I ve heard that too. And they say it's because Turks consider the pigs as dirty animals, so that cute little pig of pooh's company, could spoil their tv. Oh well... I hope my info is wrong.

i heard that its not a pig but an armadillo

Pigs are beautiful, intelligent creatures, but I respect other's religious beliefs...

WOOO! we have another topic to debate about I love having debates.... not arguments just peoples different opinions...gives you an insite on peoples views

Anyway......

First Piglet is a pig and that is why Winne the Pooh is band from T.V. Muslism do not eat pork either because as you see...they think they are disgusting animals that eat their own excrete etc.

To be honest I like pigs...especially when they're piglets.....sooooo cute

I wonder why Allah took the trouble to create such a "filthy, disgusting" creature?

Well Canli, I always respect your views too . I wonder though if anyone ever considers the fact that perhaps animals are NOT here for US?!!!

What is their use other than for eating? I can answer that! No animal is here for our pleasure. They are another living thing which makes up the natural beauty and balance of earth. Do we ask why ants exist? Do we ask why flies exist? They are living things, along with plants, in their own right. It is our determination to control these living things which has brought this planet into the current crisis it faces. We have destroyed the 'natural balance' of all life, by trying to control it.

I never really understood the rational for those you don't eat pork, I do understand it's a religous practice though. However, it's interesting when you start researching how other animals are raised and treated. You maybe shocked to learn that not only pigs endure unimaginable suffering in conditions of filth, crowding and confinement. This leaves me to question then why pork is restricted and other animals aren't. Maybe someone could shed some light on this for me.

I have points on both sides of this discussion. First, abstaining from eating pork was part of all three middle eastern based religions (Islam, Judism, and Christianity) At some point, Christians relaxed laws on pork much in the same way that abstaining from meat on all Fridays was reversed in the last 30 years. So the precedent here definitely predates Islam, which is the "newest" version of where are all three of these religions came from anyway.

For the people that feel that animals are not here for our consumption, realize that most domesticated animals that we eat today would have been extinct long ago through nature's survival of the fittest. Cows, pigs, sheep, etc would have been elimnated long ago by predatory animals and lack of a safe environment.

I dont want to take this thread an entirely different direction, but I want to add one last thing. If animals are treated well, before they are consumed, I dont have a problem with their utilizaation. I do feel sorry for the animals that live an "assembly line life."
But animals that live in fields, or are hunted..they dont know death is coming. I think some of the "true vegetarians" think of these animals too much in humanistic terms. I dont think there is a good way to reason to with people on either side of this. You either look at it one way or the other. "No offense to my friends the vegetarians by the way..."

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First of all I want to say that I respect anyones beliefs, but I have to put you all straight on this front (pigs)!

When I was young we kept pigs to sell for meat. I can categorically assure you they do not eat their own excrement! They used to pile it all up one end of the shed and feed at the other end of the shed.

They are an extrememly intellegent animal very close in physiology to humans - ever heard of pigs organ transplants ie, kidneys?

Getting back to the pig farm, one of the pigs was ill with meningitus (not like humans) and it could not be sent for slaughter, and me being an animal lover I looked after it. I called it Piggy and it followed me everywhere, just like a dog.

Anyway, the pig got better and it had to go for slaughter, so I never ate pork for about 15 years after, just in case it was my pig!

You must know that I want to have the last word ! I agree with you actually!!! If my survival depended on me finding my own food, I would hunt and eat a wild animal.

I certainly do not think of animals in humanistic terms. I am not sentimental. What I cannot bear is hyprocrisy. People will humanise cats and dogs but happily eat meat without giving any thought to how it was raised or killed. As far as I am concerned, if you eat meat you should ask yourself the following question:-
(1) Am I prepared to kill an animal myself. If yes, eat meat.
(2) If I am happy to eat baby animals (such as lambs or calf) then I should also be happy to eat kittens and puppies

Please dont accuse me of sentimentality. I support a group of animals (farm animals) which do not have the fluffy appeal of pets. I am an active member of 'Compassion in World Farming' and am proud to say that this internationally respected organisation have already made huge changes in the conditions, slaughter and transport of farm animals - but they have a long way to go before I can happily eat meat again.

Can I have the last word?

This animation provides an eye opening account of factory farming of animals for food consumption. There is also a "meatrix II"
http://www.freerangegraphics.com/flash/fl_meatrix.html

I do eat meat and have to say my favorite is pork, but i except everyones point of view. All i can say is If i were inviting a muslim to dinner of course i would not serve them pork out of respect.
It all comes down to people's traditions and cultures.If we have been brought up to eating cats and dogs. Then we would not think anything of eating them, but in our culture cats and dogs are domestic amimals and therefore not eaten.In france they eat horse.I could not do this, but again i respect that they do.( can i feel another topic coming on? )

I think it is turning into a traditional TC deviation........... I agree, it all boils down to culture and traditions of the country.

For instance in China they any thing that moves! Nearly literally. I have been to many restaurants where there are tanks of fish and you choose the one you want, tanks of snakes, turtles, trushed up frogs, live chickens in the cages outside, various shellfish, still live of course. Then there are the restaurants with nice pictures of cats and dogs - yes they are on the menu. I must say they do eat some rather gruesome things (to our taste anyway). I have eaten shreaded jellyfish, braised seaslug but I stear clear of the chickens feet (and believe it or not lots of them make their way from Bernard Matthews in Norfolk to China!) Has that given you an appetite?

And all because piglet is banned in Turkey, or should it be Turkia (to avoid confusion!)

Ahhh libralady you forgot guineapig is also on the menu in china too (I must say they really do eat nearly everything!)

Anyway I do eat meat (on an everyday bases nearly) but to be honest if I had to I would be able to live without it.

Some of my best friends are vegetarian which is great because they tend to love my cooking and always complementing m. so I have experience in cooking vegetarian dishes as well as meat dishes. The best part about my dishes is that they're from all different countries because I don't like to stick to one particular country's culture....I like to experiment and try new things myself Afterall the most common eaten meal in England is actually curry!

Quick quesion for vegetarians: How comes you use the term "If your willing to kill an animal then go ahead and eat it"? afterall we don't actually kill them. There already dead so wouldn't it be a waste for them to be slaughtered and not be eaten in the end?
Just a questiion that was on my mind I don'tmean it to sound offensive or anything....to be honest I think your answer will be..."If we all didn't eat meat then there will be no reason for them to be slaughtered in the first place"
So I kind of answered my own question but if it's a different answer then what is it?

(Winnie the Pooh to Food - who would have thought it shouldn't this now go into the food topic?

well, dear pigs and piglets!
what was the title of the thread?
if the pig is the only reason for the pooh to be banned then im truly sorry for the turkish stupid tv management boys.
there are lots of filthy animals in this filthy wotld of us, if we remove all of them from our tellies then we'll be left only a few animals to watch! anyway this is only a cartoon!
why does this earth still carry such stupid people on itself?
i believe monkeys would be more intelligent than those in the turkish tv top management or gov! shame on them! because, the pooh is a really good cartoon with excellent values in it for the children!
cheers

Well Femme Fatal - how we have missed your strong opinionated posts! Lucky nobody takes them too seriously. Winnie the Pooh is (please please dont forget) a beautiful book, not just a cartoon. Also, is it lack of intelligence that make the Turkish TV companies refuse to show it, or merely a respect for the beliefs of its population?

PS. There are NO filthy animals, but plenty of filthy people!

Welcome back Femme, you have been missed! Oink, Oink.

The term in the UK for such things is called "Politically Correct" normally a bunch of do-gooders actually doing no good what so ever. I could quote a few things that have been banned in the UK because they are not "politically correct" but I would be here all day! Long live the Gollywog badge from the marmalade jar!

I HOPE YOU READ THIS. ESPECIALLY PIG LOVERS!

hmmm did u just come across my favorite topic.
Dubya (Bush) is kinda favorite person to me to prank on.
anyhow, im more interested in the Winnie the Pooh thingie!

OK, so here u have argued and discussed about it.
I agree that he has such good characters and a good role model of breeding golden-hearted children. true!
and i agree with all sides, but both couldnt distinguish that the Winnie is a good guy in the wrong body, i would say, wrong animal was chosen for this character.
i grew up watching winnie the pooh as well. in fact, not long ago, for im still in my teens.
I would describe Pooh as a good-enough role model, but NOT an ideal role-model for children... it rather hinders them and prevents them from choosing other BETTER role models, more vital to us. in opinion, children who become fond of Pooh, like favorite fans, and they got pooh shoes, sweater, doll, blanket, wallpaper.... i think they grew up to be somewhat mentaly un-developed people. im not saying retarded, but they could have developed some early skills instead.

True Islam prohibits pigs, and i disagree with who here called the Turkish govt silly or stupid for this action. I disagree because it was done democratically, and no doubt that if voted upon, it would be unanimous.

Maybe we should have a pig become US prez in 2008. oh im sorry, we already have one.

HOW can u, all people use the word pig as an insult and then use Pooh the pig as a role model for children.

So when they grow, they'll simply call eachother pigs.

"Hey pig....hiya neighbor, morning Mrs. Swine"

AS FOR THOSE WHO LIKE PORK, HAM, PORK CHOPS....
read this plz, i urge u.

"Apart from the Qur'an prohibiting the consumption of pork, bacon (pig flesh); in fact the Bible too in Leviticus chapter 11, verse 8, regarding swine it says, "Of their flesh (of the swine another name for pig) shall you not eat, and of their carcass you shall not touch; they are unclean to you." Further, did you know that a pig cannot be slaughtered at the neck for it does not have a neck; that is according to its natural anatomy? A Muslim reasons that if the pig was to be slaughtered and fit for human consumption the Creator would have provided it with a neck. Nonetheless, all that aside, I am sure you are well informed about the harmful effects of the consumption of pork, in any form, be it pork chops, ham, bacon."

The medical science finds that there is a risk for various diseases as the pig is found to be a host for many parasites and potential diseases.

Yunus: Yes, even apart from that, as we talked about uric acid content in the blood, it is important to note that the pig's biochemistry excretes only 2% of its total uric acid content, the remaining 98% remains as an integral part of the body.

http://discover.islamway.com/articles.php?article_id=39&lang=1

Well, personally I hate it. We have our own language - why are we copying a 'simplified' version? Another example of 'Dumb Britain'