could someone please enlighten me as to why most of the turkish guys working in holiday resorts are so desperate to be with an english woman...and also use them to buy them clothes gifts etc.... i go to turkey a lot and had what i thought was a really nice turkish boyfriend, however on a recent trip i realised i didnt as he became extremely violent towards me.

Ouh! We have debated this (sometimes very heatedly!) on this Forum. Do a search on this site for 'Turkish Men' ...ama ama....please dont lets start this discussion again!

ok thanks aenigma...

Don't get me started on this one too

i take it this is a touchy subject then...thanks anyway

I'm trying to find the thread for you
Then you can draw your own conclusion.

thank you very much

traditional Turkish men one of most gentle of all world,and theyprefer to give then to get ,so i think thats about extrem Turkish men????

I still think Turkish men are just wonderful - but i also had a nasty experience with a turk who claimed to be so much in love with me - until i closed my hand with the money !!! then he also became agressive and ice cold and even said things that hurt me so much.

men are always the same. go head and read Freud!!!!!!!

please do not trust men

hey,men are same in all around the world,there are bad and good so you should look at men who live in your own country. you have a brain,if you meet and trust a man who has bad behavior,it is your mistake, not Turkish men's. sometimes I see translatios about money transfer from a girl to her lover in Turkey;,it is absolutely madness...I think your love depend on money,it is your false as men's...

Where is my topic about magandas. It would suit well here.

I agree- this has nothing to do with "Turkish men". In every society, in every culture, there are vultures who prey on the naiive. But it takes two to tango.

You can only be taken advantage of if you allow yourself to be.

In the USA, there is an equal number of men who seek out naiive women for personal pleasure.

Many men (and I believe an equal number of women) do not have solid morals. They seek to exploit the moment, and money, sex, etc...

If you don't engage, you can't be taken advantage of...

ok,i've found it,sorry,it wasn't at off the topics.
Lesson Learned

Looks like kadersokak is trying to share with us a piece of wisdom and truth he learnt from his own life and/or experience but women are resistant to believe him, despite the obvious morale of the story about "turkish/resort men" . There aren't women complaining about the guys they met in their churches/universities/poetry clubs... etc, but about the guys they meet on vacation, so looks like kadersokak's wisdom is in the right place!
Anyways, it's sometimes weird to see how some people are desparately trying to defend men saying "don't generalize, not all men are the same...", what if THERE IS some truth in the generalizations??? Maybe we should actually learn something from them instead of sticking to the fantasy about an ideal world/people. Haven't we read enough stories about the "dark side of turkish love" to get the point?

the problem is related to manner actually. men living in Turkish cities lack of urban culture. that is the problem. they stare at women. for example in western countries people smile each other in the street. but this is not common in turkey. i remember once a tourist girl on the beach smiled a turkish worker and that male worker interpreted that sime as if she wants him and then he tried to rape her. I saw this in the news. the ruralization of the cities is a serious problem in turkey and it had started in 1950s when the last armenian, greek and other minority groups who had an urban culture left the Turkish cities and those people coming from rural areas replaced them. orhan pamuk mentions this in his book "istanbul: memoirs and the city".

Orhan Pamuk can not know turkish ppl, he grew in mansion not in villages. he is only speaking for istanbul. every cosmopolitan cities are have same problems. in Anatolia ppl smiles each other and do more than this. they love to help each other and when they see a foreigner they invite their home and try to entertain. if you go a turkia village you will se the hospitable turkish ppl, they serve what they have in kitchen and give the best place to sleep for guests. you will think it was in the past but no it s same now too. you should see how ppl live in Anatolia. I always travel all over the Turkey coz of my job and see loving and hospitable turkish ppl.

Long time i stay away from here.. but you girls (some here) really sick...i would like to say it loudly and proudly....If you not show urass no 1 ll do bad thngs to u in turkey...if you respct everybody ll respct to u..whn i work in marmaris as a animation team.. i see many european lady who is married wich are young around 16 17 years old.. only find turkish men fo sex.. who ask ya to spend money fo man?you got no brain? if you not do anytng wrong why turkish man ll ask money from you to buy smtng? pls dont talk full of shit here bfre know anytng..if you wanna deptade smtng everybody here wanna listen clear..i ll be great listener.. but no bullshit..im not rude..i jst say wht i wanna say..coz boring to hear all those shit all the time.. why pple say engglish girl like tht? did ya ask yourcountry girls?is not only english fo all europea ladies in resort plce turkish man thnk about sex?wht make them think like tht?did ya ask yourslf?if ya not show anytn the turkish ll be so gentle fo u..yes i agree some is bad their mind only got 1 small thng wht u got inside urpanties..but you cant say tht all turkish men like tht even in resort plce..

the dogs alwys haw haw till see the buut..after take it wont haw haw anymore..so pple shut urmouth and dont talk bad about all turkish ...look yourcountry and urown people.. wthout know anytng dnt talk bullshit..(i not saying all those who open this post..i saying who dunno anytng and post smtng .)

i only wanna say tht ...
in life there are going to be some thngs..thats going to make it hard to smile..but wtver you do.. thougt all the rain and the pain..you got ursense of humor you got you smile now..

im not sayin i gonna Chnge tha worLd.. But will spark to chnge tha world...

i got many friend from europea.. even in this forum got many nice european ladies.. but i never said they all same like wich are came to resort fo sex..or others.. whn i talk to them they are really so elegant and nice to me..

this is not relatied culture..but if you said tht..i give you 1 example..Last year 3 english guy came to istanbul fo holiday..which plce wrte do not sit.. they try to sit..they go mosque they make fun inside the holy plce..they jump.. do you thnk tht is good? but i still not say all english gy like tht..but people getting crzy whn europea gonna teach us smtng..coz they got nthng to teach..so many ladies from europea wich are drunk a lot and find turkish men fo sex..but a few girls come here and say turkish men only thnk european ladies fo sex.. dont teach they wont thnk about sex.. its so easy to understnd..they dunno how to respct but wait respct..

I agree with both Rain and Nor4e. People treat you in the same manner that you treat them. If you are polite, they are too. If you are offensive, they will become too. If you are looking for sex, they will somehow give it to you. And I don't believe a thing about 'innocent' european girls who were taken to bed by turkish resort workers.

I spent 11 days at Antalya, killing time at the beach most of the day, all alone and the only thing I have to say, is that I adored the stuff there. They approached me at first, by asking me if i need anything, asking where I was from, etc. I was quite friendly and polite to them and for 11 days, they were treating me like a queen, bringing me tea, coffee, ice cubes every 15 minutes and watching my bag while I was in the sea, not to be stolen. The dj was dedicating greek songs to me and Antalya had never heard so many songs of Remos (greek singer) before . The day I was leaving, they filled my bag with cds and tapes, to remember them and their beautiful city. No one ever offended me, or made me feel uncomfortable. At the same time, I was seeing them in .... tender moments with other foreign girls. So, it's not the guys working there. It's us and what we ask from them. They are just willing to...satisfy our needs

Like you said sophie...if people want they ll come and ask you... where u come from wht u like etc..till they feel u want it.. they ll try to bring you room.. thts it..but if you not treat them fo sex..i dont belive tht they ll rape to you

i living in malaysia..and i saw many asian people their culture..i respct.. But i miss mycountry and mypeople if ya ask why..coz they are really so friendly..great history and culture..some 1 say fo other cities in turkey they are so poor or no educated ..but i can say tht those people more respctfull and stdy in life univercty more clever thn city life people.. even i grow up in istanbul..i cnt be like them..
People are same..wherevr you go..if you are good be sure u ll have nice ...if you thnk bad sure u ll get bad..its up to you..

This thread it like a scratched recorded - keeps repeating it self and is incredibly boring!

By the way..orhan pamuk such a lair..he can sell his country coz of money of chair..he got no character...dunno who control his mind to do and say all this,,.

This is just too simplistic.
Some men prey on women.
Some women prey on men.
And it just so happens that turkish beach resports are just one of many places in the world that this occurs.
Single people go on holiday and put themselves in the frame of mind to fall in love and unfortunately be taken advantage of.
I can honestly say this almost happened to me my first visit to brussels back in 1990. But, that is another story...

My ex boyfriend is a Turk and he turnt out to be not the guy I thought he was(lets just say he is now serving 8 years in prison) but that does not mean I don't trust Turkish men...infact I have some wonderful friends who are male Turks and one in particular is very nice and when we were talking he was talking about how much he loved his wife and two kids.

Also there was this women from the UK who moved to Turkey to live with her husband and she shared a very small house with his very large family but after a few years they were able to get place of their own and she said she has never been happier (they have been married now for 10 years) and his feelings were just the same.

Also I know someone who has been dating a Turk for over a year now and when I see him all he can talk about is her...rather annoying but incredibly loyal and sweet

So it just goes to show that not all Turkish men are after one thing and disrepectful to women!! I also agree it is sometimes the womens fault too...they can be just as bad!

But hey if your willing to take the risk then prepare, for there might be consequences at the end of it!

İ come to think that posting the link wasn't enough,i ought to copy and paste all the posts in the other thread as well,lol

Maybe then we can be logical and reach same conclusion.

There are goods and bads every where,in men,in women,in Turkia,in UK,every where,maybe were in Mars too,lol

@ Canli ve Aenigma

Drum, bang, drum, bang, drum bang.......................... (why is there no yawning smilie?)

Hey I have just had a thought, no men - life stops

the art it to get them to do what you want not do what they want (anyone want lessons contact www.voiceofexperience.com)

Well,the idea of no women ,life STOP
satisfying my ego better,lol

Canli and Libralady - we should STOP posting on this thread in the hope that it becomes 'buried' under a few translation posts !

I just can't do this again. Its driving me C R A Z Y!!!!!!!

(zipped mouth) last word

Şıııttttt Posting a sneaky lol @ aenigma. and lips are sealed now....errrrmmm ok trying..lol

rotfl @ libralady
And i need to rotfl now ,,lol

Ok that was a sneaky rotfl too,lol now you can be the last ..lol

To all you turkish men - I hope some of us ladies have brought a bit of humour back to lighten this thread!! (and we dont all think the same )

Hear Hear! Hic

Last word

Drakenskloof Pinotage 15% (what 15%??)

Thinking,how many words,can count to be last word ? lol

it is time to stop talkin about men/woman..

May i ask something seriously now ? ''borrowing a serious tone,maybe from the news or something,lol''

What is the percentage of young men working in the resorts,to all men living in Türkiye ?
Can you really,logically use this to judge all men in Türkiye ?!
Even is own experience enough to judge about 40 million person,if not more ?!

Last word..lol

no,not 40 million,80 million turkish young men work there...

Ok i have a suggestion,make a new thread at off the topic,and call it Men İn Resorts.

We have many nationalities here,and people who travelled alot,so i'm curious to know how about men in other countries who work at resorts,are they all angels ?!

How about women too ?!

new topic is blacksea's men

subject is blacksea's men not from resorts

Black Sea people are imaginative, quick, agile and humorous. According to some people, these aspects stem from the district they live in and the anchovies they like most. Black Sea people are also hospitable. The jokes highlight all the aspects black sea people have.

Temel is a proper name in Turkish. But it is more than a name. Temel represent black-sea people, their intelligence and their joyful life.
a blacksea s joke



One day Temel came to Istanbul and got into a boat from Haydarpasa. While they were sailing, the boat started to shake and Temel's suitcase fell into the water.
An old fisherman said," If you were careful enough, this would not have happened. What will you do now?"

Temel answered in a quiet way, " Do not worry, the keys are still with me."

GOING TO THE SUN
Temel and Idris went to the White House to see Bill Clinton to make an important suggestion. Although the police wanted to block their way, they succeeded in reaching Mr.Clinton. Bill Clinton was bewildered by this commotion and asked:
-"What is the matter?"
Then Temel replied:
-"We have got an idea but we want your support!"
-"What is your idea?"
-"First of all you must agree to give us your support"
-"I do not know anything about your idea. How can I support you?"
-"It is not important. Promise us! Rely on us!"
-"Alright! Say! What is your idea?"
-"We are going to the sun!"
-What?"
-"We will go to the sun if you give us the necessary money and a spaceship!"
-"It is not possible to go there!"
-"But we have got an idea. We will go there at night!"

lol,omg,we have a similar one,
A guy from south,was travelling with his friend to the north,and got all his money in a safe,
They rode a bus,and over slept there,
When they wake up,they found,they've been robbed,the thief took the safe away,
His friend shouted Müstafe,the safe,you've been robbed,
He smiled and said cool it,don't worry,he may stole the safe,but i still got the key, lol

Lapinkulta,
Can you translate your jokes to Türkçe please ?

should not the joke be temel and fadime?