But handsom,if you compare PKK with Hamas,then you are stating PKK legal rights in fighting to gain back its land which has been occupied with Türkiye.

Ýs that what you are saying ?!

That is the case with Hamas, Palestine,and Ýsrael.

 He said i am siding up with Palestinians and call them our people just for being Muslims.

At same time he doesnt think i call Kurds and Ýranians our people..Kurds and Ýranians are also muslims

Ýf what he said first was right,then what he said second would be wrong and vice versa.

Thats contradiction.

 Ã think Turks already know that.

But im with you..

Why doesnt anyone try it.

Even better...

Ýf you are sitting in your own home,then came some armed few people and kicked you out of your home,and fire at some of your family

Some run away to the neighbours to hide

Some Stayed at the terrace,and try to entered

And keep knocking.

Neighbours call the police,but the police was already corruptedgot paid by the armed men

So,they say,let things as they are.

And when you try to fight your way back..to your own home

Even by throwing stones at the windows

They call the police,and police condemn you ...and the armed people,fire at you..claiming they are defending themselves,and you are a thief,terrorist,try to break in !

 No handsom,you are contradicting yourself.

You said i call palestinians our people because they are muslims,and asked me why dont i call kurds,Ýranians also our people .

According to that logic,i should also call them our people,and you doubt that i do

See?messy ,eh ?

Thats why i said you are contradicting yourself.

As i said in previous posts,to me,to us ´Egyptians´ Palestinians are our people,regardless of religion.

You know,today is the Christmas here 7/1

And the christmas eve is tonight,celebrating it in churches,where they expect it will be flammable this year,with many protestors and many demands to the Pope too because of Gaza

So they also side with Muslims there,or with the christians in Gaza ?!!!

They just side with OUR People in Gaza.

Ýts really that simple !

As for Jordan needless to say how deep the roots are there,or the number of the Palestinians,but just small thing...Queen Rania is also Palestinian!

Oppss,yes i know it of course..we are celebrating it today 7/1

Ý dont know how i saw that date as 7/1,i made search for the Orthodox Christmas ´i made such a thread a year ago or so´ and came up with this one

Seems i wasnt concentrating

Doudi,skip that link .

 Ãm sry handsom,but its your opinion,and your case also

Your case with the greeks,armanians are not same as with us

You went through wars with them..

Ý wont also get it how you could call someone who killed you or stamp you in the back your people,unless you consider them yours but traitors !

Ýts not the case here

We didnt go to wars,fight with ours

So,they are OUR people.

Kurds,and Ýranians are Muslims,so according to you and AE,i should also call them our people.

You are contradicting yourself here !

They are sure our brothers and sisters in humanity,muslims like us ´majority´...but they are not our people.

The maps i provided was only to show how deep the roots are.

But actually i dont need the maps to say if they are ours or not,as i said,bordered are different now,but that doesnt change the facts

We have this doudi,and we also have another one,i cant find it right now .

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_1871

 Ã also agree,its annoying

Cant we change this ?

So when we refresh,we go back to the page we already opened ´forum page and not the"Latest Discussion Messages" ´ ´,and need not clicking again ?

 Ã dont know what do you expect me to deny here !

To be a humanitarian,and to show that i dont side with a particular religion shouldnt i say the words our people where they are already OURS?!

Ým sorry,you may agree or not,but that is how it is,they are OUR people

Since many years ago,changing the borders wont deny them or us this,there are roots,family ties between many of us.

Our blood watered that land defending it through the years,and i tried to explain that to you before !

This was about thousand of years before BC

And this is through the Ottoman Empire time

And in between there was Salah Eldin,Mohamed Ali..and so many others through the history.

So you want me to deny all this and deal with the tragedy as its not ours?!

Sorry,but it is,because they are OUR people...and we we are burying our deads!

That is something borderes cant change it . 

Ýsnt this what we are talking about ?

There are other companies providing them too,but for Vodafone ´the one i know about´ you can also use your own SÝM ´data SÝM´ when you travel abroad,but you pay extra money of course,something like roaming

And it cost very much,more than he fees of regular roaming of course,much more that your best choice is not to use it.