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1.       carol.trky
165 posts
 26 Oct 2006 Thu 06:30 pm

2.       sophie
2712 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 02:49 pm

I ve heard that too. And they say it's because Turks consider the pigs as dirty animals, so that cute little pig of pooh's company, could spoil their tv. Oh well... I hope my info is wrong.

3.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 03:01 pm

i heard that its not a pig but an armadillo

4.       sophie
2712 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 03:02 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

i heard that its not a pig but an armadillo



It's a cute little pink pig! I ve watched all Winnie's movies thanks to my daughter and this pig is my favorite. M!

5.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 03:14 pm

Quoting sophie:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

i heard that its not a pig but an armadillo



It's a cute little pink pig! I ve watched all Winnie's movies thanks to my daughter and this pig is my favorite. M!



dont shout at me! they say so lol i dont care if it was pig or armadillo... and i heard that this had discussions they say pigs dont get afraid.. so its armadillo... lets better ask the creator hehe

and the reason of this cartoon is banned becoz of its consisting "pig" ...strange... and its not the first cartoon is banned because of having pig inside...

6.       sophie
2712 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 03:21 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

and the reason of this cartoon is banned becoz of its consisting 'pig' ...strange... and its not the first cartoon is banned because of having pig inside...



You mean you have never watched 'THE BABE' film?


7.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 03:26 pm

Quoting sophie:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

and the reason of this cartoon is banned becoz of its consisting 'pig' ...strange... and its not the first cartoon is banned because of having pig inside...



You mean you have never watched 'THE BABE' film?



nope i never, maybe i saw in the tv.. but i dont remember anything proper about it...
is it piglet there?
where is winnie and tiger?

8.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:25 pm

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...

9.       darrenmania
230 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:29 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...


pigs eat their excrement and loves living in mud.that's why we don't eat them

10.       cyrano
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:31 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures



I don't think so! Listen to the song:

Pigs (Three Different Ones) - Pink Floyd

Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are.
And when your hand is on your heart,
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost a joker,
With your head down in the pig bin,
Saying "Keep on digging."
Pig stain on your fat chin.
What do you hope to find.
When you're down in the pig mine.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost worth a quick grin.
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.
You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street.
You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet
And do you feel abused?
.....! .....! .....! .....!
You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.
Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry.

11.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:33 pm

Quoting darrenmania:

Quoting aenigma x:

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...


pigs eat their excrement and loves living in mud.that's why we don't eat them



When pigs are left to live naturally and free, they are forest animals who eat truffles and love to forage in the undergrowth. They use mud to "wallow" and clean their skin of pests. When they are kept as farm animals and thrown food into the same areas they have to extrete, then yes, the poor animals probably end up having to eat it along with the food.

As I said, I respect your religious beliefs. Please do the same courtesy and respect my love of all God's creatures.

12.       Capoeira
575 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:38 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting darrenmania:

Quoting aenigma x:

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...


pigs eat their excrement and loves living in mud.that's why we don't eat them



When pigs are left to live naturally and free, they are forest animals who eat truffles and love to forage in the undergrowth. They use mud to "wallow" and clean their skin of pests. When they are kept as farm animals and thrown food into the same areas they have to extrete, then yes, the poor animals probably end up having to eat it along with the food.

As I said, I respect your religious beliefs. Please do the same courtesy and respect my love of all God's creatures.

Read Leviticus. See what God has to say about eating or even touching this creature!

13.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:42 pm

Quote:

Quoting Capoeira:

same courtesy and respect my love of all God's creatures.

Read Leviticus. See what God has to say about eating or even touching this creature!



There is no need for me to read it as I do not eat ANY animal

14.       cyrano
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:44 pm

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting darrenmania:

Quoting aenigma x:

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...


pigs eat their excrement and loves living in mud.that's why we don't eat them



When pigs are left to live naturally and free, they are forest animals who eat truffles and love to forage in the undergrowth. They use mud to "wallow" and clean their skin of pests. When they are kept as farm animals and thrown food into the same areas they have to extrete, then yes, the poor animals probably end up having to eat it along with the food.

As I said, I respect your religious beliefs. Please do the same courtesy and respect my love of all God's creatures.

Read Leviticus. See what God has to say about eating or even touching this creature!



Yeah, here is the b/pig problem! God always takes side with the pigs! Take George Bush at this point.

15.       Capoeira
575 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:48 pm

Quoting cyrano:

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting darrenmania:

Quoting aenigma x:

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...


pigs eat their excrement and loves living in mud.that's why we don't eat them



When pigs are left to live naturally and free, they are forest animals who eat truffles and love to forage in the undergrowth. They use mud to "wallow" and clean their skin of pests. When they are kept as farm animals and thrown food into the same areas they have to extrete, then yes, the poor animals probably end up having to eat it along with the food.

As I said, I respect your religious beliefs. Please do the same courtesy and respect my love of all God's creatures.

Read Leviticus. See what God has to say about eating or even touching this creature!



Yeah, here is the b/pig problem! God always take side with the pigs! Take George Bush at this point.

UMMMM. It's obvious you didn't read anything before making this statement. If you have time READ Leviticus instead of assuming what it says and then you will see why your statement here is so absurd!

16.       Capoeira
575 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:49 pm

Quote:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Capoeira:

same courtesy and respect my love of all God's creatures.

Read Leviticus. See what God has to say about eating or even touching this creature!



There is no need for me to read it as I do not eat ANY animal

Good me too! Except my reasons are not 'love' of animals. Are you vegan? I am. Maybe we could share some recipes!

17.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:07 pm

Quote:

Quoting Capoeira:

There is no need for me to read it as I do not eat ANY animal

Good me too! Except my reasons are not 'love' of animals. Are you vegan? I am. Maybe we could share some recipes!



No, I am not a vegan. I eat dairy products if they are organic and free-range

18.       kai
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:10 pm

WOOO! we have another topic to debate about I love having debates.... not arguments just peoples different opinions...gives you an insite on peoples views

Anyway......

First Piglet is a pig and that is why Winne the Pooh is band from T.V. Muslism do not eat pork either because as you see...they think they are disgusting animals that eat their own excrete etc.

To be honest I like pigs...especially when they're piglets.....sooooo cute

19.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:20 pm

I wonder why Allah took the trouble to create such a "filthy, disgusting" creature?

20.       CANLI
5084 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:26 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

I wonder why Allah took the trouble to create such a "filthy, disgusting" creature?


We will know that sooner or later.
But there must be a reason for that other than eating them,for us it is forbidden,even they found a worm inside its tissues too!
Ofcourse i respect your love for them tho,as much as you too respect our disgusting of them !

21.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:31 pm

Well Canli, I always respect your views too . I wonder though if anyone ever considers the fact that perhaps animals are NOT here for US?!!!

What is their use other than for eating? I can answer that! No animal is here for our pleasure. They are another living thing which makes up the natural beauty and balance of earth. Do we ask why ants exist? Do we ask why flies exist? They are living things, along with plants, in their own right. It is our determination to control these living things which has brought this planet into the current crisis it faces. We have destroyed the 'natural balance' of all life, by trying to control it.

22.       cyrano
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:34 pm

Quoting Capoeira:

UMMMM. It's obvious you didn't read anything before making this statement. If you have time READ Leviticus instead of assuming what it says and then you will see why your statement here is so absurd!



Yes, you are right. Indeed I didn't read anything. That's why I asks people for gift-books in order to read. I think, you must be, since you advise me to read, willing to send me books.

Ehi!

23.       Capoeira
575 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 07:34 pm

Quoting cyrano:

Quoting Capoeira:

UMMMM. It's obvious you didn't read anything before making this statement. If you have time READ Leviticus instead of assuming what it says and then you will see why your statement here is so absurd!



Yes, you are right. Indeed I didn't read anything. That's why I asks people for gift-books in order to read. I think, you must be, since you advise me to read, willing to send me books.

Ehi!

Sure I would be happy to send you the Bible. Just PM your address and your book is on the way!

24.       cyrano
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 08:45 pm

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting cyrano:

Quoting Capoeira:

UMMMM. It's obvious you didn't read anything before making this statement. If you have time READ Leviticus instead of assuming what it says and then you will see why your statement here is so absurd!



Yes, you are right. Indeed I didn't read anything. That's why I asks people for gift-books in order to read. I think, you must be, since you advise me to read, willing to send me books.

Ehi!

Sure I would be happy to send you the Bible. Just PM your address and your book is on the way!



Thank you so much, Capoeira, this is very kind of you. If you don't mind, may I myself choose the book that I will read?

25.       teaschip
3870 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 09:11 pm

I never really understood the rational for those you don't eat pork, I do understand it's a religous practice though. However, it's interesting when you start researching how other animals are raised and treated. You maybe shocked to learn that not only pigs endure unimaginable suffering in conditions of filth, crowding and confinement. This leaves me to question then why pork is restricted and other animals aren't. Maybe someone could shed some light on this for me.

26.       cyrano
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 09:25 pm

Quoting teaschip:

I never really understood the rational for those you don't eat pork,



Actually some of us would eat and many of us would try, at least once, pork if we had been able to find the chance to find pork here. Alcohol is also religiously forbidden, nevertheless some of us drink and many of us have tried it at least once.

For my part, I am really curious about what it would be its taste. It is pity that I have even never seen pork.

Could anyone send me, this time, some pork?

27.       KeithL
1455 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 09:33 pm

I have points on both sides of this discussion. First, abstaining from eating pork was part of all three middle eastern based religions (Islam, Judism, and Christianity) At some point, Christians relaxed laws on pork much in the same way that abstaining from meat on all Fridays was reversed in the last 30 years. So the precedent here definitely predates Islam, which is the "newest" version of where are all three of these religions came from anyway.

For the people that feel that animals are not here for our consumption, realize that most domesticated animals that we eat today would have been extinct long ago through nature's survival of the fittest. Cows, pigs, sheep, etc would have been elimnated long ago by predatory animals and lack of a safe environment.

28.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 10:11 pm

Quoting KeithL:

For the people that feel that animals are not here for our consumption, realize that most domesticated animals that we eat today would have been extinct long ago through nature's survival of the fittest. Cows, pigs, sheep, etc would have been elimnated long ago by predatory animals and lack of a safe environment.



Your argument doesn't work with me because I agree with you! We are unnaturally keeping them alive and in large numbers. I would rather they no longer existed than have them live in the horrific conditions of factory farming.

29.       KeithL
1455 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:01 pm

I dont want to take this thread an entirely different direction, but I want to add one last thing. If animals are treated well, before they are consumed, I dont have a problem with their utilizaation. I do feel sorry for the animals that live an "assembly line life."
But animals that live in fields, or are hunted..they dont know death is coming. I think some of the "true vegetarians" think of these animals too much in humanistic terms. I dont think there is a good way to reason to with people on either side of this. You either look at it one way or the other. "No offense to my friends the vegetarians by the way..."

30.       erdinc
2151 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:07 pm

hmm

31.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:08 pm

First of all I want to say that I respect anyones beliefs, but I have to put you all straight on this front (pigs)!

When I was young we kept pigs to sell for meat. I can categorically assure you they do not eat their own excrement! They used to pile it all up one end of the shed and feed at the other end of the shed.

They are an extrememly intellegent animal very close in physiology to humans - ever heard of pigs organ transplants ie, kidneys?

Getting back to the pig farm, one of the pigs was ill with meningitus (not like humans) and it could not be sent for slaughter, and me being an animal lover I looked after it. I called it Piggy and it followed me everywhere, just like a dog.

Anyway, the pig got better and it had to go for slaughter, so I never ate pork for about 15 years after, just in case it was my pig!

32.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:10 pm

You must know that I want to have the last word ! I agree with you actually!!! If my survival depended on me finding my own food, I would hunt and eat a wild animal.

I certainly do not think of animals in humanistic terms. I am not sentimental. What I cannot bear is hyprocrisy. People will humanise cats and dogs but happily eat meat without giving any thought to how it was raised or killed. As far as I am concerned, if you eat meat you should ask yourself the following question:-
(1) Am I prepared to kill an animal myself. If yes, eat meat.
(2) If I am happy to eat baby animals (such as lambs or calf) then I should also be happy to eat kittens and puppies

Please dont accuse me of sentimentality. I support a group of animals (farm animals) which do not have the fluffy appeal of pets. I am an active member of 'Compassion in World Farming' and am proud to say that this internationally respected organisation have already made huge changes in the conditions, slaughter and transport of farm animals - but they have a long way to go before I can happily eat meat again.

33.       libralady
5152 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:14 pm

Can I have the last word?

34.       aenigma x
0 posts
 27 Oct 2006 Fri 11:19 pm

Quoting libralady:

Can I have the last word?



Sorry ! I was replying to Keith, not meaning to have the last word on the entire thread ! But maybe I have !!

35.       christine_usa
284 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 01:41 pm

This animation provides an eye opening account of factory farming of animals for food consumption. There is also a "meatrix II"
http://www.freerangegraphics.com/flash/fl_meatrix.html

36.       christine
443 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 03:08 pm

I do eat meat and have to say my favorite is pork, but i except everyones point of view. All i can say is If i were inviting a muslim to dinner of course i would not serve them pork out of respect.
It all comes down to people's traditions and cultures.If we have been brought up to eating cats and dogs. Then we would not think anything of eating them, but in our culture cats and dogs are domestic amimals and therefore not eaten.In france they eat horse.I could not do this, but again i respect that they do.( can i feel another topic coming on? )

37.       libralady
5152 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 07:04 pm

I think it is turning into a traditional TC deviation........... I agree, it all boils down to culture and traditions of the country.

For instance in China they any thing that moves! Nearly literally. I have been to many restaurants where there are tanks of fish and you choose the one you want, tanks of snakes, turtles, trushed up frogs, live chickens in the cages outside, various shellfish, still live of course. Then there are the restaurants with nice pictures of cats and dogs - yes they are on the menu. I must say they do eat some rather gruesome things (to our taste anyway). I have eaten shreaded jellyfish, braised seaslug but I stear clear of the chickens feet (and believe it or not lots of them make their way from Bernard Matthews in Norfolk to China!) Has that given you an appetite?

And all because piglet is banned in Turkey, or should it be Turkia (to avoid confusion!)

38.       kai
0 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 07:50 pm

Ahhh libralady you forgot guineapig is also on the menu in china too (I must say they really do eat nearly everything!)

Anyway I do eat meat (on an everyday bases nearly) but to be honest if I had to I would be able to live without it.

Some of my best friends are vegetarian which is great because they tend to love my cooking and always complementing m. so I have experience in cooking vegetarian dishes as well as meat dishes. The best part about my dishes is that they're from all different countries because I don't like to stick to one particular country's culture....I like to experiment and try new things myself Afterall the most common eaten meal in England is actually curry!

Quick quesion for vegetarians: How comes you use the term "If your willing to kill an animal then go ahead and eat it"? afterall we don't actually kill them. There already dead so wouldn't it be a waste for them to be slaughtered and not be eaten in the end?
Just a questiion that was on my mind I don'tmean it to sound offensive or anything....to be honest I think your answer will be..."If we all didn't eat meat then there will be no reason for them to be slaughtered in the first place"
So I kind of answered my own question lol but if it's a different answer then what is it?

(Winnie the Pooh to Food - who would have thought it lol shouldn't this now go into the food topic? lol

39.       aenigma x
0 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 07:51 pm

Quoting erdinc:

hmm



I wonder why you deleted your post here? It was really informative. Was it, perhaps, because you started it with "I have to agree with Aenigma"???

40.       aenigma x
0 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 07:59 pm

Quoting kai:


Quick quesion for vegetarians: How comes you use the term "If your willing to kill an animal then go ahead and eat it"? afterall we don't actually kill them. There already dead so wouldn't it be a waste for them to be slaughtered and not be eaten in the end?



Perhaps you didn't understand the question. Have a little think

41.       kai
0 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 08:18 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting kai:


Quick quesion for vegetarians: How comes you use the term "If your willing to kill an animal then go ahead and eat it"? afterall we don't actually kill them. There already dead so wouldn't it be a waste for them to be slaughtered and not be eaten in the end?



Perhaps you didn't understand the question. Have a little think



lol @ aenigma....my friend said something like that but she said it as "If YOU didn't eat meat then that animal wouldn't have been killed" but then I said "yes it would have because someone else would have eaten it...you mean if no-one ate meat"....thats where I put my own foot in it lol

42.       kai
0 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 08:18 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting kai:


Quick quesion for vegetarians: How comes you use the term "If your willing to kill an animal then go ahead and eat it"? afterall we don't actually kill them. There already dead so wouldn't it be a waste for them to be slaughtered and not be eaten in the end?



Perhaps you didn't understand the question. Have a little think



lol @ aenigma....my friend said something like that but she said it as "If YOU didn't eat meat then that animal wouldn't have been killed" but then I said "yes it would have because someone else would have eaten it...you mean if no-one ate meat"....thats where I put my own foot in it lol

43.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 28 Oct 2006 Sat 11:59 pm

well, dear pigs and piglets!
what was the title of the thread?
if the pig is the only reason for the pooh to be banned then im truly sorry for the turkish stupid tv management boys.
there are lots of filthy animals in this filthy wotld of us, if we remove all of them from our tellies then we'll be left only a few animals to watch! anyway this is only a cartoon!
why does this earth still carry such stupid people on itself?
i believe monkeys would be more intelligent than those in the turkish tv top management or gov! shame on them! because, the pooh is a really good cartoon with excellent values in it for the children!
cheers

44.       aenigma x
0 posts
 29 Oct 2006 Sun 12:12 am

Well Femme Fatal - how we have missed your strong opinionated posts! Lucky nobody takes them too seriously. Winnie the Pooh is (please please dont forget) a beautiful book, not just a cartoon. Also, is it lack of intelligence that make the Turkish TV companies refuse to show it, or merely a respect for the beliefs of its population?

PS. There are NO filthy animals, but plenty of filthy people!

45.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Oct 2006 Sun 12:18 am

Welcome back Femme, you have been missed! Oink, Oink.

46.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 29 Oct 2006 Sun 10:29 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Well Femme Fatal - how we have missed your strong opinionated posts! Lucky nobody takes them too seriously. Winnie the Pooh is (please please dont forget) a beautiful book, not just a cartoon. Also, is it lack of intelligence that make the Turkish TV companies refuse to show it, or merely a respect for the beliefs of its population?

PS. There are NO filthy animals, but plenty of filthy people!


well, dear, if my eyes are still there, i believe ppl are talking here about the cartoon, since its about the screened version not the book one. i sure know its a book, since i read it to my kids.
of course u ve missed my wise posts, as i see u all got sticky , glue(ie) here cos of ur sweet talk. keep flirtin!

47.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 29 Oct 2006 Sun 10:36 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Welcome back Femme, you have been missed! Oink, Oink.


hey tea! oink ionk! live long pigs! pigs long live! long live pigs! oink oink!
how r u huni? thank u for missin me, tho i dont count on bein missed, thanks God there r ppl who miss me!
cheers, hun

48.       libralady
5152 posts
 29 Oct 2006 Sun 10:38 pm

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!

49.       kai
0 posts
 30 Oct 2006 Mon 08:00 pm

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol

50.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Oct 2006 Mon 08:34 pm

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol



I'm not complaining! Maybe if I was making minimum wage and it was unsafe. But I think I'll take the good ecomony, great jobs and keep my mouth closed for now.

51.       Capoeira
575 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 01:07 am

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol



I'm not complaining! Maybe if I was making minimum wage and it was unsafe. But I think I'll take the good ecomony, great jobs and keep my mouth closed for now.

It was better before this Bush fellow decided to flush it all down the toilet! Opps, I'm off topic and a statement like this might cause somebody to think I should 'just leave'. Sorry folks for being sooo 'unamerican' and 'unTCish'. Was that politically incorrect?

52.       KeithL
1455 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 01:20 am

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting libralady:

Can I have the last word?



Sorry ! I was replying to Keith, not meaning to have the last word on the entire thread ! But maybe I have !!



We actually agree pretty much here. There is nothing I dislike more than people that hunt that dont take care of the animal properly themselves after they shoot it. As far as anyone that eats a burger should be able to clean its own animal, that seems a bit extreme. At any rate, its all personal preference anyway. I salute the vegetarians for their commitment to a cause. Its completely honorable and does nothing to insult or harm me.

53.       kai
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 03:52 am

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol



I'm not complaining! Maybe if I was making minimum wage and it was unsafe. But I think I'll take the good ecomony, great jobs and keep my mouth closed for now.

It was better before this Bush fellow decided to flush it all down the toilet! Opps, I'm off topic and a statement like this might cause somebody to think I should 'just leave'. Sorry folks for being sooo 'unamerican' and 'unTCish'. Was that politically incorrect?



lol @ capo....off topic = TC tradition! and as far as Bush goes well....well his IQ is 91 (Lowest IQ of all presidents of the past 50 years!) lol
I wonder how long it will take him to realise not very many people like him

54.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 04:52 am

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting libralady:

Can I have the last word?



Sorry ! I was replying to Keith, not meaning to have the last word on the entire thread ! But maybe I have !!



We actually agree pretty much here. There is nothing I dislike more than people that hunt that dont take care of the animal properly themselves after they shoot it. As far as anyone that eats a burger should be able to clean its own animal, that seems a bit extreme. At any rate, its all personal preference anyway. I salute the vegetarians for their commitment to a cause. Its completely honorable and does nothing to insult or harm me.



I agree with you KeithL, very well said. +1

55.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 05:00 am

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol



I'm not complaining! Maybe if I was making minimum wage and it was unsafe. But I think I'll take the good ecomony, great jobs and keep my mouth closed for now.

It was better before this Bush fellow decided to flush it all down the toilet! Opps, I'm off topic and a statement like this might cause somebody to think I should 'just leave'. Sorry folks for being sooo 'unamerican' and 'unTCish'. Was that politically incorrect?



Don't worry Capo, us Republicans are very forgiving. I promise not to ship you back on the next boat.

56.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 05:02 am

Quoting kai:

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol



I'm not complaining! Maybe if I was making minimum wage and it was unsafe. But I think I'll take the good ecomony, great jobs and keep my mouth closed for now.

It was better before this Bush fellow decided to flush it all down the toilet! Opps, I'm off topic and a statement like this might cause somebody to think I should 'just leave'. Sorry folks for being sooo 'unamerican' and 'unTCish'. Was that politically incorrect?



lol @ capo....off topic = TC tradition! and as far as Bush goes well....well his IQ is 91 (Lowest IQ of all presidents of the past 50 years!) lol
I wonder how long it will take him to realise not very many people like him



Just a note Kai no offense, "realise" is spelled wrong.

57.       Capoeira
575 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 05:29 am

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Capoeira:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!



lol ahh yes the UK is well known for it's stupidity.... no offence ....I think the government etc lets down alot of their countries, for e.g. look who USA have for a president lol



I'm not complaining! Maybe if I was making minimum wage and it was unsafe. But I think I'll take the good ecomony, great jobs and keep my mouth closed for now.

It was better before this Bush fellow decided to flush it all down the toilet! Opps, I'm off topic and a statement like this might cause somebody to think I should 'just leave'. Sorry folks for being sooo 'unamerican' and 'unTCish'. Was that politically incorrect?



Don't worry Capo, us Republicans are very forgiving. I promise not to ship you back on the next boat.

UMMMM Boats again? My My MY! Hopefully, I get a cabin, on the upper deck, with vegan cuisine this time around!

58.       arabianofelix
144 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 05:46 am

I HOPE YOU READ THIS. ESPECIALLY PIG LOVERS!

hmmm did u just come across my favorite topic.
Dubya (Bush) is kinda favorite person to me to prank on.
anyhow, im more interested in the Winnie the Pooh thingie!

OK, so here u have argued and discussed about it.
I agree that he has such good characters and a good role model of breeding golden-hearted children. true!
and i agree with all sides, but both couldnt distinguish that the Winnie is a good guy in the wrong body, i would say, wrong animal was chosen for this character.
i grew up watching winnie the pooh as well. in fact, not long ago, for im still in my teens.
I would describe Pooh as a good-enough role model, but NOT an ideal role-model for children... it rather hinders them and prevents them from choosing other BETTER role models, more vital to us. in opinion, children who become fond of Pooh, like favorite fans, and they got pooh shoes, sweater, doll, blanket, wallpaper.... i think they grew up to be somewhat mentaly un-developed people. im not saying retarded, but they could have developed some early skills instead.

True Islam prohibits pigs, and i disagree with who here called the Turkish govt silly or stupid for this action. I disagree because it was done democratically, and no doubt that if voted upon, it would be unanimous.

Maybe we should have a pig become US prez in 2008. oh im sorry, we already have one. lol

HOW can u, all people use the word pig as an insult and then use Pooh the pig as a role model for children.

So when they grow, they'll simply call eachother pigs.

"Hey pig....hiya neighbor, morning Mrs. Swine"

AS FOR THOSE WHO LIKE PORK, HAM, PORK CHOPS....
read this plz, i urge u.

"Apart from the Qur'an prohibiting the consumption of pork, bacon (pig flesh); in fact the Bible too in Leviticus chapter 11, verse 8, regarding swine it says, "Of their flesh (of the swine another name for pig) shall you not eat, and of their carcass you shall not touch; they are unclean to you." Further, did you know that a pig cannot be slaughtered at the neck for it does not have a neck; that is according to its natural anatomy? A Muslim reasons that if the pig was to be slaughtered and fit for human consumption the Creator would have provided it with a neck. Nonetheless, all that aside, I am sure you are well informed about the harmful effects of the consumption of pork, in any form, be it pork chops, ham, bacon."

The medical science finds that there is a risk for various diseases as the pig is found to be a host for many parasites and potential diseases.

Yunus: Yes, even apart from that, as we talked about uric acid content in the blood, it is important to note that the pig's biochemistry excretes only 2% of its total uric acid content, the remaining 98% remains as an integral part of the body.


http://discover.islamway.com/articles.php?article_id=39&lang=1

59.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 05:54 am

Quoting arabianofelix:


I would describe Pooh as a good-enough role model, but NOT an ideal role-model for children... it rather hinders them and prevents them from choosing other BETTER role models, more vital to us. in opinion, children who become fond of Pooh, like favorite fans, and they got pooh shoes, sweater, doll, blanket, wallpaper.... i think they grew up to be somewhat mentaly un-developed people. im not saying retarded, but they could have developed some early skills instead.



I loved Pooh bear when I was growing up...are you saying I'm mentally un-developed??

Do you have research to back up your claims??

Quoting arabianofelix:


HOW can u, all people use the word pig as an insult and then use Pooh the pig as a role model for children.



Erm...Winnie the Pooh was a bear...his friend Piglet is a pig...

60.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:03 am

Quoting arabianofelix:

I would describe Pooh as a good-enough role model, but NOT an ideal role-model for children... it rather hinders them and prevents them from choosing other BETTER role models, more vital to us.



Well, unfortunately, you cannot CHOOSE role models for children. You may WANT them to have good role models, but the fact is you can do all you want and then they'll chose some air-head like Paris Hilton ( ) as their role model

61.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:58 am

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting arabianofelix:

I would describe Pooh as a good-enough role model, but NOT an ideal role-model for children... it rather hinders them and prevents them from choosing other BETTER role models, more vital to us.



Well, unfortunately, you cannot CHOOSE role models for children. You may WANT them to have good role models, but the fact is you can do all you want and then they'll chose some air-head like Paris Hilton ( ) as their role model



Or more worryingly, Pete Dogherty and Kate Moss

62.       kai
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 01:53 pm

Quote:

Just a note Kai no offense, "realise" is spelled wrong.



errr I think you'll find I spelt it right :-S

63.       kai
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 01:56 pm

Quoting arabianofelix:

Maybe we should have a pig become US prez in 2008. oh im sorry, we already have one. lol



Out of all the things you wrote I had to quote this and just laugh

64.       kai
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 01:58 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting arabianofelix:

I would describe Pooh as a good-enough role model, but NOT an ideal role-model for children... it rather hinders them and prevents them from choosing other BETTER role models, more vital to us.



Well, unfortunately, you cannot CHOOSE role models for children. You may WANT them to have good role models, but the fact is you can do all you want and then they'll chose some air-head like Paris Hilton ( ) as their role model



Or more worryingly, Pete Dogherty and Kate Moss



Or even George Bush!!!

65.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 02:00 pm

Quoting kai:

errr I think you'll find I spelt it right :-S



Ahh yes you were right Kai. Teaship is from the US so she probably spells realize like this. Did you not realize TC, that the English like to economize on the z and despize such a usage lol

66.       kai
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 02:03 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting kai:

errr I think you'll find I spelt it right :-S



Ahh yes you were right Kai. Teaship is from the US so she probably spells realize like this. Did you not realize TC, that the English like to economize on the z and despize such a usage lol



Yes I did but apparantly Teaship didn't lol well actually I do spell it realize but I always got told off by my English teacher saying it is REALISE!!!

67.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 02:07 pm

Quoting kai:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting kai:

errr I think you'll find I spelt it right :-S



Ahh yes you were right Kai. Teaship is from the US so she probably spells realize like this. Did you not realize TC, that the English like to economize on the z and despize such a usage lol



Yes I did but apparantly Teaship didn't lol well actually I do spell it realize but I always got told off by my English teacher saying it is REALISE!!!



It was TC (Teaship) I was talking to! Anyway, it is traditional to use 'ise' - however, as with all our language, the English language is becoming 'Americanised' (Americanized for Teaschip ) and the Oxford English Dictionary now accepts that BOTH are acceptable - but ONLY if you consistantly use one or the other. Very wize lol!

68.       kai
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 02:15 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting kai:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting kai:

errr I think you'll find I spelt it right :-S



Ahh yes you were right Kai. Teaship is from the US so she probably spells realize like this. Did you not realize TC, that the English like to economize on the z and despize such a usage lol



Yes I did but apparantly Teaship didn't lol well actually I do spell it realize but I always got told off by my English teacher saying it is REALISE!!!



It was TC (Teaship) I was talking to! Anyway, it is traditional to use 'ise' - however, as with all our language, the English language is becoming 'Americanised' (Americanized for Teaschip ) and the Oxford English Dictionary now accepts that BOTH are acceptable - but ONLY if you consistantly use one or the other. Very wize lol!



About time too! I write in American (center instead of centre etc) it's just natural to me but it pissed my old english teacher off something chronic. lol
She also use to have a go at me for writing the date 'backwards' (i.e. 8/21/06 instead of 21/8/06) but then I said well it's not incorrect because it seems when you mentioned the twin towers you said the 9/11 and not the 11/9 she didn't argue back too!lol

69.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 02:18 pm

Well, personally I hate it. We have our own language - why are we copying a 'simplified' version? Another example of 'Dumb Britain'

70.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 03:24 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Well, personally I hate it. We have our own language - why are we copying a 'simplified' version? Another example of 'Dumb Britain'



Maybe it's to modernize for you. I believe the UK is the only that spells it modernise. Who knew? Anyhow, I just learned something new today. Thanks.

71.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 03:25 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting aenigma x:

Well, personally I hate it. We have our own language - why are we copying a 'simplified' version? Another example of 'Dumb Britain'



Maybe it's to modernize for you. I believe the UK is the only one that spells it "modernise". Who knew? Anyhow, I just learned something new today. Thanks.

72.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 03:33 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting aenigma x:

Well, personally I hate it. We have our own language - why are we copying a 'simplified' version? Another example of 'Dumb Britain'



Maybe it's to modernize for you. I believe the UK is the only one that spells it "modernise". Who knew? Anyhow, I just learned something new today. Thanks.



No its not too modern for me, but I love the English language just as it is.

73.       arabianofelix
144 posts
 31 Oct 2006 Tue 04:33 pm

Quoting gezbelle:



Erm...Winnie the Pooh was a bear...his friend Piglet is a pig...



alright. at last someone spills the water on the fire stick.
anyhow!
THE END!

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