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02 Jan 2007 Tue 10:11 pm |
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I have just seen a news in the webpage of a Turkish newspaper:
An American girl came to Turkey 3 days ago to meet his Turkish boyfriend that she met on the internet. While she left her hotel in Taksim in Istanbul to see around, she was kidnapped by 2 guys and raped by 10 guys.
Please be careful, if you travel there alone!
Source: http://www.vatanim.com.tr/root.vatan?exec=haberdetay&tarih=02.01.2007&Newsid=101130&Categoryid=7
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 10:15 pm |
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Oh my God!
I have just checked the webpage and it is true
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 10:18 pm |
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Quoting zbrct: I have just seen a news in the webpage of a Turkish newspaper:
An American girl came to Turkey 3 days ago to meet his Turkish boyfriend that she met on the internet. While she left her hotel in Taksim in Istanbul to see around, she was kidnapped by 2 guys and raped by 10 guys.
Please be careful, if you travel there alone!
Source: http://www.vatanim.com.tr/root.vatan?exec=haberdetay&tarih=02.01.2007&Newsid=101130&Categoryid=7 |
I urge people travelling there alone to be careful too. yes, it does not happen all the time but it happens
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 10:23 pm |
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But Istanbul is supposed to be relatively safe!  Poor girl...
Actually I have been thinking about buying a pepper spray or something when I'm with myself. It's sad that women can't walk around with themselves nowadays.
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 10:47 pm |
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 10:51 pm |
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Quoting zbrct: I have just seen a news in the webpage of a Turkish newspaper:
An American girl came to Turkey 3 days ago to meet his Turkish boyfriend that she met on the internet. While she left her hotel in Taksim in Istanbul to see around, she was kidnapped by 2 guys and raped by 10 guys.
Please be careful, if you travel there alone!
Source: http://www.vatanim.com.tr/root.vatan?exec=haberdetay&tarih=02.01.2007&Newsid=101130&Categoryid=7 |
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 11:00 pm |
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Quoting zbrct: she was kidnapped by 2 guys and raped by 10 guys. |
I feel for that girl, it must be awful, but this is something that could happen anywhere around the world. No need to blow this up out of proportion.
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 11:33 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: I feel for that girl, it must be awful, but this is something that could happen anywhere around the world. No need to blow this up out of proportion. |
+1 totally agree
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02 Jan 2007 Tue 11:42 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Quoting Elisa: I feel for that girl, it must be awful, but this is something that could happen anywhere around the world. No need to blow this up out of proportion. |
+1 totally agree |
Capoeira canım where the hell have you been? 
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 08:25 pm |
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this is scary, regardless of where it happened. Would someone be kind enough to translate this article to English? Many thanks!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 08:43 pm |
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this also happened on the first day of bayram! ne yazık be!!! these people are animals!!!!!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 09:01 pm |
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Quoting Lisabelle: Ladies,
Please be aware that this could happen ANYWHERE. Protect yourself by being aware of your surroundings (very hard to do in a strange place). If you are traveling alone, let someone know your itinerary. I travel alot for work and I always tell them at the front desk...I am going to XXX I will be back at XXX and I try to keep in touch with your family at least daily. |
+1,000,000 people get raped,kidnapped.murdered,assualted etc etc everyday everywhere..not specific to istanbul or anywhere else..
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 09:16 pm |
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Quoting robyn  : Quoting Lisabelle: Ladies,
Please be aware that this could happen ANYWHERE. Protect yourself by being aware of your surroundings (very hard to do in a strange place). If you are traveling alone, let someone know your itinerary. I travel alot for work and I always tell them at the front desk...I am going to XXX I will be back at XXX and I try to keep in touch with your family at least daily. |
+1,000,000 people get raped,kidnapped.murdered,assualted etc etc everyday everywhere..not specific to istanbul or anywhere else.. |
that is right BUT In other places the rapers are caught and punished right away. Whereas, in Turkey they are caught late and released easily. The punishments in Turkey are not dissuasive. For example, the police has announced that one of those 10 rapers had been caught before because of robbery and released. So, they were let free and then raped that American girl Is this law and justice?
If you do not want to be hurt in Turkey, please be cautious!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 09:23 pm |
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Quoting kadersokak: Quoting robyn : Quoting Lisabelle: Ladies,
Please be aware that this could happen ANYWHERE. Protect yourself by being aware of your surroundings (very hard to do in a strange place). If you are traveling alone, let someone know your itinerary. I travel alot for work and I always tell them at the front desk...I am going to XXX I will be back at XXX and I try to keep in touch with your family at least daily. |
+1,000,000 people get raped,kidnapped.murdered,assualted etc etc everyday everywhere..not specific to istanbul or anywhere else.. |
that is right BUT In other places the rapers are caught and punished right away. Whereas, in Turkey they are caught late and released easily. The punishments in Turkey are not dissuasive. For example, the police has announced that one of those 10 rapers had been caught before because of robbery and released. So, they were let free and then raped that American girl Is this law and justice?
If you do not want to be hurt in Turkey, please be cautious! |
they are not always caught..i'm sorry but what country are you living because it sounds like a land of candyfloss and cotton wool to me.rapists,abusers etc are not always caught.
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 11:14 pm |
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Quoting robyn : Quoting kadersokak: Quoting robyn : Quoting Lisabelle: Ladies,
Please be aware that this could happen ANYWHERE. Protect yourself by being aware of your surroundings (very hard to do in a strange place). If you are traveling alone, let someone know your itinerary. I travel alot for work and I always tell them at the front desk...I am going to XXX I will be back at XXX and I try to keep in touch with your family at least daily. |
+1,000,000 people get raped,kidnapped.murdered,assualted etc etc everyday everywhere..not specific to istanbul or anywhere else.. |
that is right BUT In other places the rapers are caught and punished right away. Whereas, in Turkey they are caught late and released easily. The punishments in Turkey are not dissuasive. For example, the police has announced that one of those 10 rapers had been caught before because of robbery and released. So, they were let free and then raped that American girl Is this law and justice?
If you do not want to be hurt in Turkey, please be cautious! |
they are not always caught..i'm sorry but what country are you living because it sounds like a land of candyfloss and cotton wool to me.rapists,abusers etc are not always caught. |
right they are not always caught. this is another point
but even if they are caught, they are released easily
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 11:37 pm |
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It really does not surprise me at all because it can happen ANYWHERE in the world . I heard about a similar case which happened to a teacher in Pakistan a few years ago which was EVEN worse and remember that in some parts of south africa virgin girls are raped because it is a cure against AIDS according to them!! :-S what a crazy world it is!!
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03 Jan 2007 Wed 11:50 pm |
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şerefsiz herifler
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:23 am |
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May I say something different?
Turkish media is very famous about telling lies on news. I am not a big fan of that newspaper, maybe the news is true but if you noticed: there is no resource. Turkish media, especially some newspapers are not accredited. They have news without a little reality. You should look at resource for a good new, for example: AA(Anadolu Ajans- Anadolu Agency) is a reliable resource. And if you noticed, there is not much info about the girl or the other people (bad guys?).
Well, I am not sure about this information. Who knows... maybe it is totally lie..
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:35 am |
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Quoting kadersokak: Quoting robyn : Quoting Lisabelle: Ladies,
Please be aware that this could happen ANYWHERE. Protect yourself by being aware of your surroundings (very hard to do in a strange place). If you are traveling alone, let someone know your itinerary. I travel alot for work and I always tell them at the front desk...I am going to XXX I will be back at XXX and I try to keep in touch with your family at least daily. |
+1,000,000 people get raped,kidnapped.murdered,assualted etc etc everyday everywhere..not specific to istanbul or anywhere else.. |
that is right BUT In other places the rapers are caught and punished right away. Whereas, in Turkey they are caught late and released easily. The punishments in Turkey are not dissuasive. For example, the police has announced that one of those 10 rapers had been caught before because of robbery and released. So, they were let free and then raped that American girl Is this law and justice?
If you do not want to be hurt in Turkey, please be cautious! |
Sounds just like the UK to me
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:43 am |
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this information is not true! it must be western journalists who made up the stories. esp bbc and cnn who rule behind all the worlds newspapers and info sources. western liars! they manipulate with such stories so that the whole world thinks bad on such countries, they destroy the holy reputation of holy nations. they wanted to spoil the kurban bayram atmosphere. its again a slap for arab and arab-related countries. these nations have great history, they had great empires which westerners didnt have (according to some smart "selfmade historians").
i dont believe this happent, its a huge lie! we can be proud of that our women are always respected and under a great protection (sometimes under burka), they protected in a way that such incidents do not take a place because women are kept home, safe and happy. there at home they enjoy the true freedom.
it happens only to american or european chicks who are not protected by coverings. who do not hide their weekness. no wonder shes raped!
cheese from al-jazeera!
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:52 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: cheese from al-jazeera! |
Luv ya  
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:54 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: this information is not true! it must be western journalists who made up the stories. esp bbc and cnn who rule behind all the worlds newspapers and info sources. western liars! they manipulate with such stories so that the whole world thinks bad on such countries, they destroy the holy reputation of holy nations. they wanted to spoil the kurban bayram atmosphere. its again a slap for arab and arab-related countries. these nations have great history, they had great empires which westerners didnt have (according to some smart "selfmade historians").
i dont believe this happent, its a huge lie! we can be proud of that our women are always respected and under a great protection (sometimes under burka), they protected in a way that such incidents do not take a place because women are kept home, safe and happy. there at home they enjoy the true freedom.
it happens only to american or european chicks who are not protected by coverings. who do not hide their weekness. no wonder shes raped!
cheese from al-jazeera! |
Aman tanrım, şunu inanmiyorum...
Even though Turkey is a country with great history doesn't mean there doesn't exist bad people there, because obviously there do. Or are you denying that rape and other crimes occur at all?
I'd like you to explain why you think that women should stay in their home with a burka in order not to get raped, because I have never heard that from a fellow woman before.
Look, in history women wore veals to cover themselves from the heat and dirt, as they rarely bathed (like men also did), but since then it has changed into what we see it as today "protecting their beauty" and so on.
When a woman doesn't wear a burka doesn't mean she's inviting men to rape her, it means that she wants to be treated the same way as men and that she is not a weak doll. When a man sees a woman not wearing a veil and he feels he has the right to rape her, he has a serious psychologic problem and he is a danger to society.
It is that type of men that are wrong, not women who simply wants to be respected and treated equally, because that's what they (we) do.
The girl in question was simply visiting her boyfriend and went outside for a minute, for gods sake. She never did anything wrong, certaintly didn't intend to get gang raped that's for sure.
I don't understand how you can deny it and say that it was her fault. Also, Turkey is a secular country (well, partly). What about women studying at universities? Is that a giant gang rape waiting to happen or what? Should they bend down and accept a 100 year old fate?
I am utterly shocked.
If you're joking don't mind this post.
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:56 am |
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Quoting azade: I don't understand how you can deny it and say that it was her fault. Also, Turkey is a secular country (well, partly). What about women studying at universities? Is that a giant gang rape waiting to happen or what? Should they bend down and accept a 100 year old fate?
I am utterly shocked. |
I think Femme Fatal was speaking with "tongue firmly in cheek"
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:57 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: i dont believe this happent, its a huge lie! we can be proud of that our women are always respected and under a great protection (sometimes under burka), they protected in a way that such incidents do not take a place because women are kept home, safe and happy. there at home they enjoy the true freedom.
it happens only to american or european chicks who are not protected by coverings. who do not hide their weekness. no wonder shes raped!
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how can you say that the reason this girl was raped was because she wasn't wearing the veil???!!!
are you saying that all women who don't wear the veil want to be raped??? OMG!!!!
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 12:59 am |
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Quoting aenigma x:
I think Femme Fatal was speaking with "tongue firmly in cheek" |
For the sake of my gender, I certaintly hope so! 
Also, I meant to say 1000, not 100.
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:01 am |
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Quoting aenigma x:
I think Femme Fatal was speaking with "tongue firmly in cheek" |
i thought i was the only person with the lowest iq in the whole world? should i doubt? 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:03 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x:
I think Femme Fatal was speaking with "tongue firmly in cheek" |
i thought i was the only person with the lowest iq in the whole world? should i doubt? |
NO!
But keep posting - you are the only thing that's made me laugh today
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:04 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x:
I think Femme Fatal was speaking with "tongue firmly in cheek" |
i thought i was the only person with the lowest iq in the whole world? should i doubt? |
Oh bless you!  Well you never know with people... I have been surprised before. I have defended womens rights a few times too many
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:06 am |
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Quoting aenigma x:
NO!
But keep posting - you are the only thing that's made me laugh today |
OMG, im in shock!
btw, they caught the bite 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:08 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x:
NO!
But keep posting - you are the only thing that's made me laugh today |
OMG, im in shock!
btw, they caught the bite |
wait til i have my morning coffee...
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:11 am |
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Of be çok ayıp! You scared me 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:16 am |
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Quoting gezbelle: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x:
NO!
But keep posting - you are the only thing that's made me laugh today |
OMG, im in shock!
btw, they caught the bite |
wait til i have my morning coffee... |
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:23 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x:
NO!
But keep posting - you are the only thing that's made me laugh today |
OMG, im in shock!
btw, they caught the bite |
wait til i have my morning coffee... |
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Is that it? Or are we waiting for Gezbelle to finish her coffee?
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:24 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting gezbelle: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x:
NO!
But keep posting - you are the only thing that's made me laugh today |
OMG, im in shock!
btw, they caught the bite |
wait til i have my morning coffee... |
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Is that it? Or are we waiting for Gezbelle to finish her coffee? |
should i drink faster???
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:27 am |
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Quoting gezbelle: should i drink faster??? |
If you wouldn't mind. I won't be around for a little while and would like to go out with a BANG (metophorically speaking)
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:27 am |
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enigma (purposely put wrong)
do u think i do clowning for free? 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:28 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: enigma (purposely put wrong)
do u think i do clowning for free? |
Sorry Famme Fettal
Offfffff the cheques in the post (as usual)
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:30 am |
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gez-belle
havent u finished? enigma cant wait so long.
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:33 am |
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Too late - I'm off to listen to RAJR (Radio Al Jazeera Rock) that Femme_Fetid suggested.
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:33 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting femme_fatal: enigma (purposely put wrong)
do u think i do clowning for free? |
Sorry Famme Fettal
Offfffff the cheques in the post (as usual) |
inegme,
i receive in diamonds only, no cheques! 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:35 am |
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hahahahahaha...oooofffff yaaaaaaa!!
bitirdim!
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:35 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Too late - I'm off to listen to RAJR (Radio Al Jazeera Rock) that Femme_Fetid suggested. |
al jazeera rocks! 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:36 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting femme_fatal: enigma (purposely put wrong)
do u think i do clowning for free? |
Sorry Famme Fettal
Offfffff the cheques in the post (as usual) |
inegme,
i receive in diamonds only, no cheques! |
You in diamonds? A bit like trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear Femme Fetid. Anyway, you are too expensive - cya -
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:36 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting gezbelle: should i drink faster??? |
If you wouldn't mind. I won't be around for a little while and would like to go out with a BANG (metophorically speaking) |
i think it's going to be a fizzle wizzle for you unfortunately...
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 01:38 am |
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Quoting gezbelle: hahahahahaha...oooofffff yaaaaaaa!!
bitirdim! |
ben too bitirdim!
ps. im deeply sorry for off-topic! ah, im so much fatale! 
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 04:25 am |
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My other half said to me that Istanbul can be a dangerous place , i said so can other places in the world but he was adament Istanbul could be bad, he insisted on carrying any bags i had (my handbag doesnt look femanine) because he said if they were to be snatched or we were held up for them he would rather face the confrontation than to have me face them.
Apart from the uneasiness i felt (as per my previous post) i wasnt scared but i noticed the amount of police around as well as the security people on the stations etc were second to non. wish our uk police forces had the same amount of staff !!
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04 Jan 2007 Thu 03:37 pm |
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You should be careful where-ever you go and whatever sex you are - it is just about being sensible and minimising dangers where possible.
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