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20 Jan 2007 Sat 05:52 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Political arguments will never "go anywhere" - they will never be resolved, but I love to hear points of view and I DO believe people learn from them. |
I agree, so do I. But a healthy discussion about politics is a strange phenomenon here on TC. I guess you'll just have to accept that if you want to discuss politics, you'll have to go somewhere else. I hate to admit it, but I've given up long ago.
Sad to see what this thread has turned into again..
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 05:54 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: I agree, so do I. But a healthy discussion about politics is a strange phenomenon here on TC. I guess you'll just have to accept that if you want to discuss politics, you'll have to go somewhere else. I hate to admit it, but I've given up long ago.
Sad to see what this thread has turned into again.. |
Oh I know - but it was worth the quick re-visit for fun! Sad? Where are the insults and swearing? 
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 05:57 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x:
Political arguments will never "go anywhere" - they will never be resolved, but I love to hear points of view and I DO believe people learn from them. If there was a solution to political argument, there would be no such thing as opposing politicans  !
In addition, your point of view and mine about what you like to see on TC is also a "pointless discussion" |
political arguements, issues would be solved when people starts to be happy with what they have in their hands and stop to have dreams about being one absolute power of the world...
what people doing here in Turkey is not politics at all... it is like this after Ataturks death... this is another thing... which was discussed before aswell
now, you say what you want to see and i say we agree or not... this is not important... the important is to share the knowledge without insulting eachothers...
now i have to finish my romantic poem translations as i have to DO something for what i want to see here... lets better thank to my inspiration...
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 06:02 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: You can discuss anything... i am not against to that...
But obviously you are having no more than fights here, instead of learning things from eachother...
i also didnt like the way CARTEL-please dont offend but what you are doing is wrong aswell- discusses it here...
and azade... here the word you used "Kurdistan" is known as a country is wanted to be set up in those region...
not as that where mostly Kurdish people live...
and i am sure you were aware of that... and you would better simply mention the city you were living...
I am not against the discussion... I am against to such nonsense discussions goes nowhere...
And i believe romantic poetry translations and those translation requests are much better that this...
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benim yöntemimin neresi yanlış dostum bölücülük yapamaz kimse burda veya herhangi bir yerde.Kurdlerin çoğu pkk yanlısı bunu hepimiz biliyoruz tanıdığım çok iyi adamlarda var kurd ama çok azlar burda yöntem önemli değil amaç önemlidir.kimse birini seviyor diye kuzu postuna bürünüp onun yanlış fikirlerini topluma açık ve bu site gibi yabancıların bizi tanımaya çalıştığı bir ortama empoze edemez demekrosiye gelincede bölücükük uğruna yanlış bir ideolojinin peşinden gidenlerede demokrasi sağlanıcaksa o zaman ne hukuk kalır ne insan hakkı herkes bildiğini okusun o zaman.Burda bazıları kurdistanın varlığından bahsediyor öyle bir yerin var olmadığını herkes biliyor olması türkiyenin bölünmesi demekdir zaten kurdlerin haritasına göre doğu anadoluyu almışlar komple .bu fikri savunanlar şunu bilmeli onların içlerindede yaşayan bir sürü azınlık topluluk var her biri bölemeye çalışsa nasıl olur o ülkenin hali.benim isteğim bu denli hassas olduğumuz bir konuda daha dikkatli davranmalarıdır.bu acısını biz çekiyoruz ülke olarak.Burda danimarkadaki roj tv nin kapatılmasına karşı çıkan zihniyetle aynı zihniyetin varlığını görmekteyim.
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 06:02 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting aenigma x:
Political arguments will never "go anywhere" - they will never be resolved, but I love to hear points of view and I DO believe people learn from them. If there was a solution to political argument, there would be no such thing as opposing politicans !
In addition, your point of view and mine about what you like to see on TC is also a "pointless discussion" |
political arguements, issues would be solved when people starts to be happy with what they have in their hands and stop to have dreams about being one absolute power of the world...
what people doing here in Turkey is not politics at all... it is like this after Ataturks death... this is another thing... which was discussed before aswell
now, you say what you want to see and i say we agree or not... this is not important... the important is to share the knowledge without insulting eachothers...
now i have to finish my romantic poem translations as i have to DO something for what i want to see here... lets better thank to my inspiration... |
Name one person on this forum who wants to see absolute power of the world? Ahhhh well, it is the Turkish way to defend themselves by attacking on a completely different subject....
Yes, poems, translations and recipes - this is best 
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 06:11 pm |
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Quote: Quoting aenigma x:
political arguements, issues would be solved when people starts to be happy with what they have in their hands and stop to have dreams about being one absolute power of the world...
what people doing here in Turkey is not politics at all... it is like this after Ataturks death... this is another thing... which was discussed before aswell
now, you say what you want to see and i say we agree or not... this is not important... the important is to share the knowledge without insulting eachothers...
now i have to finish my romantic poem translations as i have to DO something for what i want to see here... lets better thank to my inspiration... |
Name one person on this forum who wants to see absolute power of the world? Ahhhh well, it is the Turkish way to defend themselves by attacking on a completely different subject....
Yes, poems, translations and recipes - this is best |
you asked for a solution to those political arguements run in the world which is a result of the wrong decisions of governments, which Turkey also does that too...
and i said my solution... it was a comment to countries policies not to persons comment here...
it looks that you completely misunderstood... see we are still talking here and i am trying explain my points of view...
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 06:11 pm |
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Quoting CARTEL: Quoting SuiGeneris: You can discuss anything... i am not against to that...
But obviously you are having no more than fights here, instead of learning things from eachother...
i also didnt like the way CARTEL-please dont offend but what you are doing is wrong aswell- discusses it here...
and azade... here the word you used "Kurdistan" is known as a country is wanted to be set up in those region...
not as that where mostly Kurdish people live...
and i am sure you were aware of that... and you would better simply mention the city you were living...
I am not against the discussion... I am against to such nonsense discussions goes nowhere...
And i believe romantic poetry translations and those translation requests are much better that this...
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benim yöntemimin neresi yanlış dostum bölücülük yapamaz kimse burda veya herhangi bir yerde.Kurdlerin çoğu pkk yanlısı bunu hepimiz biliyoruz tanıdığım çok iyi adamlarda var kurd ama çok azlar burda yöntem önemli değil amaç önemlidir.kimse birini seviyor diye kuzu postuna bürünüp onun yanlış fikirlerini topluma açık ve bu site gibi yabancıların bizi tanımaya çalıştığı bir ortama empoze edemez demekrosiye gelincede bölücükük uğruna yanlış bir ideolojinin peşinden gidenlerede demokrasi sağlanıcaksa o zaman ne hukuk kalır ne insan hakkı herkes bildiğini okusun o zaman.Burda bazıları kurdistanın varlığından bahsediyor öyle bir yerin var olmadığını herkes biliyor olması türkiyenin bölünmesi demekdir zaten kurdlerin haritasına göre doğu anadoluyu almışlar komple .bu fikri savunanlar şunu bilmeli onların içlerindede yaşayan bir sürü azınlık topluluk var her biri bölemeye çalışsa nasıl olur o ülkenin hali.benim isteğim bu denli hassas olduğumuz bir konuda daha dikkatli davranmalarıdır.bu acısını biz çekiyoruz ülke olarak.Burda danimarkadaki roj tv nin kapatılmasına karşı çıkan zihniyetle aynı zihniyetin varlığını görmekteyim. |
Anyone who can translate this? I like to know what is said.
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 06:18 pm |
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Anyway, back to the topic. I read in a Dutch forum that the police has arrested 8 people in this case but released them as well. In hurriyet there is an article including a picture of the possible perpetrator (I guess): http://www.haber7.com/haber.php?haber_id=213066
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 09:13 pm |
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http://www.agos.com.tr/
you can find Hrant Dink's latest articles in this webpage. Unlike what you might have heard from western media, most of the Turkish people are very sad because he loved his country, Turkey, and Turkish people.He also supported Turkey's EU membership. However, both Turkish and Armenian ultra-nationalists or racists did not like him. unfortunately, those who do not want a bright future for Turkish people killed him. He was a big lost for his family, for the Armenian community in Turkey, and for all Turkish people.
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 11:01 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: http://www.agos.com.tr/
you can find Hrant Dink's latest articles in this webpage. Unlike what you might have heard from western media, most of the Turkish people are very sad because he loved his country, Turkey, and Turkish people.He also supported Turkey's EU membership. However, both Turkish and Armenian ultra-nationalists or racists did not like him. unfortunately, those who do not want a bright future for Turkish people killed him. He was a big lost for his family, for the Armenian community in Turkey, and for all Turkish people. |
On request of Kaddersokak I'll add this: on the Dutch news yesterday and tonight they said that Turkish people are in grief, they really are upset because of Dink's death. Erdogan was three times on TV to explain and to prevent a crisis. They also said that in several newspapers - Hurriyet I remember the name of - the perpetrator was called a betrayer of the Turkish people. So not all westerners think that all Turkish people are nationalists.
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20 Jan 2007 Sat 11:09 pm |
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Quoting kaddersokak: most of the Turkish people are very sad because he loved his country, Turkey, and Turkish people. |
Kaddersokak, media overhere reported exactly what you are saying.
Quoting Trudy: on the Dutch news yesterday and tonight they said that Turkish people are in grief, they really are upset because of Dink's death. |
Same here, as far as I've seen there was no biased reporting at all.
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