Yeah, these are the formal requirements for citizenship of another country which can be understood in different ways. One is that when a person lives in a certain place, that person should try to contribute to well being of that community (and this is what I believe in). Another way to understand this "requirement of loyalty" is that a person is supposed to be loyal to the government, its policies or to some official stance on specific issues (like the ban on talking about the Armenian "genocide" or oppression of Kurds, or insulting "Turkishness"). And this is pretty much what dictatorships do and it is oppression and violence of freedom.

Catwoman you know very well what I meant when I wrote loyalty to homeland in that topic that needed to be removed.

We have a problem in out homeland. There is a terrorist organisation that wants to separate a part of our land. They give names to that part. On maps they show it divided from our country. They gives names to regions in that part. They give names to cities. They use a so-called flag. They even choose the so-called fictional majors for those places. They use those fictional foreign city names in their songs. They are the same people who fight agains the state.

It is not a matter of supporting Turkishness or not. It is just a simple citizenship requirement to be respectfull to your homeland. This means that you cant support the terrorists and use the same language as them, use the same fictional country, region, city names as them and them expect to get away with that.

What we expect from our Kurdish origin citizens is that they simply are respectfull to the state, the law, the government and they don't support terrorist organizations that want to separate a part of our homeland. What has that to do with Turkishness?

While you know very well that I was referring to terrorist supporters I fail to understand why you would argue against something that I wrote.

Of course being a citizen of a country means being loyal to that country.

Of course terrorism is a different story, I was being generic in my answer. However... there's also an issue of oppression, which gives people the right to rebel against the state.
I didn't mean to argue with you Erdinc, I only wanted to reply to the statement that "citizenship obligates loyalty".

There isn't really. I have lived many years in those areas. Anybody who considers himself a Turkish citizens and shows the least respect to the country (by not using a different flag, by not using a different country name, by not using a different city name, by not carrying pictures of terrorist leader, etc.) is never oppressed.

The musician we were talking about uses the same language as the terrorists. Basically he makes songs to be listened by the terrorists on terror camps. He uses the same fictional names. He makes songs about a country that does not exists but that they want to create by taking a part of our land.

There is a huge difference between making Kurdish songs and making songs that support separationalist terrorists. We have nothing against Kurdish language or culture. You can be a Turkish citizen with Kurdish ethnical origin. In fact there are many who live happly like that.

On the other hand being a terrorist supporter and being understanding to terrorist supporters is not something we can tolerate and should not something you do either.

I dont want to join this discussion. But I just want to remind a few things relating to names of cities/towns/villages in Turkey:
Since the begining of the republic of Turkey, we have changed nearly 30.000 names (may be more).

We know that Tunceli was Dersim or Kırklareli was kirkkilise for example.

Many names, specially after 1957, have been changed because for one reason or another. All names, which had 'Kürt, Gürcü, Tatar, Çerkez, Laz, Arap, muhacir' words in them have been changed.

I think, one of the reason was those names were not found as part of Turkish culture.

Basically, in last 50 years, 35% of the village names have been changed in Turkey.

where are u from Handsome? in turkey? u dont say anything about ur hometown. I always say Im from black sea...