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1.       tommysbar
492 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 12:56 am

okay guys im in a bit of a situation what can i do? my husbands sister was married to a guy for 15 years they have 2older children together in turkey, the guy came to the uk 9 years ago. He claimed asylum and 4 years ago decided to marry an english woman here so that meant he had to divorce my sister in law. She didnt really have much choice and agreed . Now he is married to a english woman . He has lied to his english wife tellling her his ex wife no longer lives in that village but infact she lives in his house all year round. Not only that he has had a baby with his turkish wife and his english wife doesnt have any idea.I think the english wife deserves to know that her husband has a child and is still sending his turkish wife money.the english woman knows about his 2 older children but not the baby . What should I do if i tell this lady whats going on I risk losing everything. HELP

2.       cat_leo
51 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 02:50 am

I can understand you wanting to help this english woman by telling her the truth about her turkish husband, but I wouldn't get myself involved especially being yourself married to a turkish man. Turkish men do not like for others to know about their personal marriage business, so I'am sure your husband would not approve of you getting involved in this couple's situation by you telling her what you know about him, ex-turkish wife and the baby.

Best to let this woman find out the truth on her own because eventually she will find out about it sooner or later because always the truth comes out at the end.

I'am sorry to sound so cold, but I also have a friend also in a similar situation except that he did not divorce his turkish wife, but rather want to have both women. Sad isn't it about what some of these men do and how they hurt women, but as most here would say 'there are men like these all over the world'

3.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 03:16 am

4.       cat_leo
51 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 04:53 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

You are part of your husbands family now. You have an obligation to that family and not this English woman. Maybe it does not seem right to you and me, but I don't think it would be a wise thing for your marriage for you to get involved. My advice would be to stay out of it.



Exactly my point!

You risk your own marriage and having problems with your own husband by getting involved in someone elses marriage business, best to stay out of it as Elisabeth also suggested.

5.       kai
0 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 05:29 am

Quoting cat_leo:

Quoting Elisabeth:

You are part of your husbands family now. You have an obligation to that family and not this English woman. Maybe it does not seem right to you and me, but I don't think it would be a wise thing for your marriage for you to get involved. My advice would be to stay out of it.



Exactly my point!

You risk your own marriage and having problems with your own husband by getting involved in someone elses marriage business, best to stay out of it as Elisabeth also suggested.



But surely if they were that strongly binded it wouldn't effect their marriage to much

6.       aenigma x
0 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 11:26 am

It sounds very harsh, but this is actually none of your business and I wonder why you feel you should get involved? You obviously feel your loyalty lies with your sister-in-law so are you thinking that by telling this English woman about the baby you will cause problems in her relationship?

In any situation like this, you should stay out of it. Disclosing anyone else's secrets (however morally justified you think you may be) only causes upset and argument. In addition, people DO tend to shoot the messenger

7.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 11:32 am

Quoting aenigma x:



In any situation like this, you should stay out of it. Disclosing anyone else's secrets (however morally justified you think you may be) only causes upset and argument. In addition, people DO tend to shoot the messenger



I was dragged into a situation once through no fault of my own (affairs, accusations, brother-in-laws, sister-in-laws) and I was shot with an oozi 9mm.......... I would keep out, it will only cause more problems

8.       aenigma x
0 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 11:37 am

Quoting libralady:

and I was shot with an oozi 9mm..........



Hasta la vista baby !

9.       azade
1606 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 12:41 pm

Am I the only one who thinks that what this man has done is absolutely disgusting, not to mention that bigamy is illegal? If he has a baby with the turkish woman, that means they're still together. I understand that you don't want to ruin your own situation, and I don't encourage you to tell her.

But generally, regardless if you're turkish married, russian married or whatever it is downright wrong, this situation is horrible and I can't even begin to explain my sympathy for this english woman. This isn't about respecting turkish customs or political correctness, this is about human and womens rights.

Still, I would probably not say anything, at least not personally. Perhaps drop her an anonymous letter or invite her for a holiday in Turkey so there's a slight chance this woman can get rid of her so-called husband. Nobody deserves this kind of betrayal.

10.       aenigma x
0 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 02:13 pm

Quoting azade:

Am I the only one who thinks that what this man has done is absolutely disgusting, not to mention that bigamy is illegal?



Calm down! It says quite clearly that he divorced his Turkish wife when he met this English woman. Why does all your sympathy go to the English woman? After all, she must have known she was getting involved with a married man, and their relationship effectively caused the divorce from his first wife .

What he is done is sadly all too common - but it doesn't make him a monster!! At least he is sending money to his children which is more than a lot of men do after they leave

11.       azade
1606 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 05:30 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting azade:

Am I the only one who thinks that what this man has done is absolutely disgusting, not to mention that bigamy is illegal?



Calm down! It says quite clearly that he divorced his Turkish wife when he met this English woman. Why does all your sympathy go to the English woman? After all, she must have known she was getting involved with a married man, and their relationship effectively caused the divorce from his first wife .

What he is done is sadly all too common - but it doesn't make him a monster!! At least he is sending money to his children which is more than a lot of men do after they leave



When he has a baby with the turkish woman it's obvious that their relationship is not over. Having a baby with someone other than your spouse is pretty lousy. Just because he divorced his turkish wife due to issues with the law, it's still unofficial bigamy, or the popular name for it - cheating. He must have lied to his english wife for a reason...

12.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 08 Jan 2007 Mon 09:04 pm

i think its far more convenient that he lived here illegally,got caught, got deported,then 'found' an english woman stupid enough to marry him some men i know have done this..their turkish wives are more than aware of the situation and the relationship is often still continuing behind the english woman's back either way i agree that it is not your place to tell her directly.

13.       tommysbar
492 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 12:20 am

no he didnt tell her he was still married he got a divorce without telling the english woman he wasnt deported either he was seeking asylum

14.       CANLI
5084 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 03:40 am

İ second this too,your interfering would make things worse,for all the parts,including yourself ofcourse.

First,it may cause problems to your own marriage.
Second,it may cause problems to your sister_in law,at least as i understood,he is carring on his financial responsibilities,maybe when he knew you told the English lady,he will cut it off among other problems too.
Third,it may cause divorce regarding the English lady and you will have to live with that too.

We don't discuss if that is right or wrong,but discussing the stiuation which you have to deal with cause it will effect everything .

Somehow,the English lady will know,sooner or later,but it will cause lots of problems if she knew from you.

And do you think,the English lady doesn't know why did he marry her ?!

15.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 03:49 am

i agree with what everyone else has said so far. unfortunately, i don't think you should interfere and tell the english lady. you don't know what the consequences will be...to the english lady, your sister-in-law, or even yourself if you get invovled.

i think what this man is doing is disgusting. but as i always like to think, karma will come around, he will get what he deserves in the end.

i suppose i would like to know why your sister-in-law decided to have another baby with him and put up with his antics. probably to save face in light of their divorce?

16.       ceylanOANA
45 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 04:38 am

My only advise is not to let 3 kids...without the financial support (or even more than only it)
Children are the most important issue,
cos they have no guilt..
Leave the adults..to bare their problems
kids can't...so...be wise

17.       karekin04
565 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 04:43 am

I don't know if I really think it is disgusting?? he left his wife and divorced her.... happens everyday. Sad? yes, but geez at least he is still being responsible for the woman in Turkey and paying for his children. I would feel more sorry for the Turkish woman rather then the english woman. There is no reason for "you" to tell the english woman. It is his job to let her know he was previously married. I happen to think that even if she would have known when they got together she probably would have married him anyway. As tempting as it is to get involved in other peoples business (I do love a bit of gossip myself The best thing is to let it unravel all on its own.

18.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 05:37 am

i only said disgusting because i was under the impression that he cheated on his turkish (now ex) wife with the english lady, and then had a baby with his turkish ex-wife whilst he was married to the english lady. confused yet? i am!! maybe disgusting wasn't the right word.

yeh true, at least he is supporting his kids by sending money back to his turkish ex-wife.

19.       azade
1606 posts
 09 Jan 2007 Tue 01:00 pm

Quoting gezbelle:

i only said disgusting because i was under the impression that he cheated on his turkish (now ex) wife with the english lady, and then had a baby with his turkish ex-wife whilst he was married to the english lady. confused yet? i am!! maybe disgusting wasn't the right word.



That was what I based my reply on too...

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