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30 Nov 2006 Thu 09:40 pm |
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Hi...does anybody know what the city Batman is like?? I am going there for 2weeks to stay with my boyfriend and his family, but will they accept me? How different is things there from tourist areas, can we still walk down the street holiding hands? Thanks =]
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 09:49 pm |
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 09:52 pm |
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oh right thanks...well my boyfriend lives there with his family and he says its ok, my dad comes from Siirt and apparently that is very bad!! but they are next door. I know quite a few people from Batman, but am a bit apprehensive as i won't have any of my own family around, just my boyfriends!! Im also worried i wont be able to do anything because of their religion views women. Thanks for that advise...looks like most of my holiday will be spent sleeping hehe not 2 bad!! Im moving to Icmeler in June so im really looking foward to that =]
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 09:57 pm |
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Quoting GinaG: Hi...does anybody know what the city Batman is like?? I am going there for 2weeks to stay with my boyfriend and his family, but will they accept me? How different is things there from tourist areas, can we still walk down the street holiding hands? Thanks =] |
Quite different from tourist areas. I would not recommend you to walk hand in hand. Not that they will hassle you, my experience is that people are very friendly there, but because it is strange - YOU are strange as a foreigner. Probably a lot of necks will be stretched to get a glimpse of you...
Yes, it is a Kurdish area. I travelled through that area (South, South-east and East Turkey) for 4 weeks alone, I never had any problem. People are very friendly as long as you behave correct.
Do go to Hassankeyf if that is still possible - I heard they have started building the dam - it is a gorgeous place to see. Mado there has delicious tatli. I miss it! 
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 09:59 pm |
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batman is in the east of turkey where there is terror problems, i wouldnt want to go there and i am turkish.. please dont go there!
also in the east family rules are really very strict i dont know did you hear anything about brothers kill sisters because they slept with somebody without marriage many more other things aswell!
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:01 pm |
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Oh thanks for that, you've made me feel quite better now hehe =] I have spoke to his parents before but i thought maybe not everyone will accept me there. I have lived in Icmeler for last season but am back in England now because my boyfriend has gone home to his family and now i am going to visit them. I think Turkish people are just really friendly anywhere!! Aww ill think of u while i'm there hehe, quite freezing it seems hehe
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:02 pm |
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Yes i did hear something like that about women...I though about that because me and my boyfriend are not even engaged, but his father did say to me he loves you and he is freedom, you can come...but i am still quite worried!!!!
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:05 pm |
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gina
batman is in the east of turkey where there is terror problems, i wouldnt want to go there and i am turkish..
please dont go there!
also in the east family rules are really very strict i dont know did you hear anything about brothers kill sisters because they slept with somebody without marriage many more other things aswell!
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:15 pm |
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Don't worry about anyting, GinaG.
You will see that you will like the hospitality of people there. They are very warm and friendly.
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:19 pm |
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Quoting nur1: gina
batman is in the east of turkey where there is terror problems, i wouldnt want to go there and i am turkish..
please dont go there!
also in the east family rules are really very strict i dont know did you hear anything about brothers kill sisters because they slept with somebody without marriage many more other things aswell!
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I think you are overreacting and make generalisations. Yes, honor killing occurs in the east. But not only there! Yes, there are problems with PKK, but then don't go to Marmaris, Istanbul and Antalya as well, or to London, Madrid, Indonesia, Thailand, Nepal, Morocco and several places more where also is terror threatening. I don't say you should neglect warnings, but don't pretend on every corner of the street gunned men are waiting.
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:20 pm |
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For information about terrorism threats, traffic dangers, bird flu, robbery and other disasters see: http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket%2FXcelerate%2FShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029390590&a=KCountryAdvice&aid=1013618386532
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:24 pm |
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Quote: I think you are overreacting and make generalisations. Yes, honor killing occurs in the east. But not only there! Yes, there are problems with PKK, but then don't go to Marmaris, Istanbul and Antalya as well, or to London, Madrid, Indonesia, Thailand, Nepal, Morocco and several places more where also is terror threatening. I don't say you should neglect warnings, but don't pretend on every corner of the street gunned men are waiting. |
+100 
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 10:33 pm |
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:37 pm |
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Awww thanks everyone for your help. I don't really have any traditional turkish clothes but i will cover up (it will be freezing anyway so i will have to haha)! im sure ill be fine, and i bet because i have only been icmeler, marmaris, side etc, once i have experienced the other turkish culture e.g no tourism, ill b fine!! Hope it goes well hehe! Thanksss!
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:40 pm |
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Theres a city called Batman??
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:46 pm |
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i cant believe you guys you are trying to hide things we are not trying to advertising our country for tourism at the moment just helping somebody who will soon go there and disappoint also you cant compare batman to terror atacks in london or istanbul or any safety place terror atacks can be in anywhere in the world i am talking about pkk is living there, it means always there!
please dont ignore them!
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:48 pm |
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Quoting nur1: i cant believe you guys you are trying to hide things we are not trying to advertising our country for tourism at the moment just helping somebody who will soon go there and disappoint also you cant compare batman to terror atacks in london or istanbul or any safety place terror atacks can be in anywhere in the world i am talking about pkk is living there, it means always there!
please dont ignore them! |
I do not ignore, there are certainly places I won't go (Siirt and Sirnak for example). But I do not make it bigger as well.
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:49 pm |
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Quoting xkirstyx: Theres a city called Batman?? |
Yes. But pronounced differently. And no flying guys with masks to see... 
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:51 pm |
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:51 pm |
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Quoting GinaG: Hi...does anybody know what the city Batman is like?? I am going there for 2weeks to stay with my boyfriend and his family, but will they accept me? How different is things there from tourist areas, can we still walk down the street holiding hands? Thanks =] |
Are you okay?You must think this lots of times!
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:54 pm |
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St.Nicholas comes from Turkey????
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:56 pm |
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30 Nov 2006 Thu 11:58 pm |
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Quoting xkirstyx: St.Nicholas comes from Turkey???? |
Kto kto??
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 12:25 am |
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Quote: i cant believe you guys you are trying to hide things we are not trying to advertising our country for tourism at the moment just helping somebody who will soon go there and disappoint also you cant compare batman to terror atacks in london or istanbul or any safety place terror atacks can be in anywhere in the world i am talking about pkk is living there, it means always there!
please dont ignore them!
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Have you ever been to any place in the east? You are sounding as if you were the spokeswoman of PKK. That's what PKK is trying to do . To scare people and prevent them from going to the region and isolate the region from Turkey. Millions of people live in the region. The number of terorists is 3-5 thounsand. The majority of that number is on the other side of the border; in northern Iraq. And also almost 35 percent of them is non Kurdish. Pls be careful when talking about a region and people living there.
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 12:27 am |
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HA HA Elizabeth, i feel like your 9 year old son. 
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 12:35 am |
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The areas' population is mainly Kurdish and they are more strictly blinded by some certain customs, traditions... So good luck. I cannot say it is the right place to go for a young tourist girl. If it were Gaziantep, Erzurum or Erzincan or some other eastern cities I would challenge you. But Batman... :S I bet even "Batman" has been at his homeland so far So be careful pls. But it will be a good experience for you to see the cultural gap.
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 02:02 am |
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i too am hoping to travel to the east of turkey....not for a while yet though, diyarbakir and mardin, which are not too far from batman, are the places which i have planned to visit......are these places similar to batman in terms of some of the things discussed previously? i've heard they are really nice places!
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 04:12 am |
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Quote: Have you ever been to any place in the east? You are sounding as if you were the spokeswoman of PKK. That's what PKK is trying to do . To scare people and prevent them from going to the region and isolate the region from Turkey. Millions of people live in the region. The number of terorists is 3-5 thounsand. The majority of that number is on the other side of the border; in northern Iraq. And also almost 35 percent of them is non Kurdish. Pls be careful when talking about a region and people living there |
+100
i actually agree with u on something....
But yeh i agree with the others make sure u cover up and be aware of their traditions and have respect for the customs...(such as showin 2much flesh + showin to much affection in public) after all u are in there country .... good luck!!! xxxx
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 04:24 am |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting xkirstyx: Theres a city called Batman?? |
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 @ Elisabeth......oh dear I love little children....they can make you laugh!
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 04:25 am |
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Quoting xkirstyx: St.Nicholas comes from Turkey???? |
Ok it's apparent that not only little children can make you laugh
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 07:32 am |
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Quoting smile: i too am hoping to travel to the east of turkey....not for a while yet though, diyarbakir and mardin, which are not too far from batman, are the places which i have planned to visit......are these places similar to batman in terms of some of the things discussed previously? i've heard they are really nice places! |
Mardin is great! About Diyarbakir I don't know, the Lonely Planet said that was a dangerous city for a solo woman traveller, not because of terrorists but because of 'simple' (?) robbery and theft - it is one of the poorest cities in Turkey, so I did not go there.
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 07:32 am |
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Quoting qdemir: Quote: i cant believe you guys you are trying to hide things we are not trying to advertising our country for tourism at the moment just helping somebody who will soon go there and disappoint also you cant compare batman to terror atacks in london or istanbul or any safety place terror atacks can be in anywhere in the world i am talking about pkk is living there, it means always there!
please dont ignore them!
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Have you ever been to any place in the east? You are sounding as if you were the spokeswoman of PKK. That's what PKK is trying to do . To scare people and prevent them from going to the region and isolate the region from Turkey. Millions of people live in the region. The number of terorists is 3-5 thounsand. The majority of that number is on the other side of the border; in northern Iraq. And also almost 35 percent of them is non Kurdish. Pls be careful when talking about a region and people living there. |
+ 1!!
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 08:18 am |
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Quoting turkishgirll: The areas' population is mainly Kurdish and they are more strictly blinded by some certain customs, traditions... So good luck. I cannot say it is the right place to go for a young tourist girl. If it were Gaziantep, Erzurum or Erzincan or some other eastern cities I would challenge you. But Batman... :S I bet even "Batman" has been at his homeland so far So be careful pls. But it will be a good experience for you to see the cultural gap. |
Batman I found boring, nothing to do in the city itself, only a great pastane. Traditions I did not notice more than in other cities, enough 'modern' looking women on the street. But Erzurum? That is traditional, old fashioned! Very religious and no place to hang out and visit by yourself being a woman.
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 06:14 pm |
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I wouldn't worry if I were you. My family in law lives in Hakkari, which is in the farthest south east corner, and I've never had problems of any kind there. Of course you should think about how you dress and don't eat eachother in public but other than that don't worry. I would say that when you're going there to see your boyfriends family (or even as a tourist) terrorism is a minor threat, I also doubt that if there are any around, that they would even care about your presence there. They go after specific targets, not innocents like yourself. As for regular people, some may look but that's only because they're curious.
As far as I remember Batman is a relatively small city, poorer than touristic areas of course.
Also I don't know if it is a problem in Batman but the bacterias in the water may vary from what you're used to. If you get any problems with your stomach you should definitely buy water.
Oh, and are you aware how people shower in that area?
There was so many things that I would like to have known the first time I went there, so if I can help you in any way don't hesitate to ask.
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 08:07 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting qdemir: Quote: i cant believe you guys you are trying to hide things we are not trying to advertising our country for tourism at the moment just helping somebody who will soon go there and disappoint also you cant compare batman to terror atacks in london or istanbul or any safety place terror atacks can be in anywhere in the world i am talking about pkk is living there, it means always there!
please dont ignore them!
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Have you ever been to any place in the east? You are sounding as if you were the spokeswoman of PKK. That's what PKK is trying to do . To scare people and prevent them from going to the region and isolate the region from Turkey. Millions of people live in the region. The number of terorists is 3-5 thounsand. The majority of that number is on the other side of the border; in northern Iraq. And also almost 35 percent of them is non Kurdish. Pls be careful when talking about a region and people living there. |
+ 1!! |
yes, i have been everywhere in turkey and i was born in turkey i am turkish! are you gonna try to tell me about my country? dont you dare again call me spokeswoman of PKK! i would really get angry! why does it hurt you this much, i think you are dating with somebody from east! ?????? also if you remember the original post; somebody was asking about visiting that city is it safety or not and being turkish myself and having been everywhere in my country i am a lot more capable of answering the question....
ps: i dont think everybody is terrorist in the east of turkey. i like kurdish people i have many kurdish friends and all the others (laz,cerkez vs..), i only dont like terrorists!
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 08:30 pm |
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Quoting nur1: yes, i have been everywhere in turkey and i was born in turkey i am turkish! are you gonna try to tell me about my country? dont you dare again call me spokeswoman of PKK! i would really get angry! why does it hurt you this much, i think you are dating with somebody from east! ?????? also if you remember the original post; somebody was asking about visiting that city is it safety or not and being turkish myself and having been everywhere in my country i am a lot more capable of answering the question....
ps: i dont think everybody is terrorist in the east of turkey. i like kurdish people i have many kurdish friends and all the others (laz,cerkez vs..), i only dont like terrorists! |
Three remarks: first - look at the bold sentence. It looks like you are accusing me and/or qdemir of doing something horrible. I do not date an Eastern guy, but if I was, it would be not a reason for me to defend a part of the country unless I liked that part. And it would never be a reason to you to be so agressive!
Second: you may be Turkish, but you never travelled as a tourist, that is quite something else than travelling being Turkish, think of language, absence of shared culture etc. If anyone of us has other experiences in that area or do not share your point of view, don't make them less worthwhile than yours.
Third: I do not like terrorists either. The fact that I say that I do not find Batman and area more dangerous than Istanbul, Marmaris or other places does not make me a terrorist lover!
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 10:00 pm |
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trudy....+10000000 u tell thm
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01 Dec 2006 Fri 10:50 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting nur1: yes, i have been everywhere in turkey and i was born in turkey i am turkish! are you gonna try to tell me about my country? dont you dare again call me spokeswoman of PKK! i would really get angry! why does it hurt you this much, i think you are dating with somebody from east! ?????? also if you remember the original post; somebody was asking about visiting that city is it safety or not and being turkish myself and having been everywhere in my country i am a lot more capable of answering the question....
ps: i dont think everybody is terrorist in the east of turkey. i like kurdish people i have many kurdish friends and all the others (laz,cerkez vs..), i only dont like terrorists! |
Three remarks: first - look at the bold sentence. It looks like you are accusing me and/or qdemir of doing something horrible. I do not date an Eastern guy, but if I was, it would be not a reason for me to defend a part of the country unless I liked that part. And it would never be a reason to you to be so agressive!
Second: you may be Turkish, but you never travelled as a tourist, that is quite something else than travelling being Turkish, think of language, absence of shared culture etc. If anyone of us has other experiences in that area or do not share your point of view, don't make them less worthwhile than yours.
Third: I do not like terrorists either. The fact that I say that I do not find Batman and area more dangerous than Istanbul, Marmaris or other places does not make me a terrorist lover! |
Very good point Trudy!.....nur1 you make out that Batman is the worst place in the world - which it's not!. Have you taken notice of Iraq at the moment?  different story I know but there are worst places in the world than Batman for crying out loud!
Oof abartma ya!
GinaG you will be quite safe in Batman I assure you. As long as you do what others say and cover up which as you say you will be doing anyway as it will be winter and do not show your boyfriend too much affection in public...holding hands should be fine but if you wish not to then by all means do not . Also your boyfriend lives in Batman so instead of listening to too many people that do not live there (though foreigners/vistors views are good because you will be one yourself).
Your boyfriend will have the best answers and I am sure he will keep you safe no matter what so there is definatly no need to worry
Oh and one more thing! Have a great and safe trip!
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