and is predicted to be Britain's first white-minority city in 12 years.
Just more proof that Britain is going totally bonkers!
Joe Orton was a brilliant writer but I hardly think his antics at the library set a good example to today's children .
Gandhi, a great human being. Perhaps his statue would remind people that peaceful protests can be effective. I understand what you are saying about this Libra - the legacy of good old British Colonialism :-S
Lineker would be my choice. A good modern role model for self control and behaviour.
Apart from Lineker, the only other good thing about Leicester is the Cheese!
Grandmother, 89, seeks power via internet
Once, the internet was seen as the preserve of teenage geeks with too much time on their hands. Then came the "silver surfers", a generation of retirees keen to get to grips with the technological revolution. Now, a bicycling 89-year-old Malaysian woman is proving that the worldwide web can be a springboard to power.
Maimun is by some margin the oldest candidate standing in Saturday's national election. And she's almost certainly the oldest electoral candidate in the world. But, with a blog that boasts of nearly 8,000 hits since Wednesday alone, and a Facebook page, the grandmother of seven and great-grandmother of 19 is refusing to bow out of the race
Rachel Miller 101 year old Buster Martin is going to run the London Marathon. His training involves pint drinking and smoking 40 a day. Buster holds his London Valley Half medal and Bupa Great Capital Run medal.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has approved a plan to build up to 750 new homes in a Jewish settlement in the West Bank.
"the demographic needs of Jerusalem".
Mr Olmert's spokesman, Mark Regev said:
"We have approved it. It is consistent with our policy of building within the large settlement blocs, which will remain in Israel in any final-status agreement," he added.
Under the terms of the peace process settlement expansion is supposed to be frozen.
No Israel doesn't want peace. I already posted words to this effect in another thread. The Palestinians said they would not come to the peace talks after being provoked by Israel. I think the Israelies did that on purpose, knowing what the result might be. I haven't updated on that yet though will do it now.
The unofficial sign shown at Yangren street, Chonqing, March 8, 2008. The sign, meaning prostitution is strictly forbidden at Yangren street, was put up by the management department of Yangren street, in ordet to remind visitors abiding by the laws. CHINA
All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship. source BBC News
What a downright insult! How much more like America do they want us to be
and we are not citizens we are subjects as we are a monarcy! So Gordon Brown, put that in your pipe an smoke it.
All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship. source BBC News
What a downright insult! How much more like America do they want us to be
and we are not citizens we are subjects as we are a monarcy! So Gordon Brown, put that in your pipe an smoke it.
All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship. source BBC News
Ok, so the government decided that you need to be controlled better! You're right about America though! Our rights and freedom are being slowly but steadily taken away one by one...
"The November 13, 2001, Presidential Military Order gave the President of the United States the power to detain a non-citizen suspected of connection to terrorists or terrorism as an unlawful combatant. As such, it was asserted that a person could be held indefinitely without charges being filed against him or her, without a court hearing, and without entitlement to a legal consultant. Many legal and constitutional scholars contended that these provisions were in direct opposition to habeas corpus and the United States Bill of Rights."
As you see, those who say that America is progressing into fascism are right..
All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship. source BBC News
Ok, so the government decided that you need to be controlled better!
Hail to the Queen... Hey I thought Brown was better than Blair..You guys are never happy are you.
The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.
The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.
The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.
The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.
Also.
The majority of french resistence and warsaw ghetto occupants supported suicide bombings.
The majority of french resistence and warsaw ghetto occupants did not recognize Nazi germany's right to exist.
The majority of french resistence and warsaw ghetto occupants support all the acts of violence against german military and citizens during wwii.
The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.
The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.
I don't doubt most of these, but I would like to see where you got your facts for killing Jewish children...
The majority of Palestinians 70% support suicide bombings
The majority of Palestinians support the killing of Jewish civilians, including Jewish children
The majority of Palestinians do not accept Israel's right to exist.
The majority of Palestinians support the Sept 11th killings.
Palestinians dance in the streets on 9/11.
The only people I feel sorry for are the innocent, which looks to be roughly 30%.
I don't doubt most of these, but I would like to see where you got your facts for killing Jewish children...
thank you tea....
please note however, this poll is over 5 years old. At that time, it was the height of Israel's internationally recognized illegal property seizures and settlements.
Since that time, many of these settlements were forfeited due to international pressure. I would hope that no one on anyside whould take pleasure in the death of a child.
thank you tea....
please note however, this poll is over 5 years old. At that time, it was the height of Israel's internationally recognized illegal property seizures and settlements.
Since that time, many of these settlements were forfeited due to international pressure. I would hope that no one on anyside whould take pleasure in the death of a child.
Keith I have attached a 2007 survey, which you may find interesting. Unfortunately, there are people who do take pleasure in killing children to the degree that they even strap on a bomb to their own childs back. As far as I can see nothing has changed in five years on either side.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=257
Fall from Grace: E. Spitzer
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112008/news/regionalnews/spitzer_has_used_hookers_for_6_years__so_101444.htm
prosecutors said in court papers that Spitzer had been caught on a wiretap spending $4,300 with the Emperors Club VIP call-girl service, with some of the money going toward a night with a prostitute named Kristen, and the rest to be used as credit toward future trysts. The papers also suggested that Spitzer had done this before.
The funny thing is, the Governor was caught because of banking software that tracks all money transfers to look for money laundering. Software that, as New York Attorney General, Spitzer himself lobbied it have beefed up and installed in all financial institutions in New York.
His transfers raised suspicions which lead to the Escort Service and ultimately right back to the Governor.
All school leavers could be asked to swear an oath to the Queen. School-leavers should be encouraged to swear an oath of allegiance to Queen and country, says a report commissioned by Gordon Brown on British citizenship. source BBC News
What a downright insult! How much more like America do they want us to be
and we are not citizens we are subjects as we are a monarcy! So Gordon Brown, put that in your pipe an smoke it.
I knew Mark Steel wont miss this subject
When Tony Blair and Gordon Brown launched the idea of New Labour, it was as a crusade to be modern...
And they ended up so modern they gave the job of reviewing British citizenship to Lord Goldsmith, who's concluded everyone should undergo a ceremony in which they pledge an oath of allegiance to the Queen. This is so advanced the rest of Europe only abandoned it 200 years ago. So there are probably other bits of his report, not yet published, which go: "Loyal British citizenship will be enhanced by dismantling the system of local government, and replacing it with a network of barons. A sense of modern national unity will be advanced if citizens, who shall also be known as 'serfs', kneel before them on the third Sunday of each month and offer them their wives as chattel. This measure, I feel, should bring about a rapid decrease in the practice of city centre binge-drinking."
One of the questions in the British Citizenship test asks what you should do in the event of someone spilling your drink in the pub. So from now on the correct answer will be: "Challenge them to a duel."
So maybe the boys will have lessons in subjects such as being sexually attracted to Helen Mirren. And teachers will say: "We're very lucky today because Mrs Mirren has kindly agreed to sit at the front of the class for us so off you go. Come on Jenkins, start tingling boy, and Walcott, let's have a bit of drooling shall we, this is a national treasure, surely the odd slobber isn't too much to ask."
Americans,..
But their pledge is to a set of ideas on which the country was founded
Anyway, the thing is we just don't do oaths and pledges of allegiance because they're not British. And anyone who says otherwise should be told they've failed the test, don't understand our culture and have to go and live somewhere else.
The funny thing is, the Governor was caught because of banking software that tracks all money transfers to look for money laundering. Software that, as New York Attorney General, Spitzer himself lobbied it have beefed up and installed in all financial institutions in New York.
His transfers raised suspicions which lead to the Escort Service and ultimately right back to the Governor.
I am sure you are dying to learn who 'Mr and Mrs Slimming World 2008.'
Here we go Darren Starling Michelle (39) and Andy (46) Smith from Kirkby, Nottinghamshire who have lost over 13 stone together to be crowned Mr and Mrs Slimming World 2008.
Spitzer stepped down amid a call-girl scandal that made a mockery of his straight-arrow image and left him facing the prospect of criminal charges and perhaps disbarment. Paterson takes over Monday, and requested the time lag so he could prepare and so Spitzer could say a proper goodbye to his staff.
Lawmakers embrace new order
Spitzer and his successor have starkly different leadership styles. While Spitzer was famously abrasive, uncompromising and even insulting, Paterson has built a reputation as a conciliator, and lawmakers quickly embraced the new order.
Barely known outside his Harlem political base, Paterson, 53, has been in New York government since his election to the state Senate in 1985. Though legally blind, he has enough sight in his right eye to walk unaided, recognize people at conversational distance and even read if the text is placed close to his face.
Paterson said he had spoken to Spitzer. “I just told him how sorry I was this happened and how much he still inspires me,†Paterson said.
Of Spitzer’s disclosures and resignation, Paterson said: “I’m getting over it.â€
Spitzer resigned Wednesday, making an announcement without securing a plea bargain with federal prosecutors, though a law enforcement official said the former governor was still believed to be negotiating one. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.
“I cannot allow my private failings to disrupt the people’s work,†Spitzer said at a Manhattan news conference, his weary-looking wife, Silda, again standing at his side as he answered for his actions for the second time in three days.
Crusader brought down by sex scandal
The resignation brought down the curtain on a riveting drama — played out, sometimes, as farce — that made Spitzer an instant punchline on late-night TV and fascinated Americans with the spectacle of a crusading politician exposed as a hypocrite.
The scandal erupted Monday after federal law enforcement officials disclosed that a wiretap had caught the 48-year-old father of three teenage daughters arranging to spend thousands of dollars on a call girl at a fancy Washington hotel on the night before Valentine’s Day.
Investigators said he had arranged for a prostitute named Kristen to take the train down from New York while he was in the nation’s capital to testify before a congressional subcommittee about the bond industry.
The New York Times reported Wednesday that the woman, born as Ashley Youmans, legally changed her name to Ashley Rae Maika DiPietro and is now known as Ashley Alexandra Dupre. She declined comment when asked by the Times when she first met Spitzer and how many times they had been together.
It was unclear whether she would face charges; attorney Don D. Buchwald confirmed that he represents the same woman in the Times story but wouldn’t comment further.
Law enforcement officials said the governor had hired prostitutes several times before and had spent tens of thousands of dollars, and perhaps as much as $80,000, on the high-priced escort service Emperors Club VIP, whose women charge as much as $5,500 an hour.
Spitzer not charged, future unclear
After making a watery-eyed, nonspecific public apology Monday with his wife by his side, Spitzer continued to talk to family and advisers through Tuesday. By Wednesday morning, aides said, he had decided to resign.
In a statement issued after Spitzer quit, U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia, the chief federal prosecutor in New York, said: “There is no agreement between this office and Gov. Eliot Spitzer relating to his resignation or any other matter.â€
Among the possible charges that law enforcement authorities said could be brought against the former governor: soliciting and paying for sex; violating the Mann Act, the 1910 federal law that makes it a crime to take someone across state lines for immoral purposes; and illegally arranging cash transactions to conceal their purpose.
Spitzer could also be disbarred. In New York, an attorney can lose his license to practice law for failing to “conduct himself both professionally and personally, in conformity with the standards of conduct imposed upon members of the bar.â€
It was a spectacular collapse for a man who cultivated an image as a hard-nosed politician hell-bent on cleansing the state of corruption. He served two terms as New York attorney general, earning the nickname “Sheriff of Wall Street,†and was elected governor with a record share of the vote in 2006. The tall, athletic, square-jawed Spitzer was sometimes mentioned as a potential candidate for president.
There's chemical evidence: sensation seekers have lower levels of monoamine oxidase A, which regulates the brain's levels of dopamine, the "pleasure" neurotransmitter.
Risk Rules! Sensation seekers don't just lust after things--they take them, often disregarding the risks that block their way. "When you're dealing with these high-level, in-your-face, go-for-everything guys, you're dealing with people who take a lot of risks.
He's Hormonal. Alpha males are high on testosterone, the hormone that underlies almost all the typical traits of the politico-sexual animal: high levels of testosterone make for a high sex drive, a love of risks, aggressiveness and competitiveness. "These people have a strong need to win at games, which is obviously important in power politics," says Zuckerman. Success sends their testosterone spiraling up, while a loss brings the levels down—a phenomenon that's been documented in the lab as well as in athletes and chess champions.
Balloon Dresses
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Designers have come up with some eye-popping dresses that are made entirely from balloons. Each dress consists of around 300 modelling balloons twisted together and took about ten hours to make. Most of the balloons are 60 inches long and either one or two inches thick. Balloon artist Katie Laibstain, 23, has sold some of her designs for as much as £1,000, even though they are likely to be wearable once only. Fellow balloon artist Steven Jones, 39, said his purple and gold dress took nearly 10 hours to make 'with an additional one and half hours to get the young lady in the piece'.
Spitzer, a moral crusader who humbly announced his resignation days ago, effective Monday, could face other charges too, including soliciting and paying for sex, and illegally arranging cash transactions to conceal their purpose.
"If he's prosecuted under the Mann Act, it's because of who he is rather than what he did," Langum said. "Because he's the governor of New York and because he was a hard-liner on crime."
The act, named for Illinois Congressman James Robert Mann, grew out of hysteria during the turn of the last century over fears that immigrant men were abducting white women and girls who were leaving rural farm areas to work in cities, and forcing them into prostitution, historians said
At last, the EuP has been taken against Chinese oil giant PetroChina/ CNPC. It has sold it's shares in the company.
The European Parliament has disinvested in a firm accused of being one of the chief bankrollers of the Sudanese regime's military campaign in Darfur after pressure from MEPs and human rights activists.
A man and woman loved their dogs so much, that when they brushed them they saved their fur. In fact they saved so much, that when the dogs died, they decided to have the fur spun, make jumpers and wear their dogs with pride!
A career crimial was imprisioned for around 12 burglaries. Enough one might think, but he had a sudden guilty conscious (so the do gooders will tell you) and called police to his prision cell where he subsequently confessed to a further 305 burglaries. So for several weeks he was taken around his area by police and he duly showed them exactly where he burgled, including details of how he broke in and what he stole! He was taken to court again and the judge gave him just another two months on his sentance, to the outrage of those whose property he had burgled. The judge was astounded by his memory.
Now I can hear you saying 'well done chap', but when you admit to further crimes in prison you cannot be taken to court again when you are released and effectively come out with a clean slate. He sounds like one clever dude to me!
Five years ago, on the evening of 19 March 2003, President George Bush appeared on American television to say that military action had started against Iraq.
Ghost flights are an outrage! Empty planes fly long haul! My "favourite" airline BA and still waiting for my compensation for being denyed boarding from Ankara to Heathrow 7 months later!
Eggis of Evil
advert by Nulaid eggs from South Africa
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What better way to promote eggs than use terrorists and despots? The Jupiter Drawing Room came up with these images to promote South African egg producer Nulaid. The eggs depicting Kim Jong Il, Hitler and Bin Laden make up the Eggis of Evil
US troops continue to face attacks from Sunni and Shia fighters as the war enters its sixth year
The death toll of US military in Iraq has passed 4,000 after the US Central Command announced that four more troops had died in an attack.
The soldiers were killed on Sunday by a roadside bomb during a patrol in southern Baghdad, the military said on Monday.
At least 50 Iraqis, most of them civilians, also died on Sunday in violence including bomb blasts and shootings.
In the most deadly attack, 13 Iraqi soldiers were killed when a suicide bomber drove a vehicle packed with explosives into a security checkpoint in the northern city of Mosul.
Conflict rages
More than 29,000 American soldiers have been wounded after years of conflict in Iraq, according to the icasualties.org website, which also carried the 4,000-strong US death toll.
The death toll is still considerably smaller than the number of Iraqis who have died in the conflict.
After five years, was the Iraq war worth it?
"It has been left to journalists and academics to try and estimate the number that have died. Estimates vary from 89,000 on the lowest side to the highest figure that I have heard - which is one million," James Bays, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Baghdad, said.
"When you speak to an Iraqi who has stayed here in this country throughout the last five years, everyone knows someone who has died, and most families have lost a family member."
At least 97 per cent of the US military deaths came after George Bush, the US president, announced the end of "major combat" in Iraq on May 1, 2003.
Facing violence
Since the US military toppled Saddam Hussein, Iraq's president, it has faced a violent anti-occupation campaign and witnessed violence between the country's sectarian communities.
"No casualty is more or less significant than another; each soldier, marine, airman and sailor is equally precious and their loss equally tragic," Rear Admiral Gregory Smith, US military spokesman in Baghdad, said of the losses.
"Being in the military means we are willingly in harm's way to protect others in order to bring hope and a sustainable security to the Iraqi people."
The milestone death toll comes day after Bush defended his decision to invade Iraq, saying the US would remain in Iraq and promising American soldiers that they would emerge victorious.
'Far from over'
Hoda Abdel Hamid, Al Jazeera's Iraq correspondent, said the high death toll showed that the conflict had not been fully contained by the US.
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The impact of the US death toll on military families
"The Bush administration keeps saying that things are getting better and better. Reaching such a milestone is a reminder that the war is far from over in Iraq," she said.
"We are at a transition period. Despite the fact that the surge is working, despite the fact that the violence has dropped ... things could get much worse underground."
Abdel Hamid said that the "surge" could not work effectively unless it was accompanied by national reconciliation of Iraq's sectarian communities.
Cause of deaths
More than 80 per cent of soldiers killed have died in attacks by al-Qaeda in Iraq, Sunni and Shia fighters, icasualties.org said.
The remainder died in non-combat related incidents.
Around 40 per cent of those killed were struck by roadside bombs, according to the website, making these weapons the main cause of fatalities.
For the US army, 2007 was the deadliest year,
when it lost 901 soldiers in Iraq [AFP]
Small-arms fire was the second biggest killer, the website said, with helicopter crashes, ambushes, rocket attacks and suicide bombings also the cause of many deaths.
The deadliest year for the military in Iraq was 2007 when it lost 901 troops, the icasualties.org website figures said.
This figure compares with 486 deaths in 2003, the first year of the conflict, 849 in 2004, 846 in 2005 and 822 in 2006. Since the start of 2008, 96 soldiers have died.
Vietnam has been the deadliest war for the US military, apart from the two world wars, with 58,000 soldiers killed between 1964 and 1973, an average of 26 a day.
On average, just over two US soldiers die each day in Iraq.
'Surge' debate
American soldiers in Iraq interviewed by news agencies said that while they were sad about the losses, the conflict was justified.
"It's sad that the number is that high. It makes you wonder if there is a different way of approaching things. Nobody likes to hear that number," said senior Airman Preston Reeves, 26, from Birmingham, Alabama.
"Every one of those people signed up voluntarily and it's a shame that that happens, but tragedies do happen in war.
"It's a shame you don't get support from your own country, when all they want you to do is leave Iraq and all these people will have died in vain."
Withdrawal calls
Against the backdrop of the rising US military death toll, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, Democratic candidates for the 2008 presidential nomination, are calling for the withdrawal of troops.
Clinton has said that she may consider pulling troops out of the country after 60 days, she should win the nomination and the presidency.
But John McCain, who is set to become the Republican candidate in the presidential race, has advocated US soldiers remaining in Iraq.
McCain remains a strong supporter of Bush's controversial "surge", which saw 30,000 extra soldiers deployed in an attempt to improve security in Iraq.
Ever thought about cheering up a sick relative in hospital by bringing in their pets?
A Hawaiian man did just that, thought tha he would brighten the day of his sick relative but............
A Hawaiian hospital has restated its rules on pets after a man took a horse up in a lift in a bid to cheer up a sick relative with his favourite steed.
Man and beast were stopped by security guards only after reaching the third floor, after apparently passing through the lobby unchallenged.
The patient was allowed to see them but it turned out to be the wrong horse.
snow on second Easter day..more like xmas mood not easter..ehhhhhhhhhh
Poor thing....the kids all went swimming after our Easter Egg Hunt yesterday....It's good to be in sunny Texas!!
i want to Texas,at least back to Spain.....but every cloud has its silver lining..we call it drink weather... bars and pubs weather...ahhh...Polish romanticism...
World Water Day (I never knew there was one)
http://www.worldwaterday.org
And gaza again
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March 22, 2008, Khan Younis, Gaza Strip, Palestinian Territories: Palestinians fill their bottles with potable water at the only water purification station in Khan Younis, northern Gaza Strip. In the Occasion of the World Day for Water approved March 22, Palestinians still suffer from lack of potable water and resort to water purification stations for transport their needing of safe drinking water
Vienna - One motorist was killed and 37 other persons injured in a mass pile-up on the Vienna-Salzburg motorway amid heavy snowfalls on Tuesday, police officials said. The accident took place on the stretch between Seewalch and St. Georgen on a highway covered in ice from a winter storm which struck the European continent.
The person killed was a woman from Switzerland who was hurled from her car in the collision and then run over by a lorry, officials said.
The autobahn, or motorway, was closed in both directions as rescue efforts involving dozens of ambulances and helicopters got underway. The efforts were hampered by ongoing heavy snowfall and poor visibility.
Officials also revised downwards the numbers of injured and the vehicles involved once they had a better assessment of the scene where dozens of cars had smashed into and piled atop each other in a scene of chaos.
Initial reports had spoken of at least 60 injured and upwards of 100 cars.
Police cited not only the slippery road conditions and poor visibility, but also blamed motorists for driving too fast, as factors in the mass collision.
Meanhwile, parts of Austria have been hit by harsh winter again. Meteorological services in Tyrol warned of "deep wintry conditions" and the danger of avalanches has increased dramatically in the Austrian Alps.
At least 20 centimetres of new snow were measured in west and north Tyrol and up to a half metre of snowfall was expected by Tuesday evening. The latest snowfall has led to mass traffic delays on several roads.
Five centimetres of snow fell in valleys across Salzburg state and up to 30 centimetres have been forecast for Wednesday.
The avalanche warning service has raised the risk of avalanches to "high" in areas where they have been particularly heavy falls of new snow namely in Silvretta, Arlberg/Ausserfern, the Northern Alps and the Kitzbuehler Alpen. The Salzburger Land region was also in danger of avalanches.
Avalanches were to be expected because of the weight of the new snow.
Have the thread statistics been changed? I'm sure it used to show the number of viewings a thread had as well as the number of replies.
Oh.... Thank you queen I'll inform the right people...
Well of course it doesn't matter, I just wondered if I was imagining it. Queen? hmmmmm queen . . . queen . . . What's wrong with plain old Karpus , or should it be Karpuz?
copy these cordinations and paste on 'Fly To' on google earth program. you can see a very interesting object. ( dont forget to make zoom )
they positions are in West of Romania, southeast of Timisoara..
first ufo direction: 45 42'12.16'N 21 18'7.20'E
second ufo direction: 45 42'2.49'N 21 15'49.35'E
picture is here:
arthur c ,clark the author of space oddessey2002 used to say"either we are alone in space or not,both possibilities r equally terryfing"
sorry,laptop keybord...cannot get used to it))))
MESSENGERS FROM GOD
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Asieh, a rat child,with her sisters at their house in a village near Gujrat. Asieh is a 9 year old girl living with her family. One of her brothers and one of her sisters have died from the same condition a few years ago. In Pakistan, children afflicted with a condition known as microcephaly, stemming from a variety of possible factors, have a distinctly smaller head and receding forehead. Known as rat children, in this society they are considered closer to God, or messengers
OCTOPUSHY
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Underwater hockey (also called Octopush) is a non-contact sport in which two teams compete to maneuver a puck across the bottom of a swimming pool into goals. This pictures are about the only amateur portuguese underwater hockey team who is training to the european championship in Turkey
Kamaiya
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Kalali region, November 2007 à Tharu ethnic group is subjected to a terrible kind of slavery named Kamaiya. The kamaiya is a slave, or forced worker, who had to subdue to one or more ÒmastersÓ in order to pay for a debt, even if a small one. As debts do not come to an end with the debtorÕs death, the condition of kamaiya is inherited for generations from father to son, from an individual to a whole family
GIANT PANDAS MATE AT A CHINESE ZOO (around 10am on the 29th March!!!)
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Two Giant pandas Qing Qing, male, and Ying Ying, female, make love at the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center in Wolong, southwest Chinas Sichuan province on the 29th March 2008. 11-year-old male giant panda Qing Qing and 17-year-old female giant panda Ying Ying started to mate around 10am on the 29th March. It took them 2 minutes and 9 seconds to finish the mating, according to the timing made by Tang Chunxiang, a researcher of the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center. Tang said giant pandas have very selective on mating. The researchers of the center will perform an artificial insemination on Ying Ying to make sure that she will be pregnant
GIANT PANDAS MATE AT A CHINESE ZOO (around 10am on the 29th March!!!)
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Two Giant pandas Qing Qing, male, and Ying Ying, female, make love at the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center in Wolong, southwest Chinas Sichuan province on the 29th March 2008. 11-year-old male giant panda Qing Qing and 17-year-old female giant panda Ying Ying started to mate around 10am on the 29th March. It took them 2 minutes and 9 seconds to finish the mating, according to the timing made by Tang Chunxiang, a researcher of the Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center. Tang said giant pandas have very selective on mating. The researchers of the center will perform an artificial insemination on Ying Ying to make sure that she will be pregnant
That was my wedding anniversary....it's been defiled!! YUCK!
It sounds like the news of April fool´s day,but it is not.
The news made my day.
The policeman on duty running after shoplifters,in his uniform ,totally armed ,caught them after 50 m having wonderful sprint time.
It would not be funny if the shoplifters(stealing sweets by the way)were not representatives of national athlete team in dash.
Happened in Poland.
Well,either we have such good policemen or such bad athletes
Colony of flying penguins has been discoverd in the antarctic and a film documentary has been made. This is a 90 mininte film, but just so you can get the feel of it, I posted the BBC link.
Colony of flying penguins has been discoverd in the antarctic and a film documentary has been made. This is a 90 mininte film, but just so you can get the feel of it, I posted the BBC link.
PM leaps to defence of immigrants after Lords claim they do nothing for Britain
Mr Brown told his monthly press conference that migration had added £6bn to the economy and was a "substantial income".
Most British businesses that have faced labour shortages had benefited from being able to recruit more widely for skilled labour, he added.
he said gross domestic product per head had risen since 1997 from £13,900 to £22,840 in the past year. He said a cap on immigrants could be applied only to those outside the EU. "Most people who are proposing a cap are proposing a cap of only 20 per cent of possible migrants," he said. "Many of these people are the highly skilled workers who are important to the economy."
PM leaps to defence of immigrants after Lords claim they do nothing for Britain
Mr Brown told his monthly press conference that migration had added £6bn to the economy and was a "substantial income".
Most British businesses that have faced labour shortages had benefited from being able to recruit more widely for skilled labour, he added.
he said gross domestic product per head had risen since 1997 from £13,900 to £22,840 in the past year. He said a cap on immigrants could be applied only to those outside the EU. "Most people who are proposing a cap are proposing a cap of only 20 per cent of possible migrants," he said. "Many of these people are the highly skilled workers who are important to the economy."
The new points based system being introduced into the UK to stem the flow of migrants will only affect those from outside the EEA countries. At first they have introduced Tier 1 in February, and this will affect highly skilled workers, such as doctors, dentist, Civil Engineers etc etc. They will need to be able to accumulate 75 points and that is based on salary, level of English and education. It only extends as far as India at the moment, but will be introduced to the rest of the world by the end of the year.
In the following years, Tier 2, for skilled workers, again on salary and education levels.
Tier 3 will be where it really hits, non-skilled workers, and those that will be affected most will the food industry, such as Indian, Chinese and Turkish restaurants. When it comes time to re-aply for visa's this system will come into play. It is already affecting Philipino nurses, lured to the UK a few years ago to fill gaps in nursing. Now they are being sent home as they don't meet the new requirements.
Immigration will still take place in the EEA countries but the Poles are already turning back being lured by a better economy and higher standard of living (than previous) in Poland.
Immigration will still take place in the EEA countries but the Poles are already turning back being lured by a better economy and higher standard of living (than previous) in Poland.
I wouldn't count on that, what is happening is the exchange of labour-force. The Poles that came over there a few years ago earned what they needed and now they're coming back to work out a pension at home. New ones will come for sure. I remember from my teaching days at a secondary school that most of my students' short-term plan was to go to the UK or ROI for a couple of years.
Economy in Poland might be better, still, there's no chance to make as much as in the UK when you're a blue-collar worker. The prices, on the other hand, are similar. E.g. if you want to buy a flat you'll have to pay from 1130 - 2700 pounds per square metre ($ 2230-5400 ) while the average income is 340 pounds/month net ($700 )...
Immigration will still take place in the EEA countries but the Poles are already turning back being lured by a better economy and higher standard of living (than previous) in Poland.
I wouldn't count on that, what is happening is the exchange of labour-force. The Poles that came over there a few years ago earned what they needed and now they're coming back to work out a pension at home. New ones will come for sure. I remember from my teaching days at a secondary school that most of my students' short-term plan was to go to the UK or ROI for a couple of years.
Economy in Poland might be better, still, there's no chance to make as much as in the UK when you're a blue-collar worker. The prices, on the other hand, are similar. E.g. if you want to buy a flat you'll have to pay from 1130 - 2700 pounds per square metre ($ 2230-5400 ) while the average income is 340 pounds/month net ($700 )...
I am referring more to the construction industry where there is a definite shift. With the EURO2012 construction in Warsaw, then we are seeing construction workers returning and a definite drop in those coming. There is strong competition for construction workers here because it coincides with the Olympic development and other major construction work. Interesting times ahead I think! btw Poles are hard workers and put many of our Brits to shame!
heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities
heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities
I have also heard that it will be Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turks (on good authority!)
heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities
I have also heard that it will be Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turks (on good authority!)
heheh you've got a point there, there's plenty of construction work getting ready for Euro 2012. I've heard on the news it's going to be Chinese workers and Ukrainian ones who'll build us sports facilities
I have also heard that it will be Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turks (on good authority!)
Really? That's great
Yes and I have had to turn down a project which would have meant I would have to come to Turkey!
Now we have hijacked the thread, so this is my last post on the subject!
We have a nice little law in the UK which makes sexual harrassment illegal (fair enough!) and as from Sunday, it will be the reponsibility of bar owers/managers to protect their staff against sexual harrassment from customers. If they fail to do so then the employee will be able to take their employer to employment tribunal.
So we wait in anticipation for the first £2m law suit on sexual harrassment of bar staff!
Surely it goes with the territory and if you are not strong enough to deal with it, then why work in a bar in the first place?
Yours truely
Mrs Not very sympathetic and Britain really has gone bonkers
We have a nice little law in the UK which makes sexual harrassment illegal (fair enough!) and as from Sunday, it will be the reponsibility of bar owers/managers to protect their staff against sexual harrassment from customers. If they fail to do so then the employee will be able to take their employer to employment tribunal.
So we wait in anticipation for the first £2m law suit on sexual harrassment of bar staff!
Surely it goes with the territory and if you are not strong enough to deal with it, then why work in a bar in the first place?
Yours truely
Mrs Not very sympathetic and Britain really has gone bonkers
LL does this apply to strip clubs too??? Seems like there will be an awful lot of lawsuits coming up!
lots and lots of snow. Its supposed to be spring!!!!
Over 80 cm of snow in 2 days this weekend.
A tiny request. Next time you sweep your porch please don't do it eastwards if you're in the US or westwards if you're in Turkey. The snow you sweep away gets to Ireland! And I have just made a nice bed of plants
Diesel Fumes Help Clog Arteries
Researchers track the way particles trigger inflammation
By Ed Edelson
Posted 7/26/07
THURSDAY, July 26 (HealthDay News) -- Scientists say they've spotted the biochemical process that makes diesel exhaust so dangerous to human arteries.
An interaction between the fine particles found in diesel exhaust and the fatty acids in LDL ("bad") cholesterol activates genes that then cause inflammation in blood vessels, a team from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) report.
This process accelerates atherosclerosis -- a buildup of fatty deposits that can eventually lead to complete vessel blockage, according to the study in the July 26 online issue of Genome Biology.
The mechanism is one key way that "chemicals in diesel exhaust impact the cardiovascular system," said Dr. Andre Nel, chief of nanomedicine at the UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine. "We have done an analysis of genes that respond to those chemicals in synergy with the components of bad cholesterol."
LDL cholesterol is usually described as the bad kind because it is involved in blood vessel damage, in contrast to "good" HDL cholesterol, which works to prevent such damage.
In a series of studies, the UCLA scientists combined particulate diesel pollutants with fatty acids found in LDL cholesterol, studying their interactions with free radicals -- highly reactive molecules that can damage cells. They exposed cells to this mixture and then extracted genetic material from those cells.
Genes that promote cellular inflammation were found to be highly activated in those cells. Inflammation is well known as a contributor to atherosclerosis, Nel said.
"The primary implication of our finding is that for people who have cardiovascular risk factors such as high blood cholesterol, simultaneous exposure to diesel air pollution can enhance damage by enhancing inflammation in the cardiovascular system," Nel said.
The UCLA research team now is working to develop a test, such as measurement of a protein produced in response to air pollution, that could be used to assess the safety of people working or living in areas with different levels of pollution, he said.
Nel's work is an important part of ongoing research on the damaging molecular effects of air pollution from diesel and other sources, said Dr. John Balbus, chief of health sciences of Environmental Defense, a watchdog group.
"There have been lots of studies of inflammation," Balbus said. "This one goes down to the genetic level, and finds a pattern of gene expression that is particularly associated with diesel exhaust."
While such laboratory work has been going over for the past five to 10 years, epidemiological studies have also tightened the link between cardiovascular risk and exposure to pollutants, Balbus said. He cited a recent German study that found that living near a major source of pollution, such as a highway, was associated with a higher incidence of atherosclerosis.
"That was observational data in real people," he said. "When you put that together with the laboratory work, you have a very convincing picture."
"This study is more evidence of why we need to become more aggressive in cleaning up existing diesel engines," said Frank O'Donnell, director of Clean Air Watch, a private organization.
Chances that diesel engines will be used as commonly in the United States as in Europe, where they are found in many cars, are slim, because U.S. pollution standards are tougher, O'Donnell said.
"The real big problem remains the many thousands of diesel engines in construction equipment, old trucks and buses," he said. "The biggest bang for the buck would come from cleaning up existing diesel engines."
Ouch! There must be something going on in India, I've recently read about an Indian girl who underwent an operation because well..check out yourselves:
only curious why this is significant in his country?
Are you referring to the politician who's admitted to having 30 partners?
30 Partners!!!!! Bloomin' excessive if you ask me. His admitting to it seems a tad stupid too, given he's a politician . . . everyone knows all politicians have something to hide anyway
Ouch! There must be something going on in India, I've recently read about an Indian girl who underwent an operation because well..check out yourselves
This is another case..
I saw this in morning news a couple of days ago; It impressed me a lot. I respect other people's beliefs but how can they believe these kind of things are "miracles"?
Stolen artefacts from Turkey Artifacts stolen from Turkish mosques between 2002 & 2003 were officially handed back to Turkey today at The turkish Embassy London, after an on going investigation by the Metropolitan Police - Art & Antiques Unit & Turkish Interpol.
Istanbul Cezeri Kasim Pasa Mosque Tile Panel,Amasya Mehmet Pasa Mosque Minbar Door Wings,Istanbul Yeni Mosque Huner Kasr tile Panels
I wonder to what extent can artists use their right to shock and where the boundary between an art statement and a mere provocation lies...If I hang dead human foetuses on a line to make people think about the interaction of life and death will that make me an artist or a provider for deviated minds?
Can someone tell me what the last three posts are referring to? Obviously not thehandsom's last post but the thread is too long for me to wade through and look for it! (just out of curiosity following the three comments)
caption reads:
Pictured is Elena the goat on the 6th April 2008. A luckless Bulgarian farmer who was been married three times has now married his goat. Stoil Panayotov, exchanged his third wife with Elena the 8-year-old goat at a livestock market in March - because she couldn't provide him with a child. The extraordinary deal was concluded in front of a stunned crowd in the market town of Plovdiv, central Bulgaria.
Pictured is Stoil Panayotov on the 6th April 2008.
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ps..up to here, the story is a true story..
But with an impeccable journalism, I managed to find below picture as well.
now that I mentioned the word "inflatable" It reminded me of an ad I saw in a website about "inflatable male dolls". Sorry, but due to the content of such site, I cant provide the source link
"Don't you wish that you could inflate and deflate a man at will? It would be so much more convenient if you could just make a husband appear and disappear whenever you want. Do you want the windows washed? Inflate him. Want the bed to yourself? Deflate him. Need a date for a company event? Inflate a man with a tuxedo. Need the lawn mowed and the bushes trimmed? Inflate a man with a toolbelt. Life would be so easy!!"
ohh sure!! who doesnt?? that is why I am placing my order right now
Red Ken vs blue Boris/ Ken vs Blond Bombshell for LONDON mayor.
I am voting for Ken but Here are some gaffes from Boris:
I am polymorphous pervert
Mr Johnson told a fringe meeting he would ban sweets in schools, but added: "If I was in charge I would get rid of Jamie Oliver and tell people to eat what they like." He said: "Mothers have been driven to pushing pies through fences. The solution is not to provide healthy stuff."
He later claimed he had been misinterpreted and thought Mr Oliver was "a national saint". "The BBC are completely wrong," he said, adding: "What I said was 'let them eat liver and bacon'."
told a fringe meeting safety seats for children in cars were "utterly demented", adding: "When I was growing up we all bounced around like peas in a rattle - did it do us any harm?"
"As a Scot, Gordon Brown will find it hard to convince people in England he should be prime minister."
"Supposing Tower Hamlets or parts of Bradford were to become governed by religious zealots believing in that system. Are we ready for complete autonomy if it means sharia law? I believe we should make people feel more British first, before encouraging more balkanisation and multiculturalism."
In a Daily Telegraph column, he wrote: "For 10 years we in the Tory Party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing, and so it is with a happy amazement that we watch as the madness engulfs the Labour Party."
Papua New Guinea's high commissioner in London was not best pleased by this comparison and demanded an apology.
Mr Johnson obliged, saying: "I meant no insult to the people of Papua New Guinea who I'm sure lead lives of blameless bourgeois domesticity in common with the rest of us."
He promised to "add Papua New Guinea to my global itinerary of apology".
Mr Johnson annoyed Portsmouth councillors by calling the city "one of the most depressed towns in southern England, a place that is arguably too full of drugs, obesity, underachievement and Labour MPs", in an article for the men's magazine GQ.
They demanded he apologise and visit the city. But the Conservative Party said figures backed Mr Johnson's comments and politicians should not criticise him for speaking the truth.
What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!
What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!
A friend of mine's son is in the Ana Sınıfı (like pre-school) at the local school and the mothers are given a weekly list of exactly what to put in their children's lunch packs!! Not sure if this is to avoid jealousy or to ensure they eat healthily! But I don't know if this is the custom all over Turkey or just something they do in this particular school
however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!
Well, Lis lets not forget that there lots of mothers who really don’t know how to feed their children and they let them eat all those goodies they love. I don’t let my son drink sodas either, especially if it is Coke..he knows he cant drink it unless he has my permission. But honestly, I see many mothers letting their kids eat so much junk…which really makes me upset sometimes, but what can I do? I can’t tell these mothers how to feed their children. So maybe they do this at school as a general reminder..not exactly directed to you
What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!
First they are telling you how to dress your child, now they are telling you how to feed your child? What's next???
How did your meeting with the principal go by the way?
What caught my eye????? Handsom's post about politicians in London....it reminded me of a note that my son's school sent home, reminding the parents not to send their children to school with Coca Cola in thier lunches. I don't usually let my son drink soda...however, something in me gets irritated when schools tell me how to feed my child!
First they are telling you how to dress your child, now they are telling you how to feed your child? What's next???
How did your meeting with the principal go by the way?
My meeting with "the Man" went as expected. I told them what I thought and they told me that they understood....something about the greater good, blah blah blah....I basically just wasted my time but at least I got to vent a little! As for the Coke issue....I just feel like if you have something to say to certain parents, say it to certain parents. There is not need to be so passive aggressive and send out a note to every parent like we are all idiots! See, now I vented again....and I feel better...THANKS!!
GG - how about that David Cook last night on AI....WOW!
GG - how about that David Cook last night on AI....WOW!
Offffffffffff!!! I missed Idol last night! I had a study group and when I got home, I found that my DVR had not recorded it (insert 'discussion' with my husband about changing the DVR settings when it comes to AI ).
I'm going to have to catch up with everything on YouTube sometime today.
Popeye the Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog who was trapped in a bag of ready-to eat spinach on 15th April 2008. A Queensland woman who had bought a bag of pre-mixed spinach, from a shop near Queensland's Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, discovered the frog hiding in the sealed bag when she arrived home. She opened the bag and rushed him to the Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Community hospital, Where he was dubbed Popeye
View of Longtanhe River Bridge (or Longtan River Bridge) under construction in Langping Town, Changyang county, Yichang city, central Chinas Hubei province 14 April 2008. Longtanhe River Bridge (or Longtan River Bridge) is a high-rise pier, long-span continuous rigid-frame bridge with its highest pier up to 178 m on the Yichang-Enshi Section (within Hubei boundaries) of the arterial line of the National Road from Shanghai to Chengdu. The construction of the 1,360m-long and 196m-high bridge started in June 2004 and the time of completion has not been confirmed.
It wasn't the same as being together, but it was definitely intimate. I can see the advantage for couples in long-distance relationships. Absence may make the heart grow fonder, but it's a strain on the organs further south.
Popeye the Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog who was trapped in a bag of ready-to eat spinach on 15th April 2008. A Queensland woman who had bought a bag of pre-mixed spinach, from a shop near Queensland's Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, discovered the frog hiding in the sealed bag when she arrived home. She opened the bag and rushed him to the Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Community hospital, Where he was dubbed Popeye
Popeye the Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog who was trapped in a bag of ready-to eat spinach on 15th April 2008. A Queensland woman who had bought a bag of pre-mixed spinach, from a shop near Queensland's Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary, discovered the frog hiding in the sealed bag when she arrived home. She opened the bag and rushed him to the Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Community hospital, Where he was dubbed Popeye
Cool, you get extra meat free of charge
Thank you handsom....I don't want to eat beef because of mad cow disease....I don't want to eat chicken because of the way they treat chickens....don't want to eat fish because of mercury poisoning...I don't care for lamb, Pork is out in my house..........NOW YOU HAVE PUT ME OFF OF SALAD TOO??? There isn't anything left!
Pope Benedict XVI, the Bavarian Conservative Joseph Ratzinger, arrived in the USA today asking forgiveness for the pedophiles in the repressed ranks of the Church he largely fashioned: the reactionary, retrograde and still restive Roman Catholic Church. In America, as in Italy, in the world, his message is a return to the obscurantism of a bureaucratic religious order and more temporal power as seen in the Roman Church’s battle against divorce, birth control, abortion, euthanasia, stem cell research, same sex marriage and women’s rights. Centered on opposition to Islam, his major thrust today is the primacy of religion over the secular and its centrality in the roots of Europe.
(Rome) After a short stay in America some decades ago I told a German friend how glad I was to be back in Europe. He wagged his finger and said, “Ah, you Americans, you speak of Europe as if it were one place. Europeans think in terms of nations, of Germany or France or Italy.†Those were two opposed concepts of Europe. It really was that way once.
“Where are you vacationing this year?â€
“Oh, we thought we’d go over to Europe … see the Old World.â€
In those times I was a supporter of the still dreamy idea of European unity. But today I’m repenting. Not that I believe that old times are necessarily better times. But in this case I miss those old borders and nationalities each with its own culture, its own economy and I often wish that Europe was still a continent of separate, variegated and distinct lands and peoples instead of the globalized multinationalandia it is becoming … or has become.
Although many of the national differences remain, it is now quite proper to speak of “Europe†as foreign visitors once did. Today it’s truer than ever before that sometimes the non-European visitor can’t even tell one country from the other. The old tourist joke still holds: It’s Wednesday, so we must be in Vienna.
But Europe is not the European Union its dreamers-founders imagined. Not at all. Though it is a curious sensation to use one currency from the Baltic to the Mediterranean, to cross borders without a passport and drive from Rome to Amsterdam without international insurance, and in a way feel a certain sense of pride in belonging to a big idea, I fear the best of United Europe is in the past and that the worst is yet to come. For the present union is not the “Europe of peoples†dreamers dreamed of, but a union of multinationals and Eurocrats.
So how did it happen that the dream was shattered? How did it come about that the European dream—like the American dream—from day to day, from year to year, is more and more a contorted ungraspable nightmare for many of its peoples?
Their leaden feet dragging as if they were emerging from a coma, schizophrenic Europeans, overnight morphed into bewildered Europeanists, are suddenly wondering who they are. Though they admit that they are still first of all Italians or Spanish, or Germans or French, willy-nilly they have become Europeans, too.
That duality creates confusion, often more social divergence than political unity.
Now, Europeanist leaders striving for unity and Europeans of diverse political shades and nationalities, of differing levels of economic and social-political development are engaged in a search of an identity.
In a sudden obsession with pinpointing their common roots, one outdoes the other in propagandizing the results of their feverish soul seeking. On one hand, in order to convince themselves of the rightness of the United Europe edifice, Euroskeptical neoliberal conservatives and the Roman Catholic Church bemoan the influence of secularists-atheists-moral relativists and in the name of sacred “values†insist on Europe’s Christian roots. On the other, the increasingly emasculated Left, despite the low political clout their social programs contain, holds fast to ideas promulgated by the French Revolution.
The European
What divides the diverse peoples of the 27 member states of the European Union (EU) is clear to everyone. It’s the common denominator that is so elusive. That has always been elusive. Yet, though different languages, traditions, national histories, as well as multiple streams of Christianity, are divisive, there does exist a form of Europeanness. There is something in the European, whether or Slovak, Brit or Polack, that makes him unmistakably European.
I hesitate however to claim that such an identity is positive today because, in combination with the European passport and disappearance of physical borders, it nourishes the disease of Eurocentrism vis-Ã -vis the rest of the world. Though perhaps a less dangerous phenomenon than Americanism, this nascent Eurocentrism contains the germ of Europeanism.
Who Are We? Europeans Wonder
The extension of the European Union (EU) from the Atlantic to Slavic lands of the East, from Scandinavia to Malta and Cyprus—an area embracing 500 million people, with a Parliament and among 15 of its member nations a common currency, an enormous market, now the producer of the world’s greatest GNP, and a Constitution in the making—has accelerated the debate about the continent’s identity. Though the issue of roots is a social-political conundrum for all the peoples of the union, it rages especially hot precisely where you would have thought the issue had been resolved long ago—among the union’s founding members of the original European Coal and Steel Community of 1957, of France, German, Italy and the Benelux, the forerunner of the EU.
First of all, let’s dispense with a misunderstanding. The idea of a united Europe is not new. Many have tried to bring it about. It has been the dream of unifiers and conquerors, of Charlemagne and Napoleon, of the Hapsburgs, Adolf Hitler and the original founders of Russian Communism. Mythologically, the aspiration for union in Europe was born with Europa, the daughter of Zeus. Roman law arriving in the wake of the legions then hammered it home. Followed the Holy Roman Empire and the Renaissance—unifying ideas all—the French Revolution and finally 20th century ideas of social justice, which for the Left is the acme of the European Idea.
Though the European Idea of social justice was not powerful enough to avert bloody nationalistic wars —not even Social Democracy at its pinnacle— the long range idea of Europe, the conscience of Europe, has been an antidote against other potential degenerations of illiberal nationalisms such as Nazism and Fascism.
Individual Nations Or European Union?
Recent historiography has investigated themes of national identity and the historic roots of a common European sentiment. Historians continue to delve into analyses of values, symbols and images at the very roots of the tree of European identity. The attempt to reconcile the idea of nation with Europeistic aspirations was a constant of the historiography of Federico Chabod (1901-196. But even Italy’s great historian, once President of the International Society of Historians, noted that the idea of Europe has long suffered from a high level of utopianism.
Yet, though the same problems and dangers cited by Chabod continue to accompany unitary aspirations, the idea of a united Europe has never died. Today it thrives, but in doubt and trepidation. The central idea is clear: European mentality must prevail over the interests of individual states. It is therefore difficult to gainsay the growing Eurocentrism. It has always lurked in Europe, strong enough to be exported to America where the governing elite of European heritage is infected with a much deadlier form of centrism.
The Christian Identity
After such premises, one can grasp the reasons for the intellectual hyper-activity surrounding the Europeanness standing behind the idea of the union—the belief in a “European idea†as the glue for the amalgamation of the diverse cultural and political realities of the single states of the continent. The identification of that “idea†is the point. Until today this unitary aspiration has also been supported by belief in globalization, for participation in which a united Europe was a must. However today, in an abrupt awakening, confidence in the global economy is waning—foreshadowed by the French and Dutch rejection of the proposed European Constitution three years ago, thus undermining the unity idea and strengthening nationalisms.
Since then much discussion has centered on Europe’s Christian roots which the Right and the Catholic Church foster. Fausto Bertinotti, founder of the European Left Party (an all-European party founded in 2004 in Rome) and outgoing President of Italy’s Chamber of Deputies, writes in his recent book, The Europe of Strong Passions (l’Europa delle passioni forti) “The search for the identity of Europe has concentrated the discussion on roots, and precisely religious roots, leading however nowhere….
“We come from a tradition in which religions were considered a possible enrichment, also of a Socialist perspective, with the premise however that politics remains the sovereign dimension. We could not have imagined that the religious conflict, even in the form of war and terrorism, could on the contrary take the place of politics. In the absolutization of religion I note the tendency toward the primacy of religion over the secular dimension of politics, which constitutes per se the profound crisis of politics and its incapacity of configuring major options and alternatives of society.â€
Thinking Americans will agree that Bertinotti hits the nail precisely on the head: the thirst of organized religions for temporal power. In Italy and Spain as in the USA, in Israel as in Iran, the result is the war and terrorism that religion purports to oppose.
Of the major suggested influences and inspirations of European culture, none is more powerful, yet divisive, than the proposal to make explicit reference to Christianity in the Preamble to the Draft Constitution of the European Union. The question posed is: Does God and Christianity have a place in the Constitution?
The Right’s insistence on stressing the Judeo-Christian roots of Europe is particularly significant in light of current tensions between the West and the Islamic world and the threat posed by the clash of civilizations on which the USA motivates its policy of perpetual preventive war.
Some say aprioristically: “Without Christianity, the heart of Europe would be missing.â€
Or summarily: “Europe is based on its Christian heritage.â€
Opponents of mention of God and Christianity in the basic document point out that reference to God erects unnecessary barriers in Europe which must be secular for it to be unified. Especially the Left proposes reference to Europe’s cultural heritage since it is pluralistic and defeats the idea of a single identity. A French Socialist sums up that “it is absurd to mention God and Christianity because it excludes Muslims and non-Christian faiths, as well as citizens who do not believe in God at all.â€
Still, illogically and counterproductively, in many places the religious aspect prevails over other powerful influences on European identity such as the role of the Enlightenment and Reason, the technological and scientific revolution, the French Revolution and the workers movement. Moreover, though the discussion is transversal in nature, it involves in an evident manner, precisely as in the USA, the Right and Left of the political spectrum.
Chabod and the philosopher Benedetto Croce claimed, “Europeans are Christians and cannot not be so, even if we no longer follow the practices of the cult, because Christianity molded our way of feeling and thinking in an indelible manner.â€
One objects to such simplifications, as would Dostoevsky who taught that Christ appeared in the world not to construct a civilization but to save humanity from existing civilizations. Bertinotti notes the attempt to substitute Christ with the history of Christianity, behavior which is more that of Christianists than Christians.
In this extensive and all-European search for the European identity the European Left Party steps forward to break a lance in favor of the multiple values defining Europe, especially culture and the idea of social justice, as did Antonio Gramsci in the early 20th century.
The European Left Party
Here I want to introduce the European Left Party (EL), an all-European political party and association of socialist, communist and green parties of 17 member formations and 7 observers. It was officially founded in Rome on May 8, 2004 by 300 delegates of 15 European political formations, Communist, Socialist and Red-Green. The first congress of this new and truly continental political formation was held in Athens in October of 2005. the second in Prague in November, 2007. Its first president was its founder, Fausto Bertinotti, who resigned in 2006 when he was elected President of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, succeeded by the German Lothar Bisky, Secretary of Die Linke.
Here, two pertinent observations that I will discuss in forthcoming articles: the European Communist parties are a testimony that neither the Left nor Communism in Europe is dead. Nor, in my opinion, is Social Democracy per se a bad word any more than is Eurocommunism. The latter was anyway much more than a negation of Stalinism. Eurocomunism was also a break with the political-social-economic stagnation in the USSR during the upheavals in the reign of Leonid Brezhnev, 1964-1982, when the role of Communism there was minimal. Despite geopolitical reasons and the Cold War pressures the USA exerted against the Soviet Union and Communism in general, the Soviet invasion of Socialist brother state of Czechoslovakia was for many European Communists the last straw. At the time of rupture with Moscow, Western Communists said, “the age of innocence was over.â€
The European Left today is thus a step toward a “re-foundation†of European Communism and the primacy of a secular Europe over its religious roots. It is a reaffirmation of the thought of the theoretician and founder of the Italian Communist Party, Antonio Gramsci, for whom revolutionary violence is not the only way to change things. Political activity, he wrote, is the path to challenge the hegemony of the capitalist class.
Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..
We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..
Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..
We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..
Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..
We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..
Earthquake in the state of Illinois. I woke up this morning to my glass wall sconces above my bed shaking and the house moving. My son ran into my room and was scared to death, thinking it was a tornado..
We felt the tremours 250 miles away a scale of 5.4. Unbelievable feeling..
I don't sleep under anything that could fall and cause damage, and not near any glass, like windows.
Welcome to the earthquake zone.
"Although California quakes get the most news coverage, earthquake zones spread across the nation. The geological survey has designated 26 urban areas in the United States as earthquake risk areas; that list includes New York, Boston, Memphis, Chattanooga, Tenn., and Evansville, Ind. "
It's remarkable to me how the earth can move hundred miles away and you feel it. I can't imagine in California, it must be frightening.. It's also interesting how they can detect hurricanes, tornados, volcanos but no calculations on earthquakes..
What I like about her also is that she doesn't "gang up" against someone she disagrees with. She can fight with someone, and in another thread she sends flowers to the same person and wishes that this person is alright...
A Chinese ship carrying arms destined for Zimbabwe has been forced to leave the South African port of Durban four days after failing to unload.
Earlier, a South African judge ruled that the cargo of rocket-propelled grenades, mortar rounds and ammunition could not be transported overland.
Human rights groups had petitioned for a block on the arms and dockers had refused to unload the shipment.
Some fear Zimbabwe will use the arms to repress political opposition.
Source: BBC News
It is good to read that normal folk are making a stand by refusing to unload a shipment of arms from China destined to suppress an already heavily supressed country.
alternative to anaesthetics? Hypnotist Alex Lenkei snubbed anaesthetic and sent himself into a trance before undergoing surgery on his hand at Worthing Hospital in Sussex.
(advancements in science has always amazed me..but sometimes it scares me )
Are we 10 years away from artificial life? In late August 2007, an Associated Press article put forth the claim that scientists were no more than 10 years away from creating artificial life -- and possibly as few as three. Could such a thing be possible? Scientists have made tremendous strides in decoding human and animal genomes, synthesizing DNA and cloning. Creating artificial, functioning biological organisms seems to present a tremendous leap beyond any of these abilities. But some of the companies and researchers involved in the quest for artificial life believe that the 10-year time frame is possible. Not only that -- they say that the development of wet artificial life (as it's often called) will radically affect our views of biological life and our place in the universe.......... http://science.howstuffworks.com/artificial-life-news.htm
An amazing piece of research that tells us, women trying to conceive a child should eat toast for breakfast if they want a girl and cereal if they want a boy! Well I blew that one out of the window, as I nearly always ate toast (and marmite ) and I had two boys!
This sort of research really gets on my nerves, how dare they spend money on proving / disproving ridiculous concepts when it could be better spent on more deserving causes.
Though libralady mentioned this earlier, but here is more tips about how to make boy or a girl:
(I like the first one in the list specially )
*In France in the 18th century it was thought that each testicle contained gender-specific sperm: so girls came from the left and boys came from the right. Men who wanted a boy were encouraged to tie off their left testicle during intercourse – or even to remove it.
*Girls are more likely to be conceived in the afternoon and on an even day of the month, while boys are more likely at night and on odd days.
*Female orgasms during sex are more likely to produce a boy, as the body produces alkaline chemicals after an orgasm, which are less likely to finish off the less hardy male sperm, which can then go on to beat the female sperm in the race to the egg.
*Men who drink coffee before they have sex are more likely to have a son, as the coffee perks up the male sperm but not the female.
*As mothers get older, they are more likely to have a boy.
*If you want a girl, sleep with a wooden spoon under your bed and a pink ribbon under your pillow.
*For a boy, only eat the ends of loaves of bread; for a girl, eat only the middles. Old wives' tales
Libra, marmite?! Please! It must have influenced the toast diet and that's why you have two sons
I wish somebody had informed me about it before I actually conceived
haha..
I should have tied my left testicle according to French..
Well my husband didn't tie his - so it had to be the Marmite that led to us having 3 sons! Acutally, Marmite is the one thing I always ask people to bring when they visit us - I love it!
A seduction school in Moscow, Russia
The professor coaches his pupils in the art of being a sterva,which in Russian means, literally, "bitch". In Russia, where feminism is treated with suspicion and its practitioners often regarded as lesbians, being a "bitch" is not what many in the West would assume. A successful bitch is is neither strident nor sassy, but demure, manipulative and aware of her own sexuality in order to get her own way.
Vegetarian Festival
The Phuket Vegetarian Festival celebrates the beginning of Taoist Lent, when devout Chinese abstain from eating all meat. The festival takes place on the first 9 days of the 9th lunar month of the Chinese calendar. Everyone dresses in white and shopkeepers set up small alters with offerings of incense, flowers, candles, fruit, and 9 cups of tea to the 9 emperor deities honoured by the festival.
Prisoners in British prisons have such a "cushy" number, they no longer want to break out. Instead, they have mates breaking in to deliver drugs and mobile phones. In some cases even prostitutes have been allowed in to
"service" the "clients" of Her Majesty's Prisons.
There is also cases of the prison being run my the inmates because the prison guards have lost control.
The unions claim this has happened due to the serious unfunding and shortage of prison staff.
Source: Independent
Maybe it is because there are too many criminals because the sentance does not deter the crime!!!!!
A seduction school in Moscow, Russia
The professor coaches his pupils in the art of being a sterva,which in Russian means, literally, "bitch". In Russia, where feminism is treated with suspicion and its practitioners often regarded as lesbians, being a "bitch" is not what many in the West would assume. A successful bitch is is neither strident nor sassy, but demure, manipulative and aware of her own sexuality in order to get her own way.
Handsom....it isn't too late to enroll your harem into these classes!
Egypt
Howaida Taha, 44, a documentary producer for al-Jazeera, has been arrested. She is still appealing an earlier jail sentence by a Cairo state security court that found her guilty of "harming the country's interests" in her documentary exposing how torture, including sexual abuse, is routinely performed in Egyptian police stations. Three crew members and an Egyptian human-rights activist were also detained. The new documentary Taha was producing was about people living on the edge of society.
Egypt
Howaida Taha, 44, a documentary producer for al-Jazeera, has been arrested. She is still appealing an earlier jail sentence by a Cairo state security court that found her guilty of "harming the country's interests" in her documentary exposing how torture, including sexual abuse, is routinely performed in Egyptian police stations. Three crew members and an Egyptian human-rights activist were also detained. The new documentary Taha was producing was about people living on the edge of society.
Nargile cafes are asking for an exemption to the tobacco ban, fearing that many cafes will be put out of business.
Yes a tobacco ban could have a detrimental effect on a Nargile cafe
Actually,Nargile is very dangerous to health,so i hope that pan will eliminate it somehow
İ wish they elimimate it here too !
Many studies have proven that it is one of the sources for many diseases ,and most dangerous one is Tuberculosis ''TB''
Which became wild now because its producing new generations ''cat can explain this better''
and the only way that you will be safe from it while using Nargile is to have your own Nargile,''even changing the water wont keep the dangerous away''...which not valid in those cafes
Hunky Jesus
caption reads :
Competition is fierce during a San Francisco Easter tradition, the annual Hunky Jesus competition in Dolores Park on Sunday March 23, 2008. The tradition is officiated by the Sisters or Perpetual Indulgence, a group of drag queen nuns who are committed to social justice and LGBTQ community activism.
We're not celebrating Israel's anniversary
The Guardian,
Wednesday April 30 2008
In May, Jewish organisations will be celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel. This is understandable in the context of centuries of persecution culminating in the Holocaust. Nevertheless, we are Jews who will not be celebrating. Surely it is now time to acknowledge the narrative of the other, the price paid by another people for European anti-semitism and Hitler's genocidal policies. As Edward Said emphasised, what the Holocaust is to the Jews, the Naqba is to the Palestinians.
In April 1948, the same month as the infamous massacre at Deir Yassin and the mortar attack on Palestinian civilians in Haifa's market square, Plan Dalet was put into operation. This authorised the destruction of Palestinian villages and the expulsion of the indigenous population outside the borders of the state. We will not be celebrating.
In July 1948, 70,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in Lydda and Ramleh in the heat of the summer with no food or water. Hundreds died. It was known as the Death March. We will not be celebrating.
In all, 750,000 Palestinians became refugees. Some 400 villages were wiped off the map. That did not end the ethnic cleansing. Thousands of Palestinians (Israeli citizens) were expelled from the Galilee in 1956. Many thousands more when Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza. Under international law and sanctioned by UN resolution 194, refugees from war have a right to return or compensation. Israel has never accepted that right. We will not be celebrating.
We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations.
We will celebrate when Arab and Jew live as equals in a peaceful Middle East.
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - The Turkish gunman who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II is applying for Polish citizenship and wants to live in the late pontiff's country of birth when released from prison, his lawyer said Friday.
Mehmet Ali Agca also wants to be transferred to a prison in Poland to serve the remainder
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - The Turkish gunman who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II is applying for Polish citizenship and wants to live in the late pontiff's country of birth when released from prison, his lawyer said Friday.
Mehmet Ali Agca also wants to be transferred to a prison in Poland to serve the remainder
Poor guy, Turkish prisons must really be terrible if he volunteers for death sentence...
But he has a point there though : "Pope Karol Wojtyla, is my spiritual brother"
Citizenship should be granted, if you ask me..Please do..and take him away
Dogs, British and poor Natalie's titanic dilemma :
Dear Virginia, My much-loved dog died nine months ago, and after a while I thought it might be a good idea to get a new one. But now I've got one, I really can't bear it. After three weeks with him, I feel I'm about to have a breakdown. I can't go anywhere, and he's yapping and peeing all the time. The thought of another 15 or so years of this seems intolerable. Would it be mean to give him to someone else? Yours sincerely, Natalie
And the answers:
Phone the RSPCA. You were on the rebound from grief and made a mistake by buying a dog that you can't love like your previous one.
Unlike children, dogs can be sent back, and you should feel no guilt about ...
if you don't think you can love and cherish him properly. He deserves better than that.
It never fails to amaze me how many people take on the responsibility of a dog without thinking through what this demands of them
Dogs, British and poor Natalie's titanic dilemma :
Dear Virginia, My much-loved dog died nine months ago, and after a while I thought it might be a good idea to get a new one. But now I've got one, I really can't bear it. After three weeks with him, I feel I'm about to have a breakdown. I can't go anywhere, and he's yapping and peeing all the time. The thought of another 15 or so years of this seems intolerable. Would it be mean to give him to someone else? Yours sincerely, Natalie
And the answers:
Phone the RSPCA. You were on the rebound from grief and made a mistake by buying a dog that you can't love like your previous one.
Unlike children, dogs can be sent back, and you should feel no guilt about ...
if you don't think you can love and cherish him properly. He deserves better than that.
It never fails to amaze me how many people take on the responsibility of a dog without thinking through what this demands of them
I have never owned a dog, however how insensitve this may sound. I always thought a good business would be "Rent A Pet". You could rent a pet to see if it has the type of personality etc..your looking for. If not, you could return it instead of being stuck with it. Or what about the elderly, they say animals like cats etc. are good companions. But when the renter gets really sick and can't take care of them or possibly passes away. You could just send them back to "Rent a Pet" to go to another good home. Thoughts?
Dogs, British and poor Natalie's titanic dilemma :
Dear Virginia, My much-loved dog died nine months ago, and after a while I thought it might be a good idea to get a new one. But now I've got one, I really can't bear it. After three weeks with him, I feel I'm about to have a breakdown. I can't go anywhere, and he's yapping and peeing all the time. The thought of another 15 or so years of this seems intolerable. Would it be mean to give him to someone else? Yours sincerely, Natalie
And the answers:
Phone the RSPCA. You were on the rebound from grief and made a mistake by buying a dog that you can't love like your previous one.
Unlike children, dogs can be sent back, and you should feel no guilt about ...
if you don't think you can love and cherish him properly. He deserves better than that.
It never fails to amaze me how many people take on the responsibility of a dog without thinking through what this demands of them
I have never owned a dog, however how insensitve this may sound. I always thought a good business would be "Rent A Pet". You could rent a pet to see if it has the type of personality etc..your looking for. If not, you could return it instead of being stuck with it. Or what about the elderly, they say animals like cats etc. are good companions. But when the renter gets really sick and can't take care of them or possibly passes away. You could just send them back to "Rent a Pet" to go to another good home. Thoughts?
It depends, really, I recently lost both of my cats. I miss them terribly. However, I don't miss their cat box. Could I rent a pet for just a few hours?
If you are searching the internet for information on terrorism in theMiddle East, you might come across the US state department.
Thedepartment is using Google's AdWords service to draw in internetsurfers searching for particular words - such as 'terrorism' - andredirect them to its own website.
In recent months, the USadministration has quietly been running the advert-isements for itsAmerica.gov site, which is intended to give foreign audiences theWashington take on US -foreign policy, culture and society.
Otherwords and phrases that trigger the adverts include 'Middle East peace','human rights', 'press freedom', 'renewable energy', 'food aid' and -apparently the most popular search the administration has paid for -'US elections'.
As is customary with Google's service, theadvertisements are geared to particular regions of the world. A searchfor terrorism on Google's sites in the UK, the United Arab Emirates andCanada yields the same advertisement for 'peace and security: creatingsecurity through improved relations and co-operation' and a link to theAmerica.gov page.
But similar searches on the Google sites in Israel, Egypt, China and France do not yield the same result.
'Weneed a very strong presence on the web; that's communications today,'says Jonathan Margolis at the Bureau of International InformationPrograms, the state department agency responsible for both taking outthe advertisements and the America.gov site.
'We are trying toengage, inform and influence foreign audiences. Before you can doeither of the last two you have got to find some way to engage them . .. We found that when you launch a website and if you want to attract atarget audience, Google ads are a very effective way of drawing peopleto the site.'
He says the state department is spending $25,000 to$30,000 (€19,000, £15,00 a month on the adverts, based on the numberof users who click on them, as well as about $15,000 a month foradverts for longer-standing US government Arabic and Farsi-languagesites.
He adds that the adverts for the Arabic and Farsi siteshave generated 300,000 views a month and that the US looks at theregions of the world in which to run the advertisements from month tomonth.
One focus is countries or regions with large expatriate populations.
However,as the US approaches the end of George W. Bush's time in the WhiteHouse, it has its public relations work cut out for it. Some 47 percent of people worldwide say the US has a negative influence, comparedwith 35 per cent who see it as positive, according to a poll of 17,500people in 34 countries released last month and commissioned by the BBC.
ZIZEK! is both an unforgettable lesson in philosophy and a compelling portrait of an intellectual maverick. Possessing the capacity to appeal to the uninitiated in a way no other philosopher before him could, Slavoj Zizek’s combination of high and low culture will fascinate even those who once believed philosophy to be a bore.
http://www.istanbulmodern.org/images/newsletter/sinema/nisan2007/14-22/14-22.html
Alien Foetus
caption of the images say:
A German teenager who left a Halloween joke alien in a glass jar on the counter of an ice cream vendor was surprised at the uproar his prank caused when he heard reports on local radio. Police took the plastic alien to pathologists for checking. Initially the experts said the object could be a human foetus showing signs of deformity, but a forensic expert, on taking a scalpel to it, revealed it to be made of plastic.
Rabbit becomes mother to kittens has the ahhhhhh factor! Being a lover of all things fluffy, I could not resist posting this, even though it is an old story! This lovely little pet rabbit has become the adopted mother to 6 tiny kittens. Only animal lovers need look
An Al-JazeÂera cameraman released from U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay reÂturned home to Sudan early Friday after six years of imprisonment that drew worldwide protests.
Sami al-Haj, along with two other Sudanese released from GuanÂtanamo prison in Cuba Thursday, arrived at the airport in Sudan's capital Khartoum on a U.S. military plane.
Al-Haj was detained in December 2001 by Pakistani authorities as he tried to enter Afghanistan to cover the U.S.-led invasion. He was turned over to the U.S. military and taken in January 2002 to Guantanamo Bay, where the United States holds some 275 men suspected of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban, most of them without charges.
Reprieve, the British human rights group that represents 35 GuanÂtanamo prisoners including al-Haj, said Pakistani forces apparently seized al-Haj at the behest of the U.S. authorities who suspected he had interviewed Osama bin Laden, said.
But that "supposed intelligence" turned out to be false, Reprieve said in a news release.
"This is wonderful news, and long overdue," said Clive Stafford Smith, Reprieve's Director who has represented al-Haj since 2005. "The U.S. administration has never had any reason for holding Mr. Al Haj, and has, instead, spent six years shamelessly attempting to turn him against his employers at Al-Jazeera." The U.S. military says it goes to great lengths to respect the religion of detainees, issuing them Qurans, enforcing quiet among guard staff during prayer calls throughout the day. All cells in Guantanamo have an arrow that points toward the holy city of Mecca.
Al-Haj was the only journalist from a major international news organization held at Guantanamo and many of his supporters saw his detention as punishment for a network whose broadcasts angered U.S. officials.
Al-Haj said he believed he was arrested because of U.S. hostility toward Al-Jazeera and because the media was reporting on U.S. rights violations in Afghanistan.
The military alleged he was a courier for a militant Muslim organization, an allegation his lawyers denied.
By Mohamed Osman
The Associated Press
| Moscow News,№17-18 2008
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2008/05/journalist_rele.html
Turkey's born-again farmer
Organic food might change your life, but organic farming can change the lives of thousands. Nazmi Ilicali, born in 1953, grew up in the east of Turkey in the province of Erzurum, famous for its scorching summers and hard winters. Erzurum, one of Turkey's poorest districts, is where Nazmi's life has been spent enriching the barren lives of those around him.--Fazile Zahir
FETHIYE, Turkey - Organic food might change your life, but organic farming can change the lives of thousands. Nazmi Ilicali, born in 1953, grew up in the east of Turkey in the province of Erzurum, famous for its scorching summers and hard winters. Erzurum, one of Turkey's poorest districts, is where Nazmi's life has been spent enriching the barren lives of those around him.
First he trained as a teacher, and then he spent 25 years working in schools in and around his home town. After his retirement he found himself bored and at loose ends, and inactivity soon developed into such a serious drinking problem that his nickname around town became "Alcoholic Nazmi".
He struggled on and finally, with the help of his family and a burning new interest, he began to recover. Nazmi discovered farming, in particular organic farming, and the power of this raw contact with the earth and its produce pulled him out of his personal quagmire and led him to enhance the lives and livelihoods of thousands of other farmers in his area.
Nazmi is more than just a simple farmer, he is a born-again farmer with a zealous devotion to organic farming and a burning desire to organize other people around him to reap its benefits as well. As part of his rehabilitation he joined the Daphan Plains Organic Agriculture Project (set up in 1996) and grew to play a key part in the successful efforts of the organization.
He explains why, ironically, the poverty of this area makes it perfect for starting organic farming projects: "The earth in this area is especially suitable, because the local population is so poor that for years they have been unable to afford chemical fertilizers. The climate is good for organic agriculture, too. The frost and cold here even kill the eggs laid in the earth by insects, and because of that there is no need for pesticides - we have a totally chemical-free soil."
Soon after joining the Daphan project, Nazmi took a further step. "After doing extensive research, I decided that organic agriculture was the only investment with good potential in the east of Turkey. But I also knew that any efforts would have to be made in an organized way. When I first became involved three years ago, I brought 633 farmers together, and the European Community gave me the financial support to set up the Eastern Anatolian Farmers and Livestock Keepers Union. Now we have 3,000 members, and are still gathering members like an avalanche gathers snow."
Nazmi is the president of the union, which includes farmers from 12 different areas as members, and he has acquired a new nickname: "Organic Nazmi".
Each year he plans new measures to improve his union members' lives. This year union money will be spent on new farming tools that will be owned communally and lent out for poor farmers to use for free. Nazmi's new social conscience and sense of responsibility extend to all areas of his farmers' lives: "Because I'm a teacher, I place great importance on education. I believe that education is more important than profits. From now on every farmer should know how to use a computer and have an e-mail address. They should be able to communicate with their fellow farmers nationally and internationally. For those that want them, we are going to provide English lessons."
Nazmi's name and the success of the Daphan Plains project have spread worldwide. Last year the American Ashoka Entrepreneur Trust gave the project an award for "social entrepreneurship". This month a delegation from Japan came to visit, and Nazmi said, "They were very impressed. From now on our products will be found on Japanese dinner tables too."
Daphan produces organic wheat, rye, barley, white beans, green lentils, chickpeas and bulgur wheat. Its website, www.daphan.org, invites buyers to order the type of vegetables and pulses they want grown organically and, on signing contracts, Daphan will supply them. Next year in a new diversification the project will distribute 600 cows to its members so they can start farming organic meat and milk.
Nazmi explains that when they first started, the biggest problem they had was the packaging and processing of their organic products. Rather than allowing this to stall their progress, they built a small factory and made every member of the association a shareholder. The factory began to grind their own cereals into flour and package it. Their brand identity, sales and profit margins have all improved since.
The efforts of Nazmi and the Daphan Plains organic project are not just appreciated by the 3,000 farmers in the Erzurum area, the benefits stretch across the country to the urban sprawl that is Istanbul. The city council set up a program in 2005 that encourages rural villagers to stay in their home provinces rather than migrate to Istanbul. The Daphan Plains project and Istanbul council have recently come to an agreement whereby the council buys the project's organic wheat for the public bakery. Under the terms of the contract the city will take 10,000 tonnes of organic wheat, which will earn the project 1 million liras (US$675,00.
Kadir Topbas, the head of the Istanbul council, said organic farming projects had halted rural-to-urban migration in several areas around Erzurum. He underlined the importance of supporting these types of projects both locally and by the central government: "The government provides serious support to these projects. As a local council we have a five-year contract with the Erzurum area. We supply Istanbul residents with access to organic bread as a result and we plan to help these areas to market all their produce in the future. The success of these projects has resulted in more than 1,000 families leaving Istanbul and returning to their home villages."
Organic Nazmi is a happy man, and so are the people he surrounds himself with. Mehmet, one of his farmers, summed up the change in their lives by saying: "We go to our fields smiling now and breed our livestock with a lot of happiness. We are very proud of Nazmi and what he has done."
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Fazile Zahir is of Turkish descent, born and brought up in London. She moved to live in Turkey in 2005 and has been writing full time since then.
Source: Asia Times
"Power concedes nothing without a demand.' The struggle for justice must never be adjourned. The forces of injustice do not take vacations. Societies are not static in this regard. They await the political and civic energies of individuals who engage the arenas of power, multiply their numbers and emblazon in deeds and institutions the immortal principle that "Here the People Rule." - Ralph Nader
Last diva Leyla Gencer,"La Diva Turca" (The Turkish Diva) and "La Regina" (The Queen) in the opera world, dies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla_Gencer
http://www.leylagencer.eu/bio_in_brief.html
Our Daily Bread We better get used to higher food prices. They will be with us for years to come – By Nikolaus Piper
Thomas Robert Malthus was one of the greatest pessimists of history. The Anglican parson from Surrey was not only one of the founders of classical political economics – he also gave the young science a decidedly dismal undertone. The working class would never be able to escape its misery, he believed. As soon as the lot of the poor improved a little, their enhanced prosperity would result in more children to feed. While populations would be able to grow exponentially, he stated, food production could experience only linear growth: a trap with no exit.
History has refuted Malthus’ pessimism. Capitalism is much more productive than the economist could have imagined. Nevertheless, there have always been Malthusian situations in which the planet’s limitations suddenly become perceptible and scarcity threatens the security and survival of millions of people. That was true in Malthus’ day, and it is true once again today. Food prices are soaring around the globe. The significance of this price surge for world policy can hardly be overestimated. The world is experiencing its worst food crisis in more than 30 years, says New York-based economist Jeffrey Sachs.
At the end of April, the price for a ton of rice surpassed the $1,000 threshold for the first time, triggering real panic in large importing countries like the Philippines. In Haiti, hunger riots brought down the government while Egyptian textile workers took to the streets demanding food; about 200 people were arrested. In Sri Lanka, food became 34 percent more expensive within a year; in Costa Rica, its price has risen by 21 percent; in Egypt, by 13.5 percent. The developmental progress of five years is being wiped out overnight, warned International Money Fund (IMF) Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
Countries dependent on food imports are facing destabilization, yet tensions are also rising in countries where the people are still able to feed themselves. Higher prices for rice, corn and soybeans may benefit many small-scale farmers in the developing world but the urban poor are the real losers. Among industrialized nations, the effects of the price spikes are more limited but hardly negligible. In Germany, prices haven’t risen this fast in 14 years and in America, inflation has exceeded the 4 percent mark despite the recession. Low-wage earners are especially vulnerable to losses in buying power.
There can be no doubt regarding the causes of the current food crisis. This time, the avarice of commodity speculators is not to blame. Perhaps one or the other spot price may be inflated due to speculation but the root cause is scarcity.
For the first time in their lives, millions of Chinese, Indians, Malaysians and Brazilians can afford to eat sufficiently and well. They want to enjoy the same foods Europeans and North Americans do. Global supply hasn’t kept pace with the extra demand. Also, economic growth in Asia is driving up the price of oil. Fertilizer and fuel for tractors are now so expensive that farmers are being forced to raise prices.
This bout of inflation has systemic causes and won’t disappear any time soon. Maybe one price or the other will drop if the recession in the U.S. is more severe than expected, for example. But the trend will go up as long as world prosperity continues at its present clip. Commodities are finite, as meadows and fields can’t be expanded at will, not even in times of burgeoning demand.
It adds up to a sea change. The abysmally low prices for grain, milk and meat used to be the biggest problem for development aid policy. Now it’s hunger. In many countries, direct assistance to the poor has become the first priority. Economists have calculated that, if rice prices climb 10 percent in Indonesia, two million more people there will fall below the poverty line.
In responding, many countries are making disastrous mistakes. Beleaguered governments are imposing tariffs or outright bans on food exports. Doing so can temporarily relieve domestic price pressures but it will exacerbate the problem for importing countries. In sum, that policy makes food even scarcer. Subsidizing staples and freezing prices lead to waste and siphon off state finances. The World Bank and national agencies can put know-how and specialized programs to use here. In Yemen, for example, the World Bank is funding a relatively efficient food-for-work program that benefits the poor – and only the poor.
The crisis is resetting the scope of action for policymakers. The consensus among European politicians and consumers who reject genetically modified foods remains solid. Yet pressure will grow to compromise and make way for more productive agriculture through genetic engineering.
The competitive environment for organic agriculture is also deteriorating. Until now, many consumers have been happy to pay extra for organic bread, meat, and vegetables. Now that food in general has become more expensive, organic farmers in the U.S. are beginning to shut down because business is no longer profitable.
Then there is climate policy: The surge in food prices has demonstrated that agrofuels from corn, canola and other agricultural raw materials are not a viable alternative to fossil fuels. Given current technologies, public funding of biofuels means that people compete against cars for scarce agricultural land. The U.S. government’s ethanol subsidies have contributed significantly to the soaring price of corn in Mexico and other Latin American countries.
For the EU, these changes represent an opportunity to abandon the disastrous agricultural policies Europe has been pursuing for the past 50 years. Today, preventing surpluses and propping up farmers’ incomes by creating artificial demand are no longer needed. Today, farmers earn their money on the open market. It is more important now to help countries like Haiti and Bangladesh with their agricultural development.
European and North American consumers, who for decades have taken for granted their abundance of food, must change their thinking. Ultimately, having something on the table – our daily bread – decides life and death in the world. Realizing how scarce bread and meat really are could prompt us to rethink our values and recognize that our luxury often comes at others’ expense.
Picture above: “A measure of wheat for a penny…†The third horseman of the Apocalypse in the Book of Revelations, in which John the Apostle envisions the end of the world, represents famine. In John’s day, a penny was a very high price for a handful of grain. What will our daily bread cost us? The illustration is Albrecht Dürer’s 1498 woodcut, “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.â€
A web site
http://www.turkiyebarismeclisi.org/v2/
turkiyebarismeclisi=turkeypeaceparliment
Turkey needs this type civil organizations..
And they are planing a huge meeting in 1st of June in kadikoy with the slogans: 'we want peace now''we want solution not death'
A man in Saudia Arabia has been sentanced to 140 lashes for having coffee with a women who was not a relative. They don't know what has happened to the woman. They were caught by the religious police!
A man in Saudia Arabia has been sentanced to 140 lashes for having coffee with a women who was not a relative. They don't know what has happened to the woman. They were caught by the religious police!
I have given up arguing about religion - it makes no difference to argue. I just laugh at all religions now
I am sure those those who defend their religion so wildly will be proud of this. Well done to the religious police! Islam is saved from the naughty man who drank coffee with a woman! I hope the woman was punished more severely - it was probably her fault for allowing 1cm of foot to be seen under her burka which enticed the poor innocent man and compelled him to drink coffee with her
I have given up arguing about religion - it makes no difference to argue. I just laugh at all religions now
I am sure those those who defend their religion so wildly will be proud of this. Well done to the religious police! Islam is saved from the naughty man who drank coffee with a woman! I hope the woman was punished more severely - it was probably her fault for allowing 1cm of foot to be seen under her burka which enticed the poor innocent man and compelled him to drink coffee with her
Now that you are reformed you can come back to TC and begin to nicely praise Ataturk and his children land... See? It wasn't that difficult! Now we can be a happy, loving family... :-S (you are the queen mother, remember? )
Now that you are reformed you can come back to TC and begin to nicely praise Ataturk and his children land... See? It wasn't that difficult! Now we can be a happy, loving family... :-S (you are the queen mother, remember? )
I was going to say "Ataturk is not a religion" but actually I am wrong - our dear Kemalists are proof of that!
FORMER queen mother actually!! I am enjoying a happy retirement from my throne in the sun hehehe!
Now that you are reformed you can come back to TC and begin to nicely praise Ataturk and his children land... See? It wasn't that difficult! Now we can be a happy, loving family... :-S (you are the queen mother, remember? )
I was going to say "Ataturk is not a religion" but actually I am wrong - our dear Kemalists are proof of that!
FORMER queen mother actually!! I am enjoying a happy retirement from my throne in the sun hehehe!
The new queen is...... thehandsom
Did we vote on this?? :-S I have no problem with the choice but it seems a bit undemocratic - unless you two are related of course!
Congratulations! Please accept this chicken and donkey sandwich as a small reward (sorry unable to send through forum post - I will pm you a token to redeem at your local McDonkeylds)
Congratulations! Please accept this chicken and donkey sandwich as a small reward (sorry unable to send through forum post - I will pm you a token to redeem at your local McDonkeylds)
What, no fries with that? Its just not the same without carrot safe potato fries!
CADILLAC STONEHENGE
caption of the images say:
Amarillo, Texas, USA: Cadillac Ranch, a public art installation spearheaded by the art group, "Ant Farm" - a group of experimental architects in the 1970's, was first created in 1974. The ranch, which consists of ten Cadillac automobiles buried nose-down (and spray-painted by visitors) at a slight angle corresponding to that of the Great Pyramid of Giza, was later moved to a new location two miles away. Both properties are owned by local millionaire Stanley Marsh III, a vocal supporter of the project...
caption of the images say:
Tooth Tattoos the Latest Body Art Craze It would seem that word of mouth is spreading about the latest body art craze, tattooed teeth. The fad now sweeping America is heading across the Atlantic from tattoo artist Steve Heward who has designed a range of artworks for teeth known as Gnasher Tats. Heward creates the tattoos, which are then painted onto the back of peoples molars. Among the more creative designs are impressions of David Beckham, Amy Winehouse, Princess Diana, and even the Queen. Heward, who has been perfecting his art since 1979 said It's just exploded.The artist has designed his first set of tattoos for the UK market starting at £40..
Ok, I have admit I am puzzeled by this tooth tattoo art. How in the world does the artist paint a figure on the back of a moler? Secondly, why in the world would anyone have this done?
Ok, I have admit I am puzzeled by this tooth tattoo art. How in the world does the artist paint a figure on the back of a moler? Secondly, why in the world would anyone have this done?
Offf teas..
You have no imagination what so ever..do you?
How can you miss the erotic elements in this? phew!!!!
Ok, I have admit I am puzzeled by this tooth tattoo art. How in the world does the artist paint a figure on the back of a moler? Secondly, why in the world would anyone have this done?
Offf teas..
You have no imagination what so ever..do you?
How can you miss the erotic elements in this? phew!!!!
So let me guess you would have Kate Moss put on your moler..
Supply and Demand
caption of the images say:
A dog in China has become mum to an unusual litter - adopting four piglets. The cuddly critter called Hei Zi, lost her three puppies when they froze to death during a sudden snowfall. During the same blizzard another villager in Hongdong city saw his female pig die of cold, leaving behind eight babies. So four of the baby pigs were given to Hei Zi, so the pooch could play mum. The unusual family have been flourishing under the dog's care, with all four piglets surviving and growing fast daily.
A penguin which went bald was given a helping hand by scientists who made him a special wetsuit to get him back into the water. Unlike marine mammals, which rely on a layer of blubbery fat to keep them warm in water, penguins reply on their waterproof feathers. But 25-year-old Pierre started losing his feathers and was soon too cold to swim. But scientists at the California Academy of Sciences took pity on the balding bird and commissioned him a special wetsuit.
A penguin which went bald was given a helping hand by scientists who made him a special wetsuit to get him back into the water. Unlike marine mammals, which rely on a layer of blubbery fat to keep them warm in water, penguins reply on their waterproof feathers. But 25-year-old Pierre started losing his feathers and was soon too cold to swim. But scientists at the California Academy of Sciences took pity on the balding bird and commissioned him a special wetsuit.
Handsom, you may want to consider getting one of these wetsuits now that you have had your hair removed at that spa!
A penguin which went bald was given a helping hand by scientists who made him a special wetsuit to get him back into the water. Unlike marine mammals, which rely on a layer of blubbery fat to keep them warm in water, penguins reply on their waterproof feathers. But 25-year-old Pierre started losing his feathers and was soon too cold to swim. But scientists at the California Academy of Sciences took pity on the balding bird and commissioned him a special wetsuit.
handsom are you saying that after your waxings you get cold?
An interesting clip with an awsome music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=949Wqix6TMM
The images come from the first part of the Moğol film that came out a few months ago. The film will consist of 3 parts, of which the first tells the life of Cenghiz Han. A recommendation for all who like historically based 'big' films!
I heard about this movie. I should finally find time to watch it. I also heard about Turkish-Monngolian realtions before a few times and I ignored it thinking that it sounded a complete nonsense. Turks I see and know look completely different and they behave different from Mongolians, I suppose they dont sound similllar as well. Is Turkish like Mongolian language?
As far as I know (have understood from history class ) the Turkic folks were a nomadic people that origine from Central Asia, around where Mongolia is now. The language is in the group of Mongollic Languages, that according to some linguists belongs to the Altaic Languages, the same group Turkish is often considered to be in. However, for as far as I know the language doesnt really sound like Turkish. It makes uses of the cyrillic alphabet btw.
Astounding but not entirly suprising news! Do we wait for a new member, lets say Partner-N?
Oh LL you don't give the boy any credit. You know how clever these boys are with their identities!!!
I am sure he would come up with something far more cunning that would fool us all.......something like M-Partner!
Most expensive house in the world
caption of the images say:The most expensive house in the world , mansion set to sell for £1117 Million in Kensington Palace Gardens , West London.
Missing Pandas caption of the images say:
Pandas eat food at the China Wolong Giant Panda Protection and Research Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province, May 23, 2008. The May 12 earthquake killed five staff at the Wolong-based China Giant Panda Protection and Research Center. Three of 10 pandas that went missing have not been found.
A clever customs official at an airport in Japan has Mislaid Cannabis! during a training session. He loaded the cannabis into a randomly selected case and the sniffer dog failed to find it! He unfortunately forgot which case it was in and someone has left the airport with some nice fresh cannabis! I hope he enjoys it!
A clever customs official at an airport in Japan has Mislaid Cannabis! during a training session. He loaded the cannabis into a randomly selected case and the sniffer dog failed to find it! He unfortunately forgot which case it was in and someone has left the airport with some nice fresh cannabis! I hope he enjoys it!
Maybe it started someone's vacation off in a great way.
India's new TaTa car for $2,500. Do you know what this means? It means that if you think gas is expensive now, just wait until China gets ahold of this car. The Chinese will be buying this car in masses, therefore everyone will be fighting for gas. You think it's bad now, just wait.
The pineal gland, which is in the geometric center of the brain, has been called "the seat of the soul" by Descartes. It is directly behind the eyes, hence the biblical saying "the eyes are the windows to the soul". Whether or not the soul actually resides there, or if there is such a thing as a soul is certainly a matter of some debate.
The pineal gland, which is in the geometric center of the brain, has been called "the seat of the soul" by Descartes. It is directly behind the eyes, hence the biblical saying "the eyes are the windows to the soul". Whether or not the soul actually resides there, or if there is such a thing as a soul is certainly a matter of some debate.
Where did this catch your eye Ros? Have they just discovered this?
A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.
It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!
A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.
It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!
A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.
It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!
Must have been difficult for a woman to stay quiet for so long
A homeless women has been found living in a cupboard in a mans wardrobe in Japan. The homeless woman crept into the unlocked house and made her self at home. He became suspicous when food started disapearing and set up cameras to sends pictures to his mobile. He saw something moving on the phone and called the police.
It was discovered that had been living in the house for a year, taking showers and eating the man's food and he did not notice!
Must have been difficult for a woman to stay quiet for so long
Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China
Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China
Tatoos, piercings...what are you trying to tell us handsom?
Barack Obama said he spoke as a
"true friend" of Israel [EPA]
Arab leaders have reacted with anger and disbelief to an intensely pro-Israeli speech delivered by Barack Obama, the US Democratic presumptive presidential nominee.
Obama told the influential annual policy conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Council (Aipac): "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."
Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China
Handsom is that what you look like without your "human" disguise?
Quirky piercing
caption of the images say:A Chinese man surnamed Wei shows his stunt with 2008 needles sticking in his head, face and hands for the 2008 beijing Olympic Games -Nanning, west China
Handsom is that what you look like without your "human" disguise?
A sad indicment of how society has become so deplorable.
A 78 year old man is knocked over whilst crossing a street and he is critically injured and lying unconcious in the road.
1) the car that hit him does not stop
2) other cars drive round him
3) passers by stand looking at him
4) no one goes to give assistance
5) no one calls an ambulance
6) man on scooters pulls away from the side of the road, driving round him and ignoring him
He is still lying in the road, cars are still driving around him and eventually a police car stops and calls for the ambulance.
A video clip of this has been released to the public to try and shock the society into feeling guilty for their actions.
When people were interviewed in the street about it, most did not give a damn, not my problem!
A sad indicment of how society has become so deplorable.
A 78 year old man is knocked over whilst crossing a street and he is critically injured and lying unconcious in the road.
1) the car that hit him does not stop
2) other cars drive round him
3) passers by stand looking at him
4) no one goes to give assistance
5) no one calls an ambulance
6) man on scooters pulls away from the side of the road, driving round him and ignoring him
He is still lying in the road, cars are still driving around him and eventually a police car stops and calls for the ambulance.
A video clip of this has been released to the public to try and shock the society into feeling guilty for their actions.
When people were interviewed in the street about it, most did not give a damn, not my problem!
I am delieveratly not saying where this happened.
That is truly awful - probably got a good idea where this was though. But why didn't you add to your list the person who was VIDEOING all this??? What the hell?? - was he/she hoping to post it on YouTube or something????
A sad indicment of how society has become so deplorable.
A 78 year old man is knocked over whilst crossing a street and he is critically injured and lying unconcious in the road.
1) the car that hit him does not stop
2) other cars drive round him
3) passers by stand looking at him
4) no one goes to give assistance
5) no one calls an ambulance
6) man on scooters pulls away from the side of the road, driving round him and ignoring him
He is still lying in the road, cars are still driving around him and eventually a police car stops and calls for the ambulance.
A video clip of this has been released to the public to try and shock the society into feeling guilty for their actions.
When people were interviewed in the street about it, most did not give a damn, not my problem!
I am delieveratly not saying where this happened.
That is truly awful - probably got a good idea where this was though. But why didn't you add to your list the person who was VIDEOING all this??? What the hell?? - was he/she hoping to post it on YouTube or something????
It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.
It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.
Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours ) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone
It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.
Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours ) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone
It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.
Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours ) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone
It could be one of the reasons people did not approach him was fear of law suites. There have been a few cases of "Good Samaritans" being sued by those they tried to help. In the US people are warned not to touch or move a injured person. It would have been better if someone would have made a barricade around him to protect him from more injury from vehicles.
It is very sad to see the vehicles passing him by. I think the TV society we have has made use all like passive viewers instead of involved citizens.
It was captured on security cameras above the street. The police have issued it.
Silly me! I am no longer used to constant surveillance (apart from my neighbours ) here - forgot about security cameras. But still, wouldn't have put it past someone to stand there recording it on their phone
It could be one of the reasons people did not approach him was fear of law suites. There have been a few cases of "Good Samaritans" being sued by those they tried to help. In the US people are warned not to touch or move a injured person. It would have been better if someone would have made a barricade around him to protect him from more injury from vehicles.
It is very sad to see the vehicles passing him by. I think the TV society we have has made use all like passive viewers instead of involved citizens.
First thing, why did the person not stop who hit him? I hope the police find him / her. If the man dies, it is murder. Nothing to do with TV society, it is to do with people not caring, only thinking about themselves. People drive round this man like he was a wounded animal, not a human being. Don't these people have a conscience? I hope they watch this film and it makes them sick of themselves.
First thing, why did the person not stop who hit him? I hope the police find him / her. If the man dies, it is murder. Nothing to do with TV society, it is to do with people not caring, only thinking about themselves. People drive round this man like he was a wounded animal, not a human being. Don't these people have a conscience? I hope they watch this film and it makes them sick of themselves.
Of course, you are correct about the person who did the "hit and run". That clearly was a criminal offence. I was talking about was the rest of the persons who didn't stop to help
I have seen where a duck was crossing the street and people stopped, and someone got out to walk the duck across the highway. Different place, different reaction. Hopefully people will be reminded of social responsibility and be more compassionate towards the rest of the creation.
I have a rescue cat that was almost road kill, but one of the people on the highway stopped, another barricaded traffic with her car to prevent anyone else driving over the kitten while they rescued her. Again, different place, different people.
EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annually in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.
EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annally in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.
This is sooo sad...I wonder how much they get paid? Now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping with my 100% Egyptian cotton sheets.
EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annally in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.
This is sooo sad...I wonder how much they get paid? Now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping with my 100% Egyptian cotton sheets.
Teas it happens everywhere on this unjust world,in every underdeveloped,poor country children's abuse is on daily basis and it is damn outrageous...
EGYPT'S CHILD LABOURERS
caption of the images say:Egyptian cotton is considered to be the most luxurious in the world. Human Rights Watch estimates though that over 1 million children aged between 7 and 12 are employed annally in it's production. Small farmers also claim to be expolited by the large cooperatives that control the market.
This is sooo sad...I wonder how much they get paid? Now I'm going to have a hard time sleeping with my 100% Egyptian cotton sheets.
Teas it happens everywhere on this unjust world,in every underdeveloped,poor country children's abuse is on daily basis and it is damn outrageous...
There are two ways to look at this!
1) Unjust, cruel, abusive etc etc
2) the child labourer is a means to an end for a very poor family. With out their income they would be destitute
I know of initiatives where children that are working because of the poor family, the companies provide schools and other assistance to them. And by companies I mean western companies, for instance Walmart, Nike, Reebok, B&Q. The companies work with the producers/manufacturers to try and get more adults into work and become less reliant on chilren. It cannot be stopped over night, it is a process that takes time.
You may say only God can decide and know what is going to happen next..i imagine you feel sad for her, but she get the chance enjoy life with a loving family. She become source of fun for her family and teach them how to take responsibility...they learn as a family, in bad and good, they ll stick together just like they promised infront of God...
You may say only God can decide and know what is going to happen next..they promised infront of God...
I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.
I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.
İ think this is between you and "God" if you belive Him or not...
And the purpose of picture is not make anybody feel anything...purpose is sharing my feeling...
troubles makes families stronger, keep love burning..if they are family really...but if not, again troubles stop people from living in a lie...
And also to say "ah poor thing" serve a pupose...reminding you, you have a heart and compassion for others...science even not sucseed explain physical evolution, how far emotions
everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...
I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.
İ think this is between you and "God" if you belive Him or not...
And the purpose of picture is not make anybody feel anything...purpose is sharing my feeling...
troubles makes families stronger, keep love burning..if they are family really...but if not, again troubles stop people from living in a lie...
And also to say "ah poor thing" serve a pupose...reminding you, you have a heart and compassion for others...science even not sucseed explain physical evolution, how far emotions
everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...
agreeing with AE here
Suffering makes you noble and glues family together? So all families should undergo compulsory trouble. Sorry, I don't see it like this. Heart and compassion because you go ah you poor thing seeing a disabled person? Heart and compassion means helping, not sighing
You may say only God can decide and know what is going to happen next..i imagine you feel sad for her, but she get the chance enjoy life with a loving family. She become source of fun for her family and teach them how to take responsibility...they learn as a family, in bad and good, they ll stick together just like they promised infront of God...
Meaning, I am gobsmacked that you posted this story, actually posted the photo. You have no choice, your life is blighted, I am sorry but that is how it is. I am sure they will work hard as a family to lead a normal life and you may say, what is normal. I can't answer that. I am not sure how I would cope with this situation and please don't say that God is there to help.
How the most powerful nation disabled itself
US: security’s bottom line
Just 15 numbers tell the history of the past seven years, in which a once wealthy and relatively secure nation near-bankrupted itself, pursued chimeras and funded chaos-causing wars that left it poorer and less safe then ever before.
Once upon a time, I studied the Chinese martial art of tai chi, until I realised I would never locate my “chiâ€. At that point I threw in the towel and took up western exercise. Still, the principle behind tai chi stayed with me, that you could multiply the force of an act by giving way before the force of others; that a smaller person could use the strength of a bigger one against him. Now, jump to 11 September 2001 and its aftermath, and you know the tai chi version of history from there. Think of it as a grim cosmic joke that the 9/11 attacks, as apocalyptic as they looked, were anything but. The true disasters followed and the wounds were largely self-inflicted, as the most militarily powerful nation on the planet used its own force to disable itself.
Before that fateful day, the Bush administration had considered terrorism, Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida subjects for suckers. They were intent on pouring money into developing an elaborate boondoggle of a missile defence system against future nuclear attacks by rogue states. Those cold war high frontiersmen (and women) couldn’t get enough of the idea of missiling up. That was where the money and the fun seemed to be. Nuclear was where the big boys – the nation states – played. “Bin Laden determined to strike in US†the CIA told the president that August. Yawn.
After 9/11, George W Bush and his top advisers almost instantly launched their crusade against Islam and then their wars, all under the rubric of the “global war on terrorâ€. (As Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld pungently put the matter that September, “We have a choice – either to change the way we live, which is unacceptable, or to change the way that they live; and we chose the latter.â€) By then, they were already heading out to “drain the swamp†of evildoers, 60 countries worth of them, if necessary. Meanwhile, they moved quickly to fight the last battle at home, the one just over, by squandering vast sums on an American Maginot Line of security. The porous new Department of Homeland Security, the NSA, the FBI, and other acronymic agencies were to lock down, surveil and listen in on America. All this to prevent “the next 9/11â€.
In the process, they would treat bin Laden’s scattered al-Qaida network as if it were the Nazi or Soviet war machine (even comically dubbing his followers “Islamofascistsâ€). In the blinking of an eye, and in the rubble of two enormous buildings in downtown Manhattan, bin Laden and his cronies had morphed from nobodies into supermen, a Legion of Doom. (There was a curious parallel to this transformation in the second world war. As historian John Dower documented in his book War Without Mercy, before Pearl Harbour American experts had considered the Japanese bucktoothed, near-sighted military incompetents whose warplanes were barely capable of flight. On 8 December 1941 they suddenly became a race of invincible supermen without, in the American imagination, ever passing through a human incarnation.)
Homeland insecurity
When, in October 2001, Congress passed the Patriot Act, and an Office of Homeland Security (which in 2002 became a “departmentâ€) was established, we were welcomed to the era of homeland insecurity. From then on, every major building, landmark, amusement park, petting zoo, flea market, popcorn stand and tollbooth anywhere in the country would be touted as a potential target for terrorists and in need of protection. Every police department would be in desperate need of anti-terror funding. And why not, when the terrorists loomed so monstrously large, were so apocalyptically capable, and wanted so very badly to destroy our way of life? No wonder that, in the 2006 National Asset Database, compiled by the Department of Homeland Security, the state of Indiana, “with 8,591 potential terrorist targets, had 50% more listed sites than New York (5,687) and more than twice as many as California (3,212), ranking the state the most target-rich place in the nationâ€.
In the administration’s imagination (and the American one), they were now capable of anything. From their camps in the backlands of Afghanistan (or was it the suburbs of Hamburg?), as well as in the murky global underworld of the arms black market, al-Qaida’s minions were toiling to lay their hands on the most fiendish of plagues and pestilences – smallpox, botulism, anthrax. They were preparing to fill suitcases with nuclear weapons for deposit in downtown Manhattan. They were gathering nuclear refuse for dirty bombs. Nothing was too mad or destructive for them. Every faint but strange odour – the sweet smell of maple syrup floating across a city – was a potential bio-attack. And everywhere, even in rural areas, politicians were preparing to run imminent-danger, anti-terror campaigns, while urging their constituents to run for cover.
So, thank you, Osama bin Laden for expediting the Department of Homeland Security, glutting an already-bloated Pentagon with even more money, ensuring that all those “expeditionary forces†would sally forth to cause havoc and not find victory in two hopeless wars, enabling the establishment of a vast offshore prison network (and the torture techniques to go with it), and creating a whole new global “security†industry to “thwart terrorists†that was, by 2006, generating $60bn a year in business, its domestic wing devoted to locking down America.
When the history of this era is finally written, Osama bin Laden and his scattering of followers may be credited for goading the fundamentalist leaders of the United States into using the power in their grasp so stupidly and profligately as to send the planet’s sole superpower into decline. Above all, bin Laden and his crew of fanatics will have ensured that the real security problems of our age were ignored in Washington until far too late in favour of mad dreams and dark phantoms. In this lies a bleak but epic tale of folly worthy of a great American novelist. In the meantime, consider the following list – 15 numbers that offer an indication of just what the tai chi principle meant in action these last years; just where American energies did and did not flow; and, in the end, just how much less safe we are now than we were in January 2001, when George Bush entered the Oval Office:
536,000,000,000: the number of dollars the Pentagon is requesting for the 2009 military budget. This represents an increase of almost 70% over the Pentagon’s 2001 budget of $316bn, and that’s without factoring in “supplementary†requests to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the president’s global war on terror. Add in those soaring sums and military spending has more than doubled in the Bush era. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, since 2001, funding for “defence and related programmes... has jumped at an annual average rate of 8%... four times faster than the average rate of growth for social security, Medicare, and Medicaid (2%), and 27 times faster than the average rate for growth for domestic discretionary programmes (0.3%).â€
1,390,000: the number of subprime foreclosures over the next two years, as estimated by Credit Suisse analysts. They also predict that, by the end of 2012, 12.7% of all residential borrowers may be out of their homes as part of a housing crisis that caught the Bush administration totally off-guard.
1,000,000: the number of “missions†or “sorties†the US air force proudly claims to have flown in the Global War on Terror since 9/11, about 353,000 of them in what it still likes to call Operation Iraqi Freedom. This is a good measure of where American energies (and oil purchases) have gone these last years.
509,000: the number of names found in 2007 on a “terrorist watch list†compiled by the FBI. No longer is a Ten Most Wanted list adequate. According to ABC News, “US lawmakers and their spouses have been detained because their names were on the watch list†and Saddam Hussein was on the list even when in US custody. By February 2008, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, the names on the list had ballooned to 900,000.
300,000: the number of American troops who now suffer from major depression or post-traumatic stress, according to a recent RAND study. This represents almost one out of every five soldiers who served in Iraq or Afghanistan. Approximately 320,000 “report possible brain injuries from explosions or other head woundsâ€. This, RAND reports, represents a barely dealt with major health crisis. The depression and PTSD will, the study reported, “cost the nation as much as $6.2bn in the two years following deploymentâ€.
51,000: the number of post-surge Iraqi prisoners held in American and Iraqi jails at the end of 2007. The US now runs “perhaps the world’s largest extra-judicial internment camp†(1), Camp Bucca, in Iraq, whose holding capacity is being expanded from 20,000 to 30,000 prisoners. Then there’s Camp Cropper, with at least 4,000 prisoners, including “hundreds of juveniles†(2). Many of these prisoners were simply swept up in surge raids and have been held without charges or access to lawyers or courts ever since. Add in prisoners (in unknown numbers) in our sizeable network of prisons in Afghanistan, at Guantanamo, and in offshore and borrowed prisons; add in the widespread mistreatment of prisoners at American hands; and you have the machinery for the manufacture of vast numbers of angry potential enemies, some willing to commit almost any act of revenge.
Though there is no way to tabulate the numbers, many tens of thousands of prisoners, at least, have cycled through the Bush administration’s various prisons in these last seven years, many emerging embittered. (And don’t forget their embittered families.) Think of all this as an enormous dystopian experiment in “social networkingâ€, a Facebook from Hell.
5,700: the number of trailers in New Orleans, issued by the Federal Emergency Management Agency as temporary housing after Hurricane Katrina, still occupied by people who lost their homes in the storm almost three years ago. They have been found to contain toxic levels of formaldehyde fumes. Katrina was but one of many security disasters for the Bush administration.
658: the number of suicide bombings worldwide last year, including 542 in Afghanistan and Iraq, more than double the number in any of the past 25 years (3). Of all the suicide bombings in the past 25 years, more than 86% have occurred since 2001, according to US government experts. At least one bomber, who died in a recent coordinated wave of suicide bombings in the Iraqi city of Mosul, was a Kuwaiti, Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi, who had spent years locked up in Guantanamo.
511: the number of applicants convicted of felony crimes, including burglary, grand larceny, and aggravated assault, who were accepted into the US army in 2007, more than double the 249 accepted in 2006. According to the New York Times, between 2006 and 2007, those enrolled with convictions for wrongful possession of drugs (not including marijuana) almost doubled. For burglaries, the number almost tripled, for grand larceny/larceny it more than doubled, for robbery it more than tripled, for aggravated assault it went up by 30%, and for “terroristic threats including bomb threats†it doubled (from one to two). Feel more secure?
132: the number of dollars it took to buy a barrel of crude oil on the international market towards the end of May (4). Meanwhile the average price of a gallon of regular gas at the pump in the US hit $3.88, while the price of gas jumped almost 20 cents in Michigan in a week and 36 cents in Utah in a month. As Memorial Day weekend arrived, a time when Americans traditionally hit the road, the average price for a gallon of gas in the state of California crossed the $4 barrier. Just after the 9/11 attacks, a barrel of crude oil was in the $20 range; at the time of the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, it was at about $30. In other words, since 9/11, a barrel of crude has risen more than $100 without the Bush administration taking any serious steps to promote energy conservation, cut down on the US oil addiction, or develop alternative energy strategies (beyond a dubious programme to produce more ethanol).
82: the percentage of Americans who think “things in this country have gotten pretty seriously off on the wrong trackâ€, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll. This is the gloomiest Americans have been about the “direction†of the country in the last 15 years.
40: the percentage loss “on a trade-weighted basis†in the value of the dollar since 2001. The dollar’s share of total world foreign exchange reserves has also dropped from 73% to 64% in that same period. According to the Center for American Progress, “By early May 2008, a dollar bought 42.9% fewer euros, 35.7% fewer Canadian dollars, 37.7% fewer British pounds, and 17.3% fewer Japanese yen than in March 2001.â€
37: the number of countries that have experienced protests or riots in recent months due to soaring food prices, a global crisis of insecurity that caught the Bush administration completely unprepared. In the last year, the price of wheat has risen by 130%, of rice by 74%, of soya by 87%, and of corn by 31%.
0: the number of terrorist attacks by al-Qaida or similar groups inside the United States since 11 September 2001.
So consider the homeland secure. Mission accomplished.
One last figure, representative of the ultimate insecurity that, by conscious omission as well as commission, the Bush administration has left a harried future to deal with. That number is 387. Scientists at the Mauna Loa observatory in Hawaii have just released new information on carbon dioxide, the major greenhouse gas, in the atmosphere, and it’s at a record high of 387 parts per million, “up almost 40% since the industrial revolution and the highest for at least the last 650,000 yearsâ€. Its rate of increase is on the rise as well. Behind all these figures lurks a potential world of insecurity with which this country has not yet come to grips.
http://mondediplo.com/2008/06/06ussecurity
I neither believe in "god" nor believe that posting voyeuristic photographs of anyone with severe disability so we can all say "ahhh poor thing" serves any purpose.
İ think this is between you and "God" if you belive Him or not...
And the purpose of picture is not make anybody feel anything...purpose is sharing my feeling...
troubles makes families stronger, keep love burning..if they are family really...but if not, again troubles stop people from living in a lie...
And also to say "ah poor thing" serve a pupose...reminding you, you have a heart and compassion for others...science even not sucseed explain physical evolution, how far emotions
everything serve a purpuse dear..you see it or not...
I understand what you are saying..and I do believe for whatever crazy purpose, there is one.
Bombings
Why do so many people hate the USA? Dropping bombs on people really pisses them off!
The USA has bombed the following nations since the end of WW2.
China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1965-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Libya 1986
El Salvadore 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Panama 1989
Iraq 1991-2002
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yogoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001
Iraq 2003
A few of these may have been justified, most were very questionable.
(Original from Australian Options Quarterly No. 31, Summer 2002.)
Some were justified and some were questionablie..I agree.
However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.
However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.
Oh how I wish we lived in such a simplistic world!!!
However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.
Oh how I wish we lived in such a simplistic world!!!
However, if it wasn't for Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer Europe would be speaking German and Asia would be dominated by Japan. It's never popular too make difficult decisions.
Oh how I wish we lived in such a simplistic world!!!
A little known historic fact about Japan/US relations is this fact:
In 1852, Perry embarked from Norfolk, Virginia for Japan, in command of a squadron in search of a Japanese trade treaty. Aboard a black-hulled steam frigate, he ported Mississippi, Plymouth, Saratoga, and Susquehanna at Uraga Harbor near Edo (modern Tokyo bay) on July 8, 1853. His actions at this crucial juncture were informed by a careful study of Japan's previous contacts with Western ships and what could be known about the Japanese hierarchical culture. He was met by representatives of the Tokugawa Shogunate who told him to proceed to Nagasaki, where there was limited trade with the Netherlands and which was the only Japanese port open to foreigners at that time (see Sakoku). Perry refused to leave and demanded permission to present a letter from President Millard Fillmore, threatening force if he was denied. The Japanese military forces could not resist Perry's modern weaponry; the 'Black Ships' would then become, in Japan, a threatening symbol of Western technology.
The Japanese government let Perry come ashore to avoid a naval bombardment. Perry landed at Kurihama (in modern-day Yokosuka) on July 14, 1853 presented the letter to delegates present, and left for the Chinese coast, promising to return for a reply.
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Not exactly the type of action that plants love in the hearts of citizens of another country. Why we can't be more diplomatic?
İSKOÇ GELİNİN ARNAVUT İNADI
İmam nikahlı eşinden 5 kızı bulunan 39 yaşındaki garson, 2 yıl önce Didim'de tanışıp evlendiği İskoç May Cook'tan boşanmak istiyor ama başaramıyor. Hikayenin gerisini ondan dinleyelim:'May çok genç görünüyordu, bana bir erkek evlat verebileceğini düşÃ¼ndüm. Yaşını benden gizledi, 65 yaşında olduğunu evlendikten 6 ay sonra öğrendim. Boşanmak istedim fakat kendisini ikna edemedim. Aksine dinimi değiştirip kendisiyle İskoçya'ya gitmemi istedi. ‘Benim kölem olacaksın’ diyordu...'
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persistence of scottish bride
39 old waiter who has 5 daughter form his religiously married wife ( mean no government paper and if you check him he ll look like single ) wants to divorce from scottish May Cook which he met at didim and get merried..he says
May was looking very young but 6 month afther marriage i learn she is 69 y.o...i wanted to divorce but could not persuade her...she asked me change my religion and go to scothland with her...she was telling me you ll be my slave...
Gaddafi warns Obama against 'inferiority complex'
Wed 11 Jun 2008, 20:28 GMT
[-] Text [+] TRIPOLI, June 11 (Reuters) - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said on Wednesday U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would have an "inferiority complex" because he is black and if elected he might "behave worse than whites."
"We fear that Obama will feel that, because he is black with an inferiority complex, this will make him behave worse than the whites," Gaddafi told a rally at a former U.S. military base on the outskirts of the Libyan capital Tripoli.
"This will be a tragedy," Gaddafi said. "We tell him to be proud of himself as a black and feel that all Africa is behind him because if he sticks to this inferiority complex he will have a worse foreign policy than the whites had in the past."
He was speaking before thousands of cheering supporters at a ceremony to celebrate the 38th anniversary of the departure of U.S. troops from Libya.
Gaddafi, known for his controversial statements, took power in 1969 in a military coup in his oil- and gas-rich North African state. He was shunned for decades by the West, which accused him of supporting terrorism.
His ties with Western countries have improved since Libya announced it was scrapping weapons of mass destruction programs in 2003 and agreed to pay compensation for families of victims of bombings of U.S. and French airliners.
Obama, the son of a Kenyan father and a white mother from Kansas, would be the first African American elected U.S. president. In his campaign he has largely eschewed the rhetoric of racial struggle and drawn support among blacks and whites.
Gaddafi said Obama should adopt a policy of supporting poor and weak peoples such as the Palestinians and be a friend of what he called free Arab peoples rather than U.S. "agents" in the Arab world who, he said, were hated by their own people.
"We still hope he will be proud of Africa and change America and free America of its past policy, namely with the Arabs," said Gaddafi.
Gaddafi saw a dark motive behind a recent speech by Obama in support of Israel. "Obama offered $300 billion in aid to Israel and more military support. He avoided talking about Israel's nuclear weapons," he said.
"We suspect he may fear being killed by Israeli agents and meet the same fate as (assassinated former U.S. President John Fitzgerald) Kennedy when he promised to look into Israel's nuclear program," Gaddafi said.
While the existence of Israeli nuclear weapons is widely assumed, Israeli officials have never admitted their existence and U.S. officials have stuck to that line in public. (Reporting by Lamine Ghanmi; Editing by Tom Pfeiffer and David Storey)
Love my little Toyota....$40 to fill it and it lasts about 2 weeks.....yes, it is twice as expensive as it was before the gas prices went up....but at least I don't need to take out a small loan to fill it up.
today...95USdlls to fill my car's gas tank... this is outrageous!!!!!!!!
What the hell are you driving!!! A hummer?
I wish!!!
but no, it is a Ford Explorer
How many litres is that? Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in
How many litres is that? Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in
What kind of car are you driving? Gas here is about $4 a gallon..
How many litres is that? Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in
What kind of car are you driving? Gas here is about $4 a gallon..
BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!
But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.
suicide watch in case of paparazzi waiting for suicide of Amy Winehouse..hope she will not be tempted to it
What? Where did you see this? The paparazzi are enough to drive the most balanced person to suicide or drink or drugs! See someone down and just kick thema bit more, to make they don't get up! Or if they are not down, how can we get them down??????
BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!
But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.
OMG, so there's no sanity in these measurements, is there! Somehow it really doesn't make sense that a car with a 3 liter engine would make 45 miles on a gallon of gas. I think only Prius can do that!
BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!
But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.
OMG, so there's no sanity in these measurements, is there! Somehow it really doesn't make sense that a car with a 3 liter engine would make 45 miles on a gallon of gas. I think only Prius can do that!
I think 1 UK gallon is about 1.2 US gallons. How far you can go on a gallon of petrol depends on the driver and the road conditions.
BMW 3 series and it does about 45 miles to the gallon - very confusing as we buy fuel in litres and use it in gallons which are not the same size gallons as USA!
But cost of fuel is becoming a world wide problem.
OMG, so there's no sanity in these measurements, is there! Somehow it really doesn't make sense that a car with a 3 liter engine would make 45 miles on a gallon of gas. I think only Prius can do that!
It is a 2 litre engine, 3 series is just the style! I actually drive like a formula one driver and I still get 45 to the gallon! If I drove sedately like (dare I saw it) a woman should, then I would propably get more 50+
Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in
That explains why people from Northern Ireland use petrol stations here - petrol is 1.3 euro and diesel 1.4 per litre
Our diesel is now approx £1.30 litre and it would cost me about £60/£65 to fill my car, but I don't know how much really as I only ever put £50 worth in
That explains why people from Northern Ireland use petrol stations here - petrol is 1.3 euro and diesel 1.4 per litre
How long have you been using the Euro in Northern Ireland, it is part of Great Britain. I thought it was just Eire that uses the Euro. But that works out a little bit cheaper with with an exchange rate of about €1.23 ish to £1.
German Toymaker Launches Barack Obama Doll
By David Gordon Smith
A German toymaker has paid the ultimate tribute to presidential hopeful Barack Obama by immortalizing him in the form of a collector's doll. But the maker of the mini-Obama admits that it was tricky to get the skin tone correct.
That explains why people from Northern Ireland use petrol stations here - petrol is 1.3 euro and diesel 1.4 per litre
How long have you been using the Euro in Northern Ireland, it is part of Great Britain. I thought it was just Eire that uses the Euro. But that works out a little bit cheaper with with an exchange rate of about €1.23 ish to £1.
I am in Eire, I meant that the folks from Northern Ireland (that still uses GBP) buy petrol here, that is in Eire Sorry for not being clear about it! In return we shop in their Argos. Imagine that - prams can get as much as 200e cheaper there (in NI) than here!
I logged on a Polish site similar to Facebook and saw that Poland is obsessed with Howard Webb (the referee that ruled a penalty in Austria's favour in the Poland-Austria game in the 91st minute). I know next to nothing about football so it's not up to me to decide if that was just or not, but the hatred towards that poor guy is so great that he was given police protection! Googling on, I found this site that is a collection of photoshop caricatures of Webb (most of captions in Polish) and his alleged selling of the game. Here's a sample:
The French fashion designer has spent millions buying up houses in the tiny medieval village of Lacoste, but many locals are upset by what they see as his feudal manner.
The French fashion designer has spent millions buying up houses in the tiny medieval village of Lacoste, but many locals are upset by what they see as his feudal manner.
in reference to this topic, I just received a note from my friend who lives close to this castle in S. France:
The French fashion designer has spent millions buying up houses in the tiny medieval village of Lacoste, but many locals are upset by what they see as his feudal manner.
"The village he bought" is a slight exaggeration. He bought the Château (castle) of the Marquis de Sade (the word Sadism comes from that man who was the first noted sadist. The castle was a ruin, was first bought by a mailman who however couldn't restore it because of financial problems. Then Pierre Cardin bought it, restored it in part, and now every Summer there is a festival planned by him with operas, concerts, plays, at the most outrageous prices.
While there might be a few abandoned houses in the village (I never heard however that he bought other than the castle), the villagae is inhabited by the people and their families who were there generations before the Cardin Snob arrived. He is not very popular in the village to say the least. Also now this formerly quiet medieval village is run over by thousands of tourists, of which Cardin profits but not the villagers.
London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.
London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.
Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.
London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.
I dont know if I should feel sorry for the bike riders or the bikes' seat
Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.
Well..
I was overthere as a keen cyclist.
But the comittee refused my participation on the bases of 'I was NOT showing enough flesh'!!
And I was stark naked.
Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.
Well..
I was overthere as a keen cyclist.
But the comittee refused my participation on the bases of 'I was NOT showing enough flesh'!!
And I was stark naked.
Well..
I was overthere as a keen cyclist.
But the comittee refused my participation on the bases of 'I was NOT showing enough flesh'!!
And I was stark naked.
You must have been wearing your Turkishness!
What do you exactly mean by Turkishness? too much hair?
No wonder why he was refused to participate, maybe too much hair was not even considered as being naked. That automatically disqualified him from this bike run..
London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.
Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.
Trying to grab the attention away from the George BUSH visit!
London Naked Bike Run
caption of the images say:A naked bike ride took place in Hyde Park , London , on 14/06/2008. Every year, in cities around the world, people ride naked to celebrate cycling and the human body. The ride demonstrates the vulnerability of cyclists on the road and is a protest against oil dependency.
Are you in there somewhere?? I know you ride a bike.
I think thats him on the right wearing the cycle clips.
i was searching crop signs, crop circles, and i found that , there are 10 crop circle discovered by people in different places of the world only in june 2008
some of them here
2008-06-13 United Kingdom ,Oxfordshire, Uffington Barley
2008-06-10 United Kingdom ,Wiltshire North Downs Barley
2008-06-09 United Kingdom Wiltshire West Kennett Longbarrow Barley
2008-06-07 France, Moselle Marly Barley (?)
2008-06-04 Italy Friuli Venezia Giulia Lignano Sabbiadoro (UD) Wheat
2008-06-03 Korea, Republic of Boryoung City
2008-06-01 United Kingdom Wiltshire Barbury Castle Barley
2008-06-06 United Kingdom Wiltshire West Kennett Barley
Starting today, many of the great cartoons of recent times are visiting New York for a five-week exhibition. For those who have not been paying attention, this presents an excellent chance to catch up on a quarter-century of world affairs and an eternity of human folly. Armed with sketch pads and banana peels, cartoonists have always stood ready for the high noons of history.
My tomatoes growing on my terrace....I can barely wait until they are completely ripe!
Oh, lucky you. I planted 4 different varieties, Cherokee purple, green tiger, orange flame and another. They all died. I'm so upset. I was really looking forward to them, and in particular the Cherokee purple. It has a smokey salty taste....yum! This is the third year in that spot, so maybe I should have rotated the crop.
Very sad...but I've got a lot of beans! I'll work on the soil for next year.
Yes, we have a problem....I think it's the industrialization. The chickens are kept in such tiny cages they aren't healthy, the beef, the same thing. They fed them ground up remains of other cows, chickens and such. They do not have the system to process that, they are grass eaters. Giving them feed that was animal based caused the problem...so they say.
California grower recalls salmonella- tainted spinach
Reuters
Published: Thursday, August 30, 2007
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California produce grower Metz Fresh LLC said on Wednesday it voluntarily recalled fresh spinach in grocery stores and food service packages after a sample tested positive for salmonella.
The privately held King City, California-based company and a spokesman from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said there have been no reports of illness or problems related to the spinach.
New member 'HANDSOME'!! - a pretender to the throne?? Wake up 'THE' wherever you are and deal with this imposter!
Yeah,
I saw it too..
I pmed catwoman about it and asked this new impostor to be deleted immediately.
But she refused. Ama, She said very nice things about me in her reply.
She said:
'Come on Thehandsom, we all know you and we all love you (ME specially! and you know it) ..
We all know he can NOT be as 'handsome' as you are. It is not possible.
And dont forget "the importance of THE" and the missing "e" '.
Gay Cupcakes
caption of the images say: Tori, left, and Kate Kuykendall, with daughter Zadia, after their wedding ceremony in West Hollywood, Calif., on Tuesday, June 17, 2008. With a quiet pride and a sense of history, hundreds of gay and lesbian couples across California wed on Tuesday, giving a human face to a landmark court decision and a powerful opening salvo in what is expected to be a bruising fall campaign here over the issue of same-sex marriage.
Nazi anthem lyrics used in mix-upFrom correspondents in
SWISS television station SRG has apologised for mistakenly putting the words of the old Nazi Germany national anthem as subtitles instead of those of the present German one before the Euro 2008 Group B match with Austria on Monday.
Both the Nazi version and the present-day one come from the same song, 'das Deutschlandlied' composed by August Heinrich Hoffmann in 1841 from music by Austrian composer Joseph Haydn.
Zurich
June 19, 2008 02:53am
Article from: Agence France-PresseFont
Nazi anthem lyrics used in mix-upFrom correspondents in
SWISS television station SRG has apologised for mistakenly putting the words of the old Nazi Germany national anthem as subtitles instead of those of the present German one before the Euro 2008 Group B match with Austria on Monday.
Both the Nazi version and the present-day one come from the same song, 'das Deutschlandlied' composed by August Heinrich Hoffmann in 1841 from music by Austrian composer Joseph Haydn.
"It is an inexcusable error," one of those in charge of the subtitling service for the station told Blick, though he added it was the fault of two young female editors.
Used in its entirety as the national anthem from 1922, the Nazis, once they came to power, only sang the first verse.
Post World War II Germany sing just the third verse, and not the lines that inadvertent viewers were treated to on Monday which included 'Deutschland Deutschland uber alles.'
Zurich
June 19, 2008 02:53am
Article from: Agence France-PresseFont
Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..
Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..
Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..
I was at church on Sunday and a man had one on his collar. Everyone was in prayer so it was quite silent. The mans wife went to pick it off and the Cicada screamed..Everyone in the church laughed as the man carried it out. I have never known a bug to scream, but they do...
Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..
I was at church on Sunday and a man had one on his collar. Everyone was in prayer so it was quite silent. The mans wife went to pick it off and the Cicada screamed..Everyone in the church laughed as the man carried it out. I have never known a bug to scream, but they do...
Cicadas!!!!!!!!!!Glad your not where I live. They come out every 17 years and annoying. It's like the movie 'The Birds'. They are everywhere..on your back, in your hair, in the car..and they are sooooo loud.... we are talking thousands and thousands of these horny creatures..
I was at church on Sunday and a man had one on his collar. Everyone was in prayer so it was quite silent. The mans wife went to pick it off and the Cicada screamed..Everyone in the church laughed as the man carried it out. I have never known a bug to scream, but they do...
Amazing! Great link, thanks for it. I am the one in my office that takes care of all bugs. I capture them and release them, but I must say these are daunting. It would be a good subject for a horror movie. It's amazing nobody has done it yet.
The McDonald’s here has golden arches, the same golden arches as anywhere else in the world. The food is prepared the same assembly-line way, too. But there is an invisible, or more precisely, divine, element in bringing that burger to the plate that the uninitiated may not be prepared for.
“Inshallah,†or “God willing,†the counterman said as he walked off to see about a burger without onions at the McDonald’s on the Alexandria Desert Road, 30 miles from the center of Cairo.
The meaning of insallah means: that's it: Kismet. Fate. Nothing you can do about.
Well the meaning is that you can't do anything about it yet, but it more directly means 'If god wills', 'God willing' 'İf that's what god wants'. Something like that I guess.
The meaning of insallah means: that's it: Kismet. Fate. Nothing you can do about.
Well the meaning is that you can't do anything about it yet, but it more directly means 'If god wills', 'God willing' 'İf that's what god wants'. Something like that I guess.
İnşallah means a positive thing usually,it has nothing to do by 'if i can do anything or not'!
Of course we have everything to do with it,you will do that thing or you wont do it by yourself ALLAH wont do it for you.
İt means..By the will of ALLAH,i will do this or that,or something will happen
İn a positive ways,but people tend to use it in another way,like i will do it İF ALLAH want 'means i may and i may not'
İn informal speaking we use it in many ways,sometimes means we wont give a clue of what will happen,or what we will do .
But its meaning,that 'with ALLAH will'
İ read it now,and actually,its not like this
İts a preferable word used by all Muslims not only Egyptians,thats why you knew about it in Türkiye too
Means as i stated by the will of ALLAH
İts not a bad word to even write such article about it and surely not a word to make fun of!
But,here we have many people same like in Türkiye too against head scarves,and appearently against anything religious too,even words!
Even they are free not to wear it if they want,but they also hate it when other women wearing it!
We use the word lots,its as giving hope that 'this thing' will happen by the will of ALLAH which is greater will we know of 'spiritually'
İts a word incuding hope and doa too
Anyway,its ridiculous to discuss the words we say and why we say it!
So,let them talk
Actually I use it too. I try not to, because it feels false to say something in the name of an Allah that I don't believe in, but it sounds so nice and is so easy to say I say it when I firmly hope something to happen.
This is a joke ! They talk about things they dont even understand and didnt bother to ask about too then write article about it and publishing it,what a responsibility !
İm reading it and laughing about it too lol
''the Muslim declaration of belief, as a routine greeting. So instead of “How are you? Fine, and you?†she will say to a friend “There is no God but God,†to which the friend will complete the statement. “And Muhammad is his prophet.†''
Muslims greeting is not like this its 'Elsalamu Alikum ve Rahmatulah we Barakatoh'
Meaning,Peace,mercy and blessing be upon you from ALLAH
And the other one replies same but add the word wa 've' and 'We Alikum Elsalam ve Rahmatulah we Barakatoh'
As you see its very nice words to greet each others
Now people just use Alsalam Alikum and the other replies We alikum elsalam
Muslim or Christian,both can say
As for '“There is no God but God,†to which the friend will complete the statement. “And Muhammad is his prophet.†'
'La İlah illa ALLAH' 'Muhamadon Rasulu ALLAH'
But it has nothing to do with religious things what so ever
İts mmmmm,well something people believe it make good omen
Many use it while leaving,as in like
As you know in Şahada Muslims say both
So they believe or used to believe when 2 persons say like this,then they will meet again
As you see has nothing to do with religion believe,because its not in İslam this way,but its a Traditional believe people now use it like habit,and good omen.
And yes when something good or even bad happened,we thank ALLAH,we believe everything come from ALLAH,good or bad,and for a reason
Of course people do this things,government,...ect
We dont believe that human doesnt have a choice,human has the choice but ALLAH know about it before it happened,and planed it for reasons
And on a parallel way human chose to do it and act it this way
Ohhh,long story,but yes we Thank ALLAH for everything good or bad,not just Egyptians but Muslims
DK and Catwoman arguing about me in 2 threads! Don't I have anything to say? Gals stop fighting, immediately think of a price to offer my husband (he accepts all currencies plus a number of domestic animals) please bear in mind that the price is quite high as I come in a twopack for two more months.
By Faiza Saleh Ambah
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, May 28, 2007; Page A01
JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia -- Manal Fageeh never liked the abaya, the long black cloak she was forced to begin wearing at 13. She resented the fact that it was obligatory for women in Saudi Arabia, and the black absorbed heat in the often-scorching climate.
When Fageeh, a health industry executive, appeared at a recent business conference in a floor-length white abaya made of light cotton and monogrammed with an M, some of the attendees were shocked, she said. But others were inspired.
Built by the Turkish architect Vadat Dolokay who won an architecture competition, the Shah Faisal mosque in Islamabad, Pakistan is one of the largest in the world accommodating more than 100,000 worshippers in the various halls and courtyards.
In the centre of the mosque in the main prayer hall, suspended from the ceiling is a giant chandelier made of gold plated aluminium tubes weighing 7.5 tons which uses 1000 electric bulbs. The qibla wall (the direction in which prayer is made towards Mecca) is decorated with glazed tiles from Turkey.
Ros, please just post the link of the picture, and not the entire searching machine stuff. You simply click right on the picture, --> properties --> there you will find the link of the picture itself:
Sophie Marceau is one of France's biggest stars, and the epitome of Parisian chic. From 'Braveheart' to Bond, men have fallen at her feet. But would her undoubted charm work on our very own Deborah Ross?
A small fly - it just flew right in there without so much as a by your leave. Please don't concern youselves about either of us though - I have not gone blind and the fly is now beyond your concern.
A small fly - it just flew right in there without so much as a by your leave. Please don't concern youselves about either of us though - I have not gone blind and the fly is now beyond your concern.
Bit like the poor little fox I saw this morning, displayed across the road, with motorists doing their best to avoid spreading it even further
Pashe Keqi recalls the day nearly sixty years ago when she decided to become a man. She chopped off her long black curls, traded in her dress for her father's baggy trousers, armed herself with a hunting rifle and vowed to forsake marriage, children and sex.
Roswitha, can I ask you a favour? İf you have a long article to post, please just post the first paragraph or a short paragraph, and then provide us with a link.
These posts unnecessarily fill the forums with long posts, and they make my fingers hurt from scrolling
Thu Jun 26
North Pole Could be Ice-Free This Summer
Arctic sea ice could break apart completely at the North Pole this year, allowing ships to sail over the normally frozen top of the world.
The potential landmark thaw - the first time in human history the pole would be ice-free - is a stark sign of global warming, according to an article Friday on the web site of the The Independent, a London newspaper.
"Symbolically it is hugely important," said Mark Serreze of the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado. "There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water." ..........
some people on this site that never say thank you for help or translations... And I don't mean thanking me because I don't do many translations
manners cost nothing
some people on this site that never say thank you for help or translations... And I don't mean thanking me because I don't do many translations
manners cost nothing
Just take yourself a nice stiff drink of post #667 and you will forget all about the lack of graciousness from some members!
You are right, I have noticed it too. It seems that for some it is about a sense of entitlement. Like because they have joined a Turkish language website.....where people are gracious enough to translate freely.....they shouldn't have to thank anyone. Those people, who are constantly asking for translations, might want to remember that the purpose of this site is to learn the language.
Ex-US pilot Gail Halvorsen returned to Germany for the ceremony
Germany has been commemorating the 60th anniversary of the Berlin airlift, when the Western allies kept the city supplied despite a Soviet blockade.
Veterans of the airlift, many of whom are in their 80s and 90s, attended ceremonies in Berlin and Frankfurt.
The American and British-led airlift lasted for more than a year, and involved planes delivering everything from coal to sweets.
It was one of the biggest humanitarian air relief missions in history.
REUTERS
Pentagon making case against Iran
A DoD report released to Congress ahead of a vote on extreme punitive measures on Iran accuses Tehran of assisting Afghan insurgents.
In its first ever Report on Progress toward Security and Stability in Afghanistan to the US Congress, the Pentagon claims it has 'evidence' of Iranian involvement in the war-torn country.
"There is evidence that the insurgency ... has been provided with lethal aid originating in Iran since at least 2006," says the report.
It is 'unclear what role, and at what level the Iranian government plays in providing this assistance', the 72-page document adds.
Iran, however, says it has helped in the reconstruction of Afghanistan and has played only a constructive role in the country.
The release of the report comes ahead of a vote on the imposition of harsher US sanctions on Iranian banks, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) and any energy companies that have invested $20,000,000 or more in the Iranian petroleum or natural gas sector in any given year since the enactment of the Iran Sanctions Act of 1996.
If the bill passes, US President George W. Bush will also be urged to gain world support to prohibit the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products and to impose stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran.
Introduced by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and considered a tacit declaration of war against the Islamic Republic, the bill has seen opposition but may pass.
House Resolution 362 and the Senate version Resolution 580, known as the 'Iran War Resolution', are believed to be a prelude to the imposition of a naval blockade restricting exports to oil-rich Iran.
This bill has gained 208 co-sponsors in the House and 29 in the Senate. It will likely be put to a vote after July 4.
The illegal, immoral poll in Zimbawee which puts the ignorant dictator safely back in the seat, the seat which he never vacated, whilst his drongo's go round killing and intimidating his "citizens" into voting for him.
The illegal, immoral poll in Zimbawee which puts the ignorant dictator safely back in the seat, the seat which he never vacated, whilst his drongo's go round killing and intimidating his "citizens" into voting for him.
didn't he also close down the opposition parties which were certain to win?
My daughter had a severe problem with a tooth during her pregnancy. It had a mercury filling that needed to be removed, in order to deal with an infection. Two local dentists wouldn't drill the filling out because of the risk of mercury poisoning to her baby. After weeks of dreadful pain and a great many visits to dentists, it was finally dealt with at a hospital. They told her the danger to unborn babies is usually during the first few months only. But, as has been publicised over the years, mercury may be dangerous to anyone with such a filling.
I think non mercury fillings being used more often here now too.
1-Cambodian little girl 12 yo, Phektra lives in the Cambodian village Skoun that is well-known for its black fried spiders. Phektra catches and collects the tarantulas in the forest behind her house and sells the fried eight-legged at the bus station in order to earn some money for the school. Her mother died 2005 and her father died 2006 by HIV/AIDS.
2-Spa Di Da - The first and only full service spa that caters exclusively to kids. Pedicures, manicures, Chocolate Kiss facials, ManiBaby+PediBaby. For 18 months and younger. Cupcake Pedicure, waxing, yoga, hair extensions.
Spa Di Da is the brainchild of children's services entrepreneur Maria Botham. She developed the world's first spa for children because she has two of her own young daughters and could not find a place where the staff is trained to cater to their half pint needs. Based in Los Angeles, Spa Di Da offers trendy haircuts, temporary tattoos, chocolate facials, lemon manicures, cupcake pedicures, even ear piercing. Kids get all the perks of an adult salon and spa, but in a unique and magical environment designed specifically for children.
2-Spa Di Da - The first and only full service spa that caters exclusively to kids. Pedicures, manicures, Chocolate Kiss facials, ManiBaby+PediBaby. For 18 months and younger. Cupcake Pedicure, waxing, yoga, hair extensions.
Hair extensions, pedicures and waxing to 18 months and younger?
This is outrageous, brainwashing kids with this kind of useless, harmful 'beauty' practices from such an early age. Horrible.
2-Spa Di Da - The first and only full service spa that caters exclusively to kids. Pedicures, manicures, Chocolate Kiss facials, ManiBaby+PediBaby. For 18 months and younger. Cupcake Pedicure, waxing, yoga, hair extensions.
Hair extensions, pedicures and waxing to 18 months and younger?
This is outrageous, brainwashing kids with this kind of useless, harmful 'beauty' practices from such an early age. Horrible.
"Wemen are oppressed by all religions. All religions are anti-women. Religions are made for men and men made religions for their own fun and interest."
"If you want to be a human being, a good person, you have to first be bad in the society - good people have to defy society and its conventions."
"Women are oppressed by all religions. All religions are anti-women. Religions are made for men and men made religions for their own fun and interest."
Absolutely
Quote:
"If you want to be a human being, a good person, you have to first be bad in the society - good people have to defy society and its conventions."
Not quite sure here...not everything about societies is bad, rules are necessary to impose order, without them we'd be in an anarchistic hell...Yet, I disagree with blind obedience to all the rules, people should fight to amend those outdated and/or pointless
"Women are oppressed by all religions. All religions are anti-women. Religions are made for men and men made religions for their own fun and interest."
Absolutely
Quote:
"If you want to be a human being, a good person, you have to first be bad in the society - good people have to defy society and its conventions."
Not quite sure here...not everything about societies is bad, rules are necessary to impose order, without them we'd be in an anarchistic hell...Yet, I disagree with blind obedience to all the rules, people should fight to amend those outdated and/or pointless
This woman is from Bangladesh, so I think she was mainly speaking about her society, but I think it can be also extrapolated to other societies especially if you mean 'the courage to be against established and often 'sacred' social rules or accepted behaviors'.
However, anarchy is really hell, anarchy is by definition lack of hierarchy, lack of central power, which translates into nobody telling you what you can and cannot do, unless everybody agrees to some common rules.
I was suprised to see on a packet of polo's that they meet the halal rules, so curious as I am I googled it and there is a list of halal sweeties!!! Nestle Halal sweetie list
I was suprised to see on a packet of polo's that they meet the halal rules, so curious as I am I googled it and there is a list of halal sweeties!!! Nestle Halal sweetie list
Are Muslims that strict??
Yes, at least some are.
The Islamic Halal certification process is somewhat new and still going through refinement. It is similar to the Jewish Kosher certification and process. Kosher certifation is very sophisticated. With recent indistrialization of food processing and genetic engineering they have been very busy.
I have read of incidents where some prepared supposedly "halal" foods were sold in the UAE, When they were tested in laboratories and found to have pork products.
The food in question was reported to have been produced in Saudi Arabia.
From my own experience, I would say they are. There is a large Muslim population in the town where I work and all the schools with Muslim pupils provide a Halal option for school meals.
Asda sells Halal chicken and lamb now too. They also sell gummy sweets that don't contain gelatin, by Dunhill I think.
I posted a very comprehensive list of Halal confection quite a while ago, but it is advisable to continue to check ingredients as sometimes they change for certain products and new products are added all the time.
Not that I haven't noticed before, but our Congress are a bunch of idiots. $162 billion dollar war funding bill.
What the heck what's another $162 billion dollars.....Now everyone wants to give crap to George W...but he is one person and one person only, it's up to Congress to decide. Now let's see the same people in Congress, majority democrats who also voted to go into Iraq passes a war funding bill. And what do we have to look forward to...Obama..
yes, it's really lovely, $160 billion for the war, and at the same time they cut by %10 medicare payments to doctors and some time ago bUSH vetoed a child healthcare bill. they should all go to prison, preferably in guantanamo! and someone explain to me how is all this possible in a democracy, where 80% of the population doesn't support the policies? this is blatant dictatorship!
My son works for Walmart in the summer. As a benefit he gets an employee discount, but I don't shop there even to take advantage of his discount. They make him work second shift and they don't even give him a pay differential for working those hours. They have the biggest turnover at the one he works at. But to him it's only a job partime not a career, since he's in college. Thank God!
I don't hear too many of these cases here at our local Wal-Mart but I think the biggest problem is that manyof these employees not even complain about it.... while they should stand up, speak out against these kind of practices :-S ..
I have seen (at our local WM) employees who have been working there for years, some of these employees have no education and they mistakenly "believe" this is all they are capable of doing as their main source of income. They think they have no choice and are stuck to this because they are afraid to lose their job and not being able to find something else locally. And the temporary ones, like students or seasonal employees really don't care as they know they will be leaving that job soon.
My son works for Walmart in the summer. As a benefit he gets an employee discount, but I don't shop there even to take advantage of his discount. They make him work second shift and they don't even give him a pay differential for working those hours. They have the biggest turnover at the one he works at. But to him it's only a job partime not a career, since he's in college. Thank God!
Not just the Far East where they abuse their workers then! Perhaps someone should video it and let Jay Leonard show it on TV, like he did once before, only that time he was exposing child labour, right in front of the CEO nose!
Everest is closed for a clean up at last! The Chinese are closing Everest so that a major clean up can take place at Base Camp. It is littered with everything from oxygen cannisters, to ruck sacks, tents and even the occasional corpse!
“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organised violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.†(Samuel Huntington)
http://www.globaliamagazine.com/?id=288
Granada: Al-Andalus shines on
What does it mean to the Muslim world, that Islam has re-entered Spain in a time when Islam is being degraded globally?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: I think it is a sign of the vitality, the validity and relevance of Islam in this modern age. Also it is a sign that Islam has not been erased from the hearts and minds of the people of Spain. Eight hundred years of Islamic civilisation of Alandalus has left so much knowledge that is still used today by Ummah of Islam and non-Muslims. But as a living element, a living existential element it has been erased from the surface of the Iberian peninsula but, it is a sign of the vitality, validity and relevance of Islam and the people are taking it on existentially and in their daily lives.
Question: The history of Spain is vast and extraordinary, what are the sentiments of the Muslim population to his momentous undertaking of reviving the Deen in Spain?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: I would say in the last thirty years, after the death of Gen. Franco there had been an increase in the sympathy towards Islam. In the intellectual circles, academic circles and by those who have knowledge of culture and history. The Islamic era was one of the greatest times in Spain and this may sound natural and true to you as a Muslim but to the Spanish people it is very new. In the last five hundred years we have been thought that the country was a Christian country invaded by Islam and it destroyed our unity. This has been basically the official catholic version of history up until the seventies and that has completely changed, in the textbooks even in the discourses of officials. Last year in 2006 the Prime Minister said that Spain is indebted to Islam for that history. All this is very new. People will now say Islam is not terrorism, Islam is not backwards we know it in our cities, we know it in our monuments, we know it in our own history. This is the truth and it can grow faster there then in any other European country.
Question: The EMU extends to all European Muslims. What is the role played by the Spanish Muslim community and the Granada mosque in establishing Assabiyyah throughout Europe?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: I think everyone who comes to Granada - there are many Muslims from the United Kingdom, Germany and France - who come for holidays and cultural visits. Everyone recognizes that Granada has a very strong meaning and has a very strong place in the hearts and memory of the Muslims, we are located there. Not only that, but we are located in the most historical quarter opposite the Alhambra palace and our mosque has become a model for all of Europe, in that it is a mosque open to all people, not only Muslims. It fulfills the role of 'Ibadah, which is the first role of a Mosque and it is the heart of the community and also it is a place of interaction to the society. Every day, there are many activities. Everyday of the year it is open to the people, to the non-Muslims of Granada - in Granada City but also visitors, researchers, teachers, university groups and schools. The Mosque of Granada has been one of the founding members of the EMU. We have attended all the assemblies and general meetings of EMU. We have a strong contribution to make because we join history and present time and I think Granada will become a place of hospitality, meeting, protection and discussion for all European Muslims.
Question: What sets Granada apart from other European countries?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: Granada in history is the last place of sovereign power of Islam in Europe. It was a monarchy, which surrendered power to the Christian monarchy in 1492 and then for another two hundred and fifty years the indigenous Spanish Muslims remained under Christian rule. They were persecuted by genocide and religious persecution done by the inquisition. They remained up until the middle seventeenth century in large communities. The Alhambrah - for its great beauty and extraordinary craft and talent in its architecture - was not destroyed. When Spain goes around the world and does promotions for tourist fairs in New York or Singapore the Alahambra is the symbol- like the Taj Mahal is for India, which is a Muslim monument - the Alhambrah is always the symbol for Spain.
Granada is a small provincial town with tree hundred and fifty thousand inhabitants. For the past twenty years it has also been a model city in all of Spain where immigrant Muslims have been accepted and had made themselves a niche in society and have contributed to the economy but not as industrial workers. They have created an atmosphere and ambiance of Islamic revival with their souks and bazaars and have somehow recreated a moor-ish presence in the city, which is very beneficial to the economy and tourism. They have also somehow managed to integrate with society without major clashes or problems - all of that makes Granada significant.
Question: After going through the Granada Mosque web-site I could not help but note that the community is very lively and active what are your expectations for 2007?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: We are, after three years, becoming more organised and professional if you want to call it that. In our approach, programs, teaching and reaching out to society intellectually by our publications. We are hoping to have more open conferences and international conferences at the mosque. We have an event in July on the 6th, 7th and 8th which is a summer celebration of Islam in Europe that we do every year. We also plan to invite scholars all through the year and we have a plan of talks and conferences.
Question: The Granada mosque has one of the finest Khatibs in Shaykh Muhammed Kasbi. Can you tell me something about him and his influence on the community?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: Shaykh Muhammed Kasbi is a gift from Allah of incalculable value, to the Muslims in Spain and the community in Granada. He is extracted from another age. His own life experience, he tells us, is exactly like that of the Sahabah, milking goats, travelling on donkeys and going to get water from the well. He belongs to a very well known area, which has dedicated itself entirely to scholarship. One remarkable thing is how a man who never traveled out of southern Morocco speaks such a high Arabic. Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula get dumb when they hear him, he has much eloquence, poetry and sayings from his language, which in itself is a miracle.
The region of Souse where he comes from is called the spiritual reserve of the Maghrib. They have nothing else, no agriculture and no cattle so the land is basically desert but, they have cultivated, at a very high level, extraordinary Madrasahs, that maintains the same method and teachings for a thousand years. Allah has given him the gift of discrimination and wisdom and dept that has made him understand perfectly and subtlety the realities of Europe today.
So he is not just someone who knows the books and laws and the Qur`aan, he is someone who judges and interprets and counsels, always with great wisdom and with great sharpness. He has also been trained as a Qadi. He knows how to judge in contexts of place, time and the people. He is not just a recording of knowledge, which he is, he is a high quality recording to correct knowledge. His advice individually, collectively, to the authorities and to the leaders of the community is of the highest value.
Question: All across the Muslim world, in countries such as South Africa, Germany and many others there are barriers between the indigenous Muslims and the migrant population, is this the case in Spain?
Abdulhasib Castiñeira: It is becoming. It has never been the case with Spain, being connected with South America and North Africa, geographically speaking. The condition and relationships of the immigrant and indigenous population are much better than in other European countries. It is by taking a sort of moral and intellectual leadership that will prevent them from being marginalised and ghettoized which has happened to the economic immigrants of the UK. They have defined themselves as ghetto and allowed to be put in a corner because of the lack of taking on the responsibility as Muslims, to be role models with clear intellectual understanding of the challenges of the moment. We are trying to erase the barriers by bringing everyone up to the highest responsibility of Islam in this age.
We have succeeded in different ways. Last year, twenty leaders from the Muslim communities of Spain met with the Prime minister. We also visited the ministry of Justice, which deals with minorities and religion and we are visited regularly by the local governor. We are strongly attempting to establish that the Muslims have an important role to play in modern lives.
an interview with Abdulhasib Castiñeira, Director of the Granada Mosque, conducted in Germany, on the 30th of January.
They came...but I notice they do not seem to see very well. When I was on my hammock with a floral shirt on, the hummingbird looked at it a looooong time...got very (really too) close before going to another flower. They do have long beaks. I have a cloth on a table that could be seen from outside the window that a hummingbird was fixated on as well. It drove the cats inside c r a z y!!!
The nasturtium has a sweet honey in the base of the flower. They also have nice seed pods that have a wasabi type of taste and effect. They are great in salads too.
A photo of İzmir (konak) at the right upper side of the website. It confirmed once again what a warm feelings I have for that city, and now I feel all melancholic, in a way Orhan Pamuk would be proud of!
About 70 Turkish women have protested in Istanbul after a court found a woman guilty of exhibitionism for fishing in what was termed 'improper clothing'.
The protesters marched across the iconic Galata Bridge chanting slogans.
'It's not exhibitionism, it's male abuse!' and 'State, take your hands off my body!' they cried.
Rows of bemused fishermen watched as they passed - many were wearing strappy tops, flimsy sun-dresses with plunging necklines, or shorts.
The incident they were protesting about occurred last summer, on the same bridge, when men complained that the woman's clothing was 'improper.'
Turkish newspapers quote court documents as saying she was wearing a lightweight outfit like a nightdress, which blew up in the wind.
Last week a judge upheld the men's complaints.
'Conservative pressure'
Women protesters say finding the woman guilty of 'exhibitionism' is disturbing proof that conservative thinking is on the rise here.
'They think women should stay home and dress properly,' complains Cigdem Mater.
'The question is what is proper? No-one has the right to tell us what to wear, that is the point.'
None of the men who witnessed the actual incident were about on Saturday. But other fishermen expressed their disapproval at the ruling.
'I don't think anyone should be arrested because of their clothing. People cross this bridge wearing all sorts of things,' one of the fishermen said.
'But unfortunately there is conservative pressure on people now because we have a religious government.'
The AK Party - which is led by devout Muslims - has been in power since 2002. Some are concerned Turkey is becoming more conservative under its rule.
'Men here are not well educated,' another fishermen adds.
'It's the mothers that fail to teach them. But overall, the state sides with men when things should be equal.'
The protesters sang songs and carried banners calling for the law on exhibitionism to be overturned.
They argue it reinforces the patriarchal order in Turkey and discriminates against women.
Men who groped a woman on Taksim Square last New Year's Eve were fined 57 lira ($45, £23).
The fisherwoman in a flimsy dress was given a five-month suspended prison sentence for exhibitionism.
An American hiker stranded in the Bavarian Alps for nearly three days was rescued after using her sports bra as a signal, police in southern Germany said Monday.
Berchtesgaden police officer Lorenz Rasp said that he helped lift 24-year-old Jessica Bruinsma of Colorado to safety by helicopter on Thursday after she attracted the attention of lumberjacks by attaching her sports bra to a cable used to move timber down the mountain.
An American hiker stranded in the Bavarian Alps for nearly three days was rescued after using her sports bra as a signal, police in southern Germany said Monday.
Berchtesgaden police officer Lorenz Rasp said that he helped lift 24-year-old Jessica Bruinsma of Colorado to safety by helicopter on Thursday after she attracted the attention of lumberjacks by attaching her sports bra to a cable used to move timber down the mountain.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25333829/
Haha ! Must have been a big sports bra! I dont think mine would draw attention to it, if I waved it about
An American hiker stranded in the Bavarian Alps for nearly three days was rescued after using her sports bra as a signal, police in southern Germany said Monday.
Berchtesgaden police officer Lorenz Rasp said that he helped lift 24-year-old Jessica Bruinsma of Colorado to safety by helicopter on Thursday after she attracted the attention of lumberjacks by attaching her sports bra to a cable used to move timber down the mountain.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25333829/
Haha ! Must have been a big sports bra! I dont think mine would draw attention to it, if I waved it about
Dr. Gary Gumpert stated that we live in a complex world where we depend on the other for information and we do it by relying on communication technology. However this technology is used sometimes against our human rights. For instance, the government developed the extremes ability to watch the other. In the U.K. due to fear of terrorism 4.2 million cameras watch 6 million people. The question that pops into the mind is: How does this relate to privacy, free expression, the right to be alone, the trust one place in his/her leaders, governments? It seems like it's the invasion of our privacy even if they do it for security reasons. Besides surveillance cameras are another matter. Usually they are used by police departments in order to collect information. They do it privately and one is never free from observation. It's like as if there was a transperent curtain on all of us. So, from all these it is perceived that technology hinders our privacy considerably without our knowing. It's because the digitalization has led to the manipulation of the mankind.
Electronic reality
Dr. Gary Gumpert focused on the idea of the trust in media in his lecture. The role of technology in our life is changing its dimension. It is entering the limits of people's privacy in addition to its advantages. He questioned if the media with the help of technology tells the truth to the audiences. He mentioned about the protection the government provides with the exchange of freedom. The more we ask for protection the more we lose from our freedom because technology makes the government able to watch people without their realization. Dr. Gumpert calls this system as “social contractâ€. This contract depends on the bridge of trust. However, the question is who we should or can trust? This contract contradicts with the idea of privacy. In developed countries such as UK and USA, technology has almost eliminated privacy. Satellites are watching people. They are like under surveillance as Dr. Gumpert called.
He supported his arguments with a slide show and showed how live broadcastings are actually not real. There is a considerable amount of time between the moment someone talks in a live program and the moment it reaches you. Meanwhile, there can be made many chances in the live program which we think is absolute truth. Live screens can be delayed or stopped with machines which he calls “magical machinesâ€.
Briefly, he questioned what we see may not be the truth. Technology plays a great role in this irony. Dr. Gumpert underlined that, it has reached its point to violate human rights for privacy in some countries. It makes us feel scary for the future.
For ladies who are not happy with their boobs breast enlargement using acupuncture
White Lotus Cosmetic Acupuncture's method of breast enlargement using acupuncture. Its been described as the new boob job for ladies who don't want to undergo a boob job. Women who are unhappy with their breasts can now have revolutionary treatment, which promises larger and more perky boobs without having to resort to implant surgery. A clinic in Queensland, Australia, arranges cosmetic acupuncture for clients - a procedure which involves having needles inserted under the skin to stimulate blood flow to the chest area.
ps..I wonder if I should put up some pictures of Perky boobs..
yet another barbaric fashion of the west - women mutilating their bodies for the sake of men. similar to chinese women in the past cutting their feet to make them smaller because it was seen as attractive... :-S
yet another barbaric fashion of the west - women mutilating their bodies for the sake of men. similar to chinese women in the past cutting their feet to make them smaller because it was seen as attractive... :-S
There are women who want boob jobs for some of the same reasons as they change their hair color, wear makeup. We are always looking to improve or maybe impress someone other than ourselves. Why are we not content with our natural bodies and appearance? Whether it's wanting bigger boobs, hating our nose, wishing we didn't have freckles..does this resort from the pressures of male society? I think it's only part of the equation.
yet another barbaric fashion of the west - women mutilating their bodies for the sake of men. similar to chinese women in the past cutting their feet to make them smaller because it was seen as attractive... :-S
There are women who want boob jobs for some of the same reasons as they change their hair color, wear makeup. We are always looking to improve or maybe impress someone other than ourselves. Why are we not content with our natural bodies and appearance? Whether it's wanting bigger boobs, hating our nose, wishing we didn't have freckles..does this resort from the pressures of male society? I think it's only part of the equation.
why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh I can think of a few answers: to stop their man constantly looking at other girls with 'big' boobs; not to deny the fullfilling feelings from their partners; self confidence..
But i agree with you teas. why should 'having boob job' be more different than painting toe nails or dying hair..
why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh I can think of a few answers: to stop their man constantly looking at other girls with 'big' boobs; not to deny the fullfilling feelings from their partners; self confidence..
But i agree with you teas. why should 'having boob job' be more different than painting toe nails or dying hair..
Handsom, this answer is not worthy of you, it is pathetic. I believe you can do better!
why would a woman want a 'boob' job eh I can think of a few answers: to stop their man constantly looking at other girls with 'big' boobs; not to deny the fullfilling feelings from their partners; self confidence..
But i agree with you teas. why should 'having boob job' be more different than painting toe nails or dying hair..
Handsom, this answer is not worthy of you, it is pathetic. I believe you can do better!
An Indonesian woman who was famous across Asia for her supposedly supernatural powers of sexual healing has died at the age of 128, according to her family.
Mak Erot developed a family business empire offering penis extensions and cures for other sexual maladies using the power of Muslim prayer and a cocktail of 141 herbs. One of her 40 grandchildren, Haji Saifuloh, 37, explained that the secret was revealed when Mak Erot prayed for 141 days following the death of her mother in the 1940s.
"Her prayer was answered with this gift of sexual healing," he said. A voice from the spirit world told his grandmother, "You can cure anyone who has a small penis or whose penis has died. You can cure them!"
Her early patients were occupying Japanese soldiers during the Second World War and the first clinic opened in 1945. The enterprise grew as dramatically as Mak Erot claimed her patients did. Now there are several clinics around the country including Haji Saifuloh's, which he recently moved to a Jakarta hotel to take advantage of the extra parking.
The Telegraph recently visited the ill-lit room in the hotel where he practises his skills. A collection of wooden phalluses which patients can choose between as a model for their own was on display.
"Doctors are amazed with the results of our herbs," he boasted. "The famous sexologists have given our clinics the thumbs up."
He said that "countless" satisfied customers have paid him £40 each for a 30-minute consultation. "It always works," he claimed.
The claims made for Mak Erot's powers were large and, whatever their truth or otherwise, found a wide audience of believers. Indonesian newspapers carry many advertisements for imitators seeking to associate themselves with her talents.
Earlier this year her fame reached the silver screen in the teen comedy "Between you, me and Mak Erot". In the film the young protagonist launches himself on a series of sexual adventures but his partners find the encounters unrewarding. His problems worsen when he consults one of Mak Erot's imitators rather than the old lady herself.
"The audience laughed all the way through," said Suyadi, 68, a cinema employee.
I really don’t care if McCain’s trophy wife is proud of her country. She is just another GOP Stepford Wife as vacant as the previous ones. Whoopie for anorexic-looking Cindy McCain in her red $5000 Yves St. Laurent power suit, with her triple string of cultured pears, her bleached blond hair and her shiny new face-lift telling us she’s proud of America.
Cindy sometimes looks like a wax replica of a political spouse.
It's the ad of the secular republican newspaper "Cumhuriyet".
The woman with the headscarfe saying with a male voice "It's ofcourse me who decides what I want", and then the announcer says "the woman of the republic is being destroyed/disappeared"
I've just bought the novel "A Thousand Splendid Suns" by Khaled Hosseini. I've never read "The Kite Runner" but may do if I enjoy this text whilst on holiday (guess where )
Protected from the Profanities of the Bellowing Fans
The Iranian film "Offside" is about a group of girl soccer fans who smuggle themselves into Tehran's Azadi Stadium, despite the ban on women spectators. Ariana Mirza presents Offside and its director Jafar Panahi
"Offside" has been awarded the Silver Bear Jury Prize at the Berlinale international film festival. The decision to feature Iranian films at the festival was both hailed and criticized
| She is pretty. Neither a baseball cap nor war paint is enough to disguise her. She has hardly made it into the stadium before being discovered. In an improvised detention room, half a dozen girls are waiting to be transported by the vice squad. These young Iranian women refuse to bow to the absurd ban on female spectators at stadiums.
In Offside, Jafar Panahi tells the conciliatory tale of a brave young woman and a good-natured soldier. The comedy with a double happy end takes place in 2005 during the Soccer World Cup qualification round between Bahrain and Iran.
Although the whole country can be seen united in its hope for victory, women are still not permitted to attend the games. And what is the justification for this discriminatory ban? No one has a convincing answer. Not even the recruits from the provinces, who have been assigned to guard the girls.
Outmatched by their captive adversaries
Jafar Panahi allows his heroines to express themselves in their own words. The film's framework was delineated from the start, but the girls' outrage is real and they all have their own arguments against the ban. "This is absolute nonsense. We are allowed to go to the movies and even sit next to men – in the dark!"
Jafar Panahi's uncritical criticism: The societal circumstances are demasked as preposterous, but no one is explicitly blamed
| One of the guards shyly responds that women must be protected from the profanities of the bellowing fans, only to get an earful of profanity from one of the detainees, a self-conscious girl from the capital.
His choice of male protagonists also shows Jafar Panahi has a good sense for character. The young amateur performers convincingly convey an attitude towards life that highlights their yearning for the peace and quiet back home on the farm. The young soldiers from the provinces prove to be awkward and reluctant guards of the quick-witted girls from the capital. The naïve country boys are outmatched by their captive adversaries, and not only in their knowledge of soccer.
Offside is a comedy filmed in a neo-realist style. The realistic genre of production has a tradition in Iran going back to the pioneering film work of Abbas Kiarostami. The 45-year-old Jafar Panahi acquired his first feature film experience as assistant director to Kiarostami. The quiet, yet penetrating narrative style of the old master can be observed in all of Panahi's previous films.
In an interview with the press, Panahi made clear just how dependant the development of the film was on real events. "If Iran had lost against Bahrain, I wouldn't have shot the film to the end." That is because the overflowing joy after the winning qualification game was absolutely necessary for the plot. Only the subsequent general delirium on the streets of Tehran makes the happy end of the story plausible.
Laurels abroad
Jafar Panahi's last film, Talaye Sorkh (Crimson Gold), made in 2003, was not allowed to be shown in Iran. The screenplay for Offside was credited to Shadmehr Rastin, a colleague of Panahi unknown to the censorship authorities. Panahi didn't want to endanger approval for shooting. Now, after the film's success at the Berlinale, the director hopes that Offside will also be seen by the Iranian public.
Panahi declared in Berlin, however, that if the censors mar his film with cuts, he would prefer not to screen the film in his home country.
Offside repeatedly makes clear to the viewer just how important Iran is for Panahi. When, at the end of the film, the Iranian anthem "Oh land of jewels, your soil is the wellspring of the arts" strikes up, remarkably enough, the patriotic emotionalism doesn't seem naïve and artificial, but rather comes across as a solemn declaration of love.
One can only hope that the Iranian censorship authorities judge the patriotic tone of the film as an important point in its favor. This subtle comedy and its unmistakable plea for women's rights should have the chance to be seen in Iran.
Bahman Ghobadi and New Kurdish Cinema
Ten Movie Theaters for 40 Million People
At the Berlin Film Festival, Bahman Ghobadi's "Turtles Can Fly" confronts viewers with the current situation in the Kurdish region of Iraq. Ariana Mirza reports on Ghobadi's latest project and the special intensity of Kurdish films
Interview Hany Abu-Assad
Shooting "Paradise Now" amid Israeli Rockets
The film "Paradise Now" by Hany Abu-Assad, which was shown in competition at this year's Berlin Film Festival, is the first feature film to take on the theme of suicide bombers. Igal Avidan interviewed the Palestinian filmmaker
Dossier
Iranian Cinema
Iran's film culture has been transformed since the Islamic revolution: from the state propaganda films to today's socially critical productions. We take a look at the various facets and examine its resonance in the WestPublished: 28.02.2006 - Last modified: 28.02.2006
I suppose Chinese are free to tattoo even their bottoms They were not kidnapped, forced into Buddhism and then tattooed into slavery.
Btw, I found your respond very strange. Your way of communication is a bit like childish not of a grown-up.
I speak of grapes and you think I meant water-melons.
I think I have a very good idea of your intention. Actually I find most of your posts very odd, and quite frankly, offensive.
It seems you really don't like Muslims, are suspicious adn distrustful of Turks and really don't have much nice to say about those peoples. You post things about things you really don't know much about. You don't include your references, but expect everyone just to accept what you post.
We now know that dioxin exhibits serious health effects when it reaches as little as a few parts per trillion in your body fat. Dioxin is a powerful hormone disrupting chemical. By binding to a cell's hormone receptor, it literally modifies the functioning and genetic mechanism of the cell, causing a wide range of effects, from cancer to reduced immunity to nervous system disorders to miscarriages and birth deformity. Because it literally changes the functioning of your cells, the effects can be very obvious or very subtle. Because it changes gene functions, it can cause so-called genetic diseases to appear, and can interfere with child development. There is no "threshold" dose - the tiniest amount can cause damage, and our bodies have no defense against it.
We now know that dioxin exhibits serious health effects when it reaches as little as a few parts per trillion in your body fat. Dioxin is a powerful hormone disrupting chemical. By binding to a cell's hormone receptor, it literally modifies the functioning and genetic mechanism of the cell, causing a wide range of effects, from cancer to reduced immunity to nervous system disorders to miscarriages and birth deformity. Because it literally changes the functioning of your cells, the effects can be very obvious or very subtle. Because it changes gene functions, it can cause so-called genetic diseases to appear, and can interfere with child development. There is no "threshold" dose - the tiniest amount can cause damage, and our bodies have no defense against it.
http://www.cqs.com/edioxin.htm
polychlorinated dibenzo dioxins and polychlorinated dibenzo furans (PCDD/PCDF) may be the most toxic substances known to man. The biggest threat exposure to PCDD and PCDF's is from the incineration of plastics. Those who live closest to municipal waste and biological waste incinerators are most at risk. Also, open garbage burning and plastics on campfires is another way PCDD/PCDF's are created.
Best way to avoid exposure is to avoid open burning.
Roswitha, KeithL - I forbid you to revive my secondary school nightmares - you're like my biology and chemistry teachers combined! I'm beginning to have a trauma again!
Roswitha, KeithL - I forbid you to revive my secondary school nightmares - you're like my biology and chemistry teachers combined! I'm beginning to have a trauma again!
Poor Daydreamer....maybe they should have posted these in the translation forum...I think it says, "exposure to chemicals is BAD!"
Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo
..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.
Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo
..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.
Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.
Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo
..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.
Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.
But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?
You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!
Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..
Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.
Lucky to be alive!!!!
There is a very large gap between what happened and cable TV! You know sometimes people would rather not be alive under these conditions.....and we know all too well the results of that.
were created for a reason. What has been done to the 'prisoners' or what ever they are is a disgrace, and in the opinion of many knowledgable people, a war crime.
In my opinion this is a betrayal to the US citizens as well.
But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?
You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!
Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..
is that it?
I can't tell you how ashamed I am of these actions.....deeply ashamed!
Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..
is that it?
That is true to a certain extent. Human rights of non-Americans are violated because the US can get away with it. When they can get away with violating human rights and democracy at home, they do that too. One blatant example are the stolen elections in 2004.
All the foreign conquests are only benefiting a tiny minority of rich Americans - owners of corporations. 90% of people are living in increasingly worse conditions, with less rights, in more poverty, less healthcare every day (a while ago bush didn't sign some document which resulted in taking away some important healthcare benefits for children, recently the government cut 10% of medicare payments to doctors)..
But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?
You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!
Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..
is that it?
You hit it right on the head handsom. The US treatment of prisoners held at Guantanamo is abhorrent. Our government would be screamning at the top of their lungs if another country was doing the same to American citizens. I can only hope that we elect a new President that will end the insanity and do the right thing. It's time to prove the charges or let these people go!!!
There is a very large gap between what happened and cable TV! You know sometimes people would rather not be alive under these conditions.....and we know all too well the results of that.
were created for a reason. What has been done to the 'prisoners' or what ever they are is a disgrace, and in the opinion of many knowledgable people, a war crime.
In my opinion this is a betrayal to the US citizens as well.
Horrendous torture!!
Bin Laden driver describes treatment at Guantanamo
..he said: "She touched me above the knee." "Where?" Swift asked. "Did she touch your thigh?" "Yes," he said, adding that he began answering her questions after she implied she was going to touch his groin.
Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated. But I also don't believe cable tv and three meals a day are warranted either. These are prisoners my god..terrorists who wouldn't think twice about killing you or your family. I'm so tired of hearing how terrible these prisoners are treated. They should feel lucky to be alive. But I highly doubt they feel this way, since they have no appreciation for life to begin with.
But dont you think you /Americans have breached very basic (almost all of them actually) human rights which you claim to be the base of your country, with Guantanamo?
You turtured people, held them without a trail, detained the childeren!!
Freedom and human rights are for you, Americans ONLY..
is that it?
Please reread my first sentence."Not that I agree how some of these prisoners are treated". I guess this got lost somehow. Yes, there has been mistreatment, but I also don't have alot of sympathy for terrorists. I dont believe that terrorists should have any rights and since they are not protected under the U.S. Constitution, should they be tied up in the U.S. Courtsystem. They do have access to the International Red Cross & civilian lawyers.
So what do we do take them all back to the U.S.? They would be executed in civilian prisons. Some of these people who have been released, their own countries don't even want them back.
Israel, without the United States, would probably not exist. The country came perilously close to extinction during the October 1973 war when Egypt, trained and backed by the Soviet Union, crossed the Suez and the Syrians poured in over the Golan Heights. Huge American military transport planes came to the rescue. They began landing every half-hour to refit the battered Israeli army, which had lost most of its heavy armor. By the time the war was over, the United States had given Israel $2.2 billion in emergency military aid.
The intervention, which enraged the Arab world, triggered the OPEC oil embargo that for a time wreaked havoc on Western economies. This was perhaps the most dramatic example of the sustained life-support system the United States has provided to the Jewish state.
Israel was born at midnight May 14, 1948. The U.S. recognized the new state 11 minutes later. The two countries have been locked in a deadly embrace ever since.
Washington, at the beginning of the relationship, was able to be a moderating influence. An incensed President Eisenhower demanded and got Israel’s withdrawal after the Israelis occupied Gaza in 1956. During the Six-Day War in 1967, Israeli warplanes bombed the USS Liberty. The ship, flying the U.S. flag and stationed 15 miles off the Israeli coast, was intercepting tactical and strategic communications from both sides. The Israeli strikes killed 34 U.S. sailors and wounded 171. The deliberate attack froze, for a while, Washington’s enthusiasm for Israel. But ruptures like this one proved to be only bumps, soon smoothed out by an increasingly sophisticated and well-financed Israel lobby that set out to merge Israeli and American foreign policy in the Middle East.
Israel has reaped tremendous rewards from this alliance. It has been given more than $140 billion in U.S. direct economic and military assistance. It receives about $3 billion in direct assistance annually, roughly one-fifth of the U.S. foreign aid budget. Although most American foreign aid packages stipulate that related military purchases have to be made in the United States, Israel is allowed to use about 25 percent of the money to subsidize its own growing and profitable defense industry. It is exempt, unlike other nations, from accounting for how it spends the aid money. And funds are routinely siphoned off to build new Jewish settlements, bolster the Israeli occupation in the Palestinian territories and construct the security barrier, which costs an estimated $1 million a mile.
i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...
i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...
Now Ayhan this is careless talk, the thought police will come and take you away. We do not want peace and harmony on this site.
i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...
Now Ayhan this is careless talk, the thought police will come and take you away. We do not want peace and harmony on this site.
hey John,thats great to see you again after long time ''abi'',shh don't say to polices where i'm pls
i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...
It's always heartening to hear such stories. Thank you 67
i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...
It's always heartening to hear such stories. Thank you 67
its not a story really peace,thats only real face of Turk&Kurd brothership,but pity a very little minority trying to show it as a big problem for their political prejudices and hates..
i was at a Kurdish Düğün(wedding ceramony) this evening.Turks&Kurds were side by side and heart by heart,were cheering with Kurdish&Turkish falk songs and were sharing same joy.So really shame on all dirty hands who trying to spoil this great unity and brothership...
Yes, I was at a wedding a few years ago where there was a big mix of Kurds and Turks all getting along and much love. I think it happens more often than most realize.
Ahmet Yildiz, 26, a physics student who represented his country at an international gay gathering in San Francisco last year, was shot leaving a cafe near the Bosphorus strait this week. Fatally wounded, the student tried to flee the attackers in his car, but lost control, crashed at the side of the road and died shortly afterwards in hospital. His friends believe Mr Yildiz was the victim of the country´s first gay honour killing.
Almost half of Egyptian women harassed daily: poll
CAIRO (AFP) - Almost half of Egyptian women are sexually harassed on a daily basis with more than half of Egyptian men admitting lewd behaviour, the Egyptian Centre for Women´s Rights said on Thursday.
The group polled 2,020 people -- including men and foreign women -- in Cairo, and the centre´s director, Nihad Abul Qomsan, said that the figures showed harassment was on the rise.
Of those surveyed, 83 percent of Egyptian women and 98 percent of foreign women said they had been harassed at some point, while 46 percent of Egyptian women and 52 percent of foreign women said they were harassed daily.
Most women said they were harassed in the street or on public transport, with harassment defined as "any unwelcome behaviour of a sexual nature which makes women feel uneasy and gives them a feeling of insecurity."
Abul Qomsan said that almost two-thirds of Egyptian men -- 62 percent -- admitted harassing women, including those wearing Islamic headscarves.
"This shows that the belief that harassment is linked to women who wear indecent clothing is false," she said, condemning the fact that in the deeply religious country women often feel responsible despite being victims.
The centre said that last year only 12 percent of women went to the police with a harassment complaint.
In 2006, women´s rights activists angrily spoke out against what they called the authorities´ acceptance of sexual harassment against women, after a mob of men openly molested women in central Cairo.
The interior ministry said it did not receive any formal complaints and has never admitted any mass harassment occurred despite the incident being widely reported in the press and some bloggers posting footage on the Internet.
A nationwide survey showed that about 71 per cent of Chinese women have been sexually harassed in their lives.
She said that sexual harassment is a problem commonly confronted by women but so far she has not accepted any such cases because few women have been willing to speak out about their experience, let alone bring it to court.
Sexual harassment mainly happens in two places: public transportation and the workplace.
ps..I am just trying to prove that how easy to find these things
All state pupils may be taught Islamic traditions as part of compulsory citizenship lessons
State school pupils are set to be taught Islamic traditions and values in compulsory citizenship lessons.
The move - part of a package of initiatives announced by Communities Secretary Hazel Blears yesterday - is designed to curb extremism.
Education campaigners warned however against giving Islam a privileged position over other faiths.
Other plans announced by Miss Blears also drew criticism - including a state-funded panel of Islamic scholars and theologians to provide community leadership.
Prominent Muslims said this scheme was naive because Government endorsement would erode the credibility of those taking part, especially among the young and disaffected.
Another measure will see Muslim children being taught citizenship lessons by imams in mosque schools - in the hope that they will be better equipped to resist extremist messages.
Many Muslim youngsters in the UK attend evening classes at madrassah schools attached to mosques, where imams give instruction in the Koran and Islamic history.
Ministers want imams to stress that the Koran places a duty on all Muslims to be good neighbours, carry out voluntary work and play an active part in civic society.
Pilot schemes will begin in October in London, Leicester, Birmingham, Oldham, Rochdale, and Bradford.
The Department for Communities and Local Government has tasked the Islam & Citizenship Education group with producing the teaching materials for mosques.
The organisation, however, wants to extend its remit to mainstream state schools by ´teaching Islamic traditions and values in the school citizenship curriculum´.
David Conway, senior research fellow at the Civitas think-tank, said: ´Some will see this as another sign of a creeping process of Islamisation - an insidious process which plays down the Christian basis of our culture and encourages children to learn more and more about Islam´s contribution.
´Muslims are still a relatively small minority in Britain and, while I have nothing against children in our multi-religious society learning about each other´s faiths, for one particular faith to be privileged in mainstream schools seems to me pointless, and won´t make for greater harmony.
´I fear it will play into the hands of the small minority who want to see the Islamisation of Europe, and believe they will triumph through sheer numbers.´
Unlike religious education classes, citizenship lessons, which do not cover issues of belief, are compulsory.
Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, said: ´We should not single out one particular faith. Citizenship is supposed to be secular.
´Children can learn about particular religious values in religious education lessons. That´s why parents have the right to withdraw. It´s a very different matter to promote a particular faith´s values as part of compulsory citizenship lessons.
´It seems to me dangerous to single out the one faith which is probably linked to the most problems with terrorism at the moment for special treatment.´
Khalid Mahmood, project manager of Islam & Citizenship Education, stressed that the project was at a very early stage.
He said: ´The material is being developed for the madrassahs but we are putting it together so that people in mainstream schools would also be able to use it.´
Miss Blears announced details of the panel of 20 leading Muslim experts which will have £100,000 in state funding.
Based at Cambridge University, the experts will be expected to compile reports on key issues in the lives of British Muslims, such as the wearing of Islamic veils by women.
Miss Blears insisted the new panel would be independent, adding: ´It is not for Government to dictate on matters of faith or religious teaching.´
Dr Azzam Tamimi, of the Institute of Islamic Political Thought in London, said the scheme was doomed to failure.
He said: ´This is a naive initiative. This not how Muslim education or awareness works.
´When a Muslim individual seeks advice or knowledge he or she would usually go to a person they consider to be credible or an authority, and usually Muslims are suspicious of government-sponsored or organised commissions.´
Dr Tamimi told BBC Radio 4´s Today Programme ministers were trying to dictate to Muslims over religious awareness and education.
Lawmakers in Iran are considering a proposal to make the death penalty automatic for those who leave the Muslim faith.
Abe Ghafari of Iranian Christians International, Inc. (ICI) was at least a little surprised to learn the news. "Before, it was like an option that an Islamic judge could decide to use or not to use -- but now it will become an automatic thing. And from the language of the legislation, it seems like something that cannot be appealed," Ghafari contends.
The death penalty would primarily apply to those who convert to the Christian faith. "There are large numbers of conversions from Islam, maybe even in the tens of thousands every year, and this is causing concern in the Islamic circles in Iran," Ghafari explains.
People who use the Internet to convert people away from the Muslim faith will also be subject to the death penalty. Ghafari was asked if this information shocked him. "Yes, it does a bit because we do know that under Islamic law of Iran, there was always this option of issuing death penalties for any conversions from Islam. So this was already available, but it looks like they just want to escalate persecution – making the death penalty almost automatic for anyone who converts from Islam," Ghafari adds.
ZZ likes me so much How nice that JUST our news are at the regular daily news which cought zz eyes
´´ According to the 2006 census figures, the population, including those living abroad, is estimated to have reached 76.5 million at a growth rate of 37% over the 1996 figure.
Males :37,100,855
Females : 35,478,177 ´´
Now we are almost 80 Million,so yes,those percentage must be even logical too We are a country which women NORMALLY,and daily too been harassed by men,then report it !
We spend our day in police stations reporting lol
Two unidentified Afghan Women chat with each other a few minutes before they were executed by Taliban in Ghazni province, Afghanistan, on late Saturday, July 12, 2008.
The rest of that song is that,its a long one tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmGY9LrDmN0&feature=related
This song was at a very famous movie called Audience Idol ´Ma´abodat el gamahir´ معبوده الجماهير the movie was between him and a very famouse singer too called Şadia
Was one of the greatest movies,contain many great songs too,some of them are
This is for you Ros,
The song that very much close to everyone´s heart specially if they were travelling abroad
Called Sawah means the one who travel much and not settling on one place
İ have tried to find video of the whole song its long,that one is old but longest as i could find
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9lXn69a2_k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBXMIV093v8
Search this سواح the name of the song you will find many
عبد الحليم حافظ the name of singer
Ps:i can send you some of his songs if you like,pm me about it.
The date on my flight tickets . . . I thought 23rd was Thursday but WEDNESDAY jumped out at me when I went to check my flight times, and I´ve been running round like a headless chicken for the rest of the day. No sleep for me tonight.
i watched the city which i live in from a high place,and realized there r so different events under each house light,in some of em happiness,in some of em,sadness,in some of em violence,in some of em a new baby,in some of em dead etc...life is really great puzzle
The date on my flight tickets . . . I thought 23rd was Thursday but WEDNESDAY jumped out at me when I went to check my flight times, and I´ve been running round like a headless chicken for the rest of the day. No sleep for me tonight.
Heheheh. Have a nice trip (although I don´t know where you´re going..)
i watched the city which i live in from a high place,and realized there r so different events under each house light,in some of em happiness,in some of em,sadness,in some of em violence,in some of em a new baby,in some of em dead etc...life is really great puzzle
i watched the city which i live in from a high place,and realized there r so different events under each house light,in some of em happiness,in some of em,sadness,in some of em violence,in some of em a new baby,in some of em dead etc...life is really great puzzle
true... true...
atleast we agreed on somethings,but i hope you don´t teasing?
A story in Wednesdays Independent showing two young Roma Gypsy girls lying dead on a beach off Naples in Italy. Holiday makers walk by oblivious, uncaring, that there are two girls that have just drowned in the sea and left on the beach for three hours. The beach remained open and people carried on sunbathing. The photo of these two girls on the beach amidst holiday makers, someone was kind enough to donate their beach towels to cover them, has shocked Italy.
The girls had been trying to sell trinkets to holiday makers with their cousin. The girls went into the sea to cool off, unable to swim, when the current pulled them and smashed them into the rocks. The cousin was able to get out and raise the alarm, but it was too late for the sisters age 13 and 15.
The moral of this story is that Roma Gypsys are hated in Italy, and the photo has shocked the nation, realising what an uncaring, unhuman act this was.
The worlds first ever sand hotel has been created on the beach at Weymouth in Dorset and is accepting its first guests for £10 a night but guests have been advised there are no toilet facilities available in the hotel It took 1000 tonnes of sand and a team of four sculptors working 14 hours a day for seven days to build the structure on the English beach.
Guests can book to stay in the hotel which includes beds made out of sand until the rain washes it away
A Guernsey based company Creative Coffins has turned to biodegradable cardboard to provide a green alternative to wooden coffins .
The firm originally a design agency also print specific designs on coffins . As far as we´re concerned its just packaging said Geed Kelly co founder of Creative Coffins . The company began producing coffins in May and its website has been inundated with requests . We get hundreds of enquiries every week said Kelly . Weve had interest from Hollywood to Australia and South Africa to Indonesia . Weve had very positive feedback from funeral directors . Creative Coffins started after a simple request from a friend who was planning his funeral but couldnt find an environmentally friendly coffin . It is now producing caskets that range from £295 off the shelf to £1250 bespoke.
The worlds first ever sand hotel has been created on the beach at Weymouth in Dorset and is accepting its first guests for £10 a night but guests have been advised there are no toilet facilities available in the hotel It took 1000 tonnes of sand and a team of four sculptors working 14 hours a day for seven days to build the structure on the English beach.
Guests can book to stay in the hotel which includes beds made out of sand until the rain washes it away
I take it there is no room service either. I must admit this takes alot of talent..pretty cool. Thanks for sharing this.
A Guernsey based company Creative Coffins has turned to biodegradable cardboard to provide a green alternative to wooden coffins .
The firm originally a design agency also print specific designs on coffins . As far as we´re concerned its just packaging said Geed Kelly co founder of Creative Coffins . The company began producing coffins in May and its website has been inundated with requests . We get hundreds of enquiries every week said Kelly . Weve had interest from Hollywood to Australia and South Africa to Indonesia . Weve had very positive feedback from funeral directors . Creative Coffins started after a simple request from a friend who was planning his funeral but couldnt find an environmentally friendly coffin . It is now producing caskets that range from £295 off the shelf to £1250 bespoke.
You have got to be kidding me. Please when I die do not bury me in a cardboard box, I think I deserve better. Those damn treehuggers.
Division of Epidemiology, American Health Foundation, New York, NY 10017.
A hospital-based, case-control study of 235 male patients with laryngeal cancer and 205 male control patients was conducted to determine the effects of exposure to diesel engine exhaust and diesel fumes and the risk of laryngeal cancer. All patients were interviewed directly in the hospital with a standardized questionnaire that gathered information on smoking habits, alcohol consumption, employment history, and occupational exposures. Occupations that involve substantial exposure to diesel engine exhaust include mainly truck drivers, as well as mine workers, firefighters, and railroad workers. The odds ratio for laryngeal cancer associated with these occupations was 0.96 (95% confidence interval, 0.5 to 1.8). The odds ratio for self-reported exposure to diesel exhaust was 1.47 (95% confidence interval, 0.5 to 4.1). An elevated risk was found for self-reported exposure to diesel fumes (odds ratio, 6.4; 95% confidence interval, 1.8 to 22.6). No association was observed between jobs that entail exposure to diesel fumes, such as automobile mechanics, and the risk of laryngeal cancer. These results show that diesel engine exhaust is unrelated to laryngeal cancer risk. The different findings for self-reported diesel fumes and occupations that involve exposure to diesel fumes could reflect a recall bias.
Married to Another Man
Israel´s Dilemma in Palestine
Two rabbis, visiting Palestine in 1897,observed that the land was like a bride,"beautiful,but married to another man". By which they meant that, if a place was to be found for Israel in Palestine, where would the people of Palestine go? This is a dilemma that Israel has never been able to resolve.
No conflict today is more dangerous than that between Israel and the Palestinians. The implications it has for regional and global security cannot be overstated. The peace process as we know it is dead and no solution is in sight. Nor, as this book argues, will that change until everyone involved in finding a solution accepts the real causes of conflict, and its consequences on the ground.
Leading writer Ghada Karmi explains in fascinating detail the difficulties Israel´s existence created for the Arab world and why the search for a solution has been so elusive. Ultimately,she argues that the conflict will end only once the needs of both Arabs and Israelis are accommodated equally. Her startling conclusions overturn conventional thinking---but they are hard to refute.
Ghada Karmi is one of the world´s most renowned commentators on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and a well-known figure on British radio and TV. Born in Jerusalem, she was forced to leave as a child in 1948 and grew up in Britain where she became a physician, academic and writer. Currently, Karmi is a research fellow and lecturer at the Institute of Arab and Islamic Studies, University of Exeter. She is the author of several books, including her most recent, widely acclaimed memoir, In Search of Fatima.
by Palest. author Ghada Karmi
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The problem in the Middle East is not Iraq as they want you to believe - it is Israel, and Israels war against the Palestinian people. It is the tragedy of Palestine, still unresolved, that is the real issue...
They say they are looking for weapons of mass destruction. To them we say look in Israel!
Bush and Blair say they are punishing Iraq for breaching United Nations resolutions, to them we say what about Israel?
Bush and Blair say Iraq has possible links with international terrorism. To them we say go to Israel to see actual state terrorism.
Bush has a list of rogue states that he wants to tackle, but he´s missed out the one rogue state which occupies other peoples land and has weapons of mass destruction - Israel!
When all the evidence is taken into account, males can be considered the fragile sex, a leading psychiatrist has said.
According to British psychiatrist, Dr Sebastian Kraemer, even before they are born, males are more fragile. While in the womb, a male foetus is more vulnerable to external stress and obstetric complications, than a female foetus.
At birth, girls are, from a development standpoint, more mature than boys. Dr Kraemer points out that the more development problems there are in a child, the more sensitive the care they require. Yet, he adds, difficult babies often receive less good care, precisely because they are more problematic to look after.
Boys are also more vulnerable to maternal postnatal depression, which can trigger conditions such as hyperactivity in them.
When all the evidence is taken into account, males can be considered the fragile sex, a leading psychiatrist has said.
OMG, I have always suspected this!!!
Catwoman...some damn psychologist got paid a lot of money to do research on something we already knew! We need to apply for a federal grant to study why thehandsom can´t cook! Nobody knows the answer to that!
Catwoman...some damn psychologist got paid a lot of money to do research on something we already knew! We need to apply for a federal grant to study why thehandsom can´t cook! Nobody knows the answer to that!
I know! But these days you have to give links for everything, your own supreme genius doesn´t count...
Regarding handsom, I suspect that he can cook very well, he just pretends he can´t so that his wife does all the work - very old trick that works for a lot of men. But have you noticed that when men are PAYED for cooking, they suddenly don´t have all these insurmountable issues with doing it? I haven´t seen even one female cook in Turkish restaurants.
A magnitude 5.8 earthquake has rattled Los Angeles, California.
yeahhhhh!! I felt it
I am not in LA, but I am only a couple of hours away.When that happened,I was quietly doing some work then out of the sudden the ground started moving... I think here in Southern California we are used to earthquakes
by Colin Wells
A gripping intellectual adventure story, Sailing from Byzantium sweeps you from the deserts of Arabia to the dark forests of northern Russia, from the colorful towns of Renaissance Italy to the final moments of a millennial city under siege....
Byzantium: the successor of Greece and Rome, this magnificent empire bridged the ancient and modern worlds for more than a thousand years. Without Byzantium, the works of Homer and Herodotus, Plato and Aristotle, Sophocles and Aeschylus, would never have survived. Yet very few of us have any idea of the enormous debt we owe them.
The story of Byzantium is a real-life adventure of electrifying ideas, high drama, colorful characters, and inspiring feats of daring. In Sailing from Byzantium, Colin Wells tells of the missionaries, mystics, philosophers, and artists who against great odds and often at peril of their own lives spread Greek ideas to the Italians, the Arabs, and the Slavs.
Their heroic efforts inspired the Renaissance, the golden age of Islamic learning, and Russian Orthodox Christianity, which came complete with a new alphabet, architecture, and one of the world´s greatest artistic traditions.
The story´s central reference point is an arcane squabble called the Hesychast controversy that pitted humanist scholars led by the brilliant, acerbic intellectual Barlaam against the powerful monks of Mount Athos led by the stern Gregory Palamas, who denounced "pagan" rationalism in favor of Christian mysticism.
Within a few decades, the light of Byzantium would be extinguished forever by the invading Turks, but not before the humanists found a safe haven for Greekliterature. The controversy of rationalism versus faith would continue to be argued by some of history´s greatest minds.
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The worlds most expensive box of chocolate!
The ultimate sweet experience in the guise of the worlds most expensive box of chocolates has gone on sale at Harrods for £5,000 . Made by the renowned Lebanese chocolatier Patchi , every part of the box has been made using the finest materials . The box is wrapped with genuine leather and refined hand made silk design originating from India and China . Inside the box the forty nine hand wrapped chocolates are , separated by gold and platinum linings. Every piece of chocolate is produced with the finest ingredients , and decorated with , a gold and Crystal flower and a handmade silk rose .
"How could chocolate possibly be more delicious than it already is??
For now, chocolate is a bitter sweet…
284,000 children toil in abusive labor conditions in West Africa’s cocoa fields
Cocoa companies pay prices so low that many cocoa farmers cannot meet their families’ basic needs"
Boyfriend of woman stuck to toilet gets 6 months probation
I bet she was a lazy woman who did not want to leave the toilet.. A man whose girlfriend sat on a toilet so long that the seat stuck to her body has been sentenced to six months on probation.
Babcock’s extremely reclusive behaviour first made headlines in February 2008 when McFarren called the local sheriff in Ness County, Kansas explaining that Babcock, his live-in girlfriend, had not left their bathroom for two years.
When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.
When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.[/i]
That´s another argument for the A La Turka types of toilets!
When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.[/i]
That´s another argument for the A La Turka types of toilets!
If I need to sit that long on a toilet I rather have a Japanese one, like in the picture. There are even more luxury ones with drying facilities, music and several bidet functions.
When the police arrived at McFarren’s trailer, they found Babcock stuck to the lavatory. Medics discovered that the toilet seat had become affixed to sores on her body and later estimated she had been sat on the loo for at least four weeks.[/i]
That´s another argument for the A La Turka types of toilets!
If I need to sit that long on a toilet I rather have a Japanese one, like in the picture. There are even more luxury ones with drying facilities, music and several bidet functions.
Giant chunks break off Canadian ice shelf
Cracks had been earlier found on Ward Hunt; ´more could go´ this summer
Giant sheets of ice totaling almost eight square miles broke off an ice shelf in the Canadian Arctic last week and more could follow later this year, scientists said on Tuesday.
In a development consistent with climate change theories, the enormous icy plain broke free sometime last week and began slowly drifting into the Arctic Ocean. The piece had been a part of the shelf for 3,000 years.
Temperatures in large parts of the Arctic have risen far faster than the global average in recent decades.
The ice broke away from the shelf on Ward Hunt Island, a small island just off giant Ellesmere Island in one of the northernmost parts of Canada.
It was the largest fracture of its kind since the nearby Ayles Ice Shelf — which measured 25 square miles — broke away in 2005.
Scientists had earlier identified deep cracks in the Ward Hunt Ice Shelf, which measures around 155 square miles. The shelf is one of five along Ellesmere Island in the northern Arctic.
"Because the breakoff occurred between two large parallel cracks they´re thinking more could go this summer before the freeze sets in," said Trudy Wohlleben of the Canadian Ice Service. "More could be a piece as large as the Ayles Ice Shelf."
Ellesmere Island was once home to a single enormous ice shelf totaling around 3,500 square miles. All that is left of that shelf today are five much smaller shelves that together cover just under 400 square miles.
Melting ice shelves don´t raise sea levels because they are already in the water, but their demise can speed up retreating glaciers, which do raise sea levels.
Sea ice, glaciers also shrinking
"The breakoff is consistent with other changes we´ve seen in the area, such as the reduction in the amount of sea ice, the retreat of the glaciers and the breakup of other ice shelves," Wohlleben said.
The single hair that could FINALLY prove the Yeti really exists!!
The tests showed the thick, wiry hairs do not belong to any of the most common wild animals known to live in the area.
Instead, they bear a ´startling resemblance´ to some collected half a century ago by Everest conqueror Sir Edmund Hillary.
Researcher Ian Redmond said: ´The hairs are the most positive evidence yet that a yeti might possibly exist. It might be that the region this animal is inhabiting is remote enough for it to remain undiscovered so far. We are very excited.´
What a sudden interest in this hairy creature, thehandsom? Is that coincidence....?
well..
it says:
The hairs are complete with the cuticle, and between 3.3cm (1.3in) and 4.4cm (1.7in) long and thick and wiry and curved,´ And they fit the description of ermm.. (I am too shy to mention it)..
I have been in Pakistan years ago..and I was just thinking what if ermm.., you know, natural forces like wind makes the things travel around and they discoverd the hair in India..
I dunno..We have to wait and see the DNA analysis I guess..
Today in Amsterdam - still Gay Capital of Europe though Istanbul has the name wanting to beat the city - is the Canal Parade, a Gay festival like carnival on boats in the Amsterdam Canals. At the video you can see a little of it. BTW the headscarfed woman was not - as some might think - saying anything bad, just that she found some of the openly dancing gay men overreacting just like she finds the same from straight people acting the same.
Bad news is that at least 4 gay visitors were molested just before the parade started.
In Japan they celebrate this weekend the Kanamara Matsuri. This festival - called the festival of the iron phallus - is THE occassion to pray for more children and protection against STD´s. The festivities in Kawasaki are attented with many phallus symbols. Nowadays the festival is held to raise money for HIV investigation.
According to a legend a young girl was possessed by a demon who castrated two young men during their wedding night. A black smith made a phallus of iron to crush the demons teeth. That is where the honoring of the symbol originate from.
A video - with some quite revealing shots! - can be seen
here.
We are together, the story of the Agape Orphanage in South Africa. The highly aclaimed documentary was screened last night on UK TV Channel 4 and it was a very moving emotional story.
It followed, in particular, one you girl age 11 who was in the orphanage with her younger siblings. She had three older sibling who lived in the parental home. Both parent had died of AIDS and her older brother also died of AIDS whilst the documentary was being filmed. This was heatbreaking to watch, as he was carried down the hill on the back of his older sister, bringing him home from a short spell in hospital, as they could do no more for him. I guessed he would be about 20.
This incredibly moving film, showed the orphanage had burned down, and the children then had to live in the makeshift camp.
The aim of the film was for the children to come to England to sing in their choir, but this did not take place, instead they went to New York and sang with Alishia Keys and Paul Simon. They made a CD and made enough money to rebuild their orphanage.
The Triumph of the Anti-Bush
A crowd of 200,000 in Berlin and an enthusiastic welcome in Jerusalem and Paris: Barack Obama´s whirlwind tour of the Middle East and Europe has fascinated the crowds and impressed politicians. Will it be enough to overcome doubts about his foreign policy expertise?
On the one hand, there were the American media pros working for the US presidential candidate, constantly searching for the best shots to use back home. They left nothing to chance, right down to the tiniest carefully choreographed details. "Message control" was the buzzword as they implemented "the plan" -- Barack Obama for president. John, does camera three have the Brandenburg Gate with him in the foreground? Jack, how can we best get the crowd into the picture with him, should he wave to the left or to the right? Linda, why do so few people in the front rows have Obama balloons?
On the other hand, there was the man himself. From the very second he walked onto the stage with an athletic bounce in his step, waved, smiled, it was obvious here was a man who so obviously knows where he stands and is so confident in his message. This doesn´t look like just another political product that needs to be sold -- at most just someone who needs to be coached in the details. Here comes a natural talent with the charisma of John F. Kennedy, the kind of man who only comes along once in a generation. And when he stood up to speak, it immediately became clear why it may be one thing when wannabe crowd-pleasers like Hubertus Heil, secretary general of Germany´s center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD), shout "Yes, we can" -- but it is another story altogether when Obama does it himself.
He gave an almost poetic speech, a tour de force through global politics, but without many specifics, in which he invoked what has fallen by the wayside during the Bush years without even referring to George W.: the partnership with Europe, cooperation on climate protection, phasing out nuclear weapons. On the topic of Afghanistan, he called on the Germans to play a more active role. He didn´t utter a single negative word abroad about his own government, about the lies that were used to justify the Iraq war, about the ongoing revelations of torture by the CIA, or the fact that 74 percent of Americans feel that their country is on the wrong path. On this very special Thursday evening at Berlin´s Victory Column, a crowd of 200,000 was fascinated by Obama, cheering this man who presents himself as a citizen of the world, and who they hope will become the next US president.
This was all quite a remarkable contrast to the last visit by an important guest from the US. It was just under seven weeks ago that George W. Bush -- the man who is still US president for the time being -- was in Germany. A quiet "couples evening" took place at the idyllic Meseberg Palace, 70 kilometers (44 miles) from Berlin, as the Merkels dined with the Bushs, undisturbed by the public interest. And so it was that the commander-in-chief of the world´s greatest superpower received the worst possible kind of political affront: He failed to attract anyone´s attention -- not even his opponents seemed to care anymore. Not a single demonstration. The small group of farmers who gathered on a field near a neighboring village were only interested in getting better prices for dairy products.
Obama, 46, arranged a monster program of events and saw it through with iron discipline and a constant smile, although the jetlag, as he himself admitted, was so severe that he could "fall asleep on his feet." He knew that this whirlwind tour could be the key to his bid to become the next president of the US.
Playing the Statesman-in-Waiting
Up until last week, opponent John McCain was barely trailing him in the opinion polls -- by 2 to 4 percent, with over 10 percent undecided. In almost every political arena, from the economy to health insurance, the Democrat leads the Republican by a comfortable margin. McCain, 71, can only score more points with his foreign policy experience. When Americans are asked which of the presumptive candidates for the White House they would most trust as the commander-in-chief in a time of crisis -- who, for example, would be in a better position to protect them from terrorist attacks -- the Vietnam War veteran comes up with a clear advantage. This motivated Obama to take his election campaign to the world stage. Now that he had recognized his own Achilles´ heel, he planned to make it unassailable. And on Monday, it looked as if it had paid off -- at least temporarily. The first post-trip Gallup poll showed Obama nine points ahead of McCain after the Democratic candidate´s mini world tour.
Obama at the Western Wall in Jerusalem.
Already during the first half of his trip, as he toured the Middle East, Obama took a very skilled and disciplined approach. He didn´t lecture, he listened. And when he commented, he carefully chose each word and weighed each phrase. Obama is a man who occasionally allows a brilliant phrase to overshadow the message itself and -- no stranger to vanity -- sometimes allows himself to get carried away by the engaging power of language. But this gifted orator managed to hold back. He played the statesman-in-waiting, not the election campaigner. And we only occasionally caught a glimpse of how difficult this was for him.
For instance, during a press conference in the Jordanian capital Amman, with the Temple of Hercules in the background, he bit on his lip as reporters fired one provocative question after another. No, not Iraq, but Afghanistan is the most important front in the war on terror, he insisted, adding that the two to three US combat brigades required there could only come from Iraq. He pointed out that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supports his 16-month withdrawal plan from the country. The nuances of his ideas on Iraq are important to him. He wants to make distinctions as a counterpoint to Bush, who once famously said: "I don´t do nuance."
Above all during his trip to Israel and the Palestinian Territories -- the world region with the largest political minefields -- Obama did not, as some expected, come across as a messianic savior. Before the trip, American comedian Jon Stewart joked that the presumptive Democratic candidate would certainly visit Bethlehem because "he has to see his place of birth." But Obama avoided making any grand gestures and made absolutely no attempt at walking on water. Instead, he seemed intent on becoming the new master of the low-key approach.
During his 34-hour stay in Israel, Obama encountered a country that is once again struggling to find its bearings, a nation that is deeply divided and plagued by scandal. The attorney general is soon expected to charge former Israeli President Moshe Katsav on two counts of rape; Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is being investigated on corruption allegations and will likely have to leave office in September; Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon continue to threaten Israel with attacks.
There is only one issue that practically all Israelis can agree on: Iran, with its fanatical President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, must not be allowed to become a nuclear power. There is a slender majority that would still rather pursue tougher sanctions than air raids. But Israeli intelligence sources have been pushing for a military strike against Iran´s nuclear facilities -- the risky plan with unforeseeable consequences is gaining support among politicians. And as SPIEGEL learned in Jerusalem, Obama received a new and particularly alarming Mossad dossier on Iran from Olmert.
Israel is one of the few countries worldwide -- at least prior to the visit -- where a majority of the population would prefer to see McCain elected president. Experienced, graying old warhorses with military experience like Ariel Sharon enjoy more support there than young charismatic politicians. And American Jewish voters, whose support promises to be so crucial in swing states like Florida and Ohio on Nov. 4, are watching carefully. Ever since Obama said that he would seek unconditional talks with Iran, Jews in the US have been eyeing him with suspicion.
Not a Good Week for McCain
In the run-up to his visit to Israel, the Democratic candidate tried to compensate for his position on Iran -- and ended up making his worst foreign policy blunder: Speaking to the pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC in Washington in early June, he went so far as to assert that Jerusalem would "remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided." Not even the extremely pro-Israel Bush administration had gone that far. The Palestinians, who -- in agreement with the European Union and the United Nations -- claim East Jerusalem as the capital of their future state, were furious; the extremists in Hamas called Obama a "Zionist poodle."
Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is struggling to counter Obamania.
The senator from Illinois bowed and was deeply moved at the Holocaust memorial, he remained respectfully silent at the Wailing Wall, and shook his head in Sderot -- an Israeli border town that has been plagued by rocket attacks from the nearby Gaza Strip -- when he was handed the remains of a Katyusha rocket. It was little more than the standard political visit, but Obama has the rare ability to give everyone the impression that there is no one more important to him.
"This will be the next president of the United States," wrote the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, which until then had been critical of Obama. And their colleagues at Haaretz found that, compared to the Obama tour, the visit by British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who had an opportunity last week to speak before the Knesset, was as insignificant "as a warm-up act for the Beatles." A survey conducted by Israel Radio following the visit revealed that 4 percent more Israelis favor the Democratic senator over McCain.
Next Obama endeavored -- tightrope act number two -- to reduce the reservations that Palestinians have about him. He had already revised his statement about Jerusalem. In an interview on CNN he said: "Obviously, it´s going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations." He traveled to see the leaders of the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah. He promised moderate Palestinians that under his leadership the US would push the Israelis to stop building new settlements and actively pursue the peace process. He may have only spent just under two hours in the West Bank, but even Palestinian skeptics were highly appreciative of the visit. When McCain visited Israel four months ago, he saw no reason to visit Ramallah.
The more moderate, nonpartisan and presidential the Democratic senator acted on this trip, the more it underscored the grating tones of his opponent: "Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign," a visibly more nervous McCain commented. Even the weather seemed to turn against the Republican. He set out to prove his expertise on energy issues by flying out to an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico. But the modest photo op was spoiled by a hurricane.
No, it wasn´t a good week for the McCainiacs. The head strategists of the Republican election campaign were up in arms over the "Obama orgy" that they believe America´s media had orchestrated while other supporters -- depending on their disposition -- struggle with bouts of Obamanic depression. The leading networks CBS, NBC and ABC did indeed send their anchormen to the Middle East, and it took plenty of chutzpah to bill the election campaign trip as a simple congressional delegation with Chuck Hagel (Rep.) and Jack Reed (Dem.) tagging along as decoration.
However, when CNN decided out of a sense of fairness to give McCain exactly the same prime airtime last Wednesday, it turned out to be rather counterproductive for the Republican. He was seen standing on some hilltop in Maine, his hair disheveled by the wind, and out of the blue he said "I will get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice, I promise you."
With an expressionless look on his face, he examined heads of cabbage at a supermarket in Pennsylvania and told housewives how concerned he is about the high prices of food and gasoline. Afterwards, viewers were treated to McCain with George Bush Senior playing a round of golf. The two men looked like a couple of pensioners -- active, but not necessarily so dynamic that people would be inclined to entrust them with the most important office in the world: more like the generation 70 and over.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,druck-568551,00.html
In Japan they celebrate this weekend the Kanamara Matsuri. This festival - called the festival of the iron phallus - is THE occassion to pray for more children and protection against STD´s. The festivities in Kawasaki are attented with many phallus symbols. Nowadays the festival is held to raise money for HIV investigation.
According to a legend a young girl was possessed by a demon who castrated two young men during their wedding night. A black smith made a phallus of iron to crush the demons teeth. That is where the honoring of the symbol originate from.
A video - with some quite revealing shots! - can be seen
here.
(I hope it´s too revealing for TLC?)
I am sorry but this is quite lewd and raunchy.
Objectification of phallus!!
I think you should delete this post.
The Yazidi are adherents of the smallest of the three branches of Yazdânism, a Middle Eastern religion with ancient Indo-European roots. Yazidis are primarily Kurdish speaking, and most live in the Mosul region of northern Iraq. There are traditional communities in Transcaucasia, Turkey, and Syria, but these have declined since the 1990s, their members emigrating to Europe, especially to Germany.
The term Dasni or Dasny is misunderstood. A large Yezidi-clan/tribe is called Dasni. There are many Yazidis who belong to the tribe, and the two terms are sometimes seen as interchangeable. The Yazidis don´t use it for self-designation.
Yazidis make up an important Iraqi minority community. Estimates of the size of the Iraqi communities vary significantly, between 70,000 and 500,000. The Georgian community has declined significantly (decreasing from 30,000 during the 1990s to an estimated 14,000 in 2008), while communities in Armenia have been more stable (some 40,000 according to 2001 census). In Russia, the Yazidi population totals 31,273 (2002 census). In Syria, there are two main groupings, in the Jazira and the Kurd Daege, accounting for about 15,000 people. In Turkey, there are now just a very small remnant in some villages south-east of Diyarbakir, remnants of a community of some 80,000 in 1970 (declined to 23,000 in 1985 and to 377 people in 2007[citation needed]).
The Yazidi number around 200,000 to 300,000 individuals in total, but estimates vary on their population size, partially due to the Yazidi tradition of secrecy when asked about one´s religious beliefs. Lower estimates are around 100,000, and high estimates around 700,000. Expatriate Yazidi are concentrated in Germany, numbering between 20,000 and 40,000, mainly in Niedersachsen and Nordrhein-Westfalen, most of them from Turkey. A much smaller diaspora community is found in the Netherlands. Very small groups are also found in Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, France, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, the US, Canada and Australia, probably totalling to below 5,000 people.
Yazidi men in Mardin, late 19th century
The origins of Yazidism are ultimately shrouded in Middle Eastern prehistory. Although the Yazidis speak Kurdish, their religion shows strong influence from archaic Levantine religion, Islam and Christianity. Their principal holy site is in Lalish, northeast of Mosul. The Yazidis´ own name for themselves is Êzidî or Êzîdî or, in some areas, Dasinî (the latter, strictly speaking, is a tribal name). Some scholars have derived the name Yazidi from Old Iranic yazata (divine being), while others say it is a derivation from Umayyad Caliph Yazid I (Yazid bin Muawiyah), revered by the Yazidis as an incarnation of the divine figure Sultan Ezi (this is no longer widely accepted). Yazidis, themselves, believe that their name is derived from the word Yezdan or Êzid meaning God; however in ancient vernaculars of Kurdistan such as Urartian the term izid-u means "command" or "admonish". The Yazidis´ cultural practices are observably Kurdish, and almost all speak Kurmanjî (Northern Kurdish), with the exception of the villages of Bashiqa and Bahazane in Northern Iraq, where Arabic is spoken. Kurmanjî is the language of almost all the orally transmitted religious traditions of the Yazidis. Thus, religious origins are somewhat complex.
The religion of the Yazidis is a highly syncretistic one: Sufi influence and imagery can be seen in their religious vocabulary, especially in the terminology of their esoteric literature, but much of the mythology is non-Islamic. Their cosmogonies apparently have many points in common with those of ancient Persian religions. Early writers attempted to describe Yazidi origins, broadly speaking, in terms of Islam, or Persian, or sometimes even pagan religions; however, publications since the 1990s have shown such an approach to be overly simplistic.
The origin of the Yazidi religion is now usually seen by scholars as a complex process of syncretism, whereby the belief system and practices of a local faith had a profound influence on the religiosity of adherents of the Adawiyya Sufi order living in the Kurdish mountains, and caused it to deviate from Islamic norms relatively soon after the death of its founder, Sheikh Adî ibn Mustafa who is said to be of Umayyad descent. He settled in the valley of Laliş (some thirty-six miles north-east of Mosul) in the early 12th century CE. Sheikh Adî himself, a figure of undoubted orthodoxy, enjoyed widespread influence. He died in 1162, and his tomb at Lalish is a focal point of Yazidi pilgrimage. During the fourteenth century, important Kurdish tribes whose sphere of influence stretched well into what is now Turkey (including, for a period, the rulers of the principality of Jazira) are cited in historical sources as Yazidi.
The word Taus (in Melek Taus) is derived from the Indo-European root Diyus and is a cognate of Indian Diyuvuh and Greek Zeus. Ancient Indo-Iranians used to worship the souls of their fathers and grandfathers and glorified the souls of their dead. They also believed in a supreme God Diyvuh Pitar (The Father God) and several Devas who represented natural powers. After the arrival of Zoroaster, he kept Ahoramazda (Supreme God) and abolished the other gods such as Devas. Over time, Zoroastrians began to associate Devas with Satan and prohibited painting, statues, sacrifice of animals, alcohol and fasting. Zoroaster called those who did not follow his teachings demon worshipers. Despite the Zoroastrians´ efforts, large parts of the population kept their old beliefs in worshiping natural phenomena. According to scholar Taufiq Wahby and others, the word Dasni or Dasny, the ethnic self-designation of Yazidis, is a form of the old word Deva Ysne used by Zoroaster to identify those who did not follow his religion.
Melek Taus, the peacock angel
In the Yazidi belief system, the world was created by a god, and the world is now in the care of a Heptad of seven Holy Beings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries). Preeminent among these is Melek Taus (Tawûsê Melek in Kurdish), the Peacock Angel. According to the Encyclopedia of the Orient, "The reason for the Yazidis reputation of being devil worshipers, is connected to the other name of Melek Taus, Shaytan, the same name the Koran has for Satan". Furthermore, the Yazidi story regarding Malek Taus´ rise to favor with God is almost identical to the story of the Islamic angel Iblis, except that Yazidis revere Malek Taus for refusing to submit to Adam, while Muslims believe that Iblis´ refusal to submit caused him to fall out of Grace with God, and to later become Satan himself.[9] However, according to the Kurdish linguist Jamal Nebez, the word Taus is most probably derived from the Greek and is related to the words Zeus and Theos, alluding to the meaning of God. Accordingly, Malek Taus is God´s Angel, and this is how Yazidis themselves see Melek Taus or Taus-e-Malak.
Yazidis believe that Melek Taus is not a source of evil or wickedness. They consider him to be the leader of the archangels, not a fallen angel, and therefore comparable to the Christians´ Lucifer, who is likewise considered the leader of the "seven who stand before the Lord" and of all other good angels. Also, they hold that the source of evil is in the heart and spirit of humans themselves, not in Melek Taus. The active forces in their religion are Melek Taus and Sheik Adî. The Kitêba Cilwe (Book of Illumination) which claims to be the words of Melek Taus, and which presumably represents Yazidi belief, states that he allocates responsibilities, blessings and misfortunes as he sees fit and that it is not for the race of Adam to question him. Sheikh Adî believed that the spirit of Melek Taus is the same as his own, perhaps as a reincarnation. He is believed to have said: "I was present when Adam was living in Paradise, and also when Nemrud threw Abraham in fire. I was present when God said to me: ´You are the ruler and Lord on the Earth´. God, the compassionate, gave me seven earths and throne of the heaven."
Yazidi accounts of creation differ from that of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. They believe that God first created Melek Taus from his own illumination (Ronahî in Kurdish) and the other six archangels were created later. God ordered Melek Taus not to bow to other beings. Then God created the other archangels and ordered them to bring him dust (Ax) from the Earth (Erd) and build the body of Adam. Then God gave life to Adam from his own breath and instructed all archangels to bow to Adam. The archangels obeyed except for Melek Taus. In answer to God, Malek Taus replied, "How can I submit to another being! I am from your illumination while Adam is made of dust." Then God praised him and made him the leader of all angels and his deputy on the Earth. (This likely furthers what some see as a connection to the Islamic Shaytan, as according to legend he too refused to bow to Adam at God´s command, though in this case it is seen as being a sign of Shaytan´s sinful pride.) Hence the Yazidis believe that Melek Taus is the representative of God on the face of the Earth, and comes down to the Earth on the first Wednesday of Nisan (March/April). Yazidis hold that God created Malek Taus on this day, and celebrate it as New Year´s day. Yazidis argue that the order to bow to Adam was only a test for Melek Taus, since if God commands anything then it must happen. (Bibe, dibe). In other words, God could have made him submit to Adam, but gave Taus the choice as a test. They believe that their respect and praise for Melek Taus is a way to acknowledge his majestic and sublime nature. This idea is called "Knowledge of the Sublime" (Zanista Ciwaniyê). Sheikh Adî has observed the story of Melek Taus and believed in him.
One of the key creation beliefs of Yazidism is that all Yazidis are descendants of Adam rather than Eve. Yazidis believe that good and evil both exist in the mind and spirit of human beings. It depends on the humans, themselves, as to which they choose. In this process, their devotion to Melek Taus is essential, since it was he who was given the same choice between good and evil by God, and chose the good.
Yazidis, who have much in common with the followers of Ahl-e Haqq (in western Iran), state that the world created by God was at first a pearl. It remained in this very small and enclosed state for some time (often a magic number such as forty or forty thousand years) before being remade in its current state. During this period the Heptad were called into existence, God made a covenant with them and entrusted the world to them. Besides Melek Taus, members of the Heptad (the Seven), who were called into existence by God at the beginning of all things, include Sheikh Adî, his companion Shaikh Hasan, and a group known as the four Mysteries, Shamsadin, Fakhradin, Sajadin and Naserdin. The Yazidi holy books are the Kitêba Cilwe (Book of Revelation) and the Mishefa Reş (Black Book).
Two key and interrelated features of Yazidism are: a) a preoccupation with religious purity and b) a belief in metempsychosis. The first of these is expressed in the system of caste, the food laws, the traditional preferences for living in Yazidi communities, and the variety of taboos governing many aspects of life. The second is crucial; Yazidis traditionally believe that the Seven Holy Beings are periodically reincarnated in human form, called a koasasa.
A belief in the reincarnation of lesser Yazidi souls also exists. Like the Ahl-e Haqq, the Yazidis use the metaphor of a change of garment to describe the process, which they call kiras guhorîn in Kurdish (changing the garment). Alongside this, Yazidi mythology also includes descriptions of heaven and hell, with hell extinguished, and other traditions incorporating these ideas into a belief system that includes reincarnation.
THE GUINEA PIG GAMES 2009
...a new calendar maintain that some animals are also getting in on the action . In what will rival the main event in Beijing the Guinea Pig Games have been captured on film and reveal the furry rodents bid for medal glory . The two sporty little individuals called Bandit and Ginger...
www.calendarclub.co.uk
THE GUINEA PIG GAMES 2009
...a new calendar maintain that some animals are also getting in on the action . In what will rival the main event in Beijing the Guinea Pig Games have been captured on film and reveal the furry rodents bid for medal glory . The two sporty little individuals called Bandit and Ginger...
www.calendarclub.co.uk
Fantastic trick photography - nearly as good as my bee on a thistle!
Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................
Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................
haha
But look at the comments from the wives..
They seem jolly and happy "When you marry a man with 86 wives you know he knows how to look after them"
Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................
I don´t know if anyone saw the UK TV programme called Tribal Wives recently? It was VERY interesting to learn how this system works - and in a way it makes a little more sense when you live in a tribe where the women are expected to do so much!.
Women with the same husband live in a kind of commune and hope their husbands will have plenty of wives to help with all the work. They shared childcare and all the chores (of course they did absolutely everything, while the men sat around looking at the goats all day!).
What I really loved was the fact that they all had young boyfriends! In fact, if a wife didn´t have have boyfriends and admirers, the husband was disappointed because it meant she was not such a "catch". Some of them never had sex with their husband - it was more like joining a safe (and rich) community than marriage....
A 70-year old giant turtle living on the Galapagos Islands might become father again. He is the oldest and only male of his sort and after 36 years of non-reproductive activities he and two female turtles produced eleven eggs.
This video which is partly in English and partly in Dutch, shows more. (Sorry for the commercial in the beginning.)
You know how this came about? Ther person who they are really after is the spitting image of Robbie Coltraine and because of some ridiculous privacy law, they cannot post the actual photo of the criminal in question. So good ol´ Robbie gets a bit of pulicity!
Man with 86 wifesis advising other men not to take his lead! I am not suprised! How can any country in the 21st century condone such behaviour. Words escape me...................
haha
But look at the comments from the wives..
They seem jolly and happy "When you marry a man with 86 wives you know he knows how to look after them"
If they are all capable, he would have sex with each one of them 4.2 times a year, as long as he could manage it!
WASHINGTON - Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday admitted to an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer. He denied fathering the woman´s daughter. Edwards told ABC News that he lied repeatedly about the affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter but said that he didn´t love her.
The National Enquirer first reported on the affair in October 2007, and Edwards denied it.
"The story is false," he told reporters. "It´s completely untrue, ridiculous." He professed his love for his wife, Elizabeth, who had an incurable form of cancer, saying, "I´ve been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years and as anybody who´s been around us knows, she´s an extraordinary human being, warm, loving, beautiful, sexy and as good a person as I have ever known. So the story´s just false."
Last month, the Enquirer carried another story stating that its reporters had accosted Edwards in a Los Angeles hotel where he had met with Hunter after her child´s birth. Edwards called it "tabloid trash," but he generally avoided reporters´ inquiries, as did his former top aides.
In the interview, scheduled to air on ABC News´ "Nightline," Edwards said the tabloid was correct when it reported on his meeting with Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.
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... and I thought he was a decent candidate...
WASHINGTON - Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday admitted to an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer. He denied fathering the woman´s daughter. Edwards told ABC News that he lied repeatedly about the affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter but said that he didn´t love her.
The National Enquirer first reported on the affair in October 2007, and Edwards denied it.
"The story is false," he told reporters. "It´s completely untrue, ridiculous." He professed his love for his wife, Elizabeth, who had an incurable form of cancer, saying, "I´ve been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years and as anybody who´s been around us knows, she´s an extraordinary human being, warm, loving, beautiful, sexy and as good a person as I have ever known. So the story´s just false."
Last month, the Enquirer carried another story stating that its reporters had accosted Edwards in a Los Angeles hotel where he had met with Hunter after her child´s birth. Edwards called it "tabloid trash," but he generally avoided reporters´ inquiries, as did his former top aides.
In the interview, scheduled to air on ABC News´ "Nightline," Edwards said the tabloid was correct when it reported on his meeting with Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.
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... and I thought he was a decent candidate...
I think the using the word decent when referring to a politician is probably not advisable...
I just can´t imagine how his wife is dealing with this. I am sure next week he will have to admit the baby is his.
Maybe it is! Just like it was for him to cheat on his wife as she was diagnosed with an incurable cancer. If he plays with low blows and no rules apply then he deserves the same.
(of course we don´t know what kind of marriage they had, maybe the wife was happy to have him off her back. I am assuming that this was a betrayal)
Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.
Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.
There are some questions that should not be asked. Peeking in peoples keyholes is a despicable thing.
Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.
Does ıt count ıf they are good and consıstent lıars?
Just as with former President Clinton, I really could care less what a President or candidate does in his or her bedroom.
We all know that politicians are liars but as long as they have a good and consistant record...that´s what I care about.
I do care about the ethical standards of my president. This is not a regular job based on his CV. He (sadly, it has never been a "she" in this country with presumed equality ) is elected based on his character and trust that people have that he will do what is best for the country and for people. He will have a lot of power that people trust he will use well.
If it was my boss at work, I wouldn´t care, I can always quit and go somewhere else and he won´t make laws that will affect my life. But if it´s a president, I do care what his standards are.
Of course, one incident does not determine what kind of person he is. But if you have such a powerful position, you have to deserve it by being very special.
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GRUESOME details emerged yesterday of Monday´s terrorist attack in western China as Beijing vowed to run a safe Olympic Games.
Witnesses said attackers in the Muslim northwestern city of Kashgar ran down police officers with a truck, set off explosives and hacked the injured with machetes.
Sixteen officers were killed in the attack, with state media blaming separatists from the Uighur ethnic group - a Turkic-speaking people who have long rebelled under Chinese rule.
"It was quite sickening to watch - my wife almost threw up and had to lie down afterwards," said Wlodzislaw Duch, a Polish tourist who watched the gruesome scene unfold across the street from his hotel room.
Mr Duch said two men who appeared to be dressed in police uniforms ploughed a truck through the group of officers.
They then tossed small explosives at the stunned police, who numbered "at least a couple of dozen".
He said the attackers leapt out of the truck and hacked at the officers on the ground with short swords resembling machetes.
Muslim men who carried out the attack were carrying documents calling for a "holy war", police said yesterday.
"On the scene, police also found two knives used in the attack and some propaganda material advocating a ´holy war´," a public security ministry statement said.
The statement said the men used explosives similar to those found in a raid on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a UN-listed terrorist organisation.
The Beijing Olympic organising committee yesterday moved to quell security fears and said authorities were confident they could deal with any kind of threat to the Games opening on Friday.
"We can guarantee a safe and peaceful Olympic Games," spokesman Sun Weide said.
He said there was still no information directly linking the attack in the Xinjiang region with the Olympics.
The massacre has also sparked a row between Japan and China.
A Japanese Nippon Television Network reporter and a Chunichi Shimbun newspaper photographer suffered minor injuries when they were detained and beaten by paramilitary police as they covered the attack in Kashgar.
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Beijing, 8 August (AKI) - Nine people were reported to have been killed on Friday in an explosion in the northwest Chinese city of Ili, in the country´s predominantly Muslim province of Xinjang.
Local sources told a correspondent from the Arab television network, al-Jazeera, that a big explosion occurred hours before the Olympic Games were due to begin in Beijing on Friday (Photo).
It was not immediately clear whether the explosion was caused by a deliberate attack or an accident.
A Jihadist group, Ansar al-Jihad, said on Thursday it planned to post a video related to attacks which killed 16 policemen in the restive northwestern Muslim region of Xinjiang on Monday.
Last month a group calling itself the Turkestan Islamic Party claimed responsibility for several bus bombings in Shanghai and Kunming, capital of the southwestern province of Yunnan.
Turkestan is another name for Xinjiang. The province is home to several ethnic groups but is mainly made up of Muslim Uighurs, who have a Turkic language and culture.
Uighur separatists have for decades waged a campaign against Chinese rule.
GRUESOME details emerged yesterday of Monday´s terrorist attack in western China as Beijing vowed to run a safe Olympic Games.
Witnesses said attackers in the Muslim northwestern city of Kashgar ran down police officers with a truck, set off explosives and hacked the injured with machetes.
Sixteen officers were killed in the attack, with state media blaming separatists from the Uighur ethnic group - a Turkic-speaking people who have long rebelled under Chinese rule.
GRUESOME details emerged yesterday of Monday´s terrorist attack in western China as Beijing vowed to run a safe Olympic Games.
Witnesses said attackers in the Muslim northwestern city of Kashgar ran down police officers with a truck, set off explosives and hacked the injured with machetes.
Sixteen officers were killed in the attack, with state media blaming separatists from the Uighur ethnic group - a Turkic-speaking people who have long rebelled under Chinese rule.
"It was quite sickening to watch - my wife almost threw up and had to lie down afterwards," said Wlodzislaw Duch, a Polish tourist who watched the gruesome scene unfold across the street from his hotel room.
Mr Duch said two men who appeared to be dressed in police uniforms ploughed a truck through the group of officers.
They then tossed small explosives at the stunned police, who numbered "at least a couple of dozen".
He said the attackers leapt out of the truck and hacked at the officers on the ground with short swords resembling machetes.
Muslim men who carried out the attack were carrying documents calling for a "holy war", police said yesterday.
"On the scene, police also found two knives used in the attack and some propaganda material advocating a ´holy war´," a public security ministry statement said.
The statement said the men used explosives similar to those found in a raid on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a UN-listed terrorist organisation.
The Beijing Olympic organising committee yesterday moved to quell security fears and said authorities were confident they could deal with any kind of threat to the Games opening on Friday.
"We can guarantee a safe and peaceful Olympic Games," spokesman Sun Weide said.
He said there was still no information directly linking the attack in the Xinjiang region with the Olympics.
The massacre has also sparked a row between Japan and China.
A Japanese Nippon Television Network reporter and a Chunichi Shimbun newspaper photographer suffered minor injuries when they were detained and beaten by paramilitary police as they covered the attack in Kashgar.
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Beijing, 8 August (AKI) - Nine people were reported to have been killed on Friday in an explosion in the northwest Chinese city of Ili, in the country´s predominantly Muslim province of Xinjang.
Local sources told a correspondent from the Arab television network, al-Jazeera, that a big explosion occurred hours before the Olympic Games were due to begin in Beijing on Friday (Photo).
It was not immediately clear whether the explosion was caused by a deliberate attack or an accident.
A Jihadist group, Ansar al-Jihad, said on Thursday it planned to post a video related to attacks which killed 16 policemen in the restive northwestern Muslim region of Xinjiang on Monday.
Last month a group calling itself the Turkestan Islamic Party claimed responsibility for several bus bombings in Shanghai and Kunming, capital of the southwestern province of Yunnan.
Turkestan is another name for Xinjiang. The province is home to several ethnic groups but is mainly made up of Muslim Uighurs, who have a Turkic language and culture.
Uighur separatists have for decades waged a campaign against Chinese rule.
crappy Chinese propaganda.
here is your chance to learn more about the real terrorism by the Chinese in Beijing
A Chinese attacker stabbed to death the father-in-law of a U.S. Olympic coach and seriously wounded the American´s wife and a Chinese tour guide before killing himself, the International Olympic Committee said Saturday.
Todd and Barbara Bachman of Lakeville, Minnesota, were attacked at the Drum Tower, an ancient monument in downtown Beijing, the IOC and Chinese authorities said.
Barbara Bachman´s injuries are "serious and life-threatening," an IOC statement said. The tour guide´s condition was not immediately clear.
Todd Bachman was the father-in-law of U.S. Olympic men´s indoor volleyball head coach Hugh McCutcheon. McCutcheon´s wife, 2004 U.S. Olympic women´s indoor volleyball player Elisabeth Bachman McCutcheon, was with her parents when they were attacked, but she was not hurt, the IOC said.
Olympics: Controversy in Iran over female flag carrier
Tehran, 8 August (AKI) - Iranian religious figures have criticised that Olympic female rower Homa Hosseini was chosen as the flagbearer of Iran, calling the move a ´heresy´.
"To make a woman march with the flag of the Islamic Republic in Beijing, is pure heresy and shows total disobedience of the laws mandated by our spiritual guides," said Seyye Ahmad Elmalhoda, leader of Friday prayers in Iran´s holy city of Mashad.
Hosseini, 19, grew up in Iran´s Kermanshah province in western Iran, she is one of three Iranian female competitors at the Olympic Games and Iran´s first ever female rower. The other two female competitors are Najmeh Abtin (archery) and Sara Khosjamal (Tae Kwon Do).
"To make this woman march means to openly declare war to our religious values. Whoever is responsible for this unforgivable act, he should know that this gesture constitutes an obstacle for the ´appearance´ of Mahdi," said Elmalhoda.
He was referring to the mainly Shia Islam belief that imam Mohammed al-Mahdi will appear to fight a final apocalyptic battle over the forces of evil.
Followers believe he was born in the year 868 and has been in hiding ever since awaiting a decision from god to reappear.
Body language: Also Turkish body language is different from British and it can often say more than a thousand words. Inclining head backwards raising eyebrows: means “no” Inclining head forwards: means “yes” Shaking your head from side to side: You do not understand what is being said One hand placed on the heart: You are very excited Bending hand downwards at wrist and waving: means ”come closer” or can be a means for stopping buses or taxis. To ”thumb it” is not known in Turkey. Rubbing your palms against each other:means ”done” or to finish something Turned-up palm and fingers held together forming a small ”bowl” : means “good”, and is used for example when commenting on food
Body language: Also Turkish body language is different from British and it can often say more than a thousand words. Inclining head backwards raising eyebrows: means “no” Inclining head forwards: means “yes” Shaking your head from side to side: You do not understand what is being said One hand placed on the heart: You are very excited Bending hand downwards at wrist and waving: means ”come closer” or can be a means for stopping buses or taxis. To ”thumb it” is not known in Turkey. Rubbing your palms against each other:means ”done” or to finish something Turned-up palm and fingers held together forming a small ”bowl” : means “good”, and is used for example when commenting on food
Apart from the first and the last not much different to British really
Christians have always portrayed non-Christian civilizations as backwards, underdeveloped, superstitious, and barbaric. What really underlies all of their criticism is that these cultures do not accept Jesus, the Bible ....shows that they are really the ones who are showing the qualities of barbarians.
Christians have always portrayed non-Christian civilizations as backwards, underdeveloped, superstitious, and barbaric. What really underlies all of their criticism is that these cultures do not accept Jesus, the Bible ....shows that they are really the ones who are showing the qualities of barbarians.
Guinness world record card stacker Bryan Berg completes a model of the Beijing Athlete Village out of playing cards in Hong Kong on July 24, 2008. Berg took 160 hours to construct the entire piece, which includes famous Beijing landmarks such as the National Stadium, also known as the "Bird´s Nest, the National Aquatics Center and the Beijing CCTV Tower. Berg commented saying that the biggest challenge was the Bird´s Nest because of its many curves and cantilevers.
Chinese cheered by solar eclipse a week before Olympics, after months of natural disasters.
Following the northern route of the ancient Silk Road, it passed over the western desert county of Yiwu, where about 10,000 tourists gathered to watch after astronomers said it would have the best view; over Dunhuang, where the oldest known map of the stars was found in a desert cave a century ago; and over Jiuquan, where China launched its first manned spaceflight.
JIAYUGUAN, China - Darkness fell over the last outpost of the Great Wall of China on Friday, where a rare total solar eclipse ended its journey across the earth, delighting skywatchers one week before the Olympics open in Beijing.
The stellar spectacle - when the moon passes between the sun and the Earth - began in Canada, tracked across Greenland and crept into Siberia, before ringing in the momentous month of August in China, when it will host the Games.
In northwest China, cheers went up from the Jiayuguan Fort as hordes of tourists welcomed the eclipse.
An airplane flies past during a partial solar eclipse in Almaty August 1, 2008. REUTERS/Zturgan Aldauyev
"It´s really doubly special, because I´m standing here on the Great Wall and watching it," said Feng Lei, a backpacker from the China´s southwestern province of Sichuan, who was making his way to Beijing for the Olympics.
Eclipses were considered dark omens by ancient Chinese astronomers but many Chinese view this one as particularly fortunate as it comes exactly a week before the torch is lit in Beijing for the opening ceremony of Games designed to restore China´s pride and showcase its achievements.
"I have a really deep feeling, especially because it´s exactly eight days before the Olympics," said Chuai Rui, college student from Xi´an. Chinese consider eight a lucky number.
In Russia, thousands had flocked from around the world to Novosibirsk, mixing awe with excitement as day turned into night.
All gazed in wonder as an eerie silence descended on the Siberian city and gusts of unusually strong wind tore through the crowd of skywatchers. Birds stopped chirping and the temperature suddenly dropped, a Reuters TV reporter there said.
In Russia´s second city of Petersburg, people shouted "Look! Look!" and pointed as the sun´s outer corona appeared in the sky.
"You just feel part of nature. ... This is so rare," said Lev, a software specialist in St Petersburg.
Several thousand people turned out at a park in Norway´s capital, Oslo, where the eclipse was near 50 percent, to peer up at the sun through dark glasses in cardboard frames and see pictures of the total eclipse beamed onto a large screen from an plane tracking the phenomenon in the Arctic.
Many in the Oslo crowd, which included many families with small children, tried photographing the eclipse, some with their mobile phones pressed against their eclipse sunglasses.
"There´s a strange light now," said Norwegian astronomer and popular author Knut Jorgen Roed Odegaard as the eclipse progressed and the midday light in Oslo grew slightly dimmer with a silvery sharpness.
"These are historical pictures," he said as real-time photos from a Norwegian air force plane appeared on the big outdoor screen to show the total eclipse from the Arctic.
Actually Turkish body language isn´t hard to understand - the only weird/different thing is that clicking sound done with tongue to say "no." Body language is way more fun in Bulgaria - they nod their head for "no" and shake it from side to side to say "yes"
Actually Turkish body language isn´t hard to understand - the only weird/different thing is that clicking sound done with tongue to say "no." Body language is way more fun in Bulgaria - they nod their head for "no" and shake it from side to side to say "yes"
OMG, then I probably made many mistakes when I was 15 years ago in Bulgaria....
... I think I should clarify (under my new rules) that this is not a judgement of the situation. As I am not aware of all the facts, I have no comment on the fact that China has jailed journalists, lawyers to abused women and civil rights activists.
... I think I should clarify (under my new rules) that this is not a judgement of the situation. As I am not aware of all the facts, I have no comment on the fact that China has jailed journalists, lawyers to abused women and civil rights activists.
Sorry if I disappoint you, but I don´t think that Admin will spend much of his time to create special rules for one member.
Thank you so much for your help dear. I shall ignore the complaint I got from the mods then and live a happy life knowing that Admin has not been bothered
Darwish, poet of the Palestinian cause, dies after surgery
"He translated the pain of the Palestinians in a magical way," said Egypt´s vernacular poet Ahmed Fouad Negm. "He made us cry and made us happy and shook our emotions. Apart from being the poet of the Palestinian wound, which is hurting all Arabs and all honest people in the world, he is a master poet."
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From "A State of Siege"
The soldiers measure the space between being and nothingness with field-glasses behind a tank´s armoury
We measure the space between our bodies and the coming rockets with our sixth sense alone
A teacher in Bangladesh has been fired for cutting off the hair of his students as punishment. According to the principal the teacher was not able to handle the behaviour of his 14 and 15 year old students. The teacher grabbed scissors and cutted the hair one after another. The students were shocked and speechlees, the principal of the school in the southwest part of the country said. In total there are 14 students cropped.
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Hmmm, what do teachers on TLC to when they can´t handle their students?
we were trained as children, to be a follower or a leader. Many of us were trained to surrender our power early in life. In usually subtle ways we were taught to live by the rules imposed on us by parents, society, religious leadership and educational training, and taught to be followers- not leaders. Do you recognize a few of these rules?
Be nice. Be quiet. Don’t get too excited. Don’t get too big for your britches. Be seen and not heard. Put the needs of others before your own. Keep your expectations low. Be modest. Keep the peace at any cost. Don’t threaten others by being too bright. Don’t toot your own horn. Do what I tell you to do. Don’t be too proud of yourself. Be happy with what you have. Don’t be a know-it-all. Don’t be so full of yourself.
Be courageous. Think big. Stop apologizing when you’ve done nothing wrong.
A study finds countries like the US and Japan reward nations that support them at the UN with generous ´aid´
By David R. Francis| Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
Foreign aid often is likened to charity. A rich nation gives money to poor countries with the goal of meeting humanitarian needs and speeding economic development - at least in theory.
In reality, when the United States, Japan, or European nations give aid, they generally have important political and security motivations.
"The direction of foreign aid is dictated as much by political and strategic considerations as by the economic needs and policy performance of the recipients," notes a study by economists Alberto Alesina of Harvard University and David Dollar of the World Bank.
A major example is foreign aid to Israel and Egypt, the latter as reward for reaching a peace deal with Israel in 1979. Aid to the two nations has for many years amounted to about one-third of America´s total foreign aid. "Israel shouldn´t need aid," says foreign-aid expert John Sewell. "It´s a rich country."
But for domestic political reasons, plus the fact that Israel stands out as the only US-friendly democracy in the region, the US helps Israel out financially in its violent and costly struggle with the Palestinians. This spring, in the supplemental bill covering the cost of war with Iraq, Congress voted to give Israel an extra $1 billion in military assistance and $9 billion in new loan guarantees. That´s on top of the annual $2.7 billion already granted Israel.
In the 1980s, during the cold war, the four top recipients of American foreign aid in Africa were Somalia, Sudan, Zaire (now Congo), and Liberia. To a large degree the money was meant to bolster noncommunist regimes - no matter how awful - in the competition with the Soviet Union for world influence.
Under the late President Mobutu Sese Seko, Zaire got nine loans from the World Bank - with US approval - despite an abysmal economic record. "All of that money was wasted in a development sense," says Mr. Sewell, of the Smithsonian Institution. Some of it fattened the pocketbooks of grim tyrants.
With the end of the cold war a decade ago, idealists hoped that bilateral aid would be directed more for genuine development and humanitarian purposes.
The Bush administration´s plan to spend $15 billion over five years in the fight against AIDS overseas may reflect "a greater willingness to devote American assistance dollars to matters of economic development," suggests Tamara Wittes, an analyst at the US Institute for Peace in Washington, D.C . "It may produce positive political benefits down the road in Africa. But it is really a humanitarian gesture."
"I hope the world has changed," says Mr. Dollar, whose study covered 25 years of aid ending in 1995. "But politics is still going to be in play."
That was shown this winter as the US and Britain scrambled unsuccessfully to find enough supporters in the United Nations Security Council to pass a second resolution backing an invasion of Iraq. The US offered Turkey as much as $6 billion in foreign aid if it allowed allied troops to move into Iraq through its territory. Turkey may still get some aid for not moving its troops into the Kirkuk oil field.
US aid to Pakistan, cut off in 1998 when Pakistan exploded an atomic bomb, was renewed when the country became a US ally in the fight against terrorism and Al Qaeda. In the case of North Korea, the US and South Korea are struggling with a predicament: Should they provide food aid to help ward off hunger in the North on a humanitarian basis or hold up help to engage or punish Pyongyang for its pursuit of nuclear weapons?
Other political factors affect aid levels. The Alesina-Dollar paper finds that "friends" of the US or Japan that vote "correctly" at the UN have been rewarded substantially with extra foreign aid. An alternative but less favored explanation is that donors simply "buy" political support in the UN from developing countries, the authors note.
Another factor influencing aid is colonial status. A nondemocratic former colony gets about twice as much aid from its former colonizer as a democratic noncolony nation; former colonies closed to trade get more than open noncolonies. This is especially true of French aid.
The report found that Nordic countries do better in responding to the "correct" incentives for aid, namely low income levels, good governmental institutions, and openness to trade and foreign investment.
In general, though, the pattern of giving foreign aid across developing nations "provides evidence as to why [aid] is not more effective at promoting growth and poverty reduction," it says.
In the case of Israel, a key question today is whether President Bush will use foreign aid as leverage in seeking peace in the Middle East. "To what extent will the administration try to tie it to implementation of the road map?" asks Scott Lasensky, an analyst at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. "He will have an opportunity to do so."
Israel may be specially vulnerable to economic pressure today. The costs of the intifada and suicide bombers - hitting tourism, shrinking the supply of relatively cheap Palestinian labor, keeping military reservists from their civilian jobs - have pushed Israel´s economy into recession. Unemployment exceeds 10 percent.
The new $1 billion in military assistance became Israel´s 30 days after Mr. Bush signed the supplemental bill. Because Israel can spend $263 million of that sum on purchases from its own defense firms, the aid amounts to support of Israel´s defense industry.
But the $9 billion in loan guarantees - spread over three years - has conditions attached. These, in theory, could be used to pressure Israel to make concessions. One condition allows Bush to reduce the size of the loan guarantee by the amount Israel´s government spends expanding settlements in the West Bank or Gaza.
"The president has an authority to stop the loan guarantee if we do not comply," notes Boaz Raday, economic minister of the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
If Bush uses the road map and economic leverage to win a settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he will go down in history as a peacemaker. But with reelection looming, one source says he does not expect Bush to stick to a tough stand for long.
On September 8, 1900, the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history occured here on Galveston Island. A hurricane slammed ashore, and caused a storm surge that put the entire island underneath the waters of the Gulf of Mexico. Along with the incredible devistation and destruction caused by the ferocious wind, rain, and flooding, over 8,000 people lost their lives. Over 90 of them were children and sisters at St. Mary´s orphanage, which was completely leveled as a result of the storm. The hurricane changed the city forever, which had been the largest city in Texas. In the years to come, a seawall was built to protect the city, and the entire city itself was raised over 6 feet with sand being pumped in under all buildings and residences. 100 years later, in the year 2000, a memorial was dedicated on the seawall in rememberance to what had occured here a century ago, and the thousands of lives that were lost. After hearing the story of the dramatic events that went on here, seeing the memorial can be a sobering moment to say the least.
Giant pandas "Le Le" (L) and "Ying Ying" enjoy ice birthday cake at the Ocean Park in Hong Kong, south China, Aug. 12, 2008. Hong Kong´s Ocean Park held a party for the giant pandas´ third birthday on Aug. 12.
Thehandsom(thehairy) - I found the perfect sport for you - you have to be prepared to make a couple of lifestyle changes but I am sure it will be worth it!
A brief history and explanation of Greco-Roman wrestling.
Greco-Roman wrestling is the world´s oldest-known sport.I popped in to see a couple of bouts and found this leaflet invaluable. I attach it below to give you the same kind of insight that we top sports journalists get... it´s only fair.
Eligibility
1. Only countries that end in "an" or "a" are eligible to take part in the sport (unfortunately you may need to move to Iran or possibly India )
2. Contestants must be shorter than 5ft 5in and have full body hair (front and back).(if you are taller than this you can stoop a bit)
3. Contestants must at all times be accompanied, and regularly berated by a 300lb trainer who resembles an angry bear who has been caught trying on lady bear outfits by his best bear buddies.
4. Competing nations must organise and bring along a rowdy bunch of short, aggressive-looking spectators, preferably with some sort of shady military background. They will deal with any border infractions of the segregated seating areas.
5. Contestants must be able to ignore any abuse from hostile crowds as to how homo-erotic the whole affair is.
Countdown to Ramadan calendars in Asda-like the ones we have for advent-you open a little window every day on the days leading up to Christmas but I had never seen ones for Ramadan before.
The delicate underwear has attracted buyers all over the world
Renowned lace makers in the Polish village of Koniakow have found a new way of boosting sales - sexy underwear.
Artisans who used to create gowns and altar cloths for customers such as the late Pope now craft G-strings and other lingerie for sale all over the world.
They say the underwear is quicker to make and easier to sell than traditional goods such as tablecloths.
But not everyone in the deeply Catholic village is happy with the changes to the 200-year old industry.
"Our lace is well known in Poland," Mieczyslaw Kamieniarz, whose family has made lace for five generations, told the French news agency AFP.
"We have made it for John Paul II, for the Queen of England, for church altars. It´s shameful and humiliating for Koniakow that this very same lace is being worn on people´s backsides," he said.
Traditionalists say the underwear betrays a 200-year-old craft
And some craftswomen apparently had doubts about the change.
"The priest told me that a woman came to confession and asked him if it was a sin to make G-strings," said Anna Barska, a 47-year-old lace maker.
But now many people have embraced the new business opportunity.
"Traditional lace craft was too expensive, so it wasn´t selling anymore. We weren´t making a living," said Malgorzata Sanaszek.
So when her experiment with G-strings proved to be a big hit, she set up a internet underwear sales company which now employs about 60 lace makers.
Buyers can choose bras, camisoles and other lingerie in dozens of delicate designs and colours. There is even a lacy thong on offer for men.
"Everything is guaranteed as 100% traditional Koniakow lace," Ms Sanaszek said.
Mahmoud Darwish, the award-winning Palestinian poet, has died aged 67
Mahmoud Darwish, the poet widely regarded as being the voice of the Palestinian people and chronicler of their struggle following the creation of Israel, died on Saturday August 9 after undergoing open heart surgery in a US hospital.
Now that I am filled with all the possible Reasons for departure I am not mine I am not mine I am not mine …
(Mahmoud Darwish, 200
In these verses, published about eight years ago, Darwish seems to be saying farewell to the world.
But this farewell was not spurred by death, but by his exile from his homeland of Palestine that seemed to haunt him for his entire life.
Darwish, who was born on the 13th of March 1941, was forced into exile along with his family at the age of seven.
Illegal return
His family fled their home town of Barweh in Galilee in 1948 during the Nakbah, or ´Catastrophe´ - the name given by Palestinians to the creation of Israel when many were forced to flee what had formerly been Palestine.
A year later, he returned illegally with his family to his town, to become an exile in his own country.
He joined the Israeli communist party and started publishing poems in leftist newspapers. His poems brought him persecution from the Israeli authorities, and love from the Arab public who saw in him their collective conscience.
He left in 1971 to study for a year in what was then the Soviet Union, before travelling to Egypt where he worked for Al-Ahram newspaper.
He also worked in Beirut, the capital of Lebanon, as an editor for the journal Palestinian Issues, but was forced to leave after the 1982 Israeli invasion.
He spent his life in exile between Arab capitals, including Amman, and also Paris, the French capital.
Political ´divorce´
Darwish, who was a member of the executive committee of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO), resigned in 1993 in protest at the signing in Washington of the Oslo Accords.
The accords, agreed in Norway, were the first direct agreement between Israel and political representatives of Palestinians in which some Palestinian groups accepted the right of Israel to exist as a state in what had previously been Palestine.
Some observers saw his resignation as an act of divorce from politics, and believed he had forever abandoned the resistance by Palestinians to Israeli occupation.
Some saw this belief as being confirmed by the fact Palestine no longer remained the focus of his poetry.
But Darwish´s decision to be seen to leave politics and ideology in reality signalled his refusal to be used by politicians, or to abuse the Palestinian cause.
He wanted to be celebrated for his poetic talent but, as a Palestinian, he rejected the notion of building his fame on the bodies of dead Palestinians.
By doing so, he blended the Palestinian story with mythology, history and the trials and tribulations of the oppressed, making the Palestinian cause more vivid for a world audience - but also more personal.
Striving for humanity
Darwish sought to transcend the political experience into the wide realm of the human being.
This gave him a chance to innovate with poetic structure and the classical Arabic language and enabled him to preserve the flow and grace of his poetry, despite its complexity.
Darwish returned to Ramallah in 1996 and re-established the prestigious journal Al Karmel, which had been originally founded in 1981 but interrupted the following year by the Israeli invasion of Beirut, and remained its editor-in-chief until his death.
During his stay in Ramallah, the literary movement was thriving. He helped introduce other exiled authors to the public, including Ghassan Kanafani.
Darwish once said: "I thought poetry could change everything, could change history and could humanise ... but now I think that poetry changes only the poet."
The reaction to his life, death and poetry testify to his error.
Green light from mullahs for killing of Shirin Ebadi? The charge has been prompted by an accusation issued by official sources, saying that the Nobel laureate has become Bahai. For the Iranian criminal code, this makes her worthy of death, and if someone were to kill her he would not be punished.
Tehran (AsiaNews) - The life of Shirin Ebadi, Nobel peace prize winner in 2003, is in danger. Ebadi has been fearless in denouncing the oppression of human rights in her country. The alarm has been raised by Rooz, a website for Iranian exiles, which deduces it from the "charge" made a few days ago by the official news agency IRNA, saying that Ebadi and her daughter, a student at McGill University in Canada, have become members of the Bahai religion. The Bahai are considered a heretical Islamic group, and are persecuted.
The accusation, according to Rooz, is a sham set up to disguise the intention of having the woman killed, or at least of frightening her to the point of making her stop her activities in favor of human rights, or leave the country.
The explanation has been given on the basis of the Iranian criminal code. Article 226 stipulates that the killing of a person is subject to ´Ghesas´, or retaliatory punishment, "only if the victim did not deserve death based on the Sharia, and if the victim deserved death the murderer must prove that in court, according to set criteria". According to Islamic law, apostasy, or abandoning Islam, is worthy of death. And her conversion to the Bahai faith puts Ebadi in this position.
As if that were not enough, a supplement to article 295 in the same criminal code stipulates that if a person kills another because he suspects that the victim deserves death, and this is proven in court, the killing is considered accidental homicide, and the author must only pay "blood money" to the victim´s family. But if the killer proves that the victim deserved death, he doesn´t even have to pay the "blood money", and will not face any penalty.
It is in the light of these laws that the article deduces in the first place that "they want to convince ignorant forces that Shirin Ebadi´s death is necessary. Any Muslim who takes her life is not punished, and perhaps goes to heaven". In the second place, "they want to frighten her to abandon all human rights-related activities or even leave the country".
Dicing with death for Gaza: Day 14 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:42:38 GMT By Yvonne Ridley
ISRAEL will stop at nothing to thwart the Free Gaza Movement.
And as our two-boat mission continues to head towards Cyprus there have been several attempts to undermine the heroic campaign to smash the siege of Gaza.
For instance, earlier this week someone fired a rocket at Israel from Gaza in defiance of the Hamas-brokered truce.
I can also tell you that whoever did fire the rocket into the Zionist State was also working for the Zionist State.
Yes, sadly, there are collaborators inside Gaza and the rocket firing was not only an attempt to wreck the cease-fire, it was a deliberate ploy to scupper the Free Gaza Movement which is gathering world attention and support.
As someone who has written about and studied the activities of intelligence agencies across the world for more than two decades, I can tell you that since the demise of the East German Stasi, there is no other spy agency as skilled at the art of black propaganda as Israel´s Mossad.
And I see my conclusion is also shared by a senior leader in Hamas, Dr Mahmud Zahar, who has criticised the rocket attack from Gaza in violation of a seven-week-old calm.
He said: "I think those who are responsible are those who collaborate with Israel because there is a consensus by all Palestinian groups to respect the truce."
The rocket fired from the Gaza Strip landed in an empty field outside the southern Israeli city of Sderot, causing no casualty or damage on Monday evening.
Speaking to Gaza radio station, Dr Zahar said whoever launched the rocket was "linked to Israel as they provide a pretext to exercise pressure on the Palestinian people."
And, of course, for every action there is a reaction by the Zionist State which uses such attacks to justify its vile actions. The following day Israel squeezed the immense pressure already exerted on the people of Gaza by closing the Nahal Oz crossing to Gaza Strip that is used to ferry in fuel and the Sufa passage for food deliveries to the impoverished and blockaded territory.
On his part, MP Jamal Al-Khudari, the head of the popular committee against the siege, strongly denounced the Israeli decision to close the crossings, stating that the Gaza commercial crossings are already paralyzed despite the calm.
In a press statement, Khudari underlined that the Gaza crossings especially Al-Mintar (Karni) crossing must remain open around the clock for more than a year in order to end the effects of the Israeli siege imposed on the Strip two years ago. The lawmaker also pointed out that Gaza needs more than 400 trucks laden with raw materials necessary for various industrial sectors.
Of course all this has given Israel yet another excuse to tighten its merciless grip on the world´s largest open air prison, and firing the rocket has given the Israeli Navy a good excuse to try and stop our seaborne mission to smash the siege of Gaza using two boats - the SS Free Gaza and the SS Liberty.
Their efforts will, of course, be in vain because as regular readers of this blog know, the Free Gaza Movement activists are determined to let nothing stop them in their peaceful mission to reach the people of Gaza by sea.
We are not asking permission to enter Israel. We pose absolutely no threat to Israel. We just want to reach the beach on the Gaza Strip with messages of peace, goodwill and some hearing aids for all those Palestinian children with hearing problems caused by Israeli bombs.
Of course the collaborators who fired the rocket into Israel earlier this week have not helped our cause, but I wonder just what pressure the Zionist State put on them to do this destructive action.
I only say this because of a report released just a few days ago which revealed Israel´s secret police are pressuring Palestinians in Gaza to spy on their community in exchange for urgent medical treatment.
The report was released by an Israeli human rights organisation. Physicians for Human Rights says the Shin Bet began interrogating Palestinian patients seeking permission to travel from Gaza to Israel for crucial medical help after Israel blockaded and then declared the tiny territory an enemy entity more than a year ago.
Typically, patients are taken to a small, windowless room, underground, beneath the security terminal at Erez, the only passenger crossing that remains open between Gaza and Israel, where they are questioned by Shin Bet agents for hours, the report says.
Refusal to cooperate often results in the denial of medical treatment. Based on the testimonies of more than 30 Palestinians - 11 of which are published - the report says the Shin Bet is using coercion and extortion to force patients to collaborate.
So you see, Israel´s intelligence services are capable of anything and believe me, I could write much more on what they´ve tried to do to stop us but that can wait until another day.
In the meantime our focus is Gaza and getting there, insh´Allah.
* Yvonne Ridley and film-maker Aki Nawaz are on board the Free Gaza and the SS Liberty making a documentary for Press TV about the journey from the Greek islands to Cyprus and then on to Gaza.
The radical muslimorganisation Al-Quaida looses more and more support in the countryside of Iraq, the part where the organisation is still in power. One of the reasons for their decreasing popularity are their strict islamic-fundamentalistic laws for buying vegetables and fruit. Women are not allowed anymore to buy ´suggestive formed´ products. The Al-Quaida leaders mean with that cucumbers, carrots and stuff because they think immediately of the male private parts. What are women allowed to buy? Tomatoes! According to Al-Quaida these vegetables are female shaped.
The radical muslimorganisation Al-Quaida looses more and more support in the countryside of Iraq, the part where the organisation is still in power. One of the reasons for their decreasing popularity are their strict islamic-fundamentalistic laws for buying vegetables and fruit. Women are not allowed anymore to buy ´suggestive formed´ products. The Al-Quaida leaders mean with that cucumbers, carrots and stuff because they think immediately of the male private parts. What are women allowed to buy? Tomatoes! According to Al-Quaida these vegetables are female shaped.
Source: Maghrebmagazine.nl
At first I laughed at this, but after sitting here pondering it..what a shame. I find it odd that their popularity is decreasing based on "suggestive formed products" What about suicide bombers? I can´t imagine their thought process. Ok, is alright to call them crazies now? referring to Al-Quaida of course.
At first I laughed at this, but after sitting here pondering it..what a shame. I find it odd that their popularity is decreasing based on "suggestive formed products" What about suicide bombers? I can´t imagine their thought process. Ok, is alright to call them crazies now? referring to Al-Quaida of course.
Of course this is not funny. It´s tragic what kind of mess the us has caused in the region. It´s disgusting.
At first I laughed at this, but after sitting here pondering it..what a shame. I find it odd that their popularity is decreasing based on "suggestive formed products" What about suicide bombers? I can´t imagine their thought process. Ok, is alright to call them crazies now? referring to Al-Quaida of course.
The popularity is not decreasing because of these products but because of the ´law´ that says women are not allowed to buy these products anymore (they might get naughty ideas buying a cucumber...) so many people died of starvation!
Of course this is not funny. It´s tragic what kind of mess the us has caused in the region. It´s disgusting.
Sorry, I blame the US for many things and I´m absolutely against the invasion of Iraq but to blame them for the idiot ideas of Al Quaida about cucumbers and carrots? No.
Sorry, I blame the US for many things and I´m absolutely against the invasion of Iraq but to blame them for the idiot ideas of Al Quaida about cucumbers and carrots? No.
Well, it is not blaming them for the ideas of al quaida. It is blaming them for creating such a situation where Iraq is now in such a chaos that terrorists are ruling it internally.
The police state has arrived. At JFK Airport, Denying Basic Rights Is Just Another Day at the Office By Emily Feder, AlterNet. Posted August 18, 2008.
I arrived at JFK Airport two weeks ago after a short vacation to Syria and presented my American passport for re-entry to the United States. After 28 hours of traveling, I had settled into a hazy awareness that this was the last, most familiar leg of a long journey. I exchanged friendly words with the Homeland Security official who was recording my name in his computer. He scrolled through my passport, and when his thumb rested on my Syrian visa, he paused. Jerking toward the door of his glass-enclosed booth, he slid my passport into a dingy green plastic folder and walked down the hallway, motioning for me to follow with a flick of his wrist. Where was he taking me, I asked him. "You´ll find out," he said.
We got to an enclosed holding area in the arrivals section of the airport. He shoved the folder into my hand and gestured toward four sets of Homeland Security guards sitting at large desks. Attached to each desk were metal poles capped with red, white and blue siren lights. I approached two guards carrying weapons and wearing uniforms similar to New York City police officers, but they shook their heads, laughed and said, "Over there," pointing in the direction of four overflowing holding pens. I approached different desks until I found an official who nodded and shoved my green folder in a crowded metal file holder. When I asked him why I was there, he glared at me, took a sip from his water bottle, bit into a sandwich, and began to dig between his molars with his forefinger. I found a seat next to a man who looked about my age -- in his late 20s -- and waited.
Omar (not his real name) finished his fifth year in biomedical engineering at City College in June. He had just arrived from Beirut, where he visited his family and was waiting to go home to the apartment he shared with his brother in Harlem. Despite his near-perfect English and designer jeans, Omar looked scared. He rubbed his hands and rocked softly in his seat. He had been waiting for hours already, and, as he pointed out, a number of people -- some sick, elderly, pregnant or holding sobbing babies -- had too. There were approximately 70 people detained in our cordoned-off section: All were Arab (with the exception of me and the friend I traveled with), and almost all had arrived from Dubai, Amman or Damascus. Many were U.S. citizens.
We were in the front row, sitting a few feet from two guards´ desks. They sneered at each bewildered arrival, told jokes in whispers, swiveled in their office chairs and greeted passing guards who stopped to talk -- guards who had a habit of looping their fingers into their holsters. One asked his friend how many nationalities were represented in the room. "About 20. Some of everything today."
No one who had been detained knew precisely why they were there. A few people were led into private rooms; others were questioned out in the open at desks a few feet from the crowd and then allowed to pass through customs. Some were sent to another section of the holding area with large computer screens and cameras, and then brought back. The uninformed consensus among the detainees was that some people would be fingerprinted, have their irises scanned and be sent back to the countries from which they had disembarked, regardless of citizenship status; others would be fingerprinted and allowed to stay; and the unlucky ones would be detained indefinitely and moved to a more permanent facility.
There was one British tourist in the group. Paul (also not his real name) was traveling with three friends who had passed through customs soon after their plane landed and were waiting for him on the other side of the metal barrier; he suspected he had been detained because of his dark skin. When he asked if he could go to the bathroom, one of the guards said, "I wouldn´t." "What if someone has to?" I asked. "They will just have to hold it," the guard responded with a smile. Paul began to cry. I watched as he, over the course of four hours, went from feeling exuberant about his trip to New York to despising the entire country. "I speak the Queen´s English," he said to me. "I´m third-generation British. I came to America because I´ve always wanted to come here, and now they´ve got me so scared that all I want to do is go home. We´re paying for your stupid war anyway."
To be powerless and mocked at the same time makes one feel ashamed, which leads quickly to rage. Within a few hours of my arrival, I saw at least 10 people denied the right to use the bathroom or buy food and water. I watched my traveling companion duck under a barrier, run to the bathroom and slip back into the holding section -- which, of course, someone of another ethnicity in a state of panic would be very reluctant to do. The United States is good at naming enemies, but apparently we are even better at making them, especially of individuals. I don´t know if it´s worse for national security -- and more embarrassing for Americans -- that this is the first experience tourists have of our country, or that some U.S. citizens get treated this way upon entering their own country.
The guard who had been picking his molars for hours quietly mispronounced the names of people whose turn it was to be questioned, muttering each surname three times and then moving on. When he called Omar from City College to his desk, I moved closer to hear the interview. "Where did you go?" the officer asked. "What is your address in the United States? Is your brother here illegally? Do you support Hezbollah? What do you think of Hezbollah in general? How do you pay for your life here? How many people live with you? Are you sure it´s just you and your brother? Who are your friends?" Omar answered respectfully and emphatically; he was then asked to wait by the side of the desk, from which he was ushered toward one of the rooms.
After four hours, I finally demanded to speak to the guards´ supervisor, and he was called down. I asked if the detainees could file a formal complaint. He said there were complaint forms (which, in English and Spanish, direct one to the Department of Homeland Security´s Web site, where one must enter extensive personal information in order to file a "Trip Summary") but initially refused to hand them out or to give me his telephone number. "The Department of Homeland Security is understaffed, underfunded, and I have men here who are doing 14-hour days." He tried to intimidate me when I wrote down his name -- "So, you´re writing down our names. Well, we have more on you" -- and asked me questions about my address and my profession in front of the rest of the people detained. I pointed out a few of the families who had missed their flights and had been waiting seven hours. His voice barely controlled, his lip curled into a smirk, he explained slowly, condescendingly, that they need only go to the ticket counter at Jet Blue and reschedule so they could fly out in an hour. One mother responded with what he must have already known: Jet Blue goes to most destinations only once or twice a day and her whole family would have to sleep in the airport.
A large crowd began to gather. Everyone wanted to voice complaints. I explained to the supervisor that his guards had been making people afraid. He flipped through the green files, tossing the American passports to the front of the pile. "You should have gone first, before these people. American citizens first -- that´s how it should be." In the face of dozens of requests and questions, he turned and left.
The guards processed me then, ignoring the order of arrivals, if there ever had been one. They refused to distribute more complaint forms or call the supervisor back down at the request of Arab families. One officer threatened, "I´m talking politely to you now. If you don´t sit down, I won´t be talking politely to you anymore." One announced that because "the American girl" had gotten angry, the families would have to wait a few more hours. "The supervisor is not coming back."
I reassured my Homeland Security interrogator that I did not make any connections with Hezbollah or with anyone I knew to be associated with such an organization. I am not a member of any terrorist group. In fact, my visit to Syria had been so apolitical and touristy that I felt an embarrassing affinity with the pastel-shirted families waiting by the Air France baggage carousels in the distance, whom I knew I would eventually join.
As I walked out of the enclosure, some people thanked me, squeezing my arm and putting their hands on my shoulders. It was shocking that briefly standing up to someone overseeing an abuse of civil rights -- in JFK airport, in the United States, where we supposedly have laws and a democratic judicial system -- could be perceived as heroic. I had nothing to lose, but the other people being detained had everything to lose.
In the past five years I have worked for human rights and refugee advocacy organizations in Serbia, Russia and Croatia, including the International Rescue Committee and USAID. I have traveled to many different places, some supposedly repressive, and have never seen people treated with the kind of animosity that Homeland Security showed that night. In Syria, border control officers were stern but polite. At other borders there have been bureaucracies to contend with -- excruciating for both Americans and other foreign nationals. I´ve met Russian officials with dead, suspicious looks in their eyes and arms tired from stamping so many visas, but in America, the Homeland Security officials I encountered were very much alive -- like vultures waiting to eat.
Long ago the IDF´s behavior amply evidenced that a Jewish army is as brutal, as bestialic, and as inhumane as any other army. Armies bring out the animal homo sapiens in pure form, and ahah! We find that homo sapiens "the soldier" is the same world-wide no matter what insignia is on his uniform. This self-serving prattle about "purity of arms" and "sacredness of life" deserves nothing but contempt by an objective observor, but may sound great to those who cling to the fading fiction that a genocide commited by the Jewish State can reflect differently on its perpetrators than any other genocide in history.
McCain
Deliberate killing of civilians outside a combat theater is a war crime. The definition of "war crime" does not turn on the technique of delivery of death. Both a rocket-armed drone and an explosive-armed human body are war crime techniques when used to foreseeably cause the death of helpless civilians outside a combat theater. If we operate on the premise that the whole world is a combat theater, we may expect the enemy to share that view. This drone program makes civilian women and children players, for better or worse, in today´s violence. Inevitably the killing of helpless women and children villagers by drone rockets will stimulate reprisals against equally helpless US citizens working or traveling abroad. Sen. McCain´s POW torture reprisal scenario applies equally to civilian war crime scenarios. Deterrence is an equal opportunity rationale for murder of innocents. I fear Americans will reap what they sow.
This impassioned memoir is a cry of conscience and an informative, if politically and historically limited, analysis by a former U.S. Marine. Steidle began work in Sudan in 2004, as a military contractor with the two-year-old Joint Military Commission to monitor the fragile cease-fire agreement in Africa´s longest civil war between the Arab-dominated government of Sudan in the north and the rebel SPLA representing black African tribes of the south. As his career advances, Steidle is drawn into the province of Darfur, where government troops and government-backed Arab militias (known as Janjaweed or "the devil on a horse") operate against a 2003 uprising of black African tribes (overwhelmingly fellow Muslims) in a campaign whose virulence and destruction clearly amount to genocide. Steidle, who eventually became an unarmed American military observer for the African Union´s cease-fire coalition, composed this account with his sister, an activist and founder of Global Grassroots, in conjunction with their documentary film of the same name and a traveling photo exhibit and college lecture tour. Drawing heavily on notes and e-mails home, Steidle´s personal and fluent account effectively channels an idealistic, adventuresome young man´s growing frustration and horror in the face of ongoing crimes against humanity and international complacency.
This impassioned memoir is a cry of conscience and an informative, if politically and historically limited, analysis by a former U.S. Marine. Steidle began work in Sudan in 2004, as a military contractor with the two-year-old Joint Military Commission to monitor the fragile cease-fire agreement in Africa´s longest civil war between the Arab-dominated government of Sudan in the north and the rebel SPLA representing black African tribes of the south. As his career advances, Steidle is drawn into the province of Darfur, where government troops and government-backed Arab militias (known as Janjaweed or "the devil on a horse") operate against a 2003 uprising of black African tribes (overwhelmingly fellow Muslims) in a campaign whose virulence and destruction clearly amount to genocide. Steidle, who eventually became an unarmed American military observer for the African Union´s cease-fire coalition, composed this account with his sister, an activist and founder of Global Grassroots, in conjunction with their documentary film of the same name and a traveling photo exhibit and college lecture tour. Drawing heavily on notes and e-mails home, Steidle´s personal and fluent account effectively channels an idealistic, adventuresome young man´s growing frustration and horror in the face of ongoing crimes against humanity and international complacency.
1. Russia is threatening to attack Poland after Poland signed anti-missle defense with the US
2. 153 people killed in Madrid plane crush...
3. Russia cuts all military ties with NATO...
1. No way! They´ll just "punish" by limiting our export there. And I´m not surprised at all after what our stupid president said about Russia having always been Poland´s enemy. It´s not really about those missile interceptors, ever since that mockery of a diplomat - Kaczynski was elected he´s been doing his best to spoil our relationship with Russia, hoping that the US whose butt he licks will become our partner and best friend. Of course that´s not gonna happen - the US has always been working in their own business only, forgetting their allies when it was convenient.
2. That´s terrible, just think that an hour earlier the pilot asked for a technical check-up as he thought there was something wrong with the engine
3. Not surprising
I´d add:
4. 3 Poles killed and one wounded in Afghanistan. About time to leave that country!
In exchange for the missile interceptors the US will locate in Poland, they want to present us with...our own Statue of Liberty whose estimated cost will be $50mln. Yeah, that´s exactly what we need
In exchange for the missile interceptors the US will locate in Poland, they want to present us with...our own Statue of Liberty whose estimated cost will be $50mln. Yeah, that´s exactly what we need
Typically crass of them, or I should say " NOT teribly astute of them"
Forgive the spelling error, but the anagram jumped out at me.
Award Willing Palestinian Journalist, Mohammed Omer, Detained, Strip-Searched, and Beaten by Israeli Occupation Security Forces, on his return to Illegally Occupied Gaza
Despite the agreement on the possibility that Muslims and Copts could be mutually donors of organs, the chairman of the Egyptian doctors´ association, Muslim Hamdi el Sayed, decided to ban the donations waiting for the approval of an ad hoc law, currently under discussion in Parliament. The goal is to impede fictitious donations, actually made for money. The decision however sparked off a fierce polemic by the Copts who consider it a discriminatory measure. The news was reported by the Egyptian and Arab media after Copt lawyer Naguib Jibrael, chairman of the non-government organisation Egyptian union for human rights, threatened to take El Sayed in court. "The association of the doctors behaves as if it were an authority that has the right to issue fatwas (religious opinions), Al Azhar or the church, putting in discussion even the right to citizenship," the lawyer says. "Why the Muslims are not angry at this decision, as some Copts are?" replied the chairman of the doctors association who is also chairman of the healthcare committee at the lower house of Parliament and author of the bill currently under discussion in Parliament. The decision to block for the moment the donations between Muslims and Copts and vice versa, El Sayed claims, came from the need to impede the illegal trade of organs, but there is no objection to the donation if it is really free.
´Ping pong is coming home´London´s Mayor accepts the challenge to better Beijing.
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The London Mayor strode on to the international stage yesterday, happily waved the Olympic flag, and told the watching world in no uncertain terms: "Ping pong is coming home".
...., Mr Johnson said Britain had invented table tennis over its dining tables before it became a Chinese national obsession.
To cheers from the assembled British officials, Mr Johnson declared that the Chinese "have excelled magnificently at ping pong. Ping pong was invented on the dining tables of England and it was called whiff whaff".
"There you have, I think, the essential difference between us and the rest of the world. Other nations such as the French looked at the dining table and saw the opportunity to have dinner. We looked at the dining table and saw an opportunity to play whiff whaff.
He continued: "That is why London is the sporting capital of the world. I say to the Chinese and I say to the world – ping pong is coming home."
Incidentally, Boris Johnson, the London Mayor, is the great grandchild of Ali Kemal (who was a journalist who fled in exile to Paris after receiving a death sentence for his newspaper articles, then became part of the Turkish government until soon after Ataturk became leader - whereupon he was killed by a mob of nationalists.
Boris Johnson´s surname is Kemal, but his mother changed their name to Johnson after the family came to the UK.
A must see animated Iranian movie: PERSEPOLIS, by Marjane Satrapi
Persepolis tells the story of Marjane, a young girl born to an aristocratic Iranian family during the reign of the Shah. As adolescence hits Marjane, the Islamic Revolution hits Iran. Guided by a sage and saucy grandmother, independently minded parents and the lyrics of 80s-era American punk, Marjane is the kind of girl that doesn’t take crap from anyone. This charming trait soon lands her in trouble in a country that frowns on dissent.
She is sent abroad, takes up with a group of anarchists, gets her heart broken, lives on the streets and eventually finds herself back in Iran, pretending to live the life of a nice Muslim girl. But as we all know, opinionated women never stay quiet for long.
From the moment the film began, I was transported into a mythical and exotic land where everything revolved around the world of a precocious girl. Instead of being waifish and weak, or cruel and conniving, this little girl was a bull. And she was funny. Her treacherous navigation into adulthood was incredibly real and riddled with pain. But all of her struggles made Marjane’s eventual redemption that much more sweet.
The film also allows an insider glimpse into the mysterious culture and politics of Iran. In case you haven’t noticed, the Republicans are ready to bomb the shit out of that country as soon as they have a good enough excuse. Most Americans don’t know anything about Iran or the people that live there, myself included. Persepolis at least helped me understand that, like America, not everyone in Iran is pumped about their leadership.
Politics and puberty aside, Persepolis is ultimately about trying to fit in. Marjane struggles to belong in a restrictive society, but when she goes abroad, she discovers it´s no fun living in a world where everyone thinks Muslims are cruel heathens. In the opening scene, Marjane puts on her head scarf in the airport bathroom, readying for her return to the Muslim world. She immediately garners dirty looks. In the next scene, Marjane rips the headscarf off and lights a cigarette. It’s clear that, whether heading to Iran or not, she never really want to wear it anyway.
Watching a show last night "The Most Outrageous Moments.. I couldn´t believe when they showed Izmar Turkey. The store owners were ticked at eachother and ended up with a whole street fight with people hitting eachother over the heads with wooden cains.
A SAUDI court will next month hear a plea for divorce from an eight-year-old girl married off by her father to a man in his fifties, the Arabic-language daily Al-Watan reported today.
It said the girl´s mother had filed the divorce case with the court at Unayzah 220km north of Riyadh, and cited lawyer Abdullah Jtili as saying the father had arranged the marriage without telling the girl.
"She doesn´t know yet that she has been married,´´ added Jtili of the girl who is about to begin her fourth year at primary school.
Al-Watan said relatives of the girl had told a Saudi rights group of her plight and urged it to intervene to have the marriage annulled.
But the daily also reported that the husband had refused to renounce the marriage, saying that he had not done anything illegal.
Arranged marriages involving pre-adolescents are occasionally reported in the Arabian Peninsula, including in the ultra-conservative Saudi kingdom where the strict conservative Wahabi version of Sunni Islam holds sway and polygamy is common.
In Yemen in April, another girl aged eight was granted a divorce after her unemployed father forced her to marry a man of 28.
(Newser) – Three US officers shot four blindfolded and handcuffed Iraqi detainees early last year and dumped their bodies in a canal, according to statements made to military investigators and obtained by the New York Times. The men are likely to face murder charges. Four others from the same platoon have been charged with murder conspiracy for agreeing to the killings, according to authorities.
The detainees were suspected Mahdi Army fighters captured in Baghdad. After being told to release the men due to insufficient evidence against them, the platoon´s first sergeant ordered that the prisoners be shot as revenge for the earlier deaths of two American soldiers, according to statements by two of the men who admitted to shooting the men in the head. "I´m ashamed of what I´ve done," said one of the shooters.
Confessions from U.S. Soldiers in Iraq on the Brutal Treatment of Civilians.
Interviews with 50 Iraq war veterans reveal disturbing patterns of behavior by US troops in Iraq against innocent civilians -- brutal acts that often go unreported and almost always go unpunished.
Israel has published tenders for the construction of 1,761 illegal housing units for Israeli settlers in occupied east Jerusalem alone, according to the Israeli rights group Peace Now.
The expansion plans come despite promises by the Israeli government at last year´s peace summit at Annapolis, Maryland (in the U.S.) to freeze all settlement growth.
"Once again this government has shown that its words and commitments are meaningless, and they have no intention of keeping to their word," says Peace Now.
United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has stressed repeatedly that settlement construction or expansion in the West Bank is contrary to international law and Israel´s commitments under the ´road map´ peace process.
The road map was a series of peace-building measures proposed by U.S. President George W. Bush in 2002 and subsequently developed by the diplomatic Quartet of the European Union, the United Nations, Russia and the United States.
Ban Ki-moon further urged Israel to freeze all settlement activity and to dismantle outposts erected since March of 2001.
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, normally a die-hard supporter of Israel, also expressed her concern about the settlement building during her last visit to Israel several months ago.
"It´s important to have an atmosphere of confidence and trust," Rice said following talks she held with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah. "The United States believes that the (settlement) actions and the announcements that are taking place are indeed having a negative effect on the atmosphere for negotiation."
A SAUDI court will next month hear a plea for divorce from an eight-year-old girl married off by her father to a man in his fifties, the Arabic-language daily Al-Watan reported today.
It said the girl´s mother had filed the divorce case with the court at Unayzah 220km north of Riyadh, and cited lawyer Abdullah Jtili as saying the father had arranged the marriage without telling the girl.
"She doesn´t know yet that she has been married,´´ added Jtili of the girl who is about to begin her fourth year at primary school.
Al-Watan said relatives of the girl had told a Saudi rights group of her plight and urged it to intervene to have the marriage annulled.
But the daily also reported that the husband had refused to renounce the marriage, saying that he had not done anything illegal.
Arranged marriages involving pre-adolescents are occasionally reported in the Arabian Peninsula, including in the ultra-conservative Saudi kingdom where the strict conservative Wahabi version of Sunni Islam holds sway and polygamy is common.
In Yemen in April, another girl aged eight was granted a divorce after her unemployed father forced her to marry a man of 28.
Married at 8 years? Sorry, I can´t and don´t want to understand that people think that is ok.
Sorry, Trudy, this is not true! Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda). Nothing of such takes place in Middle East. Women rights are respected in all Islamic countries, because the Prophet told so, thats why He waited for Aisha for 3 years until she reached her puberty, bless his heart. You see he took care of all those widows by marrying them off to himself. You don´t see how his heart was kind and beautiful towards those poor widowed women who lost their husbands in the wars for the goal to unite nations under one religion, the religion of peace.
Sorry, Trudy, this is not true! Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda). Nothing of such takes place in Middle East. Women rights are respected in all Islamic countries, because the Prophet told so, thats why He waited for Aisha for 3 years until she reached her puberty, bless his heart. You see he took care of all those widows by marrying them off to himself. You don´t see how his heart was kind and beautiful towards those poor widowed women who lost their husbands in the wars for the goal to unite nations under one religion, the religion of peace.
I don´t remember entering this particular debate so , please don´t quote me out of context.
photographs of the Muslim holy cities Mecca and Medina, taken by a Japanese convert, Ali Kazuyoshi Nomachi, are something new for most Westerners, and perhaps even for many Muslims. Non-Muslims are never allowed into Mecca, and it is almost unheard-of for religious and government leaders to allow such pictures to be taken. Most of these images were shot during the holy month of Ramadan, when many faithful are in Mecca and Medina on pilgrimage.
Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr, professor of Islamic studies at George Washington University, has contributed an essay explaining the history and significance of the two cities. "Mecca and its twin city Medina flourish as the heart and sacred Center of the Islamic universe and will continue to do so as long as there are men and women who accept the truth of Lailaha illa´Llah and Muhammadun rasul Allah," he writes.
Nomachi has worked for National Geographic and Life, and his pictures have the information-packed clarity one might expect. There are fascinating images: literally hundreds of thousands of white-robed believers circling the Ka´bah, Mecca´s sacred center; men ritually shaving one another´s heads; tired families fasting; small children praying. Nomachi´s pictures are oddly cool, but they convey the all-encompassing nature of the faith. Mecca the Blessed, Medina the Radiant will be especially thrilling to those Muslims still planning their pilgrimage.
,6 m found colossal statues. along with the colossuses of Memnon of XVIII Dynasty
A team of European and Egyptian archaeologists announced Saturday that there did a series of discoveries that will change the perception of the famous place of the colossuses of Memnon, in Luxor, in south of Egypt.
Coinciding with the visit to the ancient Tebas of the Egyptian minister of Culture, Faruk Hosni, the archaeologists informed about the find of a 3,62 meters giant statue of the queen Tiya, the wife of the Pharaoh of XVIII Dynasty Amenofis III, that governed from 1417 to 1379 before Christ, more two sphinxes representing the real couple and ten statues in black Sejmet granite, the divinity with head of lion.
A US court in Dayton, Ohio, has convicted a mother of murdering her one-month-old daughter by burning her to death in a microwave oven.
China Arnold, 28, showed no emotion when the jury announced its guilty verdict, only lowering her head. The prosecution said that Arnold had killed her daughter, Paris Talley, in 2005 after a fight with her boyfriend. The jury will reassemble next Tuesday to decide if Arnold, convicted of aggravated murder, should face death. Officials investigating the case said Paris Talley had suffered high-heat internal burns but had no external marks. Prosecutors said that the baby’s DNA had been found inside the microwave in Arnold’s apartment. Arnold’s cellmate told the court that she had confessed to putting her daughter in the microwave and switching it on, because she was afraid that her boyfriend would leave her if he discovered that he was not the baby’s father. The defence team said that there was evidence that somebody else was responsible for Paris Talley’s death. An eight-year-old boy told the court he had seen another boy walk into the kitchen of a nearby apartment, heard the microwave being switched on and had later seen the burned baby in the oven. However, the boy’s mother said they lived some distance away and that they were not in Arnold’s apartment complex when Paris Talley died.
Sorry, Trudy, this is not true! Media lies (ask Doudi)! Media fabricates such sort of stories to earn more money (ask Peacetrain or Alameda). Nothing of such takes place in Middle East. Women rights are respected in all Islamic countries, because the Prophet told so, thats why He waited for Aisha for 3 years until she reached her puberty, bless his heart. You see he took care of all those widows by marrying them off to himself. You don´t see how his heart was kind and beautiful towards those poor widowed women who lost their husbands in the wars for the goal to unite nations under one religion, the religion of peace.
Ermm maybe I am a bit dim today but.... please tell me your post is a joke...right?
I wish I were, but so far I fail, I fail in diplomatic relationships with Egypt (including all ME), Turkey and many PeaceOrientedTrains throughout the Western World.
I wish I were, but so far I fail, I fail in diplomatic relationships with Egypt (including all ME), Turkey and many PeaceOrientedTrains throughout the Western World.
I love your posts (they seem so familiar ), therefore diplomatic relations with WarOrientedTrains throughout the Western World would appear to be amicable today
I love your posts (they seem so familiar ), therefore diplomatic relations with WarOrientedTrains throughout the Western World would appear to be amicable today
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan: A Pakistani lawmaker defended a decision by southwestern tribesmen to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands, telling stunned members of Parliament this week to spare him their outrage.
"These are centuries-old traditions and I will continue to defend them," Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, said Saturday. "Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."
The women, three of whom were teenagers, were first shot and then thrown into a ditch.
They were still breathing as their bodies were covered with rocks and mud, according media reports and human rights activists, who said their only "crime" was that they wished to marry men of their own choosing
Zehri told a packed and flabbergasted Parliament on Friday that Baluch tribal traditions helped stop obscenity and then asked fellow lawmakers not to make a big fuss about it.
Many stood up in protest, saying the executions were "barbaric" and demanding that discussions continue Monday. But a handful said it was an internal matter of the deeply conservative province.
"I was shocked," said lawmaker Nilofar Bakhtiar, who pushed for legislation calling for perpetrators of so-called honor killings to be punished when she served as minister of women´s affairs under the last government.
"I feel that we´ve gone back to the starting point again," she said. "It´s really sad for me."
The incident allegedly occurred one month ago in Baba Kot, a remote village in Jafferabad district, after the women decided to defy tribal elders and arrange marriages in a civil court, according to the Asian Human Rights Commission.
They were said to have been abducted at gunpoint by six men, forced into a vehicle and taken to a remote field, where they were beaten, shot and then buried alive, it said, accusing local authorities of trying to hush up the killings.
One of perpetrators was allegedly related to a top provincial official, it said.
Accounts about the killings have varied, largely because police in the tribal region have been uncooperative. Activists and lawmakers said a more thorough investigation needed to be carried out.
The Asian Human Rights Commission, however, said the two older women may have been related to some of the teenage girls and were apparently murdered because they were sympathetic to their wishes.
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Associated Press reporter Munir Ahmad contributed to this report.
I don´t know about what caught my eye, rather I would like to catch someones eye ...................................................... with my fist But I need some training first
Holland´s military intelligence service (AIVD) recently suspended an intelligence operation aimed at infiltrating and sabotaging the Iranian weapon manufacturing industry following estimates that the United States plans to attack the Islamic republic in the coming weeks, according to a report by Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf, quoted by media worldwide Monday.
According to the report, the operation, deemed successful, was recently halted due to preparations for a US airstrike in Iran. The Dutch believe that the bombed targets will include the locations of their espionage operation.
Knowledgeable sources told the Dutch newspaper that a senior agent was recently removed from the country "due to the belief that the US is about to make a decision within weeks on a strike in Iran using unmanned aircraft."
According to the report, information gleaned from the AIVD´s operation in Iran has provided several of the targets that are to be attacked in the strike, including "parts for missiles and launching equipment." "Information from the AIVD operation has been shared in recent years with the CIA," the report said.
On Saturday, Iran´s Deputy Chief of Staff General Masoud Jazayeri warned that should the United States or Israel attack Iran, it would be the start of another World War.
On Friday, Israeli daily Ma´ariv reported that Israel had made a strategic decision to deny Iran military nuclear capability and would not hesitate "to take whatever means necessary" to prevent Teheran from achieving its nuclear goals.
According to the report, whether the United States and Western countries succeed in thwarting the Islamic Republic´s nuclear program diplomatically, through sanctions, or whether a US strike on Iran is eventually decided upon, Tel Aviv has begun preparing for a separate, independent military strike. AL MANAR news
That ´intelligence´ in AIVD has nothing to do with intelligent or being smart enough to spying. They acted so many times so wrong! BTW, the AIVD is not the militairy intelligence service, it´s the civilian one - a department of the ministry of Home Affairs, not of the ministry of Defence.
De Telegraaf is the worst tabloid here in the Netherlands. Everything they publish you can take with a grain of salt! Better not a grain but a kilo....
That ´intelligence´ in AIVD has nothing to do with intelligent or being smart enough to spying. They acted so many times so wrong! BTW, the AIVD is not the militairy intelligence service, it´s the civilian one - a department of the ministry of Home Affairs, not of the ministry of Defence.
De Telegraaf is the worst tabloid here in the Netherlands. Everything they publish you can take with a grain of salt! Better not a grain but a kilo....
THE GREAT BRITISH DUCK RACE ALONG THE RIVER THAMES
250,000 rubber ducks are released on the Thames at Hampton Court at the start of the Great British Duck Race,The largest charity duck race in the world. The race took place on Sunday, 31st August 2008 on the River Thames, near Hampton Court, Surrey. Members of the public ïadopted a (rubber) duckÍ on behalf of a number of charities, raced it down the Thames, and had a chance of winning a great prize! The race is an annual event that currently takes place in 18 countries around the world.
Panda Birthday
August 29, 2008 (Xinhua) -- Giant Panda Wei Wei and Xi Wang (or Hope) have their meals in the Wuhan Zoo in Wuhan, capital of central China´s Hubei Province, August 29, 2008. The zoo keepers marked 3rd birthday for Wei Wei in the zoo on Friday.
I don´t think that, but bear in mind the tabloid quality of the Dutch newspaper. It´s rubbish, they change facts many times until they like the outcome.
Angola: Militant Christians decapitate Muslim girl -- no, wait...
Actually, oddly enough, it was jihadists who decapitated a Christian girl.
An undated but apparently recent item from the Barnabas Fund, "Angola - Girl Decapitated In Attack By Muslim Extremists":
Muslim extremists recently attacked the Christian community in the town of Andulo. In an horrific incident, the school-age daughter of a deacon at one of the churches was decapitated. Forty believers were assaulted or tortured, and one of them needed 20 stitches in his head. The mob burned three church buildings. They also went to believers’ houses to intimidate them and damaged or destroyed items of property. Stones were thrown at the headquarters of a local Christian project, causing some damage.
Commenting to Barnabas Fund, an Angolan Christian leader said that the local police were unable to stop the attack and fled the scene, and the government seems reluctant to take action against Muslims, perhaps because it believes that Muslim aid is valuable to the nation. The community in Andulo is confused and disturbed, not least because they had believed what the Muslims told them: that Islam is a peaceful religion and that Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters, worshipping the same God....
Trudy makes interesting points that help to evaluate this startling account in this Dutch Newspaper. I would add to her comment, that the story has not been picked up by the major news media in the USA. Perhaps they share her opinion of De Teleegraf.
Iranian Award-winning film ’The Song of Sparrows’ will premiere in 13 countries worldwide. France, US, Germany, Mexico, Belgium, Greece, Norway, South Korea, Mexico and Portugal are among the 13 countries to screen Majid Majidi’s movie in the upcoming months, Mehr News Agency said. Fortissimo Films, the Netherlands-based film production and distribution company, has clinched global rights to the film. ’The Song of Sparrows’ earned Reza Naji the Silver Bear for best actor at the 58th Berlin International Film Festival (Berlinale). Prior to its win at the Berlinale, the film also took the best director, editing, original score and makeup prizes at the 26th Fajr International Film Festival. The film’s Tehran premier is scheduled for October 1 concurrent with Eid al-Fitr which marks the end of the holy fasting month of Ramadan. It also participated in numerous international film festivals, including at the 43rd Karlovy Vary International Film Festival in the Czech Republic. ’The Song of the Sparrows’ is the story of Karim, who enjoys his work as ostrich breeder at a ranch in Shahriyar, west of Tehran. He is a loving husband and father of three who is laid off from work because one of the birds runs away into the hills. He commutes to the city and his efforts to help his family lead to succession of problems.
Afghan child mortality linked to uneducated mothers
HONG KONG (Reuters) -- High child mortality rates in conservative Afghanistan are linked not just to war but to mothers being uneducated and having little or no say when their children need medical help, a study has found.
Child mortality rates in Afghanistan are among the highest in the world, and one out of every five Afghan children (or 191 out of every 1,000 live births) will not survive beyond age five.
The study of 2,474 children from 1,327 households in Kabul province found that diarrhea (32.5 percent), acute respiratory infection (41 percent), emaciation (12.4 percent) and stuntedness (39.9 percent) were among the most common health problems, said the article published in the latest issue of BioMed Central Public Health.
""As in other countries, the primary caregivers of small children in Afghanistan are their mothers; however, in this country, mothers are subject to a number of restrictions in the decision-making process regarding child healthcare,"" said the article published by a team of Afghan and Japanese researchers.
The researchers said they interviewed mothers of the children and found the problems correlated most closely with mothers not having any autonomy (79.1 percent) and education (71.7 percent).
Up to 18.3 percent of the mothers also delivered their first child before they were 16, which meant they were married when they were still children, the researchers wrote.
A shortage of basic material needs was also observed in 59.1 percent of the households.
The researchers defined a lack of maternal autonomy to mean mothers requiring permission from the head of the household to bring a child to the doctor, or if she required another person - usually a male relative - to accompany her to a clinic with the child.
Afghanistan is deeply conservative and women´s movements are still restricted in many parts of the country.
The researchers defined a lack of education as not having attended school for at least a year.
""The poor economic and educational status of these women, and their overall immaturity caused by a lack of learning opportunities may have resulted in difficulties in preventing illness in their children,"" they wrote.
A woman was told by a reflexologist her aching knees would get better if he gave her an orgasm with a vibrating massager, a jury heard yesterday. Stuart Hill, 57, allegedly said he was using a Chinese “hormone therapy” technique, which was banned in Britain. It is claimed he then placed the device on intimate spots and licked the woman’s breasts. Prosecutor Amanda Rippon told Durham Crown Court: “He told her she needed to be orgasmic. She began to think this was legitimate therapy. “She began to feel better and told her husband the defendant was a miracle worker. He was just taking advantage.” Hill, of Brandon, Co Durham, denies nine sex assault and indecency charges. Case continues.
It was an unusually honest ad for a live-in nanny, a 1,000-word tome beginning, "My kids are a pain." But it worked, attracting a brave soul who´s never been a nanny before."If you cannot multitask, or communicate without being passive aggressive, don´t even bother replying," Rebecca Land Soodak, a mother of four on Manhattan´s Upper East Side, wrote Aug. 19 in her advertisement on Craigslist. "I can be a tad difficult to work for. I´m loud, pushy and while I used to think we paid well, I am no longer sure." This being the age of instant communications, the ad took on a life of its own, making the rounds of parenting blogs and e-mail inboxes and inspiring an article in Thursday´s New York Times. Soodak, a 40-year-old painter whose husband owns a wine store, eventually hired Christina Wynn, a 25-year-old University of Virginia graduate, to take care of Rubin, 12; Ellis, 9; and Shay and Cassie, both 6. "I made a commitment to stay in the job for at least a year," Wynn told the Times. "I met the oldest child, but not the others, which my mother said was crazy -- to accept the job without meeting all the kids.
A Palestinian couple locked their disabled kids in two urine-stained rooms for forty years because they were afraid the children would ruin the marriage prospects of a healthy child, police has revealed.
The case has highlighted the shame felt by families who have children with disabilities in Palestinian society “made worse because of poor services and the practice of first-cousin marriages in Arab communities.”
“This is sad, shameful and awful,” The Scotsman quoted Imad Abumohr, a disabled rights activist, as saying.
Few people in the rural town of Beit Awwa knew of Basam Musalmeh, 38, and his sister Nawal, 42 were kept in two crumbling concrete rooms that stank of sweat and urine behind their family’s house.
Police found them during a raid on Tuesday night, while searching for Hamas loyalists and criminals in the village.
Palestinian police commander Samih Saify said that during the search police heard unusual noises and went to investigate. He said they found Basam Musalemeh naked, while Nawal wore a flimsy nightdress.
Their father was arrested, although it was not clear if he was detained for keeping his children locked up or because of his suspected loyalty to militant group Hamas.
Haifaa Mansour has been on the frontline of tackling taboo issues in Saudi Arabia.
It is tough to be a filmmaker in Saudi Arabia where many conservative Muslims shun movies as sinful. To be a female director is an even greater challenge.
Mansour attributes her strength of character to being one of a dozen children, and daughter of Abdul Rahman Al-Mansour, the the famous Saudi poet. She was the television host of More Than a Woman on the popular Lebanese channel, LBC, where she tackled sensitive issues and problems that affected Arab women.
For a Saudi to openly discuss topics such as the participation of women in politics, homosexuality, and mistreatment of women in the Saudi courts, was pushing the boundaries of debate well beyond what people in the region were used to.
Mansour has always been driven to taking on these issues as a filmmaker, a profession that was alien to most Saudis, especially as the kingdom does not have movie theatres and where many staunch conservatives shun bringing taboo subjects into the open.
The young movie director stirred up controversy with her films such as Women Without Shadows, Who? and The Bitter Journey.
Mansour raised even more eyebrows when she married an American diplomat in May 2007.
Even as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia looks to liberalise and modernise, Haifaa Mansour is always one step ahead in breaking new ground.
Local BBC News item: A man has been arrested for theft in Preston Train Station (NW England). He crept onto an empty train this morning and cooked himself breakfast in the Buffet Car.
Perhaps he´s the Fat Controller Libra Lady was asking about last week
Seven Egyptian women talk about their experience of sexual harassment on the streets of Cairo. It is an increasingly common problem, with a recent survey suggesting more than four out of five women have been sexually harassed, while nearly two-thirds of men admitted assaulting women.
Have you seen the pictures of the women who are talking ?
Are all of them not wearing hijab,or some wear and some dont ?
What this got to do with what they wear ?!
İ didnt say Egypt is Heaven,women get harassed at USA,UK,France,Germany,Egypt...ect,would this imply they are not free to wear whatever they want ?
Or do you suggest they get harassed there also for what they wear ?!
The harassement those women meant is not just the sexual gestures,but also the strange men attempts to talk with them ,to get their attention so they pick them up ´as that woman expression´
Yes I did. That is why I was so surprised. Because I recall you saying you are free to wear what you want, and I think it was Saskia, saying she was being harrassed, you said that harrassment wasnt really common. But apparantly it is.
Anyway you are right when it comes to clothing, it really doesnt change a thing. I forgot about that when I made that comment Just, you´re ideas on harrassment in Egypt came to my mind.
And you seemed pretty offended with all your ´?!´, though I didnt mean it that much of an attack as you responded it too
And though the Netherlands wasnt in your list, I´ve never been harrassed my entire life in the Netherlands. But I have been in Turkey.
I´ve been to quite a few European cities including Istanbul and never had a problem, except in Rome. My teenage daughter and I were walking through a crowded market place and three young "Rocco" look-i-likies passed us. They never made eye contact but as they passed the nearest one put his hand straight up my leg and felt my bottom!! What a cheek!! (pardon the pun). My daughter also got a few gestures aimed at her from time to time.
Yes I did. That is why I was so surprised. Because I recall you saying you are free to wear what you want, and I think it was Saskia, saying she was being harrassed, you said that harrassment wasnt really common. But apparantly it is.
Anyway you are right when it comes to clothing, it really doesnt change a thing. I forgot about that when I made that comment Just, you´re ideas on harrassment in Egypt came to my mind.
And you seemed pretty offended with all your ´?!´, though I didnt mean it that much of an attack as you responded it too
And though the Netherlands wasnt in your list, I´ve never been harrassed my entire life in the Netherlands. But I have been in Turkey.
Well,i also remember Saskia´s comments,she said they tried to touch her as i remember.
İ wear a hijab,and i also can say i havent been harrassed that way in Egypt,my cousin for example doesnt wear hijab and also she hasnt been harrassed this way in Egypt.
Those women,some of them wear hijab,and some dont,and they said they have been harrassed.
So would this say,they have been harrassed because of what they wear,and we ´me and my cousin weren´t because of what we are wearing ?!
Actually,i dont quite understand what you mean exactly by harassment?!
İ mean when you are walking in the street and a man calls you ´hey you pretty !´ is that harassment ?
Or when they try to get close to you is it harassment ?
We have the first one,hijab or no hijab,all same,but the second one,i wouldnt say that we face/see/hear about normally,of course its also there but not common,and sure not because what you wear !
İm not offended D_K,not the way you think anyway,im sorry if you got that feeling,my fault
İts just seems that Egypt news is all what catch ZZ eye´s or İslam of course.
If you and a few friends used the media to make your point, that you aren´t harrassed, perhaps people would believe you more . But I somehow don´t think ZZ would find it quite so newsworthy .
You are right, it wouldn´t be newsworthy, just simply because not harassing and respecting women is something very normal and there would be nothing to blow the trumpet about.
As for Canli, she would offer her heart taken out in order to protect her country´s image or protect her religion. It is called patriotism worshipped in many countries including Turkey. So, statements of people like Canli is not trustworthy.
Quoting peacetrain
Dear Canlı,
If you and a few friends used the media to make your point, that you aren´t harrassed, perhaps people would believe you more . But I somehow don´t think ZZ would find it quite so newsworthy .
It seems like Allah was wrong about veiling poor women. Veils don´t protect women.
Quoting CANLI
Have you read the article D_K ?
Have you seen the pictures of the women who are talking ?
Are all of them not wearing hijab,or some wear and some dont ?
What this got to do with what they wear ?!
İ didnt say Egypt is Heaven,women get harassed at USA,UK,France,Germany,Egypt...ect,would this imply they are not free to wear whatever they want ?
Or do you suggest they get harassed there also for what they wear ?!
The harassement those women meant is not just the sexual gestures,but also the strange men attempts to talk with them ,to get their attention so they pick them up ´as that woman expression´
You are right, it wouldn´t be newsworthy, just simply because not harassing and respecting women is something very normal and there would be nothing to blow the trumpet about.
As for Canli, she would offer her heart taken out in order to protect her country´s image or protect her religion. It is called patriotism worshipped in many countries including Turkey. So, statements of people like Canli is not trustworthy.
Well I´m quite sure there are many normal Egyptians.
As for Canlı. I don´t believe she would give false information about her personal experiences.
And I suppose the newsarticles I post here about opressed/mutulated/tortured/murdered women and teenage girls for the HONOR aren´t newsworthy to read for you, Peace Train. Such news don´t catch your eyes and ears, you just ignore and make yourself believe that such reports are lies all made up for to sell and make money?
Quoting peacetrain
Well I´m quite sure there are many normal Egyptians.
As for Canlı. I don´t believe she would give false information about her personal experiences.
And I suppose the newsarticles I post here about opressed/mutulated/tortured/murdered women and teenage girls for the HONOR aren´t newsworthy to read for you, Peace Train. Such news don´t catch your eyes and ears, you just ignore and make yourself believe that such reports are lies all made up for to sell and make money?
Hey ZZ you can assume anything you wish about me.
I commented on your charge that Canlı´s account was untrustworthy. You managed to squeeze a great deal of meaning out of that. Well done!
I think you have a problem here with many users/members I am reading some posts and think that you have a serious mental problem. You attacked me from the beginning even though I had said nothing bad to you.
Quoting peacetrain
Hey ZZ you can assume anything you wish about me.
I commented on your charge that Canlı´s account was untrustworthy. You managed to squeeze a great deal of meaning out of that. Well done!
I think you have a problem here with many users/members I am reading some posts and think that you have a serious mental problem. You attacked me from the beginning even though I had said nothing bad to you.
Oh ZZ you blew my cover
btw please can you enlighten me about the "attack" ? My mental state has affected my memory
Is it just me LIR or is Russel Brand a Cupid look-i-likie ?
I´d love to comment but it is totally impossible for me to open youtube links when they are posted like this - but I agree about the lookie-likie thing!
I´d love to comment but it is totally impossible for me to open youtube links when they are posted like this - but I agree about the lookie-likie thing!
Why not? Are you in China? Because in Turkey the ban is removed as far as I know.
If you and a few friends used the media to make your point, that you aren´t harrassed, perhaps people would believe you more . But I somehow don´t think ZZ would find it quite so newsworthy .
Dear PT,
İf not for D_K question,i would NOT have replied to ZZ´s post
statements of people like Canli is not trustworthy.
Well,thank you!
But,i wonder what is your definitions about the ´attack´ thing ?!
These were your words to me,and those are yours to PT ,
Quoting zhang ziyi
I think you have a problem here with many users/members I am reading some posts and think that you have a serious mental problem. You attacked me from the beginning even though I had said nothing bad to you.
Why not? Are you in China? Because in Turkey the ban is removed as far as I know.
I can´t get youtube except through ww.ktunnel.com and if the link is not produced in full I can´t copy/paste it to k.tunnel. OK - is it just me - can someone else in Turkey tell me if they are able to get youtube please?
This is an amazing story of Voltec the bear that was adopted and looked after by men in the Polish army who were fighting in WWII. I saw this story on TV last night, as the town in Scotland were the troup and the bear were billeted to want to build a memorial to him. The bear was raised by these men and did everything they did, worked, drank beer, smoked and slept in the same tents.
When they came to Scotland the bear then lived in the zoo, becoming a massive attraction and he lived until 1963.
Thanks for your well wishes!! We are leaving this afternoon!
I don´t know how you do it. I was evacuated once because the river I live near was reaching it´s banks......once was enough for me!! I hope everything is ok. Stay safe!!
I am not siding with the Russians. I lived through this, Mr. Longinotti:
As Soviet military units overtook columns of German civilian refugees fleeing to the west, they behaved in a way which has not been seen in Europe since the Mongol invasions of the Middle Ages. Often the men, most of them farmers or Germans who had been engaged in other essential occupations and thus exempted from military service, were simply murdered on the spot. The women were, almost without exception, gang-raped. This was the fate of girls as young as eight years old and old women in their eighties, as well as women in the advanced stages of pregnancy. Women who resisted rape had their throats cut or were shot. Very often women were murdered after being gang-raped. Many women and girls were raped so often and so brutally that they died from this abuse alone.
Sometimes Soviet tank columns simply rolled right over the fleeing refugees, grinding them into the mud with their tank treads. When Soviet Army units occupied East Prussian villages, they engaged in orgies of torture, rape, and murder so bestial that they cannot be described fully on this program.
The Bombing ofDresden by the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and United States Army Air Force (USAAF) between 13 February and 15 February1945, 12 weeks before the surrender of the Armed Forces (Wehrmacht) of Nazi Germany, remains one of the most controversial Allied actions of the Second World War. The raids saw 1,300 heavy bombers drop over 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices in four raids, destroying 13 square miles (34 km2) of the city, the baroque capital of the German state of Saxony, and causing a firestorm that consumed the city centre Estimates of civilian casualties vary greatly, but recent publications place the figure between 24,000 and 40,000.
I did that, in Balıklı Kaplıca near Sivas. It was fun! The tiny ones only tickled a little, the bigger ones - up to 20 cm - hit my legs so hard that a mole started bleeding (which attracted more fish). But it did not hurt at all. I was there in June 2007 with a travel mate from New Zealand. We were the only tourists, all other visitors were Turkish women. Nice recommendable experience.
I did that, in Balıklı Kaplıca near Sivas. It was fun! The tiny ones only tickled a little, the bigger ones - up to 20 cm - hit my legs so hard that a mole started bleeding (which attracted more fish). But it did not hurt at all. I was there in June 2007 with a travel mate from New Zealand. We were the only tourists, all other visitors were Turkish women. Nice recommendable experience.
The thought of blood alone makes my knees feel weak :-S How can that be recommendable
EDUCATION ALARM IN ARAB WORLD, 95 MILLION ILLITERATE PEOPLE
(By Cristiana Missori) (ANSAmed) - ROME, SEPTEMBER 8 - With 95 million illiterate people, of whom 75 million aged between 15 and 45, the Arab world confirms itself on the first place in the global ranking of the countries whose citizens do not know either to read or write. These are the merciless data presented in Rome this morning during the conference titled "Literacy in the Mediterranean", organised at the Chamber of Deputies as part of the celebrations for the International Literacy Day, called by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. "One out of three citizens is illiterate", Arab League Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (ALESCO) director Mongi Bousnia reminded. This is double the world average (16%). Women are the most affected by the phenomenon, actually 46.5% do not know either to read or write. And also most of those who live in the villages and in the most depressed areas of the Arab world have never had a chance to sit at the school desks. The main causes for that phenomenon," Bousnia pointed out, "are surely the excessive birth rate", as the close correlation between exponential demographic growth and the rise of illiteracy rate (71%) shows in the five most populated states which are part of the 28 countries part of ALESCO. It is not only the demographic boom but also the abject poverty which afflicts these people, as well as the disinterest of the Arab governments which have ignored the literacy issue too long. "In the past thirty years we made many efforts to reduce the rate of the people without education, but the road to go is still very long," Bousnia said. In relative terms, the data speak of a constant drop. In 1970 the rate of illiterate adults in the Arab states was 75%, in 1990 it was 48.7%, in 2000 it was 39.9%, while in 2007 the average of illiterate people in this area of the world is around 30%. "Nevertheless, in absolute terms, the number of illiterate Arab citizens is growing at a skyrocketing speed," Bousnia said. From 50 million illiterate in 1970, there were 60 million in 1990s, to the current 95.5 million out of the 335 million citizens of those states. There have been many common efforts - also of the economic type . taken since the 1960s by the Arab governments, but the road is yet to be climbed. "Eradicate illiteracy is a way to increase security in the Mediterranean area," the ALESCO director said. Here, he believes, the role of the woman is fundamental for fighting against the mentality of hatred and violence which lies on the basis of terrorism. However, investment in literacy programmes is needed. "Tunisian President Ben Ali has launched an appeal to the rich oil-producing countries so that their governments allocate one dollar per each barrel of crude in projects to fight illiteracy in the Arab states," Bousnia said. Not only the institutions, but also the Arab civil society, with its non-governmental associations and organisations, can give its contribution. It is thanks to the NGOs that the poor people in Egypt come close to education, Raafat Abdel Baki, delegate of the Egyptian Education Ministry, explained during the day of study organised by the National Union to Fight Illiteracy, by the Observatory of the Mediterranean and the University of Castel Sant´Angelo. With 17 million illiterates, Egypt is the Arab state with the highest number of illiterate people. (ANSAmed).
I did that, in Balıklı Kaplıca near Sivas. It was fun! The tiny ones only tickled a little, the bigger ones - up to 20 cm - hit my legs so hard that a mole started bleeding (which attracted more fish). But it did not hurt at all. I was there in June 2007 with a travel mate from New Zealand. We were the only tourists, all other visitors were Turkish women. Nice recommendable experience.
Here is a video in English (there are also Turkish, French and German video´s) about this center:
This interesting news item was covered on the BBC Breakfast News this morning. It seems that the £1 notes are being sold on Ebay as collectors´ items, selling for asmuch as £31 for 2 (latest bid). Some people are simply buying the notes as a souvenir. It seems the notes aren´t being spent as intended
Seems a novelty idea but it has actually been done for serious reasons.
"TOWN THAT GAVE ITSELF A LICENCE TO PRINT MONEY
Lewes in East Sussex hopes to safeguard its traditions by issuing a local currency"
This interesting news item was covered on the BBC Breakfast News this morning. It seems that the £1 notes are being sold on Ebay as collectors´ items, selling for asmuch as £31 for 2 (latest bid). Some people are simply buying the notes as a souvenir. It seems the notes aren´t being spent as intended
Seems a novelty idea but it has actually been done for serious reasons.
"TOWN THAT GAVE ITSELF A LICENCE TO PRINT MONEY
Lewes in East Sussex hopes to safeguard its traditions by issuing a local currency"
A Chinese researcher takes care of the newly born panda cubs at the panda breeding center in Chengdu in southwest China´s Sichuan province Monday September 8th 2008. The center now has 82 pandas, including 15 cubs born this year, the highest number in the center´s history.
A Chinese researcher takes care of the newly born panda cubs at the panda breeding center in Chengdu in southwest China´s Sichuan province Monday September 8th 2008. The center now has 82 pandas, including 15 cubs born this year, the highest number in the center´s history.
breast feeding?
A lovely article and the pandas are cute.
However, I can´t help wondering if the quality of care in China´s orphanages is as dedicated.
I saw this exhibition in Munich a couple of years ago - it was very impressive! However, there were some people who passed out while watching it... so if you´re a sensitive type, be careful before going to see it.
He Pingping (smallest man) and Svetlana Pankratova (longest legs in the world pose together in Trafalgar Square. He Pingping 20 is the worlds smallest man and is 74.61 cm high and comes from Mongolia as Svetlana legs are 132cm and she comes from Russia. They both pose for the Guinness world records.
I have been to Southern Spain, the beautiful Andalucia: Granada, Sevilla and Cordoba with its ancient Moorish Heritage. Today I read this in the Saudi Aramco magazine about Washington Irving:
An Eaglemouth tortoise is caught by local fishermen after it was spotted in a fish pond the tortoise is 80 centimeters long and weighs over 11 kilograms It has six pairs of spikes on its shell and has been estimated to be over 500 years old the tortoise was caught in Taizhou China
A group of Dutch nudists called off a special church service to be held in a nudist park after receiving threats, a spokesman for the group said Friday.
In June, the Christian Gan Eden nudists held their first church service at the Flevo-Natuur nudist park in Zeewolde in the eastern Netherlands and planned to hold a second service.
However, the group was hit by numerous emails and phone calls, many of them threatening, the Gan Eden spokesman said. The church service was called off and the group shut its website down.
´I do not understand the fuss,´ the spokesman said. ´We are just a group of Christians who want to have our own church service.´
If you want to get everything all at once, this is usually what happens...
Everything starts with individualism; the more of it the better it gets; that a person can do whatever he/she wants unless he/she directly harms others becomes the norm at the expense of so many indirect harms potentially possible like in the case of regulations governing the use of narcotics in Holland.
People from the same country with swollen egos about what they are authorized to do, see nothing wrong in belittling Muslims with cartoons depicting their prophet as a terrorist. In my opinion this and many other such acts are merely acts of provocation designed to create friction between cultures and it serves the further alienation of cultures and belief systems from one another.
Nudists wishing to hold their own religious community and to maintain their church services is one such example. Nudity by its very nature is an essential disregard of established cultural norms and it is an act of defiance. The reasoning works like this, we prefer to be nude because being nude is being more natural hence being close to God in other words we are entitled to forming our own church too. We believe in the virtues of nudity and we do not care how others regard us. We would like to have the best of both worlds.
One would say, hey come on, cut the dramatics and wear those bloody garments to the church just on Sundays.
People from the same country with swollen egos about what they are authorized to do, see nothing wrong in belittling Muslims with cartoons depicting their prophet as a terrorist.
Indeed funny, when actually he was one. He organized about 70 military actions slaughtering villages after villages. The wars he started up are still carried out till today.
Well, I am sure you have had a deep impact on some 2 billion Muslims who regard that person as their pioneer. I guess they feel devastated now. What do you suggest us to get rid of this warlike race? Should we spit them in the face? Steal their oil? Establish multi-million dollar partnerships with them? We have enough radical politicians ruining peace around the world already...
A post of mine being modified without telling me because I dared to call a mod ´being shocked´. How pathetic that remarks like that are deleted. So much for freedom of speech. This site becomes intolerant more and more every day.
A post of mine being modified without telling me because I dared to call a mod ´being shocked´. How pathetic that remarks like that are deleted. So much for freedom of speech. This site becomes intolerant more and more every day.
I have deleted the picture because you asked me to, though I still find that you are overreacting. There was nothing wrong with that picture. When deleted I added a sarcastic comment saying something like ´picture deleted on request of a very shocked mod´. I did NOT delete that comment myself and now it is gone. If you mods and admins can´t modify than tlc is haunted.
I am surprised to hear that Mods cannot modify posts as I remember many times that when a post was removed, it was also removed from the "quoted" replies (which requires modifying the post)
A 71-year-old grandfather treated in a US hospital was informed that he was suffering abdominal pains because he was pregnant.
John Grady Pippen was given a bulletin, saying: "Based on your visit today, we know you are pregnant."
The staff at Curry General Hospital in Gold Beach, Oregon, gave the retired mechanic and logger the happy news this month, along with some pain pills. Hospital administrator William McMillan said an errant keystroke caused the hospital´s computer to spit out the wrong discharge instructions for the grandfather.
I think we need an update from reporter Lis....it´s been a long time. What´s the gossip on people?
With the current mods and all, I don´t think it will be very well received. hehehe...I don´t want to cause another riot by trying to be humorous. Pasta Forbid!!!
With the current mods and all, I don´t think it will be very well received. hehehe...I don´t want to cause another riot by trying to be humorous. Pasta Forbid!!!
Hey were still America, were not Russia yet! I think that´s what we need here, some humor..
With the current mods and all, I don´t think it will be very well received. hehehe...I don´t want to cause another riot by trying to be humorous. Pasta Forbid!!!
Muhahahhahahahahhhahahahahah!
Go ahead, nothing is forbidden (just don´t joke about the PKK ).
Sharon Stone is now likely to have her son taken away from her, because of her bizarre behaviour in bringing him up. In trying to resolve a smelly feet problem, she has resorted to have given the boy, or rather taking him to have botox injections in his feet. It is also reported that for the first four years of his life, he had a 24 hour nanny to bring him up and she had little inivolvement due to her "committments".
Why are these women have chilren or are allowed to adopt children, as she has, if they are not prepared to raise them. (This child mentioned above is her own, but she does have adopted children). Do they not realise that they are not puppies or kittens that are given away when they are weaned?
After being spotted by Aenigma while strolling on the beaches of iow
Handsom - I repeat that was NOT a nudist beach (you are supposed to wear clothes) and you were not just strolling you were running with all your hair blowing in the wind
(OMG - I just realised that sounds as if I think that´s you in the picture!! )
It was not? I thought this was a picture of a little mishap he had while being chased by one of the nationalists from this site for starting so many topics about P**.....
This morning while I was getting ready for work, I saw my son was drawing a picture, when he was done he said--"mom, look"............it was a turkish flag .
Prostitutes in the Dutch city of Eindhoven are to be awarded "credits" in return for good behaviour under a new scheme to encourage them to abandon the oldest profession.
The prostitutes will receive so-called "street miles" that they can use to acquire free designer clothes or furniture, provided they take up an offer by the city council to take steps leading to a career change and a safer lifestyle.
"We needed to come up with incentives that these women might latch on to," said Veronique Beurskens of Eindhoven council, who is leading a drive to rid the city of street prostitution.
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The plan is also receiving a lukewarm welcome among some prostitutes.
"This is fine if they actually want to move on to something else but some might not want to," said Metje Blaak from Red Thread, the Dutch Prostitutes´ Union. "At the end of the day, this is a step towards making street prostitution illegal, and what will happen to the women then?"
She added that prostitutes do not easily make the switch to a normal nine-to-five job. "They often miss the adrenaline rush. They need work where they feel they are really achieving something."
It is quite interesting (abhorrent rather) to me that whenever the subject of prostitution is discussed, only the prostitutes are being talked about, as if they existed in vacuum and bore the whole responsibility for the existence of their profession. AS ALWAYS, the dominant group is unnoticed... and completely escapes any scrutiny! Even though it is what the johns do that´s immoral and disgusting!
A novel about the Prophet Muhammad´s child bride has been published in the US ahead of schedule after the office of the British publisher was attacked.
Beaufort Books is publishing The Jewel of Medina by Sherry Jones in the US after Random House dropped it amid fears it could incite violence.
Three men were charged in the UK over a fire at offices of British publisher Gibson Square Books last month.
The novel follows the life of A´isha from six until the Prophet´s death.
Beaufort Books said it was publishing the novel ahead of schedule so it could be assessed on its merits as literature rather than the potential offence it could cause to Muslims.
A jury at the city´s Crown Court has been told six pieces of cooked human flesh were found on a chopping board at 36-year-old Mr Morley´s flat.
Morley, who worked as a chef, walked into a nearby takeaway and told staff he had killed someone, Leeds Crown Court was told.
The prosecution alleges the two men had some kind of sexual relationship and engaged in sexual activity before the murder took place. Morley then cut Mr Oldfield´s throat and stabbed him several times, the court heard.
The court heard Morley later claimed: "It´s this lad, he tried to rape me so I stopped him."
When asked how he stopped him, the jury was told he answered: "I´m a chef, how do you think I stopped him?"
The prosecution said Morley was at least guilty of manslaughter but said the issue in the trial would be over provocation or abnormality of the mind.
The trial continues.
ooooh just a glass of chianti and that would b a perfect date mwahaha
I was a long time ago...but he somehow managed to get on top of me and won´t let me get back on top!
I managed to get on top of him once, but it was a struggle Now like you I am not sure where I stand on the "on top of whom" "whose on top of me" issues Pales the current economic crisis into insignificance....................
I managed to get on top of him once, but it was a struggle Now like you I am not sure where I stand on the "on top of whom" "whose on top of me" issues Pales the current economic crisis into insignificance....................
The segment of the "6 more deaths" thread where the mods enter the discussion....starting by criticising everyone for insults and going off topic (DK at one point threatening to lock the thread) ....then proceeding to insult and go seriously off topic......
a software "beautification engine" that can alter the facial geometry of people in photos and, in theory, make them look more attractive.
Developed by researchers in Israel (including a guy who now works at Microsoft), it uses algorithms based on 243 measurements between facial features and tries to determine the ideal set of distances.
The formula was developed by surveying 68 men and women in Israel and Germany who were shown photos of white men and women, and asked to pick the most attractive faces. Consequently, the process only works on Caucasian faces so far.
a software "beautification engine" that can alter the facial geometry of people in photos and, in theory, make them look more attractive.
Developed by researchers in Israel (including a guy who now works at Microsoft), it uses algorithms based on 243 measurements between facial features and tries to determine the ideal set of distances.
The formula was developed by surveying 68 men and women in Israel and Germany who were shown photos of white men and women, and asked to pick the most attractive faces. Consequently, the process only works on Caucasian faces so far.
Plácido Domingo has certainly stirred things up.Last Saturday night,the man many hail as the world’s greatest living tenor staged the “Concert of 1000 Columns” at the great Maya site of Chichén Itzá in Mexico.Domingo, for those of you who are not opera fans, was born in Spain but grew up in Mexico,where he sang in a rock and roll band, played the piano for a ballet company, and made his stage debut in the late 1950s.Since then, Domingo has seldom looked back, performing in the world’s premier opera houses to rave reviews, recording more than 100 albums, starring in numerous opera films, and even playing a cameo part in The Simpsons.
By all accounts, audience members at the “Concert of 1000 Columns,” who forked out as much as $900 for a ticket, lapped up Domingo’s performance.The great tenor reportedly turned on the charm, crooning a love song in Mayan and wooing devoted fans with several popular mariachi tunes.
But the performance left many Mexican archaeologists fuming.Mexican law, they pointed out, requires that Maya ruins be preserved to educate Mexicans about the ancient past:Domingo’s concert did nothing to illuminate Maya culture.Moreover, archaeologists worried that the construction of concert scaffolding would harm Chichén Itzá’s fragile stonework.In an effort at damage control, the Yucatan state government issued public assurances that all due precautions were taken to protect the site during the performance.
When I first read about the concert, I asked myself why Domingo was so keen to perform at Chichén Itzá.It’s difficult to believe that the site’s acoustics could rival those of his customary venues. So Chichén Itzá’s great appeal was clearly to provide a spectacular backdrop for the tenor—something that would convince fans to shell out big bucks for tickets and would attract major television interest.Can a “Live at the Concert of 1000 Columns” special or DVD be far off?
Domingo is not the only performer, however, who has been selling tickets and raking in the cash at a UNESCO World Heritage site.In 2004, Alicia Keyes, Cyndi Lauper and Boyz II Men performed a major concert at The Great Wall of China, claiming that the main message was “to promote peace.” Earlier on, both Sting and Pink Floyd played dates at the pyramids in Giza. And who can forget the performances of Verdi’s opera, Aida, at Giza in the 1990s? In addition to making money, they were staged to calm the fear of tourists after Islamic terrorists murdered 58 foreigners at Luxor.“Nothing can prove that this country is safe and stable better than a huge show like “Aida,” performed year after year in front of the most important tourist site in the world,” said Nazmi Amin,a top official of Egypt’s Tourist Authority, in an interview with the New York Times.
The truth is that we use our most important archaeological sites today for all sorts of reasons.But I wonder if it isn’t time for a little soul-searching about how we treat these cultural monuments.I personally believe the Mexican government had it right the first time.These sites are not backdrops or film sets, they are not concert halls or tourist ads, and they certainly aren’t profit centers.They are our fragile link with ancient civilizations.They deserve better.
Date posted: August 14, 2008 By Ali Waked A Palestinian resident of Ras KarKar, a West Bank village located near Modiin, claimed Wednesday that a Jewish settler tied his 17-year-old son to an All-Terrain Vehicle (ATV) and dragged him through an olive grove.
According to Hafez Nupal, on Monday at around 6 pm he and his son were working in their fields when two settlers riding an ATV approached. "One of them yelled ´what are you doing on this land? God gave us this land and no Arab dog will set foot on it´," he recounted.
"When the argument began to heat up, one of the settlers pulled out a gun and the other beat me up. I was able to fight back a little, but then the other settler began to beat me up as well."
Nupal said the settlers, residents of the illegal outpost of Zait Raanan, proceeded to throw him to the ground, tie his hands and legs together and then tie his son to the ATV, adding that another Palestinian fled the scene and informed the Ras Karkar council, which reported the incident to the IDF´s Coordination and Liaison Office in Beit-El.
Nupal said that at this point another settler arrived and led him, his son and another 10-year-old Palestinian at gunpoint to the illegal outpost. There, according to Nupal, the settlers physically assaulted the boy and his teenage son, who was evacuated to a Ramallah hospital for treatment.
Ras-Karkar council member Ayad Masloum told Ynet that the army informed him that the three settlers had been detained after approaching an IDF firing range, but were released later that evening.
Sources in the defense establishment said they were unfamiliar with the incident.
Many farmers in the Gaza Strip are being denied access to their land by Israeli occupation forces. An arbitrary ´buffer zone´ is being imposed hundreds of metres deep long the Green Line. Agricultural land has been destroyed in these areas and massive numbers of olive and fruit trees have been bulldozed, devastating the livelihoods of entire farming communities. According to the PCHR, approximately 31.503 dunums/31.5 million square metres of land in the Gaza Strip, most of it agricultural, has been razed by the Israelis. This represents at least 10% of the total arable land base of the Gaza Strip. This statistic was published in 2005 but much more destruction has been carried out since. The Al Mezan Centre for Human Rights quoted 31,845,815 square metres of agricultural land levelled by the end of 2007. This does not include lands confiscated more than once; the area confiscated being nearly 10 million square metres.
When I heard this being discussed on TV yesterday morning I felt physically sick. But the actions of a group of people, gathered at a multi story car park, last weekend, should leave them with severly battered consciences.
Wonder whey they were doing? They had gathered to watch events unfolding over a period of three hours. A young man, standing at the top on the parapit was threatening to jump. Police were trying to talk him down. So what do you think the crowd did? The gouded him to jump, encouraging him and talking mobile phone videos and photos of him when he did jump.
It sickens me to think I now live in a society that act in such a way. You cannot call these people human.
When I heard this being discussed on TV yesterday morning I felt physically sick. But the actions of a group of people, gathered at a multi story car park, last weekend, should leave them with severly battered consciences.
Wonder whey they were doing? They had gathered to watch events unfolding over a period of three hours. A young man, standing at the top on the parapit was threatening to jump. Police were trying to talk him down. So what do you think the crowd did? The gouded him to jump, encouraging him and talking mobile phone videos and photos of him when he did jump.
It sickens me to think I now live in a society that act in such a way. You cannot call these people human.
Words fail me - it´s a great shame they can´t charge the entire crowd with manslaughter - its like something out of the middle ages
Wonder whey they were doing? They had gathered to watch events unfolding over a period of three hours. A young man, standing at the top on the parapit was threatening to jump. Police were trying to talk him down. So what do you think the crowd did? The gouded him to jump, encouraging him and talking mobile phone videos and photos of him when he did jump.
Wow... this is unbelievable.... shocking. I firmly believe that it´s teh culture of video games and violent movies that makes these people excited by something like this.
The Vegetarian festival takes place during late September / early October each year for nine days and is intended to bring good luck to the individual as well as the community for the next year. Each of the main temples in the town are given the honor of letting the procession begin at their location. The Ma Song are devotees who are believed to possess supernatural powers and use self torture such as body piercing, walking on fire, and exposure to fireworks to inflict pain upon themselves in order to protect the community from future suffering.
Phuket Veg Fest
ps..I am still trying to figure out where the vegetables come into equation..
The Vegetarian festival takes place during late September / early October each year for nine days and is intended to bring good luck to the individual as well as the community for the next year. Each of the main temples in the town are given the honor of letting the procession begin at their location. The Ma Song are devotees who are believed to possess supernatural powers and use self torture such as body piercing, walking on fire, and exposure to fireworks to inflict pain upon themselves in order to protect the community from future suffering.
Phuket Veg Fest
ps..I am still trying to figure out where the vegetables come into equation..
Vegetarians stabbing themselves with long object....am I supposed to see a connection???
Passenger buses that travel from Turkey to Greece are more often than not vessels for a strange cultural and historical amalgam of the tumultuous history between the neighboring countries. Aboard a bus headed from Istanbul´s main bus terminal to Thessalonica, I sat waiting expectantly for the bus to take off so I could doze off until passport control at the Turkish-Greek border. I was headed for a weekend trip to Alexandroupolis – Dedeaðaç in Turkish – the first major Greek city after the border.
Prejudice creeps in when you don´t expect it, when you aren´t paying attention.
Conspiracy theorists still believe the world is flat!!!
(I wonder if that includes some of our dear Turkish members who love a conspiracy )
On 24 December 1968, the crew of the Apollo 8 mission took a photo now known as Earthrise. To many, this beautiful blue sphere viewed from the moon´s orbit is a perfect visual summary of why it is right to strive to go into space.
Not to everybody though. There are people who say they think this image is fake - part of a worldwide conspiracy by space agencies, governments and scientists.
are you saying that no men complimented to you such as ´how beautiful, how lovely, how sexy your tummy botton is´?
We refer to them as belly buttons.. As far as your question, I have an inny so I don´t receive too many compliments from men that my "tummy button" is beautiful. Maybe if I got my tummy button pierced I would get more compliments.
The video how the PKK suicide bomber woman caught by the turkish police in Istanbul. The police had been following her for days. The video shows the woman while walking so calmly in the Ãstanbul streets sometimes in a turban, sometimes without. She was in the preparation of carrying out her suicide bomb attack around the police station in Aksaray. Thanks to the police´s great operation, she was caught. Congragulations to the couragous police.
´Bomber´ Harris or ´Butcher´ Harris? Keith Lowe, author of Inferno, an exemplary analysis of the week-long bombing of Hamburg which killed more than 40,000 in 1943, masterminded by Air Chief Marshall Arthur Harris, comes no closer to settling the argument of whether he was hero or villain. Harris´s detractors will argue that he had no notion of the hell he visited on the civilian population of Germany, if, indeed, he actually cared. His defenders will claim that cowing a civilian population was as important as destroying war factories responsible for all methods of destruction, whether shells or U-boats, as was the case in Hamburg.
While the bombing of Dresden in 1945 still - and rightly - occasions debate on the necessity or otherwise of total war, the bombing of Hamburg two years earlier is of equal importance, if less discussed. It is to Lowe´s credit that he uses material both from members of the RAF and the American air force and those on the receiving end of one of the Second Word War´s most determined aerial bombardments to present a picture of atrocious human suffering, without seeking to be judgmental.
The most poignant stories come in asides. A small boy, removed from Hamburg when the rest of his family has died, is stopped by an official in the town to which he has been exiled and is asked what is in his two bags: one contains the remains of his pet rabbit, the other the reduced and charred remains of his sister. Other survivors tell of victims of the firestorm becoming human torches as they sought to escape the blistering heat.
Nothing quite prepares you for the photographs of line after line of victims, neatly arrayed, or of block after block of houses, only their outer walls standing, where all inside had perished. As the Harris debate rumbles on, the events of 1943 still resonate with present-day Hamburgers.
ECO Offer Frog Leg Pizza Animal rights campaigners are furious with a London pizza restaurant that has launched the UK s first frogs legs pizza . Called The Hopper it costs £17.95 and comes with a traditional tomato and mozzarella base capers fresh dill and thyme with a scoop of anchovy sorbet which melts into the pizza as the diner nibbles around each leg. The pizzas creator described it as refined but critics have called barbaric and is the brainchild of Sami Wasif owner of the ECO firm of pizza restaurants which has branches in Chiswick and Clapham in London.
Why are animal rights campaigners furious about it? Do frogs have more rights than some other animals that are eaten in pizza?
Yes I wondered the same. I wondered if the way the frogs legs are acquired maybe has something to do with it.. since frogs (or snails for that matter) are a regular eaten thing in many restaurants all over the world. I´ve never heard of it on pizza though.
I wondered if the way the frogs legs are acquired maybe has something to do with it..
It has not been explained in the article, but it might be. I have seen that they usually break the legs with one hand movement while the frog is still alive, however in the article it sounds as if they are furious just because of the fact that they are used on pizza.
I once saw a documentary which showed a production line of leg removal from live frogs. Workers sat on a chair with a vertical blade fixed in front of them. They took each live frog and dragged it down the blade, thus relieving it of its legs . The top half of the frogs were simply tossed away without a second thought. The frogs were still alive, poor things.
In that case I understand. Why don´t they do it after they are dead? Or is it like the ýstakoz who are cooked alive just because then they have a brighter (not greyish) color
In that case I understand. Why don´t they do it after they are dead? Or is it like the ýstakoz who are cooked alive just because then they have a brighter (not greyish) color
You might be right but how long do they need to wait until they are dead? how do you kill them anyway? by not feeding them?
It reminded me my mother..She could dont clean the fish for cooking..She would wait for 5 or 6 hours..
I´ve got a long list of real good reasons For all the things I´ve done I´ve got a picture in the back of my mind Of what I´ve lost and what I´ve won I´ve survived every situation Knowing when to freeze and when to run And regret is just a memory written on my brow And there´s nothing I can do about it now.
Jewish settlers attacked several peace activists during the annual harvest in Hebron [Reuters]
Jewish settlers have been caught on camera punching and kicking two news photographers and a British woman who was helping Palestinians pick olives near a West Bank town.
The Israeli police responded to the situation on Saturday by stopping the harvest.
The scuffle near the town of Hebron was the latest in a series of incidents blamed on settlers trying to disrupt the annual harvest which provides a livelihood for many Palestinians.
The settlers claim the trees are on Israeli land and the harvest is illegal.
Human rights groups say that waterboarding amounts to torture [AFP]
The Bush administration endorsed the use of waterboarding against al-Qaeda suspects in secret memos to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Washington Post has reported.
The pair of classified memos, written in 2003 and 2004, were requested by George Tenet, former CIA chief, more than a year after secret interrogations got under way, the newspaper quoted administration and intelligence officials as saying.
The Post reported on Wednesday that the CIA required cover from the White House due to concerns of a possible backlash if details on harsh interrogation methods went public.
Wife who changed Facebook profile to ´single´ killed by hubby
Wayne Forrester, 34, told police he was devastated that his wife Emma, also 34, had changed her online profile to "single" days after he had moved out.
Wife who changed Facebook profile to ´single´ killed by hubby
Wayne Forrester, 34, told police he was devastated that his wife Emma, also 34, had changed her online profile to "single" days after he had moved out.
An article about the "Sex on the Beach" couple who were sentenced to 3 months imprisonment in Dubai, who actually didn´t have sex but were "kissing and cuddling".
My first thought was that they were very stupid to have done such a public thing in an Islamic country. Having sex in a public place is also banned in the UK! Even if they were just fooling around, you should respect the laws and customs of the country you visit.
However, the article reveals that 60% of tourists in Dubai are Saudi Arabians who go there to "let of steam". Alcohol, prostitutes and even gay bars exist (and thrive) in Dubai and are frequented by the Saudis. A Brit living in Dubai describes the weekends as "filled with drunk Saudi´s who go there to enjoy sex and alcohol".
Dubai needs to make up it´s mind. If it wants to continue to attract the wealthy tourists to it´s 7 star hotel tax free haven by relaxing its OWN moral codes, they can´t then patrol the beaches at night with torches searching for couples on sunbeds!!!
I took one of those religious Arabs to the terrace bar of a hotel at his request years ago. He ordered a whisky asking about the girls around evidently enjoying the atmosphere. So far so good. Then he began criticizing Ataturk for stealing Turkey from Islam... He even come up with a reason for the series of economic crises Turkey were going through in the 80´s. He thought Turkey was being punished by God for straying whereas his own country was being rewarded by God for strictly observing the rules of the Quran. These guys have a very well tailored set of double standards, double meanings, equivocal rules and a thick buffer of superstitions. If they were only that way themselves, no one would care but they also make life difficult for people who do not want to be like that.
What is even more saddening is that this is a welcome situation for the West one of the greatest projects of which is creating nice behavin´, soft Islamic governments in the region (proven by their current policies). The biggest fear for the West is to see someone whether he/she be a dictator or a democratic leader take the reins of oil production selfishly reaping the commercial benefits of this hot commodity. That would be the violation of the unwritten rule that states: Every major resource in the world can only be controlled by a Western country.
Now Saudis have every reason to demand approval from the West for beheading sinners by the sword in public squares, and for maintaining a medieval regime bolstered by Western technology showing up as skyscrapers, majestic artificial islands bought by petrodollars. Because they keep singing Fat Wallers´ famous song: Ain´t Misbehavin´.
To my untrained eye, it would seem there is more honesty and integrity in the Turkish muslims´, rather more human, attitude to their religion, than the double standards and secrecy of Islamic states.
Unfortunately, your comments about the evil "west" are also true
An article about the "Sex on the Beach" couple who were sentenced to 3 months imprisonment in Dubai, who actually didn´t have sex but were "kissing and cuddling".
My first thought was that they were very stupid to have done such a public thing in an Islamic country. Having sex in a public place is also banned in the UK! Even if they were just fooling around, you should respect the laws and customs of the country you visit.
However, the article reveals that 60% of tourists in Dubai are Saudi Arabians who go there to "let of steam". Alcohol, prostitutes and even gay bars exist (and thrive) in Dubai and are frequented by the Saudis. A Brit living in Dubai describes the weekends as "filled with drunk Saudi´s who go there to enjoy sex and alcohol".
Dubai needs to make up it´s mind. If it wants to continue to attract the wealthy tourists to it´s 7 star hotel tax free haven by relaxing its OWN moral codes, they can´t then patrol the beaches at night with torches searching for couples on sunbeds!!!
Reading the paper on my ill-fated journey this morning I came across this and I must admit, it made me smile. How the hell do you get 86 defendents into one court and expect to get a result!!
Part of the Act will outlaw anything which might be considered "extreme pornography". This means that a Westwood book of erotic photographs will become illegal as of 1 January 2009, and anyone caught in possession of the work could theoretically receive a three-year jail sentence.
Today, Westwood, above, will begin his protest against the Bill with the help of a "chain gang" of models and activists from the Consenting Adult Action Network (CAAN) in what promises to be a lively demonstration. The models will be "bound and gagged" and dragged through the streets of central London.
He along with the campaigning Group believe that sections 64-67 of the criminal act which will make the possession of extreme pornography a criminal offence mean that innocent people who like to divulge in acts such as consentual bondage etc could receive a prison sentence up to three years.
How can you call this regime as democracy if people can not "bound, gag etc" themselves?
Calling themselves the ´Red Squirrel Protection Partnership´ it is the mission of Lord Redesdale and his unit to kill all the Grey squirrels in the Northumberland area in order to protect the Native Red Squirrel.
grey squirrel stew:
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Duck Feeds Fish
A female mandarin duck feeds the fish with kernel in Humble Administrators Garden in Suzhou east Chinas Jiangsu province in China..
Calling themselves the ´Red Squirrel Protection Partnership´ it is the mission of Lord Redesdale and his unit to kill all the Grey squirrels in the Northumberland area in order to protect the Native Red Squirrel.
My home, the Isle of Wight, is the only place in the UK that has NO grey squirrels. The red squirrels are becoming a tourist attraction in themselves
Calling themselves the ´Red Squirrel Protection Partnership´ it is the mission of Lord Redesdale and his unit to kill all the Grey squirrels in the Northumberland area in order to protect the Native Red Squirrel.
Actually could you delete these photos please. I find them even more offensive than swearing
Bomber Harris, WW II, operation Gomorrah, Hamburg´s Inferno
Inferno: The Devastation of Hamburg 1943
by Keith Lowe
´Bomber´ Harris or ´Butcher´ Harris? Keith Lowe, author of Inferno, an exemplary analysis of the week-long bombing of Hamburg which killed more than 40,000 in 1943, masterminded by Air Chief Marshall Arthur Harris, comes no closer to settling the argument of whether he was hero or villain. Harris´s detractors will argue that he had no notion of the hell he visited on the civilian population of Germany, if, indeed, he actually cared. His defenders will claim that cowing a civilian population was as important as destroying war factories responsible for all methods of destruction, whether shells or U-boats, as was the case in Hamburg.
While the bombing of Dresden in 1945 still - and rightly - occasions debate on the necessity or otherwise of total war, the bombing of Hamburg two years earlier is of equal importance, if less discussed. It is to Lowe´s credit that he uses material both from members of the RAF and the American air force and those on the receiving end of one of the Second Word War´s most determined aerial bombardments to present a picture of atrocious human suffering, without seeking to be judgmental.
The most poignant stories come in asides. A small boy, removed from Hamburg when the rest of his family has died, is stopped by an official in the town to which he has been exiled and is asked what is in his two bags: one contains the remains of his pet rabbit, the other the reduced and charred remains of his sister. Other survivors tell of victims of the firestorm becoming human torches as they sought to escape the blistering heat.
Nothing quite prepares you for the photographs of line after line of victims, neatly arrayed, or of block after block of houses, only their outer walls standing, where all inside had perished. As the Harris debate rumbles on, the events of 1943 still resonate with present-day Hamburgers.
Ros - if you don´t mind me saying this article is very biased! Can I remind you that we were at war with Germany, and equal devastation was caused to London (and Coventry (among many). The town of Coventry was literally flattened.
In addition, German historians recently announced that the actual number of deaths from the bombings in Dresden was was 25,000 and NOT 250,000 which they claimed at the time. Because of this falsehood, the bombing of Dresden was condemned as a war crime after the war. In actual fact it was nothing compared to the deaths from bombings in the UK.
War is horrible, for both sides. My grandmother well remembers being machined gunned by German fighter planes whilst with her schoolfriends, walking to school and being told to lay flat on the ground until it was over.
I am not saying that those Allied bombings of German are not horrible. I just think that posting such an article, out of context, gives completely the wrong impression. Ask France, ask Poland, ask England, ask Holland, ask all the affected countries - they will all have similar stories.
All these new people here seemingly demanding to be in the new beginner groups. I wonder how many of them are actually trying to learn while waiting. And where did they all come from?
If the classes are limited, I hope preference will be given to those who want to join that have been here and contributed to the site for a while.
All these new people here seemingly demanding to be in the new beginner groups. I wonder how many of them are actually trying to learn while waiting. And where did they all come from?
If the classes are limited, I hope preference will be given to those who want to join that have been here and contributed to the site for a while.
I agree upto certain extend but at the same time applicants who have been here for a long time and contributed to the site but did not learn more than ´evet, hayir´, should be considered as ´hopeless case´
I agree upto certain extend but at the same time applicants who have been here for a long time and contributed to the site but did not learn more than ´evet, hayir´, should be considered as ´hopeless case´
The snaps of this giant Golden Orb Weaver devouring a Mannikin were taken in the garden of a house in Cairns, Australia earlier this week.
Ohh, this scene looks horrible, but it is a part of the nature. Now, I see again that there are so many different types of spiders.
It made me think of my spider that I have in the corner of my room since nearly 1,5 months. I have been observing and letting him accommodate in my room. It´s a nice experience to see what he does when a fly is trapped in his net and I observed that he can live without eating for weeks.
Amazing results using yet another medium for exercising ones creativity.... PAPER Entries for an art contest at the Hirshhorn Modern Art Gallery in DC The rule was that the artist could use only ONEsheet of paper.
Larkana: One Rahim bux kills one hour ago born baby in the name of honour declaring him an illegal kid of his wife.
Rahim bux says it isn’t a shame and disgrace for him to kill the baby because he THINKS the baby is the result of illicit relations of his wife with a man from the village.
The mother’s life is at risk from the barbaric man who used an axe to thrash the baby and soak him up in blood just an hour after he was born.
Larkana: One Rahim bux kills one hour ago born baby in the name of honour declaring him an illegal kid of his wife.
Rahim bux says it isn’t a shame and disgrace for him to kill the baby because he THINKS the baby is the result of illicit relations of his wife with a man from the village.
The mother’s life is at risk from the barbaric man who used an axe to thrash the baby and soak him up in blood just an hour after he was born.
Larkana: One Rahim bux kills one hour ago born baby in the name of honour declaring him an illegal kid of his wife.
Rahim bux says it isn’t a shame and disgrace for him to kill the baby because he THINKS the baby is the result of illicit relations of his wife with a man from the village.
The mother’s life is at risk from the barbaric man who used an axe to thrash the baby and soak him up in blood just an hour after he was born.
That guy is nuts! Should be locked up very far away forever!
Ros - if you don´t mind me saying this article is very biased! Can I remind you that we were at war with Germany, and equal devastation was caused to London (and Coventry (among many). The town of Coventry was literally flattened.
In addition, German historians recently announced that the actual number of deaths from the bombings in Dresden was was 25,000 and NOT 250,000 which they claimed at the time. Because of this falsehood, the bombing of Dresden was condemned as a war crime after the war. In actual fact it was nothing compared to the deaths from bombings in the UK.
War is horrible, for both sides. My grandmother well remembers being machined gunned by German fighter planes whilst with her schoolfriends, walking to school and being told to lay flat on the ground until it was over.
I am not saying that those Allied bombings of German are not horrible. I just think that posting such an article, out of context, gives completely the wrong impression. Ask France, ask Poland, ask England, ask Holland, ask all the affected countries - they will all have similar stories.
it was only Britain´s own fault. If Britain has acted on time there wouldn´t be such a horror called WWII, at least for 3 years Britons ignored all messages from the war. It was a punishment UK earned for letting Germany murder millions and millions.
it was only Britain´s own fault. If Britain has acted on time there wouldn´t be such a horror called WWII, at least for 3 years Britons ignored all messages from the war. It was a punishment UK earned for letting Germany murder millions and millions.
You should read your history books sour lemon - maybe you mean the US?
However, I am flattered that you joined for the sole purpose of disagreeing with my posts. Look forward to a good debate with you
Iranian experts have finished the restoration of the country´s 700-year-old Soltanieh Dome, located in the western province of Zanjan.
Iran´s Cultural Heritage, Handicrafts, and Tourism Organization (ICHTO) refurbished the brick structure´s exterior with azure tiles made in traditional kilns over a four-year period. “Some 100,000 tiles were used to restore the structure, all of which were produced in the area,” said head of the restoration project, Mohammad Reza Qorbanzadeh.
“Experts will also use strengthening material to protect the tiles from the area´s cold and windy climate,” he added.
Soltanieh Dome, built during the Ilkhanid era, was the world´s tallest building of its time and currently ranks third after Italy´s Saint Mary church in Florence and Turkey´s Aya Sofia Mosque in Istanbul.
The 200-ton structure was registered as a UNESCO World Heritage site in 2006 after the Naqsh-e-Jahan square, Persepolis, Chogha Zanbil Ziggurat, Takht-e-Soleiman, Pasargadae, and Bam citadel.
STUDENT doctors have found an amazing aid to prevent patients with heart failure from dying — the Bee Gees classic Stayin’ Alive.
The Seventies tune bounces along at 103 beats per minute, almost the perfect rhythm to use during CPR, when hand pressure is applied on the chest to keep blood-flow going.
Now young doctors are training for the technique while listening to the Gibb brothers’ disco classic on their iPods.
They are told to time chest compressions to the beat and have averaged 109 per minute.
Later, the students from the University of Illinois are made to perform the same drill without the Saturday Night Fever music but are told to think of the hit while doing the chest pumps.
Study author Dr David Matlock said: “The song motivates them to keep up the rate, which is the most important thing.”
He said Stayin’ Alive was effective because it was so catchy and lodged itself in your head
CPR can triple heart attack survival rates when properly performed but many people hesitate about using it because they are not sure about keeping the proper rhythm.
But American Heart Association spokesman Dr Vinay Nadkarni said: “The Bee Gees just hit upon this natural rhythm that was very catchy, very popular and that helps us do the right thing.”
STUDENT doctors have found an amazing aid to prevent patients with heart failure from dying — the Bee Gees classic Stayin’ Alive.
The Seventies tune bounces along at 103 beats per minute, almost the perfect rhythm to use during CPR, when hand pressure is applied on the chest to keep blood-flow going.
Now young doctors are training for the technique while listening to the Gibb brothers’ disco classic on their iPods.
They are told to time chest compressions to the beat and have averaged 109 per minute.
Later, the students from the University of Illinois are made to perform the same drill without the Saturday Night Fever music but are told to think of the hit while doing the chest pumps.
Study author Dr David Matlock said: “The song motivates them to keep up the rate, which is the most important thing.”
He said Stayin’ Alive was effective because it was so catchy and lodged itself in your head
CPR can triple heart attack survival rates when properly performed but many people hesitate about using it because they are not sure about keeping the proper rhythm.
But American Heart Association spokesman Dr Vinay Nadkarni said: “The Bee Gees just hit upon this natural rhythm that was very catchy, very popular and that helps us do the right thing.”
This is hilarious! I can imagine our ER blasting this song during a code so that everyone can keep a proper rhythym!
Must be TheHandsom´s revenge. It snowed in Wales yesterday, today it moved west to MY Island (Ireland). I guess yours down south is safe for now (he´ll be aiming at Elisabeth now as he still has no laptop)
Most city skies have become virtually empty of stars
If humans were truly at home under the light of the moon and stars, we would go in darkness happily, the midnight world as visible to us as it is to the vast number of nocturnal species on this planet. Instead, we are diurnal creatures, with eyes adapted to living in the sun´s light. This is a basic evolutionary fact, even though most of us don´t think of ourselves as diurnal beings any more than we think of ourselves as primates or mammals or Earthlings. Yet it´s the only way to explain what we´ve done to the night: We´ve engineered it to receive us by filling it with light.
This kind of engineering is no different than damming a river. Its benefits come with consequences—called light pollution—whose effects scientists are only now beginning to study. Light pollution is largely the result of bad lighting design, which allows artificial light to shine outward and upward into the sky, where it´s not wanted, instead of focusing it downward, where it is. Ill-designed lighting washes out the darkness of night and radically alters the light levels—and light rhythms—to which many forms of life, including ourselves, have adapted. Wherever human light spills into the natural world, some aspect of life—migration, reproduction, feeding—is affected.
For most of human history, the phrase "light pollution" would have made no sense. Imagine walking toward London on a moonlit night around 1800, when it was Earth´s most populous city. Nearly a million people lived there, making do, as they always had, with candles and rushlights and torches and lanterns. Only a few houses were lit by gas, and there would be no public gaslights in the streets or squares for another seven years. From a few miles away, you would have been as likely to smell London as to see its dim collective glow.
Now most of humanity lives under intersecting domes of reflected, refracted light, of scattering rays from overlit cities and suburbs, from light-flooded highways and factories. Nearly all of nighttime Europe is a nebula of light, as is most of the United States and all of Japan. In the south Atlantic the glow from a single fishing fleet—squid fishermen luring their prey with metal halide lamps—can be seen from space, burning brighter, in fact, than Buenos Aires or Rio de Janeiro
SNOW! No, not the tc member from the Weather Boys or Captain Planet Gang. Bakin:
LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY LUCKY YOU!!!!! I miss snow all were getting here is chilly weather and dusty rain! I swear to god the rain is dusty! Its been rainign alot lol, it rained while we were having break ion school, and it was awesome! we decided since we were all wet, why not become even more wet? So we got watre bottles and we made holes in them and had this like water fight lol, but the boys were crazy! Theyd open the cap and then por the whole thinmg over you!!!!!!! ! It looked like we all just had a shower! And what can i say about our hair, just maybe oh la la!
I think we all believe you doudi even if you dont swear to God (....at least I DO )
its a habit, lol, when youre speaking arabic half of what youre sayign is wallah or walahi, we use it more like really, or like when youre convincing somebody, but my mom says the same thing, shes like stop that, I BELIEVE YOU!
But i dont really know how to treansalte them except in to like maybe the closest thing in english is i swear, but it literally means, by my god or adn od, but nobody takes it that way, while speaking it equals really I blab too much right?I should really stop!
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! you know lol is now a basic word in my dictionary! Even in rel life lol, i swear i just go "lol", and last eyar, id always et in trouble with 2 other of my friends, just to piss the tearcher off, id say "l" and shed say o and then nouran would say the last l, lol, it was sooo funny! But its so much easier to say it then to actually lauhg!, What if i dont feel like laughng but its funny? Just go lol
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! you know lol is now a basic word in my dictionary! Even in rel life lol, i swear i just go "lol", and last eyar, id always et in trouble with 2 other of my friends, just to piss the tearcher off, id say "l" and shed say o and then nouran would say the last l, lol, it was sooo funny! But its so much easier to say it then to actually lauhg!, What if i dont feel like laughng but its funny? Just go lol
Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship! Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver. The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.
Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship! Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver. The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.
Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship! Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver. The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.
What does it have to do with his being black?
And he was sooo lucky that german pilot slowed down
Only that he IS the first black winner. And it was his ambition to become "the first black" to do it.
Your reference to "massa" is outrageous!
If you read LL´s comment in another way, maybe it is you who is racist....
Offff
If he won yeah because he was good driver, and i think he is not that good driver that he was gonna lose the race at last tour
I didnt watch whole season this year... i didnt even say massa deserved
there is no racism you little lady... and i wasnt refering libralady is racist aswell... dont twist my words... this is race, needs skills not the skin color
If he won yeah because he was good driver, and i think he is not that good driver that he was gonna lose the race at last tour
I didnt watch whole season this year... i didnt even say massa deserved
there is no racism you little lady... and i wasnt refering libralady is racist aswell... dont twist my words... this is race, needs skills not the skin color
You are taking this all out of perspective Sui. Of course he is a good driver!!!! We are saying he is first black winner because that was HIS AMBITION (his words).
You are taking this all out of perspective Sui. Of course he is a good driver!!!! We are saying he is first black winner because that was HIS AMBITION (his words).
Calm down!
there is no situation to be calmed down... because i am sooooo calm that enjoying the victory of galatasaray
But for me he was lucky this race, rather than being a good pilot otherwise i would see him on podium and grabbing the cup but congragulations to him that for being youngest champ!
by the way... the perspective is changing because of you its who mentioned "racism"
Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship! Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver. The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.
how exciting was that...... but how gutting for Massa did feel a little sorry for him!!
Louis Hamilton and his last fews seconds manover to win the F1 championship! Well done to a well deserved young F1 driver. The youngest to win formula 1 and first black driver to win.
And here´s hoping it´s the first of many for Lewis.
And here´s hoping it´s the first of many for Lewis.
the only problem with winning so young is that where does he set his goals to now. will he have the same passion for it or will he take on the "been there...done it "sort of attitude
A man has been taken to hospital stuck to a public toilet after a prankster covered the seat with glue.
The stainless steel lavatory was removed from a cubicle in Brierley Hill, near Dudley, with the man still attached, after the best efforts of emergency services failed to free him, said West Midlands Ambulance Service.
An ambulance service spokesman explained: "The man was using the facilities when he became stuck on the seat. It appears as though someone had left glue on it.
"Despite best efforts it was not possible to remove the 35-year-old local man from his position so, with the help of a local authority and the fire and rescue service, the man was removed from the cubicle still attached to the stainless steel toilet."
He was taken to hospital where a doctor used special chemicals to free him unhurt, if red-faced, while still inside the ambulance.
"He appeared to be none the worse for his ordeal other than being understandably somewhat embarrassed," the spokesman said.
The toilet, meanwhile, was returned to the public conveniences.
OMG how embarrassing......I would have touble keeping a straight face if I had to deal with this mwahahaha
A new carmaker has a plan for cheap, environmentally friendly cars to be built all over the country
An air-powered car? It may be available sooner than you think at a price tag that will hardly be a budget buster. The vehicle may not run like a speed racer on back road highways, but developer Zero Pollution Motors is betting consumers will be willing to fork over $20,000 for a vehicle that can motor around all day on nothing but air and a splash of salad oil, alcohol or possibly a pint of gasoline ....
Dancing, singing and playing the guitar, residents in the sleepy Japanese fishing port of Obama are readying to party for Barack Obama before Tuesday’s US presidential election. Around 50 men, women and children wearing “I Love Obama” T-shirts practiced hula dancing over the weekend for the Honolulu-born Democratic candidate, hoping he will win the vote and one day visit the town as US president. “I’m 85 percent confident that Obama will win,” said hotel owner Seiji Fujiwara, who heads a group backing Obama in hopes that the town, with a population of 32,000, can share his fame and attract more visitors. “I think he’ll be alright.” Shops in the town have been selling everything from T-shirts, fish burgers and steamed cakes to chopsticks bearing Obama’s name. “We’ve been dancing for Mr. Obama for more than six months,” said Yuko Shirayama of the local “Obama Girls” hula dancing group, created to cheer on Obama. “So I hope he wins.” Her group traveled to Hawaii to celebrate Obama’s victory over Hillary Clinton in the Democratic nomination for US president earlier this year and the dancers hope to go to Obama’s inauguration ceremony if he wins. “If Mr. Obama becomes president and gets a chance to visit Japan, we would like him to visit our city,” Mayor Kouji Matsuzaki told Reuters.
Is it constitutional to close the voting places before midnight? Does it make anybody wonder why today is not made a national holiday so that people are able to vote?
HAHAHAHHAH!LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! I feel sorry for teh guy who bet 50 dollars that it wouldnt work!!! ILl try this really really soon! (maybe before a movie )
Is it constitutional to close the voting places before midnight? Does it make anybody wonder why today is not made a national holiday so that people are able to vote?
Work places are required by law to accomodate workers who vote, thus, the need to make it a holiday is unneccessary (at least that is what they say).
I agree.....especially if you work in healthcare and work 12 hour shifts.....7a to 7p.....hahaha....guess when most poles are open.....7a to 7p......so much for healthcare workers voting! I think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place! I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work! I would have to drive all the way back to my town!
think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place! I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work! I would have to drive all the way back to my town!
Lis, you probably didn´t even need to leave your house and someone would have already voted for you or even voted twice...that´s what´s happening in my state.
I agree.....especially if you work in healthcare and work 12 hour shifts.....7a to 7p.....hahaha....guess when most poles are open.....7a to 7p......so much for healthcare workers voting! I think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place! I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work! I would have to drive all the way back to my town!
In this case maybe the absentee ballot would be an option.
I do believe that Voting day has not become a national holiday in purpose, imagine overcrowded places and all the chaos created by having hundreds of people waiting in line? I think it would get out of control...
think the biggest pain is that you have to vote at a certain place! I can´t even leave on my lunch break to vote near where I work! I would have to drive all the way back to my town!
Lis, you probably didn´t even need to leave your house and someone would have already voted for you or even voted twice...that´s what´s happening in my state.
Na.....this is Texas, honey.......they had to check for weapons before letting us into the voting booths! Security is pretty tight!!
In this case maybe the absentee ballot would be an option.
I can´t remember when I didn´t vote by absentee ballot. I started doing it years ago because I was travelling a lot and never knew if I would be home on election day.
I continue doing it because I can use the day to do last minute campaigning for my candidate. I´ve been calling voters in Virginia all morning to make sure they are getting out to vote. It´s great fun (especially when you are fairly confident your candidate will win )
I do believe that Voting day has not become a national holiday in purpose, imagine overcrowded places and all the chaos created by having hundreds of people waiting in line? I think it would get out of control...
Imagine that people actually voted and were interested in politics, their dirty politics, might not actually work... nahhh... better keep people out of politics.
Diva Dogs the luxury pet boutique and grooming parlour in Essex has started offering dying services to its clients and has just produced its first pink dog. The company claims that pink is the colour that appeals to women, children and Gay men (their main market) and felt that with the currant pink trend in the high street stores they would take the pink frenzy to a whole new level. After pink car seats, pink car stickers even pink cars they decided to have a PINK Doggy fashion show that showcased their pink clothing items with a finale featuring Coco Chanel the PINK poodle.
The dye used is Vegetable based non-toxic to dogs or humans and the dog can lick it as it is completely safe.
The wash in dye will last approximately 4 weeks on a dog unless they were bathed everyday (which Diva Dogs do not recommend) then the colour would last approx 1 week. The cost starts from £45 upwards dependent on the size of the animal, a standard poodle costs around £100. It took approximately two hours to dye Coco´s coat including preparation de-matting (removing knots etc) and cleaning her coat so that there is no build up of dirt. The dye is then applied by working it into the coat with a conditioner and has to stay on for the hound for around 20 minutes. Rinsing, drying and styling complete the treatment. Most varieties of dog can be dyed but final results differ. The best coats to dye are light coloured, as variants in the coat colour will produce different shades of pink.
OMG I did this years ago!!!!!! When I was a student, I had a birthday party one year and we put a pink colour rinse in my housemate´s white fluffy dog!!!!!!
It was so funny...until the next morning when she had to take it for a walk
Girleegirl in a political argument!!!! Go Girleeeeeeeeee
(not very shallow of you though!)
Oh damn! I have broken my own commandment of staying out of political debates. But now that the election is over I will try my best to get back to my shallow-self.
OMG I did this years ago!!!!!! When I was a student, I had a birthday party one year and we put a pink colour rinse in my housemate´s white fluffy dog!!!!!!
OMG I did this years ago!!!!!! When I was a student, I had a birthday party one year and we put a pink colour rinse in my housemate´s white fluffy dog!!!!!!
Oh damn! I have broken my own commandment of staying out of political debates. But now that the election is over I will try my best to get back to my shallow-self.
Well thank goodness! I was getting tired of you being so deep!
Former assistant director to Abbas Kiarostami and star of Samira Makhmalbaf´s Blackboards, Bahman Ghobadi makes his directorial debut with this gritty, documentary-like look at Kurdish orphans struggling to survive. Shot in the village where the filmmaker grew up, the film unsentimentally depicts how children are packed in trucks and driven to the city to perform such menial jobs as wrapping parcels or, more likely, carrying large boxes like pack mules. Though Ayoub is all of 12 years old, he has become the head of the household, which includes his severely disabled older brother -- who is also deathly ill. In order to pay for an operation that might prolong his life, Ayoub joins a group of smugglers who traffic truck tires to Iraq. Negotiating landmines and dodging border guards, they struggle to get their overburdened mules through snow covered mountains by plying them with alcohol. Later, the eldest sister agrees to marry an Iraqi Kurd, under the belief that the groom´s family will pay for the operation. This film was screened at the 2000 Cannes and Toronto film festivals.
Chef Ed Chester of the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon who is offering £5.50 squirrel kebabs. A head chef has said his customers are literally going nuts for his latest creation - squirrel KEBABS. Adventurous Ed Chester first unveiled the snack at a food festival and said he sold out within minutes to hungry punters.
To create the kebabs he marinates the meat in red wine then lightly barbecues and rolls them in honey and chopped hazelnuts. Ed, head chef at the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon, has now put them on his menu for £5.50 each.
ps I am not giving links to the bigger pictures incase someone thinks they are offensive
Chef Ed Chester of the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon who is offering £5.50 squirrel kebabs. A head chef has said his customers are literally going nuts for his latest creation - squirrel KEBABS. Adventurous Ed Chester first unveiled the snack at a food festival and said he sold out within minutes to hungry punters.
To create the kebabs he marinates the meat in red wine then lightly barbecues and rolls them in honey and chopped hazelnuts. Ed, head chef at the Otterton Mill restaurant near Budleigh Salterton, Devon, has now put them on his menu for £5.50 each.
Didn´t we have a post like this recently with exactly the same pictures? What is so strange about eating squirrels anyway? They are vegetarian animals (which is the only kind deemed acceptable in the west) so what is the problem?
If you choose to eat meat, does it really make a different whether the animal was cute and fluffy or not?
Didn´t we have a post like this recently with exactly the same pictures? What is so strange about eating squirrels anyway? They are vegetarian animals (which is the only kind deemed acceptable in the west) so what is the problem?
If you choose to eat meat, does it really make a different whether the animal was cute and fluffy or not?
Yes you are right AE, he did post these before! He had better watch out when LIR comes on line, he will get a proper telling off! Duplicating a post how dare he, how VERY dare he???
Yes you are right AE, he did post these before! He had better watch out when LIR comes on line, he will get a proper telling off! Duplicating a post how dare he, how VERY dare he???
Yes you are right AE, he did post these before! He had better watch out when LIR comes on line, he will get a proper telling off! Duplicating a post how dare he, how VERY dare he???
It is NOT the same news
The other one was about killing them, this one is different. this is kind of recipe .
The other one was about killing them, this one is different. this is kind of recipe .
And the pictures are different too..
and
Are you obsessed with squirrels then? The other item showed them being cooked too. Or maybe you just post it because you know I will find it offensive (as your PS suggested). Perhaps next you could find pictures of dogs or cats being skinned and cooked? Maybe you may appeal to a wider audience then...
I can do much better than you. Shall I post nice pictures of how the animals you eat are treated and suffer? Are you "into" that kind of thing?
By posting this, a Scotsman is highlighting the shortage of Turks who post now
Thats what I noticed when I posted LL. 3 years ago when I first joined this site there would have been many tributes. It seems there is a general disillusionment amongst the younger generation regarding his achievements.
After reading bydand´s comment I was browsing through some posts from the very early days of TC and came across this member who was briefly here in the early days
After reading bydand´s comment I was browsing through some posts from the very early days of TC and came across this member who was briefly here in the early days
Shamwari Game Reserve, South Africa - A baby elephant and a sheep may not appear to have much in common, but at the Shamwari Game Reserve these two animals have become the best of pals. Eight-month-old orphan Themba, whose name means ´hope´ in Xhosa, struck up a friendship with wooly Albert after arriving at the reserve´s animal hospital when he was just six months old. Themba´s mum had fallen off a cliff and died at the Sanbona Wildlife Reserve, where Themba was born. Shamwari´s veterinary team were called in and monitored the young elephant in the weeks that followed, hoping he would be adopted by another elephant cow and would allow him to suckle. Unfortunately, this did not happen and the Shamwari team, with just hours to spare, swooped in to save the baby elephant from starving to death. Like humans, baby elephants need constant care and attention, so members of the team at the Shamwari Animal Hospital and Rehabilitation Centre take turns in sleeping with Themba, getting up to feed him when he cries and comfort him when he is distressed. When the team introduced Albert and Themba, there was some initial tension, but this soon disappeared and now the two are inseparable friends.
Shamwari Game Reserve, South Africa - A baby elephant and a sheep may not appear to have much in common, but at the Shamwari Game Reserve these two animals have become the best of pals. Eight-month-old orphan Themba, whose name means ´hope´ in Xhosa, struck up a friendship with wooly Albert after arriving at the reserve´s animal hospital when he was just six months old. Themba´s mum had fallen off a cliff and died at the Sanbona Wildlife Reserve, where Themba was born. Shamwari´s veterinary team were called in and monitored the young elephant in the weeks that followed, hoping he would be adopted by another elephant cow and would allow him to suckle. Unfortunately, this did not happen and the Shamwari team, with just hours to spare, swooped in to save the baby elephant from starving to death. Like humans, baby elephants need constant care and attention, so members of the team at the Shamwari Animal Hospital and Rehabilitation Centre take turns in sleeping with Themba, getting up to feed him when he cries and comfort him when he is distressed. When the team introduced Albert and Themba, there was some initial tension, but this soon disappeared and now the two are inseparable friends.
Shamwari Game Reserve, South Africa - A baby elephant and a sheep may not appear to have much in common, but at the Shamwari Game Reserve these two animals have become the best of pals. Eight-month-old orphan Themba, whose name means ´hope´ in Xhosa, struck up a friendship with wooly Albert after arriving at the reserve´s animal hospital when he was just six months old. Themba´s mum had fallen off a cliff and died at the Sanbona Wildlife Reserve, where Themba was born. Shamwari´s veterinary team were called in and monitored the young elephant in the weeks that followed, hoping he would be adopted by another elephant cow and would allow him to suckle. Unfortunately, this did not happen and the Shamwari team, with just hours to spare, swooped in to save the baby elephant from starving to death. Like humans, baby elephants need constant care and attention, so members of the team at the Shamwari Animal Hospital and Rehabilitation Centre take turns in sleeping with Themba, getting up to feed him when he cries and comfort him when he is distressed. When the team introduced Albert and Themba, there was some initial tension, but this soon disappeared and now the two are inseparable friends.
Two men have been found guilty of causing the death of a 17-month-old boy in Haringey in north London.
Jason Owen, 36, from Bromley, and a 32-year-old had denied killing the child in August 2007. He suffered a series of injuries, including a broken back.
The boy´s mother had pleaded guilty to causing the death of the boy, who was seen about 60 times by social workers, doctors and welfare and family groups.
Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case.
The rest of the article with a picture of the dead baby is not for the faint hearted...
Two men have been found guilty of causing the death of a 17-month-old boy in Haringey in north London.
Jason Owen, 36, from Bromley, and a 32-year-old had denied killing the child in August 2007. He suffered a series of injuries, including a broken back.
The boy´s mother had pleaded guilty to causing the death of the boy, who was seen about 60 times by social workers, doctors and welfare and family groups.
Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case.
The rest of the article with a picture of the dead baby is not for the faint hearted...
That guy Owen..... I´m against torture but in this case I think I´d like to make an exception!
I´d call these people animals - except it would be an insult to animals. And as for the social services involved.........I hope they can live with themselves.
I´d call these people animals - except it would be an insult to animals. And as for the social services involved.........I hope they can live with themselves.
This story is just heartbreaking......It is just incomprehendible how anyone could abuse and torture are little innocent child... I have been working in child proctection for over 10 years, but not in England.... If this child have been under my umbrella or care when this happened, I know I certainly could not live with myself........
I´d call these people animals - except it would be an insult to animals. And as for the social services involved.........I hope they can live with themselves.
and this in the same borough and the same department that failed Victoria Climbie.... so much for a progressive society
Two men have been found guilty of causing the death of a 17-month-old boy in Haringey in north London.
Jason Owen, 36, from Bromley, and a 32-year-old had denied killing the child in August 2007. He suffered a series of injuries, including a broken back.
The boy´s mother had pleaded guilty to causing the death of the boy, who was seen about 60 times by social workers, doctors and welfare and family groups.
Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case.
The rest of the article with a picture of the dead baby is not for the faint hearted...
What is even more tragic is that the police investigation was hindered by the Social Services and red tape, not allowing essential paperwork being provided. You will notice that the main perpertrator was the sadistic, pain loving boyfriend 32 and not Owen 36. Not that it excuses anthing. None of this three should ever be allowed to see daylight again, after having some of the injuries inflicked on them first.
Two social workers and a lawyer have been given warnings over the case.
Warnings!?!?! OMG! They are given warnings so they can go on with their job of turning the other way while abuse is going on right under their noses?????
There was a similar case in the US several years back.....Child Protective Services visited the child´s home numerous times and then the child "disappeared". The social worker went on filing reports as if she had seen the child.......who was later found dead. I never heard the outcome of what happened to the social worker but I know she was facing charges.
And on a side note I can´t help but notice that this was an article about abuse that occured in the UK and was reported by the news in the UK.........what a concept.
And on a side note I can´t help but notice that this was an article about abuse that occured in the UK and was reported by the news in the UK.........what a concept.
I think there must have been a mistake... possibly
The daily Iranian newspaperEtemaad today covereda funny but sad story about the cutting down of two centuries-old mulberry trees by authorities under the pretext of fighting local superstitions.
The story comes out of the town of Rezvanshahr, along the Caspian Sea province of Gilan, where lush forests are increasingly destroyed by urbanization and pollution.
There the local head of an Islamic charity named "Mr. Eshkavari" has decided to tear down a pair of old trees on properties he owns because some people are placing candles and ribbons at them as part of an ancient ritual.
This story is just heartbreaking......It is just incomprehendible how anyone could abuse and torture are little innocent child... I have been working in child proctection for over 10 years, but not in England.... If this child have been under my umbrella or care when this happened, I know I certainly could not live with myself........
This is horrific I don´t know much about family social services, but from my observation it does seem that the emphasis is too much on helping the parents, rather than the children. Yet another story today about two children stabbed....
I do think that much of the problem is now cultural here. Women (especially young women) have bizarre reasons for having children (including "to get out of school", "because I thought it would make my boyfriend stay with me", "because I wanted to get more money from social services" because it is socially acceptable to have babies at any age (married or unmarried).
My comment sounds far more conservative than I actually am, but I just think that there is a social/cultural problem in the UK and it´s effects are increasingly frightening. I don´t really know what the answer is
I do think that much of the problem is now cultural here. Women (especially young women) have bizarre reasons for having children (including "to get out of school", "because I thought it would make my boyfriend stay with me", "because I wanted to get more money from social services" because it is socially acceptable to have babies at any age (married or unmarried).
My comment sounds far more conservative than I actually am, but I just think that there is a social/cultural problem in the UK and it´s effects are increasingly frightening. I don´t really know what the answer is
Unfortunately it goes deeper thn that - there seems to be an expectation for all women to have children........
The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..
yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!
The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..
yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!
here are some pics anyway:
Get a life theH - we know you´re in there somewhere! I bet you told the MD you were just ´nipping out for a sandwich´ didn´t you??
The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..
yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!
here are some pics anyway:
I walked through St Pancras twice yesterday and never noticed this bunch! I see really they are out of the way, beyond the champange bar.
This is horrific I don´t know much about family social services, but from my observation it does seem that the emphasis is too much on helping the parents, rather than the children. Yet another story today about two children stabbed....
I do think that much of the problem is now cultural here. Women (especially young women) have bizarre reasons for having children (including "to get out of school", "because I thought it would make my boyfriend stay with me", "because I wanted to get more money from social services" because it is socially acceptable to have babies at any age (married or unmarried).
My comment sounds far more conservative than I actually am, but I just think that there is a social/cultural problem in the UK and it´s effects are increasingly frightening. I don´t really know what the answer is
I can completely understand why you think that the system is here to help the parents... but from my point of view, I am here to help and support the children, and sometimes the best way to help the children is to help the parents to become better parents... You are completely correct about many young mothers and fathers having children because they get financial support and housing....if there is no evidence that the child is at risk then you have to work to allow that child to have a happy home life with parents who can cope ...I wont go into my experience of parenting classes and detox programms.. it would take too long
but what i would like to say there is still too much red tape in some areas of the uk and too little in other parts of the uk.......
in the last week I spent 3 hours interviewing a parent because their child failed a maths exam and made a silly comment "my mum is going to kill to me, im in big trouble when i get home" some teacher decided that according to legislation it would be right to report this comment".....another 3 hours spent this week interviewing a parent because their child fell off a wall and had been to the hospital for another incident in the past 6 months.... I discussed this with my colleagues who feel that doing something is better than nothing... but what happened to common sense?
so what i ask myself is how can the child protection in my area be so aggressive and this baby was seen 60 times.....and no one did a thing
I dont have the answers... just in my region we were inspected on our child protection and we go a good report on most aspects apart from sharing information with other agencies
I dont know the in´s and out´s of this case but perhaps if agencies were more willing to share information this could be prevented in the future
and i cant belive i have gone on and on about this... but its something i feel very passionate about......
No idea - but I don´t suppose you spent the whole day walking through St Pancras did you? I doubt they spent all day there.
Hahaha! It is actually quite a beautiful place................ and some nice shops................. I suppose it was about 9:45 this morning............. but the photos are taken upstairs where no one would go, unless you are going to the champagne bar and that is out of my price range. Cup of tea in Starbucks is about my limit
The romance was virtual. But the behaviour of David Pollard´s character in an online game has cost him his real marriage!!
As divorce cases go, ... a woman catches her husband having sex with a prostitute, forgives him, but finally throws in the towel after discovering he has been unfaithful again. Yet absolutely none of it happened in real life.
Amy Taylor is divorcing David Pollard, .. on the grounds of "unreasonable behaviour" after she discovered his character in the online community game Second Life had been having an affair.
It was the second time ....l. Before they were married, she had once awoken from an afternoon nap to discover him sitting at his computer watching his online character – whom he had named Dave Barmy – having sex with an on-screen call girl.
She said: "I went mad – I was so hurt. I just couldn´t believe what he´d done. I looked at the computer screen and could see his character having sex with a female character. It´s cheating as far as I´m concerned."
.. But in April this year, she caught his character in flagrante for a second time. "I caught him cuddling a woman on a sofa in the game. It looked really affectionate," she said...
The day after discovering his online affair, Ms Taylor filed for divorce,..
Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.
..but then Amy found out about it and went mad, and said ´how could you do this, you bastard?´
I can completely understand why you think that the system is here to help the parents... but from my point of view, I am here to help and support the children, and sometimes the best way to help the children is to help the parents to become better parents... You are completely correct about many young mothers and fathers having children because they get financial support and housing....if there is no evidence that the child is at risk then you have to work to allow that child to have a happy home life with parents who can cope ...I wont go into my experience of parenting classes and detox programms.. it would take too long
but what i would like to say there is still too much red tape in some areas of the uk and too little in other parts of the uk.......
in the last week I spent 3 hours interviewing a parent because their child failed a maths exam and made a silly comment "my mum is going to kill to me, im in big trouble when i get home" some teacher decided that according to legislation it would be right to report this comment".....another 3 hours spent this week interviewing a parent because their child fell off a wall and had been to the hospital for another incident in the past 6 months.... I discussed this with my colleagues who feel that doing something is better than nothing... but what happened to common sense?
so what i ask myself is how can the child protection in my area be so aggressive and this baby was seen 60 times.....and no one did a thing
I dont have the answers... just in my region we were inspected on our child protection and we go a good report on most aspects apart from sharing information with other agencies
I dont know the in´s and out´s of this case but perhaps if agencies were more willing to share information this could be prevented in the future
and i cant belive i have gone on and on about this... but its something i feel very passionate about......
As I said I don´t know enough about how Social Services work (you obviously know more about it). Despite my comments about them, I do think we all rush to blame them, instead of blaming the actual parents (!) and society itself.
I feel very passionate about it too, and my sister (who is a special care baby unit nurse) tells me horrific stories of some of the babies they have in their care, some harmed, some full of illegal drugs because the mother took them during pregnancy. They find that social services do everything they can to return these babies to their mothers, and it is heartbreaking for them to hand back these poor babies, who have been so mistreated, to the very people who harmed them in the first place
The romance was virtual. But the behaviour of David Pollard´s character in an online game has cost him his real marriage!!
As divorce cases go, ... a woman catches her husband having sex with a prostitute, forgives him, but finally throws in the towel after discovering he has been unfaithful again. Yet absolutely none of it happened in real life.
Amy Taylor is divorcing David Pollard, .. on the grounds of "unreasonable behaviour" after she discovered his character in the online community game Second Life had been having an affair.
It was the second time ....l. Before they were married, she had once awoken from an afternoon nap to discover him sitting at his computer watching his online character – whom he had named Dave Barmy – having sex with an on-screen call girl.
She said: "I went mad – I was so hurt. I just couldn´t believe what he´d done. I looked at the computer screen and could see his character having sex with a female character. It´s cheating as far as I´m concerned."
.. But in April this year, she caught his character in flagrante for a second time. "I caught him cuddling a woman on a sofa in the game. It looked really affectionate," she said...
The day after discovering his online affair, Ms Taylor filed for divorce,..
Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.
..but then Amy found out about it and went mad, and said ´how could you do this, you bastard?´
Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.
Quoting libralady
Well I find this incredible! Bit like divorcing someone for reading a magazine.................
Agreed....if it was just the game but he was having an affair with a real person albeit it an online affair. I think that was what his wife was ticked off about!
Mr Pollard, 40, admitted he had been having an online affair with a woman from America, and the pair´s characters are now engaged in Second Life.
Agreed....if it was just the game but he was having an affair with a real person albeit it an online affair. I think that was what his wife was ticked off about!
My interpretation of an affair would be to have sex with someone in real life on a regular basis other than your regular partner - so perhaps in that case we are all guilty of having online affairs. How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN??? Would you call that having an affair? Not in my book
And what a handsome couple they made.....................................
My interpretation of an affair would be to have sex with someone in real life on a regular basis other than your regular partner - so perhaps in that case we are all guilty of having online affairs. How many people (men) do you chat to on your MSN??? Would you call that having an affair? Not in my book
And what a handsome couple they made.....................................
Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL. I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse
BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"
Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL. I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse
BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"
I know, I could not get the content out of the boxes!
Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL. I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse
personally, I am not sure which one is worse, but I think that a real-life thing is worse!! when something actually happens.. an online thing, or regular magazines... that is also bad, but to me, it´s one step behind from actually having an affair.
The attempt to break the "the largest gathering of people wearing underpants/knickers in one place" Guinnes record attracted more than 150 people at St. Pancras station, London..
yeah yeah..they have never been in the army..quite a pathetic attempt!!
Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL. I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse
BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"
Maybe I am a tad on the liberal side (I think Catwoman elluded to that in one thread ) but I really don´t see it as such a problem. A bigger problem for me would be jealous and possessiveness........... than a straying from the path of monogomy
Maybe I am a tad on the liberal side (I think Catwoman elluded to that in one thread ) but I really don´t see it as such a problem. A bigger problem for me would be jealous and possessiveness........... than a straying from the path of monogomy
Lots of conservative people here. I think, this case would have best been handled by an inquisition court hundreds of years ago.
I wonder where would those siding up with the woman in this case place thought-crime?
Every man would like to have sex with lots of women they see in the street without ever remembering who they are, what they look like. This is in their nature. It is all because of the hormones and maybe partly because of the way they were raised in their families.I am not sure whether this is the case with women too but I wouldn´t be surprized at all if most of them did not observe men the way a nun would (the true thoughts of whom only God knows).
Every nation´s literature is full of stories of perversion and sexuality. One classic short story pops up in my mind is "Girls in Their Summer Dresses" by Irwin Shaw. As far as I remember, it depicts a man in his forties who enjoys watching women as they are passing by in the street a habit which at first irritates his wife with whom he comes to terms later on after convincing her that his is just a pleasing activity for him and nothing more.
Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL. I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse
BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"
Quoting libralady
Maybe I am a tad on the liberal side (I think Catwoman alluded to that in one thread ) but I really don´t see it as such a problem. A bigger problem for me would be jealous and possessiveness........... than a straying from the path of monogomy
I think Aenigma is right - becoming very close to someone in an on line ´relationship´ could be considered more intimate than a ´real life´ purely sexual relationship.
Lots of conservative people here. I think, this case would have best been handled by an inquisition court hundreds of years ago.
I wonder where would those siding up with the woman in this case place thought-crime?
Every man would like to have sex with lots of women they see in the street without ever remembering who they are, what they look like. This is in their nature. It is all because of the hormones and maybe partly because of the way they were raised in their families.I am not sure whether this is the case with women too but I wouldn´t be surprized at all if most of them did not observe men the way a nun would (the true thoughts of whom only God knows).
Every nation´s literature is full of stories of perversion and sexuality. One classic short story pops up in my mind is "Girls in Their Summer Dresses" by Irwin Shaw. As far as I remember, it depicts a man in his forties who enjoys watching women as they are passing by in the street a habit which at first irritates his wife with whom he comes to terms later on after convincing her that his is just a pleasing activity for him and nothing more.
I agree with you Vineyards, and that is why I can forgive physical adultery more than emotional. If your partner falls in love with someone else, what is the point in continuing?
I agree with you Vineyards, and that is why I can forgive physical adultery more than emotional. If your partner falls in love with someone else, what is the point in continuing?
Well I agree with that - too many unhappy relationships just carry on.
But this is a very interesting debate, really about how people perceive different relationships. And Vinyards, what makes you think it might only be men that watch women and not women who watch men and have certain desires? It is called fantasy and we can all fantasise can we not? But I do have to get to the gym all those well toned bodies
If they get dirty, then u cants eee anything, its like ahving smthg infront of you!!!
U know it was really funny, a couple of days ago, my glasses were dirt and i was watching TV and i thought the dirt was on the TV screen lol, andi was soo annoyed and i didnt even realise until the commercials came and i went ot the kitchen
If they get dirty, then u cants eee anything, its like ahving smthg infront of you!!!
U know it was really funny, a couple of days ago, my glasses were dirt and i was watching TV and i thought the dirt was on the TV screen lol, andi was soo annoyed and i didnt even realise until the commercials came and i went ot the kitchen
Get some lýke these! (see the little windscreen-wipers  
Well I had a few lined up for you at the beginning of this season - but you never turned up. I´ll do my best next year but remember its still the early bird that catches the best worm!!
Well actually I disagree with you on this one LL. I could forgive an affair if it was just sexual attraction, but the thought of my partner getting very close to someone on MSN, thinking about them all the time, sending SMS etc., is actually worse
BTW for a mod, you made a right mess-up of your "quotes"
Some psychiatrists have found that most women would find an actual emotional, intellectual entangelment....a touching of the soul, so to speak, more of a threat than a casual sexual escapade.
Sabri Bogday, the Turkish barber condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, is expected to soon be released, Naci Koru, the Turkish ambassador to Riyad, told the family of the convicted man, the Dogan News Agency reported on Sunday.
Bogday had moved to the Saudi city of Jeddah from the southeastern Turkish province of Hatay where he was running a barbershop, and was arrested by Saudi officials after being accused by his Egyptian neighbor, a tailor that he had argued with, of "cursing the name of Allah".
Saudi authorities arrested Bogday and later condemned him to death. His family had appealed the decision and demanded that the president and prime minister intervene to prevent the execution.
President Abdullah Gul asserted efforts to save the Bogday from execution, sending a letter to Saudi King Abdullah requesting a pardon for Bogday. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had also contacted Saudi officials asking them to spare Bogday´s life.
Erdogan was reportedly waiting for the result of deliberations that continued at the top level to avert the execution.
In 1995, four Turkish citizens were beheaded in Saudi Arabia on charges of drug trafficking, despite strong pressure from Turkey. Bilateral relations were severely damaged by the move and could only be rebuilt after the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government came to power in 2002.
Source: Hurriyet
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If everyone who cursed the name of God would be executed......
Sabri Bogday, the Turkish barber condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, is expected to soon be released, Naci Koru, the Turkish ambassador to Riyad, told the family of the convicted man, the Dogan News Agency reported on Sunday.
Bogday had moved to the Saudi city of Jeddah from the southeastern Turkish province of Hatay where he was running a barbershop, and was arrested by Saudi officials after being accused by his Egyptian neighbor, a tailor that he had argued with, of "cursing the name of Allah".
Saudi authorities arrested Bogday and later condemned him to death. His family had appealed the decision and demanded that the president and prime minister intervene to prevent the execution.
President Abdullah Gul asserted efforts to save the Bogday from execution, sending a letter to Saudi King Abdullah requesting a pardon for Bogday. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had also contacted Saudi officials asking them to spare Bogday´s life.
Erdogan was reportedly waiting for the result of deliberations that continued at the top level to avert the execution.
In 1995, four Turkish citizens were beheaded in Saudi Arabia on charges of drug trafficking, despite strong pressure from Turkey. Bilateral relations were severely damaged by the move and could only be rebuilt after the Justice and Development Party (AKP) government came to power in 2002.
Source: Hurriyet
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If everyone who cursed the name of God would be executed......
Yes!! You know a very very similar thing is happening there in Saudi Arabia too to an Egyptian doctor!
He´s accused of casuing one of the prince´s wives of getting addicted to morphibe while treatinbg her, even though the lady confessed that she´d gotten addicted to it while on a trip in america, and they say that the prince sent his wife to the egyptian doctor to get treated but later acxxuse dhim, he was sentenced to a couple of years in prison and a nd a couple of thousand whips! Even though the guy is innocent!And the egyptian embassy begged saudis to stop the sentence (BTW it still ahsnt been done yet)
The ministr of something (I dont remember what shes the minister of) said that no more egyptian doctoers are allowed to go to Saudi Arabia, and taht is very bad cause most doctores 9egyptian) got to saudi arabia to work there becuase it gets u lots of $$$
So I think thats really abd cause now she ruined the lives of so many people ....
BTW do you know how many turks in saudi arabia are barbers????? Almost all of themm!!! There are sooo many!!! But they vchartge 3 times as much as a normal barber thats what my dad used to say at least, hed take my brothers there cause he said he trusted them more than saudi barbers and cause theyer cleaner and there are also sooo many of them working in doner stores! OMG they make the besttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!! Its soooo tasty!!!
Police have arrested a man after three people were stabbed at a music awards show on Saturday night.
Hundreds of people have been questioned after violence erupted at the 6th Annual Urban Music Awards at The O2 Arena in London.
Eyewitnesses said there was "blood all over the floor" after a huge brawl broke out at around 10pm, sending champagne bottles and chairs flying and causing general "hysteria".
Guns were also said to have been spotted inside the auditorium.
One man has been arrested after police cordoned off the venue and questioned around 300 guests until the early hours of the morning.
Guest Andre Nevling said a woman sitting at the same table as himself was "covered" in blood.
"Obviously the guy who got stabbed must have run straight past her and she´s pretty shaken up.
"I came out of the auditorium and looked at her and she was just standing there. I saw blood all over the floor and then I was like, ´Jesus you´re covered in it´," he said.
London Ambulance Service said three patients, one of whom is thought to be a 20-year-old, were treated at the scene and were been taken to London hospitals.
Estelle, Adele, Leona Lewis, Dizzee Rascal and Duffy were among the performers nominated for awards at last night´s ceremony.
Yes!! You know a very very similar thing is happening there in Saudi Arabia too to an Egyptian doctor!
He´s accused of casuing one of the prince´s wives of getting addicted to morphibe while treatinbg her, even though the lady confessed that she´d gotten addicted to it while on a trip in america, and they say that the prince sent his wife to the egyptian doctor to get treated but later acxxuse dhim, he was sentenced to a couple of years in prison and a nd a couple of thousand whips! Even though the guy is innocent!And the egyptian embassy begged saudis to stop the sentence (BTW it still ahsnt been done yet)
The ministr of something (I dont remember what shes the minister of) said that no more egyptian doctoers are allowed to go to Saudi Arabia, and taht is very bad cause most doctores 9egyptian) got to saudi arabia to work there becuase it gets u lots of $$$
So I think thats really abd cause now she ruined the lives of so many people ....
Are you serious ?!!!
Ãt should have been done from the beginning!
Even that sentence has no place in Þariaa,even our Ãmams argued it from that point too!
Well, it immediately ends the idea of ever going to Turkey hoping I can make a living as a teacher....
I happen to think here in the U.S. they are underpaid as well. They do get good benefits, but their salaries could be higher. Our priorities are backwards here, we pay millions of dollars to athletes who are typically on the injured list and don´t pay our teachers enough.
Flesh eating bacteria can be found in supermarkets, hospitals, holes made in dirt, piles made of dirt, spider bites, the waters of our harbors and in the bite of the komodo dragon. Everywhere in the world, it exists to emerge from it´s dimension into ours in a way befitting those methods employed by Lovecraft´s elder gods. Only here, there is no gauzy poetry or occult description to shield the eye and mind; the terror of this real invader lies in the shock of it´s punch and the blooming speed of an attack that is illiterate, wet and brutal.
The only thing warding this unholy terror away from your soft flesh is your dead barrier of skin and the addition or subtraction of an enzyme on the bacterium itself. The mutation between one strain and another is random, making the separation between coming down with Necrotizing Fasciitis or Strep Throat the choice between a bad day and the worst day of your life.
The battleground to save the body hinges on keeping the skin intact once the infection settles in. Many times this is impossible and the skin slides off like a rotten tomato to aerate the wound and aid consumption of the host. The window created by the opening skin fuels the spread of infection, creating more surface area for the bacteria to cover and consume.
The first female lady mayor in the southeren part of egypt just took command lol, (these are teh rural areas of egypt that are like puch line of all jokes )
her name is eva habil (shes a christian by the way),
so thats good for them lookgn to how they see ladies theer anyway
u dont know these parts of egypt are always the parts that come in soaps and stuff and these people are really backwards, i m too lazy to type anything about them though.
The first female lady mayor in the southeren part of egypt just took command lol, (these are teh rural areas of egypt that are like puch line of all jokes )
her name is eva habil (shes a christian by the way),
so thats good for them lookgn to how they see ladies theer anyway
u dont know these parts of egypt are always the parts that come in soaps and stuff and these people are really backwards, i m too lazy to type anything about them though.
Somebody else´ss cow will walka nd eat friom their field okay? They get mad and go kill the owners of the cow. They guy who they killed, if he has a son, they will amke him go and kill the guy
and teh son ahs to be of age okay? And if hes not, then they bring him up to hate that family, teach him how to kill, etc etc
For ex. theyd give the job of butcher so he knows hot to kill, and then these feuds have been going on for centuries that they no longer know why theyre killing, they forgot, and wherever you go tehyll go after u, thats how they are, and they also have very wierd beliefs. And if the son refuses to kill, then he is a shame on the family and must eb killed himself.!
I still think that it is not good to generalise all people from a country (or half one - like you yourself do with South-Egypt) because of the actions of a few idiots. Wasn´t it very rude to mock with countries/ethniticities, you said yourself?
The first female lady mayor in the southeren part of egypt just took command lol, (these are teh rural areas of egypt that are like puch line of all jokes )
her name is eva habil (shes a christian by the way),
so thats good for them lookgn to how they see ladies theer anyway
u dont know these parts of egypt are always the parts that come in soaps and stuff and these people are really backwards, i m too lazy to type anything about them though.
Somebody else´ss cow will walka nd eat friom their field okay? They get mad and go kill the owners of the cow. They guy who they killed, if he has a son, they will amke him go and kill the guy
and teh son ahs to be of age okay? And if hes not, then they bring him up to hate that family, teach him how to kill, etc etc
For ex. theyd give the job of butcher so he knows hot to kill, and then these feuds have been going on for centuries that they no longer know why theyre killing, they forgot, and wherever you go tehyll go after u, thats how they are, and they also have very wierd beliefs. And if the son refuses to kill, then he is a shame on the family and must eb killed himself.!
what do you think abtu them now?
Yes doudi,we tend to make jokes about them,but when it comes to manners,behaviours,generous,politness..and actually most of the good nature that you seek,you can find it in them and also we lable good people by it
By saying..heyyy this man is from the south,that means you trust his words,his manner..etc
So i believe you got things all wrong!
They are v.v.v stubborn ,and when they think they are right,its out of the question to convince them otherwise that is why they were materials for many jokes.
They are v.v.v stubborn ,and when they think they are right,its out of the question to convince them otherwise that is why they were materials for many jokes.
Seems to me quite human, to be stubborn and insist you are right. If that means one can joke about it - fine to me - it means also everyone can joke about all other groups, countries, races, ethniticities etc. So if joking for this reason about people from South-Egypt is right, I can´t see a reason why joking about people from Cairo/North-Egypt is not permitted.
Yes doudi,we tend to make jokes about them,but when it comes to manners,behaviours,generous,politness..and actually most of the good nature that you seek,you can find it in them and also we lable good people by it
By saying..heyyy this man is from the south,that means you trust his words,his manner..etc
So i believe you got things all wrong!
They are v.v.v stubborn ,and when they think they are right,its out of the question to convince them otherwise that is why they were materials for many jokes.
Sorry - that comment sounds a bit stubbornist to me - I hope we don´t get a backlash from all the stubborn people on the site.
Seems to me quite human, to be stubborn and insist you are right. If that means one can joke about it - fine to me - it means also everyone can joke about all other groups, countries, races, ethniticities etc. So if joking for this reason about people from South-Egypt is right, I can´t see a reason why joking about people from Cairo/North-Egypt is not permitted.
Well,its not as you think it is...
Ãt is like..if i say the water boils at 100c and they think its not true,then they dont accept
à show proves,i get other´s people to say same..i.... no matter what,they refuse to hear.
.That is mostly how they are,and that was material for jokes,but as i said in my above post,they are very generous,polite people,have ethics and traditions that we almost lost here in Cairo in our race with modern life
There is a system there,its more like Turkish,we have the big families,where elders have the superior words
So i dont mind if we all can be like them,and be as we used to be.
But be aware NEVER tell those jokes infront of them..or they might....!
Of course they very much well known of those jokes,but some gets REALLY made if they been sid infront of them!
Actually things in Egypt are more very simplistic,we do make jokes of even ourselves
Ãt is permitted to make jokes about Cairo,Alex,north Egypt,West East,whatever.
Ãts not a problem here and never was.
Ãt was our way of dealing with things,even using the jokes in political issues.
When we are happy,we make jokes,when we are sad,we also make jokes about it..if thats make sense.
Ãt is like..if i say the water boils at 100c and they think its not true,then they dont accept
à show proves,i get other´s people to say same..i.... no matter what,they refuse to hear.
There is a system there,its more like Turkish,we have the big families,where elders have the superior words.
That is mostly how they are,and that was material for jokes,but as i said in my above post,they are very generous,polite people,have ethics and traditions that we almost lost here in Cairo in our race with moder life
So i dont mind if we all can be like them,and be as we used to be.
Actually things in Egypt are more very simplistic,we do make jokes of ever ourselves
Ãt is permitted to make jokes about Cairo,Alex,north Egypt,West East,whatever.
Ãts not a problem here and never was.
Ãt was our way of dealing with things,even using the jokes in political issues.
When we are happy,we make jokes,when we are sad,we also make jokes about it..if thats make sense.
omg that is soo true! anyway, abput the southern egypt thing, the truth is i hear lots of things and i havent been living her for so long,i get things from jokes, and about their stubbornness, canli is right, u tell them water boils at 100 C theyll say no! I mean they argue abotu the pointless, but okay, so not to be makign a generalisation, not all of hem, alot of them dont like it there come to cairo and go to college and become great people so there are always people who are different, were just saying that theyre the punch line of some jokes thats it, but alot of things are used as punch lines anythiugn we joke about everyhting and anything! Its not that big of a deal, and always when they wanna et the picture of an egyptian they get these people (like in commercials and stuff) anyway, you haver to really live here to get this!
Just be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.
Libralady, you are blowing what happened here completely out of proportion if you feel the two are comparable.
You are also somewhat guilty of being one of those people who likes to appear neutral and respectful, but happily make sly little jokes about, ouh let me think, vegetarians (!) and, in the case of the recent arguments over moderation, very carefully throw a tiny little match into the forum and walk away tutting as the flame causes a fire
A shocking story about a young girl who has committed suicide after a nieghtbour set up a fake MySpace account to bully and intimidate her.
Just be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.
A shocking story indeed and surely the woman concerned must have been mentally unbalanced to think of doing such a thing. However ´in view of recent problems´? You think people are being bullied? It looked to me as though everybody involved in recent ´debates´ was giving as good as they got.
A shocking story about a young girl who has committed suicide after a nieghtbour set up a fake MySpace account to bully and intimidate her.
Just be interested in peoples opinion on this, in light of the recent problems on here.
Sad, so sad, I think too many don´t realize how vulnerable others can be. Here is another shocking cyber incident....
MIAMI (Reuters) - A Florida teenager committed suicide by drug overdose in front of a webcam streaming live video to the Internet and some viewers may have egged him on, authorities said on Friday.
Just as I expected, the ones I thought would jump on me did, with the exception of one who has not yet posted against it. When the boot is on the other foot comes to mind.............................
Just as I expected, the ones I thought would jump on me did, with the exception of one who has not yet posted against it. When the boot is on the other foot comes to mind.............................
Jump on you? As I said, you preach "respect" but enjoy lighting the fires....
When the boot is on the other foot? I really do not understand what comparison you are making here.
MIAMI (Reuters) - A Florida teenager committed suicide by drug overdose in front of a webcam streaming live video to the Internet and some viewers may have egged him on, authorities said on Friday.
There can be real consequences to rudeness.
I think this is well beyond rude.....watching someone die for kicks......it´s sickening.
I can´t imagine how the family of this person feels.
F**king hell, what on earth is going on here!!!?!?!?! Sorry, this is the first time I ever swore here, but how the hell can you compare a suicidal teen on some social networking site with people arguing on this website about deleted posts?
More to the point, why the f**king hell am I wasting any further time reading such dross?
F**king hell, what on earth is going on here!!!?!?!?! Sorry, this is the first time I ever swore here, but how the hell can you compare a suicidal teen on some social networking site with people arguing on this website about deleted posts?
More to the point, why the f**king hell am I wasting any further time reading such dross?
Gee, I don´t know the answer to that, but it is evident you are rather distressed by a few words on a forum from someone you don´t know.
My point is, being polite and considerate is always a good policy to follow, in particular with people whose mental/emotional state you have little knowledge about.
Gee, I don´t know the answer to that, but it is evident you are rather distressed by a few words on a forum from someone you don´t know.
My point is, being polite and considerate is always a good policy to follow, in particular with people whose mental/emotional state you have little knowledge about.
Words are powerful.
I am not distressed, I am just soooooooooo frustrated that you blow such things out of all proportion!
A song for people who still call Isanbul constantipole!!!
Istanbul was Constantinople Now it´s Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it´s Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you´ve a date in Constantinople She´ll be waiting in Istanbul
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam Why they changed it I can´t say People just liked it better that way
So take me back to Constantinople No, you can´t go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works That´s nobody´s business but the Turks
The clear starry sky tonight (tonight being 4:00pm   and the magnificent sunset we have just had............... now the temperature has dropped to freezing and we expect snow tonight
Doudi - the title means something like ´It´s a strange world´ These images are part of an ´Art´ Exhibit - some people have very strange ideas of what they consider to be art.
What is not right about it?? I didn´t watch the entire video because of the bad sound quality, but to me it seemed like some people who were just having a laugh?
i feel sorry for you lisa. i didnt know that in amerika they abused angels like you. our comjunist leader was right that children in amerika are poor and unhappy.
i feel sorry for you lisa. i didnt know that in amerika they abused angels like you. our comjunist leader was right that children in amerika are poor and unhappy.
i feel sorry for you lisa. i didnt know that in amerika they abused angels like you. our comjunist leader was right that children in amerika are poor and unhappy.
Which brings up another discussion..if being poor means having a vehicle and a cell phone..I go to the grocery and the lady in front of me has food stamps...then her cell phone rings..noticed that her cell phone was actually a newer model than mine..I pay for my food, go out to the parking lot and she is getting into a very nice Toyota Camry...
The pyramid of an ancient Egyptian pharaoh has been rediscovered after being buried for generations, archaeologists announced today. (See photos and video.)
The pyramid is thought to house the tomb of King Menkauhor, who is believed to have ruled in Egypt´s 5th dynasty for eight years in the mid-2400s B.C.
Which brings up another discussion..if being poor means having a vehicle and a cell phone..I go to the grocery and the lady in front of me has food stamps...then her cell phone rings..noticed that her cell phone was actually a newer model than mine..I pay for my food, go out to the parking lot and she is getting into a very nice Toyota Camry...
I´m doing something wrong here.....
Oh quit your whinging Teas...just get pregnant, quit your job, list the father as "unknown" on the birth certificate and you too can get an iPhone!!
Actually, what really really REALLY gets me angry is when you see people in line with food stamps but they have a manicure and a pedicure! I don´t even get one unless I am treating myself!!
Which reminds me of some stories from the ER... a person says that they cannot pay for their medication, then they are taking out their phone from a Coach bag... or a person says that he´s not worried about his HIV positive status because Obama will find cure for AIDS...
´Terri Wilson was booted out of Turkey last Saturday when she was put on a ferry to Rhodes from Marmaris after she was found to have been living in the country illegally for at least the last nine months.
Ms Wilson had fled Akbuk and Didim in April and Voices Newspaper had exposed her conniving ways, by getting a developer to build her a luxury villa at Yesiltepe and fleecing thousands in Turkish Lira from well-meaning Turkish and expat residents.´
Facebook group called "Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak must be tried for crimes against humanity"
Egyptian President Mohammed Hosni Mubarak has committed many crimes ranging from torture of the Egyptian people to the murder of political dissidents to the illegal trade of Egyptian resources without their consent. He is an illegitimate leader who has and is continuing to hold power in Egypt by terrorizing the Egyptian people!
He needs to be internationally condemned for the use of torture and false imprisonment against political activists and ordinary Egyptians.
Wikipedia says that this guy has been the president of Egypt since October 1981!!!!!
A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.
He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.
Jayne Ludlam, director of children´s and young people´s services at Sheffield city council, said social workers had become aware of the "harrowing" abuse in June, and that an independent review into the case had already been launched.
In a case with echoes of the Austrian man Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in an underground dungeon for 24 years and fathered seven children with her, Sheffield crown court heard how the man, who is 56 and divorced, began abusing the sisters when they were between eight and 10, and that they were badly beaten to make them comply.
He "took pleasure" in assaulting the girls, the court had heard, and the violent attacks would stop only while the children were pregnant. "His younger daughter told of the frightening habit her father had of putting her head next to the flames of their gas fire and that when she struggled to get away on certain occasions she burnt her eyes," Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting, told the court. They were kept out of school when their injuries were visible, and the family moved repeatedly to avoid suspicion. The girls´ mother left home in the early 1990s; a brother also lived with them until his teens.
The court heard that in 1988 suspicions were raised at the victims´ school due to their injuries but these were blamed on bullying. On one occasion one of the women was asked by a doctor if her father was the father of her own children, which she flatly denied. They also called Childline, the court was told, and asked for a guarantee that their children would not be taken away, but hung up when this assurance could not be given.
Sentencing, Judge Alan Goldsack QC said: "The phrase ´it is difficult to imagine a worse case´ is much overused and rarely, if ever, true. But I can say that in nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases and 14 as a family judge the combination of aggravating circumstances here is the worst I have come across."
Ludlam said: "Due to the seriousness of this case an independent review has already been launched which will look into the circumstances surrounding the case and the contact the agencies had with the victims."
Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is
A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.
He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.
Jayne Ludlam, director of children´s and young people´s services at Sheffield city council, said social workers had become aware of the "harrowing" abuse in June, and that an independent review into the case had already been launched.
In a case with echoes of the Austrian man Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in an underground dungeon for 24 years and fathered seven children with her, Sheffield crown court heard how the man, who is 56 and divorced, began abusing the sisters when they were between eight and 10, and that they were badly beaten to make them comply.
He "took pleasure" in assaulting the girls, the court had heard, and the violent attacks would stop only while the children were pregnant. "His younger daughter told of the frightening habit her father had of putting her head next to the flames of their gas fire and that when she struggled to get away on certain occasions she burnt her eyes," Nicholas Campbell QC, prosecuting, told the court. They were kept out of school when their injuries were visible, and the family moved repeatedly to avoid suspicion. The girls´ mother left home in the early 1990s; a brother also lived with them until his teens.
The court heard that in 1988 suspicions were raised at the victims´ school due to their injuries but these were blamed on bullying. On one occasion one of the women was asked by a doctor if her father was the father of her own children, which she flatly denied. They also called Childline, the court was told, and asked for a guarantee that their children would not be taken away, but hung up when this assurance could not be given.
Sentencing, Judge Alan Goldsack QC said: "The phrase ´it is difficult to imagine a worse case´ is much overused and rarely, if ever, true. But I can say that in nearly 40 years of dealing with criminal cases and 14 as a family judge the combination of aggravating circumstances here is the worst I have come across."
Ludlam said: "Due to the seriousness of this case an independent review has already been launched which will look into the circumstances surrounding the case and the contact the agencies had with the victims."
Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is
There are no words to decribe adequately what a monster this man is. How did this escape the attention of so many people?
That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?
That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?
I mean doctors, teachers etc etc Surely someone in authority would questions why the girls were have so many children with out a father so to speak, and what about all the abortions they had between them? This is what puzzles me. They could easily not be noticed by neighbours when they were moved around regularly, and of course in some places people don´t even know their neighbours let along notice what they are getting up to.
The whole situation is dreadfully sad and I hope these girls and their children can move on with their lives.
A father who made his two daughters pregnant 19 times during almost 30 years of repeated rape and physical abuse was given 25 life sentences last night, and will serve a minimum of 19-and-a-half-years in prison. The man, who cannot be named to protect the identity of his daughters, fathered nine children with them, two of whom died at birth. The other 10 pregnancies were miscarried or terminated.
He pleaded guilty last month to 25 counts of rape, dating from the early 1980s and continuing until this year, when the terrified women finally mustered the courage to seek help.
Pure evil, I still can´t believe what a silencer fear is
British charity worker David Brown has been sentenced to 20 years in jail for sexually abusing children in his care at an orphanage he opened in Tirana, Albania, in 2001. Here is footage of Brown, a charity worker from Edinburgh and an evangelical Christian, taken from videos made to promote the work of the orphanage, which he called His Children
The same thing that has happened all through history Alameda. The big difference now is that it is SPOKEN ABOUT (in most countries) and people are convicted of these vile acts.
That´s the thing. People choose not to see such things because it´s easier to live in ignorance. How many of you would call the police if you suspected something was wrong with your neighbours. How many would react hearing a fight next door or seeing a parent shake or beat their child in the street?
Thank goodness there are people like you who dont worry about causing offence where such things are concerned
(The rest of the offence you cause is inexcusable)
OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone. I did just that tonight, on the way home from the Gym........... a man lying on the footpath, his bike by his side, so I go to the nect junction and turn around. I pull up beside the man, and wind down my window, "what is wrong " I shout, " have you had an accident" he is holding his head with the most vacant look on his face, and then I notice the mobile phone in his hand..................... I suddenly realised he is not on this planet, he was so high on drugs I am sure he did now know which planet he was on either! At least I could drive on knowing that I had not left a man that could have been dying.................
OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone. I did just that tonight, on the way home from the Gym........... a man lying on the footpath, his bike by his side, so I go to the nect junction and turn around. I pull up beside the man, and wind down my window, "what is wrong " I shout, " have you had an accident" he is holding his head with the most vacant look on his face, and then I notice the mobile phone in his hand..................... I suddenly realised he is not on this planet, he was so high on drugs I am sure he did now know which planet he was on either! At least I could drive on knowing that I had not left a man that could have been dying.................
Ouh hell that happened to me recently too!!! I left home at 6.30am one morning and a man was lying on the footpath. A woman in front of me stepped over him (!!!). I rushed over to him, mobile in hand, ready to call an ambulance and found he was absolutely high on drugs! I decided against offering him in for tea though, but told him it was a bit cold to lay on concrete and that he should go home!!!
OK, We will carry on the subject of putting your self at risk to help someone.
I must have missed something - carry on from where?
BTW that was a risky thing to do in this day and age.
Well there was a sort of tone in the previous message, and this is not the first time I have put myself in this sort of situation and it wont be the last. I am not one to walk on by.............
Green Party Leader is first ethnic Turk to be elected as a major party political leader in Germany.
"Whether the Obama factor helped or not, the son of a Turkish immigrant – who describes himself as a secular Muslim not averse to the odd glass of vodka – won the leadership of the country´s Green Party this month, shattering a racial barrier that had held sway in post-war Germany for decades."
Whatever his ethnicity, this is a historical moment.
Green Party Leader is first ethnic Turk to be elected as a major party political leader in Germany.
"Whether the Obama factor helped or not, the son of a Turkish immigrant – who describes himself as a secular Muslim not averse to the odd glass of vodka – won the leadership of the country´s Green Party this month, shattering a racial barrier that had held sway in post-war Germany for decades."
Whatever his ethnicity, this is a historical moment.
Yes. Unfortunately because of the political system in Germany I doubt if it will make much difference. ´Many people´ have speculated that his election (Özdemir is his name if I remember correctly) will make it easier for Turkey to enter the EU. However, he is in the stream of people who want Turkey to enter the EU, by having a strict control on the developments there as becoming more transparant, more democratic etc etc. People in Turkey who expect that by the election his person TR will gain more easily access to EU will be disappointed I am afraid!
But it is a really good thing he was elected. Hope he will be able to make the German Turks engage more in politics, so that the tendency of prejudge or even discrimination in Germany will go down. I also hope it has a positive influence on the Netherlands, where recently quite some inhabitants of the city of Rotterdam weren´t happy to see a Maroccan become their major!!
I also hope it has a positive influence on the Netherlands, where recently quite some inhabitants of the city of Rotterdam weren´t happy to see a Maroccan become their major!!
I´m happy with the choice for Aboutaleb! He´s not only more (not exactly) in my political direction than current major Ivo, he´s also much more good-looking!!
Anyone fancy holiday in Benidorm?? They are trying to crack down on anti social behaviour that include having sex on the beach. and putting out towels early to reserve sunbeds!!! I can agree with the humans defacating in the sea and the litter but as for walking on the beach after midnight......... seems a bit extreme........... surely not that many people have sex on the beach???
"BENIDORM council is set to introduce new bylaws governing the use of its beaches.
Under the proposed new rules anyone caught using the beach between the hours of midnight and 07.00 will be fined 750 euros while placing an umbrella on the beach early in the morning in order to reserve a space for later in the day will see fines of 150 euros issued.
The raft of new measures also include a 120 euro fine for playing football or tennis in unauthorised areas and a massive 1,000 euro fine for swimming when the red flag is flying.
People who go to the toilet in the sea or on the beach will be fined 150 euros while those who try to sell goods will have to stump up 300 euros.
Taking glass objects onto the beach or breaking them will incur 750 euro fine and those that allow their animals onto the beach will get hit with a 250 euro punishment.
Normal fishing and fishing with a harpoon will generate fines of 750 and 1,100 euros respectively and the handing out of promotional literature will receive a 300 euro sanction.
Beaches councillor, Josefa Pèrez, said the measures were needed to reduce the amount of litter being left on the beaches and to halt the growing number of parties being held on the beaches."
I´m happy with the choice for Aboutaleb! He´s not only more (not exactly) in my political direction than current major Ivo, he´s also much more good-looking!!
When I heard the news of Rotterdam, I knew it couldn´t be you who was against
I couldn´t get on here yesterday so a day late but December 1st 1955 was the date when Rosa Parks was arrested and fined for failing to give up her seat on a bus to a white person in USA. In those days blacks had to use the rear entrance and sit in the rear seats and give way to whites if the bus was full. Just goes to show how far America has come in a few short years.
A robotic arm refuels while motorists stay in their cars. The robot recognizes the type of car by scanning an affixed sticker and knows exactly where to find the filler cap and what fuel the car takes. Hollands
Hmm..
I wonder what it will do If i dont open the filler cap from inside of the car..
A robotic arm refuels while motorists stay in their cars. The robot recognizes the type of car by scanning an affixed sticker and knows exactly where to find the filler cap and what fuel the car takes. Hollands
Hmm..
I wonder what it will do If i dont open the filler cap from inside of the car..
How does it know if I want regular or premium... I like the concept, since I hate pumping gas. Locally, we have a few gas stations that actually have real people who pump your gas....that´s where all of us lazy people go..
This woman has never worked and her family are also heading in that direction. This make me seeth!!!! (angry smilie) There is always an excuse............... how about get off your lazy ****
This woman has never worked and her family are also heading in that direction. This make me seeth!!!! (angry smilie) There is always an excuse............... how about get off your lazy ****
Yes, I know someone like that. She was a leech when she was in school. You know, you go out and the other never has the money to pay the bill, but they order generous portions for themselves. As things developed, she never had a job. Now she gets income from the gov. She has medical, dental, subsidized housing. It annoys me and others who know her a great deal.
Then, I have another friiend who has worked all her life, she recently had brain cancer and is in a wheelchair. She has tried to get a job, but she really can´t work. She applied for disability, but was turned down! She had to get a lawyer to fight for her benefits, which she paid into for years.
This woman has never worked and her family are also heading in that direction. This make me seeth!!!! (angry smilie) There is always an excuse............... how about get off your lazy ****
I agree, there are people who make the "system" so unfair. I am proud that we have such a system, but people abuse it so badly.
It seems so unfair when you have to work so hard just to pay bills, and the only way you can get the things you want is to save money, while there are people lying about disabilities and have never worked in their lives, who get these things instantly.
I know of a family whose 3 children ALL said they had psychological problems, and were allowed to make their boyfriends their offical "carers" - they get free housing, car, bills paid - everything, plus the boyfriend gets a wage as a carer. They freely admit to everyone that they are just cheating the system.
I moved house recently and noticed my neighbours lawn was always uncut and messy. The next time I went to cut mine, I offered to cut theirs, and did so every time after that. After a few months I learned that none of the family work, the eldest son could easily cut it and is "unemployed", the father is classed as disabled because of "back problems" but sits at a computer all day and night playing games (probably the worst thing you can do for a bad back!) and they had a nice new kitchen delivered and fitted for free a few weeks ago.
I agree, there are people who make the "system" so unfair. I am proud that we have such a system, but people abuse it so badly.
I agree with you and am proud we have a system to help those who need it. It would be nice if we could figure out a way to stop the abuse. I really think there is much less of that than some think. I know another man who couldn´t get his disability, he died waiting.
While I do get annoyed with my "friend" who gets subsidized housing, medical care and all. I would not want to be in her place.
I think the constant being on the dole so to speak has taken a toll on her capabilities. She doesn´t think she can do anything. IOW, she is psychologically and emotionally stunted.
I have known others who got "help", used it well and are now contributing members of society.
Chocolate castle inside a hotel in Shenyang, northeast China´s Liaoning province. The chocolate Castle is made of 213kg black chocolate, 57kg white chocolate and 14kg icing sugar and took 4 chefs 2 months to finish. The 7.3m long, 1.92m wide and 3.38m chocolate castle is considered the largest one in the world.
I am watching this on Channel 4 right now! Women going to the Domincan Republic to find young men!
Not sure what to make of it, the women really look their age and the men look like young boys!
Joanne, 54, has spent £5,000 in a year on holidays to see her 34-year-old resort entertainer boyfriend, Spaghetti, who admits to camera he has more than one girlfriend. Although the resort officially frowns upon its staff romancing tourists, they know love-struck women will keep returning, bumping up profits.
Companies using duduism to bump up profits.....sex sells...it seems
Joanne, 54, has spent £5,000 in a year on holidays to see her 34-year-old resort entertainer boyfriend, Spaghetti, who admits to camera he has more than one girlfriend. Although the resort officially frowns upon its staff romancing tourists, they know love-struck women will keep returning, bumping up profits.
Companies using duduism to bump up profits.....sex sells...it seems
To be honest, I don´t blame the boys one bit! They earn about £20 a week and these "single" women, well past their sell by date are far wealthier than they will ever hope to be, that is why they go for the older woman and not the young slim nubile ones!
............ one comment by Spaghetti when his 54 yr old "girlfriend" was about to leave in a taxi, was "you must be rich to afford a taxi", next sentance "I´m hungry". In other words, do you have any money left?
The 67 yr old who had a 30 yr old boyfriend, would not have sex with him on the first holiday, or the second holiday, but then went back again and spent the week with him "24/7" as she said, warts and all!!
They (women) said, don´t judge us............ but sadly all I can see is a couple of women desparate for company, so they go the the Dominican to find that company.......... they would not find a 30 yr old in the UK who would be willing to sleep with a 67 yr old.
I think we all understand the "whys" and we know that those workers are poorly paid. However, we only have to glance at the translation forum to see that this is not always a nice mutual "transaction"!!!
If those women just wanted some fun, then fine. Unfortunately, many of the women are more vulnerable and they actually believe these men/boys love them and end up being conned out of money.
I think we all understand the "whys" and we know that those workers are poorly paid. However, we only have to glance at the translation forum to see that this is not always a nice mutual "transaction"!!!
If those women just wanted some fun, then fine. Unfortunately, many of the women are more vulnerable and they actually believe these men/boys love them and end up being conned out of money.
But this is a programme about women going to the Domincan Republic not Turkey!! These women knew exactly what they are getting themselves into. They were not the least bit vulnerable, just desperate.......... sadly
But this is a programme about women going to the Domincan Republic not Turkey!! These women knew exactly what they are getting themselves into. They were not the least bit vulnerable, just desperate.......... sadly
Sounds pretty much the same to me (I also saw the same kind of thing in Kenya). Its just the geography that is different
Admittedly, the Turks are the BEST at it and the most likely to pretend they are in love
The gaint pandas Tuantuan and Yuanyuan that will be sent to Taiwan play in their house in Yaan. Low reproductive capacity being the main factor endangering the Giant pandas, Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.The two are 4-year old now, and in one or two years later, they can have reproductive plans
But Orangutans for the time being:
Ornagutan Knocks up three
Male orangutan , Demo was doing his bit for his endangered species after getting all three of his female zoo companions pregnant. Randy ten-year-old Demo will become a triple super-dad when the mothers all give birth over the next few months. The virile primate is also a jungle toyboy - after systematically working his way through the trio of older orangutans.
The gaint pandas Tuantuan and Yuanyuan that will be sent to Taiwan play in their house in Yaan. Low reproductive capacity being the main factor endangering the Giant pandas, Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.The two are 4-year old now, and in one or two years later, they can have reproductive plans
TheH you are positively obsessed with Pandas! There must be some deep psychological reason for this - now where is Avalon when you want her??
Not to offend any Cajin people here if by chance...I just had your food for the first time and it´s terrible...don´t know what this creole looking things are but not very good.
But this time its horrrrrrrible! I have no idea who the director is! I can make a better idea than that! I can shoot that with a home camera!!!I thibnk he also gained a little weight and he should really choose a lady thats in his league and heiht too! Hossam youre not good looking! stop acting l,ike it@! U have nice songs but....
here its is :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZfdRQYZ7EI
I personally like shoft b´enaya (also in turkey )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFoy18at0lY
omg this one has english subtitles but they translated literally which sounds sooooo stupid! They didnt pu the meaning! I can make a waaaay better translation!
and assebal la2 (also ij Turkey)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN8JwqTcILk
i really really like the direction of thos one and its ideas, notice the bride and groom dancing lol, and the bride has that red ribbon tied around her waist, tahst what thed on turkey right? lol
i loove this one, but his voice is horrible here and he looks horrible too, but the idea is really nice
One small step for bears, a giant leap for Cambridge outreach It´s not often that the UK can claim a win in the space race but on Monday two teddy bears drifted nearly 20 miles above Earth to become the first soft toys to take part in extra-vehicular activity at such an altitude. The cuddly toys MAT and KMS, named after the first initials of the pupils who helped make their space suits, were strapped to a beam attached to a foam-padded box containing instrumentation and cameras. After rising to an altitude of around 100,000ft, a webcam caught their ´space-walk´ for posterity before the helium balloon burst and they fell to Earth before a parachute opened automatically to provide a soft landing. During the 2 hour 9 minute flight the radio on board broadcast the location of the craft to a chase team on the ground. The team predicted the landing site using wind speed data and arrived in time to watch the teddy bears parachute safely back to Earth in a field four miles north east of Ipswich. They landed just 50 miles from their launch pad by Churchill College in Cambridge.
One small step for bears, a giant leap for Cambridge outreach It´s not often that the UK can claim a win in the space race but on Monday two teddy bears drifted nearly 20 miles above Earth to become the first soft toys to take part in extra-vehicular activity at such an altitude. The cuddly toys MAT and KMS, named after the first initials of the pupils who helped make their space suits, were strapped to a beam attached to a foam-padded box containing instrumentation and cameras. After rising to an altitude of around 100,000ft, a webcam caught their ´space-walk´ for posterity before the helium balloon burst and they fell to Earth before a parachute opened automatically to provide a soft landing. During the 2 hour 9 minute flight the radio on board broadcast the location of the craft to a chase team on the ground. The team predicted the landing site using wind speed data and arrived in time to watch the teddy bears parachute safely back to Earth in a field four miles north east of Ipswich. They landed just 50 miles from their launch pad by Churchill College in Cambridge.
Awwwwwwww I saw this on the news yesterday - so cuteeeeeeee (I am glad they used parachutes for their soft landing ) It was part of a scheme where Cambridge are working with children to increase their interest in science.
ISTANBUL - Monster, the world’s largest online career firm operating in 52 countries with 5,000 employees, opened in Turkey.
The U.S.-based firm renewed its Turkey Web site, www.monster.com.tr, within the framework of its "Developing Markets Strategy."
"We are looking forward to developing the recruitment processes in Turkey as well as aiming a rapid growth in this market," John Hyland, managing director of Monster’s Developing Markets division, said in Istanbul.
"The significant increase in foreign investments in Turkey during the past years has created a wide range of career opportunities. This is one of the aspects that encouraged us to launch our Turkey operation," said Hyland, who is also vice president of Monster Worldwide.
"Turkey’s unique location that connects Europe and the Middle East, the increasing usage of the latest mobile and Internet technologies in the country and its growing economy have attracted us to enter the market," he added.
A new approach "Parallel to rising computer usage and the rapid growth in the number of Internet subscribers in Turkey, career Web sites create various opportunities. But we aim to bring a new approach to this market," Güray Mert, regional director of Monster Europe Developing Markets, said during the meeting. "We believe that job seekers are more than a resume. We are looking into creating an efficient and quality labor market," he added.
"We are aware that ’human’ is the most valuable capital. We will assist companies in finding the quality talents," Mert told journalists.
While there are currently 250 companies in the portfolio of Monster Turkey, the firm targets to reach 1,000 companies by the end of this year.
"Our target for 2009 is to have at least one million job seekers joined in the Monster Turkey network," said Mert. Monster’s 2007 turnover stood at $1.3 billion.
The gaint pandas Tuantuan and Yuanyuan that will be sent to Taiwan play in their house in Yaan. Low reproductive capacity being the main factor endangering the Giant pandas, Tuantuan and Yuanyuan have to practise their reproductive ability twenty minutes per day.The two are 4-year old now, and in one or two years later, they can have reproductive plans
Awww I remember seeing these pictures in a newspaper a while ago....enchanting They just don´t look REAL!
Awwwwwww but isn´t it beautiful? Its so great to see them living in their natural habitat in China. The paws on that one "sledging" in the snow look like a soft toy!
When you see them in the snow (and up the tree) you can see why they have that colouring - they are almost disguised
A Scottish judge recently bent the law to benefit a polygamous household.
The case involved a Muslim male who drove 64 miles per hour in a 30 mph zone - usually grounds for an automatic loss of one´s driving license. The defendant´s lawyer explained his client´s need to speed: "He has one wife in Motherwell and another in Glasgow and sleeps with one one night and stays with the other the next on an alternate basis. Without his driving license he would be unable to do this on a regular basis." Sympathetic to the polygamist´s plight, the judge permitted him to retain his license.
Last night watching CNN...which I can´t stand... I heard one of the reporters say something that caught my attention. They were referring to this woman as being "snarky". Obviously, this word is used more often..thanks GG for expanding on our voc.
Last night watching CNN...which I can´t stand... I heard one of the reporters say something that caught my attention. They were referring to this woman as being "snarky". Obviously, this word is used more often..thanks GG for expanding on our voc.
My pleasure. It does seem to have become a quite popular word on TC!!! Hmmm maybe this CNN reporter is a secret member.
But my favorite part was another member trying to help and saying........"All i know on this is Seni çok seviyorum is I love you so much"
Haha! Just reminded me of what caught my eye yesterday! There´s a walkway along and around the edge of the harbour where people can fish from and its also where the Turkish teenagers tend to hang out in the evenings. There is lots of graffitti on the wall (thankfully the only place you will find any in the town!) and the one that caught my eye was:
mehtap seni çok seviyorummiyorum - aww another doomed romance
Haha! Just reminded me of what caught my eye yesterday! There´s a walkway along and around the edge of the harbour where people can fish from and its also where the Turkish teenagers tend to hang out in the evenings. There is lots of graffitti on the wall (thankfully the only place you will find any in the town!) and the one that caught my eye was:
mehtap seni çok seviyorummiyorum - aww another doomed romance
Thats soo creative!
lool! here in Cairo we go"look! This wall doesnt have any grffitii on it!"
looooooooooooooool
just kidding, but i hate graffiti especially one sthat rea in pretty places!
One thougth going through my mind-..... "Mehtap! What did you do!"
I will assume this was the GREEN LIGHT I have been waiting for all those months!!
DD..I am on my way to Ireland right now..
I´d wait a bit, heard it´s dark on your island. you might get lost and end at Elisabeth´s doorsep instead (and that might mean returning all those laptops she´s been sending you)
Two pigeons were found carrying a cell phone and a battery on their backs in a prison in the northwestern province of Bartýn on Saturday. Prison guards at Bartýn Prison discovered two pigeons in the prison courtyard with a cell phone and a battery taped to their backs. Prison officials said the pigeons were apparently too tired to fly any further with the items. The Bartýn Public Prosecutor´s Office has launched an investigation to find the would-be recipient of the cell phone. The pigeons are currently being kept at the prison.
Two pigeons were found carrying a cell phone and a battery on their backs in a prison in the northwestern province of Bartýn on Saturday. Prison guards at Bartýn Prison discovered two pigeons in the prison courtyard with a cell phone and a battery taped to their backs. Prison officials said the pigeons were apparently too tired to fly any further with the items. The Bartýn Public Prosecutor´s Office has launched an investigation to find the would-be recipient of the cell phone. The pigeons are currently being kept at the prison.
Source: Zaman
I warned Lis that this would be too risky to send cell phones to her dudus like this. Apparently, she didn´t listen...She can be quite persistent...
More: And when we stand before God, and you are sent to paradise for doing according to your conscience, and I am damned for not doing according to mine, will you come with me, for fellowship?
Cranmer: So those of us whose names are there are damned, Sir Thomas?
More: I don´t know, your grace.
I HAVE NO WINDOW TO LOOK INTO ANOTHER MAN´S CONSCIENCE.
I condemn no one.
Cranmer: Then the matter is capable of question?
More: Certainly.
Cranmer: But that you owe obedience to your king is not capable of question. So weigh a doubt against a certainty — and sign.
More: Some men think the earth is round, other think it flat; it is a matter capable of question. But if it is flat, will the king´s command make it round? And if it is round, will the king´s command flatten it? No, I will not sign.
Where government is the big brother, privacy gives way to surveillance.
Two pigeons were found carrying a cell phone and a battery on their backs in a prison in the northwestern province of Bartýn on Saturday. Prison guards at Bartýn Prison discovered two pigeons in the prison courtyard with a cell phone and a battery taped to their backs. Prison officials said the pigeons were apparently too tired to fly any further with the items. The Bartýn Public Prosecutor´s Office has launched an investigation to find the would-be recipient of the cell phone. The pigeons are currently being kept at the prison.
What caught my eye today are the river sof blood in the streets!(Not to mention the smell!)
Today we did the whole sacrifice thingy, w were supposed to yesterday but we said wed do it with our grandma, and our grandma was sacrificing a cow,a nd she got the cow from this place in the country side (where the cows are supposedly healthier)
so teh cow came today, it was sos ad!
]I cried and my cousin laughed at me!
You have no idea what they do!
First the tie the cows´ feet, front first then back, then if it doesnt fall tot he florr , (wish it does by the wya) the push it, and the poor thing knows its fate and keeps like moving and stuff, then they slit its neck,a nd this fountain of blood spurts out! and teh thing is moving at tehs ame time! And the blood just keeps on gushing and gushing! and then they start the cutting up process, after that we killed the sheep.
My cousin i s afreshman in medical school this year, he keeps showing off too, oh this is the blah blah blah and this si the blah blah, how he got into medical school i dont know! He didnt even study! He was out playing ball in the street the whole time!
He actually took the lungs of the sheep and (while they were all bloody and stuff) blew in them, and they inflated and omg theyre HUGE!!! but ti was soooo sickening his whole face was blood!
But thats him, he has a picture of himself witha corpse on his mobile, he wwas in a morgue, and hes holding the poor guys hands and his guts are all out!
Anyway, while they wre killing the sheep 9i man after) The guy blows between its skin and its
meat, so the whole thing was liek a balloon! Then he keeps hitting it and it amkes this rubbery sound! then he take sthe skin off.
Anyway, when you kill a sheep (or cow or whatever) youre supposed to give 1/3 away, a 1/3 to family and relatives and a 1/3 to yourself, if you only saw the amount of poor people on the street, tehy sit on the side walks and everything,a nd while youre butchering they come an dkeep begging, and its soo annoying becasue its like cant us ee its still being killed?
Anyway, you know if you touch the emat after it was cut its rally hot! From the animals body heat
If im goign to talk about this topica nd what happened today then ill never stop so what iw rote is already waaaaaaaay too much!
What caught my eye today are the river sof blood in the streets!(Not to mention the smell!).....
The subject was grusome (particularly as a vegetarian!), the grammar was appalling, the spelling terrible......but for some reason this post was sooooo entertaining!
Doudi it was a masterpiece! You seem to manage to make me smile, even when you write about such a horrrible thing. I adore the way you write in a conversational way as if you are gossiping to us!
Both in their 40´s and separated from their husbands, Terry and Debbie are no longer looking for love in their home town. With Terry´s 50th birthday imminent, the pair head off with their famlies to enjoy the delights of southern Turkey - primary among these being the young men they can meet in the region´s resorts.
Both in their 40´s and separated from their husbands, Terry and Debbie are no longer looking for love in their home town. With Terry´s 50th birthday imminent, the pair head off with their famlies to enjoy the delights of southern Turkey - primary among these being the young men they can meet in the region´s resorts.
Could be interesting viewing!!
oooohh very interesting I think their story was in paper a while ago
what´s worse they are training their daughters to be the same
The commentator is rather lacking in facts too.... "Turkey is a STRICTLY muslim country.....men are unable to have sex with Turkish women before marriage...."
I think, instead of discussing about prescribing free drugs for drug addicts (to protect the public), they should think prescribing these women rabbits so that, maybe , some of them wont behave like that and their childeren will be less neglected
I think, instead of discussing about prescribing free drugs for drug addicts (to protect the public), they should think prescribing these women rabbits so that, maybe , some of them wont behave like that and their childeren will be less neglected
Hmmm its ok for us WOMEN to call them digusting mothers, but for some reason it bothers me when you do it..... I start to think, where are the fathers then?
I think, instead of discussing about prescribing free drugs for drug addicts (to protect the public), they should think prescribing these women rabbits so that, maybe , some of them wont behave like that and their childeren will be less neglected
god this man has just saved the NHS millions......no need for the morning after.....hiv tests and treatments.......unwanted pregnancies
god this man has just saved the NHS millions......no need for the morning after.....hiv tests and treatments.......unwanted pregnancies
well..Not only NHS..think about the enviromental effect of it..these women will be traveling less and there will be less polution and cheaper air flights..!!
well..Not only NHS..think about the enviromental effect of it..these women will be traveling less and there will be less polution and cheaper air flights..!!
Ah - cheaper air flights........I can go with that........
We can do anything if we can justify it resulting in cheaper air flights
Disgusting, hard nosed, ignorant women having sex with disgusting, hard nosed opportunist men
They both deserve eachother
Well I have to agree with you on this one! I was disgusted (and I am a liberal thinker!) that those women were openly having sex with their children´s full knowledge................ the 11 year old boy will certainly grow up with "issues".
Dicussing having sex with her daughter (17), Debbie (47) did not seem to think that "catching" something might be a problem as her daughter gets herself "checked out" at college on a regular basis. I was horrified at this casual attitude.
Hmmm its ok for us WOMEN to call them digusting mothers, but for some reason it bothers me when you do it..... I start to think, where are the fathers then?
Did you not catch the fact that both women were also married................. to Turkish Men (sorry............ boys!) one was 23, but both of them were separated, although Terry got back with hers.
These women are predators and their pray were the every willing Turkish boys. No wonder they are all so skinny with nicely toned stomachs
Dicussing having sex with her daughter (17), Debbie (47) did not seem to think that "catching" something might be a problem as her daughter gets herself "checked out" at college on a regular basis. I was horrified at this casual attitude.
I suspect that it is a bit of a generation thing.......a 47 year old would have grown up through the 1970´s and things were very different then - like sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous! Perhaps Debbie just hasn´t changed her attitudes with the times.......
Motor neurone sufferer Craig Ewert, 59, from North Yorkshire, switches off his ventilator at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland. Craig is shown turning off his ventilator, drinking a sedative and passing away peacefully during his assisted suicide.
The retired university professor, of Harrogate, took the decision to end his life as his illness rapidly paralysed his body, rather than enduring an agonising, lengthy death and becoming a living tomb .
I heard something on the radio this morning on the way to work about there being a large amount of controversy about this being screened on UK television........I don´t quite understand why - people have the choice to watch it or otherwise.
I heard something on the radio this morning on the way to work about there being a large amount of controversy about this being screened on UK television........I don´t quite understand why - people have the choice to watch it or otherwise.
I think it must only affect deeply religious people, who believe that it is better to suffer in pain than commit the "sin" of ending it...
Motor neurone sufferer Craig Ewert, 59, from North Yorkshire, switches off his ventilator at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland. Craig is shown turning off his ventilator, drinking a sedative and passing away peacefully during his assisted suicide.
The retired university professor, of Harrogate, took the decision to end his life as his illness rapidly paralysed his body, rather than enduring an agonising, lengthy death and becoming a living tomb .
Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary? The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.
Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary? The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.
Absolutely I agreee with you. it made me feel sick too:S
Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary? The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.
It was on the first page of theindependent today..
Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary? The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.
Ok, each to their own, but why are the photos necessary? The information is surely enough. To be honest they make me feel rather sick knowing this man is about to die.
I am failing to understand this........the pictures themselves were not particularly shocking - only a man with medical tubes around his face. The shock factor is ´knowing´ that he is about to die and that has nothing directly to do with the pictures.
I suspect that it is a bit of a generation thing.......a 47 year old would have grown up through the 1970´s and things were very different then - like sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous! Perhaps Debbie just hasn´t changed her attitudes with the times.......
Hmm....Debbie, 1970s?? I seem to remember a well-known film from that era!
How can I possibly keep up on the forum when bod is bouncing in here while I´m sleeping in his stripy-shirt, skinny jeans and studded belt trying to keep his numbers up!?!?!?!
I am failing to understand this........the pictures themselves were not particularly shocking - only a man with medical tubes around his face. The shock factor is ´knowing´ that he is about to die and that has nothing directly to do with the pictures.
Yes, that is exactly that, the fact that he was about to die, the look on his face etc ...............
Yes, that is exactly that, the fact that he was about to die, the look on his face
Perhaps I didn´t look closely enough but I didn´t see any terror, pain or anguish on his face! Discomfort yes - but only as much as anyone with all the tubes around and in their face.......
I suspect that it is a bit of a generation thing.......a 47 year old would have grown up through the 1970´s and things were very different then - like sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous! Perhaps Debbie just hasn´t changed her attitudes with the times.......
Well I grew up in the 70´s too and I am pretty liberal, but I would draw the line at condoning a teenage daughter having unprotected sex with a man (boy!) she had only just met, knowing how many women they get through in a holiday season and think that being "screened at college" was enough ................ so in a few months time the daughter is tested positive for HIV then what? All the other sexually transmitted diseases can be cured.
Mind you the mother was probably worse, also having unprotected sex with several men over a period of 5 years and 20 visits to Turkey costing £30,000!! I am clearly in the wrong job and should become a hotel cleaner
And yes, "Debbie" was certainly an appropriate name
Well I grew up in the 70´s too and I am pretty liberal, but I would draw the line at condoning a teenage daughter having unprotected sex with a man (boy!) she had only just met.........
Yes but you have also continued to grow up since the 1970´s.
It seems to me that Debbie is still as immature and irresponsible as she was in the 1970´s.
Hundreds of listings for TV documentary "Turkish Toyboys" on the web today! I particularly liked this extract :-
"Both women, as I mentioned earlier, had previously met and married Turkish men who were half their age and had taken them back to Lancashire with them. Debbie had earlier remarked that Turkish men see English women as being their “ticket to paradise”. How desperately disappointed those men must have been to arrive on the paradise shores of Lancashire permanently tethered to women I would call dogs were it not an insult to dogs.
Debbie’s husband – shock horror – cheated on her with another tourist and Terry’s husband, she said, was a “lying Kurdish git”. As opposed to a whoring English ti* I presume? Catchy rhyme though, I’m sure you’ll agree."
Hundreds of listings for TV documentary "Turkish Toyboys" on the web today! I particularly liked this extract :-
"Both women, as I mentioned earlier, had previously met and married Turkish men who were half their age and had taken them back to Lancashire with them. Debbie had earlier remarked that Turkish men see English women as being their “ticket to paradise”. How desperately disappointed those men must have been to arrive on the paradise shores of Lancashire permanently tethered to women I would call dogs were it not an insult to dogs.
Debbie’s husband – shock horror – cheated on her with another tourist and Terry’s husband, she said, was a “lying Kurdish git”. As opposed to a whoring English ti* I presume? Catchy rhyme though, I’m sure you’ll agree."
There was a boro player called tuncay who chelsea wanted to buy-uy he gave them the finger and proceeded to linger at the boro where they do good fry.....ups.
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What can you do against Tuncay Sanli What can you do against Tuncay Sanli What can you do against Tuncay Sanli Absolutely nothing
I dont know why but somehow, I am feeling a lil bit proud too
They have the same meaning..(you should be proud of yourself that you made me go and check the word niçin in tdk and and also in nisanyan sozluk..-I was not sure if it was a made up word..
it is actually a derivative word from two words ´ ne icin´-
They have the same meaning..(you should be proud of yourself that you made me go and check the word niçin in tdk and and also in nisanyan sozluk..-I was not sure if it was a made up word..
it is actually a derivative word from two words ´ ne icin´-
designed by Dr Gunther von Hagens is being exhibited at the O2 Centre on Finchley Road. It is the first time one of his works has been displayed outside of the exhibition.
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George W. Bush meets with Darfur Human Rights Activist Dr. Halima Bashir in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10
designed by Dr Gunther von Hagens is being exhibited at the O2 Centre on Finchley Road. It is the first time one of his works has been displayed outside of the exhibition.
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George W. Bush meets with Darfur Human Rights Activist Dr. Halima Bashir in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10
He looks a bit scared
omg theres a lady under that thing!, whers hr ace? where´re her eyes??? Shes sitting in sucha wierd pose, loooool, i bet she was wearing her finest sheets!
omg theres a lady under that thing!, whers hr ace? where´re her eyes??? Shes sitting in sucha wierd pose, loooool, i bet she was wearing her finest sheets!
She was the victim of terrible violence in Darfur. She is wearing this to protect herself, so no one will know what she looks like.
I am a sucess story of this kind of diet.....the diet never advocates this amount of water intake but it does recommend at least 2-3 litres A DAY. Like anything people will always go to extremes, the consequences are devastating..very sad
give such movies to quiet bbrainless sheep and you have a control over them. create a great history for them, feed them with pride and you ll get a bunch zombies to do everything you want.
Men, there is way you can get your presents wrapped for your wife - you never have to do it again. No................. not at Ann Summers, beautifully wrapped undies or expensive perfume from Debenhams.
There is a company in the UK who will "crap wrap" it for you. It is authentically wrapped by hamfisted men (fork lift drivers and warehouse men) so you wife will never now the truth!!!!!
Men, there is way you can get your presents wrapped for your wife - you never have to do it again. No................. not at Ann Summers, beautifully wrapped undies or expensive perfume from Debenhams.
There is a company in the UK who will "crap wrap" it for you. It is authentically wrapped by hamfisted men (fork lift drivers and warehouse men) so you wife will never now the truth!!!!!
Lynn & Jamie Parks give new meaning to the words "going the distance." This husband and wife running-team have competed in 170 races (including several marathons) and run more than 12,000 miles together. And for all of those miles, Jamie has pushed Lynn in a wheelchair.
Lynn & Jamie Parks give new meaning to the words "going the distance." This husband and wife running-team have competed in 170 races (including several marathons) and run more than 12,000 miles together. And for all of those miles, Jamie has pushed Lynn in a wheelchair.
It does show dedication, but it also begs the question........why???
It does show dedication, but it also begs the question........why???
Because they used to run together before her accident. After the accident he wanted to stop running because he did not want to be away from her. She did not want him to stop so he started running with her and it gave her back a bit of normalcy.
George W. Bush meets with a large blanket in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10. Mr. Bush looks worried that he won´t get a pillow so he can take his nap!
George W. Bush meets with a large blanket in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington on December 10. Mr. Bush looks worried that he won´t get a pillow so he can take his nap!
Indian Railways has a total state monopoly on India´s rail transport. It is one of the largest and busiest rail networks in the world, transporting eighteen million passengers daily and more than two million tonnes of freight daily.
Indian Railways has a total state monopoly on India´s rail transport. It is one of the largest and busiest rail networks in the world, transporting eighteen million passengers daily and more than two million tonnes of freight daily.
Actually, in Pakistan they use toyota pick ups alot for transportation.
Once, I saw 43 people on a single toyota pick-up..
OMG....that´s hilarious. I take it they have no seat belt law there. People joke here about the Mexicans finding the most practical economical form of transportation. You tend to see a honda civic packed full of people. Oh, and don´t forget the neon lights under the car...
and its the fault of british colonialism and imperialism, if not them built the railways, there would be no overcrowded trains.
Quoting thehandsom
Indian Railways has a total state monopoly on India´s rail transport. It is one of the largest and busiest rail networks in the world, transporting eighteen million passengers daily and more than two million tonnes of freight daily.
OMG....that´s hilarious. I take it they have no seat belt law there. People joke here about the Mexicans finding the most practical economical form of transportation. You tend to see a honda civic packed full of people. Oh, and don´t forget the neon lights under the car...
dont be so hidious ... what for do you need a seat belt? you ll just softly bump into someones bum
and what about neon lights unders the car? i dont get it.
no, just that our modest queent is showing an interest in young handsome turks
And you are like the neighborhood old woman, watching everyone´s comings and goings....you bed bed Borat! But now she is looking at SweetKisses...wonder what that is all about?
And you are like the neighborhood old woman, watching everyone´s comings and goings....you bed bed Borat! But now she is looking at SweetKisses...wonder what that is all about?
Blind man´s guide dog barred from restaurant for offending Muslims
Alun Elder-Brown, a recruitment executive, said he was left feeling "like a piece of dirt" after being barred from bringing the animal into Kirthon Restaurant in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, on religious grounds.
Thousands of Muslims Attack Another Church in Egypt
Egypt -- Thousands of Muslims, who were angered by Copts celebrating mass in the Zagazig Diocese´s Hospitality Hall on 10th December, gathered in the village of Kafr Farag Guirgis, in an attempt to attack the building. The Muslim mob, which also included those from nearby villages, was armed with fire balls and gasoline bottles. The security forces had to intervene to contain the situation -- they closed the building and are still surrounding it.
The more than 1300 Copts living in the village and who make up for more than 50% of the total inhabitants have no church to pray in, while the Muslims have four mosques. For over 12 years the Copts were celebrating mass in a place of around 100 square meters with no water or amenities. As the roof of that place became unsafe, they went to celebrate mass in the hall of the nearby newly built building for social services and hospitality, belonging to the Diocese of Zagazig. This angered the Muslims.
A church deacon who was present during the incident told ´Coptic News´ that the people in the building did not want to leave the place and he added: "Our Coptic Church was built with the blood of martyrs, and we were ready to stay inside the building and be killed, however, we received orders from higher Church authorities to evacuate the place."
Coptic lawyer Ashraf Edward said that it is now imperative to pass the law for the ´Uniformity of the Construction of Places of Worship´ which has been pending for the last sixteen years. He said that a group of Coptic lawyers and himself are now looking into the matter of this pending law from a legal perspective, and that it is now time for action, and not for words.
It is worth noting that a similar incident happened on 23rd November when over 20,000 armed Muslims besieged 1000 Copts praying in the Church of the Virgin Mary in West Ain Shams, Cairo
A church deacon who was present during the incident told ´Coptic News´ that the people in the building did not want to leave the place and he added: "Our Coptic Church was built with the blood of martyrs, and we were ready to stay inside the building and be killed,
Yet another example of the power that religion has to divide people........
Yet another example of the power that religion has to divide people........
this is an orthodox church. copts have a tough life there. once they were the vast majority in egypt but peaceful muslims helped them to become even less than 10%. the same with turkey.
Religion plays no part in my life whatsoever, I just wondered why it always dominates discussions here. You all believe YOU follow the right religions, but it seems they teach you nothing because all they do is cause war and hatred. Some speak of it here, others hide it behind their politically correct comments.
fine by me, as long as it not Daily NationalistMail
I dont think a nationalist daily newspaper exists in the UK does it? However, the Mail and the Express are really the best for scaremongering - you should work there as a writer Femme
I dont think a nationalist daily newspaper exists in the UK does it? However, the Mail and the Express are really the best for scaremongering - you should work there as a writer Femme
i think you over estimate my writing skills , darling. my english was repeatedly criticised by non-native speakers plus, i would have to learn to use better vocabulary (like vineyards).
ae, will you teach me english and how to write an article?
i think you over estimate my writing skills , darling. my english was repeatedly criticised by non-native speakers plus, i would have to learn to use better vocabulary (like vineyards).
ae, will you teach me english and how to write an article?
Five sticks of explosive have been found and made safe in a top Paris department store, French police say.
The Printemps Haussmann store was evacuated and cordoned off, and police directed traffic away from the area.
AFP said it had received a written tip-off signed by a group calling itself the Afghan Revolutionary Front warning of "several bombs" placed in the store.
Officials said the explosives, planted in washrooms on the first and second floors, were not linked to detonators.
"Based on what we know, it was not a device that was set to explode. We are going to carry out an investigation to find the perpetrators," AFP quoted Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie as saying at the scene.
me thinks you wrote this article to the daily truly BBQ, i dont understand it
Quoting TheAenigma
Five sticks of explosive have been found and made safe in a top Paris department store, French police say.
The Printemps Haussmann store was evacuated and cordoned off, and police directed traffic away from the area.
AFP said it had received a written tip-off signed by a group calling itself the Afghan Revolutionary Front warning of "several bombs" placed in the store.
Officials said the explosives, planted in washrooms on the first and second floors, were not linked to detonators.
"Based on what we know, it was not a device that was set to explode. We are going to carry out an investigation to find the perpetrators," AFP quoted Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie as saying at the scene.
after your edition, my article would not be mine anymore but an essay on political correctness
You make me REALLY angry when you say this. You consider ANYONE who does not hate with a fanatical venom like you to be hiding behind political correctness! You may find it hard to believe, but some people REALLY DONT feel the way you do about some topics!!!
You make me REALLY angry when you say this. You consider ANYONE who does not hate with a fanatical venom like you to be hiding behind political correctness! You may find it hard to believe, but some people REALLY DONT feel the way you do about some topics!!!
You are Tam are more alike than you think!
oh, thank you for this comment will be a nice addition to the lunch with bod on a rug
I think everyone had too much to drink in the Translation Lounge last night. I can´t seem to find their lounge maybe. Or maybe the bartender made some bad Yiguns and everyone is sick.
One of the gorillas at Chessington Zoo enjoying some brussel sprouts. Zoo managers at Chessington Zoo have issued an apology to guests after the gorillas were fed a Christmas treat of brussel sprouts. The flatulence-inducing vegetable caused an unpleasant smell that emanated from their enclosure, and it seems it was more than many guests could stomach.
One of the gorillas at Chessington Zoo enjoying some brussel sprouts. Zoo managers at Chessington Zoo have issued an apology to guests after the gorillas were fed a Christmas treat of brussel sprouts. The flatulence-inducing vegetable caused an unpleasant smell that emanated from their enclosure, and it seems it was more than many guests could stomach.
OMG - that has put me off my morning coffee and biscuits!!!
I did once.....but it was sooooooo hard! No dudu translations, no hostile fights, no fury boots or leg warmers, everyone was nice to me.....I couldn´t take it!
About 12 youths on motorcycles set fire to a police bus in the centre of Athens [AFP]
Protesters have hung two giant banners on the Acropolis in Athens, with slogans calling for mass demonstrations across Europe, after days of violent protests sparked by the fatal police shooting of a teenager in the Greek capital.
About a dozen protesters held the pink banners over the walls of the ancient citadel, Greece´s most famous monument, with one bearing the word "resistance" written in large black letters in Greek, English, Spanish and German.
Evangelos Antonaros, a government spokesman, said: "There can be no justification for this action. This hurts the image of our country abroad ... it is unacceptable."
The banners were taken down after two hours.
Further student demonstrations are already planned on Thursday in Athens and Thessaloniki, Greece´s second largest city, to protest against the December 6 killing of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos.
The riots that followed the teenager´s death are the worst Greece has seen in decades, feeding off widespread dissatisfaction with the unpopular conservative government and anger over social inequality and economic hardship.
Hundreds of shops and banks have been smashed, torched or looted as groups of masked and hooded youths rampaged through cities for several nights.
More than 300 people have been detained or arrested during the violence.
Bus torched
Although the rioting has abated, small-scale attacks continue.
About 12 youths on motorcycles set fire to a police bus in the centre of Athens on Wednesday. The driver managed to escape the fire and no one was hurt.
About 40 protesters also occupied the offices of the GSEE, Greece´s largest labour union.
Yiannis Panagopoulos, the GSEE leader, said: "I believe they have chosen the wrong target... The GSEE does not govern this country. So it´s wrong to undermine the labor unions."
In Thessaloniki, police said a bank and a local citizens´ advice office were firebombed before dawn on Wednesday in attacks that caused damage but no injuries.
Greece´s opposition socialists have accused the government of mishandling the crisis and worsening the effects of the global economic downturn.
The socialists are calling for of Costas Karamanlis, the prime minister, to resign and call new elections, a demand he has rejected.
Meanwhile, officials at Athens international airport said that all flights will be halted between 10:00 and 13:00 GMT on Thursday because of a strike by air traffic controllers.
Olympic Airlines, the state-run national carrier, said it would cancel 30 flights, mostly domestic, and reschedule another 14 services.
Air traffic controllers are joining protests by the GSEE, which is planning a rally in central Athens to demand pay raises and greater job protection.
(guardian.co.uk) Do we imagine that anyone vaguely knowing these people would forgive their murderers?
"America´s chickens are coming home to roost! Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred and terrorism begets terrorism."
By Paul J. Balles
Thirty-nine women and children and eight teenagers at a wedding could hardly be mistaken for militants. Yet that´s what the U.S. military said about the 47 civilians murdered in an air strike in Afghanistan (BBC 11/07/08). Do we imagine, for a minute, that anyone vaguely knowing these people would forgive their tormentors and murderers?
When a superior officer ordered three of his U.S. marines not to take time to process the prisoners according to the rules, the threesome took turns blowing their prisoners’ brains out in Fallujah in 2004 (Los Angeles Times 11/07/08).
How many of us would seriously think that stories of these atrocious misdeeds weren’t broadcast by word of mouth through all of the Arab and Islamic worlds?
"We did a study on 3,000 children in Gaza," says, Dr Eyad al Saraj, a child psychologist. "45 per cent of them said the worst thing they have witnessed was the beating of their fathers by the Israeli soldiers. That was the symbol of security and power for them and it was shattered."
Is it any wonder that these children grow up finding new symbols of power in the model of the man with the Kalashnikov?
After the U.S. media reported Reverend Jeremiah Wright´s sermon as an example of a bad influence on Barack Obama, few people wanted to face the truth of what Wright said about the chickens coming home to roost:
We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to payback for the attack on our embassy. We killed hundreds of hard-working people; mothers and fathers who left home to go that day, not knowing that they would never get back home. We bombed Hiroshima! We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye!
Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children after school, civilians – not soldiers – people just trying to make it day by day. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant? Because the stuff we have done overseas has now been brought back into our own front yards! America´s chickens are coming home to roost! Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred and terrorism begets terrorism.
How many Americans are ready to admit that 9/11 was a crime of our own making?
Paul Craig Roberts, former U.S. underecretary of the Treasury says: "America’s brutal crimes against the Muslim world have invited every Muslim to become a law unto himself – a revolutionary. It is not terror that Washington confronts but revolution."
Here´s a “chickens come home to roost” theme in Roberts´ view after the carnage in Mumbai. Roberts describes the provocation to terror well, and his analysis bears repeating:
The attack on Mumbai required radical individuals. These people resulted from the U.S. overthrowing the elected government in Iran and imposing the Shah [the faux Shah Pahlavi]; from the U.S. stationing troops in Saudi Arabia; from the U.S. invading and attempting to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq, bombing weddings, funerals and children’s soccer games; from the U.S. violating international and U.S. law by torturing its Muslim victims; from the U.S. enlisting Pakistan in its war against the Taliban; from the U.S. violating Pakistan’s sovereignty by conducting military operations on Pakistani territory, killing Pakistani civilians; from the U.S. government supporting a half century of Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their lands, towns and villages; from the assault of American culture on Muslim values; from the U.S. purchasing the government of Egypt to act as its puppet; from U.S. arrogance that America is the supreme arbiter of morality.
Military interrogator Matthew Alexander´s reactions to abuses of prisoners are revealing of the policies and practices that lead to resistance. According to experts on terror, inhumane treatment produces nothing of any value; it leads only to hatred and a desire for revenge.
I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of human bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It´s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our programme of detainee abuse.
How do we expect the family, friends, relatives and members of the tribes of the victims of our policies and practices to react?
Call it what you will – chickens coming home to roost, revolution, resistance, victims – but don’t dismiss the arrogant immorality of brutalizing the world as someone else’s evil.
-- Paul J. Balles is a retired American university professor and freelance writer who has lived in the Middle East for many years. For more information, see pballes.com. This article appeared in Redress Information & Analysis.
EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".
EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".
EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".
female genital mutilation supposedly did not originate as an islamic thing, but today mainly islamic countries still practice it. no doubt that strict religious lives keep people and countries backwards.
I am glad that there are people in Egypt who are finally trying to end this horrible practice.
female genital mutilation supposedly did not originate as an islamic thing, but today mainly islamic countries still practice it. no doubt that strict religious lives keep people and countries backwards.
I am glad that there are people in Egypt who are finally trying to end this horrible practice.
Wrong. almost half of the countries in where female cirumsition is practiced have a christian majority.
"Genital mutilation is practiced in 25 countries in central Africa, ranging from Somalia in the east coast and stretching westward to Senegal on the Atlantic. The rite is believed to have originated more than two thousand years ago in Egypt or the Horn of Africa (what is now Eritrea, Djibouti, Ethiopia, and Somalia). The World Health Organization estimates that more than 130 million women have undergone the procedure. Although it is most often associated with Islam, it is also practiced by Christians, adherents to traditional African religions, and one Jewish sect."
Amnesty International estimates that over 130 million women worldwide have been affected by some form of FGM, with over 2 million procedures being performed every year. FGM is mainly practiced in African countries. It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Ethiopia on the East coast, as well as from Egypt in the north to Tanzania in the south; see Map. It is also practiced by some groups in the Arabian peninsula. The country where FGM is most prevalent is Egypt, followed by Sudan, Ethiopia, and Mali. Egypt recently passed a law banning FGM.[31]
Map: Estimated Prevalence of Female Genital Cutting (FGC) in Africa. Data based on uncertain estimates.
Whilst FGM is widely practiced out in the open by Africans of varied faiths, it is practiced in secrecy in some parts of the Middle East. In the Arabian peninsula, Types I and II FGM is usually performed, often referred to as Sunna circumcision especially among Afro-Arabs (ethnic groups of African descent are more likely to prefer infibulation). The practice occurs particularly in northern Saudi Arabia, southern Jordan, and northern Iraq[citation needed]. In the Iraqi village of Hasira, a recent study found that 60 percent of the women and girls reported having undergone FGM[citation needed]. Before the study, there had been no solid proof of the prevalence of the practice. There is also circumstantial evidence to suggest that FGM is practiced in Syria, western Iran, and southern Turkey.[32] In Oman, a few communities still practice FGM; however, experts believe that the number of such cases is small and declining annually. In the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, it is practiced mainly among foreign workers from East Africa and the Nile Valley.
The practice can also be found among a few ethnic groups in South America. In Indonesia, the practice is not uncommon among the country´s rural women; almost all are Type I or Type IV, the latter usually involving the pricking of blood release. Sometimes the procedures are merely symbolic, and no actual cutting is done.[33]
As a result of immigration, the practice has also spread to Europe, Australia and the United States. Some tradition-minded families have their daughters undergo FGM whilst on vacation in their home countries. As Western governments become more aware of FGM, legislation has come into effect in many countries to make the practice of FGM a criminal offense. In 2006, Khalid Adem became the first man in the United States to be prosecuted for mutilating his daughter.
The traditional cultural practice of FGC predates both Islam and Christianity. A Greek papyrus from 163 B.C. mentions girls in Egypt undergoing circumcision and it is widely accepted to have originated in Egypt and the Nile valley at the time of the Pharaohs. Evidence from mummies have shown both Type I and Type III FGC present.[34] While the spread of the practice of FGC is unknown, the procedure is now practiced among Muslims and Animists.
There are differences of opinion among Sunni scholars in regards to female genital cutting. These differences of opinion range from forbidden to obligatory.
Wrong. almost half of the countries in where female cirumsition is practiced have a christian majority.
"Genital mutilation is practiced in 25 countries in central Africa, ranging from Somalia in the east coast and stretching westward to Senegal on the Atlantic. The rite is believed to have originated more than two thousand years ago in Egypt or the Horn of Africa (what is now Eritrea, Djibouti, Ethiopia, and Somalia). The World Health Organization estimates that more than 130 million women have undergone the procedure. Although it is most often associated with Islam, it is also practiced by Christians, adherents to traditional African religions, and one Jewish sect."
Hate to disappoint you dear, but only 7 of the 25 above listed countries are dominant Christian, 3 countries have an almost same percentage Christian / Islam but the other 15 are really Islamic countries. Not that it matters if the mutulation is done by Muslims or Christians, in my view they are all very, very wrong - and that´s an understatement.
Hate to disappoint you dear, but only 7 of the 25 above listed countries are dominant Christian,
That`s the reason why I said "almost half".
You were never good at math, were you? 7/25 = 28%, much less than even ´almost half´. I think your boss will be pleased at you when you accept 28 for almost half your salary....
You were never good at math, were you? 7/25 = 28%, much less than even ´almost half´. I think your boss will be pleased at you when you accept 28 for almost half your salary....
"almost half" can even mean 1 out of 10, because there isn`t a quantitative description of "almost half", and you can`t prove it wrong. you`re not good at rhetoric, are you?
EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".
EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".
à doubt those figures.
The current generations in the Uni of women are almost the third generation where its almost the forth generation of male
So i doubt that percentage between the educated women,and about other figures i dont know how did they get them
Personally no one has asked me about it,nor asked anyone that i know,and they wont dare to ask anyone in the country areas i believe.
So how did they get their figures?!
Still,we sure have a problem about it,and it wont end till people themselves stop believing in it
Law not allowing it,ministry of health not allowing it,Doctors who would do it would face punishment ,but still people who determine on doing it to their daughters find away,and we dont know about it till a tradedy happened !
à believe education is the main solution here with the other tracks efforts.
EGYPT: 97% OF MARRIED WOMEN UNDERGO GENITAL MUTILATION
CAIRO, JUNE 27 - A total 97% of the married Egyptian women has suffered genital mutilation, and the area where this practice is most frequent (99%) is in the governorship of Qena, in the south of the country. In Matrouh, on the Mediterranean coast towards Libya, the lowest percentage (25%) is registered. According to the study ´National Project Against Female Circumcision´, held by the Minister of Health in cooperation with the United Nations DAG Programme, the percentage is lower in the urban centres (94.6%), higher in the country (98.8%), while in the Sinai it decreases to 37%, Egyptian independent daily ´Al Masri el Yom´ reports. Among uneducated women, 99.1% have suffered the circumcision; among educated women (secondary school or university), the percentage gets down to 94%. The percentage of women in favour of the circumcision is 85% in Upper Egypt compared to 50% in the North; 50% of the educated women and 87.5% of the uneducated women are also in favour. Two days ago the Chief Mufti of Egypt said that the "harmful tradition of the female circumcision is prohibited by Islam", after the death of an 11-year old girl following an excessive dose of anesthetic given during the operation. The wife of the Egiptian president, Suzanne Mubarak, who is in charge of the government´s consulting commission for Maternity and Childhood, launched today a "national campaign against female circumcision".
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Interesting....but I wonder about the acuracy of the statistics. It seems the problem is with uneducated, unskilled operation as to when it is called genital mutilation and when it´s called cosmetic surgery.
There seems to be a lot more genital modification in the "West" than many are aware of.
"And yet while Wojcicki and Brin aren´t worried about genetic privacy, others are. In May, President George W. Bush signed a bill that makes it illegal for employers and insurers to discriminate on the basis of genetic information. California and New York tried to block the tests on the grounds that they were not properly licensed, but have so far been unsuccessful. Others worry about how sharing one´s genetic data might affect close relatives who would prefer not to let a family history of schizophrenia or Lou Gehrig´s disease become public. And what if a potential mate demands to see your genome before getting serious? Such hypotheticals are endless. And some researchers argue that the tests are flawed. "The uncertainty is too great," says Dr. Muin Khoury, director of the National Office of Public Health Genomics at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who argues that it is wrong to charge people for access to such preliminary and incomplete data. Many diseases stem from several different genes and are triggered by environmental factors. Since less than a tenth of our 20,000 genes have been correlated with any condition, it´s impossible to nail down exactly what component is genetic. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," says Dr. Alan Guttmacher of the National Institutes of Health."
Interesting....but I wonder about the acuracy of the statistics. It seems the problem is with uneducated, unskilled operation as to when it is called genital mutilation and when it´s called cosmetic surgery.
There seems to be a lot more genital modification in the "West" than many are aware of.
It is the kind of embrace reserved only for new love.
So Paul Weller´s passion for his 23-year-old backing singer must be particularly galling for his former lover Samantha Stock, whom he left just weeks ago.
The 50-year-old singer moved out of the £2million house in West London that he shared with Miss Stock, 38, after falling for Hannah Andrews, who sings on his latest solo album.
Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.
Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this
We had a similar idea in Poland a few years ago when the Christian party was in power. Nothing like that happened fortunately as they had to call new elections in the middle of their cadency - their ratings were that low
A debate is ensuing in the UK as to whether creationismn should be taught in schools.
I wonder if parents will get the option as to whether their children can be excused from those lessons, the same as they can for religious lessons.
How can you teach something where there is no proof (just someones idea) and when there is scientific proof that evolution exists?
This is also a problem in the USA and there´s an ongoing debate about this. It is something that is incomprehensible to me. I love the argument of Christopher Hitchens (one of my favorite British imports )who said something to the effect that if they are going to teach creationism in publicly funded schools, then they also should teach evolution in the tax-exempt churches.
Good point LL - maybe we should also teach that Santa Claus exists and that fairies take your tooth from under your pillow.
Maybe some of our "believers" can answer this
Hey don´t spoil it for all the kiddies...this tradition of lying to your kids have been going on for decades.. Which reminds me years ago when I played fairy my son was getting something out of my cabinet and found some of his teeth. Yes, I saved them. That was difficult to explain. Lie after lie.
The gladiator was a sort of specialized soldier: there were several categories, depending them on the different uniforms, weapons and skills, so every gladiator was easily recognizable by the public; at the origin of all the gladiators categoriesWe have two opposite kind of soldiers: the Tracian ( from the country in the north of the classic Greece), dressed with a light uniform to be faster than the enemy, skilled in agility and fighting techniques; and the Sannita ( from Sannio, a mountainuos country in the center of Italy ), an heavy uniform soldier, trained to fight defending himself, to receive lot of strokes, being ready to counter-attack with few deadly blows; these two classes were born both in the first century before Christ, when both Sannio and Tracia were roman provinces; and they gave origin to subsequent specializations, everyone with some peculiar features. To complete the games there were all a series of others character, not only warriors but also…well, you’ll discover reading this article! So, let’s go and see the most famous gladiator classes!
LIGHT UNIFORM GLADIATORS
THRACIAN
A large number of thracian gladiators arrived at Rome during the Silla dictatorhip, in the first years of the I century b.C.; these warriors, coming from the homonymous Greek region, had been enlisted as mercenaries in the armies of an african king, Mitridate; defeated by Silla, the imprisoned soldiers were sent in Capua, a little town close to Pompeii, where they were trained to fight in the amphitheaters. During the fights they dressed a light uniform, a little helmet, called machaira, light shoes and a little round shield; such a light uniform allowed them to run around the enemies, faster than them, exploiting at the most their weapon, the parna, a short dagger requiring an extreme ability and mobility to be used. In the arena the thracians fought amongst them, or against the Sanniti, soldiers with an heavier uniform, just to have two differents stiles fighting together.
REZIARIUS
The reziarii got their name from the weapon they used: a long net to trap the opponents, klling then him with the fuscina, a trident, their offensive weapon; this technique requires a real ability, and every detail in the reziarius uniform is made to have the better functionality and nimbleness; they got not shield neither helmet and uniform to improve their unforeseeable speed in the fight. The only accessory they used, but for the net and the trident, was the sica, a dagger with which they gave the finishing stroke to their enemies, if the public showed the sadly famous thumbs down.For his highly spectacular fighting technique the reziarius was one of the most popular leading character into the gladiators games.
DIMACHERI
The two short swords, the machairai, these gladiators emploied gave them their name; in this class there’s no defense at all; without shield nor helmet, the only defensive uniform they had was a sort of leather muff on the forearms, to protect them from the strokes; speed was what they used to disorientate the enemies, making them more vulnerable at their swords.
HEAVY UNIFORM GLADIATORS
SANNITA
The war againsts the Sanniti, in the III century b.C., is considered to be the beginning of the roman expansion in the center of Italy; the Sanniti soldiers became the first gladiators to fight in the roman arenas, and likely, according to some historians, the real origin of the games comes from that population (see in this issue: “Sangue e Arena: an Exibition into the Colosseum” ); unlike the Thracians, they got an heavy uniform, a metal plate to protect the chest, a strenghtened helmet with a grid to cover the eyes, a long shield; their weapons was the gladium, a long sword usefel both to defense and to attack; the Sanniti, as well as the Thracian, the two most popular gladiator classes, got their own supporters: the scrutarii, the Sanniti “hooligans”, and the parmularii, the Thracian’ one. And, as in the modern stadiums, it happened sometimes that the opposite supporters engaged a riot, even more cruel that the one in the arena…too bad, not that much in changed since then!
MIRMILLIONI
These gladiators came from the Gallia, the actual French; the name comes from their symbol, a fish ( mirmillio ) they got on the pectorale¸the metal plate they dresses on the chest; their uniform is similar to the Sanniti’s one, but with some differences; they had not the typical sannita griffon carved on the helmet, and the holes in the grids are set in a way that the deadly Reziarius trident tips could not enter; and the reziarius was the classic enemy of the mirmillione
OPLOMACHOS
Another classic enemy of the reziarius, the name oplomachos came from two greek words, oplon macvs, literally, “the heavy- uniform fighter”. The sword they used was longer that the Sannita’s one, with a carved hilt and flat, perfect to attack with cutting blows.
GENERIC GLADIATORS
The “generics” were the gladiators without a particular skill: they were used to fill up the spectacles, when these lasted for all a day, or even more; and of course, their hire was hardly a tenth of the more famous champions’ one!Anyway, some of the generic games were really popular: the Caesariani, for instance, the imperial family guards; or the Catervarii and Pegmarii fights, when a heap of slave soldiers fought in a sort of army; the amusement here was to see the huggest number of killings…
PROVOCATORES
The Provocatores ( “the provocatives” ) opened the duels, just provoking the gladiators to engage the fight; the latin word provocare was used, in militar slang, to indicate the light uniform soldiers, the velites, who opened the battles provoking the enemies with screams and insults.
SESTERZIARII One sesterzio was the really cheap hire of this gladiator class; they were mostly veterans of the army, or even not that trained soldiers drove by the necessity in the arena, looking for a not so easy earnings!
CAESARIANI, or ROSTULATICII
Caesariani are the “heroes” of the arena: their ability and bravery promoted them as the body-guards of the imperial family; sometimes the crowd, seeing them close to the emperor, claim for them; so they have to come back in the stadium, satisfyng the public’s wishes.
CATERVARII
The Catervarii fought in two different groups, made by around 100 hundred soldiers; could you imagine the chaos? The idea was to have a real battle in the arena; so these soldiers, without any skill, fought only to kill the more enemies they could, in a war simulation the Roman enypied a lot! A curiosity: in the roman modern dialect we still use the same latin word, caterva, to say “a lot”!
ESSEDARII
The knights as well fought in the arena; the Essedarii drove an essedum, a Gallic war chariot drawn by two horses; after some skirmish, however, the gladiators finished the fight with an infighting with long swords.
PEGMARII
Sources don’t explain all about the Pegmarii’s fights; probably a tower was built in the middle of the arena ( the greek word for tower is pegma ); so the match was the simulation of a siege, with a group inside, the defensors, and the other outside, the attackers; so the match didn’t have an end since the death of aal the soldiers of a group; this game was really popualr because it could last for entire days – and you know, Romans loved to see a real war in theie stadium…
THE DECADENCE
During the centuries the cast of the gladiator games knew a lot of other characters; their purpose was mainly to amuse the public, usually ridiculing the games themselves; it became famous the fight amongst dwarfs, or amongst rather old fighters; we can say that when the aristocratics, the women, even an Emperor as Commodo started to fight in the arena, the way of the decadence was opened to the originally ritual gladiator games meaning, a first step in the process leading at the death of the stadium itself.
PAEGNARIA
The fight amongst dwarfs were used to fill up the cast since the I century a.C.; they dressed too small uniforms with ridiculous short daggers, not to kill theirselves but just for the public’s amusement.
NOBILES ( noblemen ) And finally the noblemen as well wanted to fight in the arena to increase their prestige; in the traditional roman society the war against the enemies was the place to gain the glory, so the simulate aristocratic wars into the arena are another proof of the decadende in the last centuries of the Empire
FOEMINAE ( women )
As for the noblemen, the presence of women in the arena points at the decadence of the roman society; these women fought against the men, winning sometimes; could you imagine 70.000 spectators busting out laughing all together? Well, that’s what the organizers wanted…
ANDABATI
The andabati knights fight was a caricature of a regular fight; dressing an helmet with no holes for eyes, they fought blindly, drove by the public’ screams and by the hoffs noise; of course – that’s what I suppose – the amusement was in driving the knights on the wrong way…
We know there were lot of other gladiator classes, but the archaeological and literary sources don’t admit us to understand the differences amongst them; so, to know something more about the gladiators, you’d better wait the next archaeological discovery.
About 500 travellers spent Tuesday night at Chicago´s O´Hare airport [Reuters]
Around 30 US road deaths have been blamed on snow and ice storms which have also left hundreds of travellers stranded at airports on Christmas eve.
On Wednesday, Chicago´s O´Hare International airport, the US´s second busiest terminal, was forced to cancel more than 500 flights after an American Airlines plane skidded off the runway.
No one was injured in the incident and all 54 passengers were put on other flights leaving the same evening.
Treacherous weather conditions grounded or delayed flights across the country, with other major airports in San Francisco, Dallas, Boston, New Jersey and New York all reporting serious delays.
In Seattle, Washington, 18 passengers and seven Alaska Airlines crew members received medical treatment after inhaling fumes that leaked into the cabin during de-icing.
Power cuts
Parts of the US also lost power supply in the storms and multiple car accidents were reported across the country - including a Wisconsin car crash that killed a woman and her seven-month-old child.
The US National Weather Service said the northwest of the country, which has already seen near-record levels of snowfall over the past week, was bracing itself for another storm expected to bring up to half a metre of snow.
Almost 64 million Americans are expected to travel over the holiday period, either by road, air or rail.
Meanwhile, in Canada, meteorologists are predicting the first coast-to-coast white Christmas since 1971.
Holiday travellers were also stranded in Vancouver on Wednesday as Air Canada was forced to cancel short and medium-distance flights out of the city because of snow storms.
Another 10 centimetres of snow fell in Vancouver on Wednesday, after the city had been blasted by snow storms two days earlier
It is the kind of embrace reserved only for new love.
So Paul Weller´s passion for his 23-year-old backing singer must be particularly galling for his former lover Samantha Stock, whom he left just weeks ago.
The 50-year-old singer moved out of the £2million house in West London that he shared with Miss Stock, 38, after falling for Hannah Andrews, who sings on his latest solo album.
PMSL I´ve read their entry about Poland and it seems the only good thing in our history is the following fact:
"Poland did, however, save Western Europe from the barbarity of the Ottoman Empire by massacring 300 000 turkish soldiers who were gypsying around the environs of Vienna, looking for work. So they can´t be all bad? Right?"
PMSL I´ve read their entry about Poland and it seems the only good thing in our history is the following fact:
"Poland did, however, save Western Europe from the barbarity of the Ottoman Empire by massacring 300 000 turkish soldiers who were gypsying around the environs of Vienna, looking for work. So they can´t be all bad? Right?"
I love the section Football in the Turkey listing:-
Turkey´s top soccer teams are Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray. However, it is known by the fans of Fenerbahçe that all Turks are born Fenerbahçe fans and die Fenerbahçe fans; it is sometimes due to mental problems that they suddenly start supporting one of the other teams. During the past few years, Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have alternated between the top two spots in the Turkish soccer league. However, there is a conspiracy that a third team, supported by male truck drivers with big-mustaches, exists as well. This team, known to these people as Beþiktaþ, has gotten lower and lower each year within the overall ranks of the Turkish soccer league. A common example of a Beþiktaþ player is Rüþtü, the man who proved himself incapable of saving goals and proved himself able to drag the Turkish national soccer team to defeat in Euro 2008. On the other hand, back when Rüþtü was part of Fenerbahçe in 2002, his mastery of saving goals made many consider him the main reason for the 3rd place Turkish victory.
WOW! If you search the "Uncyclopedia" site for "Turkey" this appears at the top of the page:-
This article has been screened by Türkiye
Yeah, that´s right. We don´t like it anymore than you do. Well, actually they´re paying us $50,000 dollars a day to keep this article biased. So we can´t really complain. What? You think this site runs on magic? Hey...HEY! These are hard economic times we´re living in. Don´t give us that look. Be happy for us. We´re giving those punks at wikipedia a run for their money! Speaking of which, if you support Turkey for the European Union....thanks!
Yeah, that´s right. We don´t like it anymore than you do. Well, actually they´re paying us $50,000 dollars a day to keep this article biased. So we can´t really complain. What? You think this site runs on magic? Hey...HEY! These are hard economic times we´re living in. Don´t give us that look. Be happy for us. We´re giving those punks at wikipedia a run for their money! Speaking of which, if you support Turkey for the European Union....thanks!
Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?
Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?
Hey, I will do it for $40,000 a day.............which makes me a much better bargain than AE!!
Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?
Im sure u like turkey, if you were u wouldnt be here
Seeing this message on a website gave me a thought.... are any Turkish members willing to pay me "50,000 dollars a day" to only say nice things about Turkey?
Ülkenin %99´u çok kültürlü adamlar. Arada üç beþ terbiyesiz çýkýyor da onlar da Ermeni büyük ihtimal.
Culture
99% of the population is very cultured. Sometime you come across a few impolite people but they are possibly armenians anyway.
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Düþmanlar-enemies
Yunanlar - greeks. Ermeniler -armenians Komunistler - comunists Faþistler - fascists Kürtler - Kurds Fransýzlar - French Amerikalýlar - Americans Ruslar - Russians (men are enemy, not women). Ãtalyanlar - italians (cause of strong defence in football) Ãspanyollar - spanis( cause they are cowards as they are running aways from the bulls) Yahudiler - Jews Ãngilizler - brits (because of Leeds United). Araplar - Arabs (cause of Lawrence ) Dominikler - Dominics Almanlar - Germans Çinliler - chineese Zenciler - blacks Homolar - gays Dünyanýn geri kalaný - rest of the world (because they are not Turks)
Bir tek Türkler birbirini sever´-only turks love eachother
Ok now we got rid of that Doudi brat, why not do the same to Girleegirl? Would anyone miss her? We could sell her to that circus gypsy and that way we get another 100 quid, PLUS her cut in the original scam?
Ok now we got rid of that Doudi brat, why not do the same to Girleegirl? Would anyone miss her? We could sell her to that circus gypsy and that way we get another 100 quid, PLUS her cut in the original scam?
Well that´s ok...no one takes him seriously anyway.
Aenigma is this some kind of sick joke? Thehandsom is MINE MINE MINE! He is my sevgilim, my askim, my canim benim...... he would never say such a thing.
Aenigma is this some kind of sick joke? Thehandsom is MINE MINE MINE! He is my sevgilim, my askim, my canim benim...... he would never say such a thing.
Leave him alone you evil Brit.
Ohhh poor AE. This fever has really gotten to you!! Please rush off the the hospital immediately before the brain damage is permanent.
A British mother facing six months in jail in Dubai after being convicted of adultery insists she is innocent.
Marnie Pearce, 39, says she was framed by her ex-husband so he could gain custody of their children, Ziad, four, and Laith, seven. He denies the claim.
The teaching assistant has appealed against her conviction but fears she may never see her children again.
PRO NAZI VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE Hitler appears in a pro Nazi Youtube video. Internet site YouTube has been condemned for showing video clips glorifying murderous Nazi troops. The sickening scenes, accompanied by militaristic music, have drawn millions of hits from potential Nazi sympathisers and voyeurs. YouTube, which hosts film clips from the public, has 2,880 items on the Waffen SS, the most fanatical of Hitler´s soldiers who were indicted for war crimes throughout WW2. The videos, some from Nazi propaganda news reels, have sickened Jewish organisations who have called for YouTube to remove the ´hugely offensive´ postings, including one that features the headline ´Hitler Was Right´ directly below the YouTube logo.
PRO NAZI VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE Hitler appears in a pro Nazi Youtube video. Internet site YouTube has been condemned for showing video clips glorifying murderous Nazi troops. The sickening scenes, accompanied by militaristic music, have drawn millions of hits from potential Nazi sympathisers and voyeurs. YouTube, which hosts film clips from the public, has 2,880 items on the Waffen SS, the most fanatical of Hitler´s soldiers who were indicted for war crimes throughout WW2. The videos, some from Nazi propaganda news reels, have sickened Jewish organisations who have called for YouTube to remove the ´hugely offensive´ postings, including one that features the headline ´Hitler Was Right´ directly below the YouTube logo.
Sick indeed....and scary. The rise in neonazism in Germany is frightening...
PMSL I´ve read their entry about Poland and it seems the only good thing in our history is the following fact:
"Poland did, however, save Western Europe from the barbarity of the Ottoman Empire by massacring 300 000 turkish soldiers who were gypsying around the environs of Vienna, looking for work. So they can´t be all bad? Right?"
that wasnt very funny.
i liked the part where it says that poland is anti-indonesian. and theres a street named after obi wan kenobi.
Gaza relief boat damaged in encounter with Israeli vessel
CNN correspondent Karl Penhaul was aboard the 60-foot pleasure boat Dignity when the contact occurred. When the boat later docked in the Lebanese port city of Tyre, severe damage was visible to the forward port side of the boat, and the front left window and part of the roof had collapsed. It was flying the flag of Gibraltar.
The Dignity was carrying crew and 16 passengers -- physicians from Britain, Germany and Cyprus and human rights activists from the Free Gaza Solidarity Movement -- who were trying to reach Gaza through an Israeli blockade of the territory.
Also on board was former U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney.
Penhaul said an Israeli patrol boat shined its spotlight on the Dignity, and then it and another patrol boat shadowed the Dignity for about a half hour before the collision.
CNN) -- An Israeli patrol boat struck a boat carrying medical volunteers and supplies to Gaza early Tuesday as it attempted to intercept the vessel in the Mediterranean Sea, witnesses and Israeli officials said
CNN correspondent Karl Penhaul was aboard the 60-foot pleasure boat Dignity when the contact occurred. When the boat later docked in the Lebanese port city of Tyre, severe damage was visible to the forward port side of the boat, and the front left window and part of the roof had collapsed. It was flying the flag of Gibraltar.
The Dignity was carrying crew and 16 passengers -- physicians from Britain, Germany and Cyprus and human rights activists from the Free Gaza Solidarity Movement -- who were trying to reach Gaza through an Israeli blockade of the territory.
Also on board was former U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney.
Penhaul said an Israeli patrol boat shined its spotlight on the Dignity, and then it and another patrol boat shadowed the Dignity for about a half hour before the collision.
TEHRAN, Iran – Hard-line Iranian student groups have asked the government to authorize volunteers to go carry out suicide bombings in Israel in response to the Israeli assault on the Gaza Strip.
The government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had not responded to the call by Wednesday. Five hard-line student groups and a conservative clerical group launched a registration drive on Monday, seeking volunteers to carry out suicide attacks against Israel.
In an open letter to Ahmadinjead, the students said "volunteer student suicide groups ... are determined to go to Gaza. You are expected to issue orders to the relevant authorities in order to pave the way for such action." A copy of the letter was made available to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
Volunteer suicide groups have made similar requests in the past and the government never responded to their calls. Some hard-liners have claimed previously they succeeded in secretly sending bombers to Israel, but their claims have never been verified, and there has not been any sign of Iranians carrying out suicide attacks in Israel — raising the likelihood the groups´ activities are mainly for propaganda purposes.
The hard-liners started signing up volunteers after Iran´s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree Sunday saying anyone killed while defending Palestinians in Gaza against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.
The groups claim that more than than 10,000 people throughout Iran have registered as volunteer suicide bombers in the past three days. At a gathering Tuesday in Tehran, hard-liners were distributing registration forms to volunteers.
"How can I remain indifferent while defenseless Palestinians are being butchered," said one volunteer, Ali Reza Takrim Namini, as he filled out the registration form.
Another, Mostafa Babaei, vowed, "I´m willing to sacrifice my blood in support of Islam and in defense of Palestinian Muslims."
The volunteers wore white shrouds symbolizing their willingness to die and headbands with the slogan "Defenders of Gaza" and "Ready for Martyrdom." Most of those registering were members of the Basij militia, a hard-line paramilitary group that has tens of thousands of members and is often involved in drumming up popular fervor against Israel and the West.
Israel´s bombardment of Gaza, whick has killed hundreds of Palestinians, has sparked outrage in Iran and throughout the rest of the Muslim world. Israel says it launched its campaign in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns by Hamas. Iran is Hamas´ main backer, providing it considerable financial aid, though Tehran denies sending it weapons.
Protesters have held daily rallies outside the Egyptian interests section in Tehran, as well as the Jordanian and Saudi embassies, protesting what they call inaction by Arab nations. On Thursday, hard-line students threatened to storm the Egyptian mission unless Egypt open its Rafah border crossing with Gaza, a step Cairo has refused.
I did sign it, thanks for posting it again though.
Is there going to be a petition if Israelis are going to get killed too? That´s what I mean by condemning ALL killings, regardless of race, religion, nationality, and including self-destruction in order to kill. This has to stop or we will wipe ourselves from existance (the only spiecies to ever do so I would imagine).
I did sign it, thanks for posting it again though.
Is there going to be a petition if Israelis are going to get killed too? That´s what I mean by condemning ALL killings, regardless of race, religion, nationality, and including self-destruction in order to kill. This has to stop or we will wipe ourselves from existance (the only spiecies to ever do so I would imagine).
I understood what you meant and my answer is still the same. If you look at the Avaaz (http://www.avaaz.org/en/) site, you will see that it is not only concerned with the killing of Palestinians. You are preaching to the converted. They are concerned different conflicts around the world, not only Gaza. Now that you have signed the petion on that site they will send you news of other problems in the world.
Organisations such as this have grown out of human feelings just like the ones you have voiced and they allow ordinary people like you and I to support their cause, whatever our background. You can be sure that there are millions of people who think like you, whatever their race, religion, nationality.
People are expressing their sadness over the deaths in Gaza at the moment because it´s a tragedy. That expression does not have to mean that they support any particular ´side´. It is the way here, on this site, people express their sadness when a tragedy occurs. It doesn´t have to have any other meaning other than the sadness and grief for the death of fellow human beings.
There is always hope, for every bad thing that goes on in this world there is always a good and remarkable thing. Seems you are condemning the human race. Did you see Cybernetics´ post about hope?
My only regret is that you didn´t say that in the first place i.e. condemn ALL killings around the world. I fear your previous post might lead some here to think you are only concerned with "East/West" (loose term ) issues and conflicts and that your final statement is an attempt to back pedal.
I´d rather the tragedy of death wasn´t used to start another round of personal accusations/insults here as it doesn´t serve any purpose.
I understood what you meant and my answer is still the same. If you look at the Avaaz (http://www.avaaz.org/en/) site, you will see that it is not only concerned with the killing of Palestinians. You are preaching to the converted. They are concerned different conflicts around the world, not only Gaza. Now that you have signed the pettion on that site they will send you news of other problems in the world.
Organisations such as this have grown out of human feelings just like the ones you have voiced and they allow ordinary people like you and I to support their cause, whatever our background. You can be sure that there are millions of people who think like you, whatever their race, religion, nationality.
Point taken. It´s good to see there´re more like-minded people. Sometimes it´s easy to forget when all you see is fights and arguments. Thanks for reminding me of it
And just to add re the part you edited. You´re right, I should have been more specific, such comments can be easily misconstrued.
This is something everyone should see in my humble opinion. Very eye-opening at how vulnerable and lucky at the same time we have been so far (well, the dinosaurs, that´s another story (according to some theories of course) ).
This is something everyone should see in my humble opinion. Very eye-opening at how vulnerable and lucky at the same time we have been so far (well, the dinosaurs, that´s another story (according to some theories of course) ).
Now you are reminding me of one of those people on the streets in London wearing a sandwich board with the message "The end is nigh!"
Now you are reminding me of one of those people on the streets in London wearing a sandwich board with the message "The end is nigh!"
touche
Wouldn´t it be interesting though? The total destruction of life as we know it. Would life reappear? People? What would that be like to start anew without all that baggage we have?
A British mother facing six months in jail in Dubai after being convicted of adultery insists she is innocent.
Marnie Pearce, 39, says she was framed by her ex-husband so he could gain custody of their children, Ziad, four, and Laith, seven. He denies the claim.
The teaching assistant has appealed against her conviction but fears she may never see her children again.
Though we don´t know for 100% sure she had an affair, it´s probably unlikely. What gets up my nose is the fact she loves that country like her own, she bought her kids up within the cultural standards etc yet they seem to treat her like dirt without giving her a chance.
Countries criticize other countries whenever something bad is said about them, but it makes you feel like saying "and you still wonder why people judge others...".
After all, How often do you get people in the world that is so cultural?
A New Delhi labourer survived getting hit by a bus, only to get hit and killed by a second bus 20 minutes later, police said.
Raj Kumar was on his way to work on Wednesday morning when a bus hit him from behind.
Police officials said local residents took the injured man to the hospital inside a three-wheeler taxi. Before they reached the hospital, however, Mr Kumar said he felt fine and jumped out of the vehicle to cross the road - when another bus hit him.
A New Delhi labourer survived getting hit by a bus, only to get hit and killed by a second bus 20 minutes later, police said.
Raj Kumar was on his way to work on Wednesday morning when a bus hit him from behind.
Police officials said local residents took the injured man to the hospital inside a three-wheeler taxi. Before they reached the hospital, however, Mr Kumar said he felt fine and jumped out of the vehicle to cross the road - when another bus hit him.
Well it wasn´t today but it still bugs me in a sense...
I was on the fast train to London which only stops at 2 stops so therefore they have a refreshment trolley on the train. According to one of the many new laws, it states that you are no longer allowed to drink on public transport. But on the refreshment trolley they were serving beers
The law likes to bend the rules to it´s own liking as it seems, or another way of putting it "do as I say and not as I do".
UK Muslims fighting in Afghanistan Against British Military
Someone needs to tell the multiculties, Gordon Brown & his NuLabourites along with the rest of the dhimmis that all the freebies and benefits of the UK have not transformed muslims into "British". This shouldn´t be a surprise as back in 2006 a survey of muslims living in Britain found:
"When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."
Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year´s Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it."
a source here for LIR who has to persecute me according to TC rules:
A postmortem will be held in the Bahamas on Monday amid US media reports that Jett, who was accompanied on the trip by two nannies, may have suffered from autism. The condition is not recognised by the Scientology belief system pursued by Travolta and his actress wife Kelly Preston and the couple has denied through their lawyer that their son was autistic.
Jett had a history of seizures and other medical problems, including complications resulting from Kawasaki disease, a rare lymph-node disorder that he suffered as a young child, Travolta has told investigators on the island
Travolta and Preston said that their son, who sometimes appeared confused or unsure of his surroundings in public, had suffered as a young child from Kawasaki disease, brought on by chemicals used to clean their carpets.
They also said that he had a history of seizures which some doctors said could have been the product of brain damage as a result of Kawasaki, a treatable disease characterised by high fever, skin rash and swelling of the lymph nodes that usually affects children under five.
Based on precepts laid down by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard and whose Hollywood adherents also includes Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, Scientology views mental illness as psychosomatic and says it should be treated through spiritual healing.
UK Muslims fighting in Afghanistan Against British Military
Someone needs to tell the multiculties, Gordon Brown & his NuLabourites along with the rest of the dhimmis that all the freebies and benefits of the UK have not transformed muslims into "British". This shouldn´t be a surprise as back in 2006 a survey of muslims living in Britain found:
"When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."
Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year´s Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it."
a source here for LIR who has to persecute me according to TC rules:
then what are they doing in the UK? they indeed should move out to those countries.
Thank you but why is it for me? Have I ever given you the impression I support this? I don´t think so. As far as I am concerned anyone who does not want to live under our laws should return to their own country.
My aunts, my sister and some of my cousins too..OK?
ohhh yeah when it comes from family, it must be true ...see? my son keeps telling me I am the most beautiful, prettiest woman in the whole world..then I should be named "Miss Universe"
ohhh yeah when it comes from family, it must be true ...see? my son keeps telling me I am the most beautiful, prettiest woman in the whole world..then I should be named "Miss Universe"
mine are also well trained in this department....they sing in the style of the Pussy Cat Dolls "don´t you wish your mamma was hot like mine" heh heh not so cool in the middle of Waitrose ha ha
Vineyards gone? Why? Can´t read all that you´ve posted in two weeks so can anyone enlighten me?
Oh you know…same old thing…..he got pissed off at someone, can’t recall now who exactly it was (just insert one of the usual suspects here).
They traded insults and he rambled on for a bit about the injustice of the mods and why they would not delete the insults against him (of course he was completely innocent) and asked to be deleted….again.
Oh you know…same old thing…..he got pissed off at someone, can’t recall now who exactly it was (just insert one of the usual suspects here).
They traded insults and he rambled on for a bit about the injustice of the mods and why they would not delete the insults against him (of course he was completely innocent) and asked to be deleted….again.
GG..stop giving wrong info..
I did not insult him..OK? I was innocent (as usual)
Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.
Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds - the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium - as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.
Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.
Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.
Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds - the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium - as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.
Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.
Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.
Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds - the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium - as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.
Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.
...while braving freezing temperatures as hundreds participate in the annual Coney Island Polar Bear Club New Year´s Day swim at Coney Island on January 1, 2009 in New York City.
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Competitors struggle through the mud of the River Blackwater in Maldon, Essex UK, during the annual Maldon Mud Race, 4 January 2009. Over 200 competitors, many in fancy dress, took part in the race through freezing estuary mud.
But why?
ps. I did not participate in any of the above events. !!
Competitors struggle through the mud of the River Blackwater in Maldon, Essex UK, during the annual Maldon Mud Race, 4 January 2009. Over 200 competitors, many in fancy dress, took part in the race through freezing estuary mud.
I´ve always wanted to participate........looks like loads of good clean fun
i see no violence here just a girl in a relaxed position.
i too quickly thought it was aenigma
Quoting tamikidakika
Brits Gone Wild
Violence scarred celebrations and led to a bloody New Year across the country as emergency services endured a chaotic end to 2008.
Ambulance control centres reported receiving 999 calls as often as once every seven seconds - the second highest volume of calls since the Millennium - as binge drinkers turned nasty in the freezing temperatures.
Many of the calls related either to alcohol-fuelled assaults or excessive drunkenness.
PM from some Turkish male member......" I am bored here in the US....come talk to me on MSN." hahaha....I am hardly the font of excitement here in the US!
PM from some Turkish male member......" I am bored here in the US....come talk to me on MSN." hahaha....I am hardly the font of excitement here in the US!
PM from some Turkish male member......" I am bored here in the US....come talk to me on MSN." hahaha....I am hardly the font of excitement here in the US!
Hey, DK may have a British passport but she´s still Dutch! She should be in a gang with Chantal and me (and other Dutch, maybe Zulfu and Kisrak can join?)!
The fact that "rating functionality" has been added to the essays uploaded here. Can someone explain to me what is the purpose of rating essays??
Is not that I have added or plan to add any essays but if I´d ever decide to do it, I would feel like if an instructor is giving me a grade for one of my essays.
Aren´t essays suppose to be simple thoughts or experiences, why should they be rated?
The fact that "rating functionality" has been added to the essays uploaded here. Can someone explain to me what is the purpose of rating essays??
Is not that I have added or plan to add any essays but if I´d ever decide to do it, I would feel like if an instructor is giving me a grade for one of my essays.
Aren´t essays suppose to be simple thoughts or experiences, why should they be rated?
btw, I find comments okay but rating?
easy-peasy.
this way you may know whats the best essay
or
what type of essays are prefered in TC among lots of sapiks
The format of the Forum page is different. You have to click on the discussion topics linky thingy to see the most recent posts.
Oh yes.......
I completely missed that - mainly because the Off Topic forum was still open on this computer!
But it does seem strange to add an extra click when there are far more annoying things that could do with addressing. Such as making it so that tabbing forwards from the posting window goes straight to the send button and not to the Turkish character buttons!
Is this delibarate behaviour? Anyway seems better to me. At least you can click on ">>" to go to the last page of a particular thread. It´s a saving in bandwidth.
And probably will not notice some annoying posts this way.
Is this delibarate behaviour? Anyway seems better to me. At least you can click on ">>" to go to the last page of a particular thread. It´s a saving in bandwidth.
How can it be saving the bandwith since all the content is already in the page?
Is this delibarate behaviour? Anyway seems better to me. At least you can click on ">>" to go to the last page of a particular thread. It´s a saving in bandwidth.
is this thing >> new to the forum, it always was there
How can it be saving the bandwith since all the content is already in the page?
Clicking just makes it visible..that is all
It is not ajax..
Oh I think I explained it. I used to click on anything from main page that would take you to the first page first. When you goto a specific page you can click on ">>" to goto the last page.
This change forces you to go to a specific topic page.
The reason why this change is VERY annoying, is that when you finished with a particular thread you cant just click on forum topics to see the other topics. You have to go back and click "latest discussion messages" each time
It would be useful if there was a link to the latest discussion messages on the left hand side.
The reason why this change is VERY annoying, is that when you finished with a particular thread you cant just click on forum topics to see the other topics. You have to go back and click "latest discussion messages" each time
But the link to the forum index is still at the top of each thread.......
The reason why this change is VERY annoying, is that when you finished with a particular thread you cant just click on forum topics to see the other topics. You have to go back and click "latest discussion messages" each time
It would be useful if there was a link to the latest discussion messages on the left hand side.
offf
stop moaning. you still have your freedom to come here and post your hidious posts anytime you wish. at least theres no a tiny regime here
Yeah...that is the only bit I look at I dont actually go into the Forums themselves, I just work off the "Latest Discussion Messages" bit - because you can preview the latest posts there.
EVEN MORE ANNOYING...... when you are in "latest discussion messages" and you refresh the page to see new posts, it takes you back to the forum page and you have to re-click on it...
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! These changes might FINALLY get rid of me for good!
EVEN MORE ANNOYING...... when you are in "latest discussion messages" and you refresh the page to see new posts, it takes you back to the forum page and you have to re-click on it...
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! These changes might FINALLY get rid of me for good!
It seems catwoman is more devious than we thought!
Julia told me that today they got o church at 6 pm and finish their ceremonies at about 2 am!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Today they wer fasting, but here they afst not like us, but a different fast, they dont eat anythign taht once had a soul, means no eggs, no cake, no mayyonaise!
No poultry or meat or all those things, u knoiw, just rice and vegetables
You know they also have fasting months, they do this fasting thing for 3 months every year, i think its even more difficult tahn our fasting!
But not all of them fast, Christine´s like give me a bite of that sandwich, i told her but it has mayyonaise she slike its okay! LOOOOOOOL! She ate it and then she kept on fasting loool
Anyway, we have 2moro and thursday off, weve had sooo many holidays recently!
Hugo Chavez´s angry speech about Israel - I love Latin AmericaI wish we had such a prime minister who prefers to be honoured instead of being slave of "power".
Venezuela has ordered the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador to Caracas in protest at Israel´s offensive in the Gaza Strip.
A number of diplomatic staff have been expelled along with Shlomo Cohen.
President Hugo Chavez has strongly condemned Israel for its actions and called on Israelis to stand up against their government.
Venezuela is the first country to take such a diplomatic step in protest at the violence in Gaza.
"The Israeli army is cowardly attacking worn-out, innocent people, while they claim that they are defending their people," Mr Chavez said during a visit to a children´s hospital in Caracas.
"I call on the people of Israel to stand up against that government, to demand, to put a hand on their hearts and look at their children, and I call on the world to stop this madness."
Shortly after, the foreign ministry released a statement ordering the expulsion of Mr Cohen and some of his staff, in what they said was a show of solidarity with the Palestinians.
Hugo Chavez´s angry speech about Israel - I love Latin AmericaI wish we had such a prime minister who prefers to be honoured instead of being slave of "power".
you love latin america? whats so lovely about it? never ending poverty and corruption, slavery?
a slave to a power? i think he owns no brain like many of his countrymen. why? they dont think of their people, they dont take care of them, their people live in slums kept with no education, and their leaders are proud slave traders who oppose so called "power".
Venezuela has ordered the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador to Caracas in protest at Israel´s offensive in the Gaza Strip.
i think this is a stupid thing to do. you dont expel the embassies even if its direct enemy´s embassy. thats undiplomatic.
A number of diplomatic staff have been expelled along with Shlomo Cohen.
President Hugo Chavez has strongly condemned Israel for its actions and called on Israelis to stand up against their government.
vai vai, what now? israel has lost its brownie point.
Venezuela is the first country to take such a diplomatic step in protest at the violence in Gaza.
masalah, they should be rewarded, chiko, are you polishing the medals?
I love Latin America´s music, people, the way they live and the way they stand against US. dont be so jealous honey, I love you more than Latin America.
I love Latin America´s music, people, the way they live and the way they stand against US. dont be so jealous honey, I love you more than Latin America.
ciko, our tastes are like southern and northern poles.
The owners of hundreds of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border have registered with the Hamas authorities, signed pledges to pay workers´ compensation and hooked up their underground operations to the local electricity network
The owners of hundreds of tunnels running under the Gaza-Egypt border have registered with the Hamas authorities, signed pledges to pay workers´ compensation and hooked up their underground operations to the local electricity network
The sheep doesn´t look too happy about this........
Bnei Hasharon experienced two hours of terror in Ankara on Tuesday evening.
Moments before the tip-off of the Israeli team´s Eurocup encounter against Turk Telekom some 3,000 Turkish fans shouted ´Allah Akbar´ and, by some accounts, ´death to the Jews´ in protest against the IDF´s actions in Gaza.
Other fans threw bottles at the Israeli players and stormed the court, forcing the Israelis to flee for the dressing rooms.
The players and staff were only able to leave for their hotel thanks to a massive police escort after being stranded for two long hours in the locker room
I just found out that if I place the mouse on a username in the box "User Statistics" without clicking on it I get a small popup message that tells me what that user is looking at in the TC website at that moment!!
No privacy on this site
user angela_kaya is on turkish_lesson_1 , user katalin is on turkish_lesson_5, and user cedars is not studying turkish as she should be doing
I just found out that if I place the mouse on a username in the box "User Statistics" without clicking on it I get a small popup message that tells me what that user is looking at in the TC website at that moment!!
No privacy on this site
user angela_kaya is on turkish_lesson_1 , user katalin is on turkish_lesson_5, and user cedars is not studying turkish as she should be doing
You only just discovered the joys of ´hovering´?? Where have you been?? (and I see user cedars is STILL not studying Turkish
I just found out that if I place the mouse on a username in the box "User Statistics" without clicking on it I get a small popup message that tells me what that user is looking at in the TC website at that moment!!
No privacy on this site
user angela_kaya is on turkish_lesson_1 , user katalin is on turkish_lesson_5, and user cedars is not studying turkish as she should be doing
thats a dangerous thing you´ve discovered.
hairy is constantly checking me up. dont be jealous, he is obessesed only with me.
My hot wax is ready! (I dislike hair on a man´s body!)
I have pictures of you braiding his hair in the park........you both looked very cozy......I think the distain for his hair is all a cover so that we don´t suspect you. Don´t make me reveal the scope of your deceit in my next Tabloid!!
I have pictures of you braiding his hair in the park........you both looked very cozy......I think the distain for his hair is all a cover so that we don´t suspect you. Don´t make me reveal the scope of your deceit in my next Tabloid!!
Two Turkish hackers have launched a massive cyber-attack against private and public Israeli Web sites as a reaction to the Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip, which started on Dec. 27.
Two individuals, N.D., who was educated abroad in the field of information technology, and B.S., a university student in Bursa, have so far defaced 500 Israeli Web sites.
The hackers leave notes in Turkish, German and English on the Web sites they attack, saying: "We are making a small-scale protest just to show you your shameful acts. You are doing to the Palestinian public what Hitler did to you." The Turkish hackers also post the photos of Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers on the Web sites
There is a demand for more women, too. Not just bluestockings, but the kind who know what to do with scatter cushions. Only that could explain the presence of Good Housekeeping at a recent SIS press conference held at Tate Modern in London, intended to stimulate more applications from target groups
i can scatter cushions
Based at "head office" in London following assignments in Africa and the Middle East, Nick was initially attracted to MI6 by the chance to travel – an SIS officer may spend months in a country absorbing its culture. After joining he was "amazed" how friendly it was. "Occasionally you do work long hours. It might be midnight in the UK but it´s midday in another part of the world. But I do get to drop my daughter at nursery and pick her up."
Catherine joined SIS nine years ago after applying for the Foreign Office. "Halfway through the interview, this lovely lady said it wasn´t for the Foreign Office, it was for SIS. I sat there with my mouth open. She went off to have a cup of tea while I thought about it."
Her concern was that it might be dangerous, "but I can tell you that it´s not. The safety of staff is paramount. You are never asked to do anything you are not happy with." SIS operations do require muscle on occasion, but this tends to take the form of ex-special forces contractors rather than serving intelligence officers. Shooting at things is not really MI6´s thing.
The selection process takes nine months for a successful candidate, beginning with the online application form. Applicants must be British and hold a 2:2 degree or above. You must not have used Class A drugs in the last 12 months and have abstained from Class B and C drugs in the last six months. If you are a manic depressive, a schizophrenic or a bankrupt, don´t bother applying. So the good news seems to be that if you kicked your heroin habit 13 months ago you are in with a chance!
Up to 80 per cent of applicants fail the application form, usually by not bothering to read it properly and failing to supply what it asks for. Half the applicants selected for first interview fall at that hurdle, and half the remainder fail the second interview. The winnowing process continues with an assessment course. Five per cent of applicants fail personal vetting.
"The old talent-spotting system was very labour-intensive, very rickety," said John.
What kind of people did he want in his recruitment in-tray?
"Motivated problem-solvers who do not crave the limelight. People who are good at building relationships. You may have to ask people to supply information that may place them in danger."
Was SIS short of applicants?
"The numbers are very healthy but we feel people are ruling themselves out."
An American skier had a bit of a nasty experience (along with other skiers who witnessed it) when he slipped out of a malfunctioning chair lift, and hung upside down by one leg of his ski suit, exposing his bare buttocks and privates for all see for some 15 min!
A billboard poster advertising a nasal spray for male sexual problems is displayed on January 8, 2009 in London, England. The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) has asked the Advanced Medical Institute, who are promoting the spray with the phrase "want longer lasting sex ?", to remove the adverts. They have refused,
here is the number (in case it is not clear enough in pictures) 0800 082 6030
Boy, 6, Tries To Drive To School and drives 10 miles
The youngster, who has not been named, missed his school bus in Wicomico Church, Virginia, early on Monday morning.
His father had already left for work, leaving the boy and his four-year-old brother at home with their mother, who was still asleep.
After she failed to wake up in time to help him get ready, he decided to take the keys to the Ford Taurus and make his own way to Northumberland Elementary School.
But after driving for around 10 miles, possibly standing up, he lost control of the vehicle and crashed.
Boy, 6, Tries To Drive To School and drives 10 miles
The youngster, who has not been named, missed his school bus in Wicomico Church, Virginia, early on Monday morning.
His father had already left for work, leaving the boy and his four-year-old brother at home with their mother, who was still asleep.
After she failed to wake up in time to help him get ready, he decided to take the keys to the Ford Taurus and make his own way to Northumberland Elementary School.
But after driving for around 10 miles, possibly standing up, he lost control of the vehicle and crashed.
I saw at the bottom of the article about both parents being arrested and that the children are now in foster care.
In my personal opinion, I don´t see how the father had anything to do with it, he went to work for the children to be in care of the mother. Ok the mother needs to pay a hell of a lot more attention to her kids more often but honestly, who would think their 6 year old child would take your car and drive to school?
It´s not so much as letting the parents off for something as extreme as that but to be arrested and to put both the kids in care (which is not always a good thing either) I think is a little on the extreme side of punishment.
Along with everything else in the world Where I live now it used to cost £7.50 for 4 stops on a train, when I was in New York, it was $4 (return) to get around on the subway mostly anywhere and now they are putting the prices up even HIGHER!! As if it wasn´t expensive enough!
KABUL, Afghanistan – The mother and brother of a 14-year-old girl who was raped are facing prosecution for allegedly performing an abortion on her in a cattle shed in central Afghanistan, officials said (...) The abortion was performed about nine days ago, using no anesthesia. The incisions were stitched up with a thick string usually used to sew up potato sacks (...)
Nader said the girl told him that she had not known her mother and brother´s plan when they took her into the cattle shed. She said the two of them wrestled her to the ground and held her down while they cut her stomach open. She blacked out for much of the ordeal, but she said she remembered seeing her brother hold up the fetus.
The Israeli embassy in central London turned into a battleground yesterday evening as police and demonstrators clashed following a pro-Palestinian rally.
Organisers estimated that at the peak of the protest up to 100,000 people had braved snow and sub-zero temperatures to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, but police believe the figure was closer to 20,000.
In London, 13 people were taken to hospital following increasingly violent scuffles between police and protesters, and scores more were treated at the scene. The trouble began when protesters hurled shoes at the US embassy, in the spirit of Iraqi journalist Muntadar al-Zaidi, who threw his shoes at George Bush in protest at his "war crimes".
A 107-year-old Chinese woman who was afraid to marry when she was young has decided to look for her first husband and hopes to find a fellow centenarian so they will have something to talk about, a Chinese paper reported.
Wang Guiying is worried she is becoming a burden to her ageing nieces and nephews since breaking her leg when she was 102 and had to stop doing chores like washing her clothes.
"I´m already 107 and I still haven´t got married," the Chongqing Commercial Times quoted her saying. "What will happen if I don´t hurry up and find a husband?"
Born in southern Guizhou province the child of a salt merchant, Wang grew up watching her uncles and other men scold and beat their wives and often found her aunt crying in the woodshed after an attack, the paper said.
"All the married people around there lived like that. Getting married was too frightening," she said of an era when Chinese women had few rights and low social standing.
Many also had their feet bound in an excruciating process aimed at making them look more dainty and marriageable.
After Wang´s father, mother and older sister died, she still shied away from marriage. Instead she moved to the countryside and survived as a farmer until she was 74 years old and no longer strong enough to work in the fields, the report said.
Her nephew in the booming city of Chongqing then took Wang in, but she is worried he and her other nephews and nieces are too old to take care of her now even the youngest is 60.
"My nephews and nieces are getting older and their children are already tied up with their own families and I am becoming more and more of a burden," she said.
Local officials have said they are happy to help Wang search for a 100-year old groom, and suggested her family get in touch with old people´s homes to find candidates, the paper said.
A 107-year-old Chinese woman who was afraid to marry when she was young has decided to look for her first husband and hopes to find a fellow centenarian so they will have something to talk about, a Chinese paper reported.
Wang Guiying is worried she is becoming a burden to her ageing nieces and nephews since breaking her leg when she was 102 and had to stop doing chores like washing her clothes.
"I´m already 107 and I still haven´t got married," the Chongqing Commercial Times quoted her saying. "What will happen if I don´t hurry up and find a husband?"
Born in southern Guizhou province the child of a salt merchant, Wang grew up watching her uncles and other men scold and beat their wives and often found her aunt crying in the woodshed after an attack, the paper said.
"All the married people around there lived like that. Getting married was too frightening," she said of an era when Chinese women had few rights and low social standing.
Many also had their feet bound in an excruciating process aimed at making them look more dainty and marriageable.
After Wang´s father, mother and older sister died, she still shied away from marriage. Instead she moved to the countryside and survived as a farmer until she was 74 years old and no longer strong enough to work in the fields, the report said.
Her nephew in the booming city of Chongqing then took Wang in, but she is worried he and her other nephews and nieces are too old to take care of her now even the youngest is 60.
"My nephews and nieces are getting older and their children are already tied up with their own families and I am becoming more and more of a burden," she said.
Local officials have said they are happy to help Wang search for a 100-year old groom, and suggested her family get in touch with old people´s homes to find candidates, the paper said.
do people live this long?
Gosh why ruin it now...she isn´t missing anything someone tell her. Just me I suppose, but I don´t want to be 102 still washing my cloths..
you dont understand, they still wash by hands and younger dudu would help her with laundry.
i dont want to live that long another 30-40 years should be enough.
Well then tell her to join TC..maybe she could find a younger dudu here to wash cloths. But she better have money. I would just be happy to last until I´m 80.
Well then tell her to join TC..maybe she could find a younger dudu here to wash cloths. But she better have money. I would just be happy to last until I´m 80.
Surgeons in the U.S. perform a delicate operation reattaching a cat´s FACE after it was ripped off in a horror accident. Four-year-old moggie Edgar was dozing under the bonnet of a car when a motorist started it up, accidentally tearing off the poor puss´ skin. Edgar´s unnamed owner found him at home, slumped in his litter box in agony and was so shocked she passed out. But vets at the Angell Animal Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts, spent an hour stitching Edgar up and he remarkably survived
This is after the surgery..
I am not going to put before the surgery pictures..
Surgeons in the U.S. perform a delicate operation reattaching a cat´s FACE after it was ripped off in a horror accident. Four-year-old moggie Edgar was dozing under the bonnet of a car when a motorist started it up, accidentally tearing off the poor puss´ skin. Edgar´s unnamed owner found him at home, slumped in his litter box in agony and was so shocked she passed out. But vets at the Angell Animal Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts, spent an hour stitching Edgar up and he remarkably survived
This is after the surgery..
I am not going to put before the surgery pictures..
god that is awful.....perhaps he´ll find a safer sleeping spot now!!
I am not going to put before the surgery pictures..
Thanks for not posting the surgery pictures but seriously, can´t you please just post links to these types of graphic pictures? Not everyone wants to see this!
Thanks for not posting the surgery pictures but seriously, can´t you please just post links to these types of graphic pictures? Not everyone wants to see this!
ISTANBUL - A new search engine on the Internet was launched recently, but this time it is for Muslims only.
"The best search for Islam," the Web site states on its main page, on which the color green, known as Islam’s color is used.
"This is a search engine to filter inconvenient results in search engines," the Web site states. For example, a search for "alcohol" first lists results about alcohol in Islam. Meanwhile, words like "porn," or its Turkish version "porno," and the word "sex," cannot be searched for using the engine. However, "seks" the Turkish word for "sex" can be searched.
ISTANBUL - A new search engine on the Internet was launched recently, but this time it is for Muslims only.
"The best search for Islam," the Web site states on its main page, on which the color green, known as Islam’s color is used.
"This is a search engine to filter inconvenient results in search engines," the Web site states. For example, a search for "alcohol" first lists results about alcohol in Islam. Meanwhile, words like "porn," or its Turkish version "porno," and the word "sex," cannot be searched for using the engine. However, "seks" the Turkish word for "sex" can be searched.
CAIRO, Egypt – Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.
Bin Laden spoke in an audiotape posted Wednesday on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. It was his first tape since May and came nearly three weeks after Israel started its campaign against Gaza´s militant Hamas rulers.
The al-Qaida leader also vowed that the terror network would open "new fronts" against the United States and its allies beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. He said President-elect Barack Obama has received a "heavy inheritance" from George W. Bush — two wars and "the collapse of the economy," which he said will render the United States unable to sustain a long fight against the mujahedeen, or holy warriors.
"There is only one strong way to bring the return of Al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God," bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. "The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades."
"Islamic nation, you are capable of defeating the Zionist entity with your popular capabilities and your great hidden strength — without the support of (Arab) leaders and despite the fact that most of (the leaders) stand in the barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance," bin Laden said.
The authenticity of the tape could not be independently confirmed, but the voice resembled that of bin Laden in previous messages.
The tape, entitled "a call for jihad to stop the aggression on Gaza," was played over a still picture of bin Laden and the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem´s Old City, one of Islam´s holiest sites. But there were no English subtitles and flashy production graphics that usually accompany such messages.
That suggested the message had been hastily put together and issued to best exploit anger in the region over the Gaza offensive, which Palestinian medical officials say has killed more than 940 Palestinians, half of them civilians. Israel said the offensive aims to halt rocket fire from Gaza against Israeli towns.
Bin Laden accused Arab leaders of "avoiding their responsibility" to liberate Palestine.
"If you are not convinced to fight, then open the way to those who are convinced," he said.
Bin Laden and his lieutenants frequently use the Palestinian issue to try to rally support for al-Qaida and often call for holy war to free Jerusalem. But there has been little sign that the terror group has carried out attacks in Israel. Bin Laden made no direct reference to Hamas, which seized power in Gaza in 2007. Al-Qaida leaders have frequently criticized the Palestinian militant group for participating in elections and failing to seriously pursue jihad against Israel.
The al-Qaida leader also said the world economic crisis was a sign that the United States´ power was falling apart, boasting that "the Islamic nation´s jihad is one of the main causes of these destructive results for our enemies."
Pointing to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, bin Laden said al-Qaida was prepared to fight "for seven more years, and seven more after that, then seven more."
"We are on the way to opening new fronts," he said, urging Muslims to "join hands with the mujahedeen to continue the jihad against the enemy, to continue bleeding them on these two fronts and on the others that are open to you."
"The question is, can America continue the war against us for several more decades? The reports and signs show us otherwise," he said. He said Bush had left his successor "with a heavy inheritance," forcing Obama to choose between withdrawing from the wars or continuing.
"If he withdraws from the war, it is a military defeat. If he continues, he drowns in economic crisis," bin Laden said.
It was the first time bin Laden have spoken of Obama, though he did not mention him by name. Bin Laden´s top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri has previously spoken against Obama, warning Muslims he will not bring major change in U.S. policies.
Femme, I have a question.. why do you always keep not understanding what is said... I was going through your posts.. most of them is "didn´t understand this"
Senior Saudi Cleric OKs 10-Year-Old Girls for Marriage
IYADH, Saudi Arabia — A pan-Arab newspaper quotes Saudi Arabia´s most senior Muslim cleric as saying it is OK for 10-year-old girls to marry.
The London-based Al-Hayat newspaper also quotes Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Baz, the country´s grand mufti, as saying that those who believe women should not marry before the age of 25 are following a "bad path."
His comments during a lecture Monday come as Saudi human rights groups are fighting to put an end to marriages involving the very young. The groups are pressing the government to define the minimum age for marriage.
On Sunday, the government-run National Human Rights Commission condemned marriages of minor girls, saying such marriages are an "inhumane violation."
Senior Saudi Cleric OKs 10-Year-Old Girls for Marriage
IYADH, Saudi Arabia — A pan-Arab newspaper quotes Saudi Arabia´s most senior Muslim cleric as saying it is OK for 10-year-old girls to marry.
The London-based Al-Hayat newspaper also quotes Sheik Abdul-Aziz bin Baz, the country´s grand mufti, as saying that those who believe women should not marry before the age of 25 are following a "bad path."
His comments during a lecture Monday come as Saudi human rights groups are fighting to put an end to marriages involving the very young. The groups are pressing the government to define the minimum age for marriage.
On Sunday, the government-run National Human Rights Commission condemned marriages of minor girls, saying such marriages are an "inhumane violation."
Femme, I have a question.. why do you always keep not understanding what is said... I was going through your posts.. most of them is "didn´t understand this"
i dont understand why do you ask me this question. im trying to pull out more info from those who have posted such comments. dont you see that? it is simply a gentle invitation to a talk, a little provoke. i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?
i dont understand why do you ask me this question. im trying to pull out more info from those who have posted such comments. dont you see that? it is simply a gentle invitation to a talk, a little provoke. i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?
luv, come on, do it... I love it when you provoke... please say didn´t understand this.
Hoax EU sculpture by David Cerny sparks diplomatic spat
A hoax artwork which was supposed to celebrate European diversity provoked a full-scale diplomatic incident between Bulgaria and the Czech Republic today.
The sculpture, commissioned by the Czech government to mark their EU presidency, mocked Europe’s national stereotypes, but some governments have failed to get the joke.
Bulgaria has taken exception to its caricature, which depicts the country as a Turkish squat toilet. The country´s ambassador wrote formal letters of complaint to the Czech EU presidency and Javier Solana, the EU foreign policy chief, today.
Officials have demanded that the sculpture be taken down before the exhibit’s public opening tomorrow.
Betina Joteva, first secretary for the Bulgarian office to the EU, said: ´I cannot accept to see a toilet on the map of my country. This is not the face of Bulgaria.´
The Czech government commissioned the work from David Cerny, but he claimed it would contain individual sculptures created by artists from all of the EU nations. It emerged yesterday that it was a hoax and that he had designed all of the works himself.
France is represented by a banner that reads “Strike!”, while Romania is an oversized Dracula theme park. Luxembourg is a tiny lump of gold with a “For Sale” sign and the Netherlands is depicted entirely submerged by water apart from minarets from the nation’s mosques. Sweden is an Ikea flat pack and Lithuania has three statues urinating on Russia.
Slovakia is also thought to have made a complaint about the way it has been portrayed – as a wrapped up corpse.
Cerny admitted yesterday that the whole thing had been a hoax, and that he had invented the names of the “up-and-coming” artists from the 27 member states.
There was also the question of what became of £350,000 in funding meant for the artists.
Mr. Cerny is notorious for thumbing his nose at the establishment. He was arrested in 1991 for painting a tank, a Soviet war memorial in a Prague square, bright pink.
i dont understand why do you ask me this question. im trying to pull out more info from those who have posted such comments. dont you see that? it is simply a gentle invitation to a talk, a little provoke. i also can send a harsh invitation. want that?
George W Bush face masks are reduced to make way for new stock of Barack Obama masks at Angels Fancy Dress store on Shaftesbury Avenue..
The Barack Obama masks are some of the first to go on sale in the UK, just days before Mr Obama is inaugurated as the President of the USA on January 20, 2009
A doctor is showing a robot called Da Vanci to make operation on January 15,2009, in Beijing, China. According to introductions, the robot could take operation for the patients to cut the tumor, gall and rectum cancer
I would rather prefer not have that robot operating on me if I have rectum cancer
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Fire Treatment
caption of the images say:
A man tries out a medicated fire treatment at a local traditional hospital and due to the wet cold weather in South of China during winter the fire treatment is popular with the local people to avoid catching a cold in Jiaxing Zhejiang Province in China
This cropcircle , found in United Kingdom, Wiltshire , Avebury Manor (15.07.2008) area. and this is very interesting because it shows somethings to us , it shows our solar system and it shows that how the positions of the planets will be on 21 or 23 december 2012.. the date is very important because , the Mayan Calendar will be end on 22-23 december 2012 , and according to mayans, our earth will get in a new age ( new period ).. it will not be end of humanity but it will be very big change.. more info , more info
i like these things i think i came from VEGA
Avebury Manor of July 15, 2008 reminds us that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end on December 23, 2012: by showing precise orbital locations for all nine planets of our solar system on that date, plus an accurate elliptical orbit for Pluto
The 5125-year Mayan Long count calendar will end on December 22-23, 2012. Given the long period of time which it represents, all nine planets of our solar system need to be shown in order to mark its end uniquely. Such a clever astronomical diagram was shown at Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008. All nine planets appear there precisely as they will be located in space four and one-half years from now on December 23, 2012, with one exception.
Thus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawnin this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case. Yet Pluto still seems to be located correctly relative to the crossover of its highly elliptical orbit with the orbit of Neptune. Three weeks ago at Secklendorf in Germany, two different dates from the year 2012 were indicated astronomically in a crop picture, one of which (December 21, 2012) was essentially the same as that shown here (see HERE).
December 21 or 23, 2012?
Many people believe that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end precisely on December 21, 2012. Yet a new crop picture from Avebury Manor shows planetary positions that match more closely December 23-24 than December 21. To be specific, Venus and Mercury will lie almost directly in line with the Sun on December 21, whereas on December 23-24, Mercury will lie a little ahead of Venus as shown (see HERE).
Since we are obtaining such new information directly "from the horse´s mouth", I thought it more advisable to report the astronomical date they are actually showing us, rather than any preconceived date of our own. For example, modern scholars remain uncertain by two full days, whether the Long Count calendar began on August 11,12 or 13, 3114 BC (see HERE or HERE).
Crop swirls within its central "Sun" tell us which way the planets are moving!
This cropcircle , found in United Kingdom, Wiltshire , Avebury Manor (15.07.2008) area. and this is very interesting because it shows somethings to us , it shows our solar system and it shows that how the positions of the planets will be on 21 or 23 december 2012.. the date is very important because , the Mayan Calendar will be end on 22-23 december 2012 , and according to mayans, our earth will get in a new age ( new period ).. it will not be end of humanity but it will be very big change.. more info , more info
i like these things i think i came from VEGA
Avebury Manor of July 15, 2008 reminds us that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end on December 23, 2012: by showing precise orbital locations for all nine planets of our solar system on that date, plus an accurate elliptical orbit for Pluto
The 5125-year Mayan Long count calendar will end on December 22-23, 2012. Given the long period of time which it represents, all nine planets of our solar system need to be shown in order to mark its end uniquely. Such a clever astronomical diagram was shown at Avebury Manor on July 15, 2008. All nine planets appear there precisely as they will be located in space four and one-half years from now on December 23, 2012, with one exception.
Thus, the outermost planet Pluto has been drawnin this new crop picture somewhat further to the right (or closer to Neptune) than should be the case. Yet Pluto still seems to be located correctly relative to the crossover of its highly elliptical orbit with the orbit of Neptune. Three weeks ago at Secklendorf in Germany, two different dates from the year 2012 were indicated astronomically in a crop picture, one of which (December 21, 2012) was essentially the same as that shown here (see HERE).
December 21 or 23, 2012?
Many people believe that the Mayan Long Count calendar will end precisely on December 21, 2012. Yet a new crop picture from Avebury Manor shows planetary positions that match more closely December 23-24 than December 21. To be specific, Venus and Mercury will lie almost directly in line with the Sun on December 21, whereas on December 23-24, Mercury will lie a little ahead of Venus as shown (see HERE).
Since we are obtaining such new information directly "from the horse´s mouth", I thought it more advisable to report the astronomical date they are actually showing us, rather than any preconceived date of our own. For example, modern scholars remain uncertain by two full days, whether the Long Count calendar began on August 11,12 or 13, 3114 BC (see HERE or HERE).
Crop swirls within its central "Sun" tell us which way the planets are moving!
Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites? I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while
EDIT: Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa...
Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites? I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while
EDIT: Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa...
Wow...I´m agreeing with you. I´m too tired to discuss these topics...you people have exhausted me.
Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites? I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while
EDIT: Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa...
Kidney stones? been studying about them as my cat has them....found out there are a lot of different kinds...there are calcium, uric acid, struvite and cystine. They can be caused by an inbalance of minerals in the diet...among other things...all which points to the importance to a good healthy, balanced and nutritious diet....
Any chance of a thread which is not related to Gaza, Palastine, Israel, muslims, christians, jews, nazis, Jesus, Arabs and Israelites? I just wondered if we could have a change of topic for a while
EDIT: Great.... a topic about getting your Turkish boyfriend a visa...
Nine year old Alec Grevens book How to Talk to Girls
is to be published on Valentines Day by Harper Collins Children´s Books in the UK. The New York Times Bestseller written by the schoolboy offers readers dating advice that was originally penned for a school project. Thee book created a media sensation in the US when it was published there in November 2008 and spent five weeks on the NYT Bestseller list. Greven lives in Castle Rock, Colorado, with his family and his book gives straight-talking advice to boys of all ages on how to get a girl to like one, based on observations from his school playground. The tips include: "If you like a girl, comb your hair. You don´t have to try too hard, but just try to look kind of clean." "Whatever happens, just don´t act desperate. Girls don´t like desperate boys." "You have to get over a crush if it doesn´t work out. A crush is like a love disease. It can drive you mad."
Nine year old Alec Grevens book How to Talk to Girls
is to be published on Valentines Day by Harper Collins Children´s Books in the UK. The New York Times Bestseller written by the schoolboy offers readers dating advice that was originally penned for a school project. Thee book created a media sensation in the US when it was published there in November 2008 and spent five weeks on the NYT Bestseller list. Greven lives in Castle Rock, Colorado, with his family and his book gives straight-talking advice to boys of all ages on how to get a girl to like one, based on observations from his school playground. The tips include: "If you like a girl, comb your hair. You don´t have to try too hard, but just try to look kind of clean." "Whatever happens, just don´t act desperate. Girls don´t like desperate boys." "You have to get over a crush if it doesn´t work out. A crush is like a love disease. It can drive you mad."
I am refusing to read this book!!!
This is really forreallove.....he is a 32 year old Turk from Istanbul....don´t be fooled by the picture!
What´s wrong with that post by Turk123 redirecting browser to the site with online petition. I don´t like it, mods should delete it. I think it´s enough if he gives a link
What´s wrong with that post by Turk123 redirecting browser to the site with online petition. I don´t like it, mods should delete it. I think it´s enough if he gives a link
Seems like I missed all the action today. Apparently, I had this happen to me here some time ago..it get´s even better they also managed to hack into my yahoo account. I went to log in one day and saw that I was already logged in......
Seems like I missed all the action today. Apparently, I had this happen to me here some time ago..it get´s even better they also managed to hack into my yahoo account. I went to log in one day and saw that I was already logged in......
Did you manage to hold an interesting convrsation with yourself then?
Pakistan: Taliban forces closure of girls´ schools in north
Mingora, 16 Jan. (AKI) - Around 400 private girls´ schools in Pakistan´s restive northwestern Swat district have closed to comply with a Taliban deadline which expired on Thursday. Some parents have even begun moving to other parts of the country where their girls can attend school, Pakistan´s Geo News reported on Friday.
The closure of the private schools will deprive more than 40,000 students of their basic right to education. In addition, 84,248 girls students in state-run schools are unlikely to attend class because of fear of attacks by militants.
Private school owners in Swat say the schools will not reopen until the unrest in the picturesque valley ends or the Taliban revokes the ban.
School owners in Mingora, Swat´s central administrative district, say that even if they kept the schools open, parents would be unlikely to send their children there.
There are over 350 privately-owned schools in Swat, each with separate sections for boys and girls, according to data available from a local association of schools.
Over the past year, the Taliban has ordered most of the schools to close and destroyed nearly 150 schools.
Pakistani daily The News reported that following appeals to the Taliban, it has softened its stance, allowing girls to attain education up to the fourth grade.
However, local militant leader Maulana Fazlullah has renewed the Taliban´s threat to bomb educational institutions including 20 colleges, if any school continues to provide secondary education for the girls.
The Taliban´s central spokesman, Maulvi Omar, has distanced his movement from Taliban militants in Swat over their ban on girls´ schooling and urged Fazullah to withdraw the ban, The News reported.
Private schools also urged to the militants to withdraw the ultimatum in the interests of hundreds of female teachers, most of them lone breadwinners, as well as those of many thousands of female students affected by the ban.
When I read things like this I wonder what people think: should the world interfere because of rights of girls or is it just none of ´our´ business? Is it correct that western countries try to change or do ´they´ have the right of their own decisions? I know my answer...
There are no less than 5 threads about the Israeli / Gaza conflict.
Just a statement!
you don´t say...I think all those threads should be put inyto one so that this forum is not littered like it is now Even Femme has to post one and the same thing in all Gaza topics. Lret´s have just one for Ros to paste news...
you don´t say...I think all those threads should be put inyto one so that this forum is not littered like it is now Even Femme has to post one and the same thing in all Gaza topics. Lret´s have just one for Ros to paste news...
Some forums do that when threads about one topig get scattered all over. I really wish people would just post a paragraph or two and a link to the rest, instead of the whole article.
Some forums do that when threads about one topig get scattered all over. I really wish people would just post a paragraph or two and a link to the rest, instead of the whole article.
Some forums do that when threads about one topig get scattered all over. I really wish people would just post a paragraph or two and a link to the rest, instead of the whole article.
Quoting Daydreamer
exactly
+100000000000000
It´s not like we don´t ask them time and time again -
GENEVA (AP) — A Swiss lawyer working on behalf of the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday his client will seek political asylum in Switzerland.
GENEVA (AP) — A Swiss lawyer working on behalf of the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday his client will seek political asylum in Switzerland.
Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice! I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught. If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them. Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????
GENEVA (AP) — A Swiss lawyer working on behalf of the Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday his client will seek political asylum in Switzerland.
Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice! I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught. If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them. Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????
Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice! I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught. If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them. Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????
in order to obtain a political assylum you dont have to necessarily reach the borders of a certain country. you simply go to the embassy of that country. many political assylum seekers were offered places to live at the embassies.
i cant afford a swiss solicitor, but he can. hes now a well-known political figure. if i were a lawyer i too would want to represent him. why? hes a good source of money. soon in the future he may write a book or [script] to a movie.
Not sure how someone can seek Political Asylum when they are not able to get to the country of choice! I was under the assumtion that you had to reach that country first and claim asylum at the border or where ever you got to within the country before getting caught. If this is allowed then that will open up the flood gates of people in prisions employing foreign solicitors and claiming asylum through them. Anyway, how can he afford a Swiss solicitor?????
Giant panda Dudu plays at Zhengzhou Zoo in Zhengzhou, capital of central China´s Henan Provnice, Jan. 17, 2009. The 18-year-old Dudu seems far more popular due to her child "Yuan Yuan" which has been donated to Taiwan along with the other giant panda "Tuan Tuan".
Giant panda Dudu plays at Zhengzhou Zoo in Zhengzhou, capital of central China´s Henan Provnice, Jan. 17, 2009. The 18-year-old Dudu seems far more popular due to her child "Yuan Yuan" which has been donated to Taiwan along with the other giant panda "Tuan Tuan".
A nude photo of Madonna, taken before erotic songs and risque costumes catapulted her to superstardom, is expected to sell for at least $10,000, Christie´s auction house says.
The raw, full frontal black-and-white image, taken by Lee Friedlander, appeared in Playboy in 1985 and is to be auctioned Feb. 12. Madonna was a 20-year-old dancer trying to make ends meet when she answered Friedlander´s newspaper ad seeking a nude model, said Matthieu Humery, head of Christie´s photography department.
I am sure there must be a relation between "hairies" and "pandas"
Perhaps we shouldn´t shake handsoms family tree to hard....we don´t know what will fall out! Before you know it, he will be claiming that Pandas are really from Turkey and that the Chinese stole them from Anatolia!
A woman became so sick of her constantly malfunctioning washing machine that she took drastic action and held the repair man hostage
She barricaded herself against the door and refused to let the Currys engineer out of her home.
The engineer believed he had found the root of the problem when the extricated a two pence coin from the machine.
But when he started to pack up his equipment, Mrs Fox insisted he take a more thorough look. She told the repair man he could not leave and blocked his exit by sitting in front of her back door.
heh heh...... been tempted more than once....every time they go fo a part they never come back!!!
A nude photo of Madonna, taken before erotic songs and risque costumes catapulted her to superstardom, is expected to sell for at least $10,000, Christie´s auction house says.
The raw, full frontal black-and-white image, taken by Lee Friedlander, appeared in Playboy in 1985 and is to be auctioned Feb. 12. Madonna was a 20-year-old dancer trying to make ends meet when she answered Friedlander´s newspaper ad seeking a nude model, said Matthieu Humery, head of Christie´s photography department.
Turkish woman living in cave who collects hair...OMG I was watching a program last night that talked about a woman living in Turkey who collects hair. She has thousands of pieces of hair stapled to paper with peoples names of who she collected hanging in a cave.....Has anyone heard about this?
Turkish woman living in cave who collects hair...OMG I was watching a program last night that talked about a woman living in Turkey who collects hair. She has thousands of pieces of hair stapled to paper with peoples names of who she collected hanging in a cave.....Has anyone heard about this?
I am sure that handsom avoids this cave like the plague!
Turkish woman living in cave who collects hair...OMG I was watching a program last night that talked about a woman living in Turkey who collects hair. She has thousands of pieces of hair stapled to paper with peoples names of who she collected hanging in a cave.....Has anyone heard about this?
I found this about it:
July 20--Pots, Hair and Paranoia
We pack up and cycle to the town of Avanos, which is famous for it´s pottery. We visit numerous pottery shops, all with ancient underground rooms and chambers filled with jars, urns, bowls, plates and sculptures for sale, many exquisitly glazed with bright colors and elaborately detailed patterns.
One shop even has a hair museum. About 20 years ago a French woman came for the summer to learn pottery making at the shop. When she left she cut a small lock of hair and stuck it to a wall with her name on a card "so the owner would always remember her." A week later another foreign woman saw the hair, asked what it was, and decided to cut her own lock of hair and left it with her name tag. So started the hair museum cave. The last time anyone counted, in 1996, there were 16,000 locks of hair. Today the museum occupies three underground chambers, the walls and ceiling covered with fuzzy whisps of hair hanging like tendrils from yellowing papers listing names of women around the world. Each year the owner picks one name and the "winner" gets a week long all expenses paid vacation to Cappadocia. It is fascinating yet creepy, and yes, Tass leaves a small lock of hair.
We pack up and cycle to the town of Avanos, which is famous for it´s pottery. We visit numerous pottery shops, all with ancient underground rooms and chambers filled with jars, urns, bowls, plates and sculptures for sale, many exquisitly glazed with bright colors and elaborately detailed patterns.
One shop even has a hair museum. About 20 years ago a French woman came for the summer to learn pottery making at the shop. When she left she cut a small lock of hair and stuck it to a wall with her name on a card "so the owner would always remember her." A week later another foreign woman saw the hair, asked what it was, and decided to cut her own lock of hair and left it with her name tag. So started the hair museum cave. The last time anyone counted, in 1996, there were 16,000 locks of hair. Today the museum occupies three underground chambers, the walls and ceiling covered with fuzzy whisps of hair hanging like tendrils from yellowing papers listing names of women around the world. Each year the owner picks one name and the "winner" gets a week long all expenses paid vacation to Cappadocia. It is fascinating yet creepy, and yes, Tass leaves a small lock of hair.
Having to deliver the news to all colleagues that all increases for this year are frozen, based on the economy.. Could be worse I could be telling them they don´t have a job.
Having to deliver the news to all colleagues that all increases for this year are frozen, based on the economy.. Could be worse I could be telling them they don´t have a job.
Ouh sorry teas, that´s a tough one but you are right....there could be worse news to deliver.
Yeh, well I already knew that! I was just joking on the Scottish Highland thing!!! btw French has always been a bit strange And the way that women is grabbing those horns.........
Yeh, well I already knew that! I was just joking on the Scottish Highland thing!!! btw French has always been a bit strange And the way that women is grabbing those horns.........
Well so did I as I read the link to the picture when Ros posted it and also read the explanation here (which she didn´t post!) I thought I was being sarcastic - damn ...must be losing my touch
heh heh I heard a "light beating" in some situations is enjoyable.....
No only joking....very serious matter and it is still major problem in some groups that think this is acceptable behaviour from the men .....and that the woman do not have a voice to prevent it happening...... I know that London heathcare trusts are working closely with police to prevent this happening....especially to pregnant woman which is becoming more and more common
KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Shivering in pain and calling for her mother, Shamsia´s hands shake uncontrollably, her eyes swollen shut and her skin peeling from terrible acid burns.
Shamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.
The 19-year-old was heading to school along with her 16-year-old sister, Atifa, in Kandahar, Afghanistan. It was a warm November morning last year and their only anxiety was being late for class.
"We saw two men up ahead staring at us. One was standing off and the other one was on their motorcycle. I wanted to go but there was a black object in his hand and he took it out," Atifa says.
The girls thought it was a water pistol.
"He grabbed my arm and asked, ´Will you be going to school anymore?´ He then threw acid on my sister and threw acid on me," Shamsia says.
It´s not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls´ schools and female teachers, but even they condemned this attack.
Educated women must be seen as a major threat to attract this sort of violence....... despicable
Forget about crawling. A spider discovered in the Sahara Desert moves by doing a series of hand springs across the sand -- and travels surprisingly fast. Bionics experts think the method could be used for future Mars explorer vehicles.
There is a video of spider on the page. Not youtube.
Forget about crawling. A spider discovered in the Sahara Desert moves by doing a series of hand springs across the sand -- and travels surprisingly fast. Bionics experts think the method could be used for future Mars explorer vehicles.
There is a video of spider on the page. Not youtube.
brainless tami wants american and british troops to withdraw so that these girls could be handed over to taliban rapists. does he realize that afghanistan is a hell? i guess he doesnt. all he cares is to tease tc ladies. to spew hatred on the west (without which he wouldnt be doing what he is doing).
why dont islamic leaders (who dont rest in propaganda about how peaceful, wonderful and beautiful the islam is) never issue fatwa on osama ben laden or other terrorists but instead they issue fatwas on people like salman rushdie or ayan hirsi?
is it because osama and other terrorists fullfil mohammeds commandments?
Quoting lessluv
It´s not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls´ schools and female teachers, but even they condemned this attack.
Educated women must be seen as a major threat to attract this sort of violence....... despicable
KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Shivering in pain and calling for her mother, Shamsia´s hands shake uncontrollably, her eyes swollen shut and her skin peeling from terrible acid burns.
Shamsia and Atifa remain determined to get their education despite the attacks.
The 19-year-old was heading to school along with her 16-year-old sister, Atifa, in Kandahar, Afghanistan. It was a warm November morning last year and their only anxiety was being late for class.
"We saw two men up ahead staring at us. One was standing off and the other one was on their motorcycle. I wanted to go but there was a black object in his hand and he took it out," Atifa says.
The girls thought it was a water pistol.
"He grabbed my arm and asked, ´Will you be going to school anymore?´ He then threw acid on my sister and threw acid on me," Shamsia says.
It´s not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls´ schools and female teachers, but even they condemned this attack.
Educated women must be seen as a major threat to attract this sort of violence....... despicable
According to their belief Allah will punish them if they did something wrong (and I refuse to believe it isn´t wrong!). I can´t wait for that moment to come asap!!
According to their belief Allah will punish them if they did something wrong (and I refuse to believe it isn´t wrong!). I can´t wait for that moment to come asap!!
you have no idea what you ve written, trudy. yes they (females) will be punished by allah and will be sent to hell. because according to allah women are less intelligent therefore they dont need to be educated. do you think talibs dont know what they are doing? they are confident they are doing the correct thing - because they are the real muslims living according to the 7th century culture and practising islam in a pure way, except the kinds of weapon they use now (made by evil kafirs) and the acid.
you have no idea what you ve written, trudy. yes they (females) will be punished by allah and will be sent to hell. because according to allah women are less intelligent therefore they dont need to be educated. do you think talibs dont know what they are doing? they are confident they are doing the correct thing - because they are the real muslims living according to the 7th century culture and practising islam in a pure way, except the kinds of weapon they use now (made by evil kafirs) and the acid.
Sorry femme, if I was not very well understandable (good excuse: English is not my native language ), but of course I meant with ´they´ not these girls/women but those morons who used acid. I feel the urge to go back to medieval punihments like beheading, quarter, wheeling etc. Would these guys understand that?
Could have been worse he could have used his rifle on him.. It reminds me of our American baseball teams. When the fans get frustrated at times they tend to throw things at the players. The players are not permitted to throw anything back, but on a occassion they do and they suffer a hefty fine. I actually don´t blame the players....
Sorry femme, if I was not very well understandable (good excuse: English is not my native language ), but of course I meant with ´they´ not these girls/women but those morons who used acid. I feel the urge to go back to medieval punihments like beheading, quarter, wheeling etc. Would these guys understand that?
Islamic cleric advises worshippers to rape and beat wives
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Self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza, who runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia in Melbourne, advised a male audience in Sydney in 2003 that they could force their wives to have sex and beat them if they were "disobedient".
In a lecture titled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", which has since been posted on the internet and viewed thousands of times, Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, "to shape them up", but should try not to draw blood or bruise them.
He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage.
"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn´t got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape," Mr Hamza said.
"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?" ....
In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners "don´t hit your wife".
But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
He says it is permissible to hit women as a "last resort" but that "the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth".
"You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.
"You don´t go and grab a broomstick and say that is what Allah has said."
Islamic cleric advises worshippers to rape and beat wives
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Self-styled cleric Samir Abu Hamza, who runs the Islamic Information and Services Network of Australasia in Melbourne, advised a male audience in Sydney in 2003 that they could force their wives to have sex and beat them if they were "disobedient".
In a lecture titled "The Keys to a Successful Marriage", which has since been posted on the internet and viewed thousands of times, Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, "to shape them up", but should try not to draw blood or bruise them.
He also said women "must respond" if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage.
"In this country if the husband wants to sleep with his wife and she does not want to and she hasn´t got a sickness or whatever, there is nothing wrong with her she just does not feel like it, and he ends up sleeping with her by force ... it is known to be as rape," Mr Hamza said.
"Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?" ....
In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners "don´t hit your wife".
But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.
He says it is permissible to hit women as a "last resort" but that "the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth".
"You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed.
"You don´t go and grab a broomstick and say that is what Allah has said."
Marnie Pearce, 40, had her jail sentence reduced from six to three months by Dubai´s Appeal Court, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said.
She was also ordered to pay a fine of 3,000 dirhams and will be deported.
Ms Pearce, originally from Bracknell, Berkshire, was found guilty of adultery by a Dubai court in November after being accused of cheating on her Egyptian ex-husband.
Marnie Pearce, 40, had her jail sentence reduced from six to three months by Dubai´s Appeal Court, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said.
She was also ordered to pay a fine of 3,000 dirhams and will be deported.
Ms Pearce, originally from Bracknell, Berkshire, was found guilty of adultery by a Dubai court in November after being accused of cheating on her Egyptian ex-husband.
How can they accuse her, when it is her ex-husband? Their marriage broke up before the trial, wasn´t it?
yes but the complaint was about when they were married..... it seems to me this was enforcing a way to get custody of the children....with her out of the way and now with a criminal record she has less strength in her fight ..
yes but the complaint was about when they were married..... it seems to me this was enforcing a way to get custody of the children....with her out of the way and now with a criminal record she has less strength in her fight ..
Unfortunately it is a risk that women take when marrying into a culture such as this, where men have the most rights. Love is not enough, calculation of the risks should be applied!
Unfortunately it is a risk that women take when marrying into a culture such as this, where men have the most rights. Love is not enough, calculation of the risks should be applied!
I think this has nothing to do with culture but rather with the law. When marrying someone, one does that according to a certain law therefore for divorce/ child custody the law that is applied is the same as the law that was applied for marriage.
To give an example, since this is a recurrent problem in lebanon, 2 lebanese who were married in cyprus under the chypriot law, in case of dicorce the court dont follow the lebanese law but rather the chypriot law. It is a contract like any other contract and in order to break it you follow the law under which it was established at the first place.
So if the lady go married in dubai following the emirates law, in case of divorce , child custody, inheritance, etc etc they will follow the emirati law! It is that simple and has nothing to do with culture. Now to say that the law is affected by the culture that is true.
As for adultary, one has to abide with the laws of the country they live in. She took the risk and she has to pay the price.
I dont say that this is correct but knowing where you live why take risks!
I dont go live in saudia for example and walk without the head cover and when arrested I shout "bad culture" or whatever. I dont go there at the first place!
Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.
Vigilantes seized the black and white goat, saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into an animal to escape after trying to steal a Mazda 323.
Police in Nigeria are holding a goat on suspicion of attempted armed robbery.
Vigilantes seized the black and white goat, saying it was an armed robber who had used black magic to transform himself into an animal to escape after trying to steal a Mazda 323.
A young Polish woman who was forced to give birth on the London Underground has revealed how she was sent away from a leading maternity hospital just two hours before her baby was born.
Julita Kowalska, 26, became the first woman in 84 years recorded as giving birth on the Tube when her daughter Jennifer was born at Kingsbury, North London, on the evening of December 19 last year.
Earlier that night Julita had been taken by ambulance from her home in North London, to St Mary’s Hospital in Paddington, West London, where Prince William and Prince Harry were delivered.
The only other recorded birth on the Tube was in 1924 when a woman called Daisy Hammond gave birth to baby Marie on a Bakerloo Line train at Elephant and Castle station.
A young Polish woman who was forced to give birth on the London Underground has revealed how she was sent away from a leading maternity hospital just two hours before her baby was born.
Julita Kowalska, 26, became the first woman in 84 years recorded as giving birth on the Tube when her daughter Jennifer was born at Kingsbury, North London, on the evening of December 19 last year.
Earlier that night Julita had been taken by ambulance from her home in North London, to St Mary’s Hospital in Paddington, West London, where Prince William and Prince Harry were delivered.
The only other recorded birth on the Tube was in 1924 when a woman called Daisy Hammond gave birth to baby Marie on a Bakerloo Line train at Elephant and Castle station.
Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.
Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.
A BLIND man has hit out at two cabbies who refused to carry him and his guide dog.
Jon Prashar, 45, was turned away twice outside Rochdale railway station as he tried to travel to a conference with his dog, Amber.
A quick-thinking colleague took a note of the taxis´ registration numbers and an investigation was launched by council officials. The drivers, Talib Hussain, 51 and Mohammed Idress, 37, were tracked down and prosecuted in a landmark case for Rochdale council.
Jon, who has been blind since birth, said: "When we approached the first taxi I could hear the driver say ´no dog´. Boot
"He then said Amber could go in the boot. I asked if it was an estate car because that would have been fine but it wasn´t. There´s no way she was going in a closed boot - she´d have freaked out.
"He then went to speak to the driver behind him and the pair of them drove off. Fortunately my colleague got their registration numbers. We had to get a black cab."
Jon, who works in marketing, said: "To be fair to the drivers they were both very pleasant.
"When they knew I was taking action one drove to my house to apologise. I don´t think they were being malicious and they do a very unpleasant job. But something needs to be done to stop this from happening again."
A number of Muslim drivers have expressed concern about carrying guide dogs in their cabs. Dogs are generally not allowed inside Islamic houses as they are considered unclean. (yes, once a self-proclaimed profit hated dogs now all his followers are to hate them)
Mosques
However, the Muslim Council of Britain has issued guidance saying Islamic law DOES allow guide dogs to be carried in cabs. They have even been allowed into mosques in the past.
Mike Tyerman, from the Greater Manchester´s Guide Dogs for the Blind Association, agreed. He said: "I think it tends to be individual drivers and a misunderstanding from a religious context.
"We get a lot of concern from the Muslim community but when you talk to anyone well versed in Muslim texts they say guide dogs and working dogs should be no problem."
Mr Hussain, of Chevron Close, Marland, Rochdale, was fined £125. Mr Idress, of Bolton Road, Sudden, Rochdale, was fined £100. Both were ordered to pay £128 costs at Rochdale Magistrates Court.
Dr. Harold Henry and Dr. Karen E. Maples, both gynocologists at Kaiser Permanente in Bellflower, said that the eight babies were healthy and the mother was doing well.
OMG that´s uncomprehensible! I´m having cold feet about getting pregnant again after one pregnancy, having octuplets... how did she manage to walk? And how will she manage to feed them and nurse them? It´s hard enough with one baby at home. And then think about adolescence and puberty...
Israeli students call Barak ´murderer´ Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak has cancelled his visit to a university in Tel Aviv after being called a ´murderer´ by the students.
Barak canceled his visit to Tel Aviv University´s Law Department, after a graffiti sprayed on the walls of the building called him a ´murderer´, Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot reported Monday.
The incident came after Israel launched a unilateral all-out military offensive against the Gaza Strip, killing at least 1,300 people including women and children.
The graffiti was drawn on the entryway to the Law Department ahead of the defense minister´s visit.
Tel Aviv has been internationally condemned for launching the war on Gaza which eventually failed to achieve even the primary goals set in the beginning of offensive.
This is the result of an investigation done for the first timeby institu Ipso and the international association of incest victims. The final report is presented wednesday to the parliament "assemblee generale"
The American broadcaster NBC has rejected a provocative TV advert for PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals - on the grounds that it is too sexy. .. The scenes include a blindfolded woman who erupts with delight after spending a little "quality" time with her asparagus and a woman who performs a seductive dance with a squash.
The ad concludes with the message "Studies show vegetarians have better sex."
PETA says that vegetarians tend to be on average fitter and slimmer than meat eaters and therefore better in bed.
They also say people who eat meat and dairy products are more likely to have heart disease, be obese, and suffer from impotence. .. Senior Vice President Lisa Lange said; ""PETA´s veggie ads are denied airtime while ads for fried chicken and burgers are allowed—even though these foods make Americans fat, sick, and boring in bed."
NBC was planning to show the advert, put together by animal charity PETA, during this Sunday´s Superbowl extravaganza - an event watched by more than 70million Americans. But it has refused to air the ´Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex´ advert unless certain shots - including a model licking a pumpkin and a model rubbing asparagus over her lap - are removed
The American broadcaster NBC has rejected a provocative TV advert for PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals - on the grounds that it is too sexy. .. The scenes include a blindfolded woman who erupts with delight after spending a little "quality" time with her asparagus and a woman who performs a seductive dance with a squash.
The ad concludes with the message "Studies show vegetarians have better sex."
PETA says that vegetarians tend to be on average fitter and slimmer than meat eaters and therefore better in bed.
They also say people who eat meat and dairy products are more likely to have heart disease, be obese, and suffer from impotence. .. Senior Vice President Lisa Lange said; ""PETA´s veggie ads are denied airtime while ads for fried chicken and burgers are allowed—even though these foods make Americans fat, sick, and boring in bed."
NBC was planning to show the advert, put together by animal charity PETA, during this Sunday´s Superbowl extravaganza - an event watched by more than 70million Americans. But it has refused to air the ´Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex´ advert unless certain shots - including a model licking a pumpkin and a model rubbing asparagus over her lap - are removed
The American broadcaster NBC has rejected a provocative TV advert for PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment for Animals - on the grounds that it is too sexy. .. The scenes include a blindfolded woman who erupts with delight after spending a little "quality" time with her asparagus and a woman who performs a seductive dance with a squash.
The ad concludes with the message "Studies show vegetarians have better sex."
PETA says that vegetarians tend to be on average fitter and slimmer than meat eaters and therefore better in bed.
They also say people who eat meat and dairy products are more likely to have heart disease, be obese, and suffer from impotence. .. Senior Vice President Lisa Lange said; ""PETA´s veggie ads are denied airtime while ads for fried chicken and burgers are allowed—even though these foods make Americans fat, sick, and boring in bed."
NBC was planning to show the advert, put together by animal charity PETA, during this Sunday´s Superbowl extravaganza - an event watched by more than 70million Americans. But it has refused to air the ´Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex´ advert unless certain shots - including a model licking a pumpkin and a model rubbing asparagus over her lap - are removed
OMG that´s uncomprehensible! I´m having cold feet about getting pregnant again after one pregnancy, having octuplets... how did she manage to walk? And how will she manage to feed them and nurse them? It´s hard enough with one baby at home. And then think about adolescence and puberty...
It gets even better....this woman already has SIX other children at home!
Why, why, whyyyyyyy would she use fertility drugs when you have 6 children already?
It gets even better....this woman already has SIX other children at home!
Why, why, whyyyyyyy would she use fertility drugs when you have 6 children already?
It is completely irresponsible - she had fertility treatment "somewhere" which she is keeping secret and was already 12 weeks pregnant with the 8 feotus before she went to see the doctor. She is keeping anonymous at the moment, but it will only be a matter of time.
It is completely irresponsible - she had fertility treatment "somewhere" which she is keeping secret and was already 12 weeks pregnant with the 8 feotus before she went to see the doctor. She is keeping anonymous at the moment, but it will only be a matter of time.
How could any responsible physician be involved in this type of fertility treatment?
Used as a cure all in rural parts of Korea, it´s made by stuffing a hoard of two to three day old mice into a bottle of rice wine and leaving it to stew for, ooh, a good year or so.
She´s probably banking the kindness of the public, who always seem to be more than willing to donate to these baby machines............or her own TV show on TLC
Hannah Arendt (October 14, 1906 – December 4, 1975) was an influential German-Jewish political theorist. She has often been described as a philosopher, although she always refused that label on the grounds that philosophy is concerned with "man in the singular." She described herself instead as a political theorist because her work centers on the fact that "men, not Man, live on the earth and inhabit the world.
Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil is a book written by political theorist Hannah Arendt, originally published in 1963. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Hitler´s rise to power, reported on Adolf Eichmann´s trial for The New Yorker
Canadian woman admits she strangled daughter to keep boyfriend
A woman from Bridgewater, N.S., has been handed a life sentence with no parole eligibility for 20 years for strangling her only child after her boyfriend gave her an ultimatum.
Penny Boudreau, 34, pleaded guilty Friday to second-degree murder in the death of 12-year-old Karissa Boudreau.
The girl´s frozen body was found on the outskirts of Bridgewater on Feb. 9, 2008, about two weeks after her mother reported her missing.
Boudreau, wearing a black T-shirt and jeans, told the court, "I´m sorry."
When asked about the apology, Paul Boudreau, Karissa´s father, said bluntly: "Crocodile tears."
"Justice has been served," he added.
Justice Margaret Stewart, who handed down the sentence at the Nova Scotia Supreme Court in Bridgewater, said the horrible crime merited a harsh sentence.
"You can never call yourself mother in conjunction with Karissa´s name again," Stewart said.
Karissa´s relatives sobbed loudly as Crown attorney Paul Scovil read out the grim details of the girl´s final moments in an agreed statement of facts.
The court heard that Boudreau´s boyfriend, Vernon Macumber, told her she had to choose between him and her daughter if she wanted to save their relationship.
Canadian woman admits she strangled daughter to keep boyfriend
A woman from Bridgewater, N.S., has been handed a life sentence with no parole eligibility for 20 years for strangling her only child after her boyfriend gave her an ultimatum.
Penny Boudreau, 34, pleaded guilty Friday to second-degree murder in the death of 12-year-old Karissa Boudreau.
The girl´s frozen body was found on the outskirts of Bridgewater on Feb. 9, 2008, about two weeks after her mother reported her missing.
Boudreau, wearing a black T-shirt and jeans, told the court, "I´m sorry."
When asked about the apology, Paul Boudreau, Karissa´s father, said bluntly: "Crocodile tears."
"Justice has been served," he added.
Justice Margaret Stewart, who handed down the sentence at the Nova Scotia Supreme Court in Bridgewater, said the horrible crime merited a harsh sentence.
"You can never call yourself mother in conjunction with Karissa´s name again," Stewart said.
Karissa´s relatives sobbed loudly as Crown attorney Paul Scovil read out the grim details of the girl´s final moments in an agreed statement of facts.
The court heard that Boudreau´s boyfriend, Vernon Macumber, told her she had to choose between him and her daughter if she wanted to save their relationship.
this story doesn´t bear thinking about.....to take the life of a child, your own child in exchange for a man definately not worth anything to be making those sort of ultimatums..... I really don´t know what can be in the heads of these people
despite late hours in egypt canli is still here to watch my posts and if necessary to delete in case my posts pose a threat to her cocooned culture and thinking on which word to pick again in order to ban.
this story doesn´t bear thinking about.....to take the life of a child, your own child in exchange for a man definately not worth anything to be making those sort of ultimatums..... I really don´t know what can be in the heads of these people
This is a horrendous story! I actually think it is something to really ponder. What depths of depravity can some sink to? What has happened to basic humanity, what about mother instinct? Something here went very bezerk.
This is a horrendous story! I actually think it is something to really ponder. What depths of depravity can some sink to? What has happened to basic humanity, what about mother instinct? Something here went very bezerk.
This is sick and repulsive, I hate even reading such stories. Life is not fair, some people cannot have a child and some treat parenthood like garbage...I wish there was a test for parenthood, some people do not deserve to be called people
This is sick and repulsive, I hate even reading such stories. Life is not fair, some people cannot have a child and some treat parenthood like garbage...I wish there was a test for parenthood, some people do not deserve to be called people
grr now have 8 inches of snow...... buses have decided to suspend all routes....the council only grit the roads that buses go on and as they have been suspended, the roads are not being cleared therefore I´m in for a treacherous drive at end of shift that is if any of my colleagues make it here otherwise I´m here for a double shift.....booooooo
Hmmm are we really in the 21st century????
Edited (2/2/2009) by lessluv
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well just who do these guys think they are talking to
Bank tells staff: Don´t forget the lipstick, girls
The Bank of England came under fire last night for "institutional sexism", after it held a seminar for female staff to advise them on what clothing, shoes and make-up to wear.
A memo leaked from the meeting details the advice given to staff, including the warning that wearing certain accessories would make women workers look like prostitutes.
"Look professional, not fashionable; be careful with perfume; always wear a heel of some sort – maximum two inches; always wear some sort of makeup, even if it´s just lipstick," read the memo. It was distributed by the professional image consultancy firm hired by the bank for the event.
"Shoes and skirt must be the same colour. No-nos include ankle chains – "professional, but not the one you want to be associated with" – white high heels; overstuffed handbags; an overload of rings, and double-pierced ears," it continued.
booo , just done a night shift ....no staff have been able to get into work so have to stay indefinately I am very very tired and not happy about driving in snow
grr now have 8 inches of snow...... buses have decided to suspend all routes....the council only grit the roads that buses go on and as they have been suspended, the roads are not being cleared therefore I´m in for a treacherous drive at end of shift that is if any of my colleagues make it here otherwise I´m here for a double shift.....booooooo
Hmmm are we really in the 21st century????
ha ha..
Lessluv, you are much better than bbc´s weather pages..
booo , just done a night shift ....no staff have been able to get into work so have to stay indefinately I am very very tired and not happy about driving in snow
stop moaning lessluv. be morelove say: oh, how wonderful! how beautiful! finally some true winter!
5cm of snow, and its a national tragedy, schools are closed a pure anecdote.
Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass
why silly?
love is love
love never can be silly
it can be blind
btw, i dont think the google translator will be of much help since the dudus dont even try to write their lovely messages correctly in turkish. automatic translators arent good at guessing, you know
unbelievable a little snow causes such disaster and chaos. i think its exaggerated.
wheres common sense?
because it only happen once every few decades the governments will not hold funds for contingency plans so even though we knew this would happen they all decide to stick their head in the sand and pretend it won´t happen , causing this chaos....no transportation links , no children able to be at school, therefore no parents able to go to work and that in turn causes capital shutdown ....unable to provide essential services , woohoo don´t you just love it!!
The snow! Having moved desks again (5 times in 16 months) I now have a window view and can sit and look at the snow all day long
And whilst on the subject, a few piddly cms and we grind to a halt. I deliberately left my house early this morning, in my sensible clothes with a shovel in my car, ready for the worst!!! And what happened? Nothing, nicely gritted clear roads...............
Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass
Quoting femmeous
btw, i dont think the google translator will be of much help since the dudus dont even try to write their lovely messages correctly in turkish. automatic translators arent good at guessing, you know
I thought I´d try a little experiment with something already translated on TC
Translation request: ´denemi isterdim ben hep senin nefesin kadar yakininda olacagim gokyuzunden sana bakacagim beni asla unutma´
Translated by Marion (one of our best) as: ´I wanted you to try it. I will be as close to you as your breath. I will look out for you from the heavens. never forget me.
Google translation: ´your breath as much as I like the experiment I always look yakininda me I will never forget you gokyuzunden´
Hmm...difficult to know which one to choose isn´t it??
Edited (2/2/2009) by lady in red
[Added some text (wanted to try out modify like everyone else!)]
Google Translate will be able to translate to Turkish now i think this will affect number of silly translation asking on Turkishclass
I thought I´d try a little experiment with something already translated on TC
Translation request: ´denemi isterdim ben hep senin nefesin kadar yakininda olacagim gokyuzunden sana bakacagim beni asla unutma´
Translated by Marion (one of our best) as: ´I wanted you to try it. I will be as close to you as your breath. I will look out for you from the heavens. never forget me.
Google translation: ´your breath as much as I like the experiment I always look yakininda me I will never forget you gokyuzunden´
Hmm...difficult to know which one to choose isn´t it??
ouh i am laughing out loud here but grammar in turkish message is really bad it is not google´s fault i
Here´s another try from google translation service.
ÃRAN GELECEKTE EN GÜÇLÜ DEVLET OLACAK
Ãran´Ã½n Türkiye´den daha iyi bir konumda olduðunu nanoteknolojiyi kullanan, nükleer silah yapan bir ülke olduðunu hatýrlatan Göksel, "Bizdeki gibi türban ile uðraþmýyorlar. Onlarda türbanýn alasý var ama bilimin de alasý var. Ãran büyük bir devlettir. Dikkat ederseniz kimse Ãran´a dalaþamýyor. ABD ve Ãsrail´in Ãran´a vuracaðýný ýsrarla iddia ediyorum ancak Ãran´Ã½ yýkamayacaklar. Ãran gelecekte bu coðrafya da en güçlü devlet olacak."
Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönemin Erbakan hükümeti dönemi olduðunu anlatan Göksel, "Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönem Refah-Yol dönemidir. Geçen yýlki araþtýrmamda Erbakan´a özür borcum olarak büyük harflarle belirttim. Erbakan iç borçlanmayý kýrmaya çalýþtý. AKP müthiþ bir iç borç bataðýnda. 2003´ün Ocak ayýnda toplam 85 milyar dolar iç ve dýþ borç vardý. Þimdi 300 milyar dolarýn üstünde. Peki ne yaptý AKP hükümeti? 3-5 tane duble yol, bana bir tane fabrika gösterin." (CÃHAN)
IRAN NEXT GOVERNMENT WILL BE MOST POWERFUL in
Iran Turkey better be in a position that uses nanotechnology, nuclear weapons, a country that is reminiscent Göksel, "We like this do not deal with turban. They take the time turban, but science has time to purchase. Iran is a big state. Caution If anybody Iran ´ not a battle. U.S. and Israel will strike Iran, but Iran insists that the allegations would not collapse. Iran in the future this part will be the most powerful state. "
Malaysia´s best managed of the period, the period of the Erbakan government is describing Göksel, "Turkey is the best managed-term welfare is the way the period. Last year´s research to Erbakan excuse me as my debt harflarle I have declared the major. Erbakan to internal borrowing was trying to break. AKP into a great the debt quagmire. In January 2003 total domestic and external debt was 85 billion dollars. Now, on top of 300 billion dollars. So what did the AKP government? 3-5 double one way, show me one factory. " (CIHAN)
Here´s another try from google translation service.
ÃRAN GELECEKTE EN GÜÇLÜ DEVLET OLACAK
Ãran´Ã½n Türkiye´den daha iyi bir konumda olduðunu nanoteknolojiyi kullanan, nükleer silah yapan bir ülke olduðunu hatýrlatan Göksel, "Bizdeki gibi türban ile uðraþmýyorlar. Onlarda türbanýn alasý var ama bilimin de alasý var. Ãran büyük bir devlettir. Dikkat ederseniz kimse Ãran´a dalaþamýyor. ABD ve Ãsrail´in Ãran´a vuracaðýný ýsrarla iddia ediyorum ancak Ãran´Ã½ yýkamayacaklar. Ãran gelecekte bu coðrafya da en güçlü devlet olacak."
Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönemin Erbakan hükümeti dönemi olduðunu anlatan Göksel, "Türkiye´nin en iyi yönetildiði dönem Refah-Yol dönemidir. Geçen yýlki araþtýrmamda Erbakan´a özür borcum olarak büyük harflarle belirttim. Erbakan iç borçlanmayý kýrmaya çalýþtý. AKP müthiþ bir iç borç bataðýnda. 2003´ün Ocak ayýnda toplam 85 milyar dolar iç ve dýþ borç vardý. Þimdi 300 milyar dolarýn üstünde. Peki ne yaptý AKP hükümeti? 3-5 tane duble yol, bana bir tane fabrika gösterin." (CÃHAN)
IRAN NEXT GOVERNMENT WILL BE MOST POWERFUL in
Iran Turkey better be in a position that uses nanotechnology, nuclear weapons, a country that is reminiscent Göksel, "We like this do not deal with turban. They take the time turban, but science has time to purchase. Iran is a big state. Caution If anybody Iran ´ not a battle. U.S. and Israel will strike Iran, but Iran insists that the allegations would not collapse. Iran in the future this part will be the most powerful state. "
Malaysia´s best managed of the period, the period of the Erbakan government is describing Göksel, "Turkey is the best managed-term welfare is the way the period. Last year´s research to Erbakan excuse me as my debt harflarle I have declared the major. Erbakan to internal borrowing was trying to break. AKP into a great the debt quagmire. In January 2003 total domestic and external debt was 85 billion dollars. Now, on top of 300 billion dollars. So what did the AKP government? 3-5 double one way, show me one factory. " (CIHAN)
I bet the grammar in that one was ok - can we have a competition now to see who can make best sense of it? (for non-native Turkish speakers of course!)
I bet the grammar in that one was ok - can we have a competition now to see who can make best sense of it? (for non-native Turkish speakers of course!)
Nogrammar is not OK for many parts and in one place Malaysia (instead of Turkey I guesss) comes in when there is no Malezya in Turkish text.
Britain´s meteorological office issued a severe weather warning for London and the southeast [AFP]
Five people have died as severe weather continued to affect much of western Europe, with heavy falls causing major flight disruptions in Britain and France and bringing misery to the roads.
In Wales, two climbers were found dead on Mount Snowdon, while in Italy three people lost their lives and 500 people had to be evacuated from their homes.
London lay under 10cm of snow, the most recorded in the British capital in 18 years, with snow showers reaching as far south Spain and Morocco.
Ireland´s meteorological office has issued a severe weather warning that "heavy snowfall" of up to eight centimetres will affect eastern areas later on Monday.
In France, flights were delayed by an average of an hour in Paris´s Orly and Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airports.
One of Orly´s two runways was closed, while the other opened two hours late.
Standing on the deck off the third-story studio at his Berkeley home, Khalil Bendib tries to match his pose to that of the Statue of Liberty. Oversized pen in one hand and a fez on his head, he checks an old newspaper photo of the statue to make sure he is holding his head in the right place and stretching his arm up high enough. Like everything Bendib does, he is in the process of creating a spoof by re-imagining a well-known scene and making it his own.
That’s why Bendib is a cartoonist, the profession for which he is best-known. That is often complemented by the native Algerian’s lesser-known and more serious side—that of a fine artist.
Since coming to the United States in 1977, Bendib has pursued various forms of artwork that include painting, sculpture and ceramics. Like his cartoons, his artwork is political. Yet it is also intensely personal, with most of his paintings and non-commissioned sculptures and ceramic works focusing on his Middle Eastern culture.
Bendib also has several large commissioned works, including three separate sculptures that hang on the north side of the Gaia building. All three represent the Greek goddess Gaia, in various incarnations, and are meant to represent the power of women.
Instead of a play on a theme like his cartoons, Bendib uses his art to convey a much more direct message. It’s about “portraying my roots and my culture in a way that is attractive,” he explains. “It’s an attempt to balance all the negative images that are attached to my culture.”
One of the artist’s paintings, Cafe de Almohades, shows two groups of men sitting at a cafe drinking coffee and talking. The scene is set in Morocco, and Bendib says it is meant to represent the serenity of the culture. Unlike here in the United States, where “time is money,” Bendib shows the men enjoying their time with each other, focused on their conversation and nothing else.
“What I liked so much was their freedom from the constraint on time,” he says. “When I went back to Morocco it occurred to me that [in the United States] we don’t have this wonderful calm. They are daydreaming, what we would call in the west, ‘wasting time.’”
Bendib’s most popular pieces are his ceramics, which he says create a nice medium between drawing and sculpting. Coffee is the preferred theme.
Whereas his ceramics evince a gentle nature, his cartoons are more what he calls “blunt instruments,” coming through like a wrecking ball, shattering assumptions.
It Became Necessary to Destroy The Planet in Order to Save the It, a collection of Bendib’s political cartoons, contains a three-panel cartoon that juxtaposes two young boys with Jerusalem in the background. The boy on the left greets the other boy and says, “Hi, I’m Haile, a Jew from Ethiopia.” In the next frame the boy on the right answers, “And I’m Ali, a Palestinian from here,” which prompts the Ethiopian boy to ask, “What are you doing here in my country?”
“It’s not completely accurate and it’s not meant to be,” Bendib says about a cartoon. But, “such an exaggerated thing can be devastating. That’s what makes my cartoons either so attractive or repulsive.”
Aside from the obvious political element within his artwork, Bendib feels the conception of the art itself is a political statement. He says he produces art the way he wants to and refuses to conform to the standards that have been set out there for “good art.”
“Even as a artist, I find myself ‘reinventing the wheel’ so to speak, to escape those little boxes that exist even in the art world—the various art fads. I’ve never pledged allegiance to any particular school or art movement, finding myself in that way also, again, somewhat of an oddball, even among artists.”
Bendib continues to produce work that pushes the comfort level, even among leftists. His post-9/11 cartoons have tackled some of the harder issues that continue to be edged out everywhere else.
Several of the cartoons in the 9/11 section of his book focus on the racism both the Arab and Muslim communities faced. One strip has three frames, the first, labeled “Pearl Harbor 1941,” shows a flag-waving American demanding to “Kill all the Japs.” The next frame, labeled “NYC, D.C. 2001,” shows the same American demanding to “Kill all the Muslims.” The third and final frame is labeled “Oklahoma City, 1995,” and in it the American initially demands to “Kill all the white guys,” then, thinking better, adds, “No, wait a minute...Punish the Guilty, Don’t Generalize.”
As an Arab and a Muslim, Bendib confesses he was scared initially that his cartoons would anger someone enough that they would come knocking on his door.
“I am scared,” he says. “But I am compelled to do these cartoons. Post-9/11, Arab and Muslim Americans have become the proverbial canary in the cage in the mine shaft of our constitutional liberties. As their rights are being taken away, so will, eventually, the rights of all citizens be eroded and gradually ‘disappeared,’ if we keep sliding on this downward slope. My job is to debunk [the stereotype], and that makes me unpopular with those in the mainstream whose job it is to spread this message. The common denominator between all my cartoons is rebellion against blind conformity.”
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2- I cant stop looking at my AWEsome purple nails, look so hot with my black and purple swatch watch
yeah... lookin at them now, while typing, lool, enough doudi!!!!
oh yeah, Question for ppl livin in da UK
is it true in highschool u only need to take 8 OL´s in 3 years????
CAuse then DAMN!! U guyz r REAL lucky!
We have to take (to get into college) 8 OL´s and 2 AL´s, or i think its 8 Ol and 1 AL and another AS
In other words, i think u have 2 take 8 OL´s , 2 As´s and 1 A2 looooooooooool
U know thres this one girl from egypt, she got 3rd on the world, she took 8 Ols and 8 Als!!!!!!
she got 156 %!! Ofcourse now, she in the UK (they took her ona full scholarship!)
Coz i heard tht ppl who finish IGCSE from here wehn they go to the UK they like go to 2nd or 3rd year in uni cause there they take AL´s in uni?
TRUE or FALse???
Yeah, anothr question, EDEXCEL is a college? Like Cambridge?
Coz u know we choose our subjects either CAmbridge or edexcel
ANYWAY!!!
umm... i 4got
oh yeah!
I just got my intrnational student card!!!! AWESOME!
Its like a credit card, b4 we go into the exam, we swipe it through this thing so they know we were there
my center number is :- Eg901 and my candidate no:- 0868 see i memorized them
happy
(but my mom gave them an awfuuuuuuuuuuul pic!!My passport pic. YUCK!, u know the one wher u cant smile!!!!)
Doudi, what a jumble!!
I know someone else has written about this, but Edexcel and Cambridge set the exam papers. Cambridge is generally recognised as better. EDexel are quite new to the game and offer what we know as NVQ´s as well. These are vocational qualifications, not exams but work based.
You take GCSE´s age 16 (any number up to about 12 is you are brainy) and there is not real pass level. But C or above is recognised to be pass for us old fashioned ones!
You take AS level age 17 (3 or 4, even 5 if you are clever) again C or above is recognised as pass. These have only been around for a few years, 3 or 4 I think.
You take A levels age 18 (3 or 4) and often follow on from AS level. You need A levels to get to uni and to get to a good one you need at least 22 points from those A levels.
ANKARA - An Education Ministry circular states that universities should make proper introductions to prospective students, enabling them to choose the most fitting tertiary education according to their desires, interests and skills. The ministry says alcohol should not be used as a tool.
A ministry telling students what (not) to drink? Hmmm, sounds Saudi-Arabian to me....
It is still better than Brigham young university (BYU) in the US where you have to sign a code of honor: no alcohol, no tea, no tobacco, no coffee, no beard, live a chaste and virtuous life.
For men:
Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, revealing, or form fitting. Shorts must be knee length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles or colors, and trimmed above the collar leaving the ear uncovered. Sideburns should not extend below the earlobe or onto the cheek. If worn, moustaches should be neatly trimmed and may not extend beyond or below the corners of the mouth. Men are expected to be clean shaven; beards are not acceptable. Earrings and other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.
for women:
Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, strapless, backless, or revealing; has slits above the knee; or is form fitting. Dresses, skirts, and shorts must be knee length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extremes in styles and colors. Excessive ear piercing (more than one per ear) and all other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.
It is still better than Brigham young university (BYU) in the US where you have to sign a code of honor: no alcohol, no tea, no tobacco, no coffee, no beard, live a chaste and virtuous life.
There is a big difference cedears! Brigham Young University is a private school founded by and run by the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons). Students who enroll know what is being asked of them before they start and enroll there based on their own moral compass. It is not the government dictating what students should do.
There is a big difference cedears! Brigham Young University is a private school founded by and run by the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons). Students who enroll know what is being asked of them before they start and enroll there based on their own moral compass. It is not the government dictating what students should do.
Most students enrolling in college are under age for drinking alcohol....although there have been scandalous stories about recruiters using very shady methods to recruit students, in particular, athlets, to colleges.
Which is to say, I don´t see any problem with the letter. They are underage.
I know someone else has written about this, but Edexcel and Cambridge set the exam papers. Cambridge is generally recognised as better. EDexel are quite new to the game and offer what we know as NVQ´s as well. These are vocational qualifications, not exams but work based.
You take GCSE´s age 16 (any number up to about 12 is you are brainy) and there is not real pass level. But C or above is recognised to be pass for us old fashioned ones!
You take AS level age 17 (3 or 4, even 5 if you are clever) again C or above is recognised as pass. These have only been around for a few years, 3 or 4 I think.
You take A levels age 18 (3 or 4) and often follow on from AS level. You need A levels to get to uni and to get to a good one you need at least 22 points from those A levels.
Thx so much Libralady
Whoa , you guys got it easy over there!! U know here , if u choose to take GCSE´s its really hard, and your goal has to be like *´s in evrything cause they only take 10% into egyptian colleges, thats why most of us go to private colleges, especially this year where thye put a max on the no of AL´s u can take, (2 only) mostly people take a lot more than that, the maximum u can get is 116 % (BTw its real easy to get over 100 %)
Yeah and i know that edexcel is waay easier, but truth is its better in math, better than cambridge, Especially 4 ppl considering takeing MAth Al , cause it really lays out the base for it, while cambridge just makes everything real complicated.
You know in Egypt its real hard to get high grades , cause kids here are REAAAAAAAAAL smart and RAElly care about studying, Egypt has the second highest IGCSE curve in the world after India!!!!!!!!
Here, really i swear , we have the ebst teachers in all of the middle east! WE got a couple of foreign students attending the revisions with us(our teachers, outside of school, cause teachers take us revisions outside of school), from China and other weird asian countries, but we got LOADS of students from the gulf. Its pretty cool though
ANYWAY! Thx for explaining and thanks 4 ur time
Just wanted to get it all cleared , and like know how the makers of the system apply it themselves!!!!!
"I was abducted by aliens..." When asked to share the most unusual excuses workers gave for missing work, recruiting managers shared some of their favourite examples:
"I´m too drunk to drive to work."
"I accidentally flushed my keys down the toilet."
"I had to help deliver a baby on my way to work." (Employee was not in the medical profession.)
"I accidentally drove through the automatic garage door before it opened."
"My boyfriend´s snake escaped from its cage and I´m afraid to leave the bedroom until he gets home."
"I´m too fat to get into my work outfit."
"God didn´t wake me." (Employee didn´t believe in alarm clocks and thought a higher power would wake her when she was ready.)
"I cut my fingernails too short, they´re bleeding and I have to go to the doctor."
"The ghosts in my house kept me up all night."
"I forgot I was getting married today."
"My cow bit me."
"My son accidentally fell asleep next to wet cement in our garden. His foot fell in and we can´t get it out."
"I was walking down the street watching road works being done, fell in the hole and hurt myself."
"I was walking my dog and slipped on a toad in my driveway and hurt my back."
"My house lock jammed, and I´m locked in."
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Really??? Whats the difference between an OL and a GCSE? I thougth they were the same :S
OMg 3 AL´s??????? OMG!!!!! AND an AS? In 3 years?? and 10? we only ahve to take 8
O´ Levels ended years ago. They were just exams at the end of your 5th year in secondary school (age around 15/16). You would generally take about 10 or so, depending on clever you were. You did not have to take any actually, and could leave school before.
GCSE´s took over and some of the end result is based on your course work through out the two years you study for them.
Baþbakan Tayyip Erdoðan, kendisini eleþtiren bir kapaðý nedeniyle dava açtýðý Leman Dergisi´nden 6 bin TL tazminat kazandý. Parayý Baþbakan´Ã½n hesabýna yatýrdýðýný duyuran dergi, Çetin Altan´a ödül verirken yaptýðý konuþmayý da hatýrlatarak ilginç bir teklifte bulundu. Ãþte Leman´Ã½n Erdoðan´a tazminat cevabý: .................................................................................
Sayýn Baþbakan
Bizim kapaðýmýza açtýðýnýz davadaki mahkumiyet kararýmýzý Yargýtay da onayladý. Cezamýz olan 6 bin lirayý size yatýrdýk. Kaldý ki siz 25 bin lira istemiþtiniz. Bize ve karikatürcü arkadaþlara açtýðýnýz davalar hoþgörü ve tahammül sýnýrlarýnýz hakkýnda büyük bir þüphe, tartýþma yarattý. Bu tavrýnýz Amerika Ãnsan Haklarý raporuna bile girdi. Dünya medyalarýnda þaþkýnlýkla karþýlandý. Bu konuda kendinizi sorgulayýnýz. Biz LeMan olarak Çetin Altan gibi þimdiye kadar 300’den fazla davadan yargýlandýk. Size ödediðimiz gibi hesabýný tutamayacaðýmýz para cezalarý ödedik. Hapislerde yattýk. Kaçak durumlarýna düþtük. Biz bu yolun yolcusuyuz. Ancak sizin artýk bu izlediðiniz yolun yolcusu olmamanýz sizin için ama daha önemlisi ülkemiz için daha hayýrlý olacaktýr. Çünkü sizden önceki sað iktidar sahipleri gibi ülkesinin yazar çizerlerini davalarla boðuþmaya, onlarý sindirmeye çalýþmak ülkemizin adýný lekelemekte, yazar çizerlerin ise onurunu parlatmaktadýr.
Son olarak; Davos’taki tavrýnýzýn devamý olarak bizden kazandýðýnýz parayý Filistinli çocuklara baðýþlamanýzý öneriyoruz. Bu bizim içimizi ferahlatacaktýr.
What a match i watched; Fenerbahçe beaten Lotos Pko Bp Gdynia in OT
FENERBAHCE WIN CLASSIC AGAINST LOTOS PKO BP
Fenerbahce edged Lotos PKO BP Gdynia in overtime on Wednesday to advance to the Quarter-Finals of the EuroLeague Women play-offs.
Esmeral Tuncluer´s three-pointer for Fener with 15 seconds remaining knotted the Eighth-Finals Game 3 decider at 63-63 and then the home side made six free throws in the final 25 seconds of the extra period to win 79-76.
Even then, the outstanding USA international Tamika Catchings almost sent the game to a second overtime but her attempt from three-point land at the buzzer stayed out.
The finish completed a remarkable tie with all three contests going to the wire.
Catchings, arguably the USA´s most valuable player at last summer´s Olympics when they captured a gold medal, had 26 points, eight rebounds and four steals.
Canada international Tammy Sutton-Brown, a teammate of Catchings with the WNBA´s Indiana Fever, had a game-high 28 points - 18 in the first half - and 11 rebounds for Fener while Turkey international Nevriye Yilmaz was immense yet again for the club with 17 points and 11 boards.
Fenerbahce dominated the boards, out-rebounding the Polish giants 40-26 but Lotos stayed in their game with their excellent three-point shooting. At one stage, they were nine of 20 before finishing nine of 22 (40.9%).
Alana Beard scored 22 points - 12 in the first half - in defeat.
Lotos PKO BP landed some telling blows in the second quarter and opened up their biggest lead at 32-21 after Catchings buried one of her five three-balls to take her points haul to 14.
Sutton-Brown reeled off the next six points of the game to stop the bleeding for Fenerbahce and the home side ended up going to half-time trailing 39-34.
Early in the second half, Fenerbahce tied the game at 44-44 after baskets from Nalan Ramazanoglu, Nevin Nevlin and Yilmaz.
The contest then remained tight until the end of regulation and all the way through overtime.
Yilmaz scored two straight baskets - a lay-up and a jumper midway through the overtime - for a 69-65 lead and Fener stayed in front the rest of the way although they had to make their free throws to stay in front.
p.s: One bad news; CSKA lost to Halcon Avenida after 2 overtimes and this means Fenerbahce will play UMMC Ekaterinburg on Quarter Finals where now Fenerbahce´s ex-player Cappie Pondexter plays means Fenerbahce has no chance for Final Four
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What´s the difference between sperm samples and discarded toenails?
Six cancer patients whose sperm samples were lost by the NHS have won their claim for damages in a landmark judgement which establishes the legal principle that a man´s semen is his own property.
The case, which could cost the NHS hundreds of thousands of pounds in compensation, is expected to lead to a review of the law relating to ownership of human body parts.
In yesterday´s judgment the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Judge, the most senior judge in England and Wales, rejected the notion that sperm held by North Bristol NHS Trust had the same legal status as a discarded toenail or hair cut at a barber´s shop.
I find it ludicrous that the Trust actually thought that they had a good argument comparing sperm to a disgarded toenail..... especially in the circumstances which caused them storing it in the first place
Not new news but it caught my eyes today while trying to read more about Asma abdulhamid another party candidate whome i have watched an interview with her last night
She is veiled and danish palestinian but she also got lots of voices 3822
Two Turkish women elected to Danish parliament
Two Turkish-born Muslims have become the first women of immigrant origin to win seats in the Danish parliament, the interior ministry said Thursday.
"Girl with a Pearl Earring" is today´s featured picture on Wikipedia. It is a painting of Johannes Vermeer and it´s called the Dutch Mona Lisa. The painting is currently housed in a museum in The Hague.
(CBS) Doctors say the octuplets born Monday outside Los Angeles are doing well.
But when they go home, it will be to a truly full house.
CBS News has learned the mother who gave birth to the octuplets has six other children.
An acquaintance who didn´t want to be identified told Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman the mom has four older boys and two girls.
"She is young," the acquaintance says, "fairly young. She has six children already. And in those six children, she has a set of twins."
While the hospital where the octuplets were born, Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in Bellflower, Calif., some 17 miles southeast of L.A., hasn´t confirmed that the mom used fertility drugs, there are no documented cases of naturally conceived octuplets, Kauffman points out.
"Girl with a Pearl Earring" is today´s featured picture on Wikipedia. It is a painting of Johannes Vermeer and it´s called the Dutch Mona Lisa. The painting is currently housed in a museum in The Hague.
Have you seen the movie? Colin Firth, as always, very hot
KABUL – No one knows who brought the book to the mosque, or at least no one dares say.
The pocket-size translation of the Quran has already landed six men in prison in Afghanistan and left two of them begging judges to spare their lives. They´re accused of modifying the Quran and their fate could be decided Sunday in court.
.. It was a translation of the Quran into one of Afghanistan´s languages, with a note giving permission to reprint the text as long as it was distributed for free.
Some of the men of the mosque said the book would be useful to Afghans who didn´t know Arabic, so they took up a collection for printing.
...
Many clerics rejected the book because it did not include the original Arabic verses alongside the translation. It´s a particularly sensitive detail for Muslims, who regard the Arabic Quran as words given directly by God. A translation is not considered a Quran itself, and a mistranslation could warp God´s word.
...
"In all the mosques in Afghanistan, all the mullahs said, ´Zalmai is an infidel. He should be killed,´" Zalmai recounted as he sat outside the chief judge´s chambers waiting for a recent hearing.
...
There is no law in Afghanistan prohibiting the translation of the Quran. But Zalmai is accused of violating Islamic Shariah law by modifying the Quran.
And Afghanistan´s court system appears to be stacked against those accused of religious crimes. Judges don´t want to seem soft on potential heretics and lawyers don´t want to be seen defending them ...
The prosecutor wants the death penalty for Zalmai and the cleric, who have now spent more than a year in prison.
Sentences on religious infractions can be harsh. In January 2008, a court sentenced a journalism student to death for blasphemy for asking questions about women´s rights under Islam. An appeals court reduced the sentence to 20 years in prison. His lawyers appealed again and the case is pending.
In 2006, an Afghan man was sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. He was later ruled insane and was given asylum in Italy. Islamic leaders and the parliament accused President Hamid Karzai of being a puppet for the West for letting him live.
KABUL – No one knows who brought the book to the mosque, or at least no one dares say.
The pocket-size translation of the Quran has already landed six men in prison in Afghanistan and left two of them begging judges to spare their lives. They´re accused of modifying the Quran and their fate could be decided Sunday in court.
.. It was a translation of the Quran into one of Afghanistan´s languages, with a note giving permission to reprint the text as long as it was distributed for free.
Some of the men of the mosque said the book would be useful to Afghans who didn´t know Arabic, so they took up a collection for printing.
...
Many clerics rejected the book because it did not include the original Arabic verses alongside the translation. It´s a particularly sensitive detail for Muslims, who regard the Arabic Quran as words given directly by God. A translation is not considered a Quran itself, and a mistranslation could warp God´s word.
...
"In all the mosques in Afghanistan, all the mullahs said, ´Zalmai is an infidel. He should be killed,´" Zalmai recounted as he sat outside the chief judge´s chambers waiting for a recent hearing.
...
There is no law in Afghanistan prohibiting the translation of the Quran. But Zalmai is accused of violating Islamic Shariah law by modifying the Quran.
And Afghanistan´s court system appears to be stacked against those accused of religious crimes. Judges don´t want to seem soft on potential heretics and lawyers don´t want to be seen defending them ...
The prosecutor wants the death penalty for Zalmai and the cleric, who have now spent more than a year in prison.
Sentences on religious infractions can be harsh. In January 2008, a court sentenced a journalism student to death for blasphemy for asking questions about women´s rights under Islam. An appeals court reduced the sentence to 20 years in prison. His lawyers appealed again and the case is pending.
In 2006, an Afghan man was sentenced to death for converting to Christianity. He was later ruled insane and was given asylum in Italy. Islamic leaders and the parliament accused President Hamid Karzai of being a puppet for the West for letting him live.
(CBS) Doctors say the octuplets born Monday outside Los Angeles are doing well.
But when they go home, it will be to a truly full house.
CBS News has learned the mother who gave birth to the octuplets has six other children.
An acquaintance who didn´t want to be identified told Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman the mom has four older boys and two girls.
"She is young," the acquaintance says, "fairly young. She has six children already. And in those six children, she has a set of twins."
While the hospital where the octuplets were born, Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in Bellflower, Calif., some 17 miles southeast of L.A., hasn´t confirmed that the mom used fertility drugs, there are no documented cases of naturally conceived octuplets, Kauffman points out.
She has decided it is time to make some money and has done her first interview for American TV (forget the station) and papers, I guess so she can support her 14 children as a single mother,................. yes she is a single mother.
When you hear this and realise how much it must have cost to deliver those 8 children and how much it will cost to bring them up, I feel nothing but disgust for her and her complete selfishness and irresponsibility!
Myth: we have to save the earth. Frankly, the earth doesn´t need to be saved. Nature doesn´t give a hoot if human beings are here or not. The planet has survived cataclysmic and catastrophic changes for millions upon millions of years. Over that time, it is widely believed, 99 percent of all species have come and gone while the planet has remained. Saving the environment is really about saving our environment - making it safe for ourselves, our children, and the world as we know it. If more people saw the issue as one of saving themselves, we would probably see increased motivation and commitment to actually do so.
-Robert M. Lilienfeld, management consultant and author (b. 1953) and William L. Rathje, archaeologist and author (b. 1945)
Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan. Peace loving Talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is
"We have beheaded the Polish engineer after the government failed to meet our demands and we will not hand over his body," a Taliban spokesman said by telephone.
that was a response to dd`s idiotic post. if we have to call smn idiot, that should be you and dd.
You´re losing distance tami, idiots are the talibans who thought that capturing a Polish engineer will influence Pakistani government to let out 60 goat-shagging bearded men with a passion for making everyone do their way
cool, it seems like my last post is deleted although peacetrain`s post in which she called me idiot is still there. so I`m telling it again; it was all about your nazist anti islam propaganda.
No need to exchange insults, and firing at each other for something we agree about !
DD, you know that was nothing to deal with Ãslam ´you said it many times before that people do things in the name of Ãslam and call it Ãslam ´ so that comment wasnt needed at all.
Tami, of course a life of a person no matter who or what he is, is valuable specially he did nothing and not a part in a fair fight or whatever.
And if those people knew how to be what they claim to be ´Muslims´ they wouldnt have done it...its forbidden in Ãslam to kill innocent people for nothing !
So can we have peace here please specially there is nothing to disagree about?!
Just dropped by for a few..so good night guys
Edited (2/9/2009) by CANLI
[saying goodnight i´ve already missed the movie i was watching ]
The journalist who threw his shoes at former U.S. President George W. Bush will face trial on 19 February for assaulting a visiting head of state, with a maximum 15-year prison term, a court official said yesterday.
The journalist who threw his shoes at former U.S. President George W. Bush will face trial on 19 February for assaulting a visiting head of state, with a maximum 15-year prison term, a court official said yesterday.
cool, it seems like my last post is deleted although peacetrain`s post in which she called me idiot is still there. so I`m telling it again; it was all about your nazist anti islam propaganda.
Seems my post is deleted too, but I´m not crying.
btw I am not anti islam and don´t agree with the tone of DD´s posts either. I think Canli´s comments are right.
Polish engineer beheaded in Pakistan. Peace loving Talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is
"We have beheaded the Polish engineer after the government failed to meet our demands and we will not hand over his body," a Taliban spokesman said by telephone.
It was political and it has much to do with oil and money!!
It`s apparent that you know nothing about what`s going on in America and Iraq. The Iraq war was a psychologic war which had nothing to do with oil. if it had been for oil, the oil prices would be lower now, but it`s not! Do you know that there are millions of voters in America who would be happy like crazy if america nuked the middle east and killed all the muslims there? Who do you think chose Bush twice to presidency? It`s all about demand and supply. there was a demand for "revenge" and Bush just tried to supply that with the Iraq war and it made him stay at presidency for one more term.
It`s apparent that you know nothing about what`s going on in America and Iraq. The Iraq war was a psychologic war which had nothing to do with oil. if it had been for oil, the oil prices would be lower now, but it`s not! Do you know that there are millions of voters in America who would be happy like crazy if america nuked the middle east and killed all the muslims there? Who do you think chose Bush twice to presidency? It`s all about demand and supply. there was a demand for "revenge" and Bush just tried to supply that with the Iraq war and it made him stay at presidency for one more term.
Really?
Look... The right wing think-tank had already decided to attack Iraq even before Bush came into presidency..
It WAS the administration made the decision and spent huge amount effort to persuade the public ´9/11 got something to do with Iraq´. Public was led to believe in that..But of course, in reality 9/11 or al qaide had NOTHING to do with Iraq.
Look... The right wing think-tank had already decided to attack Iraq even before Bush came into presidency..
It WAS the administration made the decision and spent huge amount effort to persuade the public ´9/11 got something to do with Iraq´. Public was led to believe in that..But of course, in reality 9/11 or al qaide had NOTHING to do with Iraq.
You should read abit more about it..
so how does this refute what I said? you`re just supporting my argument by saying that "public was led to believe in that". that`s exactly what I said. You should try to understand what you read first.
what makes people think their version of christianity is more true than of Bush?
wasn`t it Bush who declared crusade and genocided 1 million of Muslims?
Tami tami tami, as usual you´re unable to see things from a perspective. Bush´s crusade that you quote so eagerly was a metaphor (a hyperbole). If it was a real crusade then the US and EU armies would hold a flag with the sign of cross, would allow only Christians among them and would destroy mosques to build churches there. Nothing like that happened, the Iraqi community didn´t have a choice - either you convert or you die. So what do you mean by crusade?
My comment was meant to be sarcastic - of course I know not all Muslims are like those freaks. Reading words from Canli or Alameda here, it´s hard for me to believe that they share their religion as they don´t seem a bit like Talibans (however reading tami´s yesterda´s comment I started to wonder if it´s not piloting planes that he studies in the US). The point of my comment was to draw attention to how a bunch of mental goat-shaggers can give bad press to Islam.
Personally I consider all religious bases of the big three (Islam, Christianity, Judaism) alike, there´s violence in hteir HOly Books, and they´re all interpreted as one pleases. The difference however (in my opinion) is that whilst Christianity stopped its violent aera and nowadays you´re likely to see the raidicals protest with parades and transparents, Islamic radicals still kidnap, murder and are proud of this. Again, I´m not saying that Christianity is great - I´m not a believer, but it´s definitely less cruel in its radical form nowadays than Islam. Islamic radicals are like Christians in the Middle Ages
I watched a programme last night on BBC called Explore. Last nights episode was all in Turkey, and was extrememly interesting and informative. Take a look at the article above that accompanies one section of the documentary about how Turkish muslims are living today. That is from the devote Muslim girl buying a wig to cover her scarf so that she can go to uni, or the boar hunting / pork eating muslims in the mountains.
First, i decided not to respond to these posts, but i cant stand hypocracy really...
Quoting thehandsom
This is a fair comment...
What a fair comment!!That post was racist for sure, trying to show all muslims as taliban terrorists. I dont know why its still there and what its aim rather than provoking.
Quoting thehandsom
Of course it has everything got to do with islam!!
What makes people think it has not?
what makes people think their version of islam is more true than taliban´s?
Taliban thinks they are at war and this is ´jihad´ for them and they are following the rules of Islam in purest form..
If talibans are following the rules of Islam, the what others doing? Did Islam begin to differ after 2001? Then all states whose citizens follow Islam throughout the history, were all terrorist sates. What an expression "taliban thinks they are at war and this is jihad..." like "US thinks they are at war with Islamic states and this is crusade for them and they are following the rules of judeo-christianity in purest form." The thing you and DD cannot perceive, all of this are mainly political.
Quoting thehandsom
It was political and it has much to do with oil and money!!
, if theirs were political just about money, then what taliban doing is also political because they dont want foreign soldiers in Afghanistan and they want the country to be ruled with their perverted mentality, simply they want power & government which is political too, just they use religion to collect fans like west using anti-Islam propogand to collect fans.
Quoting Daydreamer
as usual you´re unable to see things from a perspective.
Your perspective is excellent, labelling everyone who follows Islam as taliban terrorists. What a perspective of hatres this is!!
Quoting Daydreamer
If it was a real crusade then the US and EU armies would hold a flag with the sign of cross, would allow only Christians among them and would destroy mosques to build churches there.
So what? I can say the same thing by the side of muslims. If all muslims like taliban, for sure they have now 2 billion of fans and millions of soldiers but not. And as i said before if you blame Islam the whole religion, so dont surprised that when somebody blamed the whole west politics who are mainly christian states.
Quoting Daydreamer
My comment was meant to be sarcastic
Your comment was racist and provoking simply...
Quoting Daydreamer
The point of my comment was to draw attention to how a bunch of mental goat-shaggers can give bad press to Islam.
Oh yeah, bad twisting for sure, you first put all muslims in the same bag with taliban then you restricted this to only a bunch of mental goat-shaggers. And you expect us to swallow this hypocracy, so then im right, your post proved racist and provoking rather than sarcastic.
Quoting Daydreamer
The difference however (in my opinion) is that whilst Christianity stopped its violent aera and nowadays you´re likely to see the raidicals protest with parades and transparents, Islamic radicals still kidnap, murder and are proud of this.
Ohh really? We saw the invaders in Iraq who killed millions of people, they were very good at bombing mosques, raping women, torturing people and it seems they were very proud of this. So you can say they are not christians ok then im saying Taliban has nothing to do with Islam. Hmmm maybe those invaders then irreligious like you as you dont want them to be related with christianity, they killed lots of muslims, then you can be proud of them. They cleared those religous muslim insects, didnt they? You should be happy.
Quoting Daydreamer
Again, I´m not saying that Christianity is great - I´m not a believer, but it´s definitely less cruel in its radical form nowadays than Islam. Islamic radicals are like Christians in the Middle Ages
What a generosity!! Then there were no radicals using Islam in middle ages or before 2001. Hmmm i wonder where were those radicals? Maybe they fell into world after 2001.
On a Dutch forum (sorry, no English link) I read this: People reject 50 TL bank notes with the picture of Fatma Aliye Haným (the only woman on bank notes) because ´she´s a woman!´
How ´modern´ is Turkey when things like that still happen? (A group on Facebook called ´I don´t want this woman on my money´ already has 160.000 members - so it´s not just a few who think like this!)
On a Dutch forum (sorry, no English link) I read this: People reject 50 TL bank notes with the picture of Fatma Aliye Haným (the only woman on bank notes) because ´she´s a woman!´
How ´modern´ is Turkey when things like that still happen? (A group on Facebook called ´I don´t want this woman on my money´ already has 160.000 members - so it´s not just a few who think like this!)
people dont want that money not bacuse Fatma Aliye was a woman but because she was hostile to Ataturk.
you again proved how low your countrymen can get. You could have at least checked out that facebook group before posting to see what their point is.
How modern is your beloved country with all these nazi scums?
What you missed out is the fact that I did not put all Muslims in one bag, au contraire - I commented on how radicals make the world perceive Islam. If you find that comment racist, fine by me, I´m not ashamed to call anybody who murders people hostile. If you consider Talibans peaceful farmers then perhaps you should read more about them.
It´s not close to truth to say that the US is a Christian country on religious crusade in Iraq, don´t omit to see the difference - all Talibs are Muslim, not all Americans are Christian. The US does not have an alias "The Christian States of America" while Taliban regime was also known as "Islamic Emirate of Aghanistan" (quoting after Wikipedia). Also do I have to elaborate on how Muslims are free to practise their religion anywhere in what you call Christian countries but Talibans were not fans of religious freedom? Still seeing Talibans as having nothing to do with religion in contrast to the US? Then how about the US law standing in opposition to Christian rules? Abortion etc?
True about Talibans wanting power - but it is power to introduce religious dictatorship. The US, however unlawfully and revolting actions they took invading Iraq, do not want to introduce poor pagans to Christianity by means of decapitation. It is about power and dominance from both sides for sure, but whilst Talibans are about religion, the US is not.
As for me seeing all Muslims the same as Talibans - that´s not true and I wrote it quite clearly, sorry if you werent able to interpret my words although they were quite straightforward. I´m not going to prove that I´m not a camel to you.
Again, I´m not proud of what the US and UN did in Iraq or Afghanistan, or in Bosnia for that matter. You still haven;´t answered my question - how come the western army that you want to believe is Christian is composed of people of many religions? That must shatter your idea of the "bed Christian west"
I have no idea where Islamic radicals were - I just commented that if we compare religious radicals these days, Islamic ones are way more violent.
I saw your post before I went to bed PT..It was your politeness to use the word stupid only.
And it was a quite ´light´ adjective, considering rawness and vulgarity of the post you were replying to.
Well I think the word I used was "idiot". It is easy for me to check this because, although my post was deleted (I don´t care) Tam kindly quoted me, so it is there for all to see. Thanks Tam .
Actually, I find "stupid" and "idiot" very strong words . They´re not words I particularly like, so for me they aren´t so "light". Well it upset Tam anyway.
Well I think the word I used was "idiot". It is easy for me to check this because, although my post was deleted (I don´t care) Tam kindly quoted me, so it is there for all to see. Thanks Tam .
Actually, I find "stupid" and "idiot" very strong words . They´re not words I particularly like, so for me they aren´t so "light". Well it upset Tam anyway.
I agree with you..I would not want to use those straight away either.
But sometimes, there is no other way to respond really..!
What a fair comment!!That post was racist for sure, trying to show all muslims as taliban terrorists. I dont know why its still there and what its aim rather than provoking.
I said fair comment because, she was pointing at the harsh parts of Islam and she was right. I think her comment should stay as it is
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If talibans are following the rules of Islam, the what others doing? Did Islam begin to differ after 2001? Then all states whose citizens follow Islam throughout the history, were all terrorist sates. What an expression "taliban thinks they are at war and this is jihad..." like "US thinks they are at war with Islamic states and this is crusade for them and they are following the rules of judeo-christianity in purest form." The thing you and DD cannot perceive, all of this are mainly political.
What others doing? of course they are not following the orders of Qur
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Basically, islamic doctrine in Turkey is a not as the same as the doctrine in which Taliban believes (thanks god)...
You can not accuse Taliban as non-muslims because they are following the rules of Quran. But they can accuse you for not being muslim enough (which I know they do! )..
How?
are you living with sheria? NO...
Are you fighting for sheria? NO.
Do you wish to live with sheria? NO (you may say yes but then you will be betraying to Turkey)
Sheria is the ultime doctrine Quran says you should live with!! You have no choice!! You got to follow..
You can NOT question it..can you?
But you prefer not to follow..do you NOT?
So.. stop trying to put barrier between Islam and what Taliban is doing!
(did We NOT talk about this before btw?)..
And why is Islam in Turkey is different?
Well it is another story..
We have a country that has been between the west and the east.. We have influenced the west and the west has influenced us for many centuries.. We have lived with so many different kaffirs for many many years..
The tolerance become part of Anatolian people´s character ...
Although many wont like to hear that but "our version" of Islam is much more peaceful and more different than most of the middle east and eastern countries..
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, if theirs were political just about money, then what taliban doing is also political because they dont want foreign soldiers in Afghanistan and they want the country to be ruled with their perverted mentality, simply they want power & government which is political too, just they use religion to collect fans like west using anti-Islam propogand to collect fans.
For Taliban, I dont think it matters to be fighting for Afghanistan or not..
They are fighting for religion..That is the part of reason how you could find many taliban members in Iraq, in Checenya, Bosnia etc..
What you missed out is the fact that I did not put all Muslims in one bag, au contraire - I commented on how radicals make the world perceive Islam. If you find that comment racist, fine by me, I´m not ashamed to call anybody who murders people hostile. If you consider Talibans peaceful farmers then perhaps you should read more about them.
Im not missing anything. I just showed your hypocracy. Thats not about how they make the world perceive Islam, thats about how western media want to perceive Islam and my post is about how you perceive Islam. And of course taliban is helping them as well as US helping talibans. Islam is nobody’s monopoly. Nobody here approves what taliban has been doing by a difference that people like you try to show them as they are the real representatives of Islam and provoking people. Thats what make people to hate eachother. And you are one of the clear example of this provocateurs.
Quoting Daydreamer
It´s not close to truth to say that the US is a Christian country on religious crusade in Iraq, don´t omit to see the difference - all Talibs are Muslim, not all Americans are Christian. The US does not have an alias "The Christian States of America" while Taliban regime was also known as "Islamic Emirate of Aghanistan" (quoting after Wikipedia). Also do I have to elaborate on how Muslims are free to practise their religion anywhere in what you call Christian countries but Talibans were not fans of religious freedom? Still seeing Talibans as having nothing to do with religion in contrast to the US? Then how about the US law standing in opposition to Christian rules? Abortion etc?
You yourself call them as christian countries and still asking me why do i call them christians? Let me explain because citizens of those countries are mainly christians, its not important if they follow christianity or not and who said Talibans are real muslims except themselves and western media? By the way what this has to do with the freedom of religion? We are talking about terrorists(both US and taliban). Turkey is also secular country, and population mostly muslims. Now think about if Turkey to invade and kill christians in a country whose population is mostly christian, then what will people say? For sure theyll say muslim Turks killing christians. In addition taliban is not on all power in Afghanistan, they are also killing Afghan soldiers who call themselves muslims as well. So where do we put this?
Quoting Daydreamer
True about Talibans wanting power - but it is power to introduce religious dictatorship. The US, however unlawfully and revolting actions they took invading Iraq, do not want to introduce poor pagans to Christianity by means of decapitation. It is about power and dominance from both sides for sure, but whilst Talibans are about religion, the US is not.
So its political of course. Its not important if they use religion or not, both killing human-beings. By the way there is big difference between them, one of them invades countries, other is killing its own people to apply their perverted mentality, actually its their country. Recently i havent seen any Islamic state invading a chrisitian country, on the other hand we witness the contrariwise.
Quoting Daydreamer
As for me seeing all Muslims the same as Talibans - that´s not true and I wrote it quite clearly, sorry if you werent able to interpret my words although they were quite straightforward. I´m not going to prove that I´m not a camel to you.
What you write is clear, let me remind “Peace loving talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is”. So what people understand from this provoking comment? Of course the one i understood, after then you twisted changes nothing. This actually shows your sincerety.
Quoting Daydreamer
I have no idea where Islamic radicals were - I just commented that if we compare religious radicals these days, Islamic ones are way more violent.
Actually i think irreligous states like US are far more violent than those radicals and thats the one who made them radicals ...
Where did I call the US a christian country? In the fragment where I typed "what you call a Christian country?" The phrase "what you call" does not imply me saying it is so but rather reinstating your point.
You may consider me a hypocrite, that definitely won´t deprive me of sleep, I just wonder where you have this idea from - I say:
“Peace loving talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is”
meaning that those mental morons show what they stand for - they call themselves Muslims so that´s the message they send. You read it "All the Muslims are mental killers" I didn´t write anything like that, but you´re free to grow your bias as you please. And yes, the fact that they stand against other Muslims who do not believe it´s Allah´s will to kill people around, speaks for itself.
Applying your logic (or the lack of it) the world knows no secular countries. How about defining what a secular country is? The fact that the state does not interfere into religion of an individual, the fact that it by constitution grants equal rights to its citizens is not a quality of secularism? Finally that country´s army is composed of people of different faiths/religions and fighting for what´s best for their country - not in the terms of religion but money, power, influence - is not another quality of secularism?
If we further apply your perversed logic, then your argument about "Muslim" (in your understanding) countries not invading "Christian" countries is proven wrong - look at Christian Serbia losing it´s oldest part to "Muslim" Albania.
I think the only sentence of your rethorics I agree with is that irreligious countries like the US are guilty and are more violent than religious regimes in the east. But still, I don´t consider it Christian invasion but a superpower invasion in order to gain control in the east. Yet, The US and EU are killing Iraqis NOT because they´re Muslims. Talibans on the other hand kill both "infidels" and those whom they do not consider Muslim enough for religious reasons - no, not exclusively, of course there are other factors as well but their religious fanatism is something that makes them not only shepards with guns.
meaning that those mental morons show what they stand for - they call themselves Muslims so that´s the message they send. You read it "All the Muslims are mental killers" I didn´t write anything like that, but you´re free to grow your bias as you please. And yes, the fact that they stand against other Muslims who do not believe it´s Allah´s will to kill people around, speaks for itself.
Do you really know Islam is the religion of 2 billion people not the monopoly of taliban? Its how people understood when you identified taliban with Islam, not only me but also CANLI and other members understood like this, so i guess nothing wrong with me
Quoting Daydreamer
If we further apply your perversed logic, then your argument about "Muslim" (in your understanding) countries not invading "Christian" countries is proven wrong - look at Christian Serbia losing it´s oldest part to "Muslim" Albania.
I dont remember Muslim Albania(btw Albania is not mainly muslim) killing Christian Serbia´s citizens, on the other hand i remember Christian Serbia massacring Muslim Bosnians...
Quoting Daydreamer
Talibans on the other hand kill both "infidels" and those whom they do not consider Muslim enough for religious reasons - no, not exclusively, of course there are other factors as well but their religious fanatism is something that makes them not only shepards with guns.
Taliban calling everyone infidel who dont think exactly like them. But Iraqi civlians were killed because they were seen as muslim terrorists that shows US brainwashed people clearly...
No, it wasn´t the death of a Pole that struck me, it was actually the comment Tami made about now there being one less hillbilly, which proves your theory about them not being sorry for human life at all.
I have no wish to run a campaign to make blinded people see, I know how I feel about it and I know now how they do. There´s no point of debating with people defending killers. I don´t care if Armegon an Tami have posters with bearded guys on their walls, I don´t care what ideology they support. The only thing I´m glad about is that I don´t share their fascination and understanding for killers. They may call me racist, it sounds like a compliment from the mouth of people defending such actions. Let them lie in bed thinking with awe about how Islam is going to prevail and all bed westerners will be beheaded, those remaining at life will be veiled and they´ll be able to spend their life happily waiting for the "grapes" in heaven
A surely has a selective memory - he remembers Serbians murdering Bosnians, but fails to see that what he calls Christian Europe and US sent their troops to help those poor Muslims. Now it puts bed Christians willing to do away with peaceful Muslims in a bit different light, doesn´t it?
Edited (2/11/2009) by Daydreamer
[censoring Femme´s quote]
Where are the, so-called, moderate Muslims when other Muslims are committing hideous crimes in the name of their religion? Is they don´t act according to the religious dogma, why is nobody protesting this, speaking out against it. Silence is tacit approval.
There´s been not a single protest, single demonstration against suicide bombings in Muslim countries (that I know of). Why? Muslisms die too from the hands of suicide bombers, don´t they?
Sure you can talk about the evils of war brought on by the US, but the truth is, there´re people who are speaking against it, protesting, disagreeing with it (even though it has little or nothing to do with religion), who sympathize and empathize with the Muslims that suffer, even if there´s not much they can do themselves to stop it. Where are the Muslims who speak out against the evils committed by other Muslims against both Muslims and non-Muslims?
And to behead somebody like this, you have to be a beast, an animal, a thing that´s lower than a human being. They are sick psychopaths. They make me want to throw up.
And, no, not every criticism of the actions of Muslims is an attack on the religion. Besides, if you don´t want your religion criticised, then don´t use it and don´t allow people to use it to cover up murderous, hineous acts.
Edited (2/10/2009) by Melek74
[Cleaned up the spelling errors]
Edited (2/11/2009) by Melek74
DD, stop talking nonsense and stop performing histrionics, your silly comments as usual started this discussion. Firstly you should hear what you are saying while you are sprinkling salivas from your mouth. Actually you are the one here worthless to debate, your hatred made you stony hearted and disrespectful. Nobody defended killers, but from the comments you made here, it is clearly understood that you see all muslims as terrorists, and its not the first time. I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...
Where are the, so-called, moderate Muslims when other Muslims are committing hideous crimes in the name of their religion? Is they don´t act according to the religious dogma, why is nobody protesting this, speaking out against it. Silence is tacit approval.
There´s been not a single protest, single demonstration against suicide bombings in Muslim countries (that I know of). Why? Muslisms die too from the hands of suicide bombers, don´t they?
Sure you can talk about the evils of war brought on by the US, but the truth is, there´re people who are speaking against it, protesting, disagreeing with it (even though it has little or nothing to do with religion), who sympathize and empathize with the Muslims that suffer, even if there´s not much they can do themselves to stop it. Where are the Muslims who speak out against the evils committed by other Muslims against both Muslims and non-Muslims?
And to behead somebody like this, you have to be a beast, an animal, a thing that´s lower than a human being. They are sick psychopaths. They make me want to throw up.
And, no, not every criticism of the actions of Muslims is an attack on the religion. Besides, if you don´t want your religion criticised, then don´t use it and don´t allow people to use it to cover up murderous, hineous acts.
All of this post: + 100000000 but especially the highlighted sentence!
..I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...
Come on man..
After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..
After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..
thehandsom, þu buraya yazdýklarýnýn yenilecek yutulacak savunulacak yaný yok özellikle de son mesajýnýn sen de hala onu savunacaðým diye çýrpýnýyorsun, þaþýyorum vallahi...
After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..
Well, I guess you could say the same of some of those lovely Christian Americans after each killing of an Iraqi....the only difference is that the "terrorism" from them is legalised
DD, stop talking nonsense and stop performing histrionics, your silly comments as usual started this discussion. Firstly you should hear what you are saying while you are sprinkling salivas from your mouth. Actually you are the one here worthless to debate, your hatred made you stony hearted and disrespectful. Nobody defended killers, but from the comments you made here, it is clearly understood that you see all muslims as terrorists, and its not the first time. I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...
Thank you for your concern, but I have no speech impediment taht I´m aware of so I´m not "sprinkling salivas"
I may say it a million times that I don´t perceive all Muslims as terrorists, and that I´m commenting on radicals only as they´re the ones that give Islam bad press - and you still blab cannot get it. I condemned Israel´s action as well but you use cheap rhetorics to portray me otherwise. Lovely. I apparently do not fit into your idea of biased European. Accept it, it is never black-and-white and people are free to comment on the greyness in the world. The fact that I consider psychos psychos and the fact that they call themselves warriors of Islam is enough to understand my comment. They send a message about how peaceful their religion is -> if you are a Muslim thinking differently then you definitely do your best to hide it.
argh I´m sure you still understand my post as "all Muslims are bad murderers" I can´t make you see that´s not the point so I don´t think I´ll be wasting my time on pointless debates...
Well, I guess you could say the same of some of those lovely Christian Americans after each killing of an Iraqi....the only difference is that the "terrorism" from them is legalised
Thank you for your concern, but I have no speech impediment taht I´m aware of so I´m not "sprinkling salivas"
I may say it a million times that I don´t perceive all Muslims as terrorists, and that I´m commenting on radicals only as they´re the ones that give Islam bad press - and you still blab cannot get it. I condemned Israel´s action as well but you use cheap rhetorics to portray me otherwise. Lovely. I apparently do not fit into your idea of biased European. Accept it, it is never black-and-white and people are free to comment on the greyness in the world. The fact that I consider psychos psychos and the fact that they call themselves warriors of Islam is enough to understand my comment. They send a message about how peaceful their religion is -> if you are a Muslim thinking differently then you definitely do your best to hide it.
argh I´m sure you still understand my post as "all Muslims are bad murderers" I can´t make you see that´s not the point so I don´t think I´ll be wasting my time on pointless debates...
The only one blabing here is you, and as i said this is not the first time of your blabbing, not only me perceived like this now and before. Actually you are one of the best product of west´s Islam hating propogand like the soldiers in Iraq so fit into my idea very well. I dont try to hide anything i clearly say Islam is noones monopoly thus they dont represent Islam, nothing matters whatever they call themselves but you still equating these terrorists with Islam and you use your cheap rhetorics to portray me as we have posters of those terrorists. Its good way to show how you see muslims. It gives good clues about your personality. How a sick mentality portray people like this, where i defended those terrorists? Also my illustration is just a respond to your mentality as i equated you with those Israelis.
Theres nothing wrong in my understanding, it is understood how it should be understood. Btw these pointless debates luckily always started by these provoking mentalities, so get over it...
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Coffee, chocolate and and social networking site Facebook are the most common addictions in the UK, a study into modern lifestyles has revealed
Modern Britons are addicted to Facebook, a survey shows
These modern vices have ousted traditional favourites such as drugs, sex and cigarettes from the top of the charts in a study on our behavioural patterns.
The poll examined the lifestyles of 3,000 people aged under 30.
The study coincides with the launch of Rehab, a programme examining rehabilitation and addiction on the Living channel.
Respondents were quizzed on substances and habits they spent the most money on, those they had previously attempted to cut down on or give up and the modern impulses ruling lives in 2009.
Coffee tops the list of the 10 most common modern addictions, followed by chocolate consumption with Facebook in third place.
The much railed against vices of alcohol and drugs didn´t even make the top 10 addictions.
And the spectre of the credit crunch looms menacingly over the survey with the practice of checking bank accounts coming in as fifth most common addiction.
Vanity was a more traditional popular vice with beauty products scooping fourth most common addiction.
Rehab can be seen on Living on Wednesday, February 11 at 9pm
OMG I am addicted to all three....there is no hope for me
Edited (2/11/2009) by lessluv
[poking someone on facebook, making a coffee and opening my bar of chocolate!]
The only one blabing here is you, and as i said this is not the first time of your blabbing, not only me perceived like this now and before. Actually you are one of the best product of west´s Islam hating propogand like the soldiers in Iraq so fit into my idea very well. I dont try to hide anything i clearly say Islam is noones monopoly thus they dont represent Islam, nothing matters whatever they call themselves but you still equating these terrorists with Islam and you use your cheap rhetorics to portray me as we have posters of those terrorists. Its good way to show how you see muslims. It gives good clues about your personality. How a sick mentality portray people like this, where i defended those terrorists? Also my illustration is just a respond to your mentality as i equated you with those Israelis.
Theres nothing wrong in my understanding, it is understood how it should be understood. Btw these pointless debates luckily always started by these provoking mentalities, so get over it...
I knew you´d understand it like this Now what do I win for sixth sense?
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Thank you for your kindness, and please dont forget to sign the Tshirt then i won take it in all my life
Taking offence has become a national sport for the UK and the slightest hint of an insult is now making headlines in the UK press and TV news. This is a long and in places, very funny article about it.
Taking offence has become a national sport for the UK and the slightest hint of an insult is now making headlines in the UK press and TV news. This is a long and in places, very funny article about it.
I thought this was incredibly funny - it made me laugh out loud at times. Unfortunately I think only native English speakers or those with a very good command of the language will get the full humour of it. (sorry if I cause anyone any offence there  
I thought this was incredibly funny - it made me laugh out loud at times. Unfortunately I think only native English speakers or those with a very good command of the language will get the full humour of it. (sorry if I cause anyone any offence there  
I feel so offended now! Who / what / where can I sue / get my revenge?
I thought this was incredibly funny - it made me laugh out loud at times. Unfortunately I think only native English speakers or those with a very good command of the language will get the full humour of it. (sorry if I cause anyone any offence there  
It is even funnier when you have seen the "bankers" on TV glibly trying to apologise for their "banking" mistakes ............. well we are sorry, was about the measure of it............
I notice that when I edit a post, the original appears on the "Latest Discussion Messages" which makes me look even more salak than I actually am! (Which is quite a lot!)
A convoy of more than 100 vehicles loaded with aid bound for the Gaza Strip left London on Saturday.The convoy, including 12 ambulances and a fire engine, is bearing more than one million pounds (1.4 million dollars, 1.1 million euros) worth of aid.
The vehicles will travel 5,000 miles (8,000 kilometres) through France, Spain and North Africa, crossing from Egypt into Gaza at Rafah in early March.
.....
George Galloway.....We will lead the biggest convoy of British vehicles across North Africa since Montgomery."
A convoy of more than 100 vehicles loaded with aid bound for the Gaza Strip left London on Saturday.The convoy, including 12 ambulances and a fire engine, is bearing more than one million pounds (1.4 million dollars, 1.1 million euros) worth of aid.
The vehicles will travel 5,000 miles (8,000 kilometres) through France, Spain and North Africa, crossing from Egypt into Gaza at Rafah in early March.
.....
George Galloway.....We will lead the biggest convoy of British vehicles across North Africa since Montgomery."
I am sorry but George Galloway is nothing more than a complete pratt! Who has been seen dancing around in tights on UK TV in celebrity Big Brother, and he lost all the credibility he had ever had and that was not much!!!!
I am sorry but George Galloway is nothing more than a complete pratt! Who has been seen dancing around in tights on UK TV in celebrity Big Brother, and he lost all the credibility he had ever had and that was not much!!!!
Fearful memories can be erased using a drug commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, research has shown. .... Strikingly, the effect appeared to be permanent. The spider fear seen in the initial experiment did not return to treated participants.
Fearful memories can be erased using a drug commonly prescribed for high blood pressure, research has shown. .... Strikingly, the effect appeared to be permanent. The spider fear seen in the initial experiment did not return to treated participants.
I still remember a huge black stray dog confronting me in the middle of the night on an empty road years ago or the joke, my sister put a white bed cloth on her and went ´boooo´ to me..
Plus, I want to forget the movie ´jaws´..Because I always have shivers when I swim in deep waters..
I was hoping I could forget them with that drug
Edited (2/16/2009) by thehandsom
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I still remember a huge black stray dog confronting me in the middle of the night on an empty road years ago or the joke, my sister put a white bed cloth on her and went ´boooo´ to me..
Plus, I want to forget the movie ´jaws´..Because I always have shivers when I swim in deep waters..
Officials at Warrington Bank Quay Station agreed to a romance-free zone, which was suggested by the local chamber of commerce. ... If lovers want to smooch, they have to do so in the designated kissing area situated nearby.
Officials at Warrington Bank Quay Station agreed to a romance-free zone, which was suggested by the local chamber of commerce. ... If lovers want to smooch, they have to do so in the designated kissing area situated nearby.
Officials at Warrington Bank Quay Station agreed to a romance-free zone, which was suggested by the local chamber of commerce. ... If lovers want to smooch, they have to do so in the designated kissing area situated nearby.
I still remember a huge black stray dog confronting me in the middle of the night on an empty road years ago or the joke, my sister put a white bed cloth on her and went ´boooo´ to me..
Plus, I want to forget the movie ´jaws´..Because I always have shivers when I swim in deep waters..
I was hoping I could forget them with that drug
Sometimes the fear reaction is a good thing. It gives the adrenaline to escape. We have some very nasty spiders here and being fearful of them is a good thing.
I´m afraid of deep dark water (or any water I can not see what is in it) too, but we do have sharks here and they do damage to people.....not to mention the sting rays and other things in it.
The fancy footwork of grizzlie bears has been revealed by some brilliant filming. The bear was filmed flicking the fish out of the water with their hind feet and catching them in their mouths. Apparently bears don´t mind water, but they don´t like getting their ears wet .............. now does that sound familiar??
Edited (2/18/2009) by libralady
[Added text............. mind not on the job today :)]
The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning. . Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack! Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim!
Edited (2/18/2009) by lady in red
[double vision! :D]
The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning. . Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack! Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim!
The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning. . Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack! Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim!
Now I have heard some good tactics for dudu hunting ......but that one beats them all
The edge of a table - well it caught the bridge of my nose actually but I reckon on a black eye or 2 by tomorrow morning. . Went bowling, tripped up a step on my way onto the lanes and - smack! Only good point was the concerned attention of 2 charming young Turkish employees who rushed to my rescue with tissues to mop up the blood and ice for my nose - which is now twice its normal size!! Çok güzel deðilim!
The innovative vending machine is part of the latest kitkat ‘Working Like a Machine’ campaign, which plays off the idea that people are overwhelmed with the monotony of everyday life and so need to take a break. Consumers better just hope the ‘vendor’ isn’t having his very own break should they need a chocolate break of their own.
This latest craze is being launched in London Victoria National Rail station on Wednesday 17th February.
The Kit Kat machine is operated by an actual human vendor . The consumer experiences the speed and efficiency of a normal vending machine , with the added bonus of having a person to chat to and physically hand them their chocolate treat
The innovative vending machine is part of the latest kitkat ‘Working Like a Machine’ campaign, which plays off the idea that people are overwhelmed with the monotony of everyday life and so need to take a break. Consumers better just hope the ‘vendor’ isn’t having his very own break should they need a chocolate break of their own.
This latest craze is being launched in London Victoria National Rail station on Wednesday 17th February.
The Kit Kat machine is operated by an actual human vendor . The consumer experiences the speed and efficiency of a normal vending machine , with the added bonus of having a person to chat to and physically hand them their chocolate treat
A father and daughter from a US church which has called for homosexuals to be killed, have been banned from entering the UK by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.
Fred Phelps and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper from the Westboro Baptist Church had urged protests against a play being put on in Hampshire.
Queen Mary´s College in Basingstoke is staging The Laramie Project, a play about a man killed for being gay.
The UK Border Agency said it opposed "extremism in all its forms".
A spokesman added: "Both these individuals have engaged in unacceptable behaviour by inciting hatred against a number of communities.
he wanted but I did not let him touch me..NO WAY...
Calmer now?
I tolerated your flirting with DD....your couchsurfing with Trudy (I know about the tutu!)......all the loving exchanges between you and femme during your weekly waxings.....I even looked the other way when you got a new laptop out of nowhere....BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!
I tolerated your flirting with DD....your couchsurfing with Trudy (I know about the tutu!)......all the loving exchanges between you and femme during your weekly waxings.....I even looked the other way when you got a new laptop out of nowhere....BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!
I tolerated your flirting with DD....your couchsurfing with Trudy (I know about the tutu!)......all the loving exchanges between you and femme during your weekly waxings.....I even looked the other way when you got a new laptop out of nowhere....BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH!
but canimcicimbitanem..I am STRICTLY AND categorically denying these allegations..
This is all part of big conspricy to seperate us..
Beheader hubby was hero to U.S. Muslim activists TV network founder got award from controversial group CAIR
A Muslim TV network founder who has been charged with beheading his wife was the recipient of an award from the controversial Council on American-Islamic Relations, the self-described Muslim civil rights group that boasts of its influence on U.S. government policy.
ITALIAN KILLED IN TURKEY: TWO PERSONS INVOLVED, LAWYER
ANKARA, FEBRUARY 18 - New evidence has revealed that more than two perpetrators may have been involved in the rape and murder of Italian artist Pippa Bacca, who was hitch-hiking across Turkey for peace last year, her family lawyer told ANSA today. "The forensic report has revealed that there were at least two, maybe three, involved in the rape and murder of Pippa Bacca," Mehmet Eke said. The trial of the man suspected of murdering Giuseppina Pasqualino Di Marineo in northwestern Turkey, after he picked her up while hitchhiking to Israel on a mission of peace, began in October 2008. Turkish prosecutors have "aggravated life in prison" for sole suspect, 38-year-old Murat Karatas. Bacca departed from the Italian city of Milan together with Silvia Moro, an artist friend, on March 8. The two artists had been hitchhiking to the Israeli city of Tel Aviv hoping to send a "peace message" to the world. Pasqualino and Moro separated from each other in Istanbul on March 19, and after March 31, no further contact could be established with Pasqualino. The 33-year-old artist was found dead in a forest near the town of Gebze in the northwestern province of Kocaeli on April 11.
TheHandsom, Cynicmystic, Tami threads.....it seems that the you have to MOVE OUT OF TURKEY to become hot under the collar and fierce when discussing anything Turkish!
What happened to those who remain in Turkey? Are they subdued from drinking water from Ankara?
a mod that i call heartless (and brainless as well) has again removed my latest posts.
Well actually you are wrong there - the post I removed was 2 weeks or so ago, and I did pm you to ask if you could amend it, as you did not respond I deleted it. This was posted in our admin forum and no one suggested that it should not have been deleted.
I have not even read any of your latest posts, let alone deleted them.
The PM I sent you, 10th Feb, was that your last post????
if you didnt delete my latest posts, then im sorry that i have unnecessarily accused you for that.
Quoting libralady
Well actually you are wrong there - the post I removed was 2 weeks or so ago, and I did pm you to ask if you could amend it, as you did not respond I deleted it. This was posted in our admin forum and no one suggested that it should not have been deleted.
I have not even read any of your latest posts, let alone deleted them.
The PM I sent you, 10th Feb, was that your last post????
has it touched you now when it was a polish archeologist that was beheaded? he is one of those now hundreds who were hunted down by those goat-bearded creatures (that never get criticised for their deeds by our muslim members on tc).
our muslim members never say how awful, how terrible that was to behead someone, to slaughter someone like a sheep, slit his throat, cut of his head and chant a praise to allah.
but of course, instead they would criticise you for daring to call islam for what it is in real (the 7th century mindest of caravan robbing gentlemen association? ). they of course go on to iraq and all that blah blah as if that poor polish guy was to blame for the wars.
do they care for those who were beheaded? do they shout out or write a post of anger?
no, they never get angry with talibs, they dont bother themselves when a school is burnt down together with girls who didnt have proper coverings. or girls in afghanistan are burnt by acid for going to school. or when raped women are stoned to death thanks to sharia (in which our highly educated canli wants to live). or when little school girls in indonesia are beheaded for being christians.
did our muslim members show their concern or sorrow when hundreds of thousands were mass-murdered in darfur? did they cry out when hundreds of thousands of kurds were gazzed down by saddam?
did they share sorrow with those who died in tsunami and rushed with help?
do they today express their anxiety for any victim outside of muslim world?
to them nothing is dear, no life has a value. and you still dont understand it. they will make you shut up. they will put you into the corner and accuse you for racism and you quickly will forget about the tragedy together with the world that is concentrated now on political correctness.
you even will not notice that you started from accusing the talibs and ended up defending yourself from the stake they prepared for you for not being careful when you speak your mind.
for how long now are you going to run ?
PS. ah, i have modified it
if it was about christianity or any other religion, you wouldnt even raise your finger, but since it is about untouchable islam it can be a pain in bottoms.
has it touched you now when it was a polish archeologist that was beheaded? he is one of those now hundreds who were hunted down by those goat-bearded creatures (that never get criticised for their deeds by our muslim members on tc).
our muslim members never say how awful, how terrible that was to behead someone, to slaughter someone like a sheep, slit his throat, cut of his head and chant a praise to allah.
but of course, instead they would criticise you for daring to call islam for what it is in real (the 7th century mindest of caravan robbing gentlemen association? ). they of course go on to iraq and all that blah blah as if that poor polish guy was to blame for the wars.
do they care for those who were beheaded? do they shout out or write a post of anger?
no, they never get angry with talibs, they dont bother themselves when a school is burnt down together with girls who didnt have proper coverings. or girls in afghanistan are burnt by acid for going to school. or when raped women are stoned to death thanks to sharia (in which our highly educated canli wants to live). or when little school girls in indonesia are beheaded for being christians.
did our muslim members show their concern or sorrow when hundreds of thousands were mass-murdered in darfur? did they cry out when hundreds of thousands of kurds were gazzed down by saddam?
did they share sorrow with those who died in tsunami and rushed with help?
do they today express their anxiety for any victim outside of muslim world?
to them nothing is dear, no life has a value. and you still dont understand it. they will make you shut up. they will put you into the corner and accuse you for racism and you quickly will forget about the tragedy together with the world that is concentrated now on political correctness.
you even will not notice that you started from accusing the talibs and ended up defending yourself from the stake they prepared for you for not being careful when you speak your mind.
for how long now are you going to run ?
PS. ah, i have modified it
if it was about christianity or any other religion, you wouldnt even raise your finger, but since it is about untouchable islam it can be a pain in bottoms.
As an aethiest I could not give a toss which religion it was about........... that is not why it was deleted.
As an aethiest I could not give a toss which religion it was about........... that is not why it was deleted.
libra, i and you know that it is not so as you stated above. i have been too long on this site to read your posts, therefore i came to such conclusion, dear. to me you can even be a dudu worshipper, and i know you well from your own posts. to me you are a simple hypocrite.
libra, i and you know that it is not so as you stated above. i have been too long on this site to read your posts, therefore i came to such conclusion, dear. to me you can even be a dudu worshipper, and i know you well from your own posts. to me you are a simple hypocrite.
Yes my dear, I am a dudu worshipper of the highest order........... something you are so obviously jealous of........ but we have more in common than you would like to admit........... that is why you are so angry with me
Yes my dear, I am a dudu worshipper of the highest order........... something you are so obviously jealous of........ but we have more in common than you would like to admit........... that is why you are so angry with me
tell me again, i failed to understand why im angry with you?
i think it is true. you are too late, this was posted last year
I think this popcorn thing is not TRUE!!
After watching so many videos in youtube of people proving this theory wrong, my brother, nephews and myself decided to try it.... we tried it with 4 and 5 phones for several times but nothing happened... we were wondering if it was the porporn´s brand . We were kind of dissapointed that we ended up eating porpcorn but since plan A failed we had to cook them in the microwave..
yet ..I do believe cell phones are harmful, but this porporn thing...not really sure!
Edited (2/21/2009) by geniuda Edited (2/21/2009) by geniuda
about a month ago i tried it too. it didnt work. my kids were disappointed. since i promised them pop-corns i ended up frying them traditionally, plus i had to pay for phone calls
Quoting geniuda
I think this popcorn thing is not TRUE!!
After watching so many videos in youtube of people proving this theory wrong, my brother, nephews and myself decided to try it.... we tried it with 4 and 5 phones for several times but nothing happened... we were wondering if it was the porporn´s brand . We were kind of dissapointed that we ended up eating porpcorn but since plan A failed we had to cook them in the microwave..
yet ..I do believe cell phones are harmful, but this porporn thing...not really sure!
peacetrain i started worrying about you. are you ok?
where does your obsession with asses come from?
Thehandsom, he converted me. I am very grateful to him too. I did relate part of my life story here several months ago, documenting the very traumatic time I had on Blackpool Beach at the tender age of 7. There I was having a sedate ride on a donkey when it suddenly decided to run off. I´ve never been the same since.
Thehandsom, he converted me. I am very grateful to him too. I did relate part of my life story here several months ago, documenting the very traumatic time I had on Blackpool Beach at the tender age of 7. There I was having a sedate ride on a donkey when it suddenly decided to run off. I´ve never been the same since.
about a month ago i tried it too. it didnt work. my kids were disappointed. since i promised them pop-corns i ended up frying them traditionally, plus i had to pay for phone calls
"Try to pop popcorn at a low temperature (below 150 degrees C or 300 degrees F). You will find that the popcorn will not pop -- it has to get beyond a certain temperature for the pressure inside the kernel to build to the point where popping occurs. "
"According to the Occupational Safety and Health Department of the Communication Workers of America (CWA), “As high frequency radio frequency radiation…penetrates the body, the exposed molecules move about and collide with one another causing friction and, thus, heat…If the radiation is powerful enough, the tissue or skin will be heated or burned.”
Microwave and cellphone radiation are similar. They are both radiowaves, and they cause heat, but I cannot decide if the radiation that´s emitted from 4 cellphones are as high as to make the popcorns reach 150 C in such a short time!!!
I would immediately covert to Islam; take the first name Abdullah while keeping your last name in your honour, and demand to be circumcised... just to make mommy happy, of course.
I would immediately covert to Islam; take the first name Abdullah while keeping your last name in your honour, and demand to be circumcised... just to make mommy happy, of course.
à have been there last week, had dinner, and had some oriental drinks on that area !
It just came on the news here...I´ve been looking for it since seeing your post a few minutes ago. We live in violent and dangerous times. I pray for peace
I just missed the WTC towers, and had been there many times before. I lived with them in view from my windows since they were built I lost friends in that incident. You just don´t know if you will be in a bad area or when. But...we always know that, don´t we?
It just came on the news here...I´ve been looking for it since seeing your post a few minutes ago. We live in violent and dangerous times. I pray for peace
I just missed the WTC towers, and had been there many times before. I lived with them in view from my windows since they were built I lost friends in that incident. You just don´t know if you will be in a bad area or when. But...we always know that, don´t we?
You cant imagine how peaceful is this place
foreigner and Egyptians go there on regular bases, and we cant stop going there too
Ãts the heart of Cairo...old Cairo.
Ãts like when you want to have a good dinner with the smell of history, or have your tea inside history, you go there
Ãts like you are in a different time, old Cairo, old houses, old mosques, the aroma, its where the first Ãslamic Uni Al Azhar, and the mosque of El Hüseyin
Everything actually
So imagining you could have been there on that time and that happened ?!
foreigner and Egyptians go there on regular bases, and we cant stop going there too
Ãts the heart of Cairo...old Cairo.
Ãts like when you want to have a good dinner with the smell of history, or have your tea inside history, you go there
Ãts like you are in a different time, old Cairo, old houses, old mosques, the aroma, its where the first Ãslamic Uni Al Azhar, and the mosque of El Hüseyin
Everything actually
So imagining you could have been there on that time and that happened ?!
Why, and for what ?
And why now too?!!!
People are suffering enough !
Canli, I´m so sad for you and your countrymen. Who could do such a horrible thing?
We live in dangerous times...very. I really sympathize with you. You must feel so violated. Huggs canim.....please accept my inadequete expression of sympathy.
Canli, I´m so sad for you and your countrymen. Who could do such a horrible thing?
We live in dangerous times...very. I really sympathize with you. You must feel so violated. Huggs canim.....please accept my inadequete expression of sympathy.
Thank you Caným
Actually yes, things here didnt need this too
à mean, its hard time, economic crisis, people struggle with their living everyday, some even dont know if they will be able to earn their living for the next day or not, and they keep struggling
They struggle for themselves to live, then struggle again to establish a family, again not easy
Then struggle trying to provide good living to that family.
So life is not an easy task
Safety is/was never an issue to us.
So who would want to add such burden to the people ?!
Seeking what ?!
à dont get it
For a while yes, i felt violated, thought ´´ohh now no one would know what will happen i better watch out ´´
But you know, i refuse to carry that burden too.
à mean no one would violate my safety in my country !
A hysteria of a romanian TV presentor, she was leading a show based on prizes for those who phone in and answer to a specific question. Since noone phoned, she had enough of nice smiling-waiting-tempting behaviour got histerical smashed the phone, shouted out-loud, " I want this phone to ring!" etc.
For more details and an unforgettable show, here´s the link on youtube.
Post from a member (male) requesting a transation of his declaration of undying love to a girl who he loves ´like he has never loved another before´ - just one week after posting his email address in the forums with the message ´I´m searching for a beautiful girl - so holla me if we have something in common´!
Wow! The power of the internet (and TC) is truly amazing!!!
Post from a member (male) requesting a transation of his declaration of undying love to a girl who he loves ´like he has never loved another before´ - just one week after posting his email address in the forums with the message ´I´m searching for a beautiful girl - so holla me if we have something in common´!
Wow! The power of the internet (and TC) is truly amazing!!!
Oh this makes me weepy. Love is such a wonderful thing!!
Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit .
After several failed attempts trying to grab the rabbit , we removed our coats to try and cover it with a bull fighting technique . ´ The ten strong team chased the rabbit for 200 yards through the streets of Northgate , Canterbury , before finally managing to surround and detain it .
Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit .
After several failed attempts trying to grab the rabbit , we removed our coats to try and cover it with a bull fighting technique . ´ The ten strong team chased the rabbit for 200 yards through the streets of Northgate , Canterbury , before finally managing to surround and detain it .
Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit .
I recently followed a Jackrabbit. At first I thought it was a mutant creature. They look very odd when they walk, and he was so confidant I would not hit him he walked down the road in front of me.
Post from a member (male) requesting a transation of his declaration of undying love to a girl who he loves ´like he has never loved another before´ - just one week after posting his email address in the forums with the message ´I´m searching for a beautiful girl - so holla me if we have something in common´!
Wow! The power of the internet (and TC) is truly amazing!!!
Giant Rabbit lead Police a Merry Dance . A giant rabbit caused traffic chaos and evaded capture by the police in a busy town centre. PC Matt Jackson and PC Yasmin Mossadegh saw the rabbit which weighs 20lbs and is the size of a small dog as it charged them while they were on patrol late on Saturday night . After spending 10 minutes fruitlessly trying to grab the animal they had to call on eight members of the public to finally capture the rabbit .
I recently followed a Jackrabbit. At first I thought it was a mutant creature. They look very odd when they walk, and he was so confidant I would not hit him he walked down the road in front of me.
We call it a hare in the UK. Must be a connection to thehandsom. No wonder he was keen to share the story. Sheer nepotism.
Why do outspoken men on this site end up with their devoted female followers who are there to back them up and mop their brows, while the outspoken females are merely called names....
Why do outspoken men on this site end up with their devoted female followers who are there to back them up and mop their brows, while the outspoken females are merely called names....
How silly of me to not understand that "public" should mean "private".
Ohhh here I go showing my lack of intelligence once again.
I am shocked that you show such a low level of sophistication! Would you please post some links that provide academic explainations of what the meaning of "intelligence" is. I don´t just want YOUR OPINION! We don´t need people who can think for themselves around here!
and you, lisa, leveling me with your jokes on levels.
im waiting for Melek to start a thread for quotes.
Quoting Elisabeth
I am shocked that you show such a low level of sophistication! Would you please post some links that provide academic explainations of what the meaning of "intelligence" is. I don´t just want YOUR OPINION! We don´t need people who can think for themselves around here!
100ft Birthday Greeting Carved in Sand . Jeff Brook Smith has surprised his partner of seven years with a giant birthday greeting that he carved on the beach with a rake . .. spent four hours creating the greeting near the couple´s seaside home in Scarborough, North Yorkshire ...
100ft Birthday Greeting Carved in Sand . Jeff Brook Smith has surprised his partner of seven years with a giant birthday greeting that he carved on the beach with a rake . .. spent four hours creating the greeting near the couple´s seaside home in Scarborough, North Yorkshire ...
Awwww, bless, he must have it bad!!! Good job it was decent weather...........
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Almost 5,000 people sign up to take their place as part of sculptor´s ´living artwork´ in Trafalgar Square
Ever since Antony Gormley was commissioned to winch people up on a plinth in the middle of Trafalgar Square to do whatever they wished, doom-mongers have predicted the "living artwork" would become a soapbox for extremists, nudists and the nation´s most depraved exhibitionists.
But for the sculptor, there is only one worse outcome than this: for none of the above to happen.
...
"Unless there is a degree of contention up there, it will have no teeth. The project will be limp... I would be very upset if somebody didn´t take their clothes off......
The nation came closer to finding out who would be drawn to Gormley´s theatre of the soapbox when internet registration began yesterday. By 3pm, 4,700 people had signed up.
Over 100 days, 2,400 randomly selected applicants will be carted on to the plinth for one hour each, to make incendiary speeches across the square or merely stare up at the clouds.
...
"There will be those self-selecting exhibitionists that have been burning to communicate their acts or words ...
Gormley said that the artwork would also act as an "important archive" which would become a reference source at sociology and anthropology departments of the London School of Economics.
.. His critics, however, have said the greatest debate is whether this idea constitutes art at all.
Almost 5,000 people sign up to take their place as part of sculptor´s ´living artwork´ in Trafalgar Square
Ever since Antony Gormley was commissioned to winch people up on a plinth in the middle of Trafalgar Square to do whatever they wished, doom-mongers have predicted the "living artwork" would become a soapbox for extremists, nudists and the nation´s most depraved exhibitionists.
But for the sculptor, there is only one worse outcome than this: for none of the above to happen.
...
"Unless there is a degree of contention up there, it will have no teeth. The project will be limp... I would be very upset if somebody didn´t take their clothes off......
The nation came closer to finding out who would be drawn to Gormley´s theatre of the soapbox when internet registration began yesterday. By 3pm, 4,700 people had signed up.
Over 100 days, 2,400 randomly selected applicants will be carted on to the plinth for one hour each, to make incendiary speeches across the square or merely stare up at the clouds.
...
"There will be those self-selecting exhibitionists that have been burning to communicate their acts or words ...
Gormley said that the artwork would also act as an "important archive" which would become a reference source at sociology and anthropology departments of the London School of Economics.
.. His critics, however, have said the greatest debate is whether this idea constitutes art at all.
I am sure Ryaniar will soon charge you to sit in your seat (after you have bought your ticket) or speak to the air hostess, even climb the stairs to get into the plane. They are doing away with check in desks, everyone will have to check in online........... so more redundancies and longer/slower queues at the passport control................ Banning luggage must be on the agenda soon...................
I am sure Ryaniar will soon charge you to sit in your seat (after you have bought your ticket) or speak to the air hostess, even climb the stairs to get into the plane. They are doing away with check in desks, everyone will have to check in online........... so more redundancies and longer/slower queues at the passport control................ Banning luggage must be on the agenda soon...................
The money for the toilet is not a problem but.... can anyone change this fifty pound note?
Almost 5,000 people sign up to take their place as part of sculptor´s ´living artwork´ in Trafalgar Square
Ever since Antony Gormley was commissioned to winch people up on a plinth in the middle of Trafalgar Square to do whatever they wished, doom-mongers have predicted the "living artwork" would become a soapbox for extremists, nudists and the nation´s most depraved exhibitionists.
I will be one of the applicants..woohoo..
You brits..you will all see what a hairy Turk looks like.
Performance art exhibitions like this have taken place in London before now -
I was auditioning for a male strip group for the Lounge last night (I needed to attract more punters...I had girls queuing up, but alas...no group
Of course I´m paying attention.. (I was peeking at the Lounge at 10pm UK time.. ) But I´m thinking that since nobody showed up, we could have had a "fur show" at the least...
Illusionists Siegfried and Roy headed back to the stage for a one-night-only comeback performance Saturday, more than five years after a brutal tiger attack ended the careers of the longtime Las Vegas duo.
The charity performance was promoted as the "the final bow" for Roy Horn and Siegfried Fischbacher, the German-born showmen responsible for one of the most successful shows in Las Vegas history.
The two had been stage partners for 45 years when a 380-pound Bengal tiger named Montecore sank its teeth into Horn´s neck during a live performance and dragged him offstage in front of a stunned audience.
Horn, now 64, was partially paralyzed, suffering a damaged neck artery and crushed windpipe in the October 2003 attack.
"You probably knew that brown is the most common eye color worldwide, but did you know that green is by far the rarest? In fact, less than 2 percent of the global population possesses green eyes. As a country, Turkey has the highest percentage of citizens who have green eyes, at 20 percent. There are a number of countries – generally located in Asia, South America, and the Middle East – where green eyes are almost completely absent among the population."
Did you know that blue eyes are the most common eye color for Caucasians"
Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.
"You probably knew that brown is the most common eye color worldwide, but did you know that green is by far the rarest? In fact, less than 2 percent of the global population possesses green eyes. As a country, Turkey has the highest percentage of citizens who have green eyes, at 20 percent. There are a number of countries – generally located in Asia, South America, and the Middle East – where green eyes are almost completely absent among the population."
Did you know that blue eyes are the most common eye color for Caucasians"
Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.
Interesting.... I also understand that the brown eye gene is more dominent so that if a blue eyed and brown eyed couple have a child, he/she will usually have brown eyes
Interesting.... I also understand that the brown eye gene is more dominent so that if a blue eyed and brown eyed couple have a child, he/she will usually have brown eyes
Brown is dominent to blue eye, but the standard eye color theory tells that the mother and the father have two eye color allenes in their genes.
B= brown eye allele
b = blue eye allele
If his/her eye color genes are BB, then it´s a very high probability that with a blue eyed person which is bb, he/she will have a brown eyed child, but if the brown eyed person have genes as Bb, which means that pysically he has brown eyes but genetically half of its eye color genes are blue, it just does not reflect to his pysical apperance. So, in this case, with a blue eyed person (bb), the probability of having a blue eyed child is two times higher than the probability of having a brown eyed child. With this theory, even two brown eyed person if both of them have Bb genes, can have blue eyed child.
Though, this theory is very simplistic, and it does not explain the color variations and some eye colors such as "hazel" (which is not one color in fact but a mixture of different colors). Now, it´s thought that the eye color determining allenes are more than two and the process is much more complicated.
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Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.
Actually what caught my eye in Turkey were not green but brownish eyes. Not really brown but more like honey, I haven´t seen that colour in Europe. I liked it a lot.
Hmm..I´m blue-eyed, Mr Daydreamer is brown-eyed and I wonder what colour our son inherited. For now he´s got blue eyes but I´ve heard that it may change...
Brown is dominent to blue eye, but the standard eye color theory tells that the mother and the father have two eye color allenes in their genes.
B= brown eye allele
b = blue eye allele
If his/her eye color genes are BB, then it´s a very high probability that with a blue eyed person which is bb, he/she will have a brown eyed child, but if the brown eyed person have genes as Bb, which means that pysically he has brown eyes but genetically half of its eye color genes are blue, it just does not reflect to his pysical apperance. So, in this case, with a blue eyed person (bb), the probability of having a blue eyed child is two times higher than the probability of having a brown eyed child. With this theory, even two brown eyed person if both of them have Bb genes, can have blue eyed child.
Though, this theory is very simplistic, and it does not explain the color variations and some eye colors such as "hazel" (which is not one color in fact but a mixture of different colors). Now, it´s thought that the eye color determining allenes are more than two and the process is much more complicated.
Very interesting....it explains a great deal...but what about green eyes? From what little research on the matter I´ve done, it seems Neanderthal had green eyes. Aren´t blue eyes are a relatively recent mutation?
Actually what caught my eye in Turkey were not green but brownish eyes. Not really brown but more like honey, I haven´t seen that colour in Europe. I liked it a lot.
Hmm..I´m blue-eyed, Mr Daydreamer is brown-eyed and I wonder what colour our son inherited. For now he´s got blue eyes but I´ve heard that it may change...
DD..
Gosh!!
My blood started travel very fast in my body now..
I will send you a close range picture of my eyes..
Very interesting....it explains a great deal...but what about green eyes? From what little research on the matter I´ve done, it seems Neanderthal had green eyes. Aren´t blue eyes are a relatively recent mutation?
There´s green allele (G) too, like blue (b) and brown (B). G is dominant to b but recessive to B.
Though somewhere else I saw that scientists still don’t know exactly how green eyes happen. They suspect that a separate gene causes green eyes and have even named this unidentified gene gey.
But eye color genetics is very complicated. A good explanation has not been found yet.
And don´t know about Neanderthal.
In fact, it´s an interesting subject, but I just learned about this simple theory at school which basically explains the eye color genetics. Otherwise, I don´t have much idea about genetics.
Actually what caught my eye in Turkey were not green but brownish eyes. Not really brown but more like honey, I haven´t seen that colour in Europe. I liked it a lot.
Hmm..I´m blue-eyed, Mr Daydreamer is brown-eyed and I wonder what colour our son inherited. For now he´s got blue eyes but I´ve heard that it may change...
If you know the eye color of your husband´s parents, you can have more idea.
My blood started travel very fast in my body now..
I will send you a close range picture of my eyes..
of course you will. photos of your eyes, your cars, your other wives, medical tests results, recommendation letters from all mistresses - like you always do on a weekly basis
There´s green allele (G) too, like blue (b) and brown (B). G is dominant to b but recessive to B.
Though somewhere else I saw that scientists still don’t know exactly how green eyes happen. They suspect that a separate gene causes green eyes and have even named this unidentified gene gey.
But eye color genetics is very complicated. A good explanation has not been found yet.
And don´t know about Neanderthal.
In fact, it´s an interesting subject, but I just learned about this simple theory at school which basically explains the eye color genetics. Otherwise, I don´t have much idea about genetics.
I have a child in my class of Pakistani origin who has beautiful blue eyes. She is also very fair skinned and her hair is not dark brown by any means. I think there is a region in Pakistan where the inhabitants have these characteristics. Another Pakistani heritage child has the most striking green eyes. When he first started nursery, he was very self conscious.
Last, but by no means least, there is an Indian heritage child in our school who has bright red hair!!!!! It looks like something out of a bottle, but it is completely genuine.
I have a child in my class of Pakistani origin who has beautiful blue eyes. She is also very fair skinned and her hair is not dark brown by any means. I think there is a region in Pakistan where the inhabitants have these characteristics. Another Pakistani heritage child has the most striking green eyes. When he first started nursery, he was very self conscious.
Last, but by no means least, there is an Indian heritage child in our school who has bright red hair!!!!! It looks like something out of a bottle, but it is completely genuine.
Remember that amazing photograph of the Afghan girl with green eyes?
I think they are decendants of Alexander´s group. There are quite a few from that area with redish hair, blue and green eyes and fair skin.
interesting! if some of the borats happen to be a bit blondish, they actually have green eyes. grrrrr! weird. i ve got a few green eyed cousins.
Quoting mltm
Some facts about eye color
"You probably knew that brown is the most common eye color worldwide, but did you know that green is by far the rarest? In fact, less than 2 percent of the global population possesses green eyes. As a country, Turkey has the highest percentage of citizens who have green eyes, at 20 percent. There are a number of countries – generally located in Asia, South America, and the Middle East – where green eyes are almost completely absent among the population."
Did you know that blue eyes are the most common eye color for Caucasians"
Don´t know if this caught your attention when you visited Turkey.
Remember that amazing photograph of the Afghan girl with green eyes?
I think they are decendants of Alexander´s group. There are quite a few from that area with redish hair, blue and green eyes and fair skin.
i heard about that too. they seem to be a sensational ethnic group living out up there in the mountains, where thats how they were isolated for centuries.
on the other hand when you look at greeks, they dont seem to be blue eyed blondes.
this website didnt want to work properly for about 10 mins (i think)
For some reason Aenigma´s post about the cricketers in Pakistan ´messed up´ the page. With her permission I permanently deleted it and she can try again.
For some reason Aenigma´s post about the cricketers in Pakistan ´messed up´ the page. With her permission I permanently deleted it and she can try again.
For some reason Aenigma´s post about the cricketers in Pakistan ´messed up´ the page. With her permission I permanently deleted it and she can try again.
We just learn that if a woman puts up a picture in which she is kissing, she is not allowed to talk about women´s right what so ever..
next level is, we stone the women who work in brothels
Yes I noticed that too
What is more shocking is that Gentlemen are disappointing me these days...the other day when it was raining, I noticed that NO GENTLEMAN took off his coat and placed in the puddle for me
Me too actually.But i guess a rotten fish is not that powerful without a dog..
but let us be precise: a german shepherd! where should i place the toilet seat? im kinda puzzled now over positions. i cant place them in order and connect somehow: rotten fish, german shepherd, toilet seat, a print paper as a toilet paper
What is more shocking is that Gentlemen are disappointing me these days...the other day when it was raining, I noticed that NO GENTLEMAN took off his coat and placed in the puddle for me
By the way, are we still in 1709?
unfortunately millions and millions are further than that
What is more shocking is that Gentlemen are disappointing me these days...the other day when it was raining, I noticed that NO GENTLEMAN took off his coat and placed in the puddle for me
By the way, are we still in 1709?
I guess, you have to check what the definition of gentelmen for you..
I guess, you have to check what the definition of gentelmen for you..
I don´t need to check! It is an old word for a titled man who had money and didn´t work (same as Lady). It is now used by signwriters on Public Toilets and by people who still love stereotypical roles for "ladies" and "gentlemen". It can also be used for a man who has good manners.
I don´t need to check! It is an old word for a titled man who had money and didn´t work (same as Lady). It is now used by signwriters on Public Toilets and by people who still love stereotypical roles for "ladies" and "gentlemen". It can also be used for a man who has good manners.
OK?
It does not seem that you do have a definition for yourself..
I don´t need to check! It is an old word for a titled man who had money and didn´t work (same as Lady). It is now used by signwriters on Public Toilets and by people who still love stereotypical roles for "ladies" and "gentlemen". It can also be used for a man who has good manners.
Naked at the university belt to protest the looming tuition fee increase and to call on the government to impose a moratorium on the hikes due to the global economic crisis, in Manila, Philippines, March 2, 2009.
Naked at the university belt to protest the looming tuition fee increase and to call on the government to impose a moratorium on the hikes due to the global economic crisis, in Manila, Philippines, March 2, 2009.
Naked at the university belt to protest the looming tuition fee increase and to call on the government to impose a moratorium on the hikes due to the global economic crisis, in Manila, Philippines, March 2, 2009.
Solidarity with these students please..
I am sure Mum and Dad are so proud of their fine young college students!
PRESIDENT Barack Obama is caught up in a new gay sex and drug scandal - and his loving wife is heartbroken, sources tell GLOBE in a blockbuster world exclusive. Find out all the details of the letter Michelle Obama received from the MAN who claims to be her husband´s lover - and how America´s devastated First Lady is fighting back against a shocking new tell-all book. It´s must reading!
PRESIDENT Barack Obama is caught up in a new gay sex and drug scandal - and his loving wife is heartbroken, sources tell GLOBE in a blockbuster world exclusive. Find out all the details of the letter Michelle Obama received from the MAN who claims to be her husband´s lover - and how America´s devastated First Lady is fighting back against a shocking new tell-all book. It´s must reading!
Nothing wrong with some poppers and sweaty man-to-man love...
Hehhe... the llink works fine by the way (for me)... Can´t wait for the book. I wonder if he is a top or a bottom. Or, better yet, just verstile depending on the occassion and the mood... Wow
Quoting tamikidakika
Michelle Obama´s Tears
PRESIDENT Barack Obama is caught up in a new gay sex and drug scandal - and his loving wife is heartbroken, sources tell GLOBE in a blockbuster world exclusive. Find out all the details of the letter Michelle Obama received from the MAN who claims to be her husband´s lover - and how America´s devastated First Lady is fighting back against a shocking new tell-all book. It´s must reading!
Stuffed love: The baby monkey whose surrogate mother is a cuddly toy
A baby monkey is being hand-reared at a zoo with the aid of a cuddly toy acting as a surrogate mother after being shunned by the primate who gave birth to her.
Keepers at Port Lympne Wild Animal Park, near Ashford, Kent, stepped in to care for the infant DeBrazza’s Monkey after her mother experienced an exhausting and difficult labour.
Bamboo, 19, gave birth by Caesarean section which left her unable to show normal maternal instincts towards her offspring. .. Her new brown furry friend matches the DeBrazza’s monkey’s colouring and comes with a mechanised beating heart, which flutters when the baby squeezes it.
There is convincing evidence for an increased risk of cardiovascular and metabolic complications associated with shift work, but the underlying mechanisms were largely unknown,” said Frank Scheer, a neuroscientist in BWH’s Division of Sleep Medicine, associate director of the Medical Chronobiology Program at BWH, a Harvard Medical School instructor in medicine, and lead author of the paper. “We studied the influence of circadian misalignment, typical of shift work, on physiological pathways involved in glucose metabolism, the regulation of body weight, and cardiovascular function as a possible mechanism.”
Scheer also noted that circadian misalignment caused three patients with no history of diabetes to show post-meal glucose levels typical of those with pre-diabetes. “This suggests that in some otherwise healthy people, irregular sleep patterns could increase the risk for the development of diabetes.
but you dont always that great company to make it greater with Wii...
I love it - especially the ski jumping and bowling It is the only kind of computer game I like - I hate them usually - just sitting staring at a screen...Zzzzzzzzz!
I love it - especially the ski jumping and bowling It is the only kind of computer game I like - I hate them usually - just sitting staring at a screen...Zzzzzzzzz!
When it comes to Bagram, tactics and arguments remain unchanged from the Bush years. No wonder human rights lawyers have lately taken to referring to that prison as the ´other Guantanamo´
When it comes to Bagram, tactics and arguments remain unchanged from the Bush years. No wonder human rights lawyers have lately taken to referring to that prison as the ´other Guantanamo´
Is this the luckiest man alive? Turkish man walking beside a lorry that gets hit by an on coming train, he was the wrong side of the lorry to see the train coming. He is knocked under the lorry and hit by the train and has escaped with a few cuts and bruises................. and life is beautiful!!
Elisabeth has joined Babyglam in staring at the Main Page
IT IS LIKE STEPFORD WIVES!
Any TC woman who is funny or rebelious is being killed and replaced with an android who is passive and just stares at the main page and waits to be sent spam!
Elisabeth has joined Babyglam in staring at the Main Page
IT IS LIKE STEPFORD WIVES!
Any TC woman who is funny or rebelious is being killed and replaced with an android who is passive and just stares at the main page and waits to be sent spam!
IT IS ALL A CONSPIRACY
I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago! Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish! Why do people think I want to learn Turkish???? If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!! I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!!
Anyway, this Stepford Wife thing is completely untrue! TC is my homepage at work. Occasionally, I get called away from my desk when OTHER annoying person wants me to do some WORK! OFFFFFF!! So glad its Friday!!
I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago! Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish! Why do people think I want to learn Turkish???? If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!! I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!!
Anyway, this Stepford Wife thing is completely untrue! TC is my homepage at work. Occasionally, I get called away from my desk when OTHER annoying person wants me to do some WORK! OFFFFFF!! So glad its Friday!!
Thank god! You areeeeeeee aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago! Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish! Why do people think I want to learn Turkish???? If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!! I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!!
Anyway, this Stepford Wife thing is completely untrue! TC is my homepage at work. Occasionally, I get called away from my desk when OTHER annoying person wants me to do some WORK! OFFFFFF!! So glad its Friday!!
do you seriously think we´re that naive? We know very well that it´s your dudu manipulating you in order to get info about new sources of mobiles and laptops...
I WAS sent spam, just a few minutes ago! Another annoying offer to help me learn Turkish! Why do people think I want to learn Turkish???? If I really wanted to learn, I would probably know it by NOW!! I have only known my Turkish dudu for 20 YEARS!!
Oh
Has it really been 20 years? I still remember the first phone you sent me..Of course mobile phones were not invented at the time and it was really big..
And will you pass me the name of that spammer please? (he will have a second sunnet)..
Has it really been 20 years? I still remember the first phone you sent me..Of course mobile phones were not invented at the time and it was really big..
And will you pass me the name of that spammer please? (he will have a second sunnet)..
handsom...don´t you remember the first gift I got you???? It was a Walkman! It was all the rage with dudus that summer!
Oh and......Please don´t be jealous....the spammer is now on my ignore list
I have sent you several hundred dollars via Western Union. I am sorry I couldn´t send more but I had to pay my electricity bill.
Ohhh..
But..dont you love me anymore??
Dont you have any friends or relatives or even neighbours? have you tried your neighbours?
You know me canimbalimsekerimbitanem..
I would not ask if I did not need desperately..
Well..if you dont send more, I have to think about my future..Trudy keeps inviting me into her couch for surfing.. She keeps saying that money is not a problem..But I dont want to do it..
Dont you have any friends or relatives or even neighbours? have you tried your neighbours?
You know me canimbalimsekerimbitanem..
I would not ask if I did not need desperately..
Well..if you dont send more, I have to think about my future..Trudy keeps inviting me into her couch for surfing.. She keeps saying that money is not a problem..But I dont want to do it..
You liar! You said there was nothing in the world you wanted more but you were so afraid of Elisabeth´s revenge that you wouldn´t dare take chances!!!
So as the vigil is not necessary you are not offering soup to everyone tonight?
i have cooked a huge pot of soup, of course, i will be there, we will turn this vigil into party bring some fluids to sip in case i forget the blankets made out of hairy´s hair he donated me last year.
i have cooked a huge pot of soup, of course, i will be there, we will turn this vigil into party bring some fluids to sip in case i forget the blankets made out of hairy´s hair he donated me last year.
I knew I could rely on you!
It is very chilly out there so warmest burkas tonight girls
You´re both wrong. God´s a Polish immigrant. His name is Joziu.
Have you spoken to him? Huh? Not many can say they´ve heard a voice telling ´you speak with God´. (Darn, that psychiatric hotline will be the next number I have to call...)
Have you spoken to him? Huh? Not many can say they´ve heard a voice telling ´you speak with God´. (Darn, that psychiatric hotline will be the next number I have to call...)
I can´t say that I have. He won´t talk to me, I´m not "saved". But I´m on first-name basis with the Devil (Rysio, I call him), he´s much more fun.
DHAKA (AFP) – At first glance, Bably Akter looks like any other nine-year-old Bangladeshi girl, dressed in a brightly coloured pink and turquoise skirt and top trimmed with silver sequins.
A matching headband conceals her left ear, badly deformed and the only obvious sign she is the victim of an acid attack, a practice rampant in the impoverished country, used mainly in domestic disputes and against women and children.
As her mother, Parul, recounts the story of how Bably´s father put drops of acid on different parts of her body every day for five days when she was a baby, the little girl lifts her skirt to reveal a large scar on her legs and feet.
"Her father wanted a son. He´d been violent towards me before Bably was born but it was not until day five, when he actually fed her acid I realised something was seriously wrong," Parul, 26, said.
Vatican defends rape-abortion case excommunicationAgence France-Presse March 8, 2009
ROME - A senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication of the mother and doctors of a 9-year-old girl who had an abortion in Brazil after being raped. ....
The regional archbishop, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, pronounced excommunication for the mother for authorizing the operation and the doctors who conducted it.
He also said the stepfather accused of the rape would not be expelled from the church, because, while it was "a heinous crime . . . the abortion - the elimination of an innocent life - was more serious." ....
Turks holding portraits of loved ones protest civil war missing.
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March 7, 2009, Istanbul, Turkey: Relatives of people who disappeared during the 1990s protest in Istanbul to ask for the release of information regarding their relatives. Those protests have started again after revelations regarding Ergenekon, an ultra-nationalist network of high-ranking military and civil official, as well as business and mafia leaders. There are currently searches in south-eastern Turkey to locate "acid wells" where the network´s victims were discarded. Turks holding portraits of loved ones protest civil war missing.
I dont remember the last number but I think the number of missings were around 17.000!!
By NATHALIE OGI, Associated Press Writer Nathalie Ogi, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 11 mins ago
GENEVA – A well-known prostitute who campaigned for the rights and dignity of sex workers was given an honored place of rest on Monday, in the same cemetery where Protestantism´s John Calvin is buried, and some women activists criticized the decision.
Griselidis Real, who died in 2005, was buried in the presence of 200 people at the Cemetery of the Kings, which is reserved for individuals that have profoundly marked Swiss or international history. Argentinian writer Jose Luis Borges and child psychologist Jean Piaget are among the luminaries interred there.
The body of Real, who was 76 when she died only 10 years after she is said to have given up prostitution, was exhumed from another cemetery in Geneva for the ceremony that some — particularly women — have called offensive.
"If every woman that had children to raise alone turned to prostitution, the city of Geneva would be a bordello," said Amelia Christinat, a feminist and former member of the Swiss parliament who opposed Real´s reburial.
By MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press Writer Maggie Michael, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 6 mins ago
CAIRO – A 75-year-old widow in Saudi Arabia has been sentenced to 40 lashes and four months in jail for mingling with two young men who are not close relatives, drawing new criticism for the kingdom´s ultraconservative religious police and judiciary.
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The newspaper Al-Watan said the woman met with the two 24-year-old men last April after she asked them to bring her five loaves of bread at her home in al-Chamil, a city north of the capital, Riyadh. Al-Watan identified one man as Fahd al-Anzi, the nephew of Sawadi´s late husband, and the other as his friend and business partner Hadiyan bin Zein. It said they were arrested by the religious police after delivering the bread. The men also were convicted and sentenced to lashes and prison.
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Saudi Arabia´s strict interpretation of Islam prohibits men and women who are not immediate relatives from mingling. It also bars women from driving, and the playing of music, dancing and many movies also are a concern for hard-liners who believe they violate religious and moral values.
Afghanistan: Court upholds jail term for ´blasphemous´ reporter
Kabul, 9 March (AKI) - Afghanistan´s Supreme Court has upheld a 20-year jail term for blasphemy handed to Afghan journalist Sayed Parwez Kambakhsh, who claimed men and women were equal. Kambakhsh´s brother said the family had just learned of the closed-door ruling delivered a month ago in the absence of Yaqub Kambakhsh, his lawyer or family members, the Information Safety and Freedom media watchdog reported on Monday.
"We thought there would be some justice in the capital of Afghanistan and even at the highest level of the judicial system," wrote Yaqub Kambakhsh in a letter sent to Information Safety and Freedom.
"But their silent decision seems that first of all there is no justice in Afghanistan at any level. "Kambakhsh is the latest victim."
Twenty-eight year-old Kambakhsh´s troubles began in 1997, when he wrote in his blog that "extremist mullahs" had distorted the true meaning of Islam´s holy book or Koran.
"If a Muslim man may have four wives, why shouldn´t a wife have four husbands," he wrote.
He was arrested on blasphemy charges in the northern town of Mazar-i-Sharif in 2007 and in October that year a local court condemned him to death
The death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment following pressure from international human rights organisations.
Yaqub Kambakhsh visited Italy and other European countries last month to try and muster support for his brother´s release and fears for his safety in prison.
"We, Parwez´s relations, his colleaues and his lawyers fear he could be murdered in prison, possibly by poisoning - he wouldn´t be the first such victim," he stated in an interview with Italian daily Corriere della Sera.
Corriere della Sera quoted Italy´s under-secretary for foreign affairs, Alfredo Mantica as claiming the government was concerned about Kambakhsh, but considered it better to intervene after presidential elections due in August 2009 to avoid "politicising" the case.
"It´s a fact that Afghanistan´s courts are strongly influenced by the religious authorities," Mantica stated.
The Pakistani Taliban in the troubled Khyber tribal region have warned authorities not to issue national identity cards to women, saying the practice is un-Islamic.
Omar Farooq, the commander of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan in Khyber Agency, warned the National Database and Registration Authority that its offices would be attacked if it issued identity cards to women.
Farooq told reporters on phone from an unknown location that making identity cards for women went against Islamic rules. The Taliban will not allow women to obtain these cards, he said.
He also warned women that they would have to face the consequences if they went to NADRA offices to get themselves registered for the identity cards.
The Taliban in Swat valley of the North Western Frontier Province and parts of the restive tribal have banned girls education and barred women from visiting markets unless they are accompanied by male relatives.
Muslim Woman Self Immolates Rather Than Continue Desperate Life
53 year old Afghan widow, Jan Bibi, chose to pour gasoline over her body and light herself on fire rather than continue her desperate life. As an aging muslim woman - with no husband - she was on the bottom rung of Afghan life and considered a pariah of society. She had little chance of finding work due to her gender and even less chance of finding a new husband due to her age. So a painful, skin blistering-flesh charring death by fire seemed the only solution to her desolate situation.
"One expert comments that "a few months ago, Taliban leaders, believed to be moderate, indicated the three points that for them are nonnegotiable: that all the soldiers from other countries leave; that there be no foreign interference in Afghan politics; and that sharia (Islamic law) be applied." LINK
Thus Obama´s publicized thoughts of "reaching out" to the Taliban are cause for consternation and fear particularly among the Afghan women - many who hope the United States presence in Afghanistan will increase the success of democracy and offer continuing hope and positive change to their grim existence under the Taliban/Sharia Law rule.
"Fear is widespread that a new Taliban regime would mean "going backward." Analysts observe that the only results of this long war and its immense cost in human lives and money may be the better conditions for women, and democracy. Democracy is still weak, to such an extent that Karzai has delayed until August the elections scheduled for April, because of the difficult situation."
""The evolution of this country is in the hands of women. Under the Taliban, women could not even go to school, they were forced to stay home and endure forced marriages." LINK
AND
"The Taliban government that ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001 forced women to stay at home and banned them from appearing in public without a body-covering burqa. Much has improved since then: Millions of girls now attend school, and many women own businesses. Of 351 parliamentarians, 89 are women. On Saturday, a female lawmaker, Shalah Attah, said she will run for president in this year´s election, now set for August." LINK
Afghan women now only have to look across a nearby border to see strictly imposed Sharia Law in the Swat Valley - located in nothwestern Pakistan. This area was recently sacrificed by the Pakistani government in order to appease the militant Taliban -- in a "peace" agreement. Apparently past experience was discounted:
"This cease-fire smacks of a similar deal the previous government of Pervez Musharraf arranged in Pakistan´s tribal areas in 2006. That deal created a Taliban sanctuary and led to sharp increases in terrorist attacks, both in Afghanistan and the Pakistan heartland. Sufi Mohammed has signed three previous pacts with various Pakistani governments extending the writ of Islamic law. None mollified the extremists; each invited the next round of violent demands." LINK
Thus it should come as no surprise that the "peace" was swiftly broken:
"Yet no sooner was the deal signed than a Pakistani journalist was murdered while covering a "peace march" organized by Sufi Mohammed -- the 20th journalist killed around Swat in two years." LINK
There is currently little evidence that the Taliban, in Afghanistan, would be any different.
President Obama needs to think long and hard about any appeasement of the Taliban and any level of condoning Sharia Law - to do so would be giant leap backwards for the nation and particularly it´s brave women ----- ensuring that the piercing screams from burning muslim Afghan women - like Jan Bibi - will be deafening.
PS. this woman is ungrateful. she should take life as it is.
swiss people seemed to be far more tolerant than the eastern neighbours. but i understand them. if you ask me if i could be burried next to alameda. my answer is a BIG NO.
Quoting Melek74
Swiss uproar: Prostitute buried near John Calvin
By NATHALIE OGI, Associated Press Writer Nathalie Ogi, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 11 mins ago
GENEVA – A well-known prostitute who campaigned for the rights and dignity of sex workers was given an honored place of rest on Monday, in the same cemetery where Protestantism´s John Calvin is buried, and some women activists criticized the decision.
Griselidis Real, who died in 2005, was buried in the presence of 200 people at the Cemetery of the Kings, which is reserved for individuals that have profoundly marked Swiss or international history. Argentinian writer Jose Luis Borges and child psychologist Jean Piaget are among the luminaries interred there.
The body of Real, who was 76 when she died only 10 years after she is said to have given up prostitution, was exhumed from another cemetery in Geneva for the ceremony that some — particularly women — have called offensive.
"If every woman that had children to raise alone turned to prostitution, the city of Geneva would be a bordello," said Amelia Christinat, a feminist and former member of the Swiss parliament who opposed Real´s reburial.
PS. this woman is ungrateful. she should take life as it is.
Yeah no kidding. Some people just want to complain about their conditions. It´s in their nature.
But seriously, reading this kind of stuff makes me realize how profoundly fortunate I really am in my own life. As much as it makes my blood boil to read about the lives of those women, the truth is, I´m not actually living their lives, and that´s something I am thankful for. Any problems of mine seem frivolous by comparison.
Yeah no kidding. Some people just want to complain about their conditions. It´s in their nature.
But seriously, reading this kind of stuff makes me realize how profoundly fortunate I really am in my own life. As much as it makes my blood boil to read about the lives of those women, the truth is, I´m not actually living their lives, and that´s something I am thankful for. Any problems of mine seem frivolous by comparison.
This is something we all can agree on. I am always taken back by the plight of women whose only fault is to be born in some backward culture to an unkind family.
Children conceived by men over the age of 45 struggle in intelligence tests
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However, recent studies have linked paternal age with congenital problems such as neural tube defects and a range of medical disorders of later life, such as schizophrenia, dyslexia, bipolar disorder and autism...
Children conceived by men over the age of 45 struggle in intelligence tests
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However, recent studies have linked paternal age with congenital problems such as neural tube defects and a range of medical disorders of later life, such as schizophrenia, dyslexia, bipolar disorder and autism...
The Pearl Carpet of Baroda is expected to fetch $20m at an auction on March 19, 2009. The Pearl Carpet of Baroda was created using an estimated two million natural seed pearls and is embellished with gold set diamonds and precious stones in their hundreds. ..The Indian masterpiece was made for the Maharaja of Baroda, who is reputed to have commissioned it as a Gift for the Tomb of the Prophet Mohammad at Medina. ..
It is "the lagend" of rug world apperantly..
People have always talked about it but it is the first time they will be able to see it.
Polar bear Taotao enjoys one year birthday cake at Dalian Laohutan Ocean Park, in Dalian, northeast China´s Liaoning Province, Mar. 9, 2009. Artificial breeded Taotao who was born in the park on March 9th, 2008 has grown up from the beginning of 495 grams to 102 kilograms
The Indian masterpiece was made for the Maharaja of Baroda, who is reputed to have commissioned it as a Gift for the Tomb of the Prophet Mohammad at Medina. ..
Some people have strange ideas.......
Commission the world´s most expensive rug - just so they can put it in a tomb!!!
The Indian masterpiece was made for the Maharaja of Baroda, who is reputed to have commissioned it as a Gift for the Tomb of the Prophet Mohammad at Medina. ..
Some people have strange ideas.......
Commission the world´s most expensive rug - just so they can put it in a tomb!!!
caption says : According to male pantyhose supremo Harisnya , Mantyhose is now a popular male fashion accessory such as guyliner, manbags and manzieres ( bras for man boobs ) .
London based Harisnya says ´ Male pantyhose can be worn for health , sports and fashion .
His website , e-MANcipate.net , is packed with tips with one discussion topic named : ´ Is pink pantyhose too femmy for men ? ´ Harisnya said : ´ We estimate one in five men has worn some kind of pantyhose in his life and would try it again under right circumstance..
caption says : According to male pantyhose supremo Harisnya , Mantyhose is now a popular male fashion accessory such as guyliner, manbags and manzieres ( bras for man boobs ) .
London based Harisnya says ´ Male pantyhose can be worn for health , sports and fashion .
His website , e-MANcipate.net , is packed with tips with one discussion topic named : ´ Is pink pantyhose too femmy for men ? ´ Harisnya said : ´ We estimate one in five men has worn some kind of pantyhose in his life and would try it again under right circumstance..
mwahaha..... I knew I recognised you from somewhere
TURKEY: BOY ACCUSES PRIME MINISTER, SCRATCHED MY NECK
ANKARA, MARCH 13 - On an electoral visit to the city of Adana, in the southern region of the Aegean, the Turkish prime minister, Tayyip Erdogan, is thought to have grabbed the neck of young protestor, before leaving the unmistakable signs of deep finger nail scratches on his skin. The secular website ´Flash Haber´ reports the news, which is part of the same group as Flash TV, and which published a profile shot of the boy, aged 13, whose initials M.S.O. were used to keep his identity secret, and who appears in the picture with his eyes blacked out. On his neck, below a typical Turkish student hair-style, red signs of long and deep nail-scratches are evident. Last Monday Erdogan was on a visit to Adana for the electoral campaign for the administrative consultations on March 29 when, as his vehicle moved through the streets in a convoy, the young boy crossed police barriers and shouted towards him, "God will punish you in the next elections." "I was immediately stopped by the escorting officers," the young boy recounted, who brought me before him. The prime minister put one hand on my neck and, pushing me roughly, scratched me with his nails asking me: ´Why did you shout those things?´ I answered him, ´My father lost his job recently because of the economic crisis.´ Then he let me go." Flash Haber reports that the boy´s family has begun attempts to find a lawyer to charge the Prime Minister with mistreating a child: that is M.S.O.´s status in the secular laws of Turkey, even if, according to Islam, which is the at the basis of Erdogan´s AKP Justice and Development party, the boy should already be deemed to be a "father of a family" and therefore essentially a man.
On the morning of February 25, Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 from Istanbul crashed short of the runway at Amsterdam´s Schiphol Airport, killing nine passengers and crew.
On Wednesday, Dutch authorities released a preliminary report indicating that the crash was caused by mechanical failure, exacerbated by severe pilot error: The aircraft´s altimeter - which had malfunctioned twice in the past eight landings - was faulty, and the pilots failed to note this or respond appropriately. It has further been reported that a trainee pilot with less than 25 hours´ experience of flying this kind of plane was at the controls.
Spokesmen for Turkish Airlines, or THY (Turk Hava Yollari) as it is known locally, and European aviation experts have been quick to assure the public that the accident was an anomaly. Turkish Airlines´ standards of maintenance and training, they insist, are the equal of any major European airline.
Immediately after the accident, European Commission Vice President and Commissioner for Transport Antonio Tajani, who is Italian, declared that Turkish Airlines had always had good safety and security inspection results.
The investigation is not yet complete, and it is premature categorically to assign blame for it. But confident assertions that there is no cause to be concerned about the safety standards at Turkish Airlines are equally premature.
caption says : According to male pantyhose supremo Harisnya , Mantyhose is now a popular male fashion accessory such as guyliner, manbags and manzieres ( bras for man boobs ) .
London based Harisnya says ´ Male pantyhose can be worn for health , sports and fashion .
His website , e-MANcipate.net , is packed with tips with one discussion topic named : ´ Is pink pantyhose too femmy for men ? ´ Harisnya said : ´ We estimate one in five men has worn some kind of pantyhose in his life and would try it again under right circumstance..
Tights under a kilt? I thought there was nothing under a kilt?
offf. thats what he said. that it doesnt match his keelt.
shall i translate it into dutch for you? people, you are forshing me to speak moultiple languages. im gonna suffer if i dont boast about my linguistick skills
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[a few spelling skills had to be reviewd, thank you, trudy :D]
offf. thats what he said. that it doesnt match his kilt.
shall i translate it into dutch for you? people, you are forsing me to speak maultiple languages. im gonna suffer if i dont boast about my linguistic skills
I knew what he said, hun, but I wanted to be sure that the tale about kilts wasn´t a fairy tale....
And those skills...... You know editing is possible?
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[I know NOTHING about editing]
Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma
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Edited (3/14/2009) by TheAenigma
[My spelling is always perfect..]
And you are surprised ???Haven´t you thought that with your last clapping at Melek´s joke - mockery at him-you helped him somehow to pack...
No I don´t believe it was that at all "Adana" (or whatever your name is ) - I have defended Yilgun on many occasions, but that particular post was funny (and Porto´s mistake was funny too!). And..Yilgun himself said it was a joke.
Nice try though sweetie
(Maybe it was your salacious offtopic cobra chase post that offended him? )
what now? shall we cast lots and find who is to blame for yilgun´s departure?
oh, you poor victims and victimizers!
and what a mature and smart response...we say in Polish"uderz w stół a nozyce sie odezwą"do you need to be Aenigma´s lawyer?She can express herself,i guess..but of course you can´t restrain to butt in
I see that Yilgun has been breaking hearts, and is much missed in his abscence. I hope that he returns soon so that the catfight may revert back to the usual TLC style flirtation...
It is terrible to see you girls so lonely like this... pulling at each other´s hair follicles.
Yilgun, if you are reading this, come back dude...
and what a mature and smart response...we say in Polish"uderz w stół a nozyce sie odezwą"do you need to be Aenigma´s lawyer?She can express herself,i guess..but of course you can´t restrain to butt in
too shame nobody grieved over you when you left, ha? too pity nobody blamed me when kus-mus left tc!
I see that Yilgun has been breaking hearts, and is much missed in his abscence. I hope that he returns soon so that the catfight may revert back to the usual TLC style flirtation...
It is terrible to see you girls so lonely like this... pulling at each other´s hair follicles.
Yilgun, if you are reading this, come back dude...
They need you here...
maybe you should comfort your poor sweet adana baklava in turn now? you cant let down the turkish solidarity, can you?
Anybody who thinks that I need to take notes for Adana is mistaken
What a perfect post theh..I should be grateful despite our animosity ..anyway,I do not understand the general tendency here...why to hell all think we will make a perfect match..I do not like yeni turku and sleep with my blinds closed...
She is burning for you... Just grab her by the hair, and land the kiss of peace (while the blinds are open, of course.)
Quoting adana
What a perfect post theh..I should be grateful despite our animosity ..anyway,I do not understand the general tendency here...why to hell all think we will make a perfect match..I do not like yeni turkuand sleep with my blinds closed...You two are soulmates...
I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..And I do not think he humilitates me...
Ps>cynic..collect your toys and go home immediately!dinner is ready
I guess it is time for me to be a good boy, and finish my plate...
Quoting adana
I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..And I do not think he humilitates me...
Ps>cynic..collect your toys and go home immediately!dinner is ready
I like Cynic style of journalism,does it make me his fan?And his sense of humour if he does not go to certain level....of toilet paper..And I do not think he humilitates me...
Ps>cynic..collect your toys and go home immediately!dinner is ready
No I don´t believe it was that at all "Adana" (or whatever your name is ) - I have defended Yilgun on many occasions, but that particular post was funny (and Porto´s mistake was funny too!). And..Yilgun himself said it was a joke.
Nice try though sweetie
(Maybe it was your salacious offtopic cobra chase post that offended him? )
Yeah well, while you keep your promise, you better observe the guidelines of the board.
And before you act like a crybaby, you should refrain from swearing like a 15 year old schoolboy. I though you were an adult. Married, too. Would you like your son to behave the way you have been behaving tonight on a forum?
Shame on you man. You are emberrassing us Turks with your vulgarity...
Quoting thehandsom
Promise is promise..
I promised that I wont reply to certain individuals posts..And I am keeping my promise..
What a perfect post theh..I should be grateful despite our animosity ..anyway,I do not understand the general tendency here...why to hell all think we will make a perfect match..I do not like yeni turku and sleep with my blinds closed...
I dont think ´it is the general tendency´ actually..
Just only one person thinks we are a perfect match which we both know we are NOT..
With each bead, when you say ´patience´ in the end you say it 33 times and it is a magic number.. AND the rumor is that your patience comes back to you
With each bead, when you say ´patience´ in the end you say it 33 times and it is a magic number.. AND the rumor is that your patience comes back to you
I am about to open a new thread about ´importance of tesbihs and their reflections in our lives´ here..
Or may be , since I seem to be mastering about ´keeping promises´ and ´not losing the patience´, the topic might be ´ unbearable lightness -or ´annoyance´ for some- of keeping your promises´
I suggest you open another thread about the virtues of not using the word "shit" the way you used on forums...
That way, you would set a fine example to younger generations.
And, frankly, I could care less about the nature of that "promise" of yours, as long as you can shut that mouth of your and refrain from vulgarity in accordance with the board rules...
I am surprised you are still talking...
Quoting thehandsom
I am about to open a new thread about ´importance of tesbihs and their reflections in our lives´ here..
Or may be , since I seem to be mastering about ´keeping promises´ and ´not losing the patience´, the topic might be ´ unbearable lightness -or ´annoyance´ for some- of keeping your promises´
Learning how to stop a puppy from biting can be a major challenge for dog lovers. Puppy biting or nipping starts out as a bit of fun, but needs to be stopped quickly to avoid further problems. For most young puppies biting is a perfectly natural phase to go through, especially when they are teething.
Puppies love to sink their sharp little fangs into just about anything during this teething stage, including the hands and feet of their owners..
We shall all use the word "shit" freely, based on your confirmation. We shall refrain from "crap" though". That´s a no no... Same with other evil words, such as "idiotic" or "clownish", which have been the cause of many past ´deletes" carried out by your noble fingers...
And it´s a well known custom to be polite to waiters/waitresses in restaraunts here, for obvious reasons
be polite....be very polite......one poor customer after the third send back of his steak eventually exclaimed it was the most exquisite steak he had ever tasted.........man... did the chef nearly die laughing
999 nudes wanted for airline stunt... (It was the news on 9th of March appearantly)
It will be in central London on Sunday March 15 and adds: "You won’t be completely naked - you’ll be given something small to wear over your private parts."
The airline isn´t named but a link through to the websitehttp://www.999nudes.com/ quoted reveals those taking part will receive two free tickets to one of eight European destinations from Gatwick.
999 nudes wanted for airline stunt... (It was the news on 9th of March appearantly)
It will be in central London on Sunday March 15 and adds: "You won’t be completely naked - you’ll be given something small to wear over your private parts."
The airline isn´t named but a link through to the websitehttp://www.999nudes.com/ quoted reveals those taking part will receive two free tickets to one of eight European destinations from Gatwick.
My Name is (Stella Johnson) How are you and how is your work hope all is moving fine.i seek for honest partner and i meet you it was interesting and attractive then i drop by to know who this was, i will like to know more about you. if you wouldn´t mind you can email me at my mail. here (Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com)
i will be very glad to read your mail with all pleasure. it will be nice to meet you and also read from you. please do honor my invitation so that we can exchange our pictures and maybe become partner.
Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other.i wait to hear from you soon. kiss regards Miss Stella,
My Name is (Stella Johnson) How are you and how is your work hope all is moving fine.i seek for honest partner and i meet you it was interesting and attractive then i drop by to know who this was, i will like to know more about you. if you wouldn´t mind you can email me at my mail. here (Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com)
i will be very glad to read your mail with all pleasure. it will be nice to meet you and also read from you. please do honor my invitation so that we can exchange our pictures and maybe become partner.
Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other.i wait to hear from you soon. kiss regards Miss Stella,
(Stella_johnson82@yahoo.com
You are a little behind the 8 ball there porto........Lis and I had her first!!
My Name is (Stella Johnson) How are you and how is your work hope all is moving fine.i seek for honest partner and i meet you it was interesting and attractive then i drop by to know who this was, i will like to know more about you. if you wouldn´t mind you can email me at my mail. here
i will be very glad to read your mail with all pleasure. it will be nice to meet you and also read from you. please do honor my invitation so that we can exchange our pictures and maybe become partner.
Remember the distance does not matter what matters is the love we share with each other.i wait to hear from you soon. kiss regards Miss Stella,
You are one of several hundred by now!!! If everyone answers or adds her email then she will be a busy lady! (btw deleted her email address from the post)
By VICTOR L. SIMPSON, Associated Press Writer Victor L. Simpson, Associated Press Writer – 20 mins ago
ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE – Pope Benedict XVI said Tuesday that the distribution of condoms is not the answer in the fight against AIDS in Africa.
Benedict has never before spoken explicitly on condom use although he has stressed that the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of the battle against AIDS.(Oh yeah?) The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease. (Brilliant idea! )
"You can´t resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon. "On the contrary, it increases the problem."
Some priests and nuns working with victims of the AIDS pandemic ravaging Africa question the church´s opposition to condoms.
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He said that while the church does not propose specific economic solutions, it can give "spiritual and moral" suggestions. (Gee, thanks Benny )
Describing the current crisis as the consequence of "a deficit of ethics in economic structures," the pope said, "It is here that the church can make a contribution." (Again Benny, your generosity is overwhelming!)
this bunch of old vatican monks should be given an opportunity to live in africa.
Quoting Melek74
Pope: condoms not the answer in AIDS fight
By VICTOR L. SIMPSON, Associated Press Writer Victor L. Simpson, Associated Press Writer – 20 mins ago
ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE – Pope Benedict XVI said Tuesday that the distribution of condoms is not the answer in the fight against AIDS in Africa.
Benedict has never before spoken explicitly on condom use although he has stressed that the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of the battle against AIDS.(Oh yeah?) The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease. (Brilliant idea! )
"You can´t resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon. "On the contrary, it increases the problem."
Some priests and nuns working with victims of the AIDS pandemic ravaging Africa question the church´s opposition to condoms.
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He said that while the church does not propose specific economic solutions, it can give "spiritual and moral" suggestions. (Gee, thanks Benny )
Describing the current crisis as the consequence of "a deficit of ethics in economic structures," the pope said, "It is here that the church can make a contribution." (Again Benny, your generosity is overwhelming!)
You are one of several hundred by now!!! If everyone answers or adds her email then she will be a busy lady! (btw deleted her email address from the post)
Well, yes.
Seems we all share Stella.
She might get busy... but still, it looks like she wants to get busy, isn´t it?
Perhaps she will work out a schedule for her harem....like Handsom did!
Hmm... we could start an email chain, like if you send this Turkey advertising to 20 different persons from your mail list, you might win a free Turkey holiday for two in Antalya. And to have that, make sure you put Stellamail in carboncopy...
DAMASCUS, MARCH 16 - A Syrian writer and human rights activist, who has been in prison several times for publicly asking for political reforms in the country that has been ruled by the Baath regime for forty years, was sentenced to three years in prison today. According to Syrian human rights organisation ONDUS, Habib Saleh (62 years old) was sentenced today to three years in prison by the criminal court of Damascus under charges of "spreading false information to weaken national sentiment and to reawaken confessional dissent". "Many European and Western diplomats, as well as activists in the community, were present this morning when the verdict was read", an ONDUS note explains. Saleh, who was arrested six times between 1982 and May 2008, was arrested almost a year ago by government security services after publishing an article on internet in which he asked for political reforms. Since the accession in the summer of 2000 of President Bashar al-Assad, son of the deceased Hafiz al-Asad, tens of civilians and human rights activists have been imprisoned for "spreading false information to weaken national sentiment".
Who said I am scared of mods "khazaki"? I just don´t happen to suck up to them like you do, and tell certain ones exactly what they are in terms of being icons of "double-standard"...
And, among us two, you are right, I do happen to speak the saxon tongue better than you ever will with that thick accent of yours...
Since you brought up the topic of learning, maybe it is about time you learned some good manners, while I learn how to spell... Ok, Khazaki???
Quoting femmeous
why are you so scared of admins deleting your posts? this one is quite innocent.
btw, i can tease evil amrikans as much as i want.
learn to spell, you seemed to be perfect in English, mr teacher, its "Kazakhs" not kazakhis.
Who said I am scared of mods "khazaki"? I just don´t happen to suck up to them like you do, and tell certain ones exactly what they are in terms of being icons of "double-standard"...
And, among us two, you are right, I do happen to speak the saxon tongue better than you ever will with that thick accent of yours...
Since you brought up the topic of learning, maybe it is about time you learned some good manners, while I learn how to spell... Ok, Khazaki???
And I suggest you shouldn´t forget about that special diet you embarked on Monday...
Make sure it doesn´t end in a feeding frenzy like it always does by Friday lunch time... There is still hope, remember... I wish there was a pill you could take to switch back from the ton scale to the milligram one... maybe one day, who knows...
Quoting Trudy
It is you seeing tuna fish. Probably there is medication for that as well. Don´t forget to take all your pills lovely, you´re getting delusional.
The founder of the One Taste Urban Retreat Center, Nicole Daedone, sees herself as leading “the slow-sex movement,” one that places a near-exclusive emphasis on women’s pleasure — in which love, romance and even flirtation are not required.
"In our culture, admitting our bodies matter is almost an admission of failure," said Ms. Daedone, 41, who can quote the poet Mary Oliver and speak wryly on the intricacies of women’s anatomy with equal aplomb. "I don’t think women will really experience freedom until they own their sexuality." (I agree with this 99% btw)
At 7 a.m. each day, as the rest of America is eating Cheerios or trying to face gridlock without hyperventilating, about a dozen women, naked from the waist down, lie with eyes closed in a velvet-curtained room, while clothed men huddle over them, stroking them in a ritual known as orgasmic meditation OMing, for short. The couples, who may or may not be romantically involved, call one another "research partners."
Dude, for the first time, you made me laugh with your post. I agree. Good post... really... How do you come across this sort of stuff
Quoting thehandsom
Slow Sex Urban Retreat Centre
The founder of the One Taste Urban Retreat Center, Nicole Daedone, sees herself as leading “the slow-sex movement,” one that places a near-exclusive emphasis on women’s pleasure — in which love, romance and even flirtation are not required.
"In our culture, admitting our bodies matter is almost an admission of failure," said Ms. Daedone, 41, who can quote the poet Mary Oliver and speak wryly on the intricacies of women’s anatomy with equal aplomb. "I don’t think women will really experience freedom until they own their sexuality." (I agree with this 99% btw)
At 7 a.m. each day, as the rest of America is eating Cheerios or trying to face gridlock without hyperventilating, about a dozen women, naked from the waist down, lie with eyes closed in a velvet-curtained room, while clothed men huddle over them, stroking them in a ritual known as orgasmic meditation OMing, for short. The couples, who may or may not be romantically involved, call one another "research partners."
Dudette, who cares if you agree whether I agree? It is a public forum, and within the rules of this board, I can agree, or disagree without your miserable attempt at harrasment.
Go bark up another tree. You are barking up the wrong tree as usual...
And don´t let your personal vendetta blind you either, while making sure that the door doesn´t slam on your kitty buttom on the way out...
Very contributional post btw... Your kitty medallion is on its way. Once you get it, you can wear it together with your name tag...
Dudette, who cares if you agree whether I agree? It is a public forum, and within the rules of this board, I can agree, or disagree without your miserable attempt at harrasment.
Go bark up another tree. You are barking up the wrong tree as usual...
And don´t let your personal vendetta blind you either, while making sure that the door doesn´t slam on your kitty buttom on the way out...
Very contributional post btw... Your kitty medallion is on its way. Once you get it, you can wear it together with your name tag...
Kitty kat...
all this vandetta applies equally to your post above... and you speak of double standards?
I don´t see how there is any vendetta at all kitty. I actually liked hansom´s post and commented on it, until you showed up with your own personal vendetta...
Plus, who could ever beat the Queen of Double Standard?
That´s you btw...
Quoting catwoman
all this vandetta applies equally to your post above... and you speak of double standards?
The founder of the One Taste Urban Retreat Center, Nicole Daedone, sees herself as leading “the slow-sex movement,” one that places a near-exclusive emphasis on women’s pleasure — in which love, romance and even flirtation are not required.
"In our culture, admitting our bodies matter is almost an admission of failure," said Ms. Daedone, 41, who can quote the poet Mary Oliver and speak wryly on the intricacies of women’s anatomy with equal aplomb. "I don’t think women will really experience freedom until they own their sexuality." (I agree with this 99% btw)
At 7 a.m. each day, as the rest of America is eating Cheerios or trying to face gridlock without hyperventilating, about a dozen women, naked from the waist down, lie with eyes closed in a velvet-curtained room, while clothed men huddle over them, stroking them in a ritual known as orgasmic meditation OMing, for short. The couples, who may or may not be romantically involved, call one another "research partners."
The thought of this makes my skin crawl!! Is this really the way for women to experience freedom until they own their sexuality??
I can never understand why some women have such a problem with sex...............
I actually agree with you libra.....I thought that the oming sounded very degrading. Why would you have to be in a room full of half naked women and participate such a bizzare ceremony to experience sexual freedom?
MULTAN, Pakistan - A Pakistani gang-rape victim who shunned custom and rose to global fame by speaking out about her case has defied another local taboo — she just got married.
Mukhtar Mai is now the second wife of Nasir Abbas Gabol, a police officer who was assigned to protect her as her case gained notoriety. He said she was reluctant to accept his offer and that he threatened suicide when she turned him down.
Mai was gang raped at the order of a tribal council in the eastern province of Punjab in 2002 to punish her family for her brother´s alleged affair with a woman from a higher-caste family. There were also allegations that the boy had been molested by members of the other family, and that the accusations of the affair were used to cover up the crime.
shes 2 times lucky. first, talibs possibly havent heard of her. second, she was offered a marriage. most of raped girls, women simply commit suicide or got killed with the help of the family.
when i hear such things i doubt i live in XXI century.
Quoting Elisabeth
MULTAN, Pakistan - A Pakistani gang-rape victim who shunned custom and rose to global fame by speaking out about her case has defied another local taboo — she just got married.
Mukhtar Mai is now the second wife of Nasir Abbas Gabol, a police officer who was assigned to protect her as her case gained notoriety. He said she was reluctant to accept his offer and that he threatened suicide when she turned him down.
Mai was gang raped at the order of a tribal council in the eastern province of Punjab in 2002 to punish her family for her brother´s alleged affair with a woman from a higher-caste family. There were also allegations that the boy had been molested by members of the other family, and that the accusations of the affair were used to cover up the crime.
you think you are capable to keep it in his style?
We don´t need to, because he´s been killed off and the story could continue with the dudu killer telling it! after all it is now the never ending story.................
you think you are capable to keep it in his style?
We don´t need to be, because he´s been killed off and the story could continue with the dudu killer telling it! after all it is now the never ending story.................
aha sounds fantastic long live the queen of iceland!
Robo-croc´ - the 10ft long reptile with four metal plates and 41 screws in its head. The 250lb crocodile was patched up with steel work after being hit by a car in the Florida Keys.
Melek is nice and very helpful really, and cynic also was helpful -when he is in the mood i may add- and has many informative, and lengthy posts were/are good readings.
Melek is nice and very helpful really, and cynic also was helpful -when he is in the mood i may add- and has many informative, and lengthy posts were/are good readings.
Canli, I hate to say this but you must have been wearing rose tinted glasses..............
now Yilgin going was more of a loss, a young enthusiastic young man who never had a bad word to say (but just bored people with his few lists)
Canli, I hate to say this but you must have been wearing rose tinted glasses..............
now Yilgin going was more of a loss, a young enthusiastic young man who never had a bad word to say (but just bored people with his few lists)
Well LL, i dont, and didnt agree with many of cynics´ posts, and style, but still, the man was very much helpful at the language forum, me and many others i may add have/had benefits from the information he has explained and shared
Also he has many informative posts including also his column, so i cant say i didnt get a benefit from all of this.
Ãts his right to state such.
Ãts a loss that things didnt go as they should back to norm
Well LL, i dont, and didnt agree with many of cynics´ posts, and style, but still, the man was very much helpful at the language forum, me and many others i may add have/had benefits from the information he has explained and shared
Also he has many informative posts including also his column, so i cant say i didnt get a benefit from all of this.
Ãts his right to state such.
Ãts a loss that things didnt go as they should back to norm
I agree with Canlý...it is a great loss for us here....at least those who are interested in diverse ideas and opinions. We have lost some good Turkish thinkers who are able to articulate their ideas. I think of vineyards and miss his input here.
Actually it looked more to me like he was the one being harassed.
He was one of the most literate people who have taken the time to post here. He offered well thought out and informed opinion. I was reading some of his older posts. In particular message # 33 in this thread... It was probably too deep and verbose for many here to read. They prefer a few cute words to a well thought out essay on the matter. If you actually read his analysis, and the subsequent comments, it´s obvious not many actually took time to read what he had to say.
"I am neither sure from which country the individual who posted this article is nor do I particularly care about it. Unlike you, however, I will show the courtesy of sharing with others my background, which is Turkish. Had you done the same, we would know where you are from, as well.
Copy-pasting a rather "biased" article to start a "charged" topic without any of your own input or thoughts clearly shows that unless someone else puts it into writing, you do not seem to be able to do it for yourself. As a result, instead of responding to your own thoughts, the readers of your pathetic thread are forced to respond to an "article". Well, we might as well send a carbon copy of our replies to the publishing newspaper as well, wouldn´t you say?
Since my reply is actually to an article, I hope you won´t take what I say personally, and be offended.
Let´s start with an analysis of the bombastic lingo in this article...
".............. These European-looking Turks are also quite militarist and nationalist according to Western standards."
What the hell are we supposed to understand from an idiotic statement like this? The look that has been falsely labelled as "European" is actually "Caucasian", which is surely not in the monopoly of Europeans exclusively. The Caucasian look belongs to Eurasia, and the Caucauses, the origin of the term itself, is ironically closer to Turkey than to any Western Europen country. If the European look is referring to the un-Islamic & fashionable outfits in Turkey, then, it must be said that there are more mullahs in London & Paris these days than there are in Turkey.
Another important issue is the criteria for the so-called "western standards" in regards to being "militaristic nationalists". Believe me that there are no such standards, and any bombastic author that makes such references in his writing is surely talking out of his ass. On a different tune, Europeans aren´t impressing anyone in the world with their "European standards" anymore anyways. Those days have been over for quite a while.
Regarding the issue of indoctrination at Turkish schools, I am surprised by how one-sided his view is. Every country in the world that has an education system & a national identity indoctrinates their young ones. Yes, the level and intensity of indoctrination varies from country to country, but nevertheless, every country, even the "civilized" Western countries, indoctrinate their children in one form or the other. If the writer of the article, and the other clowns on this forum, who seem to support his views, are claiming that the situation in Turkey is exceptional, and much worse, then I would have to disagree with that.
As someone who had to go through the ritual of "swearing alliance & oath" in the mornings, on the contrary to the writer´s claims, I didn´t turn out to be a "militaristic Kemalist" bent on supressing other minorities and imposing Kemalist values. In fact, I dislike Kemalists, Nationalists, Patriots, Separatists, Pan-Turkists etc as much as I hate bible-thumping Evangelists, Zionists, Mullahs, and other war-mongering parasites.
For me, the ritual was actually of significant importance, not because it instilled in me a solid sense of "Turkishness & Kemalist values", but simply because it was the only opportunity during the week where all the students gathered in the courtyard. Hormones raging at that age, it was more of a social event where the guys would check out the girls stroll down the stairs, glimpsing at their legs, as each class congregated for the ceremony. As shameless as this may sound, it was a great opportunity to check out the girls that you had a crush on, while winking at the girls, who had a crush on you. Aside from checking out the legs, other very important social activities, such as the exchange of weekend gossip, plans for a soccer game with the rival class during lunch break etc would be discussed.
I never felt like being indoctrinated because, like many of my friends, I never took it seriously, or literally. In fact, had they just bothered to ask, I would have surely preferred to stay in the courtyard all day reciting the oath of alliance than go to classroom. Children in the USA, UK, Germany etc go through severe forms of indoctrination, not only at school, but outside as well through TV and religious activities. Not every corner of North America is as liberal & democratic as New York or LA. I find Americans to be extremely indoctrinated, for example. More so than Turks in fact. The same could be said for the English as well. Writing an article about how children are being brainwashed because of the morning oath is nothing but a cheap shot without much aim.
Let´s quote another bombastic statement:
"The education system, which constantly praises the “Turkish existence,” curiously says nothing about the existence of other ethnic identities in Turkey."
The education system doesn´t have to say jack about the existence of other ethnicities simply because it is obvious and right there in front of you each time you go for a walk or watch TV. The author would be surprised how many Turks are actually very well aware of the mixed heritage of their homeland and its people in comparison to some of their European & North American counterparts. We all notice the ethnic diversity as well as the non-ethnic diversity.
When I was a little kid, my family lived in the old Armenian quarters of Istanbul, where there was still a significant number of Armenians, who had stayed after WWI. Our right door neighbour was Armenian, and regularly, I would spend evenings at their home playing with their children, if my parents were working late. In the same way, my parents would do the same when they were out. Not only were we aware of each other´s existence, but we interacted with each other as well. From a really young age, I also noticed that a lot of construction workers in Istanbul spoke a language that I couldn´t understand. It didn´t take long to figure out that it was Kurdish. Later on, I also noticed that a lot of the these workers were hired by wealthier Kurdish contractors, who had prospered in Western Turkey, and discriminated and looked down on these workers, as much as their Turkish upper-class Istanbulite friends. Again, later on, I also learned that not all Kurdish dialects spoken in Turkey are mutually intelligable. Zaza, for example, a Kurdish group in Turkey, cannot understand the Kurdish dialect of Kurmanchi, which is spoken by a much larger group of Kurds that live in Turkey, Iran & Iraq. On a trip to the Black Sea region, I couldn´t help giggling at the way the locals talked. How there were non-Turkish dialects of Georgian origin still spoken in pockets of remote villages by the elders, or how the Laz originally came from Georgia and mixed with Pontic Greeks of Trebizond were right there in front of you. When we travelled to the Aegean region, the Greco/Anatolian ethnic elements were also visible. The point I am trying to make is that dramatic examples, such as incishka´s about how a Kurdish student whispered to her/his ear, or the ones expressed in the article are not only inaccurate observations, but are also generalizations.
Yes, there is discrimination & suppression in Turkey in one form or the other just like everywhere else in the world. However, this discrimination is not exactly or predominantly ethnic. It is a lot more complicated than that. For example, wealthier Turks, usually of Istanbul, discriminate against the so-called "kro" Turks of the eastern provinces. They make fun of the way they talk, call them "peasents", and the very word "kro", which is a derivateive of the name of the Kurdish dialect, Kurmanchi, applies equally to anyone, whether Turkish or Kurdish, that doesn´t meet superficial Istanbulite standards.
Among the so-called "peasents of the east", there is uniform resentment against the spoiled, and snobby city-dwellers & the plasticity of their culture. The pan-Turkists, who suffer from a minor case of delusion, want a unified Turkic empire across central Asia. They usually beat up innocent people, who fail to make the "Ulkucu" wolf sign with their hands during their traffic blockdes. The religious fundamentalist pundits come in all shapes and ethnicities ready to massacre all others, too, once given the opportunity. The lower-middle class is always ready to be duped by propaganda and flock out to the streets to protest this or that. Ethnicity hardly ever plays a role in most cases.
The wealthier western Kurds discrminate against other eastern Kurds that are part of the ashiret clan system. The ashiret leaders literally exert authority over thousands of their clan members through their own interpretation of their "tore". It is literally brutal. The political bears of Ankara prize themselves the most in bogus forms of Kemalism, thinking that they are the only ones in the whole country preoccupied with maintaining the unity of our homeland against all outside powers bent on demolishing us, the Republic of Turkey!!!
For many of these multi-ethnical & political posers, if they don´t see a framed picture of Ataturk in your office, you are immediately labelled as a parasite to the Kemalist cause.
To keep this brief, the point is rather simple. The truth is that the people, who live in Turkey, regardless of their ethnic origins, are very gullible, and yet not so naive. It is easy to play with their emotions, and manipulate their thoughts, but they are absolutely not products of an educational system that has "brainwashed" them. This observation in the article is wrong.
People who live in Turkey are very well aware of the progress Turkey has made as well as its shortcomings. Nobody of any ethnic background is blind or dumb. On the contrary to the article, we aren´t all brainwashed, at least not significantly more than our counterparts in other countries.
Thanks to bombastic news in the media, there is always a way to find a suitable victim to instigate a national paranoia in Turkey - particularly against Greece & Armenia, if not the PKK. You can always pump up the patriotic bravada with bogus media stories about a Greek invasion of a worthless set of islands, or the Armenian diaspora trying to discredit Turks abroad. Barzani was the latest one. It is unbelievable how easy it is to turn masses of normally ordinary people into flag-burning fanatics.
It is also ironic that the very same people not only burn the flags of the perceived-threat countries, but also burn the flags of foreign soccer teams after losing at the European Cup (always due to the ref). Even domestic teams may suffer being burned by the local fanatics. There is always a good reason to protest in Turkey, and ethnic difference is not at the top of the list.
I actually see a bigger problem in Turkish education system than the oath of alliance. Over the years, a significant number of rather annoying members of the English-speaking world have relocated to Turkey as ESL teachers at private schools. These backpacker-turned-ESL-instructors, who are often not qualified to teach ESL in their own contries, are very much welcomed by Turkish people, and are often admired a lot more than they actually deserve. Such foreigners often find out that they are paid quite well in Turkey, and can actually live a lot better in Istanbul (or Izmir & Ankara) than they ever could in their own countries with their intellectual capacities. It is often a matter of months before they find a Turkish girlfriend or boyfriend, get married and settle down. Once this happens, these backpacker-philosophers develop ideas about the problems of Turkey. They share their annoying & often ignorant views generously at dinner parties that they have been invited to by the parents of their private students, who pay them quite a bit of money to tutor their children. So, the side benefits are obvious. And, they gibber & gibber.
They tell us how there are violations of human rights, police brutality, the suppression of Kurds, domestic violence against women, corruption, Turkish mullahs, what Turkey needs to do to join the EU etc etc etc etc. They have a freaking idea about everything, and believe me when I tell you that they annoy the hell out of almost every other "educated" Turk that I know. To these ignorant clowns, the only reason why we, the "more educated Turks" may appear as "close-minded militaristic patriots" is perhaps because that is the image we portray on purpose. Along the same lines, when similar individuals post topics on message boards to psyche people up, we tend to write lengthy replies.
Melek is nice and very helpful really, and cynic also was helpful -when he is in the mood i may add- and has many informative, and lengthy posts were/are good readings.
Quoting alameda
I agree with Canlý...it is a great loss for us here....at least those who are interested in diverse ideas and opinions.
This only goes to prove my point that objections are not about what is said, but WHO is saying it. Both Alameda and Canli are the biggest objectors to "insults" and yet when the insults come from a different direction (maybe towards those who they object to) then they find it perfectly acceptable.
It works exactly the same way in the other direction too - with other mods finding posts acceptable if they are posted by "allies".
The interesting thing is that I am frequently called a hypocrite for one moment agreeing with a person and then the next, disagreeing - how DARE I suddenly agree with Canli on a post, or Libralady or Alameda?!!! Perhaps that is because I respond to the POST not the person? I am no angel, but you people sure do take the biscuit
A couple of things to say here - firstly Alameda why did you find it necessary to copy cynic´s post in it´s entirety when you had given us the link?
Secondly - informative and helpful as cynic may have been on the one hand, he was also crude and rude in the extreme on the other and in addition caused quite a bit of disruption and upset across the site that wasn´t seen in the forums. He has also ´allegedly´ previously been banned from at least two other internet sites - so being deleted from TC probably won´t have come as too much of a shock for him.
A couple of things to say here - firstly Alameda why did you find it necessary to copy cynic´s post in it´s entirety when you had given us the link?
Secondly - informative and helpful as cynic may have been on the one hand, he was also crude and rude in the extreme on the other and in addition caused quite a bit of disruption and upset across the site that wasn´t seen in the forums. He has also ´allegedly´ previously been banned from at least two other internet sites - so being deleted from TC probably won´t have come as too much of a shock for him.
....because the link only took you to the page where a page of messages were, not a specific post. I put the whole post here because it was a very good well thought out post that I thought warranted reading. It was the result of original thought, not a cut and paste job.
Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.
I really don´t think you, or many of the Europeans who moderate here have a very good understanding of "Eastern" mentality. In fact, it´s interesting to see all the mods, with the exeption of the language forum, are female, and with the exception of Canli European. Why is that? With all the talk of liberation and equality, where are the male moderators? What happened to vineyards, keithl?
He was generous with his time in the Turkish Classes section and went way above and beyond in that area.
....because the link only took you to the page where a page of messages were, not a specific post. I put the whole post here because it was a very good well thought out post that I thought warranted reading. It was the result of original thought, not a cut and paste job.
Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.
I really don´t think you, or many of the Europeans who moderate here have a very good understanding of "Eastern" mentality. In fact, it´s interesting to see all the mods, with the exeption of the language forum, are female, and with the exception of Canli European. Why is that? With all the talk of liberation and equality, where are the male moderators? What happened to vineyards, keithl?
He was generous with his time in the Turkish Classes section and went way above and beyond in that area.
I think most people would be capable of working out which post your link referred to.
I haven´t noticed other people who feel provoked on the site deliberately stirring up trouble between members behind the scenes.
I am not sure that most educated big-city Turks (which covers most of the frequent posters on the site I think) do have exactly the same mentality as other ´Easterners´ - and neither do most of the Turks I have met here. And how do we know that Cynic wasn´t from Thrace? - wouldn´t that make him a European?
As for Vineyards and Keith - I can´t remember exactly why Keith left but Vineyards was twice made a moderator and left after disagreement both times. I believe he was even asked to be an admin but turned it down. You will notice that Sui Generis is actually a mod in several of the forums - and he is a Turkish man.
hello how are you my name h**** from turkey me 33 years older singel male never been marrýed l realy lýke your picture so much l realy want meet wýth you pls add me ýf you want meet wýth me ******@hotmail.com
I assume I´m the only one who received this ´love letter´? Eh?
hello how are you my name h**** from turkey me 33 years older singel male never been marrýed l realy lýke your picture so much l realy want meet wýth you pls add me ýf you want meet wýth me ******@hotmail.com
I assume I´m the only one who received this ´love letter´? Eh?
Sorry to dissappoint but I have the same one twice - I just reminded him of that!
If he had said he was very rich and hairy then I might have added him........... but as it stands .......
To these ignorant clowns, the only reason why we, the "more educated Turks" may appear as "close-minded militaristic patriots" is perhaps because that is the image we portray on purpose.
Well I never got one - maybe I should change my nick to lady in black stockings and suspender belt! (I have had 3 from amorfati today though - that must count for something
This only goes to prove my point that objections are not about what is said, but WHO is saying it. Both Alameda and Canli are the biggest objectors to "insults" and yet when the insults come from a different direction (maybe towards those who they object to) then they find it perfectly acceptable.
It works exactly the same way in the other direction too - with other mods finding posts acceptable if they are posted by "allies".
The interesting thing is that I am frequently called a hypocrite for one moment agreeing with a person and then the next, disagreeing - how DARE I suddenly agree with Canli on a post, or Libralady or Alameda?!!! Perhaps that is because I respond to the POST not the person? I am no angel, but you people sure do take the biscuit
Well there is a difference between provokateurs and those who respond. Once provoked, all bets are off. I´m reminded of the picadores and the banderilleros, but at least the matador doesn´t act surprised when he gets gored by the bull.
You may not agree with my ideas, that is your right. When it becomes personal, it is quite a different matter.
Well there is a difference between provokateurs and those who respond. Once provoked, all bets are off. I´m reminded of the picadores and the banderilleros, but at least the matador doesn´t act surprised when he gets gored by the bull.
You may not agree with my ideas, that is your right. When it becomes personal, it is quite a different matter.
If you pardon my saying so, your posts are extremely provocative...
(Thank you for the extremely pointless link to "matador" !!! )
The Terrafugia Transition drove down the runway and the world´s ´ first flying car ´ made its debut as it took off and flew through the skies, before landing safely at the New York State airstrip , paving the way for personal flight transport ..... suddenly in control of a two seater four wheel car , which can drive at highway speeds and be stored in your typical garage . Other flying cars have been demonstrated before, but this is the first proven model with foldable wings which allows it to seamlessly transfer from air to road . Meanwhile refueling involves no more than driving into the nearest forecourt and filling up with unleaded petrol .
The Terrafugia Transition drove down the runway and the world´s ´ first flying car ´ made its debut as it took off and flew through the skies, before landing safely at the New York State airstrip , paving the way for personal flight transport ..... suddenly in control of a two seater four wheel car , which can drive at highway speeds and be stored in your typical garage . Other flying cars have been demonstrated before, but this is the first proven model with foldable wings which allows it to seamlessly transfer from air to road . Meanwhile refueling involves no more than driving into the nearest forecourt and filling up with unleaded petrol .
Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.
Well apparently you weren’t really paying attention alameda or you only see what you WANT to see.
Within cynic’s first couple of posts he started in with his “helpful” comments. If you want to turn a blind eye or pretend that he only lashed out in self-defense go ahead and make yourself look like a fool. It is open for everyone to see what the facts are.
Yes, I watched his frustration grow and the tenor of his posts change. As for disruption and upset across the site.....when people are provoked they react in different ways.
Oh please! Cynic was no victim, he was big enough to express his opinion, like the rest of us. It is strange that people who you agree with are "provoked" but people you disagree with are considered "provocateurs". Don´t you think that most people here are provoked into posting?
In addition, generally, why do you consider that disagreements necessitate anomosity? I may get really angry at one post by someone, but can agree with that same person on another thread! You are so clannish Alameda, you make me laugh, there is nothing you like more than to apportion blame to people who criticise your posts - usually in the form of accusing them of forcing others to leave! Azymuth is a great example! I have read the posts to her and, frankly, if she was offended enough to leave because of some mild teasing, then she should not be on a discussion site.
Axel Hotels, the first hotel chain in the world aimed at the gay community, opens its latest hotel in Berlin. Situated in Schoneberg, the heart of the gay community of the city, ... equipped with king size beds, plasma TVs, iPod On Stage speakers, safes, .... an open air spa, sauna, Turkish bath, gymnasium, relaxation area and massage cubicles.
Axel Hotel Berlin is the third of the chain´s hotels catering to the gay community following the Axel Hotel Barcelona and Axel Hotel Buenos Aires, which opened in 2003 and 2007 respectively.
Axel Hotels, the first hotel chain in the world aimed at the gay community, opens its latest hotel in Berlin. Situated in Schoneberg, the heart of the gay community of the city, ... equipped with king size beds, plasma TVs, iPod On Stage speakers, safes, .... an open air spa, sauna, Turkish bath, gymnasium, relaxation area and massage cubicles.
Axel Hotel Berlin is the third of the chain´s hotels catering to the gay community following the Axel Hotel Barcelona and Axel Hotel Buenos Aires, which opened in 2003 and 2007 respectively.
Axel Hotels, the first hotel chain in the world aimed at the gay community, opens its latest hotel in Berlin. Situated in Schoneberg, the heart of the gay community of the city, ... equipped with king size beds, plasma TVs, iPod On Stage speakers, safes, .... an open air spa, sauna, Turkish bath, gymnasium, relaxation area and massage cubicles.
Axel Hotel Berlin is the third of the chain´s hotels catering to the gay community following the Axel Hotel Barcelona and Axel Hotel Buenos Aires, which opened in 2003 and 2007 respectively.
I guess I have ruined you for all other women??????
British truckers ´being attacked by knife-wielding migrants desperate to get to Britain´
Truck drivers say they are being regularly attacked by migrants who are trying desperately to get into Britain from France.
Dozens of hauliers claim they have been assaulted by the migrants – many armed with knives and batons – who react violently when they are discovered hiding in trucks bound for the UK.
The British drivers are now calling on ministers to put pressure on the French government to take tougher action against those who are targeting them, sometimes on a nightly basis.
a message for libra, its regarding her somalian friends.
Source: ´Several´ Missing Somali-Americans Back in U.S. After Overseas Terror Mission
"Some of the guys who were missing aren´t missing anymore," the source said. "Some of them got blown up and some of them came back, and some of them are still there [in Somalia]."
For several months the FBI has been investigating at least 20 Somali-American men from the Minneapolis area who traveled to war-torn Somalia, where some of them trained and fought with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group known as al-Shabaab, according to counterterrorism officials.
Asked to characterize how many of those men are now back on American soil, the source would only say that "several" have returned. Federal authorities believe the men went to Somalia to join al-Shabaab, which has been warring with the moderate Somali government since 2006.
Usama bin Laden weighed in Thursday on the battle. In an audiotape posted online, the Al Qaeda leader urged Somalis to fight against the Somali government, insisting, "The war which has been taking place on your soil these past years is a war between Islam and the international crusade."
You are so clannish Alameda, you make me laugh, there is nothing you like more than to apportion blame to people who criticise your posts - usually in the form of accusing them of forcing others to leave! Azymuth is a great example! I have read the posts to her and, frankly, if she was offended enough to leave because of some mild teasing, then she should not be on a discussion site.
Hmmmmmmmm and didn´t she once blame you for another member leaving and then it turned out SHE was the reason the person left?
Oh please! Cynic was no victim, he was big enough to express his opinion, like the rest of us. It is strange that people who you agree with are "provoked" but people you disagree with are considered "provocateurs". Don´t you think that most people here are provoked into posting?
In addition, generally, why do you consider that disagreements necessitate anomosity? I may get really angry at one post by someone, but can agree with that same person on another thread! You are so clannish Alameda, you make me laugh, there is nothing you like more than to apportion blame to people who criticise your posts - usually in the form of accusing them of forcing others to leave! Azymuth is a great example! I have read the posts to her and, frankly, if she was offended enough to leave because of some mild teasing, then she should not be on a discussion site.
Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here. If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.
As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.
This only goes to prove my point that objections are not about what is said, but WHO is saying it. Both Alameda and Canli are the biggest objectors to "insults" and yet when the insults come from a different direction (maybe towards those who they object to) then they find it perfectly acceptable.
Actually AE, that is not the case at all, seems you didnt get what i mean
Ãf you went through my post here and other posts before regarding cynic´s insulting posts, you would find i havent agreed with them too.
But im also against the idea that the bads erase the goods.
And i believe it is his right to take the credit for that.
His posts in the language forum are there and people still get benefit from them.
They are useful to learners, so that was a loss to us .
His posts in political forum were also informative and strike some point that i wasnt paying attention to.
So i cant just skip an eye on all this as if they are not there.
Ãt isnt fair.
Yes many of his posts caused disruption and also were flammable, crude and this everyone already know and said it
But he also has informative posts and was helpful to others in language/translation forums and that what i am adding.
Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here. If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.
As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.
you should stop accusing people for ganging up. i personally dont feel being a gang member, not that i would be ashamed of it, but what you claim here is absolutely not true.
i dont gang up with anyone.
everyone here has a different personality and identity and feel perfectly at ease with themselves.
but you alameda an exception of being yourself. you deny everything. you deny you are a female, you deny you are old, you deny you are a muslim etc etc. is it sort of a taqyia coded in your mind?
also stop accusing people (whom you dislike) of writing stupid or disruptive posts. look at yourself first.
if you dont like such posts then simply dont read them. i know a few people here who say that they dont read the posts of certain people. thus they handle their membership here.
............but you alameda an exception of being yourself. you deny everything. you deny you are a female, you deny you are old, you deny you are a muslim etc etc. is it sort of a taqyia coded in your mind?
I don´t deny or claim anything. Rather, I prefer to keep my personal information private. My gender, age or religion are my business, not yours.
Of what concern is it to you? Why are you obsessed with this information? I could say I´m anything and you really wouldn´t know if it was the truth or not.
What I prefer, and I look at is how people express themselelves and what their ideas are.
Actually AE, that is not the case at all, seems you didnt get what i mean
Ãf you went through my post here and other posts before regarding cynic´s insulting posts, you would find i havent agreed with them too.
But im also against the idea that the bads erase the goods.
And i believe it is his right to take the credit for that.
His posts in the language forum are there and people still get benefit from them.
They are useful to learners, so that was a loss to us .
His posts in political forum were also informative and strike some point that i wasnt paying attention to.
So i cant just skip an eye on all this as if they are not there.
Ãt isnt fair.
Yes many of his posts caused disruption and also were flammable, crude and this everyone already know and said it
But he also has informative posts and was helpful to others in language/translation forums and that what i am adding.
Ãts his right.
I agree with what you say above Canli - and apologies if you think I have got you wrong. However, I still wonder if you would have said such things about a deleted member if they had not always agreed with your thoughts/ideas.
I don´t deny or claim anything. Rather, I prefer to keep my personal information private. My gender, age or religion are my business, not yours.
Of what concern is it to you? Why are you obsessed with this information? I could say I´m anything and you really wouldn´t know if it was the truth or not.
What I prefer, and I look at is how people express themselelves and what their ideas are.
alameda, with my hand on my heart. there is something wrong with you mind. when i read your post i lacked words, really.
DD has already told evrything about you. besides all this info comes from your own posts.
For God´s sake im not obsessed with the information about you. if you lied about yourself then it is your problem. you behave as if you were someone mysterious and we all are very keen on learning that precious info.
no, thank you, keep your gender and din to yourself.
Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here. If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.
As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.
Who cares what YOU prefer? Some people like to have some fun in their lives. If you can´t deal with it then maybe this isn´t the right place for you.
I do wonder why you bother to hang around here since you deem most of us to be lowly imbeciles who are unable to understand the high content of your posts.
Some people just don´t feel the need to shove their intelligence down others throats. It really shines best when one doesn´t try so hard to prove it......it´s an admirable trait.
Clannish? I don´t know how you get that idea, after all, I´m not a member of a gang here. If anyone does not agree with the ideas expressed in my posts, I have no problem with that. When people descend into personal attacks and gang ups, stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics, that is a different matter.
As for why Azymuth and others left, do you really think there should be a test of how much teasing and insults people can take should be a measure of their worthiness to post here? I would prefer like to read about their ideas and experiences.
Nobody is a member of a gang here! I don´t know any people here on a personal basis and do not talk to them outside of TC (and rarely PM!). Perhaps you just get upset when a majority of people disagree with you? Does it feel better to say to yourself that people are a gang, rather than "they all disagree with my thoughts"?
If it feels like a gang to you, it is only because some of us share the same humour and just want a little fun. Where I see humour, clearly you see "stupid disruptive off topic diversionary tactics" - I think you credit us with too much forward tactical premeditation!! If it against the rules to have fun here, then I will happily stop! I notice that you described Melek as being "one of the gang"!! Why? Because she also had some fun on the threads and made people laugh? You should try it sometime if you can jump of that dangerously high pedestal that you are sitting on.
With regard to Azymuth, please show me where anyone here insulted her. I saw two posts teasing, one from me and one from thehandsom, that were mildly teasing (as was a post of hers to thehandsom). If she found my post offensive, I would have to say "ask a silly question, get a silly answer". Nobody can be any judge of another´s worthiness to post, but also people should not expect an open forum to be a polite cafe society either.
nobody insulted azymuth. but azymuth insulted me. go and read the posts. s/he also insulted TC.
nobody insulted yilgun too. nobody insulted him as cynic insulted everyone who dared to disgree with him. nobody in TC´s history was as heavy and filthy insulter as him.
Actually Azymuth was a new user, and not used to TLC style of teasing...etc so s/he took it personally, and no one can blame her/him for that too, but also s/he fired back just like femmoues said and asked to be deleted.
Ãf s/he wasnt a new user then i would have agree with AE about what she said.
I agree with what you say above Canli - and apologies if you think I have got you wrong. However, I still wonder if you would have said such things about a deleted member if they had not always agreed with your thoughts/ideas.
Anyway, hope no offence was taken
Well, i guess yes
Some members here left and we didnt have same opinions but still they were very helpful and i said same
And i remember i also have missed femme when she left
Actually Azymuth was a new user, and not used to TLC style of teasing...etc so s/he took it personally, and no one can blame her/him for that too, but also s/he fired back just like femmoues said and asked to be deleted.
Ãf s/he wasnt a new user then i would have agree with AE about what she said.
Actually Azymuth was a new user, and not used to TLC style of teasing...etc so s/he took it personally, and no one can blame her/him for that too, but also s/he fired back just like femmoues said and asked to be deleted.
Ãf s/he wasnt a new user then i would have agree with AE about what she said.
that is not clear to me.
oh, yes, true, my english is poor and i will never learn the language of saxons as well as cynic and his TC allies.
alameda, with my hand on my heart. there is something wrong with you mind. when i read your post i lacked words, really.
DD has already told evrything about you. besides all this info comes from your own posts.
For God´s sake im not obsessed with the information about you. if you lied about yourself then it is your problem. you behave as if you were someone mysterious and we all are very keen on learning that precious info.
no, thank you, keep your gender and din to yourself.
" DD has already told evrything about you." I have never had any private messages with DD, so she really doesn´t know anything about me other than what I posted, you or anyone can see that. What I have done is express my ideas, in a few posts (very few) I wrote about personal experience. I have kept that to a minimum....but knock yourself out if it rocks your boat.
You and others are the ones who keep bringing up speculation regarding my personal information.
Actually AE, that is not the case at all, seems you didnt get what i mean
Ãf you went through my post here and other posts before regarding cynic´s insulting posts, you would find i havent agreed with them too.
But im also against the idea that the bads erase the goods.
And i believe it is his right to take the credit for that.
His posts in the language forum are there and people still get benefit from them.
They are useful to learners, so that was a loss to us .
His posts in political forum were also informative and strike some point that i wasnt paying attention to.
So i cant just skip an eye on all this as if they are not there.
Ãt isnt fair.
Yes many of his posts caused disruption and also were flammable, crude and this everyone already know and said it
But he also has informative posts and was helpful to others in language/translation forums and that what i am adding.
Ãts his right.
I did not want to talk about this subject but let me put my a few pennies:
I will disagree with you what you said above apart from his contribution into language section.
As I mentioned before, you can find a few interesting posts from him in political section (at least from my perspective) but that is all.. He had great writing skills and he put the quite common ideas (mostly nationalistic) into nicely written posts (several times).
But apart from that he was a person who sweared publicly..He insinuated beastilaity about one of the girls.
And I must say that it was horrible to see ´not very many´ objected to that incident..Even some clapped that post publicly!!
Because many of you did not object enough, you gave him encouragaments.
Because the person whom he was refering to, was not you or you disliked the person he was swearing at..Many times, I have seen him posting quite low or insinuating posts about certain people here, many of you did not even post a word of disagreement!! A quite low level of hypocrasy went on and on..
There was nothing to provoke him most of the time.. But there were some encouragements from some people here..
He did not have much moral levels about what to post what to say to the people he disagreed.
He had to be stopped before but unfortunately that was not the case..
Because of that level confusion and and because he showed that he did not have any levels at all, there was only one way of dealing with him and it was going down to his level. The level was not a very pleasant level. He would use anything he knew about the person he was arguing regardless it was a private information or not..That was very nasty.
Although he should have ben deleted long ago but now, he is gone for good..And gone is gone.
I did not want to talk about this subject but let me put my a few pennies:
Well, actually i´d preferred if you didnt talk about it too, specially the exchange was mostly between you two and the man isnt here anymore .
Quoting thehandsom
I will disagree with you what you said above apart from his contribution into language section.
Again i dont know how would you agree or disagree with me on what i have said
To me, his posts were informative and raised some points i wasnt paying attention to, so i dont imagine how this can be arguable ?!
Ãts my own evaluation !
Quoting thehandsom
As I mentioned before, you can find a few interesting posts from him in political section (at least from my perspective) but that is all.. He had great writing skills and he put the quite common ideas (mostly nationalistic) into nicely written posts (several times).
But apart from that he was a person who sweared publicly..He insinuated beastilaity about one of the girls.
And I must say that it was horrible to see ´not very many´ objected to that incident..Even some clapped that post publicly!!
Because many of you did not object enough, you gave him encouragaments.
Because the person whom he was refering to, was not you or you disliked the person he was swearing at..Many times, I have seen him posting quite low or insinuating posts about certain people here, many of you did not even post a word of disagreement!! A quite low level of hypocrasy went on and on..
There was nothing to provoke him most of the time.. But there were some encouragements from some people here..
He did not have much moral levels about what to post what to say to the people he disagreed.
He had to be stopped before but unfortunately that was not the case..
Because of that level confusion and and because he showed that he did not have any levels at all, there was only one way of dealing with him and it was going down to his level. The level was not a very pleasant level. He would use anything he knew about the person he was arguing regardless it was a private information or not..That was very nasty.
As i said, the man isnt here to reply, and as im not his lawyer or something so i cant talk on his behalf.
But i must say, it isnt nice that you criticize him like this now and he is gone and cant reply .
So again , yes i wished if you´d stayed as you were.
Dead Palestinian babies and bombed mosques - IDF fashion 2009
The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing. Elsewhere on the premises, the sketches are turned into plates used for imprinting the ordered items, mainly T-shirts and baseball caps, but also hoodies, fleece jackets and pants. A young Arab man from Jaffa supervises the workers who imprint the words and pictures, and afterward hands over the finished product.
Dead babies, mothers weeping on their children´s graves, a gun aimed at a child and bombed-out mosques - these are a few examples of the images Israel Defense Forces soldiers design these days to print on shirts they order to mark the end of training, or of field duty. The slogans accompanying the drawings are not exactly anemic either: A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him. A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills." A "graduation" shirt for those who have completed another snipers course depicts a Palestinian baby, who grows into a combative boy and then an armed adult, with the inscription, "No matter how it begins, we´ll put an end to it."
There are also plenty of shirts with blatant sexual messages. For example, the Lavi battalion produced a shirt featuring a drawing of a soldier next to a young woman with bruises, and the slogan, "Bet you got raped!" A few of the images underscore actions whose existence the army officially denies - such as "confirming the kill" (shooting a bullet into an enemy victim´s head from close range, to ensure he is dead), or harming religious sites, or female or child non-combatants.
As i said, the man isnt here to reply, and as im not his lawyer or something so i cant talk on his behalf.
But i must say, it isnt nice that you criticize him like this now and he is gone and cant reply .
So again , yes i wished if you´d stayed as you were.
´´I did not want to talk about this subject ´´
Canli, the man isn´t here for a reason! Handsom´s criticism of cynic isn´t something he is only doing now that the man is gone and cynic certainly doesn´t need to be here to "defend" himself....everyone saw what he was like and what got him deleted. I wonder how many of this guys posts you actually read.
Edited (3/21/2009) by girleegirl
[Formatting is funky tonight!!!]
Canli, the man isn´t here for a reason! Handsom´s criticism of cynic isn´t something he is only doing now that the man is gone and cynic certainly doesn´t need to be here to "defend" himself....everyone saw what he was like and what got him deleted. I wonder how many of this guys posts you actually read.
bosver, gg, she doesnt understand basic facts. canli speaks as if cynic was dead and we all killed him.
whats wrong with criticising the person who is no longer here? did he join the deads?
i grew up hearing that was not good to say bad about a person who passed away. and i question this tradition.
canli and her friends almost worshipped that young man. the credits were given even from the opposite side.
i personally dont judge people by their knowledge, career or education, i judge them by their mentality, personality. what´s good of the knowledge if you are still an idiot, rude and very simplistic in thinking, judging and expressing?
so, GG let it go. you will never convince these people. they are made of a different clay.
" DD has already told evrything about you." I have never had any private messages with DD, so she really doesn´t know anything about me other than what I posted, you or anyone can see that. What I have done is express my ideas, in a few posts (very few) I wrote about personal experience. I have kept that to a minimum....but knock yourself out if it rocks your boat.
You and others are the ones who keep bringing up speculation regarding my personal information.
Alameda, I posted what I found in your posts only because you stated that you´re a mysterious person whose gender, background etc has not been revealed. I wanted to show you that it wasn´t true. For all it matters, none of us is really interested in your personal life, were it otherwise we´d PM you asking about the details.
The MP for Bethnal Green and Bow had been due to speak at a number of events in the country but his anti-war stance was drawn to the attention of the government by a Jewish group.
A Canadian government spokesman said that the decision would not be overturned for a man regarded as an "infandous street-corner Cromwell".
"We´re going to uphold the law, [and] not give special treatment to this infandous street-corner Cromwell who actually brags about giving ´financial support´ to Hamas, a terrorist organisation banned in Canada," said Velshi.
..
Galloway said ..
"Canada was built by Scotsmen, it is like being turned away from the family home."
this lady who owns the site called www. jihadunspun.com was kidnapped by peaceful taliban.
i feel sorry for her, not she is only kidnapped but also lost in mind like many who converted to this religion as a result of 9/11.
Canadian abducted in Pakistan pleads for life in video
Updated Fri. Mar. 20 2009 11:26 AM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
A Canadian woman being held hostage in Pakistan says time is running out and her militant captors will behead her soon if a ransom isn´t paid.
Vancouver´s Beverly Giesbrecht, who converted to Islam and is now known as Khadija Abdul Qahaar, has been held since November.
The independent journalist was kidnapped at gunpoint while doing freelance work for the Al Jazeera Arab network, in a tribally ruled region of northern Pakistan.
"We have very short time now. I am going to be killed at any time as you can see the dagger," she says in the video, referring to a knife hung on the wall behind her.
Giesbrecht´s captors have demanded a ransom and the release of Taliban prisoners, in exchange for her return.
According to some reports, the Taliban will free her for US$375,000 in ransom.
The 52-year-old pleads for her life in the video, saying her fate will be the same as Piotr Stanczak, a Polish engineer who was executed last month.
"I am going to be beheaded just like the Polish engineer, probably by the end of the month. The deadline is by the end of March, and that´s basically, I don´t know, 18 days or 16 days," she says, closing her eyes.
"I´m not quite sure how long that is but the time is very short and my life is going to end."
The short video was sent to The Globe and Mail.
In it, Giesbrecht is wearing a head scarf and sitting on a wooden chair. She explains she is being held by the Taliban somewhere near the border of Afghanistan, but isn´t sure which of the two countries she is being held in.
Security expert Eric Margolis said there have been other similar cases in recent months, including that of Stanczak, and Giesbrecht isn´t exaggerating when she says her life is in danger.
"It´s being done for one of two reasons," he told CTV´s Canada AM.
"First there are criminal gangs everywhere and they may have done this for money. It has also been reported there have been ransom demands. Also it´s been said they have offered to trade her for hundreds of Taliban prisoners who are being held by the Afghan government."
Canada´s Foreign Affairs Department has declined to comment on Giesbrecht´s plight, but Margolis said officials are likely working behind the scenes with the Pakistan government.
He said it is "totally out of character" for tribes in the region to kidnap a woman, since their code of honour forbids the mistreatment or murder of women.
Giesbrecht converted to Islam after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
She runs a website called Jihad Unspun, which claims to provide information that is "devoid of the constraints of mainstream media."
Galloway is perhaps best known for his vigorous campaign to overturn economic sanctions against Iraq in the 1990s and early 2000s and to avert the 2003 invasion of that country. He made visits there in 1994 and 2002. As part of a speech in his 1994 visit in which Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was in attendance, he said "Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability",[1] although Galloway has always stated that he was addressing the Iraqi people,[2] and that he is not an admirer of Saddam.
A Borat-style documentary lampooning the world´s religions through interviews with their leaders is to open in Britain next week and, if the US experience is anything to go, it is certain to spark controversy.
A Borat-style documentary lampooning the world´s religions through interviews with their leaders is to open in Britain next week and, if the US experience is anything to go, it is certain to spark controversy.
Make sure your wife is not your sister! Nadeen Ibrahim I Arab News
MADINAH: Islamic law prohibits marriage with one’s wet nurse (for men), her husband (for women), her biological children and any nonbiological children she breast-fed. All such individuals are described as the person’s “mahram.”
Since there is no official system of documenting the names and identities of children who have been breast-fed by a woman, some young men and women sometimes end up accidentally marrying someone suckled by their own wet nurse. This can cause difficulties when couples find out later in life. If they have children, then things can be an even bigger problem.
“We were married for seven years before we discovered we were brothers and sisters. My mother-in-law had breast-fed me,” said Hayat, a schoolteacher from Madinah. “We were lucky as we had no children,” she said, adding that she and her ex-husband only learned that she had been nursed by his mother when an old family friend visited her home.
“She was astonished to find we were married. She reminded my mother that when she had had puerperal fever after giving birth to me, my former mother-in-law breast-fed me and that my marriage to her son was thus forbidden,” she said.
Hayat and her husband divorced and remarried, subsequently becoming parents with their new spouses. Hayat said she does not regret separating, as she did not really love her ex-husband in the way one loves their spouse.
The story of Umm Abdul Aziz is more tragic. She was married for 30 years and mothered nine children before discovering her husband was her foster brother. “It happened out of the blue. An elderly man came to my husband one day and told him that we had been suckled by the same woman. He even knew people who knew of this and could testify as witnesses. We were greatly shocked and deeply saddened,” she said.
Umm Abdul Aziz said that since her children were old and some of them had traveled abroad to study, she and her husband felt it was needless to ruin their lives and decided to keep the matter a secret and continue living together as brother and sister and not as partners.
More than a million internet users have watched the viral video in the four days since it was released online.
The 200 second ad also sees the creatures manoeuvred into position to create a giant sheep and even has them creating the Mona Lisa with the various coloured LEDs on their back.
The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing.
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A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him
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A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."
The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing.
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A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him
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A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."
The office at the Adiv fabric-printing shop in south Tel Aviv handles a constant stream of customers, many of them soldiers in uniform, who come to order custom clothing featuring their unit´s insignia, usually accompanied by a slogan and drawing of their choosing.
......
A T-shirt for infantry snipers bears the inscription "Better use Durex," next to a picture of a dead Palestinian baby, with his weeping mother and a teddy bear beside him
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A sharpshooter´s T-shirt from the Givati Brigade´s Shaked battalion shows a pregnant Palestinian woman with a bull´s-eye superimposed on her belly, with the slogan, in English, "1 shot, 2 kills."
Is there ever a wrong time to pray? Seems like it, and the Tunisian Pilot has been sentenced to 10 years by an Italian court for praying rather than turning his attention to a pending disaster, where 16 people died when the plane he was piloting crashed.
Is there ever a wrong time to pray? Seems like it, and the Tunisian Pilot has been sentenced to 10 years by an Italian court for praying rather than turning his attention to a pending disaster, where 16 people died when the plane he was piloting crashed.
If someone in such a responsible job rather prays than do what he is paid for, I think he has chosen the wrong job. To me this verdict is very deserved.
If someone in such a responsible job rather prays than do what he is paid for, I think he has chosen the wrong job. To me this verdict is very deserved.
I think he got off pretty light actually..........
Unfortunately your return will be short lived as I notice you DARED to write the word "clown" in the "Word Game" .....
Mods are likely to delete YOU and your post
Edited (3/24/2009) by TheAenigma
[Dear mods, please note that I used the offensive word "clown" as a quotation, and therefore I hope you will not delete me (on THIS occasion) :D]
Unfortunately your return will be short lived as I notice you DARED to write the word "clown" in the "Word Game" .....
Mods are likely to delete YOU and your post
In view of your disclaimer below:
Edited (1:19 pm) by TheAenigma [Dear mods, please note that I used the offensive word "clown" as a quotation, and therefore I hope you will not delete )
China´s move to block YouTube has been criticised by a leading advocacy group that promotes constitutional liberties in the digital age.
The Centre for Democracy and Technology told the BBC: "China´s actions fail to live up to international norms." The video sharing site has been off limits in China since Monday.
"China´s apparent blocking of YouTube is at odds with the rule of law and the right to freedom of expression," said CDT president Leslie Harris.
"Anytime a country limits or takes down content online , it must be forthright and specific about its actions and do so only in narrowly defined circumstances consistent with international human rights and the rule of law," stated Ms Harris.
Google, which owns YouTube, told the BBC that it had no idea why the Chinese government had taken this action.
A US man who thought he was dying and confessed to having killed a neighbour in 1977 has been charged with murder after making a recovery, US media say.
James Brewer could now face the death penalty over the unsolved killing in Tennessee 32 years ago, reports say.
Convinced he was dying after a stroke, Mr Brewer reportedly admitted to police he shot dead 20-year-old Jimmy Carroll.
The 58-year-old, who had fled Tennessee after the killing, was arrested after his condition improved, reports say.
"He wanted to cleanse his soul, because he thought he was going to the great beyond," said police detective Tony Grasso, who interviewed Mr Brewer in an Oklahoma hospital, The Oklahoman website reported.
A US man who thought he was dying and confessed to having killed a neighbour in 1977 has been charged with murder after making a recovery, US media say.
James Brewer could now face the death penalty over the unsolved killing in Tennessee 32 years ago, reports say.
Convinced he was dying after a stroke, Mr Brewer reportedly admitted to police he shot dead 20-year-old Jimmy Carroll.
The 58-year-old, who had fled Tennessee after the killing, was arrested after his condition improved, reports say.
"He wanted to cleanse his soul, because he thought he was going to the great beyond," said police detective Tony Grasso, who interviewed Mr Brewer in an Oklahoma hospital, The Oklahoman website reported.
I posted the longer version one a while ago...it makes me cry every time
I knew I had seen it before but could not remember! I tried to find the one with the Aerosmith track, I don´t wanna a miss a thing - now that does reduce me to tears
I knew I had seen it before but could not remember! I tried to find the one with the Aerosmith track, I don´t wanna a miss a thing - now that does reduce me to tears
Sealers taking part in Canada´s controversial yearly hunt have slaughtered some 19,411 seals so far this year, reaching their full kill-quota, fisheries officials said Thursday.
"It´s been calm and orderly," said Phil Jenkins, a spokesman for Canada´s fisheries and oceans department, describing the first leg of the annual commercial cull, which ended Wednesday.
Some 350 Canadian sealers in 20 vessels and on the shores of the Magdalen Islands have taken part in the annual seal kill.
Weather permitting, a small hunt of 1,500 animals around Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, will take place on Friday, Jenkins said.
Otherwise, the commercial hunt would resume next month off the west coast of Canada´s island Newfoundland province and near Quebec´s lower northshore, targeting some 63,000 seals.
Thereafter, the main hunt off the northeast coast of Newfoundland will kick off, said Jenkins. Some 188,600 seals are expected to be slaughtered during this phase.
Canada is home to the world´s largest annual commercial seal hunt. Harp seals also are hunted commercially off the coasts of Greenland, Norway, the United States, Namibia, Britain, Finland and Sweden.
The seals are hunted mainly for their pelts, but also for meat and fat, which is used in beauty products.
The Canadian hunt has been fiercely criticized by animal rights groups, who say it is cruel.
The Canadian government countered that the 350-year-old hunt is crucial for some 6,000 North Atlantic fisherman who rely on the seal hunt for up to 35 percent of their total annual income.
In April, the European parliament is to vote on a proposed prohibition on seal products that would ban products derived from seals from being imported, exported or even transported across the 27-member bloc.
The measure still has to be approved by EU governments before it can be implemented.
Ottawa has said it would fight any curbs on the international trade of seal products.
Sealers taking part in Canada´s controversial yearly hunt have slaughtered some 19,411 seals so far this year, reaching their full kill-quota, fisheries officials said Thursday.
"It´s been calm and orderly," said Phil Jenkins, a spokesman for Canada´s fisheries and oceans department, describing the first leg of the annual commercial cull, which ended Wednesday.
Some 350 Canadian sealers in 20 vessels and on the shores of the Magdalen Islands have taken part in the annual seal kill.
Weather permitting, a small hunt of 1,500 animals around Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, will take place on Friday, Jenkins said.
Otherwise, the commercial hunt would resume next month off the west coast of Canada´s island Newfoundland province and near Quebec´s lower northshore, targeting some 63,000 seals.
Thereafter, the main hunt off the northeast coast of Newfoundland will kick off, said Jenkins. Some 188,600 seals are expected to be slaughtered during this phase.
Canada is home to the world´s largest annual commercial seal hunt. Harp seals also are hunted commercially off the coasts of Greenland, Norway, the United States, Namibia, Britain, Finland and Sweden.
The seals are hunted mainly for their pelts, but also for meat and fat, which is used in beauty products.
The Canadian hunt has been fiercely criticized by animal rights groups, who say it is cruel.
The Canadian government countered that the 350-year-old hunt is crucial for some 6,000 North Atlantic fisherman who rely on the seal hunt for up to 35 percent of their total annual income.
In April, the European parliament is to vote on a proposed prohibition on seal products that would ban products derived from seals from being imported, exported or even transported across the 27-member bloc.
The measure still has to be approved by EU governments before it can be implemented.
Ottawa has said it would fight any curbs on the international trade of seal products.
This is a subject very dear to my heart and so I can´t actually reply in a calm manner, except to say that is it vile and disgusting. I have seen the way they slaughter seals, clubbing them - not always completely killing, leaving them in extreme pain - in order to protect and unharm the pelts. The sooner this disgusting trade is stopped the better....
This is a subject very dear to my heart and so I can´t actually reply in a calm manner, except to say that is it vile and disgusting. I have seen the way they slaughter seals, clubbing them - not always completely killing, leaving them in extreme pain - in order to protect and unharm the pelts. The sooner this disgusting trade is stopped the better....
... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"
comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."
T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long".
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"There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....
... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"
comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."
T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long".
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"There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....
This is a subject very dear to my heart and so I can´t actually reply in a calm manner, except to say that is it vile and disgusting. I have seen the way they slaughter seals, clubbing them - not always completely killing, leaving them in extreme pain - in order to protect and unharm the pelts. The sooner this disgusting trade is stopped the better....
+++ I agree...there are organizations that petiiton and work against this:
"During the recent spring Board of Game meeting, the board also approved a proposal to allow to the use of gas bombs to kill wolves and wolf pups in their dens."
Police have not revealed many details about the case
Police have arrested a man and his son on suspicion of raping their daughters in the northern Italian city of Turin.
The son was allegedly encouraged to imitate his father, who reportedly kept his daughter captive in a dark room for 25 years, sexually abusing her.
Italian media say the first victim, given the pseudonym "Laura", is now 34 and is having psychological treatment.
Laura alerted the police, who now believe that the 63-year-old man´s son also raped his own four daughters.
Laura´s abuse is believed to have started when she was nine years old.
Italian media say the case echoes that of Josef Fritzl, the Austrian man jailed for life on 19 March for having kept his daughter as a sex slave in a cellar for 24 years and fathered her seven children.
Italian police announced the arrest of the 63-year-old man, an itinerant trader, and his 40-year-old son on Friday.
... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"
comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."
T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long".
...
"There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....
... a new research published in the "Journal of Sexual Medicine"
comes to shatter these unrealistic beliefs of what healthy sex means.... but 7 to 13 minutes is the ideal, and even three-minute sex is "adequate."
T.. People rated 7 to 13 minutes most "desirable", but intercourse of 3 to 7 minutes was regarded as "adequate", while anything less was "too short" and over 13 minutes was "too long".
...
"There is a major gender difference in this area. Usually women are quite happy with short intercourse, and are not bothered about prolonging it at all, but nearly all men want it to be much, much longer. It is important not to obsess over the length of intercourse....
Mysterious illness is causing calves to bleed to death
A mysterious illness is causing calves to bleed to death on German farms.
Veterinarians are stumped over what is causing the deaths:
vaccines, genetically modified feed or perhaps even the first mother´s milk?
Guess we just all need to give up eating beef....or the stupid people who feed them need to realize cows were not meant to eat anything but hay and grains!!
Professor Orhan Kuruüzüm, an academic in the management and economics faculty, was accused of “whistling in the corridor while holding a tea glass” and “continuing to whistle until he entered his room” earlier this month. The deputy dean of the faculty, Professor Þafak Aksoy, filed the complaint. A professor from the agriculture faculty assessed the complaint and suggested a “warning” as a punishment for Kuruüzüm’s conduct.
The dean of the faculty of management and economics, Professor Ãsrafil Kurtcephe, argued the punishment was too light for the act, increasing to a fine of 100 Turkish liras.
Kuruüzüm’s lawyer Mustafa Necati Þahiner said his client faced persecution by the faculty, arguing that the faculty management’s aim was to create the environment where they could fire him. The fine is the fourth such punishment the 15-year academic has faced since Professor Ãsrafil Kurtcephe took over as the dean of the faculty in November. The first inquiry focused on claims that Kuruüzüm had called Kurtcephe “worthless” and “appointed from the top.”
Professor Orhan Kuruüzüm, an academic in the management and economics faculty, was accused of “whistling in the corridor while holding a tea glass” and “continuing to whistle until he entered his room” earlier this month.
Nanjing, capital of east China´s Jiangsu Province, The gorgeous wedding dress decorated with 2,009 pieces of peacock feathers took eight handicraftsmen two months to finish.
Women may be able to blame impulse buys and extravagant shopping on their time of the month, research suggests.
In the 10 days before their periods began women were more likely to go on a spending spree, a study found....
The spending behaviour tends to be a reaction to intense emotions
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Almost two-thirds of the 153 women studied who were in the later stages of their menstrual cycle - known as the luteal phase - admitted they had bought something on an impulse and more than half said they had overspent by more than £25.
Women may be able to blame impulse buys and extravagant shopping on their time of the month, research suggests.
In the 10 days before their periods began women were more likely to go on a spending spree, a study found....
The spending behaviour tends to be a reaction to intense emotions
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Almost two-thirds of the 153 women studied who were in the later stages of their menstrual cycle - known as the luteal phase - admitted they had bought something on an impulse and more than half said they had overspent by more than £25.
Just watching the news on TV and an olympic pole volter is making a protest about budget cuts for athletes by running through Paris naked with his pole (now now!!!)
Just watching the news on TV and an olympic pole volter is making a protest about budget cuts for athletes by running through Paris naked with his pole (now now!!!)
Fifteen hundred people paid to be ‘debaptised’ in the UK last week alone, as a new trend threatens to undermine the place of the Church of England.
The National Secular Society (NSS) has provided a ‘certificate of debaptism’ on its website for five years which has been downloaded by more than 100,000 people. They have recently introduced a new parchment copy for £3 which has proved incredibly popular, but the Church is refusing to recognize a need for the procedure....
Fifteen hundred people paid to be ‘debaptised’ in the UK last week alone, as a new trend threatens to undermine the place of the Church of England.
The National Secular Society (NSS) has provided a ‘certificate of debaptism’ on its website for five years which has been downloaded by more than 100,000 people. They have recently introduced a new parchment copy for £3 which has proved incredibly popular, but the Church is refusing to recognize a need for the procedure....
Fifteen hundred people paid to be ‘debaptised’ in the UK last week alone, as a new trend threatens to undermine the place of the Church of England.
The National Secular Society (NSS) has provided a ‘certificate of debaptism’ on its website for five years which has been downloaded by more than 100,000 people. They have recently introduced a new parchment copy for £3 which has proved incredibly popular, but the Church is refusing to recognize a need for the procedure....
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The Sudanese president has performed a Muslim pilgrimage in Islam´s holiest city, Mecca.
This is Omar al-Bashir´s latest venture abroad despite an international court´s order for his arrest for war crimes in Darfur.
The official Saudi Press Agency says senior officials from Mecca´s Grand Mosque met President Omar al-Bashir before he performed the minor pilgrimage, known as Omra, on Wednesday.
The agency gave no further details about the visit, which came as King Abdullah and other senior officials were in London for the G20 summit. Al-Bashir arrived in the kingdom from Qatar, where he attended the Arab League summit this week.
‘Woman gave birth, left baby on plane´ A woman who secretly gave birth on a flight from Samoa to New Zealand may face criminal charges after her baby was found alive in the plane´s bathroom, police and media reports said on Friday.
Police are inquiring into "the alleged ... abandonment of the child by the mother" after the flight landed in New Zealand on Thursday, police communications manager Ana-Mari Gates-Bowey said. "A likelihood of this investigation is a criminal prosecution." Media reports said the mother left the baby in a bathroom waste bin on the Pacific Blue plane carrying 150 passengers; others said she was spotted with bloodied clothes in an immigration line. Police have declined comment on the reports. Gates-Bowey said late on Thursday the woman had undergone surgery at Auckland´s Middlemore Hospital and was later reunited with her baby. Its gender has not been disclosed. "We are relieved to have been informed that both mother and child are reunited, are well and are now being looked after in hospital," Pacific Blue said in a statement on Thursday. The 30-year-old woman, believed to be a Samoan national, got off the aircraft at Auckland International airport early on Thursday without flight attendants knowing she had given birth.
School bans Muslim mother from parents´ evening for wearing veil A mother was barred from a parents´ evening at her son´s school as she was wearing a veil. The 34-year-old was turned away on security and safety grounds after arriving in clothes which covered every part of her body except her eyes. The incident in Blackburn follows a furore over comments by the area´s MP Jack Straw about women who cover their faces. Mr Straw, now Justice Secretary, said in 2006 that veils could make community relations harder as they were a ´visible statement of separation and difference´. In the latest controversy last week, the mother of one was furious after being told that visitors´ faces should be visible at all times.
School bans Muslim mother from parents´ evening for wearing veil A mother was barred from a parents´ evening at her son´s school as she was wearing a veil. The 34-year-old was turned away on security and safety grounds after arriving in clothes which covered every part of her body except her eyes. The incident in Blackburn follows a furore over comments by the area´s MP Jack Straw about women who cover their faces. Mr Straw, now Justice Secretary, said in 2006 that veils could make community relations harder as they were a ´visible statement of separation and difference´. In the latest controversy last week, the mother of one was furious after being told that visitors´ faces should be visible at all times.
Rightly or not? Can a school barr parents because of safety reasons?
I guess the answer isn´t simple, as usual.
I am a teacher in Blackburn, where this incident happened. I saw the headline on the billboard outside a shop. My first reaction was that the ban wasn´t necessary. The reason I thought this was because I work in a primary school and as such, staff have daily contact with parents as they collect them from school. In such a situation, I would say a ban would not be necessary because we would be very familiar with all parents and thus we would recognise her, even fully covered.
In most primary schools, parents´ evening is conducted within the classroom, whereas in High Schools (which is what the school in question is) parents´ evening is generally conducted in the main hall. All staff are seated around the edge of the hall, at a table, and chairs for waiting parents are in the centre. It is a very crowded situation. Also, high school staff do not come into contact with parents very often. I remember going to my daughter´s parents evenings and some of the staff had trouble recalling who my daughter was, never mind who I was!!! (And this was at a relatively small school of 600 . . . many high schools are double that size).
So in such a high school situation I would say the staff are in the same position as Jack Straw believed he was, vulnerable if they can´t even see whether the person is male or female. A while ago a suspected terrorist escaped the country by posing as a fully covered Muslim woman . . . I don´t remember the exact details, but the incident has caused people to be cautious perhaps.
What I would say to Jack Straw and this school is . . . you don´t know really anyone who walks through your door, covered or not . . . anyone could be a danger. Look at recent news articles where people, even students, have returned to their schools and killed.
Maybe Members of Parliament, when they are conducting their constituency clinics, andhigh schools, when they are conducting their parents´ evenings, should have general security measures in place, for all parents. Rather like airports? (tongue in cheek)
I think there is a degree of compromise needed here. If a woman chooses to fully cover herself, then she must expect to meet some difficult situations with regard to security. So, is it acceptable for schools to ensure there is a room, staffed by women, who can check out the face of the covered Muslimas? To do this they would have to have the photo of every parent on record and, as far as I know this is not procedure. Or perhaps the child could have accompanied his/her parent?
It is one of those situations that does not have a clear cut answer, but it definitely does divide opinion, especially when reported by the Daily Mail .
If the decision has been made for security reasons, then I think a whole battery of security measures would need to be implemented because danger comes from all walks of life these days.
No veil? ok she can enter . . . What about the stock of ammunition she may have under her clothing? What about the knife any parent may have secreted about his person? What about the parent who had a very bad experience of school and harbours a grudge? In high schools, the ist of reasons for security would be endless. High school teachers do not know the parents so well and may have never even met them.
The sad thing is, I have heard that the government is planning to close down some high schools across the country and create new, even larger institutions. Logistical nightmares.
Without knowing the full details, I wou;d say the school hasn´t done enough to accommodate the needs of the parent or the child. Nowadays, schools have policies for everything and there should be a policy in place in this instance, but not just to state who they will ban, but how they can best accommodate the needs of all parents/children. The buzz word of Blackburn with Darwen Education Authority is ´inclusion´, as it is throughout the country. I don´t see how this incident illustrates inclusion. I wouldn´t say that certain sectors of society need special treatment. If security is of such importance then perhaps measures should be all inclusive, with all parents subjected to some form of security measure at the entrance (for reasons I have already stated).
On a lighter note, the mention of Jack Straw reminded me of a funny incident, which the staff at my school were actually laughing about yesterday.
Some years ago, Jack Straw was due to visit our school and the head was quite excited (can´t think why personally). She is retired now. Our Headteacher was a lady who always got people´s names incorrect. In Jack Straws case she referred to him as Jock Strap (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=Jock%20strap&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi for those who aren´t familiar with a jock strap).
How I wish she had saved her error for the day she met the man himself .
I am a teacher in Blackburn, where this incident happened. I saw the headline on the billboard outside a shop. My first reaction was that the ban wasn´t necessary. The reason I thought this was because I work in a primary school and as such, staff have daily contact with parents as they collect them from school. In such a situation, I would say a ban would not be necessary because we would be very familiar with all parents and thus we would recognise her, even fully covered.
In most primary schools, parents´ evening is conducted within the classroom, whereas in High Schools (which is what the school in question is) parents´ evening is generally conducted in the main hall. All staff are seated around the edge of the hall, at a table, and chairs for waiting parents are in the centre. It is a very crowded situation. Also, high school staff do not come into contact with parents very often. I remember going to my daughter´s parents evenings and some of the staff had trouble recalling who my daughter was, never mind who I was!!! (And this was at a relatively small school of 600 . . . many high schools are double that size).
So in such a high school situation I would say the staff are in the same position as Jack Straw believed he was, vulnerable if they can´t even see whether the person is male or female. A while ago a suspected terrorist escaped the country by posing as a fully covered Muslim woman . . . I don´t remember the exact details, but the incident has caused people to be cautious perhaps.
What I would say to Jack Straw and this school is . . . you don´t know really anyone who walks through your door, covered or not . . . anyone could be a danger. Look at recent news articles where people, even students, have returned to their schools and killed.
Maybe Members of Parliament, when they are conducting their constituency clinics, andhigh schools, when they are conducting their parents´ evenings, should have general security measures in place, for all parents. Rather like airports? (tongue in cheek)
I think there is a degree of compromise needed here. If a woman chooses to fully cover herself, then she must expect to meet some difficult situations with regard to security. So, is it acceptable for schools to ensure there is a room, staffed by women, who can check out the face of the covered Muslimas? To do this they would have to have the photo of every parent on record and, as far as I know this is not procedure. Or perhaps the child could have accompanied his/her parent?
It is one of those situations that does not have a clear cut answer, but it definitely does divide opinion, especially when reported by the Daily Mail .
If the decision has been made for security reasons, then I think a whole battery of security measures would need to be implemented because danger comes from all walks of life these days.
No veil? ok she can enter . . . What about the stock of ammunition she may have under her clothing? What about the knife any parent may have secreted about his person? What about the parent who had a very bad experience of school and harbours a grudge? In high schools, the ist of reasons for security would be endless. High school teachers do not know the parents so well and may have never even met them.
The sad thing is, I have heard that the government is planning to close down some high schools across the country and create new, even larger institutions. Logistical nightmares.
Without knowing the full details, I wou;d say the school hasn´t done enough to accommodate the needs of the parent or the child. Nowadays, schools have policies for everything and there should be a policy in place in this instance, but not just to state who they will ban, but how they can best accommodate the needs of all parents/children. The buzz word of Blackburn with Darwen Education Authority is ´inclusion´, as it is throughout the country. I don´t see how this incident illustrates inclusion. I wouldn´t say that certain sectors of society need special treatment. If security is of such importance then perhaps measures should be all inclusive, with all parents subjected to some form of security measure at the entrance (for reasons I have already stated).
We are living in different times I guess.
Great answer PT and once again the Daily Mail doing a splendid job stirring up a bit more racial hatred! I am sure that paper is backed by the BNP
Great answer PT and once again the Daily Mail doing a splendid job stirring up a bit more racial hatred! I am sure that paper is backed by the BNP
I am going off topic now but regarding the BNP.. IN my opinion they have dreadful views. Whilst I understand all people should have a voice, what annoys me about the BNP is this . They are allowed to use a National flag as their party´s emblem. I think there should be a law to ensure no party can do this. It´s no wonder that the St George flag doesn´t get flown as often as it might. I think it is now mostly associated with a bunch of racists.
DÃDÃM - Didim Local Governor Ali Katýrcý warned shop owners in the Aegean resort town that they would be punished or even have their shops closed for disturbing or hustling tourists in their shops.
Upon Katýrcý’s order, a team was formed last year to fight hustling in the town, which is visited by hundreds of thousands of tourists each year. The team included undercover policemen equipped with cameras. The officers continuously monitored and investigated the bazaars and photographed shop personnel hustling tourists.
Punishments
Following the team’s report, the local governorship fined the offending shop owners and temporarily closed down the shops. Last year more than 20 shops and restaurants were closed for 15 days.
Pointing out that they would not tolerate hustling this year too, Katýrcý called on shop owners not to disturb tourists, otherwise their shops would be closed. "We were successful in fighting hustling last year. With fines and closure punishments, hustling cases decreased. Our aim is to stop hustling from negatively affecting tourism. We are not glad about sealing off shops, but we have to carry out the law. I strongly suggest shop and restaurant owners not get into these kinds things to disturb tourists," said Katýrcý.
Muslim worshippers at about 200 old mosques in Mecca have been praying in the wrong direction for decades because the mosques were not built correctly, a Saudi newspaper reported Sunday. Muslims around the world are bound to orient their daily prayers towards the Kaaba, and mosques everywhere were supposed to be built facing the black-shrouded cubic building, or have indicators of its direction. But the Saudi Gazette reported that 200 mosques were not built precisely based on the qibla, the official alignment with the holy Kaaba shrine at the center of Mecca´s al-Haram mosque. The discrepancy was only realized after looking at the old mosques, some built more than 50 years ago, from atop the new skyscrapers under construction in Islam´s holiest city in western Saudi Arabia, the report said. Mecca residents and experts suggested that these mosques put up a correct indicator of the qibla, or orient their prayer rugs exactly in the direction of the Kaaba. Another suggestion was installing laser beams in the tall minarets of the al-Haram mosque built around the Kaaba to help mosques and worshippers establish the correct qibla direction. Deputy secretary of the Islamic Affairs Ministry, Tawfik al-Sudairy, downplayed the problem. "There are no major errors, but corrections have been made for some old mosques, thanks to modern techniques. In any case, it does not affect the prayers," the newspaper quoted Sudairy as saying.
Turkey says 11 die from alcohol poisoning Eleven people have died in Turkey in the last three weeks from poisoning caused by bootleg alcohol, the Agriculture Ministry said on Saturday. Three German students holidaying in the southeastern Mediterranean resort of Kemer are among the dead, media reports said. The ministry said in a statement that the 11 had died as a result of methyl alcohol poisoning and that it was stepping up inspections to prevent further cases. It called on consumers to be careful when purchasing alcohol to make sure that it is genuine. Among the dead were seven people who died in the northwestern province of Bursa. Most of the deaths were caused by fake raki, Turkey´s popular aniseed spirit.
’Daughters of Allah’ nets bad review from officials
ANKARA - A Religious Affairs Directorate high committee has severely criticized the book "Daughters of Allah" written by Nedim Gürsel and published by the Doðan publishing house. The committee was responding to a inquiry from a reader and drafted a one-page report to express its views regarding the book’s content. The committee concluded that the book was sarcastic and said it overstepped the boundaries of criticism, reported daily Milliyet yesterday. The reader, Ali Emre Bukaðýlý, sent two faxes to the committee in February, seeking its opinion about "Daughters of Allah." The report, signed by the committee’s Vice chairman Professor Hamza Aktan, was sent to the reader. "It has been found that the book was insulting and sarcastic, humiliating Allah, its prophets, divine religions, worshipping, holy books and religious principles. This cannot be explained in the scope of freedom of thought or criticism," the report read. Here are excerpts from the book that were found inapt:
Page 22: About Prophet Ãbrahim à "that little Ãbrahim was crossing the line."
Pages 164, 165: As if Ebu Sufyan was talking about Prophet Mohammed à "that ignorant child later married to Hatice, daughter of Hüveylid, then he became rich, however he could not become a man."
Page 240: Menat, a non-living thing, a totem, talking about Aisha (Mohammed’s wife) Ã "Oh Aisha, dear Aisha! You little hog Aisha!"
Page 29: About Prophet Ãbrahim à "He could not have illegitimate children from both of them."
Page 71: About the Koran à "The crooked letters of the holy book."
School bans Muslim mother from parents´ evening for wearing veil
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Rightly or not? Can a school barr parents because of safety reasons?
Yes of course a school can, and should, ban a parent if they pose a potential safety or security threat to staff or pupils in the school. Take the situation of a parent entering the school blind drunk - not only is it not pleasant, not a good example to pupils but there is a real danger of the parent falling over and breaking something......a child´s back perhaps!
Whether wearing a veil poses a potential threat to safety or security is, of course, a different matter!!!
Poor chap with pains in his chest did not expect to have a spruce tree growing in his lungs............... gives a whole new meaning to being "spruced up"!!
Glad they were able to remove the sapling from his lungs!!
When this woman walked onto the stage of Britains got talent, people in the crowd were sniggering and giggling and pulling faces, a snearing bunch of prejudice people thinking she will be crap...............
So one good reason why you should never judge people by their looks......... sorry for those who cannot see youtube....
Watching this woman sing brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes.............
...and to mine. As you said it just goes to prove how wrong it is prejudge people based on their looks. This woman has an amazing voice - I hope she can somehow realise her dream.
...and to mine. As you said it just goes to prove how wrong it is prejudge people based on their looks. This woman has an amazing voice - I hope she can somehow realise her dream.
By what is in the papers today, she has not gone un-noticed around the world with something like 12 millions hits on youtube and the rich a famous commenting on her voice!
Shanno Khan, Schoolgirl Dies After Corporal Punishment in the Sun
Shanno Khan, a little 11-year old girl in India, is dead after a teacher subjected her to severe corporal punishment by forcing her to stand outside in the hot sun. Corporal punishment is illegal in India and Shanno Khan´s teacher and the school principal are facing possible criminal charges over her death. Little Shanno Khan was severely punished, literally left in the sun to die, after she didn´t complete a homework assignment. For hours the 11-year old stood in the blaring New Delhi sun; her nose started to bleed, she fainted, and eventually slipped into a coma in hospital where she died. Renuka Chowdhury, India´s Minister for Women and Child Development called the incident a "terrible tragedy." Police are awaiting the results of Shanno Khan´s autopsy before deciding whether to lay criminal charges on the educators.
Eleven-year-old Shanno Khan´s teacher made her stand in the baking New Delhi sun, after which she got a bloody nose and fainted. Khan slipped into a coma after being taken to the hospital and died on Friday, AFP reported. The teacher and school principal have been suspended, and criminal charges are pending after the autopsy results are released, according to local media reports. While corporal punishment is illegal in India, it is not unusual for teachers to physically abuse students.
Daydreamer made the Most Active Users´ Board - Tebrikler DD!
Cheers Trudy told me about that hahahaha...it wasn´t that hard - just 4 year-long membership and most of the competition recently deleting their accounts
An American woman has won her legal battle to ´harvest´ sperm from her dead fiance so she can have a child by him.
Gisela Marrero´s fiance Johnny Quintana died last Thursday when he suffered a heart attack at the age of 31.
Because the couple were not married, Miss Marrero, from the Bronx in New York, had to seek permission from the courts for her fiance´s sperm to be harvested.
After hearing Miss Marrero´s plea, a judge in New York then granted a court order giving her permission to harvest her dead lover´s sperm so that she can still have the second child they both wanted.
The Bronx judge said "yes" on Friday with only four hours left until the deadline.
Hmmm Not sure how I feel about this one.......... It is very very sad that she lost her fiance in such a tragic and prematurely way..... and I think I understand her need to have this child but to purposely bring a child into the world without a father and to take the sperm after his death with only her word on what his wishes might of or might not have been and the fact that she may be in severe shock due to her grief ....... I´m not sure I would have had the same clarity of thought to be able to take this action and make it stand up in a court of law
An American woman has won her legal battle to ´harvest´ sperm from her dead fiance so she can have a child by him.
Gisela Marrero´s fiance Johnny Quintana died last Thursday when he suffered a heart attack at the age of 31.
Because the couple were not married, Miss Marrero, from the Bronx in New York, had to seek permission from the courts for her fiance´s sperm to be harvested.
After hearing Miss Marrero´s plea, a judge in New York then granted a court order giving her permission to harvest her dead lover´s sperm so that she can still have the second child they both wanted.
The Bronx judge said "yes" on Friday with only four hours left until the deadline.
Hmmm Not sure how I feel about this one.......... It is very very sad that she lost her fiance in such a tragic and prematurely way..... and I think I understand her need to have this child but to purposely bring a child into the world without a father and to take the sperm after his death with only her word on what his wishes might of or might not have been and the fact that she may be in severe shock due to her grief ....... I´m not sure I would have had the same clarity of thought to be able to take this action and make it stand up in a court of law
Glad I am not the only one who thinks like this! I think it would have been the last thing on my mind at a time like that ...........
Cheers Trudy told me about that hahahaha...it wasn´t that hard - just 4 year-long membership and most of the competition recently deleting their accounts
Just remember it´s quality not quantity that´s important!
Glad I am not the only one who thinks like this! I think it would have been the last thing on my mind at a time like that ...........
Sounds really creepy to me! I understand people wanting something living after a loved one departs, but I also wonder about the general health of the harvest...so to speak.
Cheers Trudy told me about that hahahaha...it wasn´t that hard - just 4 year-long membership and most of the competition recently deleting their accounts
Although, we have not always agreed....I must say most of your posts are thoughtful, substanstive and meaningful, unlike a lot of "me too" type posts that have boosted stats of some.
A controversial fertility doctor claimed yesterday to have cloned 14 human embryos and transferred 11 of them into the wombs of four women who had been prepared to give birth to cloned babies.
The cloning was recorded by an independent documentary film-maker who has testified to The Independent that the cloning had taken place and that the women were genuinely hoping to become pregnant with the first cloned embryos specifically created for the purposes of human reproduction.
Panayiotis Zavos has broken the ultimate taboo of transferring cloned embryos into the human womb, a procedure that is a criminal offence in Britain and illegal in many other countries. He carried out the work at a secret lab-oratory, probably located in the Middle East where there is no cloning ban. Dr Zavos, a naturalised American, also has fertility clinics in Kentucky and Cyprus, where he was born. His patients – three married couples and a single woman – came from Britain, the United States and an unspecified country in the Middle East.
A controversial fertility doctor claimed yesterday to have cloned 14 human embryos and transferred 11 of them into the wombs of four women who had been prepared to give birth to cloned babies.
The cloning was recorded by an independent documentary film-maker who has testified to The Independent that the cloning had taken place and that the women were genuinely hoping to become pregnant with the first cloned embryos specifically created for the purposes of human reproduction.
Panayiotis Zavos has broken the ultimate taboo of transferring cloned embryos into the human womb, a procedure that is a criminal offence in Britain and illegal in many other countries. He carried out the work at a secret lab-oratory, probably located in the Middle East where there is no cloning ban. Dr Zavos, a naturalised American, also has fertility clinics in Kentucky and Cyprus, where he was born. His patients – three married couples and a single woman – came from Britain, the United States and an unspecified country in the Middle East.
The Republic of Kazakhstan in Central Asia is in the process of building the world’s first alien embassy according to some local media reports. If these reports are to be believed, the authorities have already allocated a large plot of land in the city of Almaty for this ambitious project. Facilities to be built within the complex will include a guesthouse, theatre and translation service. A purpose built UFO landing pad and checkpoint will be attached to the embassy.
Kazakhstan’s government believes open contact with aliens is imminent ........
10 year old girl suffers 70% burns after spending 16 minutes on a sunbed, in a salon of unmanned sunbeds. You just pump in your money lie on the sunbed and pull down the lid and bingo !
I find in incomprehensible that she was able to do this and whats more, able to venture into town age 10 years old.
3 translation requests (each from a different member) to do with Shakespeare´s ´Hamlet´ - are dudus becoming more intellectual or is this a move away from the norm??
3 translation requests (each from a different member) to do with Shakespeare´s ´Hamlet´ - are dudus becoming more intellectual or is this a move away from the norm??
Pay by the pound (and that is how much you weigh) Uhmmm I have my opinions on this and I don´t intend sharing but perhaps it was inevitable!!!
Will they refund the difference if you use their paid toilet during the flight and in effect weigh slightly less than before?
That reminds me of an old Polish comedy where people returning from abroad were put on scales upon their arrival in Poland. If you lost weigh during your stay abroad you had to pay for the difference as "5 kilograms of a citizen has returned" Charges were higher for citizens with tertiary education
Seriously, one could suspect Ryanair to be a Scottish airline (no offence bydand!)
Ok, I have an obsession with vintage items and love to support those who make handmade things. I frequently shop etsy.com which if you have never been on this site, I encourage you too. They just don´t sell anything like ebay, but items that are either handmade or items that are 20 years plus. Such creative people from all of the world. Yesterday, as I was doing my daily browsing low and behold came accross this article. Remarkable and such talented woman! I may just have to order something.
Ok, I have an obsession with vintage items and love to support those who make handmade things. I frequently shop etsy.com which if you have never been on this site, I encourage you too. They just don´t sell anything like ebay, but items that are either handmade or items that are 20 years plus. Such creative people from all of the world. Yesterday, as I was doing my daily browsing low and behold came accross this article. Remarkable and such talented woman! I may just have to order something.
Wang Guiying is a 107-year-old Chinese woman who takes things very slowly… even love.
Wang Guiying was born in southern Guizhou province, the child of a salt merchant. She grew up watching her uncles and other men scold and beat their wives and this made her fear marriage.
After Wang’s father, mother and older sister died, she still shied away from marriage and moved to the countryside where she survived as a farmer until she was 74 years old and no longer strong enough to work in the fields.
Now Wang has decided that it’s time to forget the past and take the bull by the horns, so to speak. She told the press that she hopes to find a fellow centenarian so they will have something to talk about.
She came to her decision because she was worried that she had become a burden to her aging nieces and nephews, especially since she was forced to stop helping with household chores since breaking her leg when she was 102.
“My nephews and nieces are getting older and their children are already tied up with their own families and I am becoming more and more of a burden. I’m already 107 and I still haven’t gotten married. What will happen if I don’t hurry up and find a husband?”
Pope gunman wants to be Christian The gunman who shot Pope John Paul II says he would like to convert to Christianity at a baptism ceremony at the Vatican after his release from prison in January. In comments relayed by his lawyer on Wednesday, Mehmet Ali Aðca also says he wants to visit the grave of Pope John Paul II, meet with Pope Benedict XVI. Aðca shot and seriously wounded John Paul on May 13, 1981. The late pope met with Aðca in an Italian prison in 1983 and forgave him for the shooting. Aðca served 19 years in an Italian prison for the attack and is currently serving a prison term in Turkey for killing journalist Abdi Ãpekçi. He is due to be released from Sincan Prison, near Ankara , on Jan. 18, 2010.
He also wants to marry an Italian woman and full redemption from his past sins. He became famous after he shot Pope Jean Paul II, Pope recovered and forgave him (God knows why). Nevertheless, he had already killed a prominent Turkish journalist earlier on. He served time in Turkey and Italy and fled from prison when he was in Turkey. In his confession, he said he was a pawn, nobody knows what his real motives were. The fact that he has revealed so little despite talking all that much is a tell tale sign of his possible connection with global terrorist organizations (or countries controlling these sorts of activities).
This guy stole other people´s lives from them and their families. He has not had much of a life of his own either. Most of his life was spent as a prisoner in an isolated cell. It is very likely that he has become a different creature than how he was when he entered prison. He must have lost his contact with his roots, with reality, and with the daily flow of life. It is quite possible that the only person to forgive him unconditionally was Pope Jean Paul. By converting to his religion, he thinks he is redeeming himself from his past sins.
He did not manage to kill Pope but he left the wife and daughter of Ipekci without a husband and father. Will they excuse him? I don´t think so. In their eyes, he is still the same guy who murdered their father who had no way to defend himself.
Pope gunman wants to be Christian The gunman who shot Pope John Paul II says he would like to convert to Christianity at a baptism ceremony at the Vatican after his release from prison in January. In comments relayed by his lawyer on Wednesday, Mehmet Ali Aðca also says he wants to visit the grave of Pope John Paul II, meet with Pope Benedict XVI. Aðca shot and seriously wounded John Paul on May 13, 1981. The late pope met with Aðca in an Italian prison in 1983 and forgave him for the shooting. Aðca served 19 years in an Italian prison for the attack and is currently serving a prison term in Turkey for killing journalist Abdi Ãpekçi. He is due to be released from Sincan Prison, near Ankara , on Jan. 18, 2010.
How many people does this guy have to kill/attempt to kill before the court systems realize he is a danger to society. I can understand forgiving him (sort of) but releasing this repeat violent offender.....it just makes me wonder. It isn´t exactly like he stole a loaf of bread!
He also wants to marry an Italian woman and full redemption from his past sins. He became famous after he shot Pope Jean Paul II, Pope recovered and forgave him (God knows why). Nevertheless, he had already killed a prominent Turkish journalist earlier on. He served time in Turkey and Italy and fled from prison when he was in Turkey. In his confession, he said he was a pawn, nobody knows what his real motives were. The fact that he has revealed so little despite talking all that much is a tell tale sign of his possible connection with global terrorist organizations (or countries controlling these sorts of activities).
This guy stole other people´s lives from them and their families. He has not had much of a life of his own either. Most of his life was spent as a prisoner in an isolated cell. It is very likely that he has become a different creature than how he was when he entered prison. He must have lost his contact with his roots, with reality, and with the daily flow of life. It is quite possible that the only person to forgive him unconditionally was Pope Jean Paul. By converting to his religion, he thinks he is redeeming himself from his past sins.
He did not manage to kill Pope but he left the wife and daughter of Ipekci without a husband and father. Will they excuse him? I don´t think so. In their eyes, he is still the same guy who murdered their father who had no way to defend himself.
Interesting...I wonder just how much he actually knows about Christianity, or Roman Catholic branch of it?
It seems he wants absolution....and seeks to be baptised in the Roman Catholic church. If he actually believes this, he must be tortured now, as he has no way to insure his sins to be forgiven without these conditions being fulfilled. Many in this believe system believe their souls will wander for eternity in limbo unless they are baptised, take the Eucharist and perform the penance given them by the priest.
A man who tried to hire a prostitute to take his 14-year-old son´s virginity as a present was spared jail by a court on Friday.
The Polish national took the boy out in his car and allowed him to pick out the prostitute, who was standing at the side of the road in the red-light district of Nottingham.
But the 42-year-old father was arrested because the teenager had chosen an undercover police officer, Nottingham Crown Court heard.
The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was handed a 10-month prison sentence, suspended for a year, after he admitted a charge of trying to solicit a woman to have sex with a child, the Press Association reported.
The court heard that the father, who came to Britain eight years ago, was arrested last July during an undercover operation by the city´s vice squad.
Prosecutor Adrian Harris said the man and his son had approached the undercover officer whose code name was Sarah and beckoned her over .
He asked "Sarah" how much it would cost for her to have sex with his son and they agreed on a 20 pound fee. However, when the car pulled over, the man was arrested by plainclothes police officers.
"The boy said that they had driven past the girl and his dad pointed to her and said ´will she do?´" Harris said.
"He said ´yes´ and they had turned round. He said his dad did this because he was still a virgin and he was taking care of that for him."
Judge Jonathan Teare said he would spare the father jail because of his excellent character and that he believed he did not mean any harm to his son.
"You have a duty of care to your son and that is to look after his moral welfare, not as you might think to break him in to the ways of sex through a prostitute," he said.
The court was told the boy would continue to live with his father.
Has your love affair ever caught you out? Well it did for this women, she managed to conceive twins by two different fathers.......... now try explaing that one away
Has your love affair ever caught you out? Well it did for this women, she managed to conceive twins by two different fathers.......... now try explaing that one away
Then there is another issue. What about the other father? Nobody mentioned the child´s right to his biological father or that father´s right to his child.
Then there is another issue. What about the other father? Nobody mentioned the child´s right to his biological father or that father´s right to his child.
Perhaps she does not know who the "other" father is.............. those poor twins don´t know exactly who their father is.
The little mouse my cat brought in this morning, cowering in the corner........ so 7:00am I was trying to catch the mouse before the cat killed it. Mission accomplished and mouse is free
The little mouse my cat brought in this morning, cowering in the corner........ so 7:00am I was trying to catch the mouse before the cat killed it. Mission accomplished and mouse is free
I had cat #1 for years. Never in the time I had him was any mouse ever heard of or seen. I then brought in another young cat. I had no idea there were any mice around until cat #2 came in. He was amazing. It was like he could charm mice out of the walls. His ears would perk up and he would stand in the middle of the room like in a trance. One time he got one that screamed. It was really quite upsetting. We love out cats, but it is upsetting when they do their "thing".
It´s difficult to watch cats and mice, but that´s nature. Too many mice can be a real problem. Then you could join this rat and mouse rescue organization.
I released about 1,500 ladybugs in my garden the other night in order to control aphid infestation. They were released with great care to follow the instructions. The last couple of mornings there have been a lot of birds in my garden.....the cycle of life goes on.
I released about 1,500 ladybugs in my garden the other night in order to control aphid infestation. They were released with great care to follow the instructions. The last couple of mornings there have been a lot of birds in my garden.....the cycle of life goes on.
Where did you get the ladybirds from? Does someone breed them?
Where did you get the ladybirds from? Does someone breed them?
Ladybugs...not ladybirds....you can buy them in nurseries here...or mail order them. I also got some trichogramma and lacewing eggs....and a worm composter. As you have probably guessed, I´m doing it the "natural" way.
Ha ha ha....so you call them ladybirds....that was President Johnson´s wife´s nick name. She only recently passed away. She was famous for saving wildflowers.
Nice idea but would it work? I could never abandon my family so I would have to say no I would not do that!!! But............. if I was single and had no ties, you would find me in Thailand, sunning myself on the beach thinking about how big a boat I should buy............
A lot of ladybirds indicate a long hot summer - as of 1975 and 1976 (in the UK). In 1975 there were swarms of ladybirds because of the increase in temperature and large numbers of aphids for them to munch on!
I keep looking out for lots of ladybirds as we are supposed to be getting heat wave this summer............
Actually, here are some amazing facts about ladybirds
Edited (5/22/2009) by libralady
[Added amazing facts about wonderful little creatures]
A lot of ladybirds indicate a long hot summer - as of 1975 and 1976 (in the UK). In 1975 there were swarms of ladybirds because of the increase in temperature and large numbers of aphids for them to munch on!
I keep looking out for lots of ladybirds as we are supposed to be getting heat wave this summer............
Actually, here are some amazing facts about ladybirds
I loved their children´s books...and so did my children! (comment for evil Brits only as probably means nothing to bed amrikans )
I thought ladybug was an American term for ladybird...what´s the difference?
You are right.....it seems they are sort of the same thing.
I guess you have to be careful when you get them. Most Americans would only call them ladybugs when they are a specific type.
"Ladybugs are also called lady beetles or, in Europe, ladybird beetles. There are about 5,000 different species of these insects, and not all of them have the same appetites. A few ladybugs prey not on plant-eaters but on plants. The Mexican bean beetle and the squash beetle are destructive pests that prey upon the crops mentioned in their names."
It´s not in my Redhouse as such, but I was told that one of the Turkish names for ladybug is lucky bug.
I was talking with some friends in eastern Turkey when I spotted a ladybug on a concrete walkway where it was in danger of being stepped on. I got it to crawl onto my hand and put it in some bushes. My friends (most of whom spoke little English) seemed to respect this quite a bit and one of them told me that it´s name was lucky bug and it was good that I had rescued it.
They wanted to tell me more but we couldn´t communicate well enough to share further details.
It´s not in my Redhouse as such, but I was told that one of the Turkish names for ladybug is lucky bug.
I was talking with some friends in eastern Turkey when I spotted a ladybug on a concrete walkway where it was in danger of being stepped on. I got it to crawl onto my hand and put it in some bushes. My friends (most of whom spoke little English) seemed to respect this quite a bit and one of them told me that it´s name was lucky bug and it was good that I had rescued it.
They wanted to tell me more but we couldn´t communicate well enough to share further details.
Nice...there is a tale here that they bring good luck if you hold them in your hand, tell them a wish & let them free, your wish has a very good chance of being granted.
I found these ladybug legends here....this site has some amazing photos!
HOW THE LADYBUG GOT ITS NAME:
Legends vary about how the Ladybug came to be named, but the most common (and enduring) is this: In Europe, during the Middle Ages, swarms of insects were destroying the crops. The farmers prayed to the Virgin Mary for help. Soon thereafter the Ladybugs came, devouring the plant-destroying pests and saving the crops! The farmers called these beautiful insects "The Beetles of Our Lady", and - over time - they eventually became popularly known as "Lady Beetles". The red wings were said to represent the Virgin´s cloak and the black spots were symbolic of both her joys and her sorrows.
LADYBUG LEGENDS:
Nearly ALL cultures believe that a Ladybug is lucky. Killing one is said to bring sadness and misfortune.
In France, if a Ladybug landed on you, whatever ailment you had would fly away with the Ladybug.
If a Ladybug is held in the hand while making a wish, the direction that it flies away to shows where your luck will come from.
If the spots on the wings of a Ladybug are more than seven, it´s a sign of coming famine. If less than seven, it means you will have a good harvest.
In Belgium, people believed that if a Ladybug crawled across a young girl´s hand, she would be married within a year.
People in Switzerland told their young children that they were brought to them, as babies, by Ladybugs. ...and we thought Storks did that)!
In some Asian cultures, it is believed that the Ladybug understands human language, and has been blessed by God, Himself.
In Brussels, the black spots on the back of a Ladybug indicate to the person holding it how many children he/she will have.
According to a Norse legend, the Ladybug came to earth riding on a bolt of lightning.
The Victorians in Britain believed that if a Ladybug alighted on your hand, you would be receiving new gloves.....if it landed on your head, a new hat would be in your future, and so on.
In the 1800´s, some doctors used Ladybugs to treat measles! They also believed that if you mashed ladybugs (ewww!) and put them into a cavity, the insects would stop a toothache!
During the Pioneer days, if a family found a Ladybug in their log cabin during the winter, it was considered a "Good Omen".
In the Spring, if numerous Ladybugs are seen flying around, British farmers say it forecasts many bountiful crops.
Many Bretons believe that the arrival of Ladybugs will bring fair weather.
Folklore suggests if you catch a Ladybug in your home, count the number of spots and that´s how many dollars you´ll soon find.
In Norway, if a man and a woman spot a Ladybug at the same time, there will be a romance between them.
It´s not in my Redhouse as such, but I was told that one of the Turkish names for ladybug is lucky bug.
I was talking with some friends in eastern Turkey when I spotted a ladybug on a concrete walkway where it was in danger of being stepped on. I got it to crawl onto my hand and put it in some bushes. My friends (most of whom spoke little English) seemed to respect this quite a bit and one of them told me that it´s name was lucky bug and it was good that I had rescued it.
They wanted to tell me more but we couldn´t communicate well enough to share further details.
In Poland children usually put ladybirds on their hands and while releasing them to fly they say this rhyme:
Biedroneczko, leć do nieba
Przynieś mi kawałek chleba
which translates as "Little ladybird fly to the sky, bring me back a piece of bread"
The similar thing in Serbia, but children say:
Let, let, bubamaro,
donesi mi goste!
which means "Fly, fly, ladybird, bring me back a guest!"
right,ladybirds have a special charisma in Slavic nations..but we also say guest and fish stink after 3 days which is so similar to Turkish saying..anyway<personally I prefer ladybirds than invasion of unexpected guests)
right,ladybirds have a special charisma in Slavic nations..but we also say guest and fish stink after 3 days which is so similar to Turkish saying..anyway<personally I prefer ladybirds than invasion of unexpected guests)
Yes, it´s tragic the art of being a good guest is not taught. Most the time it´s too quickly improvised.
Ok, and being an admin it is your task to tell us all what that reason is.... (I guess you´ll have that text translated within an hour or so? <whistle> )
Ok, and being an admin it is your task to tell us all what that reason is.... (I guess you´ll have that text translated within an hour or so? <whistle> )
A three-year-old girl shot her two-year-old brother dead after finding a gun hidden under a mattress. Skip related content
The accidental shooting took place on Wednesday afternoon in Bakersfield, California. The boy was rushed to a nearby hospital but died of a wound to his chest.
Under state law, the parents of the dead infant could be prosecuted for not ensuring that the firearm was stored where it could not be accessed by their children.
An investigation concluded that the girl had taken the gun - a .45 calibre semiautomatic handgun - from her parents´ bedroom, where it had been stuffed underneath the mattress.
The children´s mother was at home at the time of the incident but was in another part of the house, while her husband was at work.
Sgt Greg Terry of Bakersfield Police said: "It appears to be a horrible accident - I cannot imagine what the family is going through."
Under Californian law, all gun owners must ensure that their weapons are stored in a way so that children cannot access them. A police investigation is under way
The presence of guns just breeds violence even in this ´innocent´ tragic event
That´s awful, too often are parents irresponsible and leave children unattended. just think about Tyson´s daughter. Teas will probably bash me for that but I think the right to bear arms should be abolished.
That´s awful, too often are parents irresponsible and leave children unattended. just think about Tyson´s daughter. Teas will probably bash me for that but I think the right to bear arms should be abolished.
Quoting lessluv
Toddler shoots brother dead
I couldn´t agree more, but all it does is send it underground - those who want guns will always get them.
Teas will probably bash me for that but I think the right to bear arms should be abolished.
No bashing... I can respect your opinion on the matter. I tend to think these parents should be punished, however with that being said I don´t know what punishment could be worse than loosing a child.
If you have ever felt your life threatened or feared your saftey, you may think differently about the right to own a gun or maybe not. There are so many carefless acts of recklessness that if people used them and stored them properly you wouldnt have so many fatalities. I t´s like driving your vehicle and causing a fatal accident. All the deaths that occur out of random acts of stupidity by humans.
A man with terminal cancer is set to win thousands of pounds after betting he would not die before June.
Jon Matthews will collect £5,000 from bookmakers tomorrow after beating the odds of surviving.
The 59-year-old was diagnosed with a cancer linked to asbestos, called mesothelioma, in 2006
He scooped £5,000 on June 1 2008 after placing a bet with William Hill that he would not be dead.
He made a further wager that he would live beyond June 1 this year.
Mr Matthews, from Milton Keynes, said: "I think I´m the first person in the world to bet on my own life."
The widower was told by Harefield Hospital in Middlesex their longest surviving patient with mesothelioma lasted 25 months after diagnosis.
Mr Matthews has had the cancer for 38 months.
"When I was diagnosed I was told mesothelioma was a death sentence," he said.
"I wasn´t that fussed because everyone has to die some time.
But the interesting thing for me was how long it would take, would it take weeks or years," he explained.
If he survives until June 2010 he is in line for £10,000 more after placing another bet.
He plans to donate most of his winnings to cancer charities.
"Never in 30 years in the business have I been so pleased to pay a winning client £10,000, with, I trust, a further £10,000 to come next year," William Hill spokesman Graham Sharpe said.
Good on him!!! new meaning to the saying ......bet your life on it!!
Baby dies after nearly being buried alive A newborn boy who had been pronounced dead by a hospital in the western province of Balýkesir barely escaped being buried alive after his mother noticed that he was breathing. The baby, however, lost his life five hours after he was hospitalized again. One of Hatice Bölme´s twin boys, which she conceived through in vitro fertilization after a nine years of fertility treatments, died immediately after he was born at the Balýkesir Maternity Hospital last week. The other baby, named Halil, who had been placed in an incubator, was pronounced dead 36 hours after his birth. Notified about the death of his son, Hüseyin Bölme said: “I went to the hospital and received my son´s death certificate. They handed me the baby´s body in a paper box. It was 2 p.m. when I got the body of my son from the hospital, and it was 4 p.m. when I arrived home after buying the necessary things for the funeral. My wife wanted to see our baby and when she looked at him, she noticed that he was breathing. We immediately took him to a nearby hospital. After two hours of treatment there, we took him to Bursa in an ambulance. The doctor there told me that our baby´s lungs were damaged because he could not breathe properly outside the incubator. He said he would do his best to save our baby´s life but we lost him in the end.”
Bölme said he would file a criminal complaint against the hospital that pronounced his son dead while he was still alive. “If we had not noticed it, we would have buried him alive,” he said. The Health Ministry has launched an investigation into the incident.
Source: Zaman, 1/6/9
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A tragedy for the parents, an enormous mistake of the hospital.
Susan Boyle stirred a lot of controversy in the UK because she is too unattractive to have a beautiful voice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvBkTmDWBA
The sicko media culture managed to convince everybody that only porn star-looking people are successful or talented!
so sad what happened last night. nothing can prepare a soul for the pressure of being thrust into the spotlight....get well soon....hope she is able to return to a ´normal´ life
so sad what happened last night. nothing can prepare a soul for the pressure of being thrust into the spotlight....get well soon....hope she is able to return to a ´normal´ life
I´m sure she´ll be just fine. Although if she was a man, she wouldn´t have to deal with any of the pressure she has as a woman....
I´m sure she´ll be just fine. Although if she was a man, she wouldn´t have to deal with any of the pressure she has as a woman....
I think in this field, a man is just as open to the same pressures......if you don´t fit a certain profile you just won´t make it...a male example of this pop idol (uk´s) Rick Waller absolutely amazing voice but weighing in at 20 stone plus would never been allowed in our society to have the success of his slimmer, more attractive conterparts.
(funnily enough I am struggling to find any you tubes with and example of his voice!!!)
I think in this field, a man is just as open to the same pressures......if you don´t fit a certain profile you just won´t make it...a male example of this pop idol (uk´s) Rick Waller absolutely amazing voice but weighing in at 20 stone plus would never been allowed in our society to have the success of his slimmer, more attractive conterparts.
(funnily enough I am struggling to find any you tubes with and example of his voice!!!)
That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!
That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!
rick waller....the best vocal
the winner if this particular competition....Gareth Gates
Add on:ooops garth didn´t actually win this one but the only one who is still in public eye now
the winner....will young
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That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!
If I recall correctly the guy who won Britan´s Got Talent last year (or the year before?) was overweight with bad teeth and he received about the same reaction that Susan Boyle got when she walked on stage. Neither were taken seriously until they sang.
That´s not what I heard today on the BBC! Supposedly there was an overweight unattractive guy who won, without much debate about his looks vs talent, then he was acting out in various ways, without much ado about it... now has a successful career!
Paul Potts and he had his teeth done straight after! But he got the same response as Susan Boyle to begin with. It is just unfortunate for her that she was hounded and gowded by journalists until she cracked.
A grieving couple who jumped to their deaths off cliffs at Beachy Head with the body of their dead son were dedicated parents who lived for their boy, friends say.
The victims have been named as Neil Puttick, 34, his Japanese wife Kazumi, 44, and son Samuel, aged five, of Westbury, Wiltshire.
Mr and Mrs Puttick jumped off the cliffs with two rucksacks, one containing Samuel´s body and the other carrying toys.
All three bodies were found about 400ft down the notorious suicide spot, near Eastbourne, East Sussex, on Sunday evening.
The child died on Friday evening after being discharged from hospital, where he had been treated for meningitis.
His parents had asked for him to be allowed to come home to die after doctors told them he would not recover from the illness.
Samuel was confined to a wheelchair following a car crash when he was 18-months-old and his parents looked after him with the help of nurses and carers. He was taken ill with meningitis a week ago.
Neighbour and friend Sue Capon, who owns Brokerswood Country Park opposite the Putticks´ home, said: "We are all absolutely devastated.
"It was such a shock today, they were the most dedicated parents you could wish to meet.
"Sam was adorable, a delight and I feel privileged to have been close to him during his short life.
"He never complained, he was always happy and full of smiles. He loved tractors and the chickens.
I feel the same i could never understand people resorting to suicide, but I think I can understand those parents I get aheart attack every time my little one sneezes. I can´t even imagine their grief...life´s cruel
(btw, isn´t meningitis vaccination a standard one in the UK? Here HSE covers 6in1 + meningitis + pneumococcal vaccines)
I feel the same i could never understand people resorting to suicide, but I think I can understand those parents I get aheart attack every time my little one sneezes. I can´t even imagine their grief...life´s cruel
(btw, isn´t meningitis vaccination a standard one in the UK? Here HSE covers 6in1 + meningitis + pneumococcal vaccines)
I think there is a meningitis vaccination but not sure when they get it. But the child was already a quadraplegic so very unwell anyway. It is one of the sadest stories I have heard lately and I also feel very sorry for those who have to deal with the aftermath of such a tragic event.
Driving in to Leicester yesterday I saw the Google Street car (or one of them) . Most peculiar thing perched on top of the car.
Have you been Google Street filmed yet? (in the UK)
Well, not in the UK, but here in the US some are not exactly happy having their homes in Google Street. There are security concerns. It really is amazing how much detail it shows...what is in your window, your doors....and so on. I think a challange is in the works.
Google maps are photographing cities and towns in the UK by driving down the street with a strange camera on the roof of the car. There has been some problems with it as people have been spotted where they shouldn´t be!!! The say it is a breach of their privacy.... well it is really and it is a great time waster to, going down a street vitually... So if you click on google maps and then choose the street version you can see what it looks like exactly. Try Westminster !
Google maps are photographing cities and towns in the UK by driving down the street with a strange camera on the roof of the car. There has been some problems with it as people have been spotted where they shouldn´t be!!! The say it is a breach of their privacy.... well it is really and it is a great time waster to, going down a street vitually... So if you click on google maps and then choose the street version you can see what it looks like exactly. Try Westminster !
Well, there are so many other examples to breaches in people´s privacy. Some of the paparazis could pretty well be in jail if they did not hide behind certain so-called freedoms. The tragic death of Princess Diana is one such example. I know some celebreties are voluntarily giving out their make believe personal secrets to those sharks but as a whole to what extend the whole paparazzi business must be considered in the framework of people´s right to be informed is a question mark.
As for Google publishing photographs of streets, there seems to be no legal restrictions applying here. It is perfectly legal to take pictures of people in their natural environments. Otherwise, neither movies nor documentaries could be shot since common people are invariably pictured while they are doing their daily tasks. It is indeed bad luck for a married person to be pictured say with his girl friend in a box office smash hit. Whether it would be a spoiler or a a revelation is another subject.
Well, there are so many other examples to breaches in people´s privacy. Some of the paparazis could pretty well be in jail if they did not hide behind certain so-called freedoms. The tragic death of Princess Diana is one such example. I know some celebreties are voluntarily giving out their make believe personal secrets to those sharks but as a whole to what extend the whole paparazzi business must be considered in the framework of people´s right to be informed is a question mark.
As for Google publishing photographs of streets, there seems to be no legal restrictions applying here. It is perfectly legal to take pictures of people in their natural environments. Otherwise, neither movies nor documentaries could be shot since common people are invariably pictured while they are doing their daily tasks. It is indeed bad luck for a married person to be pictured say with his girl friend in a box office smash hit. Whether it would be a spoiler or a a revelation is another subject.
I think some of those paoarazis should be in jail for harassment. Can anyone who is not a subject of their "hunt" imagine how victimized someone like Diana was?
Good points, it is an interesting prospect. With Google you can put in an address and take a look at it, zoom in, get different views from other angles. It certainly facilitates stalking. I can attest to the fact that Google´s actual address information is not correct, as I checked a few places I know and they had it off....close...but off.
I know people who had high fences to keep viewers out, but with Google Street View, you can get a view through the fence via a few small spaces. Maybe people will start building more effective fences....and start wearing chadors....
Ok, I put my address in but it just shows a satelite picture of my house from when it was built a few years ago. I zoomed in on my street, but you couldn´t make anything out really. How disappointing.. I must live in a boring neighborhood..
Ok, I put my address in but it just shows a satelite picture of my house from when it was built a few years ago. I zoomed in on my street, but you couldn´t make anything out really. How disappointing.. I must live in a boring neighborhood..
It´s a new project, and they have not done everything yet. Here put in this address: 48 Commerce St, NYC, NY. It´s not my address, nor do I know anyone there. I was just playing around in my old neighborhood.
First you will get a map, then there will be a Street View option. You can move the little person all around and zoom in. It´s pretty interesting actually. You can move along the street.
Play with it, it´s fun. Every address doesn´t have the zoom option. Some do, and you can zoom right into the windows, read signs and such.
"LEAFLET DISTRIBUTION PUNISHMENT IS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN A FINE" Aslihan Limon, the only judge in Arac town of the northern province of Kastamonu, still receives congratulations from across Turkey after she sentenced a man for distributing leaflets that read, "I apologize to my wife and all the residents of Arac for beating my wife." The 28-year-old judge said she protected the honor of women, adding, "I think this punishment is more effective than a fine."
Man sentenced to give wife flowers for five months.
A man who reportedly beat his wife was sentenced by a Diyarbakýr court to give flowers to his wife once a week for five months. The Diyarbakýr First Criminal Court of First Instance ruled that Hayrettin Çetintaþ must present his wife with a bouquet of flowers once a week for five months. Çetintaþ´s wife filed a lawsuit against her husband complaining he frequently beat her, according to the Anatolia news agency.
During Saturday´s hearing, Çetintaþ defended himself, saying that he beat his wife because she was not very helpful with daily tasks. He also said he had a second wife, who he married through a religious marriage (imam nikahý). “I have not been married to my second wife for long. In the family, we sometimes have problems. I don´t know whether it is because I am newly married; my second wife is a very easygoing person. My first wife, however, aggravates me so much. I am working as a doorman, and I get very tired during the day. I ask my wives to help me, but my first wife demands too many things from me: She asks me to rent her a new house. I may have been violent to my first wife and son,” Çetintaþ stated.
The judge asked Çetintaþ whether he had ever presented flowers to his wife, a question to which he replied: “I don´t know the birthday of my first wife or when we got married. I´ve never given flowers to her, either.” On hearing this, the judge ordered Çetintaþ to give a bouquet of flowers to his first wife once a week for five months. He also ordered the defendant to read five books on child development in five months, for beating his son.
Man sentenced to give wife flowers for five months.
A man who reportedly beat his wife was sentenced by a Diyarbakýr court to give flowers to his wife once a week for five months. The Diyarbakýr First Criminal Court of First Instance ruled that Hayrettin Çetintaþ must present his wife with a bouquet of flowers once a week for five months. Çetintaþ´s wife filed a lawsuit against her husband complaining he frequently beat her, according to the Anatolia news agency.
During Saturday´s hearing, Çetintaþ defended himself, saying that he beat his wife because she was not very helpful with daily tasks. He also said he had a second wife, who he married through a religious marriage (imam nikahý. “I have not been married to my second wife for long. In the family, we sometimes have problems. I don´t know whether it is because I am newly married; my second wife is a very easygoing person. My first wife, however, aggravates me so much. I am working as a doorman, and I get very tired during the day. I ask my wives to help me, but my first wife demands too many things from me: She asks me to rent her a new house. I may have been violent to my first wife and son,” Çetintaþ stated.
The judge asked Çetintaþ whether he had ever presented flowers to his wife, a question to which he replied: “I don´t know the birthday of my first wife or when we got married. I´ve never given flowers to her, either.” On hearing this, the judge ordered Çetintaþ to give a bouquet of flowers to his first wife once a week for five months. He also ordered the defendant to read five books on child development in five months, for beating his son.
Nice try from this judge, but will it work? I doubt it. A guy stupid enough to beat his wife and kid will remain stupid!
So he beats his wife and children and has to pay restitution by sending flowers and reading books.. I´m sure this method will definately deter him from committing the same acts.
Man sentenced to give wife flowers for five months.
Nice try from this judge, but will it work? I doubt it. A guy stupid enough to beat his wife and kid will remain stupid!
Hell NO it won´t work! That judge should be beaten and then maybe he will rethink the so-called punishment he gives to low-life, scum bags who beat women and children.
Little Known Fact The Turks first gave the Dutch their famous tulips that started the craze for the flower in England and the Netherlands. The bulbs were brought to Vienna from Istanbul in the 1500s and they were an instance hit.
Chris Brown pleads guilty on assualt charges...but gets 180 days of garbage picking. Sometimes or should I say most of the time I wonder about our court system. I sit here and criticize the Turkish courts when it comes to men beating their wives. However, it appears our courts are not much better.
I don´t understand how someone can beat a women and threaten to kill her, then get sentensed to 180 days of community service. While we have non violent offenders (drug users) in prison. Where is the commen sense in our courts. An even worse slap in the face, is that a female judge accepted this plea bargain.
Chris Brown pleads guilty on assualt charges...but gets 180 days of garbage picking. Sometimes or should I say most of the time I wonder about our court system. I sit here and criticize the Turkish courts when it comes to men beating their wives. However, it appears our courts are not much better.
I don´t understand how someone can beat a women and threaten to kill her, then get sentensed to 180 days of community service. While we have non violent offenders (drug users) in prison. Where is the commen sense in our courts. An even worse slap in the face, is that a female judge accepted this plea bargain.
what cayght MY eye today was every single status on FB and PM on MSN saying RIP to Michael JAckson- I mean - why are u so sad about the guy- i mean in the end all he was envolved in were scandals and courtrooms! The guy actually kinda disgusted me cause he changed his skin color and all the plastic surgeries and stuff but I mean , people-GET OVER IT!!!!
I dunno-maybe my words wouldve been different if i was growing up in the 80´s :S
what cayght MY eye today was every single status on FB and PM on MSN saying RIP to Michael JAckson- I mean - why are u so sad about the guy- i mean in the end all he was envolved in were scandals and courtrooms! The guy actually kinda disgusted me cause he changed his skin color and all the plastic surgeries and stuff but I mean , people-GET OVER IT!!!!
I dunno-maybe my words wouldve been different if i was growing up in the 80´s :S
Couldn´t agree more. His success made him an insane, stupid, self-centered person. He chose to spend his fortune on getting more freaky instead of helping others. There are people in the world whose deaths are truly sad - like the Palestinian families massacred by the Israelis, but we do not mourn those, instead we mourn a freak who had a life of privilage (for the most part!) and died in the comfort of his home at the age of 50!!
For me, all deaths are sad. Michael Jackson was known by billions of people. Everyone of those people heard his songs in a personal context, voluntarily bought his albums making him a big star and get him to enjoy a rich man´s life which unfortunately had certain mistakes, omissions or sins in it just like everyone of us.
It is easy to give a brief account of someone´s life. Among many gifted musicians of his genre he stood out and remained that way for a long while. Although his songs no longer appeal to me, I appreciate his vocal technique and energy. It is not easy to be like Michael Jackson, people who were a lot more talented than us tried their chance but they could not clinch their names in the history of pop music as successfully as he did.
Not just Michael Jackson, everyone deserves to be felt sorry about when he is dead. The loss of a man is the loss of the entire universe from a dead man´s point of view.
Quoting catwoman
Couldn´t agree more. His success made him an insane, stupid, self-centered person. He chose to spend his fortune on getting more freaky instead of helping others. There are people in the world whose deaths are truly sad - like the Palestinian families massacred by the Israelis, but we do not mourn those, instead we mourn a freak who had a life of privilage (for the most part!) and died in the comfort of his home at the age of 50!!
For me, all deaths are sad. Michael Jackson was known by billions of people. Everyone of those people heard his songs in a personal context, voluntarily bought his albums making him a big star and get him to enjoy a rich man´s life which unfortunately had certain mistakes, omissions or sins in it just like everyone of us.
It is easy to give a brief account of someone´s life. Among many gifted musicians of his genre he stood out and remained that way for a long while. Although his songs no longer appeal to me, I appreciate his vocal technique and energy. It is not easy to be like Michael Jackson, people who were a lot more talented than us tried their chance but they could not clinch their names in the history of pop music as successfully as he did.
Not just Michael Jackson, everyone deserves to be felt sorry about when he is dead. The loss of a man is the loss of the entire universe from a dead man´s point of view.
Quoting catwoman
Couldn´t agree more. His success made him an insane, stupid, self-centered person. He chose to spend his fortune on getting more freaky instead of helping others. There are people in the world whose deaths are truly sad - like the Palestinian families massacred by the Israelis, but we do not mourn those, instead we mourn a freak who had a life of privilage (for the most part!) and died in the comfort of his home at the age of 50!!
wooooooooow...thats so deep or maybe im just shallow-dunno-but i liked it
anyway, the person im truly sorry for is farrah fawcett-really she was so...i dunno.... but u feel peace when u look at her face-and she was so strong and optimistic and died from cancer and...... im really sad she died :S:S
wooooooooow...thats so deep or maybe im just shallow-dunno-but i liked it
anyway, the person im truly sorry for is farrah fawcett-really she was so...i dunno.... but u feel peace when u look at her face-and she was so strong and optimistic and died from cancer and...... im really sad she died :S:S
I also feel sad for Farrah Fawcett, clearly this was not her doing. When you look at people like Jimmy Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson and others who contribute to their own death I think the sympathy is a little different, than someone who like Farrah Fawcett had no control over her destiny. However, it´s still sad to see someone that had an impact on you, musically or personally destory their life and ultimately die because of it.
The saddest part for all of these icons are the people around them who enabled them. Clearly Michael Jackson was not in his right mind and the people around him continued to feed him drugs, instead of getting him the help he needed. Same thing that happened to Elivs Presley and Anna Nicole Smith.
The giant 6ft cow that is as big as a small elephant
His name is Chilli and he´s described as a gentle giant.
Which is just as well for his handler, Tara Nirula, pictured by his side.
His owners have contacted the Guinness Book of Records who are currently assessing his credentials and comparing them to other big bovines.
The black and white Friesian bullock weighs well over a ton and at the same height as a small elephant, casts a shadow over his cattle companions who are about 5ft.
Chilli the giant bullock stands at 6ft 6ins and weighs well over a ton
Despite his grand stature, Chilli only grazes on grass during the day and enjoys the occasional swede as a treat.
The heifer, who is almost as high as he is long, lives at the Ferne Animal Sanctuary in Chard, Somerset, after he was left on their doorstep aged just six-days-old.
Nine years on, Chilli has kept on growing, and staff believe the giant will smash a record for Britain´s tallest ever cow.
Naomi Clarke, manager at the sanctuary, said: "As Chilli was growing up we began noticing that he was bigger than our other cows.
The Dove World Outreach Center in northwest Gainesville posted a sign that says "Islam is of the devil."
Those behind a sign posted in front of their northwest Gainesville church, proclaiming in red letters "Islam is of the devil," say it´s a way to express their religious beliefs and is a message of "a great act of love."
Some living near the Dove World Outreach Center, however, are outraged and disappointed with the sign´s message, which has sparked protests and acts of vandalism at the church since it was posted over the weekend.
What i dont understand how this would be a massage of love and peace as people at the Church claim?!
I am shocked that you seem so surprised! Yes, Canli, most Christians, Jews, PEOPLE, know that hate is wrong. This church´s concept of love and peace is as warped as ANY extremist groups views!
I am shocked that you seem so surprised! Yes, Canli, most Christians, Jews, PEOPLE, know that hate is wrong. This church´s concept of love and peace is as warped as ANY extremist groups views!
No im not surprised because of that..its really a good thing that people can live and are living peacefuly together
What im surprised and shocked at is the Church ...they said they spread love, and they wanted to teach that to people, but seems people are the one who should teach them that and know about peace more than church does !
The Dove World Outreach Center in northwest Gainesville posted a sign that says "Islam is of the devil."
Those behind a sign posted in front of their northwest Gainesville church, proclaiming in red letters "Islam is of the devil," say it´s a way to express their religious beliefs and is a message of "a great act of love."
Some living near the Dove World Outreach Center, however, are outraged and disappointed with the sign´s message, which has sparked protests and acts of vandalism at the church since it was posted over the weekend.
What i dont understand how this would be a massage of love and peace as people at the Church claim?!
Double standards, Canli. You are silent when Islamic hatred is mentioned. I can quote examples of massive islamic demonstrations full of hatred and violence, and I can imagine you defending them. Isn´t Islam supposed to spread peace and love as well? As long as I see double standards like that, I will not sympatize with you (I will still condemn hatred and stupidity, but I am fully aware that it runs among your people very well too). I am not going to sympatize with you until you start treating all people equally -- violence and hatred of muslims against non-muslims is equally wrong as violence and hatred of non-muslims against muslims.
Double standards, Canli. You are silent when Islamic hatred is mentioned. I can quote examples of massive islamic demonstrations full of hatred and violence, and I can imagine you defending them. Isn´t Islam supposed to spread peace and love as well? As long as I see double standards like that, I will not sympatize with you (I will still condemn hatred and stupidity, but I am fully aware that it runs among your people very well too). I am not going to sympatize with you until you start treating all people equally -- violence and hatred of muslims against non-muslims is equally wrong as violence and hatred of non-muslims against muslims.
Actually cat, you´ in general´ do enough, even you dont even give us that chance to sympatize with you!
You condemn, judge us from the start, and your post is a prove of that, so was your comment at Marwa´s death too.
à dont recall that i ever encourage any islamic hatred action nor supported them so that would you accuse me of double standerd...have i ?!
And i also didnt ask that you express your sympathy or not, you can even support it ...it´s actually your business.
à dont understand why do you attack me for , i didnt say violence against none muslims is acceptable But on the other hand you justify violence when done by your people always same way!
My comment/post was about the church action there vs people action
Hmmmm which i dont know would i call them my people or your people by your standerds...they were Muslims, Christians, Jewish..ect
Actually cat, you´ in general´ do enough, even you dont even give us that chance to sympatize with you!
You condemn, judge us from the start, and your post is a prove of that, so was your comment at Marwa´s death too.
à dont recall that i ever encourage any islamic hatred action nor supported them so that would you accuse me of double standerd...have i ?!
And i also didnt ask that you express your sympathy or not, you can even support it ...it´s actually your business.
à dont understand why do you attack me for , i didnt say violence against none muslims is acceptable But on the other hand you justify violence when done by your people always same way!
My comment/post was about the church action there vs people action
Hmmmm which i dont know would i call them my people or your people by your standerds...they were Muslims, Christians, Jewish..ect
So i must ask, what did you mean by ´my people?´
Canli, maybe I am very wrong about you, for which I apologize, but I think I remember you defending or being silent on news of crimes of Muslims. That is my only point.
I was trying to say something similar to Elizabeth, where she said:
"My heart is troubled though, Canli.....troubled that this site is used as a tool, not to discuss a hate crime and how terrible it is, but for certain groups to "prove" how they are being treated badly, misunderstood, ect......I am sure if I googled "hate crimes against Christians" (or against women, or against anyone) I would find some horrible article to "prove" that the world hates Christians (or whoever) and we could argue about how the world hates Muslims more....but enough already."
I feel the same way as she does -- that it´s about being Muslim, not about being a human that matters here most. Which is why I said that if it´s the other way round, some people find it acceptable, or defensible when a crime happens and it´s committed by a Muslim person!!
You should criticize this abhorrent event on teh base of it being a hate crime against human people, whether they were muslim or not!
That point aside, I think that we have a clear example here of how intolerant and judgmental religions are -- examples like this one are common across all religions. It is a shame that our common humanity is not standing above these religious divisions.
I was hoping it was the day she usually goes sky diving or four wheeling. Thursday´s must be boogie boarding and Friday´s big game fishing. Did you see her last month on the cover of Game & Fish? She is such the athlete...you make us proud GG.
Yes, it is sky diving day but those waves were so rad I just had to hit the surf too, so I glided my chute right down onto my boogie board and road the tide! Awesome!
I was hoping it was the day she usually goes sky diving or four wheeling. Thursday´s must be boogie boarding and Friday´s big game fishing. Did you see her last month on the cover of Game & Fish? She is such the athlete...you make us proud GG.
After reading about all these exciting hobbies you ladies are participatiing in I thought it was time to try some thing new and exciting........
There is a huge and hideous (and did I mention huge?) spider hanging in a web just outside my office window. It´s a beautiful day and I keep glancing out my window but everytime I d0 that monster falls right in my line of sight. I HATE spiders!
There is a huge and hideous (and did I mention huge?) spider hanging in a web just outside my office window. It´s a beautiful day and I keep glancing out my window but everytime I d0 that monster falls right in my line of sight. I HATE spiders!
I think this isn´t unique to Britain....it seems the whole world has gone mad! We had some horrible crime committed here lately too. I am almost afraid to watch the news!
Planetary nebulae are the final butterfly-like state that heralds the end of a Sun-like star´s energy-generating life. Lasting no more than a few tens of thousands of years, planetary nebulae help seed space with heavier chemical elements that can be incorporated into the next generation of stars.
Grosbard´s project has already been met with suspicion in the Muslim world.
"Israel wants to lure Muslims into its trap by interpreting the Qur´an in a way that suits Israeli projects," Sheikh Shawqi Abdel-Latif of the Egyptian Ministry of Awqaf (Religious Endowments) has told Al-Masri Al-Youm newspaper.
Dr. Manae Abdel-Halim Mahmoud, professor of Qur´anic sciences at Al-Azhar University, also blasted the Israeli project.
"Israel only harbors enmity to Islam and Muslims," he said.
"This project aims to tarnish the image of Islam by giving wrong interpretation of the Noble Qur´an."
Planetary nebulae are the final butterfly-like state that heralds the end of a Sun-like star´s energy-generating life. Lasting no more than a few tens of thousands of years, planetary nebulae help seed space with heavier chemical elements that can be incorporated into the next generation of stars.
These are beautiful pictures. I just got my son a telescope a few months back and we are totally hooked on astronomy. It´s a great subject to share with your kids/family.
These are beautiful pictures. I just got my son a telescope a few months back and we are totally hooked on astronomy. It´s a great subject to share with your kids/family.
Glad you and I agree on something Elisabeth.... Congratulations on getting a telescope for your son. Those photographs are amazing....aren´t they.
The printed t-shirts were discovered by an Israeli newspaper
The revelations centre on t-shirt designs made for soldiers that make light of shooting pregnant Palestinian mothers and children and include images of dead babies and destroyed mosques.
The t-shirts were printed for Israeli soldiers at the end of periods of deployment or training courses and were discovered by Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
One, printed for a platoon of Israeli snipers depicts an armed Palestinian pregnant women caught in the crosshairs of a rifle, with the disturbing caption in English: "1 shot 2 kills".
Another depicts a child carrying a gun also in the centre of a target.
"The smaller, the harder," read the words on the t-shirt.
I don`t believe the christian white nazist propaganda. that crosses me out of the list but Im not sure about you.
Let me think...I don´t believe Christians, Nazists, Islamists, Buddhists, angry adolescents, google hits or flue vaccines so I think I´m more objective than you as I can go beyond religious mumbo-jumbo and testosterone hits
Damn it Teas.....will you please give this one another pacifier? I have heard that if you make them watch Fox News, they will just cry themselves to sleep!
Woman will be canned for drinking beer in Malaysia
(But the good thing is, the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men.)
..
Muslim model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno has become the first woman in Malaysia to be sentenced to a caning after being caught drinking beer in a beach resort.
The 32-year-old will receive six lashes at a woman´s prison next week in what is being viewed as an example of the growing influence of Islamic hardliners on the country.
..her husband, paid a fine of £860, but declined to lodge an appeal so she could get the punishment over with and put the episode behind her.
She was arrested in July last year in a hotel nightclub in the beach resort of Cherating during a raid by the state´s religious department and admitted drinking beer.
An Islamic court fined her and ordered her to be caned at Kajang women´s prison next week, but spared her a jail term of up to three years.
She received word of the sentence from her father and said she would be returning to Malaysia from Singapore.
"I accept the punishment," she said. ...
"
Prosecutor Saiful Idham Sahimi said: "This is the first case in Malaysia. It is a good punishment because under Islamic law a person who drinks commits a serious offence."
.... The lashes administered to the buttocks, break the skin and leave scars.
But in Kartika´s case the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men. Sharia law dictates it be no thicker than the little finger and the cane cannot be lifted so high the arm is away from the armpit. ...
A big-busted young woman has become an internet sensation,
after offering handy tips to curvy ladies around the world on how they can replace handbags with their gigantic bras.
In a cheeky web-movie curvy student Winter Pierzina, 20, from Arizona, USA, shows how she can smuggle her car keys, mobile phone, camera, lipstick, wrench, screw driver and even mace into her underwear - as well as her massive boobs.
Below is the lady and her bras
The news (the youtube video is at the bottom) is :
A big-busted young woman has become an internet sensation,
after offering handy tips to curvy ladies around the world on how they can replace handbags with their gigantic bras.
In a cheeky web-movie curvy student Winter Pierzina, 20, from Arizona, USA, shows how she can smuggle her car keys, mobile phone, camera, lipstick, wrench, screw driver and even mace into her underwear - as well as her massive boobs.
Below is the lady and her bras
The news (the youtube video is at the bottom) is :
A big-busted young woman has become an internet sensation,
after offering handy tips to curvy ladies around the world on how they can replace handbags with their gigantic bras.
In a cheeky web-movie curvy student Winter Pierzina, 20, from Arizona, USA, shows how she can smuggle her car keys, mobile phone, camera, lipstick, wrench, screw driver and even mace into her underwear - as well as her massive boobs.
Below is the lady and her bras
The news (the youtube video is at the bottom) is :
"What governor - once an actor, then a Terminator, married to a major women´s leader - has the chutzpah to wipe out 100 percent of the domestic violence budget of California, the biggest state in the country, with a single grope of his veto pen?
What same governor does this as the state economy is plummeting and violence is escalating? When the STAND Hotline, that serves Contra Costa County, fielded more than 12,500 calls for help in the first seven months of 2009, triple the number in a normal year (if violence is ever normal)? In a state where over the past six months at least five men, desperate from losing their jobs, have murdered their families and themselves? What other governor is willing to sacrifice the lives of his constituent daughters and mothers in order to protect oil corporations from paying taxes on their multi-billion-dollar profits - fair taxes that could easily fund these same programs?
I try to imagine what the governor thinks as he draws his veto pen through 40 years of women´s struggle and work, how he sleeps knowing women across his state who are exposed to brutality will be left without escape, shelter or even a friendly voice at the end of a hotline. How he justifies women having to choose between becoming homeless or staying in the midst of danger. Then I am reminded he is the Terminator - no pity, no remorse, no fear.
Fortunately, other governors do feel pity and remorse. They know that having muscle isn´t what makes a man, but it is compassion and wisdom and respect for women and girls. In New Mexico, Governor Bill Richardson has not only preserved funds for domestic violence programs, but has made a sincere and deep commitment to ending violence against women in his state.
Schwarzenegger has always had contempt for the vulnerable, or maybe it´s just his own inner girlie man he despises. But now he has gone too far.
This cut is reckless and dangerous. It could begin a wave of cuts throughout the country. It sends a message to perpetrators. It basically says no one is watching, no one is coming. All bets are off. Having just spent months in the Democratic Republic of Congo, I can tell you that this climate of free-for-all spreads violence like a California wildfire.
Governor, too many hours in your cigar smoking corporate oil drilling boy´s tent has made you think that you can get away with this. We´ve got your number. Unlike you we don´t act alone. There are thousands of us, we are organized, and we won´t be stopped by one muscle-bound veto.
Don´t terminate. Reinstate the funds. Don´t annihilate. Alleviate the suffering.
Eve Ensler, a playwright and activist, is the founder of V-Day, a global movement to end violence against women and girls."
Woman will be canned for drinking beer in Malaysia
(But the good thing is, the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men.)
..
Muslim model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno has become the first woman in Malaysia to be sentenced to a caning after being caught drinking beer in a beach resort.
The 32-year-old will receive six lashes at a woman´s prison next week in what is being viewed as an example of the growing influence of Islamic hardliners on the country.
..her husband, paid a fine of £860, but declined to lodge an appeal so she could get the punishment over with and put the episode behind her.
She was arrested in July last year in a hotel nightclub in the beach resort of Cherating during a raid by the state´s religious department and admitted drinking beer.
An Islamic court fined her and ordered her to be caned at Kajang women´s prison next week, but spared her a jail term of up to three years.
She received word of the sentence from her father and said she would be returning to Malaysia from Singapore.
"I accept the punishment," she said. ...
"
Prosecutor Saiful Idham Sahimi said: "This is the first case in Malaysia. It is a good punishment because under Islamic law a person who drinks commits a serious offence."
.... The lashes administered to the buttocks, break the skin and leave scars.
But in Kartika´s case the rattan cane will be lighter than those used to punish men. Sharia law dictates it be no thicker than the little finger and the cane cannot be lifted so high the arm is away from the armpit. ...
Apostrophes seemed not a hard thing to do before I moved to Ireland. Now, the poor non-native me has doubts seeing things like cafe adverts saying: panini´s, toast´s and cake´s. And that weird habit of pluralising 2nd person as in: "How long have yous been there" or using me instead of my in "That´s me new car" drive me mad!
Just come to my attention as well that _AE_ is a returning member and in the absence of the Welcoming Committee chairman (gross dereliction) and members of the committee I welcome you back.
KARAI, Malaysia - Malaysia abruptly granted a Ramadan reprieve to the first Muslim Malay woman to be sentenced to caning for drinking beer, but insisted Monday the thrashing would still take place after the Islamic holy month of fasting.
Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, a 32-year-old mother of two, had been en route to a women´s prison for the caning when Islamic officials who took her into custody drove her back home and released her.
Mohamad Sahfri Abdul Aziz, a state legislator in charge of religious affairs, later said the Attorney General´s office advised that the caning should be delayed for compassionate reasons until after the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which began Saturday.
The US army officer convicted for his part in the notorious My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War has offered his first public apology, a US report says.
"There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for what happened," Lt William Calley was quoted as saying by the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer.
He was addressing a small group at a community club in Columbus, Georgia.
Calley, 66, was convicted on 22 counts of murder for the 1968 massacre of 500 men, women and children in Vietnam.
He was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the killings in 1971. Then-US President Richard Nixon commuted his sentence to three years´ house arrest.
But Calley insisted that he was only following orders, the paper reported.
Donor cabbie says giving the organ is a ‘whole new kind of lift’
PHOENIX - Rita Van Loenen had no idea that a trip in Thomas Chappell´s taxi cab could end up being the ride that saves her life.
"There are better odds of getting struck by lightning," Van Loenen said. "A random taxi driver offering to give me his kidney and all these pieces match. There has to be something behind this. How can this be?"
Chappell, who has been driving Van Loenen to dialysis appointments, shocked the Gilbert, Ariz., woman a month ago by offering to donate his kidney. But even more shocking to her was that doctors found they had the same blood type, that they were compatible.
The passing of an iconic American politician.......
HYANNIS PORT, Mass. – Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in an enduring political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.
In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, served alongside 10 presidents — his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them — compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.
In a brief statement to reporters at his rented vacation home on Martha´s Vineyard, Mass., President Barack Obama eulogized Kennedy as one of the "most accomplished Americans" in history — and a man whose work in Congress helped give millions new opportunities.
"Including myself," added the nation´s first black president.
A source, speaking on grounds of anonymity because plans were still under way, told The Associated Press that Kennedy will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. At the eternal flame rests four Kennedy family members, including the former president, Jacqueline Kennedy, their baby son, Patrick, who died after two days, and a still-born child. Former Sen. Robert Kennedy F. Kennedy is buried a short distance away.
Kennedy´s only run for the White House ended in defeat in 1980, when President Jimmy Carter turned back his challenge for the party´s nomination. More than a quarter-century later, Kennedy handed then-Sen. Barack Obama an endorsement at a critical point in the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, explicitly likening the young contender to President Kennedy.
The passing of an iconic American politician.......
HYANNIS PORT, Mass. – Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in an enduring political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.
In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, served alongside 10 presidents — his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them — compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.
Circumcision statistics are difficult to obtain because of the large number of locations in which circumcisions are performed in the United States. Different sources provide varying results. The time frame is also important because circumcision rates have varied from year to year.
History. Wirth (198 published circumcision statistics obtained between July 1963 to December 1965 by the Cycle III of the Health Examination Service of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, a result of physical examinations of 12- to 17-year-old boys.1 The numbers relate to the incidence of circumcision in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The findings are set forth in Table I.
Table I
Census Region
Northeast
North Central
South
West
Whites
83%
89%
74%
74%
Blacks
68%
52%
31%
54%
Combined
81%
86%
63%
73%
Wirth reported that 76% of all boys in the survey were circumcised—whites, about 80% , and blacks about 45%. Wirth emphasized that, in some hospitals, more than 90 percent of boys were circumcised.1 Wirth´s data are consistent with those reported by Laumann et al. below.
Four Turkish soldiers were killed and three wounded on Monday in an explosion during a training exercise in the eastern province of Elazig, security sources said.
It seemed like an accident..
Alas..It happens..As we say in Turkey ´Ana kucagi degil, asker ocagi´
(it is not your mother´s lap, it is the army)
But..
Now we are learning that it was not an accident at all:
One of the dead soldiers sleeps during his guard duty at 6:00 am..
And a corporal takes his hand granade as an evidence while sleeping..
Early in the morning the corporal gives the hand granade (the evidence) to the lieutenant.
And the lieutenant pulls the hand granade´s pin and hands it to the soldier who was a sleep, as a punishment and he says ´if you release the latch you die, if you dont, you will live´
And the soldier comes back to the lieutenant and asks for the pin (so that he can put the pin back) twice..The lieutenant tells him ´not now..and wait for me´
And the punishment goes on for a while (around 45 mins or more) and when the soldier has no more power the granade explodes..
The passing of an iconic American politician.......
HYANNIS PORT, Mass. – Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in an enduring political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.
In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy, a liberal Democrat, served alongside 10 presidents — his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them — compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.
In a brief statement to reporters at his rented vacation home on Martha´s Vineyard, Mass., President Barack Obama eulogized Kennedy as one of the "most accomplished Americans" in history — and a man whose work in Congress helped give millions new opportunities.
"Including myself," added the nation´s first black president.
A source, speaking on grounds of anonymity because plans were still under way, told The Associated Press that Kennedy will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. At the eternal flame rests four Kennedy family members, including the former president, Jacqueline Kennedy, their baby son, Patrick, who died after two days, and a still-born child. Former Sen. Robert Kennedy F. Kennedy is buried a short distance away.
Kennedy´s only run for the White House ended in defeat in 1980, when President Jimmy Carter turned back his challenge for the party´s nomination. More than a quarter-century later, Kennedy handed then-Sen. Barack Obama an endorsement at a critical point in the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, explicitly likening the young contender to President Kennedy.
For me, his name will always be synonomous with the Chappaquidick incident and his bizarre behaviour following Mary Jo Kopechne´s death. There are some intesting theories about this and even the facts themselves ask more questions than they answer.
For me, his name will always be synonomous with the Chappaquidick incident and his bizarre behaviour following Mary Jo Kopechne´s death. There are some intesting theories about this and even the facts themselves ask more questions than they answer.
So many people in the Kennedy family have been involved in scandals! This one is probably the strangest. I was watching a television program about the Kennedy family a while back. I was shocked to know that the Kennedy family made its original fortune from bootlegging liquor during prohibition. Those darn wild Irishmen!
So many people in the Kennedy family have been involved in scandals! This one is probably the strangest. I was watching a television program about the Kennedy family a while back. I was shocked to know that the Kennedy family made its original fortune from bootlegging liquor during prohibition. Those darn wild Irishmen!
Well (apart from Chappaquiddick) I don´t think the other scandals affected their ability or right to run the country. They were HUMAN - some people should remember they are not gods
Well (apart from Chappaquiddick) I don´t think the other scandals affected their ability or right to run the country. They were HUMAN - some people should remember they are not gods
Of course us Americans turn up our noses at the concept of a "Royal Family" but if their was one, they would be it. But you are right, they are HUMAN and certainly have their share of tragedy to prove it. But in spite of everything, the Kennedys as a family have dedicated their lives to public service which, in my opinion is quite admirable.
Or maybe it´s those special psychic powers called IP and PM reading
...if you´re that interested it´s recognising someone´s posting style and recognising their choice of nickname - not psychic just observant, as I´m sure most regular members are.
Whatever gives you the idea that Admin can read pms?? I certainly can´t. (I presume you meant other people´s not my own!)
Of course us Americans turn up our noses at the concept of a "Royal Family" but if their was one, they would be it. But you are right, they are HUMAN and certainly have their share of tragedy to prove it. But in spite of everything, the Kennedys as a family have dedicated their lives to public service which, in my opinion is quite admirable.
Interesting they all go back to the middle of the 19th Centruy. The Kennedy family are relative newcomers on the political stage. The Bush family has a much longer history, going back to Samuel Bush, who during WWI was was appointed to the War Industries Board.
Then there is the Rockefeller family who goes back over 150 years. One interesting thing I noticed about the Bush and Rockefeller families is the association with banks.....?
An interesting fact about Patrick Kennedy (the son of Patrick Kennedy the Irish immigrent) "......... thirty five year old Kennedy succumbed to the highly infectious cholera that infested East Boston, and died on November 22, 1858—105 years to the day before his great-grandson John F. Kennedy would be assassinated." It seems the Kennedy family had much closer living memory relationship with poverty and need.
The Bush and Rockefeller famlies have been very far away from poverty for some time.
Umm....there was only one Kennedy POTUS....JFK....although I do agree he was very handsome.
OMG yes you are right - I don´t know why I was thinking Bobby was a president!!!!
I guess I should google every time I speak - but in real life there is no google so those who have to google before opening their mouths (or typing) must have little general knowledge
OMG yes you are right - I don´t know why I was thinking Bobby was a president!!!!
I guess I should google every time I speak - but in real life there is no google so those who have to google before opening their mouths (or typing) must have little general knowledge
I didn´t have to Google that one........He probably could have been president, but we will never know.
Oh you are now welcoming committee AND President of boringsville? How nice that you can multi-task!!!
He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!He NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG. Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back. Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. You cannot simply replace me. I have rights you know.
He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!He NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG. Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back. Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. You cannot simply replace me. I have rights you know.
Deep breath teas!! Let me get you an EAP card! I did not mean he is the head of the TC welcoming committee....everyone knows he lost that position in disgrace....he is the head of the Boringsville welcoming committee...polulation - thehandsom!
He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!He NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG. Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back. Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. You cannot simply replace me. I have rights you know.
He is NOT the head of the welcoming committee, I AM!He NCNS...no called no showed and you know what that means GG. Just because he realized the grass isn´t greener on the other side, doesn´t give him the right to assume he gets his position back. Bye the way I have been here for at least 1250 hours in a 12 month rolling period, I am entitled to FMLA. You cannot simply replace me. I have rights you know.
You may be entitled to FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) but you must first go thru the EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and get your PAR (Personel Action Requisition) signed by the MOD (Manager on Duty). Only at that time will HR (Human Resources) give you any PTO (Paid Time Off) for your CMS (Change in Mental Status).
You may be entitled to FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) but you must first go thru the EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and get your PAR (Personel Action Requisition) signed by the MOD (Manager on Duty). Only at that time will HR (Human Resources) give you any PTO (Paid Time Off) for your CMS (Change in Mental Status).
You may be entitled to FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) but you must first go thru the EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and get your PAR (Personel Action Requisition) signed by the MOD (Manager on Duty). Only at that time will HR (Human Resources) give you any PTO (Paid Time Off) for your CMS (Change in Mental Status).
PS (Post Script) OMG (oh my god) what a lot of BS (bull shit) to remember and BTW (by the way) I think TC (Turkish Class) causes some PPL (people) to have a CMS (Change in Mental Status). CYA (see you) later BRB (be right back) L.O.L (laugh out loud)!
PS (Post Script) OMG (oh my god) what a lot of BS (bull shit) to remember and BTW (by the way) I think TC (Turkish Class) causes some PPL (people) to have a CMS (Change in Mental Status).
He snatched the little girl at random, bundling her into a car as he cruised for victims around the holiday resorts of California´s Sierra Nevada. Then he drove more than 200 miles to his rambling home on the outskirts of a blue-collar city called Antioch.
For the next 18 years, Phillip Craig Garrido kept his victim hidden from the world, in a squalid collection of tents, shacks and lean-tos at the bottom of his back garden. She suffered unthinkable abuse, was raped countless times, and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.
He snatched the little girl at random, bundling her into a car as he cruised for victims around the holiday resorts of California´s Sierra Nevada. Then he drove more than 200 miles to his rambling home on the outskirts of a blue-collar city called Antioch.
For the next 18 years, Phillip Craig Garrido kept his victim hidden from the world, in a squalid collection of tents, shacks and lean-tos at the bottom of his back garden. She suffered unthinkable abuse, was raped countless times, and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.
He snatched the little girl at random, bundling her into a car as he cruised for victims around the holiday resorts of California´s Sierra Nevada. Then he drove more than 200 miles to his rambling home on the outskirts of a blue-collar city called Antioch.
For the next 18 years, Phillip Craig Garrido kept his victim hidden from the world, in a squalid collection of tents, shacks and lean-tos at the bottom of his back garden. She suffered unthinkable abuse, was raped countless times, and forced to give birth to two children, one when she was only 14.
And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted.
Hmmmmm..............
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Guess you missed the "Innocent until proven guilty" part of USA jurisprudence?
Guess you forgot the lesson you thought so important to try teach me....of course I´m glad to remind you that in the case we were discussing...(you know the one....when you thought you were so clever with your "innocent" link and tried to teach me about jurisprudence)......THAT person had already been convicted of the crime he was accused of.
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I don´t think it´s ever wrong to have compassion.
And I wonder........why don´t you extend your compassion here? Do you rate murder as less important than the crimes this sick man is accused of?
Edited (8/30/2009) by girleegirl
[cuz i had to laugh!]
And I wonder........why don´t you extend your compassion here? Do you rate murder as less important than the crimes this sick man is accused of?
Are you serious.....maybe I have to simplify my statement for you.....
My statement...."And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted."........................of course there has to be a trial, the case needs to be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt"....but DNA should be pretty easy to prove paternity....hmmm a 15 year old child of a 29 year old woman...now how old would she have had to have been....she was forced.......she was only 11 years old when kidnapped!.....he is a violent sexual predator...a pedofile.....in an office with two glassy eyed robotic young girls....?
Edited (8/30/2009) by alameda
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Edited (8/30/2009) by alameda
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Are you serious.....maybe I have to simplify my statement for you.....
My statement...."And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted."........................of course there has to be a trial, the case needs to be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt"....but DNA should be pretty easy to prove paternity....hmmm a 15 year old child of a 29 year old woman...now how old would she have had to have been....she was forced.......she was only 11 years old when kidnapped!.....he is a violent sexual predator...a pedofile.....in an office with two glassy eyed robotic young girls....?
There, there, do you feel better? I know how important it is for you to feel smarter and superior to everyone and talk down to anyone who questions you so good for you!!
Now, why don’t you answer the question?
You feel that the death penalty is appropriate for a child molester/rapist/kidnapper who, by any stretch of the imagination, is mentally ill, but you feel compassionate release is appropriate for a convicted murder because he is terminally ill. So, I will ask again…..why the difference in your compassion?
canim, but you criticize others who express themselves in this way!
No, I criticize those who pretend they don´t. I see no reason to temper my responses. If that makes you uncomfortable then I apologize in advance for my future comments!
But I assume your comment was not only meant for me.
You feel that the death penalty is appropriate for a child molester/rapist/kidnapper who, by any stretch of the imagination, is mentally ill, but you feel compassionate release is appropriate for a convicted murder because he is terminally ill. So, I will ask again…..why the difference in your compassion?
Girleegirl....did you refresh yourself regarding my statement about the Lockerbie Bomber that seems to have set you off:
.............If someone is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt....in my mind....not in a court that has political motives....
Now, did I say the death penalty was appropriate, or that I would go for it? NO....
"Are you serious.....maybe I have to simplify my statement for you.....
My statement...."And yes, although most the time I am against capital punishment, in this case it seems warranted."........................of course there has to be a trial, the case needs to be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt"....but DNA should be pretty easy to prove paternity....hmmm a 15 year old child of a 29 year old woman...now how old would she have had to have been....she was forced.......she was only 11 years old when kidnapped!.....he is a violent sexual predator...a pedofile.....in an office with two glassy eyed robotic young girls....?"
Sometimes language can be subtle...maybe too subtle for some....hmmm?
Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass. But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.
Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass. But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.
Pushing my buttons.....? it seems you are the one who is going off all the time. Not only with me, but many others. I have not stooped to personal attacks. Anything I have said is based on an analysis of situations. I am not commenting on my like, dislike, approval of others personal attributes.
"whack job"....look who is talking.....perhaps this should be in the menopause thread, due to the fact you certainly are exhibiting symptoms of hormonal imbalance....irritability and mood swings. It is called perimenopause....and you are definitly in it.
There is no shame to be in menopause. It is a natural part of a woman´s life. I don´t know why so many get upset about the natural progression of life´s stages.
US President Barack Obama .... hosts a dinner celebrating Ramadan.
U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday praised Islam as an integral part of America, as he feted prominent U.S. Muslims at an Iftar dinner marking the holy fasting month of Ramadan.
"For well over a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection," Obama said, in remarks welcoming his guests in the State Dining Room of the White House. "Tonight´s Iftar is a ritual that is being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states," Obama said.
"Islam as we know is part of America. Like the broader American citizenry, the American Muslim community is one of extraordinary dynamism and diversity. "On this occasion, we celebrate the holy month of Ramadan and we also celebrate how much Muslims have enriched America and its culture in ways both large and small," the president said.....
Pushing my buttons.....? it seems you are the one who is going off all the time. Not only with me, but many others. I have not stooped to personal attacks. Anything I have said is based on an analysis of situations. I am not commenting on my like, dislike, approval of others personal attributes.
"whack job"....look who is talking.....perhaps this should be in the menopause thread, due to the fact you certainly are exhibiting symptoms of hormonal imbalance....irritability and mood swings. It is called perimenopause....and you are definitly in it.
There is no shame to be in menopause. It is a natural part of a woman´s life. I don´t know why so many get upset about the natural progression of life´s stages.
Poor little alameda, soooooo in denial. How fun to see you jump on tami´s bandwagon! Don´t you just feel better now???? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
And since you are interested as well, I run just like clockwork! No perimenopause here but when the time comes I will be sure and ask your advice to see how you got through it.
Poor little alameda, soooooo in denial. How fun to see you jump on tami´s bandwagon! Don´t you just feel better now???? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
And since you are interested as well, I run just like clockwork! No perimenopause here but when the time comes I will be sure and ask your advice to see how you got through it.
US President Barack Obama .... hosts a dinner celebrating Ramadan.
U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday praised Islam as an integral part of America, as he feted prominent U.S. Muslims at an Iftar dinner marking the holy fasting month of Ramadan.
"For well over a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection," Obama said, in remarks welcoming his guests in the State Dining Room of the White House. "Tonight´s Iftar is a ritual that is being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states," Obama said.
"Islam as we know is part of America. Like the broader American citizenry, the American Muslim community is one of extraordinary dynamism and diversity. "On this occasion, we celebrate the holy month of Ramadan and we also celebrate how much Muslims have enriched America and its culture in ways both large and small," the president said.....
Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass. But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.
How do you really feel GG? Don´t you have any more EAP cards you can give out?
A cruise ship that was expected to visit Kusadasi on Wednesday excluded the Aegean town from its destinations list in response to an incident nine years earlier in which an all-gay cruise was denied entrance to the city.
´Olympic Voyager,´ flying a Greek flag, was carrying more than 2,500 gay cruise tourists. The cruise tour was operated by Atlantis, a U.S.-based travel agency that caters to gays and lesbians. The ship will stay another day in Mykonos instead of Kusadasi.
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The same cruise ship visited Kusadasi with a gay group of 800 nine years ago, but the police in Kusadasi prevented them from visiting the ancient city of Ephesus and from entering the town.
Ali Karapinar, president of the Kusadasi Tour Guides Association, told reporters that the travel agency had ´finally had its revenge on Kusadasi.´
Shop owners in the town were shocked by the decision, and the total loss to Kusadasi is estimated to be hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Pictures of ´holy terrorists´ to be removed from exhibition
Art exhibition including seven paintings of female suicide bombers depicted as Madonna holding baby Jesus in their laps slated to open Thursday at Journalists´ Association in Tel Aviv.
Following protest, association says will remove paintings.
Finally some good news about women who are NOT supermodels!!
Skinny thighs could spell your doom
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:05 PM PT
By JoNel Aleccia
At last, good news for anyone who ever despaired of fitting into skinny jeans: Thin thighs might actually kill you. Or at least put a strain on your heart.
That’s the word from Danish researchers who studied more than 2,800 middle-aged people for up to a dozen years, only to find that those with the slimmest thighs had the highest chance of heart disease and premature death.
“There was up to a double risk for the people with the smallest thighs,” said Dr. Berit L. Heitmann, a director of research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark. “It’s quite substantial.”
People whose thighs measured less than 60 centimeters, or about 23.6 inches in circumference, were in trouble. And those with stick-thin gams (less than 18 inches around) were at the greatest risk, according to new study in the online version of the British Medical Journal.
Stefan Gosatti / Getty Images file
By that measure, supermodels everywhere would be in grave danger, while those who one fitness expert described as “normal-sized people,” would be in the pink.
“Typically a 23.6-inch thigh on a female would be a size 6 to 8,” said Greg Benson, president of the International Sports and Fitness Trainers Association.
“There was up to a double risk for the people with the smallest thighs,” said Dr. Berit L. Heitmann, a director of research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark. “It’s quite substantial.”
We knew it all along that these pathetic and sick so-called-beauty standards are only harmful and making us sick, but guess who came up with them in the first place... (hint: not women!)
We knew it all along that these pathetic and sick so-called-beauty standards are only harmful and making us sick, but guess who came up with them in the first place... (hint: not women!)
Well, clothes look best on clothes hangers, so no wonder models resemble them lol.
I´m really happy to hear that my thunder thighs turned out to be good for something lol.
Thank you dear _AE_, it is nice to see you here again and it is nice to be in thehandsom´s class as well
Welcome back Armegon to Thehandsom Class! We have a variety of classes, for all levels (we recommend that you start with the beginner level), you can practice with exercises, there is pronounciation for larger texts, as well as vocabulary quizzes. We also offer thehandsom double-click dictionary, just click anywhere on the site, and you will be taken to the dictionary that will explain the meaning of whatever you don´t understand. There are also other materials available here, from which you can learn more about Thehandsom´s history and culture. We hope you will find them all useful and that you will enjoy what we have prepared here for you.
Hehe thanks, woow im very happy that im upgraded to thehandsom´s class after catwoman´s class, beginner will be fine as i am far away from here for about six months...
Quoting catwoman
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Very good DrC - you made me laugh out loud
Edited (9/5/2009) by _AE_ Edited (9/5/2009) by _AE_
Horrifying is right............and I don´t speak Dutch but I recognise Hahaha when I see it. I can´t believe the callousness of some people who comment on video clips like this.
Horrifying is right............and I don´t speak Dutch but I recognise Hahaha when I see it. I can´t believe the callousness of some people who comment on video clips like this.
I read the first 5 pages with comments and the ´haha´ + other comments made me sick. Happily most other posts were very much showing dislike at these sicko´s.
Horrifying is right............and I don´t speak Dutch but I recognise Hahaha when I see it. I can´t believe the callousness of some people who comment on video clips like this.
Horrifying indeed. The sad thing is that policeman is himself at fault - he actually waits and then blocks that road lane with the large lorry as the next vehicle. This means that until the lorry actually moves over to the other lane, the cars behind are unaware of the policeman and can´t see him until there are just seconds to spare....
It seems a really unsafe thing to attempt, even without the lorry because vehicles were still using the other lane which the blocked lane had to move into. He should have waited until there was a bigger space int he traffic.
Nato airstrike kills 90 including 40 civilians in Afghanistan
At least 95 people were killed yesterday , a large number of them civilians, in a US air strike in Kunduz Province, Afghanistan. Though the US denied that any of the people killed were civilians, NATO acknowledged that there was “a possibility” that some civilians were killed.
Though the US denied that any of the people killed were civilians, NATO acknowledged that there was “a possibility” that some civilians were killed.
Just in case there is still doubt that the west is subject to censorship and propaganda...:-
" Western forces were engulfed in bitter controversy yesterday after Nato air strikes on two oil tankers hijacked by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan led to carnage with a fireball killing 95 people, dozens of them civilians.
Most of those who perished were burned to death. Nato initially insisted that all the dead were Taliban insurgents but later, after angry protests from residents and officials, they acknowledged there had been civilian deaths.
The attack at the village of Haji Aman, around seven miles from Kunduz, could not have come at a more volatile time in Afghanistan, with intense anger over civilian casualties and an intensifying clash between President Hamid Karzai and Washington over the disputed national election. The incumbent President has repeatedly complained about civilian deaths from Nato air strikes".
Taken from the link from The Independent newspaper.
Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.
Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?
The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.
It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)
They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.
So be warned, patriarchy you´re grooming women for infidelity!
Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.
Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?
The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.
It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)
They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.
So be warned, patriarchy you´re grooming women for infidelity!
Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.
Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?
The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.
It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)
They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.
So be warned, patriarchy you´re grooming women for infidelity!
The "fact" that women are having more affairs than they used to does not detract from the fact that men also have affairs - so what is your point? They are better at lying? Or just maybe not so dumb....
BTW Farrah was married to Lee Majors during Charlie´s Angels (hence her name then, Farrah Fawcett Majors)
Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.
Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?
The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.
It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)
They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.
So be warned, patriarchy you´re grooming women for infidelity!
Farrah Fawcett had been living with Ryan O´Neal for a few years when she died, although they were famous for their on-off, sometimes stormy, sometimes passionate, relationship for three decades.
Ryan apparently stepped up to the mark and was there for her in her battle against cancer. But now Greg Lott, a former American footballer, says he and Farrah had an 11-year affair. Ryan, naturally, denies it. But would he know?
The word on the "studies show" street is that women are having more affairs than they used to and, interestingly, that they are better than men at keeping them secret. Better at not getting caught, it seems.
It doesn´t surprise me. Women are brought up to please and to please men especially. (Like the way Farrah was busy being a Charlie´s Angel.)
They´re brought up to tell lies better and more easily.
So be warned, patriarchy you´re grooming women for infidelity!
Finally some good news about women who are NOT supermodels!!
Skinny thighs could spell your doom
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:05 PM PT
By JoNel Aleccia
At last, good news for anyone who ever despaired of fitting into skinny jeans: Thin thighs might actually kill you. Or at least put a strain on your heart.
That’s the word from Danish researchers who studied more than 2,800 middle-aged people for up to a dozen years, only to find that those with the slimmest thighs had the highest chance of heart disease and premature death.
“There was up to a double risk for the people with the smallest thighs,” said Dr. Berit L. Heitmann, a director of research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark. “It’s quite substantial.”
People whose thighs measured less than 60 centimeters, or about 23.6 inches in circumference, were in trouble. And those with stick-thin gams (less than 18 inches around) were at the greatest risk, according to new study in the online version of the British Medical Journal.
Stefan Gosatti / Getty Images file
By that measure, supermodels everywhere would be in grave danger, while those who one fitness expert described as “normal-sized people,” would be in the pink.
“Typically a 23.6-inch thigh on a female would be a size 6 to 8,” said Greg Benson, president of the International Sports and Fitness Trainers Association.
Oh dear, my thighs have never been that big, and I would not say I am skinny by no means!! I just went and measured mine and they are 20". So I am a bit of trouble then! I take it the size 6 to 8 is the USA sizing?? I am a UK size 10 (now hehehe)
One day we will all be able to live quite happily doing what we want when we want without it leading to premature death Next thing will be "too many unwanted gifts on facebook will lead to mental health problems"
The campaign, designed by the German firm das comitee, features posters of Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Joseph Stalin engaging in unprotected sexual intercourse (see slideshow below) to emphasize the campaign´s "AIDS Is A Mass Murderer" tagline.
Handsom you will have to go and sit on the naughty step. This is not the sort of thing catwoman wants to read on here. On the other hand if you were finding fault with the male species you would be lauded.
Handsom you will have to go and sit on the naughty step. This is not the sort of thing catwoman wants to read on here. On the other hand if you were finding fault with the male species you would be lauded.
´Race-hate´ gang beats devout Muslim to brink of death in front of his granddaughter, three
Victim Ekram Haque who is in hospital after being beaten by a racist gang outside a Mosque
A Muslim pensioner was on the brink of death last night after an appalling race-hate attack by a gang of schoolboys.
Retired care worker Ekram Haque, 67, was battered to the ground in front of his three-year- old granddaughter Marian.
Doctors have told his family he has no chance of survival. Last night he was on a ventilator as friends and relatives paid their last respects.
Police are linking the attack to other assaults on elderly Asians. The attackers, who were black and wore hooded tops, are believed to be as young as 12.
Mr Haque, a devout Muslim, was ambushed as he left his local mosque in Tooting, South-West London, where he had been attending evening prayers during the holy month of Ramadan.
In the early nineties I taught health science to kids of 12-14, including sex education. One of the weirdest ideas I heard was that Coca Cola was a contraceptive. Afterwards (...) a woman should rinse herself inside with the stuff to avoid getting pregnant..... (I´m not sure if they thought it also works with Diet Coke.. )
It looks likely to become the must-have beauty product of the autumn and the waiting list is already more than 2,000 long.
Slendertone Face is the latest attempt to fight the ageing process and goes on sale at Harrods today.
At £300, the headset device claims to produce a "natural facelift" that is cheaper and less intrusive than cosmetic surgery and more cost-effective than regular filler injections.
The product uses electronic muscle stimulation technology that has been used in hospitals for more than 40 years for muscle rehabilitation. Clinical trials showed that use reversed the muscle wastage that comes with age, plumping and rejuvenating the face.
It looks likely to become the must-have beauty product of the autumn and the waiting list is already more than 2,000 long.
Slendertone Face is the latest attempt to fight the ageing process and goes on sale at Harrods today.
At £300, the headset device claims to produce a "natural facelift" that is cheaper and less intrusive than cosmetic surgery and more cost-effective than regular filler injections.
The product uses electronic muscle stimulation technology that has been used in hospitals for more than 40 years for muscle rehabilitation. Clinical trials showed that use reversed the muscle wastage that comes with age, plumping and rejuvenating the face.
Aw so very thoughful but I think if the TC ladies club together and got you this.....it would be a much better use of the £300 pounds.....AND no wrinkles in sight
From relieving boredom, to keeping the peace in a relationship or even curing a headache, the reasons for succumbing to the advances of the opposite sex are many and varied.
Romance and passion, it has to be said, comes rather low down the list, according to a new book.
One woman even admitted to having sex just so her husband would put the rubbish out.
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´Research has shown that most men find most women at least somewhat sexually attractive, whereas most women do not find most men sexually attractive at all,´ conclude the authors, both psychology professors at the University of Texas.
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One said she did it for a spiritual experience, proclaiming: ´It´s the closest thing to God.´
... with 84 per cent admitting to having sex just to ensure a quiet life or to bargain-for household chores.
One woman explained: ´I have sex to relieve the boredom - because it´s easier than fighting. Plus it gives me something to do.´ For others, it provides an unlikely cure for a migraine or stress headache.
While it may not come as welcome news, some women have sex out of sympathy, with one admitting: ´I slept with a couple of guys because I felt sorry for them.´
But most have selfish motives, with financial or material rewards a major factor behind many sexual encounters.
In one survey of students carried out by the researchers, nearly one in ten women admitted to ´having sex for presents´.
From relieving boredom, to keeping the peace in a relationship or even curing a headache, the reasons for succumbing to the advances of the opposite sex are many and varied.
Romance and passion, it has to be said, comes rather low down the list, according to a new book.
One woman even admitted to having sex just so her husband would put the rubbish out.
....
´Research has shown that most men find most women at least somewhat sexually attractive, whereas most women do not find most men sexually attractive at all,´ conclude the authors, both psychology professors at the University of Texas.
....
One said she did it for a spiritual experience, proclaiming: ´It´s the closest thing to God.´
... with 84 per cent admitting to having sex just to ensure a quiet life or to bargain-for household chores.
One woman explained: ´I have sex to relieve the boredom - because it´s easier than fighting. Plus it gives me something to do.´ For others, it provides an unlikely cure for a migraine or stress headache.
While it may not come as welcome news, some women have sex out of sympathy, with one admitting: ´I slept with a couple of guys because I felt sorry for them.´
But most have selfish motives, with financial or material rewards a major factor behind many sexual encounters.
In one survey of students carried out by the researchers, nearly one in ten women admitted to ´having sex for presents´.
LOS ANGELES - The world´s oldest known person has died in Los Angeles at age 115.
Gertrude Baines died Friday at a hospital, said Dr. Charles Witt. The doctor said she likely suffered a heart attack but an autopsy would be needed to confirm her cause of death.
Baines was born in 1894 in Shellman, Ga. She became the world´s oldest living person when a 115-year-old woman, Maria de Jesus, died in Portugal in January.
My greatgrandmother died at 118! true, for the last 3 years of her life she´d do nothing but lie in bed and pray. My grandma, who was taking care of her, was ashamed of the elderly senior as "people don´t live that long". BTW, my grandma is at good health at the age of 90 and my grandpa died at 96 (having smoked and drunk all life long). I hope I haven´t inherited this "almost-immortal" gene
If he gets an erection, she will get 1 to 3 years in jail, if not 8 years..
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Guys, here´s a sharp reminder why you shouldn´t make your wife/girlfriend/lover angry when you´re dead, stinking drunk.
..Turkish woman whose jail sentence hangs on whether or not her former lover regains full use of his penis. Earlier this year the woman had, in a fit of anger, cut off her drunken lover´s penis and thrown it from their apartment window..
...In fact, this story should serve as a reminder to every Tom, Harry and, especially, Dick that they cannot tool around with the affections of a woman.
Court hearings, we are informed, will continue from time to time. In other words, it will be a ding dong process.
The extent to which the woman will be given the judicial shaft depends on the future functionality of the dismembered member, but it appears that she will not be spared the rod.
It is heartening to note that the judicial process will take its time and not rush into a decision half-cocked.
I wonder if they have an official pecker checker process. If there are no volunteers for that job, someone may be forced into it willy-nilly.
Eventually, I guess interest in this case will peter out.
But, if everything returns to normal for the man, we can conclusively proclaim, "The penis, mightier than the sword".
After The Mid-Term Exam: Before the Final Exam: Once We get the Schedule of Final exam: 7 Days Before Final exam:
6 Days Before Final exam:
5 Days Before Final exam:
4 Days Before Final exam:
3 Days Before Final exam:
2 Days Before Final exam:
1 Days Before Final exam: Night Before the final exam: 1 Hour before the final exam: During the final exams: once walk out of the examination room: After the final exam during the holiday: That’s College!!!
A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant. Van Miguel Hartless, 24...
A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant.
Van Miguel Hartless, 24, of Fair Haven, said Friday he bought the Southwestern Whopper at a Burger King in Rutland on June 18 and made the discovery at home. "My third bite into the burger, it was just a foreign taste," he said. "As I went to bite down a little harder, I felt a rubber grind in between my teeth."
The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.
There was no comment from Burger King or Carrols.
I wonder if it was a used one. Condom burger! anyone?
The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.
There was no comment from Burger King or Carrols.
Ewww...how really disgusting! It probably was a disgrunteled employee. There have been numerous reports of employees taking venting their frustration in rather disgusting manners.
The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.
Jesus Christ, the condom was wrapped and unopened. What pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses? He should get an apology and some free burgers and assurance the employee who did that would get fired. Some people will sue over anything. Easy money.
Jesus Christ, the condom was wrapped and unopened. What pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses? He should get an apology and some free burgers and assurance the employee who did that would get fired. Some people will sue over anything. Easy money.
it clearly says that it was unwrapped, and probably used!
Jesus Christ, the condom was wrapped and unopened. What pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses? He should get an apology and some free burgers and assurance the employee who did that would get fired. Some people will sue over anything. Easy money.
It was unwrapped apparently - ´found an unwrapped condom inside ´
but I did wonder how he had suffered pain and emotional duress! Is that like ´emotional stress´ or did they mean ´emotional Durex´??Maybe he suffers from condom phobia?? -
It was unwrapped apparently - ´found an unwrapped condom inside ´
but I did wonder how he had suffered pain and emotional duress! Is that like ´emotional stress´ or did they mean ´emotional Durex´??Maybe he suffers from condom phobia?? -
Well I guess I misread it. But still, when I hear about the emotional pain and suffering, it makes me cringe. Those people don´t know what emotional pain and suffering is.
Well I guess I misread it. But still, when I hear about the emotional pain and suffering, it makes me cringe. Those people don´t know what emotional pain and suffering is.
Having extra fingers or toes is extremely common in Cohen´s dad´s family.. his grandmother had them, as did his mum, four of her siblings and ..´s younger brother and sister. But they all had the extra digits removed as babies. ...
Having extra fingers or toes is extremely common in Cohen´s dad´s family.. his grandmother had them, as did his mum, four of her siblings and ..´s younger brother and sister. But they all had the extra digits removed as babies. ...
A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant. Van Miguel Hartless, 24...
A man who says he bit into a Burger King sandwich and found an unwrapped condom inside has sued the owner of the restaurant.
Van Miguel Hartless, 24, of Fair Haven, said Friday he bought the Southwestern Whopper at a Burger King in Rutland on June 18 and made the discovery at home. "My third bite into the burger, it was just a foreign taste," he said. "As I went to bite down a little harder, I felt a rubber grind in between my teeth."
The lawsuit, filed Nov. 16, names store owner Carrols Corp. and seeks damages for pain and suffering, emotional duress and medical expenses.
There was no comment from Burger King or Carrols.
I wonder if it was a used one. Condom burger! anyone?
Takes me back to my teens when I worked in a canning factory and it was my job to open the post first thing in the morning. You should have seen some of the things that people would send back to us that they had found in the cans ........... what the "naughty" Irish and Maltese temps would put into the cans "for a laugh"......... condoms, flies, rubber gloves, shoe laces, rubbish off the floor, you name it it went into the cans with the beans, peas etc etc
you should be celebrating that there´s no more insults of Ataturk available!
I know I am! This is a huge relief for me actually. My Turkish friends and family don´t have to worry about making that particular decision for themselves today(whether to watch youtube or not)! Freedom can be such an annoyance...who needs it ?
I know I am! This is a huge relief for me actually. My Turkish friends and family don´t have to worry about making that particular decision for themselves today(whether to watch youtube or not)! Freedom can be such an annoyance...who needs it ?
LIR should do the same! Is she thinking that her friends don´t worry about whether she´s watching youtube or not?
My greatgrandmother died at 118! true, for the last 3 years of her life she´d do nothing but lie in bed and pray. My grandma, who was taking care of her, was ashamed of the elderly senior as "people don´t live that long". BTW, my grandma is at good health at the age of 90 and my grandpa died at 96 (having smoked and drunk all life long). I hope I haven´t inherited this "almost-immortal" gene
Amazing....I also have some long life genes...not as long as you though...mone only got to 100! A long life is not always what it´s cracked up to be though. I´ve seen too many older people who can hardly move, can´t see, pee or chew......alive only at the mercy of those taking care of me..........please just let me go. I think if i am able to interact with life....contribute in a meaningfull way....it´s nice...........but to be an ugly old dehydrated vegetable is not something I would like.
Wow....those are amazing! Thank you for posting the link. I have already sent it to a few horse lovers. You know, I missed this post until now.....
Bir þey deðil. She has a gallery reasonably near to where my sister lives - although I never heard of her before. I think we might try to visit next time we are back in England.
Bir þey deðil. She has a gallery reasonably near to where my sister lives - although I never heard of her before. I think we might try to visit next time we are back in England.
Lucky you! Her horses are beautiful, they look like Arabians. My cousins had a couple Arabians. She manages to have so much movement in her work. I saw she also has other creatures....like a bear.
Just noticed she has a book...........I may buy it....
I think if i am able to interact with life....contribute in a meaningfull way....it´s nice...........but to be an ugly old dehydrated vegetable is not something I would like.
Amazing....I also have some long life genes...not as long as you though...mone only got to 100! A long life is not always what it´s cracked up to be though. I´ve seen too many older people who can hardly move, can´t see, pee or chew......alive only at the mercy of those taking care of me..........please just let me go. I think if i am able to interact with life....contribute in a meaningfull way....it´s nice...........but to be an ugly old dehydrated vegetable is not something I would like.
Ahhhh.. you can never predict these things. There are some 90+´s running around doing business, while some 50+´s are in nursing homes needing help with using the bathroom...
Ahhhh.. you can never predict these things. There are some 90+´s running around doing business, while some 50+´s are in nursing homes needing help with using the bathroom...
But of course....I think the object is to be functional, as well as have the will to function. I don´t think many want to be in nursing homes at any age, at least not without the prospect of getting out in a reasonable amount of time. Actually, will has more to do with it.
Some are able to contribute with very limited resources.....Stephen Hawkins comes to mind.
Funeral dress: best friend keeps promise to Private Kevin Elliott
It was a promise neither man would have wanted to keep. Yesterday the funeral of a Black Watch soldier killed in Afghanistan took a bizarre turn when his best friend arrived in a bright green dress and pink leg warmers to honour a pact that the two of them had made.
Private Kevin Elliott and his friend, Barry Delaney, had agreed that whoever survived the other should wear a dress to the dead man’s funeral. Mr Delaney duly fulfilled the pledge as a tribute to Private Elliott, who was killed aged 24 while on foot patrol in the southern province of Helmand on August 31.
Mr Delaney wept on his knees at the graveside in Dundee as shots were fired during the military funeral. His dress plans are believed to have been known about in advance by other mourners
Funeral dress: best friend keeps promise to Private Kevin Elliott
It was a promise neither man would have wanted to keep. Yesterday the funeral of a Black Watch soldier killed in Afghanistan took a bizarre turn when his best friend arrived in a bright green dress and pink leg warmers to honour a pact that the two of them had made.
Private Kevin Elliott and his friend, Barry Delaney, had agreed that whoever survived the other should wear a dress to the dead man’s funeral. Mr Delaney duly fulfilled the pledge as a tribute to Private Elliott, who was killed aged 24 while on foot patrol in the southern province of Helmand on August 31.
Mr Delaney wept on his knees at the graveside in Dundee as shots were fired during the military funeral. His dress plans are believed to have been known about in advance by other mourners
A sad ´individual´ story..
I hope the people who sent those soldiers into Afghanistan feel the guilt at least a little bit as well!!
Turkish Mr Kosen, who also has the largest hands (27.5cm) and feet (36.5cm) on the globe,
British press is not very reliable,they even have problems with centimetres
...we do have problems with cms - I agree (and Trudy is always telling me) but what is wrong with those measurements - I would make that hands measuring around (up) 11inches and feet just over 14 inches - which sounds right on a man that tall - did I miss something
it says : To get them in the mood for Gay Sunday at ZSL London Zoo this weekend, the red titi monkeys and golden lion headed tamarins enjoyed their lunch from a specially designed rainbow flag feeder..
I think we have discriminatory practices going on in mod hiring. I do not see a fair representation of bed amerikans and I demand that this be rectified post haste!
I think we have discriminatory practices going on in mod hiring. I do not see a fair representation of bed amerikans and I demand that this be rectified post haste!
OR many based in UK...... OK OK choice is limited LIR doesn´t count!!
Short on cash? Then why not make your own. There´s no law against it, so long as you don´t try to pass it off as sterling.
And you can use whatever you please to make your money, whether cigarettes, rabbit skins or paper notes.
That´s what´s happening in Brixton, a south London neighbourhood where shoppers, from Thursday, will be able to hand over 10 Brixton Pounds (B£s) in return for their groceries
Holiday Inn recently debuted a new hotel in New York City. Only this one is made entirely of plastic key cards. The 400 square-foot “Key Card Hotel," created from more than 200,000 room key cards, was built to promote the brand´s relaunch of 1,200 hotels throughout the month of September.
hihihi.. ... Maybe she likes the aggressive type..
Look....if you want the truth...he´s a doctor who WAS going to specialise in plastic surgery and 3 years ago he promised me a free facelift once he had qualified! Now I find out he is switching to orthopaedics!
Look....if you want the truth...he´s a doctor who WAS going to specialise in plastic surgery and 3 years ago he promised me a free facelift once he had qualified! Now I find out he is switching to orthopaedics!
Canim, I am not sure if I´d go under the knife of a person with the nickname Hannibal! I think this has turned out all for your good...
It is disgusting that so called "well meaning" parents have talked to the press about this. I feel so sorry for the girl involved. Clearly, there must have been a cross-gender/hormonal problem to start with, otherwise I am sure doctors would not have agreed to the operation. The parents of the girl should have moved house/changed schools but as it is, the girl is likely to have emotional trauma for the rest of her life because of this. Actually I think its a pretty sick thing to post just so you can all have a giggle...
Look....if you want the truth...he´s a doctor who WAS going to specialise in plastic surgery and 3 years ago he promised me a free facelift once he had qualified! Now I find out he is switching to orthopaedics!
PHOENIX — Rita Van Loenen had no idea that a trip in Thomas Chappell’s taxi cab could end up being the ride that saves her life.
"There are better odds of getting struck by lightning,” Van Loenen said. "A random taxi driver offering to give me his kidney and all these pieces match.”
Chappell, who has been driving Van Loenen to dialysis appointments, shocked the Gilbert, Ariz., woman a month ago by offering to donate his kidney.
"He calls me all excited. If we were a closer match, we would’ve been siblings. I was ready to fall off the floor,” Van Loenen said.
The Phoenix taxi driver said he was a man of faith and that a higher power wanted him to step in.
"By then, me and the good Lord already had a talk,” Chappell said.
Last year, Van Loenen, 63, was diagnosed with a kidney disease.
In February, she received her cousin’s kidney but that transplant failed. One day, Van Loenen found herself telling Chappell, 56, that her son was going to get tested.
"I said ‘Rita, your son’s a whole lot younger than me. I’m gonna go down and go through the process and see if it will work.’ I don’t think she really believed I was going to.”
An Ohio woman who says she was unfaithful has chosen a very public way of asking her boyfriend not to break up their engagement.
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Nineteen-year-old Jess Duttry stood outside a supermarket parking lot this week with a handwritten sign that said "I cheated" and "Honk if I deserve a second chance."
On the back, Duttry had scrawled, "I honestly love him."
An Ohio woman who says she was unfaithful has chosen a very public way of asking her boyfriend not to break up their engagement.
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Nineteen-year-old Jess Duttry stood outside a supermarket parking lot this week with a handwritten sign that said "I cheated" and "Honk if I deserve a second chance."
On the back, Duttry had scrawled, "I honestly love him."
If you dont, you conk?
I guess it would work the first time... not sure about the second, third, forth, fifth.....
An Ohio woman who says she was unfaithful has chosen a very public way of asking her boyfriend not to break up their engagement.
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Nineteen-year-old Jess Duttry stood outside a supermarket parking lot this week with a handwritten sign that said "I cheated" and "Honk if I deserve a second chance."
On the back, Duttry had scrawled, "I honestly love him."
THIRD PLACE Amber Carson of Lancaster , Pennsylvania because a jury ordered a Philadelphia restaurant to pay her $113,500 after she slipped on a spilled soft drink and broke her tailbone. The reason the soft drink was on the floor: Ms.Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. What ever happened to people being responsible for their own actions?
SECOND PLACE Kara Walton, of Claymont , Delaware sued the owner of a night club in a nearby city because she fell from the bathroom window to the floor, knocking out her two front teeth. Even though Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the ladies room window to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge, the jury said the night club had to pay her $12,000.....oh, yeah, plus dental expenses. Go figure.
Ok. Here we go!!!!!
FIRST PLACE
This year´s runaway First Place Stella Award winner was: Mrs. Merv Grazinski, of Oklahoma City , Oklahoma , who purchased new 32-foot Winnebago motor home. On her first trip home, from an OU football game, having driven on to the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver´s seat to go to the back of the Winnebago to make herself a sandwich. Not surprisingly, the motor home left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Also not surprisingly, Mrs. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not putting in the owner´s manual that she couldn´t actually leave the driver´s seat while the cruise control was set. The Oklahoma jury awarded her, are you sitting down? $1,750,000 PLUS a new motor home. Winnebago actually changed their manuals as a result of this suit, just in case Mrs. Grazinski has any relatives who might also buy a motor home.
AE - this is hilarious. How come there still are broke people in the US if it´s so easy to get money? From rags to riches now has a totally new meaning (and Grazinsky does sound Polish, doesn´t it?)
From now on I will not laugh at user´s manuals saying that wearing a superhero costume does NOT give you super powers or that after heating something in a microwave, it gets hot...
Apparently condoms have a positive effect on Global Warming due to the limiting effect they have on population growth. It is 5 times cheaper as a means of preventing global warming than other green technologies.
The UN estimate that some 40% of all pregnancies worldwide are unintended. If the basic family planning needs were met (come on Popey!!!) then 34 gigatons of carbon dioxide would be saved. Equivalent to nearly 6 times the annual emissions of the US and almost 60 times the UK´s annual total.
The UN suggests that meeting basic family planning needs would reduce unintended births by 72% (no method is 100% fail safe!) which would then reduce the projected population in 2050 by half a billion.(2050 is when we are supposed have stabilised the earths mean temperature rise at 2 dec C if the world meets its carbon reduction aims)
So Popey if you want to contribute to saving the planet by reducing carbon emission then vote for the condom.
(Synopsis of an article written by London School of Economics for the journal Environmentalist)
Edited (9/24/2009) by libralady
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Apparently condoms have a positive effect on Global Warming due to the limiting effect they have on population growth. It is 5 times cheaper as a means of preventing global warming than other green technologies.
The UN estimate that some 40% of all pregnancies worldwide are unintended. If the basic family planning needs were met (come on Popey!!!) then 34 gigatons of carbon dioxide would be saved. Equivalent to nearly 6 times the annual emissions of the US and almost 60 times the UK´s annual total.
The UN suggests that meeting basic family planning needs would reduce unintended births by 72% (no method is 100% fail safe!) which would then reduce the projected population in 2050 by half a billion.(2050 is when we are supposed have stabilised the earths mean temperature rise at 2 dec C if the world meets its carbon reduction aims)
So Popey if you want to contribute to saving the planet by reducing carbon emission then vote for the condom.
(Synopsis of an article written by London School of Economics for the journal Environmentalist)
hummmmm....less people.....less global warming. It´s almost too simple.
(Tami will be writting an article soon about how Catholisism killed the planet! Tami, let me give you a few ideas for your title: Pope assasinates mother nature! Evil Christians trying to bring about armegedon by killing trees! If one more Catholic baby is born, nobody will be able to breath!)
hummmmm....less people.....less global warming. It´s almost too simple.
(Tami will be writting an article soon about how Catholisism killed the planet! Tami, let me give you a few ideas for your title: Pope assasinates mother nature! Evil Christians trying to bring about armegedon by killing trees! If one more Catholic baby is born, nobody will be able to breath!)
no need for such a complicated analysis. homosexuality alone will kill catholicism. end of the story!
But this has been going on some time - why should he be able to destroy swathes of beautiful countryside to pad out his already bulging bank balance just because he has tons of cash?? Good on them I say!
But this has been going on some time - why should he be able to destroy swathes of beautiful countryside to pad out his already bulging bank balance just because he has tons of cash?? Good on them I say!
But how about the many jobs, visitors he will bring amongst destroying the countryside.....is it good for your economy...hmmm sounds like the local government is for it. But I do agree it is sickening when I see one Walmart/Kroger close and only to open a bigger one down the street. Then you have a vacant building just taking up space. I hate real estate...but on the other hand it does create jobs...golf courses can be attractive...but put a big sky scraper up with apartments..is even worse.
But how about the many jobs, visitors he will bring amongst destroying the countryside.....is it good for your economy...hmmm sounds like the local government is for it. But I do agree it is sickening when I see one Walmart/Kroger close and only to open a bigger one down the street. Then you have a vacant building just taking up space. I hate real estate...but on the other hand it does create jobs...golf courses can be attractive...but put a big sky scraper up with apartments..is even worse.
I agree on the economic view point about jobs, but I don´t think it would create that many. the whole sustainability argument has to be considered but I think the damage to the environment far out weighs any benefits in terms of social and economic benefits.
It´s Bydands neck of the woods so wonder what his opinion of it is.........
About one in 10 German voters has an immigrant background, reports the BBC´s Oana Lungescu. Their voice is becoming ever more important, with dozens of politicians of foreign descent running as candidates in Sunday´s general election.
The new leader of the Green Party, Cem Oezdemir, is not your typical German politician. He was once voted the best-dressed man in German politics. But there is something else that makes Mr Oezdemir distinctive. His parents came from Turkey in the 1960s, part of the wave of Gastarbeiter who helped rebuild Germany after World War II.
Thirty years ago, when young Cem Oezdemir told a teacher he wanted to continue his studies rather than become a factory-worker like his dad, his school-mates burst out laughing. He has come a long way, but has Germany?
But of the 15 million immigrants here, only a third have the right to vote - including half a million people of Turkish descent. The Berlin district of Kreuzberg has been dubbed Little Istanbul.
At the weekly Turkish market, most people speak Turkish, as well as German, and some of the stall-holders wear head-scarves. When I asked a group of young men selling vegetable if they were planning to vote on Sunday, they shook their heads. "I´d like to, but I´m not allowed," said one. "I´m a Turkish citizen."
Dual citizenship is restricted under German law, and many Turks who have made a home in this country are effectively disenfranchised. "We have to stand and watch as others decide for us," complained one vegetable seller.
I didn´t know Germany puts restrictions on dual citizenship. I´m pretty sure (or i was before I read your post) that some of my friends have a dual citizenship (Polish and German)
/off to do some googling/
edit:
I googled that as far as Polish - German citizenship is concerned, from 1st May 2007 Germany allows having a dual citizenship with the restriction that if you have a dual citizenship, one of which is German, you are treated like a German citizen in Germany. That basically means you cannot talk yourself out different duties and responsibilities hiding behind your other passport. There also was a comment that Germany recognises dual citizenship on the basis of reciprocity.
Edited (9/26/2009) by Daydreamer
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I didn´t know Germany puts restrictions on dual citizenship. I´m pretty sure (or i was before I read your post) that some of my friends have a dual citizenship (Polish and German)
/off to do some googling/
Please post your search results. I have noticed citizenship status, possibilities change over the years. Now you can´t, now you can.....I wonder if it´s reversed back to now you can´t again???
I also am curious if people would then be required to choose which one of the dual citizenships they want to keep.
Please post your search results. I have noticed citizenship status, possibilities change over the years. Now you can´t, now you can.....I wonder if it´s reversed back to now you can´t again???
I also am curious if people would then be required to choose which one of the dual citizenships they want to keep.
done in my previous post (I didn´t quote the source as it was in Polish)
Reporting from Washington -Thousands of Muslims, prostrating themselves in prayer, gathered just feet from the Capitol on Friday for "A Day of Islamic Unity," an event intended to showcase what organizers called the "peace, beauty and solidarity" of Islam. ..... The turnout fell far short of the 50,000 predicted..
The strange thing is France is defending him at highest level!!!!I wonder if he will be extradited..
You know what gets my goats about it? Were he a regular John Dąbrowski, he´d have been imprisoned 31 years ago. Since he´s Mr Important Director he spends these 30 years going to film ceremonies, making movies and living his life to the full. For f****´s sake! He had sex with a 13 year old girl. He should be punished for that. Watching Polish tv news and debates (sic! there are numerous debates about whether Switzerland should have arrested him) one may get the impression that it´s an innocent man that the Evil States of America decided to persecute. They say that the girl, well...now a woman...has forgiven him and doesn´t want to press charges, they say that it happened 31 years ago so it should be forgotten, that Polanski had a tough life (spent the WWII in the ghetto and his wife, Sharon Tate got murdered by the Manson´s gang) or that he´s not a regular Dąbrowski but an artist and they have a different sensitivity. Finally, that the girl wasn´t raped because she consented to it.
I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.
My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)
I don´t know Daydreamer. I am not sure about the way most countries are run today. With leaders like Berlusconi, Sarkozy or Mitterand in power such news do not sound abnormal at all.
A while ago a similar incident happened in Turkey that linked a well-known Islamist columnist with the molesting of a young girl. There was a huge support behind the guy. Luckily, the guy is now in jail now.
Quoting Daydreamer
I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.
My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)
A while ago a similar incident happened in Turkey that linked a well-known Islamist columnist with the molesting of a young girl. There was a huge support behind the guy. Luckily, the guy is now in jail now.
That speaks really well about the Turkish Court. I hope it´ll be the same with Polanski.
It is horrible that although all people are equal, some still are more equal than the others
Well, it is a tad different, Michael Jackson never admitted that he´d molested these kids. With Polanski the matter is not whether he´s guilty or not but whether he should be sentenced for that
Well, it is a tad different, Michael Jackson never admitted that he´d molested these kids. With Polanski the matter is not whether he´s guilty or not but whether he should be sentenced for that
I agree with you about Polanski, but am also slightly bemused by the way that people very quickly forgot that there was overwhelming evidence of child abuse linked to Jackson, who had paid off the kid´s parents with millions, has attorneys CONVINCED of his guilt ....but hey?...he was a legend right? Grrrrrrrrrr!
I agree with you about Polanski, but am also slightly bemused by the way that people very quickly forgot that there was overwhelming evidence of child abuse linked to Jackson, who had paid off the kid´s parents with millions, has attorneys CONVINCED of his guilt ....but hey?...he was a legend right? Grrrrrrrrrr!
You know what gets my goats about it? Were he a regular John Dąbrowski, he´d have been imprisoned 31 years ago. Since he´s Mr Important Director he spends these 30 years going to film ceremonies, making movies and living his life to the full. For f****´s sake! He had sex with a 13 year old girl. He should be punished for that. Watching Polish tv news and debates (sic! there are numerous debates about whether Switzerland should have arrested him) one may get the impression that it´s an innocent man that the Evil States of America decided to persecute. They say that the girl, well...now a woman...has forgiven him and doesn´t want to press charges, they say that it happened 31 years ago so it should be forgotten, that Polanski had a tough life (spent the WWII in the ghetto and his wife, Sharon Tate got murdered by the Manson´s gang) or that he´s not a regular Dąbrowski but an artist and they have a different sensitivity. Finally, that the girl wasn´t raped because she consented to it.
I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.
My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they g
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ave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)
I must say that I completely agree with you..
A rapist is a rapist and he is worse I guess because of the girl´s age..
He makes me sick....he pleady guilty and committed the crime he should do the time. We will just have to see once again if we have two forms of judicial branches...one for the wealthy and one for the everday people.
He makes me sick....he pleady guilty and committed the crime he should do the time. We will just have to see once again if we have two forms of judicial branches...one for the wealthy and one for the everday people.
I can´t wait to see the trial, that is if Switzerland sends him to the States. His lawyers are trying to delay things, probably wanting to make a deal with the prosecution in the US
Student oath is ‘ethnic discrimination,’ says human rights commissioner
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Thomas Hammarberg, head of the Council of Europe Human Rights Commission, has criticized the phrase “Happy is he who calls himself a Turk,” which is part of the morning oath recited by Turkish primary school students.
..the commissioner said the famous phrase amounts to “ethnic discrimination.” The Turkish government responded quickly, saying: “The word ‘Turk’ does not represent an ethnic, linguistic or religious origin; it expresses Turkish citizenship.”
Hammarberg said in his report that there are various oaths students are made to chant every day, including another with the line, “I am a Turk and I am proud to be a Turk,” which elevate the ethnic identity over all others. The report said there are 12 to 15 million Kurds in Turkey, alongside 3 million Caucasus pupils, nearly 3 million Roma and around a million Laz, and made the recommendation that Turkey should accept these demographics as “richness.”
.... The government also said the term “minority” is defined by the Treaty of Lausanne.
I can´t believe my ears. The girl´s consent had nothing to do, she was underage and thus it was a rape. She may not hold a grudge agains him but still, it´s a prosecuted crime! Polanski´s tough life is no excuse for what he did and his being an artist is even less important - Hitler was a painter, right? Yet somehow we don´t try to justify him.
My opinion is that he should be handed over to the US judicial system, tried and sentenced not only for the rape but also for escaping the States 31 years ago (he was arrested and then they gave him 3 months or weeks to finish shooting his film. He used this opportunity to flee the country)
I agree with you...she had no way to consent....not only was she under age, he also drugged the poor thing. I really feel the girl (now a woman) has been humiliated enough. It´s tragic she has to go through all the publicity again, it´s too bad there isn´t a way to protect her identity.
Just because someone is a great artist, does not make them a saint. How about Leni Riefenstahl? Nobody can dispute her artistry....maybe it´s more about the victim? Are female rape victims not important?
I can´t believe there is any dispute about the criminality of his action.
A program of activities and trips have been organized in the popular resort town of Fethiye this weekend, providing exciting opportunities for anyone interested in birds
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE, TURKS, SAY "the word Turk refers to a person living in Turkey".
When I say ´Ne mutlu Turkum diyene´, does somebody perceive the word TURK as an ethnic identity?
............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons. Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?
There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.
If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...
same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....
You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?
Very well said alameda, it seems this poor european guy is not clever enough to interpret this motto, but i think it is intetionally, anyway; It is "Happy is the one who says i am Turk" not "Happy is the one who is Turk", there is difference, and the ones who are disturbed from this, are absolutely disturbed from Turkish citizenship as well. I read this in a newspaper yesterday, i usually do not read the readers comment but this time i decided to read and i have to say big percentage of comments are rightminded
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............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons. Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?
There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.
If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...
same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....
You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?
............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons. Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?
There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.
If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...
same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....
You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?
I think you are the one falling into trap..
First of all what is said up there is "racist"!!
I am not the only one thinking that, even one of the ministers voiced her concerns..Many writers in many newspapers are saying the same thing.
And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)..
We have non-Turks in our country and It is a shame to make them say those words..
It is like Greeks forcing Turkish childeren to say ´ how happy to say I am Greek´. Or Germans forcing Turkish childeren to say ´how happy to say I am German´ ..
And you have to be really BLIND not to see that..
I dont think I am the one making a big dealout of it..On the contrary, I would be a really happy person if our racists elements are plained off..
Nope..we are not going to change the name of the country..
But I am sure racists mottos (and racist understandings) will have to go..
You trust me on that!!
And they will go..
They are already going anyway..People are talking; people are questioning; people are realizing how racist we have been; people are realising what we were told were lies;they dont believe in -western supported terrorism type of rubbish- any more for example..
Very well said alameda, it seems this poor european guy is not clever enough to interpret this motto, but i think it is intetionally, anyway; It is "Happy is the one who says i am Turk" not "Happy is the one who is Turk", there is difference, and the ones who are disturbed from this, are absolutely disturbed from Turkish citizenship as well. I read this in a newspaper yesterday, i usually do not read the readers comment but this time i decided to read and i have to say big percentage of comments are rightminded
Yours is simply frustration
Because almost everything I said a year or before were true and with the time, you see and hear more of very similar things in Turkey. That does not makes you feel very good I guess..
Because almost everything I said a year or before were true and with the time, you see and hear more of very similar things in Turkey. That does not makes you feel very good I guess..
..........as long as there are nations, there will be declarations and pledges.....
"...........The criticism of the Pledge of Allegiance of the United States exists on several grounds. Its use in public schools has been the most controversial, as critics contend that a government-sanctioned endorsement of religion violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Critics feel that that the pledge is incompatible with democracy and freedom, and suggest that pledges of allegiance are features of totalitarian states like Nazi Germany."
"Libertarians, Socialists, and Communists generally oppose on principle pledges led by government employees in public schools, as a conflict in interest by the government and as exploitation of children. By contrast, some also believe that the "liberty" clause binds citizens to uphold libertarian beliefs and thus to oppose conscription, drug regulation and other measures which might be considered authoritarian. They also hold the view that the use of the "indivisible" clause promotes nationalism and violates State sovereignty."
"...........The criticism of the Pledge of Allegiance of the United States exists on several grounds. Its use in public schools has been the most controversial, as critics contend that a government-sanctioned endorsement of religion violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Critics feel that that the pledge is incompatible with democracy and freedom, and suggest that pledges of allegiance are features of totalitarian states like Nazi Germany."
"Libertarians, Socialists, and Communists generally oppose on principle pledges led by government employees in public schools, as a conflict in interest by the government and as exploitation of children. By contrast, some also believe that the "liberty" clause binds citizens to uphold libertarian beliefs and thus to oppose conscription, drug regulation and other measures which might be considered authoritarian. They also hold the view that the use of the "indivisible" clause promotes nationalism and violates State sovereignty."
It does not force anyone to declare they are a specific nationality, in which they are not. It emphasizes that we are one nation! Most people find that it unifies us but not divides us. I don´t see the comparison at all.
I am not the only one thinking that, even one of the ministers voiced her concerns..Many writers in many newspapers are saying the same thing.
And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)..
We have non-Turks in our country and It is a shame to make them say those words..
It is like Greeks forcing Turkish childeren to say ´ how happy to say I am Greek´. Or Germans forcing Turkish childeren to say ´how happy to say I am German´ ..
And you have to be really BLIND not to see that..
I dont think I am the one making a big dealout of it..On the contrary, I would be a really happy person if our racists elements are plained off..
Nope..we are not going to change the name of the country..
But I am sure racists mottos (and racist understandings) will have to go..
You trust me on that!!
And they will go..
They are already going anyway..People are talking; people are questioning; people are realizing how racist we have been; people are realising what we were told were lies;they dont believe in -western supported terrorism type of rubbish- any more for example..
I totally agree with you on this one...If I´m not a Turk but going to school in Turkey, I certainly would not recite this. It makes absolutely no sense... I don´t see a problem honoring their country..but the terminology does need to change to embrace all people living there.
Normal for traitors to be disturbed from what i wrote, we have lots of them throughout the history.
The ones who are Turkish citizens, are called Turks(Turkish constitution law 66). And the motto represents the cultural and historical union of the one who are living on the lands of Turkey.
And here is your frustration ;
Quoting thehandsom
And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)...
Atatürk is racist as well, below is your another frustration
Designers of a bra that turns into gas masks and a team who found that named cows produce more milk were among the winners of the 2009 Ig Nobel prizes.
The aim of the awards is to honour achievements that "first make people laugh and then make them think".
The peace prize went to a Swiss research team who determined whether it is better to be hit over the head with a full or empty bottle of beer.
The ceremony was organised by the magazine Annals of Improbable Research.
User ´need_love33´ alternately reviewing statistics and pming! Nice ´up-front´ nickname - with reason for using Turkish class being ´meet new friends and maybe more´ - I give him a week before he´s ´spammed out´
And by the way, if you´re reading this nl33 - THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE!!!
User ´need_love33´ alternately reviewing statistics and pming! Nice ´up-front´ nickname - with reason for using Turkish class being ´meet new friends and maybe more´ - I give him a week before he´s ´spammed out´
And by the way, if you´re reading this nl33 - THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE!!!
Is it my imagination or are they serial spammers? I am convinced they are all the same 5-6 people who just get deleted and keep coming back year after year!
Note to spammers: I am the one one who marks you as "spam" and contributes to your being deleted!
Need love? I need the day off (I hate working weekends!) - New nick coming up "needdayoff33"
The spammers keep me sending messages to teach me turkish, but they do not even read my profile, it´s written my name is Meltem and Turkish is my native language.
The spammers keep me sending messages to teach me turkish, but they do not even read my profile, it´s written my name is Meltem and Turkish is my native language.
Awww poor you! It must have something to do with your pretty little pic!!!
User ´need_love33´ alternately reviewing statistics and pming! Nice ´up-front´ nickname - with reason for using Turkish class being ´meet new friends and maybe more´ - I give him a week before he´s ´spammed out´
And by the way, if you´re reading this nl33 - THIS IS NOT A DATING SITE!!!
He already knows! He is an old hand...... they really must think about changing their profile pics so they are not so easily recognised (but he is it playing safe by having need_love33m as a standby)
Awww poor you! It must have something to do with your pretty little pic!!!
It might be (where´s the shy smiley). But I think whether with a picture or not, you´ll still receive spams like this. btw I need to update this pic, it has been a century
He already knows! He is an old hand...... they really must think about changing their profile pics so they are not so easily recognised (but he is it playing safe by having need_love33m as a standby)
I did notice he´d been a member for a year as need_love33 - and I also noticed that he has just added another nick - but I thought if I mentioned it I would have to delete him immediately as multiple nicknames are (as we all know) against Rule 1 of Turkish Class! Hmmm.....what to do now?? Difficult one because it might mean deleting half of TC on the basis of what goes for one, goes for all.
Normal for traitors to be disturbed from what i wrote, we have lots of them throughout the history.
The ones who are Turkish citizens, are called Turks(Turkish constitution law 66). And the motto represents the cultural and historical union of the one who are living on the lands of Turkey.
And here is your frustration ;
Quoting thehandsom
And it would not matter if I was alone or not either. It would not change the racism in andimiz(our oath)...
Atatürk is racist as well, below is your another frustration
Through out our history, people like you accused people like me as traitors..
People like you includes Turkes (late leader of ultra nationalist party) , Muhsin yazicioglu (another late leader of another nationalist party), Kenan Evren (late head of the army, leader of the cue d´etat), new head of the army etc etc..
Basically all fascists of Turkey accused people like me as traitors.
I would be seriously concerned if a fascist agreed what I say..
This will boggle your mind, I know it did mine! The year is 1909. One hundred years ago. What a difference a century makes! Here are some statistics for the Year 1909 :
************ ********* *********
The average life expectancy was 47 years.
fuel for this car was sold in drug stores only
Only 14 percent of the homes had a bathtub.
Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.
There were only 8,000 cars and only 144 miles
Of paved roads.
The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.
The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower!
The average wage in 1909 was 22 cents per hour.
The average worker made between $200 and $400 per year ..
A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year, A dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year, and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.
More than 95 percent of all births took place at HOME .
Ninety percent of all doctors had NO COLLEGE EDUCATION!
Instead, they attended so-called medical schools, many of which
Were condemned in the press AND the government as ´substandard. ´
Sugar cost four cents a pound.
Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.
Coffee was fifteen cents a pound.
Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used
Borax or egg yolks for shampoo.
Canadapassed a law that prohibited poor people from
The population of Las Vegas, Nevada, was only 30!!!!
Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced teaHadn´t been invented yet.
There was no Mother´s Day or Father´s Day.
Two out of every 10 adults couldn´t read or write and
Only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school..
Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at the local corner drugstores. Back then pharmacists said, ´Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind,regulates the stomach and bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health´
( Shocking? DUH! )
Eighteen percent of households had at leastone full-time servant or domestic help.
There were about 230 reported murders in the ENTIRE !U.S.A.!
Plus one more sad thought; 95 percent of the taxes we
I had read a bit about heroin, and at first it was destinated to make people quit smoking and alcoholism, so it was a kind of treatment against addiction, but later they found out that in fact it was heroin that would cause the worst addiction.
Thats all you can do, labeling people as fascists, racists and nationalists who disagrees with you. If you want to see a racist, just look into a mirror. Why dont you just put Atatürk to that list? I would prefer him rather than Türkeþ, Yazýcýoðlu or Evren who are American toys imo and since i have no sympathy any of them.
Quoting thehandsom
Ha ha
No worries at all..
Through out our history, people like you accused people like me as traitors..
People like you includes Turkes (late leader of ultra nationalist party) , Muhsin yazicioglu (another late leader of another nationalist party), Kenan Evren (late head of the army, leader of the cue d´etat), new head of the army etc etc..
Basically all fascists of Turkey accused people like me as traitors.
I would be seriously concerned if a fascist agreed what I say..
Poland´s at 41st place And Ireland made the 5th Our Brits will be disappointed being on 21st place while the evil Amerikans made it to the 13th. Turkey is 79th way behind Belarus, Cuba and Albania - that´s surprising
Muslims in Canada calling for burka ban... Interesting!
A Canadian Muslim group is calling on Ottawa to ban the wearing of the burka in public, saying the argument that the right to wear it is protected by the Charter’s guarantee of freedom of religion is false.
“The burka has absolutely no place in Canada,” said Farzana Hassan, of the Muslim Canadian Congress. “In Canada we recognize the equality of men and women. We want to recognize gender equality as an absolute. The burka marginalizes women.”
She said many women who cover their face in public are being forced to by their husbands and family. As a result, she argued, these women are denied opportunities and cannot live freely as other women in this society.
“The Koran exhorts Muslims toward modesty, which can be expressed in a number of different ways and it doesn’t have to be that you have to cover your face or you have to wear a virtual tent wherever you go. This is not a requirement of Islam or the Koran. We are saying this practice has become a political issue promoted by extremists and to counter this trend we are asking for a ban on the burka.”
Muslims in Canada calling for burka ban... Interesting!
A Canadian Muslim group is calling on Ottawa to ban the wearing of the burka in public, saying the argument that the right to wear it is protected by the Charter’s guarantee of freedom of religion is false.
“The burka has absolutely no place in Canada,” said Farzana Hassan, of the Muslim Canadian Congress. “In Canada we recognize the equality of men and women. We want to recognize gender equality as an absolute. The burka marginalizes women.”
She said many women who cover their face in public are being forced to by their husbands and family. As a result, she argued, these women are denied opportunities and cannot live freely as other women in this society.
“The Koran exhorts Muslims toward modesty, which can be expressed in a number of different ways and it doesn’t have to be that you have to cover your face or you have to wear a virtual tent wherever you go. This is not a requirement of Islam or the Koran. We are saying this practice has become a political issue promoted by extremists and to counter this trend we are asking for a ban on the burka.”
I think it´s right that burka should be banned, especially the saudi arabia/taliban style ones! However, I don´t think that all women are forced by their husbands to wear it, although their husbands surely enjoy their freedom and their wifes´ imprisonment. It´s not the burka that´s the root of the problem, it´s the overbearing, present everywhere sexism, objectification of women, patriarchal values that we are all brainwashed with from childhood. It is not truly liberating when women are forced to wear something, although I agree that some limits have to be set.
I think it´s right that burka should be banned, especially the saudi arabia/taliban style ones! However, I don´t think that all women are forced by their husbands to wear it, although their husbands surely enjoy their freedom and their wifes´ imprisonment. It´s not the burka that´s the root of the problem, it´s the overbearing, present everywhere sexism, objectification of women, patriarchal values that we are all brainwashed with from childhood. It is not truly liberating when women are forced to wear something, although I agree that some limits have to be set.
I totally agree with you.... I used to believe women did not have a place in society unless they take of that headscarf (either forced by families or husbands) and those baggy clothes (specially the black ones, and the veil..) But now living in Dubai, where you can see women from everywhere around the world living in peace, in different positions in companies or government jobs, and making even some friends, I realised that:
1. They are not necessarily forced by somebody, but choose for themselves.
2. They can be and are as intelligent, humorous and social as us.
3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.
In my conversations, they told me that they feel fully naked when they don´t wear a hijab (a head scarf), they are bullied in Europe, US, Canada and Australia (mainly), while every other person can enjoy their choice of clothing, wearing bikinis, or not wearing at all.
And I do believe while we support freedom in belief and speech, we have double standards when people believe in something that we don´t.
Is that fair?? To allow someone to wear a tiny bikini and not to allow someone a burquini (which covers the body and the hair)??? And why don´t we strip off the nuns as well, they are fully covered too?????
I do think when the face is covered, making identity very difficult, it´s going too far.
Quoting Merih
I totally agree with you.... I used to believe women did not have a place in society unless they take of that headscarf (either forced by families or husbands) and those baggy clothes (specially the black ones, and the veil..) But now living in Dubai, where you can see women from everywhere around the world living in peace, in different positions in companies or government jobs, and making even some friends, I realised that:
1. They are not necessarily forced by somebody, but choose for themselves.
2. They can be and are as intelligent, humorous and social as us.
3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.
In my conversations, they told me that they feel fully naked when they don´t wear a hijab (a head scarf), they are bullied in Europe, US, Canada and Australia (mainly), while every other person can enjoy their choice of clothing, wearing bikinis, or not wearing at all.
And I do believe while we support freedom in belief and speech, we have double standards when people believe in something that we don´t.
Is that fair?? To allow someone to wear a tiny bikini and not to allow someone a burquini (which covers the body and the hair)??? And why don´t we strip off the nuns as well, they are fully covered too?????
1. They are not necessarily forced by somebody, but choose for themselves.
2. They can be and are as intelligent, humorous and social as us.
3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.
In my conversations, they told me that they feel fully naked when they don´t wear a hijab (a head scarf), they are bullied in Europe, US, Canada and Australia (mainly), while every other person can enjoy their choice of clothing, wearing bikinis, or not wearing at all.
And I do believe while we support freedom in belief and speech, we have double standards when people believe in something that we don´t.
Is that fair?? To allow someone to wear a tiny bikini and not to allow someone a burquini (which covers the body and the hair)??? And why don´t we strip off the nuns as well, they are fully covered too?????
Whoooaaaa there! I have no idea which region of the world you´re referring to but I don´t know a European country that allows walking naked in the streets. As a matter of fact, I have never seen people in bikini in the street even in 35C heat, so, please, do not compare beach outfits with everyday clothing as it´s a missed comparison. Even following your line of reasoning, allowing burka in the evil west should happen at the same time countries like Saudi allow women to wear bikinis in the streets or walk around naked. Besides, you failed to acknowledge another factor of why burkas should be banned - the public safety issue. I don´t think it´s allowed to walk in the streets in a balaclava. Why should it be allowed to wear burka? If I´m not mistaken you may get in trouble in certain cities if you have a hoodie on your head, how´s that regarding personal freedom?
Although, as you write, women are not necessarily forced to wear these discriminatory clothes, how can a country that grants equality tell the difference between women forced to humiliate themselves consciously and those who are forced to it?
Believe it or not, you seem to have been in more conservative areas....in SF and NYC I have seen too much nakedness parading around in the streets. (for my taste anyway) I choose the word naked, rather than nude on purpose. Groan....it hurt my eyes! Some things are better covered. It´s not illegal in quite a few places, and more than a few take advantage of that "freedom"
You should come here and see what one sees during the summertime. I remember one time in NYC seeing a man wearing nothing but a gourd on his privates, a ladies wig on his knee walking down the street....everything else was bare...
I think we are getting somewhat confused with semantics. Burka???please define exactly what it is? Do you mean the Afghani thing with the grid over the eyes? I tried one of those on and really found it hard to see out of, and my eyelashes got stuck in the grid. I have no idea how those ladies manage. I have spoken with a few Afghani women who told me they had no problem with them, but I notice they do not wear them here. Wearing a long robe and head covering really should not present any problem IMHO.
Wearing something that covers ones face like a balaclava is something else and I certainly understand why people would be upset about them.
I undersand how some women may feel more comfortable wearing a covering. It´s sort of like going out but not being out. Like having an invisibility cloak...but when they are in Western countries, they shouldn´t expect it.
If you ever wore one of the all covering things, you might find your feelings change. In the "West" we are used to seeing more physicality of individuals. In the Burka wearing societies, other things are seen.
They are very recognizable by their movement and posture.
You see things you do not see when you are looking at the same women in Western garments.
Quoting Daydreamer
Whoooaaaa there! I have no idea which region of the world you´re referring to but I don´t know a European country that allows walking naked in the streets. As a matter of fact, I have never seen people in bikini in the street even in 35C heat, so, please, do not compare beach outfits with everyday clothing as it´s a missed comparison. Even following your line of reasoning, allowing burka in the evil west should happen at the same time countries like Saudi allow women to wear bikinis in the streets or walk around naked. Besides, you failed to acknowledge another factor of why burkas should be banned - the public safety issue. I don´t think it´s allowed to walk in the streets in a balaclava. Why should it be allowed to wear burka? If I´m not mistaken you may get in trouble in certain cities if you have a hoodie on your head, how´s that regarding personal freedom?
Although, as you write, women are not necessarily forced to wear these discriminatory clothes, how can a country that grants equality tell the difference between women forced to humiliate themselves consciously and those who are forced to it?
Whoooaaaa there! I have no idea which region of the world you´re referring to but I don´t know a European country that allows walking naked in the streets. As a matter of fact, I have never seen people in bikini in the street even in 35C heat, so, please, do not compare beach outfits with everyday clothing as it´s a missed comparison.
I guess you have never been to Turkey, go to Antalya, Bodrum, Alanya, etc... I guarantee you see people in bikinis and swimming clothes shopping from the supermarkets, eating in reastaurant, topless women lying in the beach, in front of families and kids,like the most natural thing in the world.
It´s not only bikinis. I am living in a Muslim Arab country, but I still see people in the supermarket, and sometimes in the malls, with very tiny tank tops and tiny mini shorts which exposes half of their buttocks.
And are you telling me you don´t see them in Europe? Well, may be you need some glasses.
Even following your line of reasoning, allowing burka in the evil west should happen at the same time countries like Saudi allow women to wear bikinis in the streets or walk around naked. Besides, you failed to acknowledge another factor of why burkas should be banned - the public safety issue. I don´t think it´s allowed to walk in the streets in a balaclava. Why should it be allowed to wear burka? If I´m not mistaken you may get in trouble in certain cities if you have a hoodie on your head, how´s that regarding personal freedom?
I am not a supporter of Saudi Arabia, yet they never talk about freedom like you people do. You are the ones who pushes everything to the limits and want everything to be free for you. You can be Gay and get married, you can make fun of every religion and every important thing other people care about, but when it comes to freedom of belief in particularly Islam, and covering your hair, and wearing clothes that doesn´t show your curves, breasts and body, your support of freedom ends there.
Although, as you write, women are not necessarily forced to wear these discriminatory clothes, how can a country that grants equality tell the difference between women forced to humiliate themselves consciously and those who are forced to it?
So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.
You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND.
I hope I haven´t been too hateful... but I don´t like people to force me neither to cover up nor open up....
I hope I haven´t been too hateful... but I don´t like people to force me neither to cover up nor open up....
Freedom is for everyone.
It seems you are unable to rationally discuss this - you are comparing a burka to a bikini, instead of everyday clothes that people wear - the majority of which would satisfy the Quran´s requirement! As this muslim group in Canada are saying, the burka has nothing to do with the Quran and more to do with men´s jealousy.
If you live in an arab country, then you must be aware that such "rules" create extremes. It is common to see women shopping in their burkas for their tiny mini skirts, sexy tops and lingerie (much of which would be too tarty even for the west!! ) and going home to play the slut for their demanding husbands. If you support this hypocracy then fine, but please dont call it "freedom for everyone"
It seems you are unable to rationally discuss this - you are comparing a burka to a bikini, instead of everyday clothes that people wear - the majority of which would satisfy the Quran´s requirement! As this muslim group in Canada are saying, the burka has nothing to do with the Quran and more to do with men´s jealousy.
If you live in an arab country, then you must be aware that such "rules" create extremes. It is common to see women shopping in their burkas for their tiny mini skirts, sexy tops and lingerie (much of which would be too tarty even for the west!! ) and going home to play the slut for their demanding husbands. If you support this hypocracy then fine, but please dont call it "freedom for everyone"
I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it. And for those women in Canada,
the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help?
Because this is what they want.
Of course I am not talking about Saudi, Iran or Afghanistan, where you are forced to.
But why can´t your minds understand that some people believe in Islam, and do as their religion requires.
Well, I see lots of westerners as well here in Dubai..... you wouldn´t believe what they are wearing. And why can´t a women in an Abbaya (it is a long, very expensive black lose dress, comes with a matching black head scarf) shops for lingerie and shares fantasies with her husband? Why would you call her a slut? Don´t you do with your husband or boyfriend?
Is the only way to exist as a not humiliated woman is to open up?
And I was not comparing bikini with the normal clothes, but actually comparing it with a burquini - which is an Islamic swimwear - that was banned in France??????????
Could you tell me why you can go to the pool half naked, but not allowed if you are covered???
And why doesn´t anybody get bothered about nuns? the clothes are very similar, are you going to strip them off in Canada too? I don´t think so.
I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it. And for those women in Canada,
the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help?
Because this is what they want.
Of course the government protects women in Burkas - the west is far to busy being "politically correct". It is MUSLIMS who have called for this ban!
Quoting Merih
But why can´t your minds understand that some people believe in Islam, and do as their religion requires.
Again - it is the MUSLIM COMMUNITY in Canada who are calling for this ban. Where did I say that I don´t understand that people believe in Islam? A burka has nothing to do with Islam - just men´s jealousy taking "covering your ornaments" to mean COVERING YOURSELF COMPLETELY because they are so insanely insecure that they cannot bear the thought of men looking at their "property".
Quoting Merih
And why doesn´t anybody get bothered about nuns? the clothes are very similar, are you going to strip them off in Canada too? I don´t think so.
Haha you are very naive if you compare Nun´s habit with Burka. A nun wears those clothes out of her own personal choice, lives with other women, and NEVER changes out of those clothes into sexy ones as soon as the doors are closed. She is doing it solely for her belief and her clothes do not hinder her movement - her face is not covered.
As to your objection of my word "slut" - the hypocracy of the change in dress smacks of it. But perhaps I was a bit harsh - there is a big difference between natural, mutual sexuality and enforced sexuality. Anything that is expected and demanded of a woman sexually is not a mutual thing between husband and wife, as you so romantically put it, but verges on rape and dominance.
Don´t use your "islam" card to defend this issue - muslims all over the word disagree with the burka.
Edited (10/14/2009) by _AE_
[Offfff written hastily during a work meeting - excuse grammar and any spelling!!!!]
Just a quickie, the woman in France was not allowed to a swimming pool just as I wouldn´t be allowed there in jeans and turtle-neck. Whould you support my right to bathe in those?
"So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.
You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND".
Yes, I think it´s humiliating for a woman to be forced to wear a bag for the comfort of men. Are you saying burka is for the protection of women? Not to make men with low self-esteem more assured that their women (I used the possessive pronoun here on purpose) remain theirs? Why it´s bad for women to show their face? Why men shouldn´t be veiled?
Oh, so freedom to decide whether to show your legs or your cleavage or not is what turns women into a piece of meat? I thought that considering them nothing but a stimulus for men´s sins does.
How can you be so blind to see that women who dress inappropriately in your view do so of choice, there is no huband/society/father behind it to tell them a woman must look slutty. They wear what they want, nobody is forced to do so. A lot of burka-wearing ladies suffer consequences if they dare not to wrap themselves up like a present that they owner can unwrap only.
I´d be perfectly fine with headscarf - it´s not dangerous in terms of public safety - if only worn by choice. Burkas (or niqabs) are nothing but a yore men put on women because it´s more convenient for them this way.
true, I don´t know what women in NY wear and it sure is hard for me to imagine somebody would come out wearing just a thingy on his genitals. In Europe (and I have seen quite a part of it) I have never seen bikini-wearing or nude people in the streets. Sure, many girls wear tiny tops and tiny skirts but that´s what they choose to wear and I don´t see how it´s wrong? I imagine you´ll give me the media argument. But it´s not an obligation, is it?
What is wrong with wearing a mini skirt at work? Although, I don´t think all jobs allow it. Most have dress codes. And the idea that only the beautiful and slutty get jobs is ridiculous. As a matter of fact a lot of beautiful women with brains suffer because people like you focus only on the outside and put their success down to their looks not their brains...You are full of prejudice my friend
Thanks for calling me a lier, in your mouth it is a compliment. Burka is freedom, freedom to wear what you choose is not. Right
Just a quickie, the woman in France was not allowed to a swimming pool just as I wouldn´t be allowed there in jeans and turtle-neck. Whould you support my right to bathe in those?
"So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.
You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND".
Yes, I think it´s humiliating for a woman to be forced to wear a bag for the comfort of men. Are you saying burka is for the protection of women? Not to make men with low self-esteem more assured that their women (I used the possessive pronoun here on purpose) remain theirs? Why it´s bad for women to show their face? Why men shouldn´t be veiled?
Oh, so freedom to decide whether to show your legs or your cleavage or not is what turns women into a piece of meat? I thought that considering them nothing but a stimulus for men´s sins does.
How can you be so blind to see that women who dress inappropriately in your view do so of choice, there is no huband/society/father behind it to tell them a woman must look slutty. They wear what they want, nobody is forced to do so. A lot of burka-wearing ladies suffer consequences if they dare not to wrap themselves up like a present that they owner can unwrap only.
I´d be perfectly fine with headscarf - it´s not dangerous in terms of public safety - if only worn by choice. Burkas (or niqabs) are nothing but a yore men put on women because it´s more convenient for them this way.
true, I don´t know what women in NY wear and it sure is hard for me to imagine somebody would come out wearing just a thingy on his genitals. In Europe (and I have seen quite a part of it) I have never seen bikini-wearing or nude people in the streets. Sure, many girls wear tiny tops and tiny skirts but that´s what they choose to wear and I don´t see how it´s wrong? I imagine you´ll give me the media argument. But it´s not an obligation, is it?
What is wrong with wearing a mini skirt at work? Although, I don´t think all jobs allow it. Most have dress codes. And the idea that only the beautiful and slutty get jobs is ridiculous. As a matter of fact a lot of beautiful women with brains suffer because people like you focus only on the outside and put their success down to their looks not their brains...You are full of prejudice my friend
Thanks for calling me a lier, in your mouth it is a compliment. Burka is freedom, freedom to wear what you choose is not. Right
Burqa - does not cover the face, niqab or pardah covers the face.
Quoting Merih
I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it. And for those women in Canada,
the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help?
Because this is what they want.
Of course the government protects women in Burkas - the west is far to busy being "politically correct". It is MUSLIMS who have called for this ban!
"Violance against woman, Australia says no"
This is valid in Australia, and if I were to call the hotline provided, they would help me, provide me a space, provide food, and money / a job until I am well off. No matter if I am Muslim or not. No matter if I am wearing an Abaya / Burqa or not.
Quoting Merih
But why can´t your minds understand that some people believe in Islam, and do as their religion requires.
Again - it is the MUSLIM COMMUNITY in Canada who are calling for this ban. Where did I say that I don´t understand that people believe in Islam? A burka has nothing to do with Islam - just men´s jealousy taking "covering your ornaments" to mean COVERING YOURSELF COMPLETELY because they are so insanely insecure that they cannot bear the thought of men looking at their "property".
So people can only believe in Islam according to your terms and rules, and there is no way they can believe and wear an Abaya / Burqa because they want to.
Very good!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoting Merih
And why doesn´t anybody get bothered about nuns? the clothes are very similar, are you going to strip them off in Canada too? I don´t think so.
Quoting _AE_
Haha you are very naive if you compare Nun´s habit with Burka. A nun wears those clothes out of her own personal choice, lives with other women, and NEVER changes out of those clothes into sexy ones as soon as the doors are closed. She is doing it solely for her belief and her clothes do not hinder her movement - her face is not covered.
So a nun can do it only because of her believes, but when a Muslim women does it, it is because she is forced, and she is a slut in bed,
For you information, Islam does not call any women or men not to marry if they are going to follow Islam strictly. It allows you to maintain a normal life with belief. And believe me if it did, they would not be married and living with other women like nuns.
As to your objection of my word "slut" - the hypocracy of the change in dress smacks of it. But perhaps I was a bit harsh - there is a big difference between natural, mutual sexuality and enforced sexuality. Anything that is expected and demanded of a woman sexually is not a mutual thing between husband and wife, as you so romantically put it, but verges on rape and dominance.
I think you have been wandering in the bedrooms of these women so that you know it is not normal sex but a rape and dominance every single tim. What you don´t understand is, a women is allowed to show her beauties and share her fantasies with her husband, so she can wear mini skirts or any kind of lingerie.
You are not the one to set the rules what a Muslim women can wear in her bedroom.
Don´t use your "islam" card to defend this issue - muslims all over the word disagree with the burka.
Like I said before, the burqa does not cover the face. The niqab or pardah does. And what the Muslims are against is the veil on the face, not the Abaya/ Burqa.. and if all the Muslims were against it, then who would be wearing it and why would you be worried?
Just a quickie, the woman in France was not allowed to a swimming pool just as I wouldn´t be allowed there in jeans and turtle-neck. Whould you support my right to bathe in those?
Not exactly.. burquini is a swimwear, that you only wear it for swimming, made of the same swim material as bikinis, only a covered one. If you think it is the same thing as your turtle neck and jeans, you are wrong. And are you saying that to be able to swim you have to get naked? Come on, be fair to yourself at least.
"So you think a women is humiliated when she doesn´t show her body shape, and her beauty to every man possible on earth, and they are great when they flirt with everyone, show their body to everyone, and satisfy your eyes.
You know what, people like you have turned the women into a piece of meat, and if you are telling me that you don´t notice a womens mini skirt at work, or her breasts in a very generous top and choose a more beautiful women rather than a fat one to employ, YOU ARE A LIAR MY FRIEND".
Yes, I think it´s humiliating for a woman to be forced to wear a bag for the comfort of men. Are you saying burka is for the protection of women? Not to make men with low self-esteem more assured that their women (I used the possessive pronoun here on purpose) remain theirs? Why it´s bad for women to show their face? Why men shouldn´t be veiled?
I agree if they are forced. What if they are not? And I am definiteley against the face veil by the way.
Oh, so freedom to decide whether to show your legs or your cleavage or not is what turns women into a piece of meat? I thought that considering them nothing but a stimulus for men´s sins does.
I am saying that today´s society is forcing today´s women´s clothes, body image, hair color, everything. And believe me it is stronger than a husband, or a family.
How can you be so blind to see that women who dress inappropriately in your view do so of choice, there is no huband/society/father behind it to tell them a woman must look slutty. They wear what they want, nobody is forced to do so. A lot of burka-wearing ladies suffer consequences if they dare not to wrap themselves up like a present that they owner can unwrap only.
And how do you know it? Please, did you talk to every one of those women who are wearing Abayas? Because I talked to, and I know lots of westerners in where I live, who were women like you, and married some very rich Arabs from here, (sometimes second wife), happily showing off their very expensive Abaya´s, and believe me they are as clever and educated as yourselves, but nobody is ever complaining.
I´d be perfectly fine with headscarf - it´s not dangerous in terms of public safety - if only worn by choice. Burkas (or niqabs) are nothing but a yore men put on women because it´s more convenient for them this way.
So, may be we should change Islam according to your views. Please list how would you like the Muslim women to be dressed, and may be how to practice their religion too??? What would be more public safe?
true, I don´t know what women in NY wear and it sure is hard for me to imagine somebody would come out wearing just a thingy on his genitals. In Europe (and I have seen quite a part of it) I have never seen bikini-wearing or nude people in the streets. Sure, many girls wear tiny tops and tiny skirts but that´s what they choose to wear and I don´t see how it´s wrong? I imagine you´ll give me the media argument. But it´s not an obligation, is it?
I have no problems with women who wear tiny sexy clothes, and I have no problem who prefer not to wear them. You have the problem. You think they are allowed to choose, but the others are not public-safe. Do you hear what you are saying?
What is wrong with wearing a mini skirt at work? Although, I don´t think all jobs allow it. Most have dress codes. And the idea that only the beautiful and slutty get jobs is ridiculous. As a matter of fact a lot of beautiful women with brains suffer because people like you focus only on the outside and put their success down to their looks not their brains...You are full of prejudice my friend
Well, no women suffer because they are only beautiful, they suffer when they show their privates to everyone in public and flirt with everyone instead of showing off their brains.
Thanks for calling me a lier, in your mouth it is a compliment. Burka is freedom, freedom to wear what you choose is not. Right
I think freedom is freedom, it does not choose color, race and religion. You want to wear a mini skirt, wear it, and allow the other one to wear what they want. Live and let live... You can´t have freedom one sided.
By the way, I am not a burqa wearing woman, I don´t cover my head, and I don´t wear Muslim clothings. But I do think if I have a right not to wear, then there should exist the right to wear.
And you don´t have jealous husbands, pushy families in Europe, in US, in Canada or else where? The women never get raped by their husbands??? The husbands never force you to wear in a particular way?? ETC..
There are bad people everywhere, and you can not group them only as the husbands or the father´s of burqa wearing women?
And the practice in a well known Arab country - is not correct, they are abusive and male oriented. Women has no name,and I condemn them to encourage extremism of islam.
Burqa - does not cover the face, niqab or pardah covers the face.
Quoting Merih
I don´t care what those people say in Canada, but I know a lot of woman who choose to wear it. And for those women in Canada,
the system is so great, the government will protect those women in case they call the authorities for such a push, why nobody asks for help?
Because this is what they want.
The way you reply makes it impossible to quote you point by point - but I get the feeling it is a wasted exercise anyway. Go on with your misguided belief that burkas are part of Islam if that makes you happy canim - you are not worth any more of my time
And you don´t have jealous husbands, pushy families in Europe, in US, in Canada or else where? The women never get raped by their husbands??? The husbands never force you to wear in a particular way?? ETC..
There are bad people everywhere, and you can not group them only as the husbands or the father´s of burqa wearing women?
And the practice in a well known Arab country - is not correct, they are abusive and male oriented. Women has no name,and I condemn them to encourage extremism of islam.
Yes there are bad men everywhere - but to support a culture which persists in the degradation of women and regards them as possessions and second class citizens really does not help women does it?
How many women actually wear a burka in Canada? Most people say burka when they mean nijab. I´ve never EVER seen a burka for real in my life. A burka even closes the eyes of a woman..so seriously, how many women would a burka-ban affect?
How many women actually wear a burka in Canada? Most people say burka when they mean nijab. I´ve never EVER seen a burka for real in my life. A burka even closes the eyes of a woman..so seriously, how many women would a burka-ban affect?
It´s so cold in Canada anyway! In the winter, with all the clothes, hats and other coverings.....a burka would probably just be easier!
Just a little aside....I believe ski masks are still legal! However, if you see someone walking around in a public place with one on, chances are you will think you are going to get mugged!!
Every one is responsible for their own lives, and if noone is asking for help, who are we to try to save them.
Wouldn´t it be like Iraq, to save them from a chaos and bring in another chaos, and worse than before???
Merih, I think in a perfect world, we can tolerate eachother with no problems....but this is not a perfect world and in the world there are people who do not have good intentions. Unfortunately, in our world, burka´s do not say, "I am friendly and tolerant."
Merih, I think in a perfect world, we can tolerate eachother with no problems....but this is not a perfect world and in the world there are people who do not have good intentions. Unfortunately, in our world, burka´s do not say, "I am friendly and tolerant."
I do understand that.. that´s very kind of you. I have this discussion with even my own mum, and my aunt, both well educated, brought up in Turkey.. and they can´t tolerate at all. No surprise you people don´t like it and I totally understand that.
............. It is common to see women shopping in their burkas for their tiny mini skirts, sexy tops and lingerie (much of which would be too tarty even for the west!! ) and going home to play the slut for their demanding husbands. If you support this hypocracy then fine, but please dont call it "freedom for everyone"
ummm......I don´t think a wife dressing and acting in a way to have fun with her husband constitutes being a slut...........how Victorian of you. I am surprised at you.
Yes there are bad men everywhere - but to support a culture which persists in the degradation of women and regards them as possessions and second class citizens really does not help women does it?
Bad men exist everywhere.....but I think you are confusing cultures and put the blame in the wrong place. Do you think being a pimp to one´s women is good? In many cultures women are used to sell products.....now what do you call that....I´d call it pimping.
It seems you are unable to rationally discuss this - you are comparing a burka to a bikini, instead of everyday clothes that people wear - the majority of which would satisfy the Quran´s requirement! As this muslim group in Canada are saying, the burka has nothing to do with the Quran and more to do with men´s jealousy.
I´m happy to see you have read and understand that the total covering is not an Islamic rule....I´m sure you realize this tradition did not origin with Islamic culture....
Actually the first documentation of female veiling appears to come out of the rights of Isis...who said "No man has seen my face"...initiates to her cult covered their faces....that cult spread throughout the Mediterranean. She became Our Lady of Byblos, Demeter........and so on....
3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.
Yes, thats also kind of traditional wearing of Arab women but the wrong thing is to impose this wearing as an order of Islam which is the case mostly and to label women as nonmuslims who do not wear it. Islam firstly advices modesty, and wearing according to this, is kinda relativity that diversifies from environment to environment, society to society and culture to culture. I can understand anyone has right to wear anything freely if it does not restrict the freedom of others but i am against if this type of wearing is used for politically like a uniform or a symbol and if burka is forced on women to oppress them which are those some of the case we encounter unfortunately. So i happen to agree with AE & DD who were i think criticizing these situations.
Look....even Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush and Queen Elizabeth are wearing veils! I must admit, they are not the all covering burqas though. ....but one can see the link to an older tradition.
Look....even Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush and Queen Elizabeth are wearing veils! I must admit, they are not the all covering burqas though. ....but one can see the link to an older tradition.
My grandmother always wore a veil to church....but nobody ever forced her to. She did it out of her sense of tradition. I definately don´t have a problem with covering if it is your choice.....but I whole heartedly agree that many women who wear burkas are forced to be a certain way in a male dominated society. I had the opportunity to spend time in Saudi Arabia and women MUST wear a burka or they can get in a lot of trouble with the religious police....who are EVERYWHERE!
Perhaps many western women don´t understand why a woman would choose to wear one here in the west because it is not required. It is hard to understand why someone would voluntarily wear one. To us western women it is a symbol of oppression.
women MUST wear a burka or they can get in a lot of trouble with the religious police....who are EVERYWHERE!
This is only valid for muslim women in KSA, if you are not, you dont need to wear burqa or cover your head. Further to this mostly Saudi women wear veil, Masri women do not, even Jordanian women do not cover their heads thats what i observed so far. I have also seen a group of Saudi women beating mutavva
3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.
Yes, thats also kind of traditional wearing of Arab women but the wrong thing is to impose this wearing as an order of Islam which is the case mostly and to label women as nonmuslims who do not wear it. Islam firstly advices modesty, and wearing according to this, is kinda relativity that diversifies from environment to environment, society to society and culture to culture. I can understand anyone has right to wear anything freely if it does not restrict the freedom of others but i am against if this type of wearing is used for politically like a uniform or a symbol and if burka is forced on women to oppress them which are those some of the case we encounter unfortunately. So i happen to agree with AE & DD who were i think criticizing these situations.
did the hell freeze or what?
Thank you, A that´s exactly what I meant
Merih - of course some women are happy to be wife number two or three, just as some are happy to be hit and abused by their husbands/boyfriends. Some are happy to marry whoever their family sold them to and some prefer their future not to depend on the amount of goats their prospective husband is willing to pay. The point is that law should be the same for everyone and gave the same protection and chances to everyone. If you come from a family that lets you decide what to wear, it´s no problem but what if your family forces you to wear burka (ok, I always say burka when I mean niquab, they´re basically the same for me) don´t you think that unless the country you live in supports you, you can´t win? I see where the Canadian Muslims are coming from, it´s means of stopping radicals from enslaving their daughters/wives. And they have a point there.
Regarding burkini, it does not resemble swimwear and it´s basically no different from jeans and turtle-neck. Where did I imply that I am in favour of swimming naked? Swimsuits work just fine. And they don´t have to be bikinis, there´s a lot of choice these days
3. The burqa is sometimes the national dress code.
Yes, thats also kind of traditional wearing of Arab women but the wrong thing is to impose this wearing as an order of Islam which is the case mostly and to label women as nonmuslims who do not wear it. Islam firstly advices modesty, and wearing according to this, is kinda relativity that diversifies from environment to environment, society to society and culture to culture. I can understand anyone has right to wear anything freely if it does not restrict the freedom of others but i am against if this type of wearing is used for politically like a uniform or a symbol and if burka is forced on women to oppress them which are those some of the case we encounter unfortunately. So i happen to agree with AE & DD who were i think criticizing these situations.
Yes, I know it exist in Turkey,lots of women, wearing hijab or burqas:
May offend you, by saying you are not a Muslim,
They may use it as a political uniform
They may get paid to wear so,
But it doesn´t mean you can jugde everyone with the same view.
In Arab countries Abaya / Burqa is a national dress, and it is Islamic too. That is what the previous Muslim women were wearing.
And believe me if you were living in 50 degrees plus %80 humidity 6 months of the year, you wouldn´t want to wear anything tight or open.
Burka national dress and historic?!?!?!!!! Headscarfs may have been, but burka?!?!
In my country women used to wear big crinoline dresses - does that mean we should wear them now?
for once, I have to agree with you.
in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.
and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.
in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.
and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.
Well, the story I heard is actually different.
When Ataturk was changing the dress code for the country, - which is a big big thing -, these women in this particular village did not want to change. But Ataturk did want his countryto look like the European countries. So the village council declared that all the prostitues will have to wear a burqa whenever they go out, otherwise they will be punished. After that all the respectable women took of their abayas and head scarves.
in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.
and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.
This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.[citation needed]
Burka national dress and historic?!?!?!!!! Headscarfs may have been, but burka?!?!
In my country women used to wear big crinoline dresses - does that mean we should wear them now?
No, but if they did, would you ban it by law and humiliate them???????????? Would you tell them that they don´t have identities, or choices, or sluts in bed? C´mon!!!!
This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.[citation needed]
we are not talking about a simple veil. you can`t compare today`s burka to the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate. a veil used for protection does not dictate people not to expose their hair in any way.
we are not talking about a simple veil. you can`t compare today`s burka to the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate. a veil used for protection does not dictate people not to expose their hair in any way.
For God´s sake, what are you discussing, first you said Burqa is not a national dress, but what the prostitutes wear.. now I prove it has a history long before Islam as a national dress, now you say you can´t compare... can you follow what you are saying? Please check the website provided for the full description of what a burqa is and was.. then we can discuss later.
For God´s sake, what are you discussing, first you said Burqa is not a national dress, but what the prostitutes wear.. now I prove it has a history long before Islam as a national dress, now you say you can´t compare... can you follow what you are saying? Please check the website provided for the full description of what a burqa is and was.. then we can discuss later.
when did I say it wasn`t a national dress? of course it` s a national dress in a few countries like iran, what Im saying is it`s not a traditional dress code. you`re talking about the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate and argue that it`s what makes burka traditional. how can you say that everywhere in Arabia is desert? you think people wore burka in the cities before islam, if you argue that it is a pre-islamic tradition? for what reason?
and you proved me that it has a history long before islam as a national dress? there wasn`t anything "national" before the French revolution.
when did I say it wasn`t a national dress? of course it` s a national dress in a few countries like iran, what Im saying is it`s not a traditional dress code. you`re talking about the veil people used to protect themselves from the desert climate and argue that it`s what makes burka traditional. how can you say that everywhere in Arabia is desert? you think people wore burka in the cities before islam, if you argue that it is a pre-islamic tradition? for what reason?
and you proved me that it has a history long before islam as a national dress? there wasn`t anything "national" before the French revolution.
You can, and I suggest you do, zoom in very close in, particular eyes area. If you do you will see these garment is almost an exact duplicate of garments worn in Arabia today.
This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.[citation needed]
pfff...like I said before, that statue that you can see a link of above here, that´s not a burqa. You could describe it perhaps as a nijab, but it´s not a burqa... i don´t think anybody outside of afghanistan has seen a burqa.
Both the scultures show a burqa....or what you would call a niqab....and abaya.........I think the point of the original source of this discourse was the objection to the obstruction of identity....as caused by face covering....and in particular the claim that it is demanded by Islam.
The sculptures show this tradition was in practice long before the advent of Islamic civilization, and as such did not have origins in Islam.
.............and for your interest, I have seen, and actually have a burqa....and a niqab....and an abaya....not that I wear them.....and for those who don´t like Wikipedia....this information was told to me in person by more than a few persons native to the Arabian Gulf.
Quoting barba_mama
pfff...like I said before, that statue that you can see a link of above here, that´s not a burqa. You could describe it perhaps as a nijab, but it´s not a burqa... i don´t think anybody outside of afghanistan has seen a burqa.
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I´d love to read more of her research. I might point out just what or who an Arab is...or who anyone is seems to be fluid. The fact of the matter is ancient Sumer was in what is now Arab land.....
........some Lebanese call themselves Phoenecians..which is interesting because it seems to me there are quite a few others who could call themselves by the same name. Map
FWIW.....I have even met some who claim to be Assyrians......Hmmm....I wonder what their relationship is to Assyria....What´s in a name...evidently....quite a lot!.......I guess the name dictates the sweetness of the smell......for some.
Quoting mhsn supertitiz
for once, I have to agree with you.
in fact according to Muazzez Ilmiye Cig who is one of the few sumerian experts around the world, burka was the traditional dress code of Sumerian prostitutes while Arabs didn`t have such an outfit at the time.
and actually, if you go to the remote villages in Anatolia you will not be able to see any single woman wearing burka.they only wear a simple headscarf which can be seen in the villages of europe as well.
A RADICAL Muslim group sparked outrage last night as it launched a massive campaign to impose sharia law on Britain.
The fanatical group Islam4UK has announced plans to hold a potentially incendiary rally in London later this month. And it is calling for a complete upheaval of the British legal system, its officials and legislation. Members have urged Muslims from all over Britain to converge on the capital on October 31 for a procession to demand the full implementation of sharia law. On a website to promote their cause they deride British institutions, showing a mock-up picture of Nelson’s Column surmounted by a minaret. Plans for the demonstration have been delivered to the Metropolitan Police and could see up to 5,000 extremists marching to demand the controversial system.
The procession – dubbed March 4 Shari’ah – will start at the House of Commons, which the group’s website describes as the “very place where the lives of millions of people in the UK are changed and it is from here where unjust wars are launched”. The group then intends to march to 10 Downing Street and “call for the removal of the tyrant Gordon Brown from power”. The march will then converge on Trafalgar Square where protesters expect it “will gather even more support from tourists and members of the public, making clear in the heart of London the need for Shari’ah in society”.
The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.
“On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”
The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.
“On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”
Have they thought of moving somewhere that has Sharia law in place already? They sound very unhappy! I am fairly sure that Britian would be very happy to arrange their boat trip to the Sharia loving country of their choice!
Have they thought of moving somewhere that has Sharia law in place already? They sound very unhappy! I am fairly sure that Britian would be very happy to arrange their boat trip to the Sharia loving country of their choice!
A RADICAL Muslim group sparked outrage last night as it launched a massive campaign to impose sharia law on Britain.
The fanatical group Islam4UK has announced plans to hold a potentially incendiary rally in London later this month. And it is calling for a complete upheaval of the British legal system, its officials and legislation. Members have urged Muslims from all over Britain to converge on the capital on October 31 for a procession to demand the full implementation of sharia law. On a website to promote their cause they deride British institutions, showing a mock-up picture of Nelson’s Column surmounted by a minaret. Plans for the demonstration have been delivered to the Metropolitan Police and could see up to 5,000 extremists marching to demand the controversial system.
The procession – dubbed March 4 Shari’ah – will start at the House of Commons, which the group’s website describes as the “very place where the lives of millions of people in the UK are changed and it is from here where unjust wars are launched”. The group then intends to march to 10 Downing Street and “call for the removal of the tyrant Gordon Brown from power”. The march will then converge on Trafalgar Square where protesters expect it “will gather even more support from tourists and members of the public, making clear in the heart of London the need for Shari’ah in society”.
The group declared: “We hereby request all Muslims in the United Kingdom, in Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, Glasgow and all other places to join us and collectively declare that as submitters to Almighty Allah, we have had enough of democracy and man-made law and the depravity of the British culture.
“On this day we will call for a complete upheaval of the British ruling system its members and legislature, and demand the full implementation of Shari’ah in Britain.”
Where is the uproar? What has happened to this nation, founded upon the freedom to worship as one pleases?
Oh. Turns out it´s a bunch of Muslims trying to get together and pray. How dare they!
About 50,000 people were expected at an event in Washington, D.C. Friday afternoon called "Islam on Capitol Hill." Muslims will participate in Jummah Prayer (also known as Jumu´ah, Jum´ah or Friday Prayer), a traditional weekly gathering at a mosque during which Muslims ask for forgiveness for the previous week´s transgressions. A reading from the Koran is also planned, followed by a reception.
The AFA´s main problem is supposedly that the organizer of the event is a lawyer who has represented people involved with terrorist activities. Now while that might turn a stomach or two, mass murderers and serial rapists are also represented by lawyers, who are charged with providing everyone representation regardless of what public opinion might be. A vocation certainly shouldn´t preclude a person from praying.
The AFA also objects to several political statements by the man who will be reading from the Koran, Sheik Ahmed Dewidar. The organizers note that Dewidar "stood shoulder to shoulder with U.S. President George W. Bush and UN Secretary General Kofi Anan at Ground Zero as Imam of the Islamic Center in Mid-Manhattan to speak on behalf of the Muslim community to condemn the September 11 attacks" and that he will merely be reading Islamic religious text at the event.
On September 25, 2009 from 4am until 7pm, a National Day of Prayer for the Muslim religion will be held on Capitol Hill, beside the White House. As a Christian, it makes me really wonder where the REAL direction of this country is headed. Well in fact I can clearly see where this nation is headed... into the service of Baal / Allah / Lucifer, what ever name you wish to put on him.
"It is important for Christians to understand that Friday’s Muslim prayer initiative is part of a well-defined strategy to Islamize American society and replace the Bible with the Koran, the cross with the Islamic crescent and the church bells with the Athan [the Muslim call to prayer]," said Rev. Canon Julian Dobbs, leader of the Convocation of Anglicans in North America’s Church and Islam Project, in a written statement.
Among other falsities they debunk, Fact Check notes that the event is not secretive and that the mainstream media is not ignoring it. They write that the only connection the event has with Obama is that the organizer was inspired to initiate it by the openness of the president´s inauguration speech. He said "for the first time in my lifetime I heard someone of his stature speaking about Islam and Muslims not in an adversarial sense, but in the sense of being welcome and acknowledging we are integral citizens in the society."
Isn´t it too bad that these people have to prove him wrong?
Not only is the Christian right being disingenuous about this issue, they´re also being downright hypocritical. Everything I read from sources condemning the event compared Obama´s supposed support for the Islam on Capitol Hill event with his supposed betrayal of National Prayer Day. Obama has nothing to do with the Muslim event, nor did he do so much as issue a statement about it. The president won´t even be in Washington today. He´s not expected to return from Pittsburgh, where he´s attending the G20 summit, until well after the prayer events have concluded.
The religious right has been licking fake wounds from National Prayer Day since May. As I noted during the ridiculous uproar over President Obama only issuing a statement (as opposed to attending the Washington event where he wouldn´t be allowed to speak by organizers), National Prayer Day is far from inclusive:
Reading the task force´s mission statement, one would think Christians invented prayer. It is unabashedly Christianand clearly sets its sights on the seat of power in this country (emphasis mine):
The National Day of Prayer Task Force´s mission is to communicate with every individual the need for personal repentance and prayer, mobilizing the Christian community to intercede for America and its leadership in the seven centers of power: Government, Military, Media, Business, Education, Church and Family.
Christian demonstration in Duhuk calls for self-rule
October 2, 2008 - 01:29:28
DUHUK / Aswat al-Iraq: Some 10,000 Christians demonstrated in the northern Iraq city of Duhuk on Thursday demanding a self-rule in their areas and restore an article granting them representation in local councils to the law on provincial elections. “The demonstrators will present an official memo to the local authorities in Duhuk province to back their efforts and help them demand the rights of our people,” Jamal Zeno, the chief of the Chaldo-Assyrian Popular Council, told Aswat al-Iraq. “The demonstrations will continue and calls to have self-rule for the Chaldeo-Assyrian people in their areas included into the constitution will never stop,” Zeno said.
Christian demonstration in Duhuk calls for self-rule
October 2, 2008 - 01:29:28
DUHUK / Aswat al-Iraq: Some 10,000 Christians demonstrated in the northern Iraq city of Duhuk on Thursday demanding a self-rule in their areas and restore an article granting them representation in local councils to the law on provincial elections. “The demonstrators will present an official memo to the local authorities in Duhuk province to back their efforts and help them demand the rights of our people,” Jamal Zeno, the chief of the Chaldo-Assyrian Popular Council, told Aswat al-Iraq. “The demonstrations will continue and calls to have self-rule for the Chaldeo-Assyrian people in their areas included into the constitution will never stop,” Zeno said.
And why not?? If we can build Mosques and Hindu temples etc in the UK why not build churches in a Muslim country?
there are already churches in Iraq libralady. and that`s why you shouldn`t believe anything the christian media says.
Yes I know, I saw a documentary about a preacher who feared for his life on a daily basis because of his belief. He had established a church for the Christian ex pats living there. I did not say Iraq on purpose, I wrote Muslim countries.......
The government says it will appeal against a ruling that US intelligence documents detailing the alleged torture of an ex-UK resident can be released.
Ethiopian-born Binyam Mohamed, 31, who spent four years in Guantanamo Bay, claims British authorities colluded in his torture while he was in Morocco.
The UK government, which stopped judges publishing the claims on national security grounds, denies any collusion.
A US State Department spokesman said it was "not pleased" by the court ruling.
Any publication of the material will be delayed until an appeal takes place.
Ex-shadow home secretary David Davis - who first raised the case in the House of Commons - said it was "time for the government to accept the ruling of the court and stop trying to delay proceedings with further futile appeals". Mr Davis added: "The British public have a right to know the judges´ assessment of the extent of complicity of the UK and US Intelligence services in torture, and to determine for themselves why the government has tried for so long to cover up this assessment." (Damn right!).
What really annoys me is that if this was an article about Turkey, everyone would be screaming that the Turkish government is keeping secrets from the public and spreading propaganda - when it happens in the UK, people just seem to accept that it is in the "interests of national security". Bollocks...
WELCOME HOME SHARON,AND GOOD WILL TO HILDA KAWUKI, AFTER THEIR ORDEAL MAY THEY FIND HAPPINESS AT HOME WITH THEIR FAMILIES
Monday October 19 2009
The release from captivity of Irish aid worker, Sharon Commins, and her Ugandan colleague, Hilda Kawuki, was a heartwarming end to a harrowing event.
The joy of their families will be shared by the entire country when they are reunited today after an ordeal lasting 106 days.
A similar outcome is to be hoped for in the case of Fr Michael Sinnott, abducted in the Philippines eight days ago. The experience of Ms Commins and Ms Kawuki is neither the first nor the last time aid workers will find themselves placed in danger as they try to cater for the humanitarian needs of the people in the most troubled regions on the planet.
The work of Irish aid agencies in the war-ravaged Darfur region of Sudan continues a fine tradition of Irish people -- clerical and civilian -- helping those most in need.
No more so than Irish troops on United Nations duty who have served with honour abroad, and the generations of Irish aid workers and missionaries who have flown this country´s flag with distinction.
Irish history provides a context for understanding the trauma of famine and conflict. Moreover, though, the relaxed Irish demeanour means our countrymen and women are sought after as they have the capacity to work with all nationalities. A debt of gratitude is owed to those who have selflessly served in the third-world and developing countries. Ms Commins has done her duty and her bravery will hopefully inspire other young Irish men and women to do similar work, despite the obvious dangers.
Fr Sinnott´s safe return to the Columban house in Gatas District of Pagadian City in the Philippines will be equally dependent upon their delicate negotiating prowess. His age and medical condition makes the situation all the more pressing. Yesterday was Mission Sunday, the worldwide day of prayer for the missions when those serving in developing countries are remembered. Fr Sinnott, the 79-year-old priest originally from Clonard in Co Wexford, will have been in the thoughts of many.
Just HOW does a person do this?? This man inhaled a piece of a plastic spoon into his lungs without even realizing it! (Wouldn´t ya feel something like that?)... it´s worth a read!!
this soup made of goose blood was given in old times by smart Dąbrowskis girls to all unwanted woers,admirors,lovers...even placed in literature it was,Mickiewicz did a good job promoting this custom in Mister Thaddeus
on second thought,worth bringing it back as a rite of passage for all who are in favour of Dabrowski criticism and cannot live without any spitful remark about them.
Wanna try???On behalf of all Dabrowskis I can assure you we will learn how to cook it
Updated 7:03 a.m. CT,Tues., Oct . 27, 2009 <[script]>
PARIS - A Paris court on Tuesday convicted the Church of Scientology of fraud and fined it more than half a million euros — but stopped short of banning the group as requested by prosecutors.
The group´s French branch immediately announced it would appeal the verdict.
The court convicted the Church of Scientology´s French office, its library and six of its leaders of fraud. Investigators said the group pressured members into paying large sums of money for questionable financial gain and used "commercial harassment" against recruits.
Don´t be silly, it was amazing! The mother elephant displayed so much delicacy and knowledge in the way she used her hoof and trunk to revive the baby. Another thing I noticed is the fact that the baby was in the breech birth position. I wonder if that´s normal for elephant birth?
Don´t be silly, it was amazing! The mother elephant displayed so much delicacy and knowledge in the way she used her hoof and trunk to revive the baby. Another thing I noticed is the fact that the baby was in the breech birth position. I wonder if that´s normal for elephant birth?
well I closed it immediately after seeing the baby coming out with massive amount of bloody liquid. so no idea what you are talking about.
yes, I also don`t like the reality about what beautiful girls do in bathroom. makeup?
What may not seem beautiful to you now, were you not able to perform the functions yourself, would seem the most beautiful and precious thing in the world............
Fawcett Bess, 57, the owner of Bess Chicken and Pizza, across the street from the house, said that about two weeks ago, he found the man, Anthony Sowell, in the bushes alongside Mr. Sowell’s house naked and standing over a woman who was bloodied, beaten and also naked. Mr. Bess called 911, he said, and an ambulance soon took the woman away. But the police showed up two hours later and never interviewed him, he said.
“Nobody did anything because she is a girl walking around the streets,” Mr. Bess said. He said he did not know what had happened to the woman, or if the police had followed up on the matter.
Mr. Bess said that a month earlier, he had been approached by another woman who showed him bruises and blood on her neck that she claimed were from an attack by Mr. Sowell. The woman told Mr. Bess that the police had taken a report but appeared to do little investigating, he said.
“If people had come to tell us about this guy’s history, then maybe we would have paid more attention,” he said.
The claims were supported by police records that indicate Mr. Sowell was accused by one woman of choking and raping her in his house on Sept. 22. It was after this accusation that the police decided to conduct the search in which they found the decaying bodies. Police records indicate it took several weeks to assign an officer to the case and to obtain a search warrant.
Police records also show that on Dec. 8, 2008, another woman filed a report accusing Mr. Sowell of stopping her in front of his house and forcing her to the back door, where he punched, choked and tried to rape her."
“Nobody did anything because she is a girl walking around the streets,” Mr. Bess said. He said he did not know what had happened to the woman, or if the police had followed up on the matter.
Mr. Bess said that a month earlier, he had been approached by another woman who showed him bruises and blood on her neck that she claimed were from an attack by Mr. Sowell. The woman told Mr. Bess that the police had taken a report but appeared to do little investigating, he said.
“If people had come to tell us about this guy’s history, then maybe we would have paid more attention,” he said.
The claims were supported by police records that indicate Mr. Sowell was accused by one woman of choking and raping her in his house on Sept. 22. It was after this accusation that the police decided to conduct the search in which they found the decaying bodies. Police records indicate it took several weeks to assign an officer to the case and to obtain a search warrant.
Police records also show that on Dec. 8, 2008, another woman filed a report accusing Mr. Sowell of stopping her in front of his house and forcing her to the back door, where he punched, choked and tried to rape her."
This is so sickening that it´s hard to even think about it. And there you go -- sexism of the system, women-hating and sexual violence that goes unpunished forever -- at its best -- in this self proclaimed most civilized society! I am at a loss for words what it takes to become this sort of a monster..
This is so sickening that it´s hard to even think about it. And there you go -- sexism of the system, women-hating and sexual violence that goes unpunished forever -- at its best -- in this self proclaimed most civilized society! I am at a loss for words what it takes to become this sort of a monster..
True, but sticking your head in the sand and pretending won´t help.....The thing that shocks and sickens me the most, is the fact they had multiple warnings about him, but did nothing!!! What does it take to get attention when women are being abused?
True, but sticking your head in the sand and pretending won´t help.....The thing that shocks and sickens me the most, is the fact they had multiple warnings about him, but did nothing!!! What does it take to get attention when women are being abused?
Yes, absolutely, and the answer is that we live in a sexist society, where women´s lives are not equally important as men´s lives. Women are after all just sex objects, therefore, not equal humans.
Anthony Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender who lives in the home, was charged Tuesday with five counts of aggravated murder, as well as rape, felonious assault and kidnapping.
Cleveland police stopped searching for victims for the night and planned to continue on Wednesday. They have extended their efforts to boarded-up homes in the neighborhood where residents complained for years of a stench that one even said "smelled like a dead body."
Some in the community want an investigation into why it took so long to trace the grisly source.
"What happened from there, we don´t know," he said. "It was no secret that there was a foul odor. We don´t want to point fingers, but clearly something could have been done differently."
Reed said he and other community leaders want an investigation into whether police and health inspectors missed signs that could have tipped them off to the bodies.
Reed said he can´t imagine how police officers and sheriff´s deputies could have missed the smell. His office records show that he called the health department in 2007 after a resident told him about an odor that "smelled like a dead body," he said.
It is easy to look at this and think that this was just a very sick man and an exception.. However, the reality is that violence against women happens at alarming rates every minute and nothing is being done about it..
A jury decided the fate of a murderer in Texas by consulting the Bible. I thought a Jury was supposed to decided the verdict on the evidence..... so how does an athiest/muslim/ Hindu/Buddist/Pasterfarian etc fare ??
A jury decided the fate of a murderer in Texas by consulting the Bible. I thought a Jury was supposed to decided the verdict on the evidence..... so how does an athiest/muslim/ Hindu/Buddist/Pasterfarian etc fare ??
What a farce........
Did you call, send an email....?........it does help
"Thirty-two-year-old Khristian Oliver is set to be executed at 6pm Texas time (12 midnight GMT) in the Huntsville prison in Texas tomorrow. In Texas the Board of Pardons and Paroles has the power to recommend that the governor commute a death sentence, which it has not so far done. However, the state governor Rick Perry can still issue a stay of execution (and request that the paroles board reconsider its decision if it is a negative one), and Amnesty has issued an ´urgent action´ appeal (www.amnesty.org.uk/deathpenalty) and its supporters are calling on Governor Perry to intervene. "
It isn´t just women. In this particular case the victims were none white females.
The list could go on and on, John Wayne Gacy.....note all his victims were male, most only boys.
Actually, it´s amazing the amount of differences there are among serial killers.....
"Psychosis is rarely noted among serial killers. The predominant psychiatric diagnosis noted in the group tends toward the psychopathic, meaning they suffer from traits within a specific cluster of dysfunctional personality characteristics, those most commonly associated with Antisocial Personality Disorder or Dissocial personality disorder.[8][9] Psychopaths lack empathy and guilt, are egocentric and impulsive, and do not conform to social, moral and legal norms. Psychopaths often follow a distinct set of rules which they have created for themselves rather than following social norms set in place by society. They may appear to be quite normal and often even charming, a state of adaptation that psychiatrist Hervey Cleckley named the "mask of sanity"."
I think the reason "we" allow it to go on uncontested is because most of us are in various stages of a state of denial, as well as just plain not wanting to get involved. Nothing happens without action, and action requires time and energy. "We" are too busy to get involved.....
Quoting catwoman
It is easy to look at this and think that this was just a very sick man and an exception.. However, the reality is that violence against women happens at alarming rates every minute and nothing is being done about it..
It is easy to look at this and think that this was just a very sick man and an exception.. However, the reality is that violence against women happens at alarming rates every minute and nothing is being done about it..
If you have ever watched "Issues with Jane" on CNN or "Nancy Grace"...you will see that crime against women in this country is on arise. You can hear it on the news, radio etc...recently the 10 women they found near Cleveland. Apparently, it was man who was convicted of rape and just released from prison. They believe some of these bodies were in the house for years...so sad.
Can a women go star gazing alone? Can she walk her dog by herself at night? Many other things men can still feel comfortable doing, but us women on the other hand we don´t.
If you have ever watched "Issues with Jane" on CNN or "Nancy Grace"...you will see that crime against women in this country is on arise. You can hear it on the news, radio etc...recently the 10 women they found near Cleveland. Apparently, it was man who was convicted of rape and just released from prison. They believe some of these bodies were in the house for years...so sad.
Can a women go star gazing alone? Can she walk her dog by herself at night? Many other things men can still feel comfortable doing, but us women on the other hand we don´t.
Actually the man was released a few years ago. As I mentioned before, it´s not just women, it´s stronger over weaker. It most often is easy for a male to overtake a female, as most males have the strength to subdue most females. (of course there are some Amazons like Daydreamer who no man could subdue...but that is another matter) Females have to rely on their wit, rather than brawn. Rule number one is be aware of your surroundings and access your vulnerability.
I think we get hung up on what is right, and forget about the "real" world. It´s unfortunate, most get away with what they can, depending on what they want and the perception of what is possible.
Actually the man was released a few years ago. As I mentioned before, it´s not just women, it´s stronger over weaker. It most often is easy for a male to overtake a female, as most males have the strength to subdue most females. (of course there are some Amazons like Daydreamer who no man could subdue...but that is another matter) Females have to rely on their wit, rather than brawn. Rule number one is be aware of your surroundings and access your vulnerability.
I think we get hung up on what is right, and forget about the "real" world. It´s unfortunate, most get away with what they can, depending on what they want and the perception of what is possible.
They believe some of the bodies had been there for years, shortly after he was released from prison. Why in the world do we release these rapists? It has been proven they can´t be reformed...Same thing with sexual predators. All of these children who go missing and found dead are usually victims of men. And when you do hear it´s a women...for some reason it makes even more comprehensable..
I have had so many incidents where I have feared for my safety. Men falling me in cars to my front door, a man breaking into my house and me waking up with him sitting on my bed. I now keep a baseball bat in my car and a knife under my mattress. We should not have to live in fear!
OMG....teaschip! This is horrible....get yourself to a martial arts class ASAP! I would suggest something like Aikido, (which is what I´ve been involved in for years) Judo, Jujitsu are also good for women. They are defensive. You do go over what is called katas over and over again, but the most important thing they teach is a way to think. It is taught that the attack happens in the mind of the attacker first, before it´s manifested in the physical. You are supposed to feel the attack before it happens. Keeping a knife or baseball bat handy without training is not much use. The attacker could end up using them against you.
The best strategy is to keep out of reach......learn to duck.....be aware of your surroundings.
Quoting teaschip
They believe some of the bodies had been there for years, shortly after he was released from prison. Why in the world do we release these rapists? It has been proven they can´t be reformed...Same thing with sexual predators. All of these children who go missing and found dead are usually victims of men. And when you do hear it´s a women...for some reason it makes even more comprehensable..
I have had so many incidents where I have feared for my safety. Men falling me in cars to my front door, a man breaking into my house and me waking up with him sitting on my bed. I now keep a baseball bat in my car and a knife under my mattress. We should not have to live in fear!
Teas - that´s awful! A guy getting into your bedroom? What did you do? You´re lucky nothing happened...
Much as I like the idea of working out and learning new things at the same time, I don´t think anything can grant you safety. Sure, it´s better to increase your chances and here Aikido, Judo or Taekwondo are of great help, but still it´s a matter of luck. You either are in the wrong place at the wrong time or not.
A friend of mine, who had national successes in Judo, was attacked in a park as she was going back home from a training. Ok, so she did break one nose and a few ribs, but she´d stand no chance alone against 4 guys. Luckily, her coach saw the situation and helped her out. Otherwise it might have ended in a tragedy.
Alameda, thanks for having such high expectations of me but I don´t think I´d last long in a one-to-one confrontation, I´m more of a talker, my big gab has scared a few people away. Or maybe it was my being self-assured? The thing is, after being attacked once, I learnt that I stand no chance in physical fight so I decided to act as if I could protect myself. So far it´s been working, but you never know what awaits you round the corner
I think we get hung up on what is right, and forget about the "real" world. It´s unfortunate, most get away with what they can, depending on what they want and the perception of what is possible.
That is such an insulting way to think. Insulting for all the victims. What was "real" so many years ago is not necessarily "real" now, because something was done about it, and because there were people who fought for justice, even at the cost of their lives. There was a great article in the lastest Bitch magazine: "What if we did as much to prevent rape as we do to prevent H1N1?" Yeah, if we did care about the lives of women, there would be much less rape out there, much less porn, and less of sexy scenes in mainstream movies where women are violated.
The CDC reported just over 43,000 cases of H1N1 between April and July of this year and estimates that it will affect a million people, or 0.3% of the total population of the United States. Compare this to the 2.5% of women and 0.9% of men who reported being raped or sexually assaulted in the past year (most victims don´t report). The most recent statistics about rape available from the CDC are from last year. Swine flu? Last week.
Yes, one never knows until an actual "event" happens. I had a friend who was a black belt in Karate....who ended up being beaten up by her boyfriend. In my friends case, she had already surrendered to the man....The problem with things like Karate is if you use them, you can be charged with the use of a deadly weapon. I would have a hard time actually hitting anyone.......in a fight or flight situation....I opt for the latter.....
The object of an art like Aikido is to never have to use any of the actual physical technique, at least that is how I was taught. As I said, the main lesson is to feel an attack before it happens, and if you don´t do that, at least stay out of the way and out of reach. We practiced against 6 opponents at once. That is, we practiced being attacked by 6 different attackers at once.
Yes, a loud mouth helps a lot. There is nothing quite so unnerving as a loud and piercing scream.....and I too am curious....what did Teaschip do?
Quoting Daydreamer
...........Alameda, thanks for having such high expectations of me but I don´t think I´d last long in a one-to-one confrontation, I´m more of a talker, my big gab has scared a few people away. Or maybe it was my being self-assured? The thing is, after being attacked once, I learnt that I stand no chance in physical fight so I decided to act as if I could protect myself. So far it´s been working, but you never know what awaits you round the corner
Well you do what you want, as for me, I opt for what works....NOW...and of course a lot more work to prevent rape needs to be done....that is what I´m trying to do. Putting your head in the sand and pretending there are no sick perverts out there does not help. It should be unthinkable, but obviously, it is thinkable and being done....what is it they have found....somewhere in America a woman is being raped every two minutes"
I am opposed to the objectification of women as objects....things to be acted upon....but the reality is that attitude still exists and horrid actions still happen.............better safe than sorry.....once the line is crossed....one can´t get back.........and I certainly agree with you regarding care about women´s lives....but I think we should care for all lives........not just womens. A man who is able to perpetuate violence against women is sick too and needs help. He is like a carrier of a virus who spreads the disease..........if he were inoculated wouldn´t it be better?
Quoting catwoman
That is such an insulting way to think. Insulting for all the victims. What was "real" so many years ago is not necessarily "real" now, because something was done about it, and because there were people who fought for justice, even at the cost of their lives. There was a great article in the lastest Bitch magazine: "What if we did as much to prevent rape as we do to prevent H1N1?" Yeah, if we did care about the lives of women, there would be much less rape out there, much less porn, and less of sexy scenes in mainstream movies where women are violated.
Thessaloniki, Greece - An anarchist group has claimed responsibility for two small bomb attacks on sex shops over the past week in Greece´s northern port city of Thessaloniki that caused no injuries.
A group of self-identified anarchists said the blasts were aimed at drawing attention to the sex industry´s role in capitalist power structures. It posted the claim online on Thursday.
Greek anarchists frequently target symbols of wealth and state power in overnight arson attacks, but this is the first known case of an attack on sex shops.
Thessaloniki, Greece - An anarchist group has claimed responsibility for two small bomb attacks on sex shops over the past week in Greece´s northern port city of Thessaloniki that caused no injuries.
A group of self-identified anarchists said the blasts were aimed at drawing attention to the sex industry´s role in capitalist power structures. It posted the claim online on Thursday.
Greek anarchists frequently target symbols of wealth and state power in overnight arson attacks, but this is the first known case of an attack on sex shops.
Thessaloniki, Greece - An anarchist group has claimed responsibility for two small bomb attacks on sex shops over the past week in Greece´s northern port city of Thessaloniki that caused no injuries.
A group of self-identified anarchists said the blasts were aimed at drawing attention to the sex industry´s role in capitalist power structures. It posted the claim online on Thursday.
Greek anarchists frequently target symbols of wealth and state power in overnight arson attacks, but this is the first known case of an attack on sex shops.
Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing dozens of people in order to sell their fat and tissue for cosmetic uses in Europe.
The gang allegedly targeted people on remote roads, luring them with fake job offers before extracting their fat to sell it for $15,000 (£9,000 ) a litre.
Other suspected gang members, including two Italian nationals, remain at large.
Police said the gang could be behind the disappearances of up to 60 people in the region.
At a news conference in the capital, police showed reporters two bottles containing human body fat and images of one of the alleged victims.
One of the alleged killings is reported to have taken place in mid-September, with the person´s body tissue removed for sale.
Cmdr Angel Toledo told Reuters some of the suspects had "declared and stated how they murdered people with the aim being to extract their fat in rudimentary labs and sell it".
Police said they suspect the fat was sold to cosmetics and pharmaceutical companies in Europe, but have not confirmed any such connection.
hahah, well... nobody was hurt!!! that is why this was morally justified in my opinion.
Unless it was meant to be funny, it´s a dangerous way of thinking. I don´t think blowing private property is a solution to any problem. What if somebody finds it morally justified to blow up your house while you´re out only because he or she finds it offensive that you criticise Islam?
No, violence, bombs and vandalism are not justified means of persuasion.
I´m afraid the commerce in human body parts has gotten out of control. Best to know your manufacturers...I always check skin deep for products before purchase.
This is something I would not have thought of before, but recently when I had root canals and crowns made, I questioned my dentist on just what was being done and with what. FYI....The human bone is used in dental implants.
There was a recent CSI show that featured a gang that kidnapped young women to be used in prostitution. If the young lady was too much trouble, her organs were harvested.
Something like this certainly cause one to think, doesn´t it?..........what have we become?
Quoting TheAenigma
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This is something I would not have thought of before, but recently when I had root canals and crowns made, I questioned my dentist on just what was being done and with what. FYI....The human bone is used in dental implants.
My uncle makes dental implants and I never heard him talk about using bones... is this a thing that differs per country, or some kind of special implant?
My uncle makes dental implants and I never heard him talk about using bones... is this a thing that differs per country, or some kind of special implant?
Barba-Mama....I doubt if talking about the gory and lurid details of doing dental implants is exactly the type of conversation most uncles would have with their nieces....Here, more than you probably ever wanted to know....Understanding Dental Implants
from my previous post, bone harvesting is not always done in an ethical manner.
Unless it was meant to be funny, it´s a dangerous way of thinking. I don´t think blowing private property is a solution to any problem. What if somebody finds it morally justified to blow up your house while you´re out only because he or she finds it offensive that you criticise Islam?
No, violence, bombs and vandalism are not justified means of persuasion.
You are right, although I disagree that these two situations are equivalent. Commercial property and home property are different, I would not support this if the incident was that someone destroyed a porn shop owner´s home.
You are also right that this is not a good form of persuasion, in fact this is not persuasion whatsoever, and it really is not changing the global situation. I just think that destroying places related to sex industry is a morally good thing. Women´s sexuality should never be available for purchase in a civil, just society.
......I just think that destroying places related to sex industry is a morally good thing. Women´s sexuality should never be available for purchase in a civil, just society.
I agree with Daydreamer...."No, violence, bombs and vandalism are not justified means of persuasion."............in either commercial or private property. I would add they are also not an effective method of persuasion. ...........as for sexuality....of course nobody, male or female should be forced or coerced into the sale of their sexuality.
I would also add that the means to sustain oneself in a dignified and honorable manner should be available to all.
I just think that destroying places related to sex industry is a morally good thing. Women´s sexuality should never be available for purchase in a civil, just society.
Morality is relative, what we can base on is the law. Would planting a bomb under abortion clinic or a fur shop be morally justified too? Or destroying a coffee shop in The Netherlands? Of course law is not perfect but it must be a point of reference. If you don´t like the law then do something to change it without breaking it. We live in democratic societies, it´s not saudi
And it´s not only the female sexuality that´s available to purchase, there usually are a few men in porn films. Not to mention gay porn I don´t think government should ban legal pornography but, rather, they should do their best to stop the hideous human trafficking and forcing people into prostitution
Morality is relative, what we can base on is the law. Would planting a bomb under abortion clinic or a fur shop be morally justified too? Or destroying a coffee shop in The Netherlands? Of course law is not perfect but it must be a point of reference. If you don´t like the law then do something to change it without breaking it. We live in democratic societies, it´s not saudi
And it´s not only the female sexuality that´s available to purchase, there usually are a few men in porn films. Not to mention gay porn I don´t think government should ban legal pornography but, rather, they should do their best to stop the hideous human trafficking and forcing people into prostitution
Morality is supposed to be based on human suffering, I´d challenge the religious fanatics to check the facts on who is suffering when abortion is banned. Same when it comes to the sex industry, and to remind you -- it´s not the men in it or outside of it.
Yeah, we have to base our system of punishment on the law, and I didn´t say that the people who set those bombs should not be punished. However, ideally, all those hideous shops should be destroyed.
Lots of people wearing ridiculous outfits and doing crazy things in the aid of Children in Need............ including me who went to work dressed as a "rock chick" but narrowly escaped the freezing cold jelly bath
Lots of people wearing ridiculous outfits and doing crazy things in the aid of Children in Need............ including me who went to work dressed as a "rock chick" but narrowly escaped the freezing cold jelly bath
University students who were going to Rize from Erzurum/İspir, were stucked on the Ovit pass because of avalanche. The midibus is under snow for hours and the ones who went to save them got lost too. May God help them...
University students who were going to Rize from Erzurum/İspir, were stucked on the Ovit pass because of avalanche. The midibus is under snow for hours and the ones who went to save them got lost too. May God help them...
University students who were going to Rize from Erzurum/İspir, were stucked on the Ovit pass because of avalanche. The midibus is under snow for hours and the ones who went to save them got lost too. May God help them...
More of ´what caught my nose today´. I was just wondering how it was possible that the peel of the mandarine I just ate was smelling so profoundly and nice. I realized that, being uncareful, I put half of it over the ash tray and it started burning. Does smell n ice though
This is probably one of the most horrific medical stories I have ever heard of. This man has been laying down in a hospital bed, presumed to be in a coma, for 23 years - completely unable to communicate that he was conscienous. A living hell....
A Belgian man who doctors thought was in a coma for 23 years was conscious all along, it has been revealed.
Medical staff believed Rom Houben had sunk irretrievably into a coma after he was injured in a car crash in 1983.
The University of Liege doctor who discovered in 2006 that, although Mr Houben was paralysed, his brain was working, said the case was not unique.
Mr Houben said that at first he felt angry at his powerlessness, but eventually learned to live with it.
"Other people had an opinion of me," Mr Houben, now 46, told the BBC.
"I knew what I could do and what I was capable of but other people had a rather pathetic image of me. I had to learn to be patient and now finally we are on an equal footing."
´He´s an optimist´
It was only in 2006 that a scan revealed Mr Houben´s brain was in fact almost entirely functioning.
He now communicates by using a special keyboard attached to his wheelchair.
His mother, Fina Houben, told the BBC that she always believed her son could communicate.
"He is not depressed he is an optimist," she said. "He wants to get out of life what he can."
The BBC´s Dominic Hughes, in Belgium, says the case raises the issue of how many other people believed to be in comas are actually trapped inside their bodies, desperate to communicate.
This is probably one of the most horrific medical stories I have ever heard of. This man has been laying down in a hospital bed, presumed to be in a coma, for 23 years - completely unable to communicate that he was conscienous. A living hell....
A Belgian man who doctors thought was in a coma for 23 years was conscious all along, it has been revealed.
Medical staff believed Rom Houben had sunk irretrievably into a coma after he was injured in a car crash in 1983.
The University of Liege doctor who discovered in 2006 that, although Mr Houben was paralysed, his brain was working, said the case was not unique.
Mr Houben said that at first he felt angry at his powerlessness, but eventually learned to live with it.
"Other people had an opinion of me," Mr Houben, now 46, told the BBC.
"I knew what I could do and what I was capable of but other people had a rather pathetic image of me. I had to learn to be patient and now finally we are on an equal footing."
´He´s an optimist´
It was only in 2006 that a scan revealed Mr Houben´s brain was in fact almost entirely functioning.
He now communicates by using a special keyboard attached to his wheelchair.
His mother, Fina Houben, told the BBC that she always believed her son could communicate.
"He is not depressed he is an optimist," she said. "He wants to get out of life what he can."
The BBC´s Dominic Hughes, in Belgium, says the case raises the issue of how many other people believed to be in comas are actually trapped inside their bodies, desperate to communicate.
Actually this news story gives a lot of food for thought. I have NEVER carried an organ donation card as I am aware that you are not always "dead" when they remove organs. Brain death has been a legal form of "death" and organs are removed from a patient such as the one above for transplantation. It is lucky for the Belgian man that his mother did not give permission for the venilator to be switched off.
The following article shows why I never carry an Organ Donation card:-
"Some form of anesthesia is needed to prevent the donor from moving during removal of the organs. The donor’s blood pressure may rise during surgical removal. Similar changes take place during ordinary surgical procedures only if the depth of anesthesia is inadequate. Body movement and a rise in blood pressure are due to the skin incision and surgical procedure if the donor is not anesthetized. Is it not reasonable to consider that the donor may feel pain? In some cases, drugs to paralyze muscle contraction are given to prevent the donor from moving during removal of the organs. Yet, sometimes no anesthesia is administered to the donor. Movement by the donor is distressing to doctors and nurses. Perhaps this is another reason why anesthesia and drugs to paralyze the muscles are usually given."
It is one thing f the material is "harvested" in an ethical manner, which does not always happen....I know it seems very nice and generous to donate one´s body parts....but I am against it.
One big reason is because it commoditizes the human body. It´s enough to have to worry about being mugged for one´s wallet, but when your tendons, skin, sinews, bones and more.become elegible ...for sale, it changes things somewhat...it opens a door that I don´t think should be opened.
Quoting TheAenigma
.......................... Actually this news story gives a lot of food for thought. I have NEVER carried an organ donation card as I am aware that you are not always "dead" when they remove organs. Brain death has been a legal form of "death" and organs are removed from a patient such as the one above for transplantation. ...........
Actually this news story gives a lot of food for thought. I have NEVER carried an organ donation card as I am aware that you are not always "dead" when they remove organs. Brain death has been a legal form of "death" and organs are removed from a patient such as the one above for transplantation.
I am more than willing to be an organ donor and carry the card. I would rather someone with a chance at a "real" life move on with theirs, than me live in a vegetative state year after year.........
I am more than willing to be an organ donor and carry the card. I would rather someone with a chance at a "real" life move on with theirs, than me live in a vegetative state year after year.........
I agree. And I always wonder, for the people out there who don´t carry a card... Let´s say something happens to you and you need a new liver to live. The doctor says, lucky you! We have a match! If we don´t transplant this liver into your body, you will die in two days, but now you can live! Are you going to say, oh no, don´t give me that liver. I don´t know if it was taken from a man in a coma? Would you choose death?
Are you going to say, oh no, don´t give me that liver. I don´t know if it was taken from a man in a coma? Would you choose death?
I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".
I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".
In that case... no liver for you! Can you really be sure, at any time, if somebody shows no reaction to pain stimuli, has no way to interact, and has wide, non-responsive pupils? People who are declared brain-dead could all be locked in like that Belgian man.
I would say "I don´t want that liver if it was taken from a man who may have been conscious but was unable to tell anyone, and who may not have been given anaesthetic, so spent his last few moments of his life in torturous pain and effectively was killed so that I could live".
+++ good for you.......I think this is called "walking the walk".
And I wouldn´t mind having my organs taken if I were in coma for a long time. Pain? So what? I´d rather die than be in a vegetative state. And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.
And I wouldn´t mind having my organs taken if I were in coma for a long time. Pain? So what? I´d rather die than be in a vegetative state. And I definitely would not turn down an organ that could save my son´s life. I´d get one for him even if I had to kill somebody for it. Sorry.
Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children. However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........and don´t forget they may only be paralyzed....not in a vegetative state....they may be fully conscious, but unable to communicate............and they may very well feel.
Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children. However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........
I hope she was drunk when she said that!! Otherwise, obviously no sort of motherly obsession justifies that..
I am more than willing to be an organ donor and carry the card. I would rather someone with a chance at a "real" life move on with theirs, than me live in a vegetative state year after year.........
Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor. When I´m dead or in a vegetative coma it´s the only thing I can help others with. Must say I wonder if those who say ´I don´t want it´ really keep saying that when the decision is there. I hope for all of them that time never comes but I doubt they refuse.
Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor. When I´m dead or in a vegetative coma it´s the only thing I can help others with. Must say I wonder if those who say ´I don´t want it´ really keep saying that when the decision is there. I hope for all of them that time never comes but I doubt they refuse.
I think you missed the point. My family are all aware that when I die they can do what the hell they like with my body - donate whatever organs can help save somebody. However, if I am in "a coma" they may not donate organs unless they can definiately say I am brain dead. The point I am making making is mistakes are made in diagnosis of brain death. People have been operated on to remove organs while conscieous of what is going on and then die. Also, who is to say that someone who is paralised, but able to communicate by computer, should not be allowed to live their life and instead be an organ doner to someone more "worthy"? This is the point I am making, which clearly you missed.
In addition, there is a sinister side to Doner Cards which is taboo and never discussed openly....
Yes, mothers are famous for what they would do for their children. However, the one whose organs you are thinking about taking are the child of someone, and they may be the parent of someone else...........
I hope she was drunk when she said that!! Otherwise, obviously no sort of motherly obsession justifies that..
I was not drunk. I really believe in what I´m saying. A pararel situation would be if I was to decide whether my child dies or somebody else´s. There´s no way I would chose another person´s child over mine. It´s similar with organ transplants.
I was not drunk. I really believe in what I´m saying. A pararel situation would be if I was to decide whether my child dies or somebody else´s. There´s no way I would chose another person´s child over mine. It´s similar with organ transplants.
Sure, but specifically killing someone for your child is way beyond limits. And if your child grew up to be a decent human being, I don´t think he´d respect you for it. He might even hate the rest of his life, knowing that someone was deprived of it because of him.
Also, who is to say that someone who is paralised, but able to communicate by computer, should not be allowed to live their life and instead be an organ doner to someone more "worthy"?
Me too. Organ donor, bone marrow donor and in the past blood donor.
I also give blood and am on the Anthony Nolan Bone Marrow register to donate bone marrow if required.
This is completely BESIDE THE POINT, which is NOT about the ethics of donating body tissue or organs, but is about the dangers of carrying a Doner Card - but I guess you just don´t understand it...
An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...
An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...
What is the problem with people? So what if she even is an atheist, then she´s less worthy of a person and deserves to be executed?
An Iranian woman Nigar Azizmahmudi, one of the raelian cult member got arrested in Turkey because of passport problems, if she is given back to Iran, possibly she will be executed. The interesting thing is Turkish media is presenting her as an atheist but it is clear she seems not...
I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?
I haven´t seen any reference to this in the news anyplace........but under the circumstances......wouldn´t she qualify as a political refugee and be given sanctuary?
Her name is Nigar Azizmuradi, my mistake sorry ...I hope she would be given sanctuary, it is very cruel to punish anyone because of his/her beliefs. I wondered why they insistently announce her as an atheist since she is a member of a cult. Already realized a Turkish newspaper started a campaign in order not to send her back to Iran, below is the link;
Sure, but specifically killing someone for your child is way beyond limits. And if your child grew up to be a decent human being, I don´t think he´d respect you for it. He might even hate the rest of his life, knowing that someone was deprived of it because of him.
Offf ya, it´s not like I´m planning to walk the streets wanting to kill other people´s children. I was talking about accepting other people´s organs. I don´t really think if I killed somebody, any hospital would accept his/her organs for transplantation, would it? And, multi talented as I am, performing organ transplant is not what I would be able to do on my own I was referring to the situation where I may or may not accept an organ for my child knowing that the donor is brain dead. I sure hope I will never have to make such decision.
As for AE´s question who can decide whether or not a paralysed person can live, I say it is the person himself or herself. I am fond of euthanasia.
.............I was talking about accepting other people´s organs...........
..........As for AE´s question who can decide whether or not a paralysed person can live, I say it is the person himself or herself. I am fond of euthanasia.........
One thing that is often missed is the fact that organ recipients need some pretty nasty drugs to prevent their body rejecting the transplant. I think we imagine a transplant....then all is well and the transplantee goes on and lives a normal life....not so....
The problem is when people get to the state of being paralyzed...they can´t express their wishes very well.................so it is often others who make the decision for them.
I thought most people knew about the drugs you have to take, to prevent organ-rejection...
Anyway, I think this whole thread is starting to look like an anti-organ transplant thread. Let me make this clear... if something would happen to one of my organs right now, I would gladly take a load of drugs to continue my life. Sure, I would have to adjust some things, but if I can still smile, move around, laugh at jokes, have a job and things like that, I would be a very happy camper. Second, I have an organ-doner card at me at all times. My family knows that if I ever reach a vegitative state, they should pull the plug. They know this even though I´m in my mid twenties. I have seen people in need of donor skin after a massive burn... I have seen somebody in need of donor eye-lenses, basically being blind without them. And a walk around the children´s ward in a hospital almost makes me want to give a kid my lung right there and then.
It´s a story with two sides, but also take into account the odds of stuff like "being trapped into a body." I don´t want to force anybody to be a donor. My brother isn´t, for example. But make an informed decision, and not a decision based on unfounded fears.
Alameda, I don´t think anyone here thinks organ transplant is a petty thing. So we all know that you need drugs to make it work, and even then, there are no guarantees. If you´d rather die than have somebody´s liver or heart, fine. It´s your choice. And I´m sure that a person who gets the liver you wouldn´t take, will be glad to be next on the list. I sure would
Informed decision is the key, hence the donor cards or the ones whose name I have forgotten that say "do not resuscitate". Also, your family should know whether you´d rather live as long as possible even if it means having your bodily functions artificially supported, or would rather prefer to be not supported mechanically.
The bottom line is, it should be a matter of preferrence, not general rule or law.
Just been reading the interesting debate and views about donating organs etc above. I am on the organ donor register, regularly give blood and when I asked about being a bone marrow donor I was told I was too old (There was a upper age limit apparently).
Quite frankly if I was in a state where I was vegitative with no brain stem cell activity then I would be more than happy for anything of any use to go to someone who needs it, so long as it was not a murderer!
I think the guy thought to be in the "living coma" in Belgium was an unusual case, and how sad for him that he was like that for all those years. How an earth he coped with it is beyond me.
Her name is Nigar Azizmuradi, my mistake sorry ...I hope she would be given sanctuary, it is very cruel to punish anyone because of his/her beliefs. I wondered why they insistently announce her as an atheist since she is a member of a cult. Already realized a Turkish newspaper started a campaign in order not to send her back to Iran, below is the link;
Alameda, I don´t think anyone here thinks organ transplant is a petty thing. So we all know that you need drugs to make it work, and even then, there are no guarantees. If you´d rather die than have somebody´s liver or heart, fine. It´s your choice. And I´m sure that a person who gets the liver you wouldn´t take, will be glad to be next on the list. I sure would
Informed decision is the key, hence the donor cards or the ones whose name I have forgotten that say "do not resuscitate". Also, your family should know whether you´d rather live as long as possible even if it means having your bodily functions artificially supported, or would rather prefer to be not supported mechanically.
The bottom line is, it should be a matter of preferrence, not general rule or law.
Daydreamer.....actually I agree 100% with you.....regarding the matter of consent....and that is the issue. If someone willingly, and with knowledge donates their organs and tissue, G-d bless them. The probem is too many times this is not the case.
How about the people who were coerced out of their organs, or who´s organs were stolen from them? We know for a fact of the case of Alistair Cooke (I was a fan and listened to his broadcasts every morning), whose tissue was stolen with out permission. His tissue, being from a cancer victim ,and from a 96 year old was not even legally permissable, but still it was done. It only was an accident that revealed the case......and a whole network of criminals who "harvested", sold and traded in the "tissue".
When so much is at stake, there are those who will do highly unethical and illegal things to profit. There has to be a method to clearly limit illegal and unethical "harvesting". It´s downright goulish and gruesome.
When so much is at stake, there are those who will do highly unethical and illegal things to profit. There has to be a method to clearly limit illegal and unethical "harvesting". It´s downright goulish and gruesome.
I couldn´t understand the article.. but did she apply for asylum?
Yes, she did, she applied to UN refugee agency, she is now waiting for the decision of Turkish authorities. Turkey has two choices, either she will be deported to another country or will be sent back to Iran...
This story of child abuse within the catholic church in Ireland (ignored, covered up and dismissed for decades by the Vatican) confirms the hypocrisy in the catholic church…and in so many religions.
Just some of the news stories over the past few weeks…
“Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen has said the cover-up by the Catholic hierarchy in Dublin of child abuse by priests was shocking and disturbing. A report revealed decades of abuse was concealed by the church in Dublin in an attempt to save its reputation.
It said some senior police officers colluded in the cover-up.
Mr Cowen said it was a crushing verdict that the good name and standing of the Church as an institution was placed above the basic safety of children. “
“In all, 450 other people in the Dublin diocese claim they were abused as children. One hundred and fifty two priests stand accused.
A fraction have been prosecuted. The latest report is as shocking as the Ryan Report published earlier this year - not just because of the abuse itself, but because it exposes how that abuse was covered up. It examined how allegations of child abuse in the Archdiocese of Dublin against a sample of 46 priests were handled by bishops, including a former cardinal, and state authorities between 1 January 1975 and 30 April 2004. “
“The inquiry into sex abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland has disclosed that the Vatican ignored formal requests for information.
The inquiry asked for details of reports on abuse sent to the Vatican by the Dublin archdiocese in 2006. The Vatican did not reply but told the Irish Foreign Affairs department the request "had not gone through appropriate diplomatic channels.
The inquiry condemned church leaders for covering-up abuse for decades.”
It´s horrid to read about the scale of child abuse by CC in Ireland. The matter has been given a lot of press here. Too bad it´s that late. It only shows how dangerous it is to give unchallenged trust to any kind of organisation just because most people in the country share the beliefs they advocate. I am disgusted reading about that and hope the priests will serve their time
It´s horrid to read about the scale of child abuse by CC in Ireland. The matter has been given a lot of press here. Too bad it´s that late. It only shows how dangerous it is to give unchallenged trust to any kind of organisation just because most people in the country share the beliefs they advocate. I am disgusted reading about that and hope the priests will serve their time
It IS absolutely disgusting, I agree. Also, remember we are not talking about a small faction of the Catholic Church - this behaviour seems to have been condoned by the Vatican itself for decades. Those children who complained in the past were made to feel like liars and frauds by the highest people within the catholic church and the police.
I thought this type of upper echelon "paedophile network", common for hundreds of years, had died out. Let´s hope these sanctimonious, lying, deceitful paedophiles are made an example of, and the Vatican too! It absolutely makes my blood boil!
The details in full - over 46 ... FORTY SIX!!! priests of the catholic church in Ireland are involved. I can´t help thinking that if this story had been about muslims, this forum would be swamped with threads and posts about it!
I don´t think there is an institution (as it cannot be thought of otherwise) more corrupt than the Catholic Church and I´m not talking only about repulsive acts like child abuse but all kinds of money embezzlement or getting away with any kind of sin you can think of just because Catholic countries treat them as holy cows. In Poland the situation is only starting to change now, before, being a priest meant you could do whatever you wanted to and people would not stand against you because of your position. It´s sick.
I don´t think there is an institution (as it cannot be thought of otherwise) more corrupt than the Catholic Church and I´m not talking only about repulsive acts like child abuse but all kinds of money embezzlement or getting away with any kind of sin you can think of just because Catholic countries treat them as holy cows. In Poland the situation is only starting to change now, before, being a priest meant you could do whatever you wanted to and people would not stand against you because of your position. It´s sick.
Yep - completely agree. I have also wondered something else about the Catholic Church too....where in the bible does it say you need a "pope", a "vatican" and a huge amount of wealth that is never shared with the poor?
Researchers in the Netherlands created what was described as soggy pork and are now investigating ways to improve the muscle tissue in the hope that people will one day want to eat it.
No one has yet tasted their produce, but it is believed the artificial meat could be on sale within five years.
Vegetarian groups welcomed the news, saying there was “no ethical objection” if meat was not a piece of a dead animal.
Mark Post, professor of physiology at Eindhoven University, told The Sunday Times: “What we have at the moment is rather like wasted muscle tissue. We need to find ways of improving it by training it and stretching it, but we will get there.
................ummm...........yum....................ugh....I think I´d just rather have beans than this modern innovation...........guess I´m just old fashioned....
I think it would be awesome if they can do this in a moderately inexpensive way, I am already a big fan
Hmmm.....I guess there are benefits, but all in all it does not appeal to me.....It doesn´t seem natural and things that aren´t natural often have hidden drawbacks that are only discovered later.
A Manhattan librarian emerged as a champion couch potato after three rivals gave in to sleep deprivation or nature’s call. Stan Friedman won the ESPN Zone Ultimate Couch Potato Competition, which began Tuesday morning at the ESPN Zone restaurant in Times Square. The event ended Wednesday afternoon after more than 29 grueling hours of continuous sports viewing -- mainly college football bowl games and endless highlights loops. The four participants, sitting in recliners in front of a dozen 42-inch high-definition plasma televisions and a couple of 14-foot HD projection TVs, could order unlimited food and drinks, but they weren’t allowed to go to sleep or leave their recliners except for restroom breaks once every eight hours. Friedman, a research librarian whose favorite sport is baseball, was declared the victor when runner-up Nate Lopez ran to the bathroom before the allotted break time. He won a $5,000 prize package including a huge TV, a cozy recliner and a trophy with a potato on it “I have a 350-square-foot apartment, so I don’t know what I’ll do with the TV,” he said Thursday. “But I’ll make room for the recliner.”
Cancel your flight to Amsterdam – the U.S. just got its first marijuana cafe on Friday. Located in Portland, Ore., the Cannabis Cafe shows how attitudes have changed since the Obama administration moved into the White House. A month ago, President Barack Obama told federal attorneys to ease off medical marijuana prosecutions.
Haha! I just realised this follows birdy´s post - no intentional link!! (  
LIR for spreading this news about my distant family I am immediately going to inform Animal protection agency as privacy abuse!!!!My cousin´s indecent photos!!!!P**n like in a public forum!!!!We are going to sue you for naked dances fancy!!!!!
Damn!!!you revealed the most hidded secret in all bird´s family!!!
Ps.
Cousin went featherless after finding out what happened to British orphanage kids sent to Australia after war!!!!
Edited (12/12/2009) by ptaszek
[native mistakes making ability of birdy)]
ahh femme!!!!it was not Kazakh´s dance)come down from the cloud nine
Edited (12/12/2009) by ptaszek
[corrected from Kazah to Kazakh..just to avoid being blamed by femme that I lost my native abilities to write Boratstan in English!!!!]
A little article in our local paper today reminded me that it is one year since the horrific attack on Gaza by Israel.
It also reminded me of Canli getting very emotional and talking of "our people being killed" and how she couldn´t bear to stand and watch it happen.
I wonder how Egypt has helped Palastinians in Gaza since? It may be a minute contribution, but other do care and do try to help (despite Egypt´s attempts to block aid).
A little article in our local paper today reminded me that it is one year since the horrific attack on Gaza by Israel.
It also reminded me of Canli getting very emotional and talking of "our people being killed" and how she couldn´t bear to stand and watch it happen.
I wonder how Egypt has helped Palastinians in Gaza since? It may be a minute contribution, but other do care and do try to help (despite Egypt´s attempts to block aid).
The new Turkish diplomacy, driven by Ahmet Davutoglu, active to the Middle East as well as in the Balkans, often is qualified of "neo ottoman". "Turkey reintegrates spaces where she was present during centuries", underlined recently Suat Kiniklioglu, spokesperson of the committee of the foreign affairs to the Parliament
Lebanon, Turkey lift visa requirements as part of cooperation deals
Monday, January 11, 2010
"Turkey and Lebanon signed agreements lifting visa requirements for travel during the Lebanese prime minister’s visit to Ankara on Monday
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Hariri traveled to Turkey to oversee the signing of a series of cooperation agreements. The six accords signed on Monday included defense, health, agriculture, transportation, education and lifting the visa requirement
France opposed to new Renault Clio production in Turkey
PARIS (Dow Jones)--French Industry Minister Christian Estrosi said Tuesday the government won´t let Renault SA (RNO.FR), the country´s second-largest car manufacturer, shift production of its Clio city car to Turkey.
"The government, which owns a 15% stake in Renault, has a word to say" on this issue, Estrosi told parliament. "When a car is destined to be sold in France it also needs to be made in France," he added.
Estrosi will meet with Renault´s chief operating officer Wednesday.
China’s bride shortage will be widely apparent in the year 2020. This is when approximately 24 million Chinese males will discover that they are without an available Chinese female to marry. The skewed birth rate has favored males over females for nearly 3 decades, stemming mainly from China’s adoption of the 1 child only policy that was designed to help hold the country’s burgeoning population in check.
For years Chinese women who were pregnant for the first time would have the option of aborting a female fetus prior to full term. Some Chinese mothers would have several abortions of females before they finally gave birth to their “1 child” who happened to be a boy. Others were forced to abort children because they had already reached their 1 child limit and there were reports that in some remote villages infant girls were even abandoned and left to perish. The results of these “specific gender” abortions are being blamed largely on the government. Still it was the decision of many first time parents to abort female babies so that they would have another chance to try for a son.
The options for the new generation of “bride-less” Chinese men are fairly limiting. If there are no available women in their age group to marry then the men will be forced to choose women who are far older than they are and some may attempt to marry young girls who are far younger
...................The options for the new generation of “bride-less” Chinese men are fairly limiting. If there are no available women in their age group to marry then the men will be forced to choose women who are far older than they are and some may attempt to marry young girls who are far younger............
This can and probably will get very ugly. Nothing like a few million males with no female companionship around.
Makes the old saying...."think ahead".... more pertinent, don´t you think?
A while ago I saw a really interesting documentary about the bridal situation in China. I suppose you cannot try to correct nature even if you´re a communistic government...
I can´t imagine being disappointed about a daughter. It is such a twisted way of thinking....so twisted that a mother would abort (this would have to be around the 20 week mark where sex can be determined) or abandon another human being. As a mother, I can´t think of anything more monsterous. The Chinese government is allowing/condoning a genocide on the female sex.
I have two female Chinese friends, who I´ve met through my university study. It is very interesting to talk to them, and to get used to the Chinese situation. At my study there were a lot of Chinese people, and usually one of the first question you ask somebody when you are getting to know them is about family. I really had to get it out of my head to ask the question "do you have any brothers or sisters?" A big issue for one of my friends today is her last name. Since she is an only child, but also female, the entire family name is on her shoulders. And she doesn´t have a very common Chinese name, so she is thinking about giving her child her own last name instead of her husbands name.
I have two female Chinese friends, who I´ve met through my university study. It is very interesting to talk to them, and to get used to the Chinese situation. At my study there were a lot of Chinese people, and usually one of the first question you ask somebody when you are getting to know them is about family. I really had to get it out of my head to ask the question "do you have any brothers or sisters?" A big issue for one of my friends today is her last name. Since she is an only child, but also female, the entire family name is on her shoulders. And she doesn´t have a very common Chinese name, so she is thinking about giving her child her own last name instead of her husbands name.
That would mean that the ENTIRE reason for her husbands existance (to carry on HIS families last name) would be pointless (according to the Chinese way of thinking)! I wonder if she will ever find a man willing to do this for her.
My son lives in China and is engaged to a Chinese girl. I wonder how Chinese men feel about a foreigner ´taking´ one of their few available women .
There are actually 3 children in her family, 2 girls and one boy - but apparently her parents had/have to pay a ´fine´ (in the form of extra taxes) for the privilege of having more than one child.
That would mean that the ENTIRE reason for her husbands existance (to carry on HIS families last name) would be pointless (according to the Chinese way of thinking)! I wonder if she will ever find a man willing to do this for her.
Her husband is Dutch, he doesn´t give a hoot about his family´s name A name is nothing but a bunch of letters, that make a phonecall a lot longer. "Can you spell that please, sir?"
I don´t care whose name is kept. A few friends of mine decided to combine their surnames with their husbands and their husbands did the same, so they´re now called, say, Broun-Smythe. Now, if their child marries another double-barrelled person, say, Winston-Churchil, are they going to change their surnames into Broun-Smythe-Winston-Churchil? And what about the next generations?
You know, I think the best idea is to pick a new surname for both people who get married Preferably ones that include the date of the marriage so that men don´t forget it!
I don´t care whose name is kept. A few friends of mine decided to combine their surnames with their husbands and their husbands did the same, so they´re now called, say, Broun-Smythe. Now, if their child marries another double-barrelled person, say, Winston-Churchil, are they going to change their surnames into Broun-Smythe-Winston-Churchil? And what about the next generations?
You know, I think the best idea is to pick a new surname for both people who get married Preferably ones that include the date of the marriage so that men don´t forget it!
then you will not be able to track down your ancestors.
carrying mothers surname is simple and ideal. i mean you can have any father, but only one woman gives you a birth. and its only mothers who really take care of children.
everything comes from mother: genetic material, developing material, love, care, support.
nie mam humoru na przekomarzanie sie. i ta moja idea jest super fajoska. nawet mi nie probuj powiedziec cos przeciwko. bo cie przeklne na amen!
THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want; He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters; He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for His name´s sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
Bless you ,and it is the main difference between us
jakos strasznie zawyzone mniemanie masz na swoj temat.
Quoting ptaszek
THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want; He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters; He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for His name´s sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
Bless you ,and it is the main difference between us
A sheep gave birth to a dead lamb with a human-like face. The calf was born in a village not far from the city of Izmir, Turkey.
Erhan Elibol, a vet, performed Cesarean section on the animal to take the lamb out, but was horrified to see that the features of the lamb´s snout bore a striking resemblance to a human face.
´´I’ve seen mutations with cows and sheep before. I’ve seen a one-eyed calf, a two-headed calf, a five-legged calf. But when I saw this youngster I could not believe my eyes. His mother could not deliver him so I had to help the animal,” the 29-year-old veterinary said.
The lamb’s head had human features on – the eyes, the nose and the mouth – only the ears were those of a sheep.
Veterinarians said that the rare mutation most likely occurred as a result of improper nutrition since the fodder for the lamb’s mother was abundant with vitamin A, CNNTurk.com reports.
AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The Dutch are among the lowest users of marijuana or cannabis in Europe despite the Netherlands´ well-known tolerance of the drug, according to a regional study published on Thursday. Among adults in the Netherlands, 5.4 percent used cannabis, compared with the European average of 6.8 percent, according to an annual report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, using latest available figures.
A higher percentage of adults in Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic and France took cannabis last year, the EU agency said, with the highest being Italy at 14.6 percent. Usage in Italy used to be among the lowest at below 10 percent a decade ago.
Countries with the lowest usage rates, according to the Lisbon-based agency, were Romania, Malta, Greece and Bulgaria.
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Does it mean that legalising pot may lower the consumption, acaba
AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The Dutch are among the lowest users of marijuana or cannabis in Europe despite the Netherlands´ well-known tolerance of the drug, according to a regional study published on Thursday. Among adults in the Netherlands, 5.4 percent used cannabis, compared with the European average of 6.8 percent, according to an annual report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, using latest available figures.
A higher percentage of adults in Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic and France took cannabis last year, the EU agency said, with the highest being Italy at 14.6 percent. Usage in Italy used to be among the lowest at below 10 percent a decade ago.
Countries with the lowest usage rates, according to the Lisbon-based agency, were Romania, Malta, Greece and Bulgaria.
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Does it mean that legalising pot may lower the consumption, acaba
AMSTERDAM, Nov 5 (Reuters) - The Dutch are among the lowest users of marijuana or cannabis in Europe despite the Netherlands´ well-known tolerance of the drug, according to a regional study published on Thursday. Among adults in the Netherlands, 5.4 percent used cannabis, compared with the European average of 6.8 percent, according to an annual report by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, using latest available figures.
A higher percentage of adults in Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic and France took cannabis last year, the EU agency said, with the highest being Italy at 14.6 percent. Usage in Italy used to be among the lowest at below 10 percent a decade ago.
Countries with the lowest usage rates, according to the Lisbon-based agency, were Romania, Malta, Greece and Bulgaria.
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Does it mean that legalising pot may lower the consumption, acaba
It appears that way! I wonder about the drinking age in Germany and the effects it has as well.
I read the story about 12 years old Meryam from Dogubeyazit (Eastern Turkey) who supposedly had an ´accident´ with her fathers gun. Coincident that it just happened after she wrote a ´I love you´ letter to a classmate and she was caught? I don´t believe it. It sounds a little too much to ´honour´ revenge.
For those who want to read the story, here it is in Turkish.
I read the story about 12 years old Meryam from Dogubeyazit (Eastern Turkey) who supposedly had an ´accident´ with her fathers gun. Coincident that it just happened after she wrote a ´I love you´ letter to a classmate and she was caught? I don´t believe it. It sounds a little too much to ´honour´ revenge.
For those who want to read the story, here it is in Turkish.
Why would Turkish people get offended by that? This is how it was and how it will be, Kurds just won´t give up the feodal lifestyle and "töre". I have heard supposedly leftist/liberal DTP´s parliament members defend the "töre" with my own ears. This isn´t a simple education issue, it´s cultural. Any action against töre is regarded as an attempt of assimilation. We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.
Why would Turkish people get offended by that? This is how it was and how it will be, Kurds just won´t give up the feodal lifestyle and "töre". I have heard supposedly leftist/liberal DTP´s parliament members defend the "töre" with my own ears. This isn´t a simple education issue, it´s cultural. Any action against töre is regarded as an attempt of assimilation. We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.
We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.
It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!
It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!
It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!
No mercy for child´s abusers !!!!!!!!
ah, only children?
no mercy to any abuser!
but turks prefer to have no mercy or find no tolerance to the mistakes happen in norway or other western countries.
so far i have never seen any turk here in tc posting things happen this sad in turkey or neaighbouring eastern countries (oh, except for israel) to show their outrage or anger. or coming with ideas or wishes to change this.
but turks prefer to have no mercy or find no tolerance to the mistakes happen in norway or other western countries.
so far i have never seen any turk here in tc posting things happen this sad in turkey or neaighbouring eastern countries (oh, except for israel) to show their outrage or anger. or coming with ideas or wishes to change this.
no mercy to any abuser!!!Happens so rarely but today I agree with lemon!!!
It is outrageous!!!In any case children are victims no matter what culture their suffering is a thing that should never happen!!!!I guess we all agree that 12 year old is still a kid!!!
No mercy for child´s abusers !!!!!!!!
How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.
How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.
Sünnet? As long as that is properly done, hardly any boy suffers from the consequences, I don´t think a lot of them will die because of it. Strange to compare sünnet with honour murder!
cannot see connection!!!sorry,I am damn blond!!!!I do not think logically ..TODAY!!!!i am ANGRY!!!!
sunnet and 12 year old girl given example !!
are you ok Yersu???Or should I call Norwegian ambulance for you????
Quoting Yersu
How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.
How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.
what? circumcision? what about that?
are you comparing that with tragedies like honor killing? circumcision is a temporary pain that is rewarded with loads of gifts and money. and then it never hurts again.
How about "sünnet"(cirumcision) for example, I don´t see much difference between these two. A lot of people would think ritual mutilation is a horrible thing but I don´t see it going away anytime soon. This is their culture, they define themselves with it. They brag about the "töre" and are proud of it. You can not pity people who don´t pity themselves, and I don´t care as long as it is not me in front of the barrel.
How about female circumcision then? It leaves a woman permanently disabled so this could be a better example. Anyway; these are not completely different issues as you claim. The least harmful is sünnet, as you increse the scale you have female circumsicion, as you increase it even further you have blood feuds and honor killings. All are harmful acts dictated by ones culture and I don´t see much difference between them except the scale.
(Oops someone seems to have posted about female circumsicion before me, damn I can´t write in English fast enough :S)
How about female circumcision then? It leaves a woman permanently disabled so this could be a better example. Anyway; these are not completely different issues as you claim. The least harmful is sünnet, as you increse the scale you have female circumsicion, as you increase it even further you have blood feuds and honor killings. All are harmful acts dictated by ones culture and I don´t see much difference between them except the scale.
so if there´s a long tradition of cannibalism in a culture, does it mean the world should applaud it and not want it to change? Cool
Yersu, I think you just made it to the post of the week thread!
How did human society grow out of cannibalism? Was there an intervention? (of aliens lets say). Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.
Here is the issue: an average Kurd without töre isn´t much different than an average Turk. You can tell these two apart physically but it isn´t as evident as whites and blacks. They practice the same religion, have similar cuisines etc. More than half of Kurds can not speak any Kurdish dialect and %90+ can understand Turkish. Töre and feudal lifestyle is one of those few things(or maybe the only thing) that sets them apart. That´s one of the reasons why complete abolishment of töre = assimilation for them. And this is true to some degree.
Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.
Yes, we all know the Turkish government is extremely delicate and culture-sensitive, especially towards the Kurdish, or, shall I say, the mountain Turks´ culture.
You´d think a government which does not hesitate to invade other country´s territory in order to do their business should be a bit more successful in fighting crime and providing education. Meanwhile, it´s like leaving those poor girls on their own.
so far i have never seen any turk here in tc posting things happen this sad in turkey or neaighbouring eastern countries to show their outrage or anger. or coming with ideas or wishes to change this.
I agree! Which again shows taht some people are only upset when it´s "racism against Turkish people" or "racism of non-Muslims against Muslims", but not when it´s racism OF Turkish people, or Muslims agasint non-Muslims, or Muslims against other Muslims, even when those events are much worse. I am very skeptical when I see people criticizing others who are unable to bear criticism themselves, because they will turn around and do the same thing when THEY are in the position of power. It´s kind of like what´s happening now in Israel...
Yes, we all know the Turkish government is extremely delicate and culture-sensitive, especially towards the Kurdish, or, shall I say, the mountain Turks´ culture.
You´d think a government which does not hesitate to invade other country´s territory in order to do their business should be a bit more successful in fighting crime and providing education. Meanwhile, it´s like leaving those poor girls on their own.
How about honor killings amongst immigrants in Europe? Shouldn´t European countries succeed where Turkey seems to have failed, fighting crime and education? Last time I checked they are even more common there.
Why would Turkish people get offended by that? This is how it was and how it will be, Kurds just won´t give up the feodal lifestyle and "töre". I have heard supposedly leftist/liberal DTP´s parliament members defend the "töre" with my own ears. This isn´t a simple education issue, it´s cultural. Any action against töre is regarded as an attempt of assimilation. We don´t have any choice but to let them practice their culture as they please.
That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.
Haha, tell this to those who starts the sentence "firstly im not christian but" & "it is horrible however" etc, ok lemon the nightmare of zurna players?
Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.
Maybe they should appeal to their great mother Daniella Mitterand
I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...
How about honor killings amongst immigrants in Europe? Shouldn´t European countries succeed where Turkey seems to have failed, fighting crime and education? Last time I checked they are even more common there.
You´re right - it´s equally disgusting in Europe or anywhere else in the world. As far as I know these crimes are punished with up to life sentence in Europe. Plus there´s a lot of institutions and hostels aimed at helping women who are threatened with violence. Can you please give a link to the numbers of honour killings in Europe vs in Turkey. Somehow I find it hard to believe that they are more common here than there (although I stand to be corrected!)
That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.
there are prominent people in every society, culture or nation, but it does not make people clever in general. intellect of crowd is low, intellect of individual - high.
more develop culture is less aggressive and it is a weak point.
would you try to teach your newborn higher mathematics? i bet - no, you would wait for certain years. though with cultures we do not wait. we are eager to put them on equal to ours levels ...
global culture became more humane, that is why countries and nations are not free to make some small genocides - there will be punishment ... for example, why Napoleon was so successful? his first salvo was fired with live cartridges, rest - blank. and it had its effect
I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...
And you don´t wonder about her committing suicide as the second member of the same family? Her sister (supposedly) committed suicide in 1997 (or 1996, can´t remember). Weird, that deaths are administrated as suicides. Looks like a huge covering up to me.
That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.
You are right catwoman; there has been so many things going on between Turks & Kurds that it isn´t possible for us to intervene in their lifestyle anymore. We are alienated and that was what I was trying to say from the start.
An example: I have relatives who work as teacher and nurse there, and did you know that infantile paralysis is still a serious problem among the Kurds? Because many rural Kurds reject vaccines as there are rumours that Turks are trying to sterilize them. Go figure, the trust between the peoples are THAT terrible. You know, like that story of the old man and the snake. And I don´t see it getting better soon, the only Kurds that have no issues are the so called Turkified Kurds. Like American of Irish descent etc.
Anyway; This is not an issue of who is right or wrong anymore. Turks or Turkish government can no longer intervene such issues, they will defend it more and more. My point right from the start, let them live their culture freely. Let them run amuck killing whoever they want. Sooner or later they will see that this is ridiculous and grow out of it, by themselves.
I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...
As the penalties were increased for Töre related crimes (töre saikiyle adam öldürme), forcing suicides has become a new trend. I don´t think these type of deaths can really be called suicide. And I think non Kurdish and non-Islamist teachers should have been selected to go work there, too late now :S
I wonder if anyone read here read that news, it says she committed suicide, thats because of the love letter she wrote to her classmate, and letter was caught by her teacher. Brainless teacher spreaded that news so she was very afraid and ashamed, of course thats the result of their society...
I admit I didn´t,just got angry at the fact that a child died.But still outrageous is the fact that girl´s letter was brought into daily light,her feeling rideculed and her soul tramped.We adults pretty often destroy children in the name of culture,traditons,values,etc...
Thanks for explaining but it does not change the fact that girl is lost,a kid is lost only bcs of adult´s stupidity!!!!!!
And you don´t wonder about her committing suicide as the second member of the same family? Her sister (supposedly) committed suicide in 1997 (or 1996, can´t remember). Weird, that deaths are administrated as suicides. Looks like a huge covering up to me.
Saying the truth is not racism i think. Yersu, it seems you are the new racist member
I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.
I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.
I have to say your english is excellent, much better than mine
I also read that news. Very sad...What is more sad is that stupidity is called as Töre and it is usual...That event is a sample..Unfortunately there are a lot of girls like that especially in the eastern Turkey...They are a step away from getting crazy becouse of family domination.
That events happen in closed societies. We lose our tiny girls...Turkish goverment has to produce a social policyto transform that kind of society. I hope that atrocity would become the last but i am sure it is not as long as goverment dont emphasize that event seriosly...
I assure you I am not an old member if that is what you are trying to imply. I found this site through another forum, where a quite angry British woman had posted an irrelevant and bitter topic about how Turks should be exterminated from the surface of the earth. It turns out she was scammed by a love rat, and along my searches about the topic I stumbled upon this site. I read some stuff on the forums (all that Dudu terminology and stuff), felt like as if Turks were somewhat underhanded here and decided to become a member. I hope to improve my English as well, as a side effect.
Oi! That´s not true! Fine, we do criticise some things but 99% of us got here because we enjoyed our holidays there or decided to learn the language. I am the first to recommend visiting Turkey to everyone I know!
It´s just that some of the people have been here since 2004 if I remember correctly, over this time we´ve covered all topics about the beauty of Turkish landscapes and cuisine. Now we´re simply commenting on the news that somebody quotes. I wish there was more nicer news, though...
I assure you I am not an old member if that is what you are trying to imply. I found this site through another forum, where a quite angry British woman had posted an irrelevant and bitter topic about how Turks should be exterminated from the surface of the earth. It turns out she was scammed by a love rat, and along my searches about the topic I stumbled upon this site. I read some stuff on the forums (all that Dudu terminology and stuff), felt like as if Turks were somewhat underhanded here and decided to become a member. I hope to improve my English as well, as a side effect.
just teasing)))and I am not trying to imply anything,I am just having fun with TLC as always
and i support dd post above
we discussed almost all here...ahhh..wish you luck with side effect!Hope you don´t need to be vaccinated???))))
You are right catwoman; there has been so many things going on between Turks & Kurds that it isn´t possible for us to intervene in their lifestyle anymore. We are alienated and that was what I was trying to say from the start.
An example: I have relatives who work as teacher and nurse there, and did you know that infantile paralysis is still a serious problem among the Kurds? Because many rural Kurds reject vaccines as there are rumours that Turks are trying to sterilize them. Go figure, the trust between the peoples are THAT terrible. You know, like that story of the old man and the snake. And I don´t see it getting better soon, the only Kurds that have no issues are the so called Turkified Kurds. Like American of Irish descent etc.
Anyway; This is not an issue of who is right or wrong anymore. Turks or Turkish government can no longer intervene such issues, they will defend it more and more. My point right from the start, let them live their culture freely. Let them run amuck killing whoever they want. Sooner or later they will see that this is ridiculous and grow out of it, by themselves.
You´re right, a lot of horrible things have happened to Kurds from teh hands of Turks, but you will not see any Turk acknowledge that.. or at least not many. The process of improving will have to be long and is going to be harder because of what happened in the past, but you cannot get anywhere if you first do not acknowledge your mistakes and look for a way to make up for them. You still see Turks desiring a military solution for the conflict, they just refuse to see the root of the problem (but they notice racism anywhere when it´s them that´s in trouble - not to say taht it´s bad, but it´s certainly hypocritical). The situation is the same as it was in Ireland, until it dawned on Britain to address the roots of the grievances, and suddenly terrorism stopped!
Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the U.S. military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.
The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.
U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.
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"This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It´s literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we´re fighting. We´re emboldening an enemy."
That´s quite outrageous that a gun manufacturer produces something against the military rules and nobody checks it prior to it being handed to soldiers.
But what you are saying is the same as saying that all muslims are terrotists is the truth, not racism. How come you see this behavior in others, but not in yourself?
You´re right, a lot of horrible things have happened to Kurds from teh hands of Turks
Uhm, that´s kinda putting words into my mouth. I do not deny what Turks did, but displaying Kurds as angels, which seems to be the defautl behaviour by many, isn´t realistic at all. I rather believe in the idiom "Mazlumlar zulmetmekte geç kalanlardır" (which I remember there was a similar idiom in English, bur I can´t remember, meaning the oppressed are the ones that were late to oppress). We saw it many times throughout the history, Zimbabwe, Haiti, Israel, and we are starting to see it in Turkey.
No need to sugarcoat anything, or debate over who is/was wrong or right at this point. Kurds & Turks do not want to live together and the sooner this problem is dealt with the better.
But what you are saying is the same as saying that all muslims are terrotists is the truth, not racism. How come you see this behavior in others, but not in yourself?
, be sure from the beginning i tell the same things that Yersu mentioned, what about you? Do you say all muslims are terrorists is the truth all the time? And you are talking about sincerety. Btw where did Yersu call all Kurds are primitive and backward? He just told its their culture...
[...] We saw it many times throughout the history, Zimbabwe, Haiti, Israel, and we are starting to see it in Turkey.
No need to sugarcoat anything, or debate over who is/was wrong or right at this point. Kurds & Turks do not want to live together and the sooner this problem is dealt with the better.
When you said something about honour killings in Europe, and I was surprised, since I haven´t heard much about it in Holland. But ofcourse, you meant the U.K., France and Germany.
I think Kurdish people in general beware anything offered tot hem by the Turkish government, even medical care. But can you blame them? You can´t compare the Kurds to people in Israel... people in Israel have their own country, and also in general a high standard of living. Nobody can deny that the economy of the east of Turkey is much less developped then other parts of Turkey. Things like a good infrastructure and good education is often missing, and as far as I know, this is a job of the government to do. The east of Turkey happens to be highly populated by Kurdish people. There is a direct link between education and things like honour killings. There is also a direct link between infrastructural development and education... The government has a job to do, and yes it is a hard job, and yes there will be resistence. But when did the Turkish government didn´t do something because a bit of resistence before?
I´m not blaming this girl commiting suicide (or her family killing her, we´ll never know) on the Turkish government directly. But there needs to be something done about structural under-developped areas in Turkey, and I believe (and mostly hope) this will improve the lives of people in more ways then just with money.
By the way... no critisism but a real question... What do you think is the solution, if Kurds and Turks really cannot live together? A Kurdish seperate state, or perhaps a Kurdish state under the umbrella of Turkey? What´s your view?
When you said something about honour killings in Europe, and I was surprised, since I haven´t heard much about it in Holland. But ofcourse, you meant the U.K., France and Germany.
I think Kurdish people in general beware anything offered tot hem by the Turkish government, even medical care. But can you blame them? You can´t compare the Kurds to people in Israel... people in Israel have their own country, and also in general a high standard of living. Nobody can deny that the economy of the east of Turkey is much less developped then other parts of Turkey. Things like a good infrastructure and good education is often missing, and as far as I know, this is a job of the government to do. The east of Turkey happens to be highly populated by Kurdish people. There is a direct link between education and things like honour killings. There is also a direct link between infrastructural development and education... The government has a job to do, and yes it is a hard job, and yes there will be resistence. But when did the Turkish government didn´t do something because a bit of resistence before?
I´m not blaming this girl commiting suicide (or her family killing her, we´ll never know) on the Turkish government directly. But there needs to be something done about structural under-developped areas in Turkey, and I believe (and mostly hope) this will improve the lives of people in more ways then just with money.
By the way... no critisism but a real question... What do you think is the solution, if Kurds and Turks really cannot live together? A Kurdish seperate state, or perhaps a Kurdish state under the umbrella of Turkey? What´s your view?
Barba_mama;
Thanks for you reply however you are only pointing out the obvious:
-Hey we have some some issues in a region of our country. Crime, killings, poverty and whatnot.
-Hmm maybe you should improve the education and economy...
-Wow, I don´t know why I never thought about that before!
I don´t want to offend you but seriously..The issue is much more complicated. And it´s not like regional differences are exclusive to Turkey, look at Italy for example which resides at the heart of Europe.There is even a separatist Northern group who wants to cut south off as far as I know.
Anyway; as for your question, I don´t think there is a solution. Turkey as we know it won´t exist in the future. I am a Turkish separatist btw. and people like me are increasing day by day. A peaceful separation and a population exchange is the only thing that can prevent the impending bloodshed.
Turkish FM Davutoglu unveils new manifesto for Turkish diplomacy
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All maps are subjective. When you take a look at it from Japan, Japan seems to be at the center and when you take a look at it from the United Kingdom, it seems in the center. However, whatever map you take a look at, Turkey is always at the center.
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Davutoğlu said: “We must have a message for the world. We are in the position of doing justice to this region. There is no other country in the world that has the same location as us. We must be active in these five, six regions simultaneously … Turkey’s diplomacy can only be compared with that of five or six countries in the world.”
Thanks for you reply however you are only pointing out the obvious:
-Hey we have some some issues in a region of our country. Crime, killings, poverty and whatnot.
-Hmm maybe you should improve the education and economy...
-Wow, I don´t know why I never thought about that before!
I don´t want to offend you but seriously..The issue is much more complicated. And it´s not like regional differences are exclusive to Turkey, look at Italy for example which resides at the heart of Europe.There is even a separatist Northern group who wants to cut south off as far as I know.
Anyway; as for your question, I don´t think there is a solution. Turkey as we know it won´t exist in the future. I am a Turkish separatist btw. and people like me are increasing day by day. A peaceful separation and a population exchange is the only thing that can prevent the impending bloodshed.
Ofcourse it´s more complicated, but we can´t state the history of the issue and all the factors on a website like this. A whole book won´t cover the different aspects, so I just took out two points that are easier to solve. You can´t change anything about history, the people who´ve died on both sides, broken promises, things like that. I think a lot of Turkish people have an opinion about the Kurdish "situation" without taking the trouble to actually study the history of the issue. And it is SO hard to find a objective source on this topic. It seems that always parts of history seem to be missing, and a very black/white view comes across. My idealism is not because of a lack of knowledge, my idealism is just because I AM an idealist
Who knows, maybe I will go to the east some day and teach in some small village My Turkish sucks, but my Kurdish is even worse. I can count to ten, say hi, how are you...good, bad... and no... I can´t even say yes! Me in a Kurdish populated village...won´t that be weird... Anyway, a nice documentary is "On the way to school" by Orhan Esikoy and Özgür Dogan. It´s a must see, how a young Turkish teacher from Denizli goes to a small village in the east to teach.
A population exchange... like the Greek-Turkish thing?
Again news from the East: An employee of the city hall in Yenisehir has to give half of his salary to his wife because he was violent towards her. That is the new rule for local government personnel. The rule will be executed in cases of domestic violence or polygamy.
Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the U.S. military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.
The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.
U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.
(...)
"This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It´s literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we´re fighting. We´re emboldening an enemy."
That´s quite outrageous that a gun manufacturer produces something against the military rules and nobody checks it prior to it being handed to soldiers.
Are you kidding that´s the least of our worries...we still have passengers with bombs strapped to them flying over our cities.
Again news from the East: An employee of the city hall in Yenisehir has to give half of his salary to his wife because he was violent towards her. That is the new rule for local government personnel. The rule will be executed in cases of domestic violence or polygamy.
I have the feeling that we Dutch are not very welcome anymore in Turkey.....
A travel agent launched a new advertising campaign with - at least - not too popular pictures.
That´s what I read on forums here. I found an article in the Turkish version of Hürriyet (couldn´t find it in the English one) but as I can´t read all that, someone willing to translate and give a summery?
I have the feeling that we Dutch are not very welcome anymore in Turkey.....
A travel agent launched a new advertising campaign with - at least - not too popular pictures.
That´s what I read on forums here. I found an article in the Turkish version of Hürriyet (couldn´t find it in the English one) but as I can´t read all that, someone willing to translate and give a summery?
You had the key idea, for a bit more detail and summary of tranlsation see below
A new campaign was launched which used the head of Ataturk from Turkish bank notes merging them with photos of young women and bikinis(and others)
Holland´s largest tour company caused great offence amongst Turks with its latest advertisement campaign.
The dispaly of bill boards in all four corners of the country and decorating streets with posters of women wearing bikinis but with the head of Ataturk caused a strong reaction
With these pictures the D Reizen has insulted Ataturk
Seeing the reaction of the campaign in Holland the President of the Ataturk association Yılmaz Çalışkan said " We can not understand how D- Reizen has made such a big mistake" The boards must be removed immediately.
D - Reizens Commercial Affairs General Manager Ton Vendrig said we did not mean to do this the intention was not to offend (this idea) . Normally these advert posters would remain hanging on display through the month of January, however with the reaction that was given regarding the poster the decision was taken to remove them. The most the posters would remain was 3 days,. He also apologised to all of Turkey.
I haven´t seen the billboards, I just saw the commercial on tv, and I thought it was a nice idea. But then again, it was a lot of different paper moneybills, and I didn´t watch for Ataturk´s head and the bikini. I guess if you only see his head, and a bikini under it as a still image, it will look a bit weird. I wouldn´t go so far as to say it´s a big insult or something. Just an honest mistake, taking a very popular destination and money that most people recognize from the tv-commercial.
You Dutch seem to make howlers many times.Still wet behind the ears?you should bone up on ....asap
and I think you should respect some important symbols for others if you want to gain respect in return
Ohhhwwww, sensitive...have you seen the tv commercial? Not the still pictures, but the moving images? It will be clear that this was not some kind of intentional insult to Ataturk or something, so you should just say "Okay, I guess you all didn´t know how sensitive this is for us Turkish people, so can you please remove this image? You will, okay thank you " No need to be dramatic about it. By the way, many other heads of important people from other countries were also in the commercial, and guys in swimshorts or woman shopping.
Okay,I only hope those guys whose legs were not XcrossedSeriously speaking even mockery if it was a mockery used in an advert,or using some landmarks if it was using landmarks should have its limits and should have been reconsidered by advert sepcialists before launching it.And I hope BM you understand what I mean.Other country important symbols or icons under no circumstances should be used in mocking way.
Okay,I only hope those guys whose legs were not XcrossedSeriously speaking even mockery if it was a mockery used in an advert,or using some landmarks if it was using landmarks should have its limits and should have been reconsidered by advert sepcialists before launching it.And I hope BM you understand what I mean.Other country important symbols or icons under no circumstances should be used in mocking way.
It wasn´t mockery. The slogan was something like, "because we offer cheap holidays, you´ll have more money to spend in your holiday destination" and then you saw different types of money in those holiday destinations. I think people are becoming angry over something when they do not even fully understand what the commercial was like. I´ve just seen it again on tv a few minutes ago. This time, it was basically the same, only the Turkish lira-bill was left out. I think being focussed on a woman on bikini is the mistake people make. I´m trying to find the commercial on youtube or something to show it to you, so you can form your own opinion, but can´t find it
I understand that the advertisment-person had to consider it, but he was thinking from a Dutch perspective. He doesn´t think about how sensitive some people can be. It wasn´t a woman in a bikini walking around with an Ataturk mask or something. It was showing money in a fun way. The advertisment person was focussed on the money and the message, and not on Ataturk´s face.
I have a confession to make about this topic. I am brought up as a Kemalist person myself and whenever I hear somebody badmouthing him I feel like bashing that persons head in. I don´t know why, the hate & anger seems just so natural to me at that moment. As if someone was attacking my family members or something.
I´ve noticed that And I´ve noticed a lot of people in Turkey feel that way. I understand the innitial reaction, but then you have to take a step back, take a deep breath, and look at the real situation. It has nothing to do with the Dutch being wet behind the ears, or the Dutch making howlers (do we really make that many mistakes in general?) There´s no reason for getting extremely upset, but a simple "hey, we know you made this commercial, but it actually makes us feel uncomfortable" will do. A softer reaction will also make the company change it´s commercial, but it will take a lot of tension out of a silly situation. I feel like it´s all being blown up out of proportion.
I´ve noticed that And I´ve noticed a lot of people in Turkey feel that way. I understand the innitial reaction, but then you have to take a step back, take a deep breath, and look at the real situation. It has nothing to do with the Dutch being wet behind the ears, or the Dutch making howlers (do we really make that many mistakes in general?) There´s no reason for getting extremely upset, but a simple "hey, we know you made this commercial, but it actually makes us feel uncomfortable" will do. A softer reaction will also make the company change it´s commercial, but it will take a lot of tension out of a silly situation. I feel like it´s all being blown up out of proportion.
i have found out media programme some weeks ago. It´s called Raedon TV. It is safe and its content is so wide.
What cought my eye today is a tv channel on this programme called rocktelevision. It lets me listen any kind of rock music. The ones who like rock may interest with it. http://www.rocktelevision.com/
Edited (1/25/2010) by oeince
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Why? Because then you could claim it´s not your problem?
To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.
To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.
So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!
My Turkish friend who lives in Holland refused to watch Dutch news for a while. She said it negatively reflected Muslims, since the news reported on Muslim men who tried to bomb stuff. She said they shouldn´t say that they are Muslims, or give more info on how these men are forced sometimes to bomb stuff. I thought to myself... the problem is not the news, the problem is the guy with the bomb...
Anyway, she is also the kind of person who would say that this double suicide needs to be investigated further, regarding cultural background. She made such a remark before about a honour killing.
So... I´m confused by her... when should I check into somebody´s background and when should I not... PC is hard
To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.
So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!
It can´t be called excluding but think about it from my perspective. I am a Turkish person, by mind and by blood. I haven´t seen or heard of any honur killings/töre suicides in my family or in my neighborhood or in my city or in my region, ever. I don´t even know how that whole stuff works, it´s completely alien to us. Now, why would I want to be associated with that?
Anyway, just don´t mind me. I am very agitated about this topic and I could go on for days :S
So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!
On the contrary this group by their practices exclude themselves from society.
Teyrebazen Azadiya Kurdistan aka TAK (the freedom falcons of Kurdistan) which is the subsidiary of PKK and which takes part acts in terrorism acts in metropolises and touristic places, had accomplished congress on January 2010 after six years and announced a war declaration threatening the metropolises and touristic resorts of Turkey. It is declared "from now on everyehere in Turkey is our battleground but foremost the metropolises of Turkey" and addressing tourists "if you do not want to be the target of ongoing war, immediately leave Turkey and give up coming to Turkey."
Teyrebazen Azadiya Kurdistan aka TAK (the freedom falcons of Kurdistan) which is the subsidiary of PKK and which takes part acts in terrorism acts in metropolises and touristic places, had accomplished congress on January 2010 after six years and announced a war declaration threatening the metropolises and touristic resorts of Turkey. It is declared "from now on everyehere in Turkey is our battleground but foremost the metropolises of Turkey" and addressing tourists "if you do not want to be the target of ongoing war, immediately leave Turkey and give up coming to Turkey."
This is alarming....and deadly serious. I tried to find information in English on this, but couldn´t find anything. You don´t know any English sites on this, do you?
hmmm....I´m curious what was edited out by Trudy too....
it seems resort workers being of mostly Kurdish origin disturbed Trudy and thought to be inflammatory, interesting. As far as i know giving only the news without personal comment and source is not welcomed in forums ...
Quoting alameda
hmmm....I´m curious what was edited out by Trudy too....
i havent searched but i dont think english news can be found now, maybe a few days later if they want to publish of course...
Quoting alameda
This is alarming....and deadly serious. I tried to find information in English on this, but couldn´t find anything. You don´t know any English sites on this, do you?
I just watched the Dutch news, and heared that the Dance Parade in Rotterdam won´t be the same anymore It used to be a parade of trucks with different DJs driving in a line around town. Free party! Woohoo!
But because of big riots started by idiot holigans in the Rotterdam area last year, they are afraid to do it that way this year. So it´s just going to be a closed concert, with tickets in only available in pre-sale.
... I hate holigans! Ruining everything for everybody. And the people at city hall are cowards I want my annual party back!
I just watched the Dutch news, and heared that the Dance Parade in Rotterdam won´t be the same anymore It used to be a parade of trucks with different DJs driving in a line around town. Free party! Woohoo!
But because of big riots started by idiot holigans in the Rotterdam area last year, they are afraid to do it that way this year. So it´s just going to be a closed concert, with tickets in only available in pre-sale.
... I hate holigans! Ruining everything for everybody. And the people at city hall are cowards I want my annual party back!
No more Dance Parade? They always came by very loudly about 100 metre from my house! I´ll miss the noise....
I am no more shocked by honor killings, but this one seems to be an extreme case of inhumanity so it caught my eye. It will probably find its place in foreign media as "Turkish" honour killing anyway so here goes:
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25053450/
Medine Memi (16) who has been missing for 4 months, was found buried under the henhouse of her house. The autopsy indicates that she was alive and conscious at the time of burial. Father Ayhan Memi and grandfather Fethi Memi were taken under custody, they stated she might have had some male friends and they were discontent with it.
-Burying your daughter of 16 years old alive.
-Living, eating & sleeping in 5 meters radius of it for months.
I am no more shocked by honor killings, but this one seems to be an extreme case of inhumanity so it caught my eye. It will probably find its place in foreign media as "Turkish" honour killing anyway so here goes:
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25053450/
Medine Memi (16) who has been missing for 4 months, was found buried under the henhouse of her house. The autopsy indicates that she was alive and conscious at the time of burial. Father Ayhan Memi and grandfather Fethi Memi were taken under custody, they stated she might have had some male friends and they were discontent with it.
-Burying your daughter of 16 years old alive.
-Living, eating & sleeping in 5 meters radius of it for months.
These ´people´ need to be punished hard. I would applaude if they were sentenced to life in prison. And yes, it happened in Turkey so the press will call it a Turkish crime. (If something happens in, let´s say Texas, the press will call it an American crime, not a Texan crime.)
But Yersu, you know what I find so typical in your postings? The way you seem so sure that events like this are only done by Kurds and never by Turks. Does that mean Turks are not capable of doing such horrible things?
I am no more shocked by honor killings, but this one seems to be an extreme case of inhumanity so it caught my eye. It will probably find its place in foreign media as "Turkish" honour killing anyway so here goes:
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25053450/
Medine Memi (16) who has been missing for 4 months, was found buried under the henhouse of her house. The autopsy indicates that she was alive and conscious at the time of burial. Father Ayhan Memi and grandfather Fethi Memi were taken under custody, they stated she might have had some male friends and they were discontent with it.
-Burying your daughter of 16 years old alive.
-Living, eating & sleeping in 5 meters radius of it for months.
I choose not to comment on the cultural identity of the family of this victim simply because it doesn´t matter. If you are a 16 year old girl being buried alive, do you care that the bastard that is buring you is a Kurd, Turk, American, Chrisitan, Muslim...NO! Very simply put these are animals - not worthy of cultural classification. They belong with the lowliest of beasts. It is in times like this that I am grateful for my religion....it is a small comfort to imagine a special place in hell for these animals.
I choose not to comment on the cultural identity of the family of this victim simply because it doesn´t matter. If you are a 16 year old girl being buried alive, do you care that the bastard that is buring you is a Kurd, Turk, American, Chrisitan, Muslim...NO! Very simply put these are animals - not worthy of cultural classification. They belong with the lowliest of beasts. It is in times like this that I am grateful for my religion....it is a small comfort to imagine a special place in hell for these animals.
Dear Elizabeth;
A serial killer or a psychopath can be called an animal, as it is personal urges or whatever, but personal. But this is not.
I am tired of listening to clueless people, generally in good faith though, telling this is related to education or economical levels, but in many situations this is proven wrong. There are organizations(NGO) that regard the feudal islamist lifestyle, töre, as their identity.(the Hezbollah/Kurd-Islam fraction) They even have weekly magazines. What would you think about a group of people who have enough economic power and ability to print a magazine, or read it; but yet support töre?
So no; this can not be regarded as an individual event.
These ´people´ need to be punished hard. I would applaude if they were sentenced to life in prison. And yes, it happened in Turkey so the press will call it a Turkish crime. (If something happens in, let´s say Texas, the press will call it an American crime, not a Texan crime.)
But Yersu, you know what I find so typical in your postings? The way you seem so sure that events like this are only done by Kurds and never by Turks. Does that mean Turks are not capable of doing such horrible things?
Dear Trudy;
If you return and look at my post you will see that I haven´t used the word "Kurd" in it. Can you please explain why you thought I was implying they were Kurdish, rather than let´s say Laz, Zaza or Circassians?
If you return and look at my post you will see that I haven´t used the word "Kurd" in it. Can you please explain why you thought I was implying they were Kurdish, rather than let´s say Laz, Zaza or Circassians?
You weren´t implying that this time but you said it before.
A serial killer or a psychopath can be called an animal, as it is personal urges or whatever, but personal. But this is not.
I am tired of listening to clueless people, generally in good faith though, telling this is related to education or economical levels, but in many situations this is proven wrong. There are organizations(NGO) that regard the feudal islamist lifestyle, töre, as their identity.(the Hezbollah/Kurd-Islam fraction) They even have weekly magazines. What would you think about a group of people who have enough economic power and ability to print a magazine, or read it; but yet support töre?
So no; this can not be regarded as an individual event.
Be that as it may, Yersu, I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I am quite simply saying that the culture or ethnic identity of these people in now way affects how horrible the crime is.
The following YouTube video is made by Dutch people complaining about multiculturalism, immigration and yes, Muslims. It´s one of the unfortunately many ideas people in The Netherlands have, happily still a minority. When I see a video like this, I´m very much ashamed to be Dutch. Not all Dutch think like this, not all Dutch have lost their tolerance and openness.
A serial killer or a psychopath can be called an animal, as it is personal urges or whatever, but personal. But this is not.
I am tired of listening to clueless people, generally in good faith though, telling this is related to education or economical levels, but in many situations this is proven wrong. There are organizations(NGO) that regard the feudal islamist lifestyle, töre, as their identity.(the Hezbollah/Kurd-Islam fraction) They even have weekly magazines. What would you think about a group of people who have enough economic power and ability to print a magazine, or read it; but yet support töre?
So no; this can not be regarded as an individual event.
Double standard alert!
When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here), does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!
One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided ) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries
Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.
When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here), does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!
One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided ) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries
Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.
When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here), does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!
One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided ) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries
Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.
When a Kurdish person commits an honour killing it´s "those Kurds" who keep doing that stuff. When a crazy Muslim guy puts a bomb in his underwear its "not the Muslims, but a tiny portion of crazy Islamists." Let´s say that alllll the bad things that happen to women in Turkey is from the hand of a Kurd (like we never heard of a Turk hitting his daughter or wife or doing something bad...anyway, hypothetical here), does this mean that ALL Kurd are supporters of some kind of feudal system? NO!
One of my closest friends is a Kurd, and he is one of the most emancipated people I have ever met in Turkey. To put him in a box of feudal system nutts is unfair. Just like it is unfair to put any Muslim on this forum in the box of Muslim terrorists.... Just like it´s unfair to put me, as a Dutchy, in the box of those nuttcases who blame every bad part of their own sad lives on "immigration" of "dangerous Islamists into Holland." (Watch the link Trudy provided ) They seem to forget that immigration is part of Dutch culture, and that even our national flower, the tulip, is the result of importing something from one of those "dangerous" countries
Anyway, it seems people like to put others in boxes, but get very upset when they themselves are put into any box.
First of all; I am not claiming Turks are angels, we have murderers, rapists and thiefs amongst Turks as there are among every other nation out there. However; "honor killings" and "female circumsizion" are almost totally Kurdish phenomeons. These occur in the Kurdish populated regions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria; but not amongst Turks, Arabs or Persians. Let´s get this straight please.
And please; not the "my Kurdish(Persian, Turkish, German) friend" argument again. We call this "benim Kürt arkadaşlarım da var" argument and it is far older and tired PC bs than you can ever imagine.
If there are some individuals within a society that have the feature "X"; this doesn´t mean every single one of them have it. But it for sure means that "X" occurs among this society, to some degree. I can´t really understand why you come up with your Kurdish friend at this point, because if a few bad individuals can not account for every Kurd out there, neither a good one does.
As for "double standards", I have none of it. There is nothing wrong with stating the obvious. E.g. . Ever-increasing radicalism among Muslims is becoming a threat for the whole world. E.g. Neverending feudal Kurd-Islamist culture is getting out of hand in Turkey.
Btw.; just as I mentioned this news seems to have found its way to global media. Here; quoting a fellow Turkish Class site member on another thread:
"Have you heard that a Turkish girl was buried alive because she chatted with guys? How could their male relatives so cruel? "
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45500
Put yourself in my shoes, and you might be able to understand why I am so much agitated, and so ashamed of getting belittled in a site that is supposed to teach my language.
Who said all Kurds are supporters of their feudal system? But i can say many of them are the slaves of that feudal system, it is how they directed by their agas who are now in mostly Turkish parliament but those even as a respect avoid to play Turkish anathem in the opening of their congress.
By the way it is not the Turks firstly who do not want to be put in same box but the Kurds and their fellow foreign supporters as they always emphasize that Turks have to show respect to their customs. I know EU parliamenters who firstly visited Diyarbakır instead of Ankara impudently. So where is double standards? Sorry but your argument simply falls down...
Sometimes people clearly say things without literally using the words. It doesn´t require much reading between the lines. I´ve just grown weary of the subdued Kurd-bashing. This was ment to take a look at yourself for a change, but guess it didn´t work much.
Yes, same applies to some people as well, no need to read between the lines, and i think Turks are fed up with being scapegoat of anything. We also have good saying like "Gözünün çapağına bakmaz, elaleme şaşı der."
Sometimes people clearly say things without literally using the words. It doesn´t require much reading between the lines. I´ve just grown weary of the subdued Kurd-bashing. This was ment to take a look at yourself for a change, but guess it didn´t work much.
it`s so ironic that you are talking about "Kurd bashing"
just a few days ago a Kurdish man burried her daughter alive in a chicken cage in Kahta which is a Kurdish province of Adiyaman which is also a Kurdish city.
and these comments are from the quardian news
"and will anything happen to the police who refused to protect her after she reported being beaten repeatedly, or is that all right because turkish women are the property of their male relatives?"
"turkish are all misogynists. take a look at their common laws. everything works against women."
"the many turkish men are way too preoccupied what goes on in their underpants that even a pure innocent life has no meaning for these crazy bunch. don´t let these guys enter eu please!"
"why is it that britain is such a vocal supporter of turkish eu membership? do we want or need a people in our club whose culture permits of a mindset whereby it is acceptable to bury a young girl alive for the sake of "honour"?"
"some countries appear stuck in the middle ages. if turks want to join the eec they need a massive overhaul of the way they conduct themselves."
"backward country. i pray they stay out of eu. why so many turks in uk now?"
yeah sure you are fed up with "Kurd bashing". but if its "Turk bashing" even when the criminals are Kurdish it`s ridiculously fine.
and the murder is labelled as a "Turkish honor killing" by the western media. just what I would expect. any body wants to read the comments? don`t worry there is no "Kurd bashing" in them.
When I notice Turk bashing I also address these people and try to make them aware of what they are doing. Two wrongs don´t make a right in the real world, only in mathematical theory
By the way, you actually totally pointed out what I call a double standard. Being angry when somebody makes comments about all Turks in a negative way, but at the same times painting a single, negative picture on Kurdish people. How about something positive for a change?
When I notice Turk bashing I also address these people and try to make them aware of what they are doing. Two wrongs don´t make a right in the real world, only in mathematical theory
so you will inform these people that its not Turks but Kurds who carry out honor killings in Turkey?
you can start with informing the commentators of the news above if you are honest.
When I notice Turk bashing I also address these people and try to make them aware of what they are doing. Two wrongs don´t make a right in the real world, only in mathematical theory
By the way, you actually totally pointed out what I call a double standard. Being angry when somebody makes comments about all Turks in a negative way, but at the same times painting a single, negative picture on Kurdish people. How about something positive for a change?
ahhaha look who is talking about double standars, your people accuse Turks even for the crimes of Kurds to make them look like angelic and its us being hypocrites.
Does history repeat itself? The period that Turkey pass through today with the ergenekon lie, was very similarly experienced during the last time of Ottomans...
ahhaha look who is talking about double standars, your people accuse Turks even for the crimes of Kurds to make them look like angelic and its us being hypocrites.
Kurds are not angels...but they are not devils either. I´m just saying that Kurds are people, all individual people, and not some kind of big collective who´s hobby it is to slash down women.
And I don´t read the Guardian, but I do read the comments on this forum, so it seems more logical for me to comment on stuff I do read instead of stuff I don´t read. And the newspapers that I did read on this issue of the girl buried alive, mentioned facts only. That it happened in Turkey, which it did. It didn´t say anything about the cultural background of the men (it didn´t say Turkish men buried a girl).
I´m just saying that you shouldn´t throw a entire group of people into one big pile of negative prejudices. By the way...who is "my" people...what do you really know about my background?
Maybe he will reply to you when he gets a new nick in near future ...hey barba what do you think there are remarkable rumours that Israel will attack Iran as soon as the snow melts?
Quoting barba_mama
I´m just saying that you shouldn´t throw a entire group of people into one big pile of negative prejudices. By the way...who is "my" people...what do you really know about my background?
Maybe he will reply to you when he gets a new nick in near future ...hey barba what do you think there are remarkable rumours that Israel will attack Iran as soon as the snow melts?
I think Israel has no business attacking Iran. Sure the Iranian government threatens to whipe Israel of the map, and sure they have recently anounced some alarming nuclear news... But I wonder if this nuclear threat to Israel is so realistic, and I think there is no solid ground for starting some kind of dangerous war at the moment, which would escalade in pro and con Israel-countries starting an even bigger mess.
But luckily there´s always snow in the North pole (global warming is taking longer then we thought ) so we won´t have to worry for now
I found these photos posted on some forum to make fun of Turkish people, but I think there is nothing to be ashamed of in them some of them are hilarious
Eclipse in Antalya:
This one cracked me up:
I mean what the hell..Beating on metals is some kinda pagan tradition or something to make evil spirits go away, I can understand that but shooting at the sun?
i didnt know the turkish police shields are as good as sunglasses!
They are sunglasses, sleds, doors, window shutters, table tops, water collectors, if you have enough, you can even build a small shelter out of them. PLEAZZZZZE, lemon, these are TURKISH policemen....they are not ordinary policemen! Did somebody squeeze your head again?
They are sunglasses, sleds, doors, window shutters, table tops, water collectors, if you have enough, you can even build a small shelter out of them. PLEAZZZZZE, lemon, these are TURKISH policemen....they are not ordinary policemen! Did somebody squeeze your head again?
.... and, lets not forger they are also solar eclipse glasses.
They are sunglasses, sleds, doors, window shutters, table tops, water collectors, if you have enough, you can even build a small shelter out of them. PLEAZZZZZE, lemon, these are TURKISH policemen....they are not ordinary policemen! Did somebody squeeze your head again?
"I promise that if i am elected, Iran will not acquire nuclear arms, and this implies everything necessary to carry out this" Benjamin Netanyahu said before elections. This is another mask similar to the mask used to invade Iraq and shows how zionists created a fear empire all over the world as showing Iran powerful. But i think i agree with you, there had been an economic crisis last year though any of these countries did not decrease defence expenses and arming. And also the countries that have investements in Iran such as France, Russia, China, Korea, Germany etc will not be happy since they sell a product to Iran ten times more expensive because of ongoing embargo.
Lets wait till the snow melts, it takes time in Iran
Quoting barba_mama
I think Israel has no business attacking Iran. Sure the Iranian government threatens to whipe Israel of the map, and sure they have recently anounced some alarming nuclear news... But I wonder if this nuclear threat to Israel is so realistic, and I think there is no solid ground for starting some kind of dangerous war at the moment, which would escalade in pro and con Israel-countries starting an even bigger mess.
But luckily there´s always snow in the North pole (global warming is taking longer then we thought ) so we won´t have to worry for now
Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say
Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.
The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.
“It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”
Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough?
Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough?
They are moaning. The body scan is first checked by a computer. Only when the computer notices something that is out of the ordinary, a human is called to check the person. If it´s a woman who´s scanned, a woman will check her. If it´s a man who´s scanned, a man will check him.
In Islam it is not "forbidden" or something for a professional to see you naked. How else can you be checked by your doctor? And the scans don´t look like you are literally standing their naked. It´s not like porn or something. The image is strange looking, without colour.
Anyway, if I had to choose between a computer checking my image, or a woman touching my body, I choose the computer. I prefer people not touching my body like that! I think these people are moaning, since they already have the choice to say yes or no. Why make it a fatwa? Islam was formed as an open religion, that people by themselves could practice, without having to speak out a rule for every little thing. It always left room for people to make up their own minds.... and now... a fatwa on a body scanner, and a fatwa that needs a high level of critique in my opinion... it´s silly!
Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say
Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.
The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.
“It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”
Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough?
What a load of bs... Someone has to bring these Islamist crackheads to line. I am afraid with the way things are going now, these people will alienate themselves and agitate others more and more. When it all comes cracking down, the progressive and humanitarian Muslims, which I think are the only real Muslims anyway, will also be a target.
A court in drought-plagued Malawi has jailed a man accused of casting a spell that blocked rain from falling on his neighbour´s field, police say.
The court sentenced Chikumbeni Mwanatheu, 35, to two months in prison with hard labour after he admitted a charge of witchcraft, police spokesman Augustus Nkhwazi said.
Mwanatheu had pleaded guilty to a charge of "conduct likely to cause a breach of peace" after he boasted that he had prevented rain from falling on his neighbour´s field, the spokesman said.
Some parents shouldn´t have had kids! (And yes, I would protest as hard as it weren´t the Koran but another holy book but as the talk show host proudly announces: ´only Muslim children can do this.´
Well you may not mind, but I certainly mind. When is enough enough? The fact of the matter is they do expose people to radiation, expose the naked body and with indentations from invisible garments.........
If the intellegence had been used, many in the 911 group would have been caught, and the crotch bomber would not have even been on an airplane.
I strongly object to this thing....then have we even looked at who would get the contract$$$$ to provide them to airports?.............and they are not really that accurate anyway.
"Then there´s the awkward bit:While these things do certainly reveal your weapons...they also reveal your body. In detail. Down to the furry bits. And, given that they´re going to have to be human-operated (with some computer assistance, for sure, but still man-in-the-loop) like the baggage machines, that means you´re effectively going to be taking your clothes off for a TSA guy/gal (and how long before there´s a law suit about there being no TSA girls on duty to scan women for a particular flight?) Yup--that´s a stranger, a government employee. And one who´s almost certainly empowered to arrange for you to be thrown in jail if you object or are, in these stupidly super-sensitive times, deemed as being "uncooperative.""
Quoting barba_mama
They are moaning. The body scan is first checked by a computer. Only when the computer notices something that is out of the ordinary, a human is called to check the person. If it´s a woman who´s scanned, a woman will check her. If it´s a man who´s scanned, a man will check him.
In Islam it is not "forbidden" or something for a professional to see you naked. How else can you be checked by your doctor? And the scans don´t look like you are literally standing their naked. It´s not like porn or something. The image is strange looking, without colour.
Anyway, if I had to choose between a computer checking my image, or a woman touching my body, I choose the computer. I prefer people not touching my body like that! I think these people are moaning, since they already have the choice to say yes or no. Why make it a fatwa? Islam was formed as an open religion, that people by themselves could practice, without having to speak out a rule for every little thing. It always left room for people to make up their own minds.... and now... a fatwa on a body scanner, and a fatwa that needs a high level of critique in my opinion... it´s silly!
I certainly mind as well, radiation and such invasion of privacy! Not only I´m sure there are better short term ways to deal with such situations, but also simply pull out of the rest of the world, stop killing people, use the military budget for healthcare and education, and there won´t be any terrorism to ´fight´.
I also mind body scanners, not so much of a bother for me but I´d hate my child to be scanned like this. We all know that it´s usually people that account for abuse so how soon before naked body scans will be uploaded ont he internet? It makes my blood boil to think how risky it may be if the database gets in the hands of some lunatic...
Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?
For one, it is rare any legitimate doctor would have to, or request t, see one´s naked body. Doctors look at specific areas of a body, not the whole naked body at once.
For two, one chooses to see a doctor and has some choice in what doctor they will see.
For three, there is a legal guarantee of privacy in seeing a doctor.
For four, one has the legal right to refuse treatment, if they so desire.
It is clearly a violation of one´s right to privacy.
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Well, yersu, for one thing, doctors do not take your nude pictures, let alone store them in a database a huge number of other doctors have access to...
do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?but still their problem not mine...
do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?but still their problem not mine...
you´re free to go ahead and get yourself x-rayed as much as you want.
do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?but still their problem not mine...
I´ve no problem being seen naked (no, i won´t post pictures ). But like I said, I don´t want my son to be seen naked and risk having his photo uploaded on a paedophil´s website. Also, it would stir my suspictions whether or not to get scanned if I were pregnant...
my solution is to create two-way tvs - you see them and they see you and monitor all your activity. an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.
So you think this is not the violation of privacy, according to some documentaries future slaves will be created by this method, you can be volunteer as a test subject for this ...
Quoting catwoman
an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.
my solution is to create two-way tvs - you see them and they see you and monitor all your activity. an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.
on a serious note, how that tv is supposed to work? how that tv would scan your hidden weapon or anything else? and why would i want to see what airport security does or doesnt? if i can monitor security, then they are not security anymore. those who monitor cant monitor all your activity.
Thanks for your opinions but I still don´t think there is any violation of privacy here. I am sure there already is a term for what I am going to say but I don´t know it: I believe it can not be considered a violation of privacy as long as the observer does not have any connection or specific interest in the observee. No one would be disturbed about this whole scanning issue if it was completely executed by a computer, because the observer, in this case the computer, would not be concerned about you. But obviously; image recognition software isn´t that mature as of now, thus there is need for human assistance. So the securtiy guard looks at the picture before his eyes, not really different than what the computer does, and tries to recognize shapes in it. To the observer it isn´t a naked body, it´s a mathematical entity, a bunch of pixels which need to be identified.
Let a program which fills a picture with random pixels run for an infinite amount of time; and some of its output will be your naked photos, of all sorts, some even naughtier than you can ever imagine. There will even be one that shows you riding a donkey on the top of Eiffel tower. It´s simply data.
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What a load of bs... Someone has to bring these Islamist crackheads to line. I am afraid with the way things are going now, these people will alienate themselves and agitate others more and more. When it all comes cracking down, the progressive and humanitarian Muslims, which I think are the only real Muslims anyway, will also be a target.
I wonder if I could get away with saying this...exactely my thoughts!
Airport body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslims say
Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa” – a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.
The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.
“It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,” reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.”
Is this group right or are the moaning? Body scans - not my favourite idea as well - are invented and placed because of increasing terrorism. Should we accept them then, should we stop travelling or is the alternative of a (thorough!) search enough?
I think that many countries will still prefer the full body search - this will only show up where someone has got something a bit unusual in his or her pants or eaten a rather odd lunch Do you think this could be a way to cure obesity???
Oh and I think they are moaning .......... again! They are not in use yet (I don´t think!)
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I am wondering why politicians are even commenting publically about a private business´s decision to serve halal food. It is not like they are saying that non-muslims are not welcome. Is it a hardship not to get bacon on your burger? Seems like much ado about nothing!
I am wondering why politicians are even commenting publically about a private business´s decision to serve halal food. It is not like they are saying that non-muslims are not welcome. Is it a hardship not to get bacon on your burger? Seems like much ado about nothing!
I don´t think the halal menu is a big deal, and most French people don´t give a hoot either. It´s only in 8 of the 350 restaurants. Only the extreme right-winged (aka RACIST) politicians seem to complaint about it. So, there isn´t much ado about it! No customers complained. I don´t get angry when a menu only offers halal, and I don´t get angry when a menu only offers fish or only vegetarian either If I want a piece of pork I´ll just go somewhere else, and most normal French people are the same, I think.
What´s the deal with the Dutch gov´t collapsing today????
No idea. I heard it on the radio a couple of hours ago. They were arguing about soldiers in Afghanistan, should ´we´ stay or not. Now we have to wait, will this administration continue as a minority in parliament or do we get new elections?
Ugh... AGAIN?! This is the 4th (!!!!) government colapsing under this president... I´m too young to be voting for the 4th time... I´m in my mid twenties!
I´m so not looking forward to getting into the whole election thing again, trying to figure out who to vote for now. Can´t I just cast one anti-vote instead? (Anti-right winged a-hole Wilders vote ofcourse )
Ugh... AGAIN?! This is the 4th (!!!!) government colapsing under this president... I´m too young to be voting for the 4th time... I´m in my mid twenties!
I´m so not looking forward to getting into the whole election thing again, trying to figure out who to vote for now. Can´t I just cast one anti-vote instead? (Anti-right winged a-hole Wilders vote ofcourse )
And rumours go that the next administration will be Bakellende V......
Egypt has a 70% literacy rate, and Saudi Arabia 80%!
interesting,what source was the poll?and what was the basis?the number of school leavers?graduates?illitarate/literate compared to the total number of population?
interesting,what source was the poll?and what was the basis?the number of school leavers?graduates?illitarate/literate compared to the total number of population?
Thank you,I will check the document.Just wondering what % is in other countries.
I´m very sure the ´facts´ in that file are not correct. I know from earlier years they say that the literacy rate in my country is 99%. But...... how about the 1.5 million illiterates on a population of around 16.4 million?
I´m very sure the ´facts´ in that file are not correct. I know from earlier years they say that the literacy rate in my country is 99%. But...... how about the 1.5 million illiterates on a population of around 16.4 million?
who is illiterate in Holland Trudy? is it immigrants from some countries? where did you get the 1.5 million number from? just curious.
who is illiterate in Holland Trudy? is it immigrants from some countries? where did you get the 1.5 million number from? just curious.
The numbers were published a few years ago (in 2006 I think) by a special committee - president of it is Princess Laurentine. About 0.5 million are immigrants, the other million are people born in my country. They are sometimes what we call ´functional literate´ meaning they can write their names and a few common, often used words but they are not able to read the timetable of a bus, the advertisements in the supermarket, the information leaflet of medication let alone a newspaper. They can´t fill in forms or write a letter. In my classes are quite a few illiterate immigrants and there have also natives applied for courses.
The numbers were published a few years ago (in 2006 I think) by a special committee - president of it is Princess Laurentine. About 0.5 million are immigrants, the other million are people born in my country. They are sometimes what we call ´functional literate´ meaning they can write their names and a few common, often used words but they are not able to read the timetable of a bus, the advertisements in the supermarket, the information leaflet of medication let alone a newspaper. They can´t fill in forms or write a letter. In my classes are quite a few illiterate immigrants and there have also natives applied for courses.
Yes, they did, at least most of them. Several (stupid) reasons they are still illiterate: bad teachers (the ignoring type because a child is difficult to handle), often ill and not in class, parents working at a circus or fair so they change schools a lot and some indeed ditched classes (and apparently no-one cared).
Yes, they did, at least most of them. Several (stupid) reasons they are still illiterate: bad teachers (the ignoring type because a child is difficult to handle), often ill and not in class, parents working at a circus or fair so they change schools a lot and some indeed ditched classes (and apparently no-one cared).
Often they are also from a generation where people weren´t constantly watching for learning disabilities. When I child is a bit slow in class now, we don´t call them stupid, but we do a dyslexia test, for example.... but already 20 years ago this was different.
Two comments: - (1) I thought the 60s was the era of free love and experimentation and (2) that transvestite hanging out the washing is wearing a really bad wig.
Link is here - click on the pic to enlarge it (bet you´re all excited now! ) (oops no - I enlarged it already! )
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Two comments: - (1) I thought the 60s was the era of free love and experimentation and (2) that transvestite hanging out the washing is wearing a really bad wig.
whatever happened to "lie still and think aout the Queen?"
Another 12 people died in Russia in another suicidal attack today. It´s sick how bloody suicide bombers fight for their cause killing people who have little or nothing to do with the decision making process. Well, I guess anybody who believes Russia will give up on Tschetschnia just because a few wackos blew themselves up is an idiot...
namely need me? I would give you more than private massages, lemon. Just marry me?...
I would marry you, paglio, right away, dear friend, but Im married.
And I have children. And Im not beautiful. And I eat a lot. Just finished a pack of pickled chilli peppers staffed with cheese (a la turkish-greek). yummmie.
I would marry you, paglio, right away, dear friend, but Im married.
And I have children. And Im not beautiful. And I eat a lot. Just finished a pack of pickled chilli peppers staffed with cheese (a la turkish-greek). yummmie.
No, catwoman! She misses lacks the most important feature, or characteristic (if you like), which is that she is not feminist like you! The question arises immediately: why then... And the answer is: because, once any woman marries me, she would immediately, automatically, inevitably, naturally and willingly turn a feminist! And then endless discussions, talks, chats about never-ending male-female inequality...
Found it tempting? Then divorce him and marry me instead! Since I am not rich, handsome and whatsoever, I can promise you nothing but such endless-discussions? Interested? Then divorce him, take me, instead!
Lebanese TV host Ali Hussain Sibat faces execution in Saudi Arabia for sorcery
A Lebanese television host who was arrested during a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia and sentenced to death as a sorcerer for making predictions on his TV show could be executed any day, his lawyer and rights groups said yesterday. The sentence — roughly equivalent to Derren Brown being condemned to death for predicting the National Lottery on Channel 4 — has provoked outrage among human rights groups, who say that the death penalty for witchcraft in the kingdom is not unusual.
Ali Hussain Sibat, 46, a father of five, was arrested in May 2008 by Saudi Arabia’s religious police, the Mutaween, while on a pilgrimage to the country that boasts the holiest shrines in Islam. He was sentenced in November last year in a secret court session in Medina in which he was given no legal counsel. Amnesty International said that the sentence had apparently been handed down because he “gave advice and predictions about the future” on Lebanese television.
Mr Sibat used to make his predictions and give out advice to audience members while hosting a popular call-in show, Sheherazade, which aired on satellite TV across the Middle East. His lawyer, May el-Khansa, said that the entertainer’s legal appeal was rejected but that under Saudi law he could still be pardoned by the governor of the province in which he was judged. Amnesty has appealed to King Abdullah II, the Saudi ruler, as well as Lebanese authorities to push for the ruling to be overturned.
A Greek man is suing a dairy in Sweden for 50 million kronor ($6.9m; £4.5m) for using his image on pots of Turkish-style yoghurt, Swedish media report.
The man only found out his moustachioed face featured on the containers of Turkisk Yoghurt made by Lindahls when a friend living in Stockholm told him.
Athanasios Varzanakos told Swedish Radio his friend "was annoyed and asked how it was possible" when informed.
I read the piece about the anti-rape condom, and have mixed feelings about it.
Ofcourse it´s a relief to not have to worry about AIDS once you´ve gone through such a horrible experience, and to be able to catch the bad guy. Any guy who rapes a girl deserves such a device attached to his dingdong. However... does this mean that a woman has to prepare herself for being raped every day? Insert that device inside her, every time she leaves the house? Have we come this far, that a woman has to place devices into her vagina, just to have some sort of protection against AIDS and a raper being unpunished? Because it will not protect her from the guy attacking her, ripping her clothes off, and entering her body. That such a device is needed, is a low point for humanity
In modern society, rape is a problem so is murder or theft. A civilized person is the one who can control his/her feelings so as not to resort to illegal avenues. Generally speaking, justice is meant for protecting the weak against the strong. Rapists therefore are punished when caught.
You probably trust your male friends. There are millions like you. Majority of males would stay away from involuntary sex. As far as I have observed, a great deal of them detest paid sex too. That means, rapists constitute just a tiny bit of society. Nonetheless, the damage this tiny bit does to society is so grave.
Africa is another story. We must ask ourlselves, to what extent we can help the starving folks out there. Truth be told, we are not moving a finger. We let them go through the worst kind of nighmares including hunger and sexual abuses.
Some considerate guys in the civilized part of the world would like to make sure that at least raped women are not infected just because of being raped. After all, people have different priorities. Is it a wrong choice? I can´t tell....
In modern society, rape is a problem so is murder or theft. A civilized person is the one who can control his/her feelings so as not to resort to illegal avenues. Generally speaking, justice is meant for protecting the weak against the strong. Rapists therefore are punished when caught.
You probably trust your male friends. There are millions like you. Majority of males would stay away from involuntary sex. As far as I have observed, a great deal of them detest paid sex too. That means, rapists constitute just a tiny bit of society. Nonetheless, the damage this tiny bit does to society is so grave.
Africa is another story. We must ask ourlselves, to what extent we can help the starving folks out there. Truth be told, we are not moving a finger. We let them go through the worst kind of nighmares including hunger and sexual abuses.
Some considerate guys in the civilized part of the world would like to make sure that at least raped women are not infected just because of being raped. After all, people have different priorities. Is it a wrong choice? I can´t tell....
I agree with Vineyards.. Of course you want there to be mechanisms that would stop sick men from violating women, but if that can´t be done, let´s at least try to protect the women from AIDS!!
Kyrgyz people got rid one of the US puppet and a great thief whos ruling the country with a mentality of tradesman, colorful revolts seems collapsing one by one. But unfortunately the ones who is in the power now, was in the same direction with Bakiyev before. I hope they can find a leader who is thinking the people of Kyrgyz not US or Russia.
I heard that Kyrgyz people will kick in the butt of the feto´s organizations in Kyrgyzstan, then i will really admire of them...
The brutality of Turkish?? police caught my eye, the interesting thing is; polices who had beaten Kurdish protesters in Hakkari, suspended immediately, but the ones who had beaten Turkish students who were protesting YÖK & university exams, are still on duty. Till now nothing happened to those...
Kyrgyz people got rid one of the US puppet and a great thief whos ruling the country with a mentality of tradesman, colorful revolts seems collapsing one by one. But unfortunately the ones who is in the power now, was in the same direction with Bakiyev before. I hope they can find a leader who is thinking the people of Kyrgyz not US or Russia.
I heard that Kyrgyz people will kick in the butt of the feto´s organizations in Kyrgyzstan, then i will really admire of them...
Kyrgyz people got rid one of the US puppet and a great thief whos ruling the country with a mentality of tradesman, colorful revolts seems collapsing one by one. But unfortunately the ones who is in the power now, was in the same direction with Bakiyev before. I hope they can find a leader who is thinking the people of Kyrgyz not US or Russia.
I heard that Kyrgyz people will kick in the butt of the feto´s organizations in Kyrgyzstan, then i will really admire of them...
I admire them anyway. KG is one of the poorest post soviet countries. They depend on US´ support and Russia´s oil.
I thought you know what i mean, those are the ones who call themselves as Turkish but still cannot apprehend the seriousness of their motherland´s and coming generations´ situation.
I thought you know what i mean, those are the ones who call themselves as Turkish but still cannot apprehend the seriousness of their motherland´s and coming generations´ situation.
I was wondering who you consider ´sleeping Turks´. I think we can agree that calling oneself Turkish does not guarantee the same understanding of the "seriousness of the homeland´s situation". So what do you think is this seriousness about and what should these people do in your opinion?
I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...
Quoting catwoman
I was wondering who you consider ´sleeping Turks´. I think we can agree that calling oneself Turkish does not guarantee the same understanding of the "seriousness of the homeland´s situation". So what do you think is this seriousness about and what should these people do in your opinion?
I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...
That reminds me of the local elections in the town of my mother-in-law. Although she can hardly read she did vote for the guy who became mayor. There were some problems in town regarding electricity bills. The energy costs were going through the roof. During the campaign the soon-to-be-mayor said that people should not pay the electricity bill, because the electric company was corrupt, and that if they voted for him, he would fix it all. Unfortunatly, people did this... no bills paid for several months, and a vast majority of the votes went to this guy with his promises. Ofcourse, nothing happend regarding the electricity bills, nobody can keep a promise like that... "I will pay all your bills" ...yeah right. Anyway, now a lot of people are having troubles paying back the months of bills in one time. And the mayor? He´s sitting in that big office with a smile on his face. Mission accomplished.
you are an idealist or even a utopist, that is the problem. there will never be a perfect turkey.
Quoting armegon
I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...
I considered Turkish people whose mind was numbed by the one who is using religion for their own good, the Turkish people who are selling their votes for a piece of goods, the Turkish people who think their own good in the first place instead of society and their future, the Turkish people who was blinded bypropogand via subcons of imperialists, the Turkish people who forgot the meaning of independence, and who forgot how their ancestors founded this republic. These are the things that i observed. I hope it is clear now ...
offf... you´re not falling into my trap.. ok, it´s clear now!!
volcanic eruptions in iceland. and I wanted to live in that country once. a specific country which started off the crisis chain. now this tiny frozen country is able to hold off all the flights of most eauropean countries.
But CW, you still have not explained what kind of trap you planned for me, i mean what kind of answer you were expecting from me to fall into your trap...
Quoting catwoman
You are so vague and everybody would agree with you, and I can´t point out that you are wrong!! hahah
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But CW, you still have not explained what kind of trap you planned for me, i mean what kind of answer you were expecting from me to fall into your trap...
But would it be smart of me to tell you this..? We love contrasts and drama.. so let´s keep it coming.
Why do they not go to the state where they got married, is it forbidden by law to change the location?
No, it´s not forbidden to change locations, but it´s a pain to fly to a far away state to get the divorce. I just can´t fathom what is it that these people did that hurts others so much! Long live intolerance!!
No, it´s not forbidden to change locations, but it´s a pain to fly to a far away state to get the divorce. I just can´t fathom what is it that these people did that hurts others so much! Long live intolerance!!
I dont think it hurts. It has nothing to do with feelings or a revenge. They simply follow the law - the law of God. They do not tolerate that goes against the law.
I dont think it hurts. It has nothing to do with feelings or a revenge. They simply follow the law - the law of God. They do not tolerate that goes against the law.
That is correct, just like Taliban is also following the law of their God and executes women for what God told them to do this. Human rights have no meaning.
That is correct, just like Taliban is also following the law of their God and executes women for what God told them to do this. Human rights have no meaning.
how bizzare for you to compare the execution of women to the blatant issues of bored people!
I dont think it hurts. It has nothing to do with feelings or a revenge. They simply follow the law - the law of God. They do not tolerate that goes against the law.
It´s not the place of the state to enforce any religious law on people. What if you are not a Christian? Why does the government force people to follow this Christian law of not marrying the person you love.
I agree with the Taliban comment. It´s a more extreme example of people forcing their own believes on others. Your religion is your business, it´s personal. It´s not a person place to force others to believe the same things and follow the same religious rules.
It´s not the place of the state to enforce any religious law on people. What if you are not a Christian? Why does the government force people to follow this Christian law of not marrying the person you love.
I agree with the Taliban comment. It´s a more extreme example of people forcing their own believes on others. Your religion is your business, it´s personal. It´s not a person place to force others to believe the same things and follow the same religious rules.
It´s not the place of the state to enforce any religious law on people. What if you are not a Christian? Why does the government force people to follow this Christian law of not marrying the person you love.
I agree with the Taliban comment. It´s a more extreme example of people forcing their own believes on others. Your religion is your business, it´s personal. It´s not a person place to force others to believe the same things and follow the same religious rules.
I understand where you come from. totally acceptable and logic. I spoke the same when I was an atheist.
You have to take one thing under consideration. Those laws you speak of were made by christains for christians and existed for centuries. those were formulated on the basis of 10 commandments as well as roman civil codex.
the majority of texas are christians, they wish it to be it so. nobody forces you to live texas as well as nobody forces you to live in afghanistan.
you dont tolerate the choice of texans so they dont tolerate your choice.
an example of liberal laws being practiced and in force is the western europe, where there are no morals. a complete anarchy. teenagers have sex from the age of 10-11 because there are no more moral indications that would stop them. then they have children, then gov gives them money to continue to do so. all of them ( i mean a vast majority) are from divorced families. with this freedom of choices you have irresponsible parents and disrespectful children.
barba, you have it, you are doing it. enjoy your freedom, have this generation of lazy drunk drag-addict irresponsible people, the product of emanthipated EU.
not long ago I was on your side, on the side of liberalism, freedom and democracy. but today I have seen it enough. it is going from bad to worse. it is downgrading.
I dreamt of democracy I dreamt of freedom. It doesnt work. The more I watch the more I am convinced there are no morals no boundaries in the EU.
I think it is a mistake to believe that only religion can give you moral judgement. I am inclined to believe that most people will behave morally if they are in an environment that rewards good decisions. The problem (in my opinion of course, which is only supported by my experience and observations) is that governments reward bad behavior and do not give many breaks to people who work hard and excel. In our society, we face many challenges and it seems that our government, instead of rising up to meet challenge...lowers the standard so that everyone meets it. There is very little incentive to excel if all you aspire to is mediocrity and just "getting by." Anyway, I agree that there is so much immorality in the world, but I don´t feel at all that it is based on a lack of religion. I know plenty of atheists and agnostics that have a much greater sence of social awareness and justice than many of my religious friends.
I think it is a mistake to believe that only religion can give you moral judgement. I am inclined to believe that most people will behave morally if they are in an environment that rewards good decisions. The problem (in my opinion of course, which is only supported by my experience and observations) is that governments reward bad behavior and do not give many breaks to people who work hard and excel. In our society, we face many challenges and it seems that our government, instead of rising up to meet challenge...lowers the standard so that everyone meets it. There is very little incentive to excel if all you aspire to is mediocrity and just "getting by." Anyway, I agree that there is so much immorality in the world, but I don´t feel at all that it is based on a lack of religion. I know plenty of atheists and agnostics that have a much greater sence of social awareness and justice than many of my religious friends.
but you now have closed your own cirlce. the point is that EU´s laws doesnt contain any religion. it is so called liberal universal and multi-cultural.and it has been so for decades.
the question is what has it produced? is it any positive?
I am not calling on to introduce religious laws. I am more concerned about boundaries. where shall it go? where shall we stop?
you are spot on when you say the gov rewards bad deeds. it indeed does because gov has stripped itself off from core of morality. suddenly we are all good and equal. e.g. at factories if you are a bully the managers treat you better, they concern about your psycholigal health and jump around you in case you want to sue them, but if you are a good worker you get no reward, no treat but more and more work and more pressure. at schools if you are a trouble, they will take you to a different room and play with you, reward you with many things.
these kinds of actions make people think its ok to be a bully because you face no punishment.
I think it is a mistake to believe that only religion can give you moral judgement. I am inclined to believe that most people will behave morally if they are in an environment that rewards good decisions. The problem (in my opinion of course, which is only supported by my experience and observations) is that governments reward bad behavior and do not give many breaks to people who work hard and excel. In our society, we face many challenges and it seems that our government, instead of rising up to meet challenge...lowers the standard so that everyone meets it. There is very little incentive to excel if all you aspire to is mediocrity and just "getting by." Anyway, I agree that there is so much immorality in the world, but I don´t feel at all that it is based on a lack of religion. I know plenty of atheists and agnostics that have a much greater sence of social awareness and justice than many of my religious friends.
This is such a good observation. One has to look for complicated questions and answers, not black and white. I can say from my own experience that one of the reasons why children in US schhols don´t try as hard as they do in Poland is that n the US people can have fairly good lives wthout great education (that is changing I think), whereas in Poland if one doesn´t get great education, the options are limited. In Poland also, one doesn´t get many second chances either, while in the US it´s easier to go back to school. So people in Poland know that they have to work very hard and that they will face a lot of competition.
Also, the society is more authoritative, where kids are sometimes forced to do things.
Overall, I think that we have to solve our problems in the west without sacrificing our freedom and democracy, because despite all the problems with education that we have in the US, children here are more confident, more assertive, more independent thinking, even if they know less about the world. And these are skills with which we can solve our problems.
Isn´t Texas in the U.S.? And isn´t the U.S. a secular country? As far as I know, people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, and NOT being a Christian is part of this freedom. One of the principal ideas of creating the U.S. was to have the freedom to practice a religion as one pleased.
Isn´t Texas in the U.S.? And isn´t the U.S. a secular country? As far as I know, people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, and NOT being a Christian is part of this freedom. One of the principal ideas of creating the U.S. was to have the freedom to practice a religion as one pleased.
Brilliant Barba! You get an "A" for paying attention in class today!
An Islamic group based in New York said that a recent episode of “South Park,” the satirical animated series, insulted the Prophet Muhammad.
“We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid, and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show. This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them.”
Isn´t Texas in the U.S.? And isn´t the U.S. a secular country? As far as I know, people in the U.S. have freedom of religion, and NOT being a Christian is part of this freedom. One of the principal ideas of creating the U.S. was to have the freedom to practice a religion as one pleased.
and then why christians cant practice or express their rights? if it is a free country why at schools they are not allowed to teach creationism? why if we live in the free western society our children must be mocked for saying that God created the world both by children and teachers? why darwinism is the only option to be taught at schools? so where is your so called freedom? it is a freedom when it fits you, right?
btw, who said US is a secular society? was its foundation really secular? Since when being a non secular is such a problem?
US was established exactly on christian principals. fundamentalist christians such as puritans, anabaptists fled from persecutions in europe. so what are you talking about? it gradually turned secular centuries later.
I think the concept of what "religious freedom" is in the US has changed drastically and will continue to change. When settlers first came here they just wanted freedom to practice "their" religion...not all religions. The natives where considered heathons and trying to convert them was an important issue. The first settlers didn´t say..."oh, look at those people worshiping the great spirit, how nice!" Need I remind you that women who had any knowledge of herbal remedies or acted strangely where put on trial as witches...many executed. If the "New World" was truely a bastion of religious freedom from its inception...don´t you think that worshiping satan (or even the idea of it) would fall into the catgory of religious freedom? When my Italian and Irish relatives came to the US in search of a better life, they were shunned because they were Catholics and not Protestant (which the US was predominately prior to the last 1800s or so). Anyway, I digress....freedom is a changing concept and is only relevant to the current cultural norms. Currently, being religious means that you are backward and that there must be something terribly wrong with you if you believe in anything other than the cultural norm. Just remember, there will come a time when this thinking will be unfashionable as well.
there must be something terribly wrong with you if you believe in anything other than the cultural norm. Just remember, there will come a time when this thinking will be unfashionable as well.
That is of course very true, but to be fair, it is less so in the US then anywhere else in the world. All over the world, people pay high price to be allowed even a small difference then the cultural norm..
I never got the big deal behind gay marriage. Just because you give your neighbor the choice, it´s not like YOU have to get married to somebody of the same sex. If two consenting adults feel like they want to marry eachother, then what is the big deal?
I never got the big deal behind gay marriage. Just because you give your neighbor the choice, it´s not like YOU have to get married to somebody of the same sex. If two consenting adults feel like they want to marry eachother, then what is the big deal?
It´s really not a big deal. It is just a political tool used to insence the public to a cause that they know will distract everyone from what the real issues are....like the fact that unemployment is still high, the deficit is in the trillions, ect... Politicians use these hot button topics to stir the viseral reactions of the ignorant masses.
I think there are several issues that need to go away:
1. Abortion: If you don´t want one, don´t get one
2. Gay marriage: nobody is forcing anyone to marry someone from the same sex - Get over it
3. Gun control: Again...if you don´t want one, don´t get one
Peoples are social entities thats why they built up nations thus they are affected from eachother, i think thats the deal...
Quoting barba_mama
I never got the big deal behind gay marriage. Just because you give your neighbor the choice, it´s not like YOU have to get married to somebody of the same sex. If two consenting adults feel like they want to marry eachother, then what is the big deal?
Peoples are social entities thats why they built up nations thus they are affected from eachother, i think thats the deal...
Perhaps, but two men (or women) being in a monogamous relationship will not have a negative effect on you. It´s not contagious or anything (The homosexuality... ohw, if only monogamy was contagious, that would save so many heartbreaks )
Perhaps, but two men (or women) being in a monogamous relationship will not have a negative effect on you. It´s not contagious or anything (The homosexuality... ohw, if only monogamy was contagious, that would save so many heartbreaks )
It is VERY VERY contagious! it is so popular in europe esp UK to be a gay among teenagers (starting even earlier ages like 9 or 1. Suddenly every other boy in bigger cities want to be gay.
This is not as innocent as you think or I used to think.
Perhaps, but two men (or women) being in a monogamous relationship will not have a negative effect on you. It´s not contagious or anything (The homosexuality... ohw, if only monogamy was contagious, that would save so many heartbreaks )
It always affects people, its like your kids hang out with their friends who have bad habits, and you are worried about them...
Oh god... I must be gay! I grew up with my neighbours being a gay couple, named Rob and John. They were like a married couple even before this was legal in Holland.. Oh nooo! I talked to them like a thousand times! And what about the gay friends I have... oh.. crap... And I thought I was straight Well, I need to make a phonecall. Have to disappoint a nice guy, and explain that I have "caught the bug". No more straight-lovin´ for me!
By the way, I seriously hope that the "it IS contagious" remark is a joke... it is... right?
Oh god... I must be gay! I grew up with my neighbours being a gay couple, named Rob and John. They were like a married couple even before this was legal in Holland.. Oh nooo! I talked to them like a thousand times! And what about the gay friends I have... oh.. crap... And I thought I was straight Well, I need to make a phonecall. Have to disappoint a nice guy, and explain that I have "caught the bug". No more straight-lovin´ for me!
By the way, I seriously hope that the "it IS contagious" remark is a joke... it is... right?
Barba, give me better and thought through answers.
"caught the bug" remark is empty, doesnt contain anything valuable.
I was serious. and I gave you the explanation to it.
Homosexuality is not something you can "catch" or you would have seen that all children who´s parents turn out to be gay are gay too, and everybody who has a gay friend must be gay too, and ESPECIALLY everybody who ever set foot in a gay club must be gay.
That you seem to have a problem with people being gay, does not mean that it has always been viewed as a problem and that it is a problem. Being gay has not always been an issue. In ancient Greece for example, people were not boxed according to their romantic preferences like they are today. Being gay was an accepted part of life. According to the "contagious" theory, there would be no people left in the world, since at one point everybody would only have sex with same sex partners and no children would be born.
The fact that in certain countries more young people are coming out of the closet, doesn´t mean that more people are becoming gay. It means that more people are open about it. Research has shown, that in countries were being openly gay has been accepted for a longer time have shown stable numbers of gay people. The fact that some countries have no gay people, is not because there ARE no gay people, but because being gay will end in you being discriminated, hurt, or even killed. There are gay people there, but they´re too afraid to admit it.
Is this enough for you? Because I´m really hoping that you´re just pretending to be a bigot to start conversations and discussions, and that you don´t believe the things that you say here.
Homosexuality is not something you can "catch" or you would have seen that all children who´s parents turn out to be gay are gay too, and everybody who has a gay friend must be gay too, and ESPECIALLY everybody who ever set foot in a gay club must be gay.
That you seem to have a problem with people being gay, does not mean that it has always been viewed as a problem and that it is a problem. Being gay has not always been an issue. In ancient Greece for example, people were not boxed according to their romantic preferences like they are today. Being gay was an accepted part of life. According to the "contagious" theory, there would be no people left in the world, since at one point everybody would only have sex with same sex partners and no children would be born.
The fact that in certain countries more young people are coming out of the closet, doesn´t mean that more people are becoming gay. It means that more people are open about it. Research has shown, that in countries were being openly gay has been accepted for a longer time have shown stable numbers of gay people. The fact that some countries have no gay people, is not because there ARE no gay people, but because being gay will end in you being discriminated, hurt, or even killed. There are gay people there, but they´re too afraid to admit it.
Is this enough for you? Because I´m really hoping that you´re just pretending to be a bigot to start conversations and discussions, and that you don´t believe the things that you say here.
This is not what I asked you to tell me. Why on earth you think that I know nothing about gays? I didnt come from another planet. I was here when all this started. I was watching, reading, listening. There were thousands of discussions. For years I didnt say anything, I didnt know what to say. I didnt jump into any conversation. Later I became pro-gayish and argued against fundamental christians (from where I come from). I hold this position until recently. Until I saw it suddenly became fashionable for teenagers to declare themselves as gay.
I strongly believe it is contagious not because of gays, but with the help of mass media.
I never claimed gays kill or hurt. what kind fantasy is that?
Barba, you got it wrong, you asked what is the big deal, i answered societies are disturbed by homosexuality mostly, it is unlogical to say people do not affected by this, every change in environment affects people. To say the truth im not an expert in this issue, i havent got homosexual friends like you, of course i have seen many of them, how they live, behave etc but dont know anyone personally. However i have witnessed many people & society complaining about homosexuality, they believe and fear that it has become a trend that would affect the society in moral way, thats why i used the simile of kids taking examples of their friends who have bad habits(maybe not a good one). Thats why maybe lemon also said that being gay is popular in UK, because teenagers who are not truly born gays somehow emulate the life of homosexuals and at least they want to try once which affects the society.
I just tried to bring out the views of many people, never said it is wrong or right. And i didnt say homosexuals have no morality. I have seen also people who think hmosexuality violates human rights by disrupting the integration of a society. That society is made up of families. Anyways i personally do not promote or condemn it. Just this.
And lastly instead of making sarcastic comments, you should consider that not not everyone need to think like you, freedom of thought, it does not mean those people want to kill all homosexuals.
Barba, you got it wrong, you asked what is the big deal, i answered societies are disturbed by homosexuality mostly, it is unlogical to say people do not affected by this, every change in environment affects people. To say the truth im not an expert in this issue, i havent got homosexual friends like you, of course i have seen many of them, how they live, behave etc but dont know anyone personally. However i have witnessed many people & society complaining about homosexuality, they believe and fear that it has become a trend that would affect the society in moral way, thats why i used the simile of kids taking examples of their friends who have bad habits(maybe not a good one). Thats why maybe lemon also said that being gay is popular in UK, because teenagers who are not truly born gays somehow emulate the life of homosexuals and at least they want to try once which affects the society.
I just tried to bring out the views of many people, never said it is wrong or right. And i didnt say homosexuals have no morality. I have seen also people who think hmosexuality violates human rights by disrupting the integration of a society. That society is made up of families. Anyways i personally do not promote or condemn it. Just this.
And lastly instead of making sarcastic comments, you should consider that not not everyone need to think like you, freedom of thought, it does not mean those people want to kill all homosexuals.
exactly! those boys dont know their identity! they cant decide if they are gays or straight. it is shocking to see so many boys with heavy make-ups who behave like girls. they are bombarded by mass media. they are taught thats its ok to be this and that, you can tattoo all over your body, you can damage your earlobes, you can cut your scalps. today its popular to be a gay, mostly because people will notice you, secondly you do it out of rebellion to parents.
I mean how sad is this? you do whatever you want to do from the early years. you drink, you smoke, you take drugs (we have to thank Holland for pioneering), and no one will rebuke you. if anyone does it means they violate your freedom and individualism. haha what a misery!
every other family is broken. because we live in freedom, thus we carry zero responsibility. Our feelings are the most important thing in the world.
and this is all in the name of freedom, democracy and individualism!
What does wearing make up have to do with being gay? Most boys that I know who wear make up are very grumpy gothic/emo type kids. Damn, those kids depress me...
Let me tell you about the freedom of taking drugs. Turns out, making hasj legal does not increase the use of hasj. Shocking Holland is not pionering in taking drugs. Hasj is originally not from Holland, neither is coke, opium, etc.
I think it´s so easy to say that "families are broken" and all that kind of stuff. What proof do you have for this remark? My mother is from a much older generations. In her youth, normal people didn´t have tv or a phone. Only one person in the street had a tv, and only one person in her street had a phone. In those days, she was living in a lower class neighbourhood. On the corner of the street there were hostel-type buildings were Chinese sailors would stay. They would use opium all day and would be totally spaced out until it was time to set sail again. In the neighbourhood there were also hookers (which was normal for harbour areas). In the night, gangs would walk around. They would fight eachother with knives and big iron chains.
Because of the way the brain works, people get this "everything used to be better" view of the world. Well, guess what... there were always junkies, always gay people, always gay people who lied about being gay, there were always hookers (check Ephesus in Turkey for proof), there was always violence.
I don´t know about all of you, but I have a good family. I visit my grandparents every week (unless I´m in Turkey ) I have a good relationship with my brother, and speak to him almost every day, and I talk to my mom every day. I have a very close and supportive group of friends. I don´t drink, and I have never touched any kind of drugs in my life. I don´t sleep around with people. I grew up with gay people around me, but I´m not gay. If I was I would be open about it, since my family only wants me to be happy. And I´m DUTCH!
I don´t know about all of you, but I have a good family. I visit my grandparents every week (unless I´m in Turkey ) I have a good relationship with my brother, and speak to him almost every day, and I talk to my mom every day. I have a very close and supportive group of friends. I don´t drink, and I have never touched any kind of drugs in my life. I don´t sleep around with people. I grew up with gay people around me, but I´m not gay. If I was I would be open about it, since my family only wants me to be happy. And I´m DUTCH!
Quite possibly the most shocking post EVER on TC!!! YOU´RE DUTCH?????!!!
What does wearing make up have to do with being gay? Most boys that I know who wear make up are very grumpy gothic/emo type kids. Damn, those kids depress me...
Let me tell you about the freedom of taking drugs. Turns out, making hasj legal does not increase the use of hasj. Shocking Holland is not pionering in taking drugs. Hasj is originally not from Holland, neither is coke, opium, etc.
I think it´s so easy to say that "families are broken" and all that kind of stuff. What proof do you have for this remark? My mother is from a much older generations. In her youth, normal people didn´t have tv or a phone. Only one person in the street had a tv, and only one person in her street had a phone. In those days, she was living in a lower class neighbourhood. On the corner of the street there were hostel-type buildings were Chinese sailors would stay. They would use opium all day and would be totally spaced out until it was time to set sail again. In the neighbourhood there were also hookers (which was normal for harbour areas). In the night, gangs would walk around. They would fight eachother with knives and big iron chains.
Because of the way the brain works, people get this "everything used to be better" view of the world. Well, guess what... there were always junkies, always gay people, always gay people who lied about being gay, there were always hookers (check Ephesus in Turkey for proof), there was always violence.
I don´t know about all of you, but I have a good family. I visit my grandparents every week (unless I´m in Turkey ) I have a good relationship with my brother, and speak to him almost every day, and I talk to my mom every day. I have a very close and supportive group of friends. I don´t drink, and I have never touched any kind of drugs in my life. I don´t sleep around with people. I grew up with gay people around me, but I´m not gay. If I was I would be open about it, since my family only wants me to be happy. And I´m DUTCH!
As for make-ups I have mentioned in my previous post. Tired of repeating.
I find your comment about chinese sailors or about your wonderful personality irrevelant to the topic, at least to every other broken family.
I´m just saying, that people tend to think that today is horrible and yesterday was great. Whatever time we live in. My point was that drugs have always been around, and homosexuality has always been around. Putting eyeliner on your face doesn´t make you a girl, and neither does it make you gay. Even in ancient Egypt the men wore make-up, and the majority of them were not gay.
To say that people are "being gay" because it is popular, or because they want to piss off their parents is a very very hurtful and disrespectful comment. A lot of kids struggle with their sexuality, and it´s not because they think it´s "cool". It´s because they love somebody, in a way that doesn´t fit into the standard norm. Telling their parents, IF they ever come out of the closet, is a painful process. Parents lose the dream they have for their children of husband and wife with a bunch of kids. Parents can push the child away after it comes out about his or her sexuality. You think people do this for fun? Ha ha, my parents think I´m Satan´s child and they treat me as if I were dead... Yes, very cool, very popular. Sounds like fun, maybe I should become gay too.
A big fight between a Saudi woman and a Masri man caught my eye. Both hit & insulted to eachother. Masri man is sure in big trouble, because hitting a woman big crime, and woman will decide what will be the punishment, after then 100 percent man will be deported...
Sometimes the Dutch are really crazy (not me of course...  :
NL: Linda magazine promotes gigolos in its 69th issue
April 28, 2010 ·
To mark its 69th issue, Dutch women’s monthly mag Linda has decide to focus on “cheating”. The editor and TV celebrity Linda de Mol even appears on the cover looking cheeky (posing in bed with only her bra on) with her “call boy” standing in the background whose behind is exposed.
Linda magazine is usually sold for 5,50 euros in newsstands. One will barely save any euros by subscribing, it spares the trip to the kiosks mostly. However, as a Linda subscriber, you get attractive “premiums”. For instance, there’s a special promotion until may 17 where one can enlist in a sweepstake, whose winners will be set up on 25 dates with a gigolo, each guaranteed to last about 2 hours! According to the mag, this is at least worth 450 euros each date. If you’d rather not go on a date, then you can settle for a handbag.
Obvioulsy this promotion has infurated a lot of people, even in the Netherlands where prostitution is legal! The “Vakverk” prostitutes organization has been threatening to take Ms. De Mol to court, arguing that this makes her a pimp. Ms. De Mol, who recently separated from her husband, afer she caught him having an affair, seemed, however, quite pleased with the publicity her magazine is getting.
According to its publisher, Linda magazine currently circulates 159 579 copies a month, of which 50 000 through subscriptions.
On this day in 1993, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced that the World Wide Web would be free to the public, paving the way for the Internet revolution and changing the world as we know it.
Today is Queen’s Day in the Netherlands. Queen’s Day (Koninginnedag in Dutch) is a national holiday celebrating the Dutch monarchy. On Queen’s Day, the queen visits one or two towns, where she is received with celebrations in her honor. These celebrations often involve traditional Dutch dances and demonstrations of old crafts.
In Mexico, April 30 is Children’s Day. On “El Día Del Niño,” most kindergartens and elementary schools cancel regular classes and have big parties with piñatas and lots of candy.
Today is Walpurgisnacht (Walpurgis Night) in many parts of central and northern Europe. The festival is named after St. Walpurga, born in Wessex in 710. Historically, Walpurgisnacht is derived from Pagan spring customs. In Estonia, Walpurgisnacht is celebrated on May 1.
I have read that article today and it impressed me. That´s why i want to share it with you.
Its in Turkish and i am too lazy to translate it. I hope a hardworking friend does it.
tükeniş...
ölüm değil beni korkutan! bos bir yasamın ardından varacağım yer olması sıkıyor canımı. nedir ki? kırk yıllar, elli yıllar, billahi çok değil! hele hele çizilen bu yolda bize hiç gelir. ne beklersin yaşamdan çorbacı?! ne bekler yaşam senden? ikiniz de tüketirsiniz hoyratça zamanı, işte geride kalanlar sıkar biraz canımı.. yedi yaşında başlarsın okula, sayma ondan öncesini. sonra, yıllar yılı gider gelirsin, kara tahtalı değirmene, berrak zamanını öğütmek için, yirmi iki civarı alırken diplomanı, tüketivermişsindir üçte birlik zamanını...
diploma yetmez!! diyor topal şarapçı, iyi bir iş bul hele bakalım! askerliğini de yap birde, sonra evlen bakalım..
işte bir on yıl daha uçuveriyor ansızın. yaş oluveriyor otuzbeş! gerçekten yarısı mıdır yolun?! belki de yarısından da yakın geriye bakma sakın ey küheylan! kopuverir zincirleri yaşamın, bir iplik gibi ansızın.
"hele bir borçlarimızı ödeyelim, sonra daha iyi yaşarız. şimdilik biraz sabır" diyor karım nazife!
eee.. doğru da söylüyor hani...
hele bir başımızı sokacak yuva olsun da, gerisi kolay diyor.
eee.. bu da doğru hani... işte böyle yitiyor hep on seneler, eriyen buzlar misali.
karım, çocuklarım, kooperatif başkanım, yardımcım, tek tük arkadaşlarım... ve... tv´deki haber spikeri! bu kadar çevremdekiler. bunlara bakıyor yıllardır gözlerim. işte bu yüzdendir ki, miyopsun! diyor doktorum. tak .´ne iki numara.
ellinci yaş günümü, kimse fark etmiyor bile. ufaklığın diploma töreni var. ne biçim alış veriş bu?! anlayamadım gitti! yapmak istediğim bir çok şey, özlem kapısında yitti...
hırs ile mutfağa, ne varsa atıştırmak için, sıcacık bir el tutuyor elimi
perhiz yapmalısın artık! diyor karım nazife.
eee.. doğru da söylüyor hani. kalan on yılımın birkaç yılı hastalıkla geçiyor. gerisi de torunların peşinde...
eee... "ulan hani yaşayacaktık!!" diye bağırıyorum.
nedir yaşamın kısır döngüsü anlayamadım gitti. elimdeki tek sermayem de bir gün gibi bitti.
iyi yaşadık, hoş yaşadık diyor karım nazife. patronların da pek severlerdi çok da çalışırdın hani. bak herşeyimiz var, büyüdü sayılır çocuklar da, daralacak ne derdin var? haydi neşelen artık.
eee... doğru da söylüyor hani. bir karı, birkaç çocuk, bir ev ve araba, işte yaşamın bilançosu...
hayır! hayır! korkuyorum ölümden!!
boşa geçen bir yaşamın ardından nasıl gidilir oraya?!
özgürce çizmeliydim yaşamımı zorda olsa, özgürce ulaşmalıydım sona, yalnızlıkla bile yşsansa.. kanaviçe gibi dokumalıydım, güzellikleri, gizemleri.
ter basıyor fırlıyorum yataktan.
dönüp durma diyor, karım nazife, yarı uykulu.
"sıkıca örtün de uyu"
eee... doğru da söylüyor hani.
tüketmek için bunca acele ettiğiniz takvim yapraklarına.. onca hızla çevirdiğiniz akreplere yelkovanlara.. içine gönüllü aldığınız o insafsız rutin çarkına.. şöyle bir uzaktan baktığınızda ne hissediyorsunuz? "ne kadarı benim hayatım," diye soruyor musunuz? ne kadarını başkaları yaşamış benim yerime.. ya da ben başkalarının?.
"aynadakinin ne kadari benim, ne kadarı oynadıklarım?.. sevgiyi koydum kum saatinin dolu dizgin akıp giden kumlarının her bir zerresine. çünkü bir tek sevgi var elimizde; bunca yıldan damıtılıp gelen... yine bir tek o kalacak, yaşanacak yıllarından geriye...
bir tek sevgi olacak bunca telaştan arta kalan...ötesi yalan...
Not only greece, so is Italy, Portugal, Spain and Ireland. Getting a job in Ireland these days is almost impossible, especially if you don´t live in Dublin or Cork One of the biggest enerpreneurs, who is mainly associated with the region I live in, is to lay off 900 people. Quite a number for a country with population of 4mln...
Not only greece, so is Italy, Portugal, Spain and Ireland. Getting a job in Ireland these days is almost impossible, especially if you don´t live in Dublin or Cork One of the biggest enerpreneurs, who is mainly associated with the region I live in, is to lay off 900 people. Quite a number for a country with population of 4mln...
My son would be insanely happy if he got a chance to fly on this Turkish airlines plane to his favourite place in the wold, Mahmutlar, Turkey! (well to Istanbul and then to Antalya and then by bus to Mahmutlar, but you know what I mean, lol) His two favourite things rolled into 1!.... Assuming we get to fly there this year that is, what with the ash cloud still harassing Ireland
Why couldnt Yugoslavia participate as seperate independent states?
It wouldn´t be the same, moreover, IT would be really sad Besides, I don´t think all former Yugoslavian states would accept to participate, since they didn´t participate equally in fight vs fascism either... Long and sad story...
(by the way I resigned as Admin about a month ago - although I signed in for the first time in ages today and noticed that my name is still showing as a moderator on the forums. I´m not - so please don´t ask me to delete anything!!)
(by the way I resigned as Admin about a month ago - although I signed in for the first time in ages today and noticed that my name is still showing as a moderator on the forums. I´m not - so please don´t ask me to delete anything!!)
WOW. thats news! interesting!
LIR, I wanna thank you for moderating and admining! Enjoy your retirement!
5 girls aged 15 got pregnant at the same time, it turns out, they were playing a game where they lie on the floor and boys well..let´s say lie on top of them changing partners every few minutes. Now the girls are pregnant (2 of them as 3 have already given birth)
5 girls aged 15 got pregnant at the same time, it turns out, they were playing a game where they lie on the floor and boys well..let´s say lie on top of them changing partners every few minutes. Now the girls are pregnant (2 of them as 3 have already given birth)
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whatever happened to good old-spin-the bottle?
O tempora, o mores!
/I´ll get my coat/
Sometimes it seems as though the world has gone mad! Did this happen in the school? Where were the teachers / parents / adult supervision?
Sometimes it seems as though the world has gone mad! Did this happen in the school? Where were the teachers / parents / adult supervision?
Lis calm down!!!do you really know what your kid is doing 24/7?
do you? and if not what kind of a parent,superviser,or a teacher u r?
such things happen and it is not possible to prevent them if brads do not want..the question is that these brads were not paying attention at pre-family classes or not sent to them since not obligatory here.
one of my students-17 years old got pregnant bcs her boy friend told her sex without condom is safe..trust me,i know what i am doing...well not counting her fertile days..
Lis - I don´t think it happened at school, probably at some kind of a party while parents were out. And it is shocking!
Ptaszek - sexual education was not a subject when I worked at school, is it on the curriculum now? I think lack of proper education leads to deviations. These days children have access to the Internet, which, consequently leads to perceive sex as porn (which it is not!). On the one hand, most Polish kids go to religion classes where they teach them that it´s a sin, a taboo and a thing people don´t talk about; on the other, the natural curiosity and too easy access to materials that shouldn´t be watched before certain preparation, confuses them.
(BTW, wasn´t the 8 year old you´re talking about lying about being raped by two ten year olds?)
That´s why I believe proper grounds of intimate relationships should be taught during classes not biased religion-wise.
Well, if there is one thing I do know about kids...if you make something a taboo, they will almost surely do it! I just think it is a shame that sex education is left to the schools. Of course it is better taught at school than from porn sites/magazines, etc...but it makes me wonder... WHAT ARE PARENTS DOING?
As most of us parents worry about other people doing things to our children, I think we forget that we must also save them from themselves.
Curry chef in court accused of killing swan for food
A curry chef appeared in court yesterday accused of killing a wild swan for food.
Mohammed Miah, 29, pounced on the bird and was later found with blood and feathers on his hands, and the swan in a bin bag nearby, Bedford magistrates heard.
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He said: ‘The case raises interesting legal points whether the swan belongs to anybody and whether it needs to belong to somebody to be stolen, and whether the Queen is the owner of the bird.
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The chairman of the bench, Michael Hine, granted Miah bail on condition that he does not go to the embankment in Bedford, unless to cross the river by one of three bridges in the town.
Curry chef in court accused of killing swan for food
A curry chef appeared in court yesterday accused of killing a wild swan for food.
Mohammed Miah, 29, pounced on the bird and was later found with blood and feathers on his hands, and the swan in a bin bag nearby, Bedford magistrates heard.
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He said: ‘The case raises interesting legal points whether the swan belongs to anybody and whether it needs to belong to somebody to be stolen, and whether the Queen is the owner of the bird.
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The chairman of the bench, Michael Hine, granted Miah bail on condition that he does not go to the embankment in Bedford, unless to cross the river by one of three bridges in the town.
So was he arrested because he killed a swan or because he stole a swan? or both? What a strange story.
Swans are protected birds in our country and should not be killed, if you do you pay the consequences. They are magnificent birds and so many are being killed these days because migrants think they can kill them and eat them, without knowing the law. They are known as the Queens birds because they belong to the crown.
So serve him right! Go kill pidgeons instead, there are thousands of them.
There are some historical quirks, one of which is that the Monarch owns all wild swans living in open water - of the species called ´mute´ swans. Other species of swans, and those owned by individuals are not owned by Her Majesty.
Swans are protected birds in our country and should not be killed, if you do you pay the consequences. They are magnificent birds and so many are being killed these days because migrants think they can kill them and eat them, without knowing the law. They are known as the Queens birds because they belong to the crown.
So serve him right! Go kill pidgeons instead, there are thousands of them.
There are some historical quirks, one of which is that the Monarch owns all wild swans living in open water - of the species called ´mute´ swans. Other species of swans, and those owned by individuals are not owned by Her Majesty.
Ok....thanks for the explanation. Aside from the fact that I can´t believe someone would kill a swan for food, I didn´t realize they were "property" of the Queen.
Ok....thanks for the explanation. Aside from the fact that I can´t believe someone would kill a swan for food, I didn´t realize they were "property" of the Queen.
If I remember correctly, Daily Mirror or a similar newspaper made a lot of fuss saying that Polish immigrants in the UK were killing and eating swans a while ago. That cracked me up, swans? I´ve never heard of anyone eating swans
If I remember correctly, Daily Mirror or a similar newspaper made a lot of fuss saying that Polish immigrants in the UK were killing and eating swans a while ago. That cracked me up, swans? I´ve never heard of anyone eating swans
Well
They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper, thyme and rosemary ..
They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper, thyme and rosemary ..
They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper, thyme and rosemary ..
If I remember correctly, Daily Mirror or a similar newspaper made a lot of fuss saying that Polish immigrants in the UK were killing and eating swans a while ago. That cracked me up, swans? I´ve never heard of anyone eating swans
strange that poles dont eat swans in poland despite the joblessness but they do in daily mirror.
The Senior Playground in Hyde Park, which opened this week.
It’s the opposite of a children’s playground: instead of seesaws and climbing frames it is full of fancy exercise equipment for pensioners to keep their joints from creaking.
Scientists have succeeded in creating artificial life in a test tube, in a development which promises to revolutionise biotechnology.
The research opens the way for scientists to create new life forms that can be genetically programmed to carry out a variety of functions, such as producing carbon-free fuel or made-to-order vaccines and providing new forms of food and clean water. However, the study also raises ethical concerns about the technology falling into the wrong hands, and, for instance, being used to make biological weapons, or by scientists to "play God" with life.
Scientists have succeeded in creating artificial life in a test tube, in a development which promises to revolutionise biotechnology.
The research opens the way for scientists to create new life forms that can be genetically programmed to carry out a variety of functions, such as producing carbon-free fuel or made-to-order vaccines and providing new forms of food and clean water. However, the study also raises ethical concerns about the technology falling into the wrong hands, and, for instance, being used to make biological weapons, or by scientists to "play God" with life.
I think it is time for creationists to salute the science!! Because this was the LAST castle for them
(The research team, led by Craig Venter, who previously directed one of the teams which decoded the human genome, said they had created synthetic life in the form of a new species of bacteria that operates entirely under the control of a man-made set of genetic instructions, originally stored on a computer. They synthesised the genome of a bacterial cell and used it to "boot up" the empty cell of another species of bacteria, which then replicated freely as if it were carrying its own set of genetic instructions instead of a set made in a laboratory.)
Not so fast! Nobody can create a life!
They used existing bacteria! phew, so much for the gods of science!
They are delicious..They taste like aromatic chicken.. The meat is a bit tough but you can soften it by marinating with garlic, olive oil and balsamic vinegar, 24 hours prior to frying.. Dont forget to add seasoning (I would recommend salt, pepper, thyme and rosemary ..
Bit behind Turkey in the UK aren´t they? There are at least 4 of these excercise parks here on the Bodrum peninsula that I know of and Trudy uploaded a photo of one she saw on the outskirts of Istanbul recently. Only difference being is that they are used by all ages - my neighbour´s 19 year old daughter and her friend go to the local park to exercise every day when they are home from Uni - not as good as a gym but the main point is it´s free!
Quoting thehandsom
Playground for pensioners
The Senior Playground in Hyde Park, which opened this week.
It’s the opposite of a children’s playground: instead of seesaws and climbing frames it is full of fancy exercise equipment for pensioners to keep their joints from creaking.
Bit behind Turkey in the UK aren´t they? There are at least 4 of these excercise parks here on the Bodrum peninsula that I know of and Trudy uploaded a photo of one she saw on the outskirts of Istanbul recently. Only difference being is that they are used by all ages - my neighbour´s 19 year old daughter and her friend go to the local park to exercise every day when they are home from Uni - not as good as a gym but the main point is it´s free!
Quoting thehandsom
Playground for pensioners
We have one in the town centre as well. Loads of people of all ages using it.
The Senior Playground in Hyde Park, which opened this week.
It’s the opposite of a children’s playground: instead of seesaws and climbing frames it is full of fancy exercise equipment for pensioners to keep their joints from creaking.
Then you have to pay his ex wife Duchess of York Sarah!!
The Duchess of York has been filmed offering to sell access to ex-husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 .. The News of the World said Sarah Ferguson was filmed by an undercover reporter posing as a businessman. She appears to accept a $40,000 cash payment, and is quoted as saying: "Look after me and he´ll look after you."
Then you have to pay his ex wife Duchess of York Sarah!!
The Duchess of York has been filmed offering to sell access to ex-husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 .. The News of the World said Sarah Ferguson was filmed by an undercover reporter posing as a businessman. She appears to accept a $40,000 cash payment, and is quoted as saying: "Look after me and he´ll look after you."
Spanish matador Julio Aparicio was recovering in hospital on Saturday after suffering a horrific goring during a bullfight in Madrid.
The half-ton bull caught the torero under his chin after he lost his footing and stumbled while executing a pass with his red cape at the Spanish capital´s packed bullring.
The horn of the animal tore into the bullfighter´s throat and emerged through his mouth in a dramatic goring on Friday evening that had the crowd screaming in horror.
I can´t imagine that this is still going on. I do feel a sense of pity for the matadore because I know he is critically injured, but I also have pity for this bull. At least the matadore made the decision to go and fight with a bull....but this bull had no choice and was just defending himself.
Anyway, the fact that this is subsidized by the EU makes it seem like all of Europe is OK with bull-fighting, which I know is not the case. These subsidies should stop.
Then you have to pay his ex wife Duchess of York Sarah!!
The Duchess of York has been filmed offering to sell access to ex-husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 .. The News of the World said Sarah Ferguson was filmed by an undercover reporter posing as a businessman. She appears to accept a $40,000 cash payment, and is quoted as saying: "Look after me and he´ll look after you."
now it is easy to understand how she did that bad advertisement about Turkey few years ago. she gave or got money and played a game in Turkey, and her lies about TR is clear now we turks never behave bad to children....they are future...
Duchess of York faces criminal charges over Turkish child-scandal
Why do all Peta-actions involve naked people? I thought it was an animal-welfare organization, not a pro-nudist organization.
I think PETA is one of those organizations that pretty people join so that they can get attention and feel important. I guess if some animals are saved in the interim, then maybe it isn´t all bad. But in the long run, exploiting women to save animals is counterproductive.
When I looked at those pictures the first thing came into my mind that ´omg poor bears´ not ´omg look at her boobs´
Buzz word in that news is ´the bears´
Well, I started to think "why is her outfit so weird" and then I noticed that her outfit was paint! She could have worn clothes as well. I guess it´s linked to the other thread, sex sells. Google peta, and press images. You´ll get a playboy-like collections of pictures.
Five decades after the first coup swept through Turkey, an organization is seeking to erect a museum to honor democracy, commemorate those we lost and help ensure the country never forgets about Yassıada Island, where the junta trials took place. ‘I want people to bury the mentality of the time and plant seeds of peace and love,’ says a former political leader
DAILY NEWS photo, Hasan ALTINIŞIK
The small, abandoned, beautifully gloomy Yassıada might be a physical manifestation of the history of the military’s dominance in Turkey, but 50 years after the 1960 coup the island is home to no more than political ghosts.
Forgotten by most people for 364 days a year, the island has become the focus of efforts by an NGO seeking to change its name to Democracy Island and build a democracy museum to serve for future generations. coup, May 27, 1960
Five decades after the first coup swept through Turkey, an organization is seeking to erect a museum to honor democracy, commemorate those we lost and help ensure the country never forgets about Yassıada Island, where the junta trials took place. ‘I want people to bury the mentality of the time and plant seeds of peace and love,’ says a former political leader
DAILY NEWS photo, Hasan ALTINIŞIK
The small, abandoned, beautifully gloomy Yassıada might be a physical manifestation of the history of the military’s dominance in Turkey, but 50 years after the 1960 coup the island is home to no more than political ghosts.
Forgotten by most people for 364 days a year, the island has become the focus of efforts by an NGO seeking to change its name to Democracy Island and build a democracy museum to serve for future generations. coup, May 27, 1960
People in Turkey are still debating if it was a revolution or just a simple an army coup..
27 May 1960 was the date when the army intervened into politics for the first time.. And of course, later on, they kept messing around.. They still do!!
27 May 1960 was the date when the army intervened into politics for the first time.. And of course, later on, they kept messing around.. They still do!!
I thought it was a military intervention that created the Republic in the first place.
Young boy is caught falling from an escalator in Istanbul shopping mall - the daft little buggar was riding up the side when a sharp eyed customer saw him and caught him as he fell when he reached the top!
Young boy is caught falling from an escalator in Istanbul shopping mall - the daft little buggar was riding up the side when a sharp eyed customer saw him and caught him as he fell when he reached the top!
The report on BBC World News this morning that it was Britain´s worse mass murder for 10 years. It was also surmised that it all started because of a family feud over a will.....
It seems that, however much you try to avoid danger in your life for yourself and your family, there is really no defence against crazy people with guns.
The report on BBC World News this morning that it was Britain´s worse mass murder for 10 years. It was also surmised that it all started because of a family feud over a will.....
It seems that, however much you try to avoid danger in your life for yourself and your family, there is really no defence against crazy people with guns.
Life is short and is not safe guarranteed that is why I invite you to put your trust in God so you wont lose your life but gain it, because you are gonna pass away soon or later, and it doesnt end there.
BP is has a commercial on TV thanking the US government for their support during the recent fiasco! What a load of crap! They should save their money and not spend it on advertising....they are going to need it!
BP is has a commercial on TV thanking the US government for their support during the recent fiasco! What a load of crap! They should save their money and not spend it on advertising....they are going to need it!
Well, BP´s CEO had to do it after he ticked of the entire nation, by saying that this whole event was so hard, and he wanted his life back. YEAH! The guys who died on that platform also want their lives back! Now the CEO´s trying to create some goodwill amongst the American people by performing a very well practised, professionally written speech. Don´t think it´ll work
The mysterious human desire to paint its pet dogs so that they look like other animals which are not dogs has reared its head once more, with a selection of painted dogs being displayed in China.
The mysterious human desire to paint its pet dogs so that they look like other animals which are not dogs has reared its head once more, with a selection of painted dogs being displayed in China.
Only a certain type of man wears Speedos. A certain type of, shall we say, deluded exhibitionist. The type of man who wants to show you his bacon and eggs before you’ve even agreed to have dinner with him, let alone breakfast.
And the bad news is that he and his minitrunks are heading your way without delay.
For reasons known to only themselves, British men are once more gung ho for the itsy bitsy, teeny weeny charms of the Speedo.
Only a certain type of man wears Speedos. A certain type of, shall we say, deluded exhibitionist. The type of man who wants to show you his bacon and eggs before you’ve even agreed to have dinner with him, let alone breakfast.
And the bad news is that he and his minitrunks are heading your way without delay.
For reasons known to only themselves, British men are once more gung ho for the itsy bitsy, teeny weeny charms of the Speedo.
"fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.
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As soon as I plopped my feet into the warm water, black shoals formed around my limbs.
My toes disappeared from view under a writhing mass of the darting creatures. These fish may not have teeth - but as I lowered my feet into the tank they felt like an army of tiny mouths munching my skin.
The sensation wasn´t painful but it wasn´t exactly soothing either.
Feeling the fish slither around my ankles made me squirm, but after ten minutes the tickling ebbed away and the experience became strangely relaxing.
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It eats away dry skin, which not only leaves the feet soft and smooth but also reduces stress levels, claim the spa owners.
"fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.
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As soon as I plopped my feet into the warm water, black shoals formed around my limbs.
My toes disappeared from view under a writhing mass of the darting creatures. These fish may not have teeth - but as I lowered my feet into the tank they felt like an army of tiny mouths munching my skin.
The sensation wasn´t painful but it wasn´t exactly soothing either.
Feeling the fish slither around my ankles made me squirm, but after ten minutes the tickling ebbed away and the experience became strangely relaxing.
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It eats away dry skin, which not only leaves the feet soft and smooth but also reduces stress levels, claim the spa owners.
"fish pedicure" at the spa, in Kensington, west London.
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Oh I´ve heard of this before! Funny, I was just sitting here bemoaning the state of my feet from constant flip-flop wearing!!! Maybe it would be cheaper if I just went down and stood in the sea though - loads of small fish in the shallow waters [as opposed to the sharks in Bar Street ]
TheH - what are you doing reading ´The Sun´?????
Edited (6/11/2010) by lady in red
[just noticed the article link]
This is the MAIN reason I will not swim in the sea or a lake...its swimmng pools for me...why would anyone pay for this? GROSS
Yourself!!!!
You are not invited anyway!! I have invited lemon to come with me!!
While Feeling the fish slither around our ankles made use squirm we would both think how much you have missed that sensation!!
And as it says in the article, we would be spreading our toes to make fish happy..
You will be jealous!!
"Boss Karen told me that spreading my toes would make the fish really happy, as they find this dead skin particularly tasty - and sure enough the tiddlers surged between them.
They also fed extensively on my very dry - and slightly mangy - heels. The treatment was completed with a foot massage. My feet definitely looked and felt smoother, though the spa owners told me it takes around three treatments to get them baby soft.
You are not invited anyway!! I have invited lemon to come with me!!
While Feeling the fish slither around our ankles made use squirm we would both think how much you have missed that sensation!!
And as it says in the article, we would be spreading our toes to make fish happy..
You will be jealous!!
"Boss Karen told me that spreading my toes would make the fish really happy, as they find this dead skin particularly tasty - and sure enough the tiddlers surged between them.
They also fed extensively on my very dry - and slightly mangy - heels. The treatment was completed with a foot massage. My feet definitely looked and felt smoother, though the spa owners told me it takes around three treatments to get them baby soft.
Then get naked and ride your bike round London to protest against car culture and oil dependency.
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A peaceful, imaginative and fun protest against oil dependency and car culture. A celebration of the bicycle and also a celebration of the power and individuality of the human body.
Then get naked and ride your bike round London to protest against car culture and oil dependency.
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A peaceful, imaginative and fun protest against oil dependency and car culture. A celebration of the bicycle and also a celebration of the power and individuality of the human body.
Wow..I still remember the first time I heard their songs years ago in an Istanbul cinema-cafe..It was in Beyoglu Emek.
I remember hearing this song and asking the guy immediately who they were and then buying their cassette..
Then their tireless and fearless string of concerts..(I am not exaggerating, once we were around 750 people in their concert in Besiktas and at least 100 of them were policemen...)
And after all those years, they celebrated their 25th anniversary with 55.000 people..And this time with no police and with no incident!!
Wow!! A great indication about how far Turkey has managed to advance with democracy!!
Saw a documentary about Shell and the oil leakages in the Niger delta. The constant leakages have spread WAY more oil in the surrounding waters then the BP leak did. So the question pops into my head... is the media attention for this WAY lower because this is a long-term problem, slowly leaking oil everywhere (instead of starting with a big bang like the BP leak), or (way more likely) is this a matter of geography?
Saw a documentary about Shell and the oil leakages in the Niger delta. The constant leakages have spread WAY more oil in the surrounding waters then the BP leak did. So the question pops into my head... is the media attention for this WAY lower because this is a long-term problem, slowly leaking oil everywhere (instead of starting with a big bang like the BP leak), or (way more likely) is this a matter of geography?
Just my thoughts.....because the oil is leaking into the Niger delta (and not the Mississippi or the Danube for example) and is not hurting anyone from a Western country, people do not notice. Africa has long since been suffering for the rest of the planet´s greed (oil, minerals, gem stones, diamonds). Sad, shameful...but true.
(This story has been updated to reflect new developments on Assange´s whereabouts, including the cancelation of a scheduled appearance in Las Vegas.)
Pentagon investigators are trying to determine the whereabouts of the Australian-born founder of the secretive website Wikileaks for fear that he may be about to publish a huge cache of classified State Department cables that, if made public, could do serious damage to national security, government officials tell The Daily Beast.
People from Wikileaks have been arrested and interrigated by American secret agents before. It was about the killing of innocent civilians and two war-photographers then, which Wikileaks was about to publish a video about. I think the people for this organization do great work. Knowledge is power, so I happily donated to this organization.
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I don´t think there has been a day since these statistics were first available when less than half a dozen new members were registered....and now look, not a single new registration in7 days.