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icmeyi isterdim, icmek istiyorum
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03 Mar 2007 Sat 11:21 pm |
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bu sütü içmek istiyorum.
o sütü içmeyi çok isterdim.
What is the difference? Why do we need to use içmeyi in one of the sentence and içmek in the other, while the main verb (istemek is the same.
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 12:39 am |
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there is no big difference..
"içmek" is kind of verb in the sentence "to drink"
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içmeyi = içme + y + i
"içme" is noun form of the verb
i hope this made sense a bit
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 12:49 am |
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Quoting ceviz: bu sütü içmek istiyorum.
o sütü içmeyi çok isterdim.
What is the difference? Why do we need to use içmeyi in one of the sentence and içmek in the other, while the main verb (istemek is the same. |
bu sütü içmek istiyorum --> i want to drink this milk ( you want to drink that milk and you can still drink, you have a chance to drink)
o sütü içmeyi çok isterdim --> i wish i could drink that milk ( you wanted to drink that milk but you didn't, and you don't have the chance to drink that milk now )
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 01:16 am |
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isterdim ,can it also mean, i wanted ,and i used to want?
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 10:02 pm |
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Thanks a lot I know, what they mean (after all i mad up the examples) I just wanted to know, when do we need to use i
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04 Mar 2007 Sun 10:04 pm |
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sorry it remained a fragment
so my original question was the following:
when do we need to use the içmeyi kind of verb form with istemek, and when do we need to use the içmek form with the same (istemek) main verb. If you just have any hints please tell me
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 12:22 am |
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Quoting ceviz: bu sütü içmek istiyorum.
o sütü içmeyi çok isterdim.
What is the difference? Why do we need to use içmeyi in one of the sentence and içmek in the other, while the main verb (istemek is the same. |
I think the only difference is "çok". Look at the alternatives:
Bu sütü içmeyi çok istiyorum
O sütü içmek isterdim
When you add "çok", it needs something with -i, just because it becomes definite word group. İçmek is used by -i if what you want is known or definite, or without a suffix if what you want is undefinite or unknown.
Let me try making this simpler:
Araba istiyorum << I want a car, no matter which is.
Arabayı istiyorum << there is a car, we know it, and I want it.
If you want to say "I want very much", then the form becomes as if everything is known:
Arabayı çok istiyorum. << No matter if we know the car or not. The most important thing is that you want it very much
If you say "araba çok istiyorum", it will be wrong.
In your question, our sentence is like it. What you want is "sütü içmek" and if you use it without "çok", then it can be both:
Bu sütü içmek istiyorum (general usage)
Bu sütü içmeyi istiyorum ("içme"+"i", "y" is buffer. "drink" action expressed)
Notice: It can be also "içmeği"="içmek"+"i" but it sounds very weird/not common.
But if you use "çok", you have to add -i suffix to this group:
Bu sütü içmeyi çok istiyorum. ("y" is buffer)
"istiyorum" means "I want", "isterdim" means "if I could, I wish"
I hope this helps.
Kolay gelsin
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 01:32 am |
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as far as I understand it the meyi ending means to like to
but I'm a new learner.....!
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 02:05 am |
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sorry, ignore me, thats wrong !
its used when an infinitive stem is used as a noun, it becomes like any other noun and needs to be given a possessive ending ie it relates to the next verb in the sentence- short infinitive - take off the k from the mek/mak
so içmek to drink becomes içmeyi
pisirmeyi biraktı - he stopped cooking
koşmaya başladı - he began to run
if adding den,ten ending long infinitive is used, so the mak/mek stays on end
pişirmekten bıktım - I'm fed up of ( from ) cooking
hopefully this makes sense....
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07 Mar 2007 Wed 10:07 am |
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Quoting caliptrix:
Notice: It can be also "içmeği"="içmek"+"i" but it sounds very weird/not common.
ıt isn't true as we have a noun for it (içme/drinking) anyway.
So why do we use "içmek"
"-mek" doesn't take "-i" and "-e" suffixes
Some people say "eğlenmeğe geldik" but it is wrong.
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