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abortion is not a forbidden topic, is it...?
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 02:25 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: If you are unable to answer above question with a "Yes" then you are not entitled to pushing your bright ideas about how women should give birth to a child everytime they become pregnant.
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Very good point.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 04:26 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SERA_2005: This does not mean that women should be in a constant state of paranoia looking for sexism where it doesnt exist. |
I completely agree. Nor should they be in a constant state of complacency and ignoring sexism where it DOES exist  |
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 05:11 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Here are some questions to those interested:
- Do you think the people around the world live according to the teachings of the prophets of their particular religions?
- Have been able to cure rape, incest, sexual discrimination?
- Are we affluent enough to have as many children as we want?
- What do you think about the starving people in Africa.
If you are unable to answer above question with a "Yes" then you are not entitled to pushing your bright ideas about how women should give birth to a child everytime they become pregnant.
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There are many people who live by what their religion teaches them, so yes is my answer. As far as the starving people in Africa, I don't see how that is relevant. They may not have the resources, education available to them. So what do you recommend, they all get abortions? I don't recall anyone pushing their ideas on anyone here, it was mearly a discussion as far as I'm concerned. I have my opinion and you have yours. We all have to live with the decisions we make in life. I personally just couldn't live with having an abortion. Does this make me a better person? Absoulety not! Does this make you a bad person? Absoulety not! It's simply a difference of views..
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 06:18 pm |
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Here is the link between the starving people in Africa and pro-life stance. If you want to save lives all that much look at this poor continent, there are lots of miseries there; people lose their lives because they can't afford basic necessities such as medicine, food etc.
If I invited people to join a fund raising campaign to help some people out there, how many people would join? Would you?
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 07:03 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Here is the link between the starving people in Africa and pro-life stance. If you want to save lives all that much look at this poor continent, there are lots of miseries there; people lose their lives because they can't afford basic necessities such as medicine, food etc.
If I invited people to join a fund raising campaign to help some people out there, how many people would join? Would you?
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Sure, I would join it. I would want to see how the funds were used though and how they were distributed. One of the big problems with charitable organizations is corruption.
I think Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is one of the best organizations, as is Oxfam
A more direct method, and the first line IMHO is working where you are. First with your own family. Not just the nuclear family, but your brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews, aunts and uncles, cousins. Do we know exactly how our family members are? Then are ones neighbors. Do we have neighbors who are hungry, sick or in need? I think we owe an obligation to them too
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 07:19 pm |
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If people are so concerned about life, then they should go to africa and get their hands dirty to undo the damage that they cause instead of preaching about what is allowed and what is not, from their comfortable western homes. They make decisions about issues that have little impact on their own lifes, but do a lot of damage to others and than as an act of good will, they will start charity. Please, don't harm and don't help, ok?
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 07:23 pm |
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Yes, there is corruption but I am sure there are decent organizations as well. Corruption being used as an excuse to stay away from charity is a very annoying thing.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 08:28 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Yes, there is corruption but I am sure there are decent organizations as well. Corruption being used as an excuse to stay away from charity is a very annoying thing. |
You are very right, however not every organization uses funds well. I think it is important to check how the organization uses it's funds that's all.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 11:26 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting vineyards: Yes, there is corruption but I am sure there are decent organizations as well. Corruption being used as an excuse to stay away from charity is a very annoying thing. |
You are very right, however not every organization uses funds well. I think it is important to check how the organization uses it's funds that's all. |
I don't think that is necessarily corruption it could just be that they are not very good at their job and need sorting out at groud level.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 11:29 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I don't think that is necessarily corruption it could just be that they are not very good at their job and need sorting out at groud level. |
I can only speak for the UK, but it would be very rare indeed to find corruption in registered charities. Sadly the corruption exists in the aid country's government who invariably steal the aid or prevent it from reaching the needy for political reasons.
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