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EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:25 pm |
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i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro...
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:44 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro... |
I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:49 pm |
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Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro... |
I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide |
 pls don't make me lough,you will say u have to be democratical while you have many prejudices about other culture.sure more democracy,more dveloping,more human rights aim of all of us,but how you want from others that you have to be all like me,while the other has their own cultural and national specialities
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:56 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro... |
I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide |
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once sb has prejudgements towards other cultures/groups/minorities that sb cannot call itself democratic
cultural and national specificity cannot clash with democracy, rule of law or human rights; otherwise, if we do not agree that there are universal values, then we can legitimate arbitrary violence or just about anything having as an excuse the "national specificity"
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 10:01 pm |
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I will limit this only to Cyprus. Why must Turkey open ports to Cyprus while the rest of Europe will not open ports to North Cyprus? Why is EU insistent that Turkey compromise first? Why can't the two things happen simultaneously?
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 10:02 pm |
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Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro... |
I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide |
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once sb has prejudgements towards other cultures/groups/minorities that sb cannot call itself democratic
cultural and national specificity cannot clash with democracy, rule of law or human rights; otherwise, if we do not agree that there are universal values, then we can legitimate arbitrary violence or just about anything having as an excuse the "national specificity" |
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 10:05 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro... |
I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide |
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once sb has prejudgements towards other cultures/groups/minorities that sb cannot call itself democratic
cultural and national specificity cannot clash with democracy, rule of law or human rights; otherwise, if we do not agree that there are universal values, then we can legitimate arbitrary violence or just about anything having as an excuse the "national specificity" |
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08 Dec 2006 Fri 05:39 pm |
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Oooo! 
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=154482
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08 Dec 2006 Fri 05:46 pm |
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http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=61239
eu businesspeople are fighting for turkeys membership of the eu
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08 Dec 2006 Fri 05:57 pm |
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Quoting myself!: Oooo!
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=154482
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..but this is amazing! After everything that has been said, Turkey are NOW opening one seaport and one airport to Cyprus...what are the views of the Turkish classmates on this?
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08 Dec 2006 Fri 06:14 pm |
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I think that demanding from Turkey to just agree on the Cyprus issue is very unfair, unethical and just plain wrong. Cyprus has been accepted to the EU even though it had boundary probles, and that is against the EU law. They broke the law and now just want to please one of their members playing on Turkey's desire to join. There are real people living on the Turkish side of Cyprus that Greeks need to respect and give social rights to!
The EU isn't focusing enough on Turkey's economy, law and social structure - discrimination and human rights violations. If EU keeps playing games and will overlook the more important criteria of a healthy country and society, they will eventually lead to self-destruction.
On the other hand, I wouldn't glorify Turkey so much. Let's not fool ourselves - they do have a lot to improve! as well as they probably need EU's stimulation in order to keep going in the right direction.
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