Ýts not exactly the perfect time for us ´me´  to debat about west/East ,Muslim/Christian thing.

The situation there doesnt differentiate between Muslim and Christian as long as they are Palestinian.

Blessed from the West or not...its certanly blessed from the States which didnt even condemn the killing of people there

As if the Palestinian are not human to start with !

Even they show more mercy to the animals and animal´s rights than they show to the Palestinian !

Angry yes,angry i am for the statement i heared from them.

Ýf they didnt say anything at all,it would be much better !

As for the other countries,i belive Westerns or Easterns they both have same situation in condemning that barbaric action.

Ý just want to point at few things.

Ý understad Sui´s point of view

When there is a minor,or major event regarding Türkiye,all express their resentments,and make sure to share their opinions about it

But in such crisis we face it was totally silent here,although yes,there were members here logged in at that time but still,they were silent about it.

Also,yes,i agree many members here were with their families,and not having time to come here and share their opinions about it.

And also yes,if the Palestinian majority were Christians...things would be different.

Ý remember many years ago when Arafat was alive and Ýsrael surrounding him,and was firing at anyone comes near

The Churches there took action and sent some people to support and help ,Ýsrael cease fire at that time.

And yes Tami,there are some stupid freaks in there,and im sure we also have our stupid freaks as well specially now

The difference is,they are stronger than we are,so they make differences.

Just let´s hope the majority from both side would be wise enough

Ým sorry,i wont searching for links or documents about those issues,as i said at the beginning,its not the time nor the mood for such.

They now are 300 died,and between 800 to 1000 injured

Bombing is continue,they bomb mosque there,destroyed it totally,the main hospital and windows glasses fall over people in the intensive care

There are wires attached to them and glasses all over the floor.

They dont know their names,who are they,if they are muslims or christians...they all into this together.

What is wrong with you people ?!

What does religion has to do with that ?!!!!!!!!

Palestinians are Muslims and Christians,they are dying there side by side,and they are fighting their enemies also side by side

Missiles wont pick to kill the Muslim and not the Christian,and beside i dont think Ýsrael gives a s**t

Those people are dying for their lands,together...dying together.

Ý said OUR land AE not meaning Muslims lands...it was really OUR land and our people,we lived together before and during the Ottoman Empire ,and we defended this land together,side by side by its people

We paid our blood for that land.

Why it has to be about religion...about East,and west ?

This time its not about that...

Ýts about people dying for their land,and with nothing to defend themselves

Fights like we have now..East,West,Muslim,Christians,making it looks shallow,as its everyday news,we just read and go on !

So move on...there is no religion fights here...they into this together...dying together and fighting together too!

In 1517 Gaza fell to the Ottomans and was part of the Ottoman Empire until the First World War.

Starting in the early 19th century, Gaza was culturally dominated by neighboring Egypt. Though part of the Ottoman Empire, a large number of its residents were Egyptians (and their descendants) who had fled political turmoil.

According to the terms of the 1947 United Nations partition plan, the Gaza area was to become part of a new Arab state. Following the dissolution of the British mandate of Palestine and 1947-1948 Civil War in Palestine, Israel declared its independence in May 1948. The Egyptian army invaded the area from the south, starting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.^[4]

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~gov46/

Not a suitable time for history...but at that time,it was either we hope in or Ýsrael takes it all over and kick the Palestinian out

Our army which was weak too,we were controlled by another country,was the only organized army in there which can defend the land...and we did,through years we did.

So yes,im Egyptian,but it was our blood which has spilt there on that land .

Ýts our people,and our lands not yours !

For many years till recent history after the drawing of the new borders and the British invasion.

Our blood watered that land defending it

How can your anger and your grief be same as ours ?!

Ýf you were in grief really as we are,you wouldnt be discussing this with me,instead you would be feeling what we are feeling.

Anyway,case closed for me...

Ý have joint that thread knowing that i would be  sharing our tragedy with our people,and other friends and members who would be feel,or understand our grief,maybe some would attack or take other sides...but actually i havent expected this from you.

have fun...its all yours

Ým out of here.

 You know AE,

We are burying our people there,ACTUALLY burying them and you are laughing about it.

Our countries are on fire,our hearts are burning and you are making fun of it !

Ý asked you to respect our grief,but you made it another reason to fight about ?! 

Now you know when the world has turned blind ?and where did i get that prospective ?

Since there was no sensitivities even to other people´s funerals.

thank you,that was very considerate !

No AE,im asking you ´all´ to respect people´s grief and discuss the unrelated topics via pm´s thats all.

Guys,people die,their blood didnt dry yet

And their numbers are increasing every few mints

Can you please take it out of here ?

 That is exactly what i meant...im not arguing anything,nor debating

Ýn time like that,its pointless to debat if defending your country with very poor tools,even sometimes targeting your own people on the process by mistake makes you a terrorist organization or not.

 Ã agree too

Edited: 250 Þahit so far and 700 wounded

Ýna lillahi ve ina ilayhi raceon

 Are you watching it tami ?

Are you watching that man standing beside the collapsed house while he is helping a wounded man and calling for another man covered with dust and blood telling him to say Þahada ?

And the man raising his finger saying it ?

Are you watching the woman crying ,screaming her heart out and saying 3,3,all the three.2 daughters and son...haram..haram ´not fair...not fair..´

Hasbi ALLAH ve nema elvakil...

Are you watching it ?

Ý am watching it now...so yes...you are right...

Ýts pointless