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Lapsus linguae: Speak softly and carry a big dictionary
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1.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 30 Jan 2007 Tue 06:48 am

thought this might make a few of you laugh, especially with many of us *trying* to learn turkish or english through tc.

from http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=101433

JENNIFER EATON GÖKMEN
İSTANBUL

30.01.2007

Plenty of foreigners have had a good laugh at faulty Turkish-to-English translations. Now it’s payback time. See what mistakes we foreigners make while speaking Turkish…

Expats, you know you’re guilty of it. Most of us English-speaking foreigners are. Whether it comes from some innate protectiveness of our linguistic heritage or perhaps a habit of nit picking, it seems so easy to single out the mistakes non-native English speakers make while using “our” language.

Example: You glance at the menu your waiter offers and immediately start sniggering at the erroneous translations, pointing them out to the others at your table to share (a hopefully muted) a laugh.

I’m not judging you. I’m guilty of having done it myself. In fact, let me share with you some of my personal favorites:

Piliç Çevirmesi/Chicken Translation. Rotisserie chicken. “Çevirmek” means to translate, but also to turn.

Saç Gözleme/Hair Watching. Gözleme is a thin griddle bread. Here the words have been translated using the most common definitions rather than their contextual meanings. “Saç” does mean hair, but also means metal griddle. “Gözleme” does mean “observation,” but in the culinary use, it means “pancake”.

Mantı/Logi. Mantı is Turkish ravioli. This translation was most baffling until I realized that if you drop the “k” from “mantık” you get “mantı.” And if “mantık” means “logic,” then you could drop the “c” from “logic” to get the name of your dish!

Of course, mistranslations aren’t limited to the realm of restaurant menus. Neither are language mistakes confined to the domain of Turks learning English. We expats living in Turkey provide a good deal of linguistic blunders for Turks to laugh at as well -- if they weren’t too polite to point and laugh like we do!

Let’s reflect on some of the great mistakes expats in Turkey have made while stumbling through their acquisition of the local language. What follows are some first-hand favorites along with a few urban legends. Names changed to protect the innocent and/or embarrassed.

First there are the small, amusing mistakes of little consequence, like Donna’s insistence on “merdiven” (stair) soup instead of “mercimek” (lentil). Also in this category is Taya’s ingenious way of saying “no” before she had learned the word for it. She would say, “evet değil” (not yes). A little more awkward was Debby’s response to callers to indicate her husband wasn’t available. â€œİşiyor” (he’s urinating) she would say, instead of “çalışıyor” (he’s working).

These breaches are easily forgivable, but then there are the mortifying mistakes you feel you will never live down, those that keep coming back to haunt you…

Don’t have a cow
Giselle’s friend couldn’t understand the waiter’s indifference to her complaints of having an “inek” in her soup. He must have thought it quite natural to have a “cow” in the soup, if it were in fact a beef-based concoction. Certainly nothing to fuss about -- except that the poor lady had meant to say “sinek” (fly).

Don’t have a cow (the sequel)
Andy wondered why the bus driver refused to stop after his repeated and insistent demands to be let off. Instead of saying “inecek var” (someone is disembarking), he had actually been yelling, “İnek var! İnek var!” (There’s a cow! There’s a cow!)

Bon air-petit
John assumed that the people in the airport were smiling at him because they were so pleased to hear a foreigner making overtures of politeness in Turkish, since he was excusing himself profusely while making his way through the crowded baggage claim. Mentally congratulating himself as he walked away, John didn’t realize until much later that instead of using the correct word, “affedersiniz,” he’d been wishing everyone a good appetite, saying “afiyet olsun”!

Don’t get fresh
“How about two?!” smiled the baker, winking and nudging his colleague after Anna had walked into the bakery accidentally asking for a “taze erkek” (fresh man) instead of “taze ekmek” (fresh bread).

Service included, servers not
Sam couldn’t get any waiters to take his order. Each time he called out to a waiter, they would look at him strangely and back away. With Sam’s dreadful accent, his “bakar misin?” (will you attend [to me]?) came out sounding more like “bekar misin?” (are you single?).

The wrong tool for the job
Fiona’s mother got very strange looks indeed when she repeatedly offered the repairman the use of her self-described top of the line, industrial quality “makat” (anus) instead of her “matkap” (drill). Needless to say, the repairman made a hasty retreat.

A fast faster
A diplomat’s wife who was having trouble acclimating to Turkish cuisine found a novel way to politely decline food at a diplomatic function by fending off approaching waiters with a carefully memorized line: “oruçluyum” (I’m fasting). Sadly, her practiced attempt at proper social etiquette fell well short of the mark as she actually told each waiter “oros...” (I’m a prostitute)!

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 30 Jan 2007 Tue 07:46 am

I hope I will never make an 'oros...'-type mistake! lol

3.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Jan 2007 Tue 08:29 pm

This is priceless....thanks

4.       metehan2001
501 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 03:53 am

How mature person J.E. Gökmen is! I just admired her.

from the dictionary, 'mature'spiritually, mentally, or emotionally) mature (person).

Thanks, gezbelle for sending the post.

5.       Dilara
1153 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:19 am

Another great post gezbelle!
but I am sure any of us ıs safe from makıng such mıstakes whıle practıcıng! well I recently made one
I wanted to say 'yatıyorum' but I wrote 'yalıyorum' ın a message!

6.       bliss
900 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 08:00 am

Thank you Gezbelle for the post, it reminded me this:



Larry, this is Fattie; I mean, Hattie!


7.       Ayla
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 08:36 am

thank you gezbelle, so funny, I just saw it and it made my day... lol

8.       kai
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 08:53 am

Allahim I hope I don't make any mistakes like that when learning a foreign language! oh the shame!

9.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 09:50 am

what a nice little collection.certainly made me smile

10.       Chantal
587 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 11:48 am

Ahum.. I made the Isiyorum/calisiyorum one last week..

11.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 12:27 pm

lollol..

12.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 01:00 pm

It is not only those learning another language that get it wrong - but many an English person can get their words wrong. There was even a play written and the main character being called Mrs Malaprop after the word "malapropism" the comical misuse of words.

13.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 01:02 pm

Quoting libralady:

It is not only those learning another language that get it wrong - but many an English person can get their words wrong. There was even a play written and the main character being called Mrs Malaprop after the word "malapropism" the comical misuse of words.



i loved that play when i read it at college.off the subject but had 2 say it..sorry everyone

14.       kai
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:03 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

It is not only those learning another language that get it wrong - but many an English person can get their words wrong. There was even a play written and the main character being called Mrs Malaprop after the word "malapropism" the comical misuse of words.



i loved that play when i read it at college.off the subject but had 2 say it..sorry everyone



Sorry, going of the subject even more but that play, Mrs Malaprop...is that the same guy who wrote The school for Scandal?

15.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:05 pm

Quoting kai:

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

It is not only those learning another language that get it wrong - but many an English person can get their words wrong. There was even a play written and the main character being called Mrs Malaprop after the word "malapropism" the comical misuse of words.



i loved that play when i read it at college.off the subject but had 2 say it..sorry everyone



Sorry, going of the subject even more but that play, Mrs Malaprop...is that the same guy who wrote The school for Scandal?



the play isnt called mrs malaprop...it is called 'the rivals' by richard brinsley sheridan...

16.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:07 pm

Sheridan - yes he did! I found it on Wikipedia

17.       kai
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:20 pm

Quoting libralady:

Sheridan - yes he did! I found it on Wikipedia



I thought I was a little confused, that's why I asked because I thought Mrs Malaprop was a charater in it. Or am I wrong there too? :-S

18.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:27 pm

Quoting kai:

Quoting libralady:

Sheridan - yes he did! I found it on Wikipedia



I thought I was a little confused, that's why I asked because I thought Mrs Malaprop was a charater in it. Or am I wrong there too? :-S



no you are right there..mrs malaprop is a character in the play.. its very funny.good 2 read

19.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:46 pm

Wouldn't it be easier if you two just exchanged phone numbers?

20.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 04:52 pm

Quoting libralady:

Wouldn't it be easier if you two just exchanged phone numbers?



21.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 05:02 pm

Quoting libralady:

Wouldn't it be easier if you two just exchanged phone numbers?



who?:-S i'm lost..

22.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 05:45 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

Wouldn't it be easier if you two just exchanged phone numbers?



who?:-S i'm lost..





You and Kai of course!

23.       robyn :D
2640 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 05:49 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

Wouldn't it be easier if you two just exchanged phone numbers?



who?:-S i'm lost..





You and Kai of course!



ah ok..no lets not do that..

24.       kai
0 posts
 31 Jan 2007 Wed 06:27 pm

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

Quoting robyn :

Quoting libralady:

Wouldn't it be easier if you two just exchanged phone numbers?



who?:-S i'm lost..





You and Kai of course!



ah ok..no lets not do that..



lol yes...lets not lol

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