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some small questions
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22 May 2007 Tue 08:06 pm |
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hi, i would like to know more about ler and lar,
i know , ler and lar is use in the situation of more than one people, but sth i confused, such like ,
iyi aksamlar, tesekkurler, terbritler, ,,,,,,
it is the same to said to one people or one group of people?
i guess the same, so that make me confused, thank you for your reply!
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22 May 2007 Tue 10:06 pm |
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Such patterns like "iyi akşamlar, teşekkürler", whether used for just one or more than one people, almost always are used in plural forms. And you have to just memorize them "as-is".
İyi seyirler
İyi tatiller
Mutlu akşamlar
İyi sabahlar
Tatlı uykular
Mutlu yarınlar
[Note: In Turkish almost every noun, whether abstract or concrete, if not already countable, can be made countable, thus can take the suffix "ler/lar"
ekmekler, düşler, öğütler, bilinçler, sular, çaylar, etc.]
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23 May 2007 Wed 05:46 am |
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But in other situations like ordering tea, when I said
"iki c,aylar", I've been corrected and told to say
'iki c,ay'
I think with pleasantries, the plural is adds for emphasis as
mutlu yillar,
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23 May 2007 Wed 06:45 am |
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Quoting longinotti1: But in other situations like ordering tea, when I said
"iki c,aylar", I've been corrected and told to say
'iki c,ay'
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when saying "2 teas", it should be "iki çay".
when you start using numbers higher than 1, the plural markers don't need to be added to the noun as the plurality is already indicated in the number. the plural marker is then considered redundant.
in english, we say "three ducks".
but in turkish, it is "three duck" (üç ördek).
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23 May 2007 Wed 08:44 am |
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hoş geldiniz Gülme
çok tesekkür edirim.
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23 May 2007 Wed 01:37 pm |
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23 May 2007 Wed 02:19 pm |
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Quoting SunFlowerSeed:
--uncountables--
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That is not true. They can be made countable and thus can take plural form like I said in my above post.
Akşam yemeklerinde pirinç pişiririm.
Ardarda iki akşam yemeğinde pirinç yedik.
Bir akşam yemeğine ne dersin?
Yemek/Yemekler nerde kaldı yahu?
Yemek/Yemekler ziyan oldu.
Sadece iki yemek (=iki kişilik yemek) kaldı.
Önce pirinci ayıkla, sonra sudan geçir....
Önce pirinçleri(e.g. ortamdaki hem pilavlık hem dolmalık pirinci) ayıkla, sonra sudan geçir...
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23 May 2007 Wed 02:43 pm |
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23 May 2007 Wed 02:51 pm |
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May be I am being dumb, but what are "accountable" and "unaccountables" - only time I have ever heard this is in accountancy! Do you mean when counting (accountable) or using numbers (ie. 3 ducks) or when not counting (unaccountables)?
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23 May 2007 Wed 02:58 pm |
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