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30 Apr 2007 Mon 06:48 pm |
My family do not like the idear of me going over to turkey for a Turkish guy. They seem to think it will never work it was a holiday romance and they say that he probably just wants money. This makes me pretty mad as i would like support on my choices. I have no one to talk to about this, is anyone on the same boat???
Sarah
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 07:12 pm |
As a hot headed 17 year I would have been the same as you, and defied my family - but on the other hand, as a parent I would be the same as your parents. So there is no easy answer.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 07:20 pm |
you will understand em better when you been a parent,so its early to understand em for you
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 07:25 pm |
This situation has happened to 2 of my friends and unfortunatly...her parents were right. One of the guys acted as if he was in the hospital and somehow fell in love with her after a holiday romance and then was asking her for money. It's unfortunate...but why can't he come see you?
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 07:36 pm |
I know he doesn't have that much money, he offered to give me money a couples of times and i didn't take it. I also make it clear that i don't have any money to give him and he doesn't ask. I understand my parents concern but also my parents do not want to let me go. I love Turkey, am not planning on moving for good i just want to enjoy the experience.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 07:40 pm |
thats such a bad to mention about money while talking about love,but pity love sometime look likes a monster,so it needs careful attention
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 07:50 pm |
Quoting sweet.kane: My family do not like the idear of me going over to turkey for a Turkish guy. They seem to think it will never work it was a holiday romance and they say that he probably just wants money. This makes me pretty mad as i would like support on my choices. I have no one to talk to about this, is anyone on the same boat???
Sarah
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before 20 yeares old, love makes u fly,when u are older love make u think all u have such as family,friends,money( that s so important)
I have respect to your choice
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 08:04 pm |
Quoting sweet.kane: My family do not like the idear of me going over to turkey for a Turkish guy. They seem to think it will never work it was a holiday romance and they say that he probably just wants money. This makes me pretty mad as i would like support on my choices. I have no one to talk to about this, is anyone on the same boat???
Sarah
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My situation is just the opposite. The mother of my fianceé does not want her to leave Türkiye and come to USA. She thinks that she will never see her daughter again because a foreigner has taken her away. I tried to assure her that I am one of those foreigners who fell in love with Türkiye, the people, and the kültür and would eventually move there once I have saved up enough money, but unfortunately, it appears as just fancy words to her.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 08:10 pm |
So what we going to do?!
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 08:21 pm |
If you don't think it's going to last or if you're early into the relationship, I'd say spare yourself of the heartbreak. It's really hard to be in that kind of relationship.
I also met a guy and my parents were against it for the same reasons as yours but went ahead with it anyway because I had a strong belief in us. We're married today
Unfortunately most of these relationships are doomed, but not all.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:05 pm |
It is unfortunately not enough to be'in love', there is so much more to consider - I would say get to know each other very well first - there is no difference in finding love in your own country - just have to be more committed and more patient I guess.
You have to try to be understanding with your parents - they are just worried for you I am sure.
Time will tell if you are suited and to give you a better insight into what it might be like in actually living together - you will need to visit each other in your respective countries to see how each one interacts with the others family and friends - you might find that you do not feel the same when you have spent more time together.
Anyway good luck and take it slowly and just see it goes
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 09:34 pm |
For every 100 relationships 80 % will go by the way side. The differance in culture, language and religion is hard enough. Not being able to converse presents a huge problem as lots of the time misunderstanding is construed. The majorıty don't have the English sense of humour !!!!!
İ wish everyone success but from one who know's be very careful, weight up all the options before making a huge commitment or mistake.
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:13 pm |
Unfortunately Marriage by love relationships Unsuccessful today
becouse the love is gone , only still its imagination
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:26 pm |
Quoting elham: Unfortunately Marriage by love relationships Unsuccessful today
becouse the love is gone , only still its imagination |
My take on that is that if it's real love it will last no matter what. Regrettably it's not very common in todays society.
But what kind of marriages do you think will last then?
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:53 pm |
I believe that traditional marriages succeed more than marriage by love, as evidenced by marriage of parents who is grow
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30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:59 pm |
Quoting elham: I believe that traditional marriages succeed more than marriage by love, as evidenced by marriage of parents who is grow |
My parents were married 45 years (then my dad died so it ended) but out of love. No-one, especially not my grandparents, interfered. I'm talking about 1950, in the days my country was very confessional and conservative. So to say that tradititional (arranged??) marriages have more success is not true. And this is just one example, I know plenty of them.
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01 May 2007 Tue 12:05 am |
Quoting elham: I believe that traditional marriages succeed more than marriage by love, as evidenced by marriage of parents who is grow |
In my opinion it is a breach of human rights! You should be able to marry who you want. It is up to the persons to make it succeed. Arranged marriage is outdated.
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01 May 2007 Tue 12:24 am |
Quoting libralady:
In my opinion it is a breach of human rights! You should be able to marry who you want. It is up to the persons to make it succeed. Arranged marriage is outdated. |
In my opinion marriage itself is a breach of human rights! You should be able to live with, without marrying, whom you want. It is up to the persons to make it succeed. Marriage is outdated.
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01 May 2007 Tue 01:48 am |
I think that one should carefully consider the family you are going to marry into and vice versa. Unfortunately, the families can make or break a marriage.
Most importantly, take your time!!!! Really get to know each other. Bi-racial/cultural/language are HUGE! Often two people of similar backgrounds don't understand each other. So don't fool yourself into believing that love solves all. You lose that 'in love' feeling after 2 years according to a study i read. (I will look for it to give you the link) But, if you persist in the relationship you will fall back in love again and at a higher level. So, relationships/marriage take lots of committement(did i spell that right?) Oh well...too lazy for dictionary now. But you must make sure that their level of dedication matches yours. Everybody says 'until death do us part'. Make sure they know what they are getting into and you too!!!! So, have clear boundaries and goals...
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01 May 2007 Tue 01:58 am |
Quoting Capoeira: I think that one should carefully consider the family you are going to marry into and vice versa. Unfortunately, the families can make or break a marriage.
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Oh do I know this statement is all to true! I have been in a war concerning "family" for 3 years now, and a small piece of advice is if your parents opinion is really important to you, don't even go there. It's probably not worth the headache, and chances are if you have enough money to be vacationing in turkey u have enough money for this guy and he surely can see that.
Capo that link would be much appreciated I'd like to check it out
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01 May 2007 Tue 03:29 am |
Quoting Capoeira: -- committement(did i spell that right?) Oh well...too lazy for dictionary now. |
Commitment -- but I think you know that already
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01 May 2007 Tue 04:56 am |
Quoting bliss: Quoting Capoeira: -- committement(did i spell that right?) Oh well...too lazy for dictionary now. |
Commitment -- but I think you know that already |
Thanks Bliss!!! Was writing after only 3 hours of sleep in the last 48hrs. Finals are here. I'll be done Thursday...that is if I can keep my eyes open long enough!!
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01 May 2007 Tue 09:02 am |
Capo, good luck with your exams!
Your English is perfect, I know that well .
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01 May 2007 Tue 11:31 am |
Am not so sure we should judge a book by the cover. I know some Turks want British women for money, but i also know British women go on holiday for sex.
I respect my parents thoughts but there comes a time in life when you have to grow up and live your own life. I have different views on life than them.
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01 May 2007 Tue 01:15 pm |
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01 May 2007 Tue 01:35 pm |
18 wow that's young, but 11 years later. See it can happen. Am not saying we are going to get married, giving up a home or giving up a family i just simply met someone and i take each day as it comes. I love my parents but i don't want to get to their age and look back at my life and wonder what if.
x
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01 May 2007 Tue 02:06 pm |
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01 May 2007 Tue 04:04 pm |
Quoting sweet.kane: Am not so sure we should judge a book by the cover. I know some Turks want British women for money, but i also know British women go on holiday for sex.
I respect my parents thoughts but there comes a time in life when you have to grow up and live your own life. I have different views on life than them. |
Well I think you have made your mind up already, and are wanting to hear a big "Go for it girl" wich is perfectly fine and we all want to hear that in times of contemplation, so here it is..... Go for it girl!!! And good luck to you
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01 May 2007 Tue 05:53 pm |
"you can only but try, if it doesn't work then move on"
If it works it works, it doesn't it doesn't either way i will post my story here.
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02 May 2007 Wed 08:43 am |
Quoting Quasimodo: In my opinion marriage itself is a breach of human rights! You should be able to live with, without marrying, whom you want. It is up to the persons to make it succeed. Marriage is outdated. |
This is coming from the man who has proposed to nearly every woman on this site???
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02 May 2007 Wed 02:37 pm |
Quoting girleegirl:
This is coming from the man who has proposed to nearly every woman on this site??? |
You know, warriors do have and in fact should have some strategies, and spiders, web; so that they could capture whomever they regard as a enemy or a bait.
panta rei
(Also known as:
cyrano
cyrano the Great
muskeeter the Great
romantic poet
AllTooHuman
The teacher of Alexander The Little
Quasimodo
The prince of Notre-Dome
The warrior the Great)
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02 May 2007 Wed 04:38 pm |
When I just met my (ex)boyfriend we didn't even talk about moving there or anything. I was only concerned with going there on holiday again . I think you shouldn't be talking about all that stuff yet when you only just met.. it just takes time with long distance relationships!
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02 May 2007 Wed 05:24 pm |
But I don't see there's any reason in starting the relationship in the first place if it's not going to lead anywhere.
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02 May 2007 Wed 06:16 pm |
That's true it does take time and hard work when it comes to long distance. I say that i like to hope that it leads into to a future because its hard. If not then i put it down to experience.
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12 Jul 2007 Thu 05:34 am |
Quoting sweet.kane: My family do not like the idear of me going over to turkey for a Turkish guy. They seem to think it will never work it was a holiday romance and they say that he probably just wants money. This makes me pretty mad as i would like support on my choices. I have no one to talk to about this, is anyone on the same boat???
Sarah
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Hi, Sarah, My name is Kat, and I'm in a VERY similar situation as you. I met my boyfriend when I was overseas in Iraq, and he was there as a Turkish translator of a contracting company. We were together for the year that I was over there, and decided that we were going to be together.
I live in the US and he lives in Adana. When he went back home from Iraq, he had to join the Turkish military, that was last May. We've kept in touch the entire time, and he'll be finishing his 15 months in August. I have a 2-year old son, and don't have much money on my own, so when he gets out of the military, he's going back to Iraq to make enough money to fly us to Turkey, where we will be married.
My mother hates the idea of us being together. i can't even say his name, or "my boyfriend" to her. she feels that he just wants his green card, blah, blah, blah, i've heard it all. But the biggest problem is that he's Muslim, and as far as she knows all Muslims are "terrorists", which i think is one of the most ignorant misconcepts someone can have. But anyway, I love him, we will be married and have beautiful black and Turkish babies.
Follow your heart, girl. and if you need some strength, I have plenty to share! Send me a PM.
Kat
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15 Jul 2007 Sun 07:46 pm |
Quoting sweet.kane: My family do not like the idear of me going over to turkey for a Turkish guy. They seem to think it will never work it was a holiday romance and they say that he probably just wants money. This makes me pretty mad as i would like support on my choices. I have no one to talk to about this, is anyone on the same boat???
Sarah
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if you marry him he'll get a greencard and thats what he wants probably
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15 Jul 2007 Sun 08:02 pm |
Quoting lastfinalwords:
if you marry him he'll get a greencard and thats what he wants probably |
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15 Jul 2007 Sun 09:23 pm |
Quoting sweet.kane: Am not so sure we should judge a book by the cover. I know some Turks want British women for money, but i also know British women go on holiday for sex.
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sweet=kane, did you miss the word "" some "" out from between the words Know and British????
I go on holiday to Turkey because of the beautiful country and it people.
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15 Jul 2007 Sun 09:31 pm |
Quoting christine: Quoting sweet.kane: Am not so sure we should judge a book by the cover. I know some Turks want British women for money, but i also know British women go on holiday for sex.
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sweet=kane, did you not miss the word ""some"" out from between the some,British women????
I go on holiday to turkey because i love the country,people and its history. |
+1000000000
Also, the women who "go just for sex" will never be seen on this website because they literally go for sex I guess, and don't make the mistake of forming a relationship with these men, thus no translations or Turkish lessons required!
Besides...some "books" have been read by so many people before you...you already know what's in them without having to open it. I think we are qualified to judge these men by their "reviews"
(ouhhhh I made myself laugh )
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:13 pm |
I am dating a Turkish man, of course by internet as of now.
I am planning on making a visit in September. We are getting serious..
He is 24 and I am almost 30. He says is a virgin and has never kissed. Is this normal for a Turkish man?
I believe him but there is a part of me that doesn't maybe because of my culture. I am from the U.S.
He wants me to meet his family. At first he said later we can meet now he wants me to meet them. I have read some forums about when a Turkish man wants you to meet the family means the relationship is serious.
If anyone has any info or advise please let me know...
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:22 pm |
hehe,you found a virgin man and still some questions,go ahead never leave his hands from urs
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:24 pm |
Quoting MrX67: hehe,you found a virgin man and still some questions,go ahead never leave his hands from urs |
Its quite possible in Turkey....however, if you find out he is NOT a virgin on your wedding night you can send him straight back home to his parents!
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:26 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: hehe,you found a virgin man and still some questions,go ahead never leave his hands from urs |
Its quite possible in Turkey....however, if you find out he is NOT a virgin on your wedding night you can send him straight back home to his parents!  |
so don't forget white sheet for first night
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:28 pm |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: hehe,you found a virgin man and still some questions,go ahead never leave his hands from urs |
Its quite possible in Turkey....however, if you find out he is NOT a virgin on your wedding night you can send him straight back home to his parents!  |
so don't forget white sheet for first night |
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:31 pm |
Quoting MrX67: so don't forget white sheet for first night |
You will have to ask MrX67 to check it for you!
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:33 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: so don't forget white sheet for first night |
You will have to ask MrX67 to check it for you!  |
a new business for MrX67?
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:37 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: so don't forget white sheet for first night |
You will have to ask MrX67 to check it for you!  |
seems your all kindness on you again as always aenigma
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:41 pm |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: so don't forget white sheet for first night |
You will have to ask MrX67 to check it for you!  |
seems your all kindness on you again as always aenigma |
Of course!
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:44 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting MrX67: so don't forget white sheet for first night |
You will have to ask MrX67 to check it for you!  |
seems your all kindness on you again as always aenigma |
Of course! |
but i think this much kindness more then enough,thats really hard to believe that how come
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:46 pm |
If he is not a Virgin I am not too worried because I myself am not. I have been with 3 people... I have 2 children and he knows this. He wants a family and wants to be a part of my childrens life. I just couldn't believe that someone so handsome and sweet never had a girlfriend???
Having children and dating I have to be very carefull and cuasious who I am with. I just want the best man for me and my kids.
My soon to be ex husband drinks and does drugs often and spends more time with his friends than his family.
I prayed that I would meet someone that doesn't drink and wants a family life and that is when I met Durmus online.
It wasn't that I was looking, I actually was chatting for people who wanted to work from home and he popped up and we started talking from that point on.
I look for signs of what path I need to be on in life.
My soon to be ex husband was in the Navy and he actually visited Turkey. He took this wonderful picture and I just fell in love with it. I never knew where it was from and after I started talking with Durmus I was going through my pictures and came across that one I fell in love with and I turned it over and on the back it said "Sunrise Turkey"
We have this ashtray that is pretty neat looking and I asked my soon to be ex where he got it from and he said "Turkey"
I am looking at all the signs of fate too.
I am weird, yes I know but I haven't been wrong on my preminissions and feelings that much.
Thanks for all your advises.
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:49 pm |
Good luck Melissa
And if you need MrX67 just go to www.X67sheetcheck.com !
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 05:50 pm |
you guys are funny!!! I appreciate your honesty and help!
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 06:10 pm |
i had a turkish bf and broke up with recently...th reason?...he is only good when he's in need of something..and up to this very moment he's bothering me...i dont speak in genereal, cuz i know a lot of turkish guy who are really sincere..
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 06:12 pm |
Quoting yildiz:
i had a turkish bf and broke up with recently...th reason?...he is only good when he's in need of something..and up to this very moment he's bothering me...i dont speak in genereal, cuz i know a lot of turkish guy who are really sincere.. |
Did you meet him on holiday Yildiz, or online?
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16 Jul 2007 Mon 06:15 pm |
Quoting yildiz:
i had a turkish bf and broke up with recently...th reason?...he is only good when he's in need of something..and up to this very moment he's bothering me...i dont speak in genereal, cuz i know a lot of turkish guy who are really sincere.. |
Good for you standing up for yourself, and yes there are many wonderful Turkish men but if you aren't Turkish it doesn't matter how wonderful they are the odds if it lasting are slim
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 06:51 am |
Quoting melissa30: I am dating a Turkish man, of course by internet as of now.
I am planning on making a visit in September. We are getting serious..
He is 24 and I am almost 30. He says is a virgin and has never kissed. Is this normal for a Turkish man?
I believe him but there is a part of me that doesn't maybe because of my culture. I am from the U.S.
He wants me to meet his family. At first he said later we can meet now he wants me to meet them. I have read some forums about when a Turkish man wants you to meet the family means the relationship is serious.
If anyone has any info or advise please let me know...
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Just because a turkish man wants you to meet his family doesn't always mean that he is serious about the relationship. I speak from experience because I too was in your situation once with my first turkish husband and like you I also met him online and he also wanted for me to meet his family which made me think that he was serious. Of course his true intentions did not come out until after a year into the marriage and all he wanted was a Green Card!
Now my second turkish husband was an abusive one, but I will not get into details on that one!
As for him being a virgin, I highly doubt it being that most of these men are nothing but horny b.....ds! so there's his first lie there!
Melissa, you're just coming out of a bad marriage and it's too soon to get into another relationship, especially one you just met on the internet. Give it more time, right now you have yourself and your children to think about. I can't say that he may turn out to be Prince Charming or not, but I would get to know him first and see what his real intentions are? Good luck to you and your children.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 11:52 am |
...............Melissa, you're just coming out of a bad marriage and it's too soon to get into another relationship, especially one you just met on the internet. Give it more time, right now you have yourself and your children to think about. I can't say that he may turn out to be Prince Charming or not, but I would get to know him first and see what his real intentions are? Good luck to you and your children'......
Abso-bloomin-lutely!!!! don't be in a hurry to make another mistake- you are still young and have plenty of opportunity to meet 'Mr. Right' don't be 'taken in' by charm and supposed naievity- good luck to you and your children.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 01:01 pm |
BAGLASAN DA DURMAZ DANAYI, GIDER BULUR ANAYI.
Old Turkish Proverb
My advice is win back the hearts of parents on both sides...now.
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 06:29 pm |
Quoting AlphaF: BAGLASAN DA DURMAZ DANAYI, GIDER BULUR ANAYI.
Old Turkish Proverb
My advice is win back the hearts of parents on both sides...now. |
ok, great advice, but what if you can't?? What then? Screw the relationship? Does every relationship in Turkey have to work out in the parents favor? So extremely unfair.... what if the parents are racist and stubborn?
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 06:44 pm |
Quoting karekin04: .... what if the parents are racist and stubborn? |
Impossible Karekin, Turkey does not have racism....
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22 Jul 2007 Sun 06:51 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting karekin04: .... what if the parents are racist and stubborn? |
Impossible Karekin, Turkey does not have racism.... |
oh right, please forgive me
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 04:45 am |
Thank you all for your advice. I am still up in the air about things.
I would really like to go to Turkey and see him but I want to have the experience of seeing another country and a beautiful one like Turkey.
I know coming out of a bad relationship and hopping into the next one isn't good. The way that I look at it is I need time to myself. I have been raising these kids pretty much on my own.
I do need some me time and if I don't take care of myself then I wont be able to take care of my children.
So, if I go, and it doesn't work out at least I got to experience Turkey and have a week long fling!!hehe
No that is not what I am all about.
Again, Thanks for your insights
Maybe there is no racism but there is unfairness. When someone tells you that you are too old to date my son or because you are not Turkish you can't see him anymore to me there is being judgement of character and someone having a closed mind.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 06:04 am |
Why is this racism? If I had a son that was marrying a woman much older than himself, I would also try to prevent it. Not to harm the woman, but to protect my son. Marraige is hard enough as it is. This age difference will at some point become a negative to a marraige. Its just not smart. I agree with whoever said it earlier. Focus on your kids and don't fantasize about a fantasy romance on the other side of the globe.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 06:12 am |
Quoting KeithL: If I had a son that was marrying a woman much older than himself, I would also try to prevent it. Not to harm the woman, but to protect my son. |
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 06:50 am |
You can make a face, but what is wrong with protecting your children? If you think they are making a mistake, you have to tell them.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 07:08 am |
Quoting KeithL: You can make a face, but what is wrong with protecting your children? If you think they are making a mistake, you have to tell them. |
Well, as a parent, I think the best thing you can do is support your child and let him decide who he wants to marry. You can talk to your son about it, but trying to prevent it is more like controlling who he should marry. I don't see why the age is so fundamentally harmful to the marriage, why is it ok then for men to be older? Anyways, that's my opinion.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 12:49 pm |
my mum is totally opposite she never has a bad word to say about my turkish boyfriend. if i find something wrong she convinces me nothing is wrong with him. it sometimes feels like she is sticking up for him just thought i would express my situation
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29 Jul 2007 Sun 10:15 pm |
"carpe diem!!!"
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