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In danger?: Hot tips for self-defense
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 02:53 am |
Most men learn through tough-and-tumble play during childhood how to defend themselves. Women don’t have this advantage and so it is of critical importance for females to learn self-protection.
The first line of defense is to try to stay out of harm’s way to begin with. Don’t walk alone at night or in deserted areas, but if you must, be aware of your surroundings. Thugs chose prey who look weak and easy to overcome, so walk tall and with confidence, always being aware of your surroundings. Listen to sounds from behind you. If there is no traffic, walk out in the street so that someone can’t easily dart out from a dark doorway or a building. If a car comes along on a deserted street and the driver asks for directions, keep walking. If the car follows along with you and the situation seems to be getting dangerous, turn around and walk the opposite direction; the car will not likely go into reverse to follow you, but if it does, run and scream. In the event you aren’t sure you are in danger, err on the safe side. It’s best to always follow your instincts -- intuition is on your side. If you feel uneasy in a particular situation, there is probable reason.
Sometimes a woman is attacked regardless of how careful she is. In the event of a physical attack, here are some tips to hurt/surprise your attacker so that you have time to get away.
Gouge at his eyes with your fingers or thumbs, or stab his eye with your key (walking along deserted streets or alone at night, carry your keys in your fist with one key sticking out between your first and second finger, between your knuckles. This makes an excellent weapon.)
If someone grabs your wrist, spread your fingers wide and quickly twist your wrist in the direction of the opposite shoulder. This will loosen his grip. Practice this technique with a friend.
If someone grabs you by the throat, pull your chin to your chest as hard as you can and KEEP IT THERE, while simultaneously trying to hurt him -- kick his shins, knee him between the legs, stomp on the top of his foot, etc. If you manage to get lose, RUN and scream.
If you are grabbed from behind by your hair or clothing, or around your stomach or chest, immediately drop into a squat. Your attacker will not be expecting this and it will throw him off. Break free by any means possible and run.
Bite or tear at his ears. Yank his hair… If you can grab the hair on the back of his head, pull it one way while pushing his chin the opposite way. Knee or kick him in the groin. With the palm of your hand, hit him with an upward hard thrust to the nose. Pinch his inner thigh. Claw him with your fingernails. All of these moves may hurt or shock your attacker enough to let you get away.
In addition to physically harming your attacker, use your brain as well. Stay calm. Say or do something he doesn’t expect. Pretend that you are going to vomit. If he is trying to drag you somewhere else, pretend to faint. Tell him you’re pregnant. Act stupid. Etc.
Knowing what to do in the event of an attack is important and right-readiness is key. Go over in your mind what you would do in various situations. Take a self-defense class or read a book on self protection. Be prepared.
The writer of this article was attacked in her home recently by an unknown male assailant and managed to live to tell about it. The attacker threw his jacket over her head and grabbed her from behind, arms pinned to her sides. She did not struggle much until he tried to drag her out of her house. At that point, she utilized a self-defense move she had learned: She flexed her body and arms to make herself as big as possible, then went suddenly small and limp, so that she could slide out of his “bear hug.†She slid to the floor and punched upward between his legs and began screaming a man’s name (pretending there was a man in the house somewhere). The attacker fled.
03.02.2007
BRIGET MURPHY
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 02:55 am |
"knee him between the legs"; it really works as the weakest body part of men is between the legs.
(both physically and mentally )
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 03:05 am |
thanks for pointing that out to us qdemir
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 04:17 am |
Quoting qdemir: "knee him between the legs"; it really works as the weakest body part of men is between the legs.
(both physically and mentally ) |
Have you been kicked there then Qdemir?  
Actually, the best way to grab a mans hair is my clenching it in your hands, twisting it then yanking as hard as possible Little experienced
Also if you are not able to "look tall and confident" it doesn't matter, because when your attacker goes to attack you, they might get a little suprised when you end up being stronger than they anticipated.
Warning to attackers - never judge a book by it's cover
Also tips from me:
If you are in a deserted area there is no point in hitting your attacker once getting free and running, because the chances are they will chase after you because they know it will take a while before you are seen or heard by anyone who may help.
So instead if you get the chance to hit them, do not stop, keep hitting them and make sure they stay down.
I know it may seem a little violent to make sure someone is basically beaten unconsious before you flee but if you don't then it might turn the opposite way or even worse for yourself if you don't.
If your attacker bear hugs you and you are unable to do what that lady did then use your legs because when your attacker picks you up, your legs when bent are in perfect level with the private area.
If your attacker manages to get you on the ground and sits on top of you and manages to pin your arms down, still don't panic, use your legs and if possible twist your body underneath that person as it makes them lose balance a little when doing so and if you use your legs to make them lose there balance altogether then it could be you who is on top of your attacker and then with the key in your hand....do some serious damage and run like hell
Also the femur is the longest and strongest bone in the body so make sure you use it! along with your elbow!
When kicking your attacker head on then make sure you "front snap kick" them. The front snap kick is basically lifting your knee at a 90 degree angle and snapping your leg out and back in as quick and as hard as possible. The snap kick allows you to use full power and snapping it back in doesn't allow your attacker to grab you.
Keep punching to a minimum as it makes you get closer to your attacker and also legs are a stronger and more powerful force
If you need any more...I'll be glad to help  
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 04:38 am |
Quoting kai: Quoting qdemir: "knee him between the legs"; it really works as the weakest body part of men is between the legs.
(both physically and mentally ) |
Have you been kicked there then Qdemir?  
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i was thinking that too...
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 04:40 am |
self-defence 101 with kai
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 04:46 am |
Quoting gezbelle: self-defence 101 with kai |
@ Gezbelle....bring 'em on
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 08:38 am |
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 09:13 am |
from personal experience, I find that those tips will work when being attacked,having a personal alarm at all times will also help as u simply press the button and it makes a noise loud enough to create a commotion, which should bring aid whilst you are defending yourself.alternatively if you do have to travel at night alone and you are nervous, never show this, put your head up high and walk strongly.be aware of your surroundings but do not be so aware that you are looking around you every 5 seconds, this merely shows that you are nervous and if anyone is looking for trouble they will look at you as an easy target.
So be confident, be aware and be prepared!
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 09:16 am |
Quoting kai:
If your attacker manages to get you on the ground and sits on top of you and manages to pin your arms down, still don't panic, use your legs and if possible twist your body underneath that person as it makes them lose balance a little when doing so and if you use your legs to make them lose there balance altogether then it could be you who is on top of your attacker and then with the key in your hand....do some serious damage and run like hell
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alternatively, if you have the upper body strength then use it, headbutt them.this will startle them and they will lose their grip giving you time to get yourself up and knee them in the privates as you get up.
kneeing them in the head several times teaches them a lesson not to pick on women as well, then maybe they will think twice before doing it again.
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:57 am |
As far as I can see girls on here don't need any tips for self-defence. They already know about it as much as they can write a book. You don't apply these techniques on your boyfriends,do you?
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 12:00 pm |
Quoting qdemir: As far as I can see girls on here don't need any tips for self-defence. They already know about it as much as they can write a book. You don't apply these techniques on your boyfriends,do you?  |
Hell! Well I have not got a clue!!! I have never hurt anyone in my life and hope I never have to
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 12:02 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: As far as I can see girls on here don't need any tips for self-defence. They already know about it as much as they can write a book. You don't apply these techniques on your boyfriends,do you?  |
Hell! Well I have not got a clue!!! I have never hurt anyone in my life and hope I never have to  |
Haven't you ever wanted to?
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 12:10 pm |
Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: As far as I can see girls on here don't need any tips for self-defence. They already know about it as much as they can write a book. You don't apply these techniques on your boyfriends,do you?  |
Hell! Well I have not got a clue!!! I have never hurt anyone in my life and hope I never have to  |
Haven't you ever wanted to? |
Never! If I was attacked I guess I would have to, but in an argument words hurt more than actions
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 12:29 pm |
Quoting qdemir: As far as I can see girls on here don't need any tips for self-defence. They already know about it as much as they can write a book. You don't apply these techniques on your boyfriends,do you?  |
no, it was from personal experience, i dont okkes would appreciate being manhandled in that manner
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 01:18 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: As far as I can see girls on here don't need any tips for self-defence. They already know about it as much as they can write a book. You don't apply these techniques on your boyfriends,do you?  |
Hell! Well I have not got a clue!!! I have never hurt anyone in my life and hope I never have to  |
+ 1.....I guess I've been lucky
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 07:47 pm |
Unfortunately I had to defend myself once, not so successful I have to say. I'm not going into details but a lot of 'tricks' mentioned here before I used and it didn't work. The guy was prepared for all of them. Sometimes it still gives me horrible views but on the other hand I'm a big girl and I'm over it (as far a woman can be).
Later friends said I used the wrong tricks. Guys DO expect you to aim at their private parts so they are alert. What they do not expect, my friends told me, is a kick at the shin bone, seems to be very painful and also to stamp on their instep (especially when you wear stiletto heels) was advised.
I hope I will never ever have to use those tricks again and I really wish none of you have to.
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 08:42 pm |
Quoting qdemir: Most men learn through tough-and-tumble play during childhood how to defend themselves. Women don’t have this advantage
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Hey not true!!!! I'll speak out for the other tomboys!!! Stop throwing all women into the same barrel!
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 09:02 pm |
Quoting Capoeira: Quoting qdemir: Most men learn through tough-and-tumble play during childhood how to defend themselves. Women don’t have this advantage
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Hey not true!!!! I'll speak out for the other tomboys!!! Stop throwing all women into the same barrel! |
go Capoeira! you tell em girl! ....You know...I've beaten more men than they have women  One time, one of my mates was trying to show off in front of his mates and went to kick me but he was too slow pulling back his leg so I grabbed it and chucked it in the air so his body went with it and he landed flat on his ass!
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:17 pm |
I'm really small so I don't know what I should do if I ever got attacked. Once when I found out my friend's boyfriend at the time was cheating on her I knocked him unconsious in a single blow But I have never actually been attacked. For a while I lived in next to a banana garden in Turkey and after hearing that some men tried to rape a girl a couple of times and being called on by men driving by in cars I worried for myself. I'm not proud to say but I started to bring a knife when going out by myself during the nights.
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:44 pm |
if i was attacked i am sure that i will panic and forget all the tips i know
it's just hard for some people to handle such sudden situations
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:45 pm |
and even if i had the key and had the chance to punch the attacker's eyes with it
i think i will be too afraid
punching an eye with a key is scary itself :-S
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:48 pm |
Quoting Snow Drop: and even if i had the key and had the chance to punch the attacker's eyes with it
i think i will be too afraid
punching an eye with a key is scary itself :-S |
But what if you feared for your life?
I'm not sure what I would do myself. I hope I wouldnt worry about hurting the attacker. It's better he gets hurt than me.
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:56 pm |
Quoting azade: Quoting Snow Drop: and even if i had the key and had the chance to punch the attacker's eyes with it
i think i will be too afraid
punching an eye with a key is scary itself :-S |
But what if you feared for your life?
I'm not sure what I would do myself. I hope I wouldnt worry about hurting the attacker. It's better he gets hurt than me. |
yea i guess i am not prepared for attacker's yet
maybe some kick boxing classes can help
it's just that we always tell ourselves "no that's not gonna happen to me" when we hear stories of tragedies and disasters, instead of getting prepared
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05 Feb 2007 Mon 11:59 pm |
Quoting Snow Drop: Quoting azade: Quoting Snow Drop: and even if i had the key and had the chance to punch the attacker's eyes with it
i think i will be too afraid
punching an eye with a key is scary itself :-S |
But what if you feared for your life?
I'm not sure what I would do myself. I hope I wouldnt worry about hurting the attacker. It's better he gets hurt than me. |
yea i guess i am not prepared for attacker's yet
maybe some kick boxing classes can help
it's just that we always tell ourselves "no that's not gonna happen to me" when we hear stories of tragedies and disasters, instead of getting prepared
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That's true. I have also done that in the past - I was thinking "no nobody could get me down I'm too strong and I can run very quickly" But you never know. You hear stories all the time and frankly it makes me worried sometimes.
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 12:06 am |
Quoting azade:
That's true. I have also done that in the past - I was thinking "no nobody could get me down I'm too strong and I can run very quickly" But you never know. You hear stories all the time and frankly it makes me worried sometimes. |
even if u couldn't get them down atleast u have a bigger chance of giving yourself some time to run away by taking such classes i guess
so don't worry your classes are usefull but i hope u never need to use them
and yea u can never know because sometimes even skinny boys can surprise u with how strong they can be
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 03:09 pm |
I always carry tear gas in my bag and it is located where i could easily grasp it and also, always have situational awareness!!!!
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 05:33 pm |
Quoting Pizza: I always carry tear gas in my bag and it is located where i could easily grasp it and also, always have situational awareness!!!! |
Tear Gas???
Oh, what a sheltered life I lead!
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 05:39 pm |
Quoting Pizza: I always carry tear gas in my bag and it is located where i could easily grasp it and also, always have situational awareness!!!! |
Well, besides the fact that tear gas is very prohibited in my country (maximum punishment is 4 years in prison!) I would never take that with me. Not that I would feel sorry but because I found out the very hard way that things can be used against yourself! Men who want to attack you are warned for stuff like that, they are not innocent lambs. And the attack itself is horrible enough, why should I take the chance also get tear gas in my eyes as well? Double problems?
I trust on my common sense and intuition now. I try not to go into places or to/with people I get an 'internal warning' for. I won't let my life be led by the thought something can happen to me again, I'm much too independant for that.
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 06:44 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting Pizza: I always carry tear gas in my bag and it is located where i could easily grasp it and also, always have situational awareness!!!! |
Well, besides the fact that tear gas is very prohibited in my country (maximum punishment is 4 years in prison!) I would never take that with me. Not that I would feel sorry but because I found out the very hard way that things can be used against yourself! Men who want to attack you are warned for stuff like that, they are not innocent lambs. And the attack itself is horrible enough, why should I take the chance also get tear gas in my eyes as well? Double problems?
I trust on my common sense and intuition now. I try not to go into places or to/with people I get an 'internal warning' for. I won't let my life be led by the thought something can happen to me again, I'm much too independant for that. |
Thanks Trudy, from now on, i won't bring it anymore. And one thing more, i got no any chances of going to other places except home, office due to the demand of my job and i drive myself in going to and from these places.
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 07:50 pm |
I'm used to fighing more that once a week and it can get rough, especially if you have to keep going and attacking back at your attacker in order to run free etc.
But to be honest when your fighting to keep out of harms way, though you lose breath very quickly and it takes up a lot of energy you don't notice because all you focus on is getting away from them as quick as possible and you will do anything in that situation, whether it's screaming or doing serious harm to the attacker.
Some people worry about what damage they can do, but those people need to keep one thing in mind: If they are willing to attack you, then what are they willing to do to make sure you keep quiet afterwards?
Also keep in mind it may be your life or theirs at stake. Even if you did end up doing serious harm or worse, never feel guilty or feel like you shouldn't have done it. Afterall if you hadn't just think of what you could be missing if you didn't.
Also, another great tip: If you haven't got that many strengths, just remember the weaknesses of your attacker. That doesn't generally mean the private parts for a man, but for the actual human body. For e.g. eyes, neck etc. It is no good hitting somone in the jaw because it is the strongest and biggest bone in the face and won't to the damage you would need to get free.
Another move:
It is known as the "knife hand" and it is formed easily by pressing the fingers of the open hand together with the tips of the fingers curled inward (without cupping the hands), while the thumb is bent and held tightly against the side of the hand. The striking suface of the "knife hand" is the "blade" edge of hand. If you use great force you can even break someone's neck with this move.
But make sure the ends of the fingers are curled inwards to prevent the fingers from being broken in the event that the fingertips are hit directly. In this way the fingers will curl into the palm and not backwards. The same with the thumb.
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 08:09 pm |
I think you have to weigh up the situation very carefully. Pain induces anger and addrenalin. What could have been an assault or mugging could become murder if you fight back
However, there are other occasions when you have to literally fight for your life.
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06 Feb 2007 Tue 08:27 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: What could have been an assault or mugging could become murder if you fight back
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I didn't fight for my life then but to not get hurt. It wasn't enough, he raped me. Maybe I should have fight harder and murdered him!
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07 Feb 2007 Wed 12:22 am |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting aenigma x: What could have been an assault or mugging could become murder if you fight back
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I didn't fight for my life then but to not get hurt. It wasn't enough, he raped me. Maybe I should have fight harder and murdered him! |
How awful for you - but surely this is too much personal information for sharing on this site...??!!
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07 Feb 2007 Wed 07:53 am |
It's obviously a very personal decision to share this kind of news. I respect any woman who is brave enough to speak about this terrible crime. It takes courage and strength to do so and I am sure it is part of the healing process.
For what it's worth, all this talk of how to defend yourself is helpful, but there it is no substitution for taking a self-defense course.
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07 Feb 2007 Wed 08:25 am |
Quoting girleegirl: It's obviously a very personal decision to share this kind of news. I respect any woman who is brave enough to speak about this terrible crime. It takes courage and strength to do so and I am sure it is part of the healing process.
For what it's worth, all this talk of how to defend yourself is helpful, but there it is no substitution for taking a self-defense course. |
The only reason I told it is to make women understand that what ever you do, it can happen to you. I do not want to scare anyone, but I hear sometimes women say: hey, I got a knife of I 'just' kick him between the legs. Feel as secure as you can, but never rely just on a weapon or even a self-defence course (because a course in the past will not protect you if you don't practice regularly) and never ever feel sorry for the one who tries to assault you. Be alert and stay alert! And let experiences from the past don't live your life in the future! (And it's 23 years ago, so the pain is mostly gone - don't feel sorry for me.)
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07 Feb 2007 Wed 09:05 pm |
Trudy,
İ admire you alot,it takes lots of good well and courage not to let some horrible situation like this affect your life.
As i understand from the results 'your essays,posts' that,you didn't run and hide from what happened,but you stand and challenged it.
Determined to have your life the way you want,not the way been forced upon you.
Way to go girl,and best of luck
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07 Feb 2007 Wed 11:58 pm |
Quoting Trudy: The only reason I told it is to make women understand that what ever you do, it can happen to you. I do not want to scare anyone, but I hear sometimes women say: hey, I got a knife of I 'just' kick him between the legs. Feel as secure as you can, but never rely just on a weapon or even a self-defence course (because a course in the past will not protect you if you don't practice regularly) and never ever feel sorry for the one who tries to assault you. Be alert and stay alert! And let experiences from the past don't live your life in the future! (And it's 23 years ago, so the pain is mostly gone - don't feel sorry for me.) |
It certainly wasn’t a matter of “feeling sorry†for you. I think all women know the stigma attached to this act as evidenced by the fact that the vast majority of rapes go unreported. No matter how long it has been, it still takes courage to discuss. I think it does help other women and I applaud the action.
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08 Feb 2007 Thu 02:41 am |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting aenigma x: What could have been an assault or mugging could become murder if you fight back
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I didn't fight for my life then but to not get hurt. It wasn't enough, he raped me. Maybe I should have fight harder and murdered him! |
Strong and brave woman! I applaud your courage to not remain silent! Indeed, many women can learn from your experience as well as feel encouraged to keep going after life's unfairness knocks at the doors!
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