Ohhhh,so true....if only men learn !  lol

Ama that if shows it would only shows how generous we are

 What we know about Hagar RA that she was an Egyptian princess who were captured by the king of Egypt ´not Pharaoh´ on that time,took her as a slave and he wanted to add her as his mistresses but she refused being one,so he gave her as a present to Sara SA which he thought was Ýbrahim´s sister.

That story´s references were added together from both religious books and history,our Egyptian history.

On that time Egypt was invaded by Hyksos and under their authority.

Thats why in Qur´an when telling this story ALLAH dont refer to the king by the name Pharaoh which is the old Egyptian title for the king,but HE just said ´the king´ because he was one of the invaders not a Pharaoh ´who must be Egyptian´.

Although when refering to Musa ´Moses´ HZ HE said ´The Pharaoh´ and not ´The king´ because on that time Egypt was ruled by Pharaohs ´Egyptians´ and not others.

Sry for the history lesson now,just thought to share the information,also not many Muslims know it,unless they read or know the Egyptian history too to get the difference.

lol thats so funny Faruk lol

Thank you for sharing

Ama,can you also add the turkish text to it if possible ?

 That explains why you said,Ýsmael and Ýssac case is same like Ýsa and Juses,just different in translation .

you were talking about 1 son where i was talking about 2,and i was confused how come do you say when we refer to Ýsmael in Ýslam is same as you refer to Ýssac in Christianity where they are 2 different persons!

Makes sense now.

 Nahhh,nothing to feel guilty about,receiving or giving money in Bayram is so nice for both parts,it makes bayram so special.

But also spending more money in bayram in lots of other things is making it special in a way

Ým going to be bankrupt in Bayram !

 Translated,is to say same what he said or meant but in the other language.

Ýsaac is not Ýsmail,they are 2 different persons

And 2 different believes!

Ýn Ýslam we believe it was Ýsmail,and in Christianity,you believe it was Ýssac

So its not same to say that the story was about Ýssac when we are talking from Muslims point of view

Ýn your example,Ýsa is Jesus...that is same person,so it makes sense of course to say Jesus instead of Ýsa, no problem,and wont change anything.

But here,Ýsmail and Ýssac is 2 different believes...its different

So he was far away from being correct .

 Actually he was not correct.

Yýlgün was telling the story as it is in Ýslam,and in Qur´an,and asked for translation,so he was telling what Yýlgün´s post about in brief,and in our believe ,it was Ýsmail,not Ýssac,and he ought to know it.

So he wasnt correct.

 Ãsmail not Ýsaac.

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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Adha

Watching ,Intolerable Cruelty

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