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The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish
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180.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 03:02 pm

Just a few paragraphs from my last column for the people who think this ´was a normal thing to do´ :

 

As I meantioned before, In anatolia there was no tradition of moving a people, a millet/nation who was not very friendly with you because of the war. 

Turks or Ottomans did not even consider to deport the Bulgarians when they were fighting between them and the Russians and they well knew they would lose the war but the idea of deporting Bulgarians was never thought of. 

Ataturk never ever considered moving part of population because of rebellions during the independence war.... 

And there is still no logical explanation why you would move the women and childeren and the sick if your aim is really to protect them or your army..why not the men only? And what were the armenians in Istanbul got to do with the incidents in the east?

 

Shameful act at any level!!!

 


 

181.       oeince
582 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 03:31 pm

So in your idea, Ottoman was powerful enough to change every minorities places in the war time ha?

 

Bulgarians to here, Armenians there, Arabs here hooop everything is ok!

 

Do you live in an imaginary world? How can you realize these policies in coordination. I knew that you ask questions to provake people but i did not know you ask these without thinking on them!

 

About women and kids! Do you really ask this? If my nation splited the families and remain women, elderly and children defensless, they would be barbarian.

 

 

182.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 03:40 pm

 

Quoting oeince

So in your idea, Ottoman was powerful enough to change every minorities places in the war time ha?

 

Bulgarians to here, Armenians there, Arabs here hooop everything is ok!

 

Do you live in an imaginary world? How can you realize these policies in coordination. I knew that you ask questions to provake people but i did not know you ask these without thinking on them!

 

About women and kids! Do you really ask this? If my nation splited the families and remain women, elderly and children defensless, they would be barbarian.

 

 

 

I think you dont know what happened during that time..

You are just saying the words because you memorized them like "I am proud of my nation... I get proud of my nation twice" etc. And you think that you are doing something good..

Well continue!!




Edited (6/10/2010) by thehandsom

183.       oeince
582 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 04:01 pm

What a pity! You really think so? Ohh handsome dont do that you will make me cry {#emotions_dlg.laugh_at}

 

You know what, if you ment anything to me, i could invite you to my own flat to show you some interesting documents. But a person whose only misson is swearing at "his own nation" is nothing to me!

 

Why don´t anyone know what you believe in rather than you hate Turks?

 

Becouse you are provaker!

184.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 04:32 pm

 

Quoting oeince

What a pity! You really think so? Ohh handsome dont do that you will make me cry {#emotions_dlg.laugh_at}

 

You know what, if you ment anything to me, i could invite you to my own flat to show you some interesting documents. But a person whose only misson is swearing at "his own nation" is nothing to me!

 

Why don´t anyone know what you believe in rather than you hate Turks?

 

Becouse you are provaker!

 

It really is pity!! lol

Again, you are leaving early. No time for watermelon?

Well if you mix up ´your nation´ with ´bunch of criminals´ who committed those crimes, I recommend you get used to being humiliated..

Because they are murderers. 

Do not index your pride with some bunch of criminals..

They are not your nation!!

 

 

185.       oeince
582 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 04:36 pm

Poor guy...

186.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 04:57 pm

I think I will post this too (from my column again)

 

A translation from Nazim Hikmet

...

Bakkal Karabet’in isiklari yanmis.

Affetmedi bu Ermeni vatandas

Kürt daglarinda babasinin kesilmesini.

Fakat seviyor seni,çünkü sen de affetmedin

bu karayi sürenleri Türk halkinin alnina

.....

 

The lights in the Shop of Karabet are on..

That Armanian citizen never forgave

His father´s slaughter in Kurdish mountains

But he loves you

Because neither you did  forgive those people, 

Who blackened the foreheads of Turkish people

......

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187.       scalpel
1472 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 05:05 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

´yes. we did it..we are proud of it and we can do it again to others such as Kurds´


 

 

WHOA !!!  Hold on there, boyo !!! what are you trying to say? you really need to see a psychiatrist ASAP.{#emotions_dlg.lol} I wonder if admin will let this post remain as it is or...we will see. Wink

188.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 05:21 pm

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

WHOA !!!  Hold on there, boyo !!! what are you trying to say? you really need to see a psychiatrist ASAP.{#emotions_dlg.lol} I wonder if admin will let this post remain as it is or...we will see. Wink

 

It was not me saying it really..

Tell them the people who think ´They deserved it´!!

I wonder who they are? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

So you are not one of them? You dont think they deserved it?

 

189.       scalpel
1472 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 05:52 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

It was not me saying it really..

Tell them the people who think ´They deserved it´!!

I wonder who they are? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

So you are not one of them? You dont think they deserved it?

 

 

It was your post:

 

Quoting thehandsom

Come on.. Stop getting personal.. lol

So, do you want to compare Samsun and Diyarbakir this time to show that how terrorist Kurds are? eh? lol

 

Come on ..tell us once more:

´yes. we did it..we are proud of it and we can do it again to others such as Kurds´

Say it louder this time..

 

 

you will never really stop cheap tactics.

 

you´re pretending to make it look like someone else told that which is not true.

 

why not you try to be direct with your words?

 

stop pretending to be smart..you are not.

...

btw im still waitin´ 4 the admin 2delete ur post! Wink

 

 

 

190.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Jun 2010 Thu 06:37 pm

Well ´you smart boy´ 

Are you saying that ´something happened´ in 1915? If you check, Oeince thinks "nothing happened" during this relocation.. And it was one of the most ´beautiful -in humane act´ according to him..

I think it is what you think as well...

Since it was an innocent act and nothing happened why are you crying as if ´if I said something horrible´? eh?  

You have two choices:

- Either you are accepting what did happen was a horrible thing. (which means I am not the one you have to be against, it was oeince..I am trying to say that it was a horrible thing to do!!)

- You do agree with oeince and there is no problem mentioning it since you think that nothing was wrong with it..

ps..This is what happens when arguing.. you suddenly ´tell´ what you have been avoiding to tell without realizing it  

Thanks for that ..

Anyway, your ´smartness´ has started to bore me... 

I think you should agree between each other and then come back as a single voice..



Edited (6/10/2010) by thehandsom
Edited (6/10/2010) by thehandsom

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