An Iraqi reporter called visiting U.S. President George W. Bush a "dog" in Arabic on Sunday and threw his shoes at him during a news conference in Baghdad. Iraqi security officers and U.S. secret service agents leapt at the man and dragged him struggling and screaming out of the room where Bush was giving a news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

http://www.welt.de/english-news/article2877144/

I think the guy got a free ticket to Guantanamo.

 you are not even capable to analize things properly. opposite, he will become a hero now

after this being published now everywhere. michael moore deserves the bigest ticket then according to your ways of thinking.

I didn`t know Michael Moore was Muslim.

 and how do you know that the reporter is a practising jihadist muslim then?

and i didnt know that all muslims live in guantanamo

you think you have to be guilty of smt to get jailed in guantanamo? how do you know all the people jailed and tortured in guantanamo are "practicing jihadist muslims"? they don`t even have rights to defend themself.

Quoting tamikidakika

An Iraqi reporter called visiting U.S. President George W. Bush a "dog" in Arabic on Sunday and threw his shoes at him during a news conference in Baghdad. Iraqi security officers and U.S. secret service agents leapt at the man and dragged him struggling and screaming out of the room where Bush was giving a news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

 

http://www.welt.de/english-news/article2877144/

 

 

 

I think the guy got a free ticket to Guantanamo.

This is quite a sweet protest actually..

We should follow what is hapening to that guy..But I doubt it he will end up in Guantanamo..

i was watching this vid on youtube when tami started this thread.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DVKkZmS5CFk

it looks like arab brothers took care of him, i think he will beg for guntanamo after being dealt by his own countrymen

 i dont know how do you know?

there are thousands of jihadists in the world who enjoy freedom and wealth in the west. they preach for hatred and murder, and unfortunately they are protected by the human right activists. they recruit young and naive boys to become jihadists, they upload lessons to the internet of how to make bombs and the successful millitary operations where they murder and blow up crowds. now if we want to jail them we would need thousands of guantanamos.

tami, now imagine an american reporter throw a shoe onto mr. gul?

what would be your reaction , tami?

I would congratulate the guy

Quoting tamikidakika

An Iraqi reporter called visiting U.S. President George W. Bush a "dog" in Arabic on Sunday and threw his shoes at him during a news conference in Baghdad. Iraqi security officers and U.S. secret service agents leapt at the man and dragged him struggling and screaming out of the room where Bush was giving a news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

 

http://www.welt.de/english-news/article2877144/

 

 

 

I think the guy got a free ticket to Guantanamo.

 He is lucky it was only a shoe!  Eggs stain

Strangely I had only been asked if I had seen this by a colleague about half an hour before reading this thread........wierd timing!!!

I guess they will start asking reporters to remove shoes at press conferences now?

 He commented they were a size 10....

 Yes, our president has had to take special "shoe dodging classes" since the beginning of the war in Iraq.  He is proficient at dodging size 7-11.    If the guy had been a size 12, perhaps he would have actually hit him! 

Or size 6

Because he wouldn´t have seen it coming

 He is still in training to dodge women´s shoes as well.  It seems a bit of a challenge to get him to duck in time so as not to get hit with the pointy tip or the spike heal.

How do you think he would get on with my platform boots???

Not that I would throw them at anyone - I am too attached to them!!!

 Bod, I am going into image overload here but I am sure these would kill him if they hit him anywhere on his upper body!

How can you go into image overload when I only posted a single picture???

*CoNFuSeD*

 He probably thought he was being attacked by some type of animal...

A different pair of my boots which are much more furry than those have been mistaken for being a dog while they were sat under my mother´s dining table

 That is too funny.....

 Unfortunately I don´t have a pic of those boots here

 Please be patient with me bod....I am not used to size 12 fury platform boots on a man.  Have some pity, will you!

  me too

 Why find I hard to believe that?

Despite all the bloody events that took place in Iraq by the U.S. A. directly or not
  I hated what the Journalist did because the President is  guest and we must be respected whatever the guest is done,this is the Arab hospitality

Sounds a little like a stupid law here: I can say what I think of a foreign statesman UNLESS he´s visiting the country, then suddenly saying X is a moron is a criminal offence! Well, hospitality is a nice and good thing, but it has its limits!

 ok I was lieing. indeed I love tayyip and aptulla and their gang.

 See? I knew you are a fan! (Collecting pictures & autographs already?   )

 well, i guess, its not only that. im sure that lots of turks would come out to the streets to protest against the amerikan shoe burning amerikan flags trying to burn down the embassy.

 awww, dont be ashamed of your culture

we have witnessed a lot of it lately, and being honest sort of fed up with it, not mentioning the famous arab hospitality to most foreigners in the past and present  where every guest must obey the arab code.

Request to catwoman, can we plz get an emotion thats rolling its eyes?

 you mean this or  or

No, use your imagimation and imagine me, what im doign to YOU!

Coz i cant satnd ur comments anymore really and i dont care if u care or not so......

UFF my tonue wants to get out of control but my manners and respect keep getting in the way, but i guess u dont know how that feels

 dear kid, i do imagine what a pain im to you, therefore i rushed with a help to you

me too cant stand comments of canli, elham, alameda and the alike. so i guess you do know how it feels?  

i think whatever you write about me wouldnt bother me much, because you would write the same thing the people above.

 Femme would you like to join us bed Americans?

 hmmm, it all depends how much cash you have

lets talk about it via pm

 How about 10 YTL? (No further zero´s......   )

 how many clogs can you buy for that?

 about 0,3 - why? interested? what´s your size?

one should be able to figure out who deserves hospitality and who does not. I think femme`s response to your post proves this

 aha, i got you i can teach you some numeracy

 1+1=many, isn´t that what you´ve taught me?

 very well

pls, send my best regards to your parents. you are simply genius

 I actually agree with you here.  Although to watch it was funny...I even think Bush wasn´t offended but found it quite odd.  But I think your right about respect.  This journalist which I believe was from Egypt actually made a fool out of himself.

Yes, teaschip, I would expect him to present Bush a golden key of the city of Baghdad to honor American invasion which has been carried out self-sacrificingly despite all those international laws etc.

 Something tells me that Bush doesn´t need a golden key...but maybe shoes were more fitting.

 you silly girl, you have no idea of the importance of the golden key!

shoes are good but keys are glowing magic.

btw, when are you planning to invade turkey to make it 52nd state? i cant wait that moment

 I think they will have to fight Lisa for it.  She has expressed interest in taking over Turkey.

Femmeous is doing her best to provoke a personal attack (as usual) but what she doesn´t know is, she is not beep it. 

Where did you read that he is from Egypt ?

They said he is Ýraqi every where i search

Can you provide a link so i can read it ?

 Canli, I just checked and he worked for a station based out of Egypt but was Iraqi..

http://www.metimes.com/International/2008/12/15/arabs_discuss_flying_shoes_protest_at_bush/1529/

Does it matter???

He was a shoe throwing journalist - enough said!!!

 awwww it hurts canli now! i knew this

no, its impossible nothing bad can come from egypt!

 it matters to her, it does, she cant stand anything negative about egypt as every turk cant stand anything negative about turkey.

now, im just wondering if canlis comment wont offend elham?

but this shoe journalist is a nice sensation for this moment

 and you love my posts

a personal attack? only? i thought i provoked a national attack at this moment you were supposed to get a heart attack

But is throwing a shoe or two at Bush a negative thing to do........

I guess it has the unfortunate side-effect of leaving you barefoot

 yes, and im really worried about that poor journalist now, we need to send him shoes. being barefoot is very negative.

i supposed AE can organise some charity at her coffee laundry to collect enough pennies for a pair of shoes.

No Laundry in the lounge sorry - that is YOUR domain!  

I already sent him some clogs

I usually spend much of the summer barefoot........

Although I don´t think I would want to in the current climate!!!

 you are not thoughtful, ae.

an arab in clogs?

have some mercy on him.

Makes riding a camel difficult

 Not a very PC comment.......

I´m not known for always being PC sweetie........

 the more i think of those shoes the more i feel sorry for the chap.

AE, dont send clogs, have mercy on camels.

Yes - it´s a raw deal to be left barefoot having done the world a favour

 and AE wants to send just a simple dutch pair of clogs to such an international hero from Egypt.

 Offffff ok ok, there IS a credit crisis you know!

I suppose I should send him a pair of Jimmy Choos.....

Doudi could send him some Converse.......

 dont involve the baby here

Why not???

She has good taste in footwear

 I think you feel offended more than Bush himself, that made  your comments like a hallucination

 oh dont be silly, she knows only how to rub the oil lamps

and so far i know the only and solely expert on shoes - loveprague.

Ah - so it is loveprague that is the shoe expert is it???

We will have to compare notes on footwear then as I have a large collection myself

 me offended?  i just had a good fun thanks to the shoeman.

i think you are more offended than bush himself reading your previous post

and i dont think bush was offended, he just was shocked a bit.

but i have noticed you guys took good care of the shoeman as it is reported by alpha

 instead of wasting the money on your collection you could have supported me trip to dutches

Wasting money - *tsk*

Buying shoes and boots is NEVER a waste of money m´dear.

A boi can never have too many pairs of boots.

This is just some of what I took to my mother´s when I visited her for six days!!!

 Actually not,i dont care wehther he was from Egypt or not...but i havent heard he was from Egypt in any where,thats why i was wondering.

Ps: Thx for the link Teas.

 +1

i watched this vid (for those who have an access to youtube)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N_qpTy-i564&feature=related

and actually didnt understand what mr bush was trying to say.

No change there then

It doesn´t matter nobody understands what he says anyway. He routinely organizes these press conferences exclusively for dumbtellectuals.

You mean people on the same intellectual level as himself

Yes. Pity femme was not invited to the event.

Who knows maybe she would impress the attendance so much leaving Bush in the shadow and become the target for that shoe in his place.

 Actually, that would have been more interesting.  Femme would have caught the shoes, then beat the reporter over the head with them.

 I should hope so.....she is the Headmaster at Femme´s School of Shoe Flinging!

Solidarity

 i see elham here

and OMG, vineyards and the hairy holding the banner

what a nice solidarity

 I bet these people also condemn violence... 

This one is not only for teaschip...

I bet all that you see there is riff-raff. 

Picture yourselves being occupied by Russians holding banners like those in your fancy dresses. I bet you´d lay down on the ground and kiss Putin´s shoes...

Your messages indicate you surely have the "I" part but the "Q" is still nowhere in sight...

If you are unable to understand the meaning of a simple reaction from the people of a country whose honor is destroyed illegally and unfairly, you are really hopeless, people. 

Keep on with your camel jokes but don´t forget those scums will overthrow the tyrans in their country sooner than later.

And don´t take offense at this post, you deserve it.

teas, when you bow down and kiss putin´s shoes (i dont know why putin and not medvedev ), tell me, i will teach you how to sing the hymn of russia

 You still remember that old song?????

A "dummy" government lead by a "dummy" PM, invites the President of the country who illegally keeps his country under invasion for years and dummy journalists take notes. Who the hell are you Mr. President, how can you both claim religious, at the service of God and torment millions of people on Earth just because you have the power to do that?

 of course, i do. i sang the song as soon as i was born

Have I missed something here..what camel jokes?  And no I hope I don´t ever have to kiss Putins shoes...

Sure, you are looking to invade Turkey first...

 he writes such things when he drinks too much raki mixed up with camel urine

Did the doctor check whether you had a spine?

In all fairness, I can´t imagine being a citizen of Iraq (do we know where this guy if from anyway?) and not feel a certain level of frustration.  Perhaps he felt it was the only thing he could do to express that.  

On the other hand (or foot), if the perverbial shoe was on the other foot, and an American had thrown a shoe at an Arab leader, I am sure Arab people would be screaming in the streets for justice.    

I never drink raki. I only drink good quality wine. Are you sure you are not talking about your cheap vodkas?

 lisa, i heard you were going to invade turkey. WHEN? pls hurry up!

 Is that what they are serving now in the Translation Lounge.  I guess the economic crises has affected them as well.

What a debate! For all I know there´s an organisation in Europe that throws cakes into politicians they don´t like. Maybe that´s their Arab counterpart (Still, I´m more of a cake-person, not really a shoe freak)

You mean after the Arabs invading the US?

 you must be extremely rich if you drink good quality wines but i think you add some pills to become this mental

i ve never tasted cheap vodka, so cant tell you what it feels. maybe turkish resort boys know it better?

 Well, femme, I need to learn Turkish first....and you people keep dragging me into all these  ridiculous threads! 

 Me too.  I would rather have rasberry jam than toe jam myself...

You seem to know the taste of urine though. 

Just out of curiosity really, if you are married, your husband is my hero. I respect that person for being so modest in his expectations and for the perseverance he has shown by withstanding the absurd difficulties of this unfortunate marriage...

Give my regards to him, he is the man...

HOw about Femme´s famous wine she made by hopping on grapes with her fungus feet?

Primary school writing assignment... Do you need help?

 the urine is a quite popular drink in the middle east.

i can divorce my husband and give him to you if want. so you can have your private hero at your hand.

you show your disgusting inner world on which all your personality is built up. and so many times you tried to act otherwise.

the same post you tried on teas last year, you middle-aged misery.

 Well, I was thinking in all fairness at least he didn´t have a deadly weapon.  Unless, of course a shoe could be considered this.

 yes, im not highly educated unlike you

I would like to know more about these camels...myself.

 and it is sold to vineyards as good quality wine

I think you are beginning to get angry. How does it feel to irritate people?

You see it is very easy to fight with you in your way...

This broken feeling is good for you. If you want to be so showy offy, you need to learn something. Learn first and show off later...

As for my age, I was born in 1967 and like everyone else I will live as long as my body withstands.  I play basketball and walk a lot. I never drink until I get drunk. So, I don´t think I am a middle age misery. You can hold on to the image in your mind if that makes you happy. 

Maybe I can do this for you. If I die unexpectedly one of these days, I will arrange someone to send you a PM. I wish you celebrate this, with your favorite camel urine singing the US Anthem with a grotesque voice never minding the notes out of joy.

Ok boys and gals,no more insults nor invading not here at least

Let´s all grow up and be nice to each other,respect our differences

Ýf you have something nice say it,if you dont,try to hold it and get a prize for that

 you can go to camel fights in turkey the analogy of chicken fight

 awww, im 100% sure you loved some insults that you kept so quiet until i started replying

Poor girl... Aren´t you supposed to be deleted from this site?

That is REALLY getting ridiculous,and increasing day after the other

What is it and where are we ?

Are we in some kind of kinder garden with some kids cant do anything better than fight,exchanging insults when they lack the logical base or when they got pissed off ?!

Or we are mature people try to have good time together with some common interest that gathered us in that site ?

We are different,and we should be different too,regarding our upbringing,our believes,or logics..etc

Then what exactly are we doing here now ?

We try to change everyone to be same as we are ?

We try to understand the differences between us ?

We try to learn new thing,maybe in language,maybe in other people tradition,maybe even in life ?

What exactly are we doing here ?!

We cant change each other...we are not same,and we will NOT be same

So why dont just we accept that,and try to learn,see something new ?

Ý dont believe you guys....what are you doing really ?!!!

And then you complain about deleting posts !

Guess what?

People dont come to site to see or read rude comments,but they come to know or learn something new !

 i thought it was you who got deleted yourself from this site and departed to turkish delight?

 +1

exactly my thought, i everyday learn new things in TC

People who are irritated by femmeous posts, please do not reply her. Just ignore her posts. It´s just a waste of time to read and comment on her posts. I have done that before. I´m very sad that she´s back. A person that has such hateful comments in her posts cannot have a healthy mind, and healthy people should deal only with healthy people unless you are a doctor. She displays a weak character that gets satisfaction from the hurt she causes or "thinks that she causes" by her insults in a cyber environment. Though, she can fit very well to the Stormfront forum where the weak people from all over the world give masturbation to each other.

As a moderator, I do not have the chance of skipping her messages in every forum.

 wow, this is something very impressive.

as a free person not tied by any traditions, customs and brainwashing patriotic feelings i dare speak the truth which hurts you.

Actually im not planning on deleting any post here in that thread...i will leave them so you all would be ashamed of that thread .

Ý know i am..as a member of that site,im ashamed of the level of conversation that thread has reached to.

That is the meaning of the freedom of speech in your ´plural´ understanding?!!!

Wow, you, too, impressed me. Then, tell us, you come from the space, venus? Have you been raised up by aliens? A zero brainwashed person, a person that has influenced from none of the traditions and customs. I never met him actually in my life, and scientifically, it´s impossible. So, now, don´t see your "truths" as "truth", and no truth gives you the privilege to insult people. When you insult, no one cares about your "truths".

You talk about femme being insulting then turn around and throw ridiculous insults back at her?  Why are you being a hypocryte?   

 I am a little shocked that a moderator would come out and be so open about their dislike of a member.  Perhaps this would be better stated in a PM.  I thought mods were supposed to be a little more objective.

I find this quite disturbing...coming from a mod.  So mltm tell us what you really think about femme...what you write here is just as unhealthy as what you accuse her of...if not worse.    If it´s time for honesty here......maybe YOUR time away from TC wasn´t long enough for you.

 im very unique. theres no one like me and you want to silence me, delete me, erase me.

reading this post of yours i realise that you are a child and have a totally different mentality.

you said you never met such person in your life, first its because of my uniqueness, second, you ve gotta live a life not just exist to meet such outstanding personalities like me.

i know you had to write such post about me in order to show a solidarity with vineyards. it is just a blood call, isnt it?

imagine, theres no femme, all you´d be reading in the forum would be "lets worship turkey".

 you surprise me with your knowledge of a masturbation site. i had no idea.

with personal insults: mltm, you ve gotta proove it.

bring to the forum any of my insults, let me see them, if you cant bring, then keep your nasty comment full of personal insults in your pocket.

These are false accusations. Unlike some of us, I have never become a part of a clique here. Everyone liked or hated the things that I wrote for what they are.  I never attempted to form gangs or groups again unlike some of us.

Femme in the past, you had loving and caring people around you. You would act together, write together and react together protecting one another whatever the matter was. What happened to those associations?

Did they realize something wrong in you? You do not heed moderate warnings when you become unreasonably partial, aggressive and abrasive if that is the word. The only way to deal with you is your way.

Normally, we do not ever think about things like camel urine (I have seen maybe two-three camels all my life but to you Turkey is full of camels and we drink camel urine at breakfast) it is you who put such bullshit things in our minds. I can´t help thinking that you do have a psychological problem. Did your father or mother beat you? Were you punished physically in childhood? Ever locked in a cellar? Whatever there is at the root of this, you should really see a psychologist. This will be good for your future life. This way, you will learn to establish lasting and productive relationships.

what i ve noticed that all those who call for peace, politeness and mutual respect are themselves so corrupt, double-faced to the very core of their hearts.

all their well manners, supposed culture and alleged hospitality vanishes away as soon as any criticism shows up on the horyzons. this shows their immatureness and lack of tolerance to any other voice or opinion than their own. thats all what can their mentality can stand up for a real test. im so glad im far away from you otherwise you would spit on me and throw the shoes like barbarians.

so, you, mltm and vineyards exposed all your dark and dirty sides that you always tried to hide.

i pity you.

Well, I have no problem with you pitying us but would you honor us with your absence too?

 do you have a big amount of extra cash?

OK. Nevermind. As a matter of fact, everyone needs someone whom he can hate and detest. This makes you stronger psychologically. Nothing can go so bad in life, after all there is you... Thank God.

People frowning upon these dialogues; have you ever read satire? World famous writers, poets have all tried this genre with only a few of them excelling in it. Take Mark Twain for example, he is mostly remembered for the stories of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn but indeed, he was also a top satirist who would not mind profanity where profanity is justified.

 strange enough, you thank God whose existence you deny. vineyards, you always keep contradicting yourself, at the same time you fail to see it. actually i tend to think you even dont know what you are talking about.

 and more thing, you keep entertaining me by such texts about great minds, writers, poets, artists, trying to resemble their greatness (at the same time to show off) which makes me think that you ve got a complex of those people.

i just doubt that you actually understand the satire. most of satirists had to die in times where people had no ability to digest their works. and such people remind me many of you here on tc including you.

Is this an interval?

Popcorn anyone?

Who are you to decide that my time away was not enought for me and bla bla?

You find it quite disturbing, I do not care. And I´m not a mod wannabe.

If my words against such a sick minded person as a mod shockes some people, I can dismiss from being a mod today, and continue saying the same things.

Here is a forum, we are not governing a country. While all these hateful and degradeful comments of this woman do not shock you as a member, and my words against her shock you because I´m a mod, then what a wonderful life, the only thing we have to do in order to write such posts as this woman is to dismiss from being a mod. Then, suddenly, it becomes "freedom of expression".

And you know what, what I do, is what she´s looking for. Isn´t this what she was looking for? Well, let´s think that I gave her a bit, though I´m not going to continue this, cause, you´re right I have much more stuff to do besides this, and answering such comments just helps me to practise 10 finger typing.

 what do you mean a hot link? is it mltms masturbation forum site?

Why I am not an atheist. I just don´t believe in any religions. I have my own understanding of the universe. I trust people like Chandrasekhar, Feigenbaum and Einstein more than Mohammad or Jesus when I want to learn how we came into existence. Nevertheless, I don´t mind using established phrases in languages I speak.

For example, in Latin they keep saying Jupiter, if I like this one I could adopt it too. That wouldn´t make me a pagan. Remember Queen and their song full of words like Bismillah, Beelzebub etc? 

 you can actually practise the finger typing by typing the books borrowed from vineyards, and then you could be smarter than this misery you type here

 and... scaramouche scaramouche can you do the fandango?

Is it over now?  Can we do our laundry in peace and share a nice bottle of rioja?

(Am I annoying? )

 yes, very much.

 Tabi kiiii?

Hmmmmm good

1. I hope so......but highly doubt it.

2. I don´t want to do laundry but I´d love a glass of rioja.

3. Of course!

 It is really annoying when you are all "fired up" enjoying a nice argument and then people like us come along with salak comments di mi?!

Has anyone ever done the fandango here? I suck as a dancing partner. Wanted to learn salsa but it didn´t work.

 Hadi Vineyards....I will teach you the fandango...

Well, if you don´t mind my stepping on your high-heel shoes, let´s give it a go...

 Wow!  You have some great moves VY ....!

 You may do better if you keep your shoes on. 

trying my best to deserve a rioja...

My shoes are on. I am not an Iraqi nationalist despite silly claims...

 We are providing a service here........ the comic relief during intermission!!

The only Egyptian dance I know is "Walk Like an Egyptian" by The Bangles which is not Egyptian dance of course.

 Like a couple of clowns

 Ouh I love that song!

I remember the girls more.

bye bye everybody...

 Iyi geceler Vineyards Travolta

We have many dances here depends on which region are you from.

But aside from  all those dances,belly dance  has its own place.

Women and men dance it,but not same ways,men dont do women´s moves,not like that dancer in youtube whatever his name is.

So you can imagine the best one who can ever dance the belly dance in Türkiye,and im afraid our Egyptian dance will be better lol

That was written by Prince!

Now, you don´t need to be a journalist, you can throw shoes at Bush as well, and even more successfully hit his face, by the help of this game.

http://play.sockandawe.com/

 cyber primitive games what could else you promote

OMG - now I have got zero chance of getting any work done this afternoon

omg loooooooooooooool! You know my friend just sent me the video on my mobile, do you know what the guy says in arabic?

Hazeehee koblet el weda3 ya kalb

(BTW this is book arabic)

it means this is the kiss of farewell dog!

LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

Did you see the game online where Bush ids tha target and you try ti throw a shoe at him????

Ive heard the shoe costs half a milliion euros and they wanna put ti in a museum (rumor of course)

Wow, this really will be written in history

does this have anythign to do with the incident?

BUSH ´ A AYAKKABI FIRLATAN GAZETECÝYÝ KAHRAMAN ÝLAN EDÝYORUM !!!!

 It means "I proclaim the journalist who threw a shoe at Bush hero"

in a word........EVET........

It turned out that the shoes are Turkish. The manifacturer is happy, he received orders already for 300.000 pair....

It´s quite disturbing actually that this guy is considered a "hero" for such behavior.  Doesn´t surprise though.

There are plenty of folks who have a very strong dislike for Mr Bush.......

 didnt i predict so? hes a hero

This is from london

Scenes of protest outside the American Embassy in London to call for the release of detained Iraqi journalist Muntazer al-Zaidi

but he is not in an american jail, is he?

any jail in Iraq is an american jail, in case you don`t know.

 I doubt that. Not in the Kurdish northern part.

 trudy, bosver let him have his amerikan jails in iraq he needs to be always right even if he knows he is not

Ý agree with Trudy,i also doubt it,i dont think what happened in Abu Gharip can happen at any American jail,but it is under the American authority

Ý dont agree,also in Kurdish part at north Ýraq of course,they have legal existence there because of US...

And the whole country is under the American control,iraqi´s people have no saying,unless they are playing with the winning side of course so why not the Kurdish part ?

Because they stood in the face of the American invasion and kick them out and claim their country  there ?!

Do you mean those Kurds opportunistically sided up with the invading US troops, provided them with logistics, pillaging the Arab and Turkmen villages and towns, stealing ownership documents from registry offices and claiming the ownership of the entire Northern Iraq and further claim they are entitled to establishing a government there.

I suggest studying this link carefully to learn about the true dimensions of a plot designed to trust the whole nation of Iraq to the hands of the Kurdish minority which would act as a watchdog:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Iraq_from_2006

When i said claiming thier country there i meant Ýraq

Ýt was a sarcasm.

Ý dont talk about the current Ýraq government,the government putting hand in hand with the country who they should work to kick them out...but how come and they are its employees !

Ý meant for people...specially people

Ýraqi´s people are fighting the US,trying to kick them out of Ýraq

But in north Ýraq,things are quite and peacful,and as i remember well,quoting teaship´s words

Ýts almost as part of any Western area there !

So yes,by all means they took advantage and sell their country ´Ãraq´ as i remember...it was their country.

Which museum will the shoe end up in

Or will it be sold on ebay

Yeah - however caught the shoe and pocketed it could end up quite rich

Iraqi journalist who threw shoes gets 3 years

AP – This undated file photo made available Monday, Dec. 15, 2008, by his family shows Iraqi journalist Muntadhar …

 

BAGHDAD – The Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at then-President George W. Bush was convicted Thursday of assaulting a foreign leader and sentenced to three years in prison, lawyers said. He shouted "long live Iraq" when the sentence was read.

The verdict came after a short trial in which Muntadhar al-Zeidi, 30, pleaded not guilty to the charge and said his action was a "natural response to the occupation."

Some of his relatives collapsed after the verdict and had to be helped out of court. Others were forcibly removed by security forces when they became unruly, shouting "Down with Bush" and "Long live Iraq."

Al-Zeidi could have received up to 15 years in prison for hurling his shoes at Bush last December during a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

But defense lawyers said the judge showed leniency because of al-Zeidi´s age and clean record. Many Iraqis consider al-Zeidi a hero for defiantly expressing his anger at a president who they believe destroyed their country after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. Thousands across the Muslim world took to the streets to demand his release.

Defense lawyers said they would appeal because they believe the action was a legitimate political protest and did not merit prison time. ....

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

Quoting Melek74

Iraqi journalist who threw shoes gets 3 years

By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer Hamza Hendawi, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 16 mins ago

AP – This undated file photo made available Monday, Dec. 15, 2008, by his family shows Iraqi journalist Muntadhar …

 

BAGHDAD – The Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at then-President George W. Bush was convicted Thursday of assaulting a foreign leader and sentenced to three years in prison, lawyers said. He shouted "long live Iraq" when the sentence was read.

The verdict came after a short trial in which Muntadhar al-Zeidi, 30, pleaded not guilty to the charge and said his action was a "natural response to the occupation."

Some of his relatives collapsed after the verdict and had to be helped out of court. Others were forcibly removed by security forces when they became unruly, shouting "Down with Bush" and "Long live Iraq."

Al-Zeidi could have received up to 15 years in prison for hurling his shoes at Bush last December during a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

But defense lawyers said the judge showed leniency because of al-Zeidi´s age and clean record. Many Iraqis consider al-Zeidi a hero for defiantly expressing his anger at a president who they believe destroyed their country after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. Thousands across the Muslim world took to the streets to demand his release.

Defense lawyers said they would appeal because they believe the action was a legitimate political protest and did not merit prison time. ....

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

 THREE YEARS for just throwing a shoe at that idiot?!?!

He could have gotten 15 it says, which is even more ridiculous. 

He is lucky he does not live in Afghanistan..

The Afghani guy Pervez (He circulated an article about women´s rights) got 20 years!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/...-years-in-hell-1643069.html

• The maximum penalty for kidnapping is life imprisonment, and the mitigating circumstances provided in Articles 426 Paragraphs 1 and 2 and 427 were repealed.
• The maximum penalty for rape and sexual assault in Article 393 is now life imprisonment.
• The maximum penalty for indecent assault in Article 396 is now fifteen years.
• The maximum penalty for the destruction of public utlities in Article 353 is now life imprisonment.

 Are you not guilty of the same thing you/we accuse others of - by making comparisons that are completely irrelevent in order to get a cheap shot in?

huh?

 Just wondered what the Iraqi show thrower had to do with another case in Afghanistan

i think the western media support as well as western lawyers involvement made his punishment lighter. i doubt he will stay 3 years jailed.

where is tami i miss him saying that amrikans have sentenced him

 what is wrong with this comparison? what would he get if this happent in uk?

what would he get if this happent in turkey?

would he get jailed at all?

I think it just shows how disproportionate and excessive punishment can be relative to the "crime" committed. 

I was not trying to do anything really..

I just read the article this morning and I knew we discussed it in this forum..

Instead of searching and finding the related post, I posted it here..

Soo sorryyyyyy!!

who do you think sentenced him if not americans? isn`t iraq an occupied country? who is the political authority in iraq? is it the iraqis or america? is abu guraib an iraqi prison or an american one? go learn your lesson femme

 lalala  tra la la la

what`s that? national anthem of boratstan?

 hahaha you wish

no this is something that you wrote, i just interpreted into some sense.

the same text!

Our hero is free!!

Sheep are slaughtered and jubilant supporters gather in honour of the release of the unrepentant journalist..

...

http://www.independent.co......-who-threw-his-shoes-at-bush-1787978.html

Ps..Femme was right about he would become a hero!!

I miss the Borat.

 Don´t evoke her spirit...she is at peace right now!

At peace?????  You mean she has gone from this World???