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I miss what Turkish Class was...
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 04:15 am |
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As an old member I feel gloomy when I remember what this site used to be like in the past...It was a nice shelter to learn turkish and make friends, It still is a good one with many helpful members but the old members like me will understand what I meant by saying that "We have lost something" as a community...
In spite of this feeling, I wont forget all the things I learnt and shared here!
Greetings classmates, new and old ones!
Dilara
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 04:45 am |
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So what exactly did it use to be that it's not any more? Can you be more specific?
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 12:38 pm |
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 02:31 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: The thrill is gone. I don't feel like writing anything serious anymore. It has become all jive talking. |
As I mentioned in another post, there is a myriad of nonsense threads.
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 04:54 pm |
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Quoting libralady:
As I mentioned in another post, there is a myriad of nonsense threads. |
and for once, i am not the perpetrator 
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 05:54 pm |
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thats a part of life,things become less excited in time when you used
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 07:46 pm |
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yes we have lost something - like do you remember when we had the night crew - those that did the nightshift will know what i am talking about.
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 07:52 pm |
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Quoting gilly: yes we have lost something - like do you remember when we had the night crew - those that did the nightshift will know what i am talking about. |
'Insomniacs United' you mean! 
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 08:23 pm |
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Quoting gilly: yes we have lost something - like do you remember when we had the night crew - those that did the nightshift will know what i am talking about. |
i am no longer a proud member of that shift 
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23 Mar 2007 Fri 11:41 pm |
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Quoting Dilara: As an old member I feel gloomy when I remember what this site used to be like in the past...It was a nice shelter to learn turkish and make friends, It still is a good one with many helpful members but the old members like me will understand what I meant by saying that "We have lost something" as a community...
In spite of this feeling, I wont forget all the things I learnt and shared here!
Greetings classmates, new and old ones!
Dilara |
+1
Merhaba Dilara
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 12:29 am |
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Quoting gilly: yes we have lost something - like do you remember when we had the night crew - those that did the nightshift will know what i am talking about. |
+1
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 12:37 am |
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Quoting gilly: yes we have lost something - like do you remember when we had the night crew - those that did the nightshift will know what i am talking about. |
+1907
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 12:58 am |
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 01:02 am |
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ahahha
so who is guilty ?
users who hhv left here ..
or the users who wants them to leave...
" kendim ettim kendim buldum
gul gibi sarardim soldum
eyvah "
i really like this forum.
So funny
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 01:15 am |
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 01:17 am |
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Even though I haven't been here for a long time I understand what you mean. It was really nice when there was a defined group of regular users, but lately I feel that some of them are running away. It's saddening, really. The site has not changed when it comes to learning ressources, only social-wise. I can only wonder why
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 01:38 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Are you trying to help solve a problem or are u trying to show how to complicate matters?
As long as it is so easy for people to take new nicknames, we cannot expect them to assume the responsibility of the things they write.
I suggest that a more strict validation process is implemented which can ban not only certain nicks but also
the ip's they are associated with. This would make life a little bit more difficult for evil doers.
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i agree with vineyards..
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 01:43 am |
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Quoting vineyards: What has caused this. Maybe we need more moderation. People swear at each other or ridicule one another for months and nothing happens. |
Look here! Our priest, while not having been without swears, throws sermons of swearing here and there!
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 01:54 am |
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Quoting Quasimodo: Quoting vineyards: What has caused this. Maybe we need more moderation. People swear at each other or ridicule one another for months and nothing happens. |
Look here! Our priest, while not having been without swears, throws sermons of swearing here and there! |
Oh stop it please! You're not contributing. This is exactly what the problem is about.
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 02:30 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Are you trying to help solve a problem or are u trying to show how to complicate matters?
As long as it is so easy for people to take new nicknames, we cannot expect them to assume the responsibility of the things they write.
I suggest that a more strict validation process is implemented which can ban not only certain nicks but also
the ip's they are associated with. This would make life a little bit more difficult for evil doers.
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what i said is true. if there is no problem with the -recpectful- users like you. why they left here ? problem is about the left users who are helpful ha ? - i was not here before
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 02:59 am |
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Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-- Shakespeare, "The Tempest"
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 07:14 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting Dilara: As an old member I feel gloomy when I remember what this site used to be like in the past...It was a nice shelter to learn turkish and make friends, It still is a good one with many helpful members but the old members like me will understand what I meant by saying that "We have lost something" as a community...
In spite of this feeling, I wont forget all the things I learnt and shared here!
Greetings classmates, new and old ones!
Dilara |
+1
Merhaba Dilara |
Merhaba Canlı canım! nasılsın? seni görmek güzel arkadaşım!
Thank you everybody for your opınıons and sharing your thoughts about thıs subject ... I saw I was not wrong by saying we had lost something but I hope we can bring the 'magic' and the great old members back and keep the new ones that are a real and wonderful contributıon to the sıte!
Selamlar!
Dilara
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24 Mar 2007 Sat 12:28 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting Dilara: As an old member I feel gloomy when I remember what this site used to be like in the past...It was a nice shelter to learn turkish and make friends, It still is a good one with many helpful members but the old members like me will understand what I meant by saying that "We have lost something" as a community...
In spite of this feeling, I wont forget all the things I learnt and shared here!
Greetings classmates, new and old ones!
Dilara |
+1
Merhaba Dilara |
I understand what Dilara means 
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28 Mar 2007 Wed 01:04 am |
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So what do you guys think is the reason for TC not being what it used to be?
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28 Mar 2007 Wed 01:23 am |
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Quoting vineyards: What has caused this. Maybe we need more moderation. People swear at each other or ridicule one another for months and nothing happens. |
I am not aware of this vineyards. I don't think the level of rudeness has gone up... or I'm oblivious to it  . I wish we could have a better way to ensure that deleted users can't come back, but I don't see what better could be done about it. The only thing is marking spammers and reporting misbehavior and we'll be deleting such users more efficiently or dealing with the problems they cause.
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 01:58 am |
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Quoting Dilara: As an old member I feel gloomy when I remember what this site used to be like in the past...It was a nice shelter to learn turkish and make friends, It still is a good one with many helpful members but the old members like me will understand what I meant by saying that "We have lost something" as a community...
In spite of this feeling, I wont forget all the things I learnt and shared here!
Greetings classmates, new and old ones!
Dilara |
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 03:35 am |
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Quoting gilly: yes we have lost something - like do you remember when we had the night crew - those that did the nightshift will know what i am talking about. |
people used to be on at night?
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 03:44 am |
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I think the difference here now is the sensitivity levelamongst the users. Before, all topics could be discussed with an open mind, an no attempt to be self-rightous or hurtful. I think we are seeing alot of both of these qualities in people the last few months in the posts they create and their responses to others.
I do think that the better monitoring of the chat room is a great idea and can only bring the site back to where we all want it to be. Inşallah...
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 11:41 am |
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Quoting KeithL: I think the difference here now is the sensitivity levelamongst the users. Before, all topics could be discussed with an open mind, an no attempt to be self-rightous or hurtful. I think we are seeing alot of both of these qualities in people the last few months in the posts they create and their responses to others.
I do think that the better monitoring of the chat room is a great idea and can only bring the site back to where we all want it to be. Inşallah... |
Keith you are spot on!! Where as once I would have a say, give my opinion, I now think that I am going to offend someone because I have an opinion, which not everyone agrees with and vice versa.
And because I am not Turkish I should not comment or have an opinion on Turkish subjects. I am also wary about starting up a new topic for fear of repercussions. So yes, it is a sensitivity issue.
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 01:01 pm |
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 05:26 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Libralady I am not a cop. I have no authority over anyone of you. I just explain my idea. Why do you feel restricted?
Anyone having an idea is free to post his/her idea here. Anyone is free to criticize it. Some of us call some others self-rightous. Well this is not very polite. I would prefer that you write your own version of the truth and we might criticize your arguments rather than your personalities.
A number of times I have declared the basis of my opinions. I attempted to systematize my thoughts. What I got in return was criticism directed to my personality or culture. Please, answer opinions with opinions, I suspect some members here don't know how to discuss. Because they easily abondon the subject and begin attacking the personality of the other party.
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I am not talking about you!!
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05 Apr 2007 Thu 09:11 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I think the difference here now is the sensitivity levelamongst the users. Before, all topics could be discussed with an open mind, an no attempt to be self-rightous or hurtful. I think we are seeing alot of both of these qualities in people the last few months in the posts they create and their responses to others.
I do think that the better monitoring of the chat room is a great idea and can only bring the site back to where we all want it to be. Inşallah... |
I actually don't understand your point KeithL. I don't think that discussing sensitive issues was without turmoil before. Do you remember pre-Erdinc times and then Erdinc times? In pre-Erdinc times any kind of cultural discussion ended with swearing and offended people, in Erdinc times discussions were strictly controlled, and what is so wrong now? I don't see anything really... I was thinking that it got better, people seem know better what's ok and what's not - which doesn't mean that somebody won't get offended here and there. I wonder if there are other people who feel the same way about this.
I am somehow tempted to think that the later slow-down in the forums is rather due to lack of new energetic members. The older members who are very valuable, they are naturally comfortable in their own corners here and don't feel the need of sparking discussions. I think the web site for older members who feel like it lost something faces problems of a long term relationship that is about to get over the first stages of infatuation .
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 12:44 am |
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Catwoman,
That is exactly right too. But we all agree that we would like to see more postive energy here. With good weather coming, maybe that will spill into the forums.
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 01:24 am |
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 01:39 am |
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What do you mean by 'moderate us' vineyards? If you were the owner of this site, what would you do differently?
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 01:47 am |
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 01:57 am |
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It looks like things haven't changed a whole lot, since my absence.
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 02:01 am |
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welcome back teaschip
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 02:58 am |
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Quoting vineyards: I would immediately ban some users. That would be the first thing I would do. I would ban them again when they came back. As far as I can observe they are still here and in good health. |
we do that... do you have somebody specific in mind?
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 08:34 am |
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Now thats a great idea for a thread...
WHO SHOULD WE BAN NEXT????
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 08:49 am |
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Quoting KeithL: Now thats a great idea for a thread...
WHO SHOULD WE BAN NEXT???? |
Boy, that would sure stir things up around here!
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 12:30 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Now thats a great idea for a thread...
WHO SHOULD WE BAN NEXT???? |
why bother banning people..as soon as one idiot goes another replaces them.....
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 01:34 pm |
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Quoting robyn : as soon as one idiot goes another replaces them..... |
Sad but true!!!
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 02:57 pm |
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Quoting robyn : Quoting KeithL: Now thats a great idea for a thread...
WHO SHOULD WE BAN NEXT???? |
why bother banning people..as soon as one idiot goes another replaces them..... |
Still the same idiot, they rejoin under another name!! Look at the deleted user list!!
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 06:40 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: It looks like things haven't changed a whole lot, since my absence. |
Teaschip, my witch sister, welcome back here, we miss you here
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06 Apr 2007 Fri 09:10 pm |
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Quoting libralady: Quoting robyn : Quoting KeithL: Now thats a great idea for a thread...
WHO SHOULD WE BAN NEXT???? |
why bother banning people..as soon as one idiot goes another replaces them..... |
Still the same idiot, they rejoin under another name!! Look at the deleted user list!! |
Maybe would be beter to please the admin to post in the menu thread "Men in search for wives"? 
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07 Apr 2007 Sat 12:37 am |
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07 Apr 2007 Sat 09:33 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Quote:
Maybe would be beter to please the admin to post in the menu thread "Men in search for wives"? |
Or vice versa. |
Yeah
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09 Apr 2007 Mon 08:39 am |
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Quoting nastica: Quoting vineyards: Quote:
Maybe would be beter to please the admin to post in the menu thread "Men in search for wives"? |
Or vice versa. |
Yeah |
Daha çok İngilizce.
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10 Apr 2007 Tue 10:43 pm |
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Quote:
Daha çok İngilizce. |
Is that so!!
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20 Apr 2007 Fri 01:30 pm |
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Hi everyone,
I think the problem is not only some users' intellectual level, and their misbehaviour but also the lack of interesting topics. I used to chat here days and nights with Capo,Kai, kardeslerim and many others...and I used to have hard discussions with catwoman but not anymore... Because I was spending time in forums until people enters into chat room then I was chatting with them. But I cant find any interesting topic anymore to spend my time so I leave after 15 minutes..
As u see I noticed this topic 10 days after the last message :-S
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20 Apr 2007 Fri 02:53 pm |
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I think that you are right alperhkn but then we also have to do something about it, yani we can't sit around and complain because on some level we also have a responsibility
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20 Apr 2007 Fri 06:30 pm |
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Quoting alperhkn: Hi everyone,
I think the problem is not only some users' intellectual level, and their misbehaviour but also the lack of interesting topics. I used to chat here days and nights with Capo,Kai, kardeslerim and many others...and I used to have hard discussions with catwoman but not anymore... Because I was spending time in forums until people enters into chat room then I was chatting with them. But I cant find any interesting topic anymore to spend my time so I leave after 15 minutes..
As u see I noticed this topic 10 days after the last message :-S |
Like some others, you say there are no interesting topics anymore. Other people miss 'the old days'. To me, as a relative newbee (september 2006) that remains a mystery. What do you miss? What are interesting topics for you? I noticed that on many touristic questions hardly answers are given, politics and religion are strictly forbidden and the ones that are allowed do not seldom end in calling other people names. Can you clear things up please?
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21 Apr 2007 Sat 05:53 am |
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Quoting alperhkn: I used to have hard discussions with catwoman but not anymore... :-S |
I didn't know you missed me alperhkn... I KNEW you were provoking me because you were enjoying those discussions! (j/k) See? you come, post one thing and it gets exciting again .
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21 Apr 2007 Sat 08:38 am |
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Quoting alperhkn: I used to chat here days and nights with Capo,Kai, kardeslerim and many others... |
Ahhhhh..Yep, without a doubt, those were the good 'ole days.
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21 Apr 2007 Sat 01:50 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting alperhkn: I used to have hard discussions with catwoman but not anymore... :-S |
I didn't know you missed me alperhkn... I KNEW you were provoking me because you were enjoying those discussions! (j/k) See? you come, post one thing and it gets exciting again . |
In fact Catwoman, I miss beating your modern looking-old fashioned ideas all the time  
"What are interesting topics for you? I noticed that on many touristic questions hardly answers are given, politics and religion are strictly forbidden..."
what is interesting for me, what is beneficial for humanity.. this is a website which is full of foreign people who wants to learn about real Turkey. Many treacheries are being doen in Turkey these days (for instance; some cruel people are trying to show Turkish people as if they are enemies of Christians etc...) If there will be such topics which will help people to notice and realize the smiling face of Turkey, and many other actual topics which should not be locked unless a personal rudeness happens then I personally keep writing..(by the way, I will be in China for ten days, if someone will start such a topic and if I will not be able to reply, please forgive me)
I couldnt find anything worth to write among the last 50 discussion messages....
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21 Apr 2007 Sat 06:54 pm |
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Quoting alperhkn: "What are interesting topics for you? I noticed that on many touristic questions hardly answers are given, politics and religion are strictly forbidden..."
what is interesting for me, what is beneficial for humanity.. this is a website which is full of foreign people who wants to learn about real Turkey. Many treacheries are being doen in Turkey these days (for instance; some cruel people are trying to show Turkish people as if they are enemies of Christians etc...) If there will be such topics which will help people to notice and realize the smiling face of Turkey, and many other actual topics which should not be locked unless a personal rudeness happens then I personally keep writing..(by the way, I will be in China for ten days, if someone will start such a topic and if I will not be able to reply, please forgive me)
I couldnt find anything worth to write among the last 50 discussion messages.... |
Start a topic yourself! Ask other people their opinion. You (and many other 'old' members) know what was going on in the times you are longing for. With only saying 'there is no interesting topic to reply' nothing will change.
BTW - Enjoy your trip (business? holiday?) in China.
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22 Apr 2007 Sun 12:10 am |
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Quoting Trudy:
Start a topic yourself! Ask other people their opinion. You (and many other 'old' members) know what was going on in the times you are longing for. With only saying 'there is no interesting topic to reply' nothing will change.
BTW - Enjoy your trip (business? holiday?) in China. |
My thoughts too!
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22 Apr 2007 Sun 04:59 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting alperhkn: I used to have hard discussions with catwoman but not anymore... :-S |
it gets exciting again . |
Well,i missed them too ,it was surely exciting ,,lol
Btw,have a nice trip alperhkn.
ALLAH take care of you alper,remember doa et while travelling .
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25 Apr 2007 Wed 09:07 pm |
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I am new to the site and I enjoy it as it is. I'd just like to add my 2 cents or 2.7 new lira...
I believe that the loss you are experiencing is related to the learning and discoveries you all shared at the same time as a group. Fresh discoveries and particularly pleasant ones with like-minded people are intense experiences. When the freshness fades and the "group experience" loses momemtum the new discoveries become "individual" experiences. And in time group members mourn their loss and talk about "the good old days". We learn and discover things everyday, the hard part is to find a group of people with which to share the same experiences and to relive those magical moments.
CarGuy
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25 Apr 2007 Wed 09:21 pm |
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Quoting CarGuy: I am new to the site and I enjoy it as it is. I'd just like to add my 2 cents or 2.7 new lira...
I believe that the loss you are experiencing is related to the learning and discoveries you all shared at the same time as a group. Fresh discoveries and particularly pleasant ones with like-minded people are intense experiences. When the freshness fades and the "group experience" loses momemtum the new discoveries become "individual" experiences. And in time group members mourn their loss and talk about "the good old days". We learn and discover things everyday, the hard part is to find a group of people with which to share the same experiences and to relive those magical moments.
CarGuy
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I respect your perspective. However, several members have left this site for a variety of personal reasons. I think we all miss them...some more than others. I think there was a point about 1 to 2 months ago when a great lack of respect and downright immature behavior aimed at offending others reached an all time max. It was awful. While I for one miss the good moments and have fond memories, I am eager to see what the newer members bring to the site . I also love this site and will continue to participate...perhaps even more after my studies end. All things change and this site is no different. Hopefully, it has become a place where respect reins and our love for Turkey shines even brighter.
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26 Apr 2007 Thu 03:42 am |
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It's really amazing to see different opinions on this topic - how everybody contributes such interesting and thoughtful ideas. This is exactly what I enjoy so much about our conversations.
If you have any (realistic) ideas about improvements that could be done, please share.
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